also-manga

[ashen perch]

Yeah anything works

[runic dock]

I call that a red herring but apparently it’s not to some people lol

[woeful moth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVXFQ-jPIY4 this shit lives free in my brain

[muted hedge]

it's hard to tell what is and what's not at this point

[runic dock]

True

[distant vine]

Its so peak. 3 Admirals playing as the OST too

Its like Summit War Saga but Good Ending lol

[woeful moth]

its so cool to see the strawhats just using canons and guns

[golden valley]

WorstGen spread the idea Shiki doesn’t get mentioned

[ashen perch]

Worstgen continues to be an absolute idiot

[runic dock]

And then people put it in my face like SEE? NO SHIKI

[golden valley]

Also, his comment was even more misleading because it never specifically said Kaido/BM/WB/Roger were the ones to become big bosses

[runic dock]

so annoying

And then he was there

[vestal mural]

Is that a person or the forum?

[runic dock]

[alpine trench]

worstgen is a person in this context

[ornate tartan]

i found out yesterday that they were claiming shanks was the eyepatch pirate

[distant vine]

When all and I mean ALL Straw Hats walk to the Empty Throne Room like this:

https://youtu.be/iJNjqKcMYGM?si=lDf8ZnIo2owiqP0E

[runic dock]

You right for doing so , it gets annoying in there , people take vague texts that obviously would get filled in a lot more as scripture

[golden valley]

Like HOLY SHIT

insane insane misinformation

[runic dock]

Fucking lmao

[vestal mural]

Yea I saw that in a video two days ago. I was so mad about it because I managed to avoid spoilers for so long

[distant vine]

Whats wrong with this

[golden valley]

[ashen perch]

its a person, the guy in the image

[alpine trench]

dawg

[golden valley]

The fact he was wrong?

[alpine trench]

leakers are the dumbest motherfuckers on the planet

[runic dock]

They missed talking about wang zhi and Shiki , they were deceiving this page

[ashen perch]

BM looks so cool there

[golden valley]

Kaido looks cooler

[ashen perch]

her and WB are radiating ACoC

Kaido, Wang Zhi and Shiki? no ACoC sadly

[golden valley]

Wait, it lowkey looks like wb and bm are fighting

Each other

[runic dock]

Kaido?

[stone terrace]

Thats actually just wbs acoc flowing into her panel

[runic dock]

Someone is baiting

[ashen perch]

in that page smh

[runic dock]

Oh lmao

[muted hedge]

what the hell, Whang Zhi already looks like a corpse

[iron oriole]

I mean... that whole "defining face of their generation" line... clearly is just like Kaido/WB/BM/Roger... people aren't caring about Wang Zhi like that

[golden valley]

He just got scarred

[runic dock]

He got a new scar , but he keeps his territory for about 37 years

[ashen perch]

they are fighting somebody but not necessarily each other I think

[muted hedge]

interesting

[runic dock]

Wang zhi held his territory for multiple decades , and this was still before Roger died

All of that is viable

[ornate tartan]

whole time this guy is saying things without even seeing the pages?😂

[golden valley]

The defining faces are all the depicted faces in the panel…

[ashen perch]

no John and Silver Axe was interesting, because in Oden's flashback John atleast was depicted as one of the big names and Sengoku called Silver Axe a big name too

[iron oriole]

I still wouldn't call him a "defining face of their generation"

[runic dock]

Some of those defining faces fought for territory as well, that includes yonko

[iron oriole]

He's a cult leader who managed to control Hachinosu

Big woop

[runic dock]

It’s talking about the whole damn page

Yall…

[strong wadi]

He is saving those faces for moria's comeback

[ashen perch]

I guess they both just didnt matter that much

maybe...

[golden valley]

A very known island

[stone terrace]

Silver axe was pretty meh to me i hope he did end up having urouges fruit at least

[golden valley]

And where the worse pirates go to

[iron oriole]

[runic dock]

This is before Roger died as well , they were defining themselves all in that era

[iron oriole]

This so called defining face got offscreened

But sure

[golden valley]

Ah, something not new in OP

Lol

[runic dock]

The one piece world spins even when we aren’t looking

[blazing mantle]

Do you think he’ll be relevant again

[runic dock]

Silver axe died and his fruit got sent to urouge

[dapper tree]

When the shiki flashback happens

[runic dock]

[ashen perch]

okay actually not sure who that guy is on the top right

I thought it was John but its unclear

[blazing mantle]

Only one person could possibly take down such a monster…

[golden valley]

Oda doesn’t know either

[blazing mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/shiki-gold-lion-one-piece-laugh-laughter-gif-21016118

[runic dock]

Still believe in the theory silver axe had Urouge’s future fruit

[muted hedge]

it's Captain Jack Sparrow

[golden valley]

Same

[blazing mantle]

It’s not a bad theory just needs more backing it

[golden valley]

Silver Axe got disrespected in GV

[blazing mantle]

Besides one moment

[runic dock]

Yeah…its basically his intro panel

And that’s it

[blazing mantle]

Fr

[ashen perch]

and again notice who is at the front

[runic dock]

He’s small gets hit and then turns big

[golden valley]

I hope Silver Axe and Shiki are alive

[runic dock]

Big enough to grab a head

[blazing mantle]

Whitebeard

[ashen perch]

and

[blazing mantle]

Big mom

[ashen perch]

correct!

[iron oriole]

Dead Mom

[blazing mantle]

What does it mean

[iron oriole]

Deadbeard

[stone terrace]

Nope

[blazing mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-rabbit-alice-gif-9929725

[runic dock]

Not kaido

So what

[ashen perch]

Big Mom and Big Fatherly Figure (WB), the two defining figures of their generation

[runic dock]

You forgot kaido

[ashen perch]

No I didnt

[blazing mantle]

Meh

[stone terrace]

Big DILF kaido

[blazing mantle]

Kaido is still a rookie atp

[ashen perch]

Kaido is kind of in the next generation

[runic dock]

Kaido is a yonko at the same time as them

Fuck off

[ashen perch]

yeah and so was Shanks

[blazing mantle]

How did shanks get back to the holy land

[runic dock]

Kaido also did everything at the same time as them

Shanks didn’t

[blazing mantle]

What did he really do

[stone terrace]

I wonder if the kaido panel will be corrected to remove his beard lmao

[pine ridge]

kaido was his own pirate when shanks was just born

[blazing mantle]

Think about it

[ashen perch]

I think this is showing that BM and WB were ahead and more at the forefront of that generation there, Kaido not quite there yet

[ashen perch]

he did have a beard then no?

I think he did

[stone terrace]

He didnt have a beard 20 years ago

[ashen perch]

I swear he had a beard when he killed Oden

[woeful moth]

Kaido is 20 years older than Shanks... yeah Kaido is from a generation before him

[iron oriole]

In this one panel, Kaido had just forgotten to shave for a week so it got a bit out of control

[ashen perch]

bad panel

you cant really see it here

[blazing mantle]

This does NOT make kaido honorable

[ashen perch]

okay this is a good one, yea no beard yet

[golden valley]

Kaido just shaved

[muted hedge]

i love Kaidos nose hair

[ashen perch]

Oda forgot about his beard and moustache so many times during Wano lol

and its still continuing to this day

[woeful moth]

Fu manchu

[iron oriole]

Facial hair comes & goes quickly, its not that big of a deal

[ashen perch]

that schedule is rough so I get it, he definitely doesnt have the time to review chapters once he is done with em

[muted hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/rosward-rosward-one-piece-one-piece-sabaody-celestial-dragon-gif-6214156066776256356

someone was a Kaido fan

[woeful moth]

dude can't decide if he likes roger or kaido

[blazing mantle]

He’s like a darker blonde but his mustache is completely black

[muted marsh]

!me?

[tropic nova]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1010993473098354830/1013039429406969866/last_final.png

[stone terrace]

To me, it's more indicative of his assistants and editor being failures

Not one of you notice that shit?

