also-manga

[tranquil blade]

Needed a Roger pirate to do it

[steel stirrup]

Don't Sb me

Stop it

[tranquil blade]

Like it's looking real bad for him

[frozen aspen]

no idea what u are talking about

[steel stirrup]

I love women bitches and hoes stop it

[digital spear]

Bogard was never meant to be a character...

[ashen perch]

And it couldn't have looked worse I thought but Oda proved me wrong

[tranquil blade]

Starting to wonder if Bogard is a cipher pol agent designed to just spy on Garp

[urban lodge]

If you loved them you wouldn't call them that tho

[frozen aspen]

calling them "bitches" amd "hoes" I see what u are

[tranquil blade]

He's a plant

[frozen aspen]

smh

[fallen meteor]

Ida is easily one of the least hateable characters in one piece
the only real reason for hating Ida is if you are really really into Rocks and want to think of what if Harald left

[digital spear]

the lack of self awareness...

[digital spear]

I mean that could be cool

[steel stirrup]

Bitches love me and I love them

[fallen meteor]

hey i said hk like 10 mins ago

[frigid gulch]

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[pulsar path]

Still don't hate Ida for that!!

[frigid gulch]

tuff

[golden valley]

Oh dw, we’ll get Bogard in final war alright, he’ll be in a bottom right panel in a position where his sword is still sheathed while his hand is still hand on said sheathed sword, the panel he’ll be in btw is a super duper irrelevant one that contributes almost nothing to the chapter

[fallen meteor]

he looks like a grasshopper here idk why

[ashen perch]

I don't know if Bogard is anything, is Bogard even real? I mean Oda never even even named him in the manga

[frigid gulch]

Grasshopper zoan

[frozen aspen]

art goes so hard, it makes you forget mihawk hasn't moved in 100s of chapters or e er really

[urban lodge]

They mass produce Bogards at Marine HQ like the Germa clone army

[digital spear]

Mantis zoan

[fallen meteor]

its the face he looks very bug-like here

[digital spear]

its their Kuma

[ashen perch]

The word Bogard has never been said in the series, he is not real

[leaden rivet]

Why do you hate Ida

[frigid gulch]

He’s cooked I fear

[hazy echo]

https://tenor.com/view/fatal-fury-terry-bogard-snk-gif-15731448

[digital spear]

Im just waiting for any to ask about Bogard

[frozen aspen]

He craves dead mothers. Maybe his own one didn't love him

tragic really

😔

[steel stirrup]

Turned Harald into a bitch

[fallen meteor]

O: Who the fuck is Bogard

[frigid gulch]

Iirc he was named in anime credits

In an episode

Tho not sure how credible it is

[digital spear]

Basically what Im expecting

[frigid gulch]

It feels pretty obvious though given his inspiration

[frozen aspen]

the average japanese fan probably has never heard the name bogard before

[digital spear]

I want to know how much Oda is aware of "Bogard"

[urban lodge]

He worked in the live action which calls him Bogard so I imagine he knows

[frozen aspen]

bogard to him is probably like pandaman. He draws him whenever garp and his marines are around and you have to spot him

[digital spear]

The askers know a lot, they always ask about side characters nobody else noticed in the manga. There have been people who counted the amount of specific words said in the manga or something

[frozen aspen]

the only difference is that oda probably actually cares about pandaman

[frozen aspen]

that makes the fact that noone ever bothered to ask about him only sadder

[digital spear]

yeah the askers are masters in finding out those characters

thats why im sure eventually someone has to ask him about Bogard

[grand flower]

This is cool as fuck

[pulsar path]

Interesting that bogard is based on a famous western actor and the admirals are based on Japanese

[fallen meteor]

whos bogard based on

[digital spear]

Bogard

[hazy echo]

Terry

[fluid cedar]

Ussop

[prisma yacht]

Woah

[fallen meteor]

buncha jokers here today

[pulsar path]

Humphrey Bogard

Bogart*

[fallen meteor]

oh

i see it

[digital spear]

I wasnt joking

[pulsar path]

Well assuming his name is bogard

[craggy vapor]

Bogard is EOS villain

[digital spear]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humphrey_Bogart

[craggy vapor]

is this adult ash ketchum?

[digital spear]

Bluds name is DeForest

Humphrey D. Forest

[pulsar path]

Damn the plot thickens!

[digital spear]

Is it like Trafalgar D. Water Law but instead of Water its Forest for him so hes Humphrey D. Forest Bogard

[leaden rivet]

Harald is responsible for his own actions. Ida didn’t make him kneel and rip off his horns.

[alpine trench]

the spreads of this chapter in the highest quality japanese raws

[pulsar path]

Damn so close to forest law

[frozen aspen]

imagine giving the name of a big name american actor to the biggest fraud in your series

[digital spear]

Hes just a gimmick

[digital spear]

Not his fault fans hype it up lol

[steel stirrup]

This all started because of her

Im partially joking but I'd rather Harald still be a rampaging pillager than this soft bitch he has become now

[frozen aspen]

then elbaf wouldn't happen and we wouldn't be here

dumb take

[fallen meteor]

i mean if harald was a rampaging pillager the giants in elbaf would just be dead

[frozen aspen]

nah

the marines would let them be until it was time to use them

[tranquil blade]

They'd be dead and Harald would likely be rampaging throughout the grandline

[final trench]

That boy is a traffic cone

[desert nest]

The op world unironically needs the rampaging pillagers rn

This could have been their redemption 🤧

[steel stirrup]

You calling my take dumb?

[frozen aspen]

ye

[dense rapids]

Maintain the agenda

[frozen aspen]

harald becoming who he is is vital to the plot

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/block-blocked-anime-gif-13872321

[golden valley]

Bogard ~ East Blue Zoro

[prisma yacht]

[desert nest]

Bogard would have low diffed

[tranquil blade]

Bogard can beat East Blue Zoro holy shit

[prisma yacht]

Omg rich

[frozen aspen]

damn i certainly won't recover feom this

[fallen meteor]

the plotline about the giants in elbaf is pretty clear from oda

[frozen aspen]

[final trench]

Buggy got the saber of xebec

[fallen meteor]

full rage is bad
full peace is bad
needs equilibrium

[steel stirrup]

Try to recover from being a bitch first and the rest will be easy peasy

[fallen meteor]

so harald has a peace son and a raging son
they co-lead the nation

[vale heath]

Full passive aggression

[dense rapids]

People will say that screenshot is a coincidence

[fallen meteor]

exactly

[final trench]

Gang what is the correlation

[steel stirrup]

Here we go again

[frozen aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-james-scared-scary-flop-gif-8576938341887257950

[dense rapids]

