also-manga

[vital heart]

Can you draw what you mean?

I like that idea im ngl

[dense rapids]

With the sea Devil in the middle

[vital heart]

How does Imu maintain control over the Sea Devil in the Florian Triangle?

[royal orchid]

the Florian triangle monsters are parts of Imu's real body at the bottom of the sea

[dense rapids]

Yea that’s the main theory

[vital heart]

Imu got a big dih then

ho ho ho sorry

im gonna go

fr this time

[royal orchid]

a hungry man thinks of bread

[dense rapids]

I’m saying what if they’re just two separate entities and Imu is simply controlling it

Hear me out

Wadatsumi is the Sea Monk (Umibozu)

Who was controlled by vander Decken

In Jinbei cover story we get like a repeat of enter TB arc

[vital heart]

Is Vander Decken an Imu parallel?

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/wadatsumi-one-piece-fishman-wci-whole-cake-island-gif-12285172658755817175

[vital heart]

Imu = Tontatta

[wraith mantle]

Fucking hate this nigga

[vital heart]

You hate tortas?

Tortos*?

[wraith mantle]

Idk what his name is

But yeah the guy in the gif

[dense rapids]

Usopp even calls Wadatsumi “Umibozu” in FMI

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/sanji-kick-sanji-fishman-island-fmi-sanji-fight-gif-16853702841095888370

[dense rapids]

And everyone speculates this is Umibozu

[vital heart]

Holy spam

[dense rapids]

You guys get what I’m saying?

[blazing depot]

Brother you are the LAST person to talk

[vital heart]

You sayin I spam

?

[blazing depot]

Yes you do

I’ve seen you spam

[vital heart]

Show me an example.

Show me an example.

[blazing depot]

You space out your messages

[bleak plover]

Oda struck me from left field with the Florian Triangle mention.

[blazing depot]

Like

This

[bleak plover]

That old geezer better not forget about the shadows.

[vital heart]

Thats not spam, necessarily.

[bleak plover]

Meek your messages do count as spam.

[vital heart]

No they do not, necessarily.

[vital heart]

I barely ever do this. All my messages are usually tightly packed in 1 message

[royal orchid]

thinking meek will get warned for spamming

https://tenor.com/view/imu-imu-speed-imu-ishowspeed-speed-imu-ishowspeed-imu-gif-5082088216306763781

[vital heart]

I have a total of 3 warns

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/yungviral-gif-570542313379526372

[urban sluice]

which you shouldnt post publicly

[vital heart]

Why?

😭

2/3 are from 2020

[urban sluice]

no good reason to, and they just derail the chat about breaking rules

[vital heart]

Okay

I have a relevant gif to match this situation that's also OP related

Wanna see?

https://tenor.com/view/discord-discordia-discordian-discord-mod-one-piece-gif-602419008531224257

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/uta-uta-one-piece-one-piece-one-piece-film-red-halloween-gif-27014214

[trim lily]

https://tenor.com/view/uta-gif-2811902962345817917

[blazing depot]

You ain’t Roger bro your spandam

[wraith mantle]

Is uta a shit character?

[vital heart]

How am I a spandam parallel

I got CoC like Roger.... Kagutsuchi's Ace!!

[blazing depot]

Annoying and you hide behind protection from the mods AKA CP9

[bleak plover]

https://tenor.com/view/james-jose-mourinho-i-prefer-not-to-speak-gif-20644287

[blazing depot]

And the mods don’t even like you

[wraith mantle]

Whoa

[blazing depot]

They just need you cuz you translate

[wraith mantle]

Chill on Meeks

[blazing depot]

I am speaking my mind!!

[royal orchid]

!me?

[tropic nova]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1010993473098354830/1013039429406969866/last_final.png

[vital heart]

It's freedom of speech.

[wraith mantle]

No

[royal orchid]

there's only one meeks

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/key-and-peele-obama-handshake-gif-14751410

I thought I was just a hater

[stone terrace]

Got a problem with meek you got a problem with me

[sage temple]

And then when you call Meek out on the rules he breaks the mods try to either change the topic or act like you have a personal agenda against him like a madman

[wet condor]

What're y'all talking about

[vital heart]

Again, what rules have I broken?

[wet condor]

Hasn't meek gotten muted for spamming on several occasions?

[vital heart]

https://tenor.com/view/true-truth-nuke-gif-16311706538314561226

[wet condor]

I see we have a returning server member

Steph has come back

[sage temple]

Spamming, Political/controversial comments, & Crass jokes

[wet condor]

Sometimes he does throw a lil' bit of politics in the mix lol

[trim lily]

a smidgen

[stone terrace]

Meek just gets a lil excited sometimes

Gotta be reigned in

[wraith mantle]

Meek merely exercising his freedom of speech

[sage temple]

But he never gets punished for saying those political comments

[vital heart]

I have stopped spamming ever since November 29. The politics are just a reference for those who get it - its hardly ever explicit and its always meant to be funny. I do not have any crass jokes, only funny jokes

[wet condor]

LMAOOO

That first sentence

[ruby moat]

One piece itself is political

[vital heart]

https://tenor.com/view/fnb-get-this-man-a-true-gif-25257480

[ruby moat]

Therefore meek gets the odd political comment

Simple as that

[wraith mantle]

Idk if meek actually tries to be funny lmao

[vital heart]

I am very funny

[trim lily]

famously so

[vital heart]

I should get into standup

Be like

Uh

[sage temple]

If I break all the rules but my intention is to be funny about it that doesn't mean I should just be given leeway

[ruby moat]

I came up with a pretty good joke that could work at standup recently

U guys wanna hear it

[wet condor]

I feel like the mods cut you a break too lol

[wet condor]

Sure

[sage temple]

Can I have an example

[ruby moat]

Socrates don’t forget that we had a ban bet that you lost and you came back after only a week

[sage temple]

?

[ruby moat]

My intention was for that bet to be permanent

[sage temple]

Ban bets aren't a thing in this server

[ruby moat]

You guys hear about the national penny shortage? Id give my two cents but, well you know

[trim lily]

not penny

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/tentofate-elmo-elmo-staring-gif-11901234066681497328

[wraith mantle]

Penny is short?

[ruby moat]

Wrong gif I think u meant to send the one where Elmo is laughing gleefully

[vital heart]

https://tenor.com/view/monsters-pixar-inc-monstersinc-mike-gif-21326421

[ruby moat]

That one’s an original I’m pretty proud of it tbh

I give permission for any of u guys to steal it

[bleak plover]

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-friends-mr-boss-dap-up-dap-hand-shake-gif-17813953548000062507

[wet condor]

Your behavior is kind of like Ishy's and he got banned which is I'm thinking of.

[bleak plover]

Now that's what I call good comedy.

[ruby moat]

Hell yea

[wet condor]

Welcome back Steph

[bleak plover]

https://tenor.com/view/umamusume-uma-musume-its-peak-its-so-peak-umazing-gif-3466440184519113997

[vital heart]

Welcome back Steph

Steph, by any chance, do you remember me?

[ruby moat]

I have an aunt named Steph… that’s not you is it?

[vital heart]

From the good ol days (Pandemic)

[bleak plover]

You oughta brush your teeth more, kid.

[wet condor]

No one could forget you Meek

[ruby moat]

I brush my teeth enough!!

[sage temple]

Yeah, can I get an example of where my behavior broke the rules but the mods cut me a break like you said

[bleak plover]

https://tenor.com/view/george-lopez-confused-unsure-eh-meh-gif-17561709

[royal orchid]

not "thrice a day", not "all the time", not "every day", "enough".