[woeful moth]

that's actually more normal than you think

[ashen perch]

he made the same mistake during Yamato's flashback lol

this was also 20 years ago

[iron oriole]

Ngl that doesn't even look like Kaido

[woeful moth]

he styles his beard differently everytime?

[iron oriole]

Theres something wrong with his face

[ashen perch]

editors especially yea, you can kinda excuse the assistants because its not really their job to keep track of the timelines and what someone looked like at any point

[woeful moth]

he sometimes has no beard, spikey beard, or flowing long beard

[ashen perch]

this is the correct version, much more Kaido like

[pine ridge]

maybe oda just doesn't care cause you can always shave/ grow your beard

[ashen perch]

his hybrid had a long beard, which Oda was drawing a lot at the time so he just confused it for his real beard

[woeful moth]

this beard resembles his hybrid form

yeah i was gonna say

[iron oriole]

Oda is the guy who named someone with only a moustache "Whitebeard" he for sure doesn't care

[muted marsh]

Thats Kaidone, his non-depressed, completely sober twin brother

[ashen perch]

forgot his moustache here

[woeful moth]

that's something with translation... he is Shirohige and they are the Shirohige pirates...

[iron oriole]

Excuses

Blame the translation smh

[woeful moth]

when they can fck up Zoro to Zolo yeah i always blame them

[ashen perch]

2nd funniest mistake of all time

[barren token]

hey everyone wghat did we thinnk of the chapter

[woeful moth]

Zolo has a so much dumber and bigger excuse

[barren token]

I thought it was really hgood btw

[woeful moth]

awesome chapter

[barren token]

LETS GO

[woeful moth]

learned alot but also added more mystery

[iron oriole]

The hand placement?

[graceful grove]

it was alright

[ashen perch]

yeah lol

[stone terrace]

Kind of funny that kaido never found out how strong harald was

[barren token]

remember when oda killed Kiku's brother and made sure Kiku never reacted

[graceful grove]

kiku never liked him

[ashen perch]

(funniest)

I dont know how nobody noticed this one

[iron oriole]

Wait what

How tf do you draw Luffys scar on Zoro

[ashen perch]

like surely an editor looked at it and thought "isn't that Luffy's scar..."

[iron oriole]

How does Oda even slip up like that?

[graceful grove]

there is not a single on on this planet that reads OP for its art

[iron oriole]

He's drawn them 1000s of times

[distant vine]

Ouch

[ashen perch]

Oda's mind works in mysterious ways

[graceful grove]

old age

[ashen perch]

false, but I wasnt talking about fans anyways

fans did notice it

[iron oriole]

Nah fuck that, muscle memory would have me drawing Zoros scar on Zoro

[ashen perch]

just baffling that it made to the chapter lol, that it got published

[woeful moth]

that's also a part of the problem

[stone terrace]

Akainu got zoro too

[woeful moth]

you draw something 1000s of times... you are bound to be wrong and have mistakes

[graceful grove]

on the grand scheme of things it's not a big deal. they know they can get away with murder

[iron oriole]

Nah surely muscle memory carries hard

[woeful moth]

that's the thing... his muscle memory said you are drawing Luffy's torso

[golden valley]

Solely for its art?

[graceful grove]

yea

[golden valley]

Yeah i doubt one does

[vale heath]

I’ll never not get jump scared by this guy that looks exactly like Zoro in chapter 1

[graceful grove]

that's pin zoro

[woeful moth]

that's Zolo

[blazing mantle]

Boro

He even has an earring too

[olive sigil]

I analyze both optical and acoustic data in boreholes and have been doing so for almost a year now. So obviously not as much as oda. And I do that at least 4 times a week and at this point the treatment comes naturally. The other day I opened my optical survey and spent close to 45 minutes looking to do corrections that are only available for the acoustic log. This is something that’s never happened but when you get into automatisms like oda does I’m sure with drawing Luffy and Zoro, it’s likely that you start doing stuff and don’t even notice that you’re doing it at the wrong place. With oda it’s normal that he doesn’t notice it, luckily for me I can’t send the data in the way that it was so it was easier for me to notice the mistake. So no I’m not surprised that oda made this mistake

[vale heath]

Automaticity is wild

I’m really glad my subconscious knows how to drive

[olive sigil]

I was looking at monster and was going to get mad at you for saying poor monster looked like Zoro

[blazing mantle]

Monsters ryuma

[runic dock]

This is actual Zoro , we got zolo

[olive sigil]

I was told that if I’m going to write the procedures to using certain tools I should do it in the first 5 years of using it because afterwards you’re working on muscle memory and it’s difficult to really notice everything you’re doing

[olive sigil]

I wish we got farafra

[runic dock]

Me too 😔

Justice for Farafra

[olive sigil]

Imagine if farafra held enma

Would his arm finally get cured

[runic dock]

His arm would disintegrate into nothing

It’s already barely hanging on

[olive sigil]

Chopper didn’t help him

[runic dock]

Chopper doesn’t have a deep sea contract unfortunately

[olive sigil]

I’m more mad at chopper for not curing farafra than the smiles

[runic dock]

[olive sigil]

I still don’t think he needed to cure the smiles

[vale heath]

Why didn’t chopper remove hundred of peoples’ devil fruits????

[olive sigil]

They’re already cured

Laughter is the best medicine

[runic dock]

Why didn’t chopper rewrite people’s dna????

[graceful grove]

there is no need to cure smiles. just laugh it off

[vale heath]

There was a guy who could do that present though.
Law just chose not to.

[urban lodge]

He's gonna do that eos anyway

[runic dock]

But yeah maybe he should have given farafra a prosthetic hand or something

Useless doctor

[graceful grove]

biggest cure he needed to find in Wano was for Minks. he saw how ass a whole race was and found a cure for it

[runic dock]

Two of you guys at max power can’t beat perospero, I can fix that for you

Wait no I can’t

[graceful grove]

cloud messed them up

and he found the cure for it

[olive sigil]

Law doesn’t help people. He was part of the organization producing the smiles in the first place. Yet people attack chopper. Bunch of hypocrites

[runic dock]

He should find a cure for Usopp

The same way

[graceful grove]

he already has. he is just delaying giving it to him

[runic dock]

Damn

[graceful grove]

he used the same cure for his dad

[olive sigil]

Too far

[runic dock]

Wow

[olive sigil]

Chopper has a lot on his hands with Sanji

[graceful grove]

death is a cure for some. i'll die on that hill

[olive sigil]

He can’t deal with the rest of stuff

[runic dock]

Okay akainu chill

[olive sigil]

Sanji needs his complete attention

[graceful grove]

he need to develop chemical castration for Sanji

[runic dock]

CHILL AKAINU

[olive sigil]

Have you seen how much sanji smokes

There’s no way he doesn’t have cancer

There’s no way they all don’t have cancer

[graceful grove]

that won't kill him. his dad was too op with the genetic modification

[olive sigil]

Chopper is barely keeping that crew alive

[runic dock]

Yeah he probably wrote out cancer in his dna beforehand

[olive sigil]

They’re all wearing wigs at this point

[runic dock]

Good job judge

[olive sigil]

We’ve seen the side effects of his leukaemia

[graceful grove]

compared to most dads in OP, judge was a good dad in the end

[olive sigil]

Those nose bleeds are not normal

[runic dock]

Evidence #12 that judge is secretly a good dad

[graceful grove]

he will give sanji his final power up too

a suit that can store conq haki

[olive sigil]

He’s the real nepo piece

[graceful grove]

Zoro can inject his coc into sanji

[urban lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-judge-judge-one-piece-vinsmoke-judge-germa-gif-4970823188149972967

[runic dock]

Don’t say it like that

[olive sigil]

Zoro can insert the coc needle inside Sanji

Better?

