also-manga

[tough igloo]

I wonder if Shanks family asked him who gave him the scar & if he knew it was a davy clan member .. Teach don’t seem like the type to reveal that to shanks but who knows ..idk how their relationship is lol

[grand flower]

the villains' operations ALWAYS fail because there's an inherent flaw in them

that's what makes them villains

[wet condor]

I would not mind information surviving from Ohara if it was due to something clever by the Oharans

[sturdy steeple]

Within the story, they are not incompetent. They held up for 800 years.
But there’s always a breaking moment. This is where they start doing more mistakes due to their flaws.

[grand flower]

it HAS to backfire at some point

[grand flower]

that undermines it

the fact that the oharans didn't need to do that

[ashen perch]

Throwing them in the lake is clever still

[grand flower]

it's purely the result of the process imu and the elders decided for themselves to follow

it emphasizes that their methods are flawed

no external movement was needed

it failed simply because it was bound to

[lofty fern]

It's actually funny. I think that tekking is the only one who picked up on the inconsistency of the timeline with Fisher tiger, though I'm sure library of ohara will pick it up too.

[ashen perch]

The best they could've done in those circumstances atleast

[hazy echo]

Oh yea Emet is actually purple

[hazy echo]

Idk if that was a thing before

[grand flower]

if it failed because the oharans just outsmarted them, it doesn't convey as well that their methods are inherently flawed

because an operation can be good and another can just be better

[hazy echo]

If we’ve gotten Emet’s color scheme

[grand flower]

this shows it's necessarily flawed

[woeful moth]

its the best... like they are already on fire and will likely all die... all they can do is hope that that will save something

[grand flower]

it's not bad because a better one exists

it's bad because it's bad

[wet condor]

You can flip it around and say praise the ingenuity of the Oharans and go with "if there's a will, there is a way"

[lofty fern]

From the way that shamrock talks about it, I think it actually happened while he was with them. Because he seems to know that it was a wound that needed to be healed pretty soon and it was very recent. It hasn't even fully scabbed over yet

[wet condor]

Well, I'm talking about just writing another scenario in which the Oharans were too clever for the WG

[grand flower]

i think that's less important than showing that these guys are wretched and rotten

the government isn't bad because the oharans are better

[digital spear]

I argued specifically in comparison with the other fuckup that involves Ohara tho

[grand flower]

the government is bad because they are bad

making it a cause and effect with the scholars doesn't convey that

[tough igloo]

damn that’s even more interesting .. Shanks as a god blade encountering a WB pirate .. I wonder since Shanks was god blade like Harald , was he also sent out to deal with pirates

[grand flower]

regardless of what the scholars did, their methods failed

that communicates that their constitution is flawed all on its own

[digital spear]

basically the Holy Knights existence doesnt change much about the Ohara mistake but it does for the Fisher Tiger one

[woeful moth]

that's how i read it... Shamrock is very concerned and it feels like he knows directly when Shanks received the wound...

[lofty fern]

I'm thinking what probably happened was that the holy knights went a mission and it involved the WhiteBeard pirates and something happened between Blackbeard and Shanks during that mission. While that was the first time that Harold had met Shanks as a god blade, it obviously wasn't his first day in the holy Land. He'd been there for a while. And that wound was pretty fresh cuz it was still bandaged and only the slightest hit from Fisher tiger caused it to start bleeding again. This would suggest that it's only been a few days at most. It's a scar but it's not a deep wound.

[dense rapids]

It’s called Shangara in the official as well

Obviously connected to Shandora

The theory that the names of the WG locations are just altered names of things could be true

Marie Geoise - Merry Joy
Impel Down - Empire Dawn
Shangara - Shandora

[lofty fern]

I think they just sound similar. They're not connected

[dense rapids]

Obviously connected

[lofty fern]

Uh huh, are tomatoes and potatoes connected simply because they sound similar?

[prisma yacht]

[dense rapids]

Shangara (シャンドラ)

Shandora (シャンガラ)

[pine ridge]

no but tomatoes and tomatoes are

[dense rapids]

God’s Gaurds of Skypeia

[digital spear]

Yes theyre food

[dense rapids]

God Knights of Holy Land

[lofty fern]

Yes, they sound similar. All katakana tells you is how they sound

[digital spear]

Tomatoes and potatoes are Solanaceae, Shangara and Shandora are places associated with god

[tranquil blade]

Yep

[indigo yacht]

I do think there’s some connection there but idk

[digital spear]

There is

[prisma yacht]

U can clearly see the green

[tough igloo]

bro go save your little sister & stop watching TV lol

[digital spear]

HPQ you genuinely made me realize Tomatoes and Potatoes are pretty similar lol

Lesson: dont always dismiss One Piece theories! They are fun!

[wet condor]

I wonder what's the common root there

[hot cairn]

duuuude Joyboy’s voice in the anime

[wet condor]

or suffix

what does -toes mean

[hot cairn]

@grand flower you’re cooked my guy

it’s not Luffy’s voice

[grand flower]

it's luffy's va from the ova and still sounds like an aged luffy now

[digital spear]

Well theyre part of feet which are on the ground and Tomatoes and Potatoes grow on the ground

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/tarantino-cannes-bow-batusi-gif-26197432

[digital spear]

W Quentin...

[stone terrace]

Kata is aura farming

[tough igloo]

Emeth said Luffy looks just like Joyboy, Joyboy got a Luffy VA .. y’all better prepare yourselves for the obvious … Monkey Ds being descendants of joyboy

[stone terrace]

The caesar incident did so much damage to his reputation

[grand flower]

shandora bell has engravings of a monkey wearing a straw hat

luffy has always been joy boy

[rich hornet]

Luffy looks like Roger too. Not buying it

[hot cairn]

yoo it’s Luffy VA from the OVA? That’s pretty cool

but nah it doesn’t sound like Luffy at all

[grand flower]

yup. now apologoze

[urban lodge]

Caesar is simply admiral level, it's not a Kata L

[hot cairn]

hell nah, it’s still not Tanaka

you’re cooked

[grand flower]

luffy and joy boy share a va

that's now a fact

[tough igloo]

i know we want a big twist for someone else to be joyboy descendants lol but this could be another case of the obvious choice being the right choice … Luffy , Dragon & Garp are descendants of Joyboy

[pulsar timber]

Don’t even need the anime to know it’s cooked

[tranquil blade]

Luffy is obv admiral level since the start of the timeskip then

[digital spear]

Kata is father before a TV type of aurafarming. He comes into the living room while youre watching TV, stands there with folded arms, you dont really know if hes dismissive of what youre watching or not, and then he leaves

[hot cairn]

no they do not lmao

[tranquil blade]

Kata is aurafarming because he knows he's just gonna be a free fruit if he tries to save Pudding

[urban lodge]

Caesar went easy on him

[grand flower]

Yes they do

[digital spear]

Yeah or Caesar just became stronger

[grand flower]

This woman has played Luffy and Joy boy

That’s a factual statement

[hot cairn]

it’s not Tanaka man

[barren token]

I think

[hot cairn]

that is the real fact

[frigid gulch]

Viz did go with abyssal

[grand flower]

This VA has played Luffy and Joy boy

Fact

[digital spear]

Abysmal contract

[hot cairn]

okay and it’s not Mayumi Tanaka

Fact

[hazy turret]

Did my message not send

[barren token]

I think caesar used his devil fruit to make katakrui hallucinate and jts not a show of powrrlebek

But I could be wrong

[tranquil blade]

Well of course but people want to hype the child poisoner

[rich hornet]

But they don’t share a VA

[frigid gulch]

Nah Caesar no diffed him

[digital spear]

Powerbebek

Bebek W

[iron oriole]

https://x.com/pewpiece/status/1995144975684657587?t=S4lP15hE7HOjSFarMv1nVA&s=19

Pew (@pewpiece)

OFFICIAL : 🚨🚨🚨🚨

Joy Boy’s voice actor has been confirmed as Urara Takano!!

she is Luffy's first voice actor in the original OVA

X · Nov 30, 2025, 2:56 PM

[frigid gulch]

Luffy clone is real

[digital spear]

Urara W

[frigid gulch]

[woeful moth]

they do... but its Luffy from 1998 OVA

[digital spear]

https://tenor.com/view/haru-urara-uma-musume-punch-anime-funny-gif-16845492281104267385

[urban lodge]

😔

[woeful moth]

still Luffy

[frigid gulch]

Watch him have red hair or something

[pulsar path]

Omg that's amazing

[hazy turret]

Of course he will

[ashen perch]

he is still Shanks's ancestor, changes nothing

[rich hornet]

Has played Luffy before and “both characters are voiced by same person” has a key distinction. It is very cool though. Reminds me of what they did for FMA:B

[tough igloo]

Imu biggest failures over the centuries

1.) tried to obtain Nika fruit so Joyboy couldn’t return but was never able to

2.) tried to erase all Davy Clan so Davy Jones wouldn’t return but wasn’t able to

[pulsar path]

I have had theory's that the one shots arnt one shots

And there past joy boys

Infact
.

