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yea, I am saying he intended for Usopp's nationality to be South Africa clearly, not that he is from the entire continent. He knew that much.
to europe* my bad
Actually, a lot of people I know have a tendency to say something akin to "I'm going to the south" which is a general term for... well any warm countries by the sea south of norway
You guys keep saying Japanese people do this but what is the proof besides someone told arsal
It’s ocam’s razor or mental gymnastics
😭😭😭
In America, if I say "I'm going to the South," it would mean I'm going to the southern part of the United States.
but not South America
i would say "i'm going to south america" or a country there
To be fair, the US is pretty big
Our country is fat and so are our people.
God bless America
I'm not saying they do or dont but that just because people refer to south africa in a specific way in english doesn't mean it's true for every other language
🫡
hey again, I didnt say I believe it either lol
I can feel the lard seeping into my body as I imagine what the US is like
But it’s not just true for English. It’s true for other languages too, so either Japan is an exception or it’s just not true
its like the Oda revived Pell cause of 9/11 thing, a rumor thats been going around in the fanbase without any sort of verification
Does your country have much obesity? We have quite a lot of it over in the states.
We have some obviously, but I don't know where we rank on the charts
hell, Thigh, I can fatten you up in one week with enough restaurant visits in California.
5 nights at shophochos
Thigh, do you have Taco Bell?
Good luck. I've had the same weight since I turned 20
Eww
Nope
Good. Your intestines need a workout. I'll make sure you get some.
It’s not a rumor, this is the implication when you are able to name countries for every other character in the story, except for the character that you want to say is black is just “from Africa”
i had not one but two doritos locos tacos yesterday and they wereGOOD
It'll make my colon sparkly clean
Yeah it’s just Oda was ignorant about this back then ez
Icon just had enough sodium for 5 adult men for one week.
yes that's the whole argument. some countries just have some unusual nicknames for things that other languages dont
And I’m calling bullshit on that being the case in this instance
Yeah that’s just coping
Btw. The US is number 10 on the obesity chart while norway is 93
no I was talking about "Japanese people say Africa instead of South Africa" thing, I dont think its true but people have been saying it and Oda does kinda reinforce it with that statement I showed you
Damn that's a huge difference! Also, why are we only 10??? We should be number 1 baby!
I was trying to find the sodium content, but I only got the calories.
for example in finland a common way to refer to the US as a country is what would literally translate to "the yanks". I've never heard it used anywhere else
Wait. I made a mistakw, that was only males
whats the unhealthiest norwegian dish
You don’t think it’s true but you think Oda is proving that it is?
what if you chose both sexes?
you can hear the weight gain calling to you
its true for Oda atleast
I just thought it was heresy
which is what this is about
Do Aussies and Brit’s not call Americans “yanks” too
he does just say America for Franky too
US is number 19, Norway 124
You are the only one that has reached that conclusion
not the people, the country
not like he goes all UNITED STATES OF AMERICA for him
the gap widened. still, we should be the fattest. I'm disappointed in my country.
Because the US has branded itself as “America”
South Africans don’t do that
Humm.... I dunno tbh. Probably the rib dish some people have for christmas
South Africa doesn’t call itself Africa 😭
we're 13 by BMI. we need to up those numbers!
man what is this argument 😭
like if I said I was going to america I could say I'm going to the yanks
This literally just means Oda is incredibly ignorant to call SA just africa
I know, but he is using brief names for all of the countries there, that was the point. He probably thought thats a thing with Africa too, thats all
These numbers tho....
I got recommended a video on nauru just today lol
75% obese holy FUCK
Fat Tonganians
Yeah that means he’s ignorant? Which circles back to the original point
It’s just coping
Gyms are banned in Tonga
I get a crazing for Taco Bell every once in a while
is walking also banned?
200 dollar fine
bro do they just shove weight gainers into every dish?
well it was midnight so i didnt have many options
thats usually how it happens
Actually saw a really interesting documentary about it. Apparently it's the US' fault
Is Tonga in Africa,
oh wait these are separated by financial groups. the plot thickens
I hope if I ever visit Norway or Iceland I get to eat the good stuff lol
of course it is
lul same
But we've got Waffle House down here
Which is infinitely better
Isn’t the issue with Tonga that a bunch of companies or factories opened in their country, fucking with their source of food and just replacing it with unhealthy food
not necessarily, because it means he still actually intends for Usopp to be South African and not vaguely African.