[ionic palm]

think someone has British teeth here

[wet condor]

Well, I don't think you necessarily break the rules. I don't know if Ishy really did either. But people get kind of annoyed with you lol

[distant vine]

😬

[wet condor]

What did Ishy get banned for again?

[sage temple]

Yeah I know. But it's established that the mods don't cut me breaks so idk why spread that narrative

[distant vine]

I really do appreciate that Monet and Vergo are simply just dead

That was very good of Oda

[ionic palm]

unironically funny that Monet is the only female OP character that actually ever died in the present day of the story

[stone terrace]

Oda had to switch it up one time

[ruby moat]

well going by most people i technically don't brush enough, I brush once a day, at night, but I just go extra hard so it counts for the morning one as well

[wraith mantle]

Is Vergo dead?

[ionic palm]

yes

[stone terrace]

Monet is kinda useless good candidate

[royal orchid]

the bacteria in the afternoon:

[ruby moat]

i also floss every day which is more than most ppl do so that also helps

[ionic palm]

Im still somewhat holding onto that ancient theory of Monet's logia fruit reincarnating into one of Nami's tangerines :d

[stone terrace]

Nami would be a really bad gardener to not notice by now

[wet condor]

I'm sure some people have gotten banned or muted when the mods felt they were being too annoying lol

[ionic palm]

tbf, there's alot of tangerines there and there hasn't really been a break or period of time of which she and everyone else could check on them throughout, they're constantly on the move and aren't on the ship most of the time

[leaden rivet]

Sócrates almost gone already. We’re close.

[sage temple]

Oh I almost forgot

I outlived your expiration date

[leaden rivet]

Your new one is end of January

Im more confident in this one

[sage temple]

"You have until November then you’re gone"

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-meme-trying-not-to-laugh-laugh-homeless-gif-9458928528704746136

[leaden rivet]

Well I had too much faith in the mods

I’ve embraced reality

[wet condor]

I've never applied for mod because I'd be tyrannical lol

[leaden rivet]

This server would benefit from helpers that think before they do things

Would be very useful

[vital heart]

What arc do you guys think is gonna be after Elbaf? Vote Below:

⛵ Lode Star
👑 Laugh Tale
🏴‍☠️ Hachinosu
⚔️ Vira
🏰 Marie Geoise
❓ Other??

[frigid gulch]

Evilfactor

[wet condor]

I cannot be trusted with power

[sage temple]

I'm glad some of these mods are retired

[frigid gulch]

Ban everyone that disagrees

[leaden rivet]

Sometimes tyranny is needed to keep people in check

[leaden rivet]

None of the ones that retired were the problematic ones lol

[sage temple]

Especially Adam bro he wants me banned so bad 😭

[ionic palm]

ngl, would probably trust you more than someone like that r/Art reddit mod that crashed out on everyone the other day over getting shit on :d

[wraith mantle]

Reddit drama?

[vital heart]

I'm so scared for the end of Elbaf

I have said, on the record, for the staff to permanently ban me once Elbaf is over.

My time is ticking.

[sage temple]

Nothing will convince me Adam didn't have a reign of terror when he was in service

[wet condor]

I'm surprised Hathor has lasted as long as he has

[wraith mantle]

You think Oda gonna fumble?

[vital heart]

@wraith mantle

[leaden rivet]

That’s actually some bs

[wet condor]

Because he's worked some nerves too

[leaden rivet]

People have been banned for far far less

[proud pivot]

xude which chapyet do u think elbaf will end

[wraith mantle]

Oof

[vital heart]

1225

[wet condor]

The mods are actually doing a good job at being impartial

[leaden rivet]

Most encounters I’ve had with him a relatively chill

[still mason]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-yasuie-shimotsuki-yasuie-yasu-yasu-one-piece-gif-10420830069557552809

[proud pivot]

1194

[trim lily]

hathor is part of the shadow admins

[wet condor]

Adam was chill yeah

[vital heart]

Adam and Pasta seem like the same person to me.

[wraith mantle]

He doesn’t break rules

[royal orchid]

Elbaf end on 1170 pleasseeeee

[ionic palm]

you probably got like 2-3 years, thats enough time :d

[royal orchid]

purpleism

[trim lily]

it might end on 1170

[wraith mantle]

Kinda dumb to ban someone if they don’t actively break the rules

[leaden rivet]

Idk if that’s the right word for it lol

[vital heart]

Partisan

[still mason]

Does Oda even have plans after Elbaf?

[trim lily]

no

[thick mango]

Would yall agree that bb vs shanks has to happen before any sh vs bb confrontation

[sage temple]

Yeah right

[vital heart]

No

[sage temple]

[trim lily]

i don’t think so

[leaden rivet]

Ive known several people in manga that got banned for the same manner Hathor did

[trim lily]

luffy has to meet shanks first

he can’t die without meeting luffy

[stone terrace]

Hathor got banned?

[wet condor]

I was gonna say lol

[ionic palm]

eh, I think Shanks vs Luffy clashing is more likely to occur sooner than BB and Luffy facing off :d

[leaden rivet]

No

[sage temple]

Not rly

[leaden rivet]

Im just saying people got banned for far less far earlier

[leaden rivet]

It’s like he had a shield lol

[wet condor]

I was thinking a bunch of guys in #manga have gotten banned for baiting too hard. But I have not spoken in there in years

[proud pivot]

@wet heron ban this guy for still being in halloween spirits

[mighty shell]

are you aware this has been a meme for years

[sage temple]

😭 Loki making me ctfu

[vital heart]

Poll! During the Void Century flashback, will Joyboy's mother die??

React with ✅ if you think YES
React with ❌ if you think NO

[sage temple]

Ngl I agree

[vital heart]

🤝

[leaden rivet]

The entire kid fan population like last year was wiped out for rage baiting in manga

[lofty fern]

So @vital heart what's your punishment going to be?

[thick mango]

Ok to be clear i mean that shanks fight before luffy fight. the order could potentially be
meet shanks > bb vs shanks > bb vs sh
it also could be
bb vs shanks but he doesnt die

[proud pivot]

i dont think oda will show his mom and dad'

[vital heart]

When Viz comes out, I'm asking for a 2 week mute from the server. No communication through DMs, either.

[formal wagon]

[ionic palm]

was it that bad? wasnt active during that time

[thick mango]

the only thing im saying is that bb vs sh cant come before bb vs shanks, meeting shanks could still go a few places

[wraith mantle]

Imu’s mom is definitely gonna die a tragic death

[leaden rivet]

It’s not as bad as that sounds but several of them did get banned

[wet condor]

I think shanks vs BB happens before Shankvs vs straw hats

[royal orchid]

nahhhh oda saw this message and went just above it

[thick mango]

basically my line of thought is that any bb vs SH will have some finality to it which means bb vs rhp has no space to occur

and theres too much shanks stalking bb and always talking about him and warning people about him for that not to occur

[lofty fern]

Ah, 2 weeks of no Meek

[ionic palm]

I actually think Shanks and BB might not even clash to begin with tbh.

Rather, Shanks might end up getting in Luffy's way post-Elbaph for various reasons, and Luffy did technically state he intends on taking on every single Emperor that remains, including Shanks himself ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wraith mantle]

Do you think it would be bad writing for Oda to not do shanks vs bb?

