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"Blackbeard just scarred me physically and mentally, I better run home to get some formal training or I'm fucking cooked"
LMAO true
God knights downscale
Now that theyre mentioned again there’s a chance to re explore them in the future!
so many shanks haters are coming around
all shanks chapters are a 10/10
He's good.... we knew what was coming
i'm still not sure what he means by this. he was never at god valley or anything, and there's no mystery that Shanks is a Figarling since they outright state it there in the panels.
Props to oda i thought he was gonna bitch out and actually explain the florian triangle monsters
I'm ngl, if I was a celestial dragon and some bum ass red dirty fishman just freed my slaves.... the next day, whatever slaves I got remaining, they'd get a whoopin!! I'm kinda like Shanks if you think about it... Akagami! 💪
Shanks cut his collar too
It’s literally just this, it doesn’t remove anything else Fisher Tiger did
i lied 1055 was mid
Probably Roger stuff
Maybe he seen him on rogers crew (i guess)
I kinda want him to but I also dont think he will
We’ll find out next chapter
LMAOO ICON CUT IT OUT
listen here you little shit
True
Either way
Tiger was simply...not restrained
Unless it's somehow Imu or some bullshit it'll probably stay a mystery for the sake of being a mystery
Lemme ask this again.
Would you rather he explain them or leave it a mystery
i'll take the Florian explanation if it means making that Fisher Tiger page disappear
it made it even more impressive, imo
just unnecessary, you couldve made it so that he defeated a HK and escaped or something.
idk it just didnt need to be tampered with in the first place regardless of it being shanks or not
Shamrock and Shanks give off the same vibe i guess
he is going to explain the florian triangle monster, this is just a little reminder that he hasnt forgotten
If oda actually explains the monsters from tbe end of thriller bark he loses 5 marks
you don’t want him to explain them?
So you want them to remain a mystery
Indeed
i'm actually a fan of "leaving mysteries for the reader to enjoy" like not explaining how Fisher Tiger did what he did. However, I have always been intrigued by the Florian Triangle entities.
Like how goatsopp mentioned enel earlier this arc
even if it's plot relevant?
No i think they're cooler being an unexplained mystery
Cunk. I 100% agree with you.
I want the FT monsters to stay a mystery.
Yeah, but if you make him defeat a HK, it just looks stupid in retrospect that he was ultimately taken down by a vice admiral.
Well yeah making Fisher Tiger that strong would be cooler but Oda is a coward
For everyone who wondered how Fisher Tiger managed to accomplish what he did, we have an answer now.
The series is called Reveal Piece mate
But yea i think moria used his kozuki swagger to talk to the giants and they made him thriller bark

harald might have meet someonen related to their mother
every misterious rock will be explained and you will love it
The Florian Triangle monsters crawled from the bowels of Hell™ left behind from God Valley collpasing in on itself.
Some people couldn't believe that Fisher Tiger could lead a one man escape
Or he used oars body and made it
Kill me.
That would honestly be pretty cool
Oda would probably make a piece of God valley rock be witness to all of one piece history
did you forget the showcase the HK had on god valley? and FT's death was because he was lured and caught off guard there
Even if it's plot relevant
Somehow they were trapped under godvalley and that shit breaking freed them
Damn double and triple down
Also that kid is still suspiciously gecko moria looking
I respect it
we all just thought he was HIM tbh
So how did Moria make his ship, Oda? God Valley sure as hell ain't it.
oda doesnt let fishmen have SHIT
he still was
Oda is racist.
Oda hates fishmen
Like theres no way he isnt
Hes racist
#also-manga doesn't question it but the meme brained Agenda pilled mfs in #manga ask thay question whenever his name gets mentioned
its really comical
… the HK’s showcase of losing to Rayleigh and Xebec?
Well the HK's showcase in god valley was doing nothing
The ship not being GV now has got me questioning even more where tf he got the bodies of the Rocks members from since the idea was they just died on GV & was easy to find
Not a damn ting
Shanks being odas self insert was on full display when he was talking to harald
The flashback could end next chapter, though I can see Oda pushing it to a third.
Like 3 of them try to do something'
With all due respect. It never made sense how figher tiger achieved such a big feat. Oda should've made him much stronger and gave him a much higher bounty
Otherwise this is now logical
the other 4 just go and kills slaves or some shit
I'm ngl, if I was a celestial dragon and some bum ass red dirty fishman just freed my slaves.... the next day, whatever slaves I got remaining, they'd get a whoopin!! I'm kinda like Shanks if you think about it... Akagami! 💪
Yeah. I guess they all escaped? And he found them later? The GV theory was so good too...
What are the Fisher Tiger Monsters and when did the Florean Triangle die?
Yea I'm glad Oda added this because now it makes sense
I just dont see the issue at all, Shanks seems to have played a very small part in it
Shandora
Shangara
What the fuck man
Shanks helping fisher free the slaves is cool, the idea of fisher doing it single handedly seemed more and make ridiculous the more strong cds he showed
What are you on
Was this a funny copypasta i made?
The showcase where they hunted ordinary guys for sport? Fisher Tiger is just a guy. I don’t even recall them ever showing him using haki. Regardless, if they gave him the feat of being able to tackle a God’s Knight, then even if you reiterate that it was an ambush, him being taken down by a Vice Admiral would still be jarring and foolish.
Uhhh
I mean, I always assumed he was out there like Snake from MGS in that mission
2-3 chapters MAX
a little too comfortable talking like this, must run in the blood huh
You really didn’t have to say this dude
no roleplaying allowed!!!
Shanks on that Daniel Radcliffe type timing.
holy mother of peak this gotta be the peakest chapter that ever peaked
Yeah they presumably all made it off, just kinda crazy how he managed to find 4? Iirc Rocks Pirates members bodies
BTW, this guy is worse than Imu.
