also-manga

[warm sierra]

Saint Rockstar

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/taking-notes-notes-gif-17478299096235163441

[digital spear]

Saint Roux from the Lucky family
Saint Beckman from the Ben family

[fallen meteor]

Saint Building Snake

[spice cairn]

Wheres Marx Maxx

[digital spear]

USOPP IS A CD

[spice cairn]

Did he betray Roger and become a HK?

[stone terrace]

Kojima saw the name building snake and kicked himself for not thinking of it first

[digital spear]

Yes and now hes Marcus Marx

[runic dock]

Merry is a CD too that’s why kuro couldn’t kill him

[spice cairn]

Building Snake implies the existence of built Escalator

[vestal mural]

Saint shanks sounds so wrong

[digital spear]

Yeah because Kuro is from cipherpol he cant kill his boss

[muted hedge]

aside from the implications of bearing the 'Saint' title, i think it sounds pretty sick

[runic dock]

Still waiting on the shanks diaper having shanks name written on it reveal

[warm sierra]

We gotta get info on which bum on the roger pirates named shanks

[runic dock]

Exactly you get it

[prisma yacht]

https://x.com/avaxxah/status/1995499615677038672?t=SpvFV_kSU5UpFmaCmZUhtQ&s=19

▫️ (@avaxxah)

fooling your brother

X · Dec 1, 2025, 2:25 PM

[stone terrace]

I wish shanks had a CD name but i guess there was already one goku reference with him already lol

[fallen meteor]

Saint Limejuice

[runic dock]

Roger pirates didn’t name him , his mother did , we saw her call him that

[digital spear]

One piece characters are so smart

[muted hedge]

oh by the way this chapter debunked all the Shanks not being his real name theories

[prisma yacht]

Always the twins

[muted hedge]

since even Garling called him Shanks

[warm sierra]

I guess his onesie had the name then or whatever

[runic dock]

It wasn’t this chapter it was his mom chapter

[runic dock]

Had to be

That’s the only explanation

Or Oda is cooked

[digital spear]

Figarland Shankscotch

[fallen meteor]

What if the baby said
My name Shanks

[digital spear]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-smile-baby-speed-baby-trying-not-to-laugh-baby-laugh-blue-baby-gif-10135956261563826109

[warm sierra]

Baby Shanks spelled his name with wifi Haki

[fallen meteor]

Kill this baby

[prisma yacht]

Kill buggy

[digital spear]

Sorry hes too blue

[fallen meteor]

Annihilate ai blue baby

[digital spear]

This makes sense for both

[vestal mural]

I doubt he’s gonna address it. Maybe in an sbs idk

[runic dock]

Baby shanks haki split the skies and the emptiness between the clouds spelled his name

[muted hedge]

yeah sure, but a lot of people thought that Garling would have a seperate name for him

[fallen meteor]

Maybe his little sock had Shanks written on it since they were twins and the mother confused them idk

[muted hedge]

i think Shanks and Shamrock had nametags in their onesies

[rich hornet]

It’s normal enough to write the names on baby clothes. It’s necessary for twins

[muted hedge]

i mean what lunatic wouldn't put nametags on, when you have identical twins

[fallen meteor]

Its a thing people do irl

[stone terrace]

It is probably the case

[vestal mural]

Knowing garling he probably burnt the names on their backs the moment they were born

[stone terrace]

Someone will ask in an sbs im sure

[muted hedge]

from the little we saw of Garling this chapter, he doesn't seem to be a terrible dad just a terrible husband

i thought he'd have distaste for Shanks, considering his adventures in the blue-sea

[upbeat yarrow]

maybe the secret about god valley is that their inhabitants, unlike one piece fans, could read and write properly

[runic dock]

So fucking peak

[muted hedge]

but he really just sees it as a tragedy meant to overcome, lol

[prisma yacht]

right

[narrow stratus]

https://x.com/grandlinereview/status/1994589142458712083

Liam Does Things (@GrandLineReview)

A narrative lie is not a retcon. Climbing the red line was an in-world lie to prevent the knowledge of Fisher Tiger being a slave.

X · Nov 29, 2025, 2:08 AM

is GLR cooking?

[prisma yacht]

Yes

[muted hedge]

i do think he did climb the red-line

[somber rivet]

No

[muted hedge]

he just got caught afterwards

[rich hornet]

He was a slave, we knew that

[somber rivet]

The problem is the timeline

Not if he climb it or not

[vestal mural]

I think he means so that people in world wouldn’t know he was

[fallen meteor]

Since we know only the years it can still fit

[tough igloo]

yeah Boa said he climbed it but I guess Oda is now trying to tell us that was a lie lol

[rich hornet]

I understand that, and I thought that had been established already

I haven’t read FMI since 2017 though, it’s so boring

[fallen meteor]

Man how tf does Loki know what happened between FT and Shanks

Oracle ass giant

[rich hornet]

Shanks told him

[fallen meteor]

Its the cloud powers

[vernal ravine]

literally that fisher tiger scene is so good because of the plot twist then people say its retconned

no sense

[muted hedge]

Loki doesn't know, lol

[somber rivet]

Loki has a devil fruit similar to Pudding

[pine ridge]

shanks told gaban, gaban is filling in the gaps

[somber rivet]

And he can see the memories of all

[dense haven]

oda forgor

[fallen meteor]

I know but its funny to pretend he does

[vestal mural]

The only issue with the timeline is why FT had chains and a collar but it says 15 years ago. If oda changes it to 16 then that would mean FT never went back and it all happened when he escaped

[pine ridge]

or that the shanks helped the first time ft escaped and then ft came back later

[somber rivet]

This will make problematic for Shanks

[dense haven]

elbaf must be a hallucination arc

nothing makes sense

[stray prism]

absinthe arc

[tough igloo]

Narrator been took over this flashback a while ago lol

[somber rivet]

Oda should make a Murata and do a full redraw of all Elbaf

[dense haven]

luffy is still tripping balls on the giants ship

[somber rivet]

People gonna love to hate it

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/MuradHossain524/status/1995446427166585285
okay i can see why people say that Shanks glaze is special

YONKO LUFFY (@MuradHossain524)

#ONEPIECE1168
I'm so lucky to be born in the era you walk, and even more grateful to witness a man like you, Shanks.

I thank Oda for creating a soul like yours-

Your name will be written in history,
right beside Luffy's, a man who inspired even Joyboy himself.🔥🐐🙌

X · Dec 1, 2025, 10:54 AM

[rich hornet]

Elbaph is a dream. The SH’s are captured at Egghead. It never ended

[stone terrace]

Fisher tiger having chains tell me this is a retcon of sorts

[warm sierra]

Nahhh

[stone terrace]

Oda might not even realize it

Lol

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/leo-tontatta-one-piece-speech-bubble-gnome-gif-14148504306032946249

[vestal mural]

I thought that might be the case because there’s a time skip panel after FT’s restraints are broken. But the next page makes it seem like it all happened on the same day

[somber rivet]

Someone send a angry email to Oda

[spice cairn]

I mean, doesnt this explain how Tiger was able to liberate the way he did.

If anything it adds a bit more reason for his 2nd attempt.