[wet condor]

I didn't think I was hallucinating this lol. I remember the great Kid purge of 2023

[thick mango]

maybe. I think thats the most straightforward way to resolve that stuff i talked about but it could maybe be resolved other ways. I think it would be bad writing if its not resolved at all

[lofty fern]

BB vs Shanks doesn't really feel like a thing for me. Let BB fight Garling

[wet condor]

BB needs to kill Shanks

[sage temple]

I've asked the mods about examples of me baiting though I know I don't

[leaden rivet]

It’s more like Socrates the way you talk is very obnoxious

[lofty fern]

It's not happening. You know it and I know it

[leaden rivet]

If you talked like a regular person people probably wouldn’t be annoyed so often

[wet condor]

Well I think you kind of argue in bad faith sometimes lol

[sage temple]

Well maybe I'm not a regular person ilsafea

[sage temple]

What does that mean

[leaden rivet]

And also you make several discussions which had nothing to do with Loki about Loki

[wet condor]

I've been adamant about this for years lol

[vital heart]

Hi harsh did you see Steph came back?

[thick mango]

it should happen but i dunno if thats something oda will do

[alpine trench]

oh wait the chapter is out

shit

[thick mango]

do you disagree thatd be a good plot beat? I mean i guess its a little cliche but i dunno things would start falling into place and accelerating into the end

[sage temple]

I'll think about this

[winter oasis]

ive been AWOL for a while, is it commonly thought that shanks actually did meet with the gorosei at this point?

[alpine trench]

gonna go

[wet condor]

I think you will defend any and all things Loki does without any real consideration of the opposing sides arguments lol

[thick mango]

like putting aside whether or not its likely oda kills shanks do you think the story where bb kills shanks is probably better

[wet condor]

But you're only like that with Loki lol

[ionic palm]

It was basically considered fact until it was revealed that Shanks had a twin.

[winter oasis]

i know, im saying have we gone full circle on it

[sage temple]

I ask about other people's argument a lot of the time when arguing about Loki. Laww is the exact same way if not worse of what you're describing

[leaden rivet]

I don’t think there is an inherent benefit to Blackbeard killing shanks vs defeating him

[winter oasis]

like, it makes sense for it to just be shanks now right?

as a double fake-out

[wet condor]

But as long as shanks dies, it doesn't matter

[vital heart]

Nah. Triple fake out. It's shamrock.

[ionic palm]

I dont really see the point of it.

[leaden rivet]

I suppose killing shanks makes the BB vs Luffy fight more personal

[vital heart]

Shamrock talkin about Shanks

[leaden rivet]

But I do think Blackbeard having a good showing against the untouchable god shanks is necessary for his hype

Because fans don’t really take Blackbeard as serious as the other yonko

[wet condor]

True

[wraith mantle]

The gorosei said something along the lines of “why are you involving yourself in politics”

Which probably fits shamrock as he’s nothing but a soldier

[thick mango]

I dont think law is enough though bb needs one last big win to solidify his seriousness and menace

[thin quest]

I am almost certain it's Shanks in 907

[leaden rivet]

Yeah I agree

I think shanks is like the perfect opponent

[thick mango]

defeating shanks is the most menacing thing any character could do

[winter oasis]

they said "we only agreed to meet because it's YOU"

[leaden rivet]

Killing him may not be necessary

[winter oasis]

and it's like, shamrock could ostensibly meet with them whenever no?

[leaden rivet]

And I doubt it’ll happen

[thick mango]

especially after that kid fight

[winter oasis]

going back to this argument lol

[wraith mantle]

Damn true

[vital heart]

Why did the gorosei agree to let Shanks back in Marijoa after leaving btu not Doflamingo then?

[wraith mantle]

Oda you clever lad

[winter oasis]

because shanks was far more intimately connected to everything

doffy left as a kid

[thin quest]

907 is Shanks telling the Gorosei about BB and his lineage I think

[wraith mantle]

In this flashback or when he met them in 907??

[shadow python]

Because screw Doffy in particular

[thick mango]

the extent to which shanks crushed kid makes his defeat all the more impactful for whoever does it

[shadow python]

I bet even after everything they'd let Bonney back too

They might even let in Uta even though she's not actually a noble

[wraith mantle]

That was not an approval for him to become a CD

He just visited.

Plenty of people are temporarily allowed in the holy land if given permission, as we saw in the reverie

[thin quest]

Shamrock also strikes me as someone who wouldn't really ever have much to say to the Gorosei

Shanks has observation killer ability, even if he wasn't welcome in Pangea Castle he could easily sneak in

and the Gorosei would probably understand that the need to see them was of mutual interest

[wet condor]

I'll say the guy talking to the Gorosei has different hair than Shamrock's

Resembles more of Shanks hair

[vital heart]

Musicfactor

You remind me of mailbox

IYKYK

[wet condor]

I don't understand the comparison tbh lol

Mailbox cracks a lot more jokes

And is funnier lol

[wet condor]

He will have to beat Shanks fairly lol

Or people still won't take him seriously

It'll just reaffirm what a bunch of people think of him if he doesn't

[quiet ice]

Hey meek

[sage temple]

[wet condor]

The BB Loki Kid team-up to kill Shanks

[sage temple]

If Loki pushes Shanks to extreme diff he might only need Colun

Especially if Shanks is supposedly "cowardly" as a result of their fight as pirates

Does this count as ME bringing Loki into an unrelated conversation if MusicFactor was the first to mention him 👀

[trim lily]

poor loki wont know theres people who can see 15s into the future

[shadow python]

All Shanks knows is the one shot.

[sage temple]

poor shanks wont know theres people who dont need sight to see everything happening around him

[proud pivot]

loki has special eyes

[trim lily]

i think he'd be proud if someone learned to see despite their situation

[thick mango]

i dunno tbh i think its gonna go opposite

we get shanks easily beating loki

then an incredible loki fight on elbaf

to further gas shanks

and bb when he gets him

[trim lily]

probably

loki got the obligatory prison boost now too

[thick mango]

i dont think shanks really needs that much more hype for his being defeated to matter a lot but why not throw one last big dose of hype before he gets got

[wraith mantle]

Shanks last mission

[thick mango]

oh showing shanks v kaido where he gets turned back at marineford could be additional hype

though im not sure if that will ever be shown

[wet condor]

Oh rest assured

Shanks will get a dignified glorious death

Oda will make sure

[lofty fern]

Everyone likes Garling, No one likes Homing

[thick mango]

i dont think bb using unfair BS would undermine him that much. thats just how he is

[wet condor]

Yeah lol

[thick mango]

thats hw hes gonna be against luffy

[leaden rivet]

At least Whitebeard level

[wet condor]

I mean, it's BB's MO, but people will never view him in the same light as the other Yonko if he does lol

[leaden rivet]

Death

[sage temple]

I dunno I think it's gonna go Shanks reveals his cowardice against Loki and wins due to it

[wet condor]

Unless gets like another fruit

[leaden rivet]

I wouldn’t like if Blackbeard wins with underhanded methods

I feel like he’s in need of some actual combat hype

[wet condor]

After the Shanks fight I mean and he becomes devastatingly powerful

[leaden rivet]

We already know he can be sneaky and tricky

[wet condor]

he just feels real squishy

and beatable

[leaden rivet]

But we never really get to see how strong he is

But the inevitability is that legends never lose fair in one piece

So shanks isn’t losing a fair fight

[thick mango]

personally i dont think so, that has the opposite purpose of what ive been talking about

[leaden rivet]

Im sure his fleet will be used again

[thick mango]

and for what, hyping loki who has had all this focus and needs no hype

hes about to make hype, he doesnt need to spend hype

[wet condor]