🐇 ⏰

[steel stirrup]

Bro

No

Please

Stop

[icy wolf]

wtf is galleila again

ik theres galleila giants in ice

[fallen meteor]

legendary giants

[icy wolf]

but how do they have the fruit rocks wants if they're in ice and all dead

[frozen aspen]

the ancient giant ship wrights

[vale heath]

A group of shipwright/carpenters

[digital spear]

Which one

[final trench]

They dont

[fallen meteor]

you flipped the idea

[warm sierra]

ancient giant shipwrights, jarul lore dumped it

[final trench]

Elbaf does

[steel stirrup]

They're not fruit users they are shipwrights i think he wanted another AW built

[fallen meteor]

the fruit is needed to free them? or something like that

[final trench]

Herald or i guess now loki, can command then and awaken them

[icy wolf]

he said one of the fruits is most likely in elbaf and we didnt really get any mention of the other one but it was followed up by saying rocks want to go to galleila

[steel stirrup]

The Buggy Ball is a Luffy level reach bruh

[vale heath]

Can Don Chinjao crack the galleira ice with his drill

[fallen meteor]

no its like soul ice black ice permafrost ice idk

[dense rapids]

Come back to this next time buggy appears in the manga

[steel stirrup]

Wouldn't that kill them

[fallen meteor]

gimmick ice

[urban lodge]

Socrates will crash out when Loki becomes the captain of a bunch of giant carpenters

[steel stirrup]

How long will that be

[vale heath]

Don’t we like the water 7 shipwrights

[steel stirrup]

He'll flip it around that's what the real fans do

[steel stirrup]

Paulie is the goat

Iceburg is cool

[frozen aspen]

good

[vale heath]

I’d be cool with Loki as the Iceberg of this group

[steel stirrup]

I like Alice she's funny

[torn stirrup]

i like how Kaido seemingly just flew away in dragon form lmao

[leaden rivet]

To kneel for your enemy and offer to be a slave for the sake of your country is the least soft thing ever

[warm sierra]

Breaking out gallela is the SH fleet incident

[leaden rivet]

He’s still a bitch no doubt, but I wouldn’t call him soft.

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-hysterically-gif-23860185

[frozen aspen]

everytime I see these guys I am reninded of the fact that fans back then wanted pauloe to join

[desert nest]

The WG would only bring ruin to elbaf and Harald was stupid not to know that

[vale heath]

Is this guy a sky islander

[dense rapids]

Next arc or this one

[vale heath]

Why he like that

[stone terrace]

I forgor to read official

[digital spear]

Maybe hes a fan

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-hard-lol-lmao-oh-wait-youre-serious-let-me-laugh-even-harder-gif-16553942

[steel stirrup]

LMAOO

[dense rapids]

Loki the hammer wielding giant captain of the giant hammer band….

[leaden rivet]

Im a bit curious does Harald not know about the CDs and what they get up to? And he knows what was going on in god valley no?

[dense rapids]

Why I never think of that 😭

[leaden rivet]

Why is he still so ok handing over Elbaf on a silver platter

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/hand-on-shoulder-akakichi-no-eleven-everything-will-be-ok-my-brother-in-christ-we're-gonna-beat-you-gif-16692013677699419935

[urban lodge]

Credit me when you post it on twitter

[vale heath]

Harald was not present at God Valley so he wouldn’t know about Imu

[digital spear]

Maybe thats how he gets the hammee

[dense rapids]

I’ll never slander Loki

[leaden rivet]

Im not talking about Imu

[steel stirrup]

He literally fought a WG ship of Marines and I think Cipher Pol to stop them from enslaving some people so yes he is well aware

[leaden rivet]

Im talking about everything else

[vale heath]

I’m gonna say I think he has suspicion about the nature of the event but not enough to stop his pursuits

[leaden rivet]

He should know that the WG are psychos

[prisma yacht]

Ppl who were present in gv don't know about imu

[warm sierra]

Native hunt doesnt happen on affiliated island so him knowing what happened at GV would actually explain his actions more

[steel stirrup]

Harald knows who he is dealing with

[vale heath]

Can you imagine a native hunt being attempted on Elbaf

[steel stirrup]

Bro still offered himself up

And like Sanji with a woman, Imu heard slave and immediately locked in

[leaden rivet]

The fact that this is happening means you can’t trust them

And they obviously don’t want the best for their people

[alpine trench]

imu cares about elbaf and the race of giants

they've been planning to get elbaf to its knees and in its control for years lol

[steel stirrup]

Sure and Sanjaun Wolf is just bloated

[frozen aspen]

imu needs the giants as his pawns

[cold steppe]

The giants are narratively strong

[alpine trench]

the giants of elbaf is something they specifically mentioned lol

[vale heath]

I’m narratively strong because I can close the book

[digital spear]

Who denied this

[alpine trench]

no one denied this

[stone terrace]

I denied it

[digital spear]

Im confused why the convo moved that way

[tough igloo]

cares in what way lol

like Imu wanna use them ? sure

[steel stirrup]

I vehemently deny it

Tf

[digital spear]

Anyone else

[alpine trench]

LOL

[steel stirrup]

Bro called him a bitch

And he's right

[left dove]

Wimu

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/kick-yeet-gtfo-kick-cliff-push-cliff-gif-9944415665032080774

[left dove]

bum locks cant even beat a literal black blob

a shadow

[frozen aspen]

ok

[left dove]

ko

[frozen aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/spearhyunho-gif-17038186950213244823

[grand flower]

Fans who criticize Harald are just like Imu fr

[alpine trench]

^ @steel stirrup

[steel stirrup]

Me rn

[alpine trench]

lmfao

i love this chat sometimes

[leaden rivet]

Oh you can just tell she’s a bad bitch

[steel stirrup]

Facts

[leaden rivet]

Man it really looks like rocks cared for Harald

[stone terrace]

[leaden rivet]

I wonder why rocks didn’t have much friends in his crew but he was real close to Harald

[left dove]

not the imu being a woman allegations again 🥀

[hoary steppe]

He cared his ppl more

[tough igloo]

yeah he seems the opposite of Teach when it comes to his relationship with his crew

[grand flower]

Like it’s low-key exactly what Imu believes

[stone terrace]

Harald didnt deserve a friend as good as rocks

Minus the beating up his son

[steel stirrup]

They was trying to tell me in this chat actually that they were not friends

[hoary steppe]

Did teach cared of his crew

[grand flower]

Looking at a guy going “I will do whatever it takes for peace” and thinking “that’s pathetic, prime for manipulation”

[alpine trench]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-ishowspeed-yeah-right-ishowspeed-yeah-ishowspeed-right-ishowspeed-stream-gif-2870397197282141259

