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yeah lol i like that one a lot
it's actually odd that more people don't have that agenda genuinely even though i'm posing it as a joke
December is gonna end cuz egghead is gonna end but.....
what if egghead doesn't end in december
will december end
yeah 🥲
Idk what happens. i think i'll cry for sure but like there will be wider consquences for planet earth if egghead doesn't end when it's supposed to.
egghead has to end december
or everything ends
egghead is the last bastion of peace supposedly
yeah ig that arc was destined to end december

Egghead The Last Hope Part 1155
🥚 ❌ 🎅
A year ago today, Saul and Robin reunited.
a year ago?
a year ago
It’s already been a year? Goddamn
Robin meeting Saul amazing tho
A year ago
A year ago today, the best post ts chapter dropped
Man where does the time go
time
Time for some time dilation
It’s morning time
My eyes are dilated
Lovely chapter
A year ago today, peak dropped
Have you guys seen these Christmas edits of bad OP memes
Honestly better than the originals
This is the kind of shit my father says when someone says 'happy holidays' instead of 'merry Christmas'
Hey guys
Hi Meek
Hey meek
these are peak do you have any more of them
unfortunately I cant find the original tweet, only saved these two :(
we might have to execute you
wait I found more
kujaveil on twitter has been making these, not posting all
he is going to be so pissed when Usopp tells him "yeah uh I could see silhouettes of people from miles away this one time but I didnt know what was going on"
you guys are not ready for Master Gaban and his training sesh with the SHs
At this point I don’t really think there will be a training session
Imu is on war land it’s time to go
to achieve what?
you know he is not going to be there forever lol
Plus Luffy doesn’t care anyways
strength
Maybe Gaban might have a talk with Zoro and Sanji
We have already seen bits of it, he advised Luffy and Zoro on haki, he said something to Sanji that we didnt hear
akin to Master Roshi
iykyk
Yeah I remember
its gonna be a part of his role in the arc, he is going to be a teacher like Rayleigh was to Luffy
btw
but they dont have 2 years
do yall know the difference between warland and elbaf? i still dont get it.
meek is right yea, the resemblance is clear but I won't get into other-series
Elbaf is the name of the island, Warland is the name of the Kingdom?
Well we will see about that
the Elbaf island contains the Warland Kingdom yea

why dont the ships have "Warland" on it
because its still commonly known as Elbaf
or why didnt harald change the name of the kingdom to avoid the violent association he was so desparate to remove from giants 😭
he forgor
We’re peace monger’s here at Warland
I just think that’s just an epithet
And then Elbaf being its country name
Elbaf Island (エルバフ島, Erubafu-tō) contains the Warland Kingdom (ウォーランド王国, Wōrando Ōkoku)
I could be wrong I don’t know lol
Warland is the official name of the Kingdom that is on Elbaf
^
Oh
Aurust Castle -> Warland Kingdom -> Elbaf Island
yea
why doesnt he say Warland lol
the narrator mentioned it I think
Elbaf is used instead of Warland by the rest of the world
Nobody really cares if its called Warland officially, they go by the name of the island lol
Bro how big is Harald 
wait lowkey yeah
Alabasta vs Alubarna ?
not really
oh it was Louis Arnot
Alubarna was just the capital, it was still Alabasta Kingdom
I think its like if people ignored the Goa Kingdom and Fuusha VIllage and all that and just called it the Dawn Island
its like the opposite of that though, nobody ever calls it the Dawn Island
No shot it's called Dawn Island
a better example would be the Mokomo Dukedom on Zou
people still call it Zou regardless of what the name of the kingdom is
yeah
Such a goofy name
Romance Dawn, dawned at Dawn Island
Wow I haven't used the phrase 'dawn island' since 2020
Hey, do yall see Luffy knocking down a giant with Conquerors Haki??
Easily.
Has he reached that level
Absolutely, most giants that aren't Hajrudin level can get knocked out
I am pretty sure the name can also be read as DON the sfx lol
Dawn is written as "ドーン" in dawn island. the SFX is usually written as either "ドーン" (same as dawn) or "ドン" which is the same thing without the "-"
so yeah
idk why I was being semantical
Yes
Oh I was checking for the spelling but yea
Anyways, I was talking about Master Gaban
Its happening, he's gonna be the New World Rayleigh
gaban > ray
Time doesn't matter, Oda will make time for a training arc
Whether its through time dilation or anything
I completely forgot about tyne Louis arnot thing
We still don't know what it means
Yeah lol
Dropped plotline🥀
Give it some time, we still have atleast 58 chapters left in the arc
tf
it ends 1225
thats 57 chapters
whoops
The idea is that Elbaf will have around a hundred chapters, we're 42 chapters in
So 58-ish left
I mean flashback end in about 3-4 depending on what Oda covers so what happens for the next 54-55 chapters
2 more?
I imagine you mean gunko but who else
Gunko/Brook and Loki's adventures
The story of this flashback is Harald's death and we'll end it right there
I miss typed loki with a l....