[graceful grove]

that's how oda want us to say it

[runic dock]

…

alright

[grand flower]

Oh my god

[graceful grove]

u were right again Shuron. Sanji is getting CoC

also wtf is up with that name xd

[sly belfry]

Hes in his durag vince era

[muted hedge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiYgq8THeAg

[bold sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/pause-gay-no-gif-15366401

[runic dock]

Wait

You know what’s interesting

If they were planning to make shanks into a holy knight and there are only 13 available spots for a contract total, it means there were spots vacant at the time or they were planning on killing someone off

[graceful grove]

demotion maybe

[muted hedge]

maybe

[runic dock]

At least yeah lol

It implies vacancy or demotion

[graceful grove]

they are surprisingly civil about that kind of stuff xd respecting competition and winners getting the prize and all dat

[hot cairn]

he's a prophet

[urban lodge]

Sea devil Imu seems more likely than ever with these contract names

[runic dock]

Yeah

[graceful grove]

somehow i blame u for this

[olive sigil]

I think it’s only the deep deep that are 13. I think they were planning to put him in the deep spot

[runic dock]

What the gorosei said , means deep sea and deep deep sea together make 13

I also assume gorosei are deep deep sea

And there are 5 of them

[muted hedge]

it'll be interesting to see what VIZ calls them

[runic dock]

So that leaves 8

[hot cairn]

https://youtu.be/zC3gzlkYpEw?si=Xt7B90eeWOuIUU8Q jumping the gun once again

[olive sigil]

Oh that sucks

[graceful grove]

guess who is at the deepest part of the sea... Davy Jones

[hot cairn]

what did I do?

[runic dock]

Oh my god what is now, morj ??

[olive sigil]

Kidd

[graceful grove]

he will be imus ultimate weapon

[muted hedge]

isn't this already debunked?

[urban lodge]

Y'know, as bad as Morj's theories were I never hated him, but that is starting to change

It's just garbage after garbage now

[runic dock]

Why does it suck in this case?

[muted hedge]

Shanks was at Elbaph after he was at Marijoa

[pine ridge]

wdym

[muted hedge]

oh wait, i am looking at it wrong

nevermind

[pine ridge]

[ashen perch]

if he is saying that it was for Nika then eh I can see it be the case

[hot cairn]

tldr: Shanks went to Marijois to look for the nika fruit (the fruit in elbaph) to give it to Roger's son

[ashen perch]

that last part is probably not true

[hot cairn]

I just recently started to believe that the fruit in elbaph isnt the nika fruit

[runic dock]

Shallow sea is like intern, everything after that counts amongst the 13 able to be closer to god (just for clarification)

Whoops I meant to post the whole panel

Smh

[ashen perch]

cause Xebec didnt know about Nika? fair but this still works even if Shanks's visit to Elbaf had nothing to do with the fruit there

[graceful grove]

shanks joins GK after encountering BB. he joins them to hunt down poor BB because that's the only ppl that would also be interested in it

[hot cairn]

yeah, the rocks stuff and also the fruit being needed to command/use the power of the galleila giants

[muted hedge]

do y'all think that Loki ate the fruit of Elbaph?

[hot cairn]

yeah

[runic dock]

I see , maybe he went to mariejois for that reason but this is all highly speculative rn , I wasn’t even thinking about the fruit reading this chapter lowkey , I wouldn’t have assumed that shanks assumes it’s in Mariejois

[urban lodge]

It's funny that people think this lessens Fisher Tiger's achievement, personally I think it only makes it make sense because it didn't anymore after the introduction of the holy knights lol

[graceful grove]

i hope not. every god damn thing in the series can't be about that Nika df

[muted hedge]

plus, it's unrealistic to think that Fisher Tiger would've managed a God Knight

[runic dock]

Yeah lol after they were introduced how would none of them have stopped him?

Answer, someone from the inside helped guide him

[urban lodge]

Yeah it's a great solution

[hot cairn]

me neither honestly

[hot cairn]

true

[vale heath]

Imu’s a demiurge, pass it on

[graceful grove]

it's more logical now. it was just FT aura farming until now

[runic dock]

I bet he’d love it if you called him that

I don’t wanna give him too much credit tho

I lowkey think he’s a fraud in a sense

[vale heath]

Well surprise twist

That’s what a demiurge is

[runic dock]

Oh shit

[urban lodge]

Everyone talks about foreshadowing but Oda is arguably better at recontextualization

[vale heath]

A false god deceiving people into thinking they’re the real one

Fraudulently

[runic dock]

Ohhhhh

I didn’t read far down enough

In the wiki

[muted hedge]

Nika is the real 'god' and Imu is the demiurge?

hence why Imu doesn't want Nika to be a thing

[graceful grove]

oda don't even know about half the things he supposedly foreshadowed

[vale heath]

I don’t know that Nika is the real one

[runic dock]

I don’t think either are true gods in our sense of the world

[vale heath]

But we can ascertain Imu definitely created a false reality

[runic dock]

Just powerful highly influential figures

[alpine trench]

He has notebooks filled with information, he does both

[hot cairn]

yeah it def makes more sense now

[graceful grove]

referring more to the fandom xd

[long basin]

I think I understand why Harald is acting as he does.

[alpine trench]

Yeah the fandom doesnt know what the fuck it talks about half the time

[vale heath]

I think one piece is pretty good

[alpine trench]

Actually, half the time is charitable

More than that for sure

[runic dock]

You don’t know what you’re talking about

[graceful grove]

when he ripped off the horns, he damaged the 2 brain cells in his head.

[vale heath]

😔

[long basin]

I think the mark itself has an increasing effect on the person who has it. the person becoming progressively more obedient/evil. that's what shanks meant when he said he wanted to talk to Harald before it was too late. But Idk why Shanks didn't seem to be effected in foosha village. so please ignore what I just wrote

[runic dock]

Burdened with guilt over his people’s history combined with the guilt of his own past actions when he was a young trouble maker , combined with the guilt of letting his friend die (no matter what people say, rocks death DID affect him)? Something like that?

[alpine trench]

[runic dock]

Oh you just mean after he got the mark

Yawn

[long basin]

yea, first guilt and then evil!

[graceful grove]

what if it did effect shanks. he went there with the intent of trucking a child into eating that DF

[muted hedge]

could this sillhouette have been a God Knight?

given Harald's death was probably orchestrated by the WOrld Goverment

[runic dock]

Maybe he meant he wanted to talk to Harald before Harald got a promotion to holy knight

But then Harald incident happens anyway

[long basin]

oh, you mean the promotion tattoo may strengthen his binding?

[vale heath]

There is a reason for Garling’s strength

[runic dock]

Yeah that’s how the gorosei implied it

[olive sigil]

Because it’s less options of people to fight

[runic dock]

The ones above god blade intern level

Have better powers and access

and immortality and possibly more influenced by imu himself

[long basin]

hmm, good point

maybe he received the promotion and his people killed him for that

[runic dock]

It could be that or domi reversi or straight imu possession lol

People now juggling all 3 options

[long basin]

the hints will tell us exactly in a few days

[muted hedge]

by the way, off topic, but do you all think that Shamrock was telling the truth here? and Loki being freed would in fact not have differed the result in the end

[runic dock]

Shamrock is confident in his strength it seems oooooh

If shanks beat loki then shamrock might be able to beat loki too

[distant vine]

Gunko slams

[alpine trench]

Slams into a rock and dies

[ashen perch]

ofc

[runic dock]

Shamrock couldn’t possibly have the objective truth there

It’s him being confident

[muted hedge]

that's what i am starting to believe

[runic dock]

Due to that part yeah

[ashen perch]

yeah but I am sure its still true, just like Shanks beat Loki, his equally talented brother would too

[runic dock]

It’s highly likely

I’ll say that

[urban lodge]

Shamrock beats him at the moment but Loki will get stronger and get a proper rematch

[pine ridge]

gunko might've died honestly

[hot cairn]

Shamrock is probably as strong as Shanks, I wouldnt be surprised

[runic dock]

Maybe this is why Oda had shamrock leave after all that

[muted hedge]

it just feels so odd if all of these God Knights that we're being introduced serve no real threat.

