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I mean joyboy would technically have yellow aswell since he has the nika fruit
He might get black
maybe
He doesn't get one
when they gonna add this feature in discord instead of their shitass updates
I need her plug
I think he should get Haki
Like Gyaban
English doctor kurera voice actress passedš Julie Mayfield
Damn, rip
Uhh
Gaban uses Conqueror's silly
@tranquil blade @ashen perch @hot cairn reactions to Joy Boyās appearance in this episode
Tell me this aināt Luffy
No lego arm š
Yes
yeah that doesn't look like a peg leg
Or a claw arm
That's just a giant with a strawhat. his final design will look nothing like the silhouette. goda.
by all rights thats not luffy thats joyboy
silly
Same thing
It's joyboy because Luffy isn't wearing a cloak like that rn

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Joyboy was probably a Buccaneer
If it ends up being Luffy, god help me.
That's like a really long time ago
hey i'm not a subscriber of this thoery
https://youtu.be/dVY1A4Z4NMU The ganzack OVA is just available on YouTube
Defeat Him! The Pirate Ganzack -
Defeat Him! The Pirate Ganzack was the first animated version of One Piece. It was first released in the summer of 1998, with a limited screening across theaters in Japan.
It also is known as One Piece: Defeat The Pirate Ganzak
#onepiece #luffy #zoro #nami #music #anime #op #ova #movie #film
This ain't Luffy
i'd rather have joyboy with red hair
That was quite easy
It sounds like Luffy because⦠thatās what the VAās voice is for Luffy in this OVA
we have to build a statue for Shuron
Reminds me of both Kidd and Shanks. Double L. Joy Boy will have rainbow hair.
that's not luffy but yeah, i liked the episode a lot
It's a guy with a coat and a straw hat
0% chance that its Luffy lol, I'd bet my life on that
Also I guess no lego hand
I didn't watch the episode. I'm sure it's good.
don't gamble with your life. use spice life instead
He's gonna be like Shanks because he's the ancestor of Akamami, that's it
Now bark
True
?
episode was ok, Imu sounded funny
On Spice's life, it aint Luffy
I swear on Averyās life that Joyboy is not Luffy
I will put it next to my Oda statue.
The inflection is the same
On SPICE'S SOUL it's Luffy fr š
poor spice
This makes me happy
Bro is cooked either way
it sounds like Luffy because they neither have the official design nor voice figured out for when Joy Boy is actually revealed
The voice of Luffy does indeed sound a lot like the voice of Luffy, true.
depending on the ending, i might have to go and throw eggs at oda statue
IT'SNOTLUFFYDAMMIT
I liked how Gorosei and Imu's screams sounded in the episode
what if he is ancestor of luffy 
It's definitely not Luffy
Please god don't let him be Luffy's ancestor
Oda is better than this. Right, Oda?
I would vomit
Very animalistic or rather demonic, did not feel human atleast
Same VA doesnt mean they speak with the same inflection. Thatās a deliberate performance choice
Toki was the perfect time traveler. all we could ask for
oda already walking a thin line with chosen one df stuff
lineage piece demands it
oh and Nusjuro didn't scream at all, because of the Zoro tax
I mean Joyboy is probably pretty similar to Luffy, but he's not Luffy
He was aurafarming
He was practically mewing through it all
He's so tuff
Imu face was like ''oh my god it's joyboy'' imagine that
it all goes to shit when someone starts traveling back in time
Nusjuro tried to cut the haki did you see his stance
Monkey D. Binks or some shit
Figarland Binks
even his stance after getting sent back was tuff
Yea it seemed that way lol
Who is the T-1000?
This I would accept
Luffy
Except he goes back to the future
Luffy going back in time causes the events of the void century
Figarland Binks and his twin rival Figarland Redbeard
I will accept the time traveler theory if Luffy becomes an unfeeling AI killer like the T-1000.
Close
Heāll be drunk
Thatās why Luffy wonāt remember it
I forgot Luffy even drinks lmao
He doesnāt
wait he doesn't?
Only when celebrating
No
Luffy doesnr like the taste of alcohol
oh that's what I mean. yeah he doesn't drink like zoro.
He's a milk guy
He drinks socially, but not recreationally
can't wait about new chapter 1169 
Spoilers tomorrow
Hes just like me fr
Break week is OVER
Opposite of me smh
This upscales Zoro BTW. He's a high functioning alcoholic. He's poisoned at all times, yet still manages to decimate his enemies.
But theyll drink the green fairy abain
Luffy goes back in time drunk as fuck
Heās gonna yell āMEATā but itās gonna come out āMEADā
So they keep giving him drinks
And thatās why pirates love alcohol
Won't be a Figarland, whatever Akamami is
True
Oda is NEVER allowed to reference absinthe again after that little stunt he accidentally pulled.
I still think Binks is Shanksā ancestor
akamami LMAO
Oda fumbled the absinthe
Joyboy's name was Shandor, from Shandora
I drink recreationally, but not socially
Naw the absinthe is coming back
His Redbeard will be colored like Shanks and Shamrocks hair š„
Stand on business, King.
Keeps with the theme of Shanks and Shamrock
ooo
Damn didnāt know we had that many alcoholics here
Star Wars planet ahh name
I forgive everyone
Need to add Estrid
wakainu
Caesar just just trying to make those kids strong
I forgive Caesar
Really? He did the thing to ace
I forgive BB.
On all of OUR souls WE forgive Caesar
I forgive everyone cuz Oda forced them to do it
he was just doing his job fr
2 people here have nothing to apologize for
Oda is the real villain here
He wasnāt that bad tbh. He just drugged some kids
i am willing to forgive teach

