also-manga

[trim lily]

i wouldnt doubt it at this point

"huh, shanks looks just like the mythological being in our mythos..."

[brittle basin]

Yeah, Shanks clearly wants to get info on Marijoa he can make use of later.

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-funny-ishowspeed-stream-laugh-gif-1421963245027035132

[muted hedge]

Shanks and Shamrocks mother being a descendant of Joyboy and Lily

[prisma idol]

Its why he is called the child of fate

[formal wagon]

i'm lowkey warming up to shanks

[trim lily]

yes...

join the shanks fanclub

oda finally made him interesting

[steel stirrup]

Give bro an Oscar

Two Oscars

[muted hedge]

i'm very interested in all of the Figarland stuff, but mostly what Oda has planned for Shamrock

[blazing depot]

Fake racist, he’s doing it for the fashion

[iron oriole]

His acting is so bad, bro is only fooling them because they're arrogant idiots

[trim lily]

its funny that shamrock and shanks have basically swapped outfits now

[deep chasm]

youre warming up to shanks once he starts talking like a racist CD...interesting

[steel stirrup]

😭

[prisma idol]

Also where were the red hair pirates during the castle incident

[steel stirrup]

The drip is immaculate ngl

[prisma idol]

If Shanks had his crew by then

[tranquil blade]

I will forgive Shanks when Blackbeard takes his head

[steel stirrup]

Bro wearing tf out that blouse

[digital spear]

huge Shanks W

[trim lily]

the red hair pirates are a big mystery in all this

[iron oriole]

Presumably Ida's bar while he went & met with Gaban

[steel stirrup]

Just wait on it

[iron oriole]

If he does have the crew

[trim lily]

cause shanks shouldve started his crew already when he was in mariejois

[deep chasm]

woah thats a bit of a jump no?

[tranquil blade]

They probably just waited for him to come back

[graceful grove]

they are like heart pirates. no where to be seen while captain is doing big jobs

[deep chasm]

I mean maybe, but then shanks' crew is in an area where a devoted blade of god could find them and snitch, thats not very safe for his plan

[muted hedge]

like what's this about?

[trim lily]

bye guys im gonna become a celestial dragon for a few months

[prisma idol]

Saw the funniest thing saying the person believed in twin swap because shamrock is wearing something Hobo shanks would wear😭

With the open chest

[steel stirrup]

Tassels on the shoulder pads is wild

[deep chasm]

shanks inherited the will of joyboys dad, Im convinced

[steel stirrup]

And those GoGo dancer boots are OD

[brittle basin]

don't all the marine jackets have that? or at least for the admirals?

[tranquil blade]

Of his dad? Oh god

[steel stirrup]

I tink so

[muted hedge]

Shamrock and Shanks are both going to be children of destiny i assume

[prisma idol]

Who inherited Zunesha's will

[tranquil blade]

Chopper

[deep chasm]

his hand is drawn weirdly

[steel stirrup]

Chopper

[iron oriole]

I mean.. if he's willing to risk it by warning Harald in the first place... what risk is there for his crew to be at Ida's bar...

[trim lily]

funkfreed inherited zunesha's will

[prisma idol]

He has Yaoi sized hands

[deep chasm]

but he didnt risk it while they were at the holy land

[trim lily]

ok im glad its not just me

all shamrock is missing is a super sharp chin

[steel stirrup]

Was Funkfreed graded? I can't remember

[trim lily]

dont think so

[prisma idol]

Shamrock looks better with the braid than straight flat hair

[iron oriole]

Thats because they're surrounded by people Shanks doesn't want overhearing them

[trim lily]

yeah the braids do a lot to help

[thick mango]

Why was shanks accepted when doffy wasn't

[formal wagon]

good chapter

[iron oriole]

Figarland

[steel stirrup]

I wonder if Shamrocks sword is Supreme Grade

[muted hedge]

there's something special about their mother, for sure

[trim lily]

doffy's family willingly threw away their status

[deep chasm]

but thats what Im saying he didnt risk that. It'd be risky for you to have your crew back in Haralds base before you have made sure Harald wont snitch

[wet condor]

Pops

[trim lily]

shanks was an estranged son

[prisma idol]

Shanks never got a taste of CD so I assume they thought it would set him right.

Doffy did and his father abandoned it

[wet condor]

And yeah, Shanks didn't relinquish his birthright

[deep chasm]

I dont think hed have his crew living under haralds nose before hes confirmed harald wont snitch

[steel stirrup]

Homing left willingly

Shanks was separated as a baby, he gets more forgiveness

[trim lily]

garlic would kill him on sight now i assume

[muted hedge]

kind of a shame that we didn't see Shanks first interaction with Garling and Shamrock

[trim lily]

we'll see it later

[muted hedge]

the first time they reunited

[formal wagon]

Doffy's family gave up their status, shanks hasn't.

[thick mango]

Do you think doffy would hate shanks if he knew?

[wet condor]

lmao

[trim lily]

probably

[wet condor]

Idk

He'd be confused

[pine ridge]

100%

[tranquil blade]

Yeah probably

[trim lily]

shanks got the chance doffy never got and he still threw it away

[wet condor]

And think he's an idiot

[formal wagon]

isn't doffy old enough to have likely met shanks?

[trim lily]

yeah

[tranquil blade]

Not like he could do anything about it though

[iron oriole]

Not really, he feels comfortable to do it on Elbaf since Gaban is there etc & its not like Harald would see the crew & instantly know they're linked to Shanks if he's not around them... plus if things did go a bit south i feel he'd want his crew there just in case

[steel stirrup]

So did FT reopen the wound BB gave him

[prisma idol]

🧄 ☘️ 👨‍🦰
I couldn't think of anything to represent shanks with...

[formal wagon]

I hope we see holy knight homing soon

[steel stirrup]

🔴

[wet condor]

Something like that I guess

[trim lily]

theres a chance doflamingo couldve met shamrock as a kid

[blazing depot]

Homing got slimed by his son at this point 😭

[prisma idol]

How old is doffy again?

[trim lily]

41

[wet condor]

40

or 41

[formal wagon]

oh shit really? it was that long ago?

[steel stirrup]

Goddamn

[deep chasm]

but why are we assuming theyd be there in the first place. It could be a possibility but thats it

[prisma idol]

I guess there was a chance yeah

[steel stirrup]

Doffy was 40 years old fighting Luffy holy shit

[trim lily]

doflamingo left was he was like 10 i think

[iron oriole]

Where else would they be if he does have his crew at this point?

[deep chasm]

like anywhere in the world

[trim lily]

oh 8

[muted hedge]

are you all ready to hear about Shamrock scarring Whitebeard?

[steel stirrup]

All of Luffys enemies get taller and older as we go along

[prisma idol]

Then there was a 5 year window of doffy seeing baby shamrock

[formal wagon]

Doffy was 10 when he killed homing

[steel stirrup]

LMAOOOOO

[trim lily]

im more curious as to how they'd even meet

[thick mango]

With all the waters language do you think imu is some kind of incarnation of the sea?

[deep chasm]

I fear shamrock will be a fraudulent version of shanks

Katakuri victim

[steel stirrup]

Niggas still aint let that go

😭

[formal wagon]

it still could have been garling couldn't it?

[muted hedge]

who would it be if not Shamrock at this point?