The loki adventure thing could happen in the harald flashback section, just cover it now
Thats what i meant in the "what oda decides to cover"
I don't think Oda intends to, we're gonna move on after Harald
The flashback has gone on long enough, and the story was always about Harald
As for Gunko and Brook, I can see it happening now but also being put off for a later story thread to be covered
Eh, it feels integral to Elbaf's story to me
we will probably get more on loki a bit later
I dont see it as necessary yet
@ashen perch hey I saw ur profile and in your bio u written that are u obsessed with one peice ?
I think that comes from me wanting Gunko to be on the "evil" side for a but longer
I hate One Piece
Tell me the truth
Pls
Because I also love one piece and talk about one piece
I'm obsessed with hating it
😂
No seriously you're in a OP server, ofc we like it here
I guess we'll see, depends on how you see Elbaf as an arc. I think its going to be massive and resolve pretty much everything thats been setup here
I kinda want it to happen later because Oda will half ass it after having the longest flashback in the series in the same arc
I don't see the point of saving anything for a later arc, unless Elbaf was meant to be a setup arc when that just seems unlikely
He won't, its a SH flashback
Its not gonna need more than 3-4 chapters probably, and he'll draw them
Royal guard brook
Nanny Brook
even Shamrock and Loki
not sure how, but he is going to reappear in the arc
just feels like the pieces are there for a massive arc, and it doesnt make sense to leave these things for later for the most part
We should be resolving everything Elbaf in Elbaf so we can move past Elbaf and into the final final arcs
Elbaph will be lasting for a while since we didn’t even get to explore the Heaven Real,
Heaven Realm
for sure
I miss sleeping, I have new upstairs neighbors that are the loudest people in the fucking universe
I am sure Oda was aiming to draw a 60 chapters arc or whatever but its gonna be like a hundred or more as always
I know but some guys only just watched it they like other animes more than op so thats why I asked
Do we?
I’m not an avid anime watcher, but I am obsessed with One Piece
I don’t like anime. I’m a manga guy. And one piece is the very best
my condolences
are we going straight to hachinosu post elbaf
or what do u think
I’m thinking we are going to see urouge up there as well
Oh definitely!
The Supernova’s were prominent in post timeskip arcs, Urouge’s turn will come soon
I’m also hoping to see Uranus this arc in the same way god valley was setup and paid off from egghead or elbaf a similar situation I thinks going to happen
arsal want oda to rest but also make 200 chapter arcs
I think up there is going to be the residence of the famous Elbaf elders council
Is urouge an Elbaf elder?
That would be kozuki moria levels of funny
Luffy zoro and usopp
Daiski
Clover didnt, kobra didnt, Luffy didnt, rocks didn’t
Corazon did(very important), oden did. Too many exceptions off the top of my head
Yup
Two CDs
I think the idea of the meaning behind the D will be that it’s something any person can be
Like it represents joy by being a laugh and not an actual “D”
Damn @hazy turret @hot cairn @wet condor @ashen perch
I thought you'd be 10 years younger
Maybe not straight to Hachinosu but that's the next major arc
Bahahaha
Dawg we’re fucked lmaooo
Actually cooked
67 memes genuinely make me laugh now
After all this knowledge we got on him + shit we dont know yet, blackbeard finna act a ass
lol he already had half the straw hats see in her in the newspapers with the X mark , once the other half who actually knows her sees it , they’re gonna. want to go after her
we just saw luffy say before egghead he would storm mariejois for her lmao
Yeah something with Vivi feels the most likely for what’s next (she might even pop up in elbaf due to the dorry & brogy connection from little garden)
Facts
wonder where shanks left the straw hat while he was in mariejois
probably gave it to gaban or rayleigh for safe keeping (sabaody or elbaf)
Beckman lol
mugiwara no beckman
yeah mighta left it with them
i can see a ruskaina situation too where he just leaves it at a specific spot in an island
Lucky roux had it

You got none of them right
Damn you're old haha (I got 75)
That’s rocks Newgate and Momo
best trend
Performative trend
Mind probably looks something like this
If I used spotify. Most music I listen to is older stuff and like soundtracks. Funk, Blues, Jazz is probably aging my shit up a lot lol
"fan art"
are you sure a fan made this art?
yeah
the fuck is this
W Ragebait W YC W Speed
it's just a different style to Usopp
I mean it's really not flattering in the slightest for Usopp
this is hateart
Thigh's got competition
He looks like an all tomorrows creature
i am serious when i say that i do think it's just their art style, lol
but yeah i mean maybe
no its not
i just scrolled through their profile
LOL
it has 2 more drawings of alita and those are done in a way that she's beautiful
good fanart to balance out that abomination
Usopp one mogs
sorry i like my shanks pretending to be evil art posing with his brother ok
22 mins
that's right
ok we get it
wait is that out?
yes
damn
what IF: both joyboy and Imu are that?
what
black silhouetes
well, i'm sure that both of them will have distinct apperances
though Imu being a sillhouette is a funny idea
they did the whole imu fightning in god valley as a black silhouette and all characters just reacted as "what is that thing?"
that could just be because Oda doesn't want us to know yet
12
imagine him next time doing a imu vs joyboy 900 years ago but he don't want to reveal the face of either so
i hope we get it soon
who made that?
