also-manga

[leaden rivet]

Hey it’s me

[muted hedge]

sure the cub probably won't mind, but if the mama notices you i don't think you can outrun them

[haughty saddle]

He could be chill. There is a chance he just wants to hang out.

[muted hedge]

it's probably better to play dead honestly

[haughty saddle]

Or like, give you some toilet paper

Is he blue???

[final trench]

True

[haughty saddle]

What kinda bear is it

[final trench]

Idk if mama bear gonna be chill tho

[soft tangle]

I get it

[haughty saddle]

So you shoot momma

Adopt the baby

Once the baby gets too big BLAMO

[final trench]

Brother bear: the bad ending

[muted hedge]

sounds like the interlude to cocaine bear

[dull zenith]

I'd just stab the cub bear

he'd survive

[haughty saddle]

I saw that shit in theatres as a kid and got scared but my dad was fuckin with the movie so he took me outside to the arcade at the theatre and gave me like 5$ in quarters so he could watch the rest of it

spent like an hour and a half shooting dinosaurs. Shit rocked.

[muted hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/bear-bear-dance-papabear-gif-5643093640596300426

[digital spear]

W dad

[bleak plover]

Turok Evolution moment.

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/bgKjY.gif

[fallen meteor]

yeaa

[olive sigil]

Nice. Welcome to the game

You’re the first confirmed player

[vestal mural]

[fallen meteor]

if harald isnt on the next chapter this means i win

lets go

[olive sigil]

If Jarul isn’t I win

[fallen meteor]

question can i pick luffy for a free week since he's on the logo

[olive sigil]

It’s like the old days, you and me 1v1

[vestal mural]

Why did you ping me

[olive sigil]

No idea

Sorry

[fallen meteor]

you should play too mip

[vestal mural]

Nah you’re good lol

[vestal mural]

What’s the game

[fallen meteor]

its a weekly game of 'pick a character' and if the character shows up next ch you are keep playing
and you cant repeat characters

[olive sigil]

@vestal mural

[vestal mural]

Oh that’s still going lol

[fallen meteor]

it ended actually so we are starting a new one next ch

[vestal mural]

I mean I’ll have an unfair advantage

[olive sigil]

This is actually the new version

[vestal mural]

Ahh

[haughty saddle]

I think it may have literally been, yeah

[vestal mural]

Ok I’ll start easy

[haughty saddle]

It was one of those old arcade machines you’d like, sit in like a car

[vestal mural]

Harald will def be in the chap

[haughty saddle]

They put a gun in front of me and said give me a quarter to blast dinosaurs. What was I gonna say?

[vestal mural]

Who won last round?

[bleak plover]

Me.

[olive sigil]

Redbei

[fallen meteor]

demonjinbe

[vestal mural]

No idea who that is lol

[fallen meteor]

@stray prism

[tranquil blade]

Redbei really is a top 5 r/onepiece discord creation

[leaden rivet]

Don’t be sorry, be better.

[fallen meteor]

avery steph and cam should play too

illya too

[vestal mural]

Yea never seen them before lol

[fallen meteor]

lets go

[brittle basin]

Moi

[rose rune]

mu

[haughty saddle]

I pick uhhhhh Harjruden

If not him I pick Stetson

[brittle basin]

Imu
I mu
I moo
🐮

[brittle basin]

I choose Ida

[fallen meteor]

@olive sigil

lots of chosers

[vestal mural]

Wait we’re choosing whos in it or not in it

[ashen perch]

this is killing me

they brought out the Nusjuro from him

[brittle basin]

Ethan clone

[ashen perch]

it probably doesnt work in the manga but still funny

[vestal mural]

I mean tbf. With any artist that has drawn thousands of characters, the base is bound to be the same

It’s the other features that define the character

It’s called an art style lol

[hearty shore]

goku and vegeta and gohan are literally differentiated by their hair

they all look the exact same without it

[trim lily]

famously people have a word for this for a certain character type in one piece

[vestal mural]

!funni2

[tropic nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/409784764518760470/785038483659292672/funni_letters_2.png

[vestal mural]

!funni3

[tropic nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/831688307975913492/849886157344735253/unknown.png

[hearty shore]

oda genuinely cooks with unusual female designs (the ones that aren't his generic hourglass silhouettes)

big mom, giolla, maffy

[frozen aspen]

Lippitymop

[ashen perch]

Its an artstyle thing for sure yea, and I think Oda manages to mostly avoid it honestly, people just like to hyperfocus on the eyes when Oda just has a specific way of drawing eyes

people arent supposed to be just their eyes (unless you're Imu), you cant separate them from the whole design with all the main unique features

[frozen aspen]

His female characters still look like shit but yeah

[vestal mural]

They’re fine

[ashen perch]

well you can criticize the proportions, thats fair

[vestal mural]

Who needs organs anyway

[ashen perch]

but outside that no, I think they look good

[trim lily]

do we have any male equivalent to the nami clone

[vestal mural]

Zoro and shanks

[ashen perch]

Luffy/Sabo/Koby

[frozen aspen]

zoro

[urban lodge]

Zoro clones

[frozen aspen]

but its far more obvious with female characters

[dull zenith]

Calling other characters Zoro clones is kind of a stretch tbf

[ashen perch]

and really, the proporitions problem is bigger in the anime and earlier OP than later

[dull zenith]

Or at least there isn't one that comes up to mind atm

[trim lily]

yeah i can’t really think of one in particular

but maybe i just forgot

[ashen perch]

Oda avoided it with Ushimaru somehow

even thought we were all convinced that he was gonna be a Zoro clone lol

[dull zenith]

That one was definitely on purpose

[frozen aspen]

its not that they look exqctly like zoro

[grand flower]

I LOVE TANGERIIIINES

[frozen aspen]

just a similar base

[ashen perch]

true yea

[hazy turret]

5% Minoxidil twice daily
Finasteride 1mg once a day
Microneedling every week with 0.5mm - 1mm needles
Deep scalp massages

[frozen aspen]

ace and shanks for example

[urban lodge]

Early Smoker

[frozen aspen]

those two def look similar

[grand flower]

Ykw you’re funny af idc what I be saying behind your back

[frozen aspen]

or law

[dull zenith]

Ok yeah Smoker I can definitely see it

Chiseled chin with thin eyes

[ashen perch]

guess the character

[grand flower]

Sabo?

[urban lodge]

Sabo?

[dull zenith]

Sabo

[hearty shore]

sabo?

[ashen perch]

yea its sabo

[grand flower]

That was fun

[frozen aspen]

But its way more obvious with female characters, color shakkys hair orange and u straight up have nami

[grand flower]

Another one

Right now.

[hearty shore]

it's funny how he looks a lot like luffy yet you can still tell it's sabo

[ashen perch]

but hes the biggest male clone in the series lol, very close features to Luffy

[trim lily]

nah shakky has a unique face

[grand flower]

Roger and Ace actually

[ashen perch]

well they are related

I dont count that

[hazy turret]

You’re so rude

[frozen aspen]

Sabo and koby have the same eyes but thats it I think. Luffy's aren't as round or they didn't use to be as much

[grand flower]

You can’t count period

[grand flower]

Yeah that’s true

[hazy turret]

Koby

[grand flower]

I was jk Arsal 💕

[hazy turret]

Can you do another one arsal

[grand flower]

Facts

[ashen perch]

I was looking for another actually but I'd have to edit it

[grand flower]

Yeah?

