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maybe
by stupidity for sure
I’d like to see the beginning of their convos that’s all
That alone would explain a lot
He doesnt have domi reversi features
Actually idk
This feels like Shirahoshi talking
Maybe he does get turned but i dont think so initially
Maybe Imu can only do that with a Deep Sea Contract
Shirahoshi do be a trembler
Rocks resisted initially
Shaking in her little boots
I can see it
So it can happen still
Her what?
“You can see it” are you stupid?
Fuck you
Damn
It doesn’t to me yet , maybe because I haven’t seen her talk that much after luffy intervention , just bits and pieces , but everything can be answered if we see the beginning of their correspondence with each other
I spit on you
I’m low-key hoping Oda is trolling there
I wanna see the theorists lose
oh yeah its for sure her
I have paranoia that it might not be her
with the shirahoshi thing?
But it may be lost
So far the bodies of all original Yonkos except Shanks’ have been burned by magma. Could Shanks burn in magma ws well at some point?
Yes

Its (insert blatant shitpost character)
This is just unfair man lmao , is this how everyone talks when they believe they’re right? I guess I can’t really talk huh
I don’t think anyone is actually denying it from what I’ve seen after this chapter lol? It’s 99.9% confirmed
Yall aint ready for this
i was talking to yc
There’s a good bunch of us denying it still
“Gear…evil!”
I just dont see the way Mosa talks too different from Shirahoshi except if theres differences in japanese
About me lol
Where do these even come from
Yeah but you’re special Earl. You’re an innocent little lamb that we must protect at all costs
you're free to say whatever you like earl
There are
about people denying its shirahoshi yeah
you were like that with shiki on elbaph agenda
There’s also the fact that Shirahoshi has gotta be relevant again before the manga is over
if its really her , did something happned in fishman island ?
Very possible
the difference in language is nothing of note
BB raids FMI
it perfectly passes as her
Ahhh
Yeah I was also like peolle right now not seeing red herrings
Bro is a speedreader
Bb may be attacking. Maybe WG retaliation after that Celestial Dragon was flattened
Im scared its a red herring but alone for the fact Oda acknowledged ShiraLoki I feel vindicated
Don’t think it perfectly does but yeah
What is there to deny besides the undying will of copium which is obviously based. A man’s cope never ends and all
I still can see it happening without her being mosa
Storywise their trajectory is bound to cross
I think you need to post panels from reverie cause this was before her promise with luffy about not being a crybaby
imagine if nika fruit prevents luffy from being domi reversi'd and imu is there like
Earl this is like one of the first panels shes talking in and her gimmick is dialed to 100%
In the Japanese, Oda pretty cleverly had Loki interrupt Mosa before they could fully say “san or sama” or whatever
man just accept arsal was right
So
Ok now
take the L gracefully
Pretty decent evidence there
Please do not be attributing Mosahoshi to Arsal
again, what is the relevance of this? this is a stranger yelling at her. she doesnt speak like that when she's calm
as she is on the phone with loki
Yeah and if mosa has been talking to look for more than 3 months it would tell us a lot , if we can see how mistakes originally to loki at first
I’d rather be wrong than give Arsal credit
I want to feel heard 🙏🏻
@ashen perch great job on the thery btw buddy
This guy doesnt deserve this good coloring 😭
thanks
socrates did you like the chapter
She says sama to everyone , mosa is like 5 notches quieter and more polite
count on socrates to pump this channel full of ai slop
Talent in the hands of a jester
he’s already gloating about it
it’s too late
i dont remember mosa calling loki by name
Well he was right
IT'S SHANKS SZN
He’s allowed to gloat
"ai slop" and it's just Oda's drawings in color
You have the power to change things
@runic dock
and I will gloat about it for weeks to come, till I am right again
then I will gloat about that
it was put through ai to make it in the style of the anime
But I’m not giving him full ownership of any theory. Even if he created it. I’d rather have the plague than give him all the credit
it must suck being a shanks hater rn
Idk if it’ll be a fair showcase since she was also under stress in reverie , anyone would cry if being attempted to be kidnapped , but we could post those
I love when liquids glow giving away the fact that you should NOT be drinking them
You can do that? 
What about when I colored one of Oda's panels?
