also-manga

[brittle basin]

FF7 released in 1997. So did One Piece. Coincidence? I think not. I've cracked the code, my dear Watson Bean.

[bold sonnet]

[iron oriole]

Ida sadly dies, Loki goes off the deep end & kills most of the Elders but Harald stops him

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/mourinho-gif-20750597

[vital heart]

As you may know TCB translated the shallow sea contract very differently from how Viz did the shallows covenant and so on… if it gets brought up again in a future chapter, should we go to what Viz does or should we keep doing what we did in the most recent chapter?

[wraith mantle]

another Meek disaster class incoming

[dense rapids]

• loki rampages
• ts harald meets imu

[honest garden]

Joshstocks rising AS USUAL

[iron oriole]

Viz, its much better naming ngl

[vital heart]

By the way - I’m not gonna translate 1169 and or 1170… not sure based on breaks rn.

[wraith mantle]

you think loki will crash out more once ida dies?

[honest garden]

What'd Viz call it?

[wraith mantle]

i think this crash out on alcohol village is enough

[honest garden]

Shallow sea is cool

[vital heart]

Shallows Covenant, Deeps Covenant, Abyssal Covenant

[dense rapids]

its like diabolical covenant

what was used in elbaph

[wraith mantle]

Viz translation is better

a lot better

[honest garden]

Abyssal makes more sense I think, especially since abyss has been evoked before

[hot cairn]

the Viz one sounds cooler

[iron oriole]

Yes, he's crashing out rn at the possibility of the one person who he thinks truly cares about dying, once it happens it'll be much worse because then Loki will have "lost everything"

[honest garden]

Idk how accurate the TN is though

[trim lily]

from what meek wrote earlier it seems to be less accurate

[wraith mantle]

will be interesting

we have one year till the castle incident anyways

[iron oriole]

Personally think its what made Loki decide on being the "Sun God that'll destroy the world"

[wraith mantle]

nah he had this notion before

he talked about it with rocks

[iron oriole]

Yeah that he thinks Rocks is it

But he's not

So once Ida decides, Loki will take it upon himself

[shadow python]

Lokis destroy the world is weird

[sage temple]

Loki carries on Davy's dream

[wet condor]

I'm guessing you guys were inspired by the white and white-white sea from Skypeia?

[iron oriole]

In his eyes he'll have nothing left in the world, so why not destroy it

[prisma idol]

I like the idea that Stephen kept with the theming the WG has had, and since you could call the deep deep sea the abyss it works still

The idea still comes across

[shadow python]

Rocks meant imu when he said the world but despite the flashback suggesting otherwise Loki shouldn't know Imu exists

[sage temple]

Not really, he has Mosa

[trim lily]

yeah it might be a localization thing

maybe deep deep works better in japanese than in english

[iron oriole]

I'm talking about after the moment Ida dies

[sage temple]

Oh

[sage temple]

I doubt Loki's doing much at the time

[wet condor]

Lol, it's crazy how big Loki is

[vital heart]

@wet condor @trim lily @honest garden @hot cairn

[wet condor]

Just seeing him next to Gerd

[sage temple]

I doubt he'd destroy everything

[keen quiver]

Now its davy's dream

2 days ago it was rocks will

[sage temple]

Loki's stopped destroying things for no reason since he met Rocks

Loki probably went to the Sun Realm

[keen quiver]

Socrates the ultimate thief of someone else's arc

[wraith mantle]

i hope shirahoshi=mosa is not a red herring

[fading jewel]

Hey guys how are you all today?

[trim lily]

i hope it is

[vital heart]

Side Note: Something I learned after this is that the "Hot Hot Sea" which was introduced in WCI was also written in this same form. I assumed that Stephen Paul would apply the same logic especially since its accurate, too. Abyssal really just didn't make sense - it seemed more of the "cooler" option, and that's all.

@wet condor @honest garden @hot cairn

[trim lily]

good :D

[sage temple]

Rock's real name is Davy

[iron oriole]

Bro he just destroyed a village for just the idea of Ida dying, once she does it'll be 10x worse

[wet condor]

Yeah, you had a good idea going

[sage temple]

Thats because they poisoned Ida

[wet condor]

But people are gonna say you did it wrong because you're not official

[fading jewel]

Bro what’s the theory’s on the one piece??

[keen quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/you-aint-fooling-nobody-not-fooled-transparent-see-thru-see-through-gif-11080779

[wraith mantle]

its too self indulgent for it to be a red herring
oda trying too had to "bait"

[fading jewel]

Or the name of D.?

[wet condor]

The logic is very valid

[sage temple]

God forbid I use his real name

You laggard jk

[iron oriole]

No shit, he destroyed the village & presumably killed them all because of it, her actually dying will set Loki off even more... how can you say it wouldn't?

[prisma idol]

I wouldn't mind Shaggyhoshi, but its not what I would prefer

[wraith mantle]

i am sorry but most of the chat here doesn't know japanese so for all we know you are making shit up

[prisma idol]

I don't know what I prefer but it isn't shaggyhoshi

[keen quiver]

Christ spoilers later today gotta watch you people closely

[vital heart]

Yeah well I hope people trust me

[fading jewel]

What’s the will of the D.?

[prisma idol]

Im going to spoil #anime

And you cant stop me

[keen quiver]

Age gap a bit problematic for me so I'll leave it at that.

[dense rapids]

either its hsirahoshi or its not and its someone crazy

[keen quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/gun-jensen-ackles-dean-winchester-the-cw-supernatural-gif-10870290

[dense rapids]

i think its shirahoshi for now

[prisma idol]

Not shipping.... as friends.... smh...

[wraith mantle]

they are clearly just friends

[keen quiver]

Sorry bluko its time to put you down

[sage temple]

When Rocks died, did we see Loki go up storming and destroying villages

[wraith mantle]

nothing romantic has been established yet

[trim lily]

besties, even

[dense rapids]

we're not shipping loki and shirahoshi

[prisma idol]

I DONT MEAN AS A SHIP OMG

[thick mango]

they do have a lot to relate about

[dense rapids]

LokiMato

[trim lily]

well neptune kinda wanted it

[thick mango]

shirahoshi is also kinda imprisoned in fmi times

[sage temple]

Loki only destroyed alcohol village because they were at fault for his mother's poisoning

[prisma idol]

This is my preference shipping wise for Loki

[vital heart]

My friend, in 9 years time, Loki will be 72 and Shirahoshi will be 24. That means Loki will effectively be the same age as Shirahoshi (72 / 3 = 24 years). From that point on (9 years time), Shirahoshi will only get older and older than Loki.

-#MeekTruth

[iron oriole]

Rocks isn't FUCKING IDA, his only real mother

[keen quiver]

Earlier I saw people perhaps shipping them and was confused

[dense rapids]

only sanji fans want loki shirahoshi

[shadow python]

We don't have to ship Loki and Shira their parents already did it

[wraith mantle]

neptune pimping out his unborn daughter is not something we should care about

[sage temple]

Rocks is the only reason Loki views the world as he does

[prisma idol]

Shaggyhoshi is just the theory that Shirahoshi is mosa, its separate from the shipping

[dense rapids]

LokiMato

[keen quiver]

Yeah that atleast is a lot more reasonable than the alternative.

[wraith mantle]

the only reason is like shirahoshi=mosa is because of the foreshadowing

[sage temple]

Why would Loki blame something on someone that didn't do anything

[prisma idol]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-gif-13575853101874488635

[sage temple]

Loki already destroyed the village

[keen quiver]

She's more attractive to me than ida tbh

[wraith mantle]

if Oda baits this hard, its just really dumb

[dense rapids]

Mato runs Loki’s favorite bar and she resembles Ida

[trim lily]

she doesnt really resemble ida that much lol

i guess they both have freckles

[vital heart]

Is mato supposed to be a reference to a Tomato?

