also-manga

[ashen perch]

someone made a chart of it ages ago

[pulsar path]

I remember that!

It has his whole body shown

With where scars would be

He was looking like the dude form alabasta

[ashen perch]

yeah lol

[pulsar path]

That Earl has as his profile pic lol

[wraith mantle]

you calling harald a fake guy?
you don't have to defend jimbei by slandering another character Sanjuan

[cloud ember]

I love when manga gets weird it reminds me why I migrated down here

[ashen perch]

the scars from Arlong biting down his neck, from Katakuri taking a piece out of the side of his stomach, from Crocodile stabbing, it had it all

I think its too nsfw to post tho

[olive sigil]

He’s a traitor to his race. No pride. No self respect. I feel bad for the giants who bought into his delusion

[ashen perch]

because Luffy is wearing nothing in that lol, but you can look it up for yourself

[cloud ember]

this?

[wraith mantle]

hmm is this your genuine take or a bit?

[ashen perch]

nah not that one, thats not covering them all

[ashen perch]

oh thanks

[olive sigil]

I wonder if getting half his face blown up would have given Newgate a scar if he survived marineford

[ashen perch]

I was about to do that lol

[wet condor]

It'd be too much work to draw all those

[ashen perch]

you missed a couple

[cloud ember]

its scar tissue not deadpool cells lol

[pulsar path]

Aww hody and a long basically kissing through Luffy

[wet condor]

That's why he doesn't do it. I remember Toriyama said one of the things he hated was drawing all the spots on a certain character lol

[ashen perch]

but yea, not asking Oda to draw them, just saying that Oda doesnt do scars like that

most attacks never leave a permanent scar in the series

[pulsar path]

How crazy would Zoro look I wonder

[ashen perch]

no matter how brutal they may look

[pulsar path]

Frankenstein maybe looking

[cloud ember]

also sanji knocked out his teeth

but they regrew with milk

[wet condor]

One of these days someone can their own rendition where they go back and put in all the scars that Luffy should have lol

[thin quest]

meanwhile Sanji is perfect without a single scratch

[hazy turret]

Can’t get scratches if you never fight

[pulsar path]

Every one seems to have shark teeth in onepiece

[olive sigil]

Imagine if buggy had a side effect that he can reattach but it leaves a scar

[wraith mantle]

he chooses his opponents wisely

[distant vine]

The benefits of not being the combatant

[thin quest]

Kid pfp 🥀

[ashen perch]

I am pretty sure Sanji should have a scar or two, did he not get cut by Jabra?

I thought he did

[thin quest]

I don't think so

[wet condor]

I too, do not remember

[strong wadi]

Did you know Luffy is a holy knight because Katakuri didn’t scar him

[wet condor]

But that sounds like a fight where he would've gotten fucked up enough to get one

[hazy turret]

Robin pfp

[cloud ember]

nobody rewatches Sanji fights lol

[distant vine]

LOL

[brittle basin]

Ida PFP>>>>>>>>

[ashen perch]

well now he basically cant get scarred

[thin quest]

healing factor baby

[pseudo gulch]

I assume scars stay only if they have a significant meaning

[thin quest]

[ashen perch]

but he had to have gotten cut before this, no way

[pulsar path]

Sanji actually got the biggest power up other than Luffy

[brittle basin]

uwu check out my power ranger suit - Sanji

[wraith mantle]

yall taking that tweet too seriously lmao

[pseudo gulch]

What's wrong with that

[hazy turret]

[olive sigil]

I dont respect his mentality

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-i-have-the-high-ground-gif-4939538

[wraith mantle]

its a joke, i dont think he actually thinks jimbei is a holy knight, just an FYI if it wasn't clear

[olive sigil]

We don’t joke about Jinbe. He’s a pure soul

[dense haven]

brook is a holy knight

[brittle basin]

Nothing.

[wraith mantle]

thats for sure

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/we-breaking-bad-walter-white-gif-14928204287258878513

[cloud ember]

https://tenor.com/view/it-should-have-been-me-it-should-have-been-me-not-her-it-should've-been-me-meme-it-should've-been-me-gif-6185711253428236262

[vestal mural]

Man that was such a hype fight

[olive sigil]

Ok see this time it is funny because it isn’t about Jinbe

[brittle basin]

Does this mean Robin is an oni?

[bleak plover]

I wonder how it'd feel to be Jacuzzi Clutched by Robin.

[pseudo gulch]

If only Oda remembered she can do that instead of being a background character...

[pulsar path]

I want a holy knight that in all intensive purposes seems like a good guy but still is apart of them exactly like Harold only this dude went through with it and probably to a lesser extent not being a giant

[graceful grove]

you know your mc is washed when you have a Kuro scar

[brittle basin]

The power only activates in front a giant hot babes

wait

Ripley.....

[pulsar path]

Domi robin

[distant vine]

A pure thinker too.

[bleak plover]

Reversi*.

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-1144-lucci-rob-rob-lucci-gif-18102215556776409432

[hazy turret]

[strong wadi]

Yeah this could work although Imu will be overriding him. TBH there’s a strong chance this will be shamrock

[graceful grove]

[cloud ember]

sexy aaa fight

[olive sigil]

Jinbe Franky and Scooper would sit down and watch

[pseudo gulch]

That's what I thought

[ashen perch]

why did he say that

Goda foreshadowing...

[pseudo gulch]

Me too Sogeking

Me too

[olive sigil]

Was this because they took Robin?

[bleak plover]

Toei working overtime to help huffman save face.

[pulsar path]

In thinking like a regular worlder like....I can't even say who cus tbh I don't think any one could fit but for an example if iceberg Sama like came out to be one ( not really just the best kinda example I could think) I do like the idea for shamrock tho

[strong wadi]

Oda can definitely go for the twins working together against WG plotline

[ashen perch]

it was actually Zoro but I cropped him out to blame Usopp

[pulsar path]

Is she reversi or just being a Domi

[cloud ember]

https://tenor.com/view/sanji-eneru-smoke-cigarette-gif-20123726

[olive sigil]

Johto did you hate sogeking when he went to enies lobby?

[bleak plover]

I dunno...

[pulsar path]

IDC what people say such a great moment

[pseudo gulch]

Yeah bruh he took away Usopp's spotlight

[bleak plover]

Domi?

[brittle basin]

I know what I want the answer to be.

[bleak plover]

I'm not sure what the question is.

[pseudo gulch]

That bum stayed in Water 7 doing nothing smh

[brittle basin]

dominatrix

[bleak plover]

Oh.

[pulsar path]

Robinmatrix

[cloud ember]

btw Sanji decided to tank the attack but also really quickly MUST have covered his cig enough to only light the tip and not the whole cig

[bleak plover]

Y'all being horny in chat?

[brittle basin]

Of all the people to say this......

[wraith mantle]

over animated imo

[olive sigil]

Yeah but i think the pay off was worth it. One of my favourite temporary strawhats like Johny, yosaku, momo, kinemon, carrot, tama

[distant vine]

It is a little surprising Robin didnt use this vs Sommers but I guess she was focused on distracting him

[cloud ember]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-robin-nodding-music-in-the-car-gif-7906714970539991238

[brittle basin]

Anyways, Stussy, my beloved.

[strong wadi]

Unfortunately, I’d say crocus, rayleigh, and gaban are the only characters the strawhats have met that could fit this.

[ashen perch]

okay yeah Jabra did stab Sanji but again, Oda doesnt do scars

[bleak plover]

I'm not horny, I just express my love towards women.

[pulsar path]

Perfectly animated imo 🪐 * fixed

[bleak plover]

Big difference.

[brittle basin]

She will activate it when the plot requires it

[distant vine]

Even though she got captured Robin vs Sommers was a cool fight btw

She used her IQ

[brittle basin]

meirl

[cloud ember]

https://tenor.com/view/sanji-sanji-one-piece-one-piece-sanji-sanji-crying-sanji-cry-gif-25573647

[pulsar path]

Yeah they deff ant! Or at least I hope not

[strong wadi]

And I’m just saying that based off potential strength necessary to be a holy knight

[brittle basin]

btw robin has conquerors

[ashen perch]

speaking of that

[bleak plover]

Yeah, me. I conquered Robin.

With rapport and flowers.

