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but as far as meaningful interactions go jinbe has plenty and some of them are the best of all shs
I agree
But that is the whole original point
one of the dumbest things i've read in this chat so far and i've read some dumb things here
He's more of strawhat than vivi ever was
I wouldn't welcome vivi with open arms, idk why you would say that
According to my Y/N fanfic I am luffy's best friend and secret childhood friend, can I join the crew?
Yes
???
hell nah, I’m glad he doesn’t
Dont talk about Sabo like that
your WHAT
Is shanks a straw hat now? He saved luffy's life
its a complaint i've had about the strawhats for a while, its just more apparent when you look back at someone like jinbe since he hasn't been on the crew that long
Y/N -> Your Name, i.e. self insert
jinbe in mf to fmi just solidified him as the best strawhat for me, his character moments are unmatched then he's also goating in wci later
you would accept her
holy shit weebcentral sucks so hard
a little bit
??? What does this have to do with the point?
Also I said imu brother
I misread that as "im a vivi gooner"
mb
LOL
I remember I tried to use comick and almost got a virus
LOOOOOOL
Ok to be clear
I am not saying Jimbei isn’t a strawhat
I am just saying he doesn’t have the vibes. He doesn’t have any interesting dynamics or interactions or moments with most of the crew members
Jinbe doesnt feel like a strawhat now lol
Mosakoushi
He’s literally the fish out of water, I think that’s the joke
wait a second.. "also..." So you acknowledge your feelings but you clarify on that particular statement
why?
Imu is gay
??? It was originally a joke cuz nefertari in context
Uploads can be slow, chapters can be slow to load and its not the best design wise are things ive heard
what actually consist of interesting dynamics to you?

dawg
waiting for the pages to load for like 15 minutes now because I want to send something
its so over
it always works fine to me ngl
this is patently untrue like empirically untrue to a degree that's not even funny
Never had this issue ngl
So a YC skill issue
Website might be tweaking
I’ve never had that problem
Or its YC
I think Jinbe feels like a strawhat, I just hope he gets a fair amount of "screentime" from here on. Honestly my only complaint about some of these larger scale arcs is the attention between characters get split so much some just barely get anything. Sometimes I like the slightly smaller scale arcs more for that reason
GOOD FOR YOU.
LOL
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Is the Jinbe argument settled?
I guess it just feels more personal when it's just the strawhats and a few other characters, probably my only real reason I prefer the pre-timeskip arcs
idk maybe
but it's not completely gone now either, just diminished comparatively
yes. Jinbei feels the most strawhat that ever strawhatted and whoever says otherwise is wrong
jinbe has the vibes bro his joke about brulee and the weird train guy being part of the number when he expresses how many allies they have to face big mom was really funny
Yeah
Spice said slice of life stuff and I think he nailed it
Realest shit ever
Idk maybe its personal standards fo what people view as a valid straw hat
I think he meant vibes with the crew
yes I think that type of joke has crew vibes
I feel like Jinbe has earned his spot. He’s gone above and beyond to earn his spot on this crew
jinbe wasn't able to experience the adventure arcs from early one piece and oda will never doing that again
this one
Which is unfortunate
that’s really funny
Jimbei is so silly
Jinbe sneaking food behind his back is a less known gag since Amazon Lily
I love him
good enough gag ill take it
He holding emergency rations in the front tho
elbaf could've easily been an adventure arc tho but I'm just glad oda is rushing instead of exploring
the lego land part of elbaf feels so bizarre in retrospect
did oda just want that lego collab
That was a fun segment
heaven realm is real
No I think Oda just wanted to have fun
I expected elbaf to be like water 7 for usopp
and there was some foreshadowing in there too
uta urouge kid and shiki are all waiting up there
he was just feeling silly
bro the lego colab it was just a big ass ad
I believe it was a good set up to explore how a lot of the giants view the Nika situation.
legoland
ok it worked thanks
I wanted to say, why do people think a character who did stuff like this with the crew 15 years ago not feel like a crewmember yet
I also really miss having a strawhat that would just laugh about the antics of the rest of the crew instead of everyone being a straightman for each other.
Zoro used to find Luffy's bullshit funny and laugh like this. Since zoro became a stoic straightman, its really nice to have someone like jinbe back. Brook does it too, but brook does it in his goofy skulljoke manner.
legoland is basically a microcosm of Elbaph as a whole, especially the underworld
at this rate oda's gonna explain in an sbs how its just the top of the tree and theres nothing special
Yeah I love Jinbe man, tired of people disrespecting him
lets talk about how high elbaf is
I love jinbei too just wished we saw more of him
We’ve seen plenty of him.