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/kisaru-caminando-gif-21645789

[steel stirrup]

And in spoilers 2 Arsal had to deal with me all day long

I did not let bro forget ts

[tough igloo]

he’s more open with them like sharing his lineage with them unlike Rocks & I think Teach and his OG crew care about each other but not the level 6 prisoners & Kuzan

[hoary steppe]

Wait hol on

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-laffitte-laffitte-one-piece-marineford-white-gif-11425621421611392722

[hoary steppe]

Now we know teach, imagine kuzan stayed loyal lmao

Its over

[final trench]

^

[tough igloo]

yeah sadly I don’t think Teach will ever trust Kuzan (rightfully so )

[hoary steppe]

I mean god valley was a proof that there are ppl cared about xebec even tho they didn’t got nothing there

[final trench]

He stopped them from fighting ace

Didnt want them to fight akainu

Wanted hancock to unstone them

Wanted kuzan to unfreeze them

But ppl still say he doesnt care

[stone terrace]

Yeah

He doesnt lol

Its transactional

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/samurai-jack-aku-gif-8389133

[hoary steppe]

As bb fan my self, he can be

[tough igloo]

how much did they really care though lol WB Big Mom Kaido left as soon as he transformed and didn’t even think about trying to help him

[icy wolf]

i just had a thought

[hoary steppe]

I cant proof it yet

[final trench]

At most he probably doesnt gaf about pizzaro

[stone terrace]

You went thru the trouble of going to impel down to get a strong crew and almost died doing it

[final trench]

Or vasco

[stone terrace]

You dont just throw away your investments

[icy wolf]

since we know where the galleila giants are will we return to punk hazard now that we know they're important

[hoary steppe]

Lowkey you can see their reaction (genuinely didnt know) that xebec isn’t the same

[final trench]

Loki may go there himself

[hoary steppe]

Only garp and roger notice this

[tough igloo]

we already saw a certain someone at punk hazard where the frozen giants are.. that certain someone also has a chilly chilly fruit and on a certain yonko crew

[hoary steppe]

Yo…

[final trench]

Yea ill give them benefit of the doubt that they assumed he was far gone

[hoary steppe]

Cook

Kuzan stays loyal , unless bb killed garp

[final trench]

True but i dont wanna get too greedy with it 😭

[wide star]

hmmm why are you here Kuzan l

“ fate brought me here “ sounds like a Blackbeard pirate

[final trench]

If loki joins bb this could happen

[hoary steppe]

Bro i cant imagine if kuzan stays loyal

Its the most broken crew ever

[stone terrace]

And people want to add loki

[hoary steppe]

Imu is cooked

[wide star]

I can see him staying loyal as long as Teach goes after the CDs .. after that’s done i see him switching sides

[hoary steppe]

He totally going for CD only

[wide star]

i think that’s the agenda that him & teach agree on

[final trench]

I think kuzan is with the revs

[hoary steppe]

But shi, garp is about to be executed😭

Aint no way kuzan would let that slide

[final trench]

Garp is a trading token

[wide star]

i think as long as Garp is traded , Kuzan is fine with it

[final trench]

He’s most likely going to use him to work with the world government

[hoary steppe]

U think wg would approve the trade

[final trench]

But you know, and i know…

HES GETTING TRADED FOR PEACHBEARDDDDD

[final trench]

Yes

[hoary steppe]

Bruh 😭

Hell no

[wide star]

i’m sure Kuzan knew what the outcome would be once he decided to capture Garp lol

[final trench]

If they let the hero of the marines get captured they look like hoes

That just lowers morale

[hoary steppe]

They dont care about garp

[final trench]

Unless koby puts the battery in their back

[final trench]

The marines do tho

[wide star]

it’s not about Garp

Teach made that clear , it’s about the citizens

[hoary steppe]

Yes, but its WG stakes here

[wide star]

and that’s why he believes the WG will do what he wants

[hoary steppe]

I doubt that shi

[wide star]

he’s probably right .. first he believed it with Koby and now he has a much bigger hero

[final trench]

If they let garp die or dont take him back, thats gonna be a huge hit to the marines

[wide star]

Garp is the superman to the one piece citizens

they can’t just let him stay captured by a yonko

[hoary steppe]

Exactly, this is where the marine have their own internal clash

Garp death gonna create chaos to marine

[final trench]

Exactly

[hoary steppe]

WG would

[final trench]

From a citizens pov if GARP gets kidnapped nobody safe

[hoary steppe]

Its WG dawg

[wide star]

they wouldn’t and that’s what Tesch entire point was .. he didn’t care about the marines , he knew the WG wouldn’t want to allow that due to how it would look to the world

[hoary steppe]

Even lucci beg to mars to spare his friend

[hoary steppe]

Sooo what happened if wg denies ?

[wide star]

Teach already explained this .. and here he’s just talking about Koby, now he has a WAYY bigger and more popular hero in Garp

[hoary steppe]

If things dont go my way, i can at least give WG a bloody nose

Garp will die

[wide star]

Kuzan only reason for thinking it wouldn’t happen with Koby is because he’s SWORD , Kuzan didn’t deny anything else Teach was saying about making the WG accept his offer

Garp ain’t SWORD , so that reason won’t be a factor

[hoary steppe]

He already prepared stuff if WG denied

[prisma yacht]

Such kind words

[pulsar path]

Why is this so disturbing

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DRZzYvwEluF/?igsh=eXlvM284cjhvdXFh

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[wide star]

yeah his plan is killing them if they don’t accept his offer but Kuzan then told him they only wouldn’t accept because he’s SWORD

Garp ain’t SWORD , he’s the most famous marine in the world

[hoary steppe]

Literally ask for kingdom, from Davy D clan… just for garp safety?