[upbeat yarrow]

im kinda glad people accepted shamrock's character so quickly, since people were so against of the evil twin theory

[pine ridge]

maybe it was the same day and we simply dont see the second raid

[royal orchid]

the reason one piece is so long is because oda knows when it ends he's done for

[muted hedge]

i feel like Shamrock will end up being the Vergil of Shanks Dante, lol

[upbeat yarrow]

or maybe its just that everything shanks touches turns to hype and gold

[prisma yacht]

Hm could be

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/5FIR.gif

[iron oriole]

His retirement will hit him hard... a shock to the system because of the drastic change in lifestyle

[rich hornet]

I didn’t play it, can you explain in terms of bayonetta

[upbeat yarrow]

thats actually the vibe i got since he got introduced

[dark nymph]

does Oda still sleep 3 hours per day

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/vergil-devil-may-cry-dmc-gif-7804547777400960412

[vestal mural]

If it was the same day that means there is no second raid. The story is changed lol

[stone terrace]

I need to play dmc man

[muted hedge]

just search up DMC lore, i don't want to spoil everything but they're essentialy twins

[muted hedge]

i'm planning on replaying it from DMC 1 again

[vestal mural]

I’m p sure he changed that. He stopped smoking too

[muted hedge]

it's been a while, i usually just go back to DMC 5 lol

[upbeat yarrow]

play 1, 3 or 5

[pseudo gulch]

How does a human function sleeping only 3 hours a day

[stone terrace]

Bro hates even numbers

[narrow stratus]

we need luffy back in the story, people are trying to push their agenda and usurp the MC throne

[prisma yacht]

Lmaoo

[vestal mural]

I used to sleep once every two days a while back because I had so much to do

Also doctors regularly sleep very little

[dense haven]

fuck luffy

[pseudo gulch]

Bro what 😭

[scenic dirge]

Lmao

[pseudo gulch]

Did you sleep for 12 hours every two days

[vestal mural]

Nah like 5 lol

[pseudo gulch]

How are you alive

[vestal mural]

But I also do get episodes of insomnia so….

[prisma yacht]

He said used to

[pseudo gulch]

Yeah and I'm asking how did he survive that

[scenic dirge]

I’m someone who needs 8 hours to function but never actually gets 8 so I’m basically just a useless sack of shit the entire time

[iron oriole]

I sleep like 4 hours every night but thats not really by choice

[vestal mural]

I’ve survived way worse

[iron oriole]

But i get like mini naps throughout the day

[stray prism]

i sleep well nowadays im happy

[pseudo gulch]

Noooooo ahah don't say that about yourself ahah you matter (👀 👀 👀)

[scenic dirge]

Stfu

[vestal mural]

Evan, that’s not nice

Now apologize

[royal orchid]

daily 4 hour sleep + random forced nap into sweaty disgusting wakeup experience every 3 days

[pseudo gulch]

Don't

[pine ridge]

is there something that says there couldnt be a second raid after the one we saw?

[pseudo gulch]

I want a sincere apology

[scenic dirge]

I will never apologize for this plague upon humanity

[pseudo gulch]

Do you have your life

[frozen aspen]

they don't

[spice cairn]

Meeks works here Johto

[royal orchid]

shut the fuck up evan doomposter

[pseudo gulch]

Is that why Oda fell off

[frozen aspen]

yes

[spice cairn]

Oda fell off the chair due to a lack of sleep, yes.

Wow you guys are fucked up im porting this to someone important

[vestal mural]

As far as we have been told there was only one incident like this

[scenic dirge]

He shouldn’t sleep in his chair!

[royal orchid]

I get paid 6 figures

[frozen aspen]

given the quality of his art its obvious

[pseudo gulch]

He's paid to keep the server active

[scenic dirge]

DOUBLE MESSAGE

LAUGH AT THIS IDIOT

[royal orchid]

sound the alarm

[spice cairn]

Meeks is the nail that keeps the server stable

[pseudo gulch]

Laugh at this fucking discord mobile app

[spice cairn]

So we need him hooked into the chat

[pseudo gulch]

Useless piece of crap app I hate it

[scenic dirge]

It makes me cry

Not laugh

[vestal mural]

Dude I fucking hate this app

[pseudo gulch]

Same

[vestal mural]

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-friends-pim-boss-dap-up-dap-gif-8415774257595508216

[pseudo gulch]

Tears of joy

[vestal mural]

I cry tears of joy when I see Evan crying in pain like a little bitch

[dark nymph]

top 5 gifs

[royal orchid]

people who update the mobile app and get even more bugs than me who never updates it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1342244244018040884/1348879623416709120/look_at_this_dude_garp.gif

[spice cairn]

How does Smiling Friends have a better dab up than Garp and Kuzan

We live in a society where we let this happen

[rapid ridge]

Hi Evan

[vestal mural]

Mods. Why isn’t this a sticker yet

[pseudo gulch]

I didn't even update it

[rapid ridge]

I hope you're well!

[pseudo gulch]

Did the Zoro in your pfp take ozempic

[digital spear]

Mods HATE adding new emotes and stickers

[stone terrace]

They really do

[stray prism]

nice pfp

[royal orchid]

is this a reason to slander juba again

[stone terrace]

But i think thats because of the bbwise incident

[rapid ridge]

HOW DARE YOU BELITTLE THE MASTERWORK OF THIGHBREAKER

[vestal mural]

They only add shit like Zeusus

[rapid ridge]

SAY YOU'RE SORRY RIGHT NOW

[pine ridge]

well this could be a more minor incident with less slaves being freed. and then ft came back to free the rest. the second one being the famous incident. cause we were told that fisher tiger escaped once and then later freed more slaves so there were 2 incidents of slaves escaping

[pseudo gulch]

I didn't say anything bad 🧍‍♂️

[scenic dirge]

Hello hildi ❤️ ❤️

[pseudo gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/finger-wag-no-no-no-gif-27552536

[vestal mural]

Perhaps. I’m assuming oda is gonna just explain why FT has chains on. Maybe he just got captured again when he went back and everything we saw this chapter is correct

[pseudo gulch]

Torque para ver o anexo

[vestal mural]

Why must you make me suffer

[digital spear]

ITS NOT THAT BAD

[vestal mural]

The emote looks fine

[digital spear]

Im so tired rn

[vestal mural]

It’s just that I have ptsd from all the spam

It felt so good seeing people cry about me removing it

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/coke-cocaine-don-jr-coke-button-button-gif-3823585341257515503

[pine ridge]

yeah I'm waiting for an sbs or volume release to reserve judgement for now. but I think there are bunch of ways oda can explain or fix it

[digital spear]

good idra bruh

Yogurt cocaine

[royal orchid]

idra? like ida?

[digital spear]

she died from cocaine overdose

[stray prism]

[vestal mural]

Loki this chapter made such a comeback

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/XgInrw/status/1995484786660667739

Ama(あま) (@XgInrw)

ガーリング親子を描きました！
正統派イケメンは本当に苦手です😭ガーリング本当ビジュアルだけは良いんですよね笑
#ONEPIECE #fanart #今週のワンピ

X · Dec 1, 2025, 1:27 PM

[vestal mural]

He was cool before but I didn’t really like him till now

[stone terrace]

I dont like him any more or less but its getting considerably harder to see him turning heel

[muted hedge]

i'm excited to see what legendary power Loki holds

given the build up we've had has felt like years now

[vestal mural]

Do we know if his fruit is the same one xebec was after?

[prisma yacht]

We don't

[muted hedge]

we don't know, but it's pretty safe to assume

[royal orchid]

weak ass man with weak ass genes

[vestal mural]

Darkness fruit comes mind tho

[spice cairn]

His jeans are fine

Hello?

[stone terrace]

If wife strong why one shot

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-brush-comb-gif-16961094

[muted hedge]

yeah, darkness and nika in my opinion

[vestal mural]

Since bb is continuing his fathers dream and he waited for that fruit specifically

[prisma yacht]

Yes Yami Yami is definitely one of them

[royal orchid]

Garling fans be glazing him fatally injuring a civilian 💔

[muted hedge]

has there been anyone glazing Garling for that, lol

[vestal mural]

Garling my goat

[stone terrace]

Several actually but whos keeping count

[digital spear]

Garling

[vestal mural]

His hair routine must be wild

[bold sonnet]

Monkey see monkey do

[prisma yacht]

monkey happi

[digital spear]

monke

[prisma yacht]

repeat

[digital spear]

monke

[prisma yacht]

repeat

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/kthsjuui-kthsjuul-gif-23500358

[stone terrace]

I need more mariejois lore

[stray prism]

[digital spear]

bro is thirsting for him

[dark nymph]

me with loki

[shadow python]

If half bloods like Shanks can be treated as royalty do you think that Shanks has half brothers if relevance?

