also-manga

[stone terrace]

I thought he was just straight up about the truth even if a little embellished

Like in WCI

[ashen perch]

BM was not declared dead in the papers due to this fact that Morgans was made aware of, and thats why Pudding was able to tell those BBP that if she is back, they are gonna be in trouble. Because her status is also unclear in the universe.

Oda never wastes a panel anymore

[wet condor]

@fluid magnet They're hating on your GOAT

[ashen perch]

and you guys think it exists for no reason

[wet condor]

[scenic dirge]

The world at large definitely assumes both Kaido and BM are dead lol

[ashen perch]

no they dont lol

[scenic dirge]

They definitely do

[tranquil blade]

but the BBP also said Law was the guy who killed Big Mom and how else could they have found out besides the newspapers?

[formal wagon]

do slowpoke tails grow back

[iron oriole]

Yes

[tranquil blade]

They LITERALLY do think they're dead

[ashen perch]

they said beat

[tranquil blade]

They said killed Arsal I swear

Goddamit

[ashen perch]

Pudding is able to speculate about her survival because shes not confirmed dead lol

[frigid gulch]

It’s a whole separate convo if you think she’s alive but it has nothing to do with that

[ashen perch]

why wouldnt it

[frigid gulch]

For the reasons that were mentioned ?

the ship was around around those waters

That is her ship

If you wanna say she’s there along with them

That’s a different story

[scenic dirge]

You think people just assume Kaido and BM are existing in some ambiguous limbo state lol? There’s not really many options to be assumed for people like them.

[ashen perch]

the BBP are the foolish goons who are going to be wrong, Pudding is the smarter one here

[scenic dirge]

Killed

Get rekt

[cloud adder]

Oof

[tranquil blade]

oghhhhhhhhhh my godddddddddd

[frigid gulch]

So they assume it ye

[ashen perch]

well they are wrong

[stone terrace]

The big mom bet is resolving this arc one way or another finally

[scenic dirge]

Whether Kaido or BM are actually alive or not is not the point here. The world at large 1000000% are under the assumption that they are dead

[leaden rivet]

I would be more sad if Kid is actually done for

[scenic dirge]

As of this moment

[vestal mural]

Dead or not? It’s still going????

[ashen perch]

when has an evil goon mocking a good character ever been right

like thats OP 101

[tranquil blade]

Yeah they wont end it

[ashen perch]

they are the idiots

[tranquil blade]

They're never gonna end that bet

[ashen perch]

Oda does this all the time

[leaden rivet]

If the evil goon said big mom was still alive would you be saying this

[stone terrace]

Juba said he was ending it this year and then arsal had him demoted

[tranquil blade]

I hope Oda just tells us she's dead

[stone terrace]

Crazy

[frigid gulch]

Morgans’ goon scuba dived into the magma for the most factual scoop

[scenic dirge]

That’s facts

[iron oriole]

Ofc Arsal would because that would back up the theory that BM is alive

[ashen perch]

why would he

illya this is your 2nd hypothetical of the day that makes no sense

[leaden rivet]

Wait what was the first

[tranquil blade]

Arsal would say something like "Why would an evil goon say something correct of course he'd never say that"

[ashen perch]

the "what if Harald's successor just abandoned his ideology"

like no, why would he

[leaden rivet]

I asked you that because I wanted to see if your logic remains consistent

[ashen perch]

but yea, bad hypothetical, why would the evil goon mock Pudding by saying "hey your mom is actually alive"

he is mocking her by saying "haha shes dead"

[leaden rivet]

Ignore the context. If an evil goon said big mom is alive, would you use it as evidence. Yes or no.

[ashen perch]

and the evil goon is going to be wrong, because gooning is wrong

[tranquil blade]

With how much I've said that Big Mom is dead I might actually have to leave the server if she's alive

[frigid gulch]

[scenic dirge]

BM may just randomly show up one chapter and Arsal can feel vindicated then. But the point is, take the L on this one bozo. There’s nothing cryptic about how the world has interpreted Kaido and BM’s defeat. The assumption is that they’re dead and everyone is shocked about it

[cloud adder]

gooning is wrong...

[tranquil blade]

What if he's an ethical goon

[frozen aspen]

cause harald was a dumbass

[ashen perch]

but the context is everything, is the goon from BMP? I would consider it as a positive sign actually

[frozen aspen]

even ida noted that he went to far and there is nothing wrong with taking pride inbbeing a warrior

[vestal mural]

Lmao. But Srs what would the point of her being alive now be? Just another Kidd and law L?

[tranquil blade]

Some Elbaf bs idk

"her character isnt complete"

[cloud adder]

luffy needs to beat up BM

[tranquil blade]

Luffy needs to beat up Jack too but it isnt happening

[scenic dirge]

BM could have some Elbaf resolution, but there is actually 0 reason for any continued Kaido involvement in the story. Especially since he’s still being featured in flashbacks

His arc came full circle

With losing to Joyboy

[dense rapids]

Someone post the kunai meme

[ashen perch]

I mean a successor that he was planning to pick up personally, thats where i was disagreeing with Illya. He was obviously going to be a likeminded king.

[dense rapids]

😂😂😂

[ashen perch]

His actual successor is going to be Hajrudin, who I imagine will have a more balanced lookout on these things

[cloud adder]

luffy really told BM "ill kick your ass all over the new world" in their first convo, crazy work

[vestal mural]

Isn’t the imu one a fabrication

[ashen perch]

the panel is real but

[frozen aspen]

Hajrudin is an actual pirate so true

[urban lodge]

It's real, but I'm sure it's just a coincidence

[steel stirrup]

I dont see Harald in the reflection wtf are they talking about

[ashen perch]

its probably a coincidence

[shell scroll]

He’s there

Look closely

[vestal mural]

It’s def a coincidence lmfao

[tranquil blade]

People agenda so hard they start to hallucinate

[dense rapids]

Apparently this is him 😂

[shell scroll]

U see the horns resemblance

[ashen perch]

I see Laboon

[vestal mural]

I see your mom

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/meonly-gif-19710542

[frigid gulch]

They’re taking it too far

[dense rapids]

Why would Harald be in Doffy glasses 😂

[steel stirrup]

Wtf is happening

[urban lodge]

You probably see all sorts of characters on reflections if you try hard enough

[dense rapids]

SchizoPiece

[ashen perch]

Kuzan being shown separately from BB on that big spread is like the only reason why I wouldnt necessarily discount that panel

[steel stirrup]

Is this a Rorschach or some shit

[cloud adder]

Harald probably met Mjosgard

[ashen perch]

like maybe he has something going on that involves Imu

[dense rapids]

Yea I believe the Kuzan one is Imu

[tranquil blade]

If I see a one piece character in my mirror is that foreshadowing

[dense rapids]

But Harald and Doffy is stretching it

[steel stirrup]

Isn't that him staring down Doffy

[ashen perch]

as in, a goal thats involves overthrowing him

[urban lodge]

Yes (foreshadowing that you need to get that checked)

[ashen perch]

the Kuzan one is also interesting because of the dialogue

[frozen aspen]

least delusional op fan

[ashen perch]

because I believe Doflamingo is asking him what he is after

[leaden rivet]

@hazy turret you’re not even my friend lol

[void knot]

I stare at Kuzan too ngl

[ashen perch]

in that panel

[steel stirrup]

Lmaooo

[ashen perch]

or atleast in that scene in general

[steel stirrup]

I meant Doffy

[tranquil blade]

Discord just knows you're besties

[steel stirrup]

Thats him staring down Doffy right?

