#also-manga

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warm fossil
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could be better

hot cairn
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kinda boring

warm fossil
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yknow its pretty incredible how slowly one piece moves

wraith mantle
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Well day is not over yet

warm fossil
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we've been in this flashback for half a year

wraith mantle
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You can fix it by going on a walk

hot cairn
warm fossil
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it is but it's more the weekly experience

wraith mantle
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Yall ain’t ready for monthly piece

warm fossil
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id prefer monthly piece

wraith mantle
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Why

leaden rivet
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The worlds strongest swordsman title refers to skill not strength. Mihawk has better sword skills but shanks is stronger overall.

hot cairn
warm fossil
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ragebait so fake it actively makes me more calm

leaden rivet
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Hey that was my best shanks fan impression

warm fossil
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missing some key shanks laughing gifs

low blaze
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Mihawk is the strongest man that doesnt wipe

warm fossil
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(that was the guests bathroom)

ruby moat
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Who cares if mihawk is a lil stronger than shanks

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Shanks is cooler and has more plot relevance

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2 > 1

warm fossil
ruby moat
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Tell them they’re wrong

low blaze
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Mihawk is the strongest spawn camper

thick mango
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Mihawk ready to fight when shanks shows up but he's actually there to see mihawks boss, buggy the clown

hot cairn
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I hope Oda has more plans for him rather than only being Zoro's endgame

thin quest
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Mihawk is a Nerona

low blaze
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I would love if mihawk was a celestial dragon and shanks met him there

bright torrent
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mihawk is a side piece

distant vine
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500th secret CD

thin quest
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Luffy's mom was a CD too

vernal ravine
shell scroll
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why couldnt dragon just impregnanted himself using invakovs fruit maybe hes the father and mother

bright torrent
thin quest
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Croco mom is the worst theory

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stop that slop

shell scroll
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pls

bright torrent
bright torrent
thin quest
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Crocodile is Tritoma that's why

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(no idea if their ages line up)

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(it fits my narrative)

thick mango
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Why hasn't brook just melted imus icy heart with a warm island song

brittle basin
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Well, currently, it doesn't feel like the Mother Flame is all that useful save for powering Uranus, even though the chamber housing the flame was impressive. I'm also wondering if VP even with his great brain is even capable of replicating what the Ancient Kingdom had to its fullest potential in regards to this "sun." Did Egghead mention VP could perfectly replicate such power? Or only that he was trying?

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Regardless, this is definitely a really cool theory.

trim lily
brittle basin
warm falcon
thin quest
warm falcon
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lol, fail

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or muad'dib is a tuna secretly?

brittle basin
thin quest
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exactly

warm falcon
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the tuna killed the chat. tuna's upscale

runic dock
shell scroll
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3 minutes of flashbacks

dense haven
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time and space means nothing to oda

wraith mantle
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Dead chat

graceful grove
pseudo gulch
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YUCK 🤮

hot cairn
wraith mantle
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Fucking disgusting spoiler readers

shell scroll
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how do they work do they get the whole chpater early?

thick mango
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Most of them are only harming their own experience which makes no difference to me

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It has to be sent out early for localization and censorship. Some people in that chain leak it for money

hazy turret
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A lot

tranquil blade
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I think

fallen meteor
trim lily
hazy turret
fallen meteor
# trim lily

from the grass around it i think this might be a snake

hazy turret
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That’s clearly a savannah

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Snakes live in jungles

hearty shore
fallen meteor
vale heath
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“Super Mario Odyssey Prop Hunt IRL” bitch you mean hide and seek??

grand flower
dry hamlet
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L-mu

hazy turret
digital spear
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Dorse

grand flower
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Morj don’t got NOTHIN for me ans time travel!!! He can’t tell me nothing!!!

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I’ll check this out since you and Jesus linked me

thick mango
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Do y'all think it's still up in the air re loki having the special giant elbaf fruit or can we take that as almost certain

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The one rocks mentioned I mean

tranquil blade
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It's still ambiguous I think

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He could have it though

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It's probably even likely he has it

thick mango
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For me the equation is someone has to have it

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And if not loki then who

tranquil blade
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Well unless the fruit is somehow the Nika fruit then he probably did eat it

fallen meteor
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yes loki has the cloud logia

thick mango
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That would be a way to wrap back around on the recent shanks focus

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It would also give us a reason for loki shanks conflict

tranquil blade
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I mean it would make sense, fruit gets stolen so Shanks goes back to get it, stops by an island intending to take it back to Elbaf but Luffy eats it instead

olive sigil
thick mango
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Idk if the nika fruit fits the bill of "especially effective on a giant" though

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Maybe I'm just not thinking creatively enough

leaden rivet
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@digital spear die Nutella, das Nutella, or der Nutella

tranquil blade
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Well maybe that's just cause Nika is a special figure to the giants especially so maybe Xebec thought a giant would make the best use of it

thick mango
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That lady looks familiar but I can't think of her name

tranquil blade
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Idk something like that could be the case

thick mango
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Is that the lady who played moriane in Amazon wheel of time

tranquil blade
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I forgot her name but she played captain marvel

fallen meteor
glacial bear
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I wonder how Loki is not cold