Or Shanks does something gullible and dumb

like trusts Blackbeard lol

[leaden rivet]

I doubt shanks will make any mistakes he’s too perfect for that

If it’s a mistake it’ll be because of someone else

And shanks has to pay for it

[wet condor]

He's a soft guy like Oden, Harald, Whitebeard lol

[sage temple]

All we know about it so far is Loki sees Shanks as a coward because of it

[wraith mantle]

He ain’t harald bro

[wet condor]

[thick mango]

i think we got a bit of a biased narrator in the loser of the fight in question

[sage temple]

This could mean Shanks extreme diffs or mid diffs we don't know

[wraith mantle]

Shanks knows how to play politics

He spent time in the holy land

[wet condor]

Well, he left before his acolade so

lul

[sage temple]

Since we've seen Loki's character so far, I doubt he'd just call someone a coward just because they beat him

There's reason to believe there were underhanded methods taking place

[wet condor]

Shanks does come off as a lil' bit smarter than Harald and Oden

[leaden rivet]

Shanks being a “coward” is definitely some type of misunderstanding

[wet condor]

But he does seem vulnerable to leaving himself open for the sake of others. Like Oden did lol

[sage temple]

Not definitely, I can see Shanks doing an underhanded trick against Loki

[wet condor]

well, shanks may not play fair. But he isn't going to do something like what blackbeard did.

[frigid gulch]

He calls Shanks a coward because he didn’t finish him off

[wet condor]

He probably thinks Shanks is soft yeah lol

[sage temple]

Or he calls Shanks a coward because Shanks needed lots of help to beat him

[wet condor]

Y'all should bet

[frigid gulch]

I know you want that to happen yea

And personally I don’t wanna see more Shanks gas but

[leaden rivet]

Shanks isn’t going to do anything that actually puts him in a bad light

[frigid gulch]

It’s already too far gone

[sage temple]

You want him to join you in your casket?

[wet condor]

I'm gonna laugh if I actually wind up winning this one

[sage temple]

Also abt our bet we didn't actually set up a mute time

[proud pivot]

!rmd 30d laugh at Shanks vs Loki 1v1 truthers but if it is true call it bad writing and say oda is washed

[wet condor]

But it's honestly not outrageous

[sage temple]

How long is the mute if Loki gets 1 shot

[wet condor]

I thought you said a month or something

[sage temple]

Oh

Imma check

[frigid gulch]

It’s like when Law cut Tashigi up but never finished her off

It’s disrespectful

[thick mango]

I dunno I dont think id agree we have a clear enough picture to conclude that. All we really know is he looked up to rocks and loved is adoptive mom. And dislikes the cds

[shadow python]

Shanks is a coward in that he won then lost his arm before Loki could get his runback

[sage temple]

Lmao

[frigid gulch]

Shanks fought him six years ago..

[sage temple]

You agree to these terms right

[prisma idol]

What is this bet for

[sage temple]

Loki getting 1 shot

[wet condor]

Some people can see it as a sign of disrespect, yeah. If he feels like Shanks spared him out of pity

[prisma idol]

I dont see a one shot

[wet condor]

Of course lol

[frigid gulch]

I’m sure Loki’s got a ton of pride

[prisma idol]

But I do think he gets folded

[wet condor]

You wanted me to reply to confirm, and I said yeah

[frigid gulch]

[wet condor]

I don't actually see him getting 1 shot either

[shadow python]

All Shanks knows is the one shot

[sage temple]

Alrighty

[wet condor]

But if he does

[frigid gulch]

I hope not man

But who knows atp

[sage temple]

It could also be like a losing side asking his crew for backup even though he agreed to a 1v1

That could definitely be seen as cowardice

[frigid gulch]

Shanks on the losing side ?

You dragging it

[wet condor]

You should bet lol

[sage temple]

Loki getting 1 shot?

You dragging it

[frigid gulch]

Stfu

[leaden rivet]

Loki probably isn’t getting one shot

[sage temple]

[frigid gulch]

Where did I say that

My messages the entire time have me praying it isn’t

[leaden rivet]

It would be a bit silly to have him get one shot

But then again I said that about kid

[wet condor]

Kidd happened in a way I didn't expect

I expected him to get knocked into the ocean

If he was going to get One shot

[shadow python]

It's like a Zoro fight. Once a swordsman gets one good hit in its generally over

[sage temple]

Oh

[shadow python]

Unless you're Lucci apparently

[wet condor]

But I never took it off the table

[leaden rivet]

If the fight is shown I doubt it’ll be a full fight

[sage temple]

The repetition gimmick fails this time

[wet condor]

You should bet on Shanks leaving spotless though

[shadow python]

Loki isn't going to narrate himself getting one shot

[frigid gulch]

It’s true, but.. Shanks might not cut

With his sword attacks

[sage temple]

Shanks also might not be able to win by himself

[frigid gulch]

So it’s more like a punch if anything

It would mean Shanks’ haki is that potent

[wraith mantle]

This is shanks we talking about
His wifi haki brought an admiral to his knees

Yall don’t get it

[sage temple]

What if Loki vs Shanks is like Katakuri vs Luffy

[urban sluice]

one day you'll wake up to 80 pings in #spoilers . you wont open them but you will know what they're about. as you close your eyes preparing whats to come

[leaden rivet]

Shanks uses his sword like an explosive bat same way rocks does

[frigid gulch]

Granted if he simply sliced someone close up then yea

Zoro does that too

[sage temple]

Don't manifest this

[shadow python]

If Luffy gets a good punch in the enemy says ow that hurt and keeps fighting. When Shanks gets a good hit in...well ask Kidd

[leaden rivet]

You’re dickriding too hard

[sage temple]

I'm giving a plausible reason as to why Loki sees Shanks as a coward

Since this is all we know of the fight currently

[leaden rivet]

No

[frigid gulch]

Rocks, Roger, Shanks, Rayleigh ?

[shadow python]

Remember the invincible barrier that Kozuki Oden couldn't do anything about? Bart had the same barrier but could do nothing but beg Shanks for forgiveness

[frigid gulch]

It seems like a style of the sword to me

Really, Shanks copied it from Roger

[leaden rivet]

Yeah king

[shadow python]

Beckman has also used his gun like a bat

[sage temple]

This is Loki we talking about
Loki has a legendary Devil Fruit
CoC honed enough to kill a Holy Knight
His MERE PRESENCE gave Luffy goosebumps

Yall don't get it

[wet condor]

Man I ain't even thought about this

[leaden rivet]

That’s the true haki man fighting style

[wet condor]

Which HK did he kill?

[sage temple]

The left hand of the Roger pirates fears Loki's release

[sage temple]

Harald?

[leaden rivet]

People were talking about it constantly the day the chapter came out lol

[wet condor]

Oh

[frigid gulch]

Shanks copying it while the rest of the Roger Pirates couldn’t was just another layer to the glaze

[leaden rivet]

Yeah it was just glaze just to glaze

[sage temple]

[leaden rivet]

I was actually rather surprised that shamrock was similar strength wise to shanks but I’m sure it’ll be revealed shanks was holding back intentionally

[frigid gulch]

Oh look at me I’m so cool, smart and strong

[sage temple]

Loki uses his sword like a giant hammer same way Rocks does

[frigid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/smh-shake-head-no-disagree-gif-17744233

[sage temple]

See the center of my Loki Rocks parallel sheet for reference

[frigid gulch]

Even that

Garling says “I believe”

Just makes me think Shanks >

Because Garling doesn’t know shit

[shadow python]

The Shanks that lost to pre fruit BB was even with immortal Shamrock?

