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I've been on both sides of the debate depending on who I wanted to disagree with on that day
Big mom has so many people but only a half dozen came with her to Wano
You were his Marco
ip grabber
I wished we knew eactly how many minsters there were unless BM just gave all her kids titles
Pasta was his Graham
Lmao, true
LOL
Did Graham just fucking die like what happened to the guy
How many of Big moms children has she eaten? We know the one guy was pooped out but is this a normal thing that happens?
He was Lulusia´d
had a single heart attack and died
There's like a 67% chance this is true
Who knows, maybe we will see another copy of Marco in the Void Century Flashback
It will be funny tho
What if another prominent pirate just killed him and Graham entrusted his son to Whitebeard
Oh the wiki tells me that 74/85 of BM's children are confirmed officers
Like Wang Zhi or smth
Shiki, of course
Okay if it's Shiki that would be aura
Not real, ai generated, didnt happen

strong world existing is such a mark against shiki even though I know logically it isn’t canon
Pretty sure no One Piece Movie is canon, except for some lore or backstories
Like Uta past is canon, i think
some of it.
Maybe
Yeah none of them are canon
and I dont think there should be a canon one piece movie
agreed
Except I do kinda want Zephyr to be canon
the whole movie aren't... some of it is
but at the same time
Some people want God Valley to be a movie
I dont toei would do it
I really doubt they would make a one piece movie that doesnt have the strawhats
I’ve seen that but I don’t know that I agree. It’s not really long enough, unless you add in a bunch of the Harald parts which aren’t really relevant since… he isn’t actually at GV.
Speaking of Uta should she be born yet? I don't know how far we're in right now
Best you would get is a non-canon former rocks pirate as a movie villain
yeah... Luffy is such a marketing machine that they really can't do movies without him
She should be yeah
Luffy and Zoro bring in so much on their own that a movie without them probably wouldnt do nearly as well without them
Just extend some bits with fights. Oda didn´t show a lot of things for example.
Especially without any of the other strawhats either
Like Xebec vs Garling
One piece movies only go up down.
We started with Rival of Roger and went to former Admiral then some guy then some little girl (we're going to ignore Bullet). Next movie villain will be a baby
or what happened to Whitebeard after crashing with Domi Reversi Xebec
like if you tell a producer... you have an idea for a One Piece movie and never mention the strawhats... they'll just throw that away or the first thing they'll ask is WHERE ARE THE STRAWHATS?
I mean, the anime will probably expand into a lot of things.
Okay that girl was the daugher of Shanks and was harboring a literal demon so its not quite just "some little girl"
Now Tesoro really isnt like that
next one piece movie should be like that drum island movie that had franky and robin for some reason. fuck it let me see Jinbe and Brook taking on Captain Kuro
alot of one piece early movies were random pirates in a random island
I'm not really addressing the first 9 movies
Or bullet because he goes against my agenda
and not to mention Luffy's childhood friend before Ace and Sabo? wtf
The more we talk about Uta the more she sounds like a sue
yeah my feelings exactly Luffy
god, i need a horror one piece movie again
Was heart of gold a movie?
They were regular episodes then? It seemed like a singular movie, or movie like thing
its special episode i think that's what they call them
Was it shown as like a TV movie? Or maybe something like 3d2y?
Dead ass chat
deadass?
the increase in morgans frequency recently is pretty great
oda might be ramping for morgans and vivi to meet up with the SH
rereading that mogans reference just now idk how harald thing goes but its so shitty that he gave em everything and they couldnt even recognize elbaf at the end
its nothing to them, its accepting their taxes
peak
Good thing im alive
Harald
Lmfao wtf is this
Weapons in human form
Where did your pfp go??
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They were WAITING for this episode to drop
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Bonney the next chopper
Im assuming they've been WAITING to pull the match trigger for quite a while
will sell like pancakes
Merch*
Yea I've just been posting G5 Bonney stuff
Who’s this weirdo
You dont have to post the merch in multiple channels
Skin walker Chopper
Asking for Saturn to kill a kid is crazy
Anime watchers are now bringing the spirits of past malding individuals from #spoilers back from the grave for a couple of weeks
Thankfully though, I never go there
You will
They complaining about joy girl??
this is why people say shit about chopper fans
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there's no place for her to go... unless they leave her in Elbaph with Saul
i assume she'll go to the revos with lillith and kuma after elbaf
Strawhats finally got a cabin girl!