[void knot]

Him too.

[tranquil blade]

but if you have dms open with someone I think it might count even if they arent friended

[urban lodge]

I'm still annoyed that I can't get one because of my privacy settings

[ashen perch]

idk theres a slight chance of there being something to the Kuzan Imu panel

[void knot]

My dm stays open cause few want to talk to me anyway. I wont deny the few that do

[hazy turret]

First of all that’s wild? Also how does it know this if I have the data setting off? That means they have my data and can show me mine

[frigid gulch]

Turns out it was different

[ashen perch]

yea youre right

[tranquil blade]

I mean every website collects data now

[ashen perch]

but Doffy is a cringe Imu larper so it still works

[tranquil blade]

Imu is a cringe larper himself tho

[urban lodge]

Yeah they're obviously still collecting data, they just pretend they don't

[hazy turret]

That’s what I’m saying, it’s using the excuse of my settings when they have my data already

[ashen perch]

reflection of Imu on his glasses as he is staring down the Imu wannabe

[hazy turret]

Just show me

[ashen perch]

it kinda works

[wet condor]

Kinda looking like Harald rn Rokkers, ngl

[tranquil blade]

I see a nose in Doffy's glasses

[shell scroll]

Crazy insult

[tranquil blade]

THis means something

[hazy turret]

How was I supposed to know this a year ago?

[steel stirrup]

Yea imo the antagonist we faced that were foreshadowing Imu the most is Enel and Doffy so I can see it

[void knot]

Every app harvests data. Anything where you checked "yes" on do you agree with the terms and conditions, thats you giving that company permission to harvest as much data as possible which they then turn around and sell to online brokers which is how they can afford to offer you a "free" service.

[tranquil blade]

Hold on it's Dragon

THis is foreshadowing for Kuzan being in contact with the revos

[ashen perch]

hes so fascinating

[steel stirrup]

Hell, I would argue Doffy was closer to being Imu than Enel is at least in terms of how he operated

[wet condor]

Ion know what to tell ya

[steel stirrup]

From my observations, every Antagonist seems to have foreshadowed Imu in some way

[ashen perch]

every antagonist is somewhat stretching it till we see more from Imu, but theres multiple where you can see Oda's ideas for Imu at play early on

[wraith mantle]

Is it cold where yall at?

[tranquil blade]

No

[shell scroll]

Yes

[tranquil blade]

It's still 24 celsius here

[void knot]

I wouldn't say they foreshadow Imu in specific, but they do hint at the WG being more than meets the eye.

[wraith mantle]

Damn

[steel stirrup]

Well I would say the majority do

[wraith mantle]

That’s perfect

24 is perfect temperature

[bleak plover]

Steph jumpscare.

[tranquil blade]

Yeah well it's like 35 celsius in the summer here so it kinda sucks

[ashen perch]

Enel, Moria, BM, Kaido, Doflamingo, I imagine more parallels will become clearer in the future

[steel stirrup]

Each of them imo have one trait from Imu but exaggerated

[wraith mantle]

My wife

[urban lodge]

Perfect temperature is like 20

[stone terrace]

kuzan best admiral

[urban lodge]

18-20

[bleak plover]

N-no.

[stone terrace]

speak american

[wraith mantle]

It’s a bit chilly

[void knot]

I have something for you

[wraith mantle]

At that temp

[tranquil blade]

16-17 is perfect imo

[dense haven]

any shanks haters in chat

[steel stirrup]

What

[tranquil blade]

I like it a little colder

[void knot]

Dm

[steel stirrup]

Die tonight

[sage temple]

Me

[ashen perch]

Spice are you ready for Shanks to die to Imu

[tranquil blade]

???

[steel stirrup]

You know what u did

[wraith mantle]

Lmaooo

[ashen perch]

he is not ready

[cloud adder]

???

[tranquil blade]

I dont??

[ashen perch]

its true, its happening

[wraith mantle]

You mention shanks and Mimi literally spawns

[steel stirrup]

Right right

[wraith mantle]

Crazy stuff

[steel stirrup]

LMAOOOO

😭

[cloud adder]

Loki is being tsundere about Shanks trust

[frozen aspen]

If anyone kills shanks it will be goatbeard

[ashen perch]

Shanks is the descendant of Joyboy, Imu will kill a Joyboy once more

[steel stirrup]

[cloud adder]

Um

[steel stirrup]

Here we go with this shit again

[digital spear]

dead chat

[ashen perch]

the child of destiny is destined to die to Imu

[wraith mantle]

What if shamrock was the real joyboy

[cloud adder]

This breaks my heart because Shanks is joyboy lineage so i see the angle

[wet condor]

It'd be better if it was Blackbeard but I can see it

[tranquil blade]

Imu kills Dragon Blackbeard kills Shanks

[ashen perch]

it wont be BB

BB doesnt have it in him

[urban lodge]

Neither will die

[frigid gulch]

Rocks defeats Garling, Teach defeats Shanks

[frozen aspen]

bb kills both dragon and shanks

[tranquil blade]

BB is tuff

[frigid gulch]

[wraith mantle]

This is one piece no one is dying

Let’s all relax

[urban lodge]

Garp will die, but Dragon will be fine

[wet condor]

You mean he's physically incapable of getting the job done?

[tranquil blade]

If Oda was good that's how it would go

[frozen aspen]

the everyone will be glazing bb like they did rocks

[steel stirrup]

You really think Joyboy looks like Shanks

This isnt a bit

[urban lodge]

He'll lose of course but he'll live

[steel stirrup]

Wtf

[wet condor]

Because he definitely has it in him lol

[ashen perch]

yea, killed one guy his entire life

[urban lodge]

Arsal is cooking though

[cloud adder]

Have you considered Shamrock dying for Shanks in this event because Shamrock was almost the child of destiny but he lost the coin flip at GV?

[ashen perch]

nobody ever dies to BB really

[shell scroll]

Joyboy flashback is gonna be in colour right? Maybe we’ll see his hair colour

[frigid gulch]

Who said that

[steel stirrup]

Nah

[woven violet]

Loki is coming through soon.
All bullshit will stop

[cloud adder]

Itll be silhouette sadly

[woven violet]

Big boy loki tqkes centre stage

[wraith mantle]

Will we get a Loki Hajrudin combo attack?

[dense haven]

loki will be one shot soon

[urban lodge]

Yes

[cloud adder]

But Joyboy will be red-haired

[urban lodge]

Loki and Hajrudin Hakoku

[wraith mantle]

If domi reversi counts as a one shot

Sure

[frigid gulch]

If Joyboy does actually have red hair we’ll know

[frozen aspen]

Garp does and his grave becomes a public gender neutral bathroom

[sage temple]

Lets bet then

[ashen perch]

eh I can see it, but I am also considering the effectiveness of the death. Shanks dying is something that Oda is surely saving for a big climactic moment in the series because of how much it would mean to Luffy.