[leaden rivet]

Harald kinda does too. There’s like distinct levels of sword users. Theres Mihawk/zoro/Oden and then there’s Shanks/Rayleigh/Roger

[wet condor]

Being a cripple and still stuntin on everyone

[leaden rivet]

But in the end swinging your sword like a hobo with a bat the way shanks does is considered sword skill

[frigid gulch]

Harald ?

[sage temple]

The narrator himself said Rock's attacks are like a giant hammer

Imma see if I can zoom in

[frigid gulch]

Idk he doesn’t seem like that type

[shadow python]

Might be why Lokis weapon of choice was a hammer

[frigid gulch]

There’s no distinction in OP among these things

[leaden rivet]

It’s mostly people who use rapiers and cutlasses

[frigid gulch]

I’d say

[sage temple]

This is possible

[wet condor]

Harald doesn't come off as one of those "way of the blade" type swordsmen

[sage temple]

Harald just be cutting shit

[wet condor]

Yeah lol

[sage temple]

He holds it like an axe lmao

[frigid gulch]

Brook’s flying thrusts are like gun fire

[leaden rivet]

Zoro doesn’t actually fight much way of the blade swordsmen either

[frigid gulch]

In the same way Rocks’ attacks are like cannon balls

[sage temple]

Interesting take

[wet condor]

How so?

[sage temple]

Wanna elaborate

[wet condor]

Zoro definitely comes off as one of those guys who was reading "The Five Rings"

[frigid gulch]

Zoro is fairly unga bunga too

[leaden rivet]

Im talking about opponents

Im not talking about Zoro himself

[wet condor]

Oh okay nvm I misread what you said

[leaden rivet]

Im saying he doesn’t fight many swordsman who are like way of the blade

[sage temple]

Ohh me too

[wet condor]

Me and Socrates misread it

[sage temple]

🤦‍♂️

[shadow python]

Mihawk uses his swords as like an art form. When he was shot he used his blade to alter the path of the bullets.

When Zoro gets shot at he usually slices the bullet in half

[frigid gulch]

That’s because way of the sword shit hardly matters

[dapper tree]

Zoro just swings his sword hard

[leaden rivet]

Tbf he did that like once and then in Marineford half the time he swung his sword like a bat same way the rest do

[frigid gulch]

I think Zoro has his own takes on what makes a swordsman. It’s not an objective truth

Like some try to say it is

[dapper tree]

Like everyone here arguing on who is a swordsman or what makes a swordsman

[leaden rivet]

Yep

[frigid gulch]

Yep

[leaden rivet]

I think Zoro is kinda elitist

[frigid gulch]

Philosophy differences exist in OP

[sage temple]

Rocks' swordsmanship isn't much of a bat-type fighter though idk

[wet condor]

He had something cool going on

[frigid gulch]

Buggy has his own take on what a “true” pirate is

[wet condor]

And we barely got to see him use it while he was fighting

He literally only used it against one opponent and that was Harald

And did it once

[shadow python]

Wonder who the admiral Rocks killed was

[leaden rivet]

Everyone who uses this weapon is just going to fight the same way

[dapper tree]

Rocks was a swordsman cause he had his own style

[shadow python]

Maybe it was Akainus mom

[leaden rivet]

That admiral was just pure hype. Didn’t have a name, didn’t have a face. Just hype.

[sage temple]

Good take ngl

[wet condor]

Hype and aura

[golden valley]

Rocks swordsman convo’s remind me that hes a lame swordsman haki-dude

[dapper tree]

Stabbed in the back and off screened. You can tell where BB gets it from

[wet condor]

Rocks is a cooler fighter than Roger lol

He just needed to use his gimmick more

[dapper tree]

Eh

[leaden rivet]

Is there a difference?

[shadow python]

At least Rocks went out dying at the hands of a true swordsman Garling

[golden valley]

So far hes like a bit better

[sage temple]

Yeah but back to comparing fighters to Rocks, I think the only one who I see with a similar swing and attack as Rocks is Loki

[dapper tree]

Both swing their sword hard

[golden valley]

Thats particularly because we haven’t seen all of Roger’s kit

[frigid gulch]

You know the funny part is, Mihawk says as part of the “swordsman code” he’ll use his actual sword to sink Zoro. Does that mean prior to that that he was violating the code?

[dapper tree]

[sage temple]

[wet condor]

[shadow python]

Mihawk rightfully didn't think east blue Zoro was worth the effort

[frigid gulch]

Right but he’s still a swordsman

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-mad-angry-ishowspeed-sheisty-gif-13492318246358992086

[shadow python]

But upon seeing his spirit decided to honor him with death to the worlds greatest

[frigid gulch]

Isn’t Mihawk supposed to be some sword saint

Strict way of the sword guy

[shadow python]

To mihawk he wasn't a swordsman but a boy who didn't know his limits

[frigid gulch]

Why is he blatantly violating the code

[golden valley]

Yes and no

[leaden rivet]

He’s literally holding his weapon like a batter in the image you’re posting lol

[shadow python]

It's unlikely he intended to kill Zoro with his dagger

[golden valley]

Mihawk doesn’t show respect to the weak

At least most of the time

So fodder are exceptions I suppose?

[sage temple]

I base my observations strictly off of what the narrator says

[dapper tree]

Mihawk isn't a swordsman confirmed

[frigid gulch]

They can’t be

[sage temple]

[leaden rivet]

Like straight up as a bat

[shadow python]

He likely didn't want zoros blood on his freshly painted blade

[dapper tree]

Swordbats-men

[frigid gulch]

Pretty sure Mihawk has done that pose too

[leaden rivet]

Mihawk’s swordsmanship is nearly as brainless Dw

[vital heart]

Rocks is a Shohei Ohtani-insert.

[frigid gulch]

I think Oda likes the pose

[dapper tree]

Easy pose

[frigid gulch]

He drew Gaban striking it too

[shadow python]

You think Mihawks sword was made for a giant?

[golden valley]

Mihawk’s swordsmanship was subtle off introduction

[leaden rivet]

Hilt is wayyyy too small

[leaden rivet]

I think that’s just the haki man pose

[shadow python]

It seems too small for an actual giant but Zoros enma should also be way too big for him

[sage temple]

Hmm true they both do now that I think about it

[shadow python]

Maybe Emma shrunk because it could siphon off haki from Oden for 20 years

[golden valley]

https://scans-hot.planeptune.us/manga/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics/0050-015.png

[shadow python]

Worlds skillest swordsman

[leaden rivet]

Also Mihawk

[frigid gulch]

Now it’s mostly about haki

[shadow python]

He cut the glacier in such a way that it would trample any who avoided his attack

[sage temple]

He doesn't swing his body though

[shadow python]

Poetry in motion

[keen quiver]

Its mostly arm work with mihawk

[leaden rivet]

Im referring to him saying it’s subtlety

[golden valley]

Eh

[leaden rivet]

And then swinging so Harald he blades through an iceberg

[golden valley]

Mihawk has a very noticeable sword style

From different swordsman

[shadow python]

Mihawk probably did so on purpose

[golden valley]

Its lkke he follows his blade

[leaden rivet]

What’re you talking about

My reply had nothing to do with how he swings his sword lol

[keen quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-mihawk-one-piece-fan-letter-dracule-dracule-mihawk-gif-1905190668885901423