[grand flower]

Socrates gon plant a bomb in your car if he see this

[royal orchid]

I'm thinking about it too

[grand flower]

@sage temple

[digital spear]

did he really say this

[stone terrace]

I figured shanks had at least ONE sibling even before shamrocks reveal but now that its happened its prob just him

[shadow python]

Maybe Bonney is a Shanks sibling too

[muted hedge]

please no

[royal orchid]

NBA quotes have some crazy shit not even I would post here

[muted hedge]

Bonney's biological father should be a nameless Celestial Dragon

[vestal mural]

What I’m wondering about is why garling chose that random woman to have kids with

Maybe arsal was right about joyboy lineage lol

[royal orchid]

maybe he really just liked her hair color

[dark nymph]

Socrates outputs so much loki glaze that I feel like I rarely have to do it

[latent hamlet]

The mother came onto garling and he's probably like "....well that solves the kids issue"

[vestal mural]

lol

[muted hedge]

it's clear that the mother was special

they remarked her being bright as well as her red hair

there's something deeper to it

[vestal mural]

I guess we have to wait for the shanks fb to find out

[latent hamlet]

She had red hair
That makes her 2% more special than the basic commoner filth

[shadow python]

Do we know any other red heads? I can just think of Kalgara

[muted hedge]

she had the special red hair

[vestal mural]

My GOAT

[muted hedge]

Shamrock, Shanks and their mother is the only ones with the special shading

Eustass Kid who has identical color, doesn't share the same shading even

[shadow python]

But for Red hair to be Shanks' epithet it is probably particularly rare in world

[vestal mural]

Come to think of it, yea I don’t think we’ve seen anyone with that exact hair color other than those 3

[shadow python]

Though I'm sure at least one of big moms children has Red hair

[royal orchid]

isn't there a whole thing about shanks/shamrock/their mom's hair color being the only one shaded a certain way in the manga

[muted hedge]

yeah

[stone terrace]

Its such a meme that people have theorized that kidd went after shanks because he was a redhead too but got special treatment

[vestal mural]

Wait what

[pine ridge]

yes

[stone terrace]

It def is a bit strange that people refer to him like that

Like his iconography is actually leaning towards his scar more

His jolly roger

[grand flower]

Yea

[royal orchid]

they're the only 3 characters in the show that have gray shaded hair

instead of white or black

[grand flower]

Theyre the only ones with gray scale

[muted hedge]

the only three with this shading

[vestal mural]

We’re either reading into this too much or cooking big time

[vestal mural]

Oh

[shadow python]

His flag being the BB scar infers that he didn't have a crew before he lost to BB

[vestal mural]

In the entire story?

[muted hedge]

i definitely think it's meant to be looked into considering that everyone who bears this iconic red hair, is related to Shanks, who we also know is very special

[shadow python]

So what was he doing since Roger's execution before he went to be a noble?

[muted hedge]

heck, his whole title is about being a red-haired

[stone terrace]

I think he at least met a few like beck but didnt really officially start the crew

[grand flower]

You’re def not

[runic dock]

You right about the hair shading

[stone terrace]

Just like rocks

[grand flower]

Theyre also the only characters who other characters mention the red hair of

[runic dock]

For hair specifically Oda only uses that grey for shanks hair color

[vestal heath]

It’s snowing like hell over here it reminds me of drum island

[grand flower]

It’s distinct enough that people identify shanks with it

He’s “Red Hair”

[royal orchid]

pretty sure but I'm not checking 1166 chapters again

[grand flower]

It def stands out in universe as much as it does to us

[runic dock]

They don’t call Nami the red hair witch for example

She’s clearly ginger

[muted hedge]

Oda is definitely doing it with intention

[grand flower]

They never talk about any other shades of red

[royal orchid]

if joyboy is revealed and he has gray shaded hair in the manga I'll probably laugh so hard

[muted hedge]

he wants us to pay attention to it

[runic dock]

Yeah

[grand flower]

Kalgara, Kid, ichiji

[grand flower]

Exactly

[stone terrace]

Ill be happy for arsal

[grand flower]

They talked to me like I was nuts for saying this like two days ago lol

[runic dock]

That’s how it always is in here you can catch the server on an off hour

[vestal mural]

Yea pretty sure it was like 3 years after the time in this chapter with the bandages until he went out to seek yassop. I have no idea what he did in between Roger’s death and this tho.

[muted hedge]

i wouldnt' doubt it at this point, lol

[runic dock]

Where it feels like you entered opposite ville

[muted hedge]

it would certainly explain the 'child of destiny' stuff

[shadow python]

Why is nami called cat burglar? Did the govt. Know about her working for Arlong and stealing from pirates? I probably would have mentioned her weather manipulation you know the thing that she publicly used on enies lobby to beat one of the cipher Pol agents?

[vestal mural]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-they-called-me-a-madman-infinity-war-madman-gif-13990981

[stone terrace]

Morgans got dudes everywhere

[runic dock]

She was cat burglar before because even amongst arlongs crew she had that reputation

Or was this rhetorical lol

[muted hedge]

she was a notorious thief

[vestal mural]

Morgans did sanji so dirty with his first poster lmao

One of the funniest reveals in fiction

[final trench]

Shanksboy

This is why bb is related to davy

[stone terrace]

The anime did that scene so well lol

[runic dock]

Wait why would he?

What’s this about

[final trench]

Joyboy has red hair

[fallen meteor]

Shanks red hair

[final trench]

And davy jones has blue hair

Like rocks

[muted hedge]

it would explain the 'child of destiny' stuff

[vestal mural]

Some people are saying shanks’ mom is a descendant from joy boy

[runic dock]

Where?

[pine ridge]

same reason zoro is still called the pirate hunter. they just dont matter beyond them being unique

[stone terrace]

It makes shanks a joyboy descendent

[fallen meteor]

That's the proposition

[final trench]

Indeed

[stone terrace]

Rokaya might explode

[fallen meteor]

If

[muted hedge]

Shanks and Shamrock, Joyboys descendant. Blackbeard, Davy's descendant.

[shadow python]

Red mom was in God valley which we know to be the hideout of several Davy members

[runic dock]

I see

[royal orchid]

the ultimate shanks glaze

[final trench]

Also true

[fallen meteor]

Red Mom

[runic dock]

Alright Oda would do this true

[vestal mural]

Omg I never thought about that

[fallen meteor]

Lmao

[final trench]

Oda cant help himself

[runic dock]

I believe it now

[shadow python]

It's possible that Shanks and by extension Shamrock are part Davy

[pine ridge]

and luffy related to neither but carries the wills of both

[runic dock]

He can’t help glaze shanks it’s gonna happen

[muted hedge]

yeah, lol

[distant vine]

Calling her Red Mom is very funny

[runic dock]

Lady akagami

[stone terrace]

Akamami

[fallen meteor]

Every single ancient family is all the same one

[vestal mural]

Alamami is hilarious

[fallen meteor]

Akamami

[royal orchid]

might just be what Garling said to her

[muted hedge]

what voice actor did Shanks have when he was younger in the flashbacks?

[distant vine]

I wonder who will voice Joyboy in the dub

[haughty oracle]

Shanks is a fraud

[distant vine]

Clinkenbeard is the only English Luffy VA afaik

[stone terrace]

Elaborate.