[steel stirrup]

"Put ya money where ya mouth is"

[sage temple]

[ashen perch]

Shamrock actually has a decent chance of being the only FIgarland to not die

[wet condor]

Full on agree

[sage temple]

!source2

[tropic nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/486983010025996299/771848354891169812/image0.png

[leaden rivet]

So turn it off like a good boy.

That’s what they want anyway

[cloud adder]

Staphhhh this madnesssss

[ashen perch]

he is going to make up with his brother

its fine

[sage temple]

Literally nothing supports Loki getting Domi'd except "because i think it's vewy cool"

[steel stirrup]

Oh Mimi doesnt like it?

Continue

[ashen perch]

it'd be good for him to not die

[hazy turret]

First of all, watch your self
Second of all it’s already off

[cloud adder]

Luffy will save Shanks to parallel chapter 1

[bleak plover]

!me?

[tropic nova]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1010993473098354830/1013039429406969866/last_final.png

[leaden rivet]

So their manipulation worked?

That’s crazy

[wet condor]

The thing is now that Shamrocks in the picture, I am less confident about Shanks dying

[sage temple]

Why is Rob lurking

https://tenor.com/view/i-got-my-eyes-on-you-watching-you-signal-point-stalk-gif-5960200

[wet condor]

Both of them dying kind of feels unlikely

[hazy turret]

It’s been off what do you mean

[stone terrace]

Shanks has achieved godking status

I can no longer bet against him

He might beat blackbeard

[leaden rivet]

Oh I thought you said you couldn’t get your data cause it was off

[steel stirrup]

ZEHAHAHA

[wet condor]

Well, Oda is a hack if he doesn't

I'm serious

[steel stirrup]

CAP

[hazy turret]

Yes, data personalization is off so they can’t show my my checkpoint

[woven violet]

Roger not looking so good rn

[cloud adder]

Shamrock exists to give us a Shanks death without Shanks actually dying

[steel stirrup]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/164996746429202432/1410309233194307615/Screen_Recording_20241123_092045_YouTube_1.gif

[ashen perch]

are you thinking of it as something that would happen before that storyline plays out?

[woven violet]

Outshined by the Davy clan

[ashen perch]

because actually, I think its coming after it

[wet condor]

He'll win the fairly if it happens but I still see BB killing me

[cloud adder]

Garp is already going to die so Luffy losing Shanks too is too much

[wraith mantle]

Break week 💔

[urban lodge]

I would bet money on Shanks soloing the entire BBPs before losing to some trickery

[ashen perch]

after Luffy has returned the hat, after the reconciliation with brother Sham, after maybe even the death of Garling

Shanks finally dies to Imu, as was destined...

[sage temple]

AI 💔

[woven violet]

Nah blackbeard isn't a lightweight

[ashen perch]

for the child of destiny

[leaden rivet]

Grown ass baby

[cloud adder]

I wouldnt even make this bet

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-laugh-smile-tom-and-jerry-telugu-gif-16740069

[stone terrace]

This is positively awful

[wet condor]

I think Shanks and Shamrock storyline will play out and there will be some resolution before Shanks dies, yeah

[woven violet]

?? It looks good

[ashen perch]

Garp is just not dying, I'd even bet on this

[stone terrace]

Who the hell is leaving footprints on grass like that too

[ashen perch]

0% chance

[steel stirrup]

Your rage blinds you from the truth

[wraith mantle]

I think it’s about time bb actually won a fight fair and square

Shanks will lose to bb fairly and this will cement bb as the great threat he is

[sage temple]

Baby has aura

[cloud adder]

Will Sengoku die instead?

[ashen perch]

yeah same

[ashen perch]

Sengoku is probably not dying either but idk

[sage temple]

Big foot

[tranquil blade]

Sometimes I get why people call one piece a mickey mouse series

[urban lodge]

What rage? You know Oda will glaze him to never before seen levels

[ashen perch]

but Garp's survival is 1 billion percent guaranteed, it would be bad writing for him to die

[frozen aspen]

ur assuming that shanks dies when shamrock is far mor likely. Shanks actually got things to live for

[cloud adder]

The Garp-Koby classroom scene has me convinced its Garp's time to die

[shell scroll]

But people die in the series for example mothers

[steel stirrup]

And that nigga is the nigga who Oda used to glaze BB

What's your point

[cloud adder]

And Garp dying is a wonderful push for Koby

[tranquil blade]

I remember when they were calling Kaido mickey in wano because he killed 1 guy out of all the people he tried to kill

[ashen perch]

Garp is now in the same position that Ace was in, Luffy is actually powerful enough to save him unlike with Ace. He is not going to let a loved one die like that again.

[ashen perch]

no its not that, I actually expect dozens of death in this final saga

[stone terrace]

If garp were to die id spend a solid 10 hours straight trolling

[urban lodge]

Just that he will "glaze" BB differently, he will show that he wouldn't win in a fair fight because that's how it's always been with BB

[cloud adder]

And luffy will be sad about Garp too - more fuel to the fire since BB would be involved in Luffy losing his bro Ace AND his grandpa

[ashen perch]

but Garp isnt one of them

[frozen aspen]

who said he wants to save garp though

[steel stirrup]

Oda clearly loves Shanks, so now imagine how much he must love BB to use Shanks as a hypetool

[ashen perch]

zolu lets be very real here

[frozen aspen]

[wet condor]

Shamrock in some sense feels more expendable, but he can also live after Shanks redeems him or something. And then Shanks is the one that dies and Shamrocks lives. But maybe Shamrock is the one who dies and Shanks lives. The chance that both of them dies...

[leaden rivet]

He was ready to drop everything to save vivi

He’d definitely want to save Garp

[urban lodge]

Doesn't love him as much as Buggy tho

[steel stirrup]

Yea

[ashen perch]

Shamrock the last surviving Figarland. you guys arent prepared for this but its happening

[cloud adder]

I dont see SHs going to Hachinosu

[steel stirrup]

I need you to stfu😂😭

[cloud adder]

We gotta go see Shanks on lodestar

[leaden rivet]

Arsal is CONVINCED we’re getting a Hachinosu arc but I don’t see it

[steel stirrup]

😭

[frozen aspen]

i mean even if he wanted to, I don't think luffy is saving him. Between elbaf and FMI possibly being attacked he has other priorities

[vestal mural]

You’re using it wrong. You’re not worthy of the power

[stone terrace]

[ashen perch]

its like

[indigo yacht]

Loki took down a depths amped Harald. This Harald is stronger the Harald that fought rocks. Shanks then took down Loki

Therefore Shanks > Rocks

Any questions?

[cloud adder]

Dragon can go save his dad, would be a nice moment for them

[sage temple]

🙁

[ashen perch]

if I say something, you guys are just going to be automatically opposed to it

[stone terrace]

ye usually works

[dense rapids]

Man I love twitter 😂😂😂😂

[steel stirrup]

Rob stfu

[cloud adder]

So say something better

[indigo yacht]

Deep in your heart you know I’m right

[ashen perch]

opposing a Hachinosu arc is like opposing Wano during Punk Hazard

[stone terrace]

plot -> lost

[tranquil blade]

A hachinosu arc is possible

[urban lodge]

Rob don't feed Socrates...

