also-manga

[thick mango]

Taking away specifics, do you think elbaf ends on-balance as a victory? Like if 0 is catastrophic failure and 10 is flawless victory where do you see elbaf? On this scale id give egghead like a 7

[ashen perch]

Escape is just repetitive, we did that just the last arc with essentially the same group of people

[wraith mantle]

If not escape then a full on war with Imu?

[sage temple]

So since Loki is here as someone who has expereince against the HKs and company, I think he'll do a fine job along with Luffy who'll probably learn from him

Also Loki and Luffy both have legendary fruits

[scarlet nacelle]

also there's not enough time for a training arc
tensions have reached a boiling point and shit is GOING to hit the fan incredibly soon
we cannot afford another timeskip

[sage temple]

Nobody on GV had a legendary fruit

[ashen perch]

I think Imu wrecks them but they barely manage to send him back anyways

[quiet ice]

Basically

[thick mango]

what lasting consequences if any?

[maiden smelt]

I hate how time never feels like it passes in op
Everything happens too fast

[thick mango]

i feel like a price has to be paid of some kind. It cant just be oh that was a really tough fight. Cause that just glazes the victory even more

[scarlet nacelle]

actually
interesting idea i just had
what if due to the problems in marie geoise (the same ones that led to shamrock being sent back) imu decides he's needed more at the holy land than in elbaf and he fucks off

[wraith mantle]

If Imu is gonna leave, it will be because he has to leave to deal with the situation in the holy land, not necessarily because Luffy and co forced him out

They can at best stall him

[ashen perch]

A certain user in chat would not like to hear this but I think the Giant Pirates remain Domi Reversi'd, the HKs also stay and Loki also gets Domi Reversi'd

And that's something the SHs should be able to beat

[thick mango]

But SH win the rest of elbaf? Like the flipped giants are extracted?

[ashen perch]

Yeah

[sage temple]

Or it could be because Imu gets it so the HKs can do the rest without his help

[scarlet nacelle]

so the straw hats enter a island not under a 1 party facist state
and by their exit it turns into a 1 party facist state

[scarlet nacelle]

funny reversal of things

[ashen perch]

Eh its not that urgent it seems like

Imu said that he's going to stay

[quiet ice]

Loki has the will power to fight it

[wraith mantle]

Hmm summoning the holy knights to deal with elbaf, Imu goes back to deal with the holy land issue

I can see it

[quiet ice]

You have to trust the process

[ashen perch]

Well on paper Xebec did too but it didn't work out at all

[woven talon]

I kind of wish Harald wasn't the king everuone thought he was just so we could subvert the good old king troupe we've always had. This time it's more like... naive old king. Took it too far in one dirciton. Misguided.

which might be a decent nuance but Harald just reads as a bit too naive.

[ashen perch]

But yea basically, the Domi Giant Captains do successfully become the kings and the SHs then have to fight them off and Free Elbaf

That's something they can manage, Imu has to go though

[wraith mantle]

Strawhats and Loki

[thick mango]

I think this would be a good middle ground for me. The obivous/happy end for loki where they just win and rule elbaf together or co captians or something along those lines seems like it might be disappointing to me

[wraith mantle]

I feel like dorry and broggy are not strong enough to be opponents of a yonko and Loki

[sage temple]

Loki looks to be key to Luffy learning how to beat the regen

[wraith mantle]

Loki is most likely yonko level too

[sage temple]

I agree

Especially with all his attributes

[woven talon]

I feel like as cool as it would be having a second half of the arc, trying to sneak around the giant country jack in the bean stalk style and free the people... Oda is probably just gonna solve this with a haki burst. Luffy or a combinaiton of characters using enough haki mass to excorsise Imu's remote influnce on Gunko and the reversi victims

[sage temple]

I wonder if he'll get a prison buff

[iron oriole]

Seastone training buff

6 year long arc

[sage temple]

If croc got a prison buff why not Loki 🤷‍♂️

Ngl Loki doesn't need it but it'll be cool to see

[scarlet nacelle]

Because Loki literally couldn’t move

[ashen perch]

Well the way I picture is that it doesn't happen immediately or anything but by the end of a prolonged struggle, but we'll see how that goes

[ashen perch]

This would be really underwhelming ngl

[wraith mantle]

Man I want to see Loki fight

[sage temple]

Durability training

[iron oriole]

I'm genuinely sure that having your body & powers weakened for 6 years would actually make you stronger once you're released & fully recovered

[wraith mantle]

I never had this excitement to see a character fight since kaido

[sage temple]

Loki fighting will be pure bliss to the eyes

[scarlet nacelle]

I think the arc should end in just an outright loss for the straw hats
Obviously they get away but Elbaf is fully taken over and imu gets what they want, a obedient giant army

[ashen perch]

On the Imu thing, he is not in a hurry at all

[sage temple]

Oh

[ashen perch]

He's staying and he won't go till he is forced to imo

[scarlet nacelle]

Oda straight ass at drawing fights you gotta wait for the anime to reach it in the big 2027

[sage temple]

So the whole Loki getting Domi'd because Imu will leave him to destroy everything might not be true

[sage temple]

[iron oriole]

Agreed though i think it'll be more like 95% of Elbafs Giants, i think the New Giant Pirates etc get out with us

[vital heart]

So Brook has to carry?

Is what I hear

Classic Wrook

[wraith mantle]

This is just so contradictory
He literally came in and took over command of the mission because they are taking too long and the situation in the holy land was dire

[ashen perch]

Yeah

I think he is more frustrated about the last few decades in general

These HKs specifically are not taking too much time, its been barely a few hours

[sage temple]

I wonder what stopped him from taking Elbaph in the past

[ashen perch]

But they have spent too long trying to capture Elbaf and they have failed, so Imu is basically saying that he will do it himself now

[wraith mantle]

Loki

[scarlet nacelle]

It establishes the fact that imu really is a force beyond anything we’re prepared for
The straw hats should KNOW they’re in deep shit

[iron oriole]

Tbf whatever is happening on Marijoa, they got enough firepower to deal with it though i do think the whole "you're taking too long" shit from Imu is just how they are, like "how are you not done already? You should have been done the moment you stepped on Elbaf" type shit

[scarlet nacelle]

Prolly the militant strength of the way the giants ruled in the past
Harald softening his policies and literally letting imu in gave them a big opening

[sage temple]

Agreed

[wraith mantle]

Just another instance of Imu being petulant ig

[sage temple]

I mean in between 14 years ago and present day

I think it might have smth to do with Loki's bounty but I dunno

[ashen perch]

They just weren't in a hurry to take it I guess, VP's speech jumpstarted the process again

Not everything has to do with Loki man

[sage temple]

It's special for a reason

[ashen perch]

We saw Gunko talk about how they have to make immediate preparations for the upcoming war now

[iron oriole]

Genuinely think thats what it is, like "i gave you the power of a god & you take this like long? Pathetic"

[ashen perch]

That's why they're here

[wraith mantle]

Well Loki did stop him from taking elbaf 14 years ago

[scarlet nacelle]

Well harald was already on good terms with the wg so they were just playing the long game waiting to be invited in
But seeing as to what happened with harald being killed they decided they need to use direct force

[upper rose]

because they failed to recruit loki, imu was really banking on him carrying the war effort

[sage temple]

[scarlet nacelle]

“Vessels these days are so weak! Back in my day the gorosei were taking names like nobodies’ Buisness”

[ashen perch]

That's not true, they were expecting to take Elbaf along with him

They weren't looking to recruit Loki alone, Shamrock made that clear

[sage temple]

Also that too

Why make Loki a Holy Knight

[iron oriole]

They wanted Loki to have a blood relative to Harald on the throne to make it easier for the Giants to follow him, they just don't know that it would have never worked

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/think-bro-gif-22403438

They probably just wanted to mark him enough for Imu to control him

[ashen perch]

Loki is strong and he'd be under their control

[sage temple]

Silly qeustion

[ashen perch]

Its simple really

[sage temple]

Why not Domi Reversi him though

Maybe because... they can't.