[runic dock]

Can’t have a guy who can defeat Loki right there

[pine ridge]

and replaced him with imu

[runic dock]

Imu has ADHD

[vestal mural]

Given that strength in OP doesn’t come from training for the most part, id say that’s true. Nepo piece is real

[runic dock]

so it’s a fair trade

[runic dock]

Bro forgot devil fruits exist

[muted hedge]

i feel like Oda has made it clear that Shanks strength doesn't come from Garling, but more so from their mother

which Garling ended up killing...

[vestal mural]

Like my goat said, haki is above all

[runic dock]

To me that’s also what it feels like

[vestal mural]

Don’t doubt nepo piece

[runic dock]

I wouldn’t be surprised if she had latent CoC

And Garling never had it

[muted hedge]

i wouldn't be surprised if their mother is the key to Shanks potent abilities yeah

and why he is a child of destiny

[urban lodge]

He's a gorosei now so I imagine he has it

Unless they all borrow it from Imu lol

[vestal mural]

lol

[runic dock]

Maybe he’s the only fraud gorosei

Or the CoC is gifted

[vestal mural]

You wanna join the gorosei? Sure here’s a mythical span and regen hacks

[runic dock]

The red hair genes coming through just makes me want to believe all the talent was in the mom

[ashen perch]

the Garling takes are going to age so poorly

[hot cairn]

Garling in the present day is probably strong af

[ashen perch]

ofc he is

[urban lodge]

He will be

[hot cairn]

people are just being idiots because he killed rocks

[runic dock]

Unfortunately 😔

[muted hedge]

probably, but it still feels like Shanks and Shamrock are being differentiated from Garlings abilties

[hot cairn]

which duh why wouldnt he

[kind raptor]

Garling slander is funny, but he's probably really strong

[vestal mural]

Ngl I hate garling being a blonde

[kind raptor]

it's like Mihawk slander

[hot cairn]

that's a good antagonist

[urban lodge]

My goat

[pine ridge]

yeah they're mad he acts like bb

[runic dock]

It’s not what anyone expected but with the mom being red now it makes sense lol

[ashen perch]

I haven't felt that at all lol

[runic dock]

I just think it would be cooler the mom was more special than the ass dad

[stone terrace]

Surely we get more of akamami right

[rose rune]

no

[vestal mural]

Gaerling did nothing wrong

[grand flower]

I really like Harald as a character man

[vestal mural]

Don’t slander his good name

[stone terrace]

She cant have been fridged without even getting a name or face

[grand flower]

So much writing going on with him

[runic dock]

Why haven’t you? We haven’t in particular seen any amazing feats from Garling?

[grand flower]

I love when Oda does nuanced characters like this

[runic dock]

Is this a lot of assumption?

[kind raptor]

I would love this because of how much I hate the whole "God's Knight genes" shit going around. Like, what are you, a Celestial Dragon?

[hot cairn]

such a well written character

[urban lodge]

Harald is amazing

[ashen perch]

I don't really care about feats, he has only fought once

[kind raptor]

I like how well-intentioned yet naive he is

[runic dock]

But this is our topic tho , how strong he is from portrayal

[ashen perch]

yea, the portrayal is him being ahead of his son

[urban lodge]

Oh yeah why do we think he thought Shanks was familiar?

[runic dock]

Which son?

Shamrock?

Due to promotion yes

[ashen perch]

he was the supreme commander, he might still be, not Shamrock

[runic dock]

That’s gifted abilities

We have only seen him use the things the contract provides so far

No less or no more

[pine ridge]

he has aura and was the supreme commander of the gods knight and was promoted. he's gotta be strong af

[ashen perch]

yeah no I am not talking about him being a Gorosei now lol

[kind raptor]

do we think Garling's gonna get demon powers now?

[runic dock]

Yeah we have still only seen him use gifted contract abilities

[urban lodge]

Of course

[ashen perch]

he was the supreme commander over his son, that already puts him ahead of the son

[kind raptor]

if he doesn't, I think we can safely assume the Gorosei are just mythical zoans

[runic dock]

I’ll reserve my opinion when I see something else

[hot cairn]

maybe the Roger Pirates went to Elbaph

[barren token]

what did we all tink of the chapter?

[vestal mural]

Yea that’s what I’m stuck on. Where could he have seen shanks or shamrock before?

[barren token]

I thought it was simplyt GREAT

[runic dock]

I’m just wondering how much of that strength is gifted , I don’t deny he’s strong

[muted hedge]

it was great

[runic dock]

Gifted abilities doesn’t imply latent talent

[ashen perch]

Oda looked the readers dead in the eye and told y'all that the guy is strong, there is no way that direct and clear of an answer is being doubted

[urban lodge]

This chapter is my 2nd 1058

[vestal mural]

How are we still talking about fraudling

[runic dock]

No, he just said there’s a reason for his strength

[kind raptor]

wasn't it the Narrator that said that Garling was strong, rather than a character?

[runic dock]

Don’t mince words

[urban lodge]

Restoring my faith in Oda

[pine ridge]

honestly could be 90% gifted but idc he's still gonna be a problem

[hot cairn]

it was prettyyyy good

[runic dock]

I agree

[barren token]

WRONG

[kind raptor]

I liked it

[ashen perch]

youre eating a chunk of the answer here

[barren token]

it was not pretty good

it was very good

[muted hedge]

one thing that honestly shocked me, was that Shamrock genuinely seems to care for Shanks not looking down upon him for being for having been with the pirate kings crew like i thought he would have

[kind raptor]

do they know that he was on Roger's crew?

[hazy echo]

People think he’s a jobber now because he got offscreen by Rocks

[vestal mural]

Cunk. What’s you’re favorite part about the chapter

[urban lodge]

Best chapter since Imu arrived on Elbaf

[ashen perch]

"He's strong" is what Oda began it with

[hazy echo]

Like father like son

[kind raptor]

and Rocks is probably the single strongest guy we've seen on screen sans Imu and Joyboy

[runic dock]

That’s the entire answer he stated full stop “there is a reason for his strength” in response to “is garling strong?” Or whatever

[ashen perch]

THIRTY EIGHT YEARS ago, doesnt matter

[hot cairn]

it was amazing

[muted hedge]

this definitely made people have bigger expectations of Garling on God Valley

[mighty shell]

maybe shamrock is a little more self aware and knows it could've been either of them who ended up raised by pirates

[barren token]

yeah but what oda tbhinks is strong and what the averager reader tuinks is strong is two different strongs

[ashen perch]

Did you see what Dragon was going through 38 years ago, he was being bullied by one HK

[runic dock]

Even shamrock was like bro chill at least heal your wounds first

[ashen perch]

its fine, 38 years is a long time

[urban lodge]

A character can get stronger in 38 years? No way

[kind raptor]

I doubt it, but Shamrock being a little honorable would be cool

[runic dock]

Not Hajrudin

[mighty shell]

38 years ago reagan was president

[runic dock]

[woeful moth]

that's so fcked up that his only match up in GV was Rocks... ofcourse he'd be destroyed

[muted hedge]

yeah, i do find that very interesting tho since it feels like the generic Celestial Dragon or even God Knight would be right up there with Shanks in this case and absolutely thrive in the idea of a possible promition in the ranks

[ashen perch]

I am pretty sure he means strong strong

[haughty saddle]

My brother… stay your hand… the slaves will be there to torture tomorrow… kisses him on forehead

[urban lodge]

Have faith in Hajrudin, he will unlock acoc soon

[runic dock]

My little late bloomer

[pine ridge]

yeah people really think losing but surviving against probably the 2nd strongest (1st after imu) being at the time is a big deal especially since he was still young

[hazy turret]

Let’s get him to unlock conq first…

[hazy echo]

Yea but this is the OP fandom were talking about

[runic dock]

Rose of Versailles type shit fr

[muted hedge]

yeah anyone who approached Rocks alone at the time would've probably been decimated at that