[formal wagon]

or shanks himself actually

[trim lily]

after rereading some of elbaf i think imu made a contract with some kind of sea devil

[prisma idol]

WB saw Shamrock kidnapping Ginny and fought him because he looked like garling

[muted hedge]

i heavily doubt it, but that's just because of God Valley

[steel stirrup]

Roger probably

Or rookie Buggy

Only options I'll accept

[muted hedge]

why would he refer to him as him and Roger in the same conversation

[trim lily]

who knows

it being shamrock is just as weird

[rich hornet]

Imu will be the tallest and oldest?

[muted hedge]

is it?

[steel stirrup]

Did he "Roger" before or after he said "Him"

[trim lily]

yeah, how would they even meet/why would they fight

knights in general are still pretty averse to fighting yonko

[formal wagon]

wait, all this shanks stuff is happening after roger died right? how old was doffy when that happened? wasn't he there?

[trim lily]

he was

like 20 something

[muted hedge]

i don't remember, i'll have to look it up

[steel stirrup]

900 years old and on the mural they make Ancient Giant Loki looking like a pre teen child and Loki makes Giants look like toddlers.

So yes.

[formal wagon]

Oh okay so doffy was probably gone by the time shanks was there

[deep chasm]

roger

[formal wagon]

oh im silly i'd already establihsed doffy was alive during GV so theres no way they could've met

[steel stirrup]

Yea thats what im thinking because Shamrock is just... lmaoooo

[muted hedge]

i'm just thinking that Oda won't hold the breaks when it comes to Shamrock and Shanks, they're both the children of destiny of the two sides essentialy

[deep chasm]

shamrock is definitely not scarring WB lol

[upbeat yarrow]

occams razor, its most likely roger

[runic dock]

Garling is a fraud so no

[deep chasm]

at least say Garling scarred wb in a different battle

[runic dock]

He sucks

His son might not suck lol

[deep chasm]

Its just garling or roger

[trim lily]

it’s a bit weird he didn’t just have garlic scar wb in god valley

[formal wagon]

Its not roger

[iron oriole]

Surely its Garling

[steel stirrup]

Either Garling in a separate engagement or just Occams Razor Roger

[muted hedge]

i think that Oda is trying to make a clear cut line between Shanks and Shamrock compared to Garling

[runic dock]

Cause it ain’t him , garling is weak

[iron oriole]

"Him" doesn't make sense for Roger

[formal wagon]

it being roger would be too lame

[deep chasm]

I mean not everything happens in GV. Garling ro roger could have scarred him another day

[steel stirrup]

Why not?

[muted hedge]

Shanks and Shamrock have that special red hair which their mother had, while Garling doesn't have that defining trait

[iron oriole]

Its not like Roger is a secret at this point?

[trim lily]

i’m still trying to figure out what the knights even do

[runic dock]

His mother probably had all the power and CoC

[formal wagon]

garling could have gotten much stronger due to a bigger contract

[iron oriole]

Oda would just use his name

[trim lily]

like in what scenario would garlic and whitebeard meet again

[formal wagon]

or a better contract i mean

[runic dock]

Deep deep sea is gorosei he got that recently

[muted hedge]

i wouldn't be surprised if at this point the mother is a D member, yeah

[formal wagon]

really?

[steel stirrup]

I don't have a horse in this race but why could it only be Garling?

And if it was him, when? It didnt happen at GV.

[prisma idol]

Also was there a slight change to the fisher tiger thing, I swear he mentioned he was at mariejoa before returning back to fmi and saying he would return to free the slaves

[runic dock]

Most likely , 8 hk we have seen + 5 gorosei = 13

[deep chasm]

it can be any time. We dont necessarily have to know what date this is

[digital spear]

nah that was already after

[deep chasm]

regardless we dont know when WB was scarred

[trim lily]

oda screwed up the timeline with it

[steel stirrup]

Do you think we'll see that moment at all?

[trim lily]

we know fisher tiger climbed up the redline to save the slaves

[digital spear]

feel like the wb scar thing isnt that deep

[deep chasm]

even if it was roger we'd be asking when roger scarred wb, so we cant rlly base anything off timing

[prisma idol]

It may be unimportant but I wanna see more of this place

[iron oriole]

Obviously some other time but who else could it be? Shanks' face is literally just Garling's face so it makes the most sense & i cant see it being Shamrock so 1+1=2

[prisma idol]

Shangara

[runic dock]

It’s either that’s the first time or last time then

[deep chasm]

Probably not. If its roger definitely not. If it was garling maybe but probably not

[trim lily]

i hope viz translates it as shangri la (or closer to that)

[steel stirrup]

Oh nah Shamrock aint even an option lmaooo

[runic dock]

I hope so too

[trim lily]

meek insisted on connecting it to shandora

for whatever reason

[prisma idol]

Smh meek

[formal wagon]

I think it's likely the gorosei are another step above. Why would there be 8 more people that also get the immortality of that, and why wouldn't garling be a deep deep sea contract if he's the head of the god's knights?

[runic dock]

Meek insisted to feeso not to make it Shangri La

[dense rapids]

They’re spelled similarly

[muted hedge]

why would Whitebeard say it so ominously and vague if it was Roger?

[runic dock]

Can you believe that shit

[prisma idol]

Its a holy thing

[steel stirrup]

With Oda speedrunning I find it hard to believe we'll have time to get to see that moment

[muted hedge]

Whitebeard knows that Shanks had a good relation with Roger

[digital spear]

common meek W

[iron oriole]

This is what i'm saying

[deep chasm]

yea oda doesnt like to show much

[prisma idol]

THE HOLY KNIGHTS HAVE A HOLY THEME

[formal wagon]

good job meek

[woven talon]

going live to breakdown the chapter soon if anyone wants to hang out

[steel stirrup]

Is he saying HK are like Enels Priest or what?

[digital spear]

https://tenor.com/view/druski-rage-angry-annoyed-whatever-gif-5126333390325209476

[runic dock]

I don’t think so , it just makes sense the gorosei have the bigger contract , they said these 13 people are the ONLY PEOPLE in the world having access to god , aka that includes the gorosei

[trim lily]

i guess that means there’s only 8 knights

[steel stirrup]

At any time

[digital spear]

my contract > your contract

[steel stirrup]

Probably

[digital spear]

lawyer wars

[runic dock]

Holy knights seem to not even have contact with imu

Garling isn’t privy to imu plans

Gorosei have contactt with imu

[formal wagon]

But why wouldn't garling have that contract as the head of the knights?

[prisma idol]

It would fit so well with the holy knights

[muted hedge]

it's a completely different tone, when he discusses the two

[prisma idol]

Almost immortal

[steel stirrup]

Surface sea deals with the Gorosei and any deeper you have to meet God to survive i like it

[dense haven]

shanks is really a quadruple agent

[formal wagon]

I don't think the gorosei are privy to Imu's plans either

[dense haven]

ocelot got nothing on him

[steel stirrup]

I doubt they question shit they just do the shit

[formal wagon]

yeah

[runic dock]

He has the deep sea contract already , the holy knight contract , why would there be contract for just one person ? They said 13 people have these contracts split up , the gorosei have numbers on teleporters

They’re definitely deep deep sea

[runic dock]

They are , they’re allowed to talk directly to imu

[steel stirrup]

Well Gunko is a HK with a surface level contract as of GV but hasnt aged.