[digital spear]

What was it about

[pulsar path]

We have had 3 version of romance dawn, Nika, joy boy , Luffy

[hazy turret]

That’s Oda’s special little boy

[hazy turret]

In response to you

[frigid gulch]

Oda thinks he’s slick

[ashen perch]

well he is the child of destiny yea

[barren token]

Are people saying shanks is a joyboy ancestor because of harold thinking he'd seen shanks before

[stone terrace]

"People" its just arsal

[hazy turret]

He’s the specialist boy in the whooole wide world

[shell scroll]

oh my god joyboy voice reveal

[barren token]

Is arsal saying shanks is a joyboy ancestor because of haromd thinking he'd seen shanks before

[ashen perch]

well there are a few more people than me but I will gladly claim the theory as mine

[digital spear]

If it was after this then no 😔

[hot cairn]

yeah exactly, Joyboy’s VA it’s not the same as Luffy’s lol cmon now

[hazy turret]

[rich hornet]

Is Shanks an even more MC coded character than Ace now?

[stone terrace]

Now heres the thing about joyboys reveal

[tough igloo]

nah Arsal was believing this before this chapter

[ashen perch]

no I think thats just related to Roger visiting Elbaf before

[stone terrace]

If hes some macho guy with a beard the voice wont fit at all

[hazy turret]

Arsal is just testing his luck after mosahoshi

[stone terrace]

So theyre banking on him being a luffy clone

[digital spear]

Since Ace is dead Oda is putting everything into Shanks, bro even forgot Sabo and Law

[hot cairn]

it’ll probably be a Luffy clone there’s no doubt about it

Lili is literally just a Vivi clone

[long basin]

why did Imu not kill him in the flower room?

[hazy turret]

Joyboy is gonna look like 40 year old good future Luffy

[barren token]

Was there a break this week?

[hazy turret]

No

[rich hornet]

Rocks swerved him

[barren token]

Let's GO

[tough igloo]

lol true

Davy Joens gonna be a Teach clone

Shirahoshi gonna be a OG Poseidon clone

Luffy gonna be a Joyboy clone

Vivi is a Lily clone 🤣

[iron oriole]

Plot

[pulsar path]

It's possible Imu only has powers through others but can't be killed in person till all other marker humans have been taken out

[barren token]

If there was a break this week I'd probably end it all tbqh

[pulsar path]

There it's hoaxcruxis

[ashen perch]

yeah, I have been believing it because I think it will contrast with BB being Davy's descendant. The mysterious Mama Shanks with her fiery red hair and no face is a mystery because Oda has not deemed it the right moment for us to see a direct descendant of Joyboy.

[digital spear]

Did Joy Boy became 100 btw

[hazy turret]

:(

[ashen perch]

presumably yeah YC

[digital spear]

Old fart

[tranquil blade]

I get it

[ashen perch]

Void Century came to a close with his death so I assume it started with his birth

[barren token]

Joyboy died at 23

[tough igloo]

i believe so cause he was alive before the void century and VP said his death ended the void century

[prisma yacht]

We don't want clones 💔

[tranquil blade]

Joyboy died at 67

[hazy turret]

I don’t understand this

Did joyboy become 100?

[hot cairn]

guys so the official went with Abyssal, thoughts? @vital heart

[urban lodge]

We already know Davy Jones is a Rocks clone too

[digital spear]

What Arsal and Jason said

Yes

[barren token]

How do we know he was alive before the vc?

[hazy turret]

Got it

[digital spear]

Not before but he was born at the start of VC

[iron oriole]

Viz sweep

[rich hornet]

Is Joyboy a giant then? Or in part?

[barren token]

Do we know that?

[digital spear]

Vegapunk said it

[barren token]

Hmmmmm

[pulsar path]

It's possible joy boy did die and gave his fruit to another half way through void

[digital spear]

Chapter 1114

[barren token]

Send panel

[wet condor]

Oh damn he was pushing Kureha numbers

[buoyant oxide]

Joy boy is gonna have a big round red nose. Calling it now

[pulsar path]

No one would know if he was in "Nika " form

[barren token]

No shot joyboy lived to 100

[pulsar path]

Judging by every one mistaken Luffy for joy boy constantly tly

[tough igloo]

wasn’t the void century 800 years ago ? and VP said Joyboy was 900 years ago and his death ended the void century

[barren token]

That motherfucker had to have died in battle and he was not 100 fighting a war

[ashen perch]

I wonder if Buccaneers age differently too

[wet condor]

I like him dying in battle better

[tranquil blade]

What if he was just that strong

He was so strong they couldnt kill him until he was 100 years old

[ashen perch]

Giant Joyboy is just kinda dead, he is too small compared to Emeth

[pulsar path]

Tbh 100 years isn't that big of a age in one-piece

[barren token]

What if my dick was just that big man, it doesn't work like that

[shell scroll]

is imu gonna gasp next episode or the one after?

[tranquil blade]

It does

[ashen perch]

Oda is bad at sizes but it gets to a point yknow

[tranquil blade]

It does work like that

[pulsar path]

It to be fighting the whole 100 years. Maybe joy boy didn't age

[hazy turret]

Kureha is 144 sooo

[digital spear]

Well it does for me

[ashen perch]

he isnt gonna be THAT bad at sizes

[tranquil blade]

Also speak for yourself cunk

[pulsar path]

Yeah but she also not fighting a war at that age

[wet condor]

I'm just memeing. I agree with you Arsal lol

[pulsar path]

I think we have a heavy cap out for battles at like 80

[hazy turret]

So? She’s still up and kicking

[stone terrace]

You can fight at 100

[cold steppe]

I'm guessing the reshaping of the world to achieve the fact that no one knows what happened during 100 years, would take a lot of time even 50+ years

[stone terrace]

You just need some icy hot afterwards

[tranquil blade]

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-friends-psychicpebbles-pim-smiling-friends-pim-mr-boss-gif-1373626090718171797

[cold steppe]

So it makes sense it's 100

[pulsar path]

What I'm saying is this doesn't work for joy boy unless he was ageless that's all

[frigid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-saint-topman-warcury-intro-title-card-saint-topman-warcury-topman-warcury-st-warcury-gif-5414042910152365497

[ashen perch]

Joyboy was just the peak of Oda's "old men should be forever powerful" philosophy

[barren token]

Ok now post where he said joyboys death ended the vc

[alpine trench]

i cannot look at another one of these gifs without the impact frames

[pulsar path]

If we only know the date when he talked to emmeth

[digital spear]

Thats not what I said. That was my question

Did he?

[barren token]

I'm getting angry now

[hazy turret]

Unless the final battle took place in the heaven realm and time dilation is real

[pulsar path]

Because that also seems to be the last time he spoke to emmeth

[wet condor]

Joyboy, based on that hat, should be something like 20 feet at least tho

[hazy turret]

Or whatever the realm was called

[pulsar path]

Was he that big next to emmeth?