[ashen perch]

did you guys see that Toei gave Bonney ACoC

[bleak plover]

I don't watch the anime anymore.

[pulsar path]

I wonder tho like was Gunko that powerful? Or was it something else for Imu to have to had taken control not her like Harold

[cloud ember]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-robin-wtf-face-gif-25677645

[ashen perch]

completely real frame

they even added a big lightning sfx to it

[distant vine]

Anyone got the image of Imu at Oda's desk?

[bleak plover]

I'll assume that's real.

[pulsar path]

So bonney has the coc?

[bleak plover]

Not sure I approve, but it's okay.

[ashen perch]

you can see it in the clip lol https://fixupx.com/pewpiece/status/1997678164839903615?s=20

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[bleak plover]

If there was a moment to have Conqueror's Haki, it was that.

[distant vine]

I imagined Imu going "And I have this lady sidekick thats so strong she can solo half the SH's"

[wraith mantle]

bonney upscale is welcomed

[pulsar path]

Idk for me my mind just ignore all the haki crap in the anime now lol

It's basicly on the level of red gear secondo

[brittle basin]

Evil Bonney

[bleak plover]

Given the direction that scene took, I would have expected Luffy's attack to land first, parrying all of Saturn's legs so Boneny could land her fist.

[brittle basin]

It was a bit.....less.....dramatic than this in the manga right? And didn't Bonney realize she wasn't actually all that capable as a Gear 5 clone?

[latent hamlet]

She has to gaslight herself into thinking she has coc

[latent hamlet]

Gear Death
Bonney Edition

WAIT NO

GEAR TYRANT

To match kuma

[bleak plover]

Gear Eater.

[ashen perch]

nah I'd say it was very dramatic in the manga too

[ashen perch]

the anime naturally extended it though

[sturdy steeple]

Good timing, gonna go watch the episode

Forgot about it

[brittle basin]

manga version. yeah it seems dynamic as well just nowhere near as drawn out

[shadow vault]

I got this too from a video its also from oda desk pictures

[wraith mantle]

gosh the ending to egghead was great

[brittle basin]

that was AI upscaled, if I remember

[shadow vault]

Yes

[brittle basin]

I'm confident Oda left that picture lying there on purpose just to fuck with us

[ashen perch]

Its Imu, just not the Vivi-esque design that a fan made with AI lol

[shadow vault]

Really similar to the original work I though its lilly or estrid since oda was drawing elbaph chapter

[ashen perch]

I dont see a woman at all in the original

[brittle basin]

the original is so blurry I can't really make out much of anything. it's just the elongated top of the head that caught people's attention initially

[glacial bear]

What if Imu has red hair

[shadow vault]

Well if you zoomed enough its similar too this I doubt its even a made up lols

You can see the crown and long hair

[muted hedge]

same

[ashen perch]

you can see a crown, you can see red eyes, you can see a lifted arm

so I do think its Imu

just not the lady that AI generated lol

[glacial bear]

Does Imu have a sword?

[shadow vault]

But honestly why would oda just revealing imu like that

Probably trying to troll us

[ashen perch]

its blurry enough to not really be a reveal

[ashen perch]

kinda

[muted hedge]

i don't think it's the Imu we will get

[shadow vault]

But people could upscale it with AI

[brittle basin]

they had a sword in the flower room right?

[muted hedge]

yes

[dense haven]

imu is a baddie

[shadow vault]

Yes

[ashen perch]

yea, he doesnt use it, but he does have it

[wraith mantle]

where do you see the red eyes

[ashen perch]

Nerona Imu placed a sword at the bottom of the throne too

[muted hedge]

the only time they used it was when they stabbed the posters

[ashen perch]

oh yea right

[ashen perch]

below the crown, kinda

[vale heath]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_numbers

[barren token]

Do not ask arsal what he sees

[brittle basin]

how long do I have to tell people this until they see the vision?

[shadow vault]

I didnt see any red eyes lol

[wraith mantle]

yeah i dont really see it

the red eyes that is

[barren token]

Disengage with talking to Arsal about the imu draft

[rose rune]

you have to draw the vision

show them buffy

[brittle basin]

no no i like being lazy

[shadow vault]

If you look closely its similar really

If people still say its not then idk

[rose rune]

use AI then

[wraith mantle]

kinda wild it gets leaked this way

[ashen perch]

lmao

[glacial bear]

I want Imu to be nonbinary

[shadow vault]

I know tho especially since oda was drawing elbaph chapter (drawn by imu)

[barren token]

The ai upscale clearly makes it out to be more feminine tbqh

[muted hedge]

i'd like for Imu to be like the Cuphead devil

[shadow vault]

Probably oda messing

[ashen perch]

look, theres two clear red colored things below his crown

Idk what to tell you smh

[barren token]

Yeah the veil

[glacial bear]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-imu-imu-one-piece-butterflies-flowers-gif-3419652870965976720

[barren token]

We can't do this again

Last argument took 5 years off my lifespan

[ashen perch]

I cant find my original drawing now

[shadow vault]

Lol arguing imu gender will cause a holy war

[wraith mantle]

cant you use paint to highlight the eyes real quick?

[muted hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-laugh-the-devil-the-cuphead-show-hehehe-scheming-laugh-gif-27338961

i love this design

[glacial bear]

I just noticed the 5 Elders Egghead reveal is also colored in too

[dense haven]

you can't just make details out of thin air

[shadow vault]

Also Nico robin demon form is similar to domi reversi and gunko

Foreshadow maybe?

[barren token]

This wasn't about gender Arsal thought imu was some weird little frog creature

[bleak plover]

Robin is a Holy Knight of God.

[muted hedge]

do you mean the Vearth statue, lol

[dense haven]

people don't want the final villain to be a woman

[barren token]

DO NOT SHOW ARSAL THAT

[brittle basin]

I do

[bleak plover]

Frog creature.

https://tenor.com/view/frog-frog-laughing-gif-25708743

[barren token]

Some people really really want imu to be a woman maybe too much

[brittle basin]

I do

I've had enough MANga

Where is WOMANga

[muted hedge]

i don't mind whatever Imu is, i just want them to have the stereotypical features of the devil

[ashen perch]

I have seen it enough lol, I am literally the #1 weird little creature believer here

[glacial bear]

The pitchfork & devil tail is cool for Imu

[brittle basin]

This is Luffy if he was mixed with Doffy and Kizaru.

[ashen perch]

I believe he is going to look something like the Vearth statue, not the same because its a mythical design of him but similar

[barren token]

Not reading that message

[brittle basin]

the only*

[muted hedge]

yeah it's great

[wraith mantle]

wonder if harald will get long hair when imu possess him

[barren token]

I'll assume it's you admitting you're wrong and stupid and I'm right and handsome

[ashen perch]

theres others I think

[bleak plover]

Borsalonkey D. Lufflamingo.

[shadow vault]

Hell even imu devil fruit itself literally weider, imu can transform, give people immortality, do teleportation, giving people buff by pact,literally out of devil fruit law

cant even die

[muted hedge]

yeah they're making a deal with the devil

[timber glacier]

Well we don't know if its a df ability

[pulsar path]

Wait Do we consider luffys turning water to rubber canon ?

[barren token]

Kinda disappointed how quick we got to back to where the flashback started was kinda hoping there'd ne another chapter with shanks and harold in the holy land

[timber glacier]

Could be another Jango situation

[shadow vault]

Yeah

[muted hedge]

i personally don't think it's a devil fruit

[pulsar path]

We will get that flash back in the flash back when shanks and Gabben show up

[brittle basin]

Yeah Imu might have just made a deal with a literal devil or even be the devil for all I know

The First World will have the answers I seek

[pulsar path]

Tbh am I the only one that see show that makes Luffy like strong as hell? How is any one going to deal with that shit

[muted hedge]

i'm leaning towards the devil possessing Nerona Imu

[pulsar path]

Also why does sommers tattoo look so different

[timber glacier]

Wasn't imu from the second world tho

[brittle basin]

that too. i have to remember Nerona Imu is necessary to all this and was a real figure

[ashen perch]

was looking for my drawing and instead found this, posted years before Nerona Imu was named...

close enough

[pulsar path]

We don't really know tbh my therapy is Imu nerona is but the powers and form they take now is from the first world

My theory **

Lol

[brittle basin]

The reason I bring up the first world is I find suspicion in the people delving into the earth for a resource to power their tech at the time.

