also-manga

[urban lodge]

Oh yeah that's also super likely

[hallow herald]

and everything else is a hint that its Shanks

[dapper tree]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-screaming-then-running-away-spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-spongebob-meme-running-gif-14848209682511966800

[hot cairn]

@sage temple what do you think of Loki joining the crew?

[steel stirrup]

He doesn't believe in it

[dapper tree]

I will start soon, I swear, lmao

[final trench]

I mean i dont think its gonna happen, but immunity is crazy

[dapper tree]

I have it pulled up on my phone

[urban lodge]

Curses can't stack

[final trench]

Only luffy and usopp are immune

[alpine trench]

you had to ping bro

[hearty shore]

Dude domi reversi loki would destroy half of elbaf due to his sheer size being flipped into the ground

[ornate tartan]

and brook
his ass already dead😂😂😂

[steel stirrup]

LMAOO

[final trench]

True

“My body cant be cursed because i dont have one yohohohoho”

[dapper tree]

If I recall correctly socrates doesn't have strong feelings for loki joining or not

[ornate tartan]

i love brook man😭😭

[hot cairn]

because I’ve been paying lots of attention to that plot line specifically. I’m trying to cook up a theory with it. The TLDR is basically Loki’s fruit is need to control, command or lead the Galleila giants.

His hammer, Ragnir, is also important too. He’ll leave Elbaph by the end to look for them I feel or save Mosa first and then the giants.

[carmine schooner]

Ong

[graceful belfry]

I feel like he’d want Loki to join Blackbeard

[steel stirrup]

[pine ridge]

he thinks loki was cursed from birth and has a devil fruit. so we know it's not true

[tranquil blade]

ts not a video game 💔

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/holes-grandpa-thats-too-damn-bad-gif-15698581

[hot cairn]

but she said she’s glad he had a friend

[final trench]

Nah loki gonna glaze blackbeard

Trust

[muted hedge]

for what?

[hearty shore]

How would loki know BB is rocks' son

[steel stirrup]

Loki aint joining BB he's being set up as a good guy

[dapper tree]

feeding his delusions. Look man, I can keep making up reasons all day. Just go with the first option I said, lmao

[final trench]

He can just look at his face

[steel stirrup]

All he gotta do is LOOK

[urban lodge]

He only thinks in Loki upscale and he thinks it makes Loki more impressive if he's actually cursed

[hot cairn]

LOL fine

[muted hedge]

i'm not against the idea of Loki joining Blackbeard, i just don't see what would make him admire Blackbeard

[steel stirrup]

Blackbeard looks like Xebec spat him out bruh all Loki gotta do is take a damn gander

[muted hedge]

Blackbeard is pretty different from Xebec at the end of the day

[dapper tree]

Never abandon ship, remember

[hallow herald]

so is BB btw

[steel stirrup]

LMAOOOO

[hearty shore]

The blindfold in question:

[carmine schooner]

Bb is not being set up as good guy 😭😭😭

[hot cairn]

I didn’t, I’m abandoning YOU

[steel stirrup]

If this were true he would be bleached by now

[hallow herald]

i see some of us have not read the Jaya arc

[dapper tree]

I went down with my law dies in wano ship and kept it until the very last chapter of wano

Cause I said there was a chance

He could just die

[hallow herald]

he would be WHAT

[urban lodge]

Volume 105 cover...

[steel stirrup]

Bleached

Whitewashed

[hot cairn]

that would’ve been peak

[steel stirrup]

Usopp treatment

[steel stirrup]

Ik you not trying to fight for this theory do my eyes deceive me

[hot cairn]

saying BB is being set up as a good guy is cray cray

[hallow herald]

guys what do Cricket, Franky, and Bellamy all have in common

[steel stirrup]

They only wear jackets and not shirts?

[stone tulip]

Meanwhile I am like number 1 believer in that theory cause it’s most logical direction right now plus I don’t see anyone else besides technically Vivi joining at this point lmao.

[urban lodge]

Hell no I'm just saying that part has already happened

[hallow herald]

they’re all big guys that Luffy initially fought but later befriended

[steel stirrup]

I don't like that ngl

[steel stirrup]

Ah I see

[hallow herald]

Luffy met BB in between Bellamy and Cricket and instantly started beefing with him

this is a riddle guys

[hot cairn]

so you’ll be with the Loki joining ship to the end

[stone tulip]

I mean leaning towards a new character for now

[hot cairn]

honorable

[dapper tree]

Yes

[hallow herald]

an algebraic pattern

[hazy turret]

Mosa is clearly Eris

It’s practically confirmed

[hallow herald]

if Luffy + rude big guy = ally, what happens with the rudest, biggest guy

[dapper tree]

I can't abandon my theories

[steel stirrup]

Two in a row Krome

[proud pivot]

UGH

[hazy turret]

No embeds

https://fixvx.com/pewpiece/status/1992972948349604205?s=46

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New official onepiece birthday art for Katakuri

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[ornate tartan]

i deleted it cuz it didn’t work

[hazy turret]

Wtf

[still abyss]

are shakky and ray married?

[ornate tartan]

😂

[steel stirrup]

LMAOO

[ornate tartan]

tried twice

[hallow herald]

nah they swingin

[strong wadi]

I wonder why the kingq ping broke. But yeah, Common Pasta L

[proud pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/wawa-emdeb-fail-failure-cat-gif-16703817715131368982

[hazy turret]

WTF?

Discord????

[stone tulip]

When I clicked that for some reason the website marked it as sensitive

[steel stirrup]

Umm I think so but they both still have their "fun"

[proud pivot]

uh oh

[hazy turret]

Okay we’re back

[hot cairn]

that looks sick

[proud pivot]

rokaya tryna get ips

[hallow herald]

they would have to run the craziest fade first

[strong wadi]

That's my goat

[sly belfry]

nice virus

[strong wadi]

Staff have been hacked before so...

[hot cairn]

Adam if BM returns will your overall OP rating go up?

[strong wadi]

Ofc

[steel stirrup]

I think so too ngl

[sturdy steeple]

No, it will go down because it would be too predictable for him.

[hot cairn]

and if she doesn’t, will it go even more down?

[tranquil blade]

LOL

[strong wadi]

Well elbaf has brought it up a little so it would at least bring it down to pre-elbaf levels

[hallow herald]

they practically said as much

[tranquil blade]

Oh mein gott

[dapper tree]

how is that even my fault

[strong wadi]

the common pasta L is law surviving, not the broken ping

[steel stirrup]

Yea and the way they both move they're both still very "active"

[dapper tree]

oh lmao

also

not my fault

[sly belfry]

why are you talking to yourself

[dapper tree]

oda can't write

[steel stirrup]

Brook asked Shakky what color panties she had on and she was gonna tell bro no hesitation

[tranquil blade]

I knew Law wouldnt die until like the final arc of the series

[dapper tree]

https://tenor.com/view/you-cant-do-this-to-me-donald-kimball-how-dare-you-dont-willem-dafoe-gif-14910653

[hot cairn]

iirc it was like a 4 out of 10 right?

[tranquil blade]

My theory is that Oda has been avoiding death for the most part so it can all happen in the the last arc

[dapper tree]

now that I think about it

[steel stirrup]

The Will of P lives on

[dapper tree]

using a character with split personality as a reaction to that was a bad idea

[hot cairn]

I genuinely think Oda isnt killing anyone in the final war

just a million fakeout deaths

[steel stirrup]

Same

[fluid cedar]

Ace rocks whitebeard roger all come back

[strong wadi]

No, that might have specifically been wano's composite score, not an overall score for One Piece

[steel stirrup]

!nevercook

[tropic nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/294551467820580864/1133027499652165743/nevercookk.png?ex=66017b96&is=65ef0696&hm=0956b22048302348dc9364bd3e06f4a7dfac56ed0525d7ba715dd12d12ce7059&

[lofty fern]

yep

[sly belfry]

freud slip of gif posting

[muted hedge]

some characters feels like they are dying for sure

[hot cairn]

ahh yeah that’s true, I remember now. What’s the overall score for Op?