You can still make points how Shirahoshi isnt Mosa but the way Earl does it feels like coping
I didnt create it, I heard about it and I added onto it
Bah humbug that is AI
so I wont take credit for that part
I am the AI.
gorgeous
the coloring is good too
It’s a fools game to hate any character that Oda himself loves. You will always lose
yeah yeah it’s fine
That could be something yeah , I thought it would have been san
but itll all be over when BM doesnt return in Elbaph
People trying their best out here
dread it
ok no cheating allowed what exactly is the main reason yall guessed shirahosi
Socrates I am not sure how to say this nicely
Loki’s an arsonist
Thighbreaker and me were the first one to ship Loki and Shirahoshi or say theres a connection in general, then I think it was Merry who came up with the Shirahoshi is Mosa theory
and what was used to draw odas work in color 
but you do seem to be the type to enjoy AI artwork, like it doesnt surprise me
justice4merry
I mean I guess bro this isn't a bad thing
yeah I heard it from you and Merry
tf is this lol
Because of the shaggy nickname being said before even Elbaf arc
Merry did nothing wrong. Or maybe he did, but I'll give him another chance.
well first of all, we had to assume that it was a mystery character that Oda wanted us to figure out the identity of. Then the pieces naturally fell in place. The recent incident that traumatized Mosa? that would be Shirahoshi's attempted kidnapping by Charloss. The thing that is going to prevent Mosa from talking with Loki for a while? that would be BB attacking FMI based on the information he got from Caribou. The name "Mosa"? a reference to Roger referring to Neptune's yet to be born daughter as shaggy or "moja moja", which in essence was the same as Mosa in Japanese. The personality? that fit Shirahoshi as well, very timid and shy. We also assumed that Shirahoshi stating that Vander Decken is not her type means that she does have a type, and then recently Oda teased it in a SBS too. We also assumed that the two sovereigns could indeed be Loki and Shirahoshi. We also recently learnt of a giant group of shipwrights, Galley-La after the seakings under Shirahoshi's command said that they need to find a certain group of shipwrights to repair Noah, we also assumed that Loki will be involved in helping Shirahoshi with that. Then there were the parallels:
Shirahoshi is bound to her room for years, in the castle by the root of the Eve Sunlight tree because of the death of her mother. She knew what really happened to her.
Loki is bound to the underworld for years, below the castle by the roots of the Adam World Tree because of the death of his father. He knew what really happened to him.
that was scooby doo
I dunno
no
when roger was talking to neptune, no?
posted this earlier for someone else
let that mf stay away
I believe that was it yeah
So oden fb?
Ngl, I liked Mosahoshi mostly because I think it sounded neat conceptually. Sounds like a cool dynamic based on them being royalty but kind of different in their own way
wtf is going on with shanks
Mosa?
It could still happen , I don’t even doubt them interacting somehow , I just feel like mosa is a middle man
To make that happen
Did Lola find out about Shirahoshi?
we were first
double agent traitor shenanigans
did roger really call her shaggy
I feel like I remember this conversation
he acting
I must've been there idk, but regardless, I got the theory from you and Merry
He’s infiltrated mariejois probably to find out more about his family , he still loves Roger and is a good person tho , he’s putting up a front , a cover
like of course oda managed to insert his golden boy into fisher tiger's liberation of slaves
yeah
he called her Moja Moja, which was kind of the same as Mosa
I mentioned it all in the long post
this shanks hate smh
Moja Moja - Roger
Mosa Mosa - Harald
so its different, but same essentially
he says something to neptune about his "shaggy daughter"
no I posted a whole thing, none of it is bs smh
Viz will probably still say moja
Bet
moja is mosa
It's Shirahoshi, I ain't got all day for more red herrings like with the burn scar man
Viz will go with Shaggy, which is what they went with for Roger too
There’s no red herrings with him yet , just people not knowing what a burn scar is
who was a red herring for the burn scar man?
I don't remember seeing anyone mention the roger thing before I would be more inclined to believe the theory
It’s not a flamboyant slash that looks like a flame
WE created the red herrings with our own headcanons. But I'm gonna blame Oda anyway.
It’s a burn scar
i remember it, but i dont like shirahoshi so i didnt care about the theory
I just saw arsal making up shit and ignored itlol
😭
it shouldve been eris
they keep winning
it was all legitimate, you guys dont get it
man this was such a good chapter. def worth the wait

mip
Arsal, you're Jesus in this context.
I can make my stuff sound legit too I get you

all my theories are based on legitimate things
Only thing going through their brains
#also-manga message 10 months old
mip do you have access to the japanese chapters
sup rok
I dont make up anything smh
Shouldve listened to me 
uhhhh not really. the one site i used to use is down now i think
which one do you need?
ughh
Mosa is shirahoshi
i might be able to find it
Fisher tiger upscale
I think https://mangafire.to has them if it still exists
Free read manga online in high quality. Update hourly, No ads, No registration required. Just enjoy your manga ;)
Guess it does
But I think they're hard to download
fr, you see why reading blind is better than spoilers?