[kind raptor]

like I said, Garling slander is funny but it isn't really valid, like Mihawk slander

[vestal mural]

I really don’t know why but he just annoys me

[urban lodge]

I like him

[hazy turret]

He’s kinda dorky

[urban lodge]

I think we've gotten a lot of good characterization for him recently

[haughty saddle]

I’m wondering if Mihawk may also be a god blade

[kind raptor]

I really doubt it honestly

[hazy turret]

Who tf cares about mihawk breh

[vestal mural]

He’s got nothing on Loki’s redemption tho

[haughty saddle]

There’s gonna be some big connect with him at some point. There’s no way he’s JUST some guy who’s insane with swords atp

[ashen perch]

Hajrudin is a cool dude, people who are too invested in power levels dislike him but give him some time, he will get over that too

[hot cairn]

maybe you find how he treats loki annoying

[hazy echo]

Yea it’s just literally this

[hazy turret]

I don’t care about power, he’s just kinda lame

[mighty shell]

hajrudin had the best grand fleet fight in dressrosa so i've always liked him

[vestal mural]

Nah I never liked him since dressrosa

[ashen perch]

how lol

[hazy echo]

But people think you lose once and you’re a fraud

[vestal mural]

Can’t stand his face

[muted hedge]

i definitely do, otherwise caring about Zoros dream at all is a fault

[pine ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/i-care-eric-cartman-south-park-s10e13-go-god-go-part-xii-gif-21054512

[runic dock]

Oda connects everything …so having mihawk be highly disconnected from lots of things so far is highly suspicious

[hazy turret]

He’s a little too captain america idk

[runic dock]

Big lore drop for him coming

[ashen perch]

he hasnt done anything to be lame, he is just normal compared to his weirdo brother

[hazy turret]

I just don’t care for him

[mighty shell]

she doesn't like captain america 😔

[hazy turret]

He’s not COOL he doesn’t have the COOLNESS

[runic dock]

Mihawk is too Captain America? That’s a first lol

[hazy turret]

No hajrudin

[kind raptor]

real question, do we think Imu has a devil fruit or is that something else? I think it's cool either way, but it would be really funny if the final boss's fruit was literally the Akuma Akuma no Mi

[runic dock]

Ohhh

Agreeed completely

[ashen perch]

yea well he's more Captain Elbaf and thats way better because Elbaf is better

[stone terrace]

Hajrudin is simply just a grand fleet member

And not one of the better ones

[haughty saddle]

Yeah. I mean I wouldn’t hate it if he was just some dude who’s insane with it. But I just can’t see how he could be such a highly skilled, world renowned person who grew up in the era that he did without some sort of backstory. There’s context to his title and life and I’m incredibly curious now to what it is.

[hazy echo]

What if he’s just that guy

[hazy turret]

I like characters with a little more grit to em

[mighty shell]

when will i finally get my orlombus arc

[runic dock]

Same

[pine ridge]

if mihawk doesnt appear in this flashback I fear he might just be zoro's opponent and nothing more

[runic dock]

Nawww he doesn’t need to be tied to mariejois

[muted hedge]

'they've got your red hair, i hope they grow up as bright as you' definitely feels like Oda is trying to tell us something concerning her

[runic dock]

To be interesting

[ashen perch]

idk, I guess he is kinda too normal but he is still cool

[haughty saddle]

Zero chance lmao

[runic dock]

For all we know she could have been a secret Davy OR D or both

[hot cairn]

Loki way better than Hajrudin so maybe in comparison people just find him boring

[olive sigil]

But when would Harald have met her?

[ashen perch]

why would Mihawk appear in this flashback

[haughty saddle]

It’s a comedy manga not a gag manga. He’ll get a backstory, even if it’s one chapter. He’s been a titular character literally for like the entire series damn near.

[muted hedge]

i definitely feel like she is a far descendat to Joyboy or something yeah

[ashen perch]

well I guess just anybody has been appearing in the flashback, but I dont think Mihawk is gonna be relevant to it

[runic dock]

Wouldn’t be surprised if it ends up being shanks is a secret D at least , and not even he knew

[hazy echo]

You also have people that hate him because he lost to Dressrosa Luffy

[pine ridge]

nah but literally everyone got screentime in this flashback. like it's the full recent history leading up to romance dawn

[kind raptor]

wasn't Luffy like, really strong by Dressrosa?

[muted hedge]

the thing which would be very interesting then is the fact that Shamrock also would've been a D member

[runic dock]

Oden + this flashback read back to back is peak

[hot cairn]

yeah LOL, but I was trying to look for other reasons beside powerscaling

[muted hedge]

everything that is with Shanks, feels like it will be mirrored with Shamrock now

[runic dock]

Yep!…

[ashen perch]

Hajrudin was caught offguard by a Dressrosa Luffy, because he was being too arrogant and thought he had finished off Old Man Lucy

[hazy echo]

Yea it’s more like how much things have changed since then

[ashen perch]

thats all

[rose rune]

soon

[ashen perch]

theres a dozen characters who are 20x stronger than they were in Dressrosa

Hajrudin can just be one of them, it really doesnt matter

[kind raptor]

do we think we're getting another island arc after this one, or are we going straight to Lodestar or something?

[woeful moth]

its kinda a top tier feat what he did with Machvise by pure physical strength

[kind raptor]

I honestly don't think we have time for another island

[hot cairn]

like Sai who is now yonko commander level, so true

[haughty saddle]

Lodestar 4 Way Davyback Arc baby

[runic dock]

Orlumbus will be providing the heavy numbers on the good guys side in the final war

[haughty saddle]

With Racing Themed Sub-Arc

[hot cairn]

LODESTAR ARC SOON

[kind raptor]

Davyback over the Road poneglyphs

[graceful belfry]

We got time for 3

[rose rune]

next arc will be a ship jumping arc, where they fight through an armada of ships

[haughty saddle]

I had an insane idea that Lodestar is just a Davy back between the 4 yonkou but it’s like Wacky Races on some shit lmaooo

[ashen perch]

yeah he was already very impressive there just based on pure strength, people focus on him struggling when anyone would struggle in the position he had put himself into

[haughty saddle]

They just have to literally boat race

[hot cairn]

we have time for 3-4

[runic dock]

Davy back over loki and loki agrees because loki himself can’t decide

[kind raptor]

I honestly think we're like 4 years out from the end at most

[hazy turret]

Honestly, it could be possible that shanks and Mihawk started their rivalry now, if Mihawk turns out to be a HK

[kind raptor]

so unless all those Islands are Zou length, I don't think we have time

[hot cairn]

I think we're like 10

[graceful belfry]

I’ll take it

[ashen perch]

I can see the crew going through a bunch of islands together after Elbaf, if Lodestar is next

[mighty shell]

this is like 3 years before shanks meets luffy is 3 years enough to start a legendary rivalry

[haughty saddle]

I kinda thought the same

[woeful moth]

some islands can take so much shorter too

[kind raptor]

it just feels like Elbaf is the point where the fuse is lit, if you know what I mean

[ashen perch]

because I doubt the known last island on Grand Line is just gonna pop up immediately after Elbaf

[haughty saddle]

Nerona Mihawk has a slim chance of being true atp

[hazy turret]

Sanji and Zoro have known each other for two

[graceful belfry]

How I feel about Egghead but the fuse is super long

[kind raptor]

honestly real

but unless this final saga is extremely long we might have like, 3 arcs more at most imo

[runic dock]

Well gunko did announce in elbaf that this time now is the opening salvo of the war

[kind raptor]

assuming Oda sticks to his patterns

nah the whole "the world is sinking into the ocean" shit feels like lighting the fuse

[runic dock]

The first rockets have been fired

[woeful moth]

how long is the yonko saga? we can assume final saga is as long or a little longer right?

[kind raptor]

the world was given a motive, but now the guns are firing

[haughty saddle]

The Four Emperors saga was like, all of Punk Hazzard-Wano right?