10
[#ONEPIECE] [#ون_بيس]
︀︀جوني ديب يظهر في "طوكيو كوميك كون 2025" ويتلقى هدية من مؤلف "ون بيس"
︀︀
︀︀شهد معرض طوكيو كوميك كون 2025 ظهور النجم جوني ديب، حيث قدم له المؤدي الصوتي هيرواكي هيراتا (مؤدي صوت سانجي و جاك سبارو) هدية خاصة عبارة عن ستارة "نورين" يابانية.
︀︀الستارة من تصميم مؤلف مانغا"ون بيس" إييتشيرو أودا، وتحمل رسماً لشخصية جاك سبارو صُممت خصيصاً لإهدائها لديب.
︀︀#TokyoComicCon #johnnydepp
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very cool to see a proper rendition of Jack Sparrow in Odas iconic art style
https://i.imgur.com/35XC49p.png his signature is here
oh, i must have missed that my bad
some google around apparently he edited it based on another work from https://www.behance.net/gallery/86187293/Onmyoji?hcb=1 this guy who is just japanese art not one piece, but linking as i feel like giving credit to the original artist is necessary
cool
this trend is so cringe seems like the shit from the depths of deviantart or tumblr
out
Now I want to make one
https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1027199 official out
who are you calling idiot
tcb wins again
stephen paul
are they here?
She's demented and got harald and elbaf mixed up
being able to see the panels instead of blobs of ink is appreciated
pretty great moment
rest in peace Ida
Idiot. The raws said tens of thousands, not millions
who cares
millions or tens of thousands, this just looks like stupid nitpicking, it gets the meaning across
HARSH CAN U SEND ME A FRIEND REQ PLEASE I WANTED TO DM YOU
what's up
at this moment? no
Im telugu too thats why im asking you
I see
UR A WB FAN?
Fr
yeah, he's my favorite non SH character
the GOAT
Ong
seems like nozomi shishido has delivered another banger of an episode as ED
Been a bit since i watched the anime tbh
Im too lazy to watch it cuz college work and stuff
i've kept up with the manga more consistently but i caught up with the anime and i genuinely love it and its staff
Are u dickriding urself bro
😭
Damn
@woven talon We did good work
@woven talon
Good job meek
https://fixupx.com/pewpiece/status/1997676981949698061?s=20 pouring honey on shishido
Looks awesome
meek i dont care
Man why is that everytime i see u and harsh in chat ur tryna rile him up
To be fair. Elbaf and you sound the same if you're drunk
Hmm… peak…
I'm trying to migrate him from reading Viz only (dull, boring weekly experience) to TCB only (exciting, premier experience).
LMFAOOOOOOO
Viz is the offical and Tcb is by fans?
why not read both
Yes
i'm not gonna do that, i have been reading TCB out of compulsion since i've been busy on even sundays
Chill on Stephen Paul he’s running on fumes
Bonney transformed twice?
she turned back
What's compulsion? Does that mean youre forced to?
yes, i read TCB these past 2 weeks because i had to
Don’t diss the goat Stephen Paul again or we’ll have issues
@lofty fern read 1168 by viz. Imu dialogue is straight trash
Has two first names
LMAO
😭😭😭

"Thou saidst thou wouldst be a slave"
Is stephen paul ESL?
It was great. At least they know how to speak old English correctly
Meek how would we know whether we should trust you or viz, considering none of us know japanese
that is how Imu talks tho
do you understand what it means
We need Meek muted again
The greatest punching bag in the history of anime 
Saidst and wouldst aren't real words
Great job 👍
His ego is too big
Also this is good no? whats wrong?
It is in old English
"canst"
it's archaic
why does Imu not learn the language over the years?
Meek is just mad Imu and him have the same grammer tier
Not their fault you don't know how to speak it
Fried by gemini
Can’t tell if this is Ota or Shinosuke, but either way — cinema.
Bruh.
Get destroyed Meek
Where does one learn how to speak Old English
A Bible
You cannot disobey Mu.
Pick up a dictionary blud
you read old texts
The same place where one learns how to speak Japanese
you said you would be a slave
Read some Shakespeare
bro i got 130,000 hours on the dictionary
he didnt have to learn it
I think the bible also has old English?