[ashen perch]

a hachinosu arc is guaranteed

[dense rapids]

🤣🤣🤣

[indigo yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/tonystark-gif-20634708

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/burger-king-funny-memes-king-gif-7804318347669139446

[tranquil blade]

What's scary is that this is possible

[steel stirrup]

LMAOO

[cloud adder]

Hachinosu can be a cut away type thing

[urban lodge]

Well Shanks > Rocks is gonna happen anyway

[grand flower]

That fine

That’s*

[steel stirrup]

No shit

[urban lodge]

But Loki is not on that level yet

[grand flower]

?

[tranquil blade]

So Shanks > Loki > Rocks > admiral

[stone terrace]

16 year old loki

[urban lodge]

But he will obviously surpass Harald

[tranquil blade]

Okay I see it

[stone terrace]

lol

[ashen perch]

He is, neither of these things are a concern because they will both be resolved before BB officially announces to the world that he has Garp

[stone terrace]

without ragnir and a df

[frozen aspen]

maybe rocks is actually a fraud and harald and Garling were just that weak

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-absolutely-fucking-not-absolutely-not-leo-dicaprio-gif-9364097

[leaden rivet]

We don’t have much evidence that rocks was actually stronger than the yonko

[tranquil blade]

This could be it

[leaden rivet]

I suppose there’s the Sengoku statement but that’s it

[ashen perch]

Xebec peaked before any of his peers peaked

[latent hamlet]

plot twist: rocks is actually emperor tier

[ashen perch]

he can just be not that strong

its not a big deal

[latent hamlet]

WB BM Kaido etc were just simple emperor commanders

[brittle basin]

Rocks was that strong

[stone terrace]

the mariejois sky split was to show they were that strong

[steel stirrup]

I just got off the phone with Chief and he said "Hell nah that aint nowhere near it"

[cloud adder]

Xebec died before his peak, like Ace

[ashen perch]

Garp wasnt in his prime, Roger wasnt in his prime, WB, BM and Kaido were far from their primes. Xebec is below all these guys

[stone terrace]

if you arent yonko powered you arent splitting the sky

[tranquil blade]

If it puts the admirals down I'll stand by it

[leaden rivet]

Big mom sneak

[ashen perch]

and girl, also the girl

especially the girl

[leaden rivet]

I don’t think anyone has said he isn’t yonko level

[frozen aspen]

i did

[leaden rivet]

But he is generally put above the likes of primebeard and Roger but we can’t actually be sure of that

[tranquil blade]

Is Xebec even Kidd level

[frozen aspen]

no

[tranquil blade]

We have to talk about it

[stone terrace]

Im gone

[steel stirrup]

This rage bait is TRASH

[frozen aspen]

bye

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/ugly-period-pooh-omg-wow-goodbye-gif-14262270

[brittle basin]

it's notable that he killed an admiral too. not fought, not clashed. killed.

[leaden rivet]

It worked on icon

So it’s good enough

[ashen perch]

When Loki 1v1s amped Harald, it'll be official

Roger=WB>Kaido>BM>Mihawk>Shanks>Loki>Domi Rocks=Domi Harald

well not domi

[tranquil blade]

We are going to start a dialog

[ashen perch]

I copy pasted that

[frozen aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-bait-ragebait-angry-gon-bait-gif-5270896389597269350

[ashen perch]

amped Harald

[leaden rivet]

BM>Shanks is kinda crazy

[steel stirrup]

Die tonight

[brittle basin]

Amped™ Haki

[tranquil blade]

Shanks>Loki>Rocks>Admirals, makes perfect sense to me

[ashen perch]

you guys are in denial its okay

[void knot]

Im so fine, Kakashi's books feature me.

[urban lodge]

Rocks was like current Zoro level so roughly equal to Lucci

[grand flower]

Lemme see

[ashen perch]

Xebec was like maybe Onigashima Luffy level

[cloud adder]

Arsal isnt ready for final saga Shanks

[grand flower]

I can see that

[brittle basin]

we don't truly know how strong Loki is yet

[grand flower]

Why not

[leaden rivet]

Do you mean like pre G5

[tranquil blade]

Does this mean current Zoro mid diffs an admiral

[ashen perch]

no

post

[tranquil blade]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-cat-madebynami-cat-think-car-think-cat-silly-gif-10256431613308407309

[steel stirrup]

Is that the best you can do? 2/10 rage bait

[ashen perch]

the one that drew with Kizaru

[grand flower]

Why didn’t you just say egghead luffy

[urban lodge]

We've known that since he learned how to cut magma

[tranquil blade]

Wait cook

[ashen perch]

well uh

[frozen aspen]

yes

[grand flower]

Well

[frozen aspen]

he cuts akainus magma

[grand flower]

It makes sense you didnt

[ashen perch]

I meant like Onigashima level after Onigashima ended

[grand flower]

Technically luffys void-century era Haki appears in egghead

[cloud adder]

What

[tranquil blade]

Oh my god

[ashen perch]

man

[tranquil blade]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[grand flower]

Oda will explain it better than I can

[urban lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-imu-imu-one-piece-butterflies-flowers-gif-3419652870965976720

[tranquil blade]

I've endured... more than enough...

No more

[steel stirrup]

That's the 2nd or 3rd dead horse that has been beaten today

[frozen aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/imu-imu-speed-imu-ishowspeed-speed-imu-ishowspeed-imu-gif-5082088216306763781

[brittle basin]

hey we never actually got Rocks bounty did we? It was covered up, right?

[cloud adder]

Are you suggesting... time travel shenanigans..?

[trim lily]

nope

[frozen aspen]

same as choppers current one

[trim lily]

oda is a coward

[brittle basin]

that's the key. he's so powerful, Oda had to hide it

[steel stirrup]

Mhm

[ashen perch]

it was just below 677M

[grand flower]

Nah. Oda is

[cloud adder]

Gimme the two sentence summary

[ashen perch]

Oda didnt reveal Xebec's bounty because he couldnt be assed to do the inflation calculation

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-carell-dont-you-dare-the-office-michael-scott-gif-9247065

[ashen perch]

he will reveal it when he feels like doing that

[tranquil blade]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-fnaf-crying-gif-24305969

[cloud adder]

Oh yeah, i didnt even notice the lack of bounty details this flashback

[brittle basin]

omfgggggg I forgot he pulled this shit with Dory and Broggy

[grand flower]

Luffy will be temporarily sent back in time. That’s how Joy boy knew all the way back then to program the Haki knot to target just the government characters and not the protagonists

[urban lodge]

Bounty inflation will never be mentioned again

[cloud adder]

Ig since rocks got erased his bounty doesnt matter

[trim lily]

oda really just plugged in dorry and broggy's bounties into a us inflation calculator over 100 years

[ashen perch]

yea, did you forget? look up "One Piece inflation" for more information

[steel stirrup]

Yep

[trim lily]

its almost the exact same lol

[cloud adder]

!never

Fuck

Nevercook

[steel stirrup]

HA

[grand flower]

Just wait

[cloud adder]

You get it

[steel stirrup]

HA AGAIN

[grand flower]

See? That’s a sign

[frozen aspen]

this is so funny, surely there is still posters circulating. No way they removed all

[cloud adder]

That was on purpose brah

[void knot]

Hey @cloud adder ! How are you today?

[steel stirrup]

Right right

[cloud adder]

Im gooooood, just a bit tired, you?