[hallow herald]

ngl what if the WG revives Rocks and Roger and has them kill Rayleigh

[muted hedge]

i am still tugging onto the idea that Kuma will die within a sacrifice of some kind

[hot cairn]

if Kuma didnt die

[pine ridge]

garp is 100% dying

[sly belfry]

stop trying to kill kuma

[hot cairn]

no one is dying

[strong wadi]

It's probably still in the 9s but idk we'll see....

[muted hedge]

either that or sold out to Cross Guild

[steel stirrup]

S-Pebble and S-Cancer

[hot cairn]

Vegapunk is going to be alive and well

too

so yeah I gave up on people dying in final war

[hot cairn]

oh nice

[dapper tree]

I mean, technically my moria in wano theory was right

[hot cairn]

years later

[muted hedge]

i think it would be so interesting to see Buggy react to Garp being sold to Cross Guild given Buggy knows Garp very well due to his relation with the Roger pirates

[alpine trench]

banner on viz site with the full wide jump cover

[muted hedge]

maybe Buggy would even free Garp, if it came to it

[steel stirrup]

All that emotion just to get to Elbaf and Lilith was like "Bro i got another whole VP Stella we just gotta defrost his ass"

[tranquil blade]

Wasn't that Arsal's theory

[muted hedge]

i won't lie, it bugs me a bit that Luffy is the only one who isn't happy here

still dope none the less

[steel stirrup]

Rocks my glorious King

[sly belfry]

what do you think of kozuki moria

[hot cairn]

Kozuki Moria is lowkey peak

[proud pivot]

Rocks > Roger = Garp, thank you goda for the confirmation

[dapper tree]

still right

[sturdy steeple]

Three kings and a porcupine

[alpine trench]

this must go hard if you're stupid

[sly belfry]

i have no idea where this plotline is going

[hazy turret]

3 goats and a bum ass loser 💔

[proud pivot]

lol it does

[prisma yacht]

Roger and garp weren't in their prime

[pine ridge]

moria can read the poneglyphs

[muted hedge]

how do you come to this conclusion from this banner

[dapper tree]

Idk maybe

[warm sierra]

Cross guild poneglyph decipherer fodder

[alpine trench]

would've added a bum ass loser if kid was there but they're all kings

[dapper tree]

I liked the reveal, brought more to moria's character

[proud pivot]

you cant, i made it up

[hot cairn]

reading the poneglyphs for cross guild

[sly belfry]

so they dont need pudding anymore

[steel stirrup]

[warm sierra]

BB has pudding, not CG

[strong wadi]

The wiki is so funny about this

[hot cairn]

it was yes

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/meonly-gif-19710542

[hazy turret]

Garp is not a king

[prisma yacht]

Warp is the goat

[muted hedge]

aren't all who have conquerors technically a king?

[hot cairn]

I was about to ask who

[muted hedge]

or at least they have kingly ambition

[steel stirrup]

Nigga did you just say Pudding is in CG?

[sly belfry]

oh oops

[sturdy steeple]

Not a king but GOAT

[hazy turret]

What about the women

[sly belfry]

too many emperors, take one out

[hot cairn]

it’s bb who has pudding, not cross guild

[dapper tree]

back when I spelled moria wrong

[vestal heath]

Hey rich

[dapper tree]

So even older

[warm sierra]

Same shit, big mom wasnt an empress of the sea

[steel stirrup]

Didn't Big Mom want to still be the King of the Pirates

[fluid cedar]

Rayleigh is not all that greenbull can kill him easily

[steel stirrup]

Hey Roman good morning

[hazy turret]

And hancock?

[tranquil blade]

Fuckass spelling but you might have actually been first, this will be good ragebait

[steel stirrup]

What about her

[hazy turret]

Is she a king

[steel stirrup]

She's an Empress

[warm sierra]

She has coc?

[steel stirrup]

Yes

[fluid cedar]

Yes

[dapper tree]

lmao

[tranquil blade]

Everyone is king except for the guy named King

[steel stirrup]

We haven't seen her activate her aura lmaoo but yea she has Conquerors

[strong wadi]

Nah i got him beat

[tranquil blade]

Oh mein gott bruh

[stone tulip]

Hancock is conquerors

[dapper tree]

lmao, I joined in like october of 2017 so I can't even contest that

[strong wadi]

i mean, moria being in wano was super common anyway just based off his backstory

[sturdy steeple]

King being a bum ass sadist loser without conq is a very funny situation.

[hot cairn]

back when people had hope for Wano

[steel stirrup]

Good command potential

[steel stirrup]

???

[stone tulip]

More evidence Sanji will get it then

[sturdy steeple]

Well, I mean, it’s in his name.

[steel stirrup]

King the Lunarian?

[sly belfry]

ignore the edited

[haughty saddle]

Mein cola est bitte!!!!

[sturdy steeple]

Yeah?

[hot cairn]

I never bought it, also it should’ve been over when we saw him at Hachinosu

[steel stirrup]

When tf did he get Conquerors

[dapper tree]

never

[sturdy steeple]

Read what I said again.

[stone tulip]

Well he did show up in the arc, just not on Wano

[stone terrace]

Grim scenes for bm coming to elbaf

[steel stirrup]

Oh my bad I thought ts said "with"

[strong wadi]

I mean, marco coming to wano shoulda been dead in the water but Oda does what Oda does...

[tranquil blade]

People are not letting go of BM in Elbaph

[hot cairn]

true

[sturdy steeple]

Yeah, no worries. I just think it’s funny lol

[hot cairn]

this won’t end until the strawhats are out of Elbaph

[stone tulip]

Just like how some people theorized Vivi would show up on Egghead which technically she did just not on the island back in the day.

[steel stirrup]

Oda should give the last non clone Lunarian CoC fuck it why not

[tranquil blade]

They tried to use the tree being weak to lightning and fire (like literally any tree) as foreshadowing of her return

[hot cairn]

I remember Meek’s theory that Vivi was coming to Wano

[stone tulip]

To be there was some set up for Marco to show up anyways

[stone tulip]

A lot of people theorized that

[muted hedge]

yeah it's undoubtable at this point

[stone tulip]

Unironically Elbaf made it quite clear on that one

[sturdy steeple]

I like how it was basically a setup for Loki and HKs instead

[strong wadi]

We calling ace the Pirate Prince or something? 😭

[stone tulip]

Yeah Loki did cause a fire on that

[hot cairn]

yeah I remember debating merry on that Ragnir was the thing that can produce both things

[copper axle]

Rocks is a D and its the first one in the manga series that died without a smile and his execution wasn’t clearly shown could it be that he is still alive and RN now brainwashed and turned to one of IMU Knights or something similar of some sort or does the Davy clan members are different from the rest of the wielders of D in their name?