[vital heart]

Arsal, do u wanna know my favorite moment in this flashback so far?

[iron oriole]

They were hoping Loki would just accept & make it easy for them

Obviously he's a good asset too though

[sage temple]

Yeah true

[ashen perch]

They didn't Domi Harald either, this HK contract is probably better I suppose

[wraith mantle]

Man fuck this domi reversi ability

[vital heart]

Which ability is "worse"? Toki's Time Travel or Imu's Domi Reversi?

[blazing depot]

Chalk tuah

[wraith mantle]

Imu has the most toxic abilities in this manga, domi reversi and possessing

[vital heart]

@wraith mantle @ashen perch

[scarlet nacelle]

Smth tells me oda gonna have a nightmare trying to write around it

[cloud ember]

DRAGON!!!!

[ashen perch]

Neither, both are fine

[ruby moat]

Domi reversi makes u one of Imu's minions while the HK contract lets Imu pilot the ship

[cloud ember]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-wano-onigashima-kaido-kaido-one-piece-gif-25687483

[iron oriole]

I wanna say Toki because fuck time travel in stories but i think Oda handled it decently

[ruby moat]

is what it seems

[wraith mantle]

Or just straight up don’t explain it like Saturn’s eye hacks lmaooo

[vital heart]

Precisely. Thanks for reading the story properly, my companion.

[ruby moat]

of course meek 🫡

[ashen perch]

That's just his DF

[golden valley]

The fact people are complaining about domi reversi and Imu hasn’t even showed their full kit is really baffling

[cloud ember]

Does kizaru have speed force?

[golden valley]

Get ready to be more annoyed ig

[ashen perch]

People looked it up like the day the chapter came out lol, the Gyuki is supposed to have eye powers

[wraith mantle]

I love Toki’s ability to

Domi reversi is worse imo

Makes for good emotional moments tho

[ruby moat]

it is very op with seemingly no way to prevent it so I think some amount of annoyance is reasonable but I think it's more reasonable to expect it to eventually be written/explained in a satisfactory way

[wraith mantle]

What’s Gyuki

[ashen perch]

Just one of his 666 abilities

[vital heart]

IMO Toki's ability is unhealthy for the series. DR is fine.

[sage temple]

Hmmmm

[vital heart]

One of his 13 abilities*

[golden valley]

This is just fans being impatient

[scarlet nacelle]

I suspect the way the covenants work is
Shallow sea:beginners just entering the government’s inner circles
Depths:holy knights
Abyssal:gorosei (and maybe gunko with how they’re treated differently from the other holy knights)

[golden valley]

And that’s a them problem

[ashen perch]

Gyuki is Saturn's Devil (fruit) Form

[ruby moat]

im cool with the way Toki's time travel works. Only going to the future prevents breaking timelines n shit

[leaden rivet]

Whatever Imu’s full kit is it wasn’t enough to stop Sabo

[ashen perch]

I said what I said

[vital heart]

100%

[golden valley]

Nice, a Sabo upscale

[ruby moat]

yea, basically

[iron oriole]

My biggest annoyance with Domi Reversi/HK contract regen is that seemingly only Conq is the counter

[sage temple]

I think Imu'll show more in this castle incident

[ashen perch]

That Grimoire clearly doesn't have 13 pages

lol

[vital heart]

💀 Arsal, the Harley "book" had 3 chapters that filled up 2 pages of our manga, yet it looked like it had hundreds of pages. That is a terrible argument.

[scarlet nacelle]

We also know imu can conjure weapons from a book (I still wanna know what that book’s deal is)

[golden valley]

This is fine to be annoyed about yeah

[wraith mantle]

Yeah but do we just assume that his df is a mythic zoan and that’s why he gets an extra paramecia like ability with it?

[ruby moat]

I think it's possible Imu has acccess to the DF abilities of those contracted under Imu, solely because of the whole arrow shit

[vital heart]

This book has equal or more pages than the Grimoire yet all the text can be filled within 1 manga double spread

[ashen perch]

I don't think it had 3 pages, the Harley is filled with a lot of Elbaf myths, Robin focused on the worlds stuff

[vital heart]

This amount of text here equates to this entire book here

[sage temple]

Maybe Loki will show another method of killing HKs

[vital heart]

Each "world" was a chapter, not a page.

[sage temple]

At least imo

[ashen perch]

Meek meek

[leaden rivet]

I think they’ll lose their immortality during the final war because otherwise everyone is useless other than the few coc users

[vital heart]

bruh

[scarlet nacelle]

Moooooaaaar hakislop

[vital heart]

This book is massive in page count yet tiny in terms of word count

[ashen perch]

Harley has got a lot going on

[vital heart]

Okay

Sure

[wraith mantle]

Imu is gonna consume all the CDs

And get big power up

[scarlet nacelle]

Me at the record store

[wraith mantle]

@ashen perch

[vital heart]

intersting. one page = gun page?

[golden valley]

I just thought the mural was summarizing a part of the chapters not the whole thing?

[wraith mantle]

No way people still buy CDs

[ashen perch]

Yeah, that's common to all mythical zoans. Sengoku and his shockwaves, Devon and her cloning ability, Yamato and ice, Kaido and a billion different things, etc

[vital heart]

maybe there's like a sword page, or a trident page, etc.

[iron oriole]

Its either that or Oprah appears & starts saying "you get Conq & you get Conq & you get Conq"

EVERYBODY GETS CONQ

[ashen perch]

I'm sure there's hundreds of spells in there

[wraith mantle]

Big assumption but possible

I think the fact Oda hasn’t introduced them with a big ass Devil Fruit narrator box is an indication these are not devil fruits

[sage temple]

No way Imu beat Joyboy with Domi Reversi, Shotguns, and Knives 😭

[ashen perch]

Its not a DF but its still clearly a Devil fruit ability

Imu can just grant those

That's probably one of his spells

[wraith mantle]

I am gonna need a panel for that

[ashen perch]

I'm pretty sure Vegapunk calls them DF abilities

[golden valley]

We got Imu’s “control” abilities essentially out of the way (maybe there’ll be a few more), but now we get into the power bestowing stuff like what they do for the Gorosei, the abyss portals and who knows how many more

[scarlet nacelle]

What’s with imu’s need for them to be kings?

[iron oriole]

He says if it cant be explained scientifically then its the work of devil fruits

Or along those lines

[ashen perch]

The Gorosei have probably not eaten actual fruits, and Imu has just granted them those DF forms without it

[vital heart]

Damn, I'm such a speedreader - I didn't realize the abilities you gain from Domi Reversi were already revealed -> immortality & power, which are exactly the same as what you get when you receive the Deep Sea Contract/Depths Covenant

[wraith mantle]

A panel that says Imu can grant those

[iron oriole]

This was when Saturn eye diffed Sanji

[ashen perch]

Yeah

[vital heart]

I guess this is Oda's way of saying getting the Deep Sea Contract willingly and getting Domi Reversi'd unwillingly will provide you with the same boost in combat.

[sage temple]

Same regen? Idk

[wraith mantle]

Idk we will see

[scarlet nacelle]

Where is it said the power boost is the same?

[vital heart]

It's not stated, i think it's implied

[sage temple]

Rocks did not have the same regen that the Gorosei and Holy Knights had

[ashen perch]

Wdym a panel, we have seen 6 different zoan forms that should be from a DF but don't exactly seem to be

[golden valley]

Did u not translate the tcb chapter? I think 1151-1152 is where this happens?