yup that too lol. A lot of good crew interactions. I think a lot of people forget fishman island exists
pretty high
yeah but i have some numbers
Not compared to the rest of the crew
“Was that supreme king haki?” LMAO one of his funniest moments
I mean can we really get much higher
He’s the last member, no duh
Foreshadowing btw
Yeah but it's a bit of a large gap imo, I think its brook who came before him iirc? and we had a lot more time with him
one of the better crewmate jokes yeah lol. Even his willingness to laugh at the crews jokes is being straightmanned by nami 
so sky islands can only spawn at 10k meters above water not counting egghead ofc
balloon terminal was 10k and also skypiea
if theres already sky island clouds in sun realm then heaven realm is like 20k meters high
If Arsal was here he would say “forshadowing for Nerona Nami”
That’s why some people think he feels less of a strawhat
Other members had more screen time together
Experienced crew drama moments like water 7 and enies lobby
We’ve seen Jinbe in Impel Down, Marineford, and Post War. 3 arcs where none of the other crew members were in. In real time this was what? Like 3 years without the other straw hats or something?
We then had more time with him in FMI, WCI (where half of the crew was on Wano) and then Onigashima, Egghead, and Elbaph
poor Jinbei lol
Oh no I was making a reference to that one piece meme from the covid era
Brook didn’t see that stuff. Is he any less of a straw hat?
It's foreshadowing for Nami conquerors haki of course 
"brook doesnt feel like a strawhat" discussion happened for a while too. Although that one feels a bit more reasonable since the crew split up the very next arc after his introduction
Crew drama moments like Jinbe seeing Luffy’s reaction to Ace’s death? Pulling Luffy out of his depressive state? I feel like those more than make up that other stuff
LMAO yeah
Brook has the silly crew vibes tho so he kinda fits and compensates for that
I guess its also partly that jinbei never felt like a main character if that makes sense? There is at least one arc where each straw hat was kinda highlighted but it never felt the same for jinbei.
Because we’ve gotten Jinbe’s character throughout MULTIPLE arcs, not just one. We’ve seen his origin, how he became who he is now, and what he learned from the Sun Pirates
I will admit, I did not give Fishman Island the most fair chance the first time around. It's one of those arcs I probably do need to read instead of watching the anime at some point
That boy brook gets glazed these days
I dont think he felt any less of a main character than pre enies lobby robin, or brook.
But yeah, shirahoshi took the spotlight for Jinbe's big focus arc
Wait was that actually a thing back when Brook joined?
it was a thing up until WCI
being silly compensates for missing out on core crew moments?
Brook won people over in WCI
This is kinda exactly what I'm saying, if jinbei took on a bit of fisher tiger's role he would feel a lot more like a real straw hat, thats just my opinion though
See that only involved him and Luffy
I am talking about the entire crew as a whole
im sure it happened for multiple strawhats at a certain point
They literally lose if brook isnt with them for whole cake
brook also spoiled us that zoro has CoC
Vibes ain’t an exact science
So yeah it can
Prime lebron performance
I honestly do think the anime was really bad for a lot of the timeskip arcs; definitely was not the best way to get through the series
What core crew defining moments was Brook there for? I have some in my head but I’m curious to hear what you’ll say
idk, nami felt like a strawhat before arlong park even though she technically wasnt yet.
Its a tough discussion to have there
That’s very inconsistent and heavily biased
@glossy lotus
Need to reread fmi because I am sure Jimbei shined there
Literally there
Of course Ida gets the backstory mother disease
True but thats because nami already had a strong camaderie imo
Like of course
His entire side quest to get the rubbings
Yep
Tbf there was poison involved too
So at least it's not JUST disease
Also now getting focus again because of gunko
Since he's likely to snap her out of it
Brook has a lot of thriller bark to himself to define him and then also had way more time than jinbei in terms of character interactions. he also has his classic laugh and gag, but that might not be relevant to what you are looking for.
Fisher Tiger is a legendary figure that dies in a flashback and inspires a strawhat
Sabaody
WCI
Binks sake but that may not count
I know, but I wish jinbei was a bit more involved in the flashback than hordy or fisher
Now elbaf
What crew defining moments happened at WCI that’s comparable to the entire crew arguing on the Merry at W7?
For example, luffy being inspired by shanks was cool, but his other backstory with asl made it way better
I guess its hard if the flashback isnt about childhood
Brook getting a 2nd flashback that sanji treatment
And tbf
Nami for example feels more of a strawhat than brook because she a strawhat longer and was there from the very beginning
You know oda loves your ass
W7 was the pinnacle lowk nothing is prolly gonna get close from here on out in sheer character building
At that point
im so ready
I agree
Well Brook has quite a lot he can offer with him being technically insanely old
So then longevity is what constitutes how much of a straw hats you are?
brook will clearly clash with nasujuro
both ice swordmen 
No she also had the arlong park arc
The panty joke is the only issue
People who dont like the panties joke and define him as that joke
I think every straw hat should have had at least one arc heavily about them is my point
I dont love the joke personally but I know there's more to him
Jinbei was overshadowed in his own flashback, felt like Oda was tryna go in too many directions
Longevity
Being involved in important crew moments like water 7 and EL
Vibes
It’s a multi variable equation
Brook only has vibes then. That’s an inconsistent thing to base how “worthy” someone is to be a crewmate
And not fair to Jinbe
crazy how yall gate keeping what a strawhat is
Jinbe is as much of a straw hat as Brook is
No one is gatekeeping anything, the point is that jinbei doesn't feel as straw hatty as the other straw hats
I like jinbei more than some of the straw hats in fact
He just doesn't feel much like a straw hat idk
Ok i'll do that when I have time
What’s it about
jinbei probably...