[iron oriole]

Are you reading to what you're saying?

You know Loki destroyed them because of what they did to IDA & he literally said "SHE'S NOT GONNA DIE RIGHT?!?!?!" but say that he wont crash out further once the one person who he's seemingly close to actually dies?

[vital heart]

Tomato

Tomato Tomato, Potato Potato

[wraith mantle]

buggy thinks all ugly women looke alike 😭

[trim lily]

yeah i dont see the resemblance other than them having freckles

[dense rapids]

Yes

[vital heart]

https://x.com/pewpiece/status/1995141619851629017

Pew (@pewpiece)

JOYBOY'S VOICE FINALLY!!!

X · Nov 30, 2025, 2:43 PM

[dense rapids]

[keen quiver]

Buggy what is wrong with your pfp

[vital heart]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT. JOYBOY IS A KID?

[sage temple]

Crash out on who? He only went to them because they were to blame. He would likely let his anger out on mountains, or the heaven realm

[dense rapids]

No nitro

[dense rapids]

No that’s adult Luffy

[keen quiver]

😭

[iron oriole]

The fucking world

Everyone

[sweet anvil]

Is it just me or was the contract part very badly translated

[iron oriole]

He's gonna nobody left who he thinks really cares

[wraith mantle]

i wonder if we will get more shanks

[dense rapids]

Naw Socrates Loki is about to go on a rampage next chapter

Especially when Ida dies

[sweet anvil]

I feel like abyssal covenant is very different to deep deep sea contract

[sage temple]

Well is Elbaph burning as a whole the year after Ida would've died?

[keen quiver]

Meek fucking deep-deep'd it

[sage temple]

No

[vital heart]

Read my write up.

[vital heart]

Nope. Fuck off

I had an excellent line of thinking.

[wraith mantle]

because shanks was involved in the castle incident, and we are following his story up till a year prior to it

[sage temple]

You wanna bet?

[trim lily]

i dont think we'll get that much more shanks here

[iron oriole]

As a Loki fan, you disappoint me Socrates

[sage temple]

@dense rapids @iron oriole lets bet

[dense rapids]

I mean he’s already on a rampage

[keen quiver]

Socrates about to get muted for a month with all these bets

[sage temple]

Not on someone who is blameless

[dense rapids]

Do you think he’s gonna calm down after Ida dies?

[dense haven]

guys what if joyboy is revealed to be the first red hair

[wraith mantle]

then whats the point of getting shanks stuff this chapter

[dense rapids]

It’s the whole village

Read the chapter

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-nba-gdfactoryclips-confused-aura-gif-9583865821628002832

[trim lily]

to set up stuff later for him

[sweet anvil]

I mean your translations are good just that specific part gives different connotations to what it is meant to be

[wraith mantle]

i assume everything thats been shown in this flashback has to tie in to the castle incident

[trim lily]

and it also explains why he wanted to talk to harald

[wraith mantle]

did harald want to talk to shanks?

[sage temple]

Well do we know if the whole village is innocent?

[dense haven]

socrates can't get muted before shanks one shots loki

[sweet anvil]

What other bets did he make

[trim lily]

shanks wanted to talk to harald

[wraith mantle]

i thought it was the other way around

[lofty fern]

Thank you for someone actually going into this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1ZeAlM3Gw8

[pine ridge]

meek is about to send you his paragraph

[sage temple]

Anything to take up space in chat I guess

[vital heart]

Read this:

#also-manga message

[sage temple]

@patent nexus is this you

[keen quiver]

Loki getting domi reversi'd

[wraith mantle]

idk, considering shanks was on elbaf when the castle incident happened

[wraith mantle]

i am sure we will get more

[wet condor]

lmaooo this shit so funny

[trim lily]

im sure we'll get a few panels but i dont think he'll be a major factor in it

[wraith mantle]

yeah

ngl

every time shanks is on screen, he has been a major part of a chapter

so idk about that lol

[keen quiver]

Shanks still needs to beat loki's ass

And talk to harald

He's not done this flashback

[wraith mantle]

oda won't ruin loki's aura just yet

his ass whopping will be shown later

[keen quiver]

He's about to

😭

[trim lily]

im gonna be annoyed if we dont cover loki's life after the incident

might as well get it done here

[wraith mantle]

why would we

[trim lily]

why not

[sage temple]

Loki destroyed that village because they poisoned his mom
Loki destroyed the mountains because Rocks died to the WG
Nothing says Loki would just lash out on a random village because he's mad after his whole view on life has been changed

[wraith mantle]

this whole thing will end with the castle incident

[sweet anvil]

The one shot one won’t happen but the domi reversi one was a bad bet ngl

[sage temple]

Nothing supports this

[keen quiver]

Because it would lead directly to him being chained up

[trim lily]

we decided to dedicate like 8 chapters to rocks whats 3 more

[sage temple]

Nothing supports this either

[keen quiver]

Tied up for 6 years still screaming about shanks

He got whooped

[dense haven]

I want to know why lola rejected loki

[sage temple]

He also called Shanks a coward

Does this mean Shanks cheated

We don't know

[keen quiver]

Cheating ?

Socrates

[sage temple]

So a 1 shot is baseless so far

[wraith mantle]

rocks is important to harald and loki

[keen quiver]

These mfs are pirates

There is no cheating

😭

[sage temple]

Yes there is

?

[wraith mantle]

i think rocks' death really influence harald a lot

[shadow python]

Lola heard that Loki was already engaged to Shira and didn't want to be a homewrecker

[keen quiver]

No way you said they cheating

[wraith mantle]

made him go the extra mile to atone for the giants' history

[sage temple]

Cheating is literally what Shanks said he does

He doesn't play by the rules

[keen quiver]

They are pieates

[sage temple]

I'm aware

[iron oriole]

In a battle of Pirates vs Pirates there is no cheating

Anything goes

[keen quiver]

Exactly crying about cheating its fool's work

[dense haven]

loki slandering shanks just paints him as a sore loser

[wraith mantle]

without knowing rocks, we won't know why the castle incident happened

[keen quiver]

And loki is a pirate

[trim lily]

his life isn’t that important

[keen quiver]

So be doesnt get to cry foul

[trim lily]

literally all of rock’s influence on loki can be explained with “he is strong and free”

[keen quiver]

Only crying about cheating when they lose

Never when they win

[wraith mantle]

harald literally crashed out due to rocks death and that was the tipping point that made him go to the WG and offer to be a slave

[sage temple]

👍 If Shanks needed 5 other people to beat Loki don't talk to me

[shadow python]

Loki didn't really slander Shanks. But there probably wasn't any reason to talk about how Roger was helpless against Shakky in the Harald flashback right?

[trim lily]

yeah but we didn’t need to explore rocks entire legacy and god valley for that

[keen quiver]

Show me where I said that

Because I din't say that once

[wraith mantle]

kinda need to

[sage temple]

5 other people vs 1 person is what I see as cheating under the circumstances of a 1v1

[trim lily]

rocks was harald’s friend who he let down

shrimple as

[wraith mantle]

if we just skimmed over rocks, his death would mean very little

[leaden rivet]

Rocks just didn’t need to be the mc for that long

[pine ridge]

if loki doesnt have 5 friends that's on him

[shadow python]

It's not like there are children being killed upstairs while Loki is telling his story. He has all the time in the world

[vital heart]

My friend, I am going to wish you a very nice day.

[trim lily]

thanks

[keen quiver]

Did he ever say that shit was a 1v5 or did his crew sit back and do nothing ?

