also-manga

[blazing depot]

I could be married when One Piece ends

Maybe a kid

[digital spear]

A beautiful glimpse into the future when we will finally be free

[pulsar path]

One-piece is the true oppressor

Ironic

[hot cairn]

there’s probably stuff that won’t get answered

I doubt Oda really will answer every question we have

the things at thriller bark will never get revealed for example

[pulsar path]

Probably

I do wonder if we will get a printed devil fruit book

Cus I want that

And a true world map

[pine ridge]

nah I think the florian triangle will be very plot relevant

[tranquil blade]

You'd think so but there's people who are married and have kids who still use this server sometimes

[frail kindle]

imagine being old and using this server

[thin quest]

I'm 32 and use this server

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/view/wow2022-gif-23885960

[thin quest]

invite me the unction

[wet condor]

We all know you're 34 Spice

Posting this gif like that ain't him

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/view/old-dance-elderly-get-down-hump-gif-10518633

[hot cairn]

how so?

[hot cairn]

I think it’ll be different if OP is over

[vestal mural]

[hazy turret]

We know he’s unc because he’s a Robin fan

[wet condor]

That doesn't seem quite right

I am also a Robin fan

[hazy turret]

That fact is not lost on me

[wet condor]

I am actually an uncle

But I have two more years until I am an "unc"

[vestal mural]

What’s the threshold for unc anyway

[hazy turret]

That poor poor child smh

[wet condor]

When you're ignorant of like 3-4 recent new pop culture references probably

in which case I've been an unc for a minute

spiritually

[vestal mural]

Oh

[wet condor]

I'll have you know I am a good uncle

[vestal mural]

OH

[wet condor]

Slanderous

[vestal mural]

I’ve been an unc for a while then

[wet condor]

Same lol

[vestal mural]

I’m at the point in my life where I understand why my parents wouldn’t find the stuff I found funny, funny.

[hazy turret]

Oh yeah? Buy an iPhone for them right now then

[verbal tiger]

If you have a nephew you are an uncle

Unless you have a niece, then you are an aunt

[vital heart]

Hey guys

[wet condor]

They parents got that

I'll just give money lol

[hazy turret]

I bet you’re the type of uncle that stomps around the house and yells when all the kids are visiting the grandparents

[hazy turret]

Sup meek

[wet condor]

More slander

I'm not that grouchy uncle

Not even old enough to be that yet

[hazy turret]

Yet

[leaden rivet]

As if this were such a feat

Uncles don’t need to do anything

[wet condor]

That's why it is a feat

Because I do above the bare minimum

Or more than nothing rather

[thick mango]

As long as you're at least neutral I think that's an uncle win

[pulsar path]

Charlie finally finished the anime https://youtu.be/Z43xNc90OYE?si=5i-vyLzn_torM7nC

[vital heart]

Hey guys

[pulsar path]

Hi meek

[thick mango]

Meek who's your current #1 of the week? Imu?

[pulsar path]

Idk if you guys remember when he was discussing luffys with fats 😂😭

Wait dude this dudes been in our discord who the f is Charlie's alt account

Sabo shade thrown

[mighty shell]

[thick mango]

Sabo does kinda suck tho

[bleak plover]

I knew Moist was mid, I didn't know he was bad.

[thick mango]

With the ace tattoo it does feel like it was planned for sure but I can't shake the feeling that it's like oh luffy lost his brother don't worry he has a backup brother

[pulsar path]

Damn lmao he had a lot of our same taste ( meaning our discord )

[ashen perch]

this is just so reductive

[maiden charm]

Watching it right now. Charlie just called Mihawk a fraud 😭😭

[thick mango]

I acknowledge that. It's like a... feeling yknow. It doesn't come from reasoned analysis

[hazy echo]

https://fixupx.com/wadai__2/status/1999816515231826016/en

ネットの話題の出来事 (@Wadai__2)

📑 Translated from Japanese

"My Hero Academia" has concluded, and among the current Jump serialization lineup (excluding Hunter), "Jujutsu Kaisen" has become the second longest, but "Jujutsu Kaisen" started right here.

Original text
『僕のヒーローアカデミア』が完結し
︀︀現役ジャンプ連載陣で(ハンターを除いて)2番目に長いのは『呪術廻戦』になりましたが
︀︀『呪術廻戦』が始まったのはここです

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FixupX · Dec 13, 2025, 12:19 PM

[ashen perch]

The only thing they have in common outside the relationship with Luffy is the devil fruit and that is very meaningful on its own too, its not tacked on, its not random

[thick mango]

Oda is kinda the king of having the cake he just ate too

[ashen perch]

well with a little bit of reasoned analysis, you could shake that feeling off pretty easily

[thick mango]

Sabo is the cake he gets to have after he ate the ace cake

[pulsar path]

I was dying lol even mentioned vista

[ashen perch]

I dont think any part of Sabo is intended to "replace" Ace, I don't think he ever intended to find a replacement for Ace either

he made Ace with the intention to kill

[thick mango]

Ya I think that was written on the wall from very early

[bleak plover]

I owe Charlie an apology, I wasn't familiar with his game.

[thick mango]

He's just kinda taking up luffys spot in the story he's gotta go

[ashen perch]

His role was to die so Luffy can grow, thats what he existed for. There isnt a vacancy that Oda is looking to fill with him, because his role started and ended there and then

[latent hamlet]

But it does feel awkward to have a surprise 3rd brother that surprise actually talks to the MC's dad, is a super cool army general, and ALSO gets the 2nd brother's power

[pulsar path]

Charlie had some other interesting things to say about Sabo like he conties to have fake out deaths lol I didn't even see that till he pointed it out t

[latent hamlet]

If anything its like "ok I killed ace and got that story beat, now lets get ace 2.0"

[ashen perch]

is it? you can reduce a lot of characters to that, it would be silly though

[thick mango]

See that's the feeling I'm alluding to smugu gets what I'm saying it's not completely out of left field

[bleak plover]

I did not understand this message.

[maiden charm]

Yea I just got to his sabo take

[latent hamlet]

I think it feels more prevalent to me because u have that flashback with Sabo, and then u get to Dressrosa and its like "hi im actually the missing brother, also I talk to Dragon which every1 is still hyped about, I got Ace's fruit, I solo Fujitora"

[hazy echo]

https://fixupx.com/zororobinwife/status/1999919194628833390?s=46

vic 🎃 (@zororobinwife)

one piece christmas parodies will never fail to crack me up 😭😭

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FixupX · Dec 13, 2025, 7:07 PM

[ashen perch]

I did that with Xebec the other day to prove the same point, he sounds more fanfic-y than Sabo does but again, I think that itself is a silly way to look at characters

[pulsar path]

Fixed

[maiden charm]

When u put it like this. Yea I can see why he would call sabo a fanfic character

[latent hamlet]

Rocks lowkey does feel almost fanficy, but he's also a flashback character

[bleak plover]

I understand this message now.

[pulsar path]

It's been kinda Joke about Sabo for a min that his description sounds like an OC lol

[latent hamlet]

Rocks got feats upon feats on his debut doing the most crazy shit

He's also dead

[maiden charm]

No no, this has always been my take on xebec. That's why I grew tired of the god valley flashback after 4 chapters.
Because Xebec literally comes off as "insert Chad trait"

Always aura farming

[ashen perch]

The concept of Imu would be rejected as fanfic if it was mentioned by anyone before introduction, I just don't think it matters really, cause that isnt how you should view characters

[maiden charm]

Lore bombs
And then he's a good dad too? Oda trying to hard

[ashen perch]

is he?

he is just trying to make him sympathetic

[latent hamlet]

I dont think Sabo is strictly a fanfic character
But it does feel like Oda wanted another Ace

[maiden charm]

I don't how I feel about that being all it took

[ashen perch]

that was the key element that made Xebec feel human after being portrayed as this terroristic monster since his introduction

[urban lodge]

Dollar store Whitebeard

[maiden charm]

YES

[ashen perch]

this was important for what Oda was going for, I dont see how thats trying too hard

[pulsar path]

I sometimes think what would one-piece be like being recreated with future characters and themes incorporated from the beginning

[tranquil blade]