[shadow python]

He didn't really want to kill Whitebeard, Whitebeards cool people. He sliced the glacier to attack the marines while pretending to fight Luffy

[olive sigil]

Wow look at the bottom right panel

[frigid gulch]

He rode his sword like a pogo stick

[olive sigil]

That’s polo

[shadow python]

For all the shade we give Mihawk, if he wanted Luffy dead, Luffy would be dead

[frigid gulch]

I mean that’s pretty goofy

[sage temple]

I thought you said "Mihawk too" to me saying Loki swings his shi like a baseballer like Rocks does

[olive sigil]

Who knew he’d be at marineford

[golden valley]

Vista🔥

[keen quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/mihawk-one-piece-mihawk-one-piece-fan-letter-mihawk-fan-letter-fan-letter-mihawk-gif-5730632925878386636

[olive sigil]

The other guy

[keen quiver]

Animation was doing its thing

[thin fiber]

Not looking forward to next chapter

[frigid gulch]

Plus Rocks did that pose one time

It’s just over analyzing it

There are many characters who have struck it

It’s whatever

[sage temple]

Yeah this is why I judge off of what the narrator actually says about it

"giant hammer"

[olive sigil]

Usopp mentioned

[sage temple]

Sure but Loki and Rocks are the only ones with devastating attacks that use this attack style

Which is why I kind of isolate them

[keen quiver]

Shanks when he's fighting teach and gets hit with the flashback mid fight

[frigid gulch]

When Ryuma projected a thrust, Franky thought he fired off a gun. Same thing with Rocks here except it’s much more renowned

And described differently ofc

[sage temple]

Yeah it's just more accurate since the actual narrator themselves is talking about it

[olive sigil]

Usopp’s attacks are also devastating. If you really go into details Usopp and Loki share a lot of similarities

[frigid gulch]

Well the narrator is quoting what the public said but ye, doesn’t change the details

[sage temple]

So unless Stansen or Ussop start using their hammers it looks like Loki and Rocks are the only relevant ones

[thin fiber]

I want receipts

[sage temple]

The only part it seems to be quoting is that it blows everything in the vicinity away

[shadow python]

I feel like we're joking but there are numerous similarities between Usopp and the god of deceit

[hazy echo]

https://x.com/ghostieleeghost/status/1996549299464008150

ghostielee 🐊💜 (@ghostieleeghost)

i will not take this thing seriously ever

X · Dec 4, 2025, 11:57 AM

[thin fiber]

Is this something you cooked up or something you picked up? Bc I'm intrigued

[olive sigil]

The hr lady at my job when I ask for my stuff to be paid

[sage temple]

The giant hammer seems more like the narrators' view of consistency between Rock's attacks and a giant hammer's

[shadow python]

Usopp will be the one to beat Loki

[frigid gulch]

I mean I think it’s connected

[thin fiber]

No one is beating Loki bro

[sage temple]

I cooked this up, I've been ssing the thing in the middle but this is part of my bigger theory. I don't think it's only mine though since it seems to be slightly popular

[shadow python]

Besides Shanks, Gunko, and Shamrocks dog

[frigid gulch]

Depends on how you translate it too ig

[olive sigil]

I’m dead serious. I think they’re alike

[frigid gulch]

Loki really cosplaying Rocks brah

[sage temple]

Shoot I need officials

[thin fiber]

Dang i been absent from the op community so I'll give you credit

[olive sigil]

Stansen is just some dude. Usopp has done some impressive stuff with his hammer like alabasta

[sage temple]

My bad King I wasn't using officials in that image I was bugging

[shadow python]

Do you think onis are the dwarfs of giant community?

[frigid gulch]

It’s fine

Not a big difference

[thin fiber]

I LOVE THIS

[sage temple]

Yeah just not impressive as either Loki or Rocks which is why I'm ignoring them for now. Ussop's dream is much more prevalent on marksmanning as well so that isn't even his main weapon which is why I don't see it as important, especially in his context

[olive sigil]

Don’t worry about it king

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/key-and-peele-obama-handshake-gif-14751410

[olive sigil]

Stop putting Stansen on the same category as Usopp Loki and rocks. You could even put Usopp in the middle between both but not on the same level as Stansen

[sage temple]

Yeah but I just think it's important that Rock's attacks are have the power of almost exactly the weapon Loki uses

[sage temple]

Woah brudder I'm not putting Stansen in the same category they're just the only ones I can remember that use hammers as a weapon other than Loki and Rocks

[olive sigil]

But the way the hammer is used is only Loki Usopp and rocks

The explosiveness of the hammer

[sage temple]

Loki and Rocks are a lot more powerful with the use of the hammer than Ussop is

Specifically the explosiveness of the hammer

[thin fiber]

@ripe plinth

Had to show my husband

[olive sigil]

Yeah I know rocks is a good bit above Loki and Loki above Usopp. But still they use the hammer a similar way

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/think-bro-gif-22403438

[olive sigil]

Rocks doesn’t even use a hammer

He uses his sword as a hammer

[keen quiver]

We are one piece moment

These mfs glazing teach after showing no interest for years

Is crazy work

[vital heart]

D = Yin Yang ?

Din & Dang

[sage temple]

Yeah I know, but Rock's attacks are AKIN to a gigantic hammer, and Loki has similar destructive power as Rocks whereas Ussop's hammer is about 2kg and kind of weak if put against a strong-minded individual

[vital heart]

@sage temple You play Minecraft?

[thick mango]

man i had a crazy amount of discord messages in that recap thing

[shadow python]

Teach beat Law. He was the guy who helped Kidd kill Big mom

[keen quiver]

You already know

[sage temple]

Yeah

[olive sigil]

So it goes:

Strong hammer users: Loki and Usopp
Mid hammer users: Stansen and Blamenco
Weak hammer users: that carpenter from the sbs
Non hammer users: rocks

[sage temple]

Are you baiting

[dense rapids]

Shanks was going to tell Harald about Imu and to not take the next mark level

[thin fiber]

His sword was like a hammer!

[keen quiver]

Maybe he should have fucking told gaban

To tell his ass

[dense rapids]

😂😂😂😂

[olive sigil]

But still it’s not a hammer

[thin fiber]

Dawg

[dense rapids]

Bro saved himself 😂

[keen quiver]

"I won't say shit to harald fuck that mf"

[shadow python]

Shanks had an important message to give to Harald...but nah it can wait till after the bath

[thin fiber]

The will of a hammer

[dense rapids]

“Before it’s too late”

Sorry shanks it’s too late already

[olive sigil]

Luffy’s punch is like a gun, doesn’t make him a sniper

[thin fiber]

I mean... finger pistol by cp0 kinda is though

[shadow python]

Luffy throws punches. Sounds like an archer to me

[olive sigil]

Sounds like a pitcher

Luffy is a baseball player

[sage temple]

Something about Roger crewmates and not telling anyone anything important

[thin fiber]

Came full circle after MLB season with One Piece

[keen quiver]

This happens constantly to the point of ruin

[thin fiber]

They couldn't tell people

[sage temple]

Comparing Luffy's one gun-like move to Rock's attacks being akin to a hammer literally every strike we see from the guy

[thin fiber]

They knew they came too early

[steel stirrup]

Harald was a lost cause

Shanks' warning would've fell on deaf ears

On the bright side, he's dead now.

[thin fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/grinch-cartoon-two-sizes-size-gif-24193741

[steel stirrup]

Idc

"Its an honor!"