[hot cairn]

I was correct

[latent hamlet]

ITS WEAK TO LIGHTNING AND FIRE

Literally 99% of all OP: so are we

[steel stirrup]

They have "kingly" ambition

Or very high willpower

[tranquil blade]

Yeah it definitely was for Ragnir at least

[stone tulip]

“First one in the series to die without a smile”

Cobra and Clover begs to differ

[digital spear]

The point was that its Elbafs weakness

[strong wadi]

didnt hiriluk die with a smile

and bellemere

[muted hedge]

i mean if he didn't end up dying, he might as well have been

[tranquil blade]

Well Killingham did set some stuff on fire too

[dark nymph]

Sanji is getting ACOC in Elbaf

[hot cairn]

and Oden

[steel stirrup]

I think yes to both

[sturdy steeple]

Sanji upscale

[stone tulip]

Unironically how Luffy is opposite of that

[muted hedge]

yes, qualities of a king like i said

[hot cairn]

no big mom set up

[tranquil blade]

Yes I know of that

[latent hamlet]

Technically luffy doesnt resist fire
He just doesnt give a shit

[dapper tree]

GUTS

[latent hamlet]

Kaido flamethrower low roll no crit

[stone tulip]

It took some GUTS to withstand a fire

[muted hedge]

i wonder what makes Warcury so hot to touch

[latent hamlet]

Luffy got burned but he has the guts ability so he did more damage

[steel stirrup]

I wouldn't say someone like Sengoku who was perpetually being commanded by someone higher up would have kingly "qualities"

[strong wadi]

Bro hitting Kaido with the Facade

[carmine schooner]

Serious Ball knowledge required to understand this

[dark nymph]

if that government dog Sengoku can get Conq, anyone can get it

[muted hedge]

since Oda decided to give him it, i wouldn't doubt it
even tho Sengoku is dirt

[stone terrace]

Sengoku and harald have that shit its over man

[latent hamlet]

Too bad Gear 5 Luffy lost Guts

Instead he got his own unique ability

[steel stirrup]

Luffy's battle class would definitely be Berserker or Brawler

[carmine schooner]

Id say he proved he deserved it when he stopped the war after shanks asked

[tranquil blade]

I actually still dont fully get it

[hot cairn]

Sanji getting it

[tranquil blade]

Like he just tanked it because he wanted to

[latent hamlet]

He just didnt give a shit yea

It still hurt him

He just decided to power through

[steel stirrup]

Valid

[stone tulip]

Anyways top 5 theories on Elbaf:

1. Vivi shows up on Elbaf
2. Sanji will get conquerors
3. Loki and Hajrudin co captains
4. Loki didn’t steal the fruit and was framed for it
5. Usopp will inspire the children to be warriors somehow

[digital spear]

Luffy just rawdogged it

[strong wadi]

definitely disagree with with 3

[steel stirrup]

Such a way with words

[digital spear]

6. The tree leads them to the moon

[hot cairn]

what do you think Loki will do after the arc is over?

[strong wadi]

I'd say Loki becomes the Giant King while Hajrudin stays being the captain of his crew

[dark nymph]

Loki is joining the SHs

[stone tulip]

It’s inevitable

[digital spear]

So glue

[steel stirrup]

I can see that

My money is on co captains

[stone tulip]

Especially last chapter

[hot cairn]

but what about all the other giant crews having 2 captains

[muted hedge]

ah yes, just piss on Hajrudins dream

[tranquil blade]

Idk if Elbaph is ready for Loki as the sole ruler of their nation

[strong wadi]

Unless we are going with the fall of Elbaf, it'll need Loki to stay on Elbaf to protect it, similar to Yamato staying

[strong wadi]

Dressrosa was cool with King Riku coming back

[steel stirrup]

They have Jarul

[stone tulip]

Either way he is gonna do that anyways regardless he is king or not

[digital spear]

Hes dying

[tranquil blade]

I forgot people do like change their minds instantly sometimes

[stone terrace]

Just drop a 5 year old big mom

[steel stirrup]

Bro been dying for about 60 years now

[stone tulip]

Or it’s alternate route to sky island that Ganfall mentioned way back

[hot cairn]

I think Loki has 2 things that could make him leave Elbaph:

1. finding the Galleila giants
2. helping Mosa with whatever situation they are in

[digital spear]

Thats the first step

[royal orchid]

katakuri birthday art is delicious

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[steel stirrup]

Thats three in a row

[urban lodge]

I think discord thinks it's porn

[steel stirrup]

Must be

[digital spear]

Its over

[strong wadi]

twitter just doesnt like to embed as much since the name change

[muted hedge]

understandable it's a pissy name

[steel stirrup]

Gotta use fixup for everything now

[royal orchid]

if this server was good I'd use the other funnier versions

[stone tulip]

Most likely the first tbh, the Mosako stuff might happen on Elbaf with Mosa might show up there instead

[warm sierra]

I wonder if Loki said the stuff about galleila out loud bc technically chopper did see them if they are on PH

[royal orchid]

isn't katakuri like 49

[hot cairn]

why did you ignore me Adam

[stone tulip]

Possible

[steel stirrup]

I think so

I know hes pushing 50

[tranquil blade]

He's 48

[hot cairn]

why would Mosa show up in Elbaph if they are in trouble

[carmine schooner]

Whats bm's age

[tranquil blade]

68

[digital spear]

68

[strong wadi]

cause bad theories are bad

[stone terrace]

Kata is not big bro he is unc

[royal orchid]

so close. yet so far.

[steel stirrup]

So since today is his birthday he would be 49 now

[stone tulip]

Well possibly they are on heaven realm or something

[carmine schooner]

Damn she had him at 20

[digital spear]

Hes like 60 then

[hot cairn]

LOL, but what do you think will happen with those two plot points then? The Galleila giants and Mosa

[tranquil blade]

Is it november in the one piece world

[steel stirrup]

Crazy round up

[steel stirrup]

Beats me

[strong wadi]

Mosa gets cooked and is apart of the big "rescue" arc

[muted hedge]

Katakuri being 49 is so weird

[strong wadi]

galleila is a later issue, anyone can do that once vegapunk randomly mentions they're there

[muted hedge]

he should've been like 29

[steel stirrup]

Loki: "Say it Mosa! SAY YOU WANT TO LIVE!!!"

[stone terrace]

Werent ppl tryna say its usopps birthday rn in the present

😭

[strong wadi]

or any strawhat that saw galleila could mention it too, idr which ones saw them

[steel stirrup]

Did they?

Is it?

[warm sierra]

Nami and Chopper iirc

[stone tulip]

It’s Nami’s group

[muted hedge]

did they say that they were Gallelia?

or just giants

[hot cairn]

rescue arc? You mean like the one after this? Or just in the future

[steel stirrup]

Nami and Chopper saw them and Chopper is there rn with them tending to Gaban so who knows

[strong wadi]

I mean, they didn't, but I'm going to assume they are until proven otherwise

[muted hedge]

yeah i do too, but i mean would Nami and Chopper connect the dots

[sly belfry]

i think its way past that, usopp's is a month after tama's

[strong wadi]

Whatever arc involves pudding, garp, probably law's crew

[hot cairn]

but according to Rocks, you need the Elbaph devil fruit for something in relation to the Galleila

[steel stirrup]

Nami maybe

Chopper😬

[hot cairn]

Arsal’s Hachinosu War

[steel stirrup]

Bro is convinced

[charred flower]

So, if Roger and Xebec didn't have a black blade, does that upscale Mihawk or opens up the theory that he inherited Yoru?

[hot cairn]

me? Nah

[dapper tree]

paint

[strong wadi]

They wont be need to free them but they'll probably only obey the person with the fruit. (We'll find out that fruit is actually Luffy's btw)

[royal orchid]

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twitter's actually a bit funny today sad it's spoiler week

[digital spear]

Or it proves that being a swordsman really is different than being strong with a sword hence why Shanks is stronger than Mihawk

[steel stirrup]

Nah Arsal

[latent hamlet]

Ok here's a thought
Would u like gear 5 more or less if Nika was never a thing at all

[hot cairn]

I’m starting to think it’s not Luffy’s fruit because Rocks had no idea who Nika is but knows specifically what fruit is on Elbaph

[steel stirrup]

He is convinced that Luffy is pulling up to Hachinosu soon

[hot cairn]

there’s a contradiction there

if it’s Luffy’s fruit

[strong wadi]

If it was just the regular awakening of the gomu gomu no mi, I would have absolutely 0 problems with it.

[tranquil blade]

Basically what I'm hearing from you is that Oda is a hack

[frozen aspen]

like luffy doesn't got better shit to do

[steel stirrup]

I noticed this too

[latent hamlet]

So im assuming u would prefer if Nika didnt exist in story

[steel stirrup]

Only evidence is can find of Luffy giving a fuck about Garp is the Claw Machine color spread

[strong wadi]

Well, the alternative is Loki, who we think ate that fruit that was Elbaf's treasure, who now considers himself Nika, which still goes against what you said.