Imu clearly playing favorites

[runic dock]

That’s how they’ve stayed afloat for 900 years

[formal wagon]

But who would those 8 people be if not the head of the holy knights?

[steel stirrup]

Gave the blue hair girl immortality

Off rip

[muted hedge]

the 13 with the deep-deep sea contract are privy to know about Imu

[formal wagon]

is it 8 people ranking under garling who also have a better contract?

[runic dock]

Those 8 people are the entire holy knights

[iron oriole]

Same contract

[runic dock]

No more no less

The power allows 13 subscribers

Gorosei have numbers

It’s simple to me

[iron oriole]

HKs, Commander & Supreme Commander all Deep Sea

Gorosei Deep Deep Sea

[steel stirrup]

I think Surface is Harald

Deep Sea is HK

Deep Deep Sea is HK commander/Gorosei

[iron oriole]

Devoted Blades Surface Level

[steel stirrup]

Right

Same shit Unc said

[runic dock]

8 people includes the commander of the knights

[formal wagon]

okay i was confused i didn't realise it was deep and deep deep that counted the full 13, sorry you're right lol

[muted hedge]

i feel like the supreme commander could be deep deep sea as well

[fast pagoda]

Lowkey I wanna put my hands in Harald's horn sockets

[muted hedge]

purely from the distinction between supreme commander and commander

[fast pagoda]

I wonder how they feel

[runic dock]

Idk why they couldn’t name it something more creative than deep deep sea tbh lmao

Couldn’t just call it abyss?

Lmao

[steel stirrup]

Any HK in training gets Surface Level maybe?

[wet condor]

Reminds me of the white sea and the white white sea

[iron oriole]

None 0% but doubtful, would make sense that the Deep Deep is limited to those in the position of Gorosei as like the most "prestigious" position

[steel stirrup]

Same

[wet condor]

Then we saw the temple Shangara

[formal wagon]

i like it actually. theres the appeal of oda's siilly stupid names but "deep deep" also evokes a kind of fairy tale/ fable language

[muted hedge]

VIZ will probably name the layers something different

[wet condor]

Sounds like Shandora

[fast pagoda]

Do you think it would hurt him

[runic dock]

Oh yeah huh

[frigid gulch]

Abyssal Sea would’ve been good

[muted hedge]

yeah, true

[wet condor]

Don't know what the exact or if it's any real connection there but I thought of it

[steel stirrup]

Deep deep sea is the abyssal zone... Oda cooked there ngl

[runic dock]

True in a way , I see that , I just joked in my mind the next level must be “mega ultra deep”

[prisma idol]

Imu comes from the Mariana trench

[muted hedge]

probably yeah

[steel stirrup]

THE SEA DEVIL THEORY IS REAL

What a time to be alive

[formal wagon]

probably honestly

[runic dock]

There’s too many things now linking imu to the concept of the sea

Even Davy jones

[steel stirrup]

You hear me

[muted hedge]

it's so strange since Imu has so many contrasting themes

sea, nature, earth

[formal wagon]

that was one i really discounted but i'd be silly to deny the idea atp

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-its-all-coming-together-gif-15058130

[runic dock]

Davy jones locker is in the bottom of the sea

Could there be a connection

[sweet anvil]

Imu is the sea devil

Umibozu

[steel stirrup]

How could there not

[runic dock]

Wait

[steel stirrup]

This is a pirate manga

[runic dock]

WAIT

[fast pagoda]

Davy Jones was a nerd

[formal wagon]

what if instead of the sea devil imu was the freak devil and

[runic dock]

DAVY JONES WAS A HOLY KNIGHT

[steel stirrup]

👀

[fast pagoda]

Imu is a jock who shoved him in a locker

[steel stirrup]

LMAOOO

[runic dock]

He had a deep sea contract or deep deep sea contract

Davy jones locker ??

It has to be connected

[sweet anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/airball-nba-brick-gif-15266795546092124798

[runic dock]

Davy jones made a deal with the devil

[steel stirrup]

The way Imu hit their knees nah Joyboy and Imu were bullying Imu but Imu liked Lili

[runic dock]

That’s a myth fact

[muted hedge]

i think it's just a way to say that Davy Jones is dead

[runic dock]

Sure but now we’re getting all this deep sea stuff

[muted hedge]

yeah...

[runic dock]

If bb has someone inside of him it isn’t rocks

It’s Davy

[steel stirrup]

[sweet anvil]

Agreed

[muted hedge]

inside of him?

[steel stirrup]

Soul theory

[muted hedge]

you mean inherited will

[runic dock]

“Weird body”

[sweet anvil]

Bro

[runic dock]

Two fruits

[steel stirrup]

Nah his soul is actually inside of him brodie

[iron oriole]

BB multiple soul theory the OG theory

[sweet anvil]

Inherited will is pseudo reincarnation atp

[muted hedge]

oh

[runic dock]

Marco said he had a weird body and he can eat two fruits and he reacts strangely to pain and he doesn’t sleep

[latent hamlet]

Isnt the pain thing cuz of the dark fruit

[iron oriole]

Yeah its amplified

[runic dock]

Yeah , but even that could be connected to Davy

[steel stirrup]

The soul of Davy is somehow inside of BB. Idk if I buy that. I could belive maybe Eris' soul is inside BB but believing Rocks could be is dead now with him. But Davy thru some magical demonic shenanigans could be inside of BB also.

[muted hedge]

interesting

[runic dock]

So many connections …there for the taking….

Idk which way they’ll connect tho

[muted hedge]

i don't know if i am a fan of it or not, but it's certainly interesting

[fast pagoda]

I do think Davy Jones had some sort of abnormal trait called "Davy Jones' locker" that Blackbeard inherited

[iron oriole]

Oh Rich, you always disagree with me

Thoughts?

[formal wagon]

really baller chapter for finals week. I forgive oda for 1 of his wrongs.

[fast pagoda]

Also I really don't think Davy Jones was actually "king of the Ancient Kingdom" in the typical sense

[sweet anvil]

Imu took control of Gunko

[formal wagon]

he was king of the world

[muted hedge]

i want to see someone have a devil fruit weapon and a devil fruit themselves

[steel stirrup]

Marco confirmed that BBs body is weird.

And then you have Luffy and Zoro saying "Not him" its "them"

Its not a invalid theory at all

[fast pagoda]

Like I dont think the Ancient Kingdom was ruled by the "Davy dynasty" or whatever

[muted hedge]

i am confused as to why we haven't seen it yet.

[runic dock]

Ancient kingdom is one country but he was stated king of the world

Which part?