I think shes going to actually be the ruler of Eblaf
I think Bonney is too strong to stay with the strawhats though
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yeah maybe
Gear 5 Bonney merch just keeps dropping
Too strong as in?
damn Jinbe got replaced fast

Oda hates fishmen
Ok but Jinbei can still carry boxes in a way nobody could
She isn’t stronger than the monster trio so she’s good
You know how Luffy is a 19 year old kid? Bonney can age him up instantly to his fighting prime. She can also use distorted futures to make the whole crew Nikas
I don’t trust dragon to keep her safe in the revos
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Stop
her face looks uncanny here
i dont know what it is
Is it because from front view
Bonney ages herself up... she can't age herself up to have fighting prime Haki...
so it doesn't matter
Her fruit is one of the most incredible in the world having it with the strawhats is almost unfair
it feels like my brain is trying to convince me im looking at luffy
The 3rd dimension
“HakiGod-like future”
looks at Brook and Luffy
I don't see why she couldn't. A future where I'm a haki master isn't any more nonsensical than a Nika future or a giant future
yeah her fruit is a bit silly in its possibilities
Gear 5 Bonney got more merch announced today than Usopp did in like 2 years
Her eyes are kind of far apart
but just so very slightly that it becomes uncanny not enough to be obvious
bro I’m gonna lose my fucking mind if I see white usopp one more time
someone’s gotta get shafted :d
oh look it's shenanigansen
Why are we getting Elbaf stuff in our Rocks flashback?
I think he cares about Harald a lot but he also clearly is conflicted with him since the guy went and obeyed the government
I dont think he really hates him but he does not respect his decisions
Harald showed he cared for him so that means something to loki
But yeah you can care for someone but not respect them lol
Loki inexplicably knows everything that happened in this flashback so he knows its Harold's fault Rocks died
Loki probably doesn't know half of it to be honest
the narrator took over this flashback from Loki a while ago
Who are you going to trust the stories narrator or Loki the crown prince of deceit and lies?
both are good at deceit and lies
am I the only that's honestly curious and anticipating what'll become of Loki after Elbaph, like what will he do from here for example, Loki's past continuing to be shown tells quite alot if you ask me :d
Probably not
maybe, maybe not :d
Loki and Hajrudin will be the new Dorry and Broggy
Im open to it at least, wont be bummed if not tho
Strawhat Pirate Loki letsgooooo
Broo what if Jesus Burgress joined the crew?

Wdy guys think
I want him too but I doubt it
Loki can co captain the Giant warrior pirates but I doubt he's a strawhat
We good
I dont think Loki's much of a leader.
Leave that to hajrudin
nah that's hajrudin's thing... let him lead Elbaph
But imagine, the crew would be so overpowered
Luffy already asked him to join
if we compare to Hajrudin and Loki in terms of leadership skills, Loki straight up has none compared to the former.
Imagine feeding him
Have you seen Loki put in a position where he would have to lead?
That was one of the problems tbh
Sanji says CHALLENGE ACCEPTED
My cue
Maybe he'll join Blackbeard the son of his idol
Don't talk on him if you don't know about him 
If I could compare anyone on the crew to Loki with their level of importance would be robin
well no, but even then, I still don't think he has any qualities of a leader due to his behavior, at least from how I see it. He's way too "independent" and is seemingly more of a loner that does his own thing most of the time than someone that would actually be a leader of any sort.
And it was a mistake for Harald to not join
Socrates, did you read the series with interest before this arc
Fr aokiji and Blackbeard our the only tough ones on the crew
😂😂
When did you catch up
wouldn’t have made a difference really since like roger , they were also too early
Socrates he’s calling u a fraud
Did Rocks want the One Piece? I think he had a different goal in mind
No I’m genuinely curious
Chat you think zoro’s gonna get an upgrade? Or luffy?? Me imagining gear 6 fr
He wanted king of the world
obv not, the concept of the "One Piece" wasn't even a thing until Roger and his crew discovered Laugh Tale's existence.
It might not have been too early for Rocks' plan then. At the very least he thought he could succeed with Harald's help
no awakened Nika , never found whatever fruit he was looking for , no Shirahoshi .. even if Rocks & Harald teamed up they were still to early to do anything significant
True true
I think Rocks just wanted to kill Imu
Maybe he wanted to sit on the empty throne maybe he was wanted to beat the toughest guy. It's still a bit unclear what his goals were but from Lokis pov it's because his father didn't join that he failed
But if Loki joins BB maybe they can succeed
He also shows leadership over the beasts in the underworld. The only reason he's "independent" or more of a loner is because we've only seen him in a setting where everyone around him sees him as accursed and evil. And Loki sees the people in the Sun Realm as cowards. The fact that we haven't even seen Loki outside of Elbaph doesn't mean you should judge his behavior off of how he's acted in a place that's done nothing but reject him. And Loki's dream in general is kind of an antithesis to "not being a leader" since he says he wants to be the King of the World
Skypeia was a great arc for me
The rest other than Ennies Lobby was mid
Fr shanks twin brother had something to do with dat
This nigga is insane
Yeah word2 bro I will die on this hill
Do you include water 7 with enies lobby as a saga
Maybe Socrates actually did start reading at Elbaph 🤔
it is a Saga... from LRLL to Post Ennies
^
I like the island yeah
Rank the arcs rn
I like the one where Luffy punches the bad guy
that eliminates post enies lobby
Marineford was good too even if I don't think he actually punches anyone but Koby
- Elbaph
- Skypeia
- Ennies Lobby
- Whole Cake
he punched Garp...
