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kinda boring
yknow its pretty incredible how slowly one piece moves
Well day is not over yet
we've been in this flashback for half a year
You can fix it by going on a walk
well this also is One Piece’s longest flashback ever
it is but it's more the weekly experience
Yall ain’t ready for monthly piece
id prefer monthly piece
Why
The worlds strongest swordsman title refers to skill not strength. Mihawk has better sword skills but shanks is stronger overall.
ragebait perfectly tailored for dood
ragebait so fake it actively makes me more calm
Hey that was my best shanks fan impression
missing some key shanks laughing gifs
Mihawk is the strongest man that doesnt wipe
(that was the guests bathroom)
Who cares if mihawk is a lil stronger than shanks
Shanks is cooler and has more plot relevance
2 > 1
half the population
Tell them they’re wrong
Mihawk is the strongest spawn camper
Mihawk ready to fight when shanks shows up but he's actually there to see mihawks boss, buggy the clown
true Mihawk is kinda boring right now
I hope Oda has more plans for him rather than only being Zoro's endgame
I would love if mihawk was a celestial dragon and shanks met him there
mihawk is a side piece
500th secret CD
actual mihawk plot relevance is being a subordinate of buggy
why couldnt dragon just impregnanted himself using invakovs fruit maybe hes the father and mother
search your feelings
pls
you know it to be true
shiii
shooo we all know chopper does waves under the hat
Crocodile is Tritoma that's why

(no idea if their ages line up)
(it fits my narrative)
Why hasn't brook just melted imus icy heart with a warm island song
Well, currently, it doesn't feel like the Mother Flame is all that useful save for powering Uranus, even though the chamber housing the flame was impressive. I'm also wondering if VP even with his great brain is even capable of replicating what the Ancient Kingdom had to its fullest potential in regards to this "sun." Did Egghead mention VP could perfectly replicate such power? Or only that he was trying?
Regardless, this is definitely a really cool theory.

ok ok i'll throw it up
he mentions only being able to mimic it slightly, VP kinda hints that the mother flame he produced was but a small imitation
So, like Doc Oc, but shittier /s
exactly
the tuna killed the chat. tuna's upscale
3 minutes of flashbacks
time and space means nothing to oda
Dead chat
cause of the spoilers
Fucking disgusting spoiler readers
how do they work do they get the whole chpater early?
Most of them are only harming their own experience which makes no difference to me
It has to be sent out early for localization and censorship. Some people in that chain leak it for money
A lot
Well they send out the physical magazines before the chapter is available so the stores can stock and all that, but someone who works at one of those places will be the one to leak it
I think
i have a trusted source once say this to me but i'm not sure
Don’t be stupid
That’s clearly a savannah
Snakes live in jungles
two of the greatest minds agree on this
“Super Mario Odyssey Prop Hunt IRL” bitch you mean hide and seek??
Eyyyy my nigga not a broke ass baldie no more!!
L-mu
Oh I thought you meant what do I know about being broke
Dorse
I want better for your bald ass
Morj don’t got NOTHIN for me ans time travel!!! He can’t tell me nothing!!!
I’ll check this out since you and Jesus linked me
Do y'all think it's still up in the air re loki having the special giant elbaf fruit or can we take that as almost certain
The one rocks mentioned I mean
It's still ambiguous I think
He could have it though
It's probably even likely he has it
Well unless the fruit is somehow the Nika fruit then he probably did eat it
yes loki has the cloud logia
That would be a way to wrap back around on the recent shanks focus
It would also give us a reason for loki shanks conflict
I mean it would make sense, fruit gets stolen so Shanks goes back to get it, stops by an island intending to take it back to Elbaf but Luffy eats it instead
Nope
Idk if the nika fruit fits the bill of "especially effective on a giant" though
Maybe I'm just not thinking creatively enough
@digital spear die Nutella, das Nutella, or der Nutella
Well maybe that's just cause Nika is a special figure to the giants especially so maybe Xebec thought a giant would make the best use of it
That lady looks familiar but I can't think of her name
Idk something like that could be the case
Is that the lady who played moriane in Amazon wheel of time
I forgot her name but she played captain marvel
brie larson (i only know becaus theres 'brie' there)
giants probably have some cold resistance
Is that the girl from community?
He probably is cold
i think not
but like you get used to it
Alison larson
Double cream brie. That would be a great cheese
Is this thi’s real name?
Brie Larson fine self
actually, Brie Larson is on community
she guest stars as Abed’s girlfriend
brie larson when parmesean larson
thank you thank you
Does she interact with Alison brie?