Do it

[ashen perch]

the scar does a LOT for Sabo

[grand flower]

Your labor is our amusement

[bleak plover]

Nami.

[charred flower]

Question, If Zoro already lost against several sword users (Arlong, Kizaru, Fujitora, Big Mom, etc) and some ppl consider that just using a sword as a weapon makes that person a swordsman, does that mean that Zoro is a liar and unable to keep his own oath?

[ashen perch]

was even a meme at one point, thats how we got this

not posting the full meme because its BAD

[digital spear]

(its good)

[trim lily]

(very good)

[frozen aspen]

nah its so funny u could tell the guy who made it was raging

[urban lodge]

We need a Rocks version

[trim lily]

i feel most reasonable people wouldn’t think that

[digital spear]

Did you start this topic in both manga channels?

[dense haven]

yes zoro is a fraud

[frozen aspen]

Ngl if zoro hadn't been injured, he would have probably turned arlong into sushi

[runic dock]

That’s a canon fact

Arlong shit himself just looking at injured zoro

[charred flower]

Yes, I'm that petty

[brittle basin]

Zoro is not a fraud, leave him alone

[urban lodge]

Yeah I'm confident Zoro and Sanji could have beaten Arlong too

[hazy turret]

Launch the truth nuke !

[runic dock]

Maybe even Sanji by himself as well

[formal wagon]

I have read the rules and woud like to confirm my participation. I'll be taking harald as well

[runic dock]

They would not have needed to team up

[wraith mantle]

you didnt even make him a D

low tier OC

[brittle basin]

Let's make a new one, but with Harald painted over Oden.

[trim lily]

nah rocks is the new one

[thick mango]

do you have a thread for this? Might be useful for organization

[trim lily]

he fits the mold a lot better

[hazy turret]

[formal wagon]

mold

[runic dock]

Let’s make a new one but with garling painted over Orochi

[trim lily]

mold posting

[hazy turret]

Actually yeah rocks would be better

[formal wagon]

BTW i knew about moss balls before moss balls were cool

[digital spear]

Mol D. Posting?

[formal wagon]

like WAY before

[steel stirrup]

Together or separate

[ashen perch]

guys it doesnt work if they dont look similar

[formal wagon]

i was on the moss ball train so fucking early

[dense haven]

any mold fans in chat

[ashen perch]

do it with Teach

[urban lodge]

By themselves

[formal wagon]

Mold gave me asthma once

not a fan

[steel stirrup]

Like 1v1 each

[trim lily]

problematic behaviour from mold

[urban lodge]

Yes

[formal wagon]

tbh

[runic dock]

Teech and teech’s twin brother that lives in his stomach

[digital spear]

I LOVE mold

[grand flower]

Arlong used a saw. The rest weren’t real 1 v 1 duels

[digital spear]

Yummy

[fallen meteor]

Who is in

[formal wagon]

has anyone noticed a physical similarity between the characters shamrock and shanks? they could be realted i think.

lmk

[grand flower]

Shanks is homeless

[digital spear]

Is Arlong the worlds strongest sawman

[frigid gulch]

When tf did he lose against any of them

[trim lily]

what if shanks had a twin that was evil

[grand flower]

He has no realtor

[runic dock]

No

[hazy turret]

But he’s too….

[trim lily]

have we seen any other sawmen

[formal wagon]

that makes sense

[trim lily]

he might be

[thick mango]

what do yall think is gonna happen to sterry? It stood out to me that he obsesses over the empty throne when he visits for the reverie

[runic dock]

He will sit on it eventually

[tranquil blade]

Idk he might die

[steel stirrup]

Not a damned thing

[runic dock]

But it’ll mean nothing

[digital spear]

New Imu

[ashen perch]

he is Teach but jacked, make that part of the meme idk

[formal wagon]

sterry will fall in love with imu

[wraith mantle]

sommers wish he was as cool as doffy

[digital spear]

Stelly is the final villain I think

[ashen perch]

draw some fake abs on Teach

[brittle basin]

Let's make a new one, but with Tashigi painted over Kuina.

[grand flower]

Someone pointed out that it’s probably just foreshadowing that Imu wasn’t the rightful king

[steel stirrup]

Bitch what the fuck

[formal wagon]

do i have to?

[brittle basin]

yes

[ashen perch]

yeah

[digital spear]

Thats kinda the whole point of Tashigi

[steel stirrup]

Wtf are you up to

[thick mango]

oh like nerona imu one day long ago was similarly a grasping low level noble

[runic dock]

Let’s make a new one , but with the friends we made along the way painted over kanjuro

[trim lily]

imu not being the rightful king implies there would be a rightful king of the world

[brittle basin]

nah fuck you that was a good one

[grand flower]

Yeah, you can go that far. What I saw was: Just like it’s strongly implied sterry patricided his way into rulership, Imu wormed his way into the empty throne

[runic dock]

[charred flower]

Still doesn't change this

[brittle basin]

SMH Tashigi is Oda's OC.

[tranquil blade]

The Sabo OC thing is a one time meme I'm afraid, it cannot be replicated

[digital spear]

Well yeah everyone is

[grand flower]

Well zoros promise was about 1 v 1 duels against swordsmen

[fallen meteor]

They are all ocs

[steel stirrup]

I wouldnt call Kizaru a swordsman

At all

[haughty saddle]

If I throw a punch, am I a boxer?

[trim lily]

it is up to zoro who is and isn’t a swordsman

[brittle basin]

Kizaru is a lightman

[steel stirrup]

And Arlong?

Lmaoooooo

[digital spear]

Someone do the meme with Luffy painted over Luffy

[charred flower]

So a swordsman isn't a man who simply uses a sword?

[grand flower]

Oh brother here we go

[haughty saddle]

No

[brittle basin]

Kaido is a baguaman

[trim lily]

our monthly swordsman discussion

[hazy turret]

OH now we’re cooking

[haughty saddle]

Unless you hold the opinion that there is no level of skill to swordsmanship

[brittle basin]

Kuhween is a vacuumwoman

[runic dock]

Kuma is oda’s stand in character tho he’s lying about shanks

[hazy turret]

Swordsman debate how I’ve missed you

[grand flower]

Oh no, not that. The part that theyre not 1 v 1 duels

[haughty saddle]

That the merits of being a swordsman merely come from putting a sword in someone’s hand

[formal wagon]

they said i had to

[grand flower]

There isn’t

[brittle basin]

Kuma is a bibleman

[tranquil blade]

Big Mom is a swordsman but Zoro didnt lose to her so it's okay

[grand flower]

An ass swordsman is still a swordsman

[runic dock]

Not exactly , there’s a lot involved in what makes a swordsman

[haughty saddle]

If my grandmother had wheels she’d be a bike

[grand flower]

He just sucks at it

[fallen meteor]

Beautiful

[hazy turret]

Is king a swordsman?