You forgot how Fisher Tiger actually died
Someone give that man an oscar
I'm not worthy of reading this peakness
Pretty much how I feel about it. The additional stuff given here perhaps doesn’t align perfectly with the stuff we learned about this incident in the past, but otherwise there’s no gap in logic or discernible flaw
It rolled off the tongue easy for him
He literally doesn't that's how harold caught on
he died because he refused blood transfusion not because of a vice admiral
Is this a female giant in the marines?
Yes
More fuel for the Evil Shanks theory.
no
chapter 1167 was the true thanksgiving dinner all along
we didnt
harald was suspicious because he thinks hes seen him somewhere
we’re so back spice
We already knew there were female giants in the marines
No wonder Shanks wanted to meet Harald in Elbaf so badly he wanted to apologize lol
Well hold on we saw a female giant
Panel????
Did we not
He was taken down by a rear admiral
Oda dropped so many W chars in this arc
Xebec
Loki
Harald
Shamrock
Gunko(soon ibet)
🗣️🗣️🗣️
A rank below
From marineford
I wonder if Loki fought one of them while on his voyage
IDAAAAAAAAAAA
Harold sensed his chill vibes
Yes one of the giant corps is a woman
He ain't looking at shamrock like that
what did you think of the chapter Harsh
law/corazon type shit
regardless, he died because he couldnt get over his resentment toward humans
🗣️
HA! You bum! Thats not the same giant!
Foreshadowing
Wyper even show the tattoo
yea, I guess he wanted to clarify why he was acting that way. Harald died thinking Shanks was racist though 
He could've lived yeah
I didn't say they were did i
LMAOOOO
pretty great, love how as questions are being answered, more questions are being created
what the fuck does the second one have going on
She's the third leftmost giant
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
that's the same exact hair
liked the shanks focus in this chapter because he's so clearly playing
“we got along alright”
He really got ambushed. He may've been capable of beating Strawberry if that hadn't happened
His name is Buggsopp
Making a character possess strength to duke it out with a Holy Knight and win, then run off on his own into the night, when his ultimate fate is being too slow to dodge gunfire, and too weak to endure the wounds? That would be silly and inconsistent.
Buggy doing the Nika dance.
I BETTER NOT SEE ANY OF YALL SHANKS HATERS JUMPING ON THE BANDWAGON NOW OR WE THROWING HANDS
Which one's the lady?
TELL EM
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA @alpine trench
Shanks is literally the one who showed harold the true nature of the wg dipshit
you ok meek?
Arsal mute meek
On the right panel, she's the third leftmost giant
Ill do the opposite. I HATE Shanks now.
She has a spear
what did you know
Considering how shanks is he probably felt horrible lmao.
Oda magic
Oda hyping up Shanks so his deaths hits

? hes still a rat that needs daddy imu powers
Nigga
HE DIDNT DO SHIT THIS CHAPTER
He was a rat!
Oda needs a better naming system.
Yeah, there a larger version of the panel on google but it was blurry I just searched "Jozu throws iceberg"
harald is one of the most fascinatingly frustrating characters of the series on par with oden
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT
if you don't love him at his 🐀 you don't deserve him at this 🐐
He was hot that's all I need
incredible page btw, I like how BM's panel specifically has all that ACoC radiating from her, this is part of Oda's post Onigashima apology to all BM fans
it'll be interesting to see VIZ when it comes to this
this dude was fooled into so much shit
All he did was assist fisher tiger you act like he did some monumental shit
I love him at 🐀 more
He is actually kinda pissing me off in this chapter, he feels so damn clueless
Those are clouds bro
i love big mom but chill man lol
Aye man you like what you like ig
No, as she is dead
could’ve easily call it the abyss…
those are just cloud streaks. we all know big meme cant use acoc
Just finished the chapter , this was absolutely devastating, poor Loki , poor ida , poor Harald , this entire family has been ripped apart from all sides by vultures
Shanks was a rat the whole time but for the power of good
Where does Harald remember Shanks from? Im confused.
tf you mean he's playing the wg like a fiddle
That's why he's the goat
LMAOO😭😭
he’s so well written
Harald is blinded by his desperation to erase the sins of his people's past.
@ashen perch @digital spear @vital heart @stone tulip @olive sigil @hot cairn NIGGAS NEED TO STOP PLAYING WITH ME
Can I get a
#FUCKESTRIDD
shanks is HIM
she can?? she used it against Imu and Page One before it
Why does wang zhi have stitches across his head
Did he do the immortal surgery
TALK YO SHIT!!!!
gulp
Fuck Estrid’s entire family line they’re nothing but scum
HOOO YAAA
it is true tho
Tanked the rat allegations and turned them around
true true
#FUCKESTRID
@vital heart remove your 😂 reaction its 2025
Shanks might be fucking jesus christ incarnate
what bandwagon
so I am thinking all 13 are HKs and the Gorosei have got a different thing going on
She very clearly can , she only used it on page one and in the group attack against imu , she saves using that in situations where children or her children are concerned
Reread one piece

Thanks
i didnt even think of that lmao
What do you mean
Not beating the sea devil allegations plus this explains why Imu wants to drown the world
LOL
yall think joyboy went deeper into the sea than anyone else?
it feels like Shamrock won't be a clear cut badguy
rat allegations confirmed thats crazy
I thought it would be the gorosei have the deep deep sea contract and 8 of the knights have a deep sea contract
Huuuuh... so maybe now we can understand better why Garp wasn't a fan of Shanks when he was in windmill village
I think Davy did
Which is honestly less knights than I was expecting
🐀
the 13 privileged ones that Warcury mentioned
Wait true
Hmmmm interesting
God, he looks like such a tool here.