This is your best bit since the cookie joke
Mailbox, will you continue to say the line after December ends
Personally die Nutella sounds the most right
Maybe it just transforms to elbaf ends in 2027
That’s so mean
Do not kill Nutella
I never had Nutella
I’m going to go shove a spoonful down your throat
i'll have a new line
This is more hype than the next chapter
I think stoners tend to like it I'm surprised it never crossed my path
I collect stones, I love Nutella
Mailbox I have to ask
It’s now December
Has egghead ended?
dont be hasty
not yet
Based on what we got so far do y'all prefer egghead or elbaf
So you lied?

I see, thank you
elbaf but i feel i'd say whatever the current arc is
so when we are on Vira, it's Vira
There definitely is an aspect of recency bias
I think I’ll like Elbaf more but for now I have to say egghead. Mostly because I’m a big strawhats guy and they’ve been gone for a while. Not like they did much on egghead but they were there at the very least
I miss Franky
he is very big you should aim better
franky and his sight seeing are carrying the arc
mural was the most engaged i've been with one piece since drum
Franky got us the biggest lore drop in a long time with the mural
Maybe the most important lore drop in the whole series
mural is kinda overrated
W take W opinion W uh
lots of cryptic shit that I bet not even know knows what it means
Yeah but that's where all the fun is
That's what it's all for
Cryptic shit to speculate about
koya is alive
We kinda went from that too fast
It comes up all the time I don't think it's under appreciated

Really?
i think it's preciated
It's pinned in manga serious cause it's referenced so frequently
GodDAMN
https://fixupx.com/jswht1/status/2000961696916210047 @sage temple did you post this one
No I don't post much shirahoshi content
Does your loki hyping extend to shrahoshi if she is indeed mosa
yes
Peak cheesy interaction
he’ll have a new bit, Elbaph starts in April @formal wagon
I’m actually surprised this wasn’t Socrates posting it
good idea
fire bit
2 episodes left
Does that include the retcon vp 4d chess stuff
Emet just whipped his rope out
emeth while reading the manga:
oh my god they made a little kid into a robot what the hell
emeth while watching the anime:
this is an old man
mmm idk, they’re such different arcs
I think as of right now I prefer egghead
I want to see how Elbaph ends first
Emeth is an old man in the anime?
The rocks flashback was good in a vacuum but loses points for being disconnected from the present
its his voice
Elbaph has lots of potential
I could be wrong as the future unfolds but it kinda feels like, at this point, that it's only loosely related to the present and it's more of an opportunistic exposition drop
but yeah between the flashbacks? I think Kuma wins
Where there’s a 6 there’s a 7
luffy truly went gear death
The moment where everyone is praying and vp flips the switch with tears hit pretty hard
Holy dolly downscale
I agree with this but for that same reason I think I’ll enjoy Elbaph more. The strawhats really didnt do anything at egghead and here in Elbaph it looks like they’ll have more to do
Does Imu have a stomachache
is this a bit or do you really think no arc has been better than drum
I think that as well but as of right now I take egghead. I need Franky to stop being a tourist. His treatment has disappointed me for a while
you’re overrated
Drum is the best arc of the manga
Next episode seems like it’ll start with tje Eldere beint bmown away
To humble myself I didn’t fix those typos
Franky also is kinda the sunny which I think is somewhat limiting
This already happened
i really think no arc has been better than drum but its still a bit because i have been that engaged with one piece since then. I think a lot of arcs engaged me just as mutch as the mural inbetween.
I suppose that’s what I get for watching the episode while doing push ups
I remember that stretch of chapters, Oda did 4 in a row😭 and they were all peak
He just doesn’t feel pushed. Feels like a tourist
I think it justifies itself by showing how the me valley incident impacted Harald
Harald not helping Rocks pushed his story forward
Me valley is the funniest bit you’ve come up with
For that matter, we needed to see Harald and Rocks’ relationship
Rocks’ death is directly important to Loki and Harald
But also
There is that for sure but that's not the main point i don't think
I think me valley is a red herring
It also shows the people Harald was getting in bed with. Show how much he was messing up
The main thing about it, besides Imu being here, is seeing Roger and Garp break Domi Reversi with a critical Haki attack
The reason I say red herring is, that’s not really an option here
They can’t really just blow their giant friends to hell
So it begs the question of what can they actually do
Franky on Elbaph has been pretty cool
So it ticks a lot boxes
It is a good opportunity to show off Rocks and show us me valley thank you btw Sanjuan
But it also makes the current conflict more dramatic
How are they gonna fix Dorry and brogy and the others when the only solution we see is pretty much murder
debatable
fair enough
LOL, next episode is the VP flashback where Oda explains how everything went down plus Kizaru’s crash out
Yippie!!!