You sell them fatty scraps no one wants for cheap, and they love it
So it'll be Waffle House 97/100 whenever I get late night munchies
oh, what, ew.
It means that Oda associates “African” with just South Africa
Oda is racist. Convo over.
It’s not really uncommon for first world counties to disregard geography of Africa
Literally
unless theyre splitting it up to exploit
He knows the distinction, at worst he just used a wrong term lmao
I don't remember the name of the documentary, but you should check it out if you happen to come across it
They just ask google then
i'm scared
Don't be. You can trust thighbreaker
I would not be surprised if Oda could only name like 4 African countries on the spot though lol

i bet i can't even name 4
Egypt, South Africa, Somalia, and I don't have a particular candidate for the 4th
im convinced he only knows about somalia because of pirates 😭
And it’s: South Africa, Egypt, Somalia, and Nigeria
again, this goes back to my point, Americans are projecting
I remember I read something about how he was going to visit the gorillas in the Ugandan Mountains or something. So maybe that
Algeria Morocco Egypt Sudan
South Africa is a freebie
Boom
egypt too
🔥🔥🔥
You could I'm sure lol
okay I give up
Not that good at it either
thats 25 more than Oda though so hey
ay thats the 5th one I was thinking of
he knows atleast 5
man my brain started lagging
My brain collapsed after 17, but in my defense, the names are different in norwegian, so I had to try to figure out what some of the english names were by randomly trying stuff
not bad
I got 74% 
Yeah, bruh, I'm from Chad, Africa. No big deal. 
How can you NOT get Seychelles
Sudan and South Sudan are free guesses
Maybe if I thought harder
Best flag 🇸🇨
I don't know how I Just forgot about them lol
I've actually heard of virtually all of these countries, but no way could I remember them off the top of my head.
Seychelles should've been an easy one
The Sudanese will NOT be happy
Yeah
It's greyed out lol
based
name western sahras form of government rn
no one was getting this one. I've never heard of this place.
Isn't that a disputed territory
No
Lol. I did the same
I could remember some of the names but I didnt get the spelling right lmao, like Mauritania
You name it icon
I should've rephrased. It is not an easy one, it's just one of the easier islands to guess lol
Like more well-known than the others
I kept going “CONGO CONGO CONGO”
Yeah I have to get it to autocorrect for some of them or I would've got them wrong
yea then I thought oh right, DRC
one being the drc and the other being the rc is real funny right there
DRC is the one people usually remember
I got the republic of congo, but the other one I had to type all kinds of random shit until I gave up.
im mad at myself for forgetting the southern countries
Because stuff actually happens there lol
Fr
I want to see an American tackle this continent
I somehow forgot namibia and bots as well
I felt like a fool forgetting Senegal
😭😭😭
I've heard of Senegal before, but had no idea it was a country in Africa.
It's actually the capital of sweden
theres some lore
I also want to see an American tackle Europe.
I have
I think I remember you mentioning this before
R/op lore going strong
lowkey i had to google how to spell this one 😭
Man, we Americans are so uneducated on geography it's hilarious. or maybe it's just me.
it is
He’s just a nerd
it's an education thing lol
I think it’s main character syndrome idk
Quick! Where's Georgia?
HA! I know this one! The country or the state?
People dog us about it but I'd bet anything we're better at it than the vast majority of places lol. I feel like the only people that have better geographic knowledge than Americans are Europeans lol
i mean its really just trivia knowledge
The state...
howeve...um, I only learned there was a non-US George in the past ten years........
know an American who couldn't find Argentina on a map and the rest of the server was like "are u deadass"
beating the stupid american allegations
is knowing where botswana is ever going to help you in life
With that amount of money I hope you are 😭
by being a very autistic child
no, unless youre a diplomat lol
I can point in its general direction. Man, I'm starting to question if I know my own country.
Eeeehehheheh
The smartest American, ladies and gentlemen.
||i knew equatorial guinea had a "guinea" and a direction but i couldn't for the life of me remember what it was||
Using one of the ones you didn’t get as an example huh
I needed autocorrect for that one
From now on, when I can't remember something, I'm gonna say "Oh, sorry, man. I'm just not autistic enough to know all this."
yeah actually

knowing every country location is useless knowledge because you'll never be actually using it and when you need you can just google it
Yeah. When you win at a bar quiz
It makes you aware of the vastness of the world
Well, shit, now I'm gonna run for President just so I can start random wars in all these countries and makes use of that uselesss knowledge.
when u meet a guy from botswana
So many people think only their tiny city exists
I might do worse on a South American quiz I’m ngl
me and my friends went to one of those and we did so bad that we tried to sneak out
😅
I won a dinner at a restaurant once at a bar quiz. The topic was food
23? But there’s literally only 3
You Wolof?
well my city is huge
no...
as is your god given right
theres Jamaica, Haiti, Cuba, El Salvador, Panama, etc etc
Their huge city 😎
nope
Mandinka?
i'm surprised you knew more than california, florida, new york, and texas.