Just jimbei or a specific thing about him
Probably a character analysis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w7YFnZL2Uk
is it this? @glossy lotus
Yes
I think it does a good job at explaining how I feel. Jinbe’s backstory and focus, while it may not be directly in one arc, is told over a series of arcs in preparation for his joining of the crew
I know, it’s long. But I think it’s very put together
We love brook
I love all the straw hats equally
Yeah she’s a pretty good content creator
He has not don’t shit for the past 500 chapters 😭
Yeah I don't personally share that view
L take
as characters
Don't come back when he saves everyone via soul music
I like Luffy more
Praying on second backstory
Usopp getting his character dev stolen in his own arc
seems like hes gonna start getting a bit more focus soon because of recent hints
from how whats her name is a fan etc
Gunko
Completely forgot gunko was a fan ngl
Well she's a fan and it seems implied that she met Brook during her childhood
Even a small chance Brook is her father
How would she be a cd then?
Though probably not by blood
I'm p sure her dad is a manmayer
Oh ok
Completely forgot about that story line
easy to forget with a year of flashbacks
Yes and everyone thought it would show up now
Longest flashback in the series yet
Maybe there’s another flashback later
And it's so peak imo
It really is so good
I think this flashback is gonna end with the castle incident. Idk if Oda will show everything Loki does after until later
How long ago was the castle incident
14 years ago
its only been like 14 chapters tbf but there have been more breaks this year than most years iirc
Lokis been chained up all that time right? I forgot
No he was gone between 14 and 6 years ago before being beaten by Shanks and brought back to Elbaph
He's been chained ever since he was brought back to Elbaph though
Yeah it just hit the longest, I was anticipating it when I realized Oda was actually gonna show the God Valley incident in almost it's entirety
very funny how many people were hyping up the cliffhanger of roger and garp vs rocks. I said "its gonna fastforward to his death next chapter" like oda often does with flashback fights
and lo and behold 
Goda for showing as much of the fight as he wanted to, hope the anime does it justice
I knew it wouldnt be a long fight at least, Oda is never gonna do a super drawn out fight in a flashback to the degree of say Luffy vs Kaido or something
this is the only downside of oda intentionally leaving fights out of flashbacks
toei doesnt understand scaling bro...
they fill it in with bullshit..
Yeah I hope toei gets it right this is actually important
I dont think its actually important
its jsut annoying for discussion more than anything
I mean it's kind of fun sometimes lol but toei does a lot of crazy shit too, Zoro vs King looked like a clash between emperors in the anime
Loki breaking records with his flashback
Yeah I just want to watch the anime to get hyped about the fight
garp vs aokiji was cool for example, but I think they changed garp's attacks for anime
Garp was using shockwaves in manga and in the anime they had him dropping actual explosive looking power
It's really funny when the actual animators of the episodes start putting in their two cents as well
Oh yeah, this flashback is a long one
Like I think Vincent Chansard was talking about Luffy vs Kizaru and said something like "I'm pretty sure Luffy didn't use conquerors haki in that fight" or something like that
yea he said the only time he uses aconq was white star gun
Didn't Vincent say he was excited for Loki and Rocks
Yeah
I wonder if it’s gonna be the longest or void century gonna surpass that
Nice I'm glad we got something cooking
Yeah there are some other potential longer ones
Animator headcanon vs regular reader headcanon
Best sitting animation money can buy
Followed by getting stabbed
Fr
Void century I feel is pretty likely to surpass it
I wouldnt get hyped till after the flashback
Followed by summoning a bolt of lightning at 1hp
For loki atleast
Followed by destroying an entire village singlehandedly
Oda just has him talking
I could see the Void Century taking upwards of 25 chapters to cover
After all of GV
I also think that but who knows
Yeah
Which i think most anime online will see as tame in comparison
After the rocks fight
😭
Followed by Loki basically killing someone with the Abyss powers
Harald
lol
Immortality
Literally saw Brother's hand never grow back
void century will pass it. The current flashback has a lot of established lore and characters filling in the blanks. Void century flashback will be constantly introducing new things exclusively. And even the returning characters will need their stories individually fleshed out (zunesha, joyboy, robot guy)
Just pieced back together
Domi Reversi still gives them some Abyss powers
Arm still just floating
If the Mural actually shows the Void Century instead of the future I'm excited to see the Loki look-alike back then
Void century will already have a lot to cover with just Joyboy, Davy and Imu. Let alone Joyboy's crew and the ancient kingdom and Lili and the 20 kingdoms
Is it tho?