[glacial bear]

Fire cannot harm Imu because it’s the devil itself!

[shadow vault]

Don't ask me ask oda, hell even bonney can alternate her future into nika is already mind boggling, imagine if she alternate her self into imu Were fucked😭

[brittle basin]

We are SO close to full on Doom Piece, I can taste it

Imu's ungodly shotgun was the first step

[pulsar path]

That's is interesting I wonder how possible that is

[muted hedge]

Bonney could probably do that, if she knew about Imu

though she'd have no knowledge of what it means

[pulsar path]

Could it be that Imu nerona awakened their fruit and Imu took over consciousness?

Devil*

[muted hedge]

i really don't think it's a fruit

[shadow vault]

Give me a future where i own a slave and dominate the world 💀

[pulsar path]

Maybe it's the first fruit

[muted hedge]

she could probably just say give me a future where i am king of the world

[pulsar path]

We already have Adam and Eve references

I think we all had the thought that devil fruits are the apple in that story

[brittle basin]

Imu eating the forbidden fruit

get new material oda

[ashen perch]

its not a Devil Fruit but it could be THE Devil Fruit

[pulsar path]

Lmao next arc copy the Bible

[shadow vault]

So joyboy is adam then?

[muted hedge]

this would definitely be the absolute devil fruit out of all devil fruits then

[shadow vault]

While sungod nika is the real god?

[pulsar path]

Imu could be Adam

[pulsar path]

This tho

[shadow vault]

Nah imu is a just a corporate slave that reincarnated to one Piece world

[pulsar path]

Damn

Imu is just the guy form oda one shot who got the pen from God

[brittle basin]

Imu removes the veil and it's just Oda's face.

fitting

[shadow vault]

Foreshadowing oda is imu 😰

[muted hedge]

why does he have chains in his mouth?

[brittle basin]

for imu to hold

[wraith mantle]

Greenpath must be stopped bruh

[muted hedge]

wouldn't they be wrapped around his neck

[brittle basin]

it's attached to the leather lapdog collar

[muted hedge]

oh i see

[vale heath]

Harald really did do this to himself

[haughty saddle]

It’s to demonstrate even more servility than would be otherwise portrayed with merely a chain on his neck

You’ve never heard the saying that someone is holding their own leash?

[muted hedge]

probably sometime

[shadow vault]

When you have Harald as a fren who need enemies

[brittle basin]

"I told you so." - Rocks

[muted hedge]

he literally did, word by word

that's the sad part

[shadow vault]

😞

He shoulndt pull that horn now he has brain damage

[urban lodge]

Rocks didn't tell him shit

Don't skull emoji me

[muted hedge]

what do you mean

[urban lodge]

Did he tell him about Imu? Did he tell them that they're demons?

[shadow vault]

Buddy he told that bald headed king about making them WG slave

[frigid gulch]

Rocks was teaching him a lesson

“Find out for yourself”

[bleak plover]

I'm friends with criminals and yet I wouldn't take their word for what's good or isn't.

[shadow vault]

that stupid king also see with his own eyes how the WG treat slave and he also see how god knight treat him

[bleak plover]

Rocks saying "WG bad" amounts to a hockey player saying "darts suck".

[vestal mural]

Am I said criminal

[bleak plover]

Perchance.

[muted hedge]

to be fair the God Knights were awfully nice to Harald

well... except for Shanks

[brittle basin]

How much did Harald know about the slave ship he ran into that belonged to the WG?

[final trench]

Literally

[tranquil blade]

Well he knew it was from the WG

[final trench]

He told this nigga that they would make him and his people slaves and soliders and thats literally what imu is trying to do 😭

[rose rune]

everything, including building date and how much it cost

Harald is a boat nerd, much like car nerds

[brittle basin]

the worst nerds

[shadow vault]

Yeah cant deny that too even when shamrock came to elbaph gunko asked her did he wanted to visit Harald grave

[urban lodge]

"They want to use you for your military might"
Oh, so the same thing Rocks wanted from him, got it

[brittle basin]

Rocks was honest about it

[final trench]

^^

[urban lodge]

Yeah, but look at it from Harald's perspective

[brittle basin]

But even Ida did not care for Rocks, but it was only in one sentence and is easily missed

[urban lodge]

That's what everyone fails to do

[final trench]

He let him know upfront aye man you got the power to destroy to stop this madness

[tranquil blade]

Of course Ida didnt care for Rocks, the guy goes around blowing stuff up and stealing

[brittle basin]

I think Harald did not take things Rocks said seriously because 1. He was desperate to get in with the WG 2. Rocks was a criminal in his eyes 3. Ida did not speak highly about Rocks and he loves Ida.

[final trench]

“He’s a criminal”

Yet he never wronged herald
Treated this man for respect
Never forced this man to do anything, he just asked

[shadow vault]

The things is Harald was too blinded by his ego and naive he didnt mind his own Freinds word, HELL they already share so much bond between them

[urban lodge]

Stabbed his child

[final trench]

Also we’re literally introduced in heralds backstory of him fucking up countries so please save the criminal talk for someone else

[final trench]

His child that tried to fight him?

Twice

[urban lodge]

5 year old btw

[brittle basin]

I will admit it's strange that Harald called him his closest friend too. I would personally think you would trust a friend like that.

[final trench]

Now loki’s a regular 5 year old

[shadow vault]

Even Harald regret when xebec died he didnt came to join him instead man keep screaming I will be your slave

To the wg

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/okay-rodney-dangerfield-gif-10919703

[urban lodge]

As if Rocks is a regular guy

[muted hedge]

yeah, which makes sense now

[tranquil blade]

5 year old Loki is not a threat to Xebec

Let's be real honest here

[brittle basin]

we should make this a penny command

[shadow vault]

Shamrock is good agenda? I'm with that

[final trench]

Nigga killed a big ass wolf as a toddler

Beat beasts similar to the ones luffy faced at amazon lily

We are we treating him as a regular kid

[urban lodge]

I just say this when people try to portray his as a perfect angel incapable of doing anything wrong

[final trench]

It wasnt about him being a threat, its just a lesson

[urban lodge]

Why are we treating Rocks as a regular guy?

Was that his ONLY option?

[final trench]

I never said rocks is a regular guy

[brittle basin]

well for Rocks he hurt Loki in that initial confrontation to force Harald to come back home

[muted hedge]

the build up to some sort of redemption is certainly there. we also saw him care more about Shanks wounds healing rather than catching the one who freed Fisher Tiger.

[urban lodge]

Ok so why does Loki being an abnormal kid matter?

[final trench]

You’re acting like loki is a regular 5 year old kid as if he isnt an ancient giant

[brittle basin]

the second time he stabbed him and that was way more egregious

[final trench]

Because he can take the attack

[urban lodge]

Bruh

[final trench]

Loki was already hurt

He tried to kill himself

[hazy turret]

Ask people if stabbing a 5’8 11 year old is okay

[final trench]

Rocks told him to call herald

He said no and tried to swing on him

[thick mango]

It's one piece world not real life he's fine. He doesn't seem to care he goes on to idolize rocks

[brittle basin]

Now, granted, Loki did kind of tank the attack. He was injured though, but nothing too bad. Any normal human would've been obliterated to atoms.

[final trench]

Literally

[thick mango]

In one piece world you can be personally carrying a bomb away from the city and live

Getting stabbed is like getting flicked in the nose

[final trench]

Loki was taming and killing literal BEAST as a child

[hazy turret]

So it’s okay to beat up kids if they can survive it

[final trench]

And survived a fall from the sun realm (?) all the way to the underworld

Holy yap

[brittle basin]

i'm not too concerned with that first Rocks attack. The stabbing is hilariously wild though.

[final trench]

He didnt beat up loki, it was just 1 hit everytime

[mental lake]

Neither did Saul

[brittle basin]

and after, don't forget to send them back to the chimneys and dock their pay that week for talking back

[final trench]

Loki started BOTH of these “fights” btw

[shadow vault]

Don't bring real life logic lol even a child in real life could even Murder a grown ass man

[hazy turret]

Lol so?????