Quick, did you know we have a North and South Dakota and that no one gives a shit about them?
Toucouleur
did you know ohio is a real place
oh no I meant the countries not the states, I couldnt name most states lmao
If you're not then the only other guess I have is Serer because those are the three I namely know in Senegal
Lies
Oh I do know of them
ohio goes eye moss (good morning in Japanese)
I could crush a us map quiz for sure
You should visit the Bible Belt. The deep, deep south. Into the woods. You're gonna "love" it there.
i know all 50 states by name for sure, shapes ehhhh but i could process of elimination it out
What about capitals
I used to have every state and its capital memorized. In 5th grade.
the u.s is lightwork except for the east coast
We also have a bible belt
oh nvm, only missed Suriname
Incredible. How crazy are they?
Damn 5th?? We did in 7th
literally useless for you
Dont schools usually ask that
12?
I did the same
tell your teachers stop dickriding the usa
12 yeah
I grew up in the US bruh
???????
From like 2nd to 10th grade
I did it in 6th instead of 7th but I suppose it kinda doesnt matter
brazil and argentina are like most of the map
Lots of different kinds of churches and cults. A lot od american flags, cars and bald eagle stuff. It's kind of absurd traveling there
Thanks to a song, I think I used to have all countries and their capitals in South America memorized. But I've also forgotten that.
This well-known Rokaya lore
No one cares about state capitals
Have you not heard me speaking
no
chile is easy because hes just a longboi
Sigh
?????
Oh wtf this sounds horrendously awesome. I'm sorry you took the worst from our culture.
Rokaya why do you hate me

I didnt even like make a joke
I get mad when I get bested by a 67
67
Do I look stupid to you
No...
Link pls
it's like a 5-6 hour drive south from where I live, truly fascinating stuff
wtf is a Maryland
I actually got most of it
oh it does exist
I actually did this earlier and only got half
8/12 for south america im cooked
I have heard of most od these states but I couldn't recall 90% of them while doing this lol
I’m not sharing this nvm
BRO
I kept going “Machu Picchu” over and over
Peru, Bolivia, and Ecuador im sorry
This is pretty impressive
That's very impressive yeah
Considering Arsal has no reason to know that many states lol
Now do Canadian states
You never lived in America did you Arsal?
i got a 58% on the south america quiz im washed
Same…
well wrestling, kinda
but yea, never lived in america
UM don’t you mean the United States of america??
you guys should try asia
Im gonna die
lmao
Oh hell nahhhh send link
That might be the hardest one
I’m gonna type in Japan 49 times
thats gotta be the hardest one yeah
I forgot || guyana|| on the south america one 😔
asia will def go better (ill get like a 30%)
got the rest though
: <
8/13 on canada ill take
"haha ur a gay" - every american kid when first seeing Uruguay
Me in 5th grade
Unironically
||I'm actually pissed I didn't remember Venezuela||
It boarders Colombia
Well, you're all better than Oda at least.
Aye you actually did pretty good!
It's funny because I'm looking at a country and I can remember it's flag
Kind of
But not it's name lol
Yep gonna go ahead and throw in the towel
Got everything but ||baharin and brunei|| for the Asia one
hardest for me is probably oceania and africa

I know I was missing a -stan but just couldn't remember the name lol
I kinda forgot Turkey isnt considered part of Europe
Yeah
I mean like I know why but it's also right there
the boundary between asia and europe is weird
Part of it's in there
the mongols thought the same
Davy’s will lives on 
turkeys always been more middle east to me than europe
but hey i dont decide these things
i always thought georgia was in Europe but i guess it isn't
The -stans fucked me uppp
Same percentage
Also the little islands 💔
chapter out yet
world map. I'm pretty proud of this one
I’m ngl I had no idea the Maldives was there
I thought Maldives was in Africa
I guessed it on the Africa quiz lol
And just forgot to guess it on this one
is tibet not a country??