Saturn packwatch 
OH WHAT
NVM
At this point, why doesn't Imu speak in Proto-Indo-European dialects?
rizzedst
Ye olde English
meek are you stupid
They are real bro
I think thats a question for Oda
800 years ago english was still kind of recognizable
Imu is the supreme unc of OP
definitely
It would be normal for Imu to switch to a modern language over the last 800 years. Imu may be dumb
Fun fact, this is Shakespeareb English, which is actually modern English. It’s basically the archaic modern English
I'm sure he speaks the old language of whatever translation language it is
@vital heart they beating your lil ass rn
Imu talking like this give them a lot more character
Fr
☠️
Why should he change the way he speaks?
because it would happen unconciously
Cope
They're 'god'. Why would a god change how they speak for 'insects' ?
imu isa boomer that refuse to go with the times
gradually, see Arnold Schwarzenegger
You’re so smart let’s kiss under the mippletoe
Do you think Imu interacts with that many people
get to the choppa
Arnold now speaks German as he speaks English 
its nippletoe
I wish. But I am already betrothed to another
and Imu should too 
It's actually funny that imu speaks in old english while emeth and joyboy speak normally
He may be from nika time
true
Good point ngl
Also Stephen put back in the "wise" part of Haralds title that you left out @vital heart
Changing Oda's text for your own agenda...shame😔
Imu didn't speak and listen much over the years it seems
basement dwelling loser
but imu was also a king
@vital heart accusations upon you
Only if he talks to people regularly and adapts
nah, Imu was the guy who carried the piss bucket for Davy D. Jones, trust
what
true, apparently he didn't
lmao
this is totally not suspicious and the guy on the throne is definitely trustworthy right harald 
Im interested in how imu managed to pack not 1, but 2 people he feared (joyboy and davy)
thou shall not rizz thou neighbors wife
we know that harald is naive and fucked it all up, i think that well has dried up
the people helped him, the dumb people
I'll rizz imus wife instead how about that
do they have a wife?
i'm interested in seeing how the incident panned out
The logic is joyboy got defeated by the 20 kingdoms together, which is fair
Im now interested in davy's story tbh
of his death
Harald the "wise" is intentionally ironic im sure
it absolutely is
It took until this chapter for some ppl to admit it so I'd like to rub it in some more 
it'll be really interesting to see how Loki manages to overcome Harald with immortality
we don't even know Joyboys story, really
Irene really schooling meek this morning
i mean, in some ways he might've been wise because he acted solely out of an interest of the good of elbaf
I mean he was kinda wise man, he did try going the right path for elbaf, it just ... imu fucjed it all up
also imu is tiny as fuck on that throne
loki killed how many giants
Wait there's a reason why->
It's the same dialogue as from Chapter 1152. We didnt use "wise" back in 1152 but we prioritized precedence and consistency.
:C
113?
What if Imu is joyboy
Hmm
100+ no?
I think its harald who killed them
113
he killed so many? damn
But loki got blamed ofc
it just feels like such a huge jump, given Harald was already rivaling Xebec without the immortality
loki is by all means a beast
loki used the powr of love
Packed a domid harald, who was rocks' equal
Crazy asf
when is oda gonna show lola
Loki is a beast for sure but this is still a bit of a big jump in my opinion
He probably did have jorul's help, but still not an easy feat
Harald killing 113 soldiers must be part of him screwing it all up
Because they were allegedly strong
knowing Oda it’s gonna some type of caveat like it always is .. it won’t be as simple as Loki straight up killed Harald
I still think it's funny how shanks captured loki even tho he's the one who would know what's going on with harald 
Very possible
maybe there was 113 soldiers trying to contain Harald, while Loki in his anger just lashed out on all of them not understanding that Harald kept them there to contain him
i expected to see more loki stuff but getting more harald confirmed to me he's the main character of this flashback by a handy majority followed loki, rocks and hajrudin
Dont let socrates see this
Loki will be the main character of the flashback when we see him out on the sea
I mean I always thought it was a harald flashback
until Shanks shuts him down
Yeah i saw 😭 he sent ss once in chat i think
I now believe Imu killed Harald (similar to saturn but not the exact same way ) and Loki got framed for it
possible
loki's journeys or his dynamic with shanks, or how mosa came about - most of these things are not being shown here right now
Yea pretty much. He’s the connection thread for everything we saw
loki is rocks level
Loki didn't deny killing Harald so it was probably him still
my thing is that harald went on a rampage himself due to the influence of imu
Just not in cold blood
Yo thats a possibility i didnt consider tbh
Yeah thats why im on loki killing harald side
and loki took the blame on him by laying the final blow
Harald needed to die
i guess it's possible that the new generation is that much above the old one
it seems the most plausible
No other option
given the whole theme around new generation surpassing the old
similar to saturn how? saturn's death was due to losing the eternal youth when he was centuries old, harald didnt reach that level of the pact
My theory is
Jorul Loki vs Harald
Jorul Loki won, but Harald stabbed his sword in his head, so Jorul lost his memory
imu perhaps revoked the covenant
loki is rocks level and he still got one shot by shanks 
Imu can probably drain his life eitherway, given Imu controls him
Harald kept resisting to the point. that Imu couldn’t control him but Harald couldn’t move and told Loki to kill him quick .. I do think Harald & Loki was a mercy kill where Harald allowed it to stop his rampage and that’s why Loki said he didn’t do it in cold blood
oh, so like, if someone granted an immortal body has it revoked, they suddenly suffer all the wounds they got while immortal?