[runic dock]

Yeah

[hot cairn]

I think we're going to a new island after Elbaph

[grand flower]

FMI to Wano

[haughty saddle]

We’re 2 arcs deep. We got time

We got plenty of time

[runic dock]

True cause of big mom

[kind raptor]

personally I would like to go to a new island after Elbaf, I just don't think we are

[grand flower]

Also first mention of Joy boy

[ashen perch]

this final saga is probably going to be like 15 years its fine

[urban lodge]

Final saga will be the entire last third of the story

[hot cairn]

it will be extremly long

[grand flower]

Jesus Christ lmao

[ashen perch]

yeah I can see it

[runic dock]

I wanna live to see what the one piece is

[muted hedge]

what i think we'll get in the next chapter is probably the following.

Shanks reveals to us how he was scarred by Blackbeard, maybe Shamrock is the one who scarred Whitebeard and then we get shown that Shanks stole Gryphon from Mary Geoise.. we see Loki and Hajrudin react to the death of Ida as well as Harald arriving from Mary Geoise just on the time of her funeral

[runic dock]

Idk about yall

[kind raptor]

I guess the wiki has it written wrong

[ashen perch]

started in 2022 right? 2037 is the target

[runic dock]

Don’t get me started on the wiki

[kind raptor]

cause the Wiki implies that the final saga is like the wano or whole cake saga, when it should be like the paradise / new world sagas

[woeful moth]

wiki has a lot wrong... and sometimes jumps to conclusions that is not actually there

[kind raptor]

the wiki lists the Gorosei as mythical zoans, but we don't know that

[haughty saddle]

Well, what other societies could be this close to Laugh Tale? Every island we would visit now would either have to be long abandoned or occupied by smaller villagers

[hot cairn]

he's not wrong...

[runic dock]

wiki is wrong about a lot of shit unfortunately

[kind raptor]

especially seeing as they were stated without the fruit names, just the monster names

[ashen perch]

wiki makes some assumptions yea

[pine ridge]

I view fishman island - wano as the yonko saga

[hot cairn]

me too

[woeful moth]

yeah that is the yonko saga

[cold steppe]

It's okay if the wiki is wrong. Oda will use it and it becomes correct

[dapper tree]

That's unpossible

[urban lodge]

Oh yeah apparently they don't list the BBPs as slave owners (I know who is responsible for that but I can't prove it)

[kind raptor]

honestly I still think we're like 4 years out from the end, but that's just me

[kind raptor]

BBPs?

[runic dock]

Assumes they’re mythical zoans and don’t take the obvious text implying dragon has CoC and don’t list him as a CoC user

[kind raptor]

Blackbead pirates

[runic dock]

Just a tiny example

[urban lodge]

Blackbeard pirates yeah

[hot cairn]

4 years is too little, how many arcs do you think are left?

[kind raptor]

like 3

[woeful moth]

return to sabaody is the last part of the war saga imo

[kind raptor]

idk man, I'm not 100% sure

[proud pivot]

Next arc is the final arc

[cold steppe]

I agree

[kind raptor]

it's just with the way that Oda has been cramming so much info into every chapter I think he wants to finish the story

[hot cairn]

4 years it's 120 chapters, OP aint ending in that margin

[kind raptor]

no shot

[ashen perch]

he has been wanting that since Onigashima, he just will not succeed in doing so

[kind raptor]

I think we need to see the One Piece before we fight Imu

[runic dock]

Well we don’t know his parameters , maybe he’s successfully gonna shorten it from 500 chapters left to 350 left

[kind raptor]

yeah, I guess we're in for a long one

but I still don't think it's 10 years

[cold steppe]

I hope not

[proud pivot]

As long as it reaches 1300 chapters I am fine, it's defo ending in the next 5 years though

[ashen perch]

oh yeah thats reasonable, but he is not gonna be able to reduce that to 150 chapters or something, thats just not possible

[kind raptor]

why?

[runic dock]

and that’s in his mind , so we wouldn’t be able to tell

[shell scroll]

That will probably happen is what I believe

[runic dock]

Probably not yeah

[whole pond]

anyone think there's significance to Blackbeard Pirate's ship name?

Maybe Aokiji or Jesus Burgess was Rockx D. Sebec's father and it's a tribute to their son?

[kind raptor]

have you read the manga?

[iron oriole]

One Piece is always ending in 5 years, 5 years from now it'll be ending in 5 years

[ashen perch]

anything that is in Oda's mind takes like 5 more years than what he is thinking

[cold steppe]

Luffy and his crew have to be the only ones on laugh tale. Not just find the one piece

[proud pivot]

This time is the last cus I said so

[runic dock]

It has only been listed in vivre cards and not in the manga itself as “Sabre of zebec” as in no one has ever called it out by name yet , but I do think there is big significance to it yes

[iron oriole]

Oh shit

[kind raptor]

so? that can happen without Imu being defeated

[cold steppe]

No other people

[iron oriole]

Take it back Arisu

[fluid cedar]

Yes its confirmed that aokiji is xebecs father

[woeful moth]

btw the one on the picture is not Saber of Xebec... but yeah it has significance

[proud pivot]

No

[iron oriole]

[kind raptor]

Luffy's gonna become Pirate King and then go fight Imu, imo

[shell scroll]

Yeah

[hot cairn]

only strawhats at laughtale

[kind raptor]

we might get the final fight with Blackbeard in the ocean near / on Laugh Tale

[woeful moth]

this is Saber of Xebec... the one on the picture is his pretimeskip flimsy made log boat

[runic dock]

Interesting how “Sabre of xebec” was a real hint to bb connection to zebec , even though the name has not been used in the manga once

[urban lodge]

Buggy will be on laugh tale

[ashen perch]

"I'm going to do Thriller Bark in a year or so," and it only took what, like four or five years? this kind of thing happens all the time

[whole pond]

that's even more flimsy, he removed two logs to put a platform in the middle

[kind raptor]

I think Oda is serious about shortening things now

like, one modern One Piece chapter is like 3-4 chapters of other manga

[ashen perch]

he was off by a whole year on how long WCI will be whilst he was drawing WCI, that is kinda baffling but it still happened

[woeful moth]

the one on the middle is an actual boat lmao

[hot cairn]

Oda is a fool, back in 2022 he claimed OP would end in 3 years LOL he's buggin

[fluid cedar]

Other mangas aren’t 5 pages long

[proud pivot]

The pacing really picked up during elbaf yea

[iron oriole]

Ngl BB smart af for this... those logs will tank any cannon balls shot at them

[kind raptor]

I mean in terms of content, not page count

[ashen perch]

oh yea, and in 2019 he claimed he could end the series in 5 years lol

[runic dock]

Turned a stupid idea into a smart one , since it was originally just a makeshift raft forreal

[hot cairn]

he's a fool

[urban lodge]

Tbf he only said that 3 years were his goal but he knew he lost all credibility with those predictions

[ashen perch]

he went back immediately on his 3 years goal tbf

[runic dock]

People shouldn’t be asking those questions anyway , that’s so limiting to an author

[ashen perch]

he said he wont be giving any timelines anymore, and fans should just enjoy the ride cause its not ending as soon as they think

[kind raptor]

10 years is just too much

[runic dock]

I would be highly annoyed by them

If I was Oda

[kind raptor]

honestly same

[iron oriole]

He needed that reminder of his humble beginnings of being a rafty boy

[fluid cedar]

Best thing he does is not extend fights in the manga to last multiple chapters

[urban lodge]

10 years is very likely

[whole pond]

luffy realized they needed to get stronger before the new world so thats why he extended the 3 years into 2 decades

[woeful moth]

Oda said 5 years remaining on One Piece... THAT WAS 5 YEARS AGO

[runic dock]

Don’t fucking ask me when exactly my 30 year long epic saga is gonna end that’s not how it works

[fluid cedar]

Oda is not a reliable source

[ashen perch]

he brings it up by himself too tbf

[whole pond]

and after one piece ends they're gonna cash in and do a gol d roger prequel

[runic dock]

It’s stupid if he does , it serves nothing and no one

And only stresses the author more

[shell scroll]

Hell yeah

[woeful moth]

a Joyboy prequel, Gol D. Roger prequel, a Shanks prequel

[kind raptor]

I just want the Void Century flashback before we fight Imu

I feel like if Imu is beaten before we even know anything about them that would be shit

[whole pond]

will happily read/watch each and every of those

[woeful moth]

can also have a Blackbeard POV of the story

[kind raptor]

Oda is going to finish the last chapter and then evaporate

I know I would

[barren token]

guys thoughts on chapter?