To regen ?
Considering domi reversi doesnt give you regen
Id say its different
we dont need lookalikes for everyone. We dont need everyone to be reincarnations of existing characters from the void century. Inherited will is enough alone
It does though?
This is definitely Abyss related
The Abyss powers aren't just regen
Id say it is but your arm doesnt grow back
He got his arm shot before regeneration so it didn’t regenerate.
Which is why I'm saying they dont get regen
I meant before he got his powers
Well his hand regained function
The thing is that idk if any of the regen powers can heal wounds dealt before they are actually granted immortality
It was able to be used by him
Which might be why Brogy's arm is just floating there
The same way Gorosei still have scars
Rocks had a haki force field
So hard to tell wtf was going on with his body
https://x.com/pewpiece/status/1994367076048527698?t=woCrx6l-nnjfMW4CCHLayQ&s=33 have you all seen this
Peak
Yeah, it’s amazing
what do they mean official
then its not official coloring
Probably not
It’s from an exhibition iirc
I mean, looks like if you blow them to smithereens, they'd be down and dead
Well, clearly we see the robotic figure is in 🇺🇸 colors which represents franky, so that's a confirmation 
Okay?
There's really not much color to talk about there I guess, but it's interesting
Wait Domi Reversi does grant regen
What am I thinking
Rocks regenerated
Well yeah
I thought we established that lol
You don’t regenerate your injures that you got before abyss powers.
Hence Dorry’s hand did not regenerate.
Insteresting he can still kinda use his hand at least
But it sucks knowing we have yet another armless character lol
dorry’s arm is just that mighty
Even more of a feat Loki killing Harald is
The mightiest some might say
At least it wasn't Dorry who lost his arm...
I agree….
i wonder if dorry has any mighty appendages
wehat?
Tbh if I were Brogy I’d make a cool ass axe arm in the future
Well since Brogy has his mighty arm, surely Dorry has his equivalent
So not everything is lost
stealing captain morgan’s whole flow
Leg
Anybody else notice this suprise zombie from thriller bark look 😒 familiar
Dorry's mighty knee
Wait??? Two 56????
There’s another fruit that fits the 5-6 pattern as legendary as Gomu fruit? Goda??????
add 2 to 5 then swap the numbers…
franky??
Inu and Neko are Dorry and Broggy as minks so Dorry lost his leg like Inu
He hasnt lost it yet
He did offscreen
Dorry was the toughest giant we had for decades
*Broggy
Loki or Hajrudin might take his leg sadly
i was thinking someone else
toughest giant was mr 3 level
oh buggy
I mean, mr 3 can no diff seastone handcuffs. I'd like to see Luffy do that
It looks like Franky when he got his face blown off
i feel bad for the photographer of this
they for sure died shortly after taking the photo
Oh yeah lol
oh yeah we still don’t know it
Maybe his bounty has a meaninh
Oda sometimes really just hates and despises us
Some number pun thing
Nah it might be a bit more serious
He can't powerscale xebec too early
Sengoku didn't show rocks's bounty either to the marines when he showed rogers and whitebeards
him too
It's a bit suspicioous
"You DONT get his bounty because FUCK you"
Well he can always just pull the bounty inflation excuse
i don’t think he had it on hand lol
xebec kinda got erased from history
I mean I guess
But for such a major figure I'm sure the former fleet admiral could scrape through some data
Could you imagine if adjusted for inflation Xebec's bounty is like just 3 billion
Yes
inflation scaling 🥀
Yeah oda can't win either way
if he makes it ultra low ppl wouldn't understand and might think hes a fraud or something but if he makes it too high, the inflation would make it higher than rogers
Buggy lookin' more like nika than rocks tho
After this flashback i doubt buggy is rocks's secret son
oda desperate to show off his cool dance every dozen chapters
Rocks doesn't seem the type to abandon his kid no matter what
Buggy is Joyboys descendant now
Find out that literally every single Rocks pirate that did not die like a decade after GV surpassed him
Even Wang Zhi
wang zhi w
Streusen became stronger than Rocks
i bet rocks couldnt make a cake like him
if he ever challenged streussen to a davy back fight and it had a bake off hes done for
Okay maybe we can make an exception for Streusen
Stussy > Rocks
Gloriosa > Rocks
Okay maybe I didnt think this through
Its too late
If rocks's bounty comes out it should be around whitebeards imo
around 5b, maybe with a classic oda number pun
he definitely did enough to warrant it
69
It’s probably wiped off
Rokku means 69
😭
Rocks no longer exists in record so his bounty doesn’t either
True, but I'm sure higher ups have access to rocks's info
by higher ups I mean top ppl in the navy or wg
Like if akainu wanted rocks's bounty value I don't see why they would deny him

so where do you guys think this place is
probably a deeper part of mariejois
any shanks haters in chat
Somewhere on the red line but probably a fair distance away from Pangea Castle
funny to think even mariejois probably has its own class system too
😭
thats what i think its somewhere else in the redline
Do we know how big Mariejois as a whole is
Yeah garling seems to be higher than the avg celestial dragon
not really we dont really get a proper shot of marygeoise
Even before his gorosei status
the knights in general seem better educated and trained
It seems collosal either way, like maybe one of the biggest countries on the planet