i'm sure that we've had more than 4 arcs
Oh well I forgot the rest
Ngl this episode with Luffy's legendary fruit
Got me even more excited for how crazy Loki's legendary fruit is about to be
Whole Cake 😷
no, why would it be?
Idk
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Can you name even 1 more
Jaya is among my favorite arcs
Also lrll gets too much hate
And syrup village gets too much love
I also prefer skypeia to alabasta
Deserved hate
Dressrosa is over hated too
I understand if it’s the anime
where can i watch episode 1151 for free
I think syrup gets an appropriate amount of love
The first thing I ever saw of OP was lrll anime and I was like “yea this is trash”
Syrup village is the only arc that crosses over into dislike
It's usually among the least liked arcs in one piece but is probably Usopp at his best in the series
I can’t really dislike anything in east blue saga
That’s water 7
He knows it's hopeless but even still he will fight for his village with his life by himself if he has to
It’s just the prologue 
One Piece starts on chapter 100
And real one piece doesn't start till jaya
Usopp was great in water 7. Still stand by he's at his best in syrup
One piece starts once Johnny and yosaku are introduced
Bb and gorosei are introduced in jaya, the true grand villians of the whole thing
Currently rereading one piece I’m somewhere around chapter 50
Chapter 42 has been the best by far so far
Dragons laughing because he knows his dad will be pissed Luffy became a pirate
Johnny and Yosaku are peak
Most accomplished bounty hunters in the series
Reminder Alvida is a yonko commander now
Carrot mentioned
I wouldnt say dialect. It just obscures the honorific used so it could be either san or sama, the former one being less polite
Sanji fans
Speaking of Shirahoshi what are her head things? Is it her hair? It looks like they connect to her bra so is it maybe an outfit?
Oh is she awakened
Shawls arent really uncommon in like more traditional Japanese stuff
With the brothers it definitely isn't attached but I think for Shira it's like her outfit
Wow the dogs look like shirahoshi
Do you think the dogs get to be normal Happy dogs sometimes
Wait...are those awakened clouds? Did a bloody sword awaken a mythical zoan devil fruit?
i'd say it's guaranteed that we'll get a coverpage request with Shamrock giving Cerberus dog treats
Not Kaido, not Marco, I don't really want to count luffy since his fruit is weird. But a sword is our first awakened mythical zoan
Oda if he knew how to draw
I’ve been looking into the abyss contracts stuff and saw someone mention how the White Sea and white White Sea are two cloud levels in the sky
Shallow Sea
Deep Sea
Abyssal Deep Sea
Are there two sea levels for the ocean as well?
Lucci was awakened
Leopards aren't mythical
Oh mythical my bad
Never confirmed but I always assumed Yamato is awakened as well as quillingham
Due to clouds
Killingham is like 99% awakened no?
Id assume but people argue against Yamato even though she has awakened clouds
Common sense says they're both awakened mythical
the main thing against yamato is them also having the clouds as a kid but maybe theyre just goated like that
If clouds can also mean they aren't awakened that's fine. I'm feeling some kinda way about a sword getting there before Kaido or Marco
A lot of times i think oda just forgets stuff when he's doodling. He doodled dog form kid Yamato and just remembers the design has clouds
Foxy
The guy talking to loki
The person Loki talks to on the den den Mushi
you're so welcome :]
????????????

what the fuck
b-ruh
It's a joke bruh
any shanks haters in chat
hello
Don't you just hate how he's so cool and so hot and his fights are so short because no one's ever good enough to not just be one shot?
i want him to have a Gryphon
He's fought only 1 guy so far
One guy with a bounty as large as Luffy. One guy who took down the invincible pirate the legendary big mom. One guy who big news Morgan's said was a candidate for getting the one piece and becoming the next pirate king
And also beat Barto offscreen

shanks is HIM
shanks WINS
i'm shocked that we didn't see Garling use Conquerors Haki in God Valley to be honest
i thought that he definitely would have it
Conquerors without ACoC is just fodder clearing and he didn't want to kill the fodder he wanted to hunt thr fodder
i mean it also shows that they have some kind of ambition
The great ambition of bowing down and following the orders of someone else their entire life
Truly a conqueror's mindset
i mean, Sengoku is supposedly a conqueror
At least he was basically in command of the whole navy
Given Garling is a candidate to find the one piece I don't think he's completely subservient to Imu
Him having CoC is certainly possible though I doubt it'd have made any difference
He is?