Charloss will probably be forgiven by the story
I forgive Teach 'cause he will kill Imu.
Well Oda's a hack so
We're not doing this again. Nuh uh.
Idc if the story forgives Charloss I wont
BB and Orochi are survivors of a brutal genocide
Because he's an idiot and probably has no clue lik Shalria
Nah get out
Charlos fucking DIES.
The Shalria panel though
Charlos gets punched again
That panel....
show it for my memory's sake
Itās time face it
You can't ignore the panel
Yknow he lowkey drugged kids and stuff but he's kinda chill sometimes
Shalria definitely will be forgiven
arsal is right, oda will let the dumb CDs get some mercy
Most importantly Caesar is funny
But all the CD s are dumb
Oda should let some cataclysm or friendly fire destroy the CDs.

The revolutionary armyās purpose has been compromised in the story
Speed W
Rokaya what are you on
When all the CDs are like "kill this guy" during VP's speech and Shalria is shown to not even have a clue as to what a "Void Century" even is
i worry that charloss will get a msjogard moment
Wdym the revo's purpose is compromised
Alot of em might
Respect Speed ā¤ļøāš©¹
oh that panel. hmmmm. i'm not sure if that erases the horrors they've done narratively. but i don't know how far oda will go with "they were ignorant and thus products of their environment"
"Princess Shirahoshi made me a human!" 
Itās gone from targeting the WG to CDs and the way that VP message thing went, the CDs will be absolved and the revos are gonna go āoh well itās not the CDs itās the gorosei, itās Imuā
lord have mercy lmaooooo
i love emeth so much
Iām sure some CDs will get some form of redemption or w/e. but thereās no way in hell charlos is one of them. Heās too dumb and greedy
revs are after holy knights and above
Y'all not ready for Charlos to be the Gyats of the final war and save Luffy from Imu
Gundam Piece 
Penny wrap this up
He is her brother, I think he'll be the same
and this is where dragon and sabo will likely split on their agendas, dragon will want some mercy for dumb CDs, sabo will want to kill them all because he's actually kinda crazy
Oh we got haki bomb today

Until we find out the HKs are also brainwashed and theyāre only going to go after the gorosei
If Charloss lives arc essays are being written
chansard cut
this only applies to shammy 
And then they see Imu was just controlled by mother nature and they will say "oh so nobody was evil they were just corrupted by each other. Our job is over, bye"
Penny is actually right
insane cut
That really was just a ridiculous stunt huh
hello, xcuse me. if we want to talk ab the last ep of the anime? which is the chat?
So unfortunate with the hallucination talk too into all those mistakes
This can just as easily be another doffy/cora situation. Where charlos is doffy, but lacks 200 in points. I think thatās way more likely. Thereās no point in having the punching bag redeem itself
if you want to talk about latest anime ep with manga spoilers, manga channels are fine
if you just want to talk anime with no manga spoilers, go to anime channels
Until we learn the gorosei are also victims and that they should focus on Imu
Bro is definitely living
I've never thought once that Charloss would die lol
it was awesome
Why is Sharlia worthy of redemption for asking a question
Rokaya I already skipped multiple steps, its fine
If Oda was good he would die
They were all victims
Gorosei Redemption Arc
Yeah my connection went out a bit and the message delayed smh
At least the dude has gotta have every bone broken
I think the angle that Oda will take is making them actual victims of Imu, like they'll die at his hands and it'll be a cruel but not necessarily mega sad thing
LOL
The villain of the story were us not understanding and communicating with each other š
There will only be one Mjosgard
But I can see them just living too
Dw, I'm sure the force traveled through his body and broke every bone
What if Sai and Leo hitting him in the head made him good
ty, those are my thoughts. the helpers failing šŖæ
Oda was laughing while he inked this.
Like I need him to go through hell
for those who want to see it
Charlos has the best defense in the world
just kidding, btw
If Spandam can recover, Charloss is fine
so... this voice of Imu was kinda delivering huh
This looks so crispy
masculine to me, what do yall think?
Doll fans were in shambles after this...
Emethaki
It's a bunch of layered voices
Oh so women canāt have deep voices?
or at least, he can have an immature look, the opposite of Momonosuke
(I didnāt hear it yet)
Imu's voice might not get revealed even during Elbaf lol
It's incomprehensible to me that the anime managed to get this good looking after so long
really didnt like the animation that was done on g5 luffy here, looks gross
I still remember those Dressrosa days
well
We're gonna have 10s of chapters with Imu speaking through a weird filter
jesus they milked the hell out of that scene
what
it made me think about Imu, if you wanna hear my theory
Its just like 2 minutes, I thought they nailed it
Dw, the Imu "face" reveal will happen on Elbaf.
It's not too long
It was fine
You mean through Gunko or in the future
Surely
buffy is an old man who's slowly losing his attention span
yes
Lmao
i mean: aged, but with immature body š
Imu
Imu face reveal never
what chapter was that in the manga?
What if Imu was actually a female and that would be act like hancock or gloriosa š which means if imu actually curse amazon lily? i guess would be wild
If yall watched justice league unlimited
1122
Vivi will arrive on Elbaf and then on the final page, it'll be a double spread. Vivi will be on one half of the page with her being in Elbaf and "Vivi" (AKA Lili who looks exactly like her) will have her background in the garden.
Thats why she hates Joy Boy and Davy (men š¤®)
1122
I picture you with ine
well.. the nobles are kinda delicate..
W Maya Fey