It was confirmed but in the worst way possible
That's already Garling's role, wouldn't make sense to introduce shamrock just for him to be Garling 2.0
Panderman sighting
He got that shit on though
Garling starts looking better
Do you mean like the gorosei arent part of the 13 chosen
damn it doesnt let me jump to the old message BUT COOK. What did you think of the chapter Sharon?
a rat is a rat
Is what I was asking sorry
Mosahoshi isn’t quite real yet btw , there’s still holes in it that need plugging in , when it makes sense I’ll accept it , until then it’s an interesting ongoing mystery
8 HKs just doesnt make sense to me, if the Zodiac idea is true then its 12 HKs + One Supreme Commander leading them
The chapter is a 10/10, but Shanks is on the shit list.
watch all the people who hated shanks because he was perfect now hate him because he's suddenly not perfect
Mosahoshi confirmed too
how is Shanks on the shit list?
more of a 5/5
yeah I think they are considered beyond that whole system
His middle aged design is a thousand times better than his young man design
Also these two pages is just funny lmao.
I know they say to never judge a book by it's cover but he just looks racist yknow? Like even if I didnt know who he was I feel like I would get that vibe from him
Not really , I wish yall didn’t jump the gun on this , this doesn’t sound like mosa at all yet
Oh fuck me
I mean she doesnt have to cry ALL the time maybe Loki calms her
These niggas was right
I've always known he is an evil rat though
WOMP WOMP
why would it be different?

great chapter
Eheheheh
Respect me now
YC and ME were right
mosa shouldve been eris
Yeah I am still bothered by that fact cause if it weren’t for this I would have believed the theory by now lol
And calling everyone sama , it’s just such a large character shift id need to see that shift play out
Oda's gonna do it. It's confirmed. It's all an act by Shirahoshi.
Mosa was shirahoshi theories can rise up again wooooooooo
LOKI MY BOY
Also, now that we know there are 13 "deep deep contracts" we can guess that they are numbered, and so this numbers of the Gorosei makes more sense
Mosa really was shirahoshi....
HEY DONT FORGET I SAID IT TOO!!!
you cant tell me nothing for years now, this is an unprecedented level of winning
I called loki x shirahoshi way back
me too this seems more likely yeah
Is there are 12 HKs plus 1 commander let's start assigning them their zodiacs
An act?
oh boy
Arsal Avery Thigh Merry and I were right
Everyone ignoring he snatched his Bandage like a boss
Jupiter Number 1 contract confirmed
Interesting, but like, she's 16
Me right now 
arsal was right he will never shut up about it anymore
Shuron you gotta tell us when the video is out before you get muted
is this clickbait chat?
yeah okay sure but I WAS RIGHT I NEED TO SAY IT
They can marry later
I was waiting for your and Socrates' reaction 
I really forgot about the mosa thing lol
and that stops oda how?
Well. I'm not writing the story
The fuck is that imu face
Well yeah I said that
What is that design for Imu
Oda did too until today dw
Explains the bleed but Shanks is goated for opening the armory and even getting rid of the cuff cause how explosive it is
I don’t even care about that part anymore the character shift has to make sense to me
1167 is so peak SIX SEVEN
Mosa won't be Ida sadly anymore because Oda wants you to think she might make it, but she will be dead next chapter.
shanks is wearing so many hats he doesnt know who he is anymore
At this point it’s probably real because I don’t know why else Oda would include this scene in the chapter lol
girl = attracts i think idk
Character development
LOL
rip to ida btw
so is shanks a rat or not
Chill im talking to different people here
Everytime arsals wrong 100 times he gets to cash in to be right once
Character depth actually
well yes
or is he a rat but for the pirates and not the WG..
True, kept Loki in the right path
100%
rocks, loki and ida
the 3 greatest OP characters of all time hands down
Red herrings are a powerful writing tool, and oda did a red herring very recently with Gaban /shiki
Ida the queen
So that’s a reason why
It’s so redundant to bring up Harald meeting Neptune otherwise
the loki part of this chapter was good but yeah, harald parts are so good and doing so much for me
Writing tool
At least Loki wasnt mocking her after she died like I worried about
He did it 67 times
davy jones was the first to get a imu contract maybe?
Sanji and Pudding are a thing plus Kyros and Scarlet, Oda unfortunately don’t give two shits
I knew it wasnt Jarul
HE'S HIM THAT'S ALL THAT MATTERS
It’s not really redundant as that planned marriage can still happen without the talker mosa being shirahoshi
Unfortunately true lol
now we're cooking with butter
He is, but he's Remy
shanks is never beating the gary stu allegations
I doubt he would, I knew deep down he saw her as his real mother
i dont think im ready for shanks being an actual rat
I have actually been right twice already this arc, I was right on Gaban being the silhouette but that was a minor W, this is unprecedented levels of winning, this is like a fringe theory that came true
still a bb victim
I'm so glad we will be exploring shanks character soon 
SHANKS HAS BEEN SCARRED BY TIGER AND BLACKBEARD
i hope we get to see Shanks saying bye to Shamrock and then returning to the lower-world
I feel like that one was vague enough for the overreaching story, this one is closer to a current plot point of an arc
he's playing it up so well in this chapter lmfao
So refreshing to see him not act superior because he has "pure blood" or something, he sees other people as people, not as commoners, that's a true prince right there
You were also wrong about loki being evil and god valley not being shown
So you’re 2/4
The problem is there was a panel where Loki kinda sounded like he was talking about her in past tense so I thought she might have died already but I was proven wrong on that
Gonna be the best section of the story
13 contracts, the Gorosei/Knights are numbered, maybe by strength?
yeah, he definitely helped fisher tiger didnt he
i mean it obvious
HELL NO NOT BY STRENGTH TF?
i refuse to believe ju peter is stronger than gandhi
shanks haters getting desperate
but still
HELL NO NOT BY STRENGTH TF?