[haughty saddle]

Nope

[steel stirrup]

💀

[brittle basin]

Vegapunk is a brainman

[grand flower]

More like a train if you catch my drift

[pulsar path]

Y'all think bb is waiting to get his father sword back before being a haki swordmen

[brittle basin]

king is a sexyman

[steel stirrup]

King is absolutely a swordsman

[runic dock]

Vegapunk created the RAM shortage

[hazy turret]

Ain’t that the truth

[haughty saddle]

There are levels of entry to a craft. Especially like that.

[formal wagon]

conclusion merchant bibleman biblecoded kindnesscel naivemaxxed trauma merchant

[charred flower]

I agree and that's why Shanks > Mihawk

[fallen meteor]

sometimes i think about this clip randomly and laugh alone

[digital spear]

King is an evil swordsman he uses an evil sword

[brittle basin]

Shanks is a ratman

[steel stirrup]

Kuma catching strays?

[haughty saddle]

I am not an ass swordsman. I am not a swordsman at all. Semantically you could argue I am but you’d be pedantic and wrong and annoying.

[runic dock]

Mihawk doesnt want to lose to a guy with 1 arm it would fuck with his title

[formal wagon]

[brittle basin]

Luffy was a rubberman 🙁

[digital spear]

And toxic and racist and misogynist

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/uvi7qhY4pOw.gif

[steel stirrup]

The bulk of Arlongs fightinf style was reliant in his own strength.

But even if you want to call Arlong a swordsman, he didnt use a sword when he beat up Zoro

[formal wagon]

guys make a top 5 one piece tragedy merchants list

[haughty saddle]

I am NOT a misogynist!! That’s only with Rokaya. And it’s not because she’s a woman. It’s because she is a mouse,

[fallen meteor]

i like at the end how rathaired shanks takes the paper like 'oh what does it say'

[digital spear]

Oh that makes sense sorry

[runic dock]

Shanks wanting to personally go after the man who helped fisher tiger knowing that man is himself

[steel stirrup]

I wouldn't call Kizaru a swordsman he just made a sword so he could fight Rayleigh imo

[brittle basin]

Ida's death
Ida's death
Ida's death

Ida's death
Ida's death

[hazy turret]

Would you call someone who casually draws with no intention to learn the skill an artist? That’s how I see swordsmanship, someone who crudely uses a sword and calls it a day isn’t the same as someone who intentionally trains form and techniques

[digital spear]

image link scam

[steel stirrup]

"Trauma merchant" is wild work bruh😭

[tranquil blade]

1-5. Law

[grand flower]

That’s mighty elitist of you lol

[brittle basin]

no one cares about Law

[hazy turret]

[haughty saddle]

I would not call them an artist, no

[grand flower]

You’re only an artist if you’re good at it?

[hazy turret]

Reread

[formal wagon]

oh i was having a hard time thinking of anyone that fit but law does thanks

[frigid gulch]

Kizaru is decent with a sword

[brittle basin]

everyone is an artist

[hazy turret]

For the love of god

[haughty saddle]

You’re only an artist if there’s intentionality behind what you’re doing

[frigid gulch]

But not a swordsman

[formal wagon]

right now i onl y have kuma a law

[hazy turret]

Reread my message

[haughty saddle]

Don’t be obtuse

[grand flower]

I don’t see what part of that matters

[runic dock]

King just happens to be good with a weird sword with weird ridges on it

[formal wagon]

lowkey robin is a tragedy merchant

[runic dock]

He’s not a swordsman

[brittle basin]

Robin sleeps through buster calls now

[grand flower]

If someone draws all the time but theyre no good at it and have no intention of getting better, but they keep on doing it then yes

Theyre an artist

[hazy turret]

Skill level was not brought into this at all. Attitude and behavior is what I’m talking about

[digital spear]

BLUE STRAWHAT

[grand flower]

A bad artist is still an artist

[cloud ember]

I stg every episode of water 7 ends with luffy going "YAHOO!"

[frigid gulch]

You don’t have to be a great swordsman to be one

[grand flower]

Why does someone need to want to learn to be considered the thing?

[frigid gulch]

It’s just about a set style

[digital spear]

So Shanks is the worst swordsman in the world

[dense haven]

it's called a swordbreaker and it's made to fight swordsman

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/netflix-mihawk-gif-16017751859179581136

[grand flower]

If someone says “my art isn’t very good but that okay,, I’m content doing it how it is” theyre still an artist

[charred flower]

Shanks for the past 4 years has sailed with the PK, sought the Nika DF, infiltrated Mariejois, dueled Mihawk when he was a rookie and there wasn't a clear winner, became a Yonko, stopped Marineford, Wifi hakied an Admiral and 1 hit Ko'd Kid.
Meanwhile Mihawk chilled, cooking with Perona, hiding from Fujitora, Vista, Venus, Garling and Shamrock

[digital spear]

No I will gatekeep them

[runic dock]

Yeah he clearly did that to combat the swordsmen of wano he doesn’t even self identify as a swordsman

[haughty saddle]

Shuron please stop being obtuse. There are levels of skill with things. If you fail to meet a level of proficiency with something, at a certain point, you don’t deserve the title

[formal wagon]

there needs to be a new word for casual artist that makes them seem cool and better than normal artists.

[final trench]

Ooo more chaos

[grand flower]

I’m not being obtuse, I understand that’s exactly what you’re saying

[final trench]

Whats lé topic now

[grand flower]

And I’m saying exactly that is wrong

[frigid gulch]

But he’s right

[hazy turret]

That’s how every vocation works? Is someone who cooks all the time a chef? Is someone who fixes toilets a plumber?

[runic dock]

Mihawk probably won so many rounds of mahjong against perona

[grand flower]

There is no minimum criteria of skill or intention needed to be something other than a person who does it

[hearty shore]

what makes a swordsman

[hazy turret]

Yes there is bruh what

[haughty saddle]

We are talking about swordsmanship. Something with direct, non-perceptive, levels of skill and craftsmanship

[grand flower]

If you suck at singing ans make no effort to get better but you make songs week after week because you want to, you’re still a singer

[brittle basin]

Zoro said he'd never lose again, so anyone he wins against is a swordsman and anyone he loses against is not.

[grand flower]

You’re just a bad one

[grand flower]

And someone can be that

[haughty saddle]

Art, sure man, whatever, the cows singing is art, fine. Swordsmanship is measurable.

[grand flower]

And bad

[charred flower]

I'd also add that in Japan a "swordsman" is a person who follows a path, like Bushido or other codes

[grand flower]

How good a swordsman you are is measurable

A bad swordsman with no motivation to improve is still a swordsman

[haughty saddle]

If you suck cock at swordsmanship and try and try and you still suck cock, you aren’t a swordsman. You’re a guy with a sword.

[steel stirrup]

Arlong uses a sword

Hes a swordsman

But he didnt use one when he beat Zoro

[haughty saddle]

Luffy isn’t a bad swordsman

He isn’t one at all

[grand flower]

I’m aware that’s what you’re saying

But it’s not true

[hearty shore]

zoro will genuinely lift 1 ton dumbbells with his jaw then call it sword training

[grand flower]

Luffy isn’t a swordsman because he doesn’t partake in swordplay lol

[hazy turret]

Also true

[leaden rivet]

I don’t know the context but I’m horrible at art so I don’t consider myself an artist

[haughty saddle]

He has held a sword

And attempted to use it for combat

He is a bad swordsman by your own criteria

[steel stirrup]

Yea ight

[grand flower]

That doesn’t make him a swordsman

He doesn’t actively participate in it

[dull zenith]

Carrying that sword with your mouth can cause a lot of weariness

[hearty shore]

ryokugyu has a sheathed sword i don't think he's ever used, does that make him a swordsman

[steel stirrup]

@grand flower

[haughty saddle]

He has before though. Why shouldn’t that restrict him from being a swordsman?