[vital heart]

6? you mean 5

[wraith mantle]

Something is fishy about the elders abilities

[vital heart]

I did, I have CTE though

[ashen perch]

Cerberus

[iron oriole]

Idt they get the same regen, Dorry is still missing part of his arm

[golden valley]

Wild

[vital heart]

mfer thats from a DF 😭

[scarlet nacelle]

The regen is clearly different
With sommers he got fully repaired when cut in half
Broggy got his hand shot off and instead of it reattaching it just floats now

[ashen perch]

No it had the same style of introduction

Go reread Meek

[blazing depot]

Inshallah he will get his revenge

[wraith mantle]

Cerberus was mythic as well I suppose?

[ashen perch]

The Gorosei forms + Cerberus are all mythical zoan forms

That's not in doubt, The question is only "are they from physical fruits that were eaten by them or from Imu"

[iron oriole]

Definitely from the same source, Oda made a point of not doing "Inu Inu no mi" for Cerberus too

[ashen perch]

If Imu is the Sea Devil and all devil fruits are just reincarnations of him then he can just give those fruits to whoever he wants to lol

Its that simple

[wraith mantle]

Why would Imu give shamrock something that’s reserved for the elders

Maybe it’s an abyss contract privilege and shamrock has it

[vital heart]

With Viz using the term "covenant" to describe the 3 levels of contract that Imu can bestow on his subordinates-> the shallows covenant, depths covenant, and abyssal covenant, this TL is only aging even worse. I'm not sure if Stephen even remembers translating this panel.

This is when Imu is turning Dorry into DR (literally 1 panel before Imu says Domi Reversi). I think the Diabolical Covenant is just setting up this demonic circle. The issue is that the Japanese furigana for this move was 100% different, it said: "A Coeurl"" and the kanji read as "Demon/Devil Contract". I have no idea where Diabolical is coming from lmao.

I think this is Oda trying to basically say that these Devil Contracts are against the victim's wills but the Sea contracts are something the users want.

@ashen perch Do you have any interesting thoughts? @wraith mantle you too

[ashen perch]

But wasn't it a pun on Demonic Contract or something like that? I remember reading that

[vital heart]

Pun? Idk about all that, this is what we wrote

[ashen perch]

Aku Waru

[alpine trench]

IMO Imu is like Luffy for Nika, a way for the sea devil to host in the world

[ruby moat]

Diabolical makes me think of despicable and despicable makes me think of Despicable Me and Despicable Me makes me think of Minions

[scarlet nacelle]

Don’t we know fruits come from peoples dreams

[alpine trench]

That’s Vegapunk’s theory

I think the more accurate way to put it is that these fruits act as a contract to the sea devil manifested in physical form

[ashen perch]

VP is just a theorist and Oda hates them (but seriously, he can be wrong)

[vital heart]

it was A- Kuwaaru, so i thought it referenced "a Coeurl"

[iron oriole]

Oda should be based & throwback to this in a way by making DF users be unable to get Domi Reversi'd, the devil inside the fruits stop Imu (the devil) from taking control of you

[scarlet nacelle]

It’d make no narrative sense for oda to put that there just for it to be wrong
Also we know vegapunk as someone who is always second guessing himself and trying to not miss inform people

So of course he would say it’s a theory unless he 100% knows it to be true

[sage temple]

Sea Devils make Devil Fruits

[alpine trench]

Having more fruits with powers that are direct contracts with the devil is bad for Imu’s business model for absolute domination

[ashen perch]

But its also a pun on Demonic Contract, so Stephen's translation is good. I'm sure he's maintaining the Covenant theme to stay consistent with it too

[ruby moat]

I’m excited for the flashback to the original devils tjat make up the devil fruits

[vital heart]

Yeah sure i guess I can see that. Do you think there is some relationship between these two types of contracts? The Demonic/Diabolical ones vs the Sea-related ones?

[alpine trench]

The fruits are desires put into physical form, which is offered by the sea devil in exchange for not being operable in water, the dominant element that the devil is the lord of, as the embodiment of nature in the world

[vital heart]

Ie consensual vs nonconsensual?

[ruby moat]

We can learn why the sea devil has so much beef with the other devils

[ashen perch]

VP has one theory, Shanks has heard of another. I think the truth is somewhere down the middle

[alpine trench]

Vegapunk’s theory makes sense

[wraith mantle]

Sorry buddy I got no takes on this matter

[ashen perch]

Yeah Harsh explained it well

[alpine trench]

But with more information now it’s more than “they’re just desires manifested”, otherwise why would the sea reject DF users

[golden valley]

But it also makes sense if Imu can control the devils too

[ashen perch]

For sure yeah, it's likely the lowest form of contract

[golden valley]

I do like the DF users being resistant to DR idea tho

[wraith mantle]

Imu probably ate the sea devil/god fruit and awakened it and now he has access to all DF abilities

[golden valley]

It makes all DF’s pretty relevant

[iron oriole]

Fine to do so if its the Depths etc as they openly go into a contract but have it so DR is resisted since its forced upon you

[sage temple]

Yeah it's either having a Devil Fruit or having a Legendary DF like Luffy
-# and loki

[alpine trench]

My idea is that maybe yes, DFs are susceptible to DR but it depends on the fruit and the power of user’s will

[golden valley]

Agreed

[wraith mantle]

Shanks and his crew are fucked then

[golden valley]

I think the Awakened Zoans like the jail beasts in Impel down should be susceptible for example

[wraith mantle]

Bb is the only one playing it smart

[alpine trench]

Like you just cannot convert Luffy like that because his fruit is the diametrical opposite of Imu and is also used by Luffy, whose will is iron clad

[golden valley]

As they have a weak will to resist their fruits

[iron oriole]

Have it so DF users are resistant to DR but if they have a weak will like Moria for example post Kaido fight, they're still able to be DR'd

[sage temple]

But Luffy's shadow was taken in Thriller Bark

[alpine trench]

I mean, yeah, maybe shanks and his crew will have a tough time but idk if Shanks will be turned so easily

[vital heart]

I just made this quickly on Canva. Do you guys agree with this? @alpine trench @ashen perch @wraith mantle

[alpine trench]

Luffy’s shadow being taken in Thriller Bark is different from Domi Reversi

[golden valley]

Luffy’s shadow was still disobedient

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/gecko-moria-shadows-crawling-shadows-devil-fruit-kage-kage-no-mi-gif-19985098

Yet it was taken

[ruby moat]

"imu cant domi reversi a devil fruit user bc they already have a devil inside them" is the theory i am rooting for👍

[vital heart]

sorry this is better - its aligned

[golden valley]

Moria had to wait for Luffy’s shadow to fuse with oars body

I mean oars

Oops

[sage temple]

I like the other one better

[alpine trench]

Luffy’s will now is different

[sage temple]

But isn't this evident that Luffy's fruit and will didn't stop his shadow from being imprisoned in another's body?

[iron oriole]

Demonic Contract?

[alpine trench]

He’s stronger, he’s awakened, he has conquerors haki full on activated

[golden valley]

It wasn’t awakened though ?