[formal wagon]

100 years of peak davy jones utlra romanticism world

[steel stirrup]

I agree

This seems solid

[iron oriole]

True but idk where to place Gunko tbh, she's in a weird spot

[fast pagoda]

Don't think he was king in the typical sense, like I dont think he was part of a dynasty

[muted hedge]

yeah, but i don't know if i am personally a fan of it
i'd prefer if it was just Blackbeard inheriting the will of Davy Jones and being a direct descendant

[rich hornet]

The Luffy Zoro thing never was about Blackbeard, but his crew

[fast pagoda]

I think Davy D Jones was the deckhand of JoyBoy's crew who left to pursue his own dream

[steel stirrup]

Two things can be true at once

[runic dock]

Gunko may have had special privileges since she should have aged more even by the time of god valley

[rich hornet]

Yes, but in this case only one thing

[runic dock]

Brook time is like 70+ years ago

[fast pagoda]

Originating the Davy Back fight

[bold sonnet]

That moment when you missed a shot on a theory because you didn't work on it 😭

[sweet anvil]

The way I see it he was a dictator and joyboy was a guy trying to dethrone him and become king for himself to free the people seeing as zunesha said “I failed to make you king”

[fast pagoda]

And he took over the Ancient Kingdom in time for the final battle against the 20 kingdoms

[iron oriole]

Yeah its weird, she's seemingly higher than a HK

[steel stirrup]

Well BB inheriting Davy's Will is already pretty much confirmed. Him being a direct descendant tho is still in question, but definitely possible.

[fast pagoda]

If the mf named "Davy Jones" wasn't a pirate I will hate Oda

[runic dock]

Maybe because she’s personal servant? But why the focus on her? Why is she special to imu

[sweet anvil]

Davy jones is claimed to be king at some point but joyboy was never king

From what we know

[fast pagoda]

She's her

[iron oriole]

I think its due to her being like a perfect host for Imu to take over

Thats my headcanon at least

Imuturn looked imperfect

[sweet anvil]

Tbh idk how imu ties into the Davy joyboy lore

[runic dock]

Could be , still mostly a mystery there with all the brook stuff

[sweet anvil]

Is it like a 3 way thing

[steel stirrup]

Even without that you still have Marco confirming his body is weird

The rumor that he doesn't sleep (which Oda's SBS drawing of BB may confirm)

And the fact that the nigga can use 2 devil fruits when its supposed to be an iron clad rule that you cannot do that shit.

[fast pagoda]

That is true

What do yall think Imu looks like

[rich hornet]

I agree, thsts the weird stuff we should focus on

[muted hedge]

i'm so confused as to why we haven't seen anyone with a weapon df and their own df yet

it should be an easy bypass to the iron clad rule

[fast pagoda]

I buy the theory he looks like the face on the Ark Maxim

[iron oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/thecupheadshow-cuphead-mugman-the-devil-hello-gif-25173703

[bold sonnet]

Their battle probably resulted the florian triangle

[deep chasm]

Davy came first then Imu beat him up then Joyboy tried to clap back, just the random guess

[runic dock]

It’s possible eating two fruits is a Davy trait, and rocks didn’t do it cause he was saving himself for two specific fruits?

[fast pagoda]

I also think Imu might be from the 3 eye or long neck tribe

[sweet anvil]

Imu can also take over Saturn in human form like Gunko

[deep chasm]

that is a good question, that could be a davy thing

[sweet anvil]

So i think it applies the same

[steel stirrup]

That being said, if he has an extra soul or something along those lines, I would buy that that soul is Eris before I would buy that it is Rocks or Davy himself

[sweet anvil]

He wanted harald to eat one of the fruits

[iron oriole]

You literally just told me what i said

[runic dock]

Oh yeah

[hot cairn]

he wanted Harald to eat the Elbaph fruit tho

[runic dock]

Hm then idk , something is off about his body still then

[sweet anvil]

Nvm I thought your point was that it was imperfect as opposed to Gunko imu

[deep chasm]

Random thought as well. maybe originally dfs were just a thing that existed, but then when Imu gained power he made a contract on them where you cant swim and thats where that comes from

[steel stirrup]

He wanted Harald to eat the other fruit.

But the Buccaneers have some special trait.

Who knows if the Davy Clan has special traits?

[runic dock]

I keep forgetting we were supposed to learn something big about the buccaneers through vegapunk

[sweet anvil]

Wait I don’t get what you’re trying to say how does imuturn look imperfect

[bold sonnet]

That bum!!!

[rich hornet]

Same. He just doesn’t act like Rocks. I think he’s more influenced by his mom

[bold sonnet]

We didn't learn shit

[iron oriole]

I was comparing it to Gunkmu yeah, Gunkmu seemed like a "perfect host" type of deal while Imuturn looked imperfect

[steel stirrup]

But then he got stabbed because we cant have anything nice

[sweet anvil]

I don’t get how one looks perfect and the other doesn’t though

[runic dock]

[iron oriole]

The form?

[steel stirrup]

No doubt about that in my mind.

Eris is the difference. The way she raised him made him into what he is.

[bold sonnet]

He looked normal when they were leaving

[fast pagoda]

What characters do yall think will have conquerors haki in the future

[sweet anvil]

Yeah imu is first in saturns spider form but also can use saturns human body

[runic dock]

Imu is shown to be able to fully fuse with Saturn the same way he did with gunko

Yes

[steel stirrup]

Sanji
BB reveal

[bold sonnet]

Imuturn still looks hella funny

[sweet anvil]

Saturns looked pretty normal

[muted hedge]

Shamrock, Akainu, Mihawk, Loki, Sabo, Koby, Sanji, Blackbeard, Buggy...

there's tons more to be honest

[steel stirrup]

It looked like that parasite that can infest bugs and control them

[bold sonnet]

Buggy

[runic dock]

When imu was leaving god valley with Saturn it was just the eyes yeah

That part of it

[sweet anvil]

Yeah I think imu fits Gunko more but idk about Gunko being the perfect vessel

[steel stirrup]

[deep chasm]

add garling and thats probaly about it

[iron oriole]

Gunkmu looks like they're "one" with eachother

Imuturn looks "parasitic" Imu is coming out of Saturn

[bright torrent]

sanji wont

sanji doesnt need conq

[muted hedge]

oh yeah Garling too

[bold sonnet]

It looked like one of the robot thingy from botw

[steel stirrup]

Oh.

Oh...

Oh no...

[runic dock]

Go back to the page that shows everyone splitting off from god valley , Saturn was shown to be similar to gunko there

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/the-punisher-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-wait-wait-wait-wait-wait-wait-wait-wait-wait-noooooo-dream-sequence-gif-3498303690144489723

[ornate tartan]

ngas better get use to ts🤣

[sweet anvil]

Imu can also take over in a normal way though

[ornate tartan]

we HERE @steel stirrup

[runic dock]

Yeah this one

[steel stirrup]

For now

ZEHAHAHAHA

[sweet anvil]

so what’s the point about imuturn being imperfect compared to gunkmu

The more I think about it though

I kind of see it

[bold sonnet]

Damn I was slow. I had the scuffed one ready.