[final trench]

Honestly, how much you care about the craft

[grand flower]

My criteria was very explicitly that someone who KEEPS AT IT is that thing even if they’re bad at it

[haughty saddle]

In a single moment, he had interest in using a sword to fight

[grand flower]

Because he doesn’t actively do it

[final trench]

At the end of the day this is a pirate show so we’re gonna see alot of dudes with swords and or guns

[trim lily]

apparently not guns

[final trench]

Depends how much you care about the swordsmanship

[grand flower]

I don’t partake in that kinda BS tbh

[steel stirrup]

Have they ever used a sword to fight

[charred flower]

IMO ppl like Roger, Rocks, Shanks are just pirates, warriors, who use swords since it the weapon that pirates use. But no swordsman would call a pirate with a cutlass a "swordsman"

[steel stirrup]

They are a goddamn swordsman

[final trench]

Indeed

[frigid gulch]

That’s just bs

[haughty saddle]

Okay so how often do you need to use a sword, as a percentage, to be a swordsman? Do you have to try to develop techniques and learn further? If you stagnate in your training are you still a swordsman? If you use an Axe but develop a style of wielding that that borrows from swordplay, are you a swordsman?

[ashen perch]

is this something

Guys, here is my One Piece OC, Xebec
His name is Rocks D. Xebec and he is Teach's ultra secret special father
But the world doesn’t remember him anymore and his legend has been hidden

He has epic sword powers like Roger and he killed an admiral on his introduction and he was the captain of Whitebeard, Kaido, Big Mom, John, Shiki, and literally every pirate ever. He is super strong and has an ultra massive bounty

He is incredibly cool and he loved Teach and died trying to protect him and his ultra special mom who looks like Robin. He also wanted to destroy the World Government!

He is a pirate who hates Celestial Dragons and knows lots about world history and is trying to kill the King of the World!

He is actually called Davy D. Xebec and he is Davy Jones' Descendant and was the strongest pirate ever and the greatest enemy of Roger

Hope you like my OC guys!

[frigid gulch]

The sword doesn’t matter

[restive wedge]

If you primarily use swords you're a swordsman that's it

[ashen perch]

someone draw the art I cant draw it

[steel stirrup]

So you don't even want to watch it because its ai it doesn't change the fact that its correct

[frigid gulch]

Vista wields sabers

[grand flower]

Real swordman definition debates after this page came out is so damn funny to me

Y’all think this debate still means anything for why

“This demon animal charging at yoi is my sword attack”

[frigid gulch]

You can wield your limbs as swords in this series

[final trench]

And shanks are was havin duels with mihawk so i wont cut him no slack but i dont think shanks ever cared about being the greatest swordsman, mihawk was his rival

But i still think mihawk is stronger than him as of rn

[frigid gulch]

There is no limit lol

[trim lily]

dont forget he kills an admiral and threatens imu

[steel stirrup]

If they "use" a sword

They are a goddamn swordsman

Idc if they are the worst nigga to ever hold a sword

If they still fight with a sword they are a swordsman

[grand flower]

Yeah sounds like the kind of story that has hard ans fast definitions of swordsman

[grand flower]

lol right?

[frigid gulch]

Ppl don’t understand that OP is different

[grand flower]

Kaku said “actually my feet are swords” and Zoro said “that’s cool af”

[restive wedge]

NO if your limbs are swords and you use them as swords you're a swordsman

[frigid gulch]

Always tryna shoehorn the traditional definition onto OP

[restive wedge]

if your sword is a dog you're still a swordsman

[ashen perch]

wait right, I was trying to stick to the format of the original and couldnt fit all that because theres so much 😭

[steel stirrup]

Idgaf if your sword changes into a leprechaun. Its a sword. You're a swordsman

[hazy turret]

https://tenor.com/view/gino-d'acampo-gino-dacampo-this-morning-grandmother-wheels-gif-1270420353161197650

[formal wagon]

okay what if my sword turns into a gun

[charred flower]

And seeing that's a mythical animal, that's clearly the strongest sword in one piece, no ammount of black paint or sturdines developed by haki can compare

[trim lily]

what if my sword turns into an elephant

[steel stirrup]

🤦🏾‍♂️

[dense haven]

what if people like your art and consider you an artist

[formal wagon]

what if my sword turns into a balloon animal

[hearty shore]

what if i'm the sword

[vestal mural]

MY GOAT

[steel stirrup]

The answer is yes

[formal wagon]

WAIT GUYS WHAT IF LOKIS DEVIL FRUIT IS BALLOON ANIMAL ZOAN

[frigid gulch]

What if your sword turns into etemon

[final trench]

Like uhhh whats his name

[frigid gulch]

[steel stirrup]

Who?

[final trench]

The nigga wit a mask frm eniee lobby

[steel stirrup]

Spandem

[final trench]

He had a elephant sword

[restive wedge]

brokeback guy

[final trench]

Yeeee

[formal wagon]

kaido

[frigid gulch]

Spandam

[steel stirrup]

Who tf is etemon

[hearty shore]

i think you mean the other guy with the mask who rusted zoro's sword like nobody's business

[formal wagon]

my pfp

[frigid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/etemon-digimon-etemon-digimon-digimon-adventure-guitar-gif-21265671

[haughty saddle]

Easy XP

[dense haven]

bingusmon

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/funkfreed-funkfreed-one-piece-one-piece-elephant-enies-lobby-gif-1378814261591237129

[formal wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/digimon-metal-etemon-metal-ete-metaletemo-metaletem-gif-22824736

[steel stirrup]

This mf seems familiar

[final trench]

Im an elephant man

[pine ridge]

mythical human human fruit model clown

[steel stirrup]

OH DIGIMON

[haughty saddle]

Is there any point or panel in the series where anyone at all praises Big Mom for her swordsmanship

[digital spear]

Racist

Banana Slip

[haughty saddle]

Genuine question

[formal wagon]

what

[steel stirrup]

Nah they mostly talk about how much of a tank she is

[haughty saddle]

Not her power. Not her strength. Her swordsmanship explicitly.

[steel stirrup]

Nope

[final trench]

I forgot she had one ngl to you

[ashen perch]

YOOO

this is perfect

[steel stirrup]

She kinda just spams Hakuko

[dense haven]

guys would you say hakai is a swordsmanship technique

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-anime-bigmom-gif-12955693

[tranquil blade]

No because you dont need a sword to do it

[steel stirrup]

Or however you spell it

[haughty saddle]

no. It’s an energy attack.