Cmon

[final trench]

Or maybe they sneak free garp when bb isnt on the ship 🤷🏾‍♂️

Only thing i can see besides the peachbeard trade

[hoary steppe]

Imu want to wipe entire Davy D

Now u can imagine bb barging will be approved

[wide star]

clesrly Teach has more to his plan that he didn’t reveal , we all know he doesn’t just care about making hachinosu a kingdom .. it’s a bigger play

like he always does

[hoary steppe]

Iknow this

[prisma yacht]

Ewww😭

[hoary steppe]

But WG and bb trade is too much for them

[pulsar path]

Sorry hate sending ig links but they don't have it on the youtube

So weird tho

[wide star]

BB knows this which is why he’s using the “ hero” title against the WG by getting the civilians involved

[hoary steppe]

Noone touchhing bb territory ngl

[final trench]

They can sneak on there

Bogard and smoker

[hoary steppe]

Its WG we talkin, they saw everyone as insect

[wide star]

the world is already in chaos after wano plus VP speech , now turning all the citizens in the world against the WG because they won’t save Garp is something the WG isn’t gonna want at a time like this

[hoary steppe]

Blud would die on the spot 😭

[final trench]

They’ll be in and out

Awakened smoker can lift them

[hoary steppe]

The same way imu forced Elbaf to be his allies? Yeah, they do not care dawg

[wide star]

elbaf situation is nothing like hachinosu .. that’s a horrible comparison

[hoary steppe]

Make him past augur first 😭

[final trench]

But yea if they dont save garp the marines are getting ridiculed

[hoary steppe]

I mean u say citizen

[wide star]

the world don’t know what’s going on in Elbaf

[final trench]

He will sneak past augur

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-smoker-marines-stampede-gif-26561375

[hoary steppe]

impossible

[wide star]

getting all the citizens in the world involved is a big deal

[final trench]

“I wanna join hachinosu” 🙏🏾

[prisma yacht]

CURSED SHIT U MADE ME WATCH

[wide star]

WG got enough enemies , they don’t want all the citizens in the world coming at them too

[hoary steppe]

Its bigger deal when u have to accept bb’s offer, its literally a free pass to mariejois

[pulsar path]

It's official !

It's not even a fan edit lmao

Never watched love one-piece tho

[lofty fern]

Back when Smoker was cool 😔

[final trench]

Hopefully he’ll get justice

He’ll be on kobys side

[wide star]

it’s a not a free pass to mairjeois unless it’s the reverie and the reverie just happened and isn’t happening anytime soon …

[pulsar path]

I mean he was cool on his bike with the box of cupcakes

He still cool he's just not strong 😂😂

I think koby stronger now 😞

[lofty fern]

awwww kawaii

[hoary steppe]

It is, if his offer accepted, its literally counted as an ally of WG

[final trench]

Idk what awakened smoke will do

But i have semi hope

[pulsar path]

They re did we are with there face over NamI Luffy and usopp lol

[prisma yacht]

😭😭

[wide star]

again he doesn’t have access to mariejois unless it’s the reverie .. kings don’t just be in mariejois anytime they want … so that wouldn’t be a current worry of the WG cause it’s gonna. be years til another reverie

[tough igloo]

even if they did accept his offer , i would hope they were smart enough to be extra extra cautious wit Teach knowing the type of person he is lol i would never give him access to mariejois

[lofty fern]

You think being an ally gives you a free pass to the holy land? Even during reverie they can't really go in there

[stone terrace]

I can see becoming a member nation requires you to go to mariejois

Or its tradition

Even harald was up in there and elbaf never even got that far

[lofty fern]

I think you just get the ceremony that Stelly had, where you pledge your sword

Harald I think was there for other reasons. Maybe he actually did spend a stint of time as a slave?

Like you're technically up there for Reverie at the castle, but you can't go any farther than that

[solemn reef]

Eze hatrick

[stone terrace]

Really they just need to sneak devon in

[tough igloo]

even if Kings did go to mariejois .. if i’m the WG and i make Teach a King , i’m taking those privileges away lol

[stone terrace]

And do whatever it is that saturns visage allows

[trim lily]

surely blackbeard would never betray us a SECOND time

[tough igloo]

lmao the sad part is the WG thinks like that

[frigid gulch]

Blackbeard is a good guy

[hoary steppe]

Even if that, allowing a pirate, from davy clan, got a WG service just for Garp only sounds impossible

[hoary steppe]

I mean they could if they have crisis

[tough igloo]

have Devon transform to Saturn and act like she’s gonna execute Garp in front of the world .. maybe that’ll make the WG move faster lol

[leaden rivet]

Because Harald never seems friendly to rocks or seems happy to see him. Harald doesn’t even want to be seen around rocks because it could make Elbaf look bad.

[lofty fern]

Nah, you get your own guards to protect you

[hoary steppe]

Peak plan

[leaden rivet]

Oda just wrote their relationship weirdly and then suddenly they’re close friends

[alpine trench]

they've always been close, its just that it took harald seeing rocks' death to actually let it sink in

[hoary steppe]

But they have the WG services, dressrosa for example, fujitora was sent bcz its WG territory

[grand flower]

Yup

[final trench]

Indeed

[grand flower]

Cause despite everything, Harald kept meeting with Rocks

He kept sharing meals with him

[lofty fern]

They'd just jam the broadcast and say everything was fake including Garp

[grand flower]

Harald never stopped Rocks from being around his lover or his children

[frigid gulch]

It’s not like we saw every meeting

[grand flower]

Clearly what's happening is that the grief of Rocks' death set into Harald how much he and Rocks were actually friends

[frigid gulch]

Plus Harald said he wavered when the gov told him to kill Rocks

[alpine trench]

its adequate enough for us to see and feel for harald mourning rocks' death

[grand flower]

The same thing happened when Big Mom was thrown from Onigashima

[lofty fern]

What does that have do with letting people into the holy land?

[grand flower]

He starts crying and, in that moment, goes "i've known that old bag for a long time, now that I think about it"

[ornate tartan]

👀

[tough igloo]

it’ll just be another egghead situation .. by the time they stop the broadcast the world will have already saw Garp captured by a Gorosei lol and dive even deeper into chaos than it already is lol

[ornate tartan]

i’m glad ppl understand

[ornate tartan]

couple days ago ppl was calling Ida evil😂😂😂😂😂

[grand flower]

I try to remember these characters are meant to be people lol

[alpine trench]

i think rocks and harald had a more earnest and trust filled relationship than kaido and big mom for sure but its a similar vibe

[ornate tartan]

evil for making someone a kinder person

[grand flower]

Yeah, it's the same idea

[ornate tartan]

ts had me weak

[grand flower]

It took losing Rocks for Harald to sit back and realize just how close they were

[tough igloo]

lol let’s blame the innocent woman who wanted harald to stop being on demon time instead of anybody else

[grand flower]

Rocks knew Harald for years, after all

[alpine trench]

also interesting to see the contrast between oden and roger and seeing how oden reacted to roger's death

[hoary steppe]

Wg territory have special treatments, like they can contact WG it self if its an urgent cause, after all its an allies to WG

[alpine trench]

same sort of relationship, of brotherly love

[grand flower]

That scene of Harald losing himself to violence out of grief was so good man

[alpine trench]

and oden being proud of what roger accomplished in death and also being in grief

[tough igloo]

facts knew him longer than his own crew

[lofty fern]

Yeah, that doesn't include being let into the Holy land, we've already seen that's the case

[leaden rivet]

We didn’t need to, I just think we needed to see them actually liking each other

[hoary steppe]

What if nobody tried this

[leaden rivet]

For like 99% of this “friendship” it seemed one sided on Rocks part

[frigid gulch]

Maybe like one more scene but eh

[trim lily]

i wonder if their relationship would’ve been different if harald knew rocks beat his son

[alpine trench]

if they didnt like each other, rocks wouldnt have revealed his heritage to harald and harald wouldn't have received it in the way he did

[lofty fern]

they have

[grand flower]

Harald wouldn't have had Rocks around his kids and lover repeatedly

[frigid gulch]

I could gather from their fight that it was that

[hoary steppe]

He still wouldn’t care

Loki still safe

[hoary steppe]

Who?