Jarul had his head poked fairly early but oda has been liable to change events we've seen this flashback LOL
Xebec couldn't do this though
Xebec got domi reversi
i feel like it woud be odd if Harald could, while Xebec couldn't
not what Harald got
ah right
How do we know he had his head poked early
purely mentally in my opinion
Harald most likely got weaker overtime as he went away from the warrior lifestyle
Yeah, that would be a cool thing to see
i don't think so, he was still crushing pirates left and right
i think there will be a point where he can allow Loki to kill him without fighting back , Loki won’t wanna do it but he’ll have no choice
He did go away from warrior lifestyle back then too? And if anything he got closer to warrior lifestyle now as a hk
i dont like what this idea would mean for my saving shamrock agenda 
and that’s all Gaban & Shanks saw so they think Loki just killed him instead of Harald allowing Loki to kill him to save him
He's still an ancient giant , like oars could drush 90% of all pirates but he isn't Xebec level
There were still other giants around when it happened
so years later Shanks packs up Loki lol
yeah, but we already know that Harald was on that level
Okay maybe im Illiterate tbh i don't see him getting stabbed has other giants around when it happened
those other giants were probably part of the 113 that Loki executed
Loki wouldnt call jarul chief or even his name
what chapter did elbaf start?
Okay yeah now i get it
i doubt Oda will do this but it would be nice if in the loki/shanks flashback (if we get it ) Loki asks Shanks about his scar & Shanks telling him it was the son of rocks … seeing Loki reaction to finding out Rocks had a child
!animo
Next episode comes out on <t:1765123200:F> <t:1765123200:R> (time zone adjusted)
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thanks
We also knew that only Loki and Jarul survived the incident
I think it would lead to Harald becoming possessed by Imu
that would be funny but i do think if Loki knew Rocks had a child who scarred the pirate that captured him , he would be talking about trying to find him instead of destroying the world as the sun god lol but it’s possible i guess
Either its Imu possessing and flipping the giants and thats why they had to die or Loki cant understand the situation and falls in a rage
yeah i think that’s what happens too like Gunko.. I think Imu can possess and kill anybody who has a deep deep sea contract and above
Idk about kill, the thing happening to saturn was probably just Imu ending the contract and Saturn lived for far longer than would have been possible normally
Shanks knew what was up and got outta there lmao
True, thats also possible
Exactly plus Gunk was straight up brainwashed as we seen how she reacted to Colon and Brook that led her to snap out of it briefly
Shanks was lokey funny for this, plus no way in hell he comes back to Mariejose and be buddies with them again lmao
@pine scaffold @vital heart walking these cuties. It’s so cold outside, you can see the steam rising from their crap 
my question now is .. did Shanks always plan on going to the holy land as a spy or was it his fight with Teach that caused him to do that .. and if so then wtf did him & Teach talk about that caused that lol
What’s the context ?
I think he did always intent on that based on his behavior post Roger’s death
To be fair discord had been laggy as of late for me
Also still not convinced of backward time traveling considering how Oda handled Toki’s fruit
I think this is more about inherited will here
Saint Saturns death has top be the most brutal death in OP
not even close lol
mention three more brutal deaths
Oden death was more brutal than Saturns lol getting boiled alive then shot .. Imu made it quick with Saturn
So you admit you cut Odas dialogue.
Nah mate this time I’m actually mad I didn’t get pinged. They’re so cute
Popeyes biscuit no drink
He was literally getting suffocated, it might have been quick but extremely painful, but yep Oden is up there
But Saturns death is definitely top three for most brutal
Trying real hard to understand the meaning of this
WB death was also more brutal than Saturn death
You ain’t read it all?
It was so sad
being boiled alive kinda sucks
yeah Oden & WB went out in the worst ways
W dogs
I burned my finger once and it was bad enough
Wb definitely, Oden maybe. But sure saturn is still top three most brutal for me
I feel similar to when a puppet would try to resist its strings, but ultimately the strings will win. It's more of like a slack than a full resistance. In fact, he literally says this chapter that he can't resist
tf you mean oden maybe bro
lmao right Oden shit is worst than Saturn suffocating
bro got boiled alive lmao
and was still thugging it out
To be fair Saturn was straight up melted to death like rusted
Oden was definitely the most painful one
All that remained was bones
Kaido & Orochi did Oden dirty lol
not only was he boiled while being alive he was also holding up the scabbards lol
yea because rocks as a lil bitch
not a fan of the idea that the fight with teach led shanks to go to holyland, i think whatever roger said to shanks + maybe meeting with dragon at loguetown is what led him to investigate his blood family/what his life would have been like had he not been separated at GV
Oden's death was bad but Saturn got his lifeform or whatever taken out of him then he just melted to bones
imagine having to stand up in a pot with all those grown ass men and women and you can’t drop or else they all die too lll
Not physically cause he was simply strapped by Garling but it is most depressing
Harald haters see this panel and delude themselves into thinking they’d be better off in death battle training
He got sliced up and punched holes through by Garp and Roger as well
skill issue
his actual body was still fine though as we saw him on the ground
It’s take compared to other deaths
Rocks was maaaaaybe like top 20
that was just the domi reversi stuff they cut up
etooo shuron-kun idk how to tell you this my guy
But that never killed him
We still dont know yet how Shanks even knew no?