Did you see how garling walked into the goroseis room and sat his ass down
He deserves conq
have we gotten the one piece candidates in the anime yet?
not for two more eps
wonder if they'll reveal Shamrock then
Personally I hate him for being a racist rat but you do you 
Morgan's gave his speculation that the next king would be part of the worst generation
Surface Sea and Deep Sea
the silhouette that we can assume to be shamrock being here is so funny
well, we all know it's going to be Luffy
The only two in both groups is Luffy and BB
thats how the ocean works irl
also mailbox... egghead might not end in december...
they should just confirm that it is him
who else would it be?
quite the specific sword
this bit has gone too far I got emotional
if egghead doesn't end in december whats even true anymore
not really, just a cutlass/saber
if egghead doesn't end in december one piece doesn't end
Nose is quite specific too
no laughtale ever
which is attributed mostly to one family
i guess
why wouldn't it end in december, what happened?
also wait its not even his sword lmao
i think only the Figarlands wield sabres
the clips i saw looked like the anime was animated the emeth punch which means it can't be more than 2-3 episodes from ending right?
the anime just finished with chapter 1119 and egghead ends on 1123/1124
oh
so thats 4 episodes minimum
can we ban arsal 😭 ?
what do you mean?
the curve of the handle is different
shamrock's has a much wider arc while the one in the panel is smaller
They look the same to me
maybe its just 3am and im going insane
i know its shamrock too so why am i even arguing against it
the figarlands must think theyre so cool getting three spots in that spread
you're right about the arc being wider but i wouldn't trust oda to keep that consitant especially when that was shamrock (potentially) as a silhoutte still
yeah ill just chalk it up to oda changing the design later
is that coloring official?
no
@frozen aspen not again LMAO
the bigger difference is the fingerless gloves
i dont remember how far the colored manga has gone yet
they probably won't be fingerless, it's just the artist
colored manga is great for picmixes
1065 is the last colored manga chapter if i remember correctly
oh wow theyre very behind
yeah
i thought theyd be in the 1100s
Sengoku low diffs Shamrock, its been confirmed by peak fiction writers

justice always wins
what does Sengoku have to do with this conversation

Sengoku agenda never dies
out of all characters, why Sengoku?
Because hes the GOAT
He was the fleet admiral 

did you see how garling walked over to kill 1hp rocks
Oh my god bruh
What
This news website still does clickbait the old fashioned way
Yeah and it kind of had aura
Potential fraud alert
roger and garp combined couldnt kill rocks but garlic could, w
still needed to 3v1
stupid ass diner forgot the cocaine
nice colors for him
cringe
i keep forgetting he has blonde hair
I like this art work, although I feel like his hair should be getting slowly whiter and whiter, no?
What does his hair look like in modern OP?
Or does it stay blonde btwn GV and today
it's more white yeah
white-yellow
you colored this?
hes probably like 50 at this point in the flashback so it shouldnt be too white
Excellent work, my friend.
no, i found it on twitter with no credit
Ok
reread the flashback, peak raw swag
You tellin me to reread the flashback that I read weekly already?
the knights have some pretty good tailors
i reread it
for real, the God Knights have some of the best outfits
lol
Agreed. Given that Oda revealed, sort of as a gag, the Yoncooks for the marines, I wonder if he'd ever reveal the Marie Geoise tailors.... The Tailor King?
i'm sure we know it already
actually do the strawhats have anyone good at tailoring or sewing on the ship
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The fuck
oh neat
You tellin me a NUDIST designed Garling's fit?
Brook?
can he do that kind of stuff
i think he could
Loki could be the crew seamstress
i'm not sure he'd like that
Shanks should've kept this outfit when he became an emperor

shanks is a comfort > appearance type of guy and he's so goated for that
fair enough
i dont think we will unfortunately, i think we'll get a bit more shanks for the loki capture and maybe some convo between them when loki is chained up but i dont think oda is gonna dive too deep into the holyland stuff in whats left of this flashback
it would be very cool if we followed Shanks in Marijoa and Loki on Elbaph, like seperate POVs up until Shanks departure
this would be the prime-time to explain how Shanks got the scar too
given it's so fresh
lmao, if oda does another layer for this flashback it would be sooooo funny
i feel like, at this point just throw it all on us
By the time the flashback is over everything upstairs will be resolved Bonney will have empowered the kids and they saved the day while everyone was in storytime
I believe in a SBS it's mentioned that Nami and Robin do all the clothes fixing
that makes sense
and for some reason I wanna say Oda mentioned Sanji too
Nami was the one who fixed Luffy's strawhat after Buggy assulted it, if i remember correctly
she does!