they be malding
you guys are still talking about maps and geography
I thought it was the Mediterranean but guess I was thinking of Malta
Oh wtf
It's part of nepal
SIX SEVEN PERCENT
If Oda gave us a real one piece map
Since when
We would be doing that
It is part of china
this will never happen
I just remember it being part of Nepal. And I thought it was part of some others but I couldn't remember
didnt china yoink tibet
damn you even got those tiny islands near Australia 😭
It may've
I used to play a lot of the pin version on seterra
It should be the other way around. I am nipplese 
he'll die before he ever does something like that
Why
because he hates us
Let Nami cook
Maybe Togashi will make a HxH world map one day,,,
has he not shown it several times lol
Yeah but like
I am pretty sure there's a map for hxh
Is it the actual whole thing
Maybe 
Which one are those Muslim ufc guys from
Dagaestan
Woahhh
Which is part of Russia
Wtf
Russia got some -stans too but that's the only one I remember lol
I kept typing in variants of that thinking it was a country 💔
I feel like Oda doesnt want us to guess which islands we could go next and that's why he hasnt done a full OP map
I've decided that doing these after 12pm is not a good idea. I should have gotten way more
Anytime we don’t like something in one piece it’s important to remember things could be much worse
it's so sad man, it's my favorite manga after OP and sadly it'll never end
how do you forget kazakhstan
Dont worry guys I'll finish HxH for Togashi
my brain short fused after a few stans
Still better than what I'd expect out of most people lol
okay thanks
Timor-Leste must be East-Timor
Did u see when someone called Vira a shithole earlier
it is
Ay yo??
whats their address
should've guessed that
That has to be charged
watch how you talk about peakra newgen. That's the island that's gonna save one piece.
what happens when the story ends and we dont see Vira at all
We will
proof?
Tf is vira
what happens when the sky falls
Island mentioned pretimeskip
We will stand tall and face it all
kinda like an oc but an island
Noland visited it, and it had a revolt recently
a random island that was mentioned in road to laughtale and people started to think we were going there because of it
If yall think oda remembers vira then yall are wild
the next arc
vira is the rev arc
and apparently the revolt was cause by the RA
Only hope of seeing it or another mention is uroge
AND the nami flashback arc
virans eat pet dogs and cats
AND weevil something
Just trust me
well if they eat them they probably taste great
this started as a bit and now mailbox genuienly believes it
excuse me. sir? SIR?
what is Vira?
according to you OP can end in 3 years so no
I dont trust you
Me with Hiriluk burn scar man
☹️
Respect Rokaya Respect Speed 💔
only respect power
Nah disrespect rok 24/7
speed is for the weak
lmao what
you started out as a bit and now you're real. Think abotu that
It's a long story
Got anything better to do on break week?
please tell us cause that's wild
i thought it was break month?
Break month so Egghead ends in January
Mailbox said something about how a lot of theories cant be claimed by anyone because they're not specific enough, so I said as a bit Hiriluk is the burn scar man and he'll teach Chopper to awaken CoC
and then I kinda thought well
Everyone smart knows burn scar is Bluejam
arsal literally can't lie its not in arsal's programming
Well let's think about how Hiriluk supposedly "died"
You can’t spell arsal without liar and feet
SOMEONE PIN THIS RIGHT NOW
The explosion could have injured and possibly burned him severely but we never saw his body
No
I actually dont know if its a bit or not anymorwe
I kinda want it to be real
You lied so long you started believing it
Look he's already Xebec, we don't have to do a 2nd fakeout for Hiriluk
That's even worse than him being the burn scar man
Lmao
so blackbeard and chopper are brothers
Hiruluk had illness, poison mushroom, and explosion. That man did a death hat trick
People have survived worse
In flashbacks?
Never knew you were so delulu Avery
Saul kinda ig but giant constitution IS nuts
Also look I'm not even opposed to Vira as an arc I was just extremely baffled at what Illma was trying to say when they said "everything in Elbaf could have happened anywhere, like Vira, which was always happening and not necessarily Elbaf"
Sometimes you have to stick by a take regardless of likelihood
Sometimes you just have to commit to it
also are you guys still doing maps, I was gonna do Europe smh
backing down from a take is the worst thing you can do
I'll do it anyways I guess
besides like murder or something
Nah I do humans like a normal person
Nerd
This reminds me of the insane shit I was seeing being said about Miss Piggy last night
Lmao
I am actually quite good at it because of that smh
????????????????????????????????????????????
It was Wombat
Well mostly good, I think I'd probably not do too well at Europe but I was gonna test that
Lol
Did he say This jit cracks...