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Especially with those chains on

fallen meteor
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giants probably have some cold resistance

olive sigil
tranquil blade
fallen meteor
tranquil blade
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but like you get used to it

olive sigil
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Close enough

fallen meteor
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they should start a podcast

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the briecast

olive sigil
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I’d watch that

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2 girls talking about brie

fallen meteor
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oh they should marry so brie larson gets alison brie's last name

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brie brie

hazy turret
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Alison larson

olive sigil
olive sigil
grand flower
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Brie Larson fine self

hot cairn
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she guest stars as Abed’s girlfriend

formal wagon
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brie larson when parmesean larson

formal wagon
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UrougeFedora thank you thank you

olive sigil
olive sigil
iron oriole
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Mailbox, will you continue to say the line after December ends

digital spear
thick mango
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Maybe it just transforms to elbaf ends in 2027

olive sigil
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Do not kill Nutella

thick mango
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I never had Nutella

olive sigil
formal wagon
iron oriole
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No way

iron oriole
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This is more hype than the next chapter

thick mango
olive sigil
olive sigil
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It’s now December

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Has egghead ended?

fallen meteor
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dont be hasty

formal wagon
thick mango
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Based on what we got so far do y'all prefer egghead or elbaf

olive sigil
formal wagon
leaden rivet
fallen meteor
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so when we are on Vira, it's Vira

thick mango
olive sigil
fallen meteor
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i'm very fond of learning new stuff

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lol

olive sigil
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I miss Franky

fallen meteor
formal wagon
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franky and his sight seeing are carrying the arc

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mural was the most engaged i've been with one piece since drum

thick mango
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Franky got us the biggest lore drop in a long time with the mural

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Maybe the most important lore drop in the whole series

dense haven
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mural is kinda overrated

formal wagon
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W take W opinion W uh

dense haven
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lots of cryptic shit that I bet not even know knows what it means

thick mango
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Yeah but that's where all the fun is

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That's what it's all for

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Cryptic shit to speculate about

hazy echo
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The mural chapter should’ve been a break week

formal wagon
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koya is alive

hazy echo
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We kinda went from that too fast

thick mango
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It comes up all the time I don't think it's under appreciated

formal wagon
hazy echo
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Really?

fallen meteor
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i think it's preciated

thick mango
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It's pinned in manga serious cause it's referenced so frequently

hazy echo
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All I see is the usual powerscaling stuff

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Oh manga serious

fallen meteor
sage temple
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No I don't post much shirahoshi content

thick mango
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Does your loki hyping extend to shrahoshi if she is indeed mosa

grand flower
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Probably not

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He doesnr recognize Hajrudin’s coolness

hot cairn
olive sigil
hot cairn
olive sigil
hot cairn
thick mango
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Does that include the retcon vp 4d chess stuff

grand flower
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Emet just whipped his rope out

fallen meteor
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emeth while reading the manga:
oh my god they made a little kid into a robot what the hell

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emeth while watching the anime:
this is an old man

hot cairn
thick mango
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I think as of right now I prefer egghead

hot cairn
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I want to see how Elbaph ends first

olive sigil
thick mango
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The rocks flashback was good in a vacuum but loses points for being disconnected from the present

fallen meteor
hot cairn
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Elbaph has lots of potential

pulsar path
thick mango
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I could be wrong as the future unfolds but it kinda feels like, at this point, that it's only loosely related to the present and it's more of an opportunistic exposition drop

hot cairn
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but yeah between the flashbacks? I think Kuma wins

olive sigil
dense haven
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luffy truly went gear death

fallen meteor
thick mango
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The moment where everyone is praying and vp flips the switch with tears hit pretty hard

olive sigil
hot cairn
olive sigil
hot cairn
olive sigil
hot cairn
olive sigil
grand flower
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Next episode seems like it’ll start with tje Eldere beint bmown away

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To humble myself I didn’t fix those typos

thick mango
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Franky also is kinda the sunny which I think is somewhat limiting

formal wagon
grand flower
hot cairn
olive sigil
grand flower
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Harald not helping Rocks pushed his story forward

olive sigil
grand flower
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For that matter, we needed to see Harald and Rocks’ relationship

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Rocks’ death is directly important to Loki and Harald

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But also

thick mango
grand flower
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I think me valley is a red herring

olive sigil
grand flower
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The main thing about it, besides Imu being here, is seeing Roger and Garp break Domi Reversi with a critical Haki attack

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The reason I say red herring is, that’s not really an option here

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They can’t really just blow their giant friends to hell

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So it begs the question of what can they actually do

hot cairn
grand flower
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So it ticks a lot boxes

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It is a good opportunity to show off Rocks and show us me valley thank you btw Sanjuan

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But it also makes the current conflict more dramatic

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How are they gonna fix Dorry and brogy and the others when the only solution we see is pretty much murder

hot cairn
hot cairn
grand flower
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Yippie!!!

grand flower
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You call me funni

olive sigil
olive sigil
hot cairn
olive sigil
distant vine
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Legendary pull the Holy Knights got attacking the part of Elbaph Franky and Zoro were miles away from

hot cairn
olive sigil
fallen meteor
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he's so pressed he reveals he had the cola logia all this time

wraith mantle
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Chapter in two days

olive sigil
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Can’t wait

bleak plover
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LOL I got a feedback button for Discord on blocking users.

