also-manga

[wraith mantle]

I remember people making theories that Zoro was not under the absinthe spell because of the way he looked at Luffy in the top right panel

Good times

[willow pollen]

I think getting something wrong is much worse than not providing the info

[brittle basin]

on this absinthe page you can see Luffy has a sword and then an axe in the same page. Goda.

[ashen perch]

Oda gets the left rights wrong all the time so I wouldnt necessarily consider this one big but there was the Sommers thing too

[willow pollen]

This had to be on purpose

Like there’s no way it’s on the same page

[wraith mantle]

What Sommers thing

[ashen perch]

Gaban cuts his right arm, and it turns into his left in like the very next panel

[willow pollen]

Yes it’s very common

[brittle basin]

I forgot where, but I think it was corrected

[wraith mantle]

And it goes back to right the next panel lol

[willow pollen]

Lmao

[barren token]

Worst elbaf mistake so far has to be oda accidentally having Robin show emotions and even speak out loud. Huge plot hole there

[rich hornet]

Weekly release is the beta version. Always been that way

[ashen perch]

it was corrected yea

[runic dock]

Oda is gonna announce he’s taking a 5 years togashi break soon to fix all his mistakes

How’s that?

[brittle basin]

or rather that they were never affected by the absinthe cause the lego land and everything was real and no one ever brought up any of the "mistakes" in that chapter

[wraith mantle]

Togashi and Oda take turns?

[stone terrace]

Fucking absinthe man lmao

[brittle basin]

worst mistake was Robin's bangs

[stone terrace]

Imagine how different it wouldve been weekly if that was never brought up

[pseudo gulch]

Did they fix this in the volume release?

[ashen perch]

I still dont know what the purpose of absinthe really is

[brittle basin]

i can't remember where I heard them fixing them. i'm getting old like Oda.

[ashen perch]

it was fixed yea

[runic dock]

Would be peak ngl

[rich hornet]

To show the giants roll hard

[pseudo gulch]

Do you also write a manga series?

[ashen perch]

they fix like 99% of the mistakes with the volume version

[urban lodge]

Just to get them kidnapped by Road I guess

[ashen perch]

well fair

[barren token]

Kidnapped by road and also leave some mystery about what actually happened

[runic dock]

No need for a purpose , just filling in world culture lore , because Sweden

[olive sigil]

Can we go to #1021583579840520264 to continue the conversation I have various pictures

[wraith mantle]

Maybe they will fix the Shakky Rayleigh plot in the volume release

[scenic dirge]

Is the anime almost done with egghead btw?

[barren token]

All the little mistakes just made it go further then it was supposed to

[ashen perch]

just funny to have that be in the same chapter where we thought the SHs HAD to be hallucinating

[ashen perch]

like 3 episodes left I think

[scenic dirge]

Wow

[minor sky]

1

[pulsar path]

That's fine but what is this place 😬

[barren token]

really funny timing for the mistakes

[minor sky]

the last episode is next weeks

[upbeat yarrow]

i think last episode was emeth punching warcury, so yeah

[minor sky]

this weeks

[ashen perch]

1 cant be true

[scenic dirge]

Have any of the gorosei episodes been worth watching or nah

[minor sky]

? you do realise theyre adapting multiple chaps

[soft fog]

Energy, get drunk, medicine

[ashen perch]

theres 3 chapters left, they cant do that in 1

[urban lodge]

2 episodes

[pulsar path]

You mean like egghead

[scenic dirge]

Yea

[stone terrace]

The gorosei intro was peak

[urban lodge]

Next one doesn't look like it will have the Joyboy haki

[wraith mantle]

They covered two chapters in the most recent episode

[olive sigil]

The channel for science nerds

[ashen perch]

yeah 2 episodes makes sense

[pulsar path]

I think all of second half of egghead is worth it ! Idk about the first half it had some slow parts

[wraith mantle]

Will they show Saturns death before they go on break

[brittle basin]

The Gorosei on the other hand, sans Ethan....

[scenic dirge]

Trying to remember the last episode I watched

[ashen perch]

We have atleast 4 chapters to cover, maybe the remaining are left for post break

but 4 minimum

[pulsar path]

Wow I didn't even know this was a thing here lol

[scenic dirge]

I definitely haven’t seen any Saturn ep onwards. Like Saturn going full spidah

[brittle basin]

The last episode I watched was one hundred something. I think I'm near Jaya or Skypeia.

[urban lodge]

Nika Bonney was so peak but holy shit the Mars getting launched scene was so painful

[scenic dirge]

Unc

[stone terrace]

I really hope they cook with this spread

[brittle basin]

nuh uh, you.

[pulsar path]

How many. Chapters were int eg last episode

[minor sky]

wtf then what are you doing in this chat

[pulsar path]

Wasn't it two

[tough igloo]

the pacing on that shit was so damn bad 🤦🏾‍♂️

[ashen perch]

I havent watched since like the GV episode, just been keeping up with the clips lol

[brittle basin]

i'm fully caught up with the manga

[scenic dirge]

Get ready for a 2 minute slideshow of faces buddy

[minor sky]

o fairs

[brittle basin]

uwu i'm new to won peece, does Wuffy beet Eminem????

[scenic dirge]

Senile

[brittle basin]

not what your mom said

[scenic dirge]

YOU HAVE NOT MET MY MOM

YOU ARE LYING

[wraith mantle]

Who’s the person below dragon

[brittle basin]

let me send her a fax real quick

[rose rune]

Ruffy actually wins against Eminem because he's made of rubber, he took a bite of gum gum

[stone terrace]

Shamrock

[brittle basin]

YA YO YAAA YOOOOOOO

[brittle basin]

anyone remember Shame of Rocks?

[ashen perch]

they should do it like that new Yonko spread they did in Wano

[scenic dirge]

What if that person isn’t shamrock

[wraith mantle]

How the fuck is Oda meant to confirm this

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/screaming-lex-luthor-superman-aaah-raging-gif-11297985997473498830

[urban lodge]

He's doing the Shanks pose from the four emperors color spread

[scenic dirge]

Can Oda show us the fucking burn scar man soon plz

[dark nymph]

The last one is good you should watch it

[wraith mantle]

Do you have the spread handy?

[shadow python]

He might have already done so

[brittle basin]

You've already seen Urouge????

[minor sky]

jesus fuck the manga chap:anime ep ratio for egghead is 68:66.
the pacing must truly be egregrious

[ashen perch]

yeah I will catch up during the break

[scenic dirge]

No I haven’t. I skipped all the chapters he’s apart of

[shadow python]

The man marked by flames could be Dragon, or Saul, or Gaban

[ashen perch]

tbf thats the best its been in ages lol

[stone terrace]

Yeah thats like good for op standards lol

[scenic dirge]

It’s not Saul or Gaban I guarantee you lol. And it’s likely not dragon either. It’s probably just a new character

[minor sky]

i mean true

even better that we're going seasonal

[warm sierra]

Its the marine sengoku was talking about

[minor sky]

we may finally get good production for the entire year

[brittle basin]

.....So, did Oda.

[minor sky]

its definitely a whole new character. why would oda specify them being marked by flames and having a black ship if its someone we knew

[ashen perch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0s4bBR9WgkI

like this

[dark nymph]

I heard that it’s not really seasonal for Elbaf and it’s still gonna be 1 chapter per ep, very disappointing

[wraith mantle]

I see

[ashen perch]

well its seasonal, its gonna be a two cour series every year

but the pacing is gonna be 1:1 minimum yeah

[dark nymph]

Seasonal without the seasonal benefits

[prisma yacht]

1 chapter per ep is still better than 90% of op anime's pacing

[minor sky]

true but they also said they're gonna animate it incorporating more content

[wraith mantle]

Is this mentioned anywhere

Surely they will up the pace

[ashen perch]

yeah, the made a big deal out of it on the stream

Egghead wasnt 1:1, 67 chapters were adapted in 68 episodes

but Elbaf will be 1:1

[urban lodge]

How many chapters

[ashen perch]

AAAAAAAAAAH

but yea I think 1:1 just means 1 chapter minimum

[minor sky]

"incorporating more content, tempo, and pacing of the original manga"

is what they said from the tweet

[ashen perch]

they did say that yeah

also that they will be consulting Oda in greater detail about the original settings and manga

so we will see what that looks like

[minor sky]

that rocks flashback in 2027 might be marineford level

[brittle basin]

well, the proof is in the pudding as they say. so, prove it to us Toei

[minor sky]

wtf did they actually say that?