Actually don't answer
Its fine I get the idea
...
Look man you didnt see what I saw
What does jit mean
Its like Floridian slang for a younger person
No I'm not from Florida, clearing that up before my reputation is forever tarnished
isnt Vira also not in the new world?
like aren’t we far from it
Pretty sure it's in Paradise
its not mentioned I thought
We dont know tho but like I feel that it is
yeah
Why does Vira even matter now
Aren’t the revolutionaries based on Kambakka?
If no one is sending links I’m not doing it
I think it is slightly more important than what it is presented as, but not like ultra important like people think it is
When are we watching tv
?????
I forgot alr
maybe its like a port town that the SHs visit before Laugh Tale, or Lodestar or something like that
2-3 hours
They can do a one piece movie set in vira
fuck dat we skippin vira forever
like is it a visit worth it for the crew?
Road to Laugh Tale tricked yall into thinking Vira was important
Oda didn’t even write that shit, his editors did
Vira is editor headcanon
pretty good i'd say
not necessarily
exactly
but it can be significant, like it could potentially be Noland's hometown or something, it could be the 2nd last official Grandline island, it could be that island that the Roger Pirates were last seen at before Laugh Tale
its likely not noland's hometown because it was just a visit on one of his expeditions
oh, I thought he set sail from it because he lived there
and we know where noland is from
right, Vira isnt in North Blue
he is from the Lvneel kingdom
I guess he was just visiting then, cross that
pink ass castle
what makes someone build a castle like that
what goes through their head
It's cute if not a little tacky
They had to have spent decades building that castle unless theres some construction snail that makes construction really easy in one piece and we just dont know about it
or maybe theres a construction devil fruit
There is but Bullet has it
well this is like 400 years before bullet was alive
Well what if Bullet is 400 years old did you consider that
Fuuuuug I couldn’t figure out how to spell the rest of bosnia. Belgium, Lithuania, and Bulgaria were brainfarts
BOSNIA PISSED ME OFF WHY DID IT FUSE? when did that happen?
who even is heterowhatever
how did you forget north macedonia
I wouldve maybe gotten Kosovo right because Kosovo is awesome
i forgot hungary and my family is from there
Also why do they have Turkey in this too
herzegovina is lost media...
but its because im hungry rn
Why is Turkey in both
Due to server rules I will not reply with what I want to say
I actually forgot about Vatican City lol
I got almost all of them right, I thought it was like near US or something
what was the other one you forgot
San Marino
you thought the vatican was in america 😭
The holy Roman Catholic church located in the us
I wouldve missed San Marino too
it felt like it should be idk
2 american popes in all of history and this happens smh
Vatican I know because Italy is really catholic so I just remember that
i mean america at large like both continents here btw
but America is mostly protestant and it's a very young country
Well North America is mostly protestant
on the last thing, its interesting that Oda pointed out that theres a port town before LT, so maybe Vira the port town is
Hey guys
break weak over yet?
yeah look my brain was glitching its fine 
Lowkenuinely what even is a port town😭🙏
!meek
mogged was a good command
have you guys done this one yet
fortress of solitude
way too hard
oh okay true
Thats what they want you to think!
smug ass sporcle quiz
Why does it specify human
ill do whatever quiz i want sporcle quiz. i dont wanna try another continent i want to do which anime character are you quiz
Are there non-human countries in Antartica
because superman is kriptionian
ANT FACT: ANTartica is the only continent with NO ANTS
did you know that?
i did.
i know so much about ants and other things
idk there gotta be a frozen ant somewhere if you dig deep enough
The astute among you will notice that this is ironic, because antartica has the word ant in it. despite its lack of ants. #literacy lesson
If theres nothing special in Antarctica then why do people need special permission to go there
whos gonna stop you
https://www.sporcle.com/games/g/oceania the hardest is actually this
I swear they are making up 60% of these
australia isnt real
Australia is a prison camp gone wrong
when they gonna add new countries? the game is getting stale
best I could do
ah lol
How about we remove some? We don't need all these countries 
especially this one https://www.geoguessr.com/vgp/3199
The ultimate geography test! From Afghanistan to Zimbabwe, the United Nations has 193 members. When the organization started in 1945, there were only 51 members. Membership went up during the 1970s when many newly independent countries joined, and most of them are in Africa. Some of the bigger countries like China and Russia are easy to find, bu...