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/maxdoro_art/status/1997675610454315411

MAX | ONE PIECE (@maxdoro_art)

Loki
One Piece Fan Letter style

X · Dec 7, 2025, 2:32 PM

[alpine trench]

Yeah it’s a moot point to bring Thriller Bark here

We’re at the point of the story where if Luffy current was at Thriller Bark he’d dog walk the entire island by himself

[vital heart]

Yea, I explained it above - Imu used a Demonic Contract (viz translated it as Diabolical covenant, but the kanji is the same as the sea-based contracts) on Dorry before using Domi Reversi

[alpine trench]

Yeah

[iron oriole]

Its still DR though

Not that they're different things

[golden valley]

Screenshotting this

[sage temple]

No

[vital heart]

i'm not going to discuss this with you til you read this:

#also-manga message

[sage temple]

Looks like this is the arc

[iron oriole]

I read it, they're still not different things.. DR is a diabolical covenant

[blazing mantle]

New one piece game

[muted hedge]

it'll probably be shit, but one can hope that it won't be

[wraith mantle]

Toei ending one piece season 1 on a high note

[blazing mantle]

Nvm it’s barley a game

I got hyped over nothing

[vital heart]

Ok here are you happy now @iron oriole

[blazing mantle]

It’s like an arcade thing

[muted hedge]

oh

[iron oriole]

[blazing mantle]

This is pretty accurate

[vital heart]

One Piece Dawn Strike

[blazing mantle]

Who has the abyssal contract rn

[iron oriole]

Gorosei

[sage temple]

Better

[iron oriole]

Probably Gunko

Maybe Shamrock

[blazing mantle]

I mean I guess Imu was stronger than rocks so it makes sense

Idk about the gorosei

Imu was controlling Saturn so it evens out

[iron oriole]

Gorosei 100% have the abyssal tier

Its more than likely where the Yokai forms come from

[muted hedge]

i think so yeah

[iron oriole]

Saturn was also alive for at least 200 years and didn't age, thats if its not the Ope Ope that made them ageless

[vital heart]

This says "It is scheduled to gradually begin operation in the summer of 2026!"

[blazing mantle]

You should have saved your translation skills all my hype for it died

I thought it was an actual like console game

[muted hedge]

Shamrock probably has abyssal as well given his Cerberus seem to operate similair to the goroseis monsterous forms

[iron oriole]

I put Sham at like 50/50

[muted hedge]

that's fair

[iron oriole]

He might not have it while only being a Commander but after being called back & possibly promoted to Supreme Commander, he might have it

[muted hedge]

the distinction between commander and supreme-commander is so odd

i wonder what differentiates the two

is the supreme commander more stationary maybe?

[blazing mantle]

Will oda show us clearly all the tattoos and markings or will it be more of an sbs thing

[iron oriole]

Probably just complete authority over the HKs for Supreme & sends you on missions etc while Commander just gives you authority while on specific missions

[blazing mantle]

Do you think garling had it before becoming a gorosei when he was old

[iron oriole]

Its possible he got it once he became Supreme Commander sure

[muted hedge]

this would make sense yeah

[iron oriole]

We know the HKs are the ones to punish the CDs too so Supreme Commander probably gives those orders & Garling happened to do the execution personally for Mjosgard

[ashen perch]

Maybe but there's also a possibility that they're more susceptible to control by already having a devil inside them.

[ashen perch]

Sure yeah

[sage temple]

Haraldmu here would be peak

[golden valley]

They cooked

[cloud ember]

got to the part of my rewatch where we get wiped by Kuzan

[vital heart]

BTW @ashen perch Look forward for Tuesday.

Morj is releasing an Analysis video on the dynamic between Harald and Rocks and the themes of their relationship/Elbaf/the flashback.

[cloud ember]

I gotta read the manga from chapter 0 again ive only done it once

[cloud ember]

the flashback will fail

[ashen perch]

okay

[dapper tree]

who asked

[thin quest]

Morj

most OP YouTubers

[dapper tree]

Meek, pay Morj money to release his wano video

[fluid cedar]

did kuma send him to the past or something hows he 60

[dapper tree]

So he can be a clown for 1 hour

[thin quest]

LunaPien/D&D

[cloud ember]

"that is one tall piece of apathy" I LOVE Pre timeskip dub :D

and Sanji

for saying that

[thin quest]

bruh people were flaming me when I compared Shanks' tattoo to Punk Rotten

[cloud ember]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-aokiji-kuzan-iceman-cold-gif-19895907

[dapper tree]

pink

[thin quest]

when the first chapter featuring Shanks' left arm tattoo debuted I mentioned it looked like Punk Rotten and people were like "nah"

[sly belfry]

Kid fans are thr most oppressed community

[dapper tree]

Kid fans need help

[thin quest]

I think Kid is a bum and I still felt like it was obvious

[cloud ember]

One Piece fans need help

[sage temple]

I hate when Kidd fans try to ride on the backs of other characters being hyped to gain any relevance

[hazy turret]

Aren’t you a sengoku fan

[hazy turret]

Literally who even are you

[dapper tree]

That's a new one

What ever made me that

[vital heart]

He has a deadline on it finally, meaning it should be soon.

[thin quest]

the fandom turned me off to reading for years

[hazy turret]

Was it smoker?

[dapper tree]

You don't even know

You are just accusing me of being randoms fans

[hazy turret]

I don’t even remember what character you champion

Bobbin?

[vital heart]

@dapper tree And he said he'll drop the Wano analysis video before this "In Defense of Wano" video. This means that he'll drop the Wano analysis before June 4th 2026 lol

[hazy turret]

Hi hypno from the future btw

[dapper tree]

oh lord

8 years after wano

[thin quest]

the glaze is unreal

[dapper tree]

Enough time to write a script to convince us one more time that the raid should have failed

[dapper tree]

choosing weird ones

[thin quest]

Morj 🥀

[sage temple]

Commander in Chief of Loki Supporters

[maiden smelt]

Is morj even real

[sage temple]

Who are you?

🧐

[dapper tree]

You know who that is

[cloud ember]

watch me whip

[long basin]

you are just jealous of mr morj's fabulous hair

[cloud ember]

watch me nae nae

[maiden smelt]

I love lokis hair colour

It grew on me

[cloud ember]

purple?

[maiden smelt]

Ya

I hated it at first

But I love it now

[cloud ember]

https://tenor.com/view/yuri-crayon-gif-8889548144611519964

it grows on you

for sure

[mighty shell]

hi steph

[cloud ember]

https://tenor.com/view/eating-eat-eating-food-monster-h-reginald-gif-2362901127389079325

[hazy echo]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-funny-gif-25164834

[craggy vapor]

Demon Ussop would be funny

[long basin]

unbeatable, immortal, rubberband of doom, rip

[blazing depot]

I really hope domi reversi only works when you’re home is true

Only cuz the Domi Reversi Usopp theories are soooo dumb

Like the same energy as Gear Death

[dense rapids]

Those are idiots

It’s clearly the same

[dense rapids]

You know you want Demon King Usopp and his band of 8,000 men

[blazing depot]

Why do you want this

This is like going to a 5 star restaurant but demanding slop

[dense rapids]

You’re not a true one piece fan

[blazing depot]

Yeah I’m a fan who knows a dumb idea when I see it

I’m a fan with standards

[dense rapids]

Dumb when it’s been foreshadowed since East Blue Saga

[bleak plover]

Hi Emood.

[barren token]

the what

Imu domi reverses Usopp but it doesn't work because he's already the worst version of himself

[dense rapids]

Imu Domi Reversi Usopp but he’s still able to control his body with the buff

[thick mango]

Thriller bark foreshadowing

[dense rapids]

In the Flower Garden

Imu has a Flower Garden

[formal wagon]

chicken butt

[dense rapids]

Only thing I hate is Usopp’s bum ahh Elbaph fit

[formal wagon]

imu domi reverses muself and can only obey mu's own will

[barren token]

I kinda like usopps elbaf fit...