In the future when the straw hats fight there or whatever we'd prolly get one of those situation maps
Maybe THE biggest
i think even during revos attack we barely saw the place
Yeah we kinda just saw a generic neighborhood being destroyed
Harald such a fraud
i hope we get to see more of mariejois when its not being attacked later
CD culture seems interesting
"I want slaves wah wah wah"
I don't think they rly have a culture
Is what it is mostly
I mean he probably is treated as lesser than the others tbh, since he's not only not a celestial dragon by blood but also is a giant
cd culture is just hedonism
yeah but we've already seen some interesting quirks like them treating the Ds as horror stories to scare kids
im curious how they get raised or the education they get
Like despite Harald being of the god's steel rank I could still see even a regular celestial dragon be treated better by the knights or gorosei, just cause he's not of their blood
Unfortunately I doubt this happens cuz its not relevant to main plot like will of D was
harald seems to be treated decently well here
Harald strengthwise is way beyond his actual rank, they just wanted to appease him imo
Only cuz he's the king of elbaf and immensely strong on his own
We literally catch the average person saying they want him as a slave
well
their education is mostly propaganda to keep them brainwashed
The knights are just being cordial and paying lip service
He already bent the knee
For years
Even Sommers is baffled
Nah but knights dont usually pay lip service, he's def being treated better than what others might expect
I mean he's not treated badly per say, but I feel he probably is being looked down upon behind closed doors and he's clearly falling for the world's most obvious ruse
"You'll listen to us even if you're king of elbaf"
the holy knights are picked from the buffoons based on their aptitudes
You can tell he's just confused
yeah after a reread its kinda obvious
A slave is a slave
Yes but celestial dragons treat their slaves horrifically usually, and harald isn't exactly a slave
One of the celestial dragons said they want harald as a slave, implying he isn't currently a slave
Slave to the world government
Yeah true
And the will of the gorosei
I didn’t even peep Gaven
But a slave regardless
I wonder if oda is making harald look bad on purpose to make his death a bit sympathetic
Like the knights consistently question why it's even happening. Garling asks himself what Imu is planning with it, and Sommers is even a little confused by his obedience. They're just going along with the plan so he doesnt crash out and leave
I expected harald to be headstrong against wg and assasinated via domi reversi cuz of that
its meant to be a bit tragic for harald
I have zero sympathy for harald
He a grown ass man
He knew what he was getting into
he had good intentions but he was too desperate to get it all done
a bit too good for this world and the people hes dealing with
He's a naive fool that got himself killed and almost destroyed the culture of his country.
I thought last chapter he was pretty pathetic but this is definitely an even lower low for Harald
i wish we got some more introspection from harald
it feels kind of weird hes just ignoring anything bad the WG might do
If it wasn't for loki existing harald would have wiped out elbaf and they'd all be slaves to the celestials
the smartest and most loyal cd are the ones who climb the ranks
all this flashback and herald still haven't mentioned the DF
like surely hes seen slaves here
Absolutely zero sympathy
Everyone forgets if loki isnt there the domi reversi sticks and all of elbaf is conquered
most cds are inbred dumbasses so it's quite easy to stand out
Harald is so frustrating to watch cuz he prolly thinks he's doing the right thing too
Possibly Harald wanted a doctor for ida
He's on the celestial dragon kool aid himself despite rocks warning him
Rocks told his ass and harald has seen how evil they are
harald doesnt know shes sick
Rocks would literally be sick to his stomach seeing what Harald is doing now
gonna be in for an unfortunate return
But it seems he wants to get fucked over himself before he realizes
harald is a fraud
Yeah they're the few competent celestial dragons
Harald is just naive to a fault and way way way too trusting
Of people thinking him being genuine means anything to celestials
Or the government
Harald should know how bad these guys are is the thing
ida will die while harald is busy doing tge wg dirty work
To them he's a fool and a good slave to sick on pirates
Like does he not see them dragging slaves around?
i think ida's death will be the tipping point for harald to realize he's sacrificed too much
and then that leads into the castle incident
nah i bet he'll continue after she dies too
"That won't happen to my country once my work is done. We will be free to live and not become slaves"
his naivete is weird because he instantly noticed something was weird with shanks
He thinks they wont fuck him over
loki gotta put this guy down asap
"Bro we elbaf the world government won't possibly hurt us" terrible mistake
we could really use a few panels of introspection from harald
i think thats bc he has seen shanks before
like its absurd he isnt aware of his situation at this point
"The leopards wont eat my face but they'll do it to everyone else"
THIS
oda will not skip roger in elbaf
so he was confused when he met shamrock tgere and then shanks aswell
new flashback soon
Dw it's all an act, that's why he can see through Shanks' act
wdym?