[runic dock]

Idk , it could be something in her blood or maybe she can maintain the form longer , I won’t rule it out completely

[dense haven]

I haven't enjoyed a chapter like this since imu pulled out a gun

[iron oriole]

We can agree to disagree ig, they don't look or feel "the same" to me

[sweet anvil]

Imu makes more sense in gunkos body now that I think

[hot cairn]

I’m with this idea more than the Rocks one

[sweet anvil]

Idk why

It just does though

[hot cairn]

this chapter was so freaking good

[dense haven]

dog valley really overstayed

[hot cairn]

finger licking good

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-eternal-doomguy-doom-slayer-doom-guy-shotgun-gif-27413588

[sweet anvil]

When did imu get out a gun again 😭

[steel stirrup]

Pretty clear atp the ting that made Blackbeard Blackbeard was Eris

[bold sonnet]

Shotgun

[iron oriole]

1051

[runic dock]

Imu with the shotty was devious

[sweet anvil]

Oh

That was so long ago

[iron oriole]

1151 sorry

[steel stirrup]

Pulled out the sawed off like Elmer Fudd

[frozen aspen]

that was a wild chapter

[bold sonnet]

Imu is a proud murican

Be fr

[frozen aspen]

I remember thinking the spoilers were fake

[iron oriole]

No 1150, fuck me i was just on the chapter

[steel stirrup]

She probably got a switch on that bitch too

[hot cairn]

I have a lowkey outfetched theory she went crazy and tried to instill Rocks’ will on BB

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/6ZIV.gif

[iron oriole]

Baddie with the shotty

[sweet anvil]

Let me cook

[hot cairn]

magic book that brings out a pump shotgun lmaoo what

[fast pagoda]

Top 1 scenes in Elbaf

[dense haven]

imu is already perfect for the fortnie colab

[iron oriole]

Is this

[fast pagoda]

Imu is a celestial dragon so his first instinct when seeing a giant is to shoot

[steel stirrup]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/164971940648321024/1369338462406180944/image0.gif

[runic dock]

Demons are the only proper form for life to take is a wild sentence

[frozen aspen]

"Imu pulls out a gun and magic book and shoots the giants hand off and then they all start turning into a evil devils who work for imu to kill jarul" like what

[pine scaffold]

this is the goofiest shit ever

[fast pagoda]

Actually yeah thats 1 Imu beating the shit outta the giants is 2

[steel stirrup]

Ain't no way shawty got the haki coated Shotty

[pine scaffold]

HOW IS HE INSIDE THAT ROOM?

[tranquil blade]

He crawled in

[fast pagoda]

Pangea Castle is really big

[sweet anvil]

Wait did rocks inherit davys will

[iron oriole]

Blackened Shotty

[runic dock]

Open window duh

[pine scaffold]

dawg why is pangea so big, there's no need

[runic dock]

[steel stirrup]

It would appear so

[iron oriole]

Mihawk wishes he was on Gunkmu's level

[rich hornet]

Why is there a room that big

[fast pagoda]

I want to put my hand in Harald's head scars

[runic dock]

They need to fit their demon selves in there

[bold sonnet]

To casually aura farm

[fast pagoda]

I wonder what it feels like

[ornate tartan]

what if them ngas transform into demons u want them to destroy the castle😭😭😭😭

[sweet anvil]

I feel like some of the stuff he says pushes the idea they had the same dream but he didn’t inherit the same will idk if it makes sense

[formal wagon]

demon demon

deep deep

[cunning jacinth]

so did Harald get a mansion in Mariejois when he became a god's blade or

[formal wagon]

goda goda

[pine scaffold]

theres no way he fit through the door

[formal wagon]

pin th

[sweet anvil]

The same way Roger didn’t inherit joyboys will

[dense haven]

first thing that came to mind once I read the chapter

[sweet anvil]

Rocks didn’t inherit davys will

[formal wagon]

shrink ray

[hot cairn]

LOL

[runic dock]

Due to perspective , that door must be a football field away

[iron oriole]

Gun always wins

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-eye-roll-annoyed-awkward-awkward-silence-gif-8519527199733944803

[formal wagon]

magic gun btw

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/bLWNW.gif

[sweet anvil]

Wait am I the only one that thinks Roger didn’t inherit joyboys will 😭

[tranquil blade]

Nah hold on if he like turned sideways he might have it

That's a pretty huge door

[runic dock]

16 holy bullets

[sweet anvil]

I lowkey feel like the only one who inherited joyboys will is Luffy

[steel stirrup]

Ask the chat

[hot cairn]

that room looks HUGE

[dense haven]

imu is a happy chaos main

[runic dock]

Crazy theory be careful

[steel stirrup]

Who did he get the SH from

[runic dock]

That’s controversial

[sweet anvil]

Shanks

[steel stirrup]

Follow me now

And who did Shanks get it from

[sweet anvil]

Roger

[formal wagon]

the onewho inherited joyboys will is harold

[hot cairn]

[ornate tartan]

Roger didn’t inherit joyboy will

I did

[tranquil blade]

Did the guy who Roger got the hat from have Joyboy's will as well Rich

[iron oriole]

The one who inherited Joyboy's will is Tama the GOAT

[dense haven]

roger is a fraud

[sweet anvil]

Exactly

[iron oriole]

[steel stirrup]

And there is also a SH in Mariejois rightM

[sweet anvil]

Yes

[formal wagon]

yes the true first mate

uffy

[steel stirrup]

Im not disagreeing with you im explaining why most would disagree with you

Okay

[formal wagon]

luffy's secret twin who he erased from his own memory

[steel stirrup]

So mix all that together

And mfs think this is all Joyboys will

[formal wagon]

by hitting himself on th ehead like sabo

[frozen aspen]

@imu this guy right here

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/bAl3Z.gif

[frozen aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/zeng-this-guy-right-here-this-right-here-point-out-point-gif-23913867

[bold sonnet]

American Imuko vs British Imuko

[formal wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/binturongs-post-these-28th-28-gif-3053393536529622503

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-1984-gif-8433559455380317911

[dense haven]

any shanks haters in chat?

[runic dock]

Yes

[frozen aspen]

yes

[steel stirrup]

This chat is definitely better give that theory but in #manga they would immediately try to refute you so call this sparring

[runic dock]

[formal wagon]

mods mods mods mods mods this mods this mods this mods

[sweet anvil]

So shanks has joyboys will

[runic dock]

Oh wait

No

[sweet anvil]

Let me land

[steel stirrup]

They would argue "Not anymore he passed it to Luffy"

[hot cairn]

Shanks haters in almost 2026

[steel stirrup]

Bob and weave ts

We sparring Suspect

[sweet anvil]

The Nika fruit is finds itself a compatible user right

[steel stirrup]

Good point!!

[formal wagon]

This chat was like that for years and manga would just ignore you and shitpost like a good channel

[remote maple]

I would assume so, he did steal the nika fruit and help free those slaves

[sweet anvil]

Roger never had it because he wasn’t compatible

[steel stirrup]

And here's the counter to that Suspect

[sick dust]

You mean fisher tiger freed the slaves?

[steel stirrup]

So how do we combat this

[sweet anvil]

Because the person compatible must have the will of joyboy

[remote maple]

he indirectly helped free them

[sweet anvil]

We all know shanks didn’t inherit joyboys will

No need to argue this

Mr fake demon himself

[steel stirrup]

"Maybe Shanks was going to eat it himself"

Keep your hands up

[dense haven]

fisher tiger would be been dead without shanks

shanks is HIM

[steel stirrup]

Then you say

"Why didnt he"

[remote maple]

I doubt he would have

[sweet anvil]

He never ended up eating it because the fruit had a will of its own and chose someone compatible

[sweet anvil]

Being Luffy

[steel stirrup]

Niceee

You good

Go forth

And theorize

[dense haven]

shanks orchestrated the entire escape

[sweet anvil]

The way I see it

[dense haven]

he's a genius

[ornate tartan]

spice he’s HIM

[brittle basin]

What are you hiding, Franky? What. Are. You. HIDING?!