@digital spear@ashen perch@rose rune what made you guys think mosahoshi was real like the basis for the theory
chapter 620, this panel
There was a discussion earlier about fisher tiger not literally climbing the red line and that it was metaphorical or whatever
1 year until Harald dies
Seems like he had it before the castle incident
I thought it was a crack theory
yeah u do
this chapter specifically was def way better blind
This is the year before the castle incident
LMFAO WHAT
rok you dont need japanese for that
Look at the year of the incident
who's the idiot saying he didnt
Chapter 1152
Wonder where that came from
he tripped
Maybe Heaven Realm sparring match
100%
@vestal mural this was the post
Heaven Realm monster Loki was trying to tame and he got his horn scratched
YOU THINK YOU'RE SO SMART, HUH?!
this chapter, FT escapes and rescues the slaves at the same time
there really is a reasonable doubt that fisher tiger didnt climb the red line now
IM VERY INCLINED TO THINK THAT NOW YES
the point is that he escaped and came back to free them
Guys I was on Shiraloki before Lokis design was even revealed
False, I've never made up anything smh
Okay thats Shiraloki tho, fair but not Mosahoshi
@sage temple as the resident Loki fan, did the enjoy the chapter
Fisher Tiger not actually scaling up a 30k foot wall is cheeks
Can you predict when he falls head over heels for Lola
Merry has the first claim on Mosahoshi
Or continent
unless oda just did a really bad job portraying it this chapter, it makes it look like fisher tiger's escape and then attack on mariejois was the same event
If it gets shown, I predict 1170
Or 1171
Post time skip isn’t canon
listen ive already got my pitchfork in hand waiting for the volume correction or sbs or something to address this
I'm putting money on chapter 1170 that Loki meets Lola tho
Which is straight up just wrong, Oda gotta address it
which is the problem!
As I was walking down the street some asshole purposely tripped me. Before I could pick myself up he whispered quietly in my ear "Mosa is Shirahoshi". Here is my question: why did you do that Arsal?
yeah :D
what did oda tease in an sbs
quick question
Someone asked Oda if he was Shirahoshis type, he replied "I can't say but I do know Shirahoshi's future!"
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Which is teasing that she'll be finding her type at some point soon, basically
Pitchforks in hand
Almost time for the Castle Incident
ok one sec
1-2 more chapters 
can you check if this link works for you
grab me the panel if so
if it turns out to be a Red Herring I will still push Shiraloki 
I can't listen to this shit now lol
it's not loading for me
im in loading hell
banger
Long distance relationship
Hajrudin spreading lies
I used to like it. I watched a bunch of those AMVs when I was kid. I can't listen to none of 3DG stuff any more lol
But I immediately thought of that song
i mean he wasnt wrong
you have no room to be talking, frenchie
Icon must be Haitian
True Loki hasn't actually set a town on fire except for this time where he did it in retaliation
I thought spice was the french one
Spice is even though he denies it
spice is french canadian
That would explain a lot of things
are they lies?
Truly a despicable origin /j
he did set the place on fire...
by oda?
isnt this for that pillow case
Is that the sunlight tree eve
The reason the panel is so bright
I mean the fire would've spread across elbaf if nothing was done
Uranus
Pewpiece said it was official
its official merch
Poseidon x Uranus...
So I guess it’s the previous fight on the red line
The next fight on the red line is happening soon
shouldve been neptune...
How old is neptune
Maybe idk
70
Btw how does the chapter reference the Florian Triangle?
Neptune is pretty fucking large
it gets mentioned
He's bigger than I thought he was yeah
Neptune is like bigger than Kaido I think
Btw its kinda funny Harald witnessed Neptunes birth and is now hanging out with him
I noticed that this chapter
they think harald mightve been the florian triangle myth
He's not as big as Harald but I thought he'd be only up to his knee or something lol
Looks quite a bit bigger than that
neptune is like 30ft or something
how could I miss that? I deserve to be a slave for Imu-sama!
Even larger than Big Mom
The father of Poseidon & The father of Uranus
cook
do not encourage it
Neptune is 40 feet according to the wiki
Nola = Master of The Sky
Uranus = God of the Sky
wait, what gods did the miral of the first world mention?
Shirahoshi is 38'11"
that's why arsal was an expert
What about this parallel
This isn't the parallel sheet
It's the Hellfire Serpent one
You might have to make a new parallel sheet you ran out of space
page 3 of the loki powerpoint
Harald’s is more appropriate
I'm just wondering where to put it
Meh Loki inherits Davy's will not Harald
I'll put Davy for the time being

Socrates doesn’t know
@hazy turret found it. funny enough the "rose up" part isn't even there lol. if you want the literal translation its basically "he was verbose about being different than humans. he violated the world's taboo". does this help?