[digital spear]

Which is what Mihawk fans should have realized

[strong wadi]

Yeah probably

[frozen aspen]

[steel stirrup]

Other than that I have no reason to believe that Luffy would care if he found out BB had Garp

[royal orchid]

I've never seen shanks punch someone

[digital spear]

Nika can exist but Luffys fruit shouldve stayed the Gomu Gomu

[wet condor]

Haki hand is coming

[urban lodge]

Height scalers just lost at least, 5 hp Garp just beat the shit out of Sengoku

[frozen aspen]

probably used to throw hands with buggy

[royal orchid]

solid haki constructs

[latent hamlet]

So maybe just coincidental resemblance in ability as opposed to "nah he's just nika"

[strong wadi]

They arent rivals

[warm sierra]

Was there ever anything about how luffy feels about garp after MF?

[royal orchid]

haki gun in 10 chapters

[frozen aspen]

what height scalers

[digital spear]

wait what does this mean

[strong wadi]

hold up lemme enlighten you

[latent hamlet]

Haki gun is in pirate warriors shanks moveset too

[wet condor]

Garp is 9'5", Sengoku is 9'1"

[tranquil blade]

SHanks is 1cm taller than Mihawk so therefore he's stronger

[steel stirrup]

Like heights in the hierarchy of the Marines, I assume?

[wet condor]

We're safe

[urban lodge]

You don't know height scaling? People say Shanks is stronger than Mihawk because he's 1cm taller

[charred flower]

I mean, that's obvious and non debatable

[steel stirrup]

Oh hell nah

[digital spear]

I wish everyone could see that

[frozen aspen]

ohhh that

nonsense

[digital spear]

Is Sengoku 1cm taller than Garp?

[tranquil blade]

I hope Shanks fucking dies and goes to hell

[urban lodge]

I think so?

[wet condor]

HEIGHT SCALERS, HOLD THE LINE

[frozen aspen]

this is a top bottom chart

[royal orchid]

nah wait that whole moveset is hilarious

[frozen aspen]

[steel stirrup]

LMAOOOOO

😭😭

[frozen aspen]

its true

[latent hamlet]

"Shanks is playable"
"What does he do"
"Haki lightning sword and haki gun that shoots giant haki bullets"

[royal orchid]

they got haki waves

[frozen aspen]

zoro is 1cm taller so obviously he is the top duh

[steel stirrup]

😭

[latent hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-shanks-vs-garp-pirate-warriors-haki-swordsman-gif-8491412575273945125

[strong wadi]

Like, maybe 2 heights is a coincidence, but 5 is a pattern. People that refuse to 1cm heightscale are in denial.

[hot cairn]

Loki views Nika as a destroyer. When Loki explained to Harald that he think he’s Nika because of that, Rocks said that Harald is the one with that power.

And then he started talking about how the Galleila giants can only be controlled by Harald. In a previous chapter he also mentioned that the Elbaph devil fruit will only truly work if Harald eats it.

I think we can assume that the devil fruit and the Galleila are connected. Loki says he’s Nika because he has the power to destroy the world with the Galleila giants, using the mysterious Elbaph devil fruit.

[urban lodge]

Oh I was sure Sengoku was taller

[royal orchid]

haki Summon Lightning (2) 😭😭😭

[warm sierra]

Is that on the PS1? Wth

[sly belfry]

but they arent 1cm apart, those dont count

[wet condor]

I took a sec to check lol

It's diff yeah. Penny was just making a joke lol

[charred flower]

When Shanks is compared to a 5th Yonko commander we can start having a conversation

[latent hamlet]

Its pirate warriors uhhh 3 I think
Shanks moveset before film red

[frozen aspen]

sengoku should be 1m tall to reflect how much of a pathetic little man he is

[stone terrace]

All these people with swords stronger than mihawk but nobody calling them WSS

[latent hamlet]

I think he has another super where he stabs the ground and emits haki electricity all over himself in an aoe

[brittle peak]

Height is a joke,
why tf was wb as big as big mom and kaido this flashback?
I swear he is supposed to be a foot or so shorter

[steel stirrup]

Mihawk slander in 2025

[warm sierra]

They had growth spurts

[royal orchid]

I posted that image earlier

[latent hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/shanksaoe-rpg-powers-skill-gif-16854855

[frozen aspen]

bc they want to make mihawk fell better about himself for painting his sword

[strong wadi]

Yes, i agree with the devil fruit and galleila being connected. I think there is a good chance it is the fruit Luffy ate.

[tranquil blade]

because you have to like pray to your sword and practice with your sword like 67 times a day to be a "real swordsman" and everyone else is not a swordsman

[sly belfry]

kaido was still a growing boy

[wet condor]

People can tell me whatever they want, guys like Zoro, Mihawk, Oden follow the way of the blade. They're like Miyamoto Musashi and his book "Five Rings"

[latent hamlet]

Look at that shit shanks does lol

Mfer who needs Enel

Just use haki lightning

[digital spear]

Why are the marines here

[royal orchid]

did this game come out before Elden Ring

[strong wadi]

Height isn't real in the One Piece manga

[hot cairn]

but what about Rocks having no idea who Nika is?

[steel stirrup]

Haki lightning is wild work ngl

[dapper tree]

idk man, I stole it from google

[digital spear]

Yes

[royal orchid]

you are NOT smugu

[tranquil blade]

anddd I called it someone basically said it

[iron oriole]

Imagine needing a DF to make lightning, Enel skill issue fr

[latent hamlet]

4? Yeah
2020 vs 2022

[strong wadi]

A lack of knowledge from the Davy Clan. He knows the fruit is important but he doesn't know the fruit actually is it seems

[hot cairn]

mmm perhaps

[royal orchid]

all of Elden Ring's non dragon lightning spells are one piece pirate warriors references

[wet condor]

I will be convinced otherwise when Mihawk explicitly beats Shanks in a fight or Shanks says "Mihawk is stronger than I"

[latent hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/shanks-gif-20433087

Seriously Enel
Just improve your haki

[tranquil blade]

Zoro's dream is shit

[wet condor]

There would be some others that would convince me but these are examples lol

[ornate tartan]

👀

[latent hamlet]

WAIT
THE MIHAWK VS SHANKS ARGUMENT
PEOPLE WILL SAY

"Shanks. No haki lightning allowed"

[stone terrace]

Well i know shanks would be down to duel

[latent hamlet]

[stone terrace]

Migawk on the other hand

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-helmeppo-one-piece-haha-cracking-up-gif-2893606137879589022

[brittle peak]

About Dragon quitting, didn’t some source say that he quits the marines in his mid 20s? and not 17

[digital spear]

Bro doesnt know of Enels acoc lightning combo

[tranquil blade]

There's like 50 guys stronger than his goal but because they treat their sword in an extremely specific way they dont count as swordsmen, why should I care then?

[wet condor]

The journey to Zoro's goal has honestly not been good

[royal orchid]

Shanks (no haki, no griffon) vs Mihawk (no haki, no yoru)

[iron oriole]

Tama wins

[tranquil blade]

One arm vs Two arms

I know who wins

[wet condor]

Ignoring the question of who does and doesn't qualify as a swordsman, we never see him fight swordsman really or other guys aiming for it

[steel stirrup]

Do you guys think that was Morley in this chapter or just a random Giant

[iron oriole]

Random Giant

[digital spear]

Doing what

[wet condor]

I don't mean never literally here btw

[latent hamlet]

What's funny is pirate warriors 4 did a completely different moveset for shanks because of film red

[iron oriole]

KO'd by Harald

[wet condor]

But I wish it had happened more often

[stone terrace]

I dont believe so. It was a popular theory he met akainu in the marines though and sources say akainu joined at 23

[steel stirrup]

Just vibin

[urban lodge]

Is that another leaker headcanon?

[steel stirrup]

No

[wet condor]

All these fellas joining at 23 lol

[latent hamlet]

https://youtu.be/JsN3m_gRg6I?si=opr1r9v2HQcboD6L
His charge attack at 1:26
Giant haki bullets

[ashen rose]

What?