Regardless that’s why a red herring here would work even better
it makes me UNEASY
It's gonna be peak fs
But spare the best part for the GOAT BB
Also this too
Oda couldn't let Fisher have his moment, he had to let Shanks aid in it.
shanks is HIM
He did more damage to Emeth 
Nah, since Rocks's flashback didn't come with BB's story it won't be
Shanks is technically the one who allowed Fisher Tiger to have his moment
or her, don't just assume Shank's pronoun fool
My guess for what the contracts give
Tier 1 contract
Abyss travel (can't place the marking themself)
Tier 2 contract
Regen
Abyss Travel (potentially able to place the marking)
Telepathy
Tier 3 contract
Regen
Abyss Travel & can place the marking
Telepathy
Yokai form
Imu can take control
And it’s not proven yet either until we get a character shift explanation
given we know the outcome of what shanks does pre-harald death, his recon mission is very interesting to me
this whole flashback has been such a rewarding feeling
I agree
Oda gonna make Shanks learn about the gum gum fruits true nature at this rate ✌️
I have learned the title of this chapter is about Loki and not Hajrudin
Went from a 12/10 to a 6/10
the Gaban/Shiki stuff wasnt a red herring tho 
I mean you could say he is rat but not for the world government for sure, bro is literally pulling a Vivi Corzan type of move
I’m not really a fan of it either cause the idea of Shirahoshi speaking to Loki since she was 10 or something is weird (but funny).
But at this point lol
It's like subbing to a twitch streamer but instead of wasting money you waste your soul
I am going to be extra annoying about this, but its only the beginning of winning
I said he was evil like a chapter after his introduction man, let it go 😭
where's the IMU possess your body ?
indeed
Her daddy might do the talking
His animals from the movie were there , it was a clear red herring
but for who?
I can’t wait to see how his story ends
The Gandhi glaze needs to stop I hope hes the weakest
U are him spice
Not as right as I am about the Abyss
Hmmm okay now we’re getting somewhere
Oh true, Deep Deep sea probably so tier 3
the baldest are the strongest
no it definitely wasn’t
did socrates comment on the chapter yet
Thank you for actually engaging with what I said
Is that why Habald went bald
Plus Shirashoshi said she never been yelled at by someone before which doesn’t seem like the typical dynamic Loki has with Mosa tbh
If you kill Garling do you get the Deep Deep Deep Sea medal of honor?
eh its equal levels of right smh
Lol. You make it seem like no one does
EVERYONE, BOO THIS BITCH
and WB was the strongest man cuz he was bald too
this could actually just be Harald saying that he knows of Shanks from when Roger visited Elbaph in the past
oh yea also shanks lost his arm to get rid of the mark
you get nothing because the bar is in the deep deep
so... who thinks Blackbeard was at Mary Geoiose the night that shanks freed everyone?
Nobody but himself at this point but he is doing this for sake of Roger
Idk where you get off saying definitely
everyone who even hates shiki agrees his animals were there , you don’t have to agree with it that’s fine but it was a red herring , there’s no harm being done to you or the story by saying that let it go lol
Imu gives you a deep deep deep kiss
fodder hunter garling gets no pass from me
where are the 3 chapters left of flashback truthers at, told u to trust
man what a chapter
why not just cut the skin off?
Notice how he still had more? He had to go blud
LOL for that reason alone? Do you not fw Loki?
Oda skipping Roger's visit to Elbaf again.................. Gaban better be getting a flashback to fix this
people are still denying shirahoshi mosa?
Hold on
it was such a talky talk chapter. much words.
They talk different apparently
roger is getting a flashback before EOS
but I do think it's still her
harald imo is not going to be as beloved to me as oden (partly due to the beginning of this flashback and some issues with emotional investment there) but if his death is as impactful as i'm expecting it to be then we do have such a great oda writing moment again in flashbacks
aura
So fisher tiger climbing redline is not true?
Oh yeah we skipped over Gaban x Ripley ...
I mean yeah? It’s clearly a different character talking , I could believe it’s Neptune talking tho
A little bit of content for everyone, everyone wins
Shirahoshi is Mosa, we ain't got all day for misleads.
Idc about the marriage shit , it just had to make sense
And because of that Shanks is now indirectly the main reason why Jinbe and even Nami became straw hats let alone pirates in the first place
I like Hajrudin more. I was looking forward to this being a chapter about him. But this is great development for Loki
I keep seeing this panel but idk what you really mean
well yeah but I mean relevant to this arc, like Gaban meeting Ripley is something I wanted to see
yeah
Probably next chapter is about him
You racist to Giants or something?
the final page was so good for me
I hope so
Neptune in a dress
huh? how is this different?
the chapter is peak but only thing that is not peak is Oda blitzing through like 23 years so quickly smh
well, I just don’t think it was a red herring tho but yeah let’s just agree to disagree
how does that read me being racist to giants
So now that’s 4 straw hats including Luffy himself
loki just a cutie patotie
mostly because I've always known that Loki would've been like this
i mean shes crying here so theres that
That’s how she talks , she always cries and overreacts and calls everyone sama
its not vindication or anything, its just seeing what you wanted to see
What Earl is talking about is probably easier to see in the original japanese version of the chapter
He's saying Shirahoshi's wimpy personality doesn't match Mosa.
If it's a speech pattern thing
i'm with you, that was very harsh of joshua to call u a racist
Mosa did admit to being scared at first tho
shanks being goated as always
Mosa has never said Loki's name so she wouldnt really have a -sama to add there
there was nothing to be wimpy about over the phone? she was pretty normal when talking to vivi and rebecca
wait. really?