[frigid gulch]

He also let him go to God Valley

Even though he was told to sink them

[tough igloo]

i like the difference that Teach doesn’t have a Harald so he would never have those same type of bonds to a certain friend that rocks did

[grand flower]

He did have a Harald

Whitebeard

[lofty fern]

Bonney as the Dowager queen of an allied nation could not get any further

[grand flower]

Teach just ain't shit

[tough igloo]

i don’t think WB was his harald

[alpine trench]

whitebeard?

nah

[hoary steppe]

Ohh, yes.. but still she did enter mariejois no?

[frigid gulch]

WB was pops

[stone terrace]

Rocks revealed his lineage out of desperation

[frigid gulch]

[alpine trench]

whitebeard is his father figure/object of scorn

[grand flower]

Whitebeard was undoubtedly a figure of positive influence in Teach's life

Teach just didn't give a fuck

[tough igloo]

he was always plotting on WB crew before he even joined ..he was always just using them

[hot helm]

that's harsh

[alpine trench]

is it

[grand flower]

yeah

that is harsh

[alpine trench]

yeah man

[grand flower]

i'm talking about YOU

[hoary steppe]

Cuz teach have that will of D 🗣️

[grand flower]

YOU are harsh

hee hee

[alpine trench]

yeah man i was agreeing

[grand flower]

oh shit

[steel stirrup]

Thats what happens when mfs assume shit.

Now im right and you damn skippy ima tell everyone "I told you so"

[hoary steppe]

What is happening on mariejois dawg

[grand flower]

What were you right about gang

[prisma yacht]

Harald being rocks bestie

[grand flower]

Kizaru ashed his weed in the chamber of flowers

[steel stirrup]

Mfs tried to tell me Harald didn't think of Rocks as a friend

[ornate tartan]

they burning😭😭

[hoary steppe]

Pack that 800yo greens

[ornate tartan]

no idea who’s doing it

it could be 3 different ppl

[steel stirrup]

Come to find out Harald considered bro his best friend

[grand flower]

Ohh well hmm

It’s kinda nuanced

[prisma yacht]

I want it to be Blackbeard

[hoary steppe]

Aint no way mariejois struggling with Revs 😭

[grand flower]

Harald is definitely portrayed as keeping rocks at a distance

He openly says rocks is doomed to fail and doesn’t let him in the castle

But also, he lets his kids around rocks still

[stone terrace]

Rocks was being lied on

[grand flower]

So the subtlety was there

[stone terrace]

A lot of people here need to work for morgans

[prisma yacht]

Who's the 3rd?

[frigid gulch]

I could understand prior to their fight. But during their fight, it was clear he was a friend

[hoary steppe]

Bb/revs/ mosa

[steel stirrup]

Yes but that's still friendship.

Its like when you grow older you still may have a friend from childhood but they went down a certain path and you went down a certain path so you move a bit away from each other that doesn't mean that the friendship is null and void

[frigid gulch]

It didn’t mean Harald didn’t think Rocks’ goal was crazy tho

That’s why he says he was doomed

[urban lodge]

It's more like Harald realizing he did like Rocks after all

[ornate tartan]

revs BB Pirates or

King got homesick and he wants to go back to his original hometown

[fervent fable]

Don kreig save us 💔

[urban lodge]

You can't deny it was mostly portrayed as one sided

[grand flower]

Someone dropped a great analogy

[ornate tartan]

nah i’m trollin😂

[prisma yacht]

Bruh 😂😂

[grand flower]

It’s like a childhood friend that never escaped the streets

[ornate tartan]

King is still in bandages

[hoary steppe]

Sadly he have to “saved” his ppl 😔

[steel stirrup]

Because he didn't immediately dive into the heist with Rocks they assume he didnt like him at all but just because he refused to help him with a losing fight does not mean he didn't care for him

[stone terrace]

I dont think it was that one sided

[alpine trench]

this is crazy

[grand flower]

Now he’s asking you to skip your 9-5 to hit a lick with him

That may still be your boy

[stone terrace]

That being said I didnt think he'd be his greatest friend

[frigid gulch]

Yep

[grand flower]

But you got kids and a mortgage now

[steel stirrup]

Exactly

That's still ya boy

But you cant fw bro no more cause prison is always a possibility

[stone terrace]

Something something its lonely at the top only someone strong understands

[steel stirrup]

Doesn't mean you don't still have love in your heart for him

[grand flower]

Yeah exactly

[hot helm]

why does IMU give a shit about the CDs?

[grand flower]

Harald had an entire country and a family to prioritize

[final trench]

He’ll slide soon

[frigid gulch]

Harald was the king

[hoary steppe]

What if harald didn’t know imu existance???

[frigid gulch]

So he couldn’t just go with him

[grand flower]

I’m pretty sure he doesn’t

[final trench]

He doesnt

They’re scapegoats

[steel stirrup]

But as a man with priorities (i.e. an entire country to run) he can't jump back off the porch anymore

[prisma yacht]

Why wld he know about imu

[hoary steppe]

Bro definitely would be so mad WG has a king

[final trench]

He’ll know soon

💔💔💔

[grand flower]

https://youtu.be/uoSwekbrnkY?si=mvmpmRW7Ci7GRR85

[hoary steppe]

Idk, xebec spill the tea or smth

[hot helm]

the slave piece is real

[final trench]

What in the fuck is this thumbnail

[steel stirrup]

I don't think Harald knows about Imu at this particular point in time unless Oda skipped a meeting

[final trench]

And why is luffy carlton

[grand flower]

Peak

[grand flower]

Lmaoooo

[fervent fable]

When two frauds mihawk and garling would clash, the split sky would join

[sage temple]

I wish I had a dad like Xebec ngl

[frigid gulch]

Oda implying Rocks is a good guy like Shanks?

[left dove]

wista laughed.