I have tried to memorize the world map when I was younger but that was like 2 centuries ago
I give up
I forgot some of these existed, like kiribati and micronesia
If the right side is Papua New Guinea, is the left side Papua Guinea?
oh this is tough
tuvalu should be easy since .tv domain is tuvalu
I thought i'd just have to list down the names, which would have been mostly easy but not with the locations on the map 
the baltics are crazy bro 😭 i could barely remember any of them
yeah it's hard
Remembering Bosnia and not Poland is really funny
idk why my brain forgot about poland
europe has so many micro states too like i only knew about vatican city
no way
tough break week
my second country was the gambia bro that is like two pixels big how am i supposed to tap it
on mobile you just have to get lucky
@high void ban this fella
@hot cairn @ashen perch @haughty saddle @hazy turret I realized something
I've said before that I think Oda intends for Kid to be taken as a contrast to Gear Five specifically. If Kid actually inherited Rocks' will and/or is a Davy, that's lowkey more substance cause Davy Jones was paralled to Joy Boy when Rocks was talking to Imu and G5 is what signifies Luffy has assumed the role of Joy Boy
balkans and baltics are different meek my guy
north macedonia isnt real anyways so he can get that one wrong its ok
I'm only just realizing this entire chapter has the same panel format for every page
Three rows, middle spread, two at top and bottom
no wait
ignore that second one
why what happened
I think Blackbeard is probably the rocks of today
Maybe. Idk.
No
no i agree
but kid has the same pun in his old bounty that Blackbeard did in his old bounty
rocks is not a back stabber
he is though
It translates to "Ghost of Jonah," a nickname for Davy Jones
he backstabbed to get hachinosu
who
And he has visual similarties to Rocks
Kidd de9finyitely acks a lot like Xebec so I coudl see it
Shit I cannto spell while durnk
Nvm
u know rocks and blackbeards relation ship right ?
the WG .. (just like Teach did to be a Warlord )
Yeah ofc
oh
I think Kid also inherited Rocks' will
hmm
Or, he may be a Davy as well
This is Blackbeard's old bounty
hmm
Yona no Rei translates to Ghost of Jonah
A nickname for Davy Jones
Kid's bounty after the timeskip has the same pun in it
but kid is dead isnt he
IIRC he's just missing the 6 which just means "of"
ooo .. this helps my theory that Davy Jones was more “evil” like Teach than he was like Rocks (not saying rocks was good)
who would survive a komusari
I don't think Kid is dead tbh
huh komusari
does anybody think he’s actually dead lol
There are unresolved threads for him
i thought it was just trolling
Yeah I don't think that killed him
then what about bartolomeo
he aint dead either
Okay this is a great find cuz what if he gets eaten by a whale on the bottom of the ocean, similar to Jonah and the whale
Yup
There is scripture recounting Jonah being submerged in the Abyss
how many things are there
what does his new bounty mean ?
In the Bible, the abyss is an unfathomably deep or boundless place. The term comes from the Greek word abyssos (Ancient Greek: ἄβῠσσος, romanized: ábussos), meaning "deep, unfathomable, boundless".[1] It is used as both an adjective and a noun.[2] It appears in the Septuagint, which is the earliest Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible, and in the New Testament.
It translates the Hebrew words tehóm (Hebrew: תְּהוֹם, lit. 'deep, void'), ṣulā (צוּלָה "sea-deep, deep flood") and the name of the sea monster rahab (רחב "spacious place; rage, fierceness, insolence, pride.")[2] The Book of Jonah portrays the prophet's near death experience and his descent to the abyss.[3]
I think the meaning people have found is "three hearts"
Kokoro I thinik
@low blaze
Why did I walk into bible, Greek, and Hebrew talk in manga chat
Imu is filled with biblical references
average day in one piece theorycrafting
in chapter 1080, Mars calls Imu "the creator" and Ivankov references a book called Genesis when telling Sabo about Imu
And the whale is apart of a the pod of Laboon’s family he was separated from, Kidd uses his powers to create a mecha-whale android submarine and rides them all into the Red Line in the final war. And then Laboon is reunited with his family. And then Brooke and Brook goes yohoho this is badass and Kidd serves Luffy as a Fleet commander in the final war and him and Brook make a sick punk soul fusion band.
The book of genesis opens by saying God created the world from a deep, boundless void
"Mu" translates to "void"
One of the whales is noticeably gay
Yeahd whcih is why the kraken theory ecists
Wow
the name Imu is also a made up of the first syllable of Eve + last syllable of Adam
in JP
also translates to Buddha I believe
Evam...