She cries and calls everyone sama and overreacts , I’d love to see the character development on her , but it sounds like it could be Neptune , idc who’s getting arranged marriage , I just need it to make sense
yeah i'm on your side
yeah I think Harald is a very hard character to like. His death is probably going to be great tho
socrates will wank loki to levels never seen before yall aint ready
i like the fact that its barely moving for a giant but its incredibly satisfying to see this span of time in relation to a giant's, with the perspective of beloved events in the series
Yeah. During one of their convos
it is yeah
Shanks is literally the Spongebob meme unironically lmao
he's still crying over the chapter, that's why he's not here
She seems like that too while talking, everyone already called Mosa has a tender personality. Is Loki the only one Mosa doesnt call sama? He can be an exception
what are yall wearing to idas funeral
for sure yea
all blue
A wooly sweater
Why u ignoring my messages bro
I think he did a good job, what more did you want to see besides Roger possibly visiting Elbaph?
I cannot believe there are people who hate Ida
It would mean she’s evolved a lot since last we saw her , she’s not really crying she’s talking perfectly calm despite loki being loud and abrasive
man lmaooo oda couldn't let a mother stay alive that's so funny
i like harald as a character and in the way he's written but i also dont quite feel like a lot of really good flalshback characters, including harald measure up to oden or say corazon, hiriluk, noland and calgara
ngl given that shirahoshi was trapped in her room for a decade and loki was chaimed up for 6 years I kinda see why oda would write them to have friendship like that.They can probably relate to being lonely af
She did evolve since then she left the country and stuff
Im excited for ShiraLoki babies in Two Piece 🥰🥰🥰🥰
for every wooly sweater 1 wooly mammoth is killed, stop wearing sweaters
This means hancock version of the story about climbing red line was false huh?
He didn't go back to free them but did it during his escape
so which of the three Sea marks did Shanks have before the sea king ate it?
in black to show respect☝️
Ive been saying this 
It wasn’t really clear enough during reverie

yeah he doesn’t have that “legendary” vibe but I think it’s because he’s absolutely flawed in a way that Oda hasnt shown with other flashback characters
Maybe I just have some hard time believing that due inconsistency within Shirahoshi but if it’s true then Oda better clarify it in sbs
1 million percent polyester
his death could make him legendary
are fishmen indegenous to fishman island? or are there other small civilizations of fishmen throughout the ocean?
She got attacked multiple times and isnt traumatized I think thats plenty already
not a fan of the ronald mcdonald hair but otherwise good art
id be very upset if cotton was used to create that anyway
She got put in a situation where someone would cry again , right , that’s why it’s not clear
shanks is such a dirty liar. I can't believe ppl like that rat
honestly, i'm really excited to see my opinion change more on harald and how good a character he can truly become further
agreed, can’t wait to see it happen
No limits to the glaze
What is that hair krome 😆
me on Ida's funeral
harald mustve let a secret slip thats why they killed him
More on Saul, like he used to call the Elbaf giants barbarians at one point while he also happened to be an outsider that the people of Elbaf tend to hate. I thought it should have atleast been acknowledged that the change that Harald brought to Elbaf allowed them to accept Saul and allowed Saul to also accept them at the same time. Maybe there's gonna be some Mini-Saul flashback at some point later in the arc but idk.
@sage temple AYE SOCRATES ANOTHER W FOR THE AGENDA
I just dont get how Harald doesnt see how bad he is getting duped
I don’t think Hancock was aware of who Fish Tiger truly is and we already knew in FMI that he was a slave
Maybe he does who knows
a very interesting detail in #ONEPIECE1167 is that shanks wears a closed chest fit symbolising him keeping a secret/ lying.
︀︀meanwhile shamrock who is opening up to his long lost brother wears a open chest fit
︀︀
︀︀but when shanks finally leaves the holy land, he switches to an open chest fit, symbolising him finally being free of the lies.
︀︀similarly, shamrock switches to a closed chest fit symbolising him closing his heart and emotions for his brother
︀︀
︀︀oda using these subtle details will never cease to amaze me 🫡
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Interesting character , very layered
ahh I see fair enough
Read the Mosa lines again you can see it being a timid girl just a bit calmer than Hoshi but talking to Loki would be comfortable to her
and he's doing this for a reason, but right now he just feels really really clueless
Literally funniest moment in the chapter lmao
boy's a dmbass
Ya but most always thought he went back later but we now know it's not the truth
mom death count: 2
eris pending
stick to baki man
Honestly it's a big revelation
Hold on this is actually good
lmao
The gorosei room is huge that Harald can stand in it
We’re gonna see a crazy fight in that room
would the 13 number include the elders and holy knights? I'd assume not
yeah, i like the implication it could have
look the moms may have died but the culmination of this flashback is the big death of the father
The Figarland family drama is gonna hit like cracks when Shanks betrays them by stealing the Nika fruit
Another question I have is who put the snail near loki while he was chained up? If you say shanks how would shanks have known about any of the shirahoshi stuff?
he’s so well written
Oda is ruthless to parents, its not a mom specific thing
man this arc is so good ngl
this might be over analysis but oda is kinda the goat
mosa is shirahosi and shanks is HIM
i am expecting to see Shamrock sad and Garling furious
Excuse me, 1 slave please.
Not quite but we’ll see
i love the fact that ida being on her deathbed prompts loki to finally accept her as his mother in the most dramatic manner possible
Can't wait for the castle incident
I can already sense it
ITS GONNA BE SO PEAKKKKK 🗣️🗣️🗣️
what does shallow sea contract mean
Extremely peak
God blade , intern level
the gorosei deadass reset to their default positions
there's some mom or dad or adjacent figure dying every flashback, its just how it be
Shanks: GRAHH, I'm so angry at whoever set those slaves free in our Marijoa!! Shamrock, I need to know more about the holy land!!