Loki has so much
Said to have Legendary Devil Fruit
2.6b Special Bounty
Special Eyes
Lightning Hammer
Davy relations
Was Tiger climbing the Red Line just a psyop
Crazy bro
“World taboo” is pretty funny cause it makes me think about Rocks violating Article 18
Loool
mandela effect. i could have sworn the anime showd him climbing it
im pretty sure it did
That stuff was propaganda
Oda use some device to fuck with our memories
Even the anime got tricked
it does in some ways, now im just wondering if him climbing the red line is just a misconception
I think it did
I think Boa is the one who mentioned it
freeing the slaves was a taboo? 😭
literally
I don’t get the impression that “rose up” means he actually climbed the red line
But that’s just me
It’s more like he got up for that cause
tekking has the answer I bet. he always does.
rose up typically just means resisting and standing up against oppression
also, SBS Oda.
Yup
first result on yt 
this is big news. So Loki is the serpent. Maybe he can transform to a snake
guys we mass hellucinated him climbing the red line
I wonder if he has this in addition to his legendary Devil Fruit
mass psychosis
mass hysteria
this is Oda’s fault
So the best climbing feat is Loki as a baby

WWW
Oda is a demon
I just can’t prove it
did the wiki just make it up
luffy climbing in drum island with nami on his back >>>>>>>
No I think someone must have messed up the translation back then
@frigid gulch shoutout to you
You right now.
Hancock gaslit us all
literally lmao
what chapter is that
We are back. Suck it, Oda.
521
Loki was born seconds ago>>>>>
first and last time i treat you with any decency
Shutcho
Loki also beheaded a bear
this the official translation?
it should be
Not taking the denial
Only Holy Knight to find and confront Fisher Tiger is the sleeper agent. You cant make this up
Opfans when the characters climb
😭
Climb Piece
Loki still has the presumably best climbing feat in all of One Piece
Oda giving us so much Shanks lore this flashback plus some Teach lore and skipping their fight in this flashback .. means in present day it’s almost that time for their inevitable fight 🍿
I mean that's pretty hard to climb
Now that FT is a fraud
Scalingscaling. Holy shit.
Literally seconds after being born as well?
AND beheading a bear?
watch your mouth you little shit
Oda cooked with this mural. There is so much information there.
If it wasn't for Shanks people wouldn't be calling FT a fraud
ok cant find the panel. if you ever find it ping me with it
It's his fault
Even with the assist its a huge feat for FT
Goodness me I love being a Loki fan
the anime even shows a shot of the red line when she mentions fisher tiger climbing it
Hate it
So is Shangara a separate location?
!fishertiger
💩
Anime only
🤷♂️
but what grade was it? like V7+?
It's on the red line but it cant be right in the middle with pangea castle
many such cases
Oda gonna go back on Shanks saying “I wasn’t careless” against BB at this rate
he should let me take over the series
V17
Just to make him totally infallible
V17+ to be honest
Makes sense with the gorosei line to (presumably) Shamrock
damn that's pretty high
I still think it’s Shanks
i wonder how viz will translate shangara
Shanks haters are so cooked
agenda aside, you cant tell me loki/s climb has more impact than luffy in drum
i legit cried during luffy's climb
meek really insisted in making it a shandora connection over shangri la
Shanks fans are CD-coded
!wokereader
don’t do it Mip
it’s Socrates
It works for either one now
Two different kinds of impact here tho
Shankara
Well I didn't cry
Impact is subjective
i love how thick shanks lays it on
One is meant to show sheer love and determination while the other is meant to show sheer determination and tragedy
if he had a moustache he'd be twirling it
Not worried about yall since we up
Roger taught Shanks the code

In a serious sense, its a nice display of character that Garling and Shamrock can fall for such inhuman and unnatural talk from Shanks because they themselves couldnt fathom someone liking life down there
The shot of baby loki crying is meant to be shockingly tragic. Powerscaling aside
Yeah
this whole shanks thing makes way more sense now
I cried during Loki's climb
So you just have to virtue signal and youre in
Easy to pretend too
pussy
Crazy impact right guys
I was literally gassing Loki while you weren’t here, I aint a hater pal
stop disrespecting the goat. He is watching in this server
hydrogen bomb vs coughing loki
I cried so it's super impactful
true
Woo hoo
in the anime when luffy's fingers started slipping and he grinded his bloody nails on the wall trying to hold on
Also love how they created the narrative tjat shamrock is the older brother
shamrock is 2 seconds older
Dexter
When they do not know
he has authority

dude that slip broke me
maybe he came first out of the womb
Didn't call you a hater I just know Loki is 1st in quite a bit of things
artur is still alive?