[distant vine]

Yawn

[muted hedge]

okay nevermind lol, young Shanks sounds nothing like Joyboy did

[pine ridge]

true

[shadow python]

Assuming Roger was never an emperor it is only fairly recently that the Ds rules the seas

[muted hedge]

thanks

[alpine trench]

This is the dub

[haughty oracle]

He's hiding behind the gorosei and is just a coward with no actual feats

Rat haired shanks

[royal orchid]

he did Kite

[sly belfry]

Me

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-speed-trying-not-to-laugh-speed-laugh-nod-gif-8556127097862600742

[pine ridge]

true

[royal orchid]

his bday is tomorrow actually

[fallen meteor]

Oh wow

[stone terrace]

Today in japan

[vestal mural]

0/10 rage bait

[fallen meteor]

Happy birthday shanks voice man

[stone terrace]

What a coincidence

[haughty oracle]

He squeaks fyi

[stone terrace]

But bro is getting old i dont think hes making it

[pine ridge]

true

[shadow python]

But now we have Marshall D Teech, Buggy D Clown, monkey d Luffy, and Shanks D Rat as the 4 emperors with Blackbeard and potentially Red hair having Davy ancestry with Luffy and Buggy being linked with joy boy

[fallen meteor]

I liked the rat memes but oda killed it so hard its sad

[tough igloo]

true the OG emperors had no D clan members but full of rocks pirates & now current emperors got 2 with one being the son of rocks

[haughty oracle]

Most of the voice actors ain't making it 😭

[ashen perch]

oh Break Next Week has been confirmed

[muted hedge]

nightmare fuel

[ashen perch]

gonna be a rough couple of months

[haughty oracle]

Yeah

[stone terrace]

Its just normal schedule is it not

This is chap #3

[ashen perch]

I was kinda hoping we didnt because these two months always suck

its gonna be break, chapter, break, chapter, break

I am pretty sure

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/speechless-smoking-man-old-man-smoking-old-guy-smoking-old-man-cigarette-gif-16836230630449212567

at least there's chapter this week?

[ashen perch]

yea

[vestal mural]

Yea worst part of the year

[prisma yacht]

[stone terrace]

Wait what the fuck nagamine died in august???

And they only reported it months later

[vestal mural]

I need like 5 more chapters rn man

Who’s that

[stone terrace]

The previous anime director

[vestal mural]

Oh rip

[tough igloo]

since it’s a break next week maybe this chapter ends with Loki & Jarul arriving to the castle for Harald

[ashen perch]

1168
Break
1169
Break
1170
Break
1171
Break
1172 and onwards normal schedule

I believe its gonna be something like that

[vestal mural]

Yiiiiiiikes

[runic dock]

Rip , maybe they wanted to keep it private for a while

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/game-of-thrones-gif-3374421011117773703

[ashen perch]

yeah they did

[royal orchid]

biweekly piece I'm sinking all of japan

https://tenor.com/view/lulusia-destroy-gif-13857056240706324027

[runic dock]

I’m sinking Hawaii because it was close

[stone terrace]

I hope oda uses this extra break time wisely to make sure all of the art is extra crisp instead of doing useless things like relaxing and spending time with family

[brittle basin]

Chapter week. Live, Ida, live.

[ashen perch]

I hope he rereads the series

thats what he needs right now

[royal orchid]

bro thinks oda should get rest lmao

[runic dock]

He knows his own series I think fans need to reread the series this coming break

[ashen perch]

he doesnt know anymore, its over

Oda is old

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/stan-twt-reaction-meme-funny-begging-crying-gif-11151243012681431164

[ashen perch]

Olda as some might put it

[stone terrace]

Why dont we just consolidate all of these breaks into a break month

[frozen aspen]

ida is dead as hell

[runic dock]

Muh fisher tiger!

[ashen perch]

Olda is washed and he needs a reread

[royal orchid]

MONTHLY PIECE LET'S GOOOOOO

Drawn by Murata as well

[rapid ridge]

Is this what you call Oda now ?

[royal orchid]

[rapid ridge]

So disrespectful

[ashen perch]

yeah thats what I am calling him

[distant vine]

St. Shanks is so funny cause people genuinely thought he would turncoat and behave like this

[ashen perch]

twice my age

it makes sense

he is at level 50, he is Olda

[barren token]

wait is thgere a break after 1167? please remember your answer will decide if I end it all

[distant vine]

No

[olive sigil]

I hope oda spends his break weeks thinking about what he just did

[royal orchid]

even Harald saw his ass and he's being goofed around by the world government

[ashen perch]

nah, break after 1168 though

[rapid ridge]

Oh yeah?

[runic dock]

We will all be olda someday

[rapid ridge]

ARSAL WISE? MORE LIKE BABY WIPES

AM I RIGHT FELLAS?

[ashen perch]

woah

[frozen aspen]

ur making a lot of assumptions rn

[alpine trench]

YES HILDI

[brittle basin]

there's a break this week and next

[ashen perch]

thats so rude

[alpine trench]

YOU'RE RIGHT

[royal orchid]

assal wipe

[ashen perch]

Hildi more like uh

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/gdfactory-gif-4334314380426407987

[barren token]

I wish breaks were dead forever

[ashen perch]

Hildi more like Guilty, of being mean

and rude

[royal orchid]

I wish every mangaka was forced to work weekly chapters forever

[royal orchid]

Hildi more like Hildeous

[ashen perch]

I wish monthly schedules for every single weekly mangaka out there

every single one of them

none of them deserve the weekly hell

[vestal mural]

Bro if op was monthly it would have been hell

Imagine spending a month discussing the same thing

[ashen perch]

nah I think people would just get used to it

[leaden rivet]

Monthly is like one 30 page chapter right

Yeah

[runic dock]

Okay my bad some may die early

Is that better?

[leaden rivet]

People get used to it rather quickly

[ashen perch]

4 months of monthly and you are not gonna even notice it

[leaden rivet]

But for op it may take a bit

[vestal mural]

I think it’s more

[frozen aspen]

just read smth else

[frozen aspen]

yeah

[leaden rivet]

I think one piece would be better r biweekly rather than monthly

[stone terrace]

Meh it would tank the experience for me

[frozen aspen]

im giving most of you 5 years

[upbeat yarrow]

i dont wish every mangaka was forced to weekly

i HOPE they are forced to work weekly

[vestal mural]

I only read op

[ashen perch]

monthly would be around 40-ish pages

[royal orchid]

witch hat atelier discord is usually dead for half the time between chapter releases

[rapid ridge]

Guilty of being handsome and cool

[runic dock]

Fantastic

[ashen perch]

mean too smh

[prisma yacht]

I'm not surviving if op goes monthly 🙏

[stone terrace]

Id probably just read op once every few months

[vestal mural]

Yea because I’m gonna drop it like I did with jojolands

[frozen aspen]

thats sad, there is alot of good stuff you are missing out on

[rapid ridge]

I read witch hat makers too!!

[fallen meteor]

Oh fuck I forgot jojolands

[ashen perch]

it will be worth it, for the art and the quality in general

[vestal mural]

I wasn’t being serious lmao

[frozen aspen]

damn

[runic dock]

I don’t care if op goes on breaks constantly I still have kagurabachi

[leaden rivet]

I have a strange feeling the art and quality won’t get better much lol

[ashen perch]

Oda is struggling, we need to accept it. Olda is Old, and he needs to relax

[leaden rivet]

It just gives oda a lot more days where he doesn’t have to do things

[vestal mural]

How old is oda now

[fallen meteor]

50

[ashen perch]

this Fisher Tiger mistake is just ONE of like 50 mistakes he has made this year

[fallen meteor]

51? Maybe

[ashen perch]

worst year for mistakes in the series

[runic dock]

With line art , yes I agree

[leaden rivet]

Boruto which is monthly doesn’t have particularly better art

[ashen perch]

he is 50, 51 in January

[runic dock]

Bro remembered the Florian triangle tho

[leaden rivet]

What fisher tiger mistake

[atomic spindle]

Break next week?