[digital spear]

wow it really looks like Morley

[wet condor]

I wonder what Akainu was doing before he enlisted

[steel stirrup]

It does

[stone terrace]

23 is a weird age to enlist

[iron oriole]

Its just gonna be some random Giant

[warm sierra]

How old is Morley?

[digital spear]

Gonna enlist now

[ashen rose]

Goddamit Socrates

[brittle peak]

hmm, dragon and akainu not being buddies as marines is a missed opportunity ngl

[tranquil blade]

If I was you I would not let that disrespect slide

[muted hedge]

suffering

[tranquil blade]

https://tenor.com/view/mark-phillips-instiagtor-gif-22728638

[steel stirrup]

Most likely but bro does resemble Morley

[iron oriole]

160

[ashen rose]

I don't know why he pinged me bro, I was asleep

[strong wadi]

Well, when Ethan, Shanks, Garling, Law, and Imu are all dead, there won't be anyone left alive to make it questionable.

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/takes-glasses-off-deal-with-it-gif-9227031

[wet condor]

It makes less sense because you know most of these guys didn't go to college so it's not like they're getting an expedited path to a more senior rank or a commission lol

[digital spear]

I was here when he pinged you and left and now im here when you reply

[frozen aspen]

wasn't that around the time dragon was born? when garp joined?

[ashen rose]

Go to sleep lol

[warm sierra]

Idk why I even ask about giants age as if it wouldnt line up with GV

[frozen aspen]

deadbeat bum

[warm sierra]

Hes 160

[tranquil blade]

Yeah if you kill everyone strong Mihawk is finally the strongest

[wet condor]

If you're comparing it to the real world

[latent hamlet]

"Hold up shanks. This is a duel between swordsman. Put the gun down"

[tranquil blade]

That's amazing

Maybe Oda really is a hack

[steel stirrup]

Oh I was here i remember

Someone asked him a Loki question that he felt was beneath him to answer so he pinged you so you could handle his lightweight

[latent hamlet]

Then film red be like ok we're ditching the gun

But we're cranking up the haki lightning and haki slashes

[ashen rose]

This bum

What was the question?

[muted hedge]

isn't this just because they had nothing to go off of, hence why the DLC Shanks removes the gun completely

[stone terrace]

Akainu wasnt some bum either he was strong from day 1

[wet condor]

From the day he enlisted yeah

[ornate tartan]

beneath to answer? the fuck😂😂

[tranquil blade]

He also had a sword when he joined I think

[wet condor]

He was already a monster

[strong wadi]

Bro was out here on the streets

[latent hamlet]

Film red removes the gun yea
But they crank up the haki lightning and haki slash bs

[steel stirrup]

#also-manga message

[wet condor]

You can tell he's killed someone by the age of 10

[steel stirrup]

😭😭

[muted hedge]

probably more accurate that way

[brittle peak]

in theory, Mihawk is probably as strong as Shanks, but lacking feats and better portrayal.
Garp got it, m surr Mihawk’s turn is coming

[royal orchid]

The Haki Piece... The Haki Piece is real*!!*

https://tenor.com/view/barba-branca-gif-26177073

[wet condor]

Before reaching double digits maybe

[ashen rose]

What kind of question is this?

[latent hamlet]

Bro turned invisible and just slashing everywhere

[muted hedge]

Mihawk has to be as strong as he is made to be, otherwise Zoros whole dream would crumble along with it

[wet condor]

Probably had to take care of some pirates or bandits who were harassing his people

[steel stirrup]

Bro hates Pirates but he looks like a damn Pirate to me

[latent hamlet]

WB: u aint it BB. Your pirate warriors moveset has no haki

[steel stirrup]

Bro got Master Yi's Q too?

[strong wadi]

He got the wrong kind of mass

[muted hedge]

not as bad as Fighting Path which literally made Shanks create haki dimension slashes

[steel stirrup]

How fucking dare you

[prisma yacht]

😂😂

[royal orchid]

It's not you Teach. The man the meta was waiting for... is not you.

[steel stirrup]

Dimension slashes is just

Lmaooo

[muted hedge]

at least it looked cool

that's probably their reason for doing it

[steel stirrup]

LMAOOO

[latent hamlet]

Meanwhile what does mihawk have

The same fucking moveset

Since like

Pirate warriors 2 i think

[hot cairn]

Mihawk kinda boring but Oda putting him on Cross Guild is peak

[latent hamlet]

The real reason he's losing to shanks is cuz shanks gets more made up bs

[hot cairn]

I hope we see more of them

[steel stirrup]

Does he still have that move where he uses his sword like a Pogo stick?

[stone terrace]

Nah cuz because they have mihawk they cant do anything 😭

[stone terrace]

Poking crossguild begging them to make a move

[wet condor]

wtf is this

lmaoooo

[muted hedge]

Fighting Path

[wet condor]

Haki dimension tear?

[ornate tartan]

these mfs starving

[latent hamlet]

https://youtu.be/EMt_kytt-AA?si=0x5U6IvBUde_Xu9E
I think its legitimately been unchanged

[ornate tartan]

😂

[latent hamlet]

Mihawk pirate warriors has so many green slashes

[brittle peak]

Missed opportunity to not unleash an admiral on Mihawk after abolition of 7 warlords.
That would have been so cool.
Fujitora seemed free

[muted hedge]

Pirate Warriors will probably have to remake Mihawk when they eventually get something from the manga concerning his real fighting style

[latent hamlet]

Shanks: I got the red haki lightning
Mihawk: um my sword glows green!

[hot cairn]

I don’t know why Oda didnt show them with the other Yonkos in chapter 1126

[digital spear]

Oda sucks and is bad and cant write

[wet condor]

This a great feat tbh. If he hadn't spent all that time clashing and getting held up by Vista, people wouldn't be talking shit about this lol

[iron thistle]

Cross guild is one strong member away from being able to go toe to toe with the other Yonkos

[cold steppe]

That's because the marines sent were enough

[hot cairn]

but they need to make some moves cause the other 3 Yonkos are wayyy ahead of them

[latent hamlet]

@royal orchid the day pirate warriors 5 comes out
BB will still have no haki
But we'll somehow end up with egghead gear 5 haki with infinitely more haki

[brittle peak]

didn’t manage to capture him tho

[wet condor]

Mihawk just doesn't have the presence of a Yonko level character at Marineford

[cold steppe]

He was anticipating it

[wet condor]

It quite literally is aura

[cold steppe]

He figured out the abolition

[hazy echo]

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FixupX · Nov 24, 2025, 3:05 PM

[steel stirrup]

I understand its meant to show his resolve but I still don't like ts

[wet condor]

I think Oda is trying to make up for some of that now though

[ornate tartan]

hey hawkeye, get back here! - fodder

[stone terrace]

This is getting mileage

[ornate tartan]

promise they wouldn’t dare speak to an emperor like that😂

[hazy echo]

It’s the same moveset as PW3 yea

[ornate tartan]

even luffy has them terrified

[hot cairn]

true

[digital spear]

simply proves Shanks is stronger

[hazy echo]

Shanks has the same moveset as well it’s the Film Red version that got a revamp

[hot cairn]

giving him a Yonko bounty

[muted hedge]

it's not the same, Pirate Warriors 3 had a different unique action for Mihawk which made his gameplay flow much better

[wet condor]

Yeah

it's a start

[tranquil blade]

Shanks is literally stronger than every character in the series he's basically an immortal God to Oda

[pine ridge]

It kinda makes sense cause mihawk is just a chill guy

[stone terrace]

God king shanks

[frigid gulch]

I don’t believe “get back here” is canon

That’s added

[muted hedge]

Shanks has the influence which Mihawk doesn't

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/kowtowing-sign-of-reverence-kneeling-bowing-respect-gif-21500498

[frigid gulch]

By the anime

[digital spear]

Shanks is Odas little golden haki baby boy

[muted hedge]

though now Mihawk has some sort of influence due to him partaking in Cross Guild

[hazy echo]

Besides the unique action the move sets is still 1-1

[tranquil blade]