For what 
You call me funni
Not really. Rocks was alive, he was weakened and then murdered. If you remove garling he’d probably survive
You are
I think Oda gave us the answer already, beat them tf up
exactly
I think he looks cool but he doesn’t look challenged. There’s no challenge
Legendary pull the Holy Knights got attacking the part of Elbaph Franky and Zoro were miles away from
what would be a challenge for Franky?
Zoro will meet them soon
I want to see him in a fight against someone who makes him go a next level. Where it looks like he might lose and stands up to the challenge
he's so pressed he reveals he had the cola logia all this time
Chapter in two days
Can’t wait
LOL I got a feedback button for Discord on blocking users.
“Did this action satiate your hatred? :( :I :)”
Basically? It was something like "how do you feel about the block function?" and the faces.
I frown because I want an option to send a rabid dog to their location
I did send feedback, but it's not like I do interact with blocked users often. Most people I've blocked were creeps on DMs or just plain undesirable people.
There’s a special group of people I want to do that to
You can’t tell me a rabid dog option wouldn’t have satiated at least some of those
It'd be nice if it just removed every trace of their existence off your screen, I guess. Otherwise it's just a "you tagged this person as big meanie".
Considering all the genitalia I've seen... yeah.
I wish we didn’t see blocked messages still pop up but I understand why that could get confusing
I wish I didn’t have to see that they wrote even if it says blocked message
Right?
Probably arms
ah well, that kind of thing I don’t see it happening this arc tbh wolf
I don’t know if that will ever happen to him. It’s not how oda treats the guy
Am I undesirable?
We're tolerable
bars
@granite hull sorry that it's sanami but you would probably want to see this regardless
Golly gee, me and who?
Sanami? Banned.
no
why?
they look identical, my guy
Gan Fall is the bastard son of Marcus’ sister
no they dont, they have similar beards
Marcus Fall...
Ok. You must be a blind reader. This is crazy.
Have you ever seen people who looked so similar?
Why is it always sister's kid 😭
deeply ironic coming from you
How
Meek
You can not be asking that
You are the very definition of a blind speedreader
👻
Why read when you have Morj
Meek is the pinnacle of reading I say we should vote to make him the server's new owner
Socrates, don't tank your social credit even more by openly supporting Meek
Dang this was a ploy to increase it I thought the people loved Meek
Uhhh, check it again
Meek doesn’t read, he writes the story
Hey guys

@vital heart best of luck on your exams
My average score this year was 89.75, if you don't get higher than me you're a chud
he's a chud regardless
i have finished 2/3 exams
i have 1 paper and 1 exam to go
the paper is due friday midnight
progress: 0%
the implication is that
I will not be working on Chapter 1169 this week.
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuckkkkkk
Mentioned this 12 days ago too
ik 😭
big news
hm?
Six seven is just the modern day equivalent of one two buckle my shoe
I'm trying to think of what the equivalent was when I was younger
One two buckle my show was obviously better than 67
21 being the meme number not my age
Social media got going when I was a teenager. The early ones like myspace. Before that the main thing was chatting on Aim.
Oh ur older than me
Yeah 
He was there when fire was discovered
Everything was shittier but it was also kinda nice
Epic kid loki pull
@sage temple
How is it tho there’s a least some reason to doing one two buckle my shoe 67 straight ass
ill take it
pingas
One Piece fans have a boner for over analyzing every single frame/panel of the series
Like dead ass lol
Like yeah the haki just took out four invincible men in an instance
I mean this isnt exactly wrong
It’s not like Luffy knows there was even a Joy Boy
The way they phrased it is kinda cringe but not entirely inaccurate, this IS Luffy reacting to a level of Haki he hasn’t reached yet
love those drawings of luffy by chansard
I mean I see it less as Luffy looking at the gap and more like Luffy looking at where he could go?