[formal wagon]

w ragebait

[thick mango]

Usopp has the best outfit on elbaf

[dense rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/hand-on-shoulder-akakichi-no-eleven-everything-will-be-ok-my-brother-in-christ-we're-gonna-beat-you-gif-16692013677699419935

[barren token]

except the facial hair I don't like the facial hair

[dense rapids]

Yea you know what

That’s probably why I don’t like it

[blazing depot]

I liked it a lot cuz it’s a callback to Film Z

Goofy ass beard and everything

[formal wagon]

buggy would win

[dense rapids]

Buggy low diffs him

[formal wagon]

put usopp against someone like katakuri so he'll be fine

[blazing depot]

My parlay this arc tho is Usopp somehow finds a way to mess with Imu

Kind of like Perona or Sugar

[dense rapids]

He 100% will

[blazing depot]

Yeah

[dense rapids]

Strawhats vs Cross Guild gonna break the internet

[trim lily]

can’t wait for usopp vs richie

[ornate hatch]

Pointless fight

Unless it’s for the op

[dense rapids]

Literally happening

Orange Town 2.0

Luffy vs Buggy
Zoro vs Mihawk
Mr 3 vs Usopp
Nami vs Alvida
Chopper vs Richie

[blazing depot]

Bro hates whimsy and fun

[dense rapids]

A true OP fans wants Strawhats vs Cross Guild Davy back fight

3 Coins = 3 Poneglyph

[maiden smelt]

Croc vs luffy rematch (croc wins)

[long basin]

Redbeard

[long basin]

and since Crocodile is Luffy's mom, Crocodile vs. Sanji?

[dense rapids]

Yes

[ornate hatch]

Speaking off davy fight, lowkey I miss Foxy/splithead

[long basin]

we did see them sail around like bums, didn't we ?

basically the bumbeard pirates

[vital heart]

hey guys

[long basin]

hello!

[warm fog]

Sanji no diff

[warm fog]

irrelevant fights

[ornate hatch]

What? Croc is Luffy’s mum?

In what universe

[thick mango]

Not this one

[celest mauve]

the only good fight here is zoro vs mihawk, be serious

[random hinge]

why did you pin this

[celest mauve]

could be good

[keen quiver]

Peak art i needed it for a sec

[celest mauve]

we don't know how strong crocodile has become

[random hinge]

oh sure

[formal wagon]

😭 is there a pin alarm

[celest mauve]

if he's still around pre-TS base luffy level while having a bounty of 2B beris, holy fucking ass lmao

[vital heart]

Is this real?

[fossil nimbus]

he's definitely become much stronger

[cold steppe]

He's the same

And he was always strong

It was just the water thing

Crocodile and Enel were always technicalities

Luffy first true opponent was lucci

[fluid cedar]

Would dehydration nerf or buff crocodile

[long basin]

confirmed

Teach lived twice as long as everyone else, according to Ace. Strange body structure according to Marco. Teach age 60 now? What's going on?

[soft tangle]

Overly tough

[ruby moat]

luffy was yc2 at enies lobby

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/MajimartBCN/status/1997760514198520286/photo/1

Majimart (@MajimartBCN)

Big mom! #ONEPIECE #fanart

X · Dec 7, 2025, 8:09 PM

[urban sluice]

another win for the blind

[keen quiver]

@steel stirrup

[blazing depot]

Girl neutral

😐

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-tom-holland-yoink-gif-11346283

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/anchoartcho/status/1997704003816509787

Ancho Art (@anchoartcho)

Bonney #ONEPIECE1152 #ONEPIECE

X · Dec 7, 2025, 4:25 PM

[warm fossil]

top 21 things that are not happening

[hearty shore]

Top 1 thing that is happening: usopp vs buggy

[cold steppe]

If zoro vs mihawk is not an arc on its own of 3 chapters separate to any conflict. Just a date and place. I'm unimpressed

[warm fossil]

mihawk Vs zoro will be completely offscreened

[fossil nimbus]

Trust Mihawk vs Zoro will be like Kaido vs Luffy, where Mihawk will win multiple times before zoro gets some insane powerup(making 2 black blades), before winning the final time

[blazing depot]

It already happened during the timeskip duhhh

[vivid vortex]

There is no way the most hyped up fight since the start of the series gets off screened

[alpine trench]

@sleek plume scam ^

[sleek plume]

Thx 🙏

[blazing depot]

I’m so tired I didn’t even process that

lol

[muted hedge]

it's too common at this point

[shell scroll]

How bm looks at someone before breeding them

[muted hedge]

sure

[grand flower]

Wow

[dense pike]

Omg this artists sick

[muted hedge]

yeah they've got amazing art

[dense pike]

[muted hedge]

i love that Franky one, lol

probably my favorite S-Hawk fanart

[dense pike]

thats fair

theyre so good at the dynamic angles

[muted hedge]

yeah

[grand flower]

Almost forgot Garling was trash, that fanservice was so good

[muted hedge]

i'm praying that they make an art with Shamrock and Cerberus, given i know that they would absolutely nail it

[grand flower]

Fan art*

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/SUNSTIANA/status/1985419986144317558

Ithara (@SUNSTIANA)

“Please… get my children off this island… don’t let him have them…”

~

Faceless in life and in death…

Wanted to draw her the moment I saw her, the tragedy of her character that she was faceless to everyone including us is so sad. f Garling!

#ONEPIECE #shanks #shamrock #art

X · Nov 3, 2025, 6:53 PM

[grand flower]

I do wonder what Oda meant by that

[muted hedge]

i am hoping that we'll see her sometime down the road

though leaving her faceless would be interesting, certainly adding to her mystique

[fluid cedar]

If there was a face attached it’d be a nami or a robin one

[muted hedge]

probably but with a defining feature

like Rouge had freckles

[fluid cedar]

Or a big red nose

[shell scroll]

the truth to buggies identity is right under his nose

[muted hedge]

part of me thinks that Buggy will just be an outcast of a failed circus

that red nose is his sour spot, so it would make sense if there's some tragedy involving it

[dense haven]

any harald fans in chat

[muted hedge]

sure, he is a good character

[indigo osprey]

any ms Monday fan here?

[grand flower]

@ashen perch @alpine trench was thinking the other day about how Izo and Guernika contrast each other really well

Izo starts the raid talking about looking for a meaningful death, then has that scene with Usopp.

Both of them serve the will of someone else, but while Izo is willing to die for odens will, guernika balks when the elders order him to interfere with Kaido csuse it means certain death

Guernika tells Drake he’s envious of Drake’s ability to fight for what he wants

Izo dies saving his friends and Guernika ultimately dies for nothing cause nika literally awakens cause he interfered

Elders ain’t shit bro guernika died for literally nothing lol

Threw that man’s life away while immortal themselves

I’d have told them to come do that shit

I’ll draw an abyss for you rn

[indigo osprey]

still it changed the path of the fight between kaido and luffy

although kaido wud have still won

[grand flower]

Kaido probably would have killed him anyway since Luffy was on his last legs ans Kaido could still fight G5

Guernika would have been better off chasing robin

[alpine trench]

good catch

[grand flower]

Damn even the way they encounter each other is a good contrast

Guernika says “I’ll look away if you do” cause he genuinely thinks throwing away your cause is on the table

[quiet ice]

https://x.com/pewpiece/status/1997993270555685097

Pew (@pewpiece)

The voice actor Tomomichi Nishimura known for voicing T-Bone passed away on November 29 due to illness at the age of 79. He was also the voice actor for Coach Anzai in Slam Dunk and Ōnoki in Naruto

X · Dec 8, 2025, 11:34 AM

🫡

[vale heath]

Life imitates art

[somber rivet]

Godspeed, good soldier.

You will be missed.

[long basin]

Time to praise Wanze. But some hate him because they think he supports slavery. sad.

[somber rivet]

Guess Oda will keep T-bone dead in honor of his seiyuu

[latent hamlet]

Damn he was also Anzai? Thats a flashback to the past

[graceful grove]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-cat-cat-gatito-crazy-insane-gif-4445261359056491120

[dense rapids]

Yet another 1:1

[muted hedge]

it's close but not 1:1

[dense rapids]

I could get every shot of xebec’s face and find a buggy face to match to nearly every one of them

It’s not a coincidence

[frail kindle]

no u can't

[dense rapids]

Scroll through my images sent

There’s already like 10

[muted hedge]

so what's the idea?