wrote this earlier, learnt something interesting today that applies to OP
was watching a youtube video about the colosseum in rome and what it used to be like, and apparently there used to be a huge statue of nero, called the colossus neroni, which was later reskinned to be a depiction of sol, "the sun god"
nero's statue becoming the statue of sol was a course of his popularity dying out, so the romans chose to retrofit that statue as being of sol
nero being the emperor was a figure by that point in the roman empire whose authority as an emperor superceded the gods (jupiter, saturn, mercury, etc) fading into obscurity after his death as sol took over that mantle as that statue came to be known
this tracks a lot with what we know of imu (attributing them to the nerona family) and of the gorosei being named after the roman gods, who replaced the greek gods (the ancient weapons), and joyboy and nika being the sun god whose resurgence is coming again in the form of luffy
additional information i learned that nero commissioned the statue and after his death, senators of rome did a "damnation of memory" which meant that anything or any symbol associated with him was erased or retrofitted into something else
frfr if that made sense
it just my theory maybe i can be wrong or not
so you think Imu is Lily
Well, Imu in Lili's body
Isnt Imu's voice distorted as hell and has multiple layered voices on it
from amazon lily?
i dunno if u are kidding but...
fair... we cant guess
Last time I heard it was lulusia and it was distorted
distorted sneezes
And what are you gonna do about it?
it just my theory and I apologize if im not clear. English is not my first langauge oops. yeah so do you recall that when giving birth to girls not boys.
that might be explained
yeh i apologize too.. amazon lily in my head was kinda new to be in the void century...but i dont know (maybe im not paying attention..
Ah, it was two pages in the manga. I thought it was only one page.
It was a huge moment
ur a huge moment
yeah good question and would love to hear about void century stuff. oda still cooking af
yeah everyone is huge
ur moms a huge MOMENT
Praise you, I suppose
Still has those Boney legs
The Morgan parallel... Wow
No but seriously interesting find harsh
its some real cool shit
oda HATES well proportioned legs
gottem!
hey shuron sorry i didnt recognize for a sec
Great catch
( to explain, a big part of Shell Town is the "Great" Morgan being pissed that the Sungod Luffy broke his glorious statue)
Hello hello! How are you today
woody legs šŖµ
after nero's death, the statue was moved in front of that spot where the colosseum (then known as the flavian amphitheatre) was built and it came to be known as the colosseum because of that statue
of nero erased into sol, the sun god
im waiting until tuesday, then im good xD
what about yourself?
irl spoilers smh
the nerona can be a pun
nero is black in italian so..
sure
Iām not
Whatās happening Tuesday š
Iām getting over a cold got sick two weeks in a row š
an important test
up your immune system brah
You bouta kill that shit
You right
drink more water
tyyy š
if Luffy and Joyboy are truly the same person why not use Tanaka as the voice?
opposite siutation of shanks-shamrock for anime
youāre cooked
Committed to the bit
Gotta preserve the plot twist while giving clues
LOL
Whatās the subject?
I got all the answers bro
anime wasnt aware shamrock was in 907 episode so they used shanks VA
anime is assuming joyboy is a different person so they used a different VA
What Shuron doesn't know is that pictured here is "Joyboy" Shandor, his navigator Rizeru and his first mate Monkey D Pao
Enough
rizeru š
Rizzler
why is ancient nami called rizeru
Its the name of the very first Nami Oda ever created
they used the same VA for sukiyaki and Tengen back in Wano tho, and the plot twist still happened
thatās not a valid answer
do you have the source for this?
check if your diet is balanced and/or if your mind heath is ok āŗļø š
or is this the romance dawn thing
Yeah 1s
he tweakin
take care of yourself
Even older than Romance Dawn