Shamrock: yes my brother shanks
Harald: 
mars never had a chair for himself
Wait. Someone made a good point: BB might've scarred Shanks while also telling him important info which led him to seek out his family.
yah given how harsh loki is to ida and everyone else, i really love him showing his vulnerability
Yeah I guess that wasn’t the case
Do you think Harald had to crawl to fit into the room of authority
Mars was sent back earlier, he just sat down while the rest of the Gorosei were still in Egghead
Thats why i believe he’s a traitor
bb bullied shanks so bad he went crying to his daddy 💔
Bro can never sit down
marijoa doors prolly big asf
does the deep sea stuff infer anything about Imu's powers, its surely a DF right
its like how malls get the cars inside them
@fallen meteor I’m going to need your help for this one lad
I’m so hyped for it man
“Shouldnt you be in the holy lands zehaha”
I don't think he'd of all ppl mind
Natural BB upscale
I dont remember how they do that
“The holy lands? Wheres that”
“Its right up above us”
I am pretty sure Marie Geoise is called the biggest nation in the world so I am sure they could fit in Harald
i hope imu doesn't have a df, but rather she's the devil herself or a fruit
they took him apart and assembled inside
can't believe oda also explained the floriam monsters this chapter is crazy packed
I'm sure I won't be reading spoilers for that chapter 😂
Yeah that doesnt mean the buildings are suited for a guy his size
Yeah but is Pangaea even that big of a castle my guy?
ain't there no CCTV in marijoa cuz sheesh
they might have just abyssed him in LOL
Explained??
it is
Now you’re baiting for sure
It's pretty big
!goda
well he didn’t but he allued to them
The king
don't jinx it
Yeah the Garling reaction would be recontextualize his introduction
definitely
If he had regen they could have actually done this
just the throne room easily fit in all the Gorosei and Imu in their full glory, its massive
Meanwhile Harald
Garling is just mad that his son clears him
Size doesn't matter in One Piece.
Garling casually introducing shanks to harald was so funny 😭
oh and it still had plenty of room after it
I'M TEARING UP, POOR LOKI 😭
Also someone from Twitter just pointed out that Shamrock has gryphon?
Pangaea Castle is probably the biggest building in the entire series
Size matters a bit
Idk Onigashima castle might be larger
HOLY SHIT. ITS CERBERUS AND GRYPHON
Idk I’d have to reread parts of alabasta
ITS CERBERUS AND GRYPHON
And thriller bark
I still can't believe he got immediately suspicious of shanks but not of We Want To Fucking Kill You®, private company
what no
It is a huge building though
Shanks has Gryphon and Shamrock has Cerberus
eh
https://x.com/t9lm_/status/1994395116669407655?s=46
@muted hedge
Shanks doesnt like dogs so he did a tradesie
Let me check
"Ugh, i just hate those lowlife scum on the surface (im 6'4 and read celestial literature btw)"
that's amazing
this fucking flashback man, it's fucking delivered!!!!!!!!
This was such a good chapter
AI art?
Or nah
Also sorry fisher tiger kinda lost some power here
But we got the man with the eye patch.....
how?
Because shanks helped his ass
probably, sham's hand is all weird
fantastic I would say
That looks AI
When before he was single hardly doing it
It’s a coloring of the panel in the chapter meek
banana pro art
its still ai
tbf his hand is weird in the chapter too
Look at the mf hands.
Why his mouth closed
Honestly this flashback has had some of my favorites in the series
It could be ai
Nah that’s the exact same as in the manga , oda has weird hands sometimes
So good
Oh no
Yellow hue on everything its obvious
It’s not AI
Wait
HOLY FUCKING SHIt
it always seemed obvious Fisher Tiger had help from within once the Holy Knights were debuted
no its not
Fantastic no your right!
in the manga it makes sense
Oda using AI
WHAT THE HELLLL
thats a normal hand
He’s extending his hands in perspective
But we also know gods knights do not have to be blood
the strokes are mostly correct but they miss the straight lines way too much, AI
Look at Shamrock's GIGANTIC hands
are you guys stupid?
Yeah Harald immediately clocked in lmao
That’s ok
he has big hands
Okay it looks less weird now
Gunko may not be a CD
I mean it’s the same shape , but the hand is kinda big for oda hand , but he usually draws big hands
Holy fuck Shamrock's hands are fucked up bro
the hand looks fine here
???????/
I believe this is perspective
Do you guys not see it?
Meek he’s putting his hand forward in perspective
Shamrock's hands are ginormous bro
Meek
he just has big hands, it's nothing wrong lol
Oda doesn't draw good hands lol
Projection?
Look at your hand
Bruh
Perspective yeah
Meek
NO BREAK NEXT WEEK

😩
I am skipping the next 5 conversations in this channel. BRB.
it's not a coloring, it's a full-fledged painting that if done by a person would've taken a good minute. depends on when the person got hold of the panel.
Meek I am gonna need you to look at your hand, put it in the same position
I think it'd be funnier if Fisher tiger had no help
Meek extend your hand forward in a selfie pic and watch what happens?
Okay that art is definitely ai
guys how many chapters left of the flashback you think
yup looks the same guys
Ii can't wait but damn has it been four chapters in a row!?!?
2
SHANKS IS HIM
oh yea that fanart is likely AI enhanced
JORDAN NEVER DID DAT MOOOOOOOOOVEEE
with 1167 is 2 in a row, next one 3
OP has a lot of weird shit just because. Having fisher tiger somehow pull this on hos own doesn't seem that wild to me
@vital heart Thank you for your work
678 987
that’ll mean it ends before the year is over
I don’t see it
This is just perspective calm down
big ass hands
never forget what they took from you!!!!!!!