[digital spear]

Me neither

[tranquil blade]

Astral realm,heaven realm whatever it is

[barren token]

Would never catch my ass on the arsal realm

[pulsar path]

Definitely possible if we ever find out about that realm 😂

[wet condor]

I mean next to Emeth I dunno. He may be like 10 feet or something

[ashen perch]

we are not ready for the training arc in the Heaven Realm of Spirit and Time

3 days will equal 2 years there

[tranquil blade]

What if there's nothing up there or it's just like a cemetery for the giants

[barren token]

Elbaf time dilation believers had to readjust so it's just the heaven realm now huh

[wet condor]

A hyperbolic realm

[ashen perch]

I think it could also be the underworld but I am sticking to Heaven Realm

[strong wadi]

When we learn the heaven realm is time distorted so we can train the strawhats up there, 1 year in there is 1 week real time 🧘‍♂️

[ashen perch]

so true

[frigid gulch]

https://fixupx.com/DawnStussy/status/1995151351173861768

Stussy Sama - Dawn&Dusk (@DawnStussy)

As for the idea that only 13 people can form a contract higher than the “浅海契約: Shallow-Sea Contract,” if you think about it simply, the Five Elders make up 5 of them — which means the God Knights would total 8 members.
︀︀
︀︀In the God Valley incident, we actually saw 7 God Knights.
︀︀So where was the last one?
︀︀
︀︀My guess is that there was someone who held the position that corresponds to today’s “最高司令官: Supreme Commander,” the role currently filled by Garling.
︀︀
︀︀“司令官commander” is usually someone who stays off the front lines and gives orders to the team from a distance. So it’s likely that Garling, “団長 the leader”, was the one overseeing things directly on the ground during the God Valley incident — while the “最高司令官 Supreme Commander” stayed behind in Mariejois.

**💬 8 🔁 8 ❤️ 208 👁️ 8.8K **

FixupX · Nov 30, 2025, 3:22 PM

[pulsar path]

Very close to other series! I will reframe from calling koya tho

[digital spear]

That wouldnt change anything because no one seems to go there

[frigid gulch]

[pulsar path]

I don't think the elders are counted in the mark

[strong wadi]

Pretty much my exact thoughts as well

[frigid gulch]

But Garling was never stated to be the Commander

[narrow stratus]

how did you guys like the episode today?

[frigid gulch]

Unless it was omitted

[ashen perch]

I just dont believe that Oda introduced those HKs in GV just to replace them offscreen

[barren token]

Why

[urban lodge]

Well

[frigid gulch]

It seems like they are

[strong wadi]

He's noted as commander in today's chapter 33 years ago

[urban lodge]

The man couldn't even bother naming them

[pulsar path]

Tbh it has to be rare for a holy knight to die

[frigid gulch]

24

[pulsar path]

We have more than 10 holy knights already

[strong wadi]

or 24 years ago, you know what i mean

[tranquil blade]

Oda just wanted to draw some ideas on throwaway characters perchance

[grand flower]

wassup yall

[frigid gulch]

Replaced some

[digital spear]

wait a minute then Harald was there for like 18 years

people told me 9

[barren token]

Oda doesn't need an excuse to introduce characters we see for 1 page then never again

[strong wadi]

that's cause i had to correct myself just now

[frigid gulch]

But that’s a whole 14 years

[pulsar path]

We are at 12 gods knights

[grand flower]

@hot cairn how you doing

[frigid gulch]

I’m saying at GV

Like the tweet mentions

[pulsar path]

I'm not sure how or why a gods knight would be replaced

They can't die

[digital spear]

this chapter was confusing with the times tbh

[tranquil blade]

They do age tho

[urban lodge]

They do age

[frigid gulch]

They don’t have what the Gorosei have

[sage temple]

It seems like they needed Loki to replace one

So maybe

And Gaban said they aren't immortal

[barren token]

Maffey already got more screen time than the yakuza leader guys from udon

[woeful moth]

they can die... they can fail and disappoint Imu and be gone... we already saw it happen

[tranquil blade]

So they might just get too old to fight as effectively and then they either retired or get replaced

[frigid gulch]

Also Deep Sea = HK

Logically

Deep Deep Sea = Elder

[stone terrace]

I wanna see who was supreme commander before

Another figarland?

[tranquil blade]

People keep saying the elders arent a part of these pacts but like what reason would there be for that

[strong wadi]

Probably killed due to some failure

[tranquil blade]

Like they have to have some type of pact

[barren token]

People want there to be more than 8 God knights i guess

[iron oriole]

It makes sense that the Abyssal contract is exclusive to those closest to Imu (Gorosei)

[frigid gulch]

They’re wrong. They have a pact for sure

[strong wadi]

Only logical reason is wanting to see the older knights or wanting more of them for match-up purposes

[urban lodge]

It seems the perennial youth is separate from the abyssal contract

[pulsar path]

I mean some do..I'm guessing the first level you age

[stone terrace]

13 HKs from a writing logistics standpoint is asinine from oda

[barren token]

Seeing as garling got old is it safe to assume only the abyssal contract stops ageing

[frigid gulch]

Seemingly

[stone terrace]

Either some would have to be neglected or the story is extended another year lol

[urban lodge]

It's not even that because of Gunko

[tranquil blade]

but there's already enough when you consider that only conquerors haki users can beat them anyways, with that in mind 8 of them is more than enough

[pulsar path]

How when Gunko tho

[wraith mantle]

i like viz's translation of the contract names better

[barren token]

Gunko can have the abyssal contract

[pulsar path]

And I think sommers would be older

[frigid gulch]

Gunko was given the contract too

[barren token]

She's seemingly got something more going on then other God knights

[iron oriole]

No aging is 100% because of the Ope Ope

[pulsar path]

He would be like 50-80

[urban lodge]

But she was still a blade of god

[sage temple]

Also if Harald wasn't even a Holy Knight I wonder why they wanted Loki to be one if they wanted to replace him

[pulsar path]

60

[strong wadi]

She was devoted blade at god's valley and she should be much older than her appearance at that point

[pulsar path]

They need the giants on there side

[barren token]

Yap Yap Yap

[wraith mantle]

loki is to replace garling

[barren token]

Stop barking dog

[strong wadi]

But yeah, i'd say Gunko has some sort of special place, could be some unique contract

[tranquil blade]

I assume whatever contract the gorosei and Gunko have is what allows them to not age

[sage temple]

Yeah but they could've just made Loki a blade of god

[digital spear]

Well people always say there arent enough enemies

[dense rapids]

Loki was Garling replacement

[sage temple]

Loki would've skipped a whole stage in the HK system

[frigid gulch]

We saw her back when Rocks barged in to the Flower Room

[pulsar path]

I mean that's probably what's happening

[frigid gulch]

56 yrs ago

[sage temple]

They asked him to become a Holy Knight though

[strong wadi]

I mean, knowing Loki's personality, they might just assume he would say no to that position

[sage temple]

Not a Blade of God

[barren token]

Socrates thinks Loki would be such a good wg dog he'd get special promotions

Interesting

[sage temple]

Then what's the point of asking

[sage temple]

I guess bro

[strong wadi]

Hoping he'd say yes to an even higher position, not the base level position

[dense rapids]

I mean they asked him specifically to be a holy knight not a god blade

[sage temple]

It just seems like they wanted Loki for his strength

[dense rapids]

That’s a difference

[pulsar path]

Tbh oda might now even had the herichy system worked out but even so there is a process to becoming holy knight

Maybe they would have skipped the first stage but

[wraith mantle]

as if loki knows the difference

[tranquil blade]

The last contract that could be missing from during the time of the GV incident could just be Gunko

[barren token]

They want Loki because they're trying to make a play for elbaf again

[frigid gulch]

Maybe they decided to skip protocol for whatever reason

[sage temple]

How would he even know the difference

[dense rapids]

They were willing to allow Loki to instantly become a holy knight and know of Imu

[strong wadi]

I mean, he very well could considering his dad could have talked about it to him

[sage temple]

😭

[frigid gulch]

Elbaf shenanigans

[strong wadi]

I mean, he very well could considering his dad could have talked about it to him

[digital spear]

Maybe the current devoted blades just suck ass

[sage temple]

That's unlikely

[wraith mantle]

his dad was instructed not to talk about HK business with commoners

[sage temple]

Loki isn't the type to have any of that

[sage temple]

Adam your theory is falling apart

[tranquil blade]

They will be the gifters of the final war

[strong wadi]

Doesn't mean he'd follow that for his heir

[wraith mantle]

fairs

[barren token]

Its so funny everyone in the manga is so desperate for elbafs strength when the average giant gets one shot by a gust of wind travelling over 5/kms

[strong wadi]

The theory isn't falling apart just because you don't understand the characters

[digital spear]

Mihawk was a devoted blade btw

[pulsar path]

In almost positive holy knights are fighting the revs

At least half of em

Garland vs dragon is set up now

[wraith mantle]

oda keeps saying the giants are a great military might but we see them get one shot by doll

[sage temple]