haughty saddle
bleak plover
haughty saddle
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I frown because I want an option to send a rabid dog to their location

bleak plover
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I did send feedback, but it's not like I do interact with blocked users often. Most people I've blocked were creeps on DMs or just plain undesirable people.

olive sigil
haughty saddle
bleak plover
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It'd be nice if it just removed every trace of their existence off your screen, I guess. Otherwise it's just a "you tagged this person as big meanie".

bleak plover
haughty saddle
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I wish we didn’t see blocked messages still pop up but I understand why that could get confusing

olive sigil
urban sluice
fast pagoda
hot cairn
olive sigil
bleak plover
distant vine
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We're tolerable

wraith mantle
random hinge
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bars

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@granite hull sorry that it's sanami but you would probably want to see this regardless

bleak plover
distant vine
vital heart
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Do you guys think that Gan Fall is related to Marcus Mars?

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Marcus Fall?

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Gan Mars?

alpine trench
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no

vital heart
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why?

vital heart
olive sigil
alpine trench
vital heart
vital heart
olive sigil
alpine trench
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i am not indulging in this stupid bullshit

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good for you guys

cosmic hamlet
alpine trench
vital heart
dapper tree
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Meek

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You can not be asking that

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You are the very definition of a blind speedreader

cosmic hamlet
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👻

signal fiber
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Why read when you have Morj

sage temple
dapper tree
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Socrates, don't tank your social credit even more by openly supporting Meek

sage temple
dapper tree
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Uhhh, check it again

olive sigil
vital heart
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Hey guys

trim lily
honest garden
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@vital heart best of luck on your exams

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My average score this year was 89.75, if you don't get higher than me you're a chud

alpine trench
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he's a chud regardless

vital heart
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i have 1 paper and 1 exam to go

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the paper is due friday midnight

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progress: 0%

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the implication is that

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I will not be working on Chapter 1169 this week.

honest garden
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Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuckkkkkk

vital heart
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Mentioned this 12 days ago too

honest garden
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Hop on the paper

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But what's it about?

vital heart
dapper tree
leaden rivet
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Why is this actually cute

rose rune
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big news

prisma yacht
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hm?

ruby moat
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Six seven is just the modern day equivalent of one two buckle my shoe

thick mango
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I'm trying to think of what the equivalent was when I was younger

ruby moat
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If ur my age

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21

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What’s 9 plus 10

prisma yacht
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One two buckle my show was obviously better than 67

ruby moat
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21 being the meme number not my age

thick mango
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Social media got going when I was a teenager. The early ones like myspace. Before that the main thing was chatting on Aim.

ruby moat
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Oh ur older than me

thick mango
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Yeah BepoSad

sly belfry
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He was there when fire was discovered

thick mango
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Everything was shittier but it was also kinda nice

prisma yacht
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Epic kid loki pull
@sage temple

shell scroll
pseudo gulch
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2016 had its flaws

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Exhibit number 1

pulsar path
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Also why are people making a big deal about this like duh

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It's f n joy boy

pseudo gulch
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One Piece fans have a boner for over analyzing every single frame/panel of the series

pulsar path
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Like dead ass lol

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Like yeah the haki just took out four invincible men in an instance

subtle osprey
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Oh you guys are busy here I was at #manga

grand flower
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It’s not like Luffy knows there was even a Joy Boy

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The way they phrased it is kinda cringe but not entirely inaccurate, this IS Luffy reacting to a level of Haki he hasn’t reached yet

alpine trench
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love those drawings of luffy by chansard

pulsar path
grand flower
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They make it seem like Luffy is shook in a scared way

pulsar path
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I guess I'm just surprised people are surprised lol

grand flower
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I think it’s like you said, it’s just Luffy seeing a possible level of Haki for the first time

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Ion even think that dude was surprised, I think he just meant it like “haha look at this bum” way

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It seemed like some piratefolk or oppowerscaling nonsense

pulsar path
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I mean Facebook so even lower lmaon

grand flower
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The way he put it at least

grand flower
pulsar path
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But my buddy's says his whole time line is full of people talking about that moment lol

grand flower
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it is pretty nuts

pulsar path
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Tbh I think FB is mostly engagement bate

grand flower
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My coworker mentioned it to me

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But he was basically glazing Luffy lol

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“My boy looked so tuff” lmao

alpine trench
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a coworker that reads OP

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lucky dude

pulsar path
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Lol it's also hard for us cus we read this like a whole year ago

grand flower
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But I have another that reads

pulsar path
alpine trench
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oh i know a lot of anime onlies

grand flower
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One of the first things he said to me about OP

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He looked me dead in the eyes and just volunteered

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“I think Luffy is about to travel back in time”