Well, Shanks hit his head, so mentally he may as well be the younger brother.
No way for them to so know since he killed mama
Ik Shamrock was gritting his teeth when he told Loki that Shanks likes life on the surface more
They just say hes older
Yea
Big op account
shocking
Its clearly a power thing
I wanna see Shanks bowl over Shamrock when he makes his escape so bad
im glad shamrock still got along with his brother
Make it like Bonney punching Alpha to start her adventure
Does this chapter make it feel like the person who met with the Gorosei is for sure not Shanks? Would they be willing to admit him into the Holy Land after all this?
Easy to do when brother is trying to kiss ass
It’s kinda sad shanks never met rocks
yeah i think its nigh guaranteed its shamrock
ye
garlic especially wouldnt ever let shanks back
It makes it more dubious for sure
he'd kill him on sight
I think it’s Shanks
This makes the Buggy and Shanks scene more powerful too. Shanks wanted to hang out with his friend but he had to go with the CD's
💔
I still think it was Shanks
heartbreaking
the evil twin reveal is kind of pointless if that was shanks anyway lol
the gorosei’s reaction to him being there says it all
How much does Shanks know? He only had the first level of the Deep Sea tattoo, so maybe that wasn't enough to get all the juicy info, like who Imu was?
it’s definitely shanks
Roger told him he had to go live with his racist family to learn their secrets
definitely knows a lot
maybe Shamrock told him
His final words to Shanks lol
poor shanks just wanted to have a nice pirating life with his bf
That being the reason he's crying would be hilarious
roger was the real villain after all
Maybe Oda wants us to believe it was Shamrock only to reveal it was Shanks afterall
No it reinforces that it was shanks
The holy knights are seen walking around the holy land in normal clothing
The person who met the elders sneaked in wearing a black cloak, meaning they tried to hide their identity. Shamrock wouldn’t do it, has to be shanks
exactly
one thing is for sure, Shamrock must be the one who scarred Whitebeard
"I'm dying Shanks, and your lineage is the most genocidal and pillaging fiends on Earth, so do with that what you will"
That last part makes sense. Unless Oda just hadwaves it away as some retcon. I want to still believe it's Shanks, since "a certain man" feels like something Shanks would know.
Yeah it would make shanks more interesting
The certain pirate is probably Loki or bb
No other possible choice
"Wait, our planet is called Earth?"
But idk why shanks would snitch on Loki
i think its safe to say its BB, probably regarding him being a davy
I knew someone would bring that up
no it’s called All Piece.
Shamrock was probably glad his little twin brother was also racist
Or at least acted racist
Shamrock was just glad that Shanks was back probably
How far did Shanks go? Was he forced to treat slaves poorly to keep up appearances?
Shanks ordered Ginny’s kidnapping to really sell the part
don't you dare
No.
or does that timeline even add up?
As much as I hate Shanks I cannot stand for slander like this
that’s crazy lmao
I'd get the editor that would suggest that to Oda fired and blacklisted for sure
Just for saying it
congrats to Khalid for most emotionally painful joke theory of the day
Poor Evil Buggy got his theory destroyed, obliterated
Ginnys kidnapper will be a nameless Celestial Dragon
the world is healing
Ophion the Heaven Snake is another name for Uranus
Ophion wife was a mermaid
@sage temple

Greek mythology
uranus already exists in greek mythology though
vibes
That could be the case
Ophion is another name for him
Greeks mythology really had everything huh
Her being royalty but also being like a scaredy cat or whatever. Its not too many people in the story that match that description
wasn't Ophion the son of the sky god and earth godess
i dont think thats true at all
If it exists they probably had a god for it
do you have a source
To explain it and shit
I mean, for me it just started from my convo with YC when I said Loki would be her type
if anything ophion is usually considered to be oceanus
this one
in one passage it is but its commonly equated with oceanus
I get it. Didn't they say something about the person on the other side of the snail was addressed as royalty in Japanese
his father was the sky god, no?