[mental lake]

Harald probably would’ve been cooked if the wg found out that he was keeping a criminal like Saul on his island

[urban lodge]

Op fans really are something else

[tranquil blade]

Nicest childhood in the industrial revolution

[thick mango]

You're applying too much of a real life standard to this fantasy world

[dense haven]

we never saw rocks hurting a normal human js

[final trench]

Yall are tryna humanize an anicent giant

[hazy turret]

So instead of trying to dodge and defend

[final trench]

Oh my goodness

[dense haven]

meanwhile garling...

[final trench]

Dodging and defending wont stop loki from attacking

[brittle basin]

he probably hurt people at that corrupt organization. but they deserved it

[mental lake]

Not to mention Saul was literally teaching a school based off of the banned Ohara texts

[urban lodge]

Rocks is one of the strongest people on the planet

[final trench]

He’ll just keep attaxking

[urban lodge]

Bro

[thick mango]

And yet loki is perfectly fine. So he must have been appropriately holding back.

[wraith mantle]

Rocks is evil discourse again 💔

[urban lodge]

That's not what this is

[shadow vault]

Xebec already attacked him and still loki ideolize him its done.

[hazy turret]

I get it, stabbing him was the only way then

[thick mango]

Rocks might be evil but not for hitting loki that's barely anything

[tranquil blade]

I dont know if I would use "perfectly fine" after he got stabbed

[wraith mantle]

Oh what’s the convo then

[brittle basin]

Rocks most evil desire - unless he meant it for good, somehow - was the desire to take Imu's place

[shadow vault]

So if child loki killing a normal human its okay then yeah?

What logic is that

[tranquil blade]

Maybe the first time around when he like hit him in his knee or whatever

[final trench]

Im saying they act he like amputated bro

[thick mango]

Is he disfigured? Did he not survive? Does he still struggle today with his wound?

[shadow vault]

Child giant loki was the first one to swing his weapon to xebec

[thick mango]

No. He's perfectly fine

[urban lodge]

Just if this specific thing is a bad thing, him stabbing children

(yes)

[wraith mantle]

I see

[dense haven]

loki survive a fall bigger than kaidos jumps and still killed a bear and climbed back up at 1 minute old why are people treating him like a porcelain doll

[hazy turret]

I don’t know why we have to defend rocks for this instead of saying “yeah that was fucked up, but he’s not supposed to be a good guy”

[thick mango]

It's bad sure but barely bad

[final trench]

Thank you

Like are we serious

[hazy turret]

Why are people treating a child like a child

[shadow vault]

We didnt even say hes a good guy lol

[brittle basin]

What do we think Oda wants us to take away from all this about Rocks and Loki?

[urban lodge]

It's ok to beat up children if they don't die from it

[final trench]

This child could murder this whole server with 1 swing

[tranquil blade]

Okay so if I stab you hypothetically, but you dont have a permanent injury from it even though you nearly bled out, that's perfectly fine?

[dense haven]

that child is older than you rokaya

[urban lodge]

And Rocks can kill admirals and destroy the gates of justice

[shadow vault]

Its just kinda fucked bringing real life logic to this fantasy world full of pirate and giant child

[thick mango]

If it was a fantasy world where everyone has mega durability and I started the fight, yeah

[mental lake]

How do yall feel about jorul attacking the rampaging linlin

[shadow vault]

Which that child could crush a normal human

[final trench]

He wasnt trying against loki

[final trench]

^^^^

[hazy turret]

Forgot how giant ages work ^

[final trench]

Child loki is fucking up all of pre timeskip

[dense haven]

what if I told you giants aren't real

[final trench]

This man was beating up beast comparable to the ones luffy was fighting on amazon lily

[thick mango]

Harald shoulda disciplined loki better maybe he wouldn't be picking fights with dangerous strangers

[urban lodge]

Rocks walked up to him the first time

[final trench]

Rocks didnt start a fight

He told him to call herald

[wraith mantle]

I wonder if harald knew about Estrid throwing Loki out the window

[brittle basin]

use real life logic when it benefits your argument. but also, ignore real life logic when it doesn't benefit your argument.

[shadow vault]

Nah hes to busy licking WG ass

[tranquil blade]

I dont think anyone ever told him

[stone terrace]

At the barest of minimums if you absolutely insist that rocks is evil, you must acknowledge that oda is displaying him as the lesser of two

You're fighting the story otherwise

[brittle basin]

Rocks is chaotic

[urban lodge]

It's not even about that, it's just if attacking children is bad

[dense haven]

50/50 he doesn't have the spine to confront her

[final trench]

“He walked up on him” alright so i can pop off on any nigga who walk up on me ?

#fairs

[brittle basin]

So, Estrid, Ida, Rocks, and Harald are all going to be dead by next chapter.

[tranquil blade]

Yeah he's less evil than the literal devil who is responsible for hundreds of years of slavery, discrimination and genocides

I can agree with that

[wraith mantle]

Maybe Loki is cursed fr

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/say-that-again-gif-968943876633031890

[shadow vault]

Well even rock himself tell that he wanted to free the world

[urban lodge]

He did NOT say that

[thick mango]

It's less bad to attack children in this world where everyone has insane durability. It's like....I dunno.. littering? Not returning your grocery cart. Sure it's bad but everything's gonna be fine it's not the end of the world

[wraith mantle]

He’s less evil than most op villains so far

Maybe even all of them

[dense haven]

also attacking children is something common even garp is supposed to be a role model

[trim lily]

i mean yeah rocks isnt a villain

[wraith mantle]

Harald called him a villain tho

[urban lodge]

See this is the problem of his portrayal. He might not be evil but he was so wholesome chungus-fied that people legitimately think he's a good guy

[trim lily]

is that before or after he called him his bestie

[thick mango]

Rocks never uses any language that indicates he cares about liberating people. It's never "free the world", always "rule the world"

[wraith mantle]

Is that mutually exclusive?

[brittle basin]

Harald also doesn't have all the information we have with its context

[wraith mantle]

That’s true

[brittle basin]

We'll never truly know how bad Rocks could've been unless we saw him dethrone Imu. But his desire to rule should at least bring his character into question.

[trim lily]

oda has unfortunately given enough reasonable doubt to think it wouldnt have been for purely selfish reasons

[wraith mantle]

The reason why he wants to rule will clear this up

[trim lily]

he didnt really expand on the whole ruling the world thing

[wraith mantle]

BB flashback waiting room

[tranquil blade]

The guy is not as evil as I thought he would be but I would not consider him a "good" guy

[bleak plover]

Didn't the "worst criminal ever, pillager, murderer, violent maniac" part bring his character into question laready?

[brittle basin]

The only way we can get that now is via BB, 'cause maybe Eris told him something.

[wraith mantle]

Yup

[ashen perch]

well actually Harald knows the same things we do on this lol, he calls him that because he is running around with a gallery of rogues, leaving countries, towns and ports in ruin

[brittle basin]

I think that part gets brought up a lot but then everyone questions it because the only thing we ever see him and his crew do is target a corrupt organization.

[dense haven]

evil ports and towns

innocent until proven otherwise

[brittle basin]

Rocks seems to hate authority, especially corrupt authority.

[ashen perch]

lol

[shadow vault]

So Xebec saying he trying to bring down the holy land and etc is not freeing the world?

[urban lodge]

No?????

[trim lily]

man this wouldnt be so annoying to discuss if that werent the case

[brittle basin]

But he could've just been a monster and all those places were innocent and they hurt everyone there.

[urban lodge]

He wants to rule himself brother

[ashen perch]

more like under new management

lol

[thick mango]

If oda wanted me to take the intro list of crimes seriously he shoulda given me at least a couple examples. Quick montage only woulda taken like 2-4 pages of him being evil, hurting the weak, etc.
But without examples I'm not sure how seriously to take it. Or how much of it is propaganda

[shadow vault]

Also this stupid giant literally see how the damn CD treated him

[wraith mantle]

Freeing the world of Imu’s tyranny before he enacts his own flavour of tyranny

[urban lodge]

Rocks really is the worst thing to ever happen to this fanbase

[dense haven]

instead he did the complete opposite

[urban lodge]

What a dogshit character

[ashen perch]

Harald is okay with his own suffering, thats who he is

[brittle basin]

we get the corrupt organization panels and then the narrator immediately saying he did all this other bad stuff. It leaves you to question things.