[ashen perch]

the timeline, he got it wrong

[frozen aspen]

yeah

[leaden rivet]

Elaborate

[brittle basin]

Oda's inking reminds me of someone either trying to hurry or so confident in their inking they freeball half of it with their underlying sketches being looser than ever before.

[olive sigil]

Ruining his achievement

[ashen perch]

I mean this too yea

[rapid ridge]

Oh hi Earl

[vestal mural]

There has to be some explanation for the fisher tiger I refuse to believe none of his assistants or editors couldn’t catch it. It’s such a big deal

[leaden rivet]

Well the Mary sue gets everything so that’s not surprising. I’m just curious how the timeline is wrong.

[willow pollen]

What’s the thing

[royal orchid]

he's not supposed to have chains on himself in the shanks flashback, he was a slave a year before that

[brittle basin]

he was clicking various Japan wiki links until he found something he remembered

[runic dock]

According to fans assumptions regarding the discussion around fisher tiger I think even the people who brought up the point can’t figure out what they’re trying to say with it

[leaden rivet]

I see

[ashen perch]

eh, he made that mistake with Roger at the end of the Egghead too. Had VP mention that he died 25 years ago instead of 24

[vestal mural]

Have you been living under a rock

[leaden rivet]

That’s not that big of a mistake

[runic dock]

People bring up two points of confusion

When it’s just like 1

[rapid ridge]

Actually I.do, please tell me what's the thing

[ashen perch]

he is just old

[leaden rivet]

Oda is simply changing the timeline, keep up Arsal

[stone terrace]

Its not something that can just be fixed by removing chains

[thick mango]

Isn't it possible the previous story was just a convenient heroic legend

[urban lodge]

Always blame the JJK editor

[willow pollen]

Is it that he has chains he might have just gotten captured again

[fallen meteor]

I was thinking this

[brittle basin]

they could all by yes men. or not know as much about the series as one would hope. it is gigantic after all. looks like we're gonna have to send Tekking to Oda's office to keep an eye on his manuscripts

[vestal mural]

This is more serious tho. He drew him as a slave here. It’s not just the timeline thing, but he forgot fisher went back lol

[ashen perch]

oh yeah it for sure is

[willow pollen]

Or he just got captured again??

[ashen perch]

just saying that these mistakes keep on happening lately

[willow pollen]

Maybe that’s how he snuck in

[runic dock]

Or he just got captured again

[ashen perch]

and they dont get noticed by anybody

[brittle basin]

i didn't remember that time discrepency with Fisher until someone on reddit pointed it out. i doubt most here remembered too

[vestal mural]

Yea that’s what I’m thinking the cop out is gonna be

[royal orchid]

what if oda actually just tricked us with fishman propaganda

[ashen perch]

its a rough schedule, they are all barely making it to the finish lines

[olive sigil]

What does his editor do

[ashen perch]

they dont have time to look at the chapter again

[bold sonnet]

He returned to fmi 16 years ago

[brittle basin]

Oda is speeding towards the finish line. that's it

[hazy turret]

The wiki has failed Oda

[brittle basin]

he's in a rush

[willow pollen]

What if fisher tiger lied about being a slave so people feel bad for him

[brittle basin]

!wokereader in shambles

[tropic nova]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/527128641096908803/621744554995089436/Screenshot_20190912-183027.jpg?width=800&height=153

[vestal mural]

I wish oda could take like a 6 month vacation then come back

[runic dock]

If you can explain it some other way like that then it’s not as serious as we might think idk , maybe that’s what Oda had in mind , maybe this is overanalyzing

[rapid ridge]

Actually, I didn't notice any discrepancy therefore there isn't any

[ashen perch]

eh nothing much lol

[fallen meteor]

True

[royal orchid]

oda's editors fuck up the manga

[rapid ridge]

I'm. Not going to listen to ypu Debbie downers

[thick mango]

It's true the discrepancy only exists if you choose to see it

[vestal mural]

All it needed was just one line saying “he got captured again” and none of this would be an issue

[runic dock]

They can influence certain story decisions

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-electric-chair-electrocution-bart-shock-gif-5001497

[stone terrace]

Editors are really just there to make sure oda doesnt insert something that jump wont allow

[ashen perch]

its a big discrepancy once you notice it, doesnt really matter if people didnt immediately notice it

[stone terrace]

[thick mango]

Is it though

[ashen perch]

its the kind of thing that I understand why the editor didnt immediately notice it

[leaden rivet]

I would’ve never noticed and I don’t think it’s a big deal

[willow pollen]

Guys he just got captured again to sneak into Mary Jonas it’s not that hard

[fallen meteor]

Even if it is a mistake oda can just spin it to be a way in and thats it

[willow pollen]

Also known as ms Jonas

[ashen perch]

I mean again, people not noticing it immediately is whatever, I understand

[olive sigil]

They should have someone checking the accuracy of details. How do so many mistakes happen. Unless this is already a corrected version and things are much worse than this

[thick mango]

Or his legend is a heroic lie

[ashen perch]

just saying it doesnt make it any less of an issue

[royal orchid]

remember when people were theorizing that was why the ginny death chapter was unfinished?

something like "because oda kept having to remake the story from how dark it originally was"

[fallen meteor]

That one looked cool so we are ok with it

[willow pollen]

No it’s because odas tears made it too hard to draw

Guys

[royal orchid]

I liked the unfinished version 🗣️

[ashen perch]

and this is just not true lol, people have been trying to push this idea but its not true

[willow pollen]

There’s a very simple source of all this

It’s the one piece live action

[ashen perch]

Jinbe mentions the same story directly to the SHs

[willow pollen]

We should vote to have it cancelled

[fallen meteor]

True

[leaden rivet]

Was Jinbei there

[fallen meteor]

The source of evil is opla

[ashen perch]

he knows the truth

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/netflix-mihawk-gif-16017751859179581136

[willow pollen]

Jinbe made up his backstory so the strawhats feel bad for him

[bold sonnet]

Why would Jinbei lie only to tell the truth seconds later lol

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-live-action-one-piece-netflix-luffy-slap-koby-koby-koby-one-piece-gif-5172002183494563816

[stone terrace]

The heroic tale being a lie doesnt reconcile the timeline discrepancy

The real way out of the hole is just saying he did indeed get captured again on purpose

[leaden rivet]

Ask him

[ashen perch]

Jinbe knew the truth, it doesnt matter if he wasnt there

[bold sonnet]

@spare depot true?

[ashen perch]

but like icon said, even thats not fixing the timeline discrepancy anyways

[thick mango]

why? For starters only tiger would really know and secondly all the initial people would be incentivized to lie and make the story as heroic as possible

[brittle basin]

That's exactly what he's gonna say in the SBS. simply because there's nothing to gain from a retcon and Oda has definitely given answers akin to this before when readers have found issues and pointed them out in the SBS. this ain't the first mistake Oda has made, not by a long shot.

[vestal mural]

Arsal did you see what GLR said about this timeline thing? The narrative lie bit

[ashen perch]

during FMI, we saw Fisher Tiger return to FMI 16 years ago and get celebrated as just the cool leader of the Fishman District, as he tells his people that he has business with Neptune and Otohime

this is the conversation that you all may have seen, where he says "I am gonna free the slaves"

[willow pollen]

Ok and

[bold sonnet]

Fisher tiger comes back to fmi 16 years ago.
His first order of business was to go and visit Neptune
Otohime comments about the sadness in his heart or something

[ashen perch]

yeah I have seen it Mip, its bs

but yea, 16 years ago, he tells Neptune and Otohime that he is gonna free the slaves. This is after he had just escaped from Marie Geoise from years of slavery. He returns to Marie Geoise as a free man, climbing up the redline and attacking Marie Geoise to free all the slaves

[bold sonnet]

And a year later, news broke out that he attacked mariejois
And we see Neptune's reaction
And he goes on to form the sun pirates

[thick mango]

do we actually know the second half of this is true though

[ashen perch]

the only part we dont know for sure is him climbing up the redline

[willow pollen]

Bruh he did NOT climb the red line 😭 😭 😭

[ashen perch]

but the rest is true

Jinbe did say that he climbed the redline

I think its weird to say that he lied

[thick mango]

so why is it impossibe he either got captured accidently or on purpose

[willow pollen]

climb red line
capturdd
escape

[brittle basin]

and it's gonna stay that way. a simple sbs answer will correct it all.