[ashen perch]

Marineford in the anime was not

good

[minor sky]

i mean marineford level in terms of quality of the arc

[ashen perch]

ah yea

[minor sky]

if what you're saying is true. we can get god valley far more fleshed out

in the anime

[brittle basin]

In the new anime, they should downplay Akainu for the luls

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-one-piece-special-one-piece-fan-letter-mihawk-dracule-mihawk-gif-8927951227574921504

[ashen perch]

https://x.com/sandman_AP/status/1983475425969123748?s=20

sandman (@sandman_AP)

The new One Piece anime will start next April under a new production schedule. According to the staff, they plan to consult Oda in greater detail about various interpretations and settings related to the manga.💪

X · Oct 29, 2025, 10:06 AM

[brittle basin]

so freaking good

[warm sierra]

Toei will consult the Absinthe

[brittle basin]

more episodes like it plz

[prisma yacht]

They shld reanimate mf

[minor sky]

oh we are so back

[stone terrace]

Id be very down for that

[minor sky]

sandman my goat

or goat's wife

[ashen perch]

It was just mentioned on the stream lol

He is just translating

[brittle basin]

Sandman prison arc when?

[ashen perch]

I watched 70% of the stream, they all seemed very very proud of the new schedule lmao

Like they were hyping it up like crazy

[minor sky]

we are feasting

[ashen perch]

We should be in for a good time from April

[minor sky]

we gonna get woki in divine quality man i prayed for this

[ashen perch]

Elbaf might look godly, can't wait

[prisma yacht]

Hope I find a job by that time 😔

[stone terrace]

I wonder if the art style will be changed a bit too

[ashen perch]

hopefully

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/please7tv-please-beg-pray-hope-gif-3860103425950934673

[ashen perch]

I liked how Wano looked

[brittle basin]

Then you can buy One Piece merch. What a beautiful cycle.

[minor sky]

Is there even any actual fights before GV

[prisma yacht]

Indeed

[ashen perch]

Egghead's aesthetic is not quite as good

[stone terrace]

No not indeed

Fuck indeed

[final trench]

Shown? I dont believe so

[prisma yacht]

Just beating up chained loki

and gaban vs hks

[final trench]

Offscreen, rocks vs roger is implied

[brittle basin]

Egghead is neat if you like quasi 1950s and/or Dragonball inspired tech and sci-fi.

[final trench]

Also the davy back fights

[minor sky]

Lmao beating up chained loki 😭😭

[prisma yacht]

Oh like in the flashback?

[ashen perch]

there is action before GV, like Gunko beating half the crew, Sommers v Gaban, the stuff with HKs in general

[minor sky]

Nah I mean before

Like before the flashback

[dark nymph]

It’ll be interesting to see what art style they go with for Elbaf

[final trench]

Oh

Gaban vs sommers

[minor sky]

It's really just gaban and imu stuff

[brittle basin]

Dang, Imu is still in Elbaf waiting for us to arrive.

[minor sky]

Damn so the animators don't even really need to lock in that much for next year

[warm sierra]

Does Jinbe have a plan yet

[minor sky]

Just focus everything on loki, imu scenes

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/gunko-one-piece-gunko-one-piece-loki-loki-one-piece-gif-10353776355109968377

[sweet anvil]

Harald vs rocks

[minor sky]

Before flashback. Cause that's what the anime will adapt for 2026

[sweet anvil]

Not that I remember

2026 lowkey gonna be mid

[minor sky]

😭

It's calm just means they'll be locked in for god valley

Since they're consulting oda for more stuff

[vale heath]

what if i locked in

[wraith mantle]

Beating on a chained man to convince him to join your guild

These holy knights are not very smart are they

[stone terrace]

Was kind of a dick move

[minor sky]

Acc I lied

I need toei to lock in every time we see gunko's ass move

[brittle basin]

Garling could only kill Rocks while he was down for the count
Shamrock could only hurt Loki while he was tied down with chains
Curious.

[prisma yacht]

I hope toei over animates it

[muted hedge]

i mean we don't know if Shamrock could when Loki wasn't in his chains

but going by Shamrocks own words, Loki being chained or not wouldn't make a difference

[wraith mantle]

Shanks could only beat Loki by jumping him with his entire crew

[brittle basin]

I've now downscaled Shamrock

[runic dock]

People still thinking the man at reverie is shanks and not shamrock because his VA wasn’t the currently assigned shamrock VA 😔

[minor sky]

They also said in the manga that it took all the giants to capture loki

So loki 1v100'd shanks 😭✌️

[runic dock]

100 shanks vs 1 loki is crazy

[minor sky]

He really is the modern day rocks

Wtf

[brittle basin]

Folks, we're one chapter closer to Loki's DF reveal.

[muted hedge]

oh brother

[wraith mantle]

Watch Loki be fruitless and it was all just a red herring

[brittle basin]

did you just fucking spoil us?

[muted hedge]

spoiled on the first hint

[urban lodge]

I used to want this but we can't let Socrates win

[brittle basin]

ban this fucker

[dense rapids]

You’re about to be erased

[runic dock]

Loki unchained is more exciting than loki df reveal but I guess the latter will come with the former

[minor sky]

O

I thought this chat was for everything

Mb

[wraith mantle]

Don’t let Socrates influence your opinion on Loki

[dense rapids]

[wraith mantle]

Loki is peak

[urban lodge]

I don't

[muted hedge]

i mean sure, but reading the rules should make it appearant that there are different chats for different stuff

there's even a spoiler-role, lol

[runic dock]

You admitted you did

It’s too late

[urban lodge]

Loki is the 3rd best character in the arc

[wraith mantle]

After harald and rocks

[urban lodge]

No I just don't want Socrates to win, it's different

[prisma yacht]

Let me see

[wraith mantle]

That’s true

[runic dock]

[urban lodge]

Gunko and Harald but yeah

[wraith mantle]

Gunko is still a blank canvass

She has potential

[frozen aspen]

next chapter is gonna end riggt before the castle incident begins

[dense rapids]

I saw someone say what if Gunko just has the immortality surgery

[prisma yacht]

We are not considering shamrock?

[frozen aspen]

Oda loves edging

[dense rapids]

That’s why she’s always been immortal

[urban lodge]

Shamrock is 4th

[dense rapids]

Since we see her become a blade and god knight

Assuming she didn’t already have the contracts

[urban lodge]

He hasn't done much but he's already super interesting

[prisma yacht]

Killingham shld be in top5 as well

[urban lodge]

He's cool

Idk if he makes top 5

[thick mango]

im getting tired of flashback tbh

[prisma yacht]

There's also gaban

So

[urban lodge]

But I do like him

[brittle basin]

Shillingham

[prisma yacht]

Chillingham

[urban lodge]

Gaban is probably 5th yeah

[thick mango]

i guses it wont matter on binge/reread but leaving the present events of elbaf for like months and months starting to get old

[ashen perch]

dw Oda is tired too

[dense rapids]

We do not wanna see Imu vs Poop Green

[ashen perch]

you can just feel it in 67

blitzed through 23 years in one chapter

[thick mango]

good, hopefully he sprints to the end of whatever he wants to cover

[ashen perch]

its not good

its bad

but its happening

[urban lodge]

I knew we'd go back to this ultra fast pace as soon as god valley ended

[thick mango]

its not bad, its good

[brittle basin]

But we can't be surprised. We all know this is the modern pacing of OP. Oda wants that finish line.