Loki barely even knew what the Holy Knights were

He just knew they were CDs which he disliked

[wraith mantle]

i wonder why loki dislikes the CDs

[sage temple]

There's no reason for Harald to tell him about the blade of god and the holy knights

[tranquil blade]

It's true but like maybe 1000 of them is a little better than 1000 marines

[sage temple]

Xebec might've told him

[tranquil blade]

They're like super fodder

[pulsar path]

So th issue here is your looking at the top fighters when war breaks out it uses civilians to fight and a giant can take at least 1000 regular civilians

[frigid gulch]

Giants vs VAs

[wraith mantle]

fodder dont win wars

[frigid gulch]

Who’s better

[sage temple]

Also if this were the case why choose Loki? The shame of Elbaph

[frigid gulch]

[wraith mantle]

fodders are irrelevant in wars

[pulsar path]

I mean they actually do lol

[digital spear]

You dont get wars 🤨

[sage temple]

If Loki is actually a key piece in getting the giants on whichever side, this might foreshadow his Yonko-like past as a pirate

[ashen perch]

Wasnt a oneshot, she hit him like 20 times lol, and she is a Vice Admiral so its the least you'd expect from them

[tranquil blade]

fodders dont win wars in one piece a lot of the time, unless they're used to stall before someone actually strong can come in and win the war

[wraith mantle]

now yc is gonna cite some irl war when we are talking about a fictional one piece world

[tranquil blade]

but I guess that is their use

[pulsar path]

Because one maybe Imu is stupid and doesn't know and two if Loki were to get u freed and state he was becoming king without destroying elbaf I think people would get behind him it's his violent nature and want to destroy everything that freaks people out

[frigid gulch]

Fodder fight fodder pretty simply. They may sometimes get in the way of actual strong people

[pulsar path]

Alabasta

[frigid gulch]

But they obviously get mowed down

Still giants are the best foot soldiers

[strong wadi]

What indicates he barely knows? He indicates he does not know why he was able to effectively harm one in the past, but now understands why due to Gaban.

[frigid gulch]

So it’s important

[tranquil blade]

I mean there's probably quite a lot of giants

[sage temple]

"yeah guys I know you think I killed your greatest king but ignore allat I'll take his place, we friends now?"

[tranquil blade]

We dont know the exact number but I'm guessing it's in the thousands at least

[strong wadi]

How about trying to rationalize the path of Elbaf to the son that can't understand, so explains things to him to help him understand (he still refuses to change though, typical teenage rebellion)

[pulsar path]

I bet half of elbaf would instantly take his side

Haj and the people that know Loki might not

[digital spear]

Alec Waugh and his regiment participated in the horror at Passchendaele in 1917. Waugh’s direct and brutal description of witnessing a body decay in No Man’s Land was discussed in a review that appeared in The Bookman: “his [Waugh’s] ‘Cannon Fodder’ and ‘The Other Side strip the romance of war to the bone and leave it a senseless huddle of mud and blood and putrefaction that no sane man could glorify.”

Less explicitly, the poem “Cannon Fodder” gives voice to the isolation and alienation that link the experience of the trenches with that of the home front. Despite the multitude of living things in No Man’s Land – busy lice, creeping vermin, and feasting worms, the dead man is a “poor, lonely thing.” And when the family learn of their soldier’s death, the news enters their home like a snake, leaving a young girl, mother, and all who loved him, in silent, solitary darkness.

The form of the poem mimics the frustrated search for meaning in a world that no longer makes sense: while there are rhymes, they are unpatterned and unpredictable, and several lines end with words that never find an answering echo (as in line 3, flesh or line 47, broken). The poem’s stanza lengths also vary widely: the first stanza and its description of the putrefying body is the longest (18 lines). As the poem continues, however, stanzas grow increasingly shorter, until the last four stanzas are limited to four lines, as if mirroring the breakdown and decay of bodies, of understanding, and of meaning.

When The Bookman reviewed the poem in 1918, St. John Adcock noted what made Waugh’s work both disturbing and distinctive:
"We are so accustomed to have our poets pass elusively over ugly truths that it shocks some of us to come across Alec Waugh’s swift statement of bald details in his sharply-contrasted sketches of what is happening simultaneously at home, here, and on the battle-fields at a distance."

[woeful moth]

tbh if i was Shamrock i'd also say join the holy knights and not say you should be god's blade...

[ashen perch]

also I was doing something but as for the HKs count

[pulsar path]

I also think the hierarchy was not made yet

[sage temple]

Yeah and him being able to harm one in the past could just be because the person in the castle incident had the same uniform Shamrock and Gunko had

[ashen perch]

I was gonna repost something, 1s

[digital spear]

1 second passed

[prisma yacht]

10 seconds passed

[tranquil blade]

Look 7 holy knights for the depths covenant, Gunko and the 5 elders comprise the abyssal covenant

It makes sensew

[digital spear]

^

[sage temple]

Have we seen anyone recently show a liking to him ?

[pulsar path]

How many holy knights were present on God valley

[tranquil blade]

It would also explain why Gunko and the elders are both immortal, it's cause they have the same pact with Imu

[digital spear]

Like 7 I think

[tranquil blade]

7, Gunko wasnt an official knight yet

She was a blade of god

[pulsar path]

The blade mark doesn't count than

[dense rapids]

7 Hks on God Valley

The supreme commander that was missing makes 8

[ashen perch]

Currently before Garling's transition to Gorosei, we had Garling, Shamrock, Gunko, Sommers and Qilingham existing at the same time, thats 5 HKs. Maffey, Yeti guy, Cow Mask guy, Goth HK, Other Manmeyer's present day status is unknown but I am willing to bet that they were not introduced only to have been removed offscreen years ago and that they are still working to this day. Thats 10. Add 2 for the Shoujo Prince guy and Gas Mask guy and thats 12 with the 13th being unknown, that makes more sense to me. There are 12, really 13 Zodiac Signs and that also fits well with the idea that the HKs are meant to be based on the signs.

[urban lodge]

So I guess she was only technically a blade of god in rank but already had the abyssal contract?

[tranquil blade]

Yeah well Imu has a special interest in her

[pulsar path]

Instill think goresei and HK are separate

I think Loki would have taken the mark garland was leaving. Behind

[strong wadi]

again, you are making up gas mask and shoujo prince guys as holy knights when nothing indicated that

[prisma yacht]

Why do we think she was a blade of god ? Bcs of what those cd said ?

[tranquil blade]

Also a lot of the knights from GV could have just retired by now

[strong wadi]

Yes

[urban lodge]

Yeah they directly call her a blade of god

[dense rapids]

The “13th” zodiac is Ophiuchus

[tranquil blade]

Yeah they call her that

[pulsar path]

Tbh tho we don't see any one not holy knight not in regular CD dragon outfits

[warm sierra]

Sommers still in it for the love of the game

[ashen perch]

I am adding them because even if they were just Devoted Blades, they must have been promoted to Holy Knights by now

[woeful moth]

tbh i was on that corner... until i saw that all the Gorosei are capable fighters

[prisma yacht]

I thought they called her a pet

[dense rapids]

@sage temple “Loki join the holy knights”

[urban lodge]

They call her both

[tranquil blade]

We see the group given the title "holy knights" in the flashback and it's only 7

[sage temple]

Yeah maybe if he even has enough time to do that; he dies in a year

[pulsar path]

What about how the story of Gemini has twins switching places and one giving his god good to save his twin

[prisma yacht]

I see

[frigid gulch]

Oda literally removed those guys

[strong wadi]

There are probably a large selection of devoted blades, i doubt the majority of them make it to holy knight

[long basin]

what's the deal with the number 13 at the moment?

[frigid gulch]

Do we know if they even exist

[pulsar path]

God valley the valley of retcons

[lofty fern]

8-9

[tranquil blade]

They might still but they arent knights

[ashen perch]

I just dont see why Oda would highlight those 2 if they werent gonna return

[dense rapids]

Idk

[strong wadi]

Ok, that still gives time for him to tell Loki about it?