He still felt the pain tho
I think WB probably hurt the most, he did lose half his face & shit
He could NOT get up
Poor Newgate. My guy had cancer and in the end what killed him was his son eating him
Rocks actual death was just bitch ass garling stabbing him so it’s not that brutal
Yo actually it’s so funny that people were like “see, elbaph stopped training thr kids and now they’re fucked up”
Yeah cause these kids were gonna stop Imu and the knights
sb do you think harald is stronger than rocks for resisting imu
Rocks also resisted Imu
Yeah Harald was good king despite his own issue, it’s just his biggest mistake was to trust WG even tho to be fair we had seen them directly sabotaging Harald’s efforts in the past that he himself acknowledged it and it’s just that he has no choice but to join them
It's probably not even the same type of control tho
Yea imu is remote controlling from thousands of miles away
yeah it’s not the same type of control
At least he beat cancer
Yeah he plugged his controller into Harald
Domi reversi is way too different than what the fuck Imu had done to Gunko, Saturn, and even Harald for sure
Wifi Abyss
The Depths contract logically should give Imu more control over the person than DR, so resisting that i think is a better feat
Harald is gonna allow Loki to kill him
does that make loki rocks level?
no cuz Harald allowed it
Harald got the tramp stamp control , Rocks got the domi reversi control
Garling isnt Rocks level for killing him
Both are being imposed on the victim so whats the logical reason for contract being better?
I wonder what exactly happens for Harald to even be killed now.
He's in the flower room using a far off ancient controller from the era of the ps2 to control Harald right now
He’s an immortal, and I don’t imagine Loki and Jarul have the know-how or power to overpower that regeneration.
Its a deeper bond with Imu as implied with the Gorosei
lol Harald was really a HK for like a couple days and immediately got fired
Shanks just left lmao
O great imu
I wonder why Harald needed Jarul to show up too
🤮
But DR is literally transforming you into something that makes them like Imu
he trusts him
he cant really do anything abt this situation tho
I hate to bring this up, but I still wonder if they’re really going to try to make Gunko appear sympathetic when they return to the present and deal with all that.
Probably
yea if anything harald resisting is a bigger feat since the contract is more powerful than domi reversi
Imu heard Harald say he wanted to make someone young & pure the new king and said hell nah
When he pulled out that sword I figured he was trying to impale himself
That shit raw lol
Imu said ain’t no other king gonna be as dumb as you so i can’t allow that lol
if Rocks was a holy knight he'd also resist like Harald
unlike harald shanks isn't dumb enough to fall for this shit
He dipped out lol
Shanks should’ve dropped some hints to harald before he left lol
Let's see what Shanks got to say
rocks couldn't even resist killing his wife and child
I'm curious why he bounced
Break week....

DR is just a random contract to turn into demons etc, the Depths contracts are an actual "bond" with Imu, it just makes sense to me for that to be more powerful & allow Imu to have more control over the person
Imagine if Rocks killed them though. I'd actually feel something towards Imu then lol
they think harald is gonna fight off imu possession lmao
i think he found out from his family or someone else in mariejosi about Imu and said nah i’m out

But, like, how? Especially asking the question after this flashback, because now we know she was participating in the people hunts. How is the reader expected to feel bad for her?
I can see it
its obvious
Oda aint that dark
he'd be tied to imu for life
Fact : Roger didnt actually have cancer he was just acting like it so he didnt have to fight imu
so left immediately before becoming a full hk
She has a special connection to imu and knew brook as a child so a lot of people think she got brainwashed
Which would kinda absolve her if that connection is broken and she reverts back to being a normal person
and let his arm get eatwn for good measure, now shanks can do whatever he wants
A “random contract” that rewrites the person, the contract that bounds you to Imu doesn’t. Don’t see why DR isn’t bonding you to Imu either, but to an even greater extent where you’re being altered
domi reverse seems to be capable of being undone
it absolutely rewrites the person as seen with gunko
It’s weird considering she had only a shallow contract. Which doesn’t seem to do anything to you
Garling : son! who managed to wound your face like that , tell me now !
Shanks : DAVY ! they’ve returned
Garling instant Rocks PTSD
the contract is a more in-depth version of domi reversi
She was probably only a blade of god in rank
rocks looked like himself after roger and garp took him down. Futhermote it seems like DR is possibly limited to only home islands.
dr is a temporary measure
I imagine that special connection will be no different to the connection Harald seems to have with Imu, which is letting him be controlled now. That’s not to mention that Gunko seemingly isn’t just some random that became a Holy Knight somehow, she’s outright a member of one of the Celestial families. I don’t know.