[final trench]

Holy cope

[shadow vault]

Hell atleast this guy wont kill an entire race because he has a D name 😭

[mental lake]

Either you a Harald fan or you baiting

[shadow vault]

And uniq bloodline

[final trench]

Nigga mad nobody gaf about bumko

[rose rune]

zoro's dad btw

[final trench]

Actual imu vessel

[wraith mantle]

Maybe he will
He did destroy ports and towns

[bleak plover]

Are you missing the part where he's being blamed for what Rocks did?

[trim lily]

its actually funny how consistently people will go to slandering gunko when penny insults rocks

[urban lodge]

Yeah lol

[shadow vault]

He destroy the port and town that filled with corruption the one where its used as money laundering

[final trench]

They still want him as a slave, and want to stuff him

[thick mango]

The panels you shared are a prefect example. He doesn't say "free the world." He says "rule the world"
There's not a single sentence in those panels that suggests he has altruistic liberating motives.

[shadow vault]

Did you guys read or speedreading

[trim lily]

i never read personally

[wraith mantle]

Penny allows trolls to influence his opinion on a character

[urban lodge]

Khalid

[mental lake]

You wear a pfp of your favorite character then it’s gonna be a target when you talk 🤷‍♂️

[urban lodge]

People are not trolling

[bleak plover]

He was already threading on nails when he snuck (how) into Mary Geoise.

[rose rune]

my mom usually retells what she read, but with a bit of flare and theatrics

[urban lodge]

They really think Rocks is some noble revolutionary

[dense haven]

attacking children is a problem irl because children are not physically capable of matching an adult, that doesn't apply to one piece regardless of how you wanna label loki as a child

[ashen perch]

Did leaving Loki in a heap of blood as WB shouts at him disapprovingly not count as being evil and hurting the weak(er)?

[rose rune]

since I can't read

[wraith mantle]

I think people troll a bit when they see you get this animated over this lol

[brittle basin]

He might have. I just don't know; it's almost too conenient we don't get to see them. Hell, he was so honorable (if that's even the right word for this) that he got his crew through Davy Back Fights (brutal fights, but honorable I believe). The only places we visually see Rocks target are Marijoa and the corrupt organization. The rest is just "he did this and that and they were all crimes [supposedly]).

[mental lake]

Like a parrot saying what it’s heard

[dense haven]

then why oda doesn't show rocks doing evil things? it's that simple

[tranquil blade]

because he's a hack

[barren token]

Bruh

[bleak plover]

Attacking children is a problem because the world tries to stop me.

[barren token]

We need to end rocks morality discourse

[bleak plover]

https://tenor.com/view/haru-urara-haru-urara-punch-uma-gif-3671877342466542406

[final trench]

The most evil we know that rocks did was kidnap kings and destroy a miscellaneous country

[brittle basin]

But I don't think Rocks had ultimately good intention. I really think him ruling from the Empty Throne would not have been good.

[ashen perch]

also this is far from the only time we're going to see Xebec anyways, youre going to see more of him and more of this.

[thick mango]

Eh i dunno I'm not really moved by the loki stuff. It's a very minor thing to me. 95% of pirates would react the same way

[final trench]

Imu has been oppressing niggas for 800 years

[barren token]

People either argue Rocks is Satan incarnate or fucking superman

[final trench]

Miss me with allat

[mental lake]

Flip a coin rocks morality discourse or wg morality discourse 💀

[brittle basin]

Speaking as a fan of Satan, I don't think Rocks is that.

[final trench]

Rocks is a grey area and im fine with that but yall go to crazy lengths to try to act like he had no good in him

[dense haven]

no proof they were innocents

[final trench]

Yall fell for WG propaganda so cope with it

[shadow vault]

The one we know is he destroy a city that filled with corruption and moneh laundering

[serene plume]

I don't agree with this

[tranquil blade]

Talking about Rocks like he rose from the dead and turned water into wine, like cmon man

[serene plume]

Not the loki part

That you're right on

[barren token]

Can i ask why you want rocks to be a saint

[brittle basin]

Usually the narrator boxes are to be trusted right? But for all I know that narrator box for Rocks' exploits are the WG propaganda against him.

[wraith mantle]

Yeah both interpretations are valid imo we just simply need more info

[barren token]

Why are you so keen on painting rocks as jesus christ

[serene plume]

Are you telling me a child cannot defend themselves against a fully grown man who is 5'4 spice

[brittle basin]

BB backstory when Oda?

[barren token]

He can do some fucked up shit

As a treat

[mental lake]

It’s so vague that we have no idea if those kings were tyrants or not

[dense haven]

because I read the manga cunky

[barren token]

Lol

Spice can I ask again

[brittle basin]

Again, Rocks is chaotic good at best. But I would never call him evil.

[barren token]

Why do you want Rocks to be superman

[urban lodge]

Just scroll up

[mental lake]

Agreed

[final trench]

For the sake of the argument we can assume they wear idm to me

Rocks was tryna take out a far greater evil

[ashen perch]

If Oda didnt want for it to portray him especially negatively, he wouldnt have the better person in the room express complete disapproval of it. He wouldnt have the narrator call him psychotic for the first time he did that too. You are not supposed to disagree with WB, Oda is wanting you to take this completely seriously.

[dense haven]

I'm not gonna clutch my pearls over hypothetical evil things rocks might have done

[barren token]

Spice

[frigid gulch]

Demon Rocks is the most evil Rocks you’ll get

[dense haven]

oda went out of his way to show rocks doing the complete opposite

[mental lake]

People saying rocks is evil incarnate or the devil fell for wg propaganda

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/sussa-gif-5432297967573209335

[barren token]

Rocks is not evil incarnate

[wraith mantle]

would rocks stab a human baby?

[urban lodge]

Stop steering the conversation away from what it was originally about

[thick mango]

Rocks being less bad than we expected doesn't mean he's good. He doesn't seem to have altruistic motives in taking down the gov. Y'all realized the propaganda was lies but immediately got decieved by rocks' charisma. Went from one skewed view to another

[urban lodge]

Not a single person is saying Rocks is satan incarnate

[barren token]

He was also a notorious pirate

[urban lodge]

The conversation was - is stabbing 5 year olds bad?

[ashen perch]

I dont think Xebec is satan incarnate, but he is not good

[final trench]

But im not surprised people look at rocks like this because alotta these mfs are bootlickers

[barren token]

Obviously what rocks did to Loki was fucked up

[brittle basin]

But Rocks is not a benevolent person. Just a man on a mission who will do whatever it takes to see that mission through. However, you can't excuse him stabbing Loki. And it is possible he only targeted what could be seen as questionable locales as he seemed to have an anti-authoritarian bent (which is ironic, 'cause he may have become authoritarian should he have killed Imu).

[latent hamlet]

He probably wouldnt go out of his way to do that

But he's not gonna cry about it if he does

[final trench]

Loki is not a regular 5 year old

Thats the problem

[mental lake]

Then I ask you was jorul fighting rampaging Linlin bad

[urban lodge]

Rocks is not a regular guy

[final trench]

And you wanna dance around that so thats why the convo turned into something else

[barren token]

But for some reason Rocks fans are obsessed with making him the goodest boy on the high seas spreading joy and merriment to all

[dense haven]

luffy is also a notorious pirate and sure as hell luffy is branded as one of the most dangerous terrorists

[thick mango]

Well he failed for me. Maybe this is one of the outcomes of a string of grevious and even apparently fatal wounds having no consequences whatsoever

[urban lodge]

She was on a rampage killing people and burning everything down

You can't remove the context

[barren token]

They want rocks to be boring

[final trench]

Nobody said rocks was, but you keep tryna say “stabbing 5 year olds” as if loki isnt an anicent giant

[barren token]

Squeaky clean

Sickens me

[dense haven]

who are they

[barren token]

you

[urban lodge]

No that is what you're trying to say

[final trench]

Loki tried to attack rocks twice

You leave that out

[brittle basin]

wasn't it only once?

[dense haven]

the manga is right there go argue with oda

[brittle basin]

there was a second?

[frigid gulch]

Even though it doesn’t make it right. I think those instances of him beating on Loki had some context and from what it seems like, he didn’t really continue doing that

[barren token]

See?