and mother was the earth godess
don't remember. probably
I could've swore when that chapter first dropped someone pointed out that the way Loki addressed Mosa implied they were royalty or high ranking in society but it was also sarcastic too
The dendenmushi looks like a bearded old man though
but I do remember mosa saying he/she was nervous to talk with him at first
It's hairy because it's a cold resistant model
Same
it's a beard wig
Could be king neptune instead of shirahoshi
Snow type Den Den
banger chapter today tho
goda
yeah this was the best chapter in a while
oh wait damn good point, i forgot this detail
i sighed when i read the chapter title
glad it wasn't a hajrudin chapter
I see
Blood broke one chain and now these Shanks fans losing they minds
its neptune lol
Best chapter since Imu arrived on Elbaf
ppl that had shirahoshi was close
Neptune proly felt bad for Loki knowing his circumstances
And contacted him
Under the alias of Mosa
it ain't anywhere close to best chapter
@sage temple
solid one sure
👀
Nah ts was the best chapter for a while
If Mosa is Neptune I’m eating toenail clippings on camera
i think id rather mosa be neptune
Mosa is trebol
partially cause itd be funny
I will remember this message
Luckily for you it probably wont be neptune
I feel like Shirahoshi is too timid and shy to be facetiming Loki regularly
You should be with me not against me wtf?
set up the camera already
ik ngas who cried when sanji kicked nusjuro😂😭
but in all honestly it's very obviously Shirahoshi
weakahoshi chatting with loki of all ppl? no chance
@vital heart where can we find the chapters in Japanese
This fisher tiger nonsense has me asking about the raws bruh
neptune puts on a dress and pretends to be shirahoshi, even tho it's over the phone and it's pointless
You don’t even know Japanese why you wanna look at raws lol
she'll learn
There was one site but it had diabolical ads
neptune and loki will be besties once they finally meet
Respect
hes a big boy
dawn and dusk/lunapienart is gonna clarify the fisher tiger shit in a sunday video probably
and explain it to the people who are confused
Shanks haters IN SHAMBLES after reading 1167
😭👀
lunapien, my beloved
you deadass?
I find this out after cussing the website out
cussing?
My dear friend mip does
[bleep] you, mailbox.
fuck you
fuck you

Fuck Toei
.... oda really wasted all that cover story and now drawing more bs
Shanks haters in the mud Fr
Mary Geoise > Merry Joy
Shangara > Shandora
Shanks fans so crazed they’re perfectly fine sacrificing fisher tiger for more brainless hype slop
Its kinda crazy that loki is going to end up an ally of the straw hats
The theory about them remixing the name could be true
After we all thought hed be main antagonist
Sacrificing fisher tiger??
the stupid raw leaker, censors and watermarks panels so japanese knowers cant even read
I appreciate this drawing so much
we?
u think fisher tiger is michael jordan
His achievement has been undermined, and the timeline has been fucked up
how would he have done that by himself
id trust him
rip bozo
He got some help what’s the big deal
not even for a sec i thought he would be xd
what do you mean sacrificing? without Shanks breaking him free he wouldn't be able to do his escapade and save countless slaves along his way
I'd keep his chin if I were Loki
Got some help? Shanks handed it to him lol
It wasn’t something that needed to be tampered with
You drew this, didn't you?
So we against freeing slaves now
shanks leaving an armory door open doesnt take away from fisher tiger at all
Shanks broke his cuffs and collar and then told him about the location of the armory, then it was all up to Fisher Tiger from there
Agenda piece getting out of hand
who’s we
Fisher Tiger didn't solo the Gorosei + Gods Knights anymore, gigantic downscale
I wish. he's peak male
Shanks got bit on purpose lol
i desperately hope thats not what oda does
genuinely the worst possible direction to go with all of this
"oh noo... my arm"
Symbolically cutting himself off from his family after he found the true future pirate king
Why else would he get bit
I wanted to join the revolution until I saw your pfp
Shanks was pretending to be a pirate before Luffy got his arm cut off, afterwards he became a real pirate because he was too embarrassed to show his face in marriejoia
to save luffy
Against a fodder sea beast 😭😭
yes
He’s too fast and strong for that at that point in the story
its a lot more meaningful for him to sacrifice his arm for luffy than just to get rid of the mark
He did kinda lock in right after huh
he couldve cut his arm off at any time
mf was grooming Luffy from day 1. next thing we know he left that fruit thereon purpose too 
Well he did both
It kind of does. Before this chapter, it was assumed that FT deliberately went back to mariejois and freed those slaves, that he had a plan in mind and executed it. NOW it seems like freeing the slaves was thanks to shanks cutting his chains and showing him where the weapons were. Shanks nudged him to freeing them instead of FT escaping o his own, reflecting and coming to the conclusion himself