[urban lodge]

It's a little unfortunate because it's when the flashback is at its best but I also do wanna go back to the present so idk

[remote maple]

Oda has always written a lot in one small chapter

[ashen perch]

yeah but its a little too quick than even what I was expecting

[remote maple]

it didn't feel different to me

[prisma yacht]

Arsal are the hints out

[frozen aspen]

that has been a more recent development

[thick mango]

we gotta make progress towards an end here the correct answer isnt 20 more years of one piece

[ashen perch]

feels like we're racing ahead to the end in like 2 chapters now

[frozen aspen]

or well more recent years

[remote maple]

are you sure? ive read weekly for years

[ashen perch]

yes

[frozen aspen]

compare pre ts with post timeskip

im not talking about last 4 or 5 years

[remote maple]

well yeah, I mean like since wano

[mighty shell]

i feel like this is true of post timeskip but post ts isn't recent anymore lmao

[ashen perch]

well idk

it really started from Onigashima

[remote maple]

I got caught up in wano

[leaden rivet]

Any chance we get a short Mihawk showing here

[mighty shell]

i've been reading for nearly 8 years and that was wano act 2

[ashen perch]

so I would call it recent

[brittle basin]

i hope more see this vision. we need Oda to reach that finish line. and dilly dallying ain't helping no one.

[wraith mantle]

I think this chapter felt dense because it had information we were actually looking forward to

[muted hedge]

nothing is impossible

[frozen aspen]

I'd have to reread Fishman and punk hazard again but i don't think the chapters were that stacked wither

[urban lodge]

Only if he's a holy knight or blade of god

[dense rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/hand-on-shoulder-akakichi-no-eleven-everything-will-be-ok-my-brother-in-christ-we're-gonna-beat-you-gif-16692013677699419935

[prisma yacht]

😭😭

[leaden rivet]

Not me thinking merry got unbanned but it was just Arsal haha

[ashen perch]

theres multiple shifts in the pacing really

[leaden rivet]

That’s funny

[brittle basin]

alt detected. everyone, destroy "Arsal" if that even is his name

[leaden rivet]

Discord added the …is typing messages back at least

[frozen aspen]

dressrosa was a mess but if you take say Zou it wasn't that bad

[shadow python]

There's a chance that Loki takes some time to talk about Shanks losing a duel against Mihawk even if it has nothing to do with the plot

[brittle basin]

I wish Discord would say "smoothbrains are typing..."

[mighty shell]

it does, you can't see it?

[ashen perch]

East Blue--->Pre TS till Summit War---> Onigashima

[ashen perch]

its just been getting faster and faster

[brittle basin]

oh, god. Oh, no......

[wraith mantle]

Did it ever leave

[leaden rivet]

Not like this flashback is just Loki telling a story, because how tf would he know all this lol

Unless he has omniscient observation haki

[shadow python]

Oh maybe Mihawk was another of the holy knights and fought Shanks here. Then when Shanks rebelled he fought off the marines for him to allow his escape which gave him the title marine hunter

It's possible Lokis eyes really do have special powers

[dense rapids]

OP fans really think shanks and shamrock switched places

[leaden rivet]

For a bit

[wraith mantle]

Yeah how the fuck Loki knows about this shanks stuff in the holy land

All the rocks and harald stuff I will turn a blind eye to

But shanks in the holy land 😭

[shadow python]

Why even have a twin without twin hijinks?

[rich hornet]

The real ones know they’re the same person

[remote maple]

Oda has probably realized he'll never finish his manga if the pacing is as slow as it was

[mighty shell]

i hate this theory it's so stupid

[tough igloo]

lol i wonder if they encountered/met any of the HKs while they were there

Mihawk to Shamrock : you look familiar

Garling to Teach : you look familiar

[dense rapids]

It’s not even a theory

[alpine trench]

It isn’t, yeah, the narrator hijacks it to take it back in time to Harald’s youth

[ashen perch]

East Blue is a very slow pace by modern standards, things get much faster starting from Loguetown and continue at that pace till around Sabaody, Oda takes it up a notch again and then that pace continues all the way to Wano Act 2. From Act 3 to now, its been the way it is now.

but yea, I'd call it a recent shift

[remote maple]

crackhead theories never end

[ashen perch]

yeah I understand why

[wraith mantle]

One piece would have been canceled before syrup village if it was released today

[upbeat yarrow]

bro i saw someone claiming child shamrock poisoned roger and felt like i travelled to another dimension where we somehow are even dumber

[brittle basin]

One Piece chapter 1 still solos your favorite. it's really a perfect chapter

[prisma yacht]

Romance dawn was great

[ashen perch]

really the series that do get cancelled all have worse starts than One Piece

[mighty shell]

they let nue's exorcist keep running i think op would be okay

[tough igloo]

lol the shamrock & shanks theories this chapter have been funny

[wraith mantle]

Why do you say so

[rich hornet]

What ever dimension you came from, take me with you

[ashen perch]

Chapter 1 is perfect, Shell Town and Orange Town are good, Syrup Village is w/e but still would clear the series that get cancelled, Baratie and Arlong Park are peak

[urban lodge]

Evil Buggy WILL be proven right... somehow

[ashen perch]

so One Piece would be fine

[remote maple]

I wanna bet that Luffy meets shamrock before meeting shanks lol

[brittle basin]

'cause it's good. read it!

[prisma yacht]

Kill buggy

[brittle basin]

one piece chapter one is great.

[ashen perch]

I imagine East Blue would also be like 50 chapters if Oda was drawing it now, so that would help

[rich hornet]

Shoulda quit there while we were ahead

[brittle basin]

lucky roo blows a dude's brains out in chapter one. oda wasn't playing games

[wraith mantle]

I watched episode 1 eons ago

[dense rapids]

Yea a 5 year old shamrock poisoned Roger

[brittle basin]

TRUE

[wraith mantle]

Will give chapter 1 a read

[ashen perch]

Episode One is bad, Chapter 1 is perfect

[brittle basin]

i said CHAPTER one, not that garbage Toei one

[spice cairn]

I watch chapters and I read episodes

[wraith mantle]

Damn did Toei fumble

[prisma yacht]

Great intro chapter

[urban lodge]

It is incredibly weird that Toei didn't start with chapter 1

[brittle basin]

I would never in a million years judge One Piece by that godforsaken early anime

[stone terrace]

It was a generational fumble

[spice cairn]

Someone out there does

[ashen perch]

a lot of people do lol

[brittle basin]

Have you not seen early One Piece, Toei pretty much didn't have a budget by the look of things

[spice cairn]

Someone in this very server

[brittle basin]

many out there do. we must....purge them

[spice cairn]

Arsal I keep thinking you're unironically Merry

[ashen perch]

its a common entry barrier for a lot of people who fail to get into the series

[spice cairn]

Can't you call yourself KringleArsal or something

[ashen perch]

I know, I picked the name on purpose

[brittle basin]

it's why I will never in my life recommend this anime. only the manga. ONLY the manga

[rich hornet]

Every day I pray for WIT to save us

[dense haven]

I mean not everyone got time to watch 1000 of garbage

[spice cairn]

I nominate we install a "Kill them instantly" machine upon entry of the server

[runic dock]

I’ve successfully got a bunch of friends into one piece but the few I haven’t was because of this

They couldn’t get past it

[dense haven]

if an anime doesn't get good by 20 eps it's fair to move on

[spice cairn]

Theyre weak.

[brittle basin]

some people watch all the anime in a couple months. that is insane. might as well literally just torture yourself

[runic dock]

I know I told them

[spice cairn]

We pretty much filter those who don't want to stick with OP if they can't even get through the beginning first.

[dark nymph]

Yeah I pretty much don’t recommend one piece to people who are not open to reading manga

[steel stirrup]

You know if Shuron finished his Joyboy theory? I'm tryna read it.

[rich hornet]

Anime should be good by ep 1. I cant even think of one that suddenly figured it out down the road

[brittle basin]

next time make them read the manga under threat of [insert medieval punishment here]

[dense haven]

nowadays I give like 5 eps max to decide if I want to keep watching something

[brittle basin]

i barely watch anime as is

[spice cairn]

I just watch anime scenes on YouTube whenever I want to see a scene animated

Thats it really

[brittle basin]

i try to focus on manga as much as I can. i want that og vision

[spice cairn]

Idt ill ever touch the anime

[dense haven]

I only watched one piece because I was bored af

[brittle basin]

ouch

[wraith mantle]

Under the threat of starving to death while being chained to a tree

[prisma yacht]

lol

[graceful belfry]

You’re more generous than most

[spice cairn]

Not because of bias, but generally because the Manga is just strictly better in every way besides 1 or 2 exceptions

[steel stirrup]

Damn you don't watch the anime at all?