[urban lodge]

Yeah Rocks attacked him twice

[final trench]

Loki attacked rocks twice**

[urban lodge]

One time he left him bleeding on the ground

[final trench]

He started both altercations

[mental lake]

My point is that both children aren’t normal children by any means . Heck context states that Loki started those fights

[timber glacier]

I think oda changed rocks in the flashback to be more likeable

[barren token]

Even when the manga has him do bad things spice is so desperate for rocks to be a superhero he just justifies it himself.

[final trench]

You also leave that out

[brittle basin]

the first time clearly had context. not good context, but context nonetheless. the stabbing was just Loki asking to join him. I guess Rocks stabbed him 'cause he annoyed Rocks? I'd need to see the panel again though.

[urban lodge]

And is Rocks normal? Was attacking him his only option?

[final trench]

Loki said he would fight rocks

[dense haven]

are the bad things in the room with us rn

[barren token]

Yeah

[ashen perch]

Did he fail? everyone agreed that it was a horrible thing to do when the chapter came out, you are only being influenced by a bit of focus on his humane side without seeing the two sides to him.

[barren token]

The big one being what he did with loki

[brittle basin]

oh really? shit I really need that panel again.

[frigid gulch]

The first time, in addition to Loki trying to attack him, that was Rocks’ plan for getting Harald to come quickly. Second time, Loki challenged him and he was probably irritated by Loki constantly pestering him

[thick mango]

Scroll up there's not at all unanimous agreement it's horrible

[frigid gulch]

But it doesn’t make it right still

In the end

[vale heath]

https://tenor.com/view/rotate-gif-25402076

[barren token]

What rocks did with Loki is cool is cool that he's fine with just going to town on a child because he wants his dad to show up

[muted hedge]

i enjoyed seeing Loki and Xebec talk with eachother without punting eachother

[dense haven]

I guess garp must be literal satan then

[frigid gulch]

Rocks didn’t seem to continue beating him up though in every encounter

[final trench]

Then it wouldve been “oh my god he slammed a 5 year old”

[urban lodge]

Why can't people just admit it's bad, no one is saying Rocks is Satan, why is that so hard

[barren token]

Garp is also not squeaky clean

[leaden rivet]

Whether he’s a “good” guy or not, he’s a character I think the story wants you to root for

[ashen perch]

I know, its not a failure of the author if the reader is the one purposefully ignoring these things

[ocean sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/sneaky-spongebob-gif-5690076

[brittle basin]

Ah OK. I thought it was more innocent than that the second time. If Loki straight up attacked him, I could see someone saying it's Rocks teaching him a harsh lesson, but even that is brought into question since Loki is still pretty young at that point.

[mental lake]

Jorul nor any of the other giants sent to attack linlin are normal either yet you justify their attack

[final trench]

Defending yourself from an ancient giant child isnt bad

[urban lodge]

Yeah because you're ignoring the context

[final trench]

You defending jarul for attack big mom because she was wrecking shi, we’ve seen what loki is capable of

[urban lodge]

And it's not comparable to the Linlin situation

[final trench]

Stop the bullshit

[barren token]

This is how we're talking trying to get rocks to let us hit

[urban lodge]

Rocks is the one who walked up to Loki

[barren token]

He won't let you hit man

[urban lodge]

And was very unreasonable

[final trench]

????

[thick mango]

I'm in a weird middle ground here where I think rocks is evil but I still don't think attacking loki is that bad. It's bad but not horrible. It's normal for the world. Loki ended up perfectly fine.

[dense haven]

garp beating up luffy has never been brought up as something bad until recently

[final trench]

How is asking him to call his dad unreasonable

[mental lake]

Do you not understand that child Loki was and can cause that same damage

[final trench]

Are you laced?

[ashen perch]

he would hit you with a sword attack that blasts everything in sight so theres that

[barren token]

Rocks literally did that and laughed, he didn't do it to defend himself he did it so harold would come back

[muted hedge]

this was amazing

[urban lodge]

He said the answer better be yes

[shadow vault]

People forgot about jarul trying to kill child linlin 😭😭😭😭

[barren token]

Why are one piece fans like that

[wraith mantle]

and harald did come back like a good boy

[hazy turret]

Neither has the sexualization of Rebecca

[shadow vault]

And child linlin killed jorul and her entire freind 😭

[hazy turret]

Or Bonney or york etc etc

[frigid gulch]

Honestly I don’t condone either but in this meeting at least, he was chilling with him. Rocks even said to Loki “Youre back again” implying he asked before

[ashen perch]

totally normal thing to say to a child who hadnt even done anything aside from saying his name yet

[barren token]

Garp is a dogshit parent we know this lol

[dense haven]

very relevant rokaya thank you

[frigid gulch]

Rocks didn’t beat him up all the time

[ashen perch]

this is a well adjusted human being, surely

totally not a psychopath

[urban lodge]

How is what he's capable of relevant? He didn't do that. Rocks is capable of killing admirals and destroying the gates of justice, attacking the child was not his only option

[hazy turret]

Make smarter arguments next time

[barren token]

Rocks is a little fucked up you need to let go of your agenda piece brain that forces you to glaze characters to pointless levels

[final trench]

Loki was basically wounded he tried to kill himself

[hazy turret]

bro

[brittle basin]

Well, as bad as it was, it's clear Loki didn't give a damn about getting his ass beat nor stabbed lol. Doesn't make it any better, but I can understand the context of Loki being pestering.

[barren token]

You don't need to defend what rocks did to Loki you can say haha that was fucked up Rocks is so cool

[final trench]

He literally jumped down to the underworld yk that rifht?

[frigid gulch]

Read my other messages first

[leaden rivet]

defending yourself from an ancient giant child isn’t bad

Rocks is a yonko level character and arguably the strongest in the series after Imu, kid Loki is in no way a threat to him

[ashen perch]

read the next page

[brittle basin]

You talking about Sb?

[ashen perch]

he isnt talking about his injuries from the fall

he is talking about the injuries he is about to inflict on him

all Loki had done by this point is say his name

[barren token]

Every other Rocks fan it feels like

[frigid gulch]

Yep but Loki is also a depressed child. Rocks saved him from that so he won’t hold it against him

But it’s still not okay ofc

[final trench]

“Unreasonable”

[brittle basin]

madman is a very interesting choice of word honestly

[leaden rivet]

Why do people try to defend him so vehemently on this, it’s like the only bad thing he did anyway

[muted hedge]

Xebec is great, but i agree some people are taking the glazing a bit too far

[ashen perch]

Tae

theres a sequence of things

[final trench]

Show the whole sequence then

[urban lodge]

Is him being grey not enough? People want so bad to portray him as fucking Jesus Christ

[barren token]

Brother how do you see rocks acting like this and think he did it for self defence

[shadow vault]

So if rock ain't yonkou level and just a man with normal power level, loki is justified to kick his ass? Hell even loki could probably killed xebec

[ashen perch]

YOU CAN SEE THE SEQUENCE BY YOURSELF

[muted hedge]

some crackhead on twitter was using Xebec to slander Kuma, lol

[final trench]

You’re the same mf who claimed joyboy jumped imu so i shouldnt even be entertaining this but fuck it

[ashen perch]

what does that have to do with it, read the panels in sequence

[brittle basin]

It's hard not to love Rocks simply due to the power and charisma and anti-WG determination in spite of any wrongdoing.

[urban lodge]

Asking Rocks fans to read...

[frigid gulch]

Rocks is the goodest man in the history of the series

[barren token]

When a 5 year old comes up to me.and says he's gonna beat me.up so I beat him within an inch of his life for.self.defense

[leaden rivet]

No I’m saying claiming it’s self defense is just ridiculous if rocks was a regular dude and Loki ran up on him it’s different

[frigid gulch]

[wraith mantle]

tae5 are you fr or is this a bit? lol

[final trench]

Because loki swung on rocks right after this

[ashen perch]

Tae he said this before Loki had done anything

[frigid gulch]

The Loki thing is one thing

But I ain’t falling for the narrator

[final trench]

He told loki to tell someone to contact herald and say loki was hurt

[brittle basin]

No, Rocks had no need to defend himself against young Loki. There would be zero competition when Rocks can go toe-to-toe with Harald.

[final trench]

How is this bad or threatening

[ashen perch]

Oh my god

[urban lodge]

Gravely wounded

Which he wasn't

[dense haven]

how many 5yo you know that can survive a 50 story fall, kill a bear and climb back up?