[steel stirrup]

My honest opinion is Roger and Shanks was just like "holding onto it" for Luffy

[unreal furnace]

yall seen saint shanks fancy ass fit 😭😭

[steel stirrup]

Until he came along

[sweet anvil]

Agreed

Had Roger and shanks truly inherited the will of joyboy they would’ve been the ones to change the world imo

On a greater scale af least

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/b0Esh.gif

[unreal furnace]

saw somewhere that inherited will could be passed thru devil fruits themselves

[brittle basin]

Rocks, I already miss you.

[dense haven]

rest in piss rocks

[brittle basin]

MODS

[sweet anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-mod-moderator-discord-moderator-delete-moderator-snitch-gif-27063075

[hot cairn]

it’s been one chapter

[brittle basin]

One chapter too many.

[dense haven]

we had enough rocks wank for a lifetime

[brittle basin]

Rocks statue when?

[dense haven]

it's shanks szn now

[brittle basin]

Buggy as Rocks' child reveal when?

Imu vs Luffy when also?

[hot cairn]

it’s funny how heartbroken Sb is about Rocks’ death

[hot cairn]

SOON

in the present

[hot cairn]

many more to go

[brittle basin]

Was he also heartbroken over Saturn's demise? @pine scaffold answer plz

[pine scaffold]

No bruh

Saturn was evil

[brittle basin]

I feel like i'm being gaslit

[bold sonnet]

Bro put all of his stock on an already confirmed dead man

[brittle basin]

If Rocks' spirit lives on, I might cry and sue Oda.

[grand flower]

They had his will, just not the opportunity

[pine scaffold]

We need Rocks to come back tbh

[grand flower]

Timing is a crucial factor

[brittle basin]

Ida, my beloved, plz no dying.

[pine scaffold]

Don't act like this aint hype asf

[azure spindle]

Nooooo

[pine scaffold]

The return of Xebec

[azure spindle]

I mean it's hype but

I'm tired of Oda bsing deaths

Rocks living would make even less sense than Pell

[sweet anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/akkubaba007-jerry-laugh-akku-fav-gif-gif-16150872697915744919

[tranquil blade]

https://tenor.com/view/let-it-go-brother-let-it-go-spn-supernatural-move-on-gif-3563305

[hot cairn]

first pages of next chapter it’s her death

I call it

[sweet anvil]

Idk

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/no-lalala-i-cant-hear-you-gif-8013705

[sweet anvil]

Tbh this is just a feeling

[azure spindle]

Shanks story is so interesting

[sweet anvil]

Whenever I read I just had the gut feeling that Roger never actually inherited his will

[brittle basin]

So both BM and Loki have burned down villages in Elbaf?

[trim lily]

yep

well bm only burnt one

[iron oriole]

Loki has destroyed multiple

[brittle basin]

OK so let's scale child BM=Loki

[formal wagon]

i had this gut feeling that luffy sucks and blackbeard is the true protagonist

[trim lily]

baby loki clears unfortunately

[bold sonnet]

Lets keep it that way

https://tenor.com/view/please7tv-please-beg-pray-hope-gif-3860103425950934673

[trim lily]

baby loki > child big mom > big mom > loki

[iron oriole]

30 second old Loki clears

[formal wagon]

big mom got a concussion that brought her down to kaido level, so loki beats her so long as its after the double brain injury

[pine scaffold]

I wonder how Wang Zhi got his scar

[formal wagon]

oh shit i forgot he was in this chapter

[pine scaffold]

Yeah he had a huge moment

[trim lily]

but the shanks theory implies getting a concussion increases your strength

[pine scaffold]

alongside Roger, BM, WB and Shiki

[formal wagon]

so tuff

[bold sonnet]

Most likely from another pirate

[iron oriole]

Likely fighting over Hachinosu

[pine scaffold]

notice the scar

[grand flower]

He had to. He and Luffy have the same dream

[formal wagon]

noticed

[tranquil blade]

He's so raw

[pine scaffold]

he's aurafarming

[trim lily]

wang zhi won god valley

[formal wagon]

i believe he got the scar from himself because he's the only one capable of doing that kind of damage

[frozen aspen]

I forgot that bm probably got cte

shanks parallel 🤔

[brittle basin]

Where did Wang go off to?

[tranquil blade]

Wang Zhi was in the top 6 on that crew

[formal wagon]

shanks got cte?

[brittle basin]

u have CTE

[sweet anvil]

I don’t know how to put it into words but they’ve always felt different to me regarding their will

[trim lily]

he ruled hachinosu for 40 years

[brittle basin]

but yes, Shanks has CTE

[formal wagon]

and he's not 6 or 7 or 5 or 4 or 3

[frozen aspen]

well he got dropped as a baby

[pine scaffold]

So he scarred himself to look cool?

[brittle basin]

i keep forgetting this

[frozen aspen]

surely smth wrong with his brain

[tranquil blade]

Really had to get that 7 in there huh

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-thinking-monkey-monkey-meme-monkey-finger-monkey-finger-in-mouth-gif-8112093780925939056

[formal wagon]

yeah like luffy and everyone else with non blackbeard scars

[trim lily]

shanks and luffy both got dropped on their heads as kids and they’re both good

it’s no coincidence

[pine scaffold]

you would think this is slander

[bold sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/south-park-67-67-south-park-67-south-park-6-7-gif-13284396363591354590

[pine scaffold]

but this actually happened

[brittle basin]

brain damage=empathy

[steel stirrup]

That explains a lot

[formal wagon]

Also this means blackbeard gave shanks that scar while shanks was a CD 😭

[brittle basin]

this explains why i'm such an asshole

[pine scaffold]

ngl I aint seeing enough 67 memes tbh

[steel stirrup]

No regen???

[pine scaffold]

this is like the one time to go crazy with 67 memes

ITS 1167

COME ON

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/megamind-gif-26070434

[sweet anvil]

I feel like it’s also a bit weird if Roger was to be the only one to inherit joyboys will it should’ve been a more recurring thing throughout history

[sweet anvil]

Unless he didn’t

[tranquil blade]

All memes must die eventually

[formal wagon]

bb's got that super haki

[steel stirrup]

Bruh

[bold sonnet]

Isn't that new ai baby meme the new rage?

[pine scaffold]

nah not 67

[formal wagon]

hawk tuah died

[pine scaffold]

thats gonna be around for another 500 years

[tranquil blade]

Either Shanks has no regen or BB is just that tuff

[formal wagon]

and we thought it would live forever

no one tuahs anymore

[sweet anvil]

Both imo

[bold sonnet]

Both

[pine scaffold]

This shit isnt lasting a week

im gonna be brutally honest

[bold sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-ai-130-backpack-supreme-backpack-baby-tuff-baby-meme-gif-2218754133828871165

[tranquil blade]

He's right, sb is actually saying something true for once

[pine scaffold]

it doesn't have the charm to be a long lasting meme

[tranquil blade]

https://tenor.com/view/baseball-brainrot-brain-rot-tung-tung-tung-sahur-tung-tung-tung-tung-sahur-gif-14634229915399093883

[hot cairn]

https://x.com/miu_wallp/status/1994391954667262064?s=20

Miury (@miu_wallp)

Corazon and Law

X · Nov 28, 2025, 1:04 PM

[hot cairn]

what is going on in this video man

who is that brown thing

[brittle basin]

hahahahahaha remember that time Law just decided his Room can silence BM just like Corazon's power? ha, classic Loda.