[spice cairn]

With Bink's sake being a big exception

[rich hornet]

I just want The One Piece to be good so I can indoctrinate my family. I’ve been avoiding spoiling them for years

[spice cairn]

That is much better in the anime

[wraith mantle]

Ngl
I thought it wasn’t too bad 😭

[runic dock]

True , I’ll get the Iron Maiden

[ashen perch]

atp, I am not sure if The One Piece is even real

[upbeat yarrow]

bro

[steel stirrup]

Dramatic ass

[ashen perch]

hopefully they announce something at Jump Festa

[brittle basin]

compare it to Wano. it's night and day, and even Wano cheaps out at times

[spice cairn]

My sister is watching OPLA and I'm gaslighting her and I keep telling her that Garp is going to be the twist villain

[ashen perch]

I mean its been what, 2 years since the announcement?

[wraith mantle]

Oh yeah for sure

[runic dock]

Fr

[ashen perch]

and still nothing on it

[brittle basin]

after these mistakes Oda's been making, maybe you're onto something.

[runic dock]

Arsal your fruit would be the drama drama fruit

[steel stirrup]

Drama Drama no Mi

[dense haven]

good things take time arsal

except opm

[runic dock]

That takes miracles

[brittle basin]

the live action will save us

[prisma yacht]

opm good

[steel stirrup]

Fumbled

[ashen perch]

oh it will be 2 years by the time we get to the Jump Festa, this was December 17th, 2023 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJKPk1MriFo

[runic dock]

The recent OPM episode was finally good tho

I wonder wtf happened to everything before that

[wraith mantle]

The legendary 3

[steel stirrup]

finally

LMAOOOO

[steel stirrup]

😂

[prisma yacht]

Lol

[runic dock]

Sad state of affairs

[brittle basin]

Oh, you mean the Wit thing? I thought you meant the literal One Piece itself

[remote maple]

im not even gonna watch it

[ashen perch]

oh yea

I mean that

[steel stirrup]

Shit is brazy

[ashen perch]

because its called

[wraith mantle]

I feel bad for the team that worked on it

[ashen perch]

THE One Piece

[steel stirrup]

THE Drama King

[prisma yacht]

Opm
One piece merch

[brittle basin]

The Bum Piece

[prisma yacht]

The *um piece

[runic dock]

The Um piece

[wraith mantle]

TBP

[spice cairn]

The team doesnt deserve the harassment

[remote maple]

do we know when that one piece remake is coming out

[brittle basin]

The Um, Actually Piece

[wraith mantle]

Fr bruh

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/i-know-what-kind-of-man-you-are-moist-i-know-what-kind-of-mand-you-are-gif-4332896312672829230

[spice cairn]

But yknow people are just inconsiderate all things considered

[runic dock]

Me too

[upbeat yarrow]

ngl if someone told me they wanted to commint self exit game vs they dont believe if the one piece is real, id be real fucking worried

[steel stirrup]

Animators getting sweat shop hours

Ts is still ass tho sorry

[runic dock]

Self exit game without a back up save file ? Couldn’t be me

[wraith mantle]

Because yall pirate the product they make 😭

Of course they will get shafted

[ashen perch]

THE

[brittle basin]

The one piece of crap. gottem.

[ashen perch]

also I forgot how good that little teaser was

hyped us all up real good

[brittle basin]

i wonder if Oda has built any of the Lego sets?

[ashen perch]

only for silence to follow, for 2 years

[runic dock]

They gave him one on tv

[steel stirrup]

Aint nobody pirating ts😭😭

[dense rapids]

Ngl I could care less about it

[remote maple]

I built the going merry set

[runic dock]

So he either had it collecting dust

Or did it by now

[wraith mantle]

Lmaoo I mean anime in general

[spice cairn]

Honestly I think you can argue it was announced too soon, but I think waiting for a little bit longer is fine and won't hurt.

[brittle basin]

i saw that video. but it was already pre-built. put in the elbow grease, Oda, you lazy bum!

[spice cairn]

These things take time

[runic dock]

Lmfao

[ashen perch]

I hope they are consulting Oda on it, that would make it stand out from the original too

[steel stirrup]

Crunchyroll got a monopoly on anime so yea atp thats how its gotta go

[ashen perch]

like maybe theres changes that Oda wants to make, things he wants done a certain way

[spice cairn]

This remake will probably overhaul the Pre-Grandline arcs by a long shot so obviously itll probably take a ridiculous amount of time. Which is fine, the longer hopefully the better.

[wraith mantle]

If they are taking their sweet time I assume they are gonna drop a great adaptation

[brittle basin]

i like Lego, but I can't bring myself to get the LA sets. Baratie is nice, but I still can't do it. i'll just stick to my bootleg anime legos

[ashen perch]

I would like to see the remake involve him greatly

[spice cairn]

I mean I'd assume hes being consulted?

[steel stirrup]

Is Joyboy's VA the same VA as Luffy from the OVA?

[ashen perch]

well depends on how much, I am sure he has been

[prisma yacht]

I dont think we are ever getting a remake

[spice cairn]

Its a good marketing point if they even flat out mention it.

[wraith mantle]

What is there for him to consult

[runic dock]

It’s being done , though , like announced and everything by the attack on Titan first season studio

[steel stirrup]

I think we will but it may take a second

[rich hornet]

Being one piece and not Toei is a huge selling point by itself

[prisma yacht]

[steel stirrup]

Fuck Toei

[wraith mantle]

Aside from possible foreshadowings

[ashen perch]

Really anything, it could be even more of a fresh show if there are things that he wants done differently than the manga too

[spice cairn]

I think that'll be another thing with it right

Obviously it might be vastly different compared to the early run

However I doubt itll be to the extent of OPLA

Since those are completely different intentionally

[ashen perch]

oh yea no that would be too much, but slight differences here and there, maybe tightening up the pace, stuff like that

they could consult Oda on that

[dark nymph]

Wano anime is like 10x better than the manga icl

[spice cairn]

Just enough to where it feels well-rounded

[wraith mantle]

What

[dark nymph]

Even with the horrid pacing at times

[ashen perch]

yea

[solid stone]

such a cool title

[spice cairn]

I think they might add in further lore development into the early arcs definitely

[solid stone]

adding "The" makes everything sound cool

[brittle basin]

The Queen Buffy.

[spice cairn]

So it feels like a more "definitive" way to get into it.

Though honestly just read

[solid stone]

The Queen Buffy. 🎨

[latent hamlet]

People ask what is one piece but never ask what is the one piece

[spice cairn]

Your teacher would be proud of you if you read One Piece instead

[latent hamlet]

[brittle basin]

This is the way the peasants shall refer to me going forward.

[spice cairn]

Why call it THE One Piece

[solid stone]

i prefer "a queen buffy movie" actually

[brittle basin]

THE Imu

Themu

[latent hamlet]

They already call imu "the great one"

[dark nymph]

Hey have you seen the one piece? Doesn’t really work ngl

[latent hamlet]

At that point just commit and say the imu

[brittle basin]

The Rocks

[fallen meteor]

Temu

[solid stone]

imagine if this title card flashes every time someone's about to mention

[spice cairn]

We should replace the Luffy in the logo with Chopper

Since he's probably more marketable and hence will bring more newcomers

[latent hamlet]

At least he'd get more screen time

[brittle basin]

replace the luffy with an i, because human bodies don't make letter sounds. Is Oda stupid???

[runic dock]

And cuts to commercial break each time

[spice cairn]

Luffy being the I is probably a deep metaphor

[brittle basin]

Goda

[spice cairn]

Like what does this mean

[willow pollen]

When’s the last time we got news about this

[stone tulip]

How so ?