youāre one of a kind Arsal
10 topics lol
college exam?
yh
This is the first ever version of One Piece
Just a forward to an editor at Jump, a concept of a plan
oooooh, ive seen that before but not fully translated
Not as important as this one
So we're looking at Rizeru, Monkey D Pao and the unknown red haired man who bears a striking resemblance to Shanks and has an eyepatch
You bouta Ace ten topics at once
Brazy
Anatomy kicked my ass
It couldn't be clearer
best of luck to you
youre doing good work frfr
Man I love Oda's older art so much š
has anyone dissected what the name rizeru could be referring to
lot of rizz
kizaru if he was gorgeous
oh man, there are some kizaru fanarts out there...
Idts yeah
at least he is cool
Take a long, loooooong look at it. Let it envelope your entire being, whisk you away to a peaceful night's sleep. And when you wake up to the cold hard light of morning you'll remember: you'll never see his older style again.
Can't believe artists would evolve and allow such drastic changes smh. š
I almost like that artstyle more than the current one is some ways
I heard Roger's voice changed again
Though there are some current designs I like that I dont think a younger Oda wouldve ever made
the current one is still good but the older one feels so dreamy and nostalgic
I was confused
I wonder why it changed again
The older was cleaner and simpler and easier to read. That simple.
For some artists, Art really does not evolve, just change. Can you really say a style is better than the other?
Is a style after all
Oda is surely a better artist now technically than he was then due to sheer volume. But age is catching up. Or he's inking really, really fast.
Well his current color art is much better
I wouldnāt say one is better than the other
I just use evolve as a synonym for change, but the word "style" is subjective, so depending on what you mean when you say that, I could say yes
Regular manga is what it is, but his color artwork remains as good as ever, and art style better than ever
I love Oda's "colors"
Yes, colors 
name one colour
The most recent color spreads have been some of Oda's best ever
Nami
tyyy š š
sorry i was out
I am forced to irrationally hate the first one due to its association with the term "Giant Nami"
nami one colour
So happy that the 1121 spread adaptation disappointed people š¤
its basically nami piece
I'm not sure what people were expecting
How about Giant Demon Robin?
Acceptable
Namis happiness punch is on par with joyboys haki nuke
There's never been a user here obsessed with giant robin to my knowledge
Imus u awakens fruit
rip black maria's bones 
Unawakened
There's a user obsessed with giant Nami?
Oda: Wanna see giant Nami? 
Also Oda: Wanna see a family that can never be? 
past tense

#noticing
Top 10 strongest in one piece oat:
Joyboy
Davy Jones
Imu
Roger
Rocks
Ryuma
Garp
Dragon
Mihawk
Whitebeard
Oh you like colors huh?
Name every hex code
never trust in a sillhouette
thats why Imu is the purest form of ~evildeceit š„ø
This is my new favorite one though.
You forgot Shanks, silly.
Just replace him with Mihawk
and there you go

Didnāt forget mihawk destroys shanks
the other leg doesn't look normal, either. two pegged-legs?
Possibly
I originally thought just the right leg
But Toei made the left one look weird too, at least it didn't quite look like that to me in the manga
Go off king
never trust sillhouettes š
yea in the manga only one leg looks very thin
What would the implication of a peg leg be anyway lol
when Imu's defeated we'll stop having sillhouettes
pirate-y
the 1st pirate
tbf its not like the anime showed his foot, atleast I dont think it did
just kept it to the leg, so even they are probably not sure
there are some freaks out there that want to see his feet
Thatās just the angle
Never forget our goat
hand can still be questionable too, maybe he has a real good prosthetic
Arsal is one of them
How does a peg imply that lol
Smh
hey they were ultra mega advanced, if anyone could...
still the coolest reason of having prosthetic legs
its the idea that he is meant to be very traditionally pirate-y as the first pirate, peg leg, eyepatch are part of that
Zeffs is cooler 
The question with the Haki Nuke is how was able to recognize who was an enemy and who was not.
We already saw the eyepatch guy
Did Joyboy saw the future?
Why the change lol
Itās a bootstrap paradox
Wouldn't put it past them to have the ability to make prosthetic robot arm/leg etc
Luffy sees Emet use the Haki knot
Oh, the Luffy is Joyboy theory
So when he goes back in time, he gives him the Haki knot
it would be fun, give him a parrot and all while Oda is at it too
rOgƩrio died from throat cancer
yea
Yessir
Never cook again
It will be really mindblowing if it becomes canon.
Is linking tv tropes dot com against the spoiler rules
It wont
not too surprising, I think Roger's VA was very experienced and on the older side
They use spoiler tags
Its dumb af
u r right
I remember hearing of that back when he was recasted the first time around
Yall love acting like this isnāt one of the most common tropes for a reason
no, they use spoiler tags
You know how many dumb things Oda has done just for the funs?
And every time its ass
If is Dumb, more likely Oda will do it.
Oda isn't having Luffy travel back in time & be Joyboy
but why tho? Does adult Rogerās voice not fit young mustacheless Roger?
Wrong
We can only wait to see it.
no its for old Roger still lol, the OG VA is just very old iirc
A certain space black hole movie is heat
Thereās tons of good uses of this trope
Oda will be another cause heās the goat
young Roger also already has a specific VA, this isnt for GV
maybe its just a general change, maybe they didnt wanna work with the last one anymore, maybe he just cant do the work anymore
who was it
WHAT
yea just checked, previous VA is now 81 years old
ha cute~
yea just checked egghead still ends december
and the first VA, passed away at age 85
WHY
yes, 2 more episodes