No

[ashen perch]

but again, this would make sense if there was some void that Ace was leaving, some major vacancy that had opened up post death, but his role since the day he was conceived by Oda was to die so that Luffy can grow. He fulfilled that role already, and Sabo is in an entirely different role as an entirely different human being

[urban lodge]

Cool strong badass guy who has a family

But executed 10x worse

[tranquil blade]

This is literally Shanks

[leaden rivet]

I feel what you’re saying also

Even if that’s not exactly what it is it really feels that way

[ashen perch]

I mean people are allowed to have families and care for them without being compared to WB idk

[thick mango]

his role for the future of the story is very different but there is a role hes sliding into of like.. childhood best friend of luffy that can automatically have a close relationship despite not having been mentioned on the travels so far

[leaden rivet]

Rocks is more of a fanfic character than Sabo

[urban lodge]

Tbf Shanks abandoned his family... Probably twice if Makino's child is his

[pulsar path]

Eh when did we know bb ship was named the sword of xebec

[latent hamlet]

Understandably luffy and ace would have no reason to bring up their dead bro in the story before ace actually dying
But given how dressrosa was probably the arc that was super huge with all these story beats coming together, it feels almost like oda wanted that ace 2.0 vibe

[ashen perch]

Its a thing, people tend to care about their families, its a common trope in anti-hero media too. Family is the one thing that even no villain would compromise over.

[leaden rivet]

In a vivre card

[thick mango]

the wiki claims it was first named in a wooden ship merch thing https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Wooden_Art_ki-gu-mi

[pulsar path]

I guess but Luffy won't shut the f up about ace since he passed

[leaden rivet]

That released around wholecake iirc

[pulsar path]

Didn't it get titled ever in the manga?

[latent hamlet]

He does, I consider Sabo a "i need another ace figure."
Its not inconceivable, but it sure feels kinda funny that Sabo has all of these, then proceeds to take ace's power

[thick mango]

they look kinda cool i wish they had a nostra castello

[maiden charm]

Yea u got a point

[latent hamlet]

Like...Sabo taking ace fruit is appropriate story wise but it kinda removes some uniqueness

[latent hamlet]

Is it luffy talking or more "OH HEY STRAW HAT, REMEMBER ACE"

Looking at u yamato

[pulsar path]

True

[leaden rivet]

I don’t quite remember

[pulsar path]

Im trying to decide who was more of a character earlier on lol

[urban lodge]

I don't think it was ever named in the manga

[latent hamlet]

True, but then when u think about the stuff that Sabo has gone through and the storybeats he's connected in
Why strictly a "3rd brother who was dead is actually not dead"
Is it cuz a 3rd brother is more impactful than "random friendly rev"

[maiden charm]

Luffy don't bring up ace unless it's shoved onto him

Let's be real

[ashen perch]

I think Oda wasn't thinking of replacing Ace when he made a very touching display of how much it means to Sabo and before that, Luffy, that his memory is preserved through his devil fruit, and not tarnished by some dipshit like Burgess

[maiden charm]

The whole otama sequence

[thick mango]

the whole long term amnesia thing doesnt really help the feeling that hes like a band aid over missing ace

[ashen perch]

and again, it implies that Oda needs another Ace, he doesn't. His role in the story ended the way it was meant to.

[thick mango]

thats the kinda bs amnesia you use to pave over a plothole

[leaden rivet]

Arsal i feel like you’re looking way too deep into what’s being said

[thick mango]

sabo is amnesia at its worst

honestly a missed opportunity too

[warm sierra]

Watch Oda insert Shanks into the past, hitting Sabo over the head every time he was about to remember for more emotional impact

[thick mango]

dragon coulda had the whole... what we're doing is bigger than saving individual friends conversation with sabo

and peopel would think hes full of shit for a while then we see him not save ginney later and know he meant it

[warm sierra]

Didnt Sabo and the other revs really go out of their way to get Kuma out of Mariejois? How would that conversation have fit

[pulsar path]

They were much stronger tho at that time

[thick mango]

yeah but that wasnt really about solely saving a friend, in theory it was a huge intelligence win plus they did some other stuff while they were there

[maiden charm]

It was sabos ego at the time if I'm correct. He changed the plan because he saw Kuma being ridden

[thick mango]

oh thats the other thing potentialy being just a victory/target of opportunity

i dont remember what their stated goal was

[maiden charm]

Neither do I tbh

[thick mango]

i mean you can disagree or not with that but the point is sabo shouldnt have gone to save ace for the same reason dragon didnt go to save ginney. and that coulda been the answer as to why he didnt show up rather than amnesia

[maiden charm]

Like how tf did sabo get to the throne room

[warm sierra]

I mean WG is just incompetent

[tough igloo]

didn’t he hear guards talking about it ? lol

[ashen perch]

I think Oda wanted to have a younger main protagonist to the revolutionary struggle against the World Government/Celestial Dragons, who is connected to Luffy so that he and the readers both can more closely sympathise with that struggle, care more about that on a deeper level. Random friendly Rev feels distant and wouldnt have gone through what Sabo did and more importantly wouldnt have shared those experiences with Luffy like Sabo did during that ASL flashback.

[thick mango]

i dunno i think if i met someone during some extended robin rescue time

whatever that guys name was who liberated tequila wolf coulda been the guy

and just give that more time instead of luffy childhood

[ashen perch]

Sabo wanted to explore more into Marie Geoise, it was a reckless move and not part of the mission

[thick mango]

the story doesnt really punish him if thats supposed to be the framing

[ashen perch]

as for how, I mean the guards were shortstaffed

[thick mango]

it was a reckless move he got away with completely

[ashen perch]

he almost dies

[thick mango]

not really as a direct result of his reckless actions

[pulsar path]

I wonder if Sabo was luffys older blood brother if that would have a better impact even tho that would be conflicting dragons whole kid being his weakness.

[thick mango]

if you mean lulusia

that was random chance, the reckless moment had passed

[ashen perch]

oh no I mean in the throne room

Imu almost kills him

[thick mango]

oh i guess but i dunno that doesnt really register as a cost for me

its a cost evaded

[ashen perch]

and while he is on his way to Lulusia, he is praying that he survives because thats how deadly it was

[thick mango]

people 'almost die' of spooky attacks/wounds/etc like 1 in 5 chapters and are fine 99/100 times it doesnt really hit like a consequence

[warm sierra]

Gunko probably did the arrow thing in the throne room right?

[ashen perch]

idk man, you dont have to feel it to see it being a clear consequence of his recklessness

[thick mango]

isnt that risk kind of baked into the mission as-is?

[ashen perch]

the rest of the Revos got out completely safely, because they stuck to the plan, which was a brilliant plan

[thick mango]

im wondering on this thread if dragon actually is correct. And Ive been a cautious dragon defender the whole time

but maybe to an exagerrated sense in this world beyond whats true irl fortune favors the bold and excessive caution is the wrong approach

[vital heart]

Hey guys

[ashen perch]

meek

I am genuinely serious

if this is a bit

you have to stop

this is your 9th hey guys thats went literally nowhere

[ashen perch]

correct in what?

[thick mango]

in taking a steady cautious approach rather than one with a bit more risk/recklessness

to some extent, recklessness seems to overlap in the instances where reckless people seem especially fate-blessed

maybe thats something like haki where you get a little fate blessed single mindedly chasing some goal

BB is another example where apparent recklessness is often rewarded rather than punished

[hot cairn]

fats talked to Charlie?