If it's an act it's a pretty good one
because it's fooling even us the readers
At least it fools me
"It's an act" and he's breaking ppl's ships on panel
i doubt its an act
The event of 14 years ago sadly happens because they finally saw through harald's act 
an act so good hes even fooled himself
Harald is killing people and doing things
we see hom act like this outside interacting with tge wg
shanks is HIM
How long will be king harald backstory , it's been 15 chapters now
He's not faking shit
we've got at least 2 more chapters
16 more
its not harald's fault rocks hijacked it for half of those
Minimum 5 more chaps of this
Sometimes double agents have to do bad things to keep up the act
Keep up the act lmao
It's prolly gonna stretch to 3 more chapters
(Unfortunately I am joking and dont believe the past few comments ive typed)
He's doing bad things only to get no promotions
not wrong
Smart man
yeah 2 at least and if oda gets into what loki was up to after his death it could be 3/4
herald might just die next chapter
idk about that
what else is missing
I think two chapters from now the incident begins
wasn't the flashback supposed to say how loki killed harald🫠🫠
we skipped to one year before his death
rip bozo
harald should take a few chapters to die, we need to see aftermath of village, harald returning, and then who kills harald and why
well herald will come back and see 2nd wife dead
If we see Shanks 1 shot Loki on screen, i'll be so conflicted. Good because Socrates will be in shambles but bad because it means shanks is getting more hype
the incident = eggheads well lets just say.... basically.... well........ decmber basically end so yeah
I just realized he really did never go up in rank over 9 years
I wouldn't be suprised if next chapter opens up with the castle incident
shanks has proved himself finally interesting so i wont mind him getting a bit more hype
hardstuck bronze 💀
im still waiting on heralds prophesy of his son killing him
did he got that from fish man island?
shanks is HIM

this reminds me of a tyler one clip
I dont get the reference sorry
That's a thing..?
vaguely
rank like in video game
Oh yeah
yeah the people said it was prophesized that his son will kill him
estrid was the one saying that...
It's almost 3
3am gang
This could be it
I remember people saying that was just a coincidence 🙄 people hate to see Loki win
it was
Ughhh maybe I should I'm starting to really feel it
I'm ngl its feeling like a domi reversi murder
estrid can not in fact see the future
Harald prolly switched up and got slimed out
Estrid isn't confirmed to have made that prophecy
well there is a giant circle in the throne room so sure
but she fully believed in it, thats enough for me
Ugfhhhh he's so shit
estrid just made rhis shit up the plot is why it happens anyway
That doesn't mean Estrid can see the future
Umm...I just wanna see sanji get some kinda buff atp
She just believed in someone that can see the future
Dw, im sure there are some readers that think toki saw the future with her prophecy
but she was in fact not having a prophecy when she shouted that nonsense
Why would Estrid say "there was a prophecy" if it's her prophecy
maybe herald and estrid went to FMI one time
Sure she said it while shouting nonsense but the prophecy itself came true
I'm clowning on harald but the chapter was great tbh @sage temple
Harald deserved to die
i like to imagine they pulled a "dont worry harald just one more pirate and we'll up your rank" for 15 years in a row
Seems this mf oda got some sleep finally
There's no break next week
herald def one of the greatest blunder in OP history
next to ace and oden
I meant sleep as in he's writing better again
Oh
Just reread it and funnily enough they never even offer to actually induct him and raise his level, they hard capped him at 'right hand of the god's knights'
Yeah I fw how he's been doing the silhouettes this flashback
shiki will be in it
ofc
im almost numb to all the depression oda keeps throwing at me
kuma flashback moment
Well, Ida should die and we'll probably start the Harald throne room part
i cant wait to not learn about the legendary fruit
Brother knows how to dance
loki lost his idol
lost his mom
lost his dog
give the man a break oda
Hannyabal had the saddest backstory
he got played by that lady prisoner
woah its wide 
Bro lost his hammer too
well he got a better one
Oda had loki chained up for years and cooked by shanks too lmao
It’s filler but it’s PEAK
oh right got denied by lola also
Sounds like a skill issue
He still gotta hit a couple more sad beats if he wants to attempt to be a top 5 flashback