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/uta-uta-one-piece-one-piece-one-piece-film-red-halloween-gif-27014214

[thick mango]

its crazy to me you cant imagine jinbe would lie about the heroic legend of his dead friend

[ashen perch]

yes

I think its disgusting if Oda pulls this twist even

[brittle basin]

actually, i'm gonna turn on the latest Tekking so I can determine the correct opinion to have about Fisher Tiger

[thick mango]

id lie in jinbe's position

who does it hurt?

[shadow python]

Jinbabe is the reason we know about Tiger being a slave in the first place. He's the one who told the story of the truth

[stone terrace]

A wise king has wiser advisors

[ashen perch]

why would Jinbe lie in that position???

[shadow python]

There's no reason for him to lie about Tiger. If he says he climbed the red line he climbed it

[ashen perch]

genuinely, what purpose does it serve to lie to the SHs

[distant vine]

Oh if Jinbe said it then I'll treat it as fact.

[proud pivot]

Imagine you're just a normal person with mountain climbing hobby and you climb the red line but a bunch of fatasses capture you and force you to be their slave

[distant vine]

I didnt know that

[pine ridge]

to make them feel bad

[thick mango]

cause its a better more heroic story

that serves a good cause

[distant vine]

Ok then, he climbed the Red Line and either got captured or disguised himself

[shadow python]

But I don't recall Jinbabe mentioning tiger climbing the red line I thought it was Boa

[royal orchid]

maybe jimbe was just spreading fishman propaganda

[ashen perch]

I think Oda can explain it away in a SBS yeah, with that sort of explanation

that he climbed up the redline, while disguised as a slave

[stoic roost]

[dawn gazelle]

No hints yet??

[ashen perch]

this is why he didnt have an exploding collar, because its a regular one that he was wearing on purpose

no, be patient

[bold sonnet]

Honestly, I am on board with either way since it doesn't take away from his achievements.

[ashen perch]

I think the pieces can fall in place. And maybe Oda did that on purpose too.

[bold sonnet]

[dawn gazelle]

🥲 well what else to do.

[brittle basin]

no, and you'll want to ask that in #manga they will be more on the ball with that question

[distant vine]

Captured twice is redundant so I like the latter more

[ashen perch]

btw, Greg, fwiw, said that he talked with production and they acknowledged its a mistake, a plothole

[shadow python]

Shanks kinda takes away from his achievement

[tough igloo]

it was

[ashen perch]

he said some other things but its kind of difficult to figure out what he was talking about

[distant vine]

This FT and Shanks thing?

[ashen perch]

yea

he was being pretty vague lol

[frigid gulch]

Oda and the editors are washed

[distant vine]

Loda? 😢

[ashen perch]

Olda

[thick mango]

I dunno i think this is kinda a fan L

just move along enjoy the ride type shit. yknow.

[stone terrace]

The coauthor admitted it?

GG

[ashen perch]

he did

[rapid ridge]

The Greg?

[pine ridge]

source?

[ashen perch]

THE greg

1s

[distant vine]

Its okay to discuss and critique things

[rapid ridge]

!coauthor

[brittle basin]

I'm Greg. I didn't say that.

[distant vine]

We dont have to sweep it under the rug

[stoic roost]

I can imagine fisher tiger lying to not show how weak he was when he got captured

[rapid ridge]

They took it

[ashen perch]

https://x.com/ochimusha108/status/1995371504855646341?s=20

Greg (@ochimusha108)

@FreeDWorld56 That aside, I've been in touch with production and they confirmed both my interpretation and that it's an error. It can be fixed. It *can* be how you described. And it might be edited to be that way. But as it stands, it cannot.

X · Dec 1, 2025, 5:56 AM

[thick mango]

sure im not saying you cant im saying it might be counter productive to you having an enjoyable time for questionable benefit

[stoic roost]

He wouldn't accept human blood, why tell the full truth if the narrative of lying is better for fishmen

[brittle basin]

I hope Arsal takes his hatred of this Fisher Tiger detail to his grave

[stone terrace]

Greg actually does have connections so

[brittle basin]

he will never forget it even if corrected

[stone terrace]

I think that puts it to bed

But yeah it can be fixed

[brittle basin]

Is Greg what Sandman wishes he was?

[stone terrace]

But we're watching you poda

https://tenor.com/view/watching-you-observe-seeing-i-saw-you-gif-5740825

[ashen perch]

he is lol

Sandman has no connections to anyone

he is just a superfan

[distant vine]

Anything for our baby boy

https://tenor.com/view/shanks-laugh-shanks-laugh-one-piece-saajster-gif-19793182

[brittle basin]

classic Landman

[ashen perch]

Greg atleast has connections

[rapid ridge]

Read: stalker

[ashen perch]

yea

[tough igloo]

so is Greg saying that it is a plot hole ?

[brittle basin]

Is Greg based in Japan?

[ashen perch]

but yea, even he is not fully sure how they are going to fix it, but it is a mistake no doubt

yea

[stone terrace]

He is the final evolution of a weeb

[deep chasm]

Loda

[ashen perch]

he is the white man in kimono meme

[rapid ridge]

I belive this actually

[bold sonnet]

I blame shanks

Oda couldnt help it but give the W to his golden child

[vestal mural]

Wait fix what

[bold sonnet]

[ashen perch]

the timeline discrepancy with Fisher Tiger

[vestal mural]

Ah

[runic dock]

I agree , but it might be the nature of needing it to be weekly , that’s putting pressure on making the art AND story because a chapter HAS to come out by this certain time , but I guess that’s why they gave Oda breaks lol his sleep schedule was truly creating a shorter lifespan for him

[vestal mural]

Wait Greg commented on that?

[tough igloo]

lol true we all know how Oda is with Shanks

[ashen perch]

https://x.com/ochimusha108/status/1995291465933885715?s=20

Greg (@ochimusha108)

Interesting discovery about Fisher Tiger. It's a plot-hole so like, that sucks and all, but nonetheless it reveals a part of his story that majority seem to have assumed was true but never was. Boa's age, FT's Vivre Card, and unfortunate planning in the FMI FB contribute to it.

X · Dec 1, 2025, 12:38 AM

yeah this is his post on it

[vestal mural]

Ahhh

[tough igloo]

that’s why i’m shocked that some Loki fans actually expect Loki to put up a fight vs Shanks lol not as long as Oda is writing it 🤣

[distant vine]

I dont think Loki will get one shot

[stone terrace]

It being a flashback really hurts loki

Oda wont want to spend much time

[deep chasm]

wym

[tough igloo]

i’m not putting anything past Oda lol best case scenario is that it gets off screened and we just see the aftermath lol

[stone terrace]

Its a lot more likely oda just gets it done in one shot because he doesnt like drawing out fights in fbs

[ashen perch]

also he didnt know about the Hachinosu thing lol

[vestal mural]

Can’t wait for the volume release to see how they fix this

[ashen perch]

but glad its been communicated to him atleast

[deep chasm]

ah I see what you mean

[ashen perch]

curious to see how they find a fix for that

because that one is harder than this

they might have to just delete the scene lmao

[runic dock]

What does he mean by that

[brittle basin]

"harmful" we need to teach twitter folk that words have meaning.