[ashen perch]

ah, I feel its not excessive though, its all needed. Initially he needed a long time to prepare so he was simply just focusing on uplifting oppressed nations all over the world as a mercenary for them, not directly confronting the WG. Since then, He has been building power and organizing all over the globe slowly and is only now ready enough to declare war against them too. Speaking of declaring war, I am not sure why he should be more aggressive than that in his approach lol, thats as aggressive as he should get. I guess maybe an all out attack on the place (if he hasnt done that already) could be that but I think he is playing the attrition game with them and thats just smart. As for BB, he too is also working on some plan of his own that involves Garp, so even he isnt that reckless, only Luffy was and he was called an idiot for even thinking of it lol

actually the reason why I think Dragon isnt launching some all out attack on Marie Geoise is because I think he is smart, way smarter than both his dad and his son

we just saw what Garp landed himself into by being reckless lol, thats not something Dragon would do

[thick mango]

yeah i agree under normal circumstances dragon is on the winning path. But im wondering if there could be one piece world forces that nudge the scales in favor of people making bold willful (sometimes reckless) actions

people get all hype about big flashy fights but dragon's siege does more real damage to the wg than any defeat of some elite fighter like a gods knight or admiral could

[vital heart]

????? Do you not remember the good ol days

I’ve done this hundreds of times by now tbh

[ashen perch]

he will get to that eventually too anyways, but he would have hurt them badly before it, atleast the Celestials themselves if not the top top guys

[thick mango]

It does sometimes seem like supernatural luck is a real power in op, like for buggy in marineford

[ashen perch]

he will do both and thats pretty cool, big flashy moments where he is handling those top top guys can wait

[ashen perch]

I feel youre doing it more after you were given a command

a wiseman once told me that commands are a corrupting influence on people

[fallen meteor]

theres a meek command?

!meek

[tropic nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/738580480437387264/1446300848891101275/hey_guys.mp4?ex=6934cda1&is=69337c21&hm=9e287afdfe9fa3539ad425d03605119e92c595cbebd4039a9bbce99fb4269eef&

[fallen meteor]

oh

[thick mango]

this setup would also have the 3 other emperors be the masters of power systems; haki for shanks, fruits for bb, and supernatural luck for buggy

[ashen perch]

yeah...

[thick mango]

Im reaching for now but i wouldnt be surprised if all the fate talk eventually has fate being real

[ashen perch]

Luffy all 3...

[vital heart]

Juba?

[vital heart]

buggy isnt that lucky especially compared to BB and Luffy if you really think about it

[thick mango]

maybe if you think in absolute terms but not if you think in relative terms

luck is a much more significant portion of the causes of buggy's rise compared to luffy and bb

[leaden rivet]

Buggy lucked his way into being emperor

Blackbeard and Luffy definitely had to put in more work to be an emperor

Along with luck

[hot cairn]

Dragon plays the long game rather than the impulsive methods that both Luffy and Garp have

[ashen perch]

he isnt the only wiseman we have had yknow

[ashen perch]

yea, and I love that about him

[leaden rivet]

I wonder who actually raised dragon

[thick mango]

garp probably

[leaden rivet]

He’s quite a bit different from Luffy and Garp

[hazy turret]

But you’re the one who made the command

[tranquil blade]

Probably just Garp

[dusky citrus]

Gng

[leaden rivet]

Garp raising his children seems out of character

[tranquil blade]

I mean he might have treated Dragon differently since he is his own son versus Luffy who was his grandson, on top of that he was much younger back then

[lofty fern]

I've always assumed that Garp was a career man. He'd have no time to really raise a kid, so probably his mother

[leaden rivet]

Oh I forgot dragon had a mother

[tranquil blade]

So I could see him raising Dragon in a different way, but at the same time that doesnt necessarily mean what you're saying is wrong

[ashen perch]

look my memory can be horrible but I'd remember something that bad if i had done it

[lofty fern]

🤯

[tranquil blade]

Garp probably couldnt be around all the time

So maybe Dragon's mother influenced him

[hazy turret]

Haha you got me :p

[ashen perch]

Luffy's grandma actually exists

thats craazy to me

[hazy turret]

Her name is Dadan

[tranquil blade]

She's probably dead tbh

[ashen perch]

maybe yea

[tranquil blade]

No that's Luffy's mom

Different thing

[hazy turret]

She’s too old

[lofty fern]

Garp would be just starting out when Dragon was born. He'd probably be away quite often. The guy's away all the time with Luffy too so it probably hasn't changed.

[tranquil blade]

I suppose you're right

I dont think it would be Dadan

[lofty fern]

She's the same age as Dragon?

[tranquil blade]

She's 55 rn

[lofty fern]

Though Dragon probably wasn't home to even see Dadan

[hazy turret]

No uh I think in the spirit of mystery and thinking that mothers/mother figures ruin adventures, I don’t think Oda will be revealing Luffy’s mom or grandma(s)

[hazy turret]

https://tenor.com/view/imu-imu-speed-imu-ishowspeed-speed-imu-ishowspeed-imu-gif-5082088216306763781

[leaden rivet]

If she’s revealed to be alive she’ll be dying shortly anyway

[lofty fern]

If Oda's going to show Shanks' mom, he's going to show Luffy's

[hazy turret]

I just think Oda likes that mystery

[tranquil blade]

Literally the same age as Dragon which is kinda crazy

[hazy turret]

Respectfully, shanks is not Luffy

And we didn’t even see shmom’s face

[tranquil blade]

I thought she'd be like 70 something

[lofty fern]

He's even more important to Oda so give it time

[hazy turret]

Shmom is short for shanks/shamrock mom

[hazy turret]

He is NOT more important

[lofty fern]

Lady Akagami

"Oda which character is more important? Shanks or Luffy?"
Oda: 🤔

[hazy turret]

Which sbs is that

[lofty fern]

The one in Oda's head

[lofty fern]

Dragon probably got his collective and more intelligent nature from his mom. A good thing or else the RA would have never gotten off the ground

[pulsar path]

There is a clip somewhere on YouTube of them discussing Luffy. I believe charlie hated him and fats was defending him

I think he was in charlie chat not like a call or anything g

[honest garden]

It was just that someone in chat said to Charlie that the admin of the r/one piece discord hated him and Charlie spoke for a sentence about how he(fats) shouldn't be bitter that he doesn't like the manga

[vital heart]

wdym? Garp’s wife?

Or Luffy’s mom’s mom

[honest garden]

Fats dislikes Charlie for other reasons I'm sure

[tranquil blade]

Well there's good reasons to dislike him that have nothing to do with one piece

[alpine trench]

It was Pyx who did that

Madlad

[analog folio]

Wait, if rocks died who payed Shakkys bill

[tranquil blade]

but regardless idk that whole one piece beef thing was overblown imo

[honest garden]

Yeah it's just one guys opinion

[latent hamlet]

she got people paying with or without rocks

look at that line of people

[vital heart]

When did this drama happen

Give me more tea

[tranquil blade]

Like 3 years ago

Okay maybe like 2 but it's been a good minute

[wraith mantle]

so shakky travelled with the roger pirates for a bit eh?

gloriossa must have been furious

[cloud ember]

How (non)consistent are haki effects?

[trim lily]

not consistent enough to differentiate acoc from normal

[keen quiver]

Acoc just does whatever at this point

[ocean totem]

I'd argue it's pretty different enough for this at least

[latent hamlet]

ehh, i think roger backed off on shakky since she and rayleigh were officially together

[pulsar path]

But than how does boa be made?

She's Rogers daughter ya know

[latent hamlet]

is she canon uta

[strong wadi]

Unironically not that hard but people be coping

[scenic dirge]

I know you ain't talking 😭

After your Luffy 1010 ACoC fiasco, you cannot make that claim

[grand flower]

I think Kaido gon always be my favorite antagonist bro

I cannot believe people don’t like the scabbards

I love that Kaido just watches them mend her arm

[strong wadi]

That was before Oda set the rules for it

[latent hamlet]

but kos aint kills

[grand flower]

And is like “yo yall are cool”

[grand flower]

I treat OP like pro wrestling tbh

Kaido got them pin falls

https://youtu.be/MRVZe7JBd10?si=b4lohwIP-m8osdFY

This basically Kaido

[tranquil blade]

What happened there again

[grand flower]

Dude entered a tournament to challenge the champion

While being champion

And said “I’ll start at #1”

[scenic dirge]

When that chapter came out back in 2021 or whatever, Adam said Luffy wasn’t using ACoC and just advanced armament … even tho the surrounding context literally make is super obvious he was

[tranquil blade]

Alright yeah idk how he came to that conclusion

[grand flower]

He said that about 1010?

The one named supreme kings Haki?

[scenic dirge]

Yes

I think the podcast we did for that chapter is what the “Adam is a mess screenshot is from”. I know it was around then

[tranquil blade]

I dont wanna grill Adam for it too much but that's uh something

[scenic dirge]

That was prime Adam

[ocean totem]

Was I on that one?