Next chapter predictions:
Harald comes back to save Ida
Loki reaction to Ida's health getting worse and eventually dying
At the end we get more context on Harald and the WG as the castle incident is about to start
i swear we better see that lola interaction this flashback
Just realized the celestial dragons might not know shanks was on roger's crew at flashback point
thats the only way oda can make a flashback "good"
make it depressing
Oh yeah I think we’ll see Harald’s “mistake” next chapter
Can't even refute this lowk
Dolfius my hope for more extended Loki stuff post Castle incident keeps going down with each chapter
My hope is almost gone
Who had a happy flashback where nothing bad happened 
I CANT FIND IT 
Lost his Idol
Lost his mom
Was forced to kill his own father
100+ giants died around him at 16
Lost almost all his pets
Lost Lola
Now Mosa is at risk of being lost
wow
its a clip where he's playing overwatch and some guy says "well i think i'm a lot better at video games than i am at life" and tyler ONE says "well that sucks cause you're silver"
Is it the one where he’s like “I’m addicted and I can’t quit”
oda literally a 1 trick writer
smh
closest is prolly katakuri lmao at least compared to others
Not really
its so fucking funny someone in silver said that 😭
I mean he got bullied and his sister got beat up too
Tradgedy = better flashback is the dumbest rule the Op community has made up
what does he even do now i havent heard from him in years
Yeah thats why i said better than others
i don't know. i don't watch him i just like that one clip..
The flashbacks all ending tragicly makes sense if you consider that they are usually tied to a situation where things are pretty bad in the current day
Maybe Don Krieg had a happy and normal childhood
but its gone and so is joy in the world
oden started out as feel good
then went depreso mode
Yeah oda uses flashbacks exclusively to inspire luffy to act in a certain way
why not reverse that oda u bum
Oh…
Wow it’s almost like they’re a narrative device that serves a purpose
i... didn't... mean ... to ellipses.... i just... accidently... clicked.......... the period tice...
Also Happy flashbacks arent really important
its basically background lore. Luffy ends up in a situation where the entire country is getting cooked and oda goes "let's turn back time to see how it got cooked"
As they dont really do much for the conflict of the arc
she device on my narrative till i serve a purpose
Yeah writing 101 is that conflict is the center of any story
okay please pin this 🥹
I cant tell if this is sarcasm or not

wdym
Sounds pretty standard to me
theres no one to bm with sarcasm there
no big moming
Love the lore though
One piece has mid lore
its too late now to make a happy flashback
the readers are already addicted to being sad
wtf oda i wanted to feel bad reading this
I mean backstories provide conflict
what purpose would a happy flashback serve?
we need to up the tragedy stakes with each successive flashback
Skill issue on your part
And character motivation
elaborate
I dont think i will
No yall just think like cavemen bro
How would a happy flashback enrich the current story?
Ooo his family died good good
i just want to see if oda can make a good flashback thats happy
My steaks.... they've returned
Ooo wow was he slave? supa nice amazing #1 flashback ever
I'm sure he could but like whats the purpose?
for my own satisfaction
gill bastar had a bounty of 87 billion
yeah
when caveman complains about caveman
Pot meet kettle?
the pot calls the kettle to have a nice chat about the pot's day
Who suffered the most in their flashback
usopp
Mailbox SPITTING
on my tuah shit ig
luffys flashback was so close being happy
then sabo "died"
usopp is like the kuma of zoro-likes
Kuma probably had the most painful flashback
im sorry i said that i think
Sabo isn't real
Unpopular opinion but kyros is up there, if it wasn't constantly spammed in the anime
no one ccalled him a liar though
Kyros is underrated too
sabo is imus demon sleeper agent
this is real
Thats Oda's OC and he made him for his Post TS fanfic, one where luffy didn't die at msrineford
the bad ending
based off brookes life and his unexplored past and trauma, probably him sitting on that boat for all those years thinking of nothing but that, only having music to occupy him
This reminds me of the meme from back in the day where it’s like
Therapist : “___ isn’t real, it can’t hurt you”
___ exists
Ok wtf
You and Meeks are competing for the most profound messages of the server
mailbox clears meek
Truee
Idk Meeks been on some socratic shi lately

In the bad way?