And already had the abyssal contract
The HK contract can't be undone
i can only imagine Garling reaction the first time he saw Teach poster or at marineford on tv lol
Imu is literally being controlled and altered. Thats more akin to Domi reversi than it is to the contract
She's 100% special because she doesn't age
Also harald can talk even while being controlled
shat himself probably
Dorry & Brogy can 
I was going to say is that not all Holy Knights, but then I remembered Garling is a codger now.
harald doesn't seem fully possessed tbh. I imagine Imu doesn't want the other giant guards who are present to suspect something is wrong with Harald
Thats not dorry and brogy truly speaking
Rocks in his DR could “talk” but that wasn’t him
imagine the reason ends up being cus of the df, like with Sugar. "The arrow of time does not affect me" or some shit 😭
Also why would DR, presumably the contract that Imu can spam be better than the one that as far as we know only 13 people have ever recieved
if domi reversi is so powerful imu would be using it to promote people instead of the contract
dr is just something to use in the heat of battle
Domi reversi is the ooga booga contract
Domi Reversi isn’t like the contracts in that regard
I can see that Spice
why use domi reversi to promote people when it physically changes you into a monster lol
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i don’t think that’s the look Imu is going for
Exactly
Theyre not the same
I mean.. Abyssal presumably gives you the Yokai forms, is that not turning you into a monster too?
More points to the homeland theory
The contracts lets you teleport among other unknown things
i don’t think Imu wants monsters walking around mariejois
Domi Reversi is control and being rewritten
kinda defeats the purpose lol
I also wanna know why Imu is just not Reversi'ing every fella he sees. Like if you can Reversi a man like Rocks?
the other contract also changes you but allows you to change back
You dont have access to portals (as far as we know).
exactly the other contract you still look human .. with domi reversi that’s completely gone
And they become mindless beasts
like I just said the contract is more in depth designed for the long term
Oh that makes sense
we saw how they told marines don’t look at saturn when he transformed .. Imu doesn’t want everybody knowing about that
dr is something to use in emergency
Yeah
DR is just for the people who don’t have contracts with Imu .. it’s really that simple
Yeah
To be fair Harald was peered pressured into doing that considering how WG sabotaged him and that probably made him felt that the only way for him to achieve his goal was to join WG which is obviously huge mistake too but understandable why he went with that.
glad we agree dr is weaker
not weaker but just short term
Domi reversi can be forced too you might have to accept the contracts
Even though DR is supposed to give you an "undying body"
we saw Rocks body both people who are domi reversi and people with the abyss contract like garling at the same time .. didn’t seem to make a difference at all
I'm still curious why he doesn't Reversi a lot of these really strong people though
It could be Shakky or the future female straw hats members type of situation
both are contracts did yall forget how imu turned sorry and brogy
It doesn’t make DR weaker, it just means it’s case by case.
they can't refuse
only difference when rocks bodied both the abyss contracts & domi reversi is that the domi reversi aren’t immortal so they didn’t get back up .. but it’s not stronger than the domi reversi from what we seen
Homeland believers where you at
homelander
You called?
Probably it has to do with strong will thing, Imu had to rage bait Xebec in order for it to work
Tell Musicfactor why Imu doesn't just DR everyone
I was full-in on homeland theory. I don't quite believe in it like I did before just because of the way that Xebec got Reversi'd. It doesn't preclude the theory, but I originally conceived it as your feet having to be tethered to the homeland. After Imu establishes a pact with the earth, he can pull you in. But he Reversi'd rocks just by stabbing him lol. Granted they were still at Rocks' homeland though
they all got bodied the same 😂
Imma disturb the chat rq and then go away again
Literally OP characterbm build
Being a very willful person will probably make it harder to Reversi. Maybe he's gotta like recharge or it takes a lot of "magic abyss power" to do it. So you can only Reversi one guy like Rocks and then you've gotta wait until the magic or whatever is rejuvenated
reminder that the hk get a huge power boost from Imu amd Garling got one shot despite the boost

lmao Rocks said it don’t matter if they domi reversi or Abyss contracts .. they all getting this WORK ! 😂 Garling so trash bruh I swear
Rocks is just built different
fraudling
How long has this flashback been going on
Like 6 months
fraudland gargling
this chapter made it worst with the reveal that the contract gives you a insane power boost .. and you was still THAT trash lmao
Think we're at 16 chapters now?
i can only imagine how weak these HKs were without the contract
If you're a person with a strong spirit, then you can resist like Rocks did. If one of the others with a bladed weapon like Whitebeard or Roger cut those tentacles that were in him, he may've not gotten Reversi'd
do the gorosei even really have CoC or are they borrowing that power from Imu too
Borrowing haki would be dumb so I think they do have it
HKs looking kinda sorry without Imu holding they hands 
Yknow this actually is possible if you think about it
increasing your physical strength should increase your haki .. that’s what they said with DR rocks so it’s for sure the same with the gorosei
Gorosei borrowing coc would be the funniest thing oda could pull
you worried gunko is fraud too
i’m sure once Harald got all that power his haki increased as well
Killingham carrying the HK name hard
Gunko is the only one who isn't a fraud
Killingham been avoiding real fights he may be a fraud
She already proved herself, I'm not worried
Killingham is hunting teachers let me see him fight Zoro
When he can lend immortality, devil fruit powers (presumably), and now CoC 
Can't wait for Luffy to start making contracts to give his peeps CoC so they can beat holy knights and gorosei 
imagine if the gorosei were be doflamingo lvl without imu
HKs without the strength boost from the contract , are they beating the VAs ? lol
What will you do if she turns out to be a fraud?