[scenic dirge]

Early Wano/raid he had some absolute banger takes

[ocean totem]

Adam and I butted heads constantly

[scenic dirge]

Ofc lol

!adam2

[tropic nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/738580480437387264/938668613492150272/unknown.png

[ocean totem]

One of the takes that stuck was the one helping the Scabbards was Hawkins I think

[scenic dirge]

Yea

Another classic

no one did it like Adam man

[ocean totem]

Good times

[pulsar path]

She's pretty much ! Honestly Uts vs boa would be fun

[tranquil blade]

I remember this one lol

[latent hamlet]

i dont think i'd believe that with him trying to beat every1 lol

[tranquil blade]

and then there was the meme take floating around that it was Enel

[vital heart]

I had hoped it was Vivi.

[ocean totem]

That's almost as bad as Hawkins meek come on now

[alpine trench]

that's worse

[ocean totem]

Y'know what I'll say that was even worse than Hawkins

[alpine trench]

at least hawkins is on the island

[hot cairn]

why did you guys stop doing the podcast

[alpine trench]

isnt it obvious

[strong wadi]

people in life just got busy and we couldnt get on at same time anymore

[latent hamlet]

so clearly we add new people

a rotating cast of members

[strong wadi]

me working 3rd shift and sleeping from 2pm-10pm did not help

[scenic dirge]

You guys can always start a podcast/chapter discussion voice channel for yourselves lol. Ours just happened to be a staff one because we could hold the live stages

I wasn’t even originally on it at first lol. Wasn’t it archer?

Then he dipped

[tranquil blade]

I forgot you basically can do live podcasts on discord still, I havent seen anyone use that feature in a while

[ocean totem]

I swear you were OG with it

[scenic dirge]

Nah

[grand flower]

@ocean totem kid and buggy are Davy how you feel

[scenic dirge]

I only became a regular on it after you started pulling people up and then the only normal people that ever came up were me and choc so eventually I just became an actual part of it

[ocean totem]

Oh dang, I do not remember the origins lmao

[vital heart]

@ocean totem can you mute me for precisely 114 hours and 50 minutes?

[tranquil blade]

I feel like I listened to one of those podcasts but I dont remember what it was about after 5 years

[wraith mantle]

lol what does "normal people" mean

[vital heart]

This is when I'm done with my finals. Gotta focus

[grand flower]

Uninstall discorec

[alpine trench]

just delete discord or get the fuck out of the server

[tranquil blade]

lol

[wraith mantle]

damn meek do you really have zero self control

[scenic dirge]

We’d sometimes pull up folks that were uhhh… not the greatest to listen to and you’d see like 90% of the audience just leave after that so it was always a gamble bringing up random users we weren’t familiar with because they often times just hijacked the whole thing

In a bad way

[wraith mantle]

yeah ik what you mean, this why its hard to use manga discussion vc

[ocean totem]

Where's this come from?

[mighty shell]

you should have had me on the podcast

the people love me

[grand flower]

I’m glad you asked

Gimme a min

[scenic dirge]

Nah we weren’t mainstream enough to afford to have a guest as prestigious as you emood

[mighty shell]

good response

[ocean totem]

Shit

[olive sigil]

We had our chat moderator come into one of the podcast to talk and it was rough

[keen quiver]

Everyone's a Davy now

Everyone wants that teach PR

Lmao

@ocean totem this was the bitcoin moment for teach fans

[ocean totem]

Only question now is whether Joyboy was also a Davy lol

[keen quiver]

If he was related to Davy jones

This a family squabble of 800 years

At this point

[hot cairn]

Rocks mentions them as separate people

[thick mango]

Let's just make Davy the mythological first man so everyone can be a Davy

Joyboy not being Davy Jones doesn't mean he's not a Davy

[ocean totem]

^ Joyboy and Davy Jones can be two different people with Joyboy still being a Davy

[keen quiver]

First time I've seen someone say he might be a davy here

Im firm in saying will of d is different compared to will of davy

[trim lily]

yeah im still pretty locked in on D not being davy

i guess oda might be able to do something fun with there being two D meanings but i doubt he'll portray them as equal

[clever idol]

But like why

Why does joyboy need to be a davy

[ocean totem]

He doesn't

[trim lily]

it could make for a fun duality with blackbeard

[ocean totem]

There didn't have to be a Davy line in general though

[clever idol]

Ok

[trim lily]

though i imagine davy will just be the blackbeard to joyboy or something

[strong wadi]

All i know is if Joyboy is a Davy, they better just go all out and make Imu a Davy too

[thick mango]

I'm saying just make everyone a Davy what's the difference

[fluid cedar]

davy hating other davys

[keen quiver]

Added for teach

The first time we see xebec the first thing revealed is him being his father.

Wasn't prudent to reveal the info till now

[grand flower]

Joy Boy likely isn’t a Davy

Rocks mentioned him and Jones separately and asked Imu who he feared more

Also Blackbeard and luffy are the whole opposite roles thing so if teach is a Davy I imagine Luffy isn’t in that role at all either so I doubt Joy boy was

[ocean totem]

That would just make him not Davy Jones, not necessarily not a Davy

Although I don't really think that'll be the case, but it's not too out there

[grand flower]

My gut says redundant

[thick mango]

What does it even mean to he a davy

I know on a literal level you could say somehow descended from davys family but that alone is meaningless there has to be something more

[formal wagon]

basically when you are a davy your name is davy at least partially i believe

[grand flower]

I think it literally is just that they share an ancestral lineage

Imu discriminated against Roger the same way when he found laugh tale

Obscured his name and moved to extinguish his bloodline

Crimes of a certain level piss Imu off so bad he wipes you out completely, family and all

[ocean totem]

That was probably the Gorosei instead of Imu

Since Roger wasn't a Joyboy or Davy relation, they probably didn't care to address him as a problem personally

[thick mango]

Imu does seem like a personal petty greviance guy rather than a big picture guy

He's still holding onto stuff from 800 years ago

[ocean totem]

This is why staying disconnected from society is bad

[thick mango]

But I think that is good building blocks for a villian

[grand flower]

Finding the OP seems like Imu-level protocol to me

Imu must have been relieved Roger came back without it

Did Roger have the egg when he got to laugh tale? And after?

[ocean totem]

I'm sure it is, but Imu's never really made much comment on Roger, and the most they ever sent after him was Garp seemingly. It doesn't seem like he was pressuring the Gorosei to pursue more than they did imo

[ocean totem]

Indeed he did

[olive sigil]

This was way before the one piece

[sage temple]

Loki's Ancient Weapon eye powers activate once this egg hatches

[blazing depot]

Egg is just for aura

It’s aesthetic

[thick mango]

I prefer that I think

It's representative of one of many wacky adventures whose specific details aren't important

[olive sigil]

Not everything is about Loki

[trim lily]

it isnt

maybe if the egg was ever mentioned or acknowledged id think more of it, but it does just seem like set dressing

the roger pirates are a silly bunch

[ocean totem]

He had it after leaving Laugh Tale as well

[indigo yacht]

The egg was emergency food

[thick mango]

Whatr you gonna do when elbaf ends and loki is demoted to yamato level importance

[gritty shuttle]

what that mean

yamato served a purpose for an arc and when the arc ended his purpose did as well

[thick mango]

The new sidekick is gonna be johnny lode, the mayor of lodestar

[thick mango]

That's what I mean

[olive sigil]

Socrates will read Loki’s cover story and won’t bother reading the chapter

[thick mango]

I can clearly see the colun and other giant children cover story

[barren token]

One piece fans when a characters arc ends without them joining the straw hats

[gritty shuttle]

I dont think thats a bad thing tho

Characters we like dont have to be important all the time

[thick mango]

Neither do I but i haven't become an obsessive supporter of one of these arc scope side characters

[gritty shuttle]

Omg cunk I also got a bonsai tree

[barren token]

Omg orca i literally didn't ask

[hazy turret]

Sentoumaru cover story soon…..

[hazy turret]

Literally what is your problem why are you always a stick in the mud

[olive sigil]

I think we need to get sentomarg first

[barren token]

My father left was i was 27

[trim lily]

25 pages of sentomaru sailing on the ocean and slowly running out of rations

[hazy turret]

Holy unc

[hazy turret]

The Life of Sen

[trim lily]

i do like sento so id be down for it

[olive sigil]

Sorry lad

[olive sigil]

Better than Yamato. If he can go to new islands and meeting locals im happy

[trim lily]

isnt that the same as yamatos...