[latent hamlet]

U know what has an i?
Nika

[willow pollen]

1.5 years ago?

[solid stone]

dang I just realized

[brittle basin]

Luffy is in place of the i because this is his story.

[solid stone]

we probably won't have eyecatches

since it's gonna be a streaming show

[prisma yacht]

Wow smugu cook

[runic dock]

Luffy is selfish always thinking about himself clearly

[solid stone]

on the other hand episodes can be as long as they want, at least

unless they plan on broadcasting it in Japan

[stone tulip]

Mosa could have been anyone really but honestly according to translators Mosa speaks very feminine so we might narrow down male characters here.

[brittle basin]

It's Shirahoshi

[dense rapids]

It’s Shirahoshi

[brittle basin]

Oda is being very obvious, no red herrings, etc

[runic dock]

Not the same female

[spice cairn]

Its me

[runic dock]

Not all females are shirahoshi

Especially crybabies

[brittle basin]

you're the only anti-Shirahoshi user here. we're gonna have to do something about that

[stone tulip]

Nope https://twitter.com/dawnstussy/status/1995149073687744581?s=61&t=yLg_khvJTuFaZJEvvLaM9g

Stussy Sama - Dawn&Dusk (@DawnStussy)

【Lost in Translation by a Native Japanese Speaker】

Most people seem to think “Mosa” is actually Shirahoshi, but from a native-Japanese perspective, There’s one thing that stands out to me — the way the two of them speak.

Shirahoshi often ends her sentences with very formal

X · Nov 30, 2025, 3:13 PM

[wraith mantle]

If it’s not shirahoshi Oda is a hack

[spice cairn]

Ok but have you considered Big Mom is on the phone?

[hazy echo]

https://youtu.be/-30kPHsRrq0?si=P40voWUTfgOz9LNm

[brittle basin]

OK. It's still gonna be Shirahoshi.

[runic dock]

Nah even two people that want it to be shirahoshi can’t denyy argument and they admitted it

[runic dock]

Buggy and pink

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/littlebigwhale-among-us-baleine-ejected-gif-19330838

[stone tulip]

What’s up with sudden switch ? Did you forget about the tweet yesterday?

[dark nymph]

Maybe she just switches up the way she speaks when talking to Loki

[dense rapids]

Earl of Farfarear

[brittle basin]

And if it's not Shirahoshi, it's gonna be Ida. And if it's not Ida, it's gonna be Meeks' insane idea.

[runic dock]

Yall are the ones in fear , you can’t demy the point being made

[dense rapids]

What I’ve been saying Mosa is Shirahoshi for months?

[runic dock]

[wraith mantle]

Loki will have to face the nonce allegations tho

[stone tulip]

Doesn’t make sense cause Oda is pretty strict when it comes to speech patterns, also this another reason why https://twitter.com/dawnstussy/status/1995158213940109588?s=61&t=yLg_khvJTuFaZJEvvLaM9g

Stussy Sama - Dawn&Dusk (@DawnStussy)

Shirahoshi spent almost ten years practically locked away, saying,
“The only one I ever talk to is Megalo.”

But Loki tells Mosa, “You and I have been friends for a long time.”

From that alone, it feels pretty unlikely that Mosagou and Shirahoshi are the same person.

X · Nov 30, 2025, 3:49 PM

[runic dock]

You’ve also been posting this

[dense rapids]

Yea because I saw it

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/kendrick-kendrick-lamar-c-walk-kendrick-c-walk-skip-gif-14132102419655206296

[stone tulip]

Yeah I know but didn’t you gave u0 on that yesterday?

[dense rapids]

Does that mean I believe it?

[prisma yacht]

It's simple really delete the post buggy

[dense rapids]

No?

[prisma yacht]

We don't mind

[wraith mantle]

Yall are just throwing tweets at each other 😭

[prisma yacht]

Join us

[runic dock]

I mean I’m not hating it , just saying it’s a good point if even shirahoshi believers acknowledge it

[digital spear]

DONT DO IT BUGGY

Dont join the dark side

[jade rain]

If mosa is shirahoshi, then for me it's one of the best theories rightfully predicted in this server 👍

[prisma yacht]

DO IT BUGGY

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/madness-combat-baby-fight-gif-22113478

[dense rapids]

I believe the theory, i posted that to contradict it

[thick mango]

i really dont get not believing shirahoshi is mosa post-1167

[stone tulip]

Okay then

[prisma yacht]

EMBRACE THE DARKSIDE

[digital spear]

STAND PROUD

[dense rapids]

Mosa is Shirahoshi

[spice cairn]

Is this the leaked animation for One Pieces Kids spinoff?

[prisma yacht]

YESSS

[steel stirrup]

😭😭

[dense rapids]

Adam and Eve
Loki and Shirahoshi

[brittle basin]

This is how the kids on Punk Hazard would fight.

[digital spear]

COOK

[steel stirrup]

Slow down there buckaroo

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-laugh-ai-baby-babyfryingme-baby-sob-folk-gif-18221933230434867320

[runic dock]

If she is , despite people predicting it , I’d still want it to make sense in the story so there would have to be a lot of explaining to do

[wraith mantle]

Is this the baby??

[stone tulip]

Sure but right now there are outright contradicts of that

[spice cairn]

Easily could've started a rebellion, just saying

[prisma yacht]

LESGOOO

[brittle basin]

we're going to send this baby to the abyss which is morally OK because it's not real

[digital spear]

This is the baby that won

[dense rapids]

Both were trapped at the Adam and Eve tree

[spice cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-baby-ready-to-fight-baby-fight-gif-7961841304088689582

[digital spear]

Holy cooookkkkkkkkkkkk

[brittle basin]

baby head with human proportions

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-trying-not-to-laugh-laughing-facepalm-lmao-gif-15446474421410342464

[spice cairn]

One Piece heights:

[digital spear]

bro locks in

[runic dock]

If mosa isn’t shirahoshi though I won’t let the shiki deniers hear the end of it

I’ll get real toxic

Trust

[wraith mantle]

Lmaooo

[spice cairn]

Who would it be then

[pseudo gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-posted-up-gif-16731840872978308559

[brittle basin]

Shuron posting in r/piratefolk

[dense rapids]

Loki and Shirahoshi

[runic dock]

I will get downright unbearable

[wraith mantle]

It’s Neptune himself

Loki is gay

[dark nymph]

The speech pattern thing is valid, but it’s not a set in stone rule. She could be trying to avoid the WG figuring out who Loki is talking to if they were to intercept their calls.

[jade rain]

How would it not make sense if it's right, based on what the people said it was because roger also called her mosa and for what purpose would oda add neptune detail in the last chapter if not for mosa reveal?

[thick mango]

if its not shirahoshi the name drop of mosa in the neptune harald conversation is some of the dumbest shit in the entire series

[digital spear]

So Im the real victim here

[spice cairn]

Babies are so alien-like man how the fuck did we let this happen

[prisma yacht]

!cook

[tropic nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1211111343852228638/1217510693411229746/cook.png?ex=66044a31&is=65f1d531&hm=fda7fc91afb3dda1c7a90192efda3372e268931d0bcc5db2b97d635b65b260ae&

[iron oriole]

You think Mosa is Shiki or what?

[spice cairn]

Mosa is Wang Zhi's ghost

[steel stirrup]

Adam and Eve huh

[runic dock]

Based on this that’s all

This would need explaining that’s all

[pseudo gulch]

Yeah fr, I'm lucky I was born at 8 years old already

[runic dock]

Not what I was going for there lmao

[runic dock]

Maybe you can get a free pass cause you’re polite

[brittle basin]

My opinion has arrived.

[spice cairn]

Yeah thankfully my mom got the early starter pack and I was born at 16 so I thankfully avoided that awkward early game

[thick mango]

you gotta weigh these things. A subjective analysis of speech patterns does not outweigh the character being explictly called the nickname in question that is used for no other character

[hazy echo]

https://x.com/avaxxah/status/1995499615677038672?s=46

▫️ (@avaxxah)

fooling your brother

X · Dec 1, 2025, 2:25 PM

[steel stirrup]

You just now seeing this? Fake ass fan.