HUH
so makes sense, the VA change is because the guy is 81 now. I actually thought his voice was awesome personally, does anyone have a clip of the new one?
or maybe there are multiple Roger clones š
uh no š
bruh
If only he were in his 60s or maybe even 70s instead
almost sincerely replied
Bri'ish Nami, innit?
@tranquil blade am I right
Crocus sells Rogers DNA to the highest bidder whenever he needs some quick money

iceland š
i understand this actually
no confusion this time
Brit recognize Brit.
iceland im kidding, probs the uk in mind

Exactly gang
CHAPTER WEEK

its been 67 years...
Arsal istg
Oh thatās from one of my fav spreads
the 67 consumes me now, its horrible
this break was so long
if I hear 67, no matter the context, I am going to giggle a lil bit
do the japanese OP VAs read the manga?
mayumi tanaka doesnt
my computer wallpapers are all OP color spreads, theyāre pretty cool
i did see a D&D theory that suggests Roger was sick coz of haki.. something on the lines..
( i didnt watch the full vid, so i'll just drop this, im sorry
)
Oykot confirmed.
You need professional help
she discovers storybeats through the anime itself when she reads the dialogue
yeah Luffy's VA doesnt atleast, but i think Sanji's did?
idk about the others
that haki is linked to life and spirit
because I remember Oda addressing him during WCI iirc
Look on the left
they probably do read the manga
She has better things to do than read this garbage.
COW PIECE IS REAL š š®

Are these his legs
Luffy's
him and Usopp's from what I can recall, others dont
cya
Iāve already decided they were choppers
chat whats one thing luffy would love about you?
But thank you for your assistance
Funniest power ever. Sans the jacket fruit maybe
Thereās cheese on Luffyās pizza. Cow piece
Broās got a stand
fair he ate a human fruit anyway or something like that
he would hate me cuz I like cherry pie
why did Oda put it on his tummy
Because itās funny

āSo yea. I rub my tummy and a blue man comes out and starts fightingā
Brook might be asking to see all the panties here lol
He'd probably hate my entire existence ngl
Does the genie ever get stronger is does it come out as strong as it will ever be
why
He def is lmao
I'm super selfish etc
If the genie is just a set strength, clears all the way to the New World.
before i leave, just this:
what the hell are those things ?
Luffy is also super selfish
damn
hair?
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Elbaf soon
If only...
Oh shit
u know, without any context
this shot could get some1 thinking "this is evil luffy unleashing his dark haki lightning blast"