And

i miss shanks 💔

And also

[trim lily]

we just saw shanks like two chapters ago, greedy...

[cloud adder]

If oda does travel back in time stuff

[steel stirrup]

😭

[cloud adder]

One piece is going from 10/10 to 7/10 max rq

[steel stirrup]

Just yapping

[ashen perch]

its just not happening, dw about it

[void knot]

Glad to hear it! Im playing Pokémon, listening to D&D on YT Music, and watching One Piece XD so same old same old

[cloud adder]

Ppl will just say theyre made up posters if the memory of rocks is "erased"

[grand flower]

Believe in Oda

[tranquil blade]

Okay doing some very vague calculations Xebec had a bounty of 300-400 million 56 years ago

[trim lily]

ace tier

[frozen aspen]

The WG trying to convince billions of ppl all over the world that Rocks was just a mass psychosis

[cloud adder]

Sounds like a lovely Saturday, i hope youre cozy and got good snacks!

[ashen perch]

its gonna be lower than Roger's so just put like 5.4B in the same calculator that Oda used

[void knot]

I dont... I need to go to the snack store...

[ashen perch]

I think I did that already but I can't remember the results

[wraith mantle]

shruon what do you think of shakky as a character

[steel stirrup]

I can understand not liking a character but you all seem to just outright hate Rocks

Why

[digital spear]

dead chat

[cloud adder]

Naur, oda handled toki jumping forward in time ONLY perfectly, travelling back in time and affecting things will ruin one piece

[void knot]

I went to get a hot pocket earlier and when I opened my freezer.....ZERO.Hot.Pockets....

[cloud adder]

Dexter pfp saying this...

[trim lily]

people hate one piece..

[tranquil blade]

and he had like 1.6 billion 38 years ago clearly dont ask how i got the numbers

[digital spear]

yeah I did it

it fit the code

[ashen perch]

oh yea, I calculated this for Rocks, because 692=Rokkusu

[cloud adder]

Nightmare level stuff 😭

[ashen perch]

I couldnt go past 50 years for some reason

[void knot]

I felt robbed....

[ashen perch]

but close enough

[brittle basin]

higher than law and kid's. i win. good enough for me.

[steel stirrup]

The nigga infiltrated Mariejois, kidnapped 5 kings, destroyed the Gates of Justice and that was as a rookie

Why are you lowballing him so much

[trim lily]

inflation

[ashen perch]

its just inflation

[tranquil blade]

because inflation

[grand flower]

Nah it won’t. Bootstrap paradox, easy

[trim lily]

im glad we're all so knowledgeable about inflation here

[grand flower]

Like Luffy does

[brittle basin]

ur mom's an inflation

[ashen perch]

we wont even have to look up "one piece inflation" for more information

[frozen aspen]

inflation isn't real, the WG just wants more money from u

[ashen perch]

because we already know all that we need to know

[void knot]

Inflation means something completely different to me but ill leave it to your imagination on that note

[trim lily]

real and ethan-pilled

[cloud adder]

Ive heard some theories of a memo-memo user before pudding, like during or shortly after roger era, memo-memo fruit would be insanely useful to WG for this type of stuff

[steel stirrup]

He his definitely worth crazy money

[grand flower]

This is actually true for irl

We can just ignore inflation fr

[frozen aspen]

the ppl of op should simply not pay taxes, in this essay I will

[steel stirrup]

I would argue bro was bare minimum 1.5 -2 bill

[cloud adder]

Googling this

[tranquil blade]

Xebec was worth roughly 4.9 billion in today's berries when he died so his bounty would have to be 1.6-1.7 billion 38 years ago

[trim lily]

nami not paying taxes will be the catalyst for her fight against ethan

[vestal mural]

Thank you for solving the global economic crisis

[steel stirrup]

Thats seems right

[void knot]

We should just start using bottle caps for currency since actual fallout will occur any day now.

[trim lily]

bury your gold

[grand flower]

One day you wake up and your juice is gone. That’s strange you just bought some. Oh well

You go to the store to buy more and you meet the person who becomes your spouse

50 years later, they invent time travel. You use it to go back in time and steal your juice to make sure you go meet your spouse at the store

[cloud adder]

this idea is absolute dogwater, never cook again

[grand flower]

Go watch terminator 1 and 2

[ashen perch]

wait I thought you made that up

[cloud adder]

Cute for a romance fanfic but not in my wan pisu

[urban lodge]

I'm gonna leave the math to you all because I'm lazy but Rocks' current bounty would be exactly 3.188 billion

[cloud adder]

[tranquil blade]

No this is actually real I used the calc for it

[trim lily]

the calc

[grand flower]

Just wait

[urban lodge]

(Buggy's bounty is 1 million higher)

[ashen perch]

same calculator that Oda used btw

so its reliable

[ashen perch]

ah

[cloud adder]

Ill wait (for shanks)

[hard brook]

Calc=calculator btw

[trim lily]

does this mean we can assume the world of one piece has the same economy as the united states

[ashen perch]

yeah

[grand flower]

Shanks’ inherited luffys will

[ashen perch]

no wonder Hamburg hosted the Reverie

[tranquil blade]

Does this mean the world of one piece doesnt have free healthcare

Im sorry

[trim lily]

it might not

[ashen perch]

wait not hamburg

what was his name

[cloud adder]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-luffy-shanks-roger-we-go-gif-25047916

[trim lily]

isnt it ham burger

[urban lodge]

Ham Burger

[ashen perch]

ham burger

hamburg is the Foxy guy

I just checked

[trim lily]

bravo oda

[urban lodge]

And of course Drum

[trim lily]

next youll tell me the guy that looks british is named tea

[bold sonnet]

Do it reverse

[tranquil blade]

All I remember is that he walks slowly but he never turns back

[bold sonnet]

[ashen perch]

Oda explaining Americans in One Piece: Imagine a burger

[tranquil blade]

King Taco is still kinda absurd

[urban lodge]

If Oda is bright Imu will be the original king of Ballywood

[steel stirrup]

The guy who looks Mexican is named King Taco

[frozen aspen]

thats how they are irl

[cloud adder]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-luffy-shanks-gif-6904003012097754354

[frozen aspen]

Americans will never beat burger allegations

[hard brook]

King taco was odas lowest point ibr

[trim lily]

oda would be goated at designing the next punch out game

nintendo should sign him on

[graceful belfry]

Yum

[bold sonnet]

[tranquil blade]

Burgers are actually not that bad there's worse allegations to have

[ashen perch]

Ham Burger hosted the latest reverie as its Chairman because Ballywood used to be ruled by the Nerona Family

[wraith mantle]

why?

[cloud adder]

SOON

[steel stirrup]

Where did this come from

[trim lily]

thank you one piece wiki for this trivia

[hard brook]

His name is taco and his country is basically Mexico

[merry field]

This kills me too

[tranquil blade]

His country is called the land of the dead btw

[ashen perch]

Hamburger did host the reverie, he was the chairman, thats canon

[cloud adder]

One piece lincoln my goat

[latent hamlet]

put them on the revs team
they do more than dragon

[frozen aspen]

these guys were lowkey funny though

[latent hamlet]

[tranquil blade]

I mean yeah this was bad

[ashen perch]

Nerona Imu left his kingdom in this guy's care

[graceful belfry]

This is 100% the worst stereotyping in the manga

[urban lodge]

Yeah and america is the ultimate evil so it fits perfectly

[tranquil blade]

but like pretty funny too

[stone terrace]

Now THIS one is worthy of concern

[bold sonnet]

Holy its Abe

[stone terrace]

[steel stirrup]

Nah i mean where did you get the notion that the Nerona family ruled over Ballywood specifically?