I think it's partially what convinces Luffy that Nami is actually a good person
Buggy has canonically come the closest to destroying the straw hat. Not necessarily luffy but the physical hat
i dont care if you reread it, i wasnt addressing it to you
she fixes his treasure
shanks is HIM
beckman upscale
that's true
Why does Shanks' crew have 3 gunmen?
they all shoot Haki bullets
the more haki bullets the better
I mean I'm saying 3 but Rockstar is probably a gunman too
None of them use fruits, I believe
shanks is a gunman too 
I also don't think 3 are confirmed gun users right?
Ben Beckman uses his rifle as a baseball bat
I recall before Film Red we learned their fighting style
shanks already carried them enough
Iirc the fat one rolls at people
Rockstar is a swordsman
"the fat one" insane roux disrespect 💔
Shanks really is that guy though
Oh Shanks does have a swordsman!
he is proud
he could easily be a solo yonko but he gotta foster care that fodder
shanks is too nice
heart of gold truly
Wait a minute...that's a cutlass! Could Rockstar be...
he put himself at risk in the Holy Land just to further Roger's Will, he's the GOAT
roger's dream was to be a celestial dragon all along
i still think that Shanks will take Gryphon before returning from Marijoa
shanks is just doing all the side quests before the main
I mean given how Shamrock spoke of him this arc probably wasn’t pretty
Shamrock seemed more disappointed then anything
Considering Shanks presumably betrayed him completely Shamrocks cold detached attitude towards his brother is rather kind
I don't think so, Shanks is able to stop the war at Marineford because he has special status beyond Yonko. He also was able to meet with the Gorosei easily in the the pre time skip (yes that was Shanks!)
i dont think so, i think he straight up ran away with his sword gryphon, but i think he said goodbye to shamrock and shamrock didnt alert anyone of shanks leaving ahead of time because shamrock actually loves his little bro 
the sadness in his eyes...
there's nothing negative in there that suggests Shanks lost status other than living in the Holy Land
Shamrock also offered to spare Loki's friend, if he decided to join them
Imagine how mad he was. His lil bro leaves it ALL just to go with the FILTHY COMMONERS
the humanity!
I'm pretty sure Shanks has the ability to visit the Holy Land at his leisure
i don't think so
which is why he was able to gain audience with the Gorosei
chap 907 was shamrock 
“You aight traitor”
i think that Shanks had one chance, when he was found first given he didn't leave them on his own action
shamrock went to the gorosei to talk about shanks
its 70% chance shamrock, 30% chance shanks imo (for now)
nah
yuh
Crazy how Loki skipped being the blade of the knights and everything
ive calculated the probabilities
he looks so cold sitting here
one of the best panels this past year fr
Aura farming
I'm fairly certain 907 is Shanks telling the Gorosei about Teach and his special body
more likely now
i absolutely adore Cerberus
I also agree it’s shanks who met with the elders tbh
Lmao. This is an absurd take. It's Shamrock telling the Gorosei about Shanks
how would shanks know about teach's special body? do you think he gathered intel in general about davy clan?
Like why would Shamrock need to be fucking cloaked to meet with his bosses
Hormones.
so garling doesnt see him or aura farming
Meek I don’t think that’s how that works
Shanks would've probably learned BB never sleeps
I think Shanks learns this when he gets scarred
how would his fight with BB lead him to learning about the "no sleep" theory?
LunaPien seems to think so and he's got the best prediction track record of any person I've seen online
DawnDusk 🔥
I trust his assessment
what if Shanks learns about Blackbeards true heritage in Marijoa
same guy
Blackbeard says he has the power to take the devil power then next chapter the Strawhats go to Florian Triangle 
they discussed it as kids, perhaps he got a more accurate intuition when they encountered each other again
I believe Teach is hiding his true power or something
knowing Blackbeard he would probably just tell it to Shanks if Shanks asked to be honest
Like he’s jobbing all the time but somehow is capable of all these insane feats
i dont think he's still "jobbing"
Blackbeard was all about revealing his darkness power to Ace
When Blackbeard says “it’s time now” when he faces shanks again is when we will see his true power 
I mean in the sense whenever he starts a fight he gets his ass handed to him and then somehow gets a lick back
in the oden flashback, it was just buggy yapping, so yeah it plants the idea of the possibility but i really dont see how their fight would have led shanks to concluding "wow this guy really doesnt sleep", i dont mind the idea that shanks managed to learn davy clan info during his journeys, thats more reasonable to me
yeah Blackbeard specifically mentions the Yami Yami no mi absorbs devil powers, not devil fruit powers. a small but important nuance
i've got a hard time seeing how Blackbeard would have the advantage over Shanks, when Shanks is such a haki master and Blackbeard is a master at devil fruits
Oda must have something up his sleeve
The next chapter after he says that
if the scar from shanks is from blackbeard, how did blackbeard manage to shift himself from whitebeard's ship to the red line and mariejoa
i'm curious about that
BB and Shanks have their confrontation between 19 and 14 years ago from current story point
I don’t think he went to the holy land
unless there's a timeline error somewhere
I think shanks got the scar then went to the holy land
wait you think he has been to Marijoa before?