[blazing depot]

Wow just like Yasopp

[trim lily]

actually thatd be yamato's if oda was a good writer

[olive sigil]

Yamato wasn’t meeting new people or visiting new islands. Plus there was a lot of running. I don’t want to see how they sail to every island, I want to see what they do once they get there

[trim lily]

damned to an eternity of solitude on wano

[gritty shuttle]

LERS FUCKING GOOO

[olive sigil]

I hope stussy is with him

[olive sigil]

Neo mads 2 but it’s sentomaru new stussy, og stussy, queen and weevil teaming up

[blazing depot]

I need more queen

I love that guy

https://tenor.com/view/zoom-zoom-zoom-zoom-zoom-zoom-zoom-zoom-zoom-zoom-one-piece-gif-10845219337236769547

[olive sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/queen-onigashima-party-dance-dancing-gif-22304572

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/queen-one-piece-funk-zoom-mc-gif-22304676

[slow sequoia]

😭😭

[bleak plover]

[prisma yacht]

https://x.com/i/status/2000022954843779560

frances 🎣 (@t0birooo)

[turning tides AU] a library trip and the fickle nature of devil fruit research

X · Dec 14, 2025, 2:00 AM

[dense haven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/697995591921172532.gif?@everyone

[storm anvil]

[winter oasis]

This is not and will never be one piece

@urban kiln these posts are where I get closest to agreeing with you on fanart, when they make every OP character into a tumblr YA novel trope

[urban kiln]

LOL

yeah Im more restrictive about it but thats essentially the soul of why I feel that way

thats just not the characters I know

and while I can recognize the quality of a person's art, or the novelty of seeing that art in someone else's style

thats as far as it goes for me

like I would never put a fanart poster on my wall unless they capture the original style faithfully

but I can look at that art and be like "neat" at best

[analog smelt]

Dinooooo queeennnn

[winter oasis]

Life is more fun on the left

[blazing depot]

Maybe kindness is more fun

https://tenor.com/view/superman-superman-flying-tongue-meme-ai-gif-12285929760681474519

[winter oasis]

kindness melts your brain

[blazing depot]

No joke I’m practicing gratitude rn and my mental health has never been better man

[winter oasis]

humanism is a lie

[celest mauve]

they just don't like feel like the actual nami, vivi, sabo or law, I think I agree with juba

or is that koala?

[trim lily]

sabo looks pretty sabo

but i’d agree for the others

[blazing depot]

I thought that was Koby

[trim lily]

i thought top left was king lol

[tiny oak]

only bepo looks right

[celest mauve]

it's always so funny when vivi gets drawn as darker-skinned and then some people even say that it's more accurate
like I understand where they're coming from, but no she's as white as paper and a blue version of nami

[trim lily]

wait is that vivi

[winter oasis]

Imagine Sabo saying that lmao

I thought it was robin

[blazing depot]

https://tenor.com/view/carl-athf-aqua-teen-hunger-force-adult-swim-dont-matter-gif-18398614

It’s all fictional at the end of the day

[prisma idol]

Its vivi

[blazing depot]

There are more important issues IRL

[prisma idol]

There is an x on the arm

[trim lily]

oh wow

[prisma idol]

Its Vivi, Bepo, Law, Koala, Sabo

[winter oasis]

Ya so go solve them instead of bothering us in our silly chat room where we talk about things about talking about things

[celest mauve]

that's why I included the part where I've seen people even say it's more accurate, because it's one thing to headcanon vivi having darker skin and another to claim it's more accurate

[trim lily]

the lighting they chose makes the hair look so white

cute art though

[celest mauve]

vivi could actually meet sabo one day, being on the run from the WG and all

[blazing depot]

Who’s ready for the Vivi retrieval arc

[prisma idol]

She could yes, It depends on if Oda wants her to be around the revos more or the SHs again. The SHs rn is the more popular option

[trim lily]

law is iffy but sabo and vivi meeting is all but guaranteed

[alpine trench]

i dont like AUs but sometimes the art is good and i like encouraging art

[tidal onyx]

Vivi comin to Elbaf trust

[celest mauve]

what is she even gonna do with the SHs, have a teary reunion with the first six and then relegated to near-background status like half the crew?

[trim lily]

she still needs to kill kuma so she can get the paw fruit

[prisma idol]

Trueee

[dense haven]

people only resort to AU because they hate the canon universe (justifiably so since oda sucks)

[trim lily]

real and true

that’s why op academy is better than the main series

[prisma yacht]

its a good fanart

[celest mauve]

it's good fan art but we don't even get scenes like this with the supposed closest group of friends (the straw hats)

[alpine trench]

[prisma idol]

I cannot complain ive read too many AUs and Headcanon fics

[dense haven]

ofc you do

[alpine trench]

that scene is straight said to be AU

[prisma idol]

OOC shs

[alpine trench]

so i have no problem with it

@winter oasis https://x.com/katzufox/status/1999965557211414819?s=20 what do you think of this

k (@katzufox)

#trafalgarlaw

X · Dec 13, 2025, 10:12 PM

[dense haven]

bluko already read the entirety of op fanfics in ao3

[trim lily]

some are longer than the manga itself in terms of word count

oda should take notes

[prisma yacht]

i mean can u read?

[celest mauve]

I admire how attached tumblr-esque OP fans are to law

[dense haven]

law is truly a tumblr diva

[celest mauve]

yeah I can, I can also comment what I feel about it even if it says it's an AU

[alpine trench]

law is the most tumblr-core OP character

[trim lily]

he’s probably the most angsty of the main characters

[dense haven]

rocks is deviantart core

[celest mauve]

he's a good character, I wish I cared more about him though

[alpine trench]

he's the closest to the brooding "woe is me" past kind of character in OP that tumblr seemingly loves to overanalyse

kid is the outright edgelord, law is the "goth kid"

[celest mauve]

and I guess that's where the law x luffy thing comes from, emo x sunshine or whatever

[trim lily]

yeah

[tiny oak]

nami would be an instagram model

[trim lily]

god bless penny for that edit of xebec

[alpine trench]

naturally

its also a very tumblr ship

[celest mauve]

man I really don't like lawlu or any law ship for that matter

[shell scroll]

Why law ships are hot

[prisma yacht]

join the hararocks ship

[alpine trench]

idk much about shipping but OP is the last series i'd have to actually sit and ship

[celest mauve]

but I do respect the fans for managing to have fun with shipping a guy like him with whoever

[prisma yacht]

[tiny oak]

i can’t stand lawlu it makes no sense

[alpine trench]

as if i would do it outside OP but my point stands

[warm fossil]

not sure I like a singular one piece ship

it's all bad

[shell scroll]

I don’t actively ship but yeah other shows are more prompting

[celest mauve]

hehe I like the thousand sunny hehe

[tiny oak]

i kinda like frobin

[alpine trench]

yeah i dont like a single OP ship (i like actual ships made out of wood in OP)

[shell scroll]

Hate that one

[alpine trench]

thousand sunny is pretty dang cool

[shell scroll]

Going merry

[warm fossil]

merry clears I fear less is more

[celest mauve]

I used to like it more, but I lost interest at the same time as I lost interest in franky and robin as characters

[alpine trench]

sunny inherited the sould of merry and also is a superior vessel

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/view/lab-labe-zolu-zoroxluffy-one-piece-gif-18008154

[shell scroll]

Why didn’t nami get a df from going merry smh

[celest mauve]

dumb and dumber doesn't do it for me

[celest mauve]

because oda doesn't care about DFs respawning

[alpine trench]

both of these chucklefucks luffy and zoro are the least self aware creatures on the planet

[celest mauve]

unless it's that one time with the mera mera no mi

[shell scroll]

I said this again but df respawning to nearest fruit has like a cool-down

In smiley it was instant

Then well other cases it takes time for some to find it

Or u can straight up eat them

[alpine trench]

it took quite a bit of searching within the underworld for doffy to find it

its not easy to find devil fruits in the wild

[shell scroll]