[tranquil blade]

I dont have the answers

[pine scaffold]

dont answer

😭

[brittle basin]

it's like some alien entity just appeared out of nowhere

[frozen aspen]

if that was true 99% of ppl in this fandom would be saints

[brittle basin]

i have no brain damage. explains so much. i'm gonna go jump off a cliff real quick. brb.

[trim lily]

the one piece fandom is famously kind

[brittle basin]

i'm gonna become so kind

[tranquil blade]

Redon on a Monday morning:

https://tenor.com/view/d9luxe-cry-gif-300276708782576950

[pine scaffold]

What if instead of slander like ''fraudhawk'' we post wholesome slander instead

[trim lily]

exactly

especially now that we’re approaching the holiday season

[pine scaffold]

TRUE

[azure socket]

Help me understand something with the timelines. When harald spoke with the god's knights, there was garling there, but which son was it? Is it shamrock or shanks on that panel? At the time shanks hadn't go to the holy land yet, right?

[trim lily]

the first one is shamrock

then shamrock grows out his hair later

[azure socket]

Ah yeah, and garling introduces shanks to harald later in the chapter

[formal wagon]

whats wholesome slander look like

AWESOMEHAWK IS SO GOATED HE TURNED HIS BLADE BLACK THROUGH AN UNKOWN METHOD THATS LIKELY JU-sT HAKI

[tranquil blade]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/925855860557746267/1178185466672066651/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp_2.gif

[pine scaffold]

I think Kuma has lots of potential to be wholesome slandered

[formal wagon]

ENEL HAS THE BEST HAKI FEAT IN THE SERIES AND WE"VE SEEN HIS FEET AS WELL

[olive sigil]

Instead of fraudhawk we say peaksta?

[frozen aspen]

Shamrock having short hair feels wrong

[trim lily]

it does

[formal wagon]

she obsrvation on my haki till i mantra

[pine scaffold]

Shamrock outfit this chap > current day fit

[olive sigil]

@ashen perch ^^^

[pine scaffold]

YEP I SAID IT

[formal wagon]

feet

[tranquil blade]

Oh no

[frozen aspen]

true the open shirt is sluttier

[formal wagon]

relevant because we're talking abotu skypiea and feet

everything is done for a reason

[trim lily]

if flashback shamrock had his current day braids it’d be perfect

[brittle basin]

I hope the best for Hannybal's new career.

[ashen perch]

Ping

[tranquil blade]

Its not worth it

[formal wagon]

tfw

[tranquil blade]

Dont look at the ping

[ashen perch]

Did you guys notice it, the chapter number

[formal wagon]

tfw you get pinged

[pine scaffold]

Idk if I prefer him with facial hair or none

[tranquil blade]

Yes

[ashen perch]

It was very funny

[trim lily]

116

[formal wagon]

no i didn't

[tranquil blade]

676767676767676767676767676767676767

[ashen perch]

6....7....

[formal wagon]

WHAAAAAAAT

[ashen perch]

Haha

[formal wagon]

now that is aweosmse

[trim lily]

i hope next chapter isn’t 1168

[tranquil blade]

tfw you mess up the message

[trim lily]

that’d be kind of problematic

[formal wagon]

will i get super rare double bass pro fishing or also rare dinosaur water creature thing

vote now

or neither

[blazing depot]

Holy chopped

[formal wagon]

its been neither every time i've tried and i've tried like 6 or seven times

[trim lily]

young sommers looks good

[formal wagon]

garling was gyat rizz

shanks looked good in the freak outfit as well

[scenic dirge]

Guys did you know that on June 7th 2067, we’ll be able to write the date as 6/7/67

[pine scaffold]

This is by far the worst Sommers has ever looked

[ashen perch]

Wow

[jagged slate]

Bro

[gloomy tree]

[trim lily]

will anyone here still be around by then

[formal wagon]

i wish i could super fire react that

[jagged slate]

Shanks is a rat

[formal wagon]

'how do i super react

[jagged slate]

Or a double agent

I wanna believe he's a double agent and he's just trolling the World Government

[formal wagon]

i did it i figured it out

[bold sonnet]

Based

[formal wagon]

im so technologypilled techmaxxed techbob

[trim lily]

that is the case yes

[formal wagon]

pin this

[trim lily]

no

[brittle basin]

pin this

[pine scaffold]

even this chapter, nobody took Garling seriously

Everyone thinks Garling is a joke

[formal wagon]

you only get the safety pin

sorryt yhta was mean

[dense rapids]

😂😂

[trim lily]

i can’t take his hair seriously

[pine scaffold]

ngl he may never run away from this slander

even current day

[trim lily]

he needs the full moon to complete it

[tranquil blade]

What the fuck was the point in super reacts

[pine scaffold]

people will never let this shit go

[bold sonnet]

😭

[tranquil blade]

Seriously why did they add this feature

[formal wagon]

he looks cool here

[scenic dirge]

Wait I just realized in 2067, I’ll be turning 67 years old

[brittle basin]

He looks like a member of the Beetles who got kicked out.

[trim lily]

so you can react but super

[pine scaffold]

he looks terrible there

[scenic dirge]

That’s really awesome

[bold sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/south-park-67-67-south-park-67-south-park-6-7-gif-13284396363591354590

[tranquil blade]

That STUPID nodding creature

[pine scaffold]

Garling really believed Shanks

[formal wagon]

so epic

[vestal mural]

Bro wtf

[ashen perch]

67

[wet heron]

unless Harald comes clean he's a fool rn. I think he will betray the wg eventually, sommers and others seemed angry at him when they were speaking about how he messed up their plans.

[tranquil blade]

It's real too mip

[dapper tree]

He is

[tranquil blade]

It's an actual south park episode

[pine scaffold]

Harald is eventually gonna betray

[vestal mural]

Is it an actual 67 joke in a new episode?

[deep chasm]

Harald has good intentions but yea hes very gullible

[brittle basin]

if it becomes famous overnight, you can bet South Park may poke fun of it

[tranquil blade]

There is a whole episode about it

[vestal mural]

It’s been a good run guys. Time to kms

[wet heron]

you guys

[vestal mural]

Can’t believe you’re still on the c4n train

[scenic dirge]

Garling is intentionally being portrayed this way to make him come across as the pinnacle of CD depravity and bitchness

[pine scaffold]

Dont let the slander die

Garling is never running away from this

[brittle basin]

Elder Garling has a lot to make up for.

[deep chasm]

will always show respect to it. it was gonna happen until an editor complained to oda about her joining

[vestal mural]

Why are people hating on garling? He’s chill

[frozen aspen]

ofc we wouldn't wanna miss when oda finally reveals the op

[scenic dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-doakes-curious-suspicious-questioning-gif-14390669560130901665

[vestal mural]

https://tenor.com/view/cope-harder-cope-sir-cope-sir-american-psycho-gif-26276799

[trim lily]

garlic was pretty nice to harald

even introduced his new son

[wraith mantle]

Harald a dog

[keen quiver]

Harald has no self respect

[vestal mural]

No like legit

[scenic dirge]

I do not know if I’d use the word “chill” to describe Garling but he’s definitely something

[wraith mantle]

Honestly bro

This man pathetic

[trim lily]

i’m happy for him

[vestal mural]

I meant chill as in I’m cool with him

[trim lily]

harald is so excited to be in his new job

[formal wagon]

yeah i forgot that he was commiting henious acts for super opressive war criminals of mega evil cause he was so happy doing it 😭

[frozen aspen]

clothing choices in GV aside Garling does have a cool design

[tranquil blade]

It's a real bad look for Harald

[pine scaffold]

is it possible Harald unintentionally betrayed

like he did it by mistake

[trim lily]

no

[brittle basin]

i like Harald's face here

[formal wagon]

"kill these innocents for us harald"
" 😃 yes sir! !! "

[frozen aspen]

if only I didn't feel like I was starring at shanks when i see his face...