Like Shanks at this point is stronger than Davy Jones and Joyboy and Imu combined he could end the series rn but he he wont and he'll lose to some cheap trick from Blackbeard

[stone terrace]

Ace is the feat upscale man shanks is the narrative upscale man

[tranquil blade]

You know what I still fucking hate him

[muted hedge]

i wouldn't say so, since the strong attacks in Pirate Warriors 3 acted differently and were cut from Pirate Warriors 4 for the most part

[urban lodge]

Only after soloing his entire crew

[wet condor]

When Whitebeard literally TAKES A STEP, the everyone is paying attention. When Shanks and his boys pull up, everyone stops fighting and reconsiders engaging after they were literally slaughtering each other

[strong wadi]

I will repeat it again, but we will find out that Shanks is just Oda's golden boy on the surface, but he's been posed as the golden boy so that when his real golden boy comes out by beating Shanks, he'll be a golden boy above golden boys

[stone terrace]

Next chapter we're gonna see shanks personally meeting imu

[cold steppe]

Shanks will die by an ancient weapon because Oda can't have him look weaker than someone else

[wet condor]

And then there's Mihawk

[steel stirrup]

As a Mihawk fan this is devastating

[hazy echo]

Nah in Mihawk’s case they carried over a lot of stuff

https://youtu.be/_Oh6WHLU6OM?si=R_DNkkJfZCOe-22_

https://youtu.be/Y_4k9A08_wk?si=ghlkZaFicPYUJDUB

[muted hedge]

to be fair everyone were shocked when Mihawk even decided to make a move

[hot cairn]

[strong wadi]

He's already been scareed by bb offscreen

and bb has no scars, so he's already a walking L

[muted hedge]

a lot, yeah but it's not a direct 1:1

[wet condor]

I like him too actually. He was one of my favorite characters

[steel stirrup]

True he did have everyone shook but not nearly as much as the other top players

[hazy echo]

Even his gimmick thing is still here in PW4

[brittle peak]

That’s cuz Mihawk didn’t have that significant of a stake in marineford. He was just doing the bare minimum to protect his warlord status .
Wb and Marines had everything on the line - of course Mihawk had a passive role

[frigid gulch]

I think having the title of an emperor helps with that

[royal orchid]

I haven't seen anything yet is Mihawk's whole moveset just carbon copies of what he did on Marineford

[muted hedge]

that's probably due to his lack of influence, he didn't have a crew or any real source of numbers

[hazy echo]

Yea I guess 1-1 is not the best word to describe but for the most part he does have the same moves in PW3 it just got translated differently

[muted hedge]

the biggest contribute when you're an Emperor is probably the influence you have

[hazy echo]

Like CP0 Lucci in PW4 is pretty different compared to the normal one for instance which was based from PW3

[muted hedge]

all of the Emperors have had some sort of mass influence

[wet condor]

Yeah, I get it. I'm just saying that presentation will stick with people

[frigid gulch]

The Vista clash is the most overblown stuff I’ve ever seen tbh

[brittle peak]

even when Mihawk made a move, doffy and others were surprised that he is doing anything more than just standing there

[muted hedge]

the anime botched the Vista and Mihawk confrontation

[ornate tartan]

Oda wrote that Shanks Scar in Chapter 434 in 2006, i’m not sure he knew how long One Piece was gonna go on for because now he’s gonna have to explain how the fuck BB pulled that off with his portrayal since the time skip😂

[frigid gulch]

I could pull up several clashes between characters who have a significant gap in power

It just doesn’t mean anything

[wet condor]

I mean we all that Mihawk is stronger than Vista. Nowadays he'd probably just BTFO

[brittle peak]

‘ your gonna fight? lol

[strong wadi]

Marineford has to be taken with a big grain of salt because unfortunately, the WB pirates were completely outmanned, outgunned, etc, and Oda had the job of trying to get Luffy to Ace against all those monsters, which leads to Oda downplaying a lot of serious threats so it can happen.

[wet condor]

Yeah

[charred flower]

And no one cares about Mihawk, stalled by Vista and Crocodile

[wet condor]

This is the meta reason

[frigid gulch]

Doflamingo was his biggest fan

[digital spear]

Mihawk respected Vista and let him aurafarm

[brittle peak]

Warlords not going all out makes total sense, why would they

[latent hamlet]

The reason why no 1 cares about mihawk is because he doesnt have giant haki lightning fire slash waves

[strong wadi]

Like yeah, the log moment with luffy in front of the admirals is cool, but realistically he gets annihilated in the blink of an eye by them

[latent hamlet]

When shanks showed up every1 was afraid of his film red fire griffin blast

[muted hedge]

they had a mutual respect, yeah, which is why they both agreed to postpone their duel

[dusk carbon]

[river loom]

ong bro there were so many characters there oda didn’t have time to showcase all their powers so most of them were just forgotten

[muted hedge]

a lot of people care about Mihawk

[pseudo gulch]

It's CHAPTER WEEK

[wet condor]

Luffy shouldn't've survived this encounter at all yeah

[frigid gulch]

Mihawk missing every slash is pretty abnormal

But it’s Luffy

[urban lodge]

The great Mihawk switch up is inevitable anyway, we just saw it happen with Dragon

[frigid gulch]

So not quite

[tranquil blade]

I was gonna crash out about him but I'll wait until his next appearance to do that

[latent hamlet]

Blocked by Jozu

[wet condor]

If everyone was bloodlusted like in an actual irl war

[latent hamlet]

[charred flower]

Oda disagrees

[muted hedge]

yeah, Jozu who is the most durable man

[scenic dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/whitebeard-pirates-marineford-one-piece-fossa-fossa-one-piece-gif-17826019187446567279

The true strongest swordsman at marineford

[cold steppe]

There was absolutely no indication that Mihawk was holding back during marineford

[brittle peak]

totally full powered Mihawk

[leaden rivet]

Oda just cares a lot more about shanks than Zoro

[cold steppe]

Completely from fans

[frigid gulch]

Mihawk has said one thing before and done another

[leaden rivet]

That’s just what it is

[digital spear]

I dont have to switch up about Mihawk unless hes stronger than Shanks

[frigid gulch]

He goes back on his words

[digital spear]

So glue

[latent hamlet]

Pirate warriors mihawk showed more power and effort than Canon mihawk ever did
Thats the sad part

[muted hedge]

well of course, considering it's a game revolving around beating up millions of fodder

[pine ridge]

yeah the next attack was full power. either luffy someone dodges or he's dead no inbetween

[muted hedge]

you could say that about any of the characters

[latent hamlet]

Canon mihawk fights like he wants to go to bed

[frigid gulch]

It’s just obvious the Warlords had no stake. They’re not putting their lives on the line for the WG

[wet condor]

Like if you're capable of understanding the meta reasons for this, you obviously know this is not supposed to take this that seriously. But it's going to be used for slander material. There's just a lot of irony going on

[tranquil blade]

Fuck this yknow. This Mr perfect character who cant lose, who cant struggle, is morally perfect, is beloved by literally everyone except the people he oneshots. I'm gonna lose my mind if I see him do some bullshit again like oneshotting Loki or making Blackbeard beg for his life

[cold steppe]

I'll switch up the second he's not acting like px 01 anymore

[charred flower]

Even in the TCG, the new Mihawk leader is really disappointing and is just a counter to Zoro and other characters that work like him

[digital spear]

Can people stop talking about PW man why cant op have real fighting games

[leaden rivet]

It’s going to be used as legitimate arguments because there’s no real legitimate one for Shanks>Mihawk

[river loom]

Not Holding back ≠ going all out

[charred flower]

At that point any Yonko Commander attack takes out Luffy

[pine ridge]

elden ring with one piece mod pack

[urban lodge]

I hope the latter happens, it would be so funny

[hazy turret]

It looks like you alr are

[frigid gulch]

Not true at all

[leaden rivet]

The only real argument for shanks>mihawk since the beginning is that you feel like shanks should be stronger

[stone terrace]