shanks was likely on a mission away from the holyland
what if BB can access the Abyss?
idk because the timejump and the surrounding situation kinda informs that take
maybe shanks went on a mission yeah
idk why ppl think BB must have been near the redline/at holyland when the scarring happened
I think Imu is just siphoning its power from inside the triangle
yeah but holy knights can travel basically anywhere and go back to holyland in moments because of the abyss power
blackbeard wasnt at mariejois
shanks could probably teleport as a hk
I think BB and Shanks probably confront each other and that leads to Shanks wanting to go to the Holy Land for some reason
shanks was already bandaged when he was at the fisher tiger raid
yeah but the devoted blades don't have the power of the abyss yet, right? they only have to possiblity of travelling through it if i remember correctly
fisher tiger managed to rip the bandages off shanks face tho
we saw shanks 5 years prior to the incident with fisher tiger with a full eye
yeah the shallow contract is a loose bond, we don't really know if it grants powers
shanks has the armband with the mark which is all thats needed to travel the abyss WITH someone who has the power to summon it iirc
it was during and the aftermath of the fisher tiger incident that we see shanks with the bandage on his eyes
and that's one year before harald's death
yeah at Roger's execution
i wonder if Shanks was a lone when he was scarred by Blackbeard, or maybe he was with someone? like Shamrock or another God Knight
yeah, my point is that Shanks wouldn't be able to conjure it
no no
he'd need Shamrock to manifest the ritual i guess
it's between 19-14 years ago Shanks gets scarred
shamrocks has different hair, that's shanks
That's Shamrock, my friend!
i'm not sure
That's Shamrock yeah
That's not Shanks, my friend
yeah, maybe they were on a mission together and went to handle separate things and thats when BB scarred Shanks
this is 20 years ago, the Fisher Tiger incident was 15 years ago
i know
No that's 24 years ago, my friend
24?
Yes my friend
i confused myself
20 years ago Shanks was in the Roger crew
Blackbeard scarred Shanks and Shamrock scarred Whitebeard
Twins love to confuse us
"my honorable friend" energy from meek lmao
he's being stupid again
EXACTLY
19 years ago Roger was executed
You guys just never think I'm right
No my friend, this was 24 years ago.
LOL
ooops
what was the most recent thing you were right about? genuine question
Harald pulling his horns out at the end of the chapter for ch 1166.
heartbreaking! the worst person you know has a point
I literally called it to the exact chapter #
i'm so confused, lol
so 19 years ago is when Shanks meets Beckman and Yasopp, excuse me. Lots of timelines in OP!
nono, something bigger picture than that
Nothing really.
😭
I've always gotten my bets lost
the switch up is crazy
I'm sorry
but, W honesty
so Roger was executed 24 years ago, and Shanks was on Marijoa 20 years ago
I really don't learn
then it lines up
My favorite 2 bets were both losses (Mosa = Mjosgard & Zeff/Hiruluk being Rocks Pirates).
😔
No my friend.
This is not true
no, we know that Shanks was in holyland 15 years ago at least
i think that's shamrock now, shanks said he wasted 24 years down there
^
where am i getting the 20 years from
we know he was there 15 years afo
Shanks arrives in the Holy Land 15 years ago from current day and stays about a year
You not reading the chapter properly
My friend
😭
meek talk like a normal person for once
oh my dumb ass, i confused it with Harald on Fishman Island
oof
My friend - "that very year" - the same year as Roger's death.
still using tcb
@vital heart are you on the prediction wagon that shamrock will convert to the good side in final war?
nicenice, we'll win this one fs
i feel like Shamrock has to be sort of redeemed given his mothers last wish
nope
Is there a way for me to change my keyboard
i dont want any redemption for shamrock tbh
shamrock will have some redemption by helping shanks but 99% chance he's dying in order to help the good side
i mean even if it's a sacrifice of sort
My friend, why not?