[muted hedge]

rest in peace Ida

[steel stirrup]

Bro fuck you

[shadow python]

Didn't we only see one strike from Rocks?

[steel stirrup]

Pandemonium

[olive sigil]

I hate this feeling

[steel stirrup]

Everything else was off panel like his son

Just Pandemonium

[thin fiber]

Literally the only thing that sucks about One Piece is Oda introduces us to a dead character, then we learn about them, and then we have to watch them die bc we know how their story ends 🥲

[ocean sigil]

Oda sick?

[steel stirrup]

Its a mother in One Piece

We knew she was cooked

[vital heart]

@celest mauve Genuinely, why does Oda kill mothers so often? Is he misogynistic?

[vital heart]

They look like admirals without justice

[ocean sigil]

There are some parts of this chapter looking unfinished

Or unpolished

[steel stirrup]

The old Meek done came back

[vital heart]

??

[olive sigil]

Oda gets sick when he has to kill a mom in a chapter

[ocean sigil]

You mean like the normal admirals too???

[ocean sigil]

OMG TRUEEE

[thin fiber]

If there were good mothers, there would be no pirates

[willow pollen]

I’ve known this for a long time

[olive sigil]

VAIN

[steel stirrup]

Old pfp and old name

[olive sigil]

VAIN

VAIN

WOOOOO

[willow pollen]

Hello sanjuan

[shadow python]

Didn't Ginny die the moment after she gave birth and became a mother?

[olive sigil]

How are you

[muted hedge]

it's really coming back to bite him

[willow pollen]

Good how about you

[steel stirrup]

Not the exact next minute but might as well

[dapper tree]

SB's hero for a reason

[steel stirrup]

You big dummy

[olive sigil]

Been rough but hanging on. Pushing that carrot agenda

[steel stirrup]

LMAOOO

[ocean sigil]

I was like Loki when I read this page

[willow pollen]

I appreciate it

[dapper tree]

Meek moment amiright

[shadow python]

If Carrot joined the strawhats what would she have done in Egghead?

[dapper tree]

Lots of things

[thin fiber]

Hopefully been eaten

[shadow python]

I think the mink electro would have been used to do something with all of the egghead tech like maybe supercharge them to allow for explosive results

[ocean sigil]

She would be the one to save all the vegapunks

[dapper tree]

Carrot would have been able to go sulong

And clash with Nusjuro before zoro

[willow pollen]

My idea was the holograms at the start of the arc would be used to make a full moon and trigger sulong but that was before Bepo used the drugs to go sulong

[steel stirrup]

A perc or two from Chopper most definitely

[ocean sigil]

She would save stellar from the shot of Kizaru

[olive sigil]

She’d have fit perfectly in that initial part of the arc with Luffy Bonney and chopper. Plus she wouldn’t have needed an elevator to go up and down because she can jump. She could defuse the electric fence with her electro power

[shadow python]

Considering Bepo got the drugs from Chopper its definitely reasonable that Chopper could do so himself

[steel stirrup]

Carrot would've solo'ed the Gorosei

[vital heart]

What?

[thin fiber]

How did i get into Carrot Piece 😒

[ocean sigil]

Admirals justice is a lie

[dapper tree]

It's a good time line

[olive sigil]

Carrot piece has been here all along

[thin fiber]

Stop it

[dapper tree]

Carrot was robbed

[steel stirrup]

You never left

[vital heart]

No, like you know how VAs and Admirals have the word "justice" in japanese on the back of their coats? Thats what the gorosei reminded me of. Just without the word "justice".

[thin fiber]

Carrot is fodder

[dapper tree]

So are like 3 of the SHs

[shadow python]

After the events of egghead Carrot would likely have earned herself a bounty (really all of the strawhats probably should have but this is a Carrot focused piece) what would it be?

[ocean sigil]

Oh you mean the script on the back? Then yes I gotchu

[olive sigil]

I wonder what oda’s parents think when they see the way he portrays parents in one piece. Birth pirates either die, become evil or leave

[dapper tree]

Above the 3 weaklings but below the 3 mid trio

[shadow python]

Base Carrot outperforms about half of the strawhats Sulong Carrot was clowning on Katas twin brother

[worn geode]

What are the chances that dragon was afraid of the HK cus of Harald's powers and he assumed everyone else would be on the same power level.

[dapper tree]

Daifuku ain't that impressive

[steel stirrup]

Agenda aside, yea she was kinda flexing on them dudes.

[dapper tree]

He just has good damage output

[olive sigil]

Regardless of power, she was just a really good complement to chopper

[ocean sigil]

How did Saul become a navy captain when Giants actually joint around 16 17 years ago?

Or do I remember the timeline wrong

Too many dates lately I cant keep up

[dapper tree]

Monster chopper and sulong carrot would be a good combo

[olive sigil]

Elbaf giants

He’s not from Elbaf

[ocean sigil]

Giants in general were feared and avoided, no?

[dapper tree]

Giants get an auto promotion

[celest mauve]

https://reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/1pek1wr/oda_whenever_he_has_to_write_a_backstory_for_some/

[steel stirrup]

Bro did all that for a few opinion changes

[celest mauve]

[shadow python]

Mother Carmel sent some giants over well before this

[olive sigil]

Yeah but he had been a marine for a long time

[ocean sigil]

Hmmmm

[ocean sigil]

Thats true I guess

[shadow python]

I didn't think Saul was one of them especially since he isn't elbafian but I guess it's dine

[steel stirrup]

"Just give them a mother

And then kill her"

[olive sigil]

They’d be unstoppable

[celest mauve]

I just realized something, oda is known to like pokemon right?
moms in pokemon let their kids go on adventures indefinitely

[shadow python]

Monster Chopper hasn't been very impressive

[celest mauve]

so why does this mf oda think they're anti-adventure

[shadow python]

He beat...that one Fishman guy and that's about it

[ocean sigil]

But both of them with their mind on destruction mode

[olive sigil]

It stood up to queen

[shadow python]

What was impressive with Queen was Chopper making an antidote and administering it to everyone in the floor within moments of encountering it for the first time

[steel stirrup]

You have a point.

Ash's mom let her 10 year old son go out to capture every Pokémon ever with no issues

[shadow python]

The fight battling? Not so much

[dapper tree]

Chopper picked up and threw queen

[tranquil blade]

Chopper gave Queen a pretty good slap

[celest mauve]

oda really could take a look at moms in pokemon and stop killing off the ones in OP flashbacks all the time

[steel stirrup]

Chopper did better than I expected him to do

[frigid gulch]

Would Magellan tank it

[shadow python]

That's because you knew how trash monster point Chopper was and didn't expect much

[steel stirrup]

[tranquil blade]

Yeah he'd survive and low diff everyone in the castle

[steel stirrup]

Still

When I expect nothing, anything is pleasant surprise.

[dapper tree]

No

[tranquil blade]

Queen would for sure job to Magellan he'd just let himself get hit with poison and lose immediately

[shadow python]

Magellan challenged 3 of the four would be yonkou at impel down and beat two of them

[muted hedge]

so next chapter is the revelation of Loki vs Harald

[shadow python]

Queen should have Reiju data and be immune to most poisons. At least at the same level as Luffys immunity

Actually no, Reijus immunity was way higher than Luffys given the kiss

[ancient marsh]

i think most of us have the same guess on how/why Harald dies by now right?

[shadow python]

Queen chose to use only the brothers powers because Sanji has no defense against Reijus poison

I think we did before this chapter. But now Harald is immortal

[tranquil blade]

Idk how Harald is gonna get killed if he's immortal

[shadow python]

What if...Harald isn't actually dead?