[sage temple]

"13"00 the chapter Loki was introduced

[tranquil blade]

They are devoted blades maybe, or if the old knights retired maybe they're knights now

[dense rapids]

Loki was introduced in chapter 1030

[digital spear]

There are 13 CDa with a higher sign

[pulsar path]

If each counts for the 13 than the goresei could not be apart of the 13

[dense rapids]

I think

[woeful moth]

all the gorosei being capable fighters suggests that they were once knights under Imu tbh

[long basin]

ah, kk. thx

[lofty fern]

Yes, but that's missing the 2 from the Kuma flashback

[strong wadi]

maybe if we got their names lol

[dense rapids]

Those could be god blade and not holy knight

They didn’t even appear in god valley

[tranquil blade]

Why would the gorosei have some super secret contract that no one knows of

[pulsar path]

Himmel 🥹 sorry your name brought out emotions

[lofty fern]

If there are 8 and the 5 elders, thats 13

[long basin]

Loki has snake eyes and may be able to damage the red line

[pulsar path]

You said 8+9

8-9

[tranquil blade]

It's possible they were devoted blades of God like Gunko was at the time

[ashen perch]

we didnt get Cow Mask and Goth's name either but they were the only 3 that were highlighted with Garling in GV during Kuma's flashback lol

[lofty fern]

They were there at GV, just not shown in the second flashback

That doesn't mean they weren't there

[dense rapids]

That’s what I’m saying

[strong wadi]

Yeah, but they were highlighted again in the god valley flashback

[frigid gulch]

Oda just did some placeholder shit for the Kuma flashback

[pulsar path]

Did they even distinguish that blade of God doesn't count for the 13

[frigid gulch]

The proper one is this flashback

[dense rapids]

Yea

[tranquil blade]

Yeah

[lofty fern]

Most of the knights didn't get any screen time

[dense rapids]

Yea but all the official ones we saw were in the group panel

[wraith mantle]

i respect irl fodder

[dense rapids]

The other 2 as well as Gunko weren’t

So they could be god blade

[barren token]

Highlighted is such a big word

[pulsar path]

Still don't think goresei are apart of the marks

[lofty fern]

Yes, they only are talking about the 2 deeper contracts

[barren token]

Appeared in the background of one panel

[pulsar path]

8 holy knights is weak

[wraith mantle]

i was reading that wtf

[ashen perch]

if there are only 8 HKs, that means aside from Garling, Shamrock, Gunko, Sommers and Qilingham, only 3 HKs exist. That just doesnt make sense to me when there are 7 candidates from GV alone lol

[woven talon]

Neptunian in 2025 in a chapter that features Neptune

[pulsar path]

It's not even enough to take the 10 straw hats

[dense rapids]

Gorosei have full body abyssal marks

[woeful moth]

literally hahaha

[tranquil blade]

but again I will ask, why would the gorosei have some super secret unknown pact with Imu, what is the point in that

[frigid gulch]

They were “highlighted” only for a few to get any proper screen time

[pulsar path]

I think they are literally part of Imu at that point

[sage temple]

Yeah it seems like a lot of different hoops to go through for Loki's HK request to be unrelated to strength/natural influence

[lofty fern]

Except for those two who are seen in that context as knights in that previous flashback

[pulsar path]

I don't think it's a packed I think it's something more

[woven talon]

This makes it sound like Harald is also freaked out by Loki’s eyes, calling him a demon

[ashen perch]

idk what you want me to call this

[wraith mantle]

the shojo prince character

[warm sierra]

Something I find interesting is that all the contracts are ocean themed

[ashen perch]

I think they just dont have a covenant at all, they are special

[lofty fern]

Garling isn't a HK anymore, so he's not one of the 8 and there are 4 more

[tranquil blade]

I dont see how it could be more, my assumption is you get better "perks" or abilities depending on what covenant you're in or whatever.

[tranquil blade]

They have some kind of deal with Imu'

[woven talon]

Why is the text so uncentered?

[royal orchid]

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[tranquil blade]

They literally have to

[ashen perch]

guy who is trying to compete with Garling just entirely irrelevant I guess

[royal orchid]

so much good fanart this chapter

[lofty fern]

I'm pretty sure he's never seen his eyes

[royal orchid]

people just like drawing shanks and shamrock a lot I guess

[urban lodge]

Curse you Oda for never showing us shoujo prince in action

[tranquil blade]

They could easily be devoted blades of god

[frigid gulch]

I think you’re putting too much stock into this stuff

[stone terrace]

If shanks and shamrock were from baltimore

[wraith mantle]

very likely oda retconned his ass out of existence

[ashen perch]

I am counting him because the vacancy has supposedly not been filled yet. That leaves only 3 current HKs

[strong wadi]

Yeah they are unfortunately

[wraith mantle]

rip shoujo prince

[urban lodge]

Common God Valley L

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/stare-disappointed-mad-idris-elba-stringer-bell-gif-17916385

[hazy echo]

Accounting for double pages I’m assuming

[ashen perch]

I disagree that they are irrelevant lol, you guys are the ones making that assumption

[wraith mantle]

when will your hate of god valley be over

[dense rapids]

These two are either god blade or Oda erased them from existence

[hazy echo]

Don’t want to cut off the dialogue for prints

[urban lodge]

When it stops being bad (never)

[tranquil blade]

They're not that relevant or else Oda would have shown them in action

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/kisaru-caminando-gif-21645789

[lofty fern]

Well we know that it's not full body since we've seen the bodies of say Jupiter and Venus. I'd say most of the arm

[frigid gulch]

They’re not even there

[ashen perch]

there are 12 characters who can be HKs in the present day, and that alone makes the idea of 13 HKs very likely to me

not 8

[pulsar path]

I really don't think Oda had the hierarchy figured out at this point

[royal orchid]

why this 🖍️🤕 so mad

[strong wadi]

Oda drew them just to keep copers about BM not eating all the children alive

[pulsar path]

I'm with you!

[lofty fern]

You just really want to see all the ones from the past also in the present which isn't likely

[pulsar path]

I mean what would have happened to them

[lofty fern]

Some of them got replaced more than likely

[dense rapids]

I think some of those just got replaced

[tranquil blade]

Why do you assume all the knights then are still knights now, it's very possible some of them were replaced

[ashen perch]

again, I just dont see the point of introducing them just to remove them offscreen

[scarlet nacelle]

this translation is much better than "shallow sea contract, deep sea contract, and deep deep sea contract"

[dense rapids]

Gunko probably replaced the Manmayer when she became official

[pulsar path]

Literally like only person or two in the world can even hit them

[lofty fern]

They die or get too old or retire

[tranquil blade]

Especially because these guys actually do age, they grow old and weak like everyone else

[barren token]

They were barely introduced man come on

[dense rapids]

^

[pulsar path]

I firmly believe this doesn't happen

[lofty fern]

They can also give up their postion to their kid or something

[wraith mantle]

is this bait

[ashen perch]

only 38 years have passed, Sommers is like barely a year older than 60 right now.

[dense rapids]

What?

[ashen perch]

what do you mean old

[barren token]

They're there to fill out the CD presence at God valley

[dense rapids]

Garling is literally old

[cold steppe]

It is much better. But tcb sounds more like something oda would do

[royal orchid]

how Oda felt after writing the entire script for God Valley, watching Toei's animation and realizing he didn't do shit with 5 of the shown God Knights

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-cyberpunk-omg-bruh-moment-gif-592825602202480897

[tranquil blade]

Is 60 not old

[dense rapids]

He aged

[ashen perch]

no

[barren token]

No haha

[dense rapids]

😂😂😂

[pulsar path]

Not really

[lofty fern]

It HAS to happen. They do get older, they have to die sometime. Not everyone gets to be an elder

[pulsar path]

If anything you get to specific age an stop aging form there

[ashen perch]

Kaido is 59, BM is 68, Fujitora is 58, Kizaru is like 58 too, these are all active ages

[wraith mantle]

i thought ragebait was prohibited

[pulsar path]

Ehh idk

[ashen perch]

thats how old the HKs are at best

[tranquil blade]

Also how do you know Sommers is only 60

[royal orchid]

68... so close yet so far

[barren token]

I unironically think random unnamed Goth holy knight that shows up in the background of like 2 panels is not that relevant baba

[hazy turret]

Dang I thought kizaru was younger

[barren token]

I'm kinda crazy like that

[lofty fern]

You know? Old? People can die at 60 lol

[ashen perch]

not in One Piece

[frigid gulch]

They’ve couldve died early

[blazing mantle]

Uncs

[frigid gulch]

Or gotten nuked for a mess up

We dont know

[wraith mantle]

crazy take

[pulsar path]