[sage temple]

I never said Loki with 5 other people

Read it again

[wraith mantle]

i also assume the whole shanks thing will be important for this flashback

[leaden rivet]

His death was lame as hell anyway. I thought he would say some philosophical shit at his death. Dude just died.

[sage temple]

We don't know what happened

[pine ridge]

I know cause loki got social skill issued

[sage temple]

He didn't say it was a 1 shot either

[keen quiver]

Yeah which is why all we have to go off is him screaming about cheating.

[sweet anvil]

Yeah there’s no concrete evidence I just don’t think it’s a good bet because there’s 3 options on elbaf rn

1. Everyone fights imu ( the main cast gets violated)
2. Luffy and Loki end up fighting other people who get domi reversid , possible but I feel like this only happens if Loki is immune
3. Loki gets domi reversid , most likely scenario as it’ll build a bond between Luffy and Loki if he frees him also shows how history isn’t repeating itself as unlike rocks Loki gets freed , also gives us a great fight in Loki vs Luffy and gives imu a reason to leave the island and leave stuff to Loki ( who Luffy frees )

[shadow python]

What about Lokis animal friends? I can't imagine they just sat there doing nothing while Shanks was one shotting

[sage temple]

Yeah so what does that have to do with what I'm saying

[urban lodge]

I thought he would at least say some cringe shit about his will living on through his son

[vital heart]

@keen quiver @frail kindle @gloomy tree can I post something that is sorta spoilers related?

[frail kindle]

No

[keen quiver]

No

[wraith mantle]

nobody expected a grand death given we know he was erased from history

[leaden rivet]

Why did you need to ping all 3 lol

[vital heart]

Wait

[iron oriole]

It wasn't on Elbaf

[sage temple]

There aren't only 3 options there are plenty more

[vital heart]

@frail kindle @keen quiver Check DMs.

[tranquil blade]

I'm, not a helper but no

[gloomy tree]

Meek

what are you doing

[frigid gulch]

I liked his death. I don’t think he coulda said some stuff like WB

[sage temple]

There's probably over 100 options Oda can take Elbaph

[vital heart]

Chrissy check DMs, lmao

[sweet anvil]

These are the 3 main ones I’ve seen obviously there are more but they’re less likely imo

[leaden rivet]

Glex responded so fast it feels like he already had no typed

[frigid gulch]

OP wasn’t even really a term then

[wraith mantle]

his death was pretty tragic, it delivered on that front

[shadow python]

It wasn't? Shanks beat him up carried him to elbaf and then tied him to a tree

[keen quiver]

Let him dm you

[sweet anvil]

I feel like imu has to leave elbaf though

[leaden rivet]

Testing his limits

[pine ridge]

that what does it matter how many people attack you. if you're so good and strong you should be able to make friends to fight with you

[sage temple]

How is Loki getting Domi'd likely at all

[gloomy tree]

i mean

[frigid gulch]

thankful in death

[frail kindle]

Swipe texting go brrrr

[wraith mantle]

my goat

[shadow python]

We need a threat and if Rocks can't beat Imu Luffy isn't doing it right now either

[wet condor]

Didn't his GOAT get Reversi'd?

[sweet anvil]

You believe Loki inherited rocks will and is the rocks of this generation

[wraith mantle]

not with the weak ass crew he has anyways

[leaden rivet]

You’ve been spending weeks spamming how they parallel each other, this is where you draw the line?

[frigid gulch]

He doesn’t accept this parallel

[royal orchid]

https://x.com/saboverse/status/1995175312364384507?t=OrXMlXDposfe5N8GtcDOPw&s=19

millie (@saboverse)

the thought of shanks giving his hat to uta for the time he was away in mary geoise

X · Nov 30, 2025, 4:57 PM

[sweet anvil]

The only way I see him not being domi reversid is if he’s immune

[shadow python]

The crew doesn't matter. Garp Roger Big Mom Kaido and Rocks all went at it together and couldn't stop Imu she's invincible

[wraith mantle]

this flashback is so fucking epic man, rocks, garp, harald, shanks, loki, ida

[sweet anvil]

Which Socrates thinks I’m pretty sure

[urban lodge]

What about the parallel of Loki and Rocks both killing a bunch of their family members

[sage temple]

His goat didn't have a Legendary DF, Special eyes, or experience fighting Abyss-powered opponents

[frigid gulch]

Imu’s hax seem to be beyond any haki

[wraith mantle]

it has to be the best flashback of the series

[urban lodge]

Lol

[wraith mantle]

dragon

[leaden rivet]

Just listing characters lol

[wraith mantle]

lol

[vital heart]

Hi guys - i got a notice from Chrissy and Glex and Lisa saying I can post it

[wet condor]

I just had to say it

[sage temple]

Same with Kaido, he didn't get Reversi'd

[wraith mantle]

you are 20 yo act your age goddamit

[honest garden]

I figured TCB's would be more accurate to the word. Viz often takes liberties to adapt meaning to the west, which I know TCB would be torn to shreds for doing

[wraith mantle]

stop attention seeking on discord

[keen quiver]

Socrates loves thinking rocks is his dad

[pine ridge]

I dont think he'll be domi reversid. even rocks only got dr'd cause imu threatened his family and friends. loki has none

[frigid gulch]

What Reversi

[royal orchid]

this flashback is so fucking epic man, [storyline], [character interactions], [characters]

[vital heart]

Schedule for the rest of the year!

[sweet anvil]

Hajrudin

He loves him deep down

[gloomy tree]

its the most likely schedule yeah

just the usual

[brittle basin]

Disgusting!

[honest garden]

Fuck I fucking hate fucking Christmas

[vital heart]

I will not translate chapter 1169 as that's during my finals week. I will be translating 1168 though.

[leaden rivet]

Girl you did not need to do all that just to post a schedule

[tranquil blade]

2 chapters left this year...

[wraith mantle]

is there a flashback better than this one so far?

[sage temple]

Blackbeard parallels Rocks as well but when I say Blackbeard should get Domi'd it's a hot take suddenly

[keen quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/never-say-that-shit-gif-13120296349982019792

[urban lodge]

Most flashbacks in the series

[honest garden]

Best of luck for your finals, Josh

[leaden rivet]

Just wasted their time

[vital heart]

My friend, I can do whatever I want in this free world.

[sage temple]

I said "under the cirumstances of a 1v1" this is still irrelevant

[honest garden]

I get super intense recency bias for flashbacks

[tranquil blade]

The Grinch if it was written by the hazbin hotel writers:

[pine ridge]

does he?

[icy wolf]

3 more chapters of this flashback is my prediction

[iron oriole]

Can't wait for everyone to complain about 3 week break etc because we get the chapter early

[urban lodge]

Probably easier to list the flashbacks that aren't better

[wraith mantle]

thats tfair

[sweet anvil]

Blackbeard isn’t on elbaf but if he was to be on the same island as imu it would be a possibility

[keen quiver]

Getting clapped by the schedule

[urban lodge]

Which is just like... Kaido's

[sweet anvil]

Trust

[keen quiver]

We are not getting out of this till January

[wraith mantle]

list better flashback than this one (as a whole, dont tunnel vision on your GV hate)

[wet condor]

Bare min lol

[keen quiver]

Nolan

[tranquil blade]

Imu was right

[wraith mantle]

thats a goated one yeah

[sweet anvil]

I liked this flashback outside of 2 chapters of GV

[ocean totem]

You're wrong but please go on

[leaden rivet]

Robin, Ace, and Law flashback are just outright better

[urban lodge]

Sanji 1, Sanji 2, Nami, Brook, Robin, Oden, Kuma, Law, Cora, Doffy, Noland Calgara

[keen quiver]

I'm wrong or someone else bean ? Nolan pretty goated

[dense rapids]

sanji lol

[ocean totem]

^

[frigid gulch]

I mean if you’re a major Rocks fan you’ll probably rank it pretty high at least

[sweet anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/airball-nba-brick-gif-15266795546092124798

[frigid gulch]

[wraith mantle]

Sanji 1? really?