[tough igloo]

lmao

[steel stirrup]

LMAOOO

[tough igloo]

lmao if only rocks was as nice of a guy as shanks is

[steel stirrup]

I could've rubbed that in too but I let it go

[frigid gulch]

Penny won’t let this slide

[fervent fable]

What if shanks was meant to be joyboy

[sage temple]

No dad

Not dead

[tough igloo]

Rocks : you too weak to join my crew

Shanks : your so weak that you can join my fleet and ill protect you

[hoary steppe]

Bro…

[final trench]

Unironically i think trollda will have mihawk mid diff shamrock

[steel stirrup]

As soon as everyone saw Rocks hoping for Garp and Roger to be okay and saw how Loki loved bro i remember thinking "Penny is gonna hate this"

[final trench]

If he doesnt die zoro

[hoary steppe]

Mihawk would eat that 3headed dog

[sage temple]

True

[final trench]

Dies from peak

Never fear, haki man is here

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-one-piece-anime-one-piece-animated-gifs-one-piece-red-haired-shanks-vs-eustass-captain-kidd-one-piece-whanks-gif-13460121518981160116

[hoary steppe]

Top 10 shamrock feats:

1). Beat a chained up loki
2).

[tough igloo]

thinking about these legends in the new era where piracy was ramped up x100 , that would be funny lol

[steel stirrup]

2). TBA

[hoary steppe]

We never know 🗣️

[stone terrace]

Shanks and rocks

[final trench]

2. Cerberus sword

[fervent fable]

Did zoro see mihawk painting his sword from his left eye therefore cut it to forget this ever happened

[ornate tartan]

https://x.com/dawnstussy/status/1992658420848353338?s=46

Stussy Sama - Dawn&Dusk (@DawnStussy)

Narration (Chapter 1086)
“Figarland Garling: A champion who played a major role on the land known as God Valley.”

And it’s true — The fact Garling brought Shanks into the world at God Valley is easily one of the biggest achievements in the entire One Piece story.

X · Nov 23, 2025, 6:16 PM

[steel stirrup]

Coming soon head ass😭😭

[sage temple]

Loki technically tanked a named attack from Shamrock

Dude is pathetic

[ornate tartan]

that is not a named attack😂

[alpine trench]

lol

[steel stirrup]

Scramble huh

[sage temple]

"Scramble"

[steel stirrup]

😂

[hoary steppe]

Barely a feats 😭 thats minimum power

[stone terrace]

How did he tank it

[frigid gulch]

That was kinda crazy

[stone terrace]

Yall say anything is a tank

😭

[frigid gulch]

He separated the heads

[wide star]

Roger : “ damn I have to actually defeat all these top tiers to be Pirate King ?! I can’t just get on my hands & knees to beg WB again ?! “ lol

[steel stirrup]

That's the neat part

[hoary steppe]

I mean bro was chained up

[rose rune]

man just left his sword and Loki got stabbed by it

[prisma yacht]

Lmaoo

[hoary steppe]

He literally cant move

[grand flower]

Man

[steel stirrup]

LMAOOO

[grand flower]

I love Garling

What a pure source of joy

[sage temple]

He had no Haki, no Devil Fruit, no protection, he clearly survived it and had enough strength to set Elbaph aflame

[grand flower]

This nigga fuckin SUCKS

[sage temple]

That's what I see as tanking

[steel stirrup]

LMAOOO

Bruh

Oda had me thinking bro would be a problem

[grand flower]

Garling really pulled up with back up to execute a dying paralyzed man

[distant vine]

Cool art

[steel stirrup]

BLOOD

[hoary steppe]

Bro barely can move

Shamrock: SCRAMBLE 🗣️

[wide star]

Garling gotta have PTSD every time he sees Teach face in the papers lol

[sage temple]

In the Air Force, "scramble" means to launch military aircraft, typically fighter jets, as quickly as possible to respond to an immediate threat or emergency.

In this context, Shamrock said "Scramble" to launch his dogs, specifically at Loki

[wide star]

“ Rocks is back ?!! “ 🤦🏾‍♂️😂

[stone terrace]

Who was the one crying over the crescent moon

Other way around pal

[hoary steppe]

Icon bullying a kid

[wide star]

lmao no way you think that’s cause of Garling even though Teach was long gone from the island by then 😂😂🤦🏾‍♂️

[grand flower]

Garling when the opponent has Haki

[steel stirrup]

Imagine needing two wings to execute a man with 1 health point left

[hoary steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-rayleigh-crying-tears-silvers-rayleigh-gif-16468393557576367724

[rose rune]

man left his sword behind, said scramble and loki managed to get stabbed by it

[steel stirrup]

PROTECT YA NECK

[distant vine]

People call Zoro the dumbest while Luffy burns his hand trying to eat sweet potato 🤔

[sage temple]

His sword wasn't left behind, his dogs were. This alone invalidates this message I'm afraid

Nice try tho

[grand flower]

The dogs are his sword

He says so himself

[steel stirrup]

The fact that Oda left out Robin and Franky and Brook is pmo

[grand flower]

East Blue five only it seems

[sage temple]

The dog is Cerberus

Which is what's left behind

[grand flower]

Which shamrock says “is my sword”

[sage temple]

The sword itself is kept with him

[ornate tartan]

east blue 5 with the usual chopper addition

[stone terrace]

While zoro is burning his mouth...

[steel stirrup]

Oda thinks he's slick giving Nami a sheep wool hat

[distant vine]

To make it fair he probably should have cut out Sanji, to make it the SH's that Tama and Yamato know

[sage temple]

Yeah, referring to what he's holding

[strong wadi]

People say Zoro has the highest pain tolerance but we can clearly see he is struggling to eat the hot food. Usopp > Chopper > Nami all clearing him in a pain contest

[grand flower]

No it was in reference to the dogs

The dog is his sword

Csuse ya know

The sword turned into the dog lmao

[steel stirrup]

If Toei gets their hands on this i shudder to think what they would do to Sanji

[strong wadi]

Also Otama is holding the food no problem, otama > luffy is crazy

[distant vine]

Its not stupid to eat hot food

Well, not necessarily...

[sage temple]

What exactly quantifies a sword though

[grand flower]

I’m bouta make some money

[urban lodge]

Bro is self reacting

[rose rune]

so it wasn't a named attack from shamrock. it was his dog

[grand flower]

Broke ass 🫵🏾😂

[distant vine]

Reading VIZ now

[hoary steppe]

What the hell is this random otama glaze ?? Smh tama fans gas up anything ngl

[distant vine]

Rocks was very casual about dying lol

[sage temple]

The dogs are his weapon

Along with his sword

[stone terrace]

Its setting in that his fam is dead

[stone terrace]

He probably lost the will to live

[grand flower]

Same thing

[sage temple]

Thats how I see it at least

Some of us aren't blessed with this level of intelligence yall stay safe tho

[hoary steppe]

Imagine he didnt know his fam didnt survive

[grand flower]

Nigga included himself

[final trench]

Then his son gets cut by teach

[hoary steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/young-dabo-gif-25836405

[final trench]

Oh man ik he was pissed

[grand flower]

Said “we yes WE arent that smart”

[rose rune]

so if Mohji told Richie to scramble it would count as a named attack from Mohji, not Richie

[strong wadi]

She can hold a hot potato and luffy can't.