[tranquil blade]

Brogy can do it with an axe

[steel stirrup]

Ikoku Sovereignty she just spams that

[tranquil blade]

and honestly you could probably do it with a hammer too

but thats more speculation

[frigid gulch]

You can cut without a sword too though

[charred flower]

Same could be said about Dorry, he's a warrior of elbaf, not a swordsman

[haughty saddle]

I bet if you’re badass enough you can just do it with your damn hands, man

[sturdy steeple]

Couldn’t have worded it better

[frigid gulch]

I think in OP

It simply depends on the weapon

[dense haven]

I mean wb spear is a sword so sword classification is meaningless

[haughty saddle]

I agree to this entirely

[steel stirrup]

But she uses a sword

[steel stirrup]

Mhm

[dense haven]

axes probably count as sword

[tranquil blade]

but like tempest kick is clearly trying to emulate a sword slash just without a blade tho

[haughty saddle]

We’ve never had anyone ever say that Dorry is an exceptionally skilled swordsman

[dense haven]

hands count as sword

[tranquil blade]

axes dont count as swords

[haughty saddle]

There are levels to this shit

[charred flower]

Id say BM uses Elbaf style of combat, she uses Ikkoku and Sovereign conquerors

[tranquil blade]

You use an axe differently from a sword

[frigid gulch]

That’s what I mean but you can also use your technique with a different weapon. Zoro performed Onigiri with a scythe

[steel stirrup]

These niggas making Rocks memes?

Rent fucking free.

The nigga is dead move on😭

[dense haven]

you also use a spear differently but doesn't stop oda from calling it a sword

[frigid gulch]

And it didn’t look any different

[charred flower]

Exactly, he's an exceptional warrior

[restive wedge]

Spears are just swords with extended handles

Mihawk's knife is a sword

[dense haven]

axes is just a sword with short blade

[steel stirrup]

You going above and beyond for a man who's already dead and out of the story.

You should've made this a month ago goofy

[charred flower]

And swords are just thin and extended spoons

[frigid gulch]

Kaku classified his legs as swords

[haughty saddle]

And at the level of skill we’re talking about when we talk about Zoro, which spawned this whole thing, I’m sorry, there IS just a level of swordsmanship you can be at where you basically aren’t a swordsman at all

[frigid gulch]

The sky is the limit

[restive wedge]

Spoons are smoothed forks

[steel stirrup]

I hate it here

[haughty saddle]

It’s cute to say otherwise but genuinely. At a certain gap of skill you just gotta know when to hang it up.

[dense haven]

king post the neko panel

[final trench]

Imma fork man

[frigid gulch]

You can’t apply traditional definitions to OP

[frigid gulch]

I would but it’s a pain

[steel stirrup]

Why the hell not

[frigid gulch]

I’d have to search

[charred flower]

And how the fighter sees themselves as a warrior, swordsman follow codes and life philosophies

[frigid gulch]

[steel stirrup]

Here we go with ts again

[haughty saddle]

There is also a level of development and execution to your craft you work towards.

[vestal mural]

Swordsman definition debate again?

[steel stirrup]

If their fighting style revolves around sword usage they are a swordsman

[frigid gulch]

Debate if Rocks is a good guy

[haughty saddle]

Honest to god more people moaning and saying this than mfs talking about swords at this point

[frigid gulch]

[haughty saddle]

Lmao

[trim lily]

true i dont think thats been done yet

[frigid gulch]

Very true

[vestal mural]

Anyone that says rocks is a good guy needs to reread

[urban lodge]

So like

[tranquil blade]

Guys I think we should debate Akainu vs Whitebeard again

[urban lodge]

All Rocks fans

[steel stirrup]

Im not tryna hear Penny and Arsal's mouths rn

[restive wedge]

Imu singlehandedly carrying the Gun user category

[vestal mural]

@ bean

[haughty saddle]

Mihawk vs shanks anyone????

[trim lily]

at this point yes

[soft tangle]

Who’s alive?

[frigid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/god-valley-one-piece-kaido-dragon-fire-gif-16465024412071126193

[trim lily]

imu is the best gun user in the story

[urban lodge]

How about Mihawk x Shanks

[trim lily]

shuggy clears

[urban lodge]

True

[tranquil blade]

It is kinda crazy how current Akainu is stronger than everyone in this gif

[steel stirrup]

Let my goat Rest in Peace bruh he been dead for weeks and yall still bringing him up😭

[trim lily]

his ghost still haunts the story

[frigid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/akainu-sakazuki-sakazuki-one-piece-admiral-marines-gif-4600941655758902030

[dense haven]

rocks went out like a bitch

[vestal mural]

Akainu looking east

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/let-it-go-elsa-disney-disney-princess-queen-gif-3597315

[urban lodge]

I shouldn't say all Rocks fans, there are exactly 2 sane Rocks fans, Muk and Maji

[trim lily]

we need to let him pass on so he can peacefully descend to hell

[rose rune]

when Doffy needed to kill he switched to a gun, cause he knew those are the strongest weapons, same with Kaido

[steel stirrup]

Boy fuck you

[frigid gulch]

“Was I a great pirate?”

[thick mango]

i was mostly happy with rocks, like a 8/10 or so

[tranquil blade]

Akainu looks west while Dragon looks east, they both are looking at each other

[dull zenith]

Kaido’s better

[thick mango]

its probably controversial to say but i like bb a lot better than rocks

[steel stirrup]

Same

[dull zenith]

He’s the only one other than Arlong that I remember that actually killed someone by shooting them

[tranquil blade]

I'd give Rocks like a 6.7/10

[trim lily]

blackbeard is a lot more fun

[steel stirrup]

I enjoy both

[thick mango]

yeah im not a rocks hater, he was good. decent

[steel stirrup]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1271399049177727029/1387123087857946764/ezgif.com-gif-to-apng-converter.gif

[frigid gulch]

It’s funny how Rocks kinda had people shitting on BB

[thick mango]

not morally good not restarting that. i mean a good character

[tranquil blade]

I honestly do it just to mess with you now

[vestal mural]

I mean, rocks got more characterization so there’s more to like about him

[frigid gulch]

“Why couldn’t BB be like Rocks”

[tranquil blade]

See BB is better because he's an evil dickhead but he still has some charisma

[thick mango]

if you think bb has no characterization i think you havent been paying attention

[frigid gulch]

But you don’t need character clones

[steel stirrup]

How about we just let people like tings

[trim lily]

imagine we reach the blackbeard flashback and learn rocks was just as bad as him

[soft tangle]

Yamato and Carrot

[tranquil blade]

Not happening I'm afraid

[dull zenith]

BB’s ‘characterization’ is Rocks

[vestal mural]

I didn’t say he doesn’t have any. I just think what rocks got is more substantial

[steel stirrup]

???

What about em

[tranquil blade]

We'd sooner see Rocks in hell bawling his eyes out because BB is participating in the slave trade

[dense haven]

peak

[frigid gulch]

Demon BB got something for Imu

[final trench]

^

Vice versa as well

[dense haven]

get bb past shanks first

[urban lodge]

Mid off

[soft tangle]

If you know, you know…

[final trench]

He already is

If rocks wasnt blackbeards father i dont think he would get this much hate

But it is what itis

[dull zenith]

Rocks was pretty bad at convincing people not to practice slavery honestly lol

Kaido on his way to create an industrial hell hole

[steel stirrup]

It makes everything BB does have more weight to me.

The fact that his father wouldn't approve is a part of it.