[urban lodge]

Yes

[dense rapids]

this is the best flashback in one piece and we're not even done

[sage temple]

I said Loki is a successful, kinder version of Xebec in that he has a legendary DF, Potential to awaken the Galleila giants, and the same will as Davy had

[shadow python]

Cyborg Sanjis durability is unmatched but he's not very strong. Sorta like Marco

[urban lodge]

Though the Harald stuff is very good

[leaden rivet]

Remove Shakky, limit rocks screen time by half, show Roger and Rocks having a rivalry, much more Harald. And this is a peak flashback.

[sweet anvil]

What ?

[wraith mantle]

what 😭

[urban lodge]

I am looking forward to more of it

[dense rapids]

remove shakky and this is the best flashback in manga history

[shadow python]

Shaky was vitally important

[tranquil blade]

So change the entire flashback

[ocean totem]

That's right I said it

[leaden rivet]

Removing Shakky is like 90% of it

Rocks really just shouldn’t have been that prominent

[wraith mantle]

shakky stuff was mid icl

[dense rapids]

filler

[sweet anvil]

How can I be wrong about my opinion 😭

[frigid gulch]

Is it a hot take to say Oden’s ain’t better

[sage temple]

Yeah I know I'm talking about if he was. Also this is irrelevant, I'm saying just because someone parallels someone else doesn't mean they face the same tradgedies. Especially since Luffy parallels Joyboy yet Luffy is expected to win while Joyboy failed

[ocean totem]

If you've gotta ask, you can't afford it.

[vital heart]

Disagree

[wraith mantle]

i hope it serves a purpose later on

[leaden rivet]

Not in piratefolk lol

[vital heart]

Shakky was an amazing part of the flashback.

[dense rapids]

noland flashback better than oden's

[sweet anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-just-typing-shit-bro-just-typing-shit-gif-18336060238854257551

[lofty fern]

Very interesting. I can see why you did it, though I do think Abyssal sounds better since deep-deep does sound like its out of a kid's story book, but you guys can decide which to adopt. I probably will keep to Abyssal though.

[wraith mantle]

i think oden's flashback is good but this one has been better so far

[frigid gulch]

I’m saying I don’t think Oden’s is better than this one

[opaque jewel]

What did Shakky do or add to the story that was amazing

[urban lodge]

Honestly the Roger laughed spread by itself already makes Oden's better

[sage temple]

I said Loki wasn't a Davy, he just had the same will. You don't have to be directly related to someone to possess the same idea

[frigid gulch]

But there are a decent few better

[leaden rivet]

I don’t know if I’d call odens flashback good but it’s far better than this one

[lofty fern]

My favorite part. Loved Shakky and Ray 🥰

[sweet anvil]

No lmao

[leaden rivet]

But ever since rocks died these chapters are a bit better

[pulsar timber]

This channel is misery

[shadow python]

If Shakky wasn't there Roger wouldn't have gone. No Roger means no Garp. The God valley incident would have ended with the complete defeat of Rocks with him as the slave of Imu.

Also BB would have died

[sage temple]

[sweet anvil]

Outside of the Roger wb stuff odens backstory wasn’t great imo

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X · Nov 30, 2025, 11:30 PM

[wraith mantle]

fr? i thought the romance stuff was a bit meh

[leaden rivet]

Part of it is I just don’t gaf about oden ig

Never really felt anything for him

[wraith mantle]

this discord aint a free world

[leaden rivet]

Don’t think the flashback was bad tho

[vital heart]

Yeah that's fair. I think Stephen's thinking was that Abyssal is "close enough" to deep deep to be a valid substitution and it ties into the OTHER concept of the Abyss in OP that we've been introduced to recently

[opaque jewel]

Ok but he could’ve just written it so that Roger came due to a more intense rivalry with Rocks

[leaden rivet]

Because it was written to be that way, it can be written to be different

[opaque jewel]

like Oda is writing this story it’s not like he HAD to add Shakky or none of it makes sense, it made total sense before she was there when we saw in Kuma’s backstory that they all descended on Ginny’s signal talking about treasure.

[leaden rivet]

Roger could come solely cause he heard hella treasure was there

[runic dock]

Meek i need to talk to you about yall making garp say kay vs what viz put “I know”

[leaden rivet]

You don’t need to write a shitty macguffin to make it work

[sweet anvil]

My point he doesn’t have the same tragedy he ends up being freed from the domi reversi showing that unlike the GV incident history isn’t repeating

[dense rapids]

[runic dock]

Make sure to never do that again

[urban lodge]

Oh yeah how could I forget Chopper's

[lofty fern]

Rocks would have gotten DRd either way the moment he got hit with the tentacles. Imu doesn't need your permission. Loki also does have family, part of this flashback is to reconcile Loki and Hajrudin

[urban lodge]

Probably still the peak of Chopper's entire character

[vital heart]

We had like 4 options: Alright, I know, Okay, and Kay. It's just that we went with the one you like the least.

[dense rapids]

only thing I like about GoonValley is the tiktok memes

[vital heart]

Kay.

[sage temple]

Nothing supports Loki getting Domi'd in the first place

[dense rapids]

those had me dying

[frigid gulch]

idr if they announced billions of beris were on the line

But if they didn’t

[runic dock]

You chose literally the worst option of them

[latent hamlet]

Didn't ginny say through the snail "MASSIVE LOOT HERE. COME GET IT"

[frigid gulch]

Pirates would flock to it

[runic dock]

Do better

[leaden rivet]

I mean all the strawhat flashbacks are the peak of their entire character except like Zoro/Luffy and Sanji lol

[frigid gulch]

Though they already did

[sage temple]

Okay then if Loki gets Domi'd everyone on Elbaph does

[shadow python]

I thought both of Sanjis flashbacks were moving

[latent hamlet]

Bruh like every pirate that came to god valley came cuz they heard theres a fuckton of loot

An alleged billion beri per chest?

[runic dock]

Yes

[wraith mantle]

what do yall think about the garp section of this flashback?

[urban lodge]

Hmm yeah that's probably true sadly

[wraith mantle]

or the garp aspect

[sage temple]

🤝 🤝

[shadow python]

Confused mostly

[runic dock]

Yes

[dense rapids]

only person who will be immune is luffy/blackbeard and even i doubt that still

[leaden rivet]

Kay

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/stare-disappointed-mad-idris-elba-stringer-bell-gif-17916385

[urban lodge]

Garp was pretty good

[sage temple]

What rarity fruit does Luffy have

[shadow python]

He had to have known about what they were doing but it seems he was being willfully ignorant

[wraith mantle]

tcb follower 💔

[leaden rivet]

I know

[dense rapids]

nika

[vital heart]

Can I make a prediction?

[dense rapids]

who loki thinks he is

[runic dock]

No

[wraith mantle]

how about dragon

[shadow python]

Mythical zoan is the rarest type

[lofty fern]

We don't get it enough. I'm not moved by action stuff most of the time unless there is emotion or lore behind it. My favorite part of the Roger/Garp/Rocks chapter was actually Dragon

[honest garden]

Garp stuff is fine. People don't get upset enough at Roger for the same things they hate Garp for (which is not to say people should hate Roger)

Just BIAS

[opaque jewel]

Mostly confirms what we already thought about him tbh, I respect his position but I think ultimately Oda is writing him to be well-intentioned but wrong in his actions.