[proud pivot]

Good/10

[kind raptor]

I love how much Shanks is hamming it up lmao

[whole pond]

have to say love how they do flashbacks from different perspectives.

Seeing in the original run of luffy getting run over by kuma, how intense he looked, vs. kuma's perspective recently how scared he looked

[shell scroll]

Cuz of L harald

[iron oriole]

He'll probably retire from drawing manga other than maybe some oneshots

He's earned it

[ashen perch]

I know I'm the one who has fanned the flames by saying "it's the final chapter, it's the final chapter", but it won't be over as fast as I say, so I hope you will relax and read it with ease.

cant wait for him to go back on it again and mention another timeline in this jump festa for some reason

[woeful moth]

LITERALLY... best selling manga of all time...

[hot cairn]

look @kind raptor this quote is what makes me think the 10 years thing lol

[ashen perch]

speaking of that, we're close to the new JF

only like what, 18 days?

wonder what he will say

[woeful moth]

he's earned the travel all over the world with his family

[hot cairn]

another message that wont make sense🔥

[kind raptor]

not a bad argument, I just think it won't be 10

8 at most

[urban lodge]

More statements about "that man doing that thing" soon

[ashen perch]

you gotta give it time, remember, the Vivi/Sabo/Boa message took him like 3 years to get to it

[kind raptor]

I just can't see us going on a normal adventure with the world in it's current state

[proud pivot]

7 because there are 7 wonders of the world

[hot cairn]

Oda making another isolated arc in the final saga is so funny, I really thought cutaways would be the norm

[iron oriole]

"Did you guys see that person & that person?!?! It was so good right?!! Well just wait... it gets better once that person starts to move properly"

[hot cairn]

wild

[kind raptor]

can't wait for Vivi to rejoin the crew

[hot cairn]

guess I was wrong

[fast pagoda]

We might get a cutaway soon

[proud pivot]

Can Loki join the crew please? It would be much more fun

[latent hamlet]

imagine vivi rejoins the crew but like in a rpg where the old party member rejoins but with a fuckton of levels

[fast pagoda]

Wano had cutaways

[kind raptor]

I will always be a Vivi Conquerer's Haki truther

[urban lodge]

Acoc peacock slashers

[kind raptor]

she may never awaken it but she 100% has it

[ashen perch]

Wano Country Arc is finally entering its last rush!! I've drawn this arc precisely because I wanted to draw these scenes! And then, Sabo...! Vivi...! Hancock...! Ahhhh...! Yes. - December 2019

Sabo's status finally addressed - July 25, 2022
Boa's status finally addressed - September 12, 2022
Vivi's status finally addressed - September 20, 2022

basically, just give him some time, 3 years maybe

he will get to it

[latent hamlet]

vivi rejoins with ACOC and peacock is renamed to Phoenix

[hot cairn]

perhaps

[ashen perch]

its funny, he even said "man I am surprised that Wano is still ongoing" in one statement

like my brother youre the one who is drawing it

what are you talking about

[kind raptor]

he probably has the broad strokes but doesn't have each chapter planned out

that's the only way this makes sense

[hot cairn]

wild

oda is a fool

[latent hamlet]

oda: jesus christ i made this story way too fucking big huh

[kind raptor]

like, he knows the series of events but not exact chapters

[proud pivot]

Hopefully the ending is not rushed, I feel like it will be though

[stone terrace]

Oda lost control of the story

[golden valley]

Oda cant control his characters

[stone terrace]

When hes 75 wondering where the time went

[golden valley]

Confirmed

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-gif-7523306793289960933

[hot cairn]

I think the ending wont be rushed because he has been taking his time so far

[ashen perch]

Even if he has things planned on paper, (which he does mostly, he literally has big ass arc notebooks,) he has no way of knowing how long it would take to get to everything

[hot cairn]

the fact that Egghead and Elbaph exist

tells me we'll be fine

[latent hamlet]

nah the ending will be rushed, even if oda dies, comes back to life, dies again, and oda2 works on it
because people will complain

[azure warren]

Does anyone watch romance animes?

[ashen perch]

better to ask that in #other-series

[woeful moth]

the only thing that makes him wanna finish his manga faster is probably the original VAs of strawhats getting older especially Luffy's

[hot cairn]

people complaining doesnt mean the ending will be rushed

[hot cairn]

I really wanna see those ngl

[ashen perch]

we have seen bits and pieces from them

[fast pagoda]

Oda is always talking like he doesn't write the story lmao

[iron oriole]

Its gonna get even worse for them now that OP is moving to seasonal next year

[latent hamlet]

didnt he say something along the lines of "the characters just did it that way"

[woeful moth]

like... it would be a travesty if Mayumi Tanaka doesn't voice the final scene of Luffy

[ashen perch]

all those sketches on the back of the vivre cards, or in the color walks, or the One Piece magazine, its all from Oda's notebooks

[latent hamlet]

like he's not even the writer anymore he's just being like "listen the story dictates this"

[hot cairn]

yeah @ashen perch do you have the message that says he created another route without having to go to elbaph but the characters just went there? LOL

[ashen perch]

it still depends on Oda really, if he is able to move the story to its end in 10 years, I am sure the anime will speed right ahead to its end too

[hot cairn]

ohh nice nice

[vale heath]

Luffy has defeated IRL governments

[iron oriole]

Sure but thats still 10 years of going at the pace of seasonal animes

[ashen perch]

If Luffy and crew manage to make it out of Egghead safe and sound...do you think they might go to...THAT island? I mean, I thought up a route for them that doesn't involve it but...I'm not sure I could stop Luffy, even if I wanted to. If they do go, you know that means there's gonna be a no-holds-barred struggle to obtain...THAT THING!

[iron oriole]

Luffys VA is 70 now... another 10 years will be cutting it close ngl

[ashen perch]

I forgot that last part

[hot cairn]

@latent hamlet look at that mf saying he doesnt control the characters lol

[proud pivot]

That thing

[hot cairn]

yeah me too

[ashen perch]

10-12 more years is probably going to be fine

I hope so atleast lol

[hot cairn]

maybe he's talking about the road poneglyph

[ashen perch]

maybe, we have no sign of it yet though

its just been a struggle to obtain Elbaf itself

maybe thats what Oda was talking about lol

[proud pivot]

Maybe Gyaban will give Luffy that thing later cus he asked Luffy to talk to him later

[ashen perch]

And last but not least...the long-awaited clash between THAT PERSON and THAT OTHER PERSON just might have an unexpected outcome!! same statement

[vale heath]

Maybe Luffy will hawk tuah

Just like Whitebeard did

[ashen perch]

this is December 2023, so by the 3 years rule, the next year is the ONE

[proud pivot]

Harald and Rocks is the clash of the year

Imo

[vale heath]

The clash between Arisu and Arsal

[ashen perch]

he was talking about a long awaited one, its gotta be Shanks and BB

[vale heath]

🍿

[hot cairn]

Luffy vs Imu?