I think that’s kinda the same thing
They make it seem like Luffy is shook in a scared way
I guess I'm just surprised people are surprised lol
I think it’s like you said, it’s just Luffy seeing a possible level of Haki for the first time
Ion even think that dude was surprised, I think he just meant it like “haha look at this bum” way
It seemed like some piratefolk or oppowerscaling nonsense
I mean Facebook so even lower lmaon
The way he put it at least
I feel like FB people just don’t know better
But my buddy's says his whole time line is full of people talking about that moment lol
it is pretty nuts
Tbh I think FB is mostly engagement bate
My coworker mentioned it to me
But he was basically glazing Luffy lol
“My boy looked so tuff” lmao
Lol it's also hard for us cus we read this like a whole year ago
He’s anime only
But I have another that reads
Oh dude I had a few onepiece fans where I worked.
oh i know a lot of anime onlies
One of the first things he said to me about OP
He looked me dead in the eyes and just volunteered
“I think Luffy is about to travel back in time”
No lie
I remember this dude was trying not to spoiled me on joy boy and I think someone joy boy theory and I'm like bro.....I breath this shit
hm
It’s BOOMING
Coworker theories
LMFAO
I’m all your coworker
Shuron is living close to his best timeline 😂
You're a goatworker dont get it twisted monarch
🥹 orca when I say you the fuggin best
I also have a coworker that watches one piece, but he's in little garden or something
It's like your word is traveling back to through the popularity of the anime
Taking it very slow
Probably a good way to watch tbh
Binging can be hell
Yh they can enjoy fully
I was walking in Walmart once and a dude was completely dressed as law lol
This was 4 years ago
Was fun when I was young and didn't have to do much
I love this gif zoro has so much joy here
I never liked binging even when I was younger. I could never watch more than like 2-3 episodes of a show at a time
While being fully locked in
I'm pretty sure I went like three days just watching the anime in my room in like 2012
Not saying do that lol binging is a curse
I've never been able to not be locked in when I'm watching a movie or series. I have only fallen asleep once while watching something
I wish social norms surrounding fashion weren't as tight, I would love to see people dressed as characters they like or wear elf ears everyday
I prefer reading over all other forms of media intake
Tbh where in at I do see a lot of this. This one guy I worked with exclusively wore headphones with cat ears lol
Reading is nice. I have to start timequake soon
Hell yeah be free, live happy
Timequake?
Yeah lol and if I was into it I would just go episode after episode lmao I binged so many shows back thing....during the great tv pirate age 😂
A Kurt Vonnegut book
Anyone plays One Piece Bounty Rush?
Yeah like a lot of people used to make fun of that kid and all that. He was definitely a unique dude and not that anything is wrong with being a brony but he was a outspoken brony lmao but it would piss me off how people would judge him like let that dude be him yeah hes a lil cringe but life's to short 😂 people just mad they cant be themselves. Also dude never let any of that bother him!
For a while I lived with someone that was super judgemental and that made me realize that it must be miserable to CONSTANTLY judge other people for not fitting within what you think is normal or whatever
So now I do my best to like, not be that
Hell yeah it's just not healthy 😂
Deadass
Also trying to box people into normal is so weird to me lmao
I’m so excited
Like sure we have " normal" just as a point of reference to not be normal
As you should ! Lol
Mimzee
So true ^
Red haired?
yeah, i'm into the idea that Joyboy is a Shanks relative from his mothers side of course
Not bad
So Davy and joy descendants both from god valley
Interesting
Why is Katakuri with the red/orange
His hair is “maroon” which does not fit cleanly into either.
Putting him in pink seemed to give too much advantage.
Should've put him in the middle
It’s more burgundy 
Put vivi and hancock in balding
anyone got a 𔑘𔒦
Your phone is having problems lad
The hell is that
idk someone wanted it along with a 𔑿
𔕐 𔑿
Ew dark mode. Even by seeing the symbols I have no idea what they do
ඞ
Anime gear 5 looks like such a different vibe
chapter out yet?
𔑓
Screen shot please
there's no chapter this week oda sneezed on it
destroyed everything the pages are all wet and dirty
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Peak
June 2019 best dank memes compilation
Dank memes like 67 
excited to see what changes they'll do to Enel
when are we gonna raid area 67
Good morning
Sooonn
I need to hunt down whoever made that gif
Uh yeah sure that one
I also thought you mean that one
The gunko one
me too
I mean the Gunko gif is kinda accurate
Luffy will not land a single punch and if he does I might have to start hating Luffy
Cat brutal explosion
LMAOOO
That's what domi reversi Loki will be for
Oh the gif is Luffy punching Gunko I didnt register that
I thought Gunko just sees Nika
that's Penny when Luffy punches the shit out of imuko 
Does Penny know?
Like I said, that's what Domi Reversi Loki is for smh
lmaoo are you for real?
Uh
Luffy kinda has to land 1 punch on Imu now
Mostly for real
yeah
Why
Usopp voice actor 😭
It's better if he just gets completely dominated
Luffy has to punch Imu and say "I'm gonna be king of the pirates!!" at least
luffy always punches the big bad
What
this is one piece
What about them
Diest mate
Even Kaido got hit when he dominated Luffy
Died
huhh?