but this takes away from it being a sacrifice for the next generation
He probably needed a good excuse to lose his arm in a natural way
you know how many years dragon caught slander for the fisher tiger stuff? It would make the revolutionary army look absolutely incompetent if fisher tiger was able to pull that off by himself without major help from the inside
Maybe you’re right and it’s not that , considering both options they both have their negatives lol
it was a 2x1
I mean yea that was obv the moment we saw this panel
It seems like a lot of the things we thought to be symbolic are now just literal
Holy shit lowkey you’re right

i liked the narrative that fisher tiger pulled off this unprecedented impossibility on his own
Oda covering for dragon with that shanks/fisher tiger move
but this change does make the WG and knights seem less incompetent
The difference is that dragon is looking to bring long time change, freeing some slaves didn’t change the system at all. It didn’t stop more people from getting enslaved. That’s the reason people say he didn’t go after Ginny, he can’t be taking risks like that
Harald wasp part of them, ofcoz they were incompetent
It also makes that point look better when you visibly can’t see someone pull it off alone
except Wapol
Wapol is gonna end up on the empty throne so that’s expected
Fisher tiger didn’t pull off what dragon wants to do. Dragon doesn’t just want to free slaves. If he did, then he would’ve been able to do what FT did too

I dont think it's that deep. shanks just made it so they actually had a chance of escaping. it was still FT who actually freed and lead everyone out
I keep seeing the twin swapping theory
the twin swap thing is so stupid
I agree , I just mean the desperate act of attempting to save one slave , it’s hard to pull off without help
why do people want to unnecessarily complicate things
he will do what Imu couldn't, sit on the throne with a blue haired wife by his side
That was a huge help tho , he got his exploding collar off
GET OFF THE STAGE!
Im not saying I believe it, just that I keep seeing it😭
Buggy?
It is. Which was also one of the reasons that made fisher tiger and his story so powerful 💔
5 head
Where they at so I can laugh at em to their face
accidentally ended up in manga serious lol
I think it’s still powerful
Not as much
Girl...
Its on YT too
it’s broken containment
This is not Parent Trap bruh tf
I guess if you look at it from a certain way , but it also accentuates what dragon is doing as well
Btw thats because Buggy, who is in this server, posted it
if it was an exploding collar surely it would've blown off already. and even when rayleigh broke camie's collar it still exploded which didnt happen here
@hazy turret forgot to tag
this was odas way of discrediting FT as a conq candidate. he will do anything tha'ts needed to make sure no fishmen gets it in their whole existence
If they don't take that Disney ass plot on somewhere
checks out
Shallow sea contract must be how he swam so well with one arm
Hm good point
it’d be so funny if this was the only benefit you got from it
you can swim better in shallow water
I can't react to this. You got me blocked bitch?
Isnt the main arguement for twin swap being the swords are on the wrong side
Its probably just a basic chain & collar, no need for something special when they barely/dont feed them anyway so its not like they'll really have the energy to do anything against you
Grasping at straws
Other than like Boa etc, they probably got sea stone on
always hilarious when someone finds it
they're twins??
Something something, Shanks always has is sword on the left during Roger's time and now always has it on the right
Its always the mfs I never interacted with who does it too. I don't think I've ever had a conversation with this nigga he just blocked me off vibes alone
It was unnecessary. We already know the immense power that dragon is going against, why take away from FT’s story to slightly boost the difficulty of Dragon’s mission. I just don’t see a meaningful reason for doing this besides trying to signal to us that shanks is on an undercover mission in the holy land. Which could have been done without involving him in this
this panel should've already debunked it all
New figures came in and they KICK ASS
imagine blocking someone on a op discord server xd
I HATE HIM AND HIS STUPID BITCH PEN WITH ITS STUPID FEATHER
Though shamrock is the same as his past
Bruh
i blcok people
Leave Royder alone
dont be mean to royder
Lemme find out I bothered you that much
Is shanks left handed? If so it kinda sucks for him he lost that hand
Garling had the same rank as Shamrock currently does by the way
He is yes
We’ve known for a while, since he’s sword was on the right side
So he’s a lefty
Maybe he isn't as trash as his pappy
get a shanks figure next to get a whole BB current/future victims lineup going
For someone who has maybe 100 panels in total, I’m getting shanks fatigue quite frankly!