Shamrock killed Loki's friend in cold blood, he's irredeemable
he did offer to spare him, it was Loki who declined but yeah
it was a loaded offer anyway
loki burned a whole village down because some of the ppl were crazy, loki isnt a saint
i don't think it will be sudden
Like I can't see him dying fighting for the CDs sorry
i think that Shamrock will have an arc which leads to a possible redemption
Loki is caught between being really kind and believing he's the second coming of destruction Nika
shanks & shamrock v garling 
that would be cool
the only issue with shamrock betraying CDs is imu should revoke his powers as soon as they become aware of it
if that happens, i hope that they have a team up move
The thing someone mentioned yesterday here is that Shamrock most likely represents Garling's will.We don't know much about him yet but it wouldn't be surprising if he was raised as a tool by him. It's not hard to figure out that what Garling wants shall not pass and it's better if shamrock break off the cDs amd Garling on his own
this aint that buddy
Hakai
shamrock yeah
Shamrock will start the Neo-CDs
haki hakai, lol
Hakiai
who would join this besides maybe gunko
@alpine trench Have you ever played MC in your life (Minecraft)?
neo-CDs sounds silly i am sorry
i haven't played MC in my life meek (minecraft)
Mjosgard, Homing, Corazon, Shalria... Not sure of who else
literally all dead besides the chick 😭
if Shamrock has a redemption then i see him staying away from all of these organisations
are the neo-CDs an afterlife group?
maybe if Shanks and Shamrock both are alive after the final-war they can build a new God Valley in honor of their mother
shamrock gets a fake death and hides away being the best uncle to shanks' kiddos 
Garling has some ulterior motive about something that's not in line with Imu. I wonder what it is.
he loses a leg instead of a arm
if this happens, its probably just to make figarlands the new top 1
overthrowing?
i used to think garling had his own agenda but he really seems to be an imu worshipper
idk but Oda specifically drew him his own panel for the infamous race for the One Piece panel during Egghead
oh true
Shamrock most likely is also there, lol
it's funny that 3 Figarlands are in that spread
would be funny if oda does that. Shanks starts making fun of him for it (the last person who should mock anyone on missing limbs)
yeah the shadowed figure
their banther against eachother would be legendary
Oda loves shanks so much he creates two new characters who just look just like him
i wonder how long Oda has been planning to introduce Shamrock and Garling
shows that he cares for Shanks
it's sweet seeing Shamrock being a big brother
Everyone loves shanks
potentially since shanks meeting with WB in the 300s, since WB mentioned his scar being from someone that reminded him of shanks' face
the speculation started at Marineford that Shanks might have a twin
yeah, i feel like that has to be Shamrock at this point
if not Garling had something to do
i hope its shamrock
oh yeah, when it said that he stopped Kaido before coming
because he somehow simultaneously holds off Kaido then appears at Marineford instantly
yeah that's quite insane
Before whole cake island at the very least
wb could have been about roger
i don't know if Whitebeard would've said that his face reminded him of Shanks
or have that tone, when discussing about Roger
considering that he mentioned Roger in the same discussion as Gol D. Roger
I mean its not like their dynamic was set in stone at the time
shanks is roger's successor, so roger was a reasonable assumption until garling and shamrock were introduced
fair enough
yeah wait I forgot it goes all the way back to the meeting between WB and Shanks
shoot
u gotta remember there are big gaps between these events
Guys, I’m curious as to why would stabs defect?? I’m definitely sure him and shanks had a conversation before, but why would that happen now though??
wdym happen now?
what chapter is the Whitebeard and Shanks dialogue?
must of us don't see them bc we started OP ppst marineford
800s I think
but a few years passed between these events irl
no, it must be earlier
You guys think shanks somehow confronted Kaido….without his crew…and no one noticed or cared?
it was pre Marineford
Started when amazon lily was ending and impel down was a thing
It doesn’t really make sense that shamrock was the one to confront Kaido
😭
Chapter 434
You guys talk about Stabs betraying the CDs right?? So, why now??
holy
u old as hell
then here he mentions Roger
I started in dressrosa so much later
oh, we're just theorizing for later events of the final saga, for me its purely based on shamrock forming a real bond with shanks since shanks actually has a heart, unlikely garling and the rest of the WG that are just using shamrock as a tool
Not that old, but still started early
Sengoku is a rat
wonder if Shanks brought medicinal water from Marijoa
By the looks of things Stabs ain’t going anywhere bro 
WB said it was cheap stuff, so unlikely
it should be West Blue alcohol
I've hated Sengoku's guts since day 1
Check how he talks to Loki about his stance in all of this
just wait for the shamrock inner monologue + the shanks flashback
God Valley?