[leaden rivet]

Dragón is like the only good thing about this flashback

[urban lodge]

Pretty great

[sage temple]

He has a legendary fruit.
Loki is also the only other person in the entire series to currently possess ANOTHER legendary devil fruit

[wraith mantle]

loki is pretty great as well

[leaden rivet]

Mushy wtf are you talking about

[urban lodge]

Dragon and Garp were the best things about God Valley

[frigid gulch]

What about Sengoku

[lofty fern]

I think that is the general idea

[frigid gulch]

[leaden rivet]

Why would people get mad at Roger for the same things as Garp?

[wraith mantle]

dragon loki garp harald

[leaden rivet]

Roger is a pirate

Garp is a marine

[opaque jewel]

What does Roger do that Garp also engages in?

[dense rapids]

what does that have to do with domi reversi?

[sweet anvil]

I feel like Ussops peak was at water 7s / enies lobby same with Robin and the “ I want to live” bit

[lofty fern]

One of those things is true

[sage temple]

👍 Rip Loki

[wraith mantle]

we even got some shanks/shamrocks breadcrumbs

[frigid gulch]

Rip Loki indeed

[vital heart]

MEEK PREDICTION TIME....

Punishment: TBD

Prediction: Chapter 1168 will end on THIS panel. But with more context, more dialogue, and more detail. No silhouette even.

[shadow python]

I liked Usopp in thriller bark

[honest garden]

Not saving slaves

[shadow python]

He was just good in general pre time skip

[leaden rivet]

Garp sneak

[sage temple]

You just said Luffy would be immune to Domi Reversi? Why do you think that?

[leaden rivet]

He’s a pirate

[wraith mantle]

and a little bit of garling

[sage temple]

Because of his DF right?

[vital heart]

I need a staff to hold me on this one.

[lofty fern]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-simpsons-krusty-the-clown-homer-simpson-clowns-gif-13052591347349595220

[dense rapids]

because he is nika

[sage temple]

Rip Luffy as well

[wet condor]

Garp looked cooler than Roger during the FB lol

[leaden rivet]

He’s not yapping about justice and shit

[dense rapids]

loki df isnt nika

[sage temple]

Yeah, his devil fruit

[sage temple]

They are both legendary Devil Fruits

[dense rapids]

nika is immune

[wet condor]

Neither is Garp tbf lol

[dense rapids]

not loki df

[solid stone]

who made your name joshua 67676767676767

[sage temple]

Based off of what

[wraith mantle]

this flashback touched on so many great characters its honestly insane

[vital heart]

Arsal lol

[latent hamlet]

I like how some people are so overly concerned with slaves in OP nowadays

Like 95% of people in verse dont care

[sage temple]

Loki's Devil Fruit is the only fruit labeled legendary other than Nika

[sweet anvil]

Based off us not knowing what it is

[lofty fern]

Maybe...though we have to get through Ida's death first

[wraith mantle]

was nika even called legendary

[sage temple]

If you don't know what it is then you wouldn't know if it's immune or not

[dense rapids]

no

[leaden rivet]

Definitely by intention

[wet condor]

By the Gorosei basically

[shadow python]

Roger had no way of knowing about the hunting games and was under no obligation to protect civilians even if he was.

Garp made the people his greatest priority by nature of his profession and ignored this semi annual tradition and was going to ignore this one too except he heard his boyfriend was coming and high tailed it over there.

[wraith mantle]

it was called mythical and the most ridiculous power

[wet condor]

"That fruit is legend now. Even to us!"

Something to that effect

[dense rapids]

and blackbeard was called the most evil

[latent hamlet]

Even if Roger knew about the slaves in god valley
Why would they care

[leaden rivet]

[dense rapids]

i think only loki was called legendary

[sage temple]

Yes it was. By the Gorosei

[wraith mantle]

hm i see

[sage temple]

??

[opaque jewel]

genuinely bizarre the further we get into the story that like NOBODY on the crew had any idea what celestial dragons were when they showed up on Sabaody. Like I get Luffy because when it comes to the world around him he’s barely sentient but fucking Zoro has no idea what’s going on?

[sweet anvil]

If we only believe 1 fruit out of the like 800 in one piece to be immune it’s more plausible to assume Lokis unknown df isn’t immune the legendary status isn’t enough to conclude it’s immune

[ocean totem]

They all knew about the games

[wet condor]

I didn't remember this

[lofty fern]

They never did explain what happened to Shakky's power. That woman commanded the world with her face alone, and now not even Sanji takes notice. What happened?

[opaque jewel]

aging

[wet condor]

[wraith mantle]

do yall think luffy would care about the hunting games?

[dense rapids]

the gorosei said nika fruit was elgenary?

[lofty fern]

She doesn't age

[sage temple]

Yet we also know 2 fruits, including Nika, out of the like 800 in One Piece are legendary

[shadow python]

Hunting games weren't common knowledge if it was then the residents of said game wouldn't have hope of escape

[latent hamlet]

The problem is CDs are only relevant to countries that are connected
Most of the SHs were on some secluded backwater island

[opaque jewel]

only if one of the slaves gives him food

[wet condor]

Plot device

[leaden rivet]

She became a housewife

[wraith mantle]

yeah but if no food was given

[shadow python]

Government sanctioned genocide would cause mass panic

[ocean totem]

It's not about common knowledge, the leak that leads them all there talks about the games

[wraith mantle]

would luffy give a fuck

[ocean totem]

They all knew before showing up

[lofty fern]

She is totally not that

[pine ridge]

I doubt any df just gives you an automatic immunity

[leaden rivet]

Lighten up

[latent hamlet]

He'd give a fuck in the sense of "man you guys are being dicks"

[sage temple]

"Legendary" is literally being a "legend"

[wet condor]

You should know this by now HPQ. Once a Macguffin has served its purpose, it's irrelevant

[shadow python]

Roger knew about this game and attended. Garp knew about previous ones and did nothing

[sage temple]

"Legendary" is the status of being a "Legend"

[opaque jewel]

nah he’d prolly slap one of them too like he did Vivi because he’s like “you can’t give up and be hunted you should fight back”

[dense rapids]

theyre not calling it legendary?

[lofty fern]

I'm light

[sweet anvil]

There’s also fruits like the dark fruit which is the strongest logia though I don’t understand that to be immune so just having a hyped up fruit isn’t enough until we at least know it’s ability imo

[shadow python]

Except it seems like it's supposed to be inferred he didn't know about it after all?

[leaden rivet]

Yeah pretty much music. She went from being an world economy stopping beauty lol to no one giving af about her lol

[sage temple]

"Legendary" is the status of being a "Legend". If you can't understand this then I'm not continuing this

[wraith mantle]

roger only came to god valley to goon

[latent hamlet]

Luffy wouldnt save slaves cuz its the right thing to do
He'd do it cuz he just at the time does not fuck with the oppressors (or if a slave helps him)

[lofty fern]

😭 poor Shakky

[leaden rivet]

Omg Shakky got kidnapped? Now I can’t go to work

[dense rapids]

not the same

[sweet anvil]

If we find out Lokis fruit ability and it sounds likely that it’s immune I’ll agree with you

[shadow python]

In any case Garp and Roger are held to different standards

[latent hamlet]

Tbf i think she also just stopped being active

[sage temple]

The Dark Dark fruit isn't proven to be immune. So until then you don't really know

[leaden rivet]

She’s so bad she practically caused the Great Depression on an unbelievable scale

[dense rapids]

if anything the dark dark fruit is the only one thats immune because it negates the devil's power

[wraith mantle]

she is helen of troy

[leaden rivet]

And most people had only ever seen drawings of her face

[sage temple]

"Legendary" is the adjective version of legend

[tranquil blade]

You know I used to think Shakky was cool

[shadow python]

I wonder why Shakky is seen as like no big deal now. Is it because of the haircut?