Finally gear death
luffy bout to say something like "i am no joyboy, i am the white death god!" with that look
"these filthy mortals are beneath me"
worked hard and smart today, and still no hints. sad
in fact, if u just recolor the white into red or black
u can totally make it look like evil luffy
toei
anime always makes g5 scary
what armpit hair lol. Thatās regular hair
What is the opposite of joy
usually its more cuz "he's a psycho but he's laughing" tho
not some "FILTHY PEASANTS, THOU ART BENEATH MY NOTICE"
shoulder hair
misery / despair
This shit was so fucking funny
But also so incredibly hype
Like why did he all of a sudden become gorgeous lmfao
then again, this wasnāt in the manga, so Toei could have run their imagination too deep
yeah, btw im just kidding xd
emeth buffed up joyboy's look to final boss god look
sa D. boy
I think Imu is an old woman who wants to use Vivi to get her beauty back or something
What the heck is that?
its one of the possibilities
I think Luffy went too far this time
hi, HPQ. the original image is from Naruto bad animation
Hey, oh so a redraw
Toei doesn't seem to know what to do with Imu
Sounds like a real deviantart OC
tis a real frame from naruto
He's becoming a who from the Grinch
tbf its hard to blame em when Oda just refuses to reveal what he looks like lol, they can only assume
maybe Imu really is just.. black?
odas hackery is the one thing that unites the bourgeoisie and the proletariat
everybody hates his bs
rubberized the ocean too holy aura
Hair probably
Roger says so
the strawhat gotta be joyboys huh?
is Emet dead?
Bonney: Mary Joy š¦¦
Black Demalo 
maybe its connected to Bucanners... being alive even if they are dead... dunno
I'm glad they kept joyboy as a duck
i respectfully doubt it
You would wish the first major shonen non binary final antagonist would have some aura...
Just out of respect yknow
they do
iāve been on the they/them imu train for like 2 years now
but i have zero faith in oda
I do think its the likely option, the devil is not bound by the concept of gender binary at all
Why would Imu even be that
mostly what arsal said
Aint the devil usually a guy with a beard
you dont expect too much from the less advanced 1st world country in these topics
i just dont think oda would think about non-binary stuff
in christian depictions yeah
devilbeard šŖæ
that bottle is way too big for him
well the demon is at least all black on the mural
this is the least toei has animated shanks
what if Lily fucked up and released this supposed demon sealed in Alabasta
Imu has just very comfortably been both male and female already so to speak, Saturn and Gunko's possessions have been the embodiment of this whole concept
Idk if the gender really matters tho it wouldn't change much about what Imu does
See how fun this trope is
Its not something that concerns them, unlike for example, everybody ever in the series when Law used their body swap powers on them
Probably bc Imu is centuries old why would they care
IMU aināt bound by the limits of gender
or he is a pervy
again, not a bible expert, but angels are supposed to be genderless arent they? and "he" is a fallen angel
Imu seems more like an entity to me anyways
kinda... but in Christianity there is the greco-roman deep layer.. so the angels can have gender sometimes
at least in depictions
yeah depends on how they appear
like if they show up to people theyāll typically be gendered (the generic angels you think of)
the angels have Greco-roman feats in art, but they are like sphynx originally
oh yea but thats more like appearing in a specific form to make the humans comfortable, not their original form
It isn't really something that they make explicitly clear tho since it doesn't matter much they just call everything under that category "he"
yeah
What are we talking about?
the angels in bible had descendants with women...
i donāt study the bible so iāve got no clue lmao
I think if Imu is the devil then he wouldnt be bound by the concept of gender at all
yeah same lol
yeah i donāt think imu is literally a sea devil
There's technically different kinds of angels or at least some that take a humanoid form almost all the time and others that take more inhuman forms primarily
iām still coping that itās a devil fruit power
well theres the idea that Nerona Imu just ate a devil fruit and its spirit consumed him
but thats kind of a roundabout way to still just say that he is the devil honestly
angels originally were like this
even this thing is called Charub, cognate of Cherubim
btw, I tried this today.
it needed a good sauce, but it was oddly satisfying to eat
because its still just the devil taking over
it kinda looks like they took a meatball and stuck it on a bone
Well that's one kind of angle the cherubs, there's also the seraphim
I doubt Imu would rly care about it so I doubt we'll get an explicit name
seraphims are snake-like
WW
Imuās a demiurge
Luffy looks so cold in this
We know Imu likes butterflies š¦ I donāt blame Imu. Butterflies are cool
Imuhotep
Iām also coming around to Imu as an umibozu
āCause, like
imubozo
oh its a legit link nvm
Swords hurt 
Yeah with a ton of wings and flames in some depictions
The three musketeers 
depends where you are hit
this looks like Dark Magicianās magic circle
cause seraph has the same root of a venomous snake or fire spitter snake
(basically a dragon)
this panel is key here, either the answer is simply just a Devil Fruit or its still just linked to the Devil Fruit
Imuās full on demon form is definitely a Dragon
the devil fruits encyclopedia is publicly available?
kind of
what if Imu has the book with all DF powers?
Its not like, contraband
this could be Imu.
THOSE FOLKS
eh kinda boring
Unless this is meant to throw the reader off and it actually is something else
The sea devil that was the origin of DFs would still fit into what Jinbe is saying basically
who are "those folks" ?
definitely not these folks
you know... those folks, under that person
Jinbe what do you mean by "those folks"
just this lol
maybe he meant "a certain someone"
honestly my main thing against it is i just donāt like the idea of gods or mythical beings in one piece being real things
on a certain island
in a certain year
What we dont know is Imu is actually a single devil in a council of devils that rule the universe, and its all set up to One Piece 2: Adventures of Buffy the space pirate. As he goes around destroying the devils
I really doubt that, I think the idea is to still ultimately link it all up to DFs, thats why Oda threw in that line
imu being a devil it'd lost all the rich motifs in human conflict, ideals etc
guys, imu gender is irrelevant
the only thing we need to know is if imu can do this
how many demons are there supposed to be in the levels of hell again
like 108
eh I feel we're already past that point with Nika
if imu cant do one good punch, then its all worthless
this is digusting, mods, ban that helper!
108 is the number of temptations a man must resist in Buddhism.
There is not a specific number of demons.
I know at least two people who can do that
oh wait, one of them is dead now that I think about it
I just tried,.. 
a rumor suggests that the name of the successor to the One Piece series is One More Piece
Please remove this gif
I mean according to Dante's inferno idk there might be some specific number of demons, but from the actual bible it's some countless number
nah I think nika can still easily be explained as being just a myth that brought people hope (and then being brought to life via the fruit), but the mural makes the idea of real mythical beings more likely
People have been speculating about the existence of the devil in the series for ages, the power system is literally "the fruit of the devil", Its the one mythical creature that has kinda always needed to exist. I dont remember anyone opposing this idea till VP threw in his own theory about these things
is she a snake?
did they die after they managed to do that?
There are the 72 demons related to the rings of solomon
Sorry for your loss
technically my grandma did
oh thatās what iām thinking of
I only remember because of iruma....
the devil can be present in this supposed rite of seal
but i hope this entity and Imu not being the same being
the horns on the sun
I dunno. I usually judge that based on egg consumption
I wonder if Oda will go full Ouroboros and make Tot Musica canon (but not the events of film red)
But then make Uta know about it anyway
Sorry Dolfius not rings the Lesser keys of Solomon or the Ars Goetia, which lists the 72 demons
but only if the shell is regurgitated.
iruma and Magi
an awesome manga btw
the mural also opens itās possibilities
rich storytelling <- - Magi
I agree but I don't see it as a big difference, ultimately he is still a mythical divine being regardless of where his powers came from. The existences of the Devil and the Mother Sea will just be Oda taking it a step further
I forgot about why Robin joined Crocodileās company. Why was that?
For her own safety since he had warlord status
to read the poneglyff, no?
and the mother sea is the same too, another mythical being that has been speculated about for as long as she has been a thing in the series
Oh nvm likely that yea as well
for me the distinction comes from the being always having existed and having actual godly powers vs being a power from a fruit
Mother sea, my favorite OST
i have a lot more of an issue with the former but thatās just a personal thing
oda said devil lords exist in one piece universe
Also Robin was supposed to have Doflamingoās fruit, wasnāt she?
I mean you have something like Poseidon too which is not a devil fruit but also is clearly some type of supernatural power
so its more than canon
break over yet?
technically yes
hype
itās chapter week