It’s good to not trace so you can practice and hone your own skills without needing to rely on the previous work
starts next week
guys do you think 1169 will be better than 1167
towards the middle or end of chapter
It looks like they have Shanks an eyepatch in that fanart maybe it's just shading but idk it's weird
im not taking the ragebait buddy, try someone else
it's looking more and more likely that Shamrock was the one who scarred Whitebeard
Bro got a fin
Yeah but who expected it that it would’ve been Shanks of all people ?
Like now I need Jinbe and Nami find out about his involvement with the whole situation cause how both of them were affected by it.
It’s good honest advice
67 actually delivered
earl just bobbing the bait up and down a little to see if any fish go eat it
lucky number 67
you an artist earl? you do a little bit of art?
SHANKS IS THE EYEPATCH KID
This is awful
sigh
who is harald thinking of when he saw shanks??
would
Funny ass phrasing
I dabbled when I was 4 they told me I was a prodigy but I had to put down the pen to serve a higher calling
Giant shanks
I wouldn't have, but the "Shanks is evil" agenda people are absolutely BLOWN THE FUCK OUT. And I say that's the best thing to come of this chapter!
both their faces look very modified, Shanks is wearing an eyepatch for some reason and its not the bandages he is wearing in the manga
The most art I've done recently is snoopy drawings for this girl I like so I'm not super knowledgeable about art but that looked ai
To me
Ew ai
I see that now lol
holy down bad simping
Probably shanks as a younger kid? I'm guessing he ran into Roger maybe onece or twice shit maybe Roger out Harold on his ass once
AI this AI that you wont even be able to tell in 3 years
in the pro world we cheat all the time. deadlines will do that to you.
Earl I haven’t had diner yet. Your name is stressing me
😴
They should have been backed the fuck off after film red came out, considering Oda said to use that as a way to judge if shanks was good or evil
Avery was in that sauce
Ohhhhhh my god bruh
Isn't Gabben living on elbaf already
down horrendous
Have a Falafel
Or no
years? bro we have 3 months left
some people are beyond help
SIX SEVEN
I want to but I’m at the mechanic
chapter 1167
I have seen some of those AI generated leaks and it is looking bleak yeah but still
yeah unfortunately
wonder what next chapter will be about
ai art is looking kinda good
He might have met younger Shanks during Roger pirates were still around
I had shanks with the eye patch spoileed for me 😭
3 months? bro the bubble is bursting in two weeks setting all of the internet back to the space age 🙏
ai generated chapter hints soon
buffy on the opposite side of the bell curve coming up with some wisdom for those fools
Shame on you rokaya
these are nerds on the internet doing that btw
there was no shanks with eyepatch
Gabens on elbaf tho right ?
nobody is talking about the implications of Shirahoshi being Mosa… what if Loki and Shirahoshi are the two Sovereigns that have to meet? Who is attacking FMI?
Yes there was
We already have ai generated chapter bis why not ai generated hints
@ashen perch @digital spear
Worstgen already did this lol
Well they could be the two sovereigns
Let’s not bring that up
I think Blackbeard might be the one attacking
I think it’s pretty clear he isn’t evil and not siding with WG cause this is definitely Corazon and Vivi situation here, plus I think he cut his ties off after the Nika incident so no way in hell he is still “working” for them.
ledon should adapt it, instead of his gifs
bandage is not an eyepatch
the mosa thing? Lol
Yeah
You should still try to avoid it while learning. But once a paycheck is on the line and someone else can take your job who is faster, shit gets real, real fast.
would be funny
If it turns out it’s true I’ll be banned 3 weeks
He probably met shanks or seen him visiting Gabben or with himat one point maybe
let's bring up how shanks is HIM
Well I talked about it in spoilers already smh, but yes. They'll be the two sovereigns, BBP are attacking FMI and all my predictions are going to be right
it feels obvious that Shirahoshi is Mosa
YUPPPP
I think it was during the time Shanks was still an apprentice
Oda's not trying to hide the Shirahoshi thing. Count it as a reveal.
3 weeks without cow piece 
Let’s not say the S word. You would have so much to talk about if you didn’t spend your time in that wretched place
Oda still leaving us in the dark about Shanks' scar/confrontation with Teach though
Unfortunately it’s going to be 3 weeks without me, meek and Sharon
You usually have bandages before you put an eye patch on
maybe in the next chapter we'll see how Shanks was scarred by Blackbeard and how Shamrock scarred Whitebeard
BB carved up Shanks while lore dropping on him
Still not so sure due to that moment but if Mosa is Shirahoshi then Oda needs to clarify this on an sbs or something
Regardless this could have been what oda was referring to and I'm almost positive
Oda still leaving us in the dark about shanks scar/confrontation with teach though
All the pieces are falling in place for Hachinosu War, and for Fishman Island to be linked to Elbaf, and BBP attacking multiple places at once like I have been saying. Unprecedented levels of winning
she could have grown i guess
Oh man I gotta go e propps tot he shirhoshi mosa believers
One piece chapter 1168: scar
Compilation of every scar ever
We are fucked.
yo sanjuan 
Idk
two blessings
Why don't we post the actual Viz dialogue of Mosa and Loki talking to better get a sense?
you didn’t say that the BBP were going to attack FMI
I won’t tell the results yet
All 3 of us are fucked.
I did
WHAAAAAT
lmoa
Bro just wanted to get muted for the fun of it

another day in the office

seriously tho, i think it would be possible to get
Shuron had the best chance and one of those characters was for sure never gonna be Mosa
could Mosa also be Neptune by chance?
This is a cooked lineup
possibly
Imagine all of this ends up leading to grand fleet incident somehow, assuming if Shirahoshi is Mosa and Loki joins the fleet
I don’t remember that
but it's way more funny if Mosa is Shirahoshi
Nah it’s bit timid
that is part of my idea yeah
I just want arsal to be wrong idc who's right
the speech pattern Mosa uses right?