But if you know someone dies with it

[alpine trench]

even moreso its not easy to find a respawned fruit

[shell scroll]

You know it’s nearby

[prisma idol]

Its tough

[shell scroll]

I’m basing this off smiley fruit

[alpine trench]

smiles are different

they're mass produced abominations

[shell scroll]

No not smiles

The axolot fruit smiley slime had

[dull zenith]

Ace dying in Marineford is proof that Sengoku didn’t like including fruits in the marine’s diet

[alpine trench]

smiley is the poison slime gas bomb yeah

[shell scroll]

He has a df

His df respawning is the only one we saw

[alpine trench]

we did

but that's an exception to the norm

[warm fossil]

pretty sure we saw that just to set up aces fruit in dressrosa

[rose rune]

can I just say, Ceasar's plan to keep smiley locked up, only to release it so that he could kill it to create gas was pretty stupid

[honest garden]

I thought it was fun, it means we got to see an axolotyl fruit

[rose rune]

yeah, but for a weapon's demonstration it was utterly useless

"ah, yes. we should buy an axolotl devil fruit user from ceasar and make it eat a giant candy. that'll show our enemies"

[dense haven]

in op world axolotyl shoot lasers from their eyes

platypus zoan when

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/platypus-cute-gif-24031896

[formal wagon]

ai

platapus dont look like that they're cyan and have hats

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/perry-the-platypus-hat-phineas-and-ferb-smirk-squinting-gif-21156768

[prisma yacht]

https://x.com/i/status/2000124778678792516
Oh boy

kusuro ミ (@kuxxuroo)

X · Dec 14, 2025, 8:44 AM

@muted hedge @ornate tartan

[prisma idol]

He's got some crazy eye shadow on

[prisma yacht]

thick eye lashes

they look so cute

[alpine trench]

was watching a youtube video about the colosseum in rome and what it used to be like, and apparently there used to be a huge statue of nero, called the colossus neroni, which was later reskinned to be a depiction of sol, "the sun god"

nero's statue becoming the statue of sol was a course of his popularity dying out, so the romans chose to retrofit that statue as being of sol

nero being the emperor was a figure by that point in the roman empire whose authority as an emperor superceded the gods (jupiter, saturn, mercury, etc) fading into obscurity after his death as sol took over that mantle as that statue came to be known

this tracks a lot with what we know of imu (attributing them to the nerona family) and of the gorosei being named after the roman gods, who replaced the greek gods (the ancient weapons), and joyboy and nika being the sun god whose resurgence is coming again in the form of luffy

[alpine trench]

additional information i learned that nero commissioned the statue and after his death, senators of rome did a "damnation of memory" which meant that anything or any symbol associated with him was erased or retrofitted into something else

[vale heath]

Any emperor Nero fans in chat

[final trench]

Thats kinda op

Platypi are poisonous

[vale heath]

No you can eat them just fine

Male platypus specifically are venomous, however

[final trench]

Ahh ok ok

[next yew]

So are snakes but you don’t see anyone dying to a snake zoan

[final trench]

Alr so apparently it isnt too dangerous to us but it could incapacitate a dog

Platypus fruit is the zoan killer? 👀

[vale heath]

There’s no such thing as a completely safe wild animal

[final trench]

What about a manatee

[next yew]

If zoans can have variants of legends like nika then i wonder if there’s a zoan for big foot and nessy

[vale heath]

Boat crash

[next yew]

What if there’s a godzilla zoan

[final trench]

I think bigfoot would just be a mink giant hybrid

https://tenor.com/view/bigfoot-griddy-cryptid-trailcam-gif-27530391

[vale heath]

Statues are valid zoans

Sengoku’s fruit is not “the Buddha fruit”. It is the Hito Hito model: Daibutsu. A daibutsu is a large golden statue of the Buddha. He can turn into the animal form of “a large golden statue of the Buddha”.

Mount Rushmore zoan

[final trench]

Welp, that explains alot

I wanna see more logias tho ngl

[next yew]

Well to be fair itd be kinda crazy to just have him turn into literal god

[vale heath]

The Buddha is not god and says as much himself in every literature about

[next yew]

Imagine a christian version of sengoku who deadass just turns into jesus christ

[vale heath]

Very common western misconception

[final trench]

Sadly i gotta wait on…green bull

[final trench]

No sea water weakness💔

[vale heath]

Buddhism is about finding the escape to the eternal cycle of rebirth.
The Buddha is the guy that figured out how.
That’s it.

[next yew]

So he’s basically the guy who escaped the matrix

[vale heath]

But without the bullet time

[next yew]

Can I get the matrix with NOTHING

[vale heath]

Here’s a secret:
Every great work of writing is actually fan fiction

[next yew]

I don’t think thats a secret

[vale heath]

Dante’s Inferno is Bible fanfiction. That wasn’t common belief, Dante Allegeri made all that up then said The Holy Spirit itself inspired him to do so.

[next yew]

People usually say good artists borrow, great artists steal

[next yew]

Wasn’t he also the first guy ever to write self insert fanfiction?

[vale heath]

No the Greeks were already doing that

[next yew]

Wait so the greeks were gay and made self insert fanfics?

Wow, times change but people don’t

[vale heath]

Lucian’s “A True Story” was a sci-fi featuring Lucian, as Lucian, as the protagonist

He claims to sailed to the moon to help fight in a space war

[next yew]

Wait

Is that Enel’s inspiration?

[vale heath]

Maybe?

Probably not though

[next yew]

Seems oddly specific enough to be

Is there literally any other people who sail to the moon and fight in a space war

[vale heath]

Kaguya

[next yew]

From love is war????

[vale heath]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tale_of_the_Bamboo_Cutter

(^also fan fiction)

[next yew]

Why is this so oddly common

What’s with people sailing to the moon and stopping wars 😭

[vale heath]

The moon has been seen by every person on the planet, there have been very few times with no wars at all, pretty girls are ubiquitous, and boats are very common

[next yew]

I agree with the pretty girls part

[vale heath]

There is a weird frequency to pretty girls being banished to the moon specifically, though

Chang-E was banished to the moon because she was forbidden from The Heavens and the Earth, Artemis is the moon, Kaguya went to the moon instead of staying on Earth, Avatar TLA spoilers girl something something turned into the moon

Between boyfriends and the moon girls pick the moon every time

[next yew]

Yknow

Gru was onto something

[vale heath]

Comparative mythology is very fun I recommend it

Try and find how many Boars of Destruction there are

You’d think a large fire breathing pig that ravages mountains would be a one off-thing.
It’s not.

[next yew]

Is it just finding what old people around the world were autistic about at the time?

[vale heath]

Autism pre-1900’s either got you killed for being weird or only had the outlet of artistic pursuit

[next yew]

Well yeah I know that I meant autistic as in obsessed with something

[vale heath]

I just don’t see how that relates to comparative mythology?
Mythologies are never made by one person, no matter how obsessive.

[next yew]

I don’t mean by one person

I meant a lot of people in the world being obsessed with the same thing

[vale heath]

Consider that there just were significantly less things 300 years ago, in general

And even less than that 3000 years ago

[next yew]

Said this in manga chat but it got ignored so ill send it here

Was on optwt and apparently not a lot of people in the fandom knew this so I came here to ask
Did you guys know WCI was supposed to be a thematic opposite of Wano’s ancient Japanese theme by being inspired by old western European cartoons, kids stories and concepts like a candy world (Alice in Wonderland, Hansel and Gretel), witches and mafias (stemming from Italy). It’s present in the character design also, with Bege being a really good example, his facial features and body shape are simplified to shapes for ease of expression, having a big nose and a sharp mouth shape makes him reminiscent of a flintstone character)

[grand flower]

I didn’t know it meant to contrast Wano specifically

[next yew]

No that was just me bullshitting

But there’s genuinely a point to be made there

[frail kindle]

at least you're honest about that

[next yew]

Since both are inspired by culture of two opposing sides of the earth

The west and the east

And there’s a lot in the manga to suggest wano and wci are supposed to be mirrors

[dense haven]

arsal is that you?

[next yew]

Who?