the ritual sealing btw
but even the idea of the fruits manifesting like they supposedly do is very fantastical and magical in nature, it just wouldnt be crazy at all if something divine was involved in it
Almost... out... of... the... flashback
one chapter closer to shanks one shotting loki 
It's been 84 years
- Lily/Vivi
- Poneglyphs
- Imu-hotep??
many egyptian themes
the DF camps pre VP theory were divided into "eh I dont care if Oda explains, better if he doesnt " and "Its gonna be a mythical thing", the VP theory is the only reason why people insist so much that it has to be something that just HAPPENED on its own
and I just dont buy it, I think what Shanks heard is more closer to the truth
weāre so back
this is old
yeah idk why i draw the line at gods when everything else is so fantastical
but i didnāt like tot musica in red either
oh yea speaking of that
I think it wasnāt Shanks only who toppled Loki. I think all crew members contributed to it.
What did he hear?
Oda did basically straight up say "yeah something like that does exist in the OPVerse" lol
Yeah?
Tell me more about both
that all DFs are the incarnations of the sea devil, he said it to Buggy
and 1s, on the 2nd thing
A red hair talking to a Davy š
is this⦠Elisabeth?
erizabesuuuuuuuuuu
I need to rewatch Gintama at some point
so who takes the win, Primebeard or Primekuma?
thats what i said
isnāt that just Brook?
well you have the hell in one piece too
no its a real demonic creature in the movie, thats summoned using a specific sheet of music
or brooks final opponent
I totally forgot about the movie. Went watching it in theaters with 2 friends. It was so disappointing.
yeaa, Ignore the early viz translation,
Shanks: I've heard that Devil Fruits are incarnations of the devil of the sea. If you eat one, you'll gain special "Devil Powers," but the sea will hate you for it.
what chapter is that?
19
Amu Biancona
Guys Iām making a manga I wanna showcase it to someone on screenshare but i also need opinions and criticism please dm
just switch the colours
Akainu will save the world confirmed
Send the manga panel
randomly found this too lol
I'll create the world's greatest pirate crew right away and steal even more trea...
average twitter user learns both can be true
akainu redemption arc
the cruelest crew ever is a crazy dream
Ah
soon
you saw that? @grand flower
I'm not sure which fate is worse for Akainu fans. Losing to Sabo or Akainu fighting on Luffy's side
the fate of the world lies in whoever finds captain johns treasure...
Im not really sure how Oda feels about Akainuās fate. Like surely killing Ace probably doesnāt put him in Odaās good grace as far as a good conclusion?
Akainu fighting on Luffyās side sucks so freaking much
someone will be avenging ace by the end
Losing to Koby
why does everyone want every single marine to changes sides
Akainu either dying or gets imprisoned
let people stay antagonistic
i donāt know if akainu fighting alongside luffy is better or worse than blackbeard fighting alongside luffy
both suck
akainu would go against the government but he wouldnt side with pirates either
Akainu cant change sides because if he did he'd make the war too easy for the good guys