so far, shamrock has only been saying things in front of ppl that can snitch on him, he has to keep up an act

Mimi really hoping he's a rat
😭
Can't accept someone that looks like her goat is horrible
yeeee, i like the theory that pieces of god valley survived and shanks was able to locate one
i accept garling being horrible
theres hope for shamrock
yet he leaves before anything starts
maybe
its the rest of the HKGs that carry it out
Literally not by choice
based , screw them kids
that doesnt make it better 😭
Wasnt a choice thing
yeah i know, im just saying he didnt do the deed
am i crazy or is oda drawing way too many young looking girls in like damn near no clothes
welcome to one piece...
ur not and oda is a degenerate
it didn’t seem that bad up until like wanoish era
nami was actually mostly fully clothed throughout wano
ever since rebecca hes gotten worse
y
peak arc for nami's outfits
mostly just mean like before that there wasn’t mant of these and after it just immediately got predatory
egghead was the worst of it i think
yeaaa rhay whole arc had me a little
egghead outfits for the girls look like pure shit
uncomfortable
Egghead just needed to add some pants or skirts
although, to be a hypocrite, i didnt mind robin's outfit in the manga for egghead
The Japanese are very intelligent but also very perverted. Some of them marry anime plushies and stuff and that ain't even the worst of it
robin's outfit for egghead in the anime was terrible tho, her whole emotional moment learning saul was alive was ruined by the ass shot toei had
true but oda never seemed like that maybe the age making him a freak or he met some odd friend he been taking ideas from
it’s just always an ass shot and it’s 50/50 whether the girl looks 9 or not
oda has been sussy since sanji in thriller bark
at least
true but he wasn’t THAT bad like it was a little odd but it wasn’t as excessive
Ok move on from this topic
This is anime in general though. Every anime female needs to look like a pron star. No creativity anymore. Pre time skip one piece was good tho
I can already tell where this is going
it just sucks that he’s making good ass character designs for the men and women jist get forgotten dmsn near
got you this just been on my mind for a minute
new topic, shanks is the goat
Debatable
new topic shanks sucks
L take
Such a great moment because you know from the way bro holds that sword that’s Shanks
imo before time skip it wasnt that bad, its really only started post time skip with namis outfits, or rather her lack of, and every arc having some half naked minor princess, with rebecca by far being the worst, especially eith the shots from toei in the anime
Rebecca ain't the worst. That's bonney. She's a literal kiddo of 12 yrs
yeaaa ig he was js testing the watwr n when nobody said anything he just went eith it
its funny that it looks like he's about to divine departure but he just breaks the collar
I literally said move on
true, i forgot abpout her lmao
Did ya? Didn't see
who y’all rooting for rn
Literally not true, my friend
Teach
Bro making shi up
shanks is HIM
Meek stop with this shit or I’m going to report you for suspicious behavior
i still dont understand what happens here. is fisher tiger pulling shanks bandage over his eye off? cuase he got something in his hand and it looks like blood is pouring out of shanks head
shanks is highly questionable
BRUH. What did I do
ye, fisher tiger managed to hit shanks and rip off the bandage
Fisher just ripped the bandage off
I got a warn 2 days ago from Arsal for spamming with all caps. this is my way to atone - I'm like a real life Harald
yall remember how the queen died that shits still crazy to me
i gotta catch up what set this up?
whats not true in that msg
I'm sorry my friend.
This has been known about for 19 years
Shanks doesn't hold his sword in any unique manner
Looks like any other scabbard, imo.
WAIT
isnt that panel of shanks with the sword off?
shouldnt shanks be using his left hand?
why?
wait i’m confused wdym recent then?
because at that pt in time shanks has both hands and he's naturally left-handed
waitwaitwait
As in recent for the story the current chapter takes place 15 years ago
we know that from where? i dont remember if its ever stated that he was left handed tbh
It’s a familiar stance for us to clock
ahh okay okay
Visual shorthand to say that’s Shanks
he has his sword on the right-hip since he's lefthanded, shamrock is righthanded
good catch
any panels of shanks holding something before losing his left arm has him using his left hand
since chapter 1
i lowket just wanna know wtf is up w zoros whole thing rn
ok nvm about the fisher tiger panel being off i mixed up left and rights 

its pretty clearly shanks
hair matches, and his eye with the scar is not shown on purpose
what if shamrock and shanks keep switching places
why did oda make it look like he had the strawhat tho
what if there’s 2 shanks
i really hope oda does some mystery panels for shanks and shamrock during their flashback, it would be fun to speculate who did what during that timeframe
wait so lowket cuz flashbacks i forgot where are the straw hats rn
just re-read elbaf dude...
shamrock tucks his arm in and puts on fake scars when he swaps in
Where do you think they are
shanks puts on make up and wears a prosthetic
Luffy and Chopper are listening to Loki. Everyone else is dying to Imu
loki is making all this shit up btw
thats his devil fruit
the stories he tells of the past become reality
nvm that was kinda distasteful

I laughed
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