Sommers should be older

[dense rapids]

This would’ve been real if shanks was on the other side of Blackbeard

[tranquil blade]

Sommers can easily be like late 60's

[lofty fern]

Or older? Garling was pretty young and in his 20s back then, the others could be older for all we know

[pulsar path]

Like I said I think you age till your "prime" than you stop

[ashen perch]

Sommers still retains his hair color and doesnt seem to be an old man, I am putting him somewhere around his early 60s

[urban lodge]

114 will be the ugliest one piece cover of all time

[woven talon]

@scarlet nacelle

It sounds better but it’s not as accurate

Shallow sea
Deep sea
Deepest sea

Is the literal wording

[lofty fern]

Tell that to Ace

[olive sigil]

This seems fake

[tranquil blade]

and even so right, what if he was a younger knight at the time, just cause he's possibly "only 60" that doesnt mean the other knights wouldnt be like 70 in the current day

[ashen perch]

the exceptions dont matter

[frigid gulch]

Respect Rocks

[hazy turret]

😕

[frigid gulch]

[ashen perch]

the admirals are all uncs, the yonko were all uncs minus Shanks

[dense rapids]

It’s fan drawing

[trim lily]

you can tell it’s fake because luffy isn’t on it

[ashen perch]

Dragon is an unc, he is 56

[scarlet nacelle]

ok but im still gonna use shallow, depths, and abyssal

[urban lodge]

You can't deny how chopped he is, and the cover will be cluttered

[blazing mantle]

I don’t think they’re putting gunko on it so we’ll be good

[tranquil blade]

Someone like Maffey could have easily been in her 30's during GV, I dont see her still being around

[lofty fern]

Sometimes we need to sacrifice accuracy for something that sounds better as prose

[woven talon]

Fair

[urban lodge]

I will hunt you down

[olive sigil]

There’s old Luffy in the top left

[frigid gulch]

Well I do hope it isn’t cluttered..

[blazing mantle]

Where did all the maffey fan art go

[frigid gulch]

But we’ll see

[blazing mantle]

What’s wrong with you guys

[lofty fern]

mmhmm

[ashen perch]

at age 68 she would just be as old as BM

[tranquil blade]

She got aura'd so it was over for her

[dapper tree]

She's trash

So

[pine ridge]

died along with maffey herself

[blazing mantle]

😢

[ashen perch]

why would she not be around lol

[dapper tree]

She gone

[tranquil blade]

BM is not normal Arsal

[woven talon]

I agree but I feel like we’d be killed if we did that for something so important lol. I think it’s safer for scans to lean a bit more literal for new terms

[jade rain]

How many chapters would be in a volume

[blazing mantle]

I ask for so little

[pulsar path]

Maffey was present for rocks death she is coming back

[ashen perch]

68 is not that old lol

[blazing mantle]

I thought it was like 14

[olive sigil]

Feeso can you explain to me why genzo is being translated as Gen. Did oda just forget how to write his name?

[tranquil blade]

It IS old

[pulsar path]

Usually 7-10

[austere flint]

67

[blazing mantle]

67

[strong wadi]

Qillingham trying his hardest not to be replaced by Imu's finnicky ass

[tranquil blade]

Stop this cope that 68 is not fucking old

[blazing mantle]

Sweating bullets

[frigid gulch]

Even at that point, he has a couple members. Idk if hed just add them all

[urban lodge]

Maffey is definitely still around since she was shown with Garling and Sommers, and she does match one of the silhouettes pretty well

[dense rapids]

Started working overtime 😂

[ashen perch]

Neptune is like 70 and Oda didnt even pretend like he was old

[frigid gulch]

I’d hope he adds Loki and Harald

[tranquil blade]

BM is only so strong because she's a freak of nature

[woven talon]

His name has always been Gen, people call him Gen-san . Dubs and maybe viz did Genzo to match lip flaps

[blazing mantle]

Killingham putting in the most work rn and Imu still doesn’t think it’s enough

[lofty fern]

Not everyone gets to be that old

[blazing mantle]

There’s literally no pleasing that guy

[ashen perch]

Tom was 67 years old and he was just walking around normally too, as strong as ever

[olive sigil]

So his name isn’t actually Genzo in Japanese?

[sage temple]

😭 If Loki agreed to being a HK

[strong wadi]

Meanwhile Sommers basically doing jack and getting owned by everyone 😂 shoulda been replaceda fter GV smh

[blazing mantle]

What has summers even done

[blazing mantle]

Exactly

[woven talon]

It might be but it’s often shortened

[hazy turret]

He’s trying his hardest

[tranquil blade]

Lost

[blazing mantle]

And if we go by tattoos, he’s probably higher ranked than him

[dense rapids]

Be the best celestial dragon

[lofty fern]

And dead

[urban lodge]

Sommers is funny so he gets a pass

[blazing mantle]

So summers is being rewarded for doing nothing

[pulsar path]

This is why I don't think they get replaced or die

[wraith mantle]

i wouldn't be surprised if they offer doffy the position HK thats vacant due to garling's promotion

[woven talon]

I need to check tbh @olive sigil

[olive sigil]

I feel like my whole life is a lie

[royal orchid]

he started glazing his own fruit at mach speed when Imu questioned him 😭

[frigid gulch]

When will Kid appear from them

[pulsar path]

Maybe promoted ?

[lofty fern]

Beat Saul and ultimately Robin

[sage temple]

Invisible thorns around the kids

[hazy turret]

When will Mihawk stop running away

[dense rapids]

Sommers family member is also an Elder so he probably gets special privileges

[lofty fern]

Killed a bunch of slaves also counts

[tranquil blade]

I just dont get how the idea that some knights just retire is so crazy, like is it that unbelievable

[frigid gulch]

He’s not running

[blazing mantle]

They’re on elbaf to kidnap the kids that’s not important rn

That’s why killingham should get more credit

[pine ridge]

saturn didnt tho

[blazing mantle]

And unfortunately I have to praise gunko too

[ashen perch]

yes

[stone terrace]

Yeah once you get to 75 or so you lose half your prime strength

[dense rapids]

Saturn didn’t have a holy knight relative?

[strong wadi]

Probably a lot of nepotism too, trying to keep that shit in the family, replace a manmayer for a new manmayer, for example

[sage temple]

I doubt you can retire from being in a devil contract

[lofty fern]

He's pretty pivotal in that too, considering it's his thorns keeping them captive

[stone terrace]

And it only keeps going downhill

[hazy turret]

Apparently everything is unbelievable in this story

[pulsar path]

Because where do the marks go when they retired

[urban lodge]

They coordinated pretty well

[olive sigil]

@woven talon

[stone terrace]

It makes sense for knights to retire then new strong recruits are brought in

[pulsar path]

The marks alone seem to be a since of permanence

[tranquil blade]

Yeah that too, like Garling for sure wanted both his kids to lead the knights when he became a gorosei or died of old age if he didnt

[ashen perch]

all the HKs are still around and they are exponentially more powerful than they were in GV and ofc more experienced too

[royal orchid]

https://x.com/NoburuArt/status/1995171322113225171?t=rlVYrV8nJQA3VFhIvdTkfw&s=19

guys how does Oda possibly fit Luffy in a cover like 114 without making him a 4th wall break

NOBURU (Previously JaralloArt) (@NoburuArt)

ONE PIECE VOLUME 114 COVER CONCEPT

#今週のワンピ #ONEPIECE

X · Nov 30, 2025, 4:41 PM

[pine ridge]

saturn didnt get special privileges after egghead even as a gorosei

[ashen perch]

there is absolutely no reason for this to not be the case

[strong wadi]

I'd say every celestial family probably has a hope of trying to get one of their members as Gorosei, and then when a family member cannot achieve that, they try to replace themselves with a new member of the family. That one manmayer probably demoted

[frigid gulch]

Rocks look old af here

[dense rapids]

I’m not talking about like that

[frigid gulch]

[pulsar path]

Is this vol going to be all god valley?