I think about vista blocking mihawk and i actually start cracking up

[wet condor]

I'm a height scaler

[leaden rivet]

And I suppose he is a cm taller

[tranquil blade]

I tried to reason but I dont think I can let my hatred of Shanks ever go, I scorn him

[frigid gulch]

Kizaru hit Luffy many times

[leaden rivet]

Yes yes music

That also

[hazy turret]

199>198

[stone terrace]

Imagine if vista blocked divine departure

😭

[scenic dirge]

I mean, yea as Adam said, If you're someone who needs to take everything so literally rather than understanding the context that this is a story written by a singular author that constructed that arc for the sake of achieving a specific narrative goal then Just how it be in these long ass shonen series

[muted hedge]

i think it's ironic that people call Shanks perfect, when he has his two biggest flaws right there

[latent hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/vista-vs-mihawk-one-piece-vista-mihawk-fight-gif-25541775

[woven talon]

[leaden rivet]

I suppose that’s the only valid argument there

[muted hedge]

a scar from Blackbeard and a lost arm

[frigid gulch]

That’s a bad comp

[dapper tree]

he could

[frigid gulch]

Mihawk never used the equivalent of Kamusari

[cold steppe]

The thing is there is nothing that says he wasn't going all out. Which means he was. Otherwise we'll just go to every character and easily say he's not going all out

[frigid gulch]

Whatever it is

[river loom]

Wouldn’t be surprised he’s surpassed most of the old gen atp

[stone terrace]

Use his super powerful iceberg killer on vista

[charred flower]

Shanks not holding back = 1 hit KO.s Kidd with 3bill bounty and all 3 hakis + it's aftershock KOs it's first commander

Mihawk not holding back = gets dodged by pre ts Luffy, cuts ice

[urban lodge]

Shanks has one gigantic unforgivable flaw: abandoning Buggy

[frigid gulch]

the clash is very overblown

[woven talon]

Akai pfp?

[tranquil blade]

I lose all reason and see red whenever the topic becomes about him

[leaden rivet]

Mihawk doesn’t hold a candle to a Mary sue unfortunwtely

[grand flower]

That’s my baby mommas son, let’s relax

[frigid gulch]

Pica pretty much clashed with Zoro for a while

[leaden rivet]

However

Most other yonko and admirals have some pretty bad looks similar to that

[frigid gulch]

Zoro with Fujitora

[cold steppe]

Yes

[frigid gulch]

Prob the same as Vista

[leaden rivet]

Kaido has a few, and big mom also

[woven talon]

Sick!

[leaden rivet]

Kizaru in the same arc as well

Then there’s Sengoku etc

[grand flower]

You hate Shanks?

[leaden rivet]

For non Mary sue characters they have tons of demonstrable flaws

[pseudo gulch]

You will open your eyes one day and you'll understand

[river loom]

Most people at marineford weren’t really going all out it’s not like they weren’t trying but they didn’t give it their all

[leaden rivet]

I missed you….

[tranquil blade]

He just makes me so angry

[leaden rivet]

[pseudo gulch]

It's peak 🥹

[digital spear]

@tranquil blade You hate Shanks because you dont realize this

[frigid gulch]

I mean.. we had a few panels of Sommers clashing with Gaban too. This is like if you took that part and cut it up and used it to say the two are equal when we know Gaban basically trashed him

[tranquil blade]

There's been characters like him in other shonen and I consistently hate them too

[river loom]

Kid might come back and surpass shanks lowkey

[frigid gulch]

It’s just not logical

[pine ridge]

sengoku's attack didnt. and the point is that mihawk had not gone for a fatal shot yet for example he was going to only cut luffys hands rather than his head. but now he was going for a fatal shot and just kinda see what happens

[hazy turret]

Lock in bro, you gotta be nonchalant when the huzz are around

[urban lodge]

It's crazy because my hate for Shanks is basically completely gone (it transferred over to you know who)

[tranquil blade]

Theoretically it could be true

[pseudo gulch]

He's gonna surpass Shanks because Shanks isn't living to see the end of the series

[tranquil blade]

At least Rocks is like morally grey

[dapper tree]

well shanks will be dead so yeah

[digital spear]

Really? I dont see Red in this channel much often

[tranquil blade]

or at least questionable

[leaden rivet]

There’s actually a ton of Mary sue type characters I love, especially in other shonen. Shanks is just much worse

[river loom]

W he a Blackbeard victim

[pseudo gulch]

This sentence activated 5 gen alpha sleeping cells

[grand flower]

Who the devil are the huzz in here

[leaden rivet]

Im glad you redeemed yourself Avery, Penny is still a traitor but it is what it is

[digital spear]

You

[urban lodge]

I'm sorry...

[hazy turret]

YC

[pseudo gulch]

yuzz (YC huzz)

[hasty sable]

Shanks is going to embarrass Blackbeard if they ever fight

[grand flower]

Watch your moutj

[woven talon]

Ah so we can spoil stuff here? Pog. Did you know that the Epic of Gilgamesh has a flood in it? Just like OP

[hazy turret]

What did penny do

[grand flower]

Awhhhh muwah

[charred flower]

Probably Mihawk will get new feats, he's really strong... but what we've seen rn, he hasn't shown anything to put him over Law and we can't even mention any Yonko

[frigid gulch]

Rocks does remind me of some characters

[grand flower]

He cut an island in half

Beat shanks too

[urban lodge]

Though I will say the volume 113 marketing stuff with Shamrock did remind me of why I hated Shanks, it looks like his brother also gets similar treatment

He wasn't even in the volume man

[pine ridge]

true his feats are very weak

[leaden rivet]

Me, Avery and Penny hated shanks together, but Penny for no reason at all (because they saw a shanks flashback) decided they didn’t hate shanks anymore

[digital spear]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-doakes-james-doakes-dexter-morgan-gif-10927803439242951893

[tranquil blade]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-speedy-ishowspeedy-crashout-gif-12313702839187803425

[hasty sable]

Kind of wish Shamrock didn’t exist

[golden valley]

When

[frigid gulch]

Cutting the tsunami wave is still one of the best out there

[river loom]

Hotter brother btw

[hazy turret]

https://tenor.com/view/panic-attack-one-piece-crying-gif-23303231

[pseudo gulch]

He's so great he doesn't need to be in the volume to be on the cover

[frigid gulch]

It was as big as MF

[pseudo gulch]

🐐

[strong wadi]

This is the only reason I accept his existence

[urban lodge]

It helped that I found a new character to hate on for basically the exact same reasons

[leaden rivet]

This is how I felt

[stone terrace]

The anti shanks fanclub 😭

[frigid gulch]

It’s irrelevant that it couldn’t move. It’s a show of power still

[hasty sable]

Because “evil but not actually” Shanks being an emperor and also being a Celestial Dragon sounds cooler

[leaden rivet]

No no Shanks is much worse than rocks

[brittle peak]

Shamrock- the man who stopped Kaido from going to marineford and scarred Whitebeard
( Join the Shamrock agenda )

[leaden rivet]

Honestly if shanks was a little more like rocks I’d hate him less

[digital spear]

The anti Shankers are a bit silly

[pseudo gulch]

They're both peak 🥹

[stone terrace]

Its sad because theres no winning for you

[strong wadi]

Damn people had to give up on Garling so now they have to say Shamrock

[tranquil blade]

Rocks really is like just better

[tropic nova]

who do you think is the more attractive twin

1️⃣ Shanks

2️⃣ Shamrock

rokaya · Nov 24, 2025, 4:17 PM

[leaden rivet]

I’ve put all my stocks on Blackbeard. It’s all I have left.