[ashen perch]

look

[frozen aspen]

Imu being american explains everything about the WG

[trim lily]

i feel like king ramen might beat king tacos

[grand flower]

@ashen perch @stone tulip @frail kindle @hot cairn @hazy turret @cloud adder

[ashen perch]

The government is bad in the series, Abdullah and Jeet are part of the Grand Fleet as good guys

[trim lily]

they did try to kill kuma though

[grand flower]

https://tenor.com/view/anton-chigurh-no-country-for-old-men-ok-oops-javier-bardem-gif-10579690

[ashen perch]

Oda didnt mean it like a bad thing

[hard brook]

😭oda the GOAT

[ashen perch]

bombing the World Government buildings is GOOD

[wraith mantle]

expect nothing from oda and you wont be surprised

[ashen perch]

Abdullah and Jeet are goated for that

[tranquil blade]

Okay Luffy associates with a lot of shitty people arsal idk if that means much

[steel stirrup]

No answer?

[hard brook]

King ramen this mf was just naming kings from his room

[grand flower]

Theyre called terrorists

[trim lily]

im sure they had pure intentions while doing so

[wraith mantle]

are you fr?

[trim lily]

man why did abdullah and jeet get to stick around and not jean ango

[ashen perch]

and Luffy is buddies with them

[tranquil blade]

He's licking his fucking sword dude you cant make this shit up

[urban lodge]

What better choice is there for the original king of the america equivalent than the most evil character in the series

[latent hamlet]

ye
terrorism

[grand flower]

@tranquil blade check this out

[trim lily]

hey zoro does that too

[steel stirrup]

@ashen perch

[trim lily]

swordsmen are a bunch of freaks

[tranquil blade]

Well Zoro is evil

[grand flower]

The main antagonist

[cloud adder]

Toei piece as your source

[grand flower]

@wet condor check this out

[ashen perch]

oh I cant say it

[latent hamlet]

Mihawk is the strongest swordsman
cuz he doesnt lick his sword

[trim lily]

mihawk will not die early from disease

[wraith mantle]

defending abdullah and jeet protrayal is wild work

[trim lily]

i bet thats how roger died

[grand flower]

Wym

[steel stirrup]

Can you tell me why you cant tell me

[hard brook]

It’s just names

How is abdullah and jeet bad names

[ashen perch]

wait are you talking about the names? because those are wresting references lol

[bold sonnet]

[ashen perch]

its Tiger Jeet Singh and Abdullah the Butcher

Oda loves wrestling

[grand flower]

It comes off to people like he’s being racist to brown people

But like Arsal said, theyre wrestling references

[ashen perch]

Abdullah even has the same scars on his forehead, that Abdullah the Butcher had

[wraith mantle]

oh they are wrestling references

[ashen perch]

yeah

[steel stirrup]

Yea theres also Ripley, Goldberg, Spandams design was inspired by Mankind (Mick Foley)

[wraith mantle]

interesting, bit too close to being racist imo

[graceful belfry]

The names were never really the issue lol

[stone terrace]

Well

[hard brook]

Just people’s interpretations of it, but I’m glad they are at least included.

[stone terrace]

Consider that vince mcmahon

Was TURBO racist

And it falls into place

[steel stirrup]

😭

[stone terrace]

[trim lily]

goda

[ashen perch]

slightly graphic

[graceful belfry]

Full circle racism right there

[ashen perch]

but this is what Abdullah is a reference to

[frozen aspen]

mihawk will die due to a certain disease

[ashen perch]

and Jeet is a reference to Tiger Jeet Singh lol, not what youre thinking at all yea

[bold sonnet]

I was thinking something else ngl

[ashen perch]

and he picked that name for himself

[bold sonnet]

😭

[digital spear]

dead chat

[ashen perch]

not Vince

[trim lily]

bread chat

[urban lodge]

YC trying to make up for Merry's absence

[wraith mantle]

bring back merry for april fools

[grand flower]

The wrestlers weren’t Vince guys lol

[ashen perch]

I dont think he even wrestled for VInce, he was only a manager for his son, Tiger Ali Singh

[grand flower]

Yeah they predate rhe fed

[ashen perch]

yeah

[grand flower]

And were in WCW instead of WWF by the time the fed was a thing

[digital spear]

he left a hole...

[cloud adder]

Idk wrestling but someone said vince so i posted top 3 vince gif

[ashen perch]

but anyways, as for the bombing the government part

I dont think Oda meant that as a bad thing per se

[stone terrace]

He dont got internet

[ashen perch]

Luffy is pals with them

they are part of the grand fleet

they are not meant to be like that

[cloud adder]

ucy update when

[grand flower]

They cameo in a top 3 flashback too

[ashen perch]

oh yea the Kuma flashback

[hard brook]

He will Oda whispered it to me as I slept yesterday

[cloud adder]

arsal what percent chance are you putting on the "shanks dies to imu" take

[ashen perch]

uhh

60-70%

[cloud adder]

Ok, fair

[steel stirrup]

🙄

[graceful belfry]

Taking BB’s kill

[tranquil blade]

oh my god bruh

[urban lodge]

Poor Mimi didn't get it

[cloud adder]

But like, isnt dragon dying to imu

Imu cant have this many kills when kaido barely got one

[ashen perch]

Dragon is living a long life and dying of natural causes

[steel stirrup]

Still aint got it or just ignoring it

[ashen perch]

like the man who he is based upon

[native cloud]

Arsal

??

[bold sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/south-park-67-67-south-park-67-south-park-6-7-gif-13284396363591354590

[graceful belfry]

“Disney ahh ending” incoming

[cloud adder]

I think 60%+ chance dragon dies but im hoping he doesnt

[latent hamlet]

"DRAGON WE'RE IN DANGER WE NEED YOU TO FIGHT THIS BAD GUY"

"who said i fight?"

[cloud adder]

[latent hamlet]

"u must have an amazing devil fruit or haki powers right??"
"uhh i turned in my gun when i quit the navy"

[trim lily]

dragon can fight sommers then die to imu or something

let the younger generation handle this

[ashen perch]

okay I do actually expect a ton of deaths, its just not these guys

[cloud adder]

dragon is leagues above sommers

Sommers is a lower tier victim

[ashen perch]

I actually think Oda is gonna be ruthless in the final war

[hard brook]

If someone dies I want someone in the straw hats to die

[bold sonnet]

Be fr
Only 6-7 people are gonna die

[steel stirrup]

You genuinely believe the son of Garp and the father of Luffy doesn't have haki or are you just joking

[tranquil blade]

Sommers is unfortuantely slightly strong but not strong enough to be a challenge to Dragon

[graceful belfry]

The primary antagonists pretty much have to die atp. As for protags, I’m sure there’ll be a few casualties

[hard brook]

And I think everyone knows who his name is, it starts with U

[ashen perch]

Because Oda's philosophy with these things is simple, you dont die because he wants to use you in the future, thats not a thing in the final war.