[dapper tree]

ANYTHING for Elbaf

[trim lily]

hey they were enemies of the WG!

[vestal mural]

Harald is such a bitch ass ngl

[pine scaffold]

Harald would have sacrificed Ida for the WG

I seriously think he would

[brittle basin]

no

[keen quiver]

"If I keep being a good slave I'll get promoted ? what an honor !!!"

[pine scaffold]

nah he would

[brittle basin]

never

[dapper tree]

That's why loki killed him

[vestal mural]

He def would

[pine scaffold]

Hes in it way too deep now

[brittle basin]

Wait hold on now....

[pine scaffold]

hes getting all excited over killing people

[frozen aspen]

i hope he actually does something out of pocket for the elders so ppl will stop trying to defend this worm behavior

[vestal mural]

Harald somehow keeps getting worse

[dapper tree]

I'm cooking

[vestal mural]

I was giving him the benefit of the doubt but nah man

[deep chasm]

The problem with harald is how giddy he is

[vestal mural]

I can’t defend this mf anymore

[deep chasm]

if he made the decision but was upset with it, thatd be fair

[tranquil blade]

"It's an honor!!" and you just got branded with a tattoo of oppression

[pine scaffold]

he shouldnt be this happy doing it

[tranquil blade]

Like okay bro

[deep chasm]

he running around like YES SIR LET ME SUCK IT

[brittle basin]

well, Harald used to enjoy being violent. Maybe this is just legally allowing him to be his old self. 😈

[frozen aspen]

whoever said he ripped out the last bit of brain he had with his horns was right

[tranquil blade]

Maybe Xebec was right about everything

[vestal mural]

Harald is such a man of extremes, and they’re all shit

[formal wagon]

its looking so fucking insanely good for water dinosaur creature thing

[pine scaffold]

Harald is worse than Oden

like its not even comparable

[deep chasm]

oden made a controversial defision but was never happy about it

harald is just bad

[azure socket]

The timeline with fish tiger is a bit confusing no? 16 years he freed himself and escaped mary geoise, and 15 years ago he went back to free the slaves, including hancock. But the chapter makes it seem that he freed himself (with the help of shanks) and released the slaves that time too, and not 1 year later when he climbed the red line. am i missing something?

[vestal mural]

Dude, xebec is like the most right about everything rn. Good thing he died before seeing Harald do this shit

He would have died if a broken heart

[tranquil blade]

Xebec might've killed Harald if he saw this

[formal wagon]

3/4 possible water fossil units

[vestal mural]

Harald is not comparable to oden at all. It’s wild people bring that up

[pine scaffold]

you'd be surprised how many ppl still think Oden is worse

[frozen aspen]

Rocks would have died of second hand embarrassment if he had survived GV

[vestal mural]

?????????

Oden’s sorry was genuinely understandable and emotional. Harald is just pissing me off now

[hasty sable]

Oden is still bad

Harald is wtf

[frozen aspen]

oden was disliked in general

[brittle basin]

Harald is desperate and it blinds him

[hasty sable]

I like Harald as a character more than Oden because I think he’s irrational in a way that makes more sense

[frozen aspen]

yeah

[vestal mural]

Nah he’s just an idiot

[frigid gulch]

I don’t think he’s giddy about it tbh

[frozen aspen]

I've been saying that for ages

[vestal mural]

Such an archer take

[hasty sable]

Harald is genuinely really flawed on purpose and Oden we are meant to excuse all the boneheaded shit he did

[frigid gulch]

He just has to do all that stuff

From his perspective

[vestal mural]

“Yea bro a man whom made a mistake once is way worse than the guy who sucks toes for breakfast”

[frigid gulch]

“Of course, just say the word”

[frozen aspen]

but ppl here went like" but he is thinking of the benefits for his country!" like ok but he is still missing the obvious huge red flags dude

[hasty sable]

I don’t think Oden is worse than Harald lol

[frigid gulch]

I mean the man offered himself up as a slave

[hasty sable]

I think Harald is exponentially worse

[frigid gulch]

He’s gonna do their bidding

[vestal mural]

.

[frigid gulch]

Anything for Elbaf

[brittle basin]

Ida taught him the art of being kind and caring to humans, and now he will do whatever for Elbaf.

whatever

[hasty sable]

I think that Harald being this desperate works with the logic of his character even if he’s horribly wrong

[frozen aspen]

yeah harald being this naive is kind of the point and i hope that before he dies, he at least acknowledges his own errors

[frigid gulch]

Is that why Ida got nuked?

[vital heart]

Harald is a fine giant. He will do whatever I ask of him to do. I just hope he doesn't turn on me one day.

-Imu

[hasty sable]

Whereas Oden kind of just allowed slavery to go on in his country for five years

[vestal mural]

I have honestly lost the plot of what his character is. He’s just pissing me off now

[hasty sable]

It’s sunk cost at this point

[vestal mural]

Ok fair

[keen quiver]

Thank god I never liked harald

[hasty sable]

He has to go all in because he’s sacrificed so much for his dream already

[deep chasm]

He definitely seems giddy. Hes acting excited about all this

[brittle basin]

i forgot what Oden did that labeled him as bad. He left the country behind to sail the seas when they needed him? And he danced, but I forgot the context behind the dancing.

[frigid gulch]

That’s the key

[frigid gulch]

It’s an act

[deep chasm]

At least with oden, oden would do stuff reluctantly

[vestal mural]

He danced to save people. Bit kaido just lied

[brittle basin]

that's a good one

[keen quiver]

Its gonna blow up in his face and he'll be like "you promised me !!!!"

[frigid gulch]

He has to be in their “good graces” I assume

[deep chasm]

I dont think its clear thats an act. With shanks its more obvious, we know how he is and his actions completely contradict his words this chapter.

Harald we cant assume hes just acting

[frozen aspen]

twitter in op world would be fire

[brittle basin]

yeah see i forgot about what lie kaido made. i need to reread

[deep chasm]

But you can be in their good graces without coming off fully giddy and naive

[hasty sable]

Oden 1) ignored the threat of Orochi in his country when he returned for the road poneglyph, 2) chose to believe Orochi and allow his crimes to go on for five years giving Kaido time to entrench his power

[deep chasm]

Yes sir and then do your job. But hes running around excited about everything

[shell scroll]

I wonder how shanks got back into the family

[brittle basin]

he's genuinely excited to bring Elbaf into the fold

[frigid gulch]

You really think he’s happy to be obeying them like this ?

[vestal mural]

He told him he’d let some number of people go free for every day he danced. And oden believed it

[frozen aspen]

Ngl i think they contacted him first

[frigid gulch]

Obviously not

[deep chasm]

Yes

[keen quiver]

No not obvious

[deep chasm]

how is that obvious