[frigid gulch]

Funny times

[final trench]

Why is he holding his head?? 😭

[tranquil blade]

Idk man

[urban lodge]

I forgot his eye marks in my edit

[trim lily]

now that i think about, both big mom and kaido engaged in slavery after leaving rocks

[tranquil blade]

Someone posted a video with this thumbnail like 3 weeks ago and it's so funny

[trim lily]

maybe its not a coincidence

[steel stirrup]

Now this imo is wrong I think Rocks would be proud of BB for beating WB no matter the method

[vestal mural]

Because he made wb his bitch

[rose rune]

fun edit

[frigid gulch]

Rocks was actually saving those countries

[steel stirrup]

Are you stupid?

[frigid gulch]

Reigned in all the ruffians

[frigid gulch]

Relax

[urban lodge]

Why are you so rude all the time Rich

[frigid gulch]

I’m not being serious

[steel stirrup]

Neither am i

[dull zenith]

Silliest thing Oda did actually

[final trench]

Yea he didnt do it because he hated wb, whitebeard was bouta die anyway and he wanted that gura

[frigid gulch]

So what’s the point of the response

[dull zenith]

Making that charity island into a secretly evil ponzi scheme

[tranquil blade]

Lowkey Rocks having them on the crew did keep them from enslaving countries for at least a little while

[steel stirrup]

To keep the conversation going cause im bored

[frigid gulch]

Yea kinda

[tranquil blade]

I dont think he did it with that in mind though

[final trench]

Im waiting on that gecko moria backstory

[trim lily]

sbs im afraid

[frigid gulch]

He kept them on Pirate Island

[brittle basin]

Or perhaps they became slavers because Rocks inspired them

[frigid gulch]

But at the same time

[steel stirrup]

I just like debating and the best way to do that is to call a mf out

[final trench]

FAWWWWK NO

[frigid gulch]

They did stuff as a crew

[final trench]

Moria bouta visit wano with perona and we’ll get a look into his mind

https://tenor.com/view/gecko-moria-kaido-kaidou-gif-3307991764237697606

[trim lily]

he better hope they dont know what he did

[frigid gulch]

I’m sure Rocks didn’t have noble intentions like that

[tranquil blade]

The problem is that a lot of the philosophy Kaido and BM have started well before they joined Rocks

[brittle basin]

So, how did Moria get Thriller Bark now?

[tranquil blade]

They were always gonna turn out this way

[final trench]

They gave him a grave

[steel stirrup]

Free real estate

[dull zenith]

It’s more like Rocks was just getting strong people to overthrow the WG

[steel stirrup]

No one wanted ts

[frigid gulch]

Boria gifted it to him

[steel stirrup]

Except Moria

[brittle basin]

Apologies, what I said was meant to be sarcastic. I will be more hyperbolic next time

[dull zenith]

It’s like when ur playing Pokemon and u just get all the ones with strong stats just cuz u want a strong team

[final trench]

The galleila giants gave it to him

[runic dock]

He found GV sunken in the ocean with sonar technology and dug it up with excavator technology

[brittle basin]

wtf how did my text become red?!

[runic dock]

Duh

[steel stirrup]

Everyone else was afraid to go near the Florian Triangle he kinda just showed up and set up shop tbh

[frigid gulch]

Yea I mean he rounded them up for his goal

[steel stirrup]

Where?

[urban lodge]

Rocks caught a bunch of level 100 pokemon without getting the gym badges

[trim lily]

that means it didnt send

[brittle basin]

dammit

[tranquil blade]

Message failed to send

[steel stirrup]

I dont even see that message

[brittle basin]

boring, I wanted color text

[frigid gulch]

But if those guys woulda went on to enslave countries in that time

[runic dock]

It never got posted

[steel stirrup]

😭

[brittle basin]

this is a conspiracy

[frigid gulch]

He indirectly stopped it technically

For that time period

[trim lily]

for tier 3 of nitro discord will allow custom message effects

only $23 a month

[final trench]

Aw hell nah

[steel stirrup]

Maybe

[dull zenith]

Yeah, it probably would have happened anyway if he had won against the WG

[frigid gulch]

Tbh this was neat

[dull zenith]

U could argue in a worse scale

[frigid gulch]

Boxer Rocks

[trim lily]

whitebeard looks so weird here

[final trench]

Brothers through combat

[trim lily]

unnaturally thin

[tranquil blade]

These were NOT the davy back fight games the strawhats were doing

[frigid gulch]

Thinbeard

[trim lily]

rocks wouldve been done for if he had to do a cooking game

[frigid gulch]

What even is that one with the axe

[final trench]

Yea it looks like rocks cut someones head off with an axe? 😭

[steel stirrup]

Skinny King

[tranquil blade]

He's like decapitating someone

[pseudo gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/monsters-inc-intro-gif-12590577

[frigid gulch]

Yea I thought that at first..

[trim lily]

im pretty sure this is the hammer and helmet game

but he used an axe

[final trench]

The polo pirates ran? 👀

[steel stirrup]

Rocks Davy Back fights seemed significantly more violent in nature than the SHs

[muted hedge]

i can't see what's happening here

[pseudo gulch]

Foxy should've killed Chopper ngl

[final trench]

He cant kill the goat

[craggy vapor]

What do y’all think of ChatGPT’s explanation as to why the Roger pirates laughed on Laugh Tale.

[frigid gulch]

I also thought for a second that he was carving pottery

[fossil nimbus]

Then who would be the emergency food for the final war when luffy runs out of stamina from using G5

[final trench]

The motherflame

[steel stirrup]

I thought it was something normal until I noticed the blood soaked axe

[pseudo gulch]

A quarter of the Amazon rainforest was cut down for this answer

[dull zenith]

If chatgpt says so

Then its true

[steel stirrup]

[frigid gulch]

Oh ye true

Def not pottery

[steel stirrup]

I hope Luffy eats the MF

[pseudo gulch]

His enemies

[tranquil blade]

Karoo

[steel stirrup]

Luffy is inspired by Hanuman and he tried to eat the sun because he thought it was a fruit

[trim lily]

what an idiot

[steel stirrup]

I wanna see him actually "accomplish" that by eating the MF

[steel stirrup]

Well I mean Luffy was trying to eat a fruit and ended up eating a Sun God

Oda can be a 5 star chef sometimes

Imagine him fighting Imu and the fight gets to the laboratory and Luffy starts running out of energy but before he does he just opens the vault and eats the mother flame and gets a perfected G5

[late compass]

i wonder what the limit is for g5 i mean it being just luffy’s imagination with no limits would be crazy op

[long basin]

I think luffy has been rubbery since birth and didn't notice it. what he ate was the dumb dumb fruit. trust

[tranquil blade]

His stamina really

That's about it

Otherwise he seems almost unbeatable

[steel stirrup]

According to Oda's notes in Road to Laughtale 4, his power is only limited by his imagination.

The way Oda nerfs him in the story tho is by making his stamina in that form very low

[long basin]

his stamina will rise though, with each fight

[trim lily]

hell we already have sort of a solution

[steel stirrup]

But if Luffy can solve that stamina issue he'll literally be only limited by his own imagination and sense of humor

[trim lily]

just conveniently have food nearby

[muted hedge]

his stamina is already extremely tolerable, so that just tells a lot of the drain that Gear 5 has

[brittle basin]

We don't know how far that "imagination" will stretch.