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No lie

pulsar path
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I remember this dude was trying not to spoiled me on joy boy and I think someone joy boy theory and I'm like bro.....I breath this shit

alpine trench
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hm

grand flower
gritty shuttle
alpine trench
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LMFAO

grand flower
pulsar path
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Shuron is living close to his best timeline 😂

gritty shuttle
grand flower
rose rune
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I also have a coworker that watches one piece, but he's in little garden or something

pulsar path
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It's like your word is traveling back to through the popularity of the anime

gritty shuttle
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Binging can be hell

subtle osprey
pulsar path
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I was walking in Walmart once and a dude was completely dressed as law lol

pulsar path
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This was 4 years ago

rose rune
gritty shuttle
gritty shuttle
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While being fully locked in

pulsar path
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I'm pretty sure I went like three days just watching the anime in my room in like 2012

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Not saying do that lol binging is a curse

rose rune
gritty shuttle
gritty shuttle
pulsar path
rose rune
gritty shuttle
gritty shuttle
pulsar path
rose rune
subtle osprey
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Anyone plays One Piece Bounty Rush?

pulsar path
# gritty shuttle Hell yeah be free, live happy

Yeah like a lot of people used to make fun of that kid and all that. He was definitely a unique dude and not that anything is wrong with being a brony but he was a outspoken brony lmao but it would piss me off how people would judge him like let that dude be him yeah hes a lil cringe but life's to short 😂 people just mad they cant be themselves. Also dude never let any of that bother him!

gritty shuttle
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So now I do my best to like, not be that

pulsar path
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Hell yeah it's just not healthy 😂

gritty shuttle
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Deadass

pulsar path
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Also trying to box people into normal is so weird to me lmao

grand flower
pulsar path
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Like sure we have " normal" just as a point of reference to not be normal

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As you should ! Lol

vale heath
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Mimzee

olive sigil
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So true ^

muted hedge
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so what will Joyboy look like?

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red haired Luffy with a eye patch?

olive sigil
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Red haired?

vale heath
muted hedge
olive sigil
olive sigil
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Interesting

muted hedge
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yeah

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intertwined by fate forever more

hazy turret
vale heath
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His hair is “maroon” which does not fit cleanly into either.
Putting him in pink seemed to give too much advantage.

pseudo gulch
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Should've put him in the middle

olive sigil
hazy turret
royal orchid
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anyone got a 𔑘𔒦

olive sigil
hazy turret
royal orchid
olive sigil
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Stop sending that ChopperAngery

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What does this mean 𔑿‎

royal orchid
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𔕐‎ 𔑿‎

olive sigil
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Can you screen shot what you’re sending

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The fuck is this

royal orchid
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smh you don't have the big unicode library

olive sigil
# royal orchid

Ew dark mode. Even by seeing the symbols I have no idea what they do

vale heath
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olive sigil
dense haven
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chapter out yet?

royal orchid
olive sigil
olive sigil
royal orchid
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destroyed everything the pages are all wet and dirty

royal orchid
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little guy

hazy echo
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vale heath
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乇乂ㄒ尺卂 ㄒ卄丨匚匚

olive sigil
royal orchid
vale heath
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Dank memes like 67 LETSBUGGINGGO

muted hedge
dense haven
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when are we gonna raid area 67

vestal heath
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Good morning

urban lodge
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I need to hunt down whoever made that gif

urban lodge
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Uh yeah sure that one

digital spear
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I also thought you mean that one

prisma yacht
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The gunko one

hot cairn
tranquil blade
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I mean the Gunko gif is kinda accurate

urban lodge
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Luffy will not land a single punch and if he does I might have to start hating Luffy

digital spear
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Cat brutal explosion

prisma yacht
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LMAOOO

urban lodge
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That's what domi reversi Loki will be for

digital spear
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Oh the gif is Luffy punching Gunko I didnt register that

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I thought Gunko just sees Nika

prisma yacht
dense haven
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gunko got giga plot armor this arc

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penny is a ccward for betting safe

urban lodge
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Like I said, that's what Domi Reversi Loki is for smh

urban lodge
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Uh

digital spear
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Luffy kinda has to land 1 punch on Imu now

urban lodge
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Mostly for real

urban lodge
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Why

grave ice
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Usopp voice actor 😭

urban lodge
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It's better if he just gets completely dominated

tranquil blade
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Luffy has to punch Imu and say "I'm gonna be king of the pirates!!" at least

hot cairn
prisma yacht
hot cairn
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this is one piece

prisma yacht
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What about them

grave ice
tranquil blade
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Even Kaido got hit when he dominated Luffy

grave ice
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Died

prisma yacht
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huhh?

urban lodge
grave ice
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Yuss

hot cairn
grave ice
urban lodge
tranquil blade
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Yes

prisma yacht
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It's so over

grave ice
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:((

hot cairn
grave ice
hot cairn
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I dont see anything

hot cairn
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it's happening penny

urban lodge
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Then me becoming a Luffy hater is inevitable sadly

tranquil blade
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Luffy haters...'

prisma yacht
grave ice
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Oo mb

tranquil blade
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A phrase that sends a shiver down my spine

grave ice
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English voice actor fck

prisma yacht
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oh sad 🥀

urban lodge
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They got mailbox, how bad can they be

prisma yacht
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rip

grave ice
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Jeff utanes

dapper tree
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Jeff from overwatch?