[wraith mantle]

Lmaooooi

[iron oriole]

Oh, just trying to work out what Shiki deniers has to do with Mosa being Shirahoshi or not

[prisma yacht]

Cuties

[brittle basin]

i am. i was cheating on him with Morj.

[digital spear]

Your honor I can explain it all #also-manga message

[wraith mantle]

This chapter gonna pay rent for so many optubers

[stone tulip]

I can understand the feeling, I feel the same way with Vivi being the “final” straw hat

[runic dock]

A lot of shiki deniers are also shirahoshi believers

[iron oriole]

Ah

[steel stirrup]

The Raid will Fail Morj???

[brittle basin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1ZeAlM3Gw8 @hazy turret

[digital spear]

The Fisher Tiger Paradox

[prisma yacht]

The Fisher together paradox

[wraith mantle]

So is fisher tiger just a fraud now

[iron oriole]

Slave propaganda

[brittle basin]

NO

Oda is

[steel stirrup]

Oda glazing Shank so badly he fucked off the timeline

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/izana_dtw/status/1995543310149320917
ignore the hashtag

Davy D. Izana (@izana_dtw)

Loki #ONEPIECE1167 #ONEPIECE1168

X · Dec 1, 2025, 5:19 PM

[brittle basin]

Shanks needs to die

[stone tulip]

Plus this too

[digital spear]

https://youtu.be/Zru2met9Kes?si=zmrDPuYwvTh09DV-

[prisma yacht]

😔

[steel stirrup]

Fire every editor at Shueisha

Wtf is this

[runic dock]

Yeah…I just can’t deny these two pieces , something is off and a red herring or things have to be explained in detail later

[steel stirrup]

How did they let this happem

[brittle basin]

I can't read the word December anymore without experiencing PTSD thanks to @formal wagon

[stone tulip]

The thing is it isn’t just the nickname here, Shirahoshi also explicitly said she never talked to anyone else other than the shark friend she has before meeting Luffy, that doesn’t add up with Loki at all.

[ivory rivet]

Wait what

[clever idol]

I dont think this is enough tnh

[ivory rivet]

How are you guys thinking that loki met shirahoshi

[willow pollen]

Maybe she didn’t want to tell luffy who she speaks too

[steel stirrup]

All bro had to say was "The 2nd time around FT was caught again"

[prisma yacht]

They didn't

[wraith mantle]

The editor lied when he told Oda that he checked the plot integrity of fisher tiger’s flashback

[brittle basin]

over phone

[ivory rivet]

Wasn't it harold and neptune meeting

[iron oriole]

[jade rain]

Idk in detail about japanese phrases but when translated, i could see shirahoshi saying the same verses as mosa

[thick mango]

i dont think thats hard to wave away, you just add 'in-person'

[brittle basin]

they never physically met

[dense rapids]

Can the forbidden place be opened

[clever idol]

Any number of things coyld explain it

[prisma yacht]

How many hints do we have

[dark nymph]

Or she just completely forgot about Lokis existence

[steel stirrup]

Bamboozled

Swindled

Hoodwinked

Lied to

All ts

[dense rapids]

Yes

[stone tulip]

Nah I do think that’s enough for me to point out the contradictions towards that theory cause otherwise I would have believed the theory by now

[clever idol]

But i domt think we should 100% doubt jt being shirahoshi.

[prisma yacht]

I'm joining u guys this wekk btw

[steel stirrup]

Wym

[brittle basin]

Conclusion? Oda's current editor is racist towards fishmen.

[hard brook]

True

[wraith mantle]

That’s it
Cancel this entire manga

[prisma yacht]

I'll be reading spoilers

[stone tulip]

Again the translators would have specified it being the case here

[steel stirrup]

Two Speed faces is wild

[runic dock]

The argument is based on original Japanese intention (Oda intention)

[steel stirrup]

Welcome back to the Dark Side

[iron oriole]

Definitely shouldn't write it off, the whole "Shaggy" comment happening once sure red herring but it happening twice? Thats a bit more than just a red herring

[clever idol]

Before this last chapter i wouldve agreed. But that convo was way too coincidental

[brittle basin]

Please, don't. I also hate filthy, disgusting fishmen.

[steel stirrup]

!mods

[runic dock]

Maybe this is another fisher tiger case , oda forgetting his own story 😔

[tropic nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/486983010025996299/1213179020192256050/image.png?ex=65f48802&is=65e21302&hm=1942e7e0e6e904c758cfcc338a0b3aaf5748f4b88335b8ca669695fcfdc234d1&

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/no-nooo-nope-eat-fingerwag-gif-12358308896192153975

[stone tulip]

I don’t think Shirahoshi would lie about something like that

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-star-wars-sad-crying-skywalker-gif-12607558

[thick mango]

I just think he didnt have it planned and is retconning it. Much like loki's silhouette, it seems loki plans have changed recently

[prisma yacht]

I have suffered enough

[runic dock]

These excuses are getting out of hand

[brittle basin]

Also, fun fact (i.e. true story): Killingham is a fishman.

[steel stirrup]

You tink so

Is it the teeth

[stone tulip]

There is also a chance of red herring tho or perhaps Mosa could have had some connections with Shirahoshi without being Shirahoshi herself

[steel stirrup]

Or something else

[brittle basin]

mute me for 24 hours if it's revealed Killingham is not a fishman

[prisma yacht]

Nasty teeth btw

[steel stirrup]

I love the sharp demonic teeth

[iron oriole]

No shot the CDs let any fishman be a CD/HK

[dense rapids]

Rimoshifu

RIMO - a set of swimming forms

Shifu - a martial arts instructor

Fishman Karate

Ammo Knights have one horn like killingham and trident

[stone tulip]

At least Fisher Tiger situation could be clarified in sbs

[muted hedge]

https://fixupx.com/pinsgravez/status/1903315345580101716
lol

pine_pin (@pinsgravez)

mini comic of these chaotic red hair twins (Garling must be so done that he decided to separate them)
︀︀#Shanks #Shamrock #ONEPIECE

**🔁 6 ❤️ 28 👁️ 1.5K **

FixupX · Mar 22, 2025, 5:18 AM

[dense rapids]

Been saying this since day 1

[steel stirrup]

They let a Yeti in that mf

[vestal mural]

If anyone really thinks oda never retconned anything then they’re insane. This series has been running for 28 years. Come on

Only way op could run this long is with many retcons

[runic dock]

[prisma yacht]

Ouuu nice

[steel stirrup]

Unless that was a Zoan transformation

[dark nymph]

It is definitely a contradiction but Oda is a hack so it’s still Shirahoshi

[brittle basin]

@rose rune

[shadow python]

Could Mosa not also be Neptune? He probably wants to get to know the man he offhandedly promised his unborn daughter to

[sonic oasis]

new choptir is peak

[steel stirrup]

If they let a Yeti in why not let one or two Fishmen in

[muted hedge]

i don't think that Killingham is a fishman

[shadow python]

Loki should also be able to tell from Shiras voice that she isn't a shaggy old man

[muted hedge]

and I don't think the yeti is an actual yeti

[steel stirrup]

I doubt it

[hard brook]

Mosa is old Elbaf guy I swear

[brittle basin]

it could be yes

[iron oriole]

Yeti is probably a DF

[muted hedge]

the Yeti is probably in their zoan state

[steel stirrup]

Zoan transformation

[brittle basin]

some think Jarul is Mosa. but it's gonna be Whimpyhoshi or Ida

[thick mango]

neptune is the only non-shirahoshi i could believe

[muted hedge]

and Killingham just has sharp teeth

[brittle basin]

we're not using AI are we?