Loki was the goat at the end of this tho
he’s saving that for the BB/Shanks flashback
Well from what I heard it’s soft spoken
so uh will i be muting you guys now or tomorrow or what
smh
How old is Neptune anyways
I haven’t decide yet if he gets the mvp
Also skipped right over buggy joining Rogers wtf
the last few pages of this chapter made me cry for the first time ever reading
Shanks saving fisher is pretty big deal

My theory of contract being the Achilles Heels bears more weight 
it has to be Shamrock
Viz.
🍅
Also depowes fisher a lil bit because he was doing it by him self
since no one won, wouldnt that mean no one lost either
yeah it has to be
Or did he get beat by fisher
its still just Garling
if shanks got a deep sea contract he mightve been cooked
No
okok I see
Why you throw a tomato at me ! Lol wait is it a devil fruit 😛
Nah WB is too stupid to put that together
I did agree that it’s more likely that BB attacks FMI instead of Wano
Everyone loses so everyone gets the punishment
i'm throwing it at Oda
deep sea contract turns you into a mass of abyss 🗣️
I thought he told him the armory was open or something
nah I think he just knew, like a lot of things that WB just knows
if everyone is a loser then no one is
i really don't think it's Garling anymore
feels a lot more likely that it'd be Shamrock
Okay syndrome, but the bet being voided becayse everyone lose is lame
Shanks helped Fisher out Í doubt fisher attacked him
oda was wrong
Nah , the wg couldn’t figure out blackbeard was related to rocks despite looking like him in the face
fisher tiger aura loss is a sacrifice I'm willing to make
People in op can’t read faces
SHANKS > LUFFY IN TERMS OF MC ENERGY
yeah I am not saying he figured out anything, just that he knew
Yeah but at one time we had though fisher tiger did this single hardly that's all
he escaped by himself btw
sigh
when my headcanon doesn't happen
aura is zero sum
From Roger?
so the Sea Contract means you're a member of the Holy Knight order, the Deep Sea makes you an undying Holy Knight, and the Deep Deep a Gorosei?
for me the easy answer is Shanks
helped FT and fooled all the HKs
but you could do Harald or even Loki too

yeah
shanks is simply HIM
Davey D. Xebec beats em tho tho 😭😭😭 my dead goat
Davy
Shallow is god blades like interns , deep sea is holy knights , deep deep sea is probably gorosei
8+5 is 13
yup
something something Rabbit and Watch, the pieces are falling in place one by one for Hachinosu War like I have been telling you
This makes a lot more sense tbh invading and breaking people free from there should be almost impossible
Fisher is still just as based for doing it
No one tops Luffy
makes sense to me
no way you think oda is a reliable source
Soni feel like sea devil has been reopened for Imu now
no, I get all my one piece source from chatgpt

Na single handle has us thinking his power level could be very high without proof tho that's all
I really think the Gorosei transcend the system itself, they have a closer dynamic to Imu and arent part of the 13 at all
Yeah there’s a lot of terminology related to the sea , deep sea , abyss , there’s also the legend of Davy jones being locked in the bottom of the sea
still not convinced, I think I’ll go down with the ship of “Hachinosu war” not happening
Lots of things connecting
who even are the guys in vc
Í think Gunko might have the deep deep? Since she’s Imus blade, so Gods blade, while Sommers is a Gods knight and Harald is a goods heel or whatever they said
give it some more time, you will be convinced
manga 1
Fisher doesn’t get a shoutout?
we’ll see
Seen a few of them in manga 1
I mean wtf could Imu be Davy even? He has a " locker" and didn't we also see Davey Jones locker or something and it was empty ?
ohh
i mean he appeared but he isnt getting MVP
I think bb gets fmi not wano
Between Loki and Harald?
As much as i want it to happen, true
Bb invading and capturing Wano would be really cool
probably Loki, Harald was doing evil shit but Loki had the mom moment + killed the evil people
but thats me
Crossguild meets up with gecko moria at wano for pluton
Blackbeard kidnaps shirahoshi
It’d be great to see Yamato n Momo n the scabbards fighting the Bbps
I have a feeling BB will kdinape shirhoshi
Cause like What’s the point of Yamato staying behind and all that talk of securing the borders of wano if bb just up and takes it? Fmi is RIGHT THERE
And Loki will be like na
so l*ki more likely than not is gonna be present when luffy "destroys" fmi
the Davy clan promised to take the throne back
Even currently before Garling's transition to Gorosei, we had Garling, Shamrock, Gunko, Sommers and Qilingham existing at the same time, thats 5 HKs. Maffey, Yeti guy, Cow Mask guy, Goth HK, Other Manmeyer's present day status is unknown but I am willing to bet that they were not introduced to have been removed offscreen years ago and that they are still working to this day. Thats 10. Add 2 for the Shoujo Prince guy and Gas Mask guy and thats 12 and that makes more sense, 13th still unknown.
said this in the spoilers channel already, but 8 HKs is not going to be a thing, all 13 are HKs.
Also i believe yamato will temporarily join laws crew and set sail
I’ll go Loki then. Sorry can’t give it to shanks
why?
The point of Yamato staying behind to secure the border is so you can have Bb vs Yamato over Wano
Don’t want to 
🧐 it seems shanks never made deep sea contract. He didn't become a gods knight but gods blade
fair lol
Maybe he was only half, maybe he was sperated and lost maybe he only took over Davey Jones body
He would have been 4th in my opinion
People think that ends in bb just winning wano that way, which kills the point of Yamato staying behind
Becoming a beat stick for bb sucks
Shanks was really an OP the entire time? No man no this can’t be right