[distant vine]

Nah he wanted to, he just saw the Low Tier Knights arrive and realized its over

[stone terrace]

"Teach, you must live!!!!!"

[final trench]

Maybe shamrock was in that room 😭

[sweet anvil]

Can’t be talking about me tho ✌️

[final trench]

Shamrock; alright yall niggas gotta do something about blackbeard i dont wanna get low diffed

[wet condor]

This would've been better

[hoary steppe]

Hm good point.. but she is a dango 👆

[grand flower]

“Bruh I’m bouta be too 10 in the next popularity poll and GARLING bouta kill me??”

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/ina-memes-sad-spongebob-gif-5907655025106997236

[hoary steppe]

Did he know ??

[final trench]

When imu tells shamrock bb is attacking the holy lands

[stone terrace]

No i was saying if he did know

[urban lodge]

He's too chopped to be top 10

Maybe top 20

[sage temple]

If Mohji's attack name is scramble which consists of Richie flying into the air and attacking Loki, it's attack from Mohji

[hoary steppe]

Ohhh yea

[wide star]

i’m glad those “ Rocks soul is living inside of Blackbeard “ theories are officially done lol unless they think his soul traveled from god valley all the way to wherever Teach & Eris was 😂

[grand flower]

Getting killed by Garling gotta feel like winning the Olympics and becoming a millionaire and marrying Halle berry then dying on the toilet

[distant vine]

I have to thank you, Dragon. Because of your heroism Shanks was saved from a lifetime of dodging top tiers

[wet condor]

Ong

[rose rune]

nah, it's Richie, Mohji is just giving orders

[grand flower]

Like fuck they are

[urban lodge]

The new theory is Eris is inside BB

[grand flower]

If I got killed by Garling I’m haunting my son too

[sage temple]

Nah the order is the attack name in this sense

[grand flower]

Fuck no that’s how I’m going out

[final trench]

Bb got intune from eris and a davy

[hoary steppe]

Oh hell no

[urban lodge]

Or grafted to him like Marin's variation

[wide star]

lmao “ Blackbeard is 2 people ! Rocks & Teach “

now it’s gonna be “ Davy Jones & Eris are living inside of Blackbeard “ 😂

[hoary steppe]

NOONE INSIDE BB 😭

[left dove]

huh ?????????

[rose rune]

so named attacks are a sham?

[wide star]

lmao you right , idek why i said that ..

[rose rune]

it actually doesn't matter if they yell out the name

[final trench]

If zoro didnt catch on and only luffy, i would agree with the 3 niggas theory

[sage temple]

No, Shamrock's named attack "scramble" takes inspiration from the command "scramble" used in the air force

[final trench]

Me personally they caught on that burgess doc q and bb were all together

[rose rune]

yeah, but this proves named attacks are just bullshit

[sage temple]

How so

[wide star]

“ Teach can eat multiple fruits cause Rocks soul traveled from god valley to Teach and then Davy Jones soul was put inside of him by Eris “ lol i’m already prepared to hear that in a youtube video soon

[hoary steppe]

Man it would’ve been crazy

[barren token]

What does this mean bro

[distant vine]

Is he saying that because its such a big organization and individual motives can vary what cruelties are done or not done, he feels he can just do his own thing?

[rose rune]

well, it doesn't matter who or what does it as long as you scream out some random bullshit

[distant vine]

If Shanks grew up with Garling imagine how much nothing he'd accomplish

[steel stirrup]

Okay i was wrong they were not best friends

They were the GREATEST FRIENDS

[wide star]

i’ll never forget the “ Rocks has the ope ope cause he held up 2 fingers “ 😂 i thought it was just a troll theory until i found out some actually believed it

[sage temple]

I mean yeah that's what most named attacks are

Just random bs

[hoary steppe]

Sengoku is corrupt

[leaden rivet]

You betted on bad writing and ended up being right

[left dove]

insert that one comic panel of moon knight

[hoary steppe]

Bitch ass

[leaden rivet]

Good work

[craggy vapor]

Don Krieg upscale?

[steel stirrup]

Thank you

[barren token]

Shanks bums around 90% of the time anyway though

[rose rune]

meaning, named attacks are just as dangerous as unnamed ones

[sage temple]

Disgusting chin flaps

[stone terrace]

Whitebeard is chopped ngl

[steel stirrup]

I disagree about it being bad writing tho

[stone terrace]

Saved by luscious locks

[distant vine]

😭

[sage temple]

No, that "random bs" is what makes a named attack a named attack

[rose rune]

shamrock might as well have yelled "stab him!"

[steel stirrup]

Sengoku is trash bruh

[distant vine]

Since Sengoku is still alive, that means he did nothing wrong 👍

[stone terrace]

Sengoku knew garp was bullshitting

Cant bs a bser 😭

[hoary steppe]

*sengoku goes wrong, ohara didn’t exist

Garp never kill that man 😭

[autumn island]

Sengoku is a lackey

[distant vine]

Hey man, if it was purely up to Sengoku

[frigid gulch]

“Are you doubting the government?”

[rose rune]

anyways, sorry for teasing you, I was just having a bit of fun

[frigid gulch]

[frozen ravine]

Named attacks are stronger because it's a narrative convention

[autumn island]

This^

[distant vine]

The people of Ohara would just be forcefully displaced from their homes, but alive

[autumn island]

Bro is a pyramid seller

[steel stirrup]

Bro just apologized

[autumn island]

The Cult of the WG

[barren token]

Oda painting sengoku as a good marine is kinda weird considering the fucked up sbit he's done lol

[sage temple]

Nah it's good I know it's not a named attack 😭

[rose rune]

yeah, I don't intend to make an enemy out of anyone on purpose

[steel stirrup]

Yep

[hoary steppe]

Wasn’t he said kill everyone anybody

[autumn island]

I don’t consider Sengoku a virtuous character really

[stray prism]

boooring

[wraith mantle]

any spoilers out?

[frigid gulch]

Everyone’s good now

[steel stirrup]

Thank God

[leaden rivet]

Dont be sorry, be better

[rose rune]

get the fuck out of here you slime!!