WHY

ive had the opposite happen to me, im super invested in shanks now
@ornate tartan
give me MORE shanks content oda
Of course a kid fan would be getting shanks fatigue
Funny you mention this cuz this is my other figure
definitely not, given the exposure they've given him lately and the talks of his introduction being very important and not to be understood before the one piece is found
I WANT MORE SHANKS
I mean
100 more panels
well i was looking at him and i tohught to myself "why is his pen so fancy" and then i decided he should probably die
its a sign of weakness. never let ppl online get to you like that. stay strong
id like more shamrock than shanks but ill take what i can get
probaboly true
ahahahahah perfect
If it was Kid related I would’ve said this a couple years ago
Lemme find out that the family that inspired Joyboy and Davy Jones 800 years ago were the Figarlands
Time is a flat cirlce
Not everyone writes things worth reading
Shanks and Shamrocks mother will probably be the key to their importance overall
davy and joyboy were twins with red hair
Something something always been the same
Yea I sometimes forget that we never saw her face like at all even now
Romulus and Remus vibes
not a name either
always scroll past
I thought it may be because she wasn't important but idk now
the most curious exclusion from the flashback to me
I forogot about this
Now I’m curious, did Blackbeard scar Shanks will he was on a holy land mission?
True I've been calling her Lady Akagami
Did shanks create his crew before becoming a holy knight
davy is definitely a remus kinda guy
That's a good question
he at least met Yasopp before
He recruited Yasopp in chapter zero I think before getting scarred
probably found Lucky ben and yasop befeore
Where did his straw hat even go
blocking does the same thing. I'm not worried about being a cool guy who doesn't block people i just don't want to see that garbage.
oda is gonna have to make up some bs story to cover up those errors
good question lol
Crazy theory but bear with me: shanks kept that white undershirt from the gods blade days
he was hiding it
I think he found his crew afterwards
But what if he learned about Yasopp from being a HK and decided to find bro after he left the Holy Lands
this is interesting, was harald ever around shamrock?
SHanks took his strawhat to holyland and Imu saw it and was like HMMMMMMMMM
not that we know
with the crew while he infilitrated Marijoa
Shanks: i hate these guys but man... this shirt be kinda drippy
They probably all swarmed to him and bowed down, swearing fealty to the protector of the world
Did we ever learn how Shanks knew Yasopp and why he wanted to recruit him first or is that another mystery
yeah this is mysterious
Once here
i think Shanks had heard of his reputation
but hes saying when he first met shamrock, he thought he had seen him before
I don’t know. I couldn’t figure it out either
as a legendary sniper or something
Im trying to figure out how he would know them or recognize them
We’re cutting thru time pretty fast so this is probably assuming he’s already been formally introduced to shamrock as well, it’s interesting tho this implies Roger ran into Harald in his travels , maybe in elbaf who knows
And this sword…
roger?
Did he just hear it around?
HOLY SHIT HE"S SWAG
Maybe
from what i remember
Wait, has Harald ever met Roger
Im assuming hes talking about shanks because of the fisher tiger incident maybe harald was around or something
We dont know
but then how would shamrock have ever been around harald before they met
Not impossible
How else would Harald recognize shanks from somewhere? Probably recognized as a little guy in Roger’s crew but since he got the bandage and is older he can’t place his finger on it
i think Harald has met Shanks when he was with Roger's crew and they assumedly visited Elbaph
i feel like gaban wouldnt have said this if they met harald before
It's so dope we're learning so much more about how the CDs operate
And Im sure this is what Shanks was going to ask Harald about
Yea maybe he saw him free Fisher Tiger?? Idk.
well regardless I think how he would know shanks is a little easier to figure out. I dont see how hed have met shamrock though
@runic dock I just felt like drawing Shanks swimming terribly after the convo earlier
What in particular
ive wanted to see more into the daily life of CDs in mariejois for so long
im glad we finally got a bit more
Why is he so caked up
Why he said what he said in mariejoa
hes juicy
because it looks silly
Probably Garling introduced him in holy land before this scene at some earlier point
LMFAOOO
peak
But hes saying he thought he had seen shamrock before he met him. So even when he first formally met shamrock, he felt he had seen shamrock before
i assume shanks wanted to warn harald about the mark
or give a heads up on what it might mean
Shanks probably wanted to tell Harald not to join the WG etc
maybe the twins share the same strong haki
OHHHH I see what you’re saying , it’s because they’re twins lmao
i cant imagine when harald wouldve met shanks
He’s said the same thing to shamrock because he still recognizes that face from even earlier
huh
sometime when he was with Rogers crew on Elbaph
i think it's safe to assume that Roger did visit Elbaph
If he’s seen young shanks as a kid in Roger’s crew , whenever he’d meet shamrock , he would tell shamrock that too “you’re familiar “
but i dont think gaban wouldve said something like this if they already met him
Or Shamrock
I see what you were saying tho
also is this shanks talking about himself?
yeah
Did Shanks come to Elbaf before he went to Mariejois?
Yep lol
sure that could be it
Shanks looks like Joyboy
Harald looking at Shanks & Shamrock & wondering where he's seen their face from before when Garling is right there is kinda hilarious
Imagine