[grand flower]

Spice when he sees someone thinking critically

[grand flower]

I do really like how big mom is a combination of the eastern baba archetype and wicked witch of the west archetype

[pine ridge]

wci has a ton of food, wano has very little food

[final trench]

They got food now tho

[next yew]

Yeah like how I have a lot of friends and you have none

[pine ridge]

true

[next yew]

She’s also extremely hungry

Which a lot of western fairy tales seem to like for some reason

[grand flower]

Lololol

[grand flower]

Might reflect food shortages from the times they came from

[next yew]

To be fair Japan also had a hungry period and all they wrote about was monsters stealing your genitals

[grand flower]

That’s a certain type of hunger

[dark nymph]

!animo

[tropic nova]

Next episode comes out on <t:1765728000:F> <t:1765728000:R> (time zone adjusted)

[vale heath]

The Final Egghead

Hggeead

[urban lodge]

Joyboy haki today

[tranquil blade]

Let's see what Dorry and Brogy say about it

[urban lodge]

Oh no...

[tranquil blade]

Will Toei be good or will Toei be evil

[muted hedge]

sick!

[urban lodge]

"That's almost half as powerful as red-hair's!"

[tranquil blade]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/850784215774789655/1448773333251391689/IMG_0459.gif

My live reaction

It's not even like it'll be canon or anything but I'm gonna have to hear people using it for their agendas 💔

[ornate tartan]

😎

[prisma yacht]

😂😂

[vale heath]

Whitebeard but he actually has a beard

[grand flower]

Pay attention to the title of tjis episode @tranquil blade @urban lodge

[dense haven]

that just santa

[azure spindle]

Chad santa

[vale heath]

Santa zoan?

Could a Santa zoan beat Kaido

Kaido is in the naughty list, definitely

[azure spindle]

Kaido got lava in his stocking

[craggy vapor]

a mustache is an over the lip beard

[grand flower]

Santa powerscales crazy

Covers the entire planet in one night

[tranquil blade]

What you mean

[tranquil blade]

Oh yeah we had a discussion about this

Santa zoan would be like a top 3 fruit

[grand flower]

Look what they called it

[tranquil blade]

Where do I find that information

nvm

[craggy vapor]

what would that fruit even do? Hide explosives in gift boxes?

[prisma idol]

Why are we paying attention

[dense haven]

santa can deliver all gifts in a single night that implies he can travel near the speed of light

[urban lodge]

Oh

[tranquil blade]

"Upheaval of an era! The color of the supreme king that leads Luffy"

[prisma idol]

Its just about what happens in the episode

[dense haven]

or maybe thats a reindeer feat

[vale heath]

Yeah Santa has Kizaru-speed at minimum

[prisma idol]

Haki knot episode

[tranquil blade]

Yeah I know

[urban lodge]

I think Shuron means it's Luffy's haki guiding himself

[tranquil blade]

I know what Shuron is saying

[prisma idol]

Sorry but I dont get how the title implies that at all

[craggy vapor]

Even with light speed, it’s physically impossible to deliver gifts to all homes in 24 hours

[tranquil blade]

Does a santa zoan user one-shot someone if they're on the naughty list

[vale heath]

Yes but they have to check that they are twice before hand

Which is an opening

[dense haven]

also if we treat the average gift weight as 500g it means he can carry at least 4 billion kilograms alone

thats an insane feat

a punch from santa would reduce you to atoms

[vale heath]

I think the bag is a separate dimension actually

We got door-mension and mirror world

The bag goes to a gift dimension, so Santa’s only carrying around a bag that weighs as much as a big burlap bag

[tranquil blade]

and Caribou's pocket dimension and the abyss

There's a few separate dimensions cause by devil fruits in one piece

[vale heath]

The real question is can Santa stuff someone into the gift sack

Or does it have to be gifts

Can things even go into it, or is it exit-only and it’s just perpetually full of gifts

[tranquil blade]

Is it infinitely many gifts or is it just an absurdly large number

[grand flower]

https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-fortnite-dance-family-guy-peter-griffin-bird-is-the-word-gif-9164882751492605617

[tranquil blade]

Why didnt they make Peter fat, L Fortnite W Speed

[vale heath]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/738580480437387264/1317281006830751806/IMG_1348.png?ex=693ff949&is=693ea7c9&hm=5f5a8454b5e79624c9fafd8a148d2243db93660d1e19a64804a8f912f7aeab4d&

[grand flower]

Supervillain who wants to brain rot the city so they can be his primary source of amusement

[pseudo gulch]

It's almost chapter week

[grand flower]

No it’s not johto

[vale heath]

Chapter in 7 days

[pseudo gulch]

It's Sunday evening

[vale heath]

What if Loki has the Santa zoan but he’s really confused about it and thinks it’s Krampus instead

[pseudo gulch]

More afternoon than evening tbf

[pseudo gulch]

We get a special additional chapter on Christmas where Oda reveals this

[vale heath]

Just a quick 3 page

Chapter 1169-S

(The S is for Santa)

[tranquil blade]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-disappointed-mythic-stream-fortnite-gif-6136848449896824636

[hot cairn]

it’s his time travel agenda

[prisma idol]

I know that now but I dont get how it the title is implying the haki is luffy's

[hot cairn]

it doesn’t

[vale heath]

Shuron saw the words “haki”, Luffy”, and “joy boy” in the same sentence and wants there to be a connection, therefore they see a connection where one doesn’t actually exist

It’s easy to find evidence for stuff if you’re looking for it to be there.

[dense haven]

numerologists hate that one trick

[alpine trench]

lmfao

[final trench]

The doffy and imu connection kinda scary man idk

https://tenor.com/view/unsrscandidate-shai-sga-aura-gif-2276584723606080630

[proud pivot]

Lets goo joyboy HAKI!!!!!!!

[tawny panther]

Imu falling to their knees screaming , shanking , huffing & puffing is hilarious 😂😂

[vale heath]

Nusjuro trying to cut it

[tawny panther]

Rocks was right lol Imu really been terrified for centuries over dead people

[shell scroll]

She’s scared

[remote maple]

shiver me timbers

[iron oriole]

Funny how Rocks knows Joyboy but didn't know Nika

[alpine trench]

Isn’t it obvious why

[iron oriole]

Yeah he big dumb

[upbeat yarrow]

but wasnt joyboy nika?

[alpine trench]

Rocks as a part of the Davy clan would obviously know about Imu and Joyboy

[iron oriole]

Previous Nika fruit user yeah

[alpine trench]

Nika is a concept that’s only known to Kuma as an ancestral story and later Vegapunk through researching the records of the devil fruits

[urban lodge]

And a bunch of random slaves

[iron oriole]

Elbaf?

[urban lodge]

And yeah an entire nation

[alpine trench]

Oh yeah the giants too

[iron oriole]

And countless slaves

[alpine trench]

But their idea of Nika is different

[iron oriole]

Not really

[alpine trench]

Still, no one has made the connection in the world

[iron oriole]

The Giants just have multiple versions of what is Nika

Destroyer/Liberator etc

[alpine trench]

Yeah, besides maybe Vegapunk who doesn’t even allude to Nika while talking about Joyboy’s ability to fight free with rubber powers, we don’t know anyone else who has made the connection between Joyboy and Nika in that way

[upbeat yarrow]

i was thinking, could you tie that in with how luffy will be the destroyer of fishman island?

[alpine trench]

https://fixupx.com/pewpiece/status/2000214144251724007?s=46 Vincent Chansard animated the haki knot

Pew (@pewpiece)

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[dense haven]

luffy destroys a lot of shit

[upbeat yarrow]

that flows with the narrative of nika being a destroyer and liberator

[alpine trench]

Chansard is a different beast

Holy fuck

[urban lodge]

Luffy's expression is so good

[dense haven]

joyboy is HIM

wth they showed doll resisting for a second

fake news

[final trench]

They made luffys eye a sun

Holy peak

[storm anvil]

Holy

https://tenor.com/view/one-peak-one-piece-one-piece-cry-its-so-peak-gif-13413926760013023520

[alpine trench]

https://fixupx.com/pookiepiece/status/2000210407516946613?s=46

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[vale heath]

Can we ID that guy in here as Shamrock now?