Buggy being related to Xebec or-

[frail kindle]

you said every shot of xebec's face

there's been more than 10

[graceful grove]

buggy is a Davy

[muted hedge]

i mean maybe

[dense rapids]

“Nearly”

[graceful grove]

buggy and BB team up to kick the shanks twins

[muted hedge]

i like the idea that Buggy only inherited the will of Xebec

[grand flower]

Think buggy is fs a Davy

We know rocks has relatives

His dad and grandma were alive. Could have cousins, uncles, aunts, even siblings

[muted hedge]

they wouldn't live on God Valley would they

[grand flower]

Yeah

He told Harald that’s where the Davy settled

[muted hedge]

yeah

don't we know that Buggy was at least found in the grandline

[dense rapids]

[cold steppe]

At least in the west blue

[muted hedge]

what

[cold steppe]

Im assuming Roger pirates road was like this : Paradise --> New world --> West blue --> Paradise --> New world

West blue is where god valley happened

After they most likely entered the grand line again from there

[grand flower]

The key is always Kuma

He sent buggy’s family away

Maybe they didn’t stay wherever he sent them

[muted hedge]

the only origin we have for Buggy right now is the grandline

[dense haven]

buggy is a bastard child

[muted hedge]

i mean, it's not impossible

https://x.com/manofbeskar/status/1997982947597762978/photo/1

hawk 鹰 (@manofbeskar)

☘️

X · Dec 8, 2025, 10:53 AM

[cold steppe]

Do we have scenes of roger meeting crocus for the first time ?

[vestal mural]

Oh twitter embeds work normally now?

[cold steppe]

Because if buggy was there, then he was most likely picked up in the west blue

If he wasn't then he's from the grand line

[alpine trench]

they dont embed videos or gifs

and only one picture

[vestal mural]

Ty Elon

[alpine trench]

so if you have multiple images, gifs or video you need to do it with a "fixupx" or "fixvx" instead of x in the link

[frozen aspen]

I think we do, in the manga we see him agree to join roger for a cpl of years

i might be wrong though

[grand flower]

I never considered that Roger could have took in buggy when he was older

Maybe Roger destroyed a kingdom for laughing at his deceased friend

Buggy’s clown daddy

Took in his son

Quirk of fate, that son was a Davy like Rocks

Gaban calls Shanks a child of destiny

Maybe buggy is the other because they were mind blown they’d find these two Davy boys both from me valley at separate points

[muted hedge]

i don't think that Buggy will be from God Valley personally

[frozen aspen]

we don't know when he got take im

but I think we see him being a member of Roger's crew when he was as young as 9?

[muted hedge]

around 9 or so yeah

[frozen aspen]

ye

[frozen aspen]

they got him somewhere around that 8 year time frame but thats all we know

[muted hedge]

i think he was just an orphan somewhere and Roger took pity on him

[amber lark]

when Shanks and Buggy had the same level of strength 😭

when they could fight on equal terms!!!

[timber glacier]

Nah Shanks had haki at this point lmao

[amber lark]

They were never on the same level 😔

[timber glacier]

True

[vale heath]

Banks and shuggy

[dense haven]

buggy might be shanks level

we haven't seen him going all out

[latent hamlet]

If shanks is holy knight

Buggy is dark knight

[muted hedge]

well Shanks never became a Holy Knight

just a devoted blade of god

[frozen aspen]

yeah sad to know that buggy oneshots now

[frozen aspen]

I'd like to think roger found him in a trash can in contrast to shanks who he found in a treasure chest

[somber rivet]

Buggy, the true Underdog of this manga.

[vale heath]

Buggy when someone else has the Inu Inu no mi model: underdog

[fluid cedar]

Imus silhouette disappears and a red nose is unveiled

[vale heath]

https://preview.redd.it/the-greatest-twist-in-the-history-v0-2yjp9v66zx1f1.png?auto=webp&s=56d5698226bfe709e02821c1668985cbb19cd34a

[maiden charm]

There's an abyss circle under buggys nose

[somber rivet]

And with all that, we know Oda probably will make Buggy find the One Piece before Luffy as a joke

if he become a Yonko

anything is possible.

[timber glacier]

Or give Buggy the credit

[somber rivet]

https://dailyanimeart.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/gildart-falls-and-breaks-while-village-e1347551572622.png?w=1112

[graceful grove]

he would never be a sellout like lanks

or harold

[maiden charm]

Don't need to be. Could just be that common trope where the all powerful God makes a regular schmuck to experience life through

[graceful grove]

this is happening but he will give it up because it's just one big responsibility to take down imu xd

[maiden charm]

I don't think that's the case but there's options

[somber rivet]

Probably. And maybe this is happening after the death of Shanks, so he will let Luffy take care of it.

Because Shanks will die

by Blackbeard or Shamrock

[graceful grove]

oda is too much of a coward to let shanks die. Shamrock is the one to die

[fluid cedar]

Shamrock sneak

[graceful grove]

"look someone that looks exactly like Shanks died"

now go away
-oda

[somber rivet]

The only major death from a good guy in this series after the time skip will be King Cobra then

not counting flashbacks here

...thinking about it, the reverie was a flashback

so King Cobra died in a flashback

so is does not count too.

[graceful grove]

Kuma was right there

and he even fumbled that

[somber rivet]

Also Vegapunk

But is does not count too

[graceful grove]

yea. every last one of him

[timber glacier]

And Kuma shit can be reversed

[graceful grove]

"it can't be reversed" oda

few chapters later

nvm

[somber rivet]

he really need to learn a thing or two about killing characters

or at least don't make fake deaths

I will not believe Pedro is dead for real until the end of this manga

He will come back in the final War

[latent hamlet]

Insert meme of the dead coming back saying we're here to help

[muted hedge]

that would be a nice contrast

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/o5izpKRXLvW.gif

[graceful grove]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-no-nonono-noooo-cat-no-gif-13597132752790194338

[muted hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/tuna-up-gif-16217588959416961501

[ashen perch]

Just saw someone complaining that random schmucks from Impel Down don't know that Roger's name isnt Gold Roger and it had like 2k likes too and I think we need to nuke the fanbase

Its like nobody even reads the series anymore

[muted hedge]

why does he have a scar over his bandage

[digital spear]

Its so over

[ashen perch]

It really is

[sage temple]

Thats the line showing his cheek being smushed

[muted hedge]

it looks very long though

also drawn in stitches

cool coloring none the less

[sage temple]

Yeah idk why that is

Maybe AI

[thin quest]

have you talked to an average One Piece fan IRL? they have no idea about anything half the time

half the time they're like "yeah man, I stopped in Dressrosa (or Wano)"

[ashen perch]

I have but they're irl so I usually just dismiss them as being normal, casual readers

[hallow herald]

the newest anime episode is bringing back my old question: when Clover says his brother was killed in front of him, does he mean a blood brother or an Ace type brother? because if its the latter I feel like he MUST be talking about Rocks

[thin quest]

his blood brother

the manga chapter even shows it

[ashen perch]

Blood brother, and He said it was for just having the D, nothing else.