Nah Killinghams power is the reason Elbaf has gone so well (up until Imu showing up ofc)
can’t include Garp cause he beats them all alone lol
There was a time where this would be a compliment
Well she already solo'd half the crew by herself so that's not a possibility
Imu saw Sommers get neg diffed by retired Gaban & Gunko almost get the same treatment and had to show up themselves lol
reminds me of GV with Garling getting bodied and Imu showing up
I believe in it and I think one of the main reasons is the obsession with giants. There’s not another country of strong people around the world all jammed in their homeland. I also think it explains why Imu hates merfolk. They don’t have a homeland
Thats a bad way of looking at it
Gunko iq diffed Gaban
She's faster than him, Gaban saw that she would have impaled Colons throat if he moved
Would you fight scopper gaban if you didnt have to lol
He wasn't fast enough
spamdam level feat
Unironically a skill issue on Gaban's part
i’m not saying she had to fight scooper i’m saying she would’ve lost to scooper lmao
one shot even
lmao
my guess is DR, both as a contract and an injection, is based on the rage felt from not being strong enough innthe moment. Both Broggy and Rocks (the only "patient zeros" weve seen being transformed), in their moment of defeat, likely wished they were stronger, so they could enact the wrath they felt towards Imu.
Imu, being a trickster-dealmaker type character, granted them the strength, but the catch was relinquishing their autonomy
As a wise man once said
"Luffy and Imu both grant wishes
(make dreams/desires come true).
Luffy, like a wishing well
Imu, like a monkey's paw"
Old man Scopper Gaban too slow for her
In a 1v1, gaban would win, but yeah, gunko is faster than gaban at least when riding her arrows
beating up the weak straw hats and jinbei ain’t saying much lol
scooper doing the same thing
Jinbe reputation 💔
sayinf beating up jimbei aint much is actually insanely skewed
She be cheesing
Jinbei reputation been cooked for years
So I'm not that impressed
the moment he joined his stocks went down
I wonder how that thinking is doing
Gunko is faster & can wrap her opponents in her arrows
Aye now
ofc oda had to hypetool jinbe
You guys will be quick to call holy knights tobi roppo
They are
Look at what jimbei did to a tobi roppo
firefighter jinbei

Jinbe 'bout to show unc still got it
Sommers is
Give 'em time
jinbe being defeated so easy doesn't even make sense
let me carry around boxes the entirety of egghead while every else fighting aka Jinbei lol
so convenient
Daaam. Haven’t heard tobi roppo in ages
Part of why he was defeated so easily is the trickiness
Such a throwback
oda didn't have to hype tool jinbe tho
It’s not that straightforward
He’s the Tim Duncan of the One Piece universe
He did apparently
Oda might hate fishmen and im honestly being serious
Do not mention Apoo King I'm warning you
But it’s the same
Apoo is tuff tho
Thinking
Still tied up
Imagine in the final war the HKs just beat up all the YCs that isn't team SHs
Like...mihawk and crocodile
Katakuri
Uhhh....who else. Benn Beckman?
Tied up
you know jinbei stocks went down when you get included in fights with the weaker trio of he straw hats .. bro not even allowed with luffy sanji zoro lol
But Apoo could fight
In spite of having his ability figured out
That’s what impresses me more
On Month 7 of thinking rn
Than any hax reliance
joining the strawhats is a curse
It really is
Jimbei once said its ok, zoro is with him
That ruined his future permanently
lmao bro accepted his role as new member of the weaker straw hats
“ zoro is here to protect me guys “
Jimbei's been thinking for like 8 months now
Wait 'til he's done
Some would disagree Saul
Jimbei's best attack
Throwing zoro
The readers crashing out because the children aren't child soldiers
we shoudlve traded S Shark for Jimbe in Egghead
What is he doing against someone who can dodge Gaban 
Gunko's abilities cheesy as hell. It's literaly like kids be at recess
He'll think his way to victory
"Oh you hit me, I'm invincible"
Its actually a cruelty
Isn't that all the god knights
"Oh if I'm not invincible, all your shit bounces off me and goes to you"
Even if jimbei was able to hit gunko
literal uno reverse card powers
and its fire 🔥
Where is your conquerors haki boy
She's worse though
She is not worse
realistically if i had to rank the HKs so far it’d probably be
-Harald
big gap
-Shamrock
-Garling
Big Gap
-Gunko
-Killingham
-the rest of them
-Sommers
But I'm more impressed Zoro because his stuff comes from raw might
harald rn is the strongest character we’ve seen in the series besides imu
Relax
Manifested from honing his skills and tenacity from his spirit
Top ten tho forsure
Where's Shanks
It's just haki vs devil fruits
Devil fruits are an entire half of the power system
Shanks technically never became a knight
It's no less valid
thankfully he was only a god blade or i would have him behind harald but above everybody else
Guys
Jimbei beats every HK
He just goes into the water
Have u ever seen a HK swim?
So what are we thinking Shank's mission was
i dont see how hes not top 2
he was already the strongest with rocks