[prisma yacht]

Only whimpyhoshi

[wraith mantle]

mosa is neptune and loki is into dilfs

[dense rapids]

What’s the difference if that’s what it is…

[hazy echo]

https://tenor.com/view/grok-is-this-real-twitter-x-ai-gif-5398025130757081084

[steel stirrup]

You would think Imu would allow one or two Fishmen even if only to have a CI somewhere

[stone tulip]

To be fair that’s not something similar, sure I do acknowledge there had been retcons but none of retcons before outright contradicted the story this badly, only time that happened was the whole Roger bejng Ace’s retcon but even then Oda managed to explain how that worked despite Ace being only 20, either way if the theory is true then Oda may need to explain these contradictions

[shadow oxide]

no

[dense rapids]

Literally same explanation

[shadow python]

It being Ida would be odd. I'm pretty confident Loki can recognize Shira isn't an old man but I'm positive Loki would recognize Idas voice

[stone tulip]

Let alone downplaying said contradicts in first place

[dense rapids]

You feel better?

[steel stirrup]

Imu doesn't even want extra information or intelligence.

Not a single Fishman spy

[brittle basin]

I don't respect any answers given by AI, regardless of any factual information. my hatred for it knows no bounds. and i now put into quesiton anything and everything you've ever typed

[stone tulip]

Like it’s simple mistake really compared to whatever the fuck is going with Mosa situation

[steel stirrup]

Bro wants nothing to do with them at all

[jade rain]

Yea, like i said idk what difference does that make since I can't fathom japanese. I mean is it so unbelievable for the same person to say two different phrases? i can't comment on it since I don't understand it

[muted hedge]

a fishman being a God Knight would go against all the bigotry the Celestial Dragons have shown so far

[thick mango]

i dont think the exact nature of shirahoshi's isolation is such a key plot detail that it 'contradicts the story this badly'

[dense rapids]

🤷‍♂️

[stone tulip]

It’s definitely not Ida nor Jarul for sure

[iron oriole]

Imu wants them to stay at the bottom of the ocean where they belong

[steel stirrup]

Yea I doubt a HK

But the WG doesnt even have Fishman recruits or a spy or something somewhere

[steel stirrup]

It would appear so

[muted hedge]

yeah, they literally only have them as slaves

and even then it's mostly the mermaids

[dense rapids]

Rimoshifu betrayed the Neptune Family

[clever idol]

Sure. But think what we can agree on is there is likely a connection to Shirahoshi. The line about her not havinf spoken with anyone to me is something oda would forget about if he were to do this

[steel stirrup]

Can't even be Marines

[stone tulip]

Except I do due to circumstances by her own statement plus speech pattern is always accurate within characters too

[steel stirrup]

They won't even allow Fishmen to be fodder for them

[ivory rivet]

Which panel are you guys discussing where loki supposedly talks with shirahoshi

[steel stirrup]

No Marines no nothing

[runic dock]

It is yes , oda doesn’t do this with any other character , it implies a massive tonal shift in the way they talk , despite if they’re both feminine

[thick mango]

guess we're just at agree to disagree then

[iron oriole]

They're simply not good enough

[muted hedge]

the one with Mosa

[steel stirrup]

All of his Underworld conversations on the Den Den Mushi

[stone tulip]

Yeah I don’t think it’s coincidence that both share the same nickname, like yeah for now I doubt that they are the same people but that doesn’t rule out them not having any connections with each other

[stone tulip]

Sure

[muted hedge]

have you seen a Kirin?

[vital heart]

@dense rapids how you fw the new davy jones info

[steel stirrup]

But arent they also supposed to be naturally physically stronger or was that just Arlong gassing himself up

[iron oriole]

Bro's using a pic of a Seahorse for a Qirin

[brittle basin]

someone posted a panel yesterday where Mosa's final word is blocked out intentionally, as if to suggest they are ending a sentence similarly to how Shirahoshi does so sometimes. I can't back up how true this is, however.

[prisma yacht]

What info

[vital heart]

That he was a boatswain

[dense rapids]

What new info

[muted hedge]

what

[steel stirrup]

Tf is that

[brittle basin]

Meek, chapter soon.

[iron oriole]

I mean.. they probably are when it comes to the average human vs average fishman but thats why they make good slaves

[dense rapids]

Oh yea

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-speed-stream-ishowspeed-stream-speed-nod-gif-1082323842437565509

[runic dock]

I don’t deny some kind of plot trajectory may be in store for shirahoshi and loki , it being mosa just doesn’t make sense for now , especially if oda remembers the past things she’s said

[dense rapids]

Wait forgot to post my daily

[clever idol]

He's clearly saying theres somethung here between those two that connects with Mosa but as far as what we will see. Maybe its one of the brothers

[prisma yacht]

Ewww

[muted hedge]

where did you get the information that he was a boatswain?

[prisma yacht]

Kill buggy

[dense rapids]

[steel stirrup]

But you would think Imu would put that to the side like with the Giants and at least use them for their strength.

Bro just said "Nah never"

[vital heart]

Meek translation of the Davy Jones SBS question:

"Right.. first, the phrase "Davy Back" doesn't even exist in legends. The Davy Back Fight (DBF) is the name of a game that exists in the One Piece world. However, the Davy Jones Locker, which was mentioned in Volume 33 by Robin, is a famous and old legend among sailors. There are various versions but basically, Davy Jones was a liar, a good for nothing pirate. He was an incredibly avaricious boatswain that took everybody's belongings and treasure, and shut them all in his own locker. That's what he was known for. Among pirates, he was a bad guy, and so one day, the devil cursed him to continue to live on the sea floor for eternity. Ever since then, whenever a ship, sailor, or even treasure sinks into the sea, they all end up on the sea floor, shut in his locker, never to be found again. That's how the legend went. This is how pirates may use this phrase --> "I'm gonna toss you into Davy Jones' locker!!", which means --> "I'll sink you into the deep sea and kill you!" is how it works. "

@muted hedge @prisma yacht

[dense rapids]

Isn’t the word used “Deck Chief”

[iron oriole]

I mean... they do, as slaves... Giants are just that much of a powerhouse that they're for battle

[vital heart]

Same kanji

[prisma yacht]

Gasp

[dense rapids]

Yes?

[vital heart]

Idk the difference.

[prisma yacht]

Unpossible

[muted hedge]

oh i thought you meant actually new information

[dense rapids]

A deck chief basically supervises the entire deck

[scenic dirge]

Wait what? Did Oda make a booboo with the fisher tiger timeline or is Redon being stupid?

[vital heart]

Yes but the Viz translation skipped that info

[clever idol]

I wonder who coated haralds ship for the fmi trip

[twin knoll]

how could

[clever idol]

Maybe rayleigh?

[muted hedge]

interesting

[tough igloo]

Davy Jones gonna be more like Teach, than he is Rocks … in terms of being a “bad guy “

[brittle basin]

Does Viz use Stephen for the SBS, as well?

[steel stirrup]

I understand ijs how wild it is that bro hates them so much that they won't even allow them to be front line human shield fodder Marines. Only chains for them. Its wild to me.

[scenic dirge]

He just rawdogged that shit and swam down himself

[vital heart]

Idk. Probably

[scenic dirge]

No coating needed

[prisma yacht]

There must be other coaters as well

[dense rapids]

He went there before Rayleigh was on sabaody too

[brittle basin]

[clever idol]

Wpuldnt be surprised

[tough igloo]

this the same man who jumped off the red line .. I would expect nothing less

[clever idol]

He also wouldve came from the new world and never made it to saboady

[scenic dirge]

Exactly

[muted hedge]

i want to hear Haralds explanation for why he didn't eat the fruit of Elbaph

[clever idol]

I said ray because of the gaban connection

[muted hedge]

given Xebec thought he'd be perfect for it

[polar willow]

Im still sad over Xebecs demise

[tough igloo]

i think Harald knew deep down his bootlicking ass wouldn’t be a perfect fit for it

[steel stirrup]

Like bro really said "All you can get is a ball and a chain or the fuck out my face

[clever idol]

Cuz its might be prophesied to destroy the world or some shit

[dense rapids]

“I don’t want to put fear in the heart of humans any more. The legendary fruit of Elbaph must not be eaten”

[muted hedge]

what could the fruit even be at this point

[iron oriole]

It might be that they never used to exist prior to the world flooding originally & they evolved to survive & thats what pisses Imu off about them, how dare they deny their death & evolve to survive in the world that Imu wants

[polar willow]

Jesse Lee Peterson of One Piece

[tough igloo]

feels like Rocks based his assumption of Harald being the perfect fit for the fruit based off his strength .. but we know to get the full potential out of a fruit your mind and body have to align with it

[steel stirrup]

Ooh I didn't tink about that angle

[stone tulip]

According to translators Mosa sounds feminine so idk, but who knows

[shadow python]

Harald might be the strongest in the world at the time of this flashback

[muted hedge]

how did Xebec know about the fruit even

[runic dock]

Gum gum

[clever idol]

I can see it but also rapid evolution like that would be crazy naturally. Maybe they were created from the ancient kingdom too

[dense marsh]

Rock got rocked so hard by imu

[steel stirrup]

My headcanon for now until we get more answers is Eris.