[urban lodge]

Luffy interacted with over half these people therefore it's ok to put him there

[stone terrace]

We dont want luffy 🗣️

[blazing mantle]

I think he’s supposed to look tired or something

[hazy turret]

He’s literally stressed as hell

[blazing mantle]

But he is really old

[hazy turret]

Cut him some slack

[olive sigil]

He looks homeless like his son

[strong wadi]

shiki fans in the MUD LMAO

[tranquil blade]

Worst case scenario they're killed off when Imu no longer finds them useful, which is not that unbelievable either

[frigid gulch]

he was probably like 50 tops

[blazing mantle]

It’s fanmade chill

[strong wadi]

i hope it's something like this

[strong wadi]

dw it will be, trust

[blazing mantle]

Shiki will be on the actual volume cover

[hazy turret]

What are you talking about he literally got a panel this chapter

[dense rapids]

Dw shiki is in Elbaph

[hazy turret]

Shiki stocks are booming

[sage temple]

It'll be a Loki + Rocks pirates cover

Trust

[stone terrace]

Shiki does not belong on a volume cover

EVER

[tranquil blade]

No real reason to hate on him

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/hand-on-shoulder-akakichi-no-eleven-everything-will-be-ok-my-brother-in-christ-we're-gonna-beat-you-gif-16692013677699419935

[royal orchid]

shiki got a 3x4 image of him after God Valley and and it's already WAY TOO MUCH

[pulsar path]

I even don't think that I think it's pretty permanent once you get the higher mark

[stone terrace]

this is a glorified movie cameo

[blazing mantle]

Don’t switch up when Shiki shows up on elbaf

[woven talon]

Seems like it is Genzo but it’s often shortened to Gen

[dense rapids]

Shiki fans were dying about him being Gaban

[tranquil blade]

The Shiki hate must end

[hazy turret]

Shiki doesn’t belong in the story period if we’re being honest

[blazing mantle]

The movie is like 15 years old stop coping

[pulsar timber]

Shiki sucks

[strong wadi]

it's just funny to dab on shiki fans, shiki himself is fine, truly

[pulsar path]

I. Thinking too is it possible the HK choose there powers ?

[frigid gulch]

Why da hell did they turn this man SSJ

[pulsar timber]

I can’t believe people like shiki

[olive sigil]

I guess in the English versions they don’t shorten it because I’ve never seen that being used

[sage temple]

114 will be looking like this

[vestal mural]

Luffy doesn’t need to be on it

[wraith mantle]

shiki is a nothing burger character

[urban lodge]

I can't keep hating on Shiki anymore when he's a based Rocks hater

[tranquil blade]

Every time this guy is mentioned every hater of his jumps in the chat at once like a sixth sense

[blazing mantle]

Thank you penny for switching up

[digital spear]

• The lowest rank is the Shallow Covenant which makes you a devoted blade of god. It doesnt seem to give you special abilities yet, might just be a sign in form of a tattoo
• The second rank is the Depths Covenant which makes you a Holy Knight. You are now one of 13 people who know of Imus existence and have a magical bond to him. Along with a more detailed tattoo you can now probably enter the Abyss and have special abilities like regeneration.
• The highest rank is the Abyssal Covenant which are also included among those 13 people, presumably Commanders of the Holy Knight or Gorosei. This might be what makes you immortal and gives you Yokai forms.

[pulsar timber]

Rocks haters aren’t real people

[urban lodge]

Muk

[wraith mantle]

its all forced

tired bit

[pulsar timber]

Penny

[woven talon]

Yeah and even when they do shorten it, they add a suffixes anyway, so English just kept it un shortened

[vestal mural]

I love how chat has been obsessed with shiki and garling hate lately

[ashen perch]

dont gotta force me to hate on him

[urban lodge]

You're very lucky you've been gone from the community

[hazy turret]

It’s too easy, I understand why people bully Kid

[sage temple]

Ngl I don't get how anyone looks at Rocks and dislikes what they see

[vestal mural]

Oh hey feeso

[royal orchid]

it's the lack of blue hair with the gigantic cheekbones for me

[ashen perch]

it all comes naturally to me

[blazing mantle]

Penny doesn’t like rocks but is damn near gunkos number one fan

[urban lodge]

They're like Shanks fans and Blackbeard fans and Zoro fans all combined into one

[blazing mantle]

Goated

[sage temple]

Just saying whatever

[tranquil blade]

I guess I'll have to be the final Shiki and Kidd fan, the last one to carry their names 💔

[frigid gulch]

The MC of the old gen

[ashen perch]

mostly true, but not the Gorosei, just the commanders of the HKs

[hazy turret]

Garling is not even worth hating, he is just straight up dookie

[vestal mural]

Penny doesn’t like rocks??

[olive sigil]

Ok thanks that makes sense. I do think for the sake of consistency you should have kept it unshortened in the translation. Otherwise the rest of the translation was good

[wraith mantle]

thing with garling is he has nothing cool going on for him

[hazy turret]

No need to drag kid down further than he is rn 💔

[sage temple]

His position on the One Piece spread has been revoked

[digital spear]

thats what you are saying but others are saying something else so im just objective

[wraith mantle]

just shit character

[sage temple]

You're welcome

[tranquil blade]

Garling is hateable because he's evil

[digital spear]

Kid needs Shiki to return

Sorry

[tranquil blade]

If you wont defend him I have to

[ashen perch]

they are wrong, you can ignore them its okay ❤️

[pulsar timber]

That’s by design. But rocks fans are irrelevant to me. Rocks the character himself is dope

He’s a household name now

[tough igloo]

lmao why didn’t you keep buggy in his spot ?

[hazy turret]

https://tenor.com/view/ilgbtenha-stantwt-stan-twt-dude-nobody-invited-funny-gif-2432697925408331078

[frigid gulch]

Davy D. Xebec

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/ilgbtenha-stantwt-stan-twt-dude-nobody-invited-funny-gif-2432697925408331078

[blazing mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/pinksviral-stantwt-sigh-ugh-gif-2168133244603762036

[woven talon]

Seems viz might have exaggerated using demon here anyway , should be ruffian or hooligan or delinquent

[sage temple]

I think he'll fit better at the bottom

🤷‍♂️

[olive sigil]

Piss off with the buggy hate. Put Loki in the bottom where he belongs

[blazing mantle]

Buggy has no haters

[sage temple]

I'm not hating Buggy

[blazing mantle]

Not scientifically possible

[sage temple]

I'm just relocating Buggy

[royal orchid]

should be 1155 up to 1165
which is when Xebec is introduced? a bit before GV up to Rocks vs Roger/Garp

[tranquil blade]

Buggy has no enemies

[urban lodge]

Well there's Maji

[sage temple]

Buggy is one of my favs

[urban lodge]

But he's gonna switch up

[olive sigil]

You took his place

[prisma yacht]

Hi

[olive sigil]

Relocate anyone else

[prisma yacht]

Kill buggy

[royal orchid]

all of the navy by the way

[sage temple]

I like to think it was a consensual agreement

[digital spear]

Its so funny you did all that to exclude Garling instead

[pulsar timber]

Buggy fans are insufferable

[tranquil blade]

Tbf that wasnt his idea I think

[frigid gulch]

Rocks initially gave me the same vibe as Shanks but then he got torn down. With Shanks, we’re out here saying he’ll kick BB’s ass in their fight

[wraith mantle]

buggy fans are fake

[tranquil blade]

Maybe I should reread that part

[blazing mantle]

Joy….

[dense rapids]

Boy

[blazing mantle]

Buggy is the true reincarnation of Joyboy

[olive sigil]

Buggy fans = one piece fans

[sage temple]

Garling lost his panel priveleges

[frigid gulch]

Maaan

[wraith mantle]

i think the only real fandomns out there are shanks, rocks, zoro, and bb

[hazy turret]

You saying this as a shanks fan

The irony

[pulsar path]

Wow that's crazy a whole vol of rocks

[tough igloo]

you forgot the insane Boa stans lol

[dense rapids]

Says a kizaru fan

[pine ridge]

and then actual one piece fans

[tranquil blade]

I'd be okay with Buggy dying if it meant Shanks died too

[pulsar timber]

Shanks fan are insufferable too?