[pseudo gulch]

MOVE THIS OUT OF MY SCREEN

[river loom]

Mid vs peak

[pseudo gulch]

OUT

[leaden rivet]

At like everything

His personality is better, his design is better

[frigid gulch]

Rocks is def better

[digital spear]

They look the same

[pseudo gulch]

Shanks got that deadbeat hobo rizz

[hasty sable]

Shanks can be perfect only because the entire point of him is that he was the chosen one too late so it’s not really all about him

[brittle peak]

Was always on anti Garling agenda, and I won

[grand flower]

They dueled and one is known as the WSS with power that surpasses the other

[urban lodge]

Design? Hell no

[pseudo gulch]

Shamrock could never

[tranquil blade]

I pray to Davy that Blackbeard kills this one-armed fucker

[urban lodge]

He looks like a sonic oc

[stone terrace]

Meh rocks design couldve been better

[river loom]

No no no shamrock is much hotter

[leaden rivet]

He got hoed so badly in god valley you’d never see shanks get done that dirty

[stone terrace]

Based off the silhouette

[hot cairn]

can’t believe this character development

[pseudo gulch]

His official hair color CONFIRMED he's also Buggy's dad

Buggy bros we WON

[wet condor]

I agree

[digital spear]

[strong wadi]

When he gets killed by bb after he has to extreme diff his father 😩

[frigid gulch]

I don’t think Shanks’ design is all that either

[wet condor]

I wanted him to look even more insane

[river loom]

Bro buggy whitebeard son

[wet condor]

Covered in scars

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/modern-family-spray-squirt-annoyed-irritated-gif-4445288

[hasty sable]

It’s the hair

[frozen aspen]

unfortunately for shanks, hus sense of fashiom is as bad as his sperm donors

[hot cairn]

you don’t believe the “BB killing Shanks” theories?

[frigid gulch]

The hair is the unique bit for sure

[hasty sable]

Nah

[hazy turret]

I feel like it’s that he looks like BB ngl

[wet condor]

Also wish he was more evil and violent

[woven talon]

Am I the only one who thinks it’s purple and not blue?

[tranquil blade]

I want him to go out in a way that doesnt glaze him endlessly, Whitebeard I can understand why Oda wanted to portray him that way

[hasty sable]

Shanks might die but idk

[stone terrace]

I dont like that his outfit is just shirtless dude with cape

[tranquil blade]

I just dont believe Shanks deserves it

[hasty sable]

I think if he fights Blackbeard then Shanks will not lose conventionally lol

[pseudo gulch]

It looks blue to me but I only saw it once and didn't pay too much attention

[charred flower]

In that regard that's the ammount of power he had to use with his DF to cut Vergo, we know those kinds of attacks don't work if haki is strong enough, that's why "huge slashes" against inanimate objects IMO aren't that important anymore, since even those can be tanked by strong haki users.

[leaden rivet]

I can understand tho, because for a moment my dislike for Shakky made me less hard on shanks

[golden valley]

It seems they didn’t settle their fight per Mohawk’s dialogue.

[frigid gulch]

I don’t mind that Rocks has spiky sonic hair

[hazy turret]

Sometimes I read the chapter and feel like it’s just BB that hit the gym

[pseudo gulch]

Yeah the fit could've been better ngl

[frigid gulch]

[pine ridge]

shamrock is the more talented, better looking, richer and taller brother

[brittle peak]

Shamrock is the ‘rick Shanks’ but theoretically Shanks should be a trillionaire, he just dresses like a homeless

[scenic dirge]

Kid BB is so chopped man

[grand flower]

Oh okay lol

[hot cairn]

why, I think it’s an interesting development

[river loom]

They not listening 🔥

[dapper tree]

don't forget more of a fraud too

[hasty sable]

Shanks is an emperor he’s got money

[leaden rivet]

Shanks is going to be the most talented cd of all time. lol

[tough igloo]

that’s why it was hilarious to me when rocks hair color was revealed and people started saying teach ain’t his son .. as if they don’t got the same exact face 😂

[wet condor]

most people would consider him a decent person

[pseudo gulch]

Hating on a kid is nasty

[wet condor]

You want him to deny humiliated and undignified?

[leaden rivet]

Shanks encouraged a toddler to become an international terrorist

[scenic dirge]

No age restriction on who I can hate tf

[pseudo gulch]

On a kid's looks

[tranquil blade]

He's not evil, he's TOO good is my issue

[hazy turret]

It’s literally copy and pasted bro

[digital spear]

W Shanks

[hasty sable]

I don’t really hate it. I just thought Shanks being in contact with the Gorosei on account of his Celestial Dragon ties sounded more interesting.

[stone terrace]

Im gonna sound weird but shanks is the perfect height imo

6'6

[wet condor]

lmao

[river loom]

Only great feat by shanks

[hasty sable]

Made him more than just Mr. Perfect

[stone terrace]

Same height as michael jordan and kobe

[pseudo gulch]

The perfect height for what? Cuddling?

[scenic dirge]

6'2 is more perfect irl

[leaden rivet]

Zip his pants up when you’re done

[tranquil blade]

Stop glazing

[frigid gulch]

Contender for best Rocks panel?

[hazy turret]

Holy manlet

[digital spear]

I dont date men under Shanks height

[ornate tartan]

😂

[tough igloo]

nah .. feel like it’s only really one contender

[tranquil blade]

https://tenor.com/view/d9luxe-cry-gif-300276708782576950

[leaden rivet]

Icon just dickriding unprompted

[scenic dirge]

I need Luffy to grow

[pseudo gulch]

Pipsqueak is so funny to me

[scenic dirge]

He's been short for too long

[frigid gulch]

Sometimes Rocks looks absolutely chopped

Other times solid

[wet condor]

Fr

[river loom]

5’8 isn’t short 🥹

[hazy turret]

I’m really tired of Oda’s anti-tall agenda

[brittle peak]

That could still be Shanks, still not understand why Shamrock has to be in a cloak in the holyland

[pseudo gulch]

Luffy can become at giant at will

[leaden rivet]

Only real issue with rocks is his face

[frozen aspen]

ugly ass baby

[scenic dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/roger-pirates-one-piece-oden-kozuki-oden-gol-d-roger-gif-24708280

[wet condor]

I don't want to see Garp clone sitting at 5'8"

[golden valley]

There’s nothing i hate more than height glaze and shanks glaze combined

[hazy turret]

Literally all the bad guys are tall

[tranquil blade]

Rocks is a little chopped but it's okay

[urban lodge]

I don't think I like literally a single thing about Rocks

[leaden rivet]

He should’ve been more distinctive, similar to Roger and Ace before oda made Roger an Ace clone

[pine scaffold]

its this

[pseudo gulch]

Sugar was like 3 foot and a half

[leaden rivet]

I don’t like his nose

[charred flower]

Luffy is like... 5.6?

[leaden rivet]

Or his teeth

[tranquil blade]

Except like Foxy

[urban lodge]

Well not true I like that he's dead

[leaden rivet]

Or his smile

[stone terrace]

Luffy is 5'9 now but he feels shorter

[tough igloo]

nah it’s the one that gets used 24/7

[brittle peak]

Rocks and Bb prove that ‘ you are not ugly, just fat ‘

[wet condor]

Yeah

[frigid gulch]

That one’s good too

[hot cairn]

I still think it was Shanks the one who went to talk to the Gorosei

[tranquil blade]

What if Imu is like 5'8"

[digital spear]

The problem with Xebec was he made the same face a bit too often

[leaden rivet]

Rocks is still ugly

[frigid gulch]

This one tho

[pseudo gulch]

Villains being tall makes sense since that makes them more menacing, you can't take seriously a dude who's 4 feet tall

[frigid gulch]

[ornate tartan]

Eustass Kid canonically is 6 foot 9

[pseudo gulch]

No matter how strong he is

[leaden rivet]

Imu is definitely shorter than 5 8

[river loom]

This definitely the best one

[brittle peak]

much better than Bb tho

[pine scaffold]

For the hype and aura yeah this for sure

[hazy turret]

I thought Luffy was 5’7??

[leaden rivet]

But he can blob himself to be taller I suppose

[stone terrace]

Literal plot of a dragonball movie

[urban lodge]

What if Imu is 1cm shorter than Luffy

[tranquil blade]

I want Luffy to fight one antagonist that's shorter than him

[stone terrace]

😭