[wraith mantle]

yeah hes a pretty cool character, too bad we didn't get the whole package due to bb flashback, but i am happy with what we got for now

[muted hedge]

the bad part comes after when Loki decides not to do that and Xebec just ravages him instead

[final trench]

He had just fell to the underworld

[ashen perch]

He wasnt talking about his current injuries, why do you keep ignoring this

[urban lodge]

And he wasn't gravely wounded

Wounded yes, gravely no

[barren token]

My god

Its actually impossible huh

[thick mango]

Rocks actions re child loki aren't understandable self defense. They aren't really justified for a good person to do. They are on the evil side for sure.
I guess I just disagree in degree. This isn't like some horrible horrible outlier compared to the normal everyday wrongs of a pirate career

[deep chasm]

its just the difference in self defense vs doing too much. If a 10 year old hits you, are you gonna beat the kid up? probably not cuz its not an actual threat to you. if someone were a threat to you it warrants more action but not if that person is 0 threat to you

[dense haven]

I know it's hard to stick to facts

[ashen perch]

there isnt even any self defense here

[hazy turret]

Man those eyes really are fucked up

[muted hedge]

i think Oda wanted to show that Xebec was on his own redemption story when he got his own family to care for

that's when he got more softer

[haughty saddle]

Rocks Loki discourse day 208

The lines haven’t moved. We’re dying in these trenches.

With Christmas so soon?

[muted hedge]

first when we saw Xebec he was a ruffian by all means, but then later he mellowed out mostly by Eris and Teech being a part of the equation

[haughty saddle]

We can only pray for the release of death

[barren token]

You're unpleasant to talk to

[ashen perch]

he was gonna attack him, he took one look at him and thought "yea I am gonna attack him, he is probably Harald's kid"

[urban lodge]

Spice is probably trolling, the problem is the others aren't

[shadow vault]

But the things is my guy that kid is a giant and were using a real life logic for that

[leaden rivet]

Rocks is not good enough of a character to warrant this dickriding

[olive sigil]

Hello everyone,

As some of you may know, I have been playing a game the past few months about one piece called the One Piece Survivor Game. After more than 5 months, we finally gave the title to our friend Redbei @stray prism. This means that the game shall start its third season as of next chapter and you’re all free to join in. Champion gets a free drawing by me.

So here’s the concept of the game: each week, for as long as it takes, you give me a character, any character that might be in the following chapter. If that chapter is in, you survive another week, if they’re not, you get eliminated. Each time you use a character, you can’t use it again for the remainder of the season so the game becomes harder and harder with each chapter that comes out.

Here are some ground rules:

1-You can only use a character once and never again for the remaining season.

2- I need your character given only after I’ve made the announcement of the results and asked for the character but the latest I can receive your character is Sunday 6pm EST. If you read spoilers, I need you to choose the character before they come out.

3- do not ask me about the results and tag me in any way before I’ve read the chapter. Even if you see me in chat, wait for the results to talk about the game.

4- for the character to be considered in the chapter, they need to appear in or be mentioned directly in the chapter, including the cover page, colour spread, cover story, cover request or shonen jump cover.
5- Imu possessing a character counts as both Imu and the character and you can use them both in different rounds. Other instances of characters who may share different characters in 1 can be separated into different ways. For example Mosa can be used as well as shirahoshi to get the points. Only named characters can be used in the game.

If anyone wants to play, just answer this message and confirm you’ve read the rules. Thank you for your time

[barren token]

Loki posed no threat to rocks lol

[muted hedge]

i don't think it should matter weither a kid is a giant or not

what matters is that it was a kid

[leaden rivet]

No it definitely matters

But only if rocks was just a regular guy

In this situation it doesn’t

[soft tangle]

[barren token]

Like the narration even calls him a mad man right after he does it

[final trench]

It doesnt matter?????

Oh my goodness

[barren token]

Like how are you confused

[leaden rivet]

I think he’s trolling

[muted hedge]

yes, it's still a kid at the end of the day

[urban lodge]

Ida thinks he's bad, that's all you need to know

[final trench]

This nigga killed a giant wolf as a toddler but it doesnt matter if he’s a giant or not

https://tenor.com/view/bernie-mac-smh-gif-27571314

[thick mango]

All I'm saying is the loki stuff isn't significantly worse than the narrator explanation of his crimes during his introduction. It's in line with them and provably is among the less bad things he's done

[shadow vault]

Um so if a giant kid comes up to you and try to beat you that could lead you to death so its okay? Yeah?

[barren token]

Do you need a little red box in the corner of every panel to let you know when a character is doing something bad

[leaden rivet]

Ida couldn’t tell the WG was bad tho

[distant vine]

People are so unserious about this

[barren token]

And a green one if they do something good

[haughty saddle]

If I’m the literal single most capable of violence person in the entire sea and a 30 foot tall 5 year old toddles up to me talking shit I’m not gonna hit him lmfao

[barren token]

Maybe it's not rocks glaze

Maybe it's rocks slander

[haughty saddle]

There is nothing Loki could have done to hurt Rocks

Nothing at all

[barren token]

And people think Loki actually posed any threat to rocks

[urban lodge]

I wish

[ashen perch]

lmao

[urban lodge]

But no, it's glaze

[haughty saddle]

No I don’t care about your stupid fucking real life thought experiment about a real toddler with a gun no I don’t care

If I was bulletproof and a toddler tried to shoot me I would let the toddler shoot me

[barren token]

Rocks was quaking in his boots when Loki rolled up on him man rocks knew he could have died right there and then

[final trench]

Who said anything about a toddler with a gun

[dense haven]

baby loki would win vs the hydrogen bomb

[barren token]

He had to act your honour

[deep chasm]

the kid is a giant and still 0 threat to Rocks. It doesnt matter if hes a giant if hes not threatening

[haughty saddle]

your honor, in Texas where I’m from, god bless my inbred line, if ANYONE and I mean ANYONE steps up to you!!! You have a right to stand your ground!!!! Castle doctrine baby!!! Raise hell praise dale!!!!

[urban lodge]

Rocks is a perfect angel who can do no wrong, poor guy had no other option at all, not like he's the 2nd strongest person on the planet at the time

He could have in no way dodged that

[digital spear]

I would take his gun and shoot him and his whole family for the love of the game

[haughty saddle]

It’s baked into the insistence of the premise

[barren token]

Rocks is like yc2 at best he has no shot against mid admiral baby Loki

[leaden rivet]

This is it

[wraith mantle]

wait yall agree rocks was the second strongest after imu?

i will take it

[deep chasm]

it doesnt matter if hes not a threat

[final trench]

Yes he couldve dodged, and then what? Loki just magically stops attacking

[thick mango]

It's true the dumb justifications that this was necessary, justified, or even good are making me wanna 180 from "not that bad". It was bad, people. Just not that bad

[haughty saddle]

Wholesome ☺️

[leaden rivet]

Maybe maybe not

[dense haven]

people getting so mad over a fictional kid who's capable of killing entire nations by himself

[barren token]

Bruh

[final trench]

What if he killed don marlon bruh

Then what

[haughty saddle]

We gotta put you in a vice

[final trench]

We gon let em slide?

[haughty saddle]

Yes Don Marlon is a pussy

Next question

[muted hedge]

Don Marlon died eitherway, plus he isn't a kid

[barren token]

Why am I letting myself be baited by this man...

[digital spear]

They gotta nerf me and Don Marlon

[haughty saddle]

This entire dumbfuck ameribrained line of thought dies the moment you actually think from rocks perspective. There is nothing the kid can do to hurt you. You DO know this. He DID know that.

[final trench]

Insanity

[urban lodge]

At least no one is pulling the MelonTee argument

[final trench]

Don fought for shakky

[ruby moat]

Toddlers should not be given firearms

[final trench]

What in the world is that

[digital spear]

MarlonTee

[hazy turret]

Not even gonna ask

[barren token]

Rocks literally laughs maniacally after he does it and the narration is like "wow this guys crazy" and we can still have this argument God bless one piece fans

[final trench]

Is that a previous user or is that an actual argument

[urban lodge]

She thinks Rocks actually attacked Loki to keep him safe because he's so wholesome chungus

[muted hedge]

the narration even called Xebec a madman at that point, lol

[haughty saddle]

Rocks WANTED to hurt the kid. He wanted to hurt a child for the purpose of using the child’s pain to get what he wanted

[final trench]

Ah ok its a user

[barren token]

This is spice

Melontee might actually be spices YouTube channel

[hazy turret]

It was self defense bro

[final trench]

Rocks used 0.000000000000000001% of his power btw

[haughty saddle]

IN THEE GREAT STATE OF TEX-IS, I HAVE MAH RIGHTS

[olive sigil]

@lofty fern, @hot cairn, @formal wagon, @fallen meteor, @sage temple

If you could please read the rules and confirm your inscription. You can also send me your first character for the game. I will be taking Harald

[barren token]

Showing how little of a threat Loki was?