[urban lodge]

Was a Gary Stu for his entire existence but he died so we can't say he's one

[blazing mantle]

Aura farming or getting his ass kicked

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/kisaru-caminando-gif-21645789

[royal orchid]

an actual pile of stone

[olive sigil]

Me when I open my textbooks

[blazing mantle]

That’s all his screentime

[frigid gulch]

Penny probably hates that page of the narrator detailing his crimes

[sage temple]

True

[vestal mural]

It’s just those who make buggy jokes all the time otherwise buggy is peak

[frigid gulch]

Only to be shown raiding bad guys

[sage temple]

You can't aurafarm and be ass

[urban lodge]

Yeah I do

[frigid gulch]

[wraith mantle]

character fandoms are subset of the one piece fans

[urban lodge]

It's ridiculous

[wraith mantle]

true

[frigid gulch]

It’s WG propaganda

[pulsar timber]

Buggy fans are worse because for the longest time there was nothing to buggy’s character besides being the funny gag guy so that’s the only thing buggy fans would talk about

[hazy turret]

I’d take 1000 years of buggy jokes over an hour of shanks glaze

[wraith mantle]

penny wants sengoku to be right so bad

[sage temple]

True those are the basic few

[frigid gulch]

The consider going against the CDs as “taboo”

[urban lodge]

Can't even allow the guy to do pirate things without making excuses for him, he stole from an EVIL charity

[frigid gulch]

Who cares what the gov thinks

[tranquil blade]

See I respect Akainu fans because they will look at their goat murder someone undeservedly and say "yeah he did that shit"

[wraith mantle]

loki fans are up and coming

[sage temple]

True

I'm leading the movement

I'm the MLK of Loki fans

[vestal mural]

You can’t tell me buggy failing upwards isn’t genuinely cool

[pulsar timber]

It’s sad that this channel hates fun

[hazy turret]

Akainu fans are based

[pine ridge]

actually you should put akainu in there

[digital spear]

Hes in the story tho

[analog folio]

Hey, there’s any mod here? I wanna check if I got warned, I talked about joyboy voice on #anime im sorry

[wraith mantle]

oh yeah akainu fans are a valid faction too

[alpine trench]

i wrote this some time ago lol

garling feats updated:

• kill innocent civilians in a sadistic game
• kill his baby mother
• kill mjosgard
• kill rocks while he's defeated and on the verge of death on the ground

[tranquil blade]

Until they start talking crazy about Whitebeard then I have to step in

[royal orchid]

I said this once and I'll say it again if BB kills Sengoku or hurts him horribly I'm getting up out of the fence directly into his agenda, don't even care if he has slaves

[wraith mantle]

yeah i missed him

[frigid gulch]

He got humiliated too by Imu

[sage temple]

Jason why'd you react

[digital spear]

Shiki?

[pulsar path]

I dead ass can't wait for god valley omnibus

[pulsar timber]

It’s whatever to me. I’ve never really liked buggy but I don’t hate him. As long as he doesn’t become pirate king it’s whatever for me

[tidal ice]

based character

[frigid gulch]

I’m saying idk if I can even say that for Shanks

[ashen perch]

Xebec

[vestal mural]

https://tenor.com/view/the-goat-gif-4115569673926897153

[olive sigil]

Actual volume of rocks. With a picture of the red line

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/andrei-black-guy-gif-11424755498498314417

[ashen perch]

Shiki too though actually

[pulsar timber]

Rocks is a Gary Stu?

[tough igloo]

lmao because i’m confused how the 2 go together

[vestal mural]

He will. In the news at least. I genuinely believe that

[wraith mantle]

and dragon fans

[dense rapids]

We still waiting…

Rocks D. Buggy

[royal orchid]

damn Sanjuan bought Volume 114 already??

[tranquil blade]

Rocks is too chopped to be a Gary Stu

[urban lodge]

Shanks has one inexcusable flaw: he betrayed Buggy

[tough igloo]

lol if Rocks is a gary stu then what does that make Roger

[sage temple]

You'll get it one day

[pine ridge]

dont forget that he recruited a new totally trustworthy god blade

[digital spear]

Imu did that

[olive sigil]

Yeah given to me by oda’s sandwife

[wraith mantle]

Rocks is just a chaotic neutral.
He did some bad things, he did some good things. He doesn't lean too hard in any direction

[frigid gulch]

OP is so funny. Rocks attacks Loki but he lit up Loki’s spirit so it’s all water under the bridge

[pulsar timber]

Rocksfaiked to protect his family failed to win over his friend to help him and probably died thinking his family was dead

[pulsar path]

Lmao I hope this is the cover oda uses 😂 Ilah Mr rock scientist 😎 you got sunglasses instead of nerd glasses because of your aura

[wraith mantle]

rocks is just a pirate

[pulsar timber]

Th fandom fell for sengoku lies

[digital spear]

Its their L really

[tranquil blade]

Rocks isnt even some perfect guy he’s just absurdly strong for his era

[dense rapids]

Soon

[digital spear]

I knew Xebec could be good

[pulsar timber]

Remember when some people (Adood) thought garp and roger beat the entire rocks pirates themselves

[olive sigil]

I love how much aura this book has but the inside is the most boring shit known to man

[vestal mural]

Yea he sadly never got a break

[royal orchid]

weren't you a doubter

[urban lodge]

I hate how we don't know anything about him as a person

[wraith mantle]

holy garp wank

[sage temple]

Same especially when Loki was a Rocks believer

[alpine trench]

i love the fact that shanks and shamrocks are not introduced by garling as being his sons but on the fact that they're valuable to the cause of the holy knights, shows his priorities and emotional availability as a father

[sage temple]

🥹

[dense rapids]

“Garp and Roger didn’t 2v1 Rocks”

[wraith mantle]

why do you hate a character before you know anything about him then 😭

[tough igloo]

lmao Adood used to argue anybody who said otherwise

[urban lodge]

Because he's dead

[sage temple]

The trinity

[urban lodge]

And we didn't get that

[digital spear]

ME?

[pulsar path]

😂 it really does have aura but now I see that book as a metaphor for people! Outside can be interesting and inside is like another Nami twin 😔

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/thinking-mickey-haller-the-lincoln-lawyer-wondering-pondering-gif-14266584126811260088

[frigid gulch]

The paper was actively reporting their crimes. Morgans loves to twist shit, especially so if the WG paid him to do it for Rocks or whatever

[tranquil blade]

Yeah that was for sure cope, now I didnt expect the rocks pirates to get held off by relatively speaking nobodies until they betrayed each other

[royal orchid]

idk you're just a big doubter or a lot of stuff

[pine ridge]

yeah he really has no humanity in him

[olive sigil]

You want to see the inside?

[digital spear]

Bro do you even know me 💀

[tranquil blade]

Well I guess Graham was somebody

and he beat the shit out of Kyo

[wet condor]

https://x.com/Betas_77/status/1995045717396918689

ベタス (@Betas_77)

アニワン見てて思ったけどギャバンだけ呼び捨てなの気づいて笑った

X · Nov 30, 2025, 8:22 AM

This is funny

[urban lodge]

It's mostly how the fandom talks about him that annoys me, they talk about him like he's a hero

[distant vine]

I mean...

[urban lodge]

I've seen people say he's a better revolutionary than Dragon

[wraith mantle]

idk why you let the fandom influence your opinion

[vestal mural]

Lmao

[sage temple]

That looks like mkz_mo

Is that his alt

[stone terrace]

is this actually true

[tranquil blade]

Well the fandom is fucking dumb about a lot of things

I dont let them sway me on that

[hazy turret]

What does this say, not all of us are weebs like you are

[vestal mural]

Wait who?

[stone terrace]

captain roger
rayleigh san
gaban

[tranquil blade]

Rocks

[prisma yacht]

Xebec

[digital spear]

Is the joke that they call the first 2 Captain and San and Gaban nothing?

[analog folio]

Hey, there’s any mod here? I wanna check if I got warned, I talked about joyboy voice on #anime im sorry

[wet condor]

Dunno. I don't know who that is

[royal orchid]

I think we should listen and absorb every single opinion and theory as if it's truth

[wraith mantle]

you getting banned in 3 days

good luck

[frigid gulch]

Is it cause he wants to topple Imu

[urban lodge]

The thing is if they affect how I view a character it's because I didn't like them that much in the first place

[urban lodge]

Rocks

[digital spear]

Im surprised everyone got it

[vestal mural]

Icon knows JP?

[pulsar timber]

We do though. He’s a wildly ambitious man who was hellbent on continuing his families legacy. Then he got a family and he simmered don. He loves his friends and would go to war for them. We saw cracks in his personality when his family was in real danger. He showed a ton of vulnerability on god valley and even right before.

[prisma yacht]

lol I was wondering why no one was asking for translation

[royal orchid]

if you got warned KOYA will private message you