Blackbeard and Luffy fighting alongside is better because it can work if they are doing it unintentionally
true magma is famously the best way to defeat people
Akainu is a big part of Hachinosu War, Shuron convinced me on that
so he must play nice with Luffy, even if neither wants it
Akainu gotta make a choice here I don't think there's space to be against luffy and the wg
yeah
It did kill two emperors and wound another
doing what?
leading the group of Marines that saves Garp
akainu is gonna steal pluton of course
for the honour of the Marines
True I forgot Akainu solo'd Whitebeard too silly me
okay no thats bad, thats not happening, Shuron is mega wrong on that
that sounds so boring
LOL
and bad
not at all
Changed your mind on the spot lol
he tweakin in that fr
i donāt like the idea of a hachinosu war but i canāt deny itās possible
Akainu wont side with luffy
yeah thatās my take too
I donāt follow it
Akainu is woke
Hes a hero
but I wonāt deny Arsal that itās a possibility
When every single Marine is now against the WG 
so boring man
itāll be like a 20 v 1
i canāt see any world in which akainu would help in rescuing garp though
why do people want that
Greenbull will never change sides. He'll be fleet admiral of the loyalists if akainu turns
Bro is following Akainu like a puppy dog to whatever akainu chooses
i donāt want akainu to be a good guy but i hope he doesnāt stick with the WG
I hope he sinks with the ship
but yea, I think its interesting as a direction for him, Akainu had previously maintained this level of antagonism with his character that it was hard to picture him being anything but a complete monster, but lately he has started to almost feel more human with his interactions with Kuma and Kizaru. It would be interesting to see him try to coexist with not only Koby but worse, with Luffy too.
Bro is a true believer in the cd hierarchy. Akainu turning against that would be a dealbreaker
I think GB prioritizes the CDs more than he does Akainu
He says that he likes how Akainu does things, but him turning against the CD isnāt something GB would like
I forgot my entire conversation with Shuron but it lead to me developing an insane idea of Akainu sacrificing himself as his big moment of redemption, which I quite liked
It might even be interesting to reflect on akainu that what greenbull likes about him is perceived support of the cds/system
Sacrificing himself to do what?
let Akainu be a villain/antagonist
I hope its not saving Garp
yeah
fuh no
Akainu doesn't consider himself as needing redemption. That's a prerequisite
yeah
doesnt matter, he will do it for the Marines
you sound exactly like Sharon
i guess akainu could have a character arc like "wow, maybe i shouldnt indiscriminately despise all pirates and law breakers equally" but that feels weird
neither of us know Akainu like that to say this
Good Akainu theories just aint it anymore huh
i feel like we've seen enough from him to say that
they are more in than ever actually
I disagree I don't think that's at all an unfair conclusion of what we've seen
he doesnt look pleased with his current situation but it doesnt have to do with his own justice or morality
his interaction with Kuma was him at his most human, his interaction with Kizaru similarly as well
and his possible relationship with Hibari is gonna be another element that will further humanize him, something that worked quite well with Xebec!
he better be hibari's dad
people confuse "good Akainu" for "Luffy will be besties with him"
i feel like villains dont really get proper redemptions in this series though
but its just "well Akainu is a more complex human being than he has seemed so far", thats really all, not even "good" per se
especially for someone like akainu whos already done so much bad
Hatchan did
Iāve been saying this
Germa kinda has its big moment of self sacrifice for the crew too
its not redemption, but still nice
yeah but as we saw from judge hes still a piece of shit lol
and his sons are sticking with him
the closest i could think of redemption is like buggy i guess but thats only relative to how he was in orange town
he is yea, but he still did one good thing for once atleast
and Lucci well
him covering up for Stussy at the end of Egghead is quite a development for him too
its defintely a good development
these things just arent immediate, we're in his redemption arc really
and him caring about kaku
I think itās different that Oda gives character human moments than him actually redeeming them
but he has to do a lot to atone for what hes done in the past lol
by the time we get to the final war, he will be reuniting with Paulie again
not a joke smh
I mean again, I didnt use the word good once for these characters
Akainu too, by no definition, will ever be good
will he be arrested after the war ends then
but they are complex, and they can get better
Lucci?