grave ice
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NlGGA

tranquil blade
grave ice
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Oo

hot cairn
prisma yacht
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Penny oda just might do it for the readers satisfaction KataOmegaLUL

urban lodge
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Yeah he's a filthy coward

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This flashback proved it

muted hedge
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do what?

tranquil blade
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Being a Luffy hater is like the op fan equivalent of heresy

prisma yacht
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But charlos is imuko

muted hedge
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ah

urban lodge
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Hey if there's still a good writer within Oda I won't have to become a Luffy hater

final trench
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Do whats right

muted hedge
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i mean none of the Celestial Dragons are safe really

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the safest would probably be Gunko or Shamrock

dapper tree
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Gunko just becomes old

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Which is a fate worse than death

tranquil blade
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Which is like a 5% difference visually

sage temple
prisma yacht
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oh thanks Socrates I didn't know that

dapper tree
urban lodge
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If that happens we need to kill Oda

dapper tree
final trench
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Woah

prisma yacht
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We?

final trench
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Wait till one piece over atleast

urban lodge
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Yeah we

final trench
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Cmon now

muted hedge
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i mean that's not even a bad ending for her

dapper tree
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I support oda doing that

tranquil blade
final trench
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Oda gotta go to prison anyway

muted hedge
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since that would imply that she broke lose from Imus control

tranquil blade
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God I hate saying that

final trench
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Bro i seen that video of the nigga in the classroom screaming that shit

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“YOU FUCKIN CHUD”

urban lodge
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Oda is never beating the sexist allegations

final trench
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Save misogyny piece, yamato

muted hedge
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as much as i like Yamato, i'm so glad we're done with their coverstory

wraith mantle
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Someone at my job is called penny

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Gonna ask him what he thinks of rocks

tranquil blade
urban lodge
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That bumps it up from a 1/10 to a 2/10

tranquil blade
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Moria being mentioned made it a 4.5/10

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Before it was a 1/10

vale heath
leaden rivet
vale heath
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Gunko has blue hair and pronouns

urban lodge
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That's exactly why it's unacceptable

final trench
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Moria backstory otw

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Bros gonna visit wano with perona, look at his gravesite and reminisce BBWise BBWise BBWise

muted hedge
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they're probably going straight back to the Cross Guild to be honest

vale heath
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“This is where my parents died, Perona” 😭

muted hedge
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i don't think they have time to visit locales

final trench
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Then we see how he spoke to the “florian monsters” (galleila giants) and had them build thriller bark

final trench
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This means something to him

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Plus crocodile wants pluton so we can just have CG pull up at wano

muted hedge
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i still don't think that they'd go sight seeing, lol

final trench
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This is how they intertwine

leaden rivet
muted hedge
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if Moria knows about Pluton and that's how Crocodile gets knowledge on where it is, i'd be down for that

leaden rivet
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Because even eos luffy shouldn’t be stronger than GV Big mom, Kaido, Whitebeard, Rocks, Roger and Garp combined

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There’s also the very real option of jumping I suppose

muted hedge
vale heath
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The scene of them all attacking Imu to no effect is there specifically to show that raw force doesn’t work

leaden rivet
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Yes yes that’s what I said

leaden rivet
muted hedge
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it just feels inevitable since he is the protagonist

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as boring of an argument that is, lol

final trench
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🌓

potent pier
final trench
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I believe so yeah, since he made moria an honorary kozuki

vale heath
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Small if true

final trench
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I think he’s supposed to be their reader

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Robin
Moria
I guess pudding
Possibly benn beckman

potent pier
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Bonny could potentially read it

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jsut imagine a future where you cna read any languague

final trench
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Tru

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But bonney might go somewhere else

muted hedge
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i think she'll stay with Lilith and Kuma

cold steppe
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I think robin and pudding are the only readers. And the war will be about them Chaden

muted hedge
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granted Elbaph doesn't get demonified completely

final trench
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Yea but i think luffy will keep the tradition of not letting kids on his crew

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Shanks did it
Rocks did it
Luffy might do it

bleak plover
muted hedge
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that's why i said that she'll stay with Lilith and Kuma

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they've got their own thing going on

potent pier
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I also wanted to talk about something else

final trench
bleak plover
muted hedge
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i don't think so, but they'll heal his body at least

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or what's left of it

dense haven
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chapter soon btw

potent pier
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But getting back to what I was saying

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In the serious chat, I brought up a theory that whne a character gets a flashback, don't expect another flashback where they are the central character again

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Only exception I can see that is with Sanji and somewhat Luffy since you can consider the flashback with him and Ace was Ace's flashback specifically

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Another character that could break this rule would be Brook

muted hedge
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there are plenty who have already broken that rule

dense haven
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flashback is on a 10 year cooldown

potent pier
graceful grove
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next flashback going to be how the burn scar man got his scar

tranquil blade
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I guess Zoro kinda had 2 flashbacks

dense haven
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lois arnot is the burn scar

muted hedge
graceful grove
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Akainu gave him the scar

muted hedge
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as well as Shanks, Buggy and Law for example