Yeah but it's too soon
Yuss
huh?
Check
Ok but does that even count?
Yes
It's so over
:((
the english one or the japanese one?
Japanese
I dont see anything
Then me becoming a Luffy hater is inevitable sadly
Luffy haters...'
Yeah same
Oo mb
A phrase that sends a shiver down my spine
English voice actor fck
oh sad 🥀
They got mailbox, how bad can they be
rip
Jeff utanes
Jeff from overwatch?
NlGGA

Oo
...
Penny oda just might do it for the readers satisfaction 
do what?
Being a Luffy hater is like the op fan equivalent of heresy
ah
Hey if there's still a good writer within Oda I won't have to become a Luffy hater
Do it
Do whats right
i mean none of the Celestial Dragons are safe really
the safest would probably be Gunko or Shamrock
Which is like a 5% difference visually
Loki is my favorite One Piece kid oat
oh thanks Socrates I didn't know that
She becomes the short old lady variant
If that happens we need to kill Oda

Woah
Wait till one piece over atleast
Yeah we
Cmon now
i mean that's not even a bad ending for her
I support oda doing that
No that's only for the chud women
Oda gotta go to prison anyway
since that would imply that she broke lose from Imus control
God I hate saying that
Bro i seen that video of the nigga in the classroom screaming that shit
“YOU FUCKIN CHUD”
Oda is never beating the sexist allegations
as much as i like Yamato, i'm so glad we're done with their coverstory
Yamato trying to save one piece with the most sorry cover story in the last decade
Bro we got kozuki moria
That bumps it up from a 1/10 to a 2/10
These guys are just really far apart, it’s not a loop that’s just how far away from each other they are
If it’s in Gunko’s body it should be acceptable
Gunko has blue hair and pronouns
That's exactly why it's unacceptable
Moria backstory otw
Bros gonna visit wano with perona, look at his gravesite and reminisce

they're probably going straight back to the Cross Guild to be honest
“This is where my parents died, Perona” 😭
i don't think they have time to visit locales
Then we see how he spoke to the “florian monsters” (galleila giants) and had them build thriller bark
Bro this is his 2nd home
This means something to him
Plus crocodile wants pluton so we can just have CG pull up at wano
i still don't think that they'd go sight seeing, lol
This is how they intertwine
I think it’ll be something different from raw strength at the end of the day
if Moria knows about Pluton and that's how Crocodile gets knowledge on where it is, i'd be down for that
Because even eos luffy shouldn’t be stronger than GV Big mom, Kaido, Whitebeard, Rocks, Roger and Garp combined
There’s also the very real option of jumping I suppose
his haki probably will be at the end of the day, which is crazy
The scene of them all attacking Imu to no effect is there specifically to show that raw force doesn’t work
Yes yes that’s what I said
I don’t know seems a bit silly
it just feels inevitable since he is the protagonist
as boring of an argument that is, lol
🌓
Big question, can he read the poneglyphs.
I believe so yeah, since he made moria an honorary kozuki
Small if true
I think he’s supposed to be their reader
Robin
Moria
I guess pudding
Possibly benn beckman
Bonny could potentially read it
jsut imagine a future where you cna read any languague
i think she'll stay with Lilith and Kuma
I think robin and pudding are the only readers. And the war will be about them 
granted Elbaph doesn't get demonified completely
Yea but i think luffy will keep the tradition of not letting kids on his crew
Shanks did it
Rocks did it
Luffy might do it
Funny that a flashback was the only place we saw a named technique from Whitebeard.
that's why i said that she'll stay with Lilith and Kuma
they've got their own thing going on
I also wanted to talk about something else
Bonney gives kuma his memories back? 👀
Let's talk about the historical and social importance of potato.
chapter soon btw
Unironically, you cah have an hours long discussion about potatoes
But getting back to what I was saying
In the serious chat, I brought up a theory that whne a character gets a flashback, don't expect another flashback where they are the central character again
Only exception I can see that is with Sanji and somewhat Luffy since you can consider the flashback with him and Ace was Ace's flashback specifically
Another character that could break this rule would be Brook
there are plenty who have already broken that rule
flashback is on a 10 year cooldown
Like who?