I’m too lazy on mobile but just find fatsumo’s challenge account by searching “tournament” in events and then clicking his username on that site and searching by tournament. You can see what the server voted as best flashback
There is no bad way
Wait do you mean meek or meeks
Meeks plural
Funny thing is that I saw that the Law making up his flashback meme is mainstream
I saw it on a fallout shitpost today
fake law flashback was pretty funny tho
the eekoids
I remember when I had a following
all the lore happens in the middle
Which HK are yall excited to see in the modern era

lance lady
Wdym modern era
Like now
lancy lady looks like _
38 years later post God valley
Only skull guy, everyone else is irrelevant
My favorite holy knight is killingham so him
I wanna see the Yeti
killingham the goat
Purple haired twink must be fucking ugly in the present
past too
Im ready to see Maffey
Its weird af that gunko seems to not have aged
She's a bit special
Neither has Saturn
maybe she's old as hell under that mask i guess
her being a brook fan already made her the goat
That’s not the pope silly that’s Bilbo Baggins
He's a gorosei
Crazy we got a pipe from Chicago
Lol we gonna see more of her
Could be that she has a deep deep sea contract like the elders probably do
Go bears amirite 🙏
yeah but gunko likely doesn't have the deep deep contract. It seems like she just has the same kind shanks and harold have because they're all called god's steel or wtv
He gives middle aged hippie
What if Gunko has a secret deep deep sea contract
power of brook music and nika drums
gunko snaps out of it
imu removes the buff
she slowly dies in brooks arm
turns into bone then ash
blown away by the wind

Woah butter cooked
Sommers is my fav HK so far
Exquisite humor scenes
evil shanks was cool
She’d be young enough to actually be alive assuming she just reverts to normal age
oh no i mean imu just straight up kills her
If Twitter theorist are to be believed thats nami's relative
Also I can't wait to see more from shanks omggg it's finally happening after so many years 
something something imu contract
Don’t worry, Brook will cut the bond 
Twitter anything’s are never to be believed
Another mighty arm gone
Nami's dad
Trust
Lilith has orange hair
Is she the father?
Too late
he seems upset here
We dunno how deep gunko's bond is
foreshadowing
i just realized the stupid coat makes him look like kaido 🤮
Goda…
mf did it again i cant believe it
chills
The soul king will free her soul

😂
How do u feel Socrates we finally going to see more about loki 
Is ragnir more square
Yes
Yeah
Like in the current timeline it was
Also it has gold enhancements
Loki gets two chapters then we cut to teach as a child
Amazing
So one more loki chapter
I predicted this since it's Loki's flashback after all
Theres still time for teach
Bro predicted it
Where is this stated
hajrudin will arrive with the best doctor
If you dont mind informing me
I thought you were talking about Loki from 14-15 years ago
Loki is pretty good but I kinda wanted the shilouette more than a hypelord
Ida is cooked 💀
Realistically
This is very obviously gold
true oda just cant help himself killing moms
I thought he was gonna be kinda fat
looks more silver to me.
You're performative asf ngl
It's true I love designs like vp
My crackpot theory is that he’s gonna meet Lola after letting himself go and becoming fat 😭
Wanna bet
I like character designs that are unique and weird
Yeah I don't like that you like that
What is this beef
Change what you like for me twin
Most pointless argument
Haha I'm sorry you feel that way?
Hating to hate
Kaku is another high tier design
Once the fb ends I'll reread all of elbaf
Elbaph before the flashback was mid imo
FALSE
The early Rodo chapters were genuinely hard to get through
It has good moments (Elbaph double spread, Robin & Saul, Shamrock arrival) but nothing crazy
Sorry but I do not care for Gaban
Loki really carried pre-flashback
Primarily Haki users are boring hot take
I liked it. Being in a weird Legoland is exactly the kinda stuff I like
good for you lgreat
Thanks harsh
😭
who's hating to hate here
I digress
The rodo chapters were literally just 4 chapters
for about a week i got to believe that a large part of elbaf will be made of lego and i was rly excited
Too long (also I’m an Usopp fan and he got no diffed by a cat and that pissed me off)
I like the feeling of not knowing what's going on with the setting that Lego land had
Running from 1127-1129 actually so it was like 3 chapters
Skypeia has it too, long ring long land
I'm thinking about the Loki and Luffy bull parallel
Then we are put of the castle and in the main elbaf land
i was so hype we had usopp and we had lego what more can u ask for
Maybe a medium sized cat that no diffs Ussop
peak
Yeah I got reminded when you mentioned usopp
Lmfao
Where is that Observation Haki
It's hard to imagine what kind of focus usopp could get when loki and gods knights have so much gravity demand so much focus. Usopp just seems kinda outclassed and unrelated to the current problems

Lifting Loki’s hammer
Yepppp
This is simply just not his arc
usopp had aura for 1 panel
yep.
thats why hes the GOAT
If he lifts the hammer, Loki lifts the sword
Equivalent exchange
I keep forgetting how good volume scans are, I went back to scroll through some of the last egghead chapters now that we have the English volumes for them and the chapters look better than I remember
what program do u make these in
Gatekeep
Thats all he gets for the arc
He uses Google slides with custom fonts
Yeah right
socrates are you not afraid of oda glazing shanks at this exact moment
the timing
it's close
Oda glazing Shanks would just go to Loki
Since Loki vs Shanks is an extreme diff match



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