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they've got flashbacks sprinkled through, like most characters have. even though they're not lengthy

hushed lintel
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Hey Ive got a friend reading OP right now and they just met Aokiji, Aokiji told Luffy to not worry about Smoker's silly message but its been ages since Ive been back in Pre-TS what was he referencing again? My friend is asking cause he doesnt remember Smoker's message

potent pier
muted hedge
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they've been the main characters for those short flashbacks too

potent pier
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like during the current god valley flashback, Kuma was a secondary character in that flashback

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I'm more saying that you shouldn't expect a lengthy flashback with any of the characters who already had a lenghty flashback

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Like characters that have yet to get lengthy flashbacks would be Shanks, buggy and Dragon

muted hedge
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Roger, Joyboy and Imu are probably going to as well

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probably Blackbeard sometime

prisma yacht
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Yes Blackbeard

potent pier
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in regards to buggy, I would intertwine it with Shanks' backstory

muted hedge
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Mihawk, Crocodile will probably also get some sort of fleshing out

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given we know so little

potent pier
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for me, I just wann see dragon's backstoy

prisma yacht
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Mihawk...Mmmsopp

muted hedge
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Oda has left breadcrumbs for Mihawks backstory, same case as Crocodile

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Dragons backstory will be impactful i am sure

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especially given the excellence he recieved in God Valley

potent pier
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I do believe that crocodile was a woman

muted hedge
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i'm not sure

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it's possible though

potent pier
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The bananagators are believe to be a hint

muted hedge
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how?

potent pier
muted hedge
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how are they a hint?

vale heath
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Not sure about the bananagators, but Crocodile AFAB makes a lot of sense

potent pier
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You know what body parts bananas are associated with

muted hedge
#

nevermind

fallen meteor
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muscles

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since potassium is good for cramps

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🙂

vale heath
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Bones

royal kettle
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Wow people still think crocodile a woman, I thought this was a joke

vale heath
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Transodile makes sense, and is based if true

dapper tree
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Crocomom is the joke. Crocodile being a women before is possible.

vale heath
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Crocomom is insane

potent pier
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Like the man is so specific in gendering the names of beroq works agents

prisma yacht
#

Crocomom is real

vale heath
muted hedge
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personally i don't think that Crocodile would care if it got out that he was a woman before

potent pier
muted hedge
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so that's why i am skewed on if i believe it

digital spear
potent pier
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Outside of speculation on if Tritoma is Luffy's mom or not, I still do belive that Kuma went o amazon Lily when she was empress there at least

digital spear
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Like I had the theory that Croc was the former Kuja empress but then Tritoma was revealed and its just not Crocodile

leaden rivet
#

Crocomom is delusional but femcroc is totally believable

dapper tree
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Tritoma is an anagram for Crocodile. (Idk what an anagram is)

digital spear
dapper tree
potent pier
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Because all of the context shown in the amazon lily arc hevilly implies that it wasn't anytime she was empress

digital spear
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The thing is we know Kuma was on Morias island, and Mihawks island, so maybe him being on Boas island might also be because shes a warlord colleague?

potent pier
digital spear
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On the other hand Kuma was curious about Dragons family so maybe he visited his wife

dapper tree
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Kuma went there on some mission to tell boa to do her job probably

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Like he went to moriah

final trench
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Not luffys mom, but a woman nonetheless

potent pier
dapper tree
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Not really a doubt

digital spear
#

Kuma told Mihawk that Shanks is stronger

dapper tree
#

Lol

potent pier
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so he was ther before

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What I am saying is that if Kuma was to get an audience with Boa, she would demand it in the middle of the calmn belt or something like that

digital spear
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When did Kuma ask for Dragons son again

potent pier
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And if it was on the island before, assumign that She knows how Kuma's fruit works, she would've brought up up when Granny Nyon was talking about that sabody incidnet

potent pier
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When luffy was 16

digital spear
distant vine
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I appreciate how Oda made 16 year old Luffy look distinct from 17 year old Luffy

potent pier
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Kuma would be in the best position to connect the dots at that point in time

digital spear
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When Kuma asked Dragon about Luffy, he was still in a cloak with him as a Revo, so it was several years before Kuma saw Luffy, cuz he was already a warlord then

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Which means around this time he couldve also gone to Amazon Lily if Tritoma is the mom?

haughty saddle
#

Dragon is a sex tourist

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Get his ass

digital spear
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Also I hoped we see Tritoma being empress this flashback and like Shakky moving to Sabaody or something but guess not

potent pier
#

That time already passed

haughty saddle
#

Except FDR his was racism against Asian people

grand flower
#

Who is every

uneven oriole
#

Boiiiii

potent pier
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Like even if Dragon had a kid witrh a Kuja warrior, it would be be the most unlikely to suspect it would be one of them since you know, The Kija seemely only give birth to Girls only

haughty saddle
#

Trans Icon Monkey D Luffy

grand flower
#

I do think Luffy being the son of a Kuja is a good reason for why Kuma sent Luffy to Amazon Lily

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But also

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I think it’s fitting that Luffy is a miracle birth

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Kuja are supposed to give birth to girls