[hallow herald]

then why clarify that they grew up together instead of just saying that they shared a naw or something

[hallow herald]

all it shows is a silhouette

[ashen perch]

That's what made it so absurd, that's what made him pursue its meaning and history

[thin quest]

and it's very clearly not supposed to be someone we know

[hallow herald]

there’s no detail and we didn’t know anything about Rocks at the time

[thin quest]

the man is dead

[muted hedge]

well we know that Clover wasn't there when Xebec died

[ashen perch]

Blood relation is definitely clear there

[thin quest]

I think you're reading into it

[hallow herald]

i mean we’ve seen much more detailed deaths that fell thru

[ashen perch]

Born and raised with, and he lied about their blood relationship by saying its just a friend

He wouldn't need to lie if they weren't blood related

[thin quest]

sorry chief, I don't see it

[hallow herald]

nah im saying what if Rocks had a fake death as a kid and thats how he learned to change his name, like Sabo or Franky

[muted hedge]

i don't think that would be necessary

[hallow herald]

necessary has nothing to do with it, i’m asking if its possible or if the line specifies a blood related brother

[muted hedge]

it does specify a blood relation

[hallow herald]

ok cool

[muted hedge]

also i just realized how much emotion they removed from Vegapunk when he got told this by Clover in the anime

there wasn't any shock as far as i recall

[thin quest]

Toei are narrative terrorists

and character assassins

[muted hedge]

i could be misremembering, i'd have to give it a second watch but i just remembered Vegapunk being stoic when Clover told him in the anime

[thin quest]

I watched last night and that's how I recall it

he wasn't especially animated

[somber rivet]

Wit Studios will make everything better

one can only hope

[digital spear]

Wit Piece is cancelled

[somber rivet]

No, I don´t want that. Wit Piece cancelled? I want Wit Piece for at least 10 years or more.

[spice cairn]

https://x.com/i/status/1997723941490839921

Mehdi AOUICHAOUI メディ (@mhdart89)

I participated on one piece #1152.

Thanks to Nozomu Shishido
For the amazing directing,
To @tuyongce2013 for the help and the corrections
And to Ayaka Shiraishi @VdqRv for the support ✨

ONE PIECE #1152 に参加させていただきました。

素晴らしい演出をしてくださった 宍戸望 さん、

X · Dec 7, 2025, 5:44 PM

This is awesome

[hallow herald]

i can’t wait to watch this episode it looks like so much care went into it

unrelated but im gonna be sitting in VC for a bit if anyone wants me to patiently explain chapter math to them

[alpine trench]

It’s a Nozomi Shishido episode

He’s an incredible director

[olive sigil]

The nika hair war half and half?

[hallow herald]

noted!

[alpine trench]

But yeah this episode is insane

[hallow herald]

evokes Uta a bit doesn’t it

[olive sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/war-vietnam-ptsd-shell-shock-moment-gif-15547352725341800501

[hallow herald]

i promise yall to only say “i told u so” one, very loud time when im right abt Shanks

[olive sigil]

Right about what?

[blazing mantle]

Evil shanks probably

[dense marsh]

You mean shamrock?

[dense haven]

if you had to pick between law or uta which one you choose

[somber rivet]

What is that? the theory of Shamrock being the father of Bonney?

[blazing mantle]

I mean like shanks and shamrock are both evil

There’s no good twin

[somber rivet]

Shanks is a gray chracter at least

[alpine trench]

the theory is that there's no shanks or shamrock but a single person

literally

[olive sigil]

I’ll take uta and it wouldn’t even be close

[alpine trench]

shanks can erase the scar and then pretend to be shamrock

[muted hedge]

so silly

[somber rivet]

Knowing Oda, is totally possible

because is Silly

and while more silly

[alpine trench]

oda is not that dumb

[somber rivet]

more One Piece is the concept

[alpine trench]

he knows when to be silly

[somber rivet]

Did he?

[alpine trench]

he has introduced a big storyline with shanks and shamrock and the figarlands, so it would dumb as fuck to have that silly shit come through, he's treating this seriously

[muted hedge]

it would also be just plain unnecessary

other than the shock factor

[hallow herald]

false dichotomy

my theory is SLAVE Shanks

[alpine trench]

???

huh

[hallow herald]

aka Shamrockuba

[blazing mantle]

How

What about when they were walking together

[hallow herald]

split personality

[blazing mantle]

Was that all in his head

[blazing mantle]

What about when they were babies next to each other

[hallow herald]

Fight Club

[olive sigil]

Ai

[somber rivet]

Joker

[hallow herald]

real but he died on the island

[alpine trench]

is this shit literally like shanks and shamrock are like hakuba and cavendish?

what the fuck is this shit

[blazing mantle]

Which one

[hallow herald]

im dead serious doe

[hallow herald]

Shamrock

[somber rivet]

...i mean, the movie

[thin quest]

yeah the idea that they're not different people is stemmed from the internet allowing silly people to broadcast silly ideas

[somber rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/smirk-ha-evil-grin-bad-intentions-scheming-gif-14962053

[hallow herald]

ok yea basically

[alpine trench]

the logistics dont work at all even then

[muted hedge]

why would this be a good idea tho

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/bE3Ld.gif

[hallow herald]

he has obs haki killing and JB level conqueror’s haki he can prolly hit the shadow clone jutsu

[weak wedge]

It's a good idea

[hallow herald]

he did a substitution jutsu on Dragon as a baby

[hallow herald]

yea they do Harsh

[muted hedge]

i really don't think it's a good idea

[dense haven]

haki clones is something I can see oda doing

[vale heath]

So good he convinced his mother he was twins?

[alpine trench]

i'm not gonna indulge in this

[hallow herald]

thats a damn shame, would u like to make a private wager

[hallow herald]

fine by me

[muted hedge]

no?

[somber rivet]

Shanks has a evil twin

Let get over it

is happening

[vale heath]

I’m happening

[hallow herald]

no that bay was real but everything since is just Shanks

im not arguing with yall, if ur confident hit me in my dm and we can bet on it

[olive sigil]

I hate how they make Franky look in this

[hallow herald]

stop that

[vale heath]

No

[vale heath]

I won’t stop happening until like 11 hours from now

[hallow herald]

what a great number

[vale heath]

That’s my bed time

[hallow herald]

goo goo gaga

baby spotted

[vale heath]

Not having a bed time is a show of a poor work-life balance

[hallow herald]

which itself is a display of dedication

[muted hedge]

a lack of discipline

[shadow remnant]

I sleep when I get tired.

[olive sigil]

Your bedtime is 9pm

[shadow remnant]

I wake up when I need to

[vale heath]

My awake time is 5 am

[dense haven]

yall can sleep on demand?

[shadow remnant]

Yes

[somber rivet]

Well, I don´t have it because I don´t have a bed. I have a sofa. So I only have Sofa Time.

[shadow remnant]

If I’m tired

[somber rivet]

Not bed time

[hallow herald]

real discipline is abusing substances until 3am

[olive sigil]

You can do 10:30

[hallow herald]

yea like th

[vale heath]

Can and should are two different things

[muted hedge]

if you say so

[vale heath]

I can blow all my money on the state lottery.
I should not do that.

[hallow herald]

holy shit never ask me that again i almost fell into a coma

[hallow herald]

whats the inspo behind ur username

[muted hedge]

Sir. Crocodile

[hallow herald]

do yk what its a reference to?

[muted hedge]

it means desert

[vale heath]

Dragon ball

[dense haven]

goku

[hallow herald]

true but it’s also a reference to the Egyptian god Sobek

[somber rivet]

Sabaku no Gaara

[hallow herald]

u should read his wiki its hilarious

[somber rivet]

That explain it

[muted hedge]

right the crocodile/alligator god/godess

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/york-one-piece-york-vegapunk-punk-06-yosuyosudraw-qazira-gif-211912794502877691

[somber rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/moon-knight-ammit-summon-ushabti-crocodile-gif-25592554

like in Moon Knight

[somber rivet]

She is probably not eating well right now, being a slave for the CDs/Garling

[wraith mantle]

i dont think she is a slave

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/vUwkEdODHYo.gif

[somber rivet]

Yeah, but I don't think she is a CD either

[alpine trench]

she's a full fledged holy knight

adopted by the manmayer family

so she's a CD now regardless

[somber rivet]

So, a Slave of Imu, basically

[muted hedge]

York?