[hot cairn]

ah

[proud pivot]

It's wraps for Shanks since we're seeing his flashback now

[ashen perch]

Shanks v BB 2026, its happening

[woeful moth]

Shanks and Shamrock

[wraith mantle]

The clash is probably rocks vs Roger and Garp

[woeful moth]

That Shanks and that other Shanks

[ashen perch]

its only 2 people

[icy wolf]

if it is shanks definitely dying, blackbeard winning is 100% the unexpected outcome

[ashen perch]

so cant be a 2v1

[wraith mantle]

Rip

[urban lodge]

Shamrock vs Dragon or whoever is invading Mariejois

[hot cairn]

how is this possible if we're still in Elbaph

[ashen perch]

cutaway

[proud pivot]

I am fodder

[iron oriole]

Speak for yourself, BB victim been a BB victim for ages

[ashen perch]

the unexpected outcome is Shanks actually living

[urban lodge]

That's why Shanks will solo the entire crew before losing to some bs

[wraith mantle]

From a story perspective, is it better for shanks to die or live?

[urban lodge]

They take the frog guy as a hostage or something

[proud pivot]

You forgot Kuzan is in the crew

[sturdy steeple]

MJ is also at fire and yet Imu is at Elbaf having fun.

[wraith mantle]

Luffy needs to return the hat no?

[urban lodge]

Kuzan is a Koby victim, it's fine

[iron oriole]

He can return it to his grave

[wraith mantle]

Damn that’s hard

[proud pivot]

Ok penny I didn't know you were like that

[ashen perch]

Joyboy's descendant is living and he is going to be at the final war, fighting Imu

[proud pivot]

!rmd 5y laugh at Kuzan vs Koby truthers

[urban lodge]

Wdym? I've been saying this for years

[hot cairn]

it might not be as serious as we think if he's just chillin in elbaph

[ashen perch]

Imu actually has a stronger chance of killing Shanks honestly

[iron oriole]

Too bad Imu wont get a chance

[ashen perch]

killing Joyboy, then killing his descendant

[proud pivot]

Yeah everyone knows Luffy will be at the final war

[wraith mantle]

I think Imu is gonna dip soon
He might domi reversi Loki before leaving

[vestal mural]

That would actually be fire

[iron oriole]

The chapter that i see Shanks standing in front of BB, its a wrap

[ashen perch]

Luffy is just Monkey D. Pao's descendant

[latent hamlet]

Plot twist
He's actually just exploring laugh tale

[grand flower]

I admire what you’re doing

[latent hamlet]

Every1 is like WHERES LUFFY
Luffy: oooh a laugh tale rock

[wraith mantle]

Who Tf is Pao

[ashen perch]

is that not clear from the message

he is Luffy's ancestor

[graceful grove]

genuinely might not happen now

[iron oriole]

Cope

[hot cairn]

never stops

[urban lodge]

He's Luffy's Vinsmoke Romeo

[wraith mantle]

Is he related to Romeo vinsemok?

[proud pivot]

I think Luffys chances of being joyboys descendant have increased since we found out BB is Davy jones descendant

[graceful grove]

what cope?

[ashen perch]

I am actually not fully sure what you mean

I seriously believe in it, Shanks IS Joyboy's descendant

[graceful grove]

i'll be happy to see BB stomp on shanks xd but Oda won't allow that

[wraith mantle]

That means shamrock is too

[ashen perch]

yeah

[iron oriole]

BB is the only one allowed to

Scarred him pre DFs

[final trench]

^

[latent hamlet]

BB beats shanks and is like "zehahahaha. You might have had a chance before I got my fruits but its too late!"

[final trench]

He’ll do it. But there will be tears in his eyes while drawing

[sturdy steeple]

Well, Imu announces that they really need to get giants ASAP.
Jokes aside, I do think the matter is serious. But there are Holy Knights and Gorosei (maybe even admirals) to handle such matters.

[proud pivot]

Imu is too busy battling broggys mighty arm

[urban lodge]

Dragon vs the baby he failed to save

[wraith mantle]

If Imu came to elbaf to ask these niggas why they are taking too long, then it’s reasonable to assume whatever is happening in the holy land is above what the elders and holy knights can handle and Imu needs extra support

[hot cairn]

fair enough, but the giants is for the world war, not like using them right now

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/blackbeard-trafalgar-law-gura-crush-law-blackbeard-vs-law-gif-1276723233884227469

That boy teach came from the top rope

[wraith mantle]

I honestly think shanks and dragon alliance attacked the holy land

[proud pivot]

Buddy doesn't want to leave his room for even a second 😭💔

[ashen perch]

So basically, I think Shanks is the descendant of Joyboy as well, just as BB is the descendant of Davy. As Oda's philosophy with these things often dictates, the true bearers of the father/ancestor's will are not going to be the descendants. The child of destiny Shanks won't fulfill Joyboy's will, Luffy will. Teach won't fulfill Davy's will, Buggy will. This actually works better if Buggy has no familial connection with Rocks. This will also play into the Shuggy dynamic but I'm not fully sure how.

as I said before

[final trench]

He dont got his real body

[sturdy steeple]

That’s possible but he needs giants in general as he wants to enhance his defenses.

There are 4 emperors, revos and other nuisances to fight against.

[vestal mural]

I was too busy drooling over what is essentially a shanks vs dragon fanfic to think of that
You’re so right

Oda is a bad writer if he doesn’t make it happen

[wraith mantle]

Yeah in a long term perspective

One thing for sure tho, Imu is not having an extended clash with Luffy just yet

[sturdy steeple]

Yep, the whole worlds now knows that the flood is about to happen. Most will rebel against WG. Giants is a decent countermeasure.

[icy wolf]

a figarland

[sturdy steeple]

I think Luffy will meet Imu face-to-face this arc but we won’t obviously get an extended fight.

[ashen perch]

his mother is not a Figarland

[hot cairn]

Luffy meeting Imu

[icy wolf]

shanks mom is a joyboy descendant then?

[proud pivot]

Imu will do something evil before leaving elbaf infront of luffys eyes and Luffy will yell at him

[sturdy steeple]

This arc honestly setups BB more than WG lol

[ashen perch]

yeah

[hot cairn]

get ready @grand flower

[proud pivot]

What if we cut away to the fight being already over and half of the strawhats are dead cus loki took long and everyone got interested in the story

[wraith mantle]

And if Imu (the only person that can be considered a threat to Luffy atp) leaves elbaf, we still needs someone for Luffy to fight

Imu will probably domi reversi Loki or Zoro or Sanji before he dips

[hot cairn]

not gonna happen but sounds really funny

[sturdy steeple]

I’m afraid domi-reversed Zoro would solo the entire verse…

Jokes aside, I need Loki to get domi-reversed.

[hot cairn]

I could see domi reversi Loki

[sturdy steeple]

Liberating people by punching the hell out of them does sound like something Luffy would do.

[wraith mantle]

Yeah he will be a real threat
DR Loki is probably Roger level

[solemn reef]

I hope this is not the plot

[wraith mantle]

It’s real

[solemn reef]

If thats the case it’s a shit manga

[urban lodge]

Davy killed Lily

[solemn reef]

Ur telling me Imu wants to control the world because he could not get Vivi

No way this show can be this shallow

[sturdy steeple]

Lily disappeared in sea, right?

Amazon Lily is so real

[vale heath]

https://tenor.com/view/zoro-gif-20520187

[solemn reef]

I wonder who is Rayleighs children because Gaban has a kid I hope Rayleigh has one to too so did Roger

[urban lodge]

I'm setting myself up for disappointment again but I don't care, Davy should be evil

But he will probably be a wholesome 100 reddit chungus

[latent hamlet]

The demon eye to unleash 10 sword style

[sturdy steeple]

I don’t need him to be evil specifically

[vale heath]

10 isn’t a multiple of three…

[sturdy steeple]

Just an interesting character lol

[vale heath]

30 sword style

10 swords in each hand

Mouth-hand

[sturdy steeple]

I don’t think he does, really.

[solemn reef]

So u telling me Rayleigh didn’t hit that

[sturdy steeple]

Boa grew up with Rayleigh and Shakky after running away from MJ. That’s his closest person to a daughter.