[grand flower]

Ha

[cloud adder]

I think we're losing 2-4 good guys and like 5+ villains dying

[ashen perch]

its over after it

[frozen aspen]

he will die of intense diarrhea

[grand flower]

Oh

[cloud adder]

But oda has said he doesnt like to kill good guys because then the post-party vibe is down

[grand flower]

@ashen perch you didn’t respond to my tag

[tranquil blade]

Oh that's

[ashen perch]

so, if theres no future arc for anyone to return to, theres no need for them to have a future at all

[latent hamlet]

He will
To every1 that doesnt matter

[bold sonnet]

Not with those hairline

[steel stirrup]

You really believe that Garps son and Luffys father doesn't have haki?

[ashen perch]

anime does its thing, I dont take it seriously just yet

[frozen aspen]

yes

[ashen perch]

Elbaf would change that

[hard brook]

How did dragon get a fuckass hairline when garp didn’t

[grand flower]

Tsk tsk

[ashen perch]

cause they said they are going to consult Oda in greater detail with Elbaf

[latent hamlet]

I dont care what he may or may not have until we see it

[cloud adder]

Noted

[frozen aspen]

his momma was ugly as hell

[grand flower]

Stress

[muted hedge]

i'm so excited for toei to adapt Elbaph, we already saw a glimpse of it when Shanks was going up against Kid and it looked gorgeous

[steel stirrup]

Then why did you bring it up?

[tranquil blade]

Dragon got his grandfather's genetics

[graceful belfry]

The receding hair gene skips a generation

[hard brook]

That guy was looking at oceans daily bru

[ashen perch]

I liked the idea of Dragon looking like that because its a Denjiro type deal but he actually really did always look like that

[graceful belfry]

Which just means what Avery said

[storm spindle]

[latent hamlet]

Because im memeing on arsal's joke of dragon dying of natural causes?

[steel stirrup]

Memes are supposed be funny tho

[ashen perch]

GV killed that idea dead unfortunately, he should've had his face warped out of anger and stress and whatnot

[frozen aspen]

crazy how if u remove the widows peak and give him eyebrows he's probably actually look good

[tranquil blade]

If my hair recedes I might have to jump I cant be bald

[tranquil blade]

and if nose wasnt a downvote

[frozen aspen]

go to turkey

[hard brook]

If dragon had dreads maybe it could save him

[wet condor]

I don't know why dudes hate the idea of being bald so much

[hard brook]

Or locks, his hair is saveable

[urban lodge]

Someone needs to make a Dragon version of the Buffy Kid to Kenny gif

[tranquil blade]

No Im just gonna take estrogen instead

[wet condor]

When my hairline starts receding I'll just go with it lol

[frozen aspen]

sure his nose is not up to beary standards but there is plenty of other characters whose nose isn't either and they look far better than him

[latent hamlet]

Some doods like having hair

[hard brook]

I’ve always had thick hair so if I do bald I can just cover it

[frozen aspen]

based

[frozen aspen]

hair loss makes u evil, haven't u watched Brba

[wet condor]

Like if your shit is pulled back all the way into the middle of your head, stop holding onto that man

Let it go

[hard brook]

https://tenor.com/view/balding-white-chicks-gif-8309186738606886317

[steel stirrup]

Just come on home

[latent hamlet]

ok if its like an unsalvageable dying strands amount then sure i'd say get rid of it

[hard brook]

If it looks like this let that shit go

[latent hamlet]

at that point just wig it up if anything

[hard brook]

Nah putting a wig on everyday is too much

[dense haven]

receding hairline gotta be the worst type

[fossil nimbus]

!animo

[tropic nova]

Next episode comes out on <t:1765123200:F> <t:1765123200:R> (time zone adjusted)

[wet condor]

I remember in college guys were going bald at 20

[dense haven]

weak genes

[wet condor]

Their hairline well back past the edge of their forehead

[latent hamlet]

I mean I imagine when u go home u ditch it

[tranquil blade]

If you're going bald at 20 it's honestly over tho

Like it's over over

[wet condor]

Afraid of going bald. And we'd crack jokes about it but I really do not see the issue with going bald at that age lol

[hard brook]

Okay 6ft, weightlifter body that can do somersaults gymnast

[dense haven]

depends because some people look good going bald

[random hinge]

simply choose to not be bald idk

[dense haven]

especially if they have avoid beard

[ashen perch]

Also forgot to reply but that was centuries ago, Ashura and Izo died and they just mourned and they partied anyways after a week had passed. Its not something Oda believes in anymore.

[dense haven]

a good beard*

[wet condor]

Yeah but fr

If you can grow a good beard, just go with it

[tranquil blade]

For a man you just have to get a beard and then you can become kratos

[ashen perch]

VP in Egghead was a bit of a special case cause Luffy felt personally responsible for that, so he didnt want to party immediately

[hard brook]

That is way to much effort,

[urban lodge]

I'm fully convinced Oda took some inspiration from Kratos for Harald

[dense haven]

unfortunately not every man is blessed with beard genes either

[latent hamlet]

But u either have to get an angry voice or deep pitch voice to sell the bit

[dense haven]

some mfs look like they glued pubic hair to their faces

[ashen perch]

speaking of him, the Kaido theories...

really just not happening atp

[ashen perch]

the portrait of him at the end of the chapter reminded me of them again

[frigid gulch]

Harald looks good bald

[latent hamlet]

Harald became bald to get WG endorsement

[urban lodge]

Oh yeah

Those are super dead

[latent hamlet]

Cuz elders are bald

[ashen perch]

but Oda just designed a guy who looked like Kaido I guess, nothing more to it

[frigid gulch]

He’s prob just rocking with it atp

It meant nothing

[dense haven]

must be a parallel

[urban lodge]

He does look good bald WITHOUT the horns specifically

[frigid gulch]

Unless he can’t grow hair fr

[urban lodge]

With the horns he looked like shit

[latent hamlet]

Imagine hornless hair harald

[dense haven]

hairald

[frigid gulch]

Harbald

[latent hamlet]

Harald would beat imu if he had hair and horns

[pine scaffold]

https://x.com/BoruDBrian/status/1996761441798705278

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#onepiece

X · Dec 5, 2025, 2:00 AM

[latent hamlet]

Bald and hornless made him weak

[frigid gulch]

Loki after Rocks’ death

[ashen perch]

next chapter is about to be a real tearjerker

[wet condor]

For about half the fandom

Other half?