[steel stirrup]

Idk if that will be an option on the final fight especially if Oda decides to have Luffy and Imu fight in Mariejois. They've been running out of food for a long time thanks to the RA

[frigid gulch]

When does Luffy bend the panel borders

[tranquil blade]

Might happen eventually

[muted hedge]

probably against Imu or Blackbeard

[brittle basin]

Luffy jumps out of the panel and slaps Oda.

[muted hedge]

what if Luffy traverses the panels

[trim lily]

luffy jumps out and kills you if he detects your enjoyment falling below 60%

[steel stirrup]

Im hoping he does that in his final fight

[urban lodge]

I'm hoping for no 4th wall breaks

[steel stirrup]

Just demolish the 4th wall the entire fight

[brittle basin]

@grand flower is this how luffy travels back in time? by using imagination to skip panels backwards?

[tranquil blade]

Idk if Oda will go that far with it but hey one of his favorite series and inspirations did so maybe Luffy will as well

[final trench]

I think similar to the mural, joyboy had childish drawings describing the fight

[urban lodge]

I like all the cartoony stuff but I think 4th wall breaks would be too much

[steel stirrup]

Every Yin needs a Yang

[trim lily]

i wouldnt mind if we got some fun stuff with panels

but i dont want anything like explicitly 4th wall breaking

ala actually adressing that its a manga or the audience

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/deadpool-ryan-reynolds-wade-wilson-oh-hello-hello-gif-17291770

[tranquil blade]

If Luffy like stretches the manga panels I dont think I'd mind

[muted hedge]

imagine Luffy demanding us the readers to turn the page

[final trench]

Luffy punches oda

[tranquil blade]

but yeah speaking to the reader would be a bit much

[trim lily]

panel manipulation can be very cool when done well

[brittle basin]

can luffy trap Imu in the panel so they can't leave?

[final trench]

“You guys ready to see the one piece”

dies from peak

[brittle basin]

can luffy erase panels?

we can go really far with this

[trim lily]

thatd go too far for me i think

[brittle basin]

can luffy imagine a pencil and redraw a panel so it has a different outcome?

[urban lodge]

I'm Luffy btw, he didn't like the cherry pie

[muted hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/deadpool-fourth-wall-break-gif-24034848

[tranquil blade]

I dont think he can quite do doodlebob stuff

[steel stirrup]

Thats fine

[tranquil blade]

Is cherry pie good

[brittle basin]

YES

[trim lily]

no

[steel stirrup]

It can be

[tranquil blade]

I keep forgetting that I've never eaten a pie before

[urban lodge]

Never had it

[brittle basin]

I just had french apple pie last night myself

[trim lily]

apple pie clears

[steel stirrup]

Depends on who makes it

[final trench]

^

[pseudo gulch]

It's so bad I could die

[final trench]

i dont think ive ever eaten pie

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/buffy-buffy-the-vampire-slayer-stare-fierce-gif-14398033

[muted hedge]

blueberry pie

[urban lodge]

Apple pie is very good

[brittle basin]

What the fuck is wrong with you? Go fix this right now.

[ashen perch]

I think you might be a little too attached to this guy given how seriously you take this lol, its just a silly meme that I hadnt thought about making before, calm down.

[tranquil blade]

I've eaten pie in a video game before

[trim lily]

wow

[muted hedge]

what game?

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/onepiece-one-piece-one-piece-manga-one-piece-break-week-manga-break-week-gif-7654237069196734151

[brittle basin]

i'm surrounded by crazy people

imagine never trying pie

[steel stirrup]

Skill issue

[final trench]

Any recommendations

[brittle basin]

warm apple pie with a large dollop of vanilla ice cream

[tranquil blade]

Uhh it was like a minecraft looking game called vintage story

[brittle basin]

that's the classic

[final trench]

Ight thats too much

[trim lily]

nah its the perfect combo

[final trench]

I gotta do ALLAT to like pie?

[wraith mantle]

pecan pie is great as well

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/me-when-i-see-my-class-gif-15768348532634343334

[muted hedge]

oh one of those mobile games who try to mimic it

[brittle basin]

apple pie
peach cobbler
you can't go wrong with either. but peach cobbler is more a southern thing

[trim lily]

apple crumble is better than apple pie but thats a conversation for another day

[steel stirrup]

Nigga its just pie and ice cream😭

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/apple-pie-pie-pie-day-ice-cream-yummy-gif-17764039

[final trench]

I gotta warm itup i gotta buy ice cream and put it on there

Like FAWWK

[ashen perch]

@urban lodge thank you for that work of art, I tried (theres too much fucking text because Oda was doing too fucking much with him)

[dense haven]

fish pie

[final trench]

But ill try apple pie

[brittle basin]

you definitely need to warm up most pies to really enjoy them

the fruit ones at least

[final trench]

I see

[trim lily]

thats an awesome xebec fanart

[urban lodge]

Amazing

[muted hedge]

what the hell happened

[tranquil blade]

Not a mobile game ripoff, like an actual pc game that looks kinda like minecraft but is way harder

[urban lodge]

I will try to make a better edit later

[brittle basin]

GRRM describes fish pies I think.

[trim lily]

it looks just like him

[urban lodge]

I forgot to give him his eye mark thingies

[muted hedge]

oh interesting

[ashen perch]

oh lmao, still works tho

the jacked part was important

[steel stirrup]

This would've banged last month

[ashen perch]

and you nailed that, he literally looks like Xebec!

[tranquil blade]

I'm reading this like a poem

[ashen perch]

yeah I realized it looked like a poem lmao

[trim lily]

it does look like a poem a 5th grader would present to the class

[ashen perch]

I was trying to capture the spirit of the original

[tranquil blade]

It doesnt have enough hate behind it

[trim lily]

it doesnt quite nail the oc/fanficcy style

[brittle basin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/738580480437387264/1302412654274416722/kid_to_kenny_transformation.gif

[ashen perch]

not even trying to get a banger actually

[steel stirrup]

Yep

Go hard or go home

[urban lodge]

I can make one with more hate

[trim lily]

i think we already did in the past

[dense haven]

lmao

[final trench]

Bro had to switch occupations

[trim lily]

or at least wrote it out

[brittle basin]

His name is Kenny btw

[ashen perch]

is this better

[final trench]

What if kidd is shanks brother

[tranquil blade]

For it to be good you have to tell they were so angry typing it that they were on the verge of tears, that is peak hate

[steel stirrup]

Only if you truly mean it

[muted hedge]

where did you get the name Kenny from?

[final trench]

“All i ever wanted to do was make you proud”

[tranquil blade]

They turned him into the y2k rpg guy

[trim lily]

the formatting is too well done

[ashen perch]

look

[steel stirrup]

😭

[final trench]

We still dont know rocks’ age💔💔🫩

[ashen perch]

I am not 13 anymore, I cant exactly capture their writing style

[final trench]

Is it sbs time

[trim lily]

tragic

a skill lost to time

[steel stirrup]

But he wasn't the strongest pirate ever

[ashen perch]

I am pushing 26 its over

[final trench]

DAMN

[ashen perch]

just a lil exaggeration

[tranquil blade]

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-friends-gif-24494528

[steel stirrup]

I would guess 40s

[final trench]

Woah relaz

Im only 22

[muted hedge]

Xebec is probably around 45 - 50 if i had to guess

[final trench]

Yea it might be similar to how bb is currently

Because bro is 40 and kidd luffy and law 19-23

[pulsar path]

King k rule as a person

[brittle basin]

replace the 1 with a 3 and you're close to me

[steel stirrup]

Bro is ancient

[tranquil blade]

Xebec does not seem to have aged visibly from the time he killed the admiral to god valley

[brittle basin]

got ur mom's number though. tell her i said thanks

[urban lodge]

The only person who aged in this flashback was Harald

[pulsar path]

https://tenor.com/view/king-k-rool-eye-donkey-kong-country-dkc-huh-gif-7024031753584274675

[tranquil blade]

So I feel like he had to have already been older than the rest of his generation

[steel stirrup]

Aren't you married?