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Since birth Luffy has been not giving a fuck about what he was supposed to be

haughty saddle
#

Born in a manger under the star of Gloriosa

potent pier
haughty saddle
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❤️

haughty saddle
#

Real recognize real

digital spear
# potent pier That time already passed

Well Tritoma is still empress right now, so if we continue for a bit after the Harald incident to get Loki at sea, we could get another view around the world and see how Tritoma dies and Hancock takes her place or something. Since the Kuja were so relevant during this flashback. But if Tritoma really is Luffys mom I guess it needs its own flashback

grand flower
#

Wait no

potent pier
haughty saddle
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Other way around

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💀

potent pier
#

Also we do have to remember that Luffy was born in Windmill village

grand flower
#

Was he?

haughty saddle
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Luffy also had the gum gum fruit for like 26 years

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Oda lies sometime

potent pier
#

The narrator confirmed that

haughty saddle
potent pier
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that's why it's notible that People like Makino would never mention Luffy's Mom

haughty saddle
#

It used to be called Camazon Lily

digital spear
final trench
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Imo i think they only keep the female babies

digital spear
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Like we will get the reason, either they just give away the boys, so Luffy is just one of those, or they legitimately cant birth boys, then there will still be an exception

grand flower
bleak plover
potent pier
#

I don't think Luffy's Mom was from Windmill village

digital spear
grand flower
#

🎵 Ganondorf evil incorporated 🎶

potent pier
#

It could be that lady in the film red manga chapter

haughty saddle
potent pier
#

What happened to her though

digital spear
#

I think she was just Utas mom

thin quest
#

Luffy's mom is a CD and not from Amazon Lily

grand flower
#

Dragon piping a CD

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Somebody call Dr Umar

potent pier
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(I'm sorry luffy's mom discussions are just intresting to me)

haughty saddle
grand flower
haughty saddle
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But the mental of it being around that long is funny

final trench
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Thats why he’s the worlds worst criminal

grand flower
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And we know he spends 100 years as Joy boy

haughty saddle
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I’m not talkin in world

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lol

potent pier
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Because Oda, you made way too many issues in your story when you decided to not mention it

thin quest
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Dragon "stole" a woman from the Holy Land and that's his biggest crime

digital spear
#

Imu divided Germany into two

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Luffy will break the red line which is the berlin wall

dense haven
#

remember when people thought ginny was luffys mom

final trench
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They did?

haughty saddle
#

That was a fun 3 weeks

dense haven
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some of the funniest shit ever

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they had to ban the word cuck

potent pier
digital spear
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No dude we are supposed to think its Bonneys mom but its a Red Herring she LITERALLY eats meat she is actually Luffys mom

final trench
#

Is that why he didnt help kuma💔💔

potent pier
#

Then it was confirmed that she was bonny's mom

dense haven
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idk man that would add more character to dragon ngl

final trench
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Fuck no that would make dragon look like a scumbag

potent pier
#

that is why I wan this backstory so badly

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Like ot me I do feel that we will see Kuma on amazon lily in dragon's flashback

final trench
#

Fuckin ya mans lady and then “not help” is crazy

digital spear
#

Dragoat on his way to take Ginny from Kuma and then let her die

potent pier
#

so who do you think tritoma fell in love with?

final trench
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“Ginny got kidnapped?fuuuuck i dont think you want her back brody”

potent pier
#

Could be Shanks

vernal ravine
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that's the only part i don't like from kuma's flashback

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at least make a plan to rescue her even if it fails

final trench
potent pier
#

Shamrock?

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Loki?

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Buggy?

haughty saddle
#

Icl the community discourse around that time was some of the worst I’ve seen it get in all my years

final trench
haughty saddle
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The constant joking about Kuma being a cuck, the brain dead take that Dragon didn’t do anything

final trench
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Dragon will pop out im not worried

haughty saddle
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Like dude his best friend and soulmate got kidnapped and r*ped basically to death as a guinea pig sex slave can we not do this shit

final trench
#

Worlds worst criminal
Confirmed Coc user
Sabo upscales him
Luffys strength upscales him

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Made the revs in under a year

vernal ravine
#

it felt like revolutionary army is lobotomized

digital spear
potent pier
#

the best explaination is that Dragon is playing ht elongame

bleak plover
potent pier
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He's going to liberate all the slaes up ther insead of just one person

vernal ravine
potent pier
#

But still Amazon lily is the perfect place for a base of operations

vernal ravine
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like imagine in the present for example lindberg getting kidnapped and suddenly nothing happens

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its rare

digital spear
blazing depot
#

I’m thinking of cosplay ideas for my next con and Ganondorf is pretty high 😭

potent pier
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Especially if there's a tons of guys in your group

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Like who's gonna expect you to be there?

potent pier
#

The ladies tere probably killed them already and fend their corpses to the Yudas for dinner already

haughty saddle
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I mean I’ll concede I would have also liked more interpersonal development for the characters over it

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But that’s literally every scene in every arc since like Fishman Island

potent pier
#

but getting back to why I don't think Kuma never went there as a warlord.

vernal ravine
# haughty saddle Couldn’t disagree more

didn't say risk it all for ginny but at least one panel of doubt or planning about if they can rescue her, as it stands in the manga is "oh ginny was kidnapped" and then they continue like nothing happened with kuma being depressed all day

potent pier
#

If that was the case, the marines should 've asked some female recruits to come onto the island and search for Luffy there