It’s probably the most sound part of the theory but I’m workshopping it
It uses characters from the word for Buddha
@scenic dirge
Yeah
theres just so much to Imu's name
But anyway
The only theories I have I ever want to be true is Koby vs Kuzan and Shiryu has Ace
The Abyss in the Bible is also a term used for the sea
oh the sword ace
yea theres alot of different interpretations you can get from imu in general
Shallow Contract
Yes
Deep contract
W progrdssive whales W speed
well it makes sense in terms of the characters in JP
Eve = イブ
Adam = アダム
Imu = イム
the levels for the Abyss
E-Mu, because its said/written like Adamu
Imu uses the Abyss to turn people into demons
Scripture says the abyss is where demons live
And as we all know, spaceships mostly come from the sea
Book of Revelations describes monsters emerging from the abyss through the ground
Imu domi reversi'd giants by flipping them through the ground
Waiitt that makes sense
Killingham is also bringing demons out from the ground
Another aspect of this
It's so fucked up
Those monsters are like, giant locusts with scorpion tails
They fly around inflicting fatal wounds but during this, people can't die
Kinda like domi reversi makes people immortal
you just suffer indefinitely
Rocks was made immortal but suffered
Not a big bible person but back when Saturn (Satan) first appeared, a twitter theorist pointed out that its the same way in which Jesus saw Satan fall, with a massive streak of lightning
well appear as in, with his mythical form
Like Imu possessing Gunko and having an appearance like satan isn't an accident
Japan’s primary religion is Christianity
yeah op has some very obvious biblical references
So it makes sense for Oda to be at least aware of these larger cultural lore pieces that are central parts of it
The stuff that Imu and Killingham are doing is directly mirrored to things happening in Revelations
a literal noah's ark, the world flooding to wipe out people the 'god' isnt satisfied with, adam and eve trees
Oda incorporating Armaggedon into Elbaph is perfect
He's already alluded to Ragnarok
Saturn's Japanese name (サターン) is only one syllable away from "Satan" (サタン), and his superior's Imu's similarities with the Biblical Yahweh, as well as his blackmailing of Kuma being similar to an unfavorable "deal with the devil."
on the Satan thing
The ending of Ragnarok that we know of today, where two humans survive and repopulate, is widely considered to be the result of Christians incorporating abrahmic scripture into the records that survived those times for the norse
i remember your theory surrounding around “kurouzu” translating to black/dark water .. with the reveal of the contract names with Imu, you think it’s some type of connection there ?
Absolutely
I think there's three Nika fruits and also three Abyss fruits
A Logia, Paramecia, and a Zoan
Imu has the Abyss Zoan
Teach has the Logia one
I think Moriah's is the paramecia one
Luffy and Buggy have the Zoan and Paramecia Nika. I think Loki has the Logia one but a part of me considers Smoker
Hence Doflamingo getting orders directly from the Gorosei/Imu to take him out?
I hadn't considered that but it fits
I think of Moriah because of the narrative bringing him in with Blackbeard
Goddamn you Shuron you always say the most insane shit that makes sense
"Shadows" fit darkness which is a defining aspect of the abyss
Peep this
If DFs are conjurations of dreams and interpretations
And people have multiple interprations of Nika as seen in Elbaph
Think about it
There's multiple weight fruits
Woahh, that would be cool
We've already seen multiple versions of one idea
And the fact that there's models
No reason a person couldn't dream of Nika in a way that created a Logia and a Paramecia as well
Harald's laugh is Barahaha and he met Ida in a circus
Buggy is a clown who ate the Bara Bara
He may be related to Rocks
Alright stop 😭
He's got a Nika fruit
shuron is going too fast to be ticketed
Each Nika embodies all of these
Different focus
Luffy is the Nika of liberation, Loki and/or Smoker the Nika of destruction, Buggy the Nika of laughter
He's literally a clown
This man said smoked
People joke about his awakening and fission but
shuronb should know thgat speeding is illegal
you kinda have to let it all out and then think if it makes sense later
thats realtime trial and error
that back and forth with people here allows you to polish ideas, its good for theorizing
haha yeha
We're told that one of the two constants about Nika is that he arrives with white clouds
Luffy achieved Joy Boy status and that signifies Nika with G5
Smoker being the Nika of Destruction can work since smoke is a sign of destruction
Smoke is created when things are burned, destroyed
Plz no
His Awakening, same as Luffy and probably Buggy who will also probably be able to create white smoke when he does - maybe that fission shit really does happen to a degree -, will signify the connection to Nika