Im snitching like Shanks

[urban lodge]

Ida still looks exactly the same

[ashen perch]

Oda wasnt very good at aging characters this flashback lol

[tranquil blade]

Well Kaido aged

[brittle basin]

i am, yes. time to start the harem

[tranquil blade]

Kind of

[fossil nimbus]

Kaido too

[trim lily]

ida is actually very big into cosmetic surgery

[steel stirrup]

"MRS BUFFY! YA MAN IS CHEATING ON YOU WITH MY MOM"

[tranquil blade]

I feel like Rocks is like Streusen's age

[ashen perch]

yeah Ida has looked the exact same since she first appeared

[trim lily]

that was what killed her

[pulsar path]

I mean Roger changed a lot

[final trench]

Shlawg is not superman

[brittle basin]

nuh uh

[pulsar path]

He went from ace to live action Roger real fast

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/regular-show-my-mom-shirt-swing-trash-talk-bye-gif-5037821

[frozen aspen]

whats with vc bein full

[ashen perch]

Roger changed a little too quickly , but I guess the disease is supposed to explain that

[trim lily]

people be chatting

[tranquil blade]

Actually yeah I could see Xebec being born around a similar time as Streusen

[final trench]

I thought wb and roger their diseases on god valley

But sadly they didnt 😔

[steel stirrup]

There's no mod in the VC either who knows what horrors are unfolding in there

[pulsar path]

Roger damn near looks like a different person lol

[muted hedge]

do we know when Whitebeard got his sickness?

[tranquil blade]

because Streusen was 54 during GV which Xebec easily could've been that age

[ashen perch]

eh I wouldnt say that, you can still see Ace from a certain angle

[pulsar path]

It was the straw hat

[final trench]

Nope

[pulsar path]

Idk

[ashen perch]

take the moustache away, take the eyebags away

[final trench]

Atp i dont think we’ll ever find out

[ashen perch]

and its ace again

[final trench]

Unless we see it in blackbeards flashback

[muted hedge]

sometime after Roger at least

[final trench]

When he’s on wb’s crew

[muted hedge]

maybe Roger did spread his disease to Whitebeard on their last meeting?

i don't know if it was contagious

[final trench]

Insanity lmaoo

[tranquil blade]

I think if Xebec theoretically was alive today he'd be in his like late 80's

[final trench]

That sake was contaminated

[pulsar path]

This i a gree on

[muted hedge]

no, it wasn't

i mean that it would spread through the air like some diseases do

[fossil nimbus]

I think Xebec was around Roger's age, probably a bit older

[ashen perch]

this isnt too close to his death but you can clearly see the Ace here when he looks just like Roger did

[pulsar path]

This i don't

[tranquil blade]

Well idk it seems like Xebec was the only pirate who was in his prime at the time

Which to me indicates that he's older than the rest by a good margin

[brittle basin]

nose hair Roger

[pulsar path]

Best Roger honestly

[steel stirrup]

His mustache was supposed to be nose hair is wish Oda had stayed with that

[pulsar path]

Me too

[brittle basin]

stop updating your character designs oda

[pulsar path]

Wtf

[ashen perch]

it wasnt lol

[brittle basin]

stfu

[ashen perch]

its just hidden under his nose

[muted hedge]

Roger looked the best in Odens flashback in my opinion

[tranquil blade]

Like I'd say at oldest he was born around the same time as Streusen, but probably a few years after realisitically speaking

[steel stirrup]

Arsal I stg

[final trench]

💔

[ashen perch]

why would it be nose hair

[brittle basin]

nose hair like bobobo is so poggers

[pulsar path]

Yeah he's sexy there

Shaky would have chosen him if she waited

[steel stirrup]

Im sick of you

[ashen perch]

also people get it wrong, Roger didnt really change outside of GV

[final trench]

Insanity

[ashen perch]

it was Ace's design that changed

[final trench]

Its because of that fanart man

[ashen perch]

go look back at him from Alabasta

[final trench]

That fan panel of the film red draft

[muted hedge]

people being surprised that Roger would have a ressemblance to his son is still shocking

[tranquil blade]

Idk Roger looks kinda gross in chapter 1

[pulsar path]

I can't remember if ace being Roger son is a change retconn

[muted hedge]

well he was worn out and sick

[tranquil blade]

He looks less dirty when he's in the Oden flashback

[muted hedge]

i doubt that he was fed properly either

[ashen perch]

Ace's design was changed to look more like Roger's when Oda came up with the idea of him being Roger's son before Marineford

[steel stirrup]

I doubt they let bro have a shower before they killed him

What's the point

[ashen perch]

he is at his deathbed essentially lol

[tranquil blade]

Ace being changed was a disaster tho

[steel stirrup]

Still no mod in the VC yall slacking

[ashen perch]

eh, I was never too attached to Alabasta Ace personally

[final trench]

Kinda wanna know how an adult ace would turn out

[tranquil blade]

He looked so good like pre-marineford and then they had to make Ace look more conventionally attractive

[final trench]

Or older ace i should say

Bro was 20 wasnt he

[steel stirrup]

The nigga probably still wouldn't use Haki

[final trench]

“Roger used haki…i HATE it”

[muted hedge]

if Ace grew up into his prime, he'd probably have become the pirate king

[ashen perch]

Oda wanted to just move away from lazier faced Luffy to Roger-esque because he was changing his idea on who he was supposed to

[steel stirrup]

Ace really clashed with Yamato and then had the nerve to stalemate with Smoker

NIGGA

[tranquil blade]

Alabasta Ace looks more like what I think a pirate would look like, the way Ace is drawn now makes it look like he moisturizes daily

[final trench]

To BE FAIR

Hard fighting smoke with fire

But shlawg couldve used armament

[steel stirrup]

"Our powers cancel each other out"

WHAT ABOUT YOUR HAKI ACE????

[ashen perch]

pretty sure the anime also makes Ace look more like that ngl lol

[final trench]

Smoker needed the aura tho

[muted hedge]

maybe Whitebeard demands that they wash themselves at least 1 time a day

[ashen perch]

he is pretty attractive in Alabasta too, I'd say

[tranquil blade]

The anime was good back then

[steel stirrup]

So Ace did that to let bro save face

Smh

[tranquil blade]

Yeah but you can tell he's different

He's not really ugly persay

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-stampede-one-piece-stampede-one-piece-movie-stampede-pirate-festival-gif-419389819451128050

[steel stirrup]

Ace with the black coat is too much sauce

[final trench]

Awakened smoker WHEN