[wraith mantle]

is helen of troy a true story or fiction

[leaden rivet]

Lost their fucking minds over a piece of paper and a face

[wet condor]

I thnk it's accepted Trojan war happened

[sage temple]

How do you know Imu has a Devil Fruit power?

[latent hamlet]

There's a decent chance some believe she died
Given how newspapers are the only info source, a lack of shakky info might indicate death/retirement

[wet condor]

I don't know if Helen of Troy existed

[leaden rivet]

And Shakky is drawn like the most basic bitch op character ever to rub salt in the wound

[wraith mantle]

yeah so its pretty reasonable to have a woman so bad the whole world goes to shit when she gets kidnapped

[dense rapids]

devil not devil fruit

[leaden rivet]

The world should’ve ended then

[wet condor]

Ruin have been found that archaelogist believe was Troy

[hasty sable]

Nah he would

[leaden rivet]

If they thought she died

[sage temple]

Wait what where does it say it negates the devil's power???

[leaden rivet]

They wouldn’t just move on

[dense rapids]

when he fights ace?

[wraith mantle]

oda executed the trope badly tho lol

[wet condor]

The thing is, the war wasn't even really started over her being beautiful. She was the queen of sparta

[dense rapids]

suck int he devil power

[wraith mantle]

like, this shit was so ass

[dense rapids]

whatevrr he said

[lofty fern]

Well, also that's just the name we have in English for that part of the sea. Abyssal doesn't have to be the same as Abyss, so you can get away with it that way

[wraith mantle]

she was kidnapped because she was pretty

or taken

[wet condor]

"The face that launched a thousand ships" implies that her beauty is what caused the war, but that wasn't in the Illiad

[honest garden]

Yeah, I think people should understand marines are similarly self motivated and that's ok

[opaque jewel]

this is probably my most unpopular one piece opinion but I genuinely don’t like Luffy all that much and it’s because of how uninterested he is in the world and other people’s existences unless they help him in some way
I don’t think he’s a bad character but like. he’s not my fav on the crew by a long shot

[honest garden]

Still profoundly net positive

[ocean totem]

This is why he can take fruits

[shadow python]

Oh thats good so BB can un reversi people

[dense rapids]

[ocean totem]

I'm ilke 75% sure

[leaden rivet]

You can’t claim to fight for justice and let shit like that slide, it’s different when Roger never pretended to be that guy

Roger was hyped up as a guy that wiped out an entire army because his friend was being made fun of

[wet condor]

She was entranced and basically forced to fall in love with Paris because Aphrodite made her. She was kidnapped, but she's was the queen of a nation. Even if she wasn't beautiful, that's just grounds for war

[lofty fern]

I'm kinda sad we skipped over most of Shanks and Shamrock's life, I hope we get more

[dense rapids]

I think we’ll get that in shamrock flashback

[leaden rivet]

He was never a good guy nor did he pretend to care about justice and shit. Garp is not only serving the marines but trying to get his family and friends to do so as well.

He advertises the marines as the right path but turns a blind eye

[dense rapids]

Probably won’t be much tho

[lofty fern]

Like where is Shanks' "hometown"?

[leaden rivet]

It’s not even close to the same

[wraith mantle]

oh i see, i thought Paris kidnapped her because he was enamoured by her beauty that he couldn't let go

[shadow python]

God valley

[ocean totem]

Somewhere in the West Blue

[sage temple]

Is this the fruit Rocks was looking for?

[vital heart]

God Valley

[dense rapids]

we dont know

[leaden rivet]

How did they know shanks name was shanks anyway?

[sage temple]

Probably is though right

[ocean totem]

They probably named him

[dense rapids]

rocks didnt know about imu power

[wet condor]

He was. But Aphrodite made Helen fall in love with Paris due to him choosing her as the fairest of the goddesses among her, Athena and Hera or something like that.

[leaden rivet]

His mother named him

[ocean totem]

Or just baby tags y'know

His mother ain't shit Roger named him

Fight me

[leaden rivet]

Unless they got the same name?

[wraith mantle]

uh I see I see

[dense rapids]

blackbeard couldve changed the plan and sought a fruit that stopped the devil power

[wraith mantle]

aphrodite a bitch

[ocean totem]

Nah he was probably wearing a medallion or something though

[wet condor]

So she went with Paris "willingly" but not really

[urban lodge]

His first word was his own name

[dense rapids]

because we know the gura wasnt the other fruit either

[lofty fern]

That's not the one he got sake from. Also, how would Shanks even know this? I'm still wondering how he found out about his CD family?

[shadow python]

Was Rocks a devil fruit user?

[opaque jewel]

I used to think that but she (or, uh, Venus I guess) was goated in the Aeneid

[dense rapids]

naw

\

[wet condor]

Never read Aeneid. Was thinking about getting this bookset that's p much a trilogy

[shadow python]

It's hard to imagine Big Mom Whitebeard and Shiki all following behind a normal man. But that just goes to show Rocks was no normal man

[sage temple]

WOAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-gif-1878760417600646737

It says Devil FRUITS not the Devil's power my point still stands we don't know if he's immune to Imu or not

[pine ridge]

isnt this a bad translation?

[urban lodge]

It's Viz, but early Viz can be a little weird so it's probably worth it to check Stephen's translation

[sage temple]

It's officials

[urban lodge]

What chapter is that?

[sage temple]

441

[urban lodge]

I'll check

[sage temple]

This is officials

[dense rapids]

japanese says devilmpower

i can pull it up

[sage temple]

Pull it up

[shadow python]

Thats too bad. We almost had Ace lose in chapt 444

[pine ridge]

https://x.com/sandman_AP/status/1987463020399014347?s=20

sandman (@sandman_AP)

Despite this being a crucial line, Viz official translation is not accurate. My translation: The darkness within me drags in another force, the power of the devil itself !! [ If Imu is truly a devil, then Blackbeard might be able to nullify that power.😍]

X · Nov 9, 2025, 10:11 AM

[dense rapids]

^

[pine ridge]

this has both english and japanese panels

[sage temple]

Hmm idk I'm trusting Viz on this one

I need to see how he concluded that

[dense haven]

bbfans getting desperate

[sage temple]

Oda's wife knows nothing

That's agenda

[dense rapids]

no its not

[keen quiver]

I'm not even here

[dense rapids]

tht panel been discussd so much

[urban lodge]

Yeah no that's accurate lol

[sage temple]

I'm trusting Viz over that

[leaden rivet]

This is going to be retconned to be about Imu. Trust me.

[keen quiver]

I don't need to do shit oda gasses blackbeard for me

[dense rapids]

he syas devil's power

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/office-michael-scott-thank-you-gif-5278681

[leaden rivet]

Soooory spice we’re not all lucky to be fans of the authors self insert Mary sue 😔

[urban lodge]

Early Viz can be weird but I definitely trust Stephen

And he translated it the same

[keen quiver]

Early viz missed the haki line

Which is always funny to me in hindsight

[dense rapids]

wliterally

[keen quiver]

Blackbeard even brings it up during impel down

[sage temple]

Yeah

So I'd say Blackbeard's immunity is inconclusive

My point still stands

[frigid gulch]

BB says akuma no chikara

[sage temple]

Loki and Luffy's fruit out of the many are the only ones called "legendary"

[frigid gulch]

Literally the devil’s power

[sage temple]

Speak to Viz

[dense rapids]

^

[ocean totem]

Pretty sure the Goro Goro was called legendary too

[dense rapids]

bro arguing with the actual juapanese

[sage temple]

I don't know about that

Can I get a panel

[honest garden]

Did you know Viz's translation about him being 3 people is inaccurate? Greg has since corrected it to mean Blackbeard has three souls and can absorb 3 powers and he will get the cerberus fruit

[keen quiver]

Oda is gonna use the retcon no mi to say the yami has another name or is legendary

[ocean totem]

i'm guessing Kaido's was too tbh, at least Yamato's for sure was

[frigid gulch]

Having said that..