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because there would be multiple accurate reports of hancock screaming out her love for luffy during Marineford

haughty saddle
#

Sorry I pre assumed you wanted some dumbfuck ass Marineford war flashback where the revolutionaries get slaughtered because “imagine his aura” or something

vernal ravine
#

at least in my opinion

haughty saddle
#

We certainly got sold short on what could have been great characterization

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But I mean, look at the Garp and Dragon interaction in the post God Valley chapter

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That’s genuinely probably the most disappointed with Oda’s writing that I’ve been in a while

graceful belfry
#

Interaction was so stinky I basically axed it from my memory

haughty saddle
#

Daddy I hate you and this job you gave me I’m leaving!!!!

graceful belfry
#

That’s not their real first interaction on panel, nah

haughty saddle
#

Fuckin FUXK YOU DAD I LOVE MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE I DONT WANNA GO TO CHURCH

haughty saddle
#

like really????? He just participated in a genocide, and THATS his fucking tone???

haughty saddle
potent pier
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So yeah (my catchphrase), That is one of the reasons I think The World Government didn't know he's (Kuma) been to Amazon Lily

blazing depot
#

Dragon just got radicalized, while Garp understands

vernal ravine
distant vine
#

I feel like Dragon's reaction makes sense? He said he was quitting and that he was disgusted by Garp

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He wasn't very melodramatic about it

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Seems like an appropriate reaction to me

vernal ravine
#

the funny thing to me is thinking they gave garp the hero title even when he attacked literally the king of the world in the same day

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ik its for marine propaganda but did imu willingly accept that or just he/she didn't care

leaden rivet
#

I wish the conversation was a little deeper? What dragon said was fine

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But like your son who you’ve been probably propping into the marines finds out they’re all mass murdering psychopaths and you’re just like Kay?

tranquil blade
#

Well tbf that was tcb

leaden rivet
#

This is like the perfect time to get Garp’s view on it all, rather his view is lightly explained to Sengoku and Garp

leaden rivet
#

Official just used slightly prettier words

haughty saddle
#

He wasn’t

distant vine
tranquil blade
#

I mean he was like 17 so it's really not that much different

leaden rivet
#

Freshman vs senior

haughty saddle
#

He was a 17 year old who just participated against his will in an ethnic cleansing in a job position his dad spurred him into

distant vine
#

Like what would be more mature of him to say

tranquil blade
#

seniors are dumb as fuck man idk

haughty saddle
#

Anything that conveyed any sort of emotion beyond the most surface level obvious emotions

leaden rivet
#

You suck dad ☹️

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I hate you 😔

haughty saddle
#

I genuinely don’t understand how yall just accept the most amateur character read of these two characters being passed off as something acceptable

#

Raise your standards

distant vine
#

To what?

tranquil blade
#

I mean I think a little more would be fine sure

distant vine
#

"I'm quitting and I'm disgusted you support this group"

leaden rivet
#

I think we actually needed quite a bit here

haughty saddle
leaden rivet
#

This is dragons origin story after all

distant vine
#

You say you want something past surface-level but idk what that is

tranquil blade
#

but I dont think it's the worst thing Oda's ever put out and it's a natural consequence of Oda changing the pacing again

haughty saddle
#

I AGTE TOU!!!!! Kay….. I AM NOT MARINE MORE NOW!!! Kay…

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WAS THE LITERAL INTERACTION

distant vine
spice cairn
haughty saddle
#

it was BELOW what I would expect of an amateur writer let alone one of the best character writers on Jump’s payroll

leaden rivet
distant vine
#

I prefer how clean-cut they kept it actually. Dragon saw Hell on Earth, they both understand what the deal is

leaden rivet
#

No they don’t

haughty saddle
#

It was slop and I’m not a pig

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I deserve better

leaden rivet
#

Dragon doesn’t understand Garp’s deal indi

distant vine
leaden rivet
#

And Garp is just like Kay so he probably still doesn’t understand why his dad is working for these maniacs

spice cairn
#

Garp just likes the free insurance

tranquil blade
#

Garp probably should've tried to explain himself a little, the only reason he might not have is he thought Dragon wouldnt listen regardless and had already made up his mind

leaden rivet
#

To look down on him like that

#

He’s a soldier at the end of the day

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And he’s already risked his life for this cause

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The least you can do is give him the respect of your own ideals. Instead of brushing it off.

distant vine
#

He didnt brush it off

#

He respected Dragon's decision

#

Its not like Dragon asked to hear what he had to say

tranquil blade
#

I think the real reason the interaction went like this is because the second Xebec died, Oda has seemingly set the pace to breakneck speed and so he didnt want to allocate more panels to it

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That's seemingly the cause of this issue

distant vine
#

You could say that yeah

leaden rivet
#

Waste panels on Rayleigh and Shakky’s weak ass romance but not this very important emotional moment….okay

tranquil blade
#

It's the same problem Egghead had

distant vine
#

I wouldn't mind them having a longer conversation but I think this works too

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Conditional its not the only time they interact ofc, which Im sure it wont be

tranquil blade