[latent hamlet]

Nah we'll just get half of the people saying "dum mfer deserves death"

[tranquil blade]

Yeah when it comes out in like 2 weeks

[ashen perch]

what why

[wet condor]

https://tenor.com/view/ripbozo-packwatch-rip-bozo-pack-watch-smoking-smoke-gif-25173473

[frigid gulch]

“Please just kill me” part 3

[pine scaffold]

Me after Rocks death

[ashen perch]

oh yea they are stupid

[tranquil blade]

because it's Harald

[ashen perch]

right right

[wet condor]

Cause some people actually really hate Harald

[latent hamlet]

Meanwhile the small %

W LOKI

LOKI UPSCALE

PIRATE KING +++ TIER

[bold sonnet]

Socrates

[pine scaffold]

I wish Oda was a little more consistent with his sizes

[ashen perch]

I do think itd be weird to not have empathy for him regardless of your opinion of his decisions

[ashen perch]

but people be weird

[latent hamlet]

Demon Harald would be crazy strong tho tbf since thats essentially demon rocks level too

[ashen perch]

it really doesnt matter, what looks right for the panel is what matters

[frozen aspen]

not weak just stupid. Ripped his brain out along with the horns

[ashen perch]

thats what Oda tries to focus on

[pine scaffold]

Harald this chap looked way too small ngl

[ashen perch]

think of it like this

[pine scaffold]

but Oda's health was bad so

[ashen perch]

the Gorosei are all like 9 feet tall

and Harald is in the foreground

[pine scaffold]

yeah but Harald should still be massive

[ashen perch]

its not a big deal

[frail kindle]

You act like Oda has been consistent with the size of characters since day 1

[frigid gulch]

Sometimes it’s perspective but that one panel with Saul

[pine scaffold]

he makes Hajrudin look like a toddler

[wet condor]

He doesn't deserve what's about to happen to yeah lol

[frigid gulch]

[hazy turret]

Um so?

[fallen meteor]

mods ban this user i'm bald and hornless this is a personal attack

[hard brook]

I like harald he isn’t the typical hero, sort of like the timid office worker afraid of being fired type of deal

[ashen perch]

just think the Gorosei are closer to the camera than him

[dense haven]

if it doesn't matter then why yall spend hours arguing over details lulw

[frozen aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/bald-comb-no-hair-hair-hairstyle-gif-698594237738928206

[ashen perch]

I havent ever taken size complaints seriously

the worst was probably Enma

but even that was more funny to me than bad

[vital heart]

Enma has a devil fruit in it

[void knot]

This but out of context tho

[fallen meteor]

i was thinking of making a joke about it

[vital heart]

Oda thinks that size doesn’t matter

[ashen perch]

again, just assume that the Gorosei are very close to the camera compared to Harald in that one panel

its really just one panel

that people are complaining about

[pine scaffold]

if Oda just made everyone normal sizes, there'd be no issue

[ashen perch]

its a giant

[frail kindle]

Let the man live his life

[vital heart]

giants arent real arsal

Not in real life

[void knot]

Imagine my pov.i got back on and this was the first thing I saw

[latent hamlet]

The real question is why their room so massive

Mfers listening to their echo

[tranquil blade]

They are tho Meek

[ashen perch]

no but like you cant really make this giant normal

[vital heart]

Andre?

[fallen meteor]

lmao

[tranquil blade]

Didnt you hear?

[thick mango]

I think you're just supposed to accept sizing isnt consistent and go along for the ride

[vital heart]

Fun fact: Andre the giant isnt actually a giant

[pine scaffold]

The castle was never this big tbh

[frozen aspen]

tbf having the sizes be accurate would be incredibly inconvenient. Harald is already small in this panel, imagine how tiny he'd have to draw the gorosei to keep thebsizes accurate

[ashen perch]

pretty much

[tranquil blade]

Nono I'm not talking about that

[latent hamlet]

Had to resize it for harald

[vital heart]

Oda is a shitty artist that knows how to make an emotional story.

[frozen aspen]

anyways its a waste of time to argue about that shit

[vital heart]

#hottake

[ashen perch]

you can mostly handwave away the complaints by assuming thats its a trick of the hidden camera though

[hard brook]

Oda just does what the fuck he wants and we have to take it like a good boys

[ashen perch]

it resolves like 70% of the complaints

[void knot]

Apparently the Gorosei are up to Harold's shins if Oda is the only source

[ashen perch]

but general the answer is simple

Oda draws what he feels is gonna look right on the panel

[vital heart]

Oda is a shitty artist when it comes to realism.

[ashen perch]

he cant just be drawing the Gorosei as dots there, so he made them bigger in size

its what looked right for that panel

[frozen aspen]

oda is a shitty artist when it comes to a lot of things

[thick mango]

Honestly i just prefer it as is. I wouldn't want the alternate universe where consistent accurate sizes are prioritized over the composition of the scene

[void knot]

He could've just drawn 5 dots at the bottom of the throneroom stairs and we would've known they were the gorosei.

[vital heart]

What? Why not?

Id love that

[hard brook]

I love his colour panels though

[vital heart]

Imagine Marineford or Onigashima with accurate sizes @thick mango

[hard brook]

Everyone of them are beautiful

[thick mango]

Cause who cares about accuracy it's a fantasy story about magic pirates. Rule of cool

[ashen perch]

and this panel, I bet, is something he thought was absolutely hilarious

[hard brook]

The actual manga ehhhhhhh

[ashen perch]

so the Gorosei are almost shrunk here lol

[pine scaffold]

his boot would have been taking up the entire panel

if it was accurate

[ashen perch]

they shouldnt be THIS small

but yea, its just what looks good

[fallen meteor]

isnt his feet insanely small for his leg size here

[void knot]

Even this is too big for the gorosei compared to Harold based on earlier depictions.

[ashen perch]

no its not

the Gorosei are tall as hell

[tranquil blade]

Why are his legs so damn skinny

[pine scaffold]

COME ON MAN

[thick mango]

I don't think it would have made them cooler. I think if it were cooler to have them be bigger they woulda just been bigger

[ashen perch]

also I dont think Harald is actually as tall as Loki, idk where people are getting that from

[void knot]

Harold is nearly twice the height of an ordinary giant and humans dont even come up to the ankles of regular giants

[tranquil blade]

This is literally wrong tho

[ashen perch]

I think Loki is a real special case

[hazy echo]

Loki is stated to be as big as Oars

[tranquil blade]

For example Jarul is way too short

[hard brook]

The sense of height is all over the place that panels like this don’t work as well as they really should

[bold sonnet]

Yeah, Loki seems way bigger than Harald

[hazy echo]

There’s no way Harald’s the same height

[frozen aspen]

isn't jarul lokis height

[pine scaffold]

this got retconned

[ashen perch]

Jarul got taller

[pine scaffold]

cuz Jarul now makes dorry and broggy look tiny

[ashen perch]

no its accurate to his WCI height lol

[fallen meteor]

jarul has the hair logia he floats inside his beard

[hazy echo]

Wait actually

[lofty fern]

They say Loki is as big as Oars, but Harald is not that much bigger than Hajrudin? Not sure how this even works anymore

[fossil nimbus]

theres no way Oars is that big compared to a normal giant?

[hazy echo]

This one panel disproves it

[bold sonnet]

Loki was taller but he is a growing boy so it makes sense for him to grow even bigger

[ashen perch]

Oars is 67M, Loki is probably somewhere around that

but I am saying Harald isnt confirmed to be that tall

[void knot]

How much older than Loki is Hajrudin? I forget

[hazy echo]

Loki's the younger one

[lofty fern]

But wouldn't that be about as big as Harald?

[ashen perch]

yeah I was talking about Harald...

[hard brook]

This is literally an example of Oda doing whatever the fuck he wants

[fossil nimbus]

The guards are so dumb, after Harald screamed for them to call Loki they couldn't encourage loki and jarul to move faster?

[hazy echo]

Oooh Harald