next flashback going to be how the burn scar man got his scar
I guess Zoro kinda had 2 flashbacks
lois arnot is the burn scar
most of the strawhats
Akainu gave him the scar
as well as Shanks, Buggy and Law for example
they've got flashbacks sprinkled through, like most characters have. even though they're not lengthy
Hey Ive got a friend reading OP right now and they just met Aokiji, Aokiji told Luffy to not worry about Smoker's silly message but its been ages since Ive been back in Pre-TS what was he referencing again? My friend is asking cause he doesnt remember Smoker's message
I should be more specific. It's mor ein regards to them being the central character of the flashback and not a secondary character
they've been the main characters for those short flashbacks too
like during the current god valley flashback, Kuma was a secondary character in that flashback
I'm more saying that you shouldn't expect a lengthy flashback with any of the characters who already had a lenghty flashback
Like characters that have yet to get lengthy flashbacks would be Shanks, buggy and Dragon
Yes Blackbeard
in regards to buggy, I would intertwine it with Shanks' backstory
Mihawk, Crocodile will probably also get some sort of fleshing out
given we know so little
for me, I just wann see dragon's backstoy
Mihawk...
Oda has left breadcrumbs for Mihawks backstory, same case as Crocodile
Dragons backstory will be impactful i am sure
especially given the excellence he recieved in God Valley
I do believe that crocodile was a woman
The bananagators are believe to be a hint
how?
how are they a hint?
Not sure about the bananagators, but Crocodile AFAB makes a lot of sense
You know what body parts bananas are associated with
nevermind
Bones
Wow people still think crocodile a woman, I thought this was a joke
Transodile makes sense, and is based if true
Crocomom is the joke. Crocodile being a women before is possible.
Crocomom is insane
Like the man is so specific in gendering the names of beroq works agents
Crocomom is real
personally i don't think that Crocodile would care if it got out that he was a woman before
Timeline doesn't work
so that's why i am skewed on if i believe it
It also just doesnt look like fem croc
Outside of speculation on if Tritoma is Luffy's mom or not, I still do belive that Kuma went o amazon Lily when she was empress there at least
Like I had the theory that Croc was the former Kuja empress but then Tritoma was revealed and its just not Crocodile
Crocomom is delusional but femcroc is totally believable
Tritoma is an anagram for Crocodile. (Idk what an anagram is)
Well Boa has been empress for 13 years so it would have to be a while ago

Because all of the context shown in the amazon lily arc hevilly implies that it wasn't anytime she was empress
The thing is we know Kuma was on Morias island, and Mihawks island, so maybe him being on Boas island might also be because shes a warlord colleague?
you think tis would would go to the back of the island to have an audience with Kuma https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nN8IhLvxsGU
On the other hand Kuma was curious about Dragons family so maybe he visited his wife
Kuma went there on some mission to tell boa to do her job probably
Like he went to moriah
Yes
Not luffys mom, but a woman nonetheless
Doubt. If that was the case, kum would've sent him right in the middle of the town
Not really a doubt
Thats what I mean, and he went to Mihawk to tell him to finally do his job (thats why Mihawk went hunting Krieg)
Kuma told Mihawk that Shanks is stronger
Lol
He did paw paw his way to Moria's island
so he was ther before
What I am saying is that if Kuma was to get an audience with Boa, she would demand it in the middle of the calmn belt or something like that
When did Kuma ask for Dragons son again
And if it was on the island before, assumign that She knows how Kuma's fruit works, she would've brought up up when Granny Nyon was talking about that sabody incidnet
The year prior to the start of the series
When luffy was 16
Thats when Kuma saw Luffy, but he got a flashback of when he asked Dragon about him, so when was that
I appreciate how Oda made 16 year old Luffy look distinct from 17 year old Luffy
A legit qood queston
Kuma would be in the best position to connect the dots at that point in time
When Kuma asked Dragon about Luffy, he was still in a cloak with him as a Revo, so it was several years before Kuma saw Luffy, cuz he was already a warlord then
Which means around this time he couldve also gone to Amazon Lily if Tritoma is the mom?
Also I hoped we see Tritoma being empress this flashback and like Shakky moving to Sabaody or something but guess not
Not in this flashback
That time already passed
Every great man’s downfall
Except FDR his was racism against Asian people
Who is every
Boiiiii
Like even if Dragon had a kid witrh a Kuja warrior, it would be be the most unlikely to suspect it would be one of them since you know, The Kija seemely only give birth to Girls only
Trans Icon Monkey D Luffy
I do think Luffy being the son of a Kuja is a good reason for why Kuma sent Luffy to Amazon Lily
But also
I think it’s fitting that Luffy is a miracle birth
Kuja are supposed to give birth to girls
Since birth Luffy has been not giving a fuck about what he was supposed to be
Born in a manger under the star of Gloriosa
Ivonkov would remmeber that
❤️
That’s why Iva loved him so much
Real recognize real
Well Tritoma is still empress right now, so if we continue for a bit after the Harald incident to get Loki at sea, we could get another view around the world and see how Tritoma dies and Hancock takes her place or something. Since the Kuja were so relevant during this flashback. But if Tritoma really is Luffys mom I guess it needs its own flashback
Dragon: can you turn this boy into a girl
Iva: uh why?