[narrow stratus]

I think it's not just a timeline discrepancy, it's a complete plot retcon.
Fisher Tiger helped Boa when he climbed the red line 15 years ago.
Fisher Tiger escaped slavery and left the holy land 16 years ago, at that event he didn't free any slaves (certainly not boa).

In this chapter, Oda is suggesting both events happened at the same point, which is just not possible, hence it is a plot hole.

[barren token]

Kaido in that scene

[minor sky]

no hints yet meaning it must be mihawk gas

[ashen perch]

pretty good at covering up these mistakes, I assume earl

[vestal mural]

Kaido thing is an easy fix

[runic dock]

This was a thing? Didn’t even notice

[vestal mural]

Just some whiteout

[ashen perch]

yeah I just call it a tl discrepancy but its definitely a straight up plothole lol

well Kaido has to be there

he gets kicked by Xebec

[vestal mural]

Honestly just add a line saying he got captured or larping

[ashen perch]

yknow maybe they just go back to volume 105 or whatever

and change THAT in the new reprints

[stone terrace]

This one can be filled luckily lol

I do think oda does a good job of being vague enough to avoid doing permanent damage

[ashen perch]

but its just funny, Oda just thought it was a cool thing for Xebec to do

just forgot how the TL went for hype moments smh

[narrow stratus]

how is the kaido rocks thing a TL issue?

[rapid ridge]

How bad of a retcon wód be tho?

[bold sonnet]

Skull eyes

[rapid ridge]

Would it be

[ashen perch]

Hachinosu has its skull eyes already when Kaido arrives there for the first time

[brittle basin]

wod

[ashen perch]

before he even joins

[stone terrace]

I mean does it have serious plot implications? Not really

[brittle basin]

no

[stone terrace]

But its kind of just a glaring inconsistency

[brittle basin]

it's a harmless mistake

[rapid ridge]

I wouldn't say it's glaring

[runic dock]

Oda literally can fill it with one sentence in an sbs saying oh yeah he got captured both times

[ashen perch]

it doesnt but its still odd, and something I am sure they will try to fix somehow

[rapid ridge]

I didnt even remember that fisher went back there

It's not rally that important

[stone terrace]

The rock has a face i think im being quite literal here

[brittle basin]

most didn't

[stone terrace]

[brittle basin]

these mistakes only catch on 'cause of the internet

[ashen perch]

okay that is important though, because its a significant part of Fisher Tiger's entire backstory

[stone terrace]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/onepiece/images/9/94/Hachinosu_Rock_Eyes.png/revision/latest?cb=20250803151634

[brittle basin]

i'm confident over 75% would've missed the Fisher Tiger detail without reddit/twitter/youtube

[runic dock]

It doesn’t have a reverberating effect like a butterfly effect on other things around the same time tho

[brittle basin]

it's a mistake that should be corrected nonetheless

[runic dock]

That’s why it’s not serious people are saying

[stone terrace]

I am kind of bad at keeping track of timelines by myself

[brittle basin]

and knowing how much Oda loves his baby One Piece, he will fix it or come up with an excuse

[ashen perch]

doesnt really matter though, I mean its still signficant to that arc

[bold sonnet]

Same

[runic dock]

The point people are making is it doesn’t affect other things around it

If it did that’s a lot more severe

If it’s starts fucking up other plots

[brittle basin]

i have asked someone to make this a booba emote but only i see the vision

[ashen perch]

He spent years in slavery, somehow escaped it, was so disgusted by it that he went back where he spent the worst years of his life to free the slaves. Thats incredible stuff. It was really touching back when I read it.

I dont mind that Shanks helped

[runic dock]

I think that core concept is still maintained

[ashen perch]

but messing with the rest is hurting it

[brittle basin]

he still saved people in this version, it's just the timeline is screwy

[narrow stratus]

the change to fisher tiger's story is annoying in the sense that how the fuck did it pass through editing

[brittle basin]

personally i'd remove the Shanks helping. go die in a ditch shanks

[ashen perch]

he did save people, but he didnt do it after he earned his freedom already

[runic dock]

If it’s not affecting other plots like a bad poison it’s not as serious as it can be

[ashen perch]

yeah I am just saying that I dont care about that

I care about what it does for his story specifically

[barren token]

Its definitely serious enough to correct, and the correction isn't that hard to do

[runic dock]

I agree there tho , it’s something easily solved with a line

[ashen perch]

it doesnt have to be some cataclysmic mistake for me to still care

[brittle basin]

Does any editor or anyone surrounding Oda have some god-tier knowledge of OP to catch mistakes like this? it's probably just hard to catch in a series this massive

[stone terrace]

I think an editor has a responsibility to do their due diligence

[runic dock]

Tekking

[ashen perch]

They do catch 99% of the mistakes when they are reviewing the chapters for the volumes

[stone terrace]

If you have to have read the entire series before, so be it

[brittle basin]

but does any editor have that knowledge is the question?

[ashen perch]

but weekly that kind of thing is just

[narrow stratus]

i am sure they have to reference the fisher tiger flashback if they are editing this flashback

[stone terrace]

Part of the job

[ashen perch]

difficult I imagine

[hazy turret]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-boss-mr-boss-gun-mr-boss-smiling-friends-smiling-friends-mr-boss-angry-gif-7442105350866946345

[narrow stratus]

not even the entire series, just reference the fisher tiger chapters lol

[brittle basin]

i'm just trying to imagine the insane level of memory you would have to have to keep up with every possible OP mistake.

[ashen perch]

you have the author barely making it to his deadlines, you have the editor also working on a short deadline, you have the publishing team also working on a brief deadline

[brittle basin]

it doesn't sound possible to me

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jackson-gun-gif-reverse-michael-jackson-gun-gif-michael-jackson-aim-gun-reverse-michael-jackson-aim-gun-gif-14571008092837303257

[runic dock]

Better to start from chapter 1 just in case

[ashen perch]

theres just very little opportunity for review there, and mistakes slip in all the time

[narrow stratus]

thats what AI is for

[ashen perch]

like again, I mentioned it before, the Roger thing

[barren token]

It is hard, that's why there's us, the final quality control before the volume is released

[runic dock]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-gif-4961456348134506326

[ashen perch]

Oda has written it so many times, but he still messed up the year where he is supposed to have died in

and no editor noticed it either

that kind of thing just happens

[narrow stratus]

i wonder if ai can be used in this use case

[brittle basin]

yeah this for sure isn't helping. and Oda keeps adding stuff. now he has three levels of allegiance to Imu he just included in this recent chapter. a small detail, but just one more thing to keep track of, with an accompanying tattoo.

[hazy turret]

My trust in Oda is forever shattered, I can’t believe Goda would make a mistake like this. Is One Piece doomed?!

[barren token]

Oda needs to spend more time on the wiki

[ashen perch]

well he makes mistakes all the time but

whats concerning this time is the frequency of it

[brittle basin]

Oh, god.....

[runic dock]

Yes give up now while there is still time

One piece needs less fans

[barren token]

You can tell oda caught up on one piece by reading the manga. If he read the wiki he wouldn't be making these mistakes

[ashen perch]

I dont think theres been a year where Oda has made as many mistakes as he has this year

Olda has truly taken over

[bold sonnet]

😭

[brittle basin]

i will never forget absinthe, you can't make this shit up.

[runic dock]

If he read the wiki we’d be living in a world where dragon doesn’t have CoC

And we all know that’s just not true

[ashen perch]

mistakes so absurd that it had us thinking that there had to be something to it

[hazy turret]

What about the year big mom lost?

[ashen perch]

2021?

[barren token]

Dementiabros won that day

[narrow stratus]

absinthe was this year right?