[stone tulip]

Just like how Luffy is more like Joyboy

[muted hedge]

would that satisfy?

[runic dock]

Idk tbh

[dense marsh]

Harald rn:

[runic dock]

I’d have to see how it would play out

[iron oriole]

Very possible the AK played a hand since the AWs were supposedly made by them & well... Shirahoshi is an AW

[shadow python]

Maybe it was in the encyclopedia. This fruit is perfect for killing Imu the guy no one knows exists.

[muted hedge]

didn't he meet her late in his life, when he had already been to Harald countless times?

[runic dock]

There was no hostages in Harald’s case

Even worse

[tough igloo]

could be something passed down through the davy clan that they know about

[muted hedge]

also i find it interesting that Eris was a pirate before

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/kick-yeet-gtfo-kick-cliff-push-cliff-gif-9944415665032080774

[muted hedge]

wonder which crew she was part of

[clever idol]

They would also know whaf would happen to the world and cpuldve prepared tp have humans adapt in this way too.

[muted hedge]

a lot of stuff passed down through the Davy family, lol

[dense marsh]

Fraud d xebec thinking he defeat imu
Reality:

[runic dock]

The bing bong pirates , it was said to be their era before rocks era

[steel stirrup]

We don't know when he met her we just know when he started his family with her

Just because they started their family when they did doesn't mean they had met like two days before or something.

[clever idol]

Maybe Clover's crew

[polar willow]

Teach wouldve forced Harald to work with him

[clever idol]

No he wouldnt

[polar willow]

Unlike Rocks who smacked Kaido for even suggesting it

[clever idol]

He hasnt forced anyone to work with him

[muted hedge]

Teach definitely would have, i feel

[steel stirrup]

Also this

She was a pirate.

Who knows when he met her and how long ago

[tough igloo]

lol Teach would’ve just taken the fruit once he realized Harald wants to be a WG dog .. Rocks was trying too hard to convince him otherwise

Kaido was right lol

[polar willow]

Hes got literally slaves on his island

[rich hornet]

He could try

[tough igloo]

just take that shit by force lol

[shadow python]

Oh we should probably talk about the logistics of Eris

[muted hedge]

yeah that's true, i just got the interpretation that they were early in their relation

[clever idol]

He doesnt force pirates to join him

[clever idol]

Harald isnt the same as a slave

[shadow python]

Did the crew not know about her? Did he just take a break for awhile have Teech and come right back?

[clever idol]

And u know ot

[muted hedge]

didn't he do that with Ace? though Ace stood his ground and ended up defeated

[rich hornet]

As of last chapter he is actually

[polar willow]

Yep

[clever idol]

No he asked ace and ace declimed

[muted hedge]

i suppose

[clever idol]

Badum tsss

[polar willow]

He gave Ace to the government because Ace declined to work with him

[shadow python]

He offered to be a slave but the govt. Thought it was a trick so they knighted him instead

[tough igloo]

they only fought cause he told Ace that he was going after Luffy

[muted hedge]

and Thatch

i assume

[steel stirrup]

Also BB having the knowledge he does

He knew about the Yami fruit

He knows what Lunarians/Seraphim are

He knows about the poneglyphs and we never see him "learning" that info the way the SHs did.

The only common denominator for both of them having the knowledge they had is they both had Eris.

[tough igloo]

yeah thatch too

[clever idol]

Yep teach has never forced anyone to join his crew

Hes all about freedom

[muted hedge]

has to be some Davy memorial book he has at this point

[clever idol]

He gave a whole speech to kuzan about it lol

[tough igloo]

even with the impel down prisoners .. he didn’t force them .. he just gave them a choice lol

[polar willow]

Id bet anything it was Davy Jones fruit

[shadow python]

Bb knows about seraphim? He knew of the pacifista because they were common knowledge by that point but he was just as confused as we were about the seraphs

[iron oriole]

He doesn't force but its also like... you don't get much of a choice

[rich hornet]

I think it’s just Eris. Eris and Teech escaped with the clothes on their backs and what else?

[steel stirrup]

Also I dont think its a coincidence that Eris looks like Robin who is an archeologist.

BBs in world hobbies are also archeology.

Its kind of right there.

[runic dock]

An offer they can’t refuse , what bloodthirsty criminal would ever turn that down?

[iron oriole]

Especially if you have a strong DF... BB be like "fine don't join whatever idc but we're gonna need that DF"

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/one-peak-one-piece-one-piece-cry-its-so-peak-gif-13413926760013023520

[hazy turret]

I’m not watching this

Not unless I want to burst a blood vessel or two

[steel stirrup]

He gave Ace a few chances to join even in the middle of their fight

[clever idol]

This is only really true with the impel down folks. Kuzan had a choice. Ace did (in the sense that bb didnt know about the luffy and ace connection)

[brittle basin]

I'm just glad you and I are of the same accord with this Fisher fiasco. I demand justice, blood even!

[clever idol]

Or they would kill them and take it

[runic dock]

Stupid ace

[hazy turret]

This is the first substantial counter to mosahoshi that I’ve seen

[steel stirrup]

I miss his dumbass

[clever idol]

But thats only if bb believes he can win

[runic dock]

I think that’s what unc was implying

[brittle basin]

Oda can eeeeasily retcon that twitter image

[runic dock]

[iron oriole]

Yeah it is

[steel stirrup]

Which one

[hazy turret]

https://tenor.com/view/eat-him-alive-smiling-friends-zach-hadel-smiling-friends-season-3-cheering-gif-10653967105228196028

[muted hedge]

that could be interesting

[clever idol]

Yea its still circumstantial. Id wager bb kills users he considers weak than offering for them yo join at all. And then u have someone like hancock who he just knew would have never said yes and didnt bother to ask

[steel stirrup]

She could mean talk to in fucking person😭

[shadow python]

Does Shira not talk to her father or the guards?

[steel stirrup]

Exactly

[prisma yacht]

Cooked

[runic dock]

And Moriah , he kept him in the just in case cages

[steel stirrup]

Damn im cooked?

[runic dock]

[prisma yacht]

No you cooked

[clever idol]

I wonder why that is tbh

[rich hornet]

The issue with this argument is it assumes Oda pays attention to continuity

[steel stirrup]

Ohh

[brittle basin]

Oda can also just say "oh, she just didn't want to reveal her connection to elbaf/loki" or "well, actaully she DID have more than one friend, I just wanted to save the reveal for elbaf" he can just make up anything he wants to justify it

[clever idol]

Does bb know hes a kozuki?

[hazy turret]

Does anyone remember which chapter it’s confirmed that Bonney is a child

[tough igloo]

probably not

[clever idol]

Then why keep moria alive

[runic dock]

Maybe something to do with the shadow fruit importance or thriller bark gv connection…if that is even still on the table

[clever idol]

Amd not just take his fruut

[dense rapids]

Somewhere in middle of egghead

[tough igloo]

only kozuki’s he would know is Oden Momo Hiyori

[runic dock]

OH RIGJT

[shadow python]

Bb is a historian so if anyone were to know that it's him

[runic dock]

IT HAS TO BE that

[iron oriole]

Probably to break him into joining, an army of zombies would be pretty powerful

[hazy turret]

…thanks

[clever idol]

Yea but why not take the fruit and give it to a willing subordimate

[runic dock]

He had to have realized there’s a chance moriah could read the glyphs

It only makes a lot of sense