Imu’s power is called the “Power of God”

[keen quiver]

We know that's not god

[frigid gulch]

Although it’s all about demons

[sage temple]

No chance

[keen quiver]

The celestials are very fanciful with how they talk

[urban lodge]

Well... Retcon is very possible but I'm sure he was referring to the power within devil fruits as he goes on to explain

[sage temple]

Bean I need a panel man

[frigid gulch]

I’m sure BB will be able to counter it anyway

[ocean totem]

They were both guardian deities

[frigid gulch]

In some way

[sage temple]

So they were gods

Was the fruit itself called legendary

?

[dense rapids]

this is what she said

[sage temple]

Because thats the case for Loki and Luffy's

[leaden rivet]

Why did I read this as “Gege has since corrected it” lol

[sage temple]

Yeah not legendary

[ocean totem]

I want to say Yamato's was

[mighty shell]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-yachty-censored-not-drake-tech-support-gif-8658410013845332703

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-sweating-key-and-peele-gif-13836847

Let me win here

[lilac harness]

https://tenor.com/view/invulnerable-gif-22484955

[leaden rivet]

Kaido has the best devil fruit we’ve seen so far, so I wouldn’t be surprised if it was legendary

[tranquil blade]

I mean Yamato and Kaido's fruits are both based off of legends if that's what you mean

[wraith mantle]

yamato is immune to imu

lets go

[sage temple]

Yeah but the fruit itself

Has it been called legendary

?

[wraith mantle]

yamato bros rejoicing

[frigid gulch]

Mythicals are fairly great

[sage temple]

Because Loki and Luffy are the only fruits I've seen that have been called legend/legendary

[tranquil blade]

They're like the best fruit you could find

[leaden rivet]

Orochi had one right? Don’t remember if it was particularly good

[tranquil blade]

Yeah

[frigid gulch]

Ye

[wraith mantle]

if luffy is immune to imu's domi reversi just because he ate a good fruit

[tranquil blade]

It's good he just sucks

[sage temple]

Let me see a panel guys

[wraith mantle]

this shit will be so ass

[leaden rivet]

Devon also, hers as a fun ability

[sage temple]

[ocean totem]

Just mythical

[frigid gulch]

Orochi was defo a piss poor user

[sage temple]

YES

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-ateez-woosanfleur-reactions-drake-screaming-gif-23885772

[urban lodge]

Orochi's fruit can probably be pretty good in the right hands

[ocean totem]

I think they call Ace's fruit legendary

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/key-and-peele-obama-handshake-gif-14751410

[urban lodge]

Idk if it has any special properties besides the multiple heads

[frigid gulch]

Same with Onyudo I think

[tranquil blade]

Yeah I mean if you get your head cut off in human form you dont die at least

That's not half bad

[sage temple]

Until further notice, Loki and Luffy are the ONLY DFs in the entire series with the legend/legendary label

Peak

[tranquil blade]

if you like stab them in the stomach they might just still die though

[frigid gulch]

Do the heads regenerate on each transformation

[wraith mantle]

how would yall rate kuma's flashback

above oden's?

[leaden rivet]

Yeah pretty good

[urban lodge]

Slightly below

[wraith mantle]

how about noland's

[leaden rivet]

Kuma was mostly fine other than the scene where his dad died, more of a nitpick tho

[tranquil blade]

Dont think so

[ionic palm]

real funny Loki's df is apparently "legendary" when its probably a fruit that allows him to shapeshift into anything like in mythology where Loki's main trait was his shapeshifting ability that can let him change into anything including size :d

[urban lodge]

I think below too

[wraith mantle]

you really like oden's fb huh

[urban lodge]

Yeah it's pretty good

[sage temple]

Well still nobody's fruit has been called legendary except Loki and Luffy's

I think Oda made sure of this but idk

Weird coincidence

[urban lodge]

I like characters like Oden and Harald

[wet condor]

I need to use more

[frigid gulch]

Woxy

[wet condor]

I'm cracking up

[sage temple]

Me too I've been alternating through all the keks

I use these the least

[leaden rivet]

Harald is fine, oden is meh

Harald is just a more believable character

Oden is just a dumbass I suppose

[tranquil blade]

Idk Harald is being prettyy dumb this chapter

[leaden rivet]

He’s a believable dumbass

[tranquil blade]

Like it gets tuah point

[frigid gulch]

Harald’s boot licking is supreme this chap

[leaden rivet]

Oden is just really stupid and really annoying

[stone terrace]

harald brought his demise upon himself

oden got put in a fucked situation

[sage temple]

Does Loki count as a Hakiman for killing Harald since he was probably powered by the Abyss

[stone terrace]

could have navigated out of it yeah but he didnt invite it

[leaden rivet]

And also his situation is partly self inflicted

[sage temple]

He had no DF or lightning hammer

[frigid gulch]

Your wish is my command

[lofty fern]

So sad 😢
though screw Garling, Shamrock

[stone terrace]

leave garling alone

[sage temple]

Can't wait for the castle incident

[lofty fern]

I'm sure we'll see

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/leave-her-alone-crying-sad-meme-gif-16919280

[wraith mantle]

i think shamrock is potentially gonna be a great character

[dense rapids]

or the nika fruit was stolen and loki has no legendary df at all

[sage temple]

Yeah we probably will

[tranquil blade]

This is good

[native seal]

nah unc was it good

[leaden rivet]

From what little we see I like shamrock already

[tranquil blade]

leave the slave killer superterrorist alone? I think not

[blazing depot]

Shiki irrelevant again award 🏅

[frigid gulch]

In this case, he probably just ate some fruit when he was sailing

[sage temple]

Yeah but Rocks wanted a fruit that was supposedly perfect for Harald. This would likely be the Elbaphian fruit. And Rocks doesn't seem to even know what Nika is. So your entire argument depending on this scenario makes it all that less likely

[urban lodge]

Yeah, I'm actually invested in the Figarland storyline, which is something I never thought I'd say

[steel stirrup]

Hell yea ts was lit bro

[leaden rivet]

Yeah leave the champion of god valley alone

[lofty fern]

Let's hope it turns out better than the Acohol village guys that you were promoting last time as a Loki feat

[wraith mantle]

big bro cares about his little bro

[shadow python]

Do the elbafians want Loki to die? I feel like there were easier ways to do it if he was a devil fruit eater

[blazing depot]

Not even an emperor dog just doing turf wars with that fat fuck Wang

[wraith mantle]

yeah every single member of that family is interesting, even the mother

[leaden rivet]

Shanks acting is so cringe this chapter

[sage temple]

It kind of is

[shadow python]

Shamrock seems like such a sweet guy here

[dense rapids]

he would know it by gomu gomu

[sage temple]

Ussop can't do that

[blazing depot]

QUIET GIANT PEASANT. DO NOT SPEAK DOWN ON ME

[tranquil blade]

He is tryharding a little but he's decent at it

[sage temple]

I doubt he'd be kept in the dark about a fruit name almost everyone knows about

[leaden rivet]

Genuine porn level acting, idk how they bought that shit

[urban lodge]

I thought it was funny because they actually believe it

[stone terrace]

because thats how they actually are

look at his daddy

😭

[tranquil blade]

Also did you notice how even Sommers was shocked that Harald was being such a dog?