[brittle basin]

or last

[barren token]

Last year I think

[ashen perch]

absinthe was like december

[barren token]

Late last year early this year

[ashen perch]

but its a year back from now, same thing

[runic dock]

Absinthe was foreshadow to the fisher tiger thing

[rich hornet]

I can’t believe Oda doesn’t have a personal wiki to compile his lore notes. World anvil exists

[ashen perch]

its all analog

he has these massive piles of notebooks

[runic dock]

He has notebooks lmao

[brittle basin]

by this time next year, Elbaf will be over

[barren token]

You have to remember one piece is written by a 50 year who gets 4 hours of sleep Max we're lucky he isn't giving sanji a hammer and thinking that's always been how he fights

[rich hornet]

Hire an assistant to make it digital

[brittle basin]

Oda, give Sanji hammer legs so he can say "stop. hammer time!" when he fights

[frozen aspen]

https://twitter.com/seiyuucorner/status/1995508938591424848

Seiyuu Corner (@seiyuucorner)

Happy 76th birthday Shuichi Ikeda! 🎉

#ShuichiIkeda #池田秀一 #池田秀一生誕祭2025

X · Dec 1, 2025, 3:03 PM

[ashen perch]

when Kureha shows up next chapter and she is inexplicably 30 years younger because Oda forgot how old she is

[frozen aspen]

damn he old as hell

[brittle basin]

he ain't making it to 60

[frozen aspen]

most of us aren't

[barren token]

I will

[brittle basin]

speak for yourself, I made a blood deal with Satan

[scenic dirge]

Where chapter

[ashen perch]

Oda is actually 51 by January 1st, Level 51 as he says it

[rich hornet]

That’s super young

[barren token]

Level 51 reached new perk unlocked: Arthritis

[ashen perch]

Oda is getting... Olda

(older)

[brittle basin]

Oda you have 9 years to finish this series, and you are only gonna get slower and more forgetful. shit.....

[ashen perch]

51 for a mangaka is like 95 for a normal human

[scenic dirge]

Kishimoto takes over if Oda passes

[barren token]

Oda needs to learn how to write an arc that isn't 100 chapters long or he's not finishing one piece

[brittle basin]

In an ideal world, Oda has set aside his pride and hired someone to only ink his sketches so he has more time to rest and focus on story

[barren token]

Oda hires like 20 guys...

[haughty saddle]

Drop worthy

[ashen perch]

he doesnt even wanna draw digitally

[haughty saddle]

Actually

I kill myself in VC

worse than drop worthy

[brittle basin]

Oda has assistants, but only he is inking the characters and anything that moves and VFX

[ashen perch]

even though it would be a big help to him

[scenic dirge]

Oda is too proud to delegate anything to anyone

[upbeat yarrow]

sir this is a wendys

[vestal mural]

I live in constant fear that oda could get togashi’d before op is done

[ashen perch]

I am actually getting scared after all these recent mistakes

[narrow stratus]

is it easy to switch, maybe he will have to learn a whole set of skills and stuff

[barren token]

If oda hired 20 more guys we literally would not be having any of these issues

A guy for each page

[ashen perch]

the frequency of them is terrifying, I hope he is okay

[brittle basin]

that can be a double edged sword, the CTRL+Z temptation is huge and could make chapters take longer. notice how often he does multiple sketches for his color spreads that he starts out with digitally? now imagine that with every chapter

[scenic dirge]

If he hired literally just me we wouldn’t be having any issues

Or breaks

Or bad writing tbh

[brittle basin]

Oda could actually hire me

[barren token]

You know what we would have?

[stone terrace]

I LOVE ctrl + z

[barren token]

A sexy ass assistant working on one piece

[haughty saddle]

I’d make Nami even more gay

[brittle basin]

that's his wife

[scenic dirge]

[ashen perch]

he does have practice with it already, he does his drafts digitally and has done a couple of illustrations digitally. He just doesnt want to draw his manga on it.

[haughty saddle]

I’d make her say it I’d make her say I’m a homosexual Vivi I love you Vivi

[rich hornet]

Sandman?

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-kalifa-kalifa-one-piece-cp9-cp-9-gif-16709200529952109827

[narrow stratus]

i see

[barren token]

Delete tbag gif i don't want to see a woman on my screen

[upbeat yarrow]

has there been that many mistakes during elbaf? i only know like 4

[shadow python]

Nami does love Vivi. She was willing to forgive her owing her 1 billion berries

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/alpha-alpha-one-piece-one-piece-cp8-agent-gif-1840493241597702155

[rich hornet]

Arsal considers God Valley a mistake

[brittle basin]

the absinthe chapter was kind of crazy

[stone terrace]

Woah shes not blonde?

[ashen perch]

absinthe chapter alone had 4 mistakes

[brittle basin]

i don't know, i don't watch the anime enough

[dapper tree]

You and SB feel the same way

[deep chasm]

what is that

[upbeat yarrow]

what chapter is that, elbaf's intro?

[shadow python]

Kalifa dyed her hair to play the part of her disguise

[ashen perch]

yea this is part of his issue, that he would spend too much time correcting his artwork. But like, the one click inking and screentones may make it worth it tho. his peers like MHA's artist Horikoshi loved it when they made the transition lol

[ashen perch]

yeah

[deep chasm]

what was wrong with elbafs intro

[shadow python]

Meanwhile Lucci used his real name and made himself stand out by being a ventriloquist

[stone terrace]

There were several inconsistencies in it

[willow pollen]

Guys why is vivi wearing a nurse outfit

[rich hornet]

It was a train wreck of art continuity

[stone terrace]

And because oda brought up absinthe, people thought it was intentional

[ashen perch]

Luffy calls out Gear 4th when he is using Elephant gun, his axe is a sword in some panels, stuff like that

[stone terrace]

https://preview.redd.it/1127-strange-mistakes-v0-v9mz1zx6hcqd1.jpeg?auto=webp&s=7d2e32a75d78d292c3e22ed3a619bb4bf9782ca2

Idk what the zoro one is

[ashen perch]

no haki

[willow pollen]

This was corrected right?

[ashen perch]

one sword has haki but the other doesnt

[stone terrace]

Haki inconsistencies is just an oda constant so im not counting that

[ashen perch]

well its still weird for only one sword to be coated

like when he forgets, he forgets it altogether lmao

yeah they were corrected vain

[upbeat yarrow]

also this

[willow pollen]

Stuff like this is common with the sanji thing I remember stuff like this happening in the katakuri fight it’s all about what looks best on page not just continuity

Right vs left

[ashen perch]

oh yeah there was the Gunko textbox too

[pulsar path]

Yeah show me! S long as ar long didn't force you to make them so he can plan his world excavation map !!

[rich hornet]

And people think Oda is doing the Blackbeard teeth thing on purpose. The man is designing Teech from scratch every time. He forgets what he looked like before

[ashen perch]

That didnt mention that she is a Celestial Dragon and from the Manmeyer Family

[runic dock]

Oda was on absinthe himself

[brittle basin]

chapter 1127, i think the crew drank absinthe that can cause hallucinations. strange things happen such as Luffy having a sword and then having an axe in the same page but on different panels. i can't remember what the other mistakes were, but it was a crazy coincidence that none of it was intentional 'cause it would've been perfect due to the absinthe. but supposedly Oda just made really obvious mistakes.

[willow pollen]

S long? Is this crocodiles seraphim

[ashen perch]

that was very major too

because we had a lot of theories about Gunko, that were based on her intro box not saying all that

[willow pollen]

I wouldn’t call that major, many times text boxes have been corrected

For example in wano Coby was listed with the wrong rank

[urban lodge]

And they're still going to end up being right so it's an unintentional Goda move

[pulsar path]

It's a long long tribe seephim!

Apoo?

[ashen perch]

it wasnt some typo though, so I would call it major

[vestal mural]

That’s clearly nami