this is all true but loki and cloud logia
You hatin
Now THIS person is spitting
Possibly
Im leaning further in that direction
But
Yep #truedat
i legit cant see how Loki doesnt have a white looking df
Like he NEEDS to have some sort of white cloud thing on his design
Imu is a myth zoan who awakened and his personality got absorbed whichi is why he's so awful now
if he doesnt it's such a L for him
like he legit is just coping with the sun god stuff
It's a sea devil zoan whose supernatural power is access to the Abyss
Blackbeard is the Logia manifestation of the Abyss

tbf how he acted there was supposed to be his big facade, the trick he pulls on everyone is convincing them that he really does suck and deserves what is happening to him, only Mosa and to some possible extent, Luffy, have seen through it
he could just be lying about the sun god part too
he could but it brings him down for me if its just that
like sure trickery lies whatever is part of Loki's character but if he legit has no reason to say that shit its just |:
mythic zoan that turns you into SCARY MONsTER
I get that yea, but I dont think he is really serious about being the sun god that destroys the world, atleast not the destroying the world part
but we'll see, just saying that if he had like, the hellflames serpent zoan or something, we could assume that he didnt actually believe that he was Nika
Whats the difference bruh
lololol
its like two entire different groups
idk if this is entirely right but
@ balkan
"Balkans" refers to the Balkans, while "Baltics" refers to the baltics
They're different because they're different words. 
If they weren't different, then they wouldn't be different words
I think by destroy the world, he's referring to the pattern of Nika's presence coinciding with the fall of the current world order
Tysm for sharing your knowledge. What could I have done without you, master. I am forever in your debt
I think "the world" in this context refers to the same "world" that Imu is the creator of.
The world where there are 4 blue seas separated by the red line and travel between islands is hard and restrictive and marines are the supreme military force and celestial dragons tax people into starvation.
balkans, baltics, ballsacks
Random question I saw posed earlier
In a world without haki and devil fruits would Harald or Big mom be stronger
BigmMom
Unknowable? Fuck kinda question is that
bm ez
Balkan rage
Great question
Balkan breakfast
giants are bums, bm destroyed them as a baby
In a world without punching who's stronger mike tyson or george foreman
my mind is blown, i thought Socrates would say Loki
@digital spear @hot cairn @haughty saddle @grand flower who’s gonna stream
you are
yup

i'm here to watch
Factual and truth pilled
i can if nobody elses wants to
😭
Her backstory kinda crazy
my upload speed is p good
Everything in moderation, including moderation
okay you do it
rokaya will probably say no
lazy
Stream what
You right shuron
Fan Letter
i feel you gang
YC is from europe he'll fuck us up
Ah
shit'll be all laggy n shit!!
Fanrlketter is so peak
How far in the story does Fan Letter go
Well the director was peak
Will we see Loki like in the spinoff
top right of the circle is debatable rest is correct
You’ve never watched?
Apparently smoker is nika
also some are like...iffy on if the south of greece/the islands are balkan but thats more splitting hairs
No because I haven't heard anything about Loki
I suppose it was about time for a new nickname, thanks
ping me when everyone is ready
i am ready
I’m around
which vc
captain
Yay
I should’ve pinged you earlier for the discussion about south africa
rokaya will have to pull me in i aint in there
Uhhhh
Yes theyre different words but unless I’m incredibly stupid and uneducated, I’m pretty sure that the Baltics and Balkans are the same region.
Captain vc was almost used for the first time in history
Wait
itsd been used b4
The baltics refers to Estonia, Lithuania, and Latvia.
The Balkans is an area in/around/of Greece.
So as usual, yes you are very ignorant.
just give Cam the captain role
YES
no way he doesnt have 20k messages
Why would you give him a mark of shame?
Again, if they were the same region, then they wouldn't be different words. They'd be the same word.
Hmmmm. Why is this my first time learning about this then
Woahgh meek u got pwned
Mandela Effect ?
who deserves it, shall get it
i have 29k
You don't make the effort to learn beyond what you already know.
Every time the Captain role is forced on me I simply leave ✨
What if non captains want to watch
whats wrong ycv
nuhu h
cam is right
i thought it was a private thing
Elitsm smh
Holy shit you guys are still on geography
Goo-goo babies?
Goo goo dolls?
nop
@digital spear are u watching babygirl