Dragon: no reason
Iva:
Wait no
He would definitly have a flashback about that
Also we do have to remember that Luffy was born in Windmill village
Was he?
The narrator confirmed that
I was actually born there
that's why it's notible that People like Makino would never mention Luffy's Mom
It used to be called Camazon Lily
Exactly, the "Kuja only give birth to girls" just screams for there to be an exception to the rule
Imo i think they only keep the female babies
Like we will get the reason, either they just give away the boys, so Luffy is just one of those, or they legitimately cant birth boys, then there will still be an exception
Technically 112
Exceptions and special cases prophesied every 800 years.
I don't think Luffy's Mom was from Windmill village
Luffy will be Ganondorf
🎵 Ganondorf evil incorporated 🎶
It could be that lady in the film red manga chapter
Sick ass mental image of a dude in a trench in east Germany reading one piece
What happened to her though
I don’t get it
I think she was just Utas mom
Luffy's mom is a CD and not from Amazon Lily
(I'm sorry luffy's mom discussions are just intresting to me)
Op has not been around 112 years
Luffy ate it 12 years ago
But the mental of it being around that long is funny
Thats why he’s the worlds worst criminal
And we know he spends 100 years as Joy boy
Ohh
Because Oda, you made way too many issues in your story when you decided to not mention it
Imu divided Germany into two
Luffy will break the red line which is the berlin wall
remember when people thought ginny was luffys mom
They did?
That was a fun 3 weeks
Short time
No dude we are supposed to think its Bonneys mom but its a Red Herring she LITERALLY eats meat she is actually Luffys mom
Is that why he didnt help kuma💔💔
Then it was confirmed that she was bonny's mom
idk man that would add more character to dragon ngl
Fuck no that would make dragon look like a scumbag
that is why I wan this backstory so badly
Like ot me I do feel that we will see Kuma on amazon lily in dragon's flashback
Fuckin ya mans lady and then “not help” is crazy
Dragoat on his way to take Ginny from Kuma and then let her die
so who do you think tritoma fell in love with?
“Ginny got kidnapped?fuuuuck i dont think you want her back brody”
Could be Shanks
that's the only part i don't like from kuma's flashback
at least make a plan to rescue her even if it fails
Trollda at 50%
Icl the community discourse around that time was some of the worst I’ve seen it get in all my years
Parallel of hell if this happened
The constant joking about Kuma being a cuck, the brain dead take that Dragon didn’t do anything
Dragon will pop out im not worried
Like dude his best friend and soulmate got kidnapped and r*ped basically to death as a guinea pig sex slave can we not do this shit
Worlds worst criminal
Confirmed Coc user
Sabo upscales him
Luffys strength upscales him
Made the revs in under a year
it was a bit forced like i know it had to be that way for the plot but at least make dragon or kuma question themselves if they can rescue her or something
it felt like revolutionary army is lobotomized
They probably did but we rushed past that
the best explaination is that Dragon is playing ht elongame
He's going to liberate all the slaes up ther insead of just one person
i suppose but if they didn't show us is cope sadly
But still Amazon lily is the perfect place for a base of operations
like imagine in the present for example lindberg getting kidnapped and suddenly nothing happens
its rare
I cope a lot about One Piece 🧒🏻
I’m thinking of cosplay ideas for my next con and Ganondorf is pretty high 😭
Especially if there's a tons of guys in your group
Like who's gonna expect you to be there?