[wraith mantle]

harald clocked him as a fake demon

[sage temple]

So still, the whole argument resting on this still makes it that unlikely

[leaden rivet]

He’s not even convincing

[tranquil blade]

This is a little crazy

[sage temple]

So good luck on that theory of Loki not eating Elbaph's fruit

[blazing depot]

I mean in real life people will buy into your grift even if you barely put in effort as long as they agree with your views. For example Tom MacDonald

[sage temple]

[dense rapids]

i wouldnt say unlikely when the timeline matches up perfectly

its 50/50

[shadow python]

Who's that with the heart sign? Is Shamrock in love with his bro?

[urban lodge]

CD fangirls

[frigid gulch]

Some CDs

[dense rapids]

hopefully we get a hint next chapter

[sage temple]

It kind of is since Rocks was literally in the room where Imu was

[dense rapids]

wdym

[sage temple]

I'm sure but Loki eating the Legendary DF is more 70/30 if anything

[dense rapids]

shanmks stole the nika fruit

[wraith mantle]

surely shanks will actually have to "DO" heinous shit to convince people that he is a racist

[sage temple]

Yet Rocks would know the fruit by the Gomu Gomu?

[wraith mantle]

just talk wont be enough

[sage temple]

Also the WG says the Nika fruit has been avoiding them over the years

Passed down the royal line

[tranquil blade]

Okay Shanks isnt the best at acting I will admit

[sage temple]

Each king is at least 2 centuries old

[fallen meteor]

as a sticker...

[sage temple]

Why is there a heart

[dense rapids]

"i smell a rat'"

[sage temple]

Do Shanks and Shamrock love eacother

[wet condor]

I wondered about that lol

[shadow python]

Wait what's the timeline here? Maybe the reason Doffy wasn't allowed back in was because of Shanks pulling a fast one here

[wraith mantle]

cd fan girls

[fallen meteor]

its the cd fan girls

[wet condor]

I guess both Shanks and Shamrock are well loved

[sage temple]

Ohhh

[dense rapids]

buggy is shanks real brother

[wet condor]

Yea

[urban lodge]

Shanks is younger than Doffy

[fallen meteor]

look at the 'eek!'

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/pffttt-7tv-twitch-gif-12963762873218034436

[stone terrace]

garling had the hoes buzzing

[leaden rivet]

I kinda wish we saw a reaction to shanks coming back

[sage temple]

Ohh and the yayy

[stone terrace]

only natural his even more handsome sons do too

[wraith mantle]

shamrock was probably happy to have shanks as a brother

[wet condor]

lmao I forgot about that

So they're all supposed to be handsome fellas it seem

[tranquil blade]

Doffy was rejected like over a decade before this happened

[leaden rivet]

Like how are they so cool about making shanks a cd when he’s been living with filthy lower worlders?

[wraith mantle]

only for shanks to fucking dip a year later

[wraith mantle]

when your dad is the commander of the god knights

[tranquil blade]

It's because his father had rid himself of the celestial dragon status

[blazing depot]

Shanks poisoned Roger theories are back apparently 💀

[shadow python]

Shanks is also a half blood

[wraith mantle]

people dont care

[leaden rivet]

Mihawk x shanks is betttttttter

[tranquil blade]

Shanks never did that so he was allowed back in

[wraith mantle]

doffy's dad was a nobody thats why they never let him back in

[leaden rivet]

Who even decides if you’re allowed back in?

[stone terrace]

shanks cant escape these damn allegations

[dense rapids]

Random CD 😂😂😂

[wet condor]

Me too kind of

[tranquil blade]

The gorosei probably

[mighty shell]

shuggy stocks went crazy with that buggy focus chapter a while back after wano

[urban lodge]

Holy knights are also kinda like judges apparently so them probably

[wet condor]

Like what was Garling, Shamrock and everyone elses reaction

[wraith mantle]

there is probably racism between the CDs themselves

[mighty shell]

i started to see the appeal

[wet condor]

Maybe we'll see it

[dense rapids]

That’s his brother :/

[leaden rivet]

We definitely won’t music

[wet condor]

If Shanks gets a flashback dedicated to himself

[leaden rivet]

Oh Mayhaps

[mighty shell]

damn my fault

[leaden rivet]

In that situation I can see it

[wraith mantle]

not a matter of If lol

he will get one

[dense rapids]

We will see Shanks and Buggy share a cup of Sake before the final war

[leaden rivet]

Shanks life flashing before his eyes as Blackbeard absorbs him to steal his haki

[shadow python]

When are we right now?

[leaden rivet]

And then we can see it

[mighty shell]

november 30th or december 1st depending on timezone

[wraith mantle]

then shanks soul takes over bb's body

[shadow python]

Shouldn't Shanks have his daughter Uta by this point?

[urban lodge]

It would be interesting if Garling is the one who denied Doffy's return but he let his son return

[dense rapids]

“Buggy you must be the one to defeat him… Protect Joy Boy…”

[tranquil blade]

Yeah

[leaden rivet]

It’s kinda insane that you can just seal someone’s haki into weapons. Kinda op.

[digital spear]

final month has started 🐰 🕰️

[frigid gulch]

How did Doffy even find out all that stuff

That brother was bending them to his will

[dense rapids]

Buggy gathering intel on Blackbeard while fighting the WB pirates

[mighty shell]

time to speedrun my new year resolutions

[tranquil blade]

Zoro has been using Oden's haki since Act 2 of Wano

[shell scroll]

Who knows where I can find some vivi art

[leaden rivet]

I really wanted to know if rocks ever slept or if this is a Blackbeard special

[mighty shell]

twitter dot com

[dense rapids]

I think he’s just special

[frigid gulch]

Meet special man

[honest garden]

Shanks is finally becoming interesting....

[mighty shell]

man don't say that

[stone terrace]

i do hope this isnt the last of shanks' adventures in mariejois yeah

he should get more in his own fb

[shadow python]

Bb can't sleep because he sees the God valley incident whenever he closes his eyes

[shell scroll]

How do I even navigate this website like it just shows ai slop

[leaden rivet]

Can blackbeard get knocked out? Have we seen that happen?

[wraith mantle]

i hope the man marked by flame is not some random new character, or a random roger pirate member

[dense rapids]

Blackbeard has altered bloodline

[mighty shell]

that's fair you can try something like pixiv or safebooru

[urban lodge]

It's Bluejam

[shadow python]

Magellan poisoned him and left him for dead but I'm pretty sure BB was still conscious

[tranquil blade]

Maybe for a few seconds

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-why-are-you-laughing-hell-nah-lmao-oh-hell-no-speed-200-pump-gif-1963457475831277187

[leaden rivet]

Cause if he gets knocked out he can just sleep then

[blazing depot]

Pixiv is not safe bro. I’ve seen things you wouldn’t believe

[shadow python]

We don't hype Magellan enough. Guy took down 2 of the four emperors

[dense rapids]

Poison hax

[tranquil blade]

Yeah he's tuff

[shadow python]

Obviously couldn't beat Buggy though

[blazing depot]

Pixiv is like Japanese deviantart lol

[sage temple]

Whats wrong with Pixiv

[dense rapids]

You know what I like this guy

[sage temple]

I go there for fanart

[frigid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/ight-this-guy-gif-13517000966315468948

[tough igloo]

that would be interesting if he can’t get knocked out due to not being able to sleep lol i would’ve thought this attack from WB would at least momentarily KO anybody but not Teach for some reason

[tranquil blade]

There's a fair few commanders who would lose to him

[dense rapids]

Shanks could never

[urban lodge]

Hear me out

Where was he last seen? The burning grey terminal in dawn island

He was never confirmed to be dead

When Luffy leaves Dawn island he runs into a whirlpool

[tranquil blade]

Old ass meme

Could've been made in like 2013

[frigid gulch]

Haki should protect you

[tranquil blade]

It's a lot of poison tho

[frigid gulch]

Maybe not the openings