[alpine trench]

wait

yeah york is probably a slave or something

i thought this was about gunko

[shadow remnant]

York isn’t a knight

[alpine trench]

my bad fellas

[shadow remnant]

Np harsh

But York asked to become a CD

For the mother flame

[muted hedge]

they probably treat her relatively well, given she is the only one who can make fuel for the mother flame

[shadow remnant]

York is an incredibly valuable asset

They sacked egghead to save her

And kill the other ones

[dense haven]

york should be the gorosei not that fraudling

[shadow remnant]

Give Garling some time to blossom

He will show us he’s not all bum

[hallow herald]

somebody join this VC yall got me feelin like Mihawk

aw by mysewf

[muted hedge]

i wonder what name Garlings sword will have given Shanks and Shamrock have Gryphon and Cerberus, maybe Garlings sword will be called Hydra or something

[somber rivet]

just 99% of a bum

[somber rivet]

Name it Orochi. Is the same as Hydra

[muted hedge]

right, well it won't be Hydra then

i completely forgot about Orochi

[somber rivet]

Everyone does.

[hallow herald]

would be cool if its Typhon, the father of Cerberus and a lot of other monsters

[muted hedge]

yeah Typhon would be cool

[hallow herald]

a Typhon and Echidna reference in one piece is inevitable

[shadow remnant]

Why is that

[somber rivet]

Typhon was the final weapon of the Titans against the Gods.

Almost killed Zeus

Maybe it will be related to the Revos

[shadow remnant]

Yeah I know this story

[muted hedge]

though maybe Typhon would fit better as Garlings monsterous form

[shadow remnant]

Typhoon literally beat all of them. Save Zeus and Athena who stood tall with him. All the others fled to Egypt and put on mask

But how does that tie into one piece

I began to view Shanks as Tyr

[somber rivet]

So Gods to escape to another land trying to save themself from a monster. Somehow i can see this related to the CDs, Imu or more

[muted hedge]

it would be cool

that's it pretty much

[shadow remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-monkey-d-luffy-thinking-think-interesting-gif-20107311

[muted hedge]

plus Typhon being the father of Cerberus for example

alongside other monsters, hence his title as the father of all monsters

but like i said it feels more fitting if it was the monster form of Garling

[somber rivet]

Also, you know who is the mother of Typhon?

Gaia

the Mother Earth

Imu

[muted hedge]

yeah

[iron oriole]

One Piece x Knuckles the Echidna?

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/clair-obscur-expedition-33-maelle-nopers-shaking-my-head-gif-11950782421148648122

[muted hedge]

though i don't think that Garling is Imu's literal son

or i guess everyone is a child of god

[somber rivet]

The thing is Imu is not a god, is a Demon

a False god

Like in Mandela CAtalogue

[muted hedge]

i know that they're a false god, but in their mind as well as in the mind of the other God Knights as well as Gorosei they're literal god

[strong wadi]

Damn now I know where RuneScape stole lore from

[hallow herald]

knowing their biology and Oda’s sense of humor, i hope to GOD not

[iron oriole]

[final trench]

Is he the father of gryphon aswell?

[muted hedge]

no

[final trench]

Dam

[vale heath]

Gryphons were just a class of creature, not a Greek Monster

I think they’re an import of Persian mythology

The difference being, Greek Monsters like Cerberus, the erymanthian boar, etc, are singular. Children of Typhon, each was an individual.
Griffons were just creatures that were Over There.

[final trench]

Ah

[craggy vapor]

Hydra is already Magellan’s attack

[craggy vapor]

yes they are. Prince of Persia The Lost Crown is about Simorgh, a divine bird

[bleak plover]

Simorgh Skinner.

[vale heath]

Simorgh zoan

[bleak plover]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-pathetic-principal-skinner-gif-14039035

[vale heath]

Steph zoan

[shell scroll]

Ult

[fallen meteor]

Kinda looks like something really big is walking and shaking the place on each step

[strong wadi]

Damn I can’t believe Loki killed this man, he just wanted to help Ida with her migraines 😔 (what a coincidence though, this is from a lecture today)

[bleak plover]

Chat I'm home and I got nothing to do all day.

Do I play videogame or do I study.

[remote maple]

both, study and watch someone play games

[bleak plover]

Or I just play games with lectures in the background because watching someone play your games is like watching someone eat your food and I don't roll like that.

[vale heath]

Play Minecraft

[grand flower]

Study for an hour and play video games for an hour as a reward/break combo

[olive sigil]

Play video games while watching someone study

[graceful grove]

study. otherwise you might end up moderating a discord or something.

[haughty saddle]

Smoke weed and then don’t do either and just watch YouTube shorts of handsome Korean men make various cabbage dishes

[bleak plover]

https://tenor.com/view/sips-tea-frieren-cute-anime-girl-reading-books-gif-17588266887194186293

What a great motivation to study.

[upbeat yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/how-it-feels-when-you-meme-nanami-jjk-gif-10683277372535996893

[ashen perch]

I swear I saw the same type of made up list before

[bleak plover]

I think I'll pick option 3 and rearrange my room.

[ashen perch]

not only making shit up but also recycling tweet ideas...

[olive sigil]

Option 4: stay in discord and talk about cow piece

[bleak plover]

It's nice to have no work and still get paid for it.

[pulsar path]

Shuisha did do something like this I think idk what this is 🤣

[olive sigil]

Me right now

[ashen perch]

it wasnt really a real list per se, it was limited to Alabasta and earlier

I wouldnt count it

[strong wadi]

Yes this list has been posted before

[ashen perch]

and it wasnt that much of an "official" list, its just the guys who run the OP Channel

and one of them is a former editor

but still

[ashen perch]

makes sense

[wraith mantle]

https://x.com/MiddleWay23/status/1998028154511012180

Middle Way (We are OnePiece) (@MiddleWay23)

Jinbei got donuted by Akainu but has no scar… hmm… what type of power would allow that?
-
Harald was an honorable man who joined god knights to uplift his people’s standing…

Would anyone else ever do this?

X · Dec 8, 2025, 1:53 PM

[strong wadi]

People really out here being dumb

[mighty shell]

lmfao

[wraith mantle]

niggas cant make jokes anymore

[pulsar path]

I do think it would be fun to have some random characters ending up being a holy knight from the past

But jinbei ?? Idk

[strong wadi]

This is already shanks pretty much

[ashen perch]

we already do have Shanks yea, maybe Oda throws in Mihawk or something

[brittle basin]

One Piece fans and a brain as smooth as glass, name a better duo.

[pulsar path]

I mean he has connection tho to the holy land I mean a more less high born

[ashen perch]

Jinbe doesnt have a scar because Oda doesnt do scars

he just draws the ones he feels like drawing

[brittle basin]

symbolic scars only?

[pulsar path]

Or ones with strong significance

[brittle basin]

luffy has two scars

[ashen perch]

even the meaningful ones, like Nami's scar from her stabbing the tattoo, we dont see it

[brittle basin]

gaban has a scar

well nami has the tattoo now which just looks better visually

[pulsar path]

Buffy our beautiful goat is gone 😭

[ashen perch]

oh yeah I meant scars from attacks that we have actually seen

[brittle basin]

There is no god.

[pulsar path]

Zero chance after this

[ashen perch]

a lot of people have scars, but actual attacks that we see rarely ever leave scars in the series lol

[brittle basin]

does jozu have a stump? or did he die?

[pulsar path]

Maybe its connected to the power scale 😭🤣

[ashen perch]

I dont remember honestly, he should

[pulsar path]

You have to be this strong to leave scars that are redrawn

Or it's a math equation like one Sakazuki punch, plus one Luffy equals bigger scar than one Sakazuki on one jinbei

[ashen perch]

Crocodile simply wasnt strong enough to leave a scar on Robin and Luffy, so true

[olive sigil]

So Jinbe is being accused of being a traitor to his race because he’s strong enough to tank akainu? Who’s the moron who wrote this. Jinbe isn’t some fake guy like Harald, he actually is proud of who he is

[ashen perch]

honestly Luffy should have like, so many scars lol

[pulsar path]

One Oden on kaido is more than one Zoro on kaido