Couldn’t disagree more
The ladies tere probably killed them already and fend their corpses to the Yudas for dinner already
I mean I’ll concede I would have also liked more interpersonal development for the characters over it
But that’s literally every scene in every arc since like Fishman Island
but getting back to why I don't think Kuma never went there as a warlord.
didn't say risk it all for ginny but at least one panel of doubt or planning about if they can rescue her, as it stands in the manga is "oh ginny was kidnapped" and then they continue like nothing happened with kuma being depressed all day
If that was the case, the marines should 've asked some female recruits to come onto the island and search for Luffy there
because there would be multiple accurate reports of hancock screaming out her love for luffy during Marineford
Yeah that’s a reasonable ask
Sorry I pre assumed you wanted some dumbfuck ass Marineford war flashback where the revolutionaries get slaughtered because “imagine his aura” or something
like imagine one page of ivankov and hack for example saying oh we are willing to rescue her or we have to wait for the right moment to rescue her, ginny's call would be even more tragic
at least in my opinion
We certainly got sold short on what could have been great characterization
But I mean, look at the Garp and Dragon interaction in the post God Valley chapter
That’s genuinely probably the most disappointed with Oda’s writing that I’ve been in a while
Interaction was so stinky I basically axed it from my memory
Daddy I hate you and this job you gave me I’m leaving!!!!
That’s not their real first interaction on panel, nah
Fuckin FUXK YOU DAD I LOVE MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE I DONT WANNA GO TO CHURCH
I thought it was fine?
like really????? He just participated in a genocide, and THATS his fucking tone???
It was insulting to me as a reader
So yeah (my catchphrase), That is one of the reasons I think The World Government didn't know he's (Kuma) been to Amazon Lily
Dragon just got radicalized, while Garp understands
I didn't dislike it
i expect more conversations between them if we got a dragon flashback which i hope
I feel like Dragon's reaction makes sense? He said he was quitting and that he was disgusted by Garp
He wasn't very melodramatic about it
Seems like an appropriate reaction to me
the funny thing to me is thinking they gave garp the hero title even when he attacked literally the king of the world in the same day
ik its for marine propaganda but did imu willingly accept that or just he/she didn't care
I wish the conversation was a little deeper? What dragon said was fine
But like your son who you’ve been probably propping into the marines finds out they’re all mass murdering psychopaths and you’re just like Kay?
Well tbf that was tcb
This is like the perfect time to get Garp’s view on it all, rather his view is lightly explained to Sengoku and Garp
I think in Japanese they meant all the same thing
Official just used slightly prettier words
If he was 14 sure
He wasn’t
What do you think he should have said
I mean he was like 17 so it's really not that much different
Freshman vs senior
He was a 17 year old who just participated against his will in an ethnic cleansing in a job position his dad spurred him into
Like what would be more mature of him to say
seniors are dumb as fuck man idk
Anything that conveyed any sort of emotion beyond the most surface level obvious emotions
I genuinely don’t understand how yall just accept the most amateur character read of these two characters being passed off as something acceptable
Raise your standards
To what?
I mean I think a little more would be fine sure
"I'm quitting and I'm disgusted you support this group"
I think we actually needed quite a bit here
He didn’t even say that much
This is dragons origin story after all
You say you want something past surface-level but idk what that is
but I dont think it's the worst thing Oda's ever put out and it's a natural consequence of Oda changing the pacing again
I AGTE TOU!!!!! Kay….. I AM NOT MARINE MORE NOW!!! Kay…
WAS THE LITERAL INTERACTION
He didnt but both Dragon and Garp understood that's the point.
it was BELOW what I would expect of an amateur writer let alone one of the best character writers on Jump’s payroll
Something deeper, maybe Garp defending why he is still in the marines despite what they do, he defends it to Roger but not to his own son who is traumatized by it
I prefer how clean-cut they kept it actually. Dragon saw Hell on Earth, they both understand what the deal is
No they don’t
Dragon doesn’t understand Garp’s deal indi
I would say he thinks there's no way to defend this in a way Dragon would understand, therefore its better to let him go
And Garp is just like Kay so he probably still doesn’t understand why his dad is working for these maniacs
Garp just likes the free insurance
Garp probably should've tried to explain himself a little, the only reason he might not have is he thought Dragon wouldnt listen regardless and had already made up his mind
Seems incredibly unfair to dragon
To look down on him like that
He’s a soldier at the end of the day
And he’s already risked his life for this cause
The least you can do is give him the respect of your own ideals. Instead of brushing it off.
He didnt brush it off
He respected Dragon's decision
Its not like Dragon asked to hear what he had to say
I think the real reason the interaction went like this is because the second Xebec died, Oda has seemingly set the pace to breakneck speed and so he didnt want to allocate more panels to it
That's seemingly the cause of this issue
You could say that yeah
Waste panels on Rayleigh and Shakky’s weak ass romance but not this very important emotional moment….okay
It's the same problem Egghead had
I wouldn't mind them having a longer conversation but I think this works too
Conditional its not the only time they interact ofc, which Im sure it wont be
Well I never said he allocates his panels perfectly