[wraith mantle]

any news if break or no break

[distant vine]

I think he lets Sengoku stand in the middle

[stray prism]

hell yea

[frigid gulch]

No break

[distant vine]

Well, not necessarily the middle, but he's open to both positive and negative sides of the Marines

[steel stirrup]

No break

Probably tomorrow

[wraith mantle]

peak

[frigid gulch]

Too soon for spoilers

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/brainrot-ai-meme-cat-jackpot-gif-9877659808200036992

[leaden rivet]

Is Whitebeard still your favorite character

[stone terrace]

Wtf

[steel stirrup]

Thigh bro wtf

[sage temple]

How honorable and mature

[stone terrace]

WHAT THE FUCK

[steel stirrup]

WHAT IS THIS

[sage temple]

Nvm

[frigid gulch]

Me ?

[autumn island]

Is that Jabba the Tabby

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-anime-guy-lonely-anime-guy-winds-blow-by-anime-guy-sad-gif-13424156687993837135

[steel stirrup]

Someone delete it please

[stray prism]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-ai-cursed-screech-gif-13668457122322139304

[leaden rivet]

No the other guy in chat who’s favorite character is Whitebeard

[steel stirrup]

Bruh

[wraith mantle]

thighbreaker is nordic after all

[frigid gulch]

Yea the interaction doesn’t change anything for me

Even though it’s not perfect

[leaden rivet]

Imperfect hmm

Is that what you’re calling it

[left dove]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-imu-imu-one-piece-shark-eyes-gif-2911827045718414430

[steel stirrup]

Must be weird hours

[distant vine]

Damn man if this fandom was smart we could have a thoughtful conversation about how Harald's racial guilt guides his actions and how it affects the country

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-ai-sanji-dog-egghead-gif-9747162624495917649

[wraith mantle]

why do people feel the need to send weird shit

[steel stirrup]

Icon bro wtf

[distant vine]

Insane back to back messages

[left dove]

is ts peak ???

[stone terrace]

The two sides of #also-manga

[stray prism]

https://tenor.com/view/vegapunk-one-piece-ai-egghead-robot-gif-7176955061509862523

[urban lodge]

Ew

[distant vine]

Kay was funnier but this is probably better

[rose rune]

I dunno. spur of the moment

[left dove]

ai slop 💔🥀

[frigid gulch]

I feel that we can talk hypotheticals about how they shoulda noticed and stuff but the fact is, Oda didn’t really do it that way. So I think you can question that but ultimately I also do view it from how it was actually written

[stray prism]

ai is thd future

[wraith mantle]

garp cant even argue with dragon

damn bruh

[distant vine]

I wonder what Harald would think of Dorry and Broggy

[wet condor]

He said something if they get out of line, he'll rein them in

[frigid gulch]

But that’s why it’s imperfect

[wraith mantle]

imagine hearing that your dad earned the title hero of the marines after distinguishing himself in a genocide event

[leaden rivet]

So that’s how you’re coping with it. Interesting.

Thank you for the insight

[distant vine]

Anyways W chapter. I really like Harald's character, and how trapped he feels by both Elbaph's past and the present dealings with Rocks and the WG. But he still has hope for the future

[barren token]

Yeah this is definitely better lol

But kay... was so fucking funny

[distant vine]

It'll be nice seeing Hajrudin take over Elbaph, I'm way more invested now

[stone terrace]

K.

[final trench]

That was the reach of hell

[leaden rivet]

King of Elbaf can’t be a bum

[left dove]

true

[final trench]

At most i thought he had the yami because its called the most dangerous fruit

[frozen ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-ai-luffy-zoro-roronoa-zoro-gif-3117765931290086926

[final trench]

But bro was all haki

[alpine trench]

this is the same sort of reaction garp had with dadan

[frigid gulch]

He might’ve had to be a Hakiman

[final trench]

Which is understandable since DFs are supposed to be rare

[frigid gulch]

If he planned on eating that second fruit

[alpine trench]

really cool to see this be contextualized this way with dragon's foray into revolutionary activity

[frigid gulch]

Then he couldn’t eat one before

[leaden rivet]

But really tho, from a point of view of how it’s written then yes it makes sense that Whitebeard betrayed and abandoned Rocks, given he thought rocks betrayed him first

[frigid gulch]

Yea

[leaden rivet]

But I don’t really like him as a character after because his actions in the arc. But I don’t think it’s damning to him.

[frigid gulch]

But I still have an issue with that

I guess it’s fair

[stray prism]

kay...

[frigid gulch]

But to me it doesn’t spoil it enough

[leaden rivet]

My issue was just the scene of them being comrades together and fighting Imu prior, I think the story would benefit from it being removed

Rocks pirates were written up to constantly fight and betray each other

So it would be perfect for Whitebeard to not stick around if they were actually like that

But it seems at least to an extent he cared for rocks from that scene

[frigid gulch]

My take on that is, that whole thing was broken by Rocks attacking him

He was like screw you

[leaden rivet]

I don’t think that’s a take, that’s just what happened

Whitebeard as he was written believed rocks sold them out and betrayed them and went his own way

[tough igloo]

embarrassing how he didn’t notice the big wings , glowing eyes & fangs smh

[frigid gulch]

Well yea it is, which is why i don’t see the issue with that. The issue I have more stems with them maybe not questioning it more

WB in this case

[tough igloo]

and Rocks growing in size

[leaden rivet]

Mhm that’s my issue here. I tubing he should’ve made a better attempt to investigate or at least stuck around

[distant vine]

[tough igloo]

felt like Oda couldn’t think of any reason for WB to leave Rocks so just made him dumb

[wet condor]

Yea

[leaden rivet]

Because the guy youve known for years suddenly just betraying you surely leaves questions

But Whitebeard kinda just fucks off

[grand flower]

Garp is a pragmatist and I say that requires being a realist too

[stone terrace]

Either have wb get knocked out( aura loss) or have wb do something dumb (character assassination)

[frigid gulch]

But I think it also maybe screams that the bond wasn’t that tight either

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/brendan-fraser-the-whale-fix-whale-6-7-gif-14161792768231404947

[frigid gulch]

It’s hard to argue tho

When he faces off against Imu

[leaden rivet]

Yeah king

[frigid gulch]

Yea idt WB coulda been knocked out

[distant vine]

Damn I guess he really didnt know LMAO

[leaden rivet]

Which is why I think this scene shouldn’t have happened

Cause it suggests the opposite

[frigid gulch]

Oda was kinda cornered potentially

[tough igloo]

if any other crew saw their captain grow in size , grow wings and fangs with glowing eyes .. they would all know something is up and it’s not just a “betrayal”

[frigid gulch]

WB was too strong to just be one shot

But he also couldn’t be there cause Oda was tryna write a