[thick mango]

Yes if this isn't shamrock oda is a hack

[upbeat yarrow]

absolutely

[thick mango]

I'll be so bummed if it's even more important I haven't even revealed himself man

[stone terrace]

Damn i was hoping for more

[craggy vapor]

no. He has Mr. 1 like lips

[thin quest]

it's definitely Shamrock

[thick mango]

Time is up for more haven't even revealed people. Converge to the end with what ya got

[proud pivot]

bro sounds like an emergency alarm. I am crine bro 😭😭😭

[glass veldt]

Kinda sounds like the cod zombie yell

[proud pivot]

"JoYBoY"

[bleak plover]

"Fetch me their souls" ass scream.

[proud pivot]

Ngl i'd tweak tf out too if my archnemesis gave me a haki backshot after fucking 800 years lol

[glass veldt]

IMU voice is so inconsistent and full of filters and effects

No real way to get a good feel for their voice

The dub Is somewhat less filters but yeah

[proud pivot]

its a mix of multiple voice

[bleak plover]

That'll be the way for a while, until Oda confirms Imu's gender.

[craggy vapor]

Toei staff don’t know Imu’s gender

[glass veldt]

4 real IMU sounds like the cod zombie yell or is it just me

[proud pivot]

crazy, cuz some of the higher staff knows what one piece is

[glass veldt]

It's a fidget spinner

[craggy vapor]

I doub’t that

[glass veldt]

Honestly you think imu voice is like that or has the proper voice actor

Or is it a placeholder and not their voice in Universe

[thick mango]

I would imagine toei staff is only told what they need to know and that's it

[craggy vapor]

this

[thick mango]

That's why I'm skeptical of any alleged anime specific hints

[glass veldt]

I don't know if imu voice is intentional or if the voice is meant to be unclear hence it' sounding very rough and distorted at times and others times very soft and almost gentle etc

All over the place

[proud pivot]

sandman confirmed it, i don't have the ss rn

some of the editors and the upper echelon of toei knows it

[cold steppe]

Would be cool if Imu is voiced by his actual official voice actor

Just not revealed yet

[craggy vapor]

if it was the case, the nature of the OP would have been spoiled long long ago on the internet

[thick mango]

Even if high level toei people did know late game secrets I don't think they'd have the ability/authority to insert their own hints that weren't present in the manga

[bleak plover]

Only very high ranking staff know this, alongside editors. It is also more than likely there are setups so that even if someone was to leak it, it'd be easily known who was it.

So it's pretty tightly guarded. I'm sure these people do not provide input in creative direction and decisions taking place in the anime, but Oda might authorise/give hints for Toei's staff.

[craggy vapor]

eh, not really? Just make a throwaway account at home with a vpn and post it on reddit

[bleak plover]

An example is Sukiyaki/Tenguyama.

[glass veldt]

Personally idk why they would not reveal it unless its some very special person they want to be a suprise

[upbeat yarrow]

they probably signed an NDA or a blood contract before being told, the consequences of spoiling it would be akin to a death wish

[glass veldt]

idk why imus voice would be kept a "secret" unless the voice itself is somewhat of a suprise or imporant to the plot

[gloomy tree]

i mean they made it pretty clear that Oda and his staff had no input ont he anime so far, but they are trying to work with them now coming next year

[glass veldt]

unless oda silhoute obsession isn ow moving to voices

[upbeat yarrow]

no matter how much clout you get, its not worth spoiling

[glass veldt]

Of course it migh be that imu is just meant to sound weird because Imu is not a human or proper human anymore

[cold steppe]

Yeah they're probably waiting for the manga reveal

[glass veldt]

depends on what oda told them when they asked about info for voice direction

[bleak plover]

Okay, lemme give you an example:

• Oda tells Alice the One Piece is a soccer ball.
• Oda tells Bob the One Piece is a toy hammer.
• Oda tells Carl the One Piece is a Nerf gun.

The One Piece is leaked as a Nerf gun.

Who was it?

[glass veldt]

either its just placeholder and he told them to "make it weird and shit" or oda has told them what is needed and chose na fitting voice actor but still wants the voice to be unclear and secret because...yeah i dont know

its a bit frustratin honestly but ehh maybe imu just sounds weird cause they are a demon or weird thing

[craggy vapor]

why would Oda do that in the first place?

[olive sigil]

It was you

[glass veldt]

for fun

[bleak plover]

Because it's the work of his life??????

[craggy vapor]

to lie to other people?

[bleak plover]

Canary traps have been used since society became a thing.

[glass veldt]

personally i dont get why oda would tell anyone personally

Theres n oreal need to risk it getting out. Its his lifes work that ahs like 20 years of build up

im sure he PROBABLY has it written down somewhere in case he dies or something as i can oda not being the kind of guy that wants his fans to nevr know in case he dies

but otherwise i dont see why anyone else but himself has to know

[bleak plover]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-disgust-disgusted-surprise-surprised-gif-18169758631476194546

[dense haven]

oda is a liar why would anyone trust him

[glass veldt]

do you think Imu Va is already chosen or the current va is a secret because it is a "placeholder" so to speak?

[craggy vapor]

he can make up anything he wants

[gloomy tree]

so are you so why would we trust you, Oda is probably not a liar

[olive sigil]

His family probably does

[dense haven]

I lie for the love of the game oda does it for money

[upbeat yarrow]

im in ranked lying

[craggy vapor]

if Oda dies, it will activate a stream to the internet that reveals the One Piece

[gloomy tree]

there is people in Odas editorial staff who didnt want to know but afaik they are obligated

[gloomy tree]

considering you are a liar this might be a lie as well

[upbeat yarrow]

those people arent allowed to drink alcohol most likely, among other things

[thick mango]

The left door is guarded by someone who always lies for fun. The right door is guarded by someone who sometimes lies for money

[prisma idol]

I assume you mean are obligated to know what the OP is

[gloomy tree]

yeah

[prisma idol]

I would assume that is because otherwise they couldn't give advice on where to guide the story and story beats without knowing where he plans to end up

[gloomy tree]

but i could be wrong about that

[craggy vapor]

The OP is probably something that makes so much sense that we ask ourselves why didn’t think of that before.

[final trench]

Its multiple things imo

[urban lodge]

Joyboy haki is cool and all but do the credits mention who voices Gunko

[fluid cedar]

buggy is the one piece

[olive sigil]

His editors know when they’re working on the manga but when they leave they get their minds erased

[upbeat yarrow]

they get exiled to a ranch in north korea so they never get found or kidnapped

[prisma idol]

Why would it 😭

[urban lodge]

She is or at least was Imu's attendant

[final trench]

I mean it probably will be

We know whos shams va is now

Might aswell give us gunkos

[prisma idol]

We dont know if that is gunko though, she should be a HK at this point and we only know for sure she was the attendant back 50+ years ago

[urban lodge]

Yeah it could be someone else

[prisma idol]

Also shamrock can still change

[tranquil blade]

What if Imu has a rotation of attendants

[prisma idol]

VAs for promotional stuff arent always the same as the actual VAs later on

[tranquil blade]

Shamrock I assume will stay the same

[final trench]

Ah

[tranquil blade]

Might be too good of a voice actor to miss up on for Shamrock

[prisma idol]

Im just saying dont be surprised if it does change

[tranquil blade]

but depends on scheduling too

[urban lodge]

It would be very funny if it changed

[tranquil blade]

twitter will whine about it if it does change

[craggy vapor]

Shanks vs Shamrock, good brother vs bad brother. Bad brother becomes good, makes out with good brother and sacrifices himself to save his good brother from evil.

[prisma idol]

I mean for example in One piece, the OG voices for Luffy and the SHs are different from the promotional OVA

[latent hamlet]

Random thought
Kuzan also trained with the battleship bags
Why doesnt kuzan have his own galaxy impact

Ice Impact when

[prisma yacht]

Yayayay it's time for haki knot ep

[urban lodge]

Lmao the anime showing Judge and Caesar fighting with no context

[sage temple]

Lets see the yellow Haki theory

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/my-honest-reaction-gif-10673976111485284091

[final trench]

Nika yellow haki?

[hybrid hazel]

I think next chapter will be peak though

[thin quest]

Joyboy's

each person tends to have a specific color for their CoC

Luffy is red

Kaido purple

Zoro green

makes we wonder what Sanji's will be