[haughty saddle]

IF YEW STEP ON TEW MY PROPERTAY I HAVE THEE RIGHT TEW SHEWT YEW

RAWKS DID NUTHIN RAWNG

[muted hedge]

this has spiraled

[final trench]

He wasnt gonna kill him, but he wasnt gonna let him just attack

[thick mango]

Honestly I blame oda for creating a context where I had absolutely zero fear for lokis safety being stabbed by the strongest man in the world at the time. It's such a consequence free context that it doesn't register to me as especially serious

[ashen perch]

Even Xebec's death didnt stop these glaze sessions, this is gonna continue for years

when the anime gets there, its gonna restart all over again

[haughty saddle]

That’s not how Rock’s mindset is portrayed in that moment at all

[ruby moat]

Rocks beat up a little kid and it didn’t even accomplish what he wanted

[haughty saddle]

That’s just headcanon cope tbh

[barren token]

And he was going to laugh maniacally after he did?

[thick mango]

The price of 20 fake out deaths is I don't care when someone gets stabbed or exploded

They're fine

[haughty saddle]

Rocks wanted to hit a big toddler lmao

[ashen perch]

??

thats such a silly way to look at it lol

[muted hedge]

i think this was Odas intention in a strange way, he knew that once he introduced Xebec the fandom would cling onto the character for years to come given how great the character is and how much it absolutely spoonfeeds the powerscalers too for example

[hazy turret]

Rocks wanted to hurt the child to ragebait his friend

[deep chasm]

considering rocks also got angry at loki for challenging him I think rocks isnt exactly a saint guys

[haughty saddle]

LITERALLY

EXPLICITLY

[soft tangle]

SAY TROLL

[ruby moat]

The towns were evil

[hazy turret]

W Rocks W Ragebait W Speed

[barren token]

Rocks cured my mother's cancer do not fucking shit talk rocks

[muted hedge]

what kind of rocks?

[hazy turret]

Maybe next year

[haughty saddle]

That baby should have read up on castle doctrine

[ashen perch]

yeah, he took one look at the child and made up his mind that he was gonna hurt the child, this is when Loki had just calmly stated his name to Xebec lol

[thick mango]

Why? The reason violence is bad is because it's likely to lead to those kind of negative consequences. But I've been shown, time and time again, that there won't be those consequences. So it's not really that bad

[haughty saddle]

I know mah rights

[leaden rivet]

You promised you’d stop

[barren token]

A big large one that caved her head in so the cancer didn't have a body to grow in anymore

[muted hedge]

damn

[hazy turret]

Rocks read up on some child punishment laws before showing up to elbaf

[barren token]

What the HELL are you talking about

[urban lodge]

Delete Rocks

[barren token]

That's a whole different argument that doesn't even apply.to Loki'l

[hazy turret]

Old habits die hard

[leaden rivet]

Tae Rage baited the entire chat and then just went on his way

[ruby moat]

GUYS the towns were EVIL

[muted hedge]

why?

[ashen perch]

man I dont think anyone thought Loki was gonna die in that moment, unless the flashback suddenly diverged into an alternative timeline

[soft tangle]

Trolled*

[leaden rivet]

9/10 performance

[urban lodge]

Just look at this chat

[barren token]

You didn't need 20 previous fake out deaths to know Loki (the guy telling the flashback) was gonna survive

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/shush-pope-heyward-outer-banks-silence-don't-talk-gif-14214119171744341995

[dense haven]

I thought op fans arguing irl physics was bad enough but this is a whole new level

[final trench]

Visiting family at the hospital im bored as shit im ngl pimp

[thick mango]

The impact of violence is undermined overall

[final trench]

Can I rank up now

[barren token]

"And that's how I died" - Loki

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/byuntear-cachorro-sorrindo-dog-smiling-gif-27642513

[hazy turret]

Schrödinger's ragebait
If people agree with me then I’m winning
If people are against me then it’s ragebait

[muted hedge]

Xebec is a great character, these sort of discourses spawn from almost every character

[haughty saddle]

We just call having dumbfuck opinions you don’t actually think about enough to back up ragebaiting

[ashen perch]

was gonna say

[soft tangle]

Trolling*

[ashen perch]

you were deadass lmao dont run now

[bleak plover]

https://tenor.com/view/hes-in-the-walls-in-the-walls-wall-muppet-panicking-gif-27546618

[deep chasm]

😭

[haughty saddle]

It’s not 2014 wake up

[final trench]

But as real as i can be

He defending himself against a ancient giant character

I do not think rocks is super nice or good because at the end of the day he was one of the most craziest pirates

And uhh yeah

[soft tangle]

Damn uncle

[final trench]

Who running???

Holup holup

Niggas must got me confused

[wraith mantle]

kinda wild to see it in real time lol

[final trench]

Im at the hospital rn im not running from shit, nada, zilch

[soft tangle]

They don’t know Detroit’s Finest

[ashen perch]

trying to act like its ragebait is...

[final trench]

On God they dont

[dull zenith]

would u guys kill a cub bear if it was coming after you

[barren token]

The impact isn't about the violence its about rocks being willing to just mirk a kid for his own gain

[final trench]

I didnt say it was,??

[haughty saddle]

Acting like you were playing is running

[dense marsh]

Is it true that one piece soon will catch a break so they can release dragon ball super season 2?

[final trench]

Someone else did

[tranquil blade]

No

[soft tangle]

I’d run

[urban lodge]

So just admit it's bad, it's really not hard

No, that doesn't make him the most evil character of all time, and no one is saying that

[ruby moat]

He wasn’t defending himself he was the aggressor

[dense marsh]

Someone answer me

[ashen perch]

alr

[barren token]

Is it mirk or merk

[haughty saddle]

Yes. Its capacity for violence is greater than mine. It has the capacity to hurt me more than I have the capacity to stop it from hurting myself and itself.

[muted hedge]

ask google

[ashen perch]

murk

[barren token]

Murk

[final trench]

I cant joke in r/onepiece now

Fairs

[barren token]

Kirk

[dense marsh]

Go ask it for me

[muted hedge]

no

[fallen meteor]

i'm in
my first character will be Jarul

[final trench]

Me sending the gif was the joke

But overall no i wasnt joking

[dense haven]

if ur weaker than a bear cub it's skill issue I'm afraid

[thick mango]

But to me because of how violence is undermined it registers like he tripped him or kicked him in the shin or slapped him or something. I don't see it as seriously as stabbing someone in a more realistic story with more reliable consequences

[final trench]

If a bear cub is near me im running because that means mama bear is lurking

And i aint tryna deal with that

[deep chasm]

being an acient giant would only be relevant if it made loki a threat to rocks which he wasnt

[haughty saddle]

The bear cub is stepping on you bro cmon

[muted hedge]

the mama bear has probably already caught you at that point

[haughty saddle]

You gotta teach him LMAO

Nah dude fight that mf

You gotta do the right thing and step

[final trench]

Aye man

[ashen perch]

the bear cub might as well be a stuffed toy in front of Xebec

[final trench]

If you wanna deal with mama bear go head

[dull zenith]

@haughty saddle The scarf react genuinely got a laugh out of me

good one

[final trench]

Ik my capabilities

I dont got that rocks strength rn

https://tenor.com/view/forrest-gump-running-me-when-im-late-tom-hanks-gif-5144739

[muted hedge]

bears are really fast

[olive sigil]

Good choice. You’re ok with the rules?

[barren token]

Ok man

[haughty saddle]

I’ll be here all week

Tip your waitress

[final trench]

True but i def can outrun a cub

Plus if i dont give him attention he’ll probably fuck off

I hope