[muted hedge]

i feel like Shanks or someone has to have stepped in at this point

i mean sure Loki will be powerful as all living hell, but Harald was rivaling Xebec before his contract

[shadow python]

Yeah Harald was the strongest in the world with the death of Rocks and Roger. And now he's stronger than ever and immortal

[tranquil blade]

Either Loki's supposed fruit has some way to counter immortality or Harald got jumped

[muted hedge]

Shanks would probably know exactly what to do too, given he was with the God Knights for a longer time

[shadow python]

It doesn't matter if he gets jumped. Ace jumped Whitebeard while he was sleeping and it still did nothing

[muted hedge]

he got the fruit afterwards if i remember correctly

[tranquil blade]

Well he couldve ate it during the incident

Hypothetically

[muted hedge]

maybe

[golden valley]

Shanks and Gaban jumping in would make things much easier to reason with, but idk. Best to wait and see

[shadow python]

Shanks is busy bathing

[muted hedge]

Shanks was already tempted to go meet Harald, i wouldn't be surprised if he did so

though he'd have to hurry up

[shadow python]

Gabans wife wants him to take it slow

Also, I don't think we talk enough about how odd it is that Ripley was watching her husband's friend bathe

[muted hedge]

i feel like Oda placing Shanks so close to the incident must be for a reason

[shadow python]

It's so he can beat Loki after Loki heroically saves the day

[muted hedge]

here's Killinghams

looks like the depth covenant

[shadow python]

Drake was a knight pretending to be a marine pretending to be a pirate pretending to be a former marine

[muted hedge]

i wonder what Shanks last mission was

the one which he didn't complete

[shadow python]

Who knows. But one of the missions he did complete was probably kidnapping Ginny

Ginny seemed too capable to get caught by a random Mook but if it was Shanks it checks out

[muted hedge]

i don't see Oda doing that

[shadow python]

Whatever Shanks did was enough to get him almost qualified to be immortal within 1 year with just one mission to go

He probably did less than savory things. But for the respect of the character perhaps they will never be known

[muted hedge]

i think Sommers is the most likely suspect to have kidnapped Ginney

[ruby moat]

“Probably” ???

[olive sigil]

Harald wasn’t a celestial dragon and all it took was for him to beat pirates for a year. Sure Imu had further motive with Elbaf but for shanks he was pure blooded he wouldn’t need much more

[tranquil blade]

Well it was like a decade of waiting for Harald

[olive sigil]

But how long since becoming a blade?

[frosty belfry]

I think it’s so interesting how Oda has shown Pangea castle is obviously so monstrous in size in comparison to those who currently reside there. Harald literally dwarfs them, and then Imu literally looks like a speck in this second image in comparison to the castle itself whenever they go to see the giant straw hat

[tranquil blade]

He seemingly becomes a blade just after Roger dies, part of why you can tell is because Shamrock looks significantly younger here than he does later in the chapter

[muted hedge]

if the mural is anything to go off of, then Imu has a monsterous stature as well

[dense rapids]

I wonder if this supposed to be

• horns

• omega sign

• horse shoe

Any other ideas?

[frosty belfry]

this is very true but i think this does beg the question, at least to me, about if the castle itself existed long before the celestial dragons got there and what exactly that in and of itself could imply

I just don’t think it’s a coincidence

[muted hedge]

yeah it's interesting

[frosty belfry]

maybe the castle was built by giants or used by giants long ago

[dense rapids]

I think it was for sure built by giants

The throne isn’t for giant size tho

I think it’s Davy Jones’

The book
Large gun
Large throne

Etc

Imu might’ve just stolen this stuff from Jones

[muted hedge]

i think Imu is more less literally the devil

[olive sigil]

Oh I thought it was much shorter time. But still I expect shanks blood would have made him go up faster

[tranquil blade]

It did yeah, despite only being there for a year or two Shanks was gonna get promoted before Harald

[frigid gulch]

So Shanks was stronger ?

[iron fulcrum]

Nah just more lucky cuz he was born as garlings kid which gives him a boost

[dense rapids]

He was just next in line

[iron fulcrum]

Yeah

[golden valley]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[dense rapids]

What if all of this is just the Greek alphabet

Alpha - first of Greek alphabet

Mu - middle of Greek alphabet

Omega - last of Greek alphabet

[frosty mantle]

It is pretty explicit that it's meant to be A ト (to) Mu = atom

[dense rapids]

I think we see colon in another shot as well unless it’s a different kid

[rare tangle]

It's moustache

[dense rapids]

Warcury agenda

[tranquil blade]

Warcury is tuff tho

[sly belfry]

makes you really think

[rare tangle]

Warcury was the one who tattooed Harald, that's why the tattoo is his mustache

[thick mango]

I hope warcury is in charge of the pacts I want him to be important

[tranquil blade]

Warcury said he still gets chills about it

[blazing depot]

I get those goosebumps every time

https://tenor.com/view/travis-scott-mind-blown-on-fire-angry-gif-12346746

[rare tangle]

previous chapter

[muted marsh]

So Warcury is just Gorbachev with a mustache right

[rare tangle]

yes

Much stronger than Gorbachev

[solemn reef]

Mihawk loves picking on the weak

https://tenor.com/view/mihawk-one-piece-fencing-anime-toothpick-gif-20272135

[blazing depot]

EOS Warcury

https://youtu.be/fgm14D1jHUw?si=TFW3Nd6_XE--yXw9

[muted hedge]

https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Lark

[thick mango]

Is this a new movie?

Where's the movie at it feels like it's about time

[muted hedge]

sadly it's not

it's from One Piece Art: Nue

[blazing depot]

Garling’s secret third son

[muted marsh]

I fkn knew it

[thick mango]

This was making me wonder if shanks will have a last minute second brother like sabo

[muted marsh]

Eh I dont think so

[muted hedge]

Shanks and Shamrocks sibling from Wano

[muted marsh]

The narrative demand isnt there like it was for Sabo

[muted hedge]

when Garling was there on a mission from Nusjuro

[blazing depot]

How many wedlock babies does Garling have 😭

[muted hedge]

4

we forgot his daughter

[vital heart]

Gaban is in Ripley's hand too lol

[muted marsh]

He probably loaded one in that Linlin bakery too I wouldnt be surprised

[dense pike]

imagine a guy with a speech impediment warning people about Shanks coming 😭
"EVEWYBODY WUN! WED-HAIR IS COMING!! "
"Yo why this guy freaking out over Wet-hair Caribou? "

[muted hedge]

that would be hilarious

https://x.com/BoruDBrian/status/1996761441798705278/photo/1

BoruDBrian / Commissions open (@BoruDBrian)

i love loki so much. i love Elbaph

#onepiece

X · Dec 5, 2025, 2:00 AM

[muted marsh]

I mean underestimate wet-hair Caribou at your own peril ig.

[dense pike]

thats fair
most mid tiers could not handle him

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/lulovekid/status/1996727573506826255

Jiang (@lulovekid)

🐱

X · Dec 4, 2025, 11:45 PM

[dense pike]

who do you think is the weakest person that could take out Caribou (ignoring one-shotters like Sugar, Bonney, Perona, etc, I mean like actually knock him out in a fight)?

and ig without any barrels or anything like that to lock him in too 😭

[muted marsh]

Helmeppo

I think thats a mid diff

[muted hedge]

what about Jango

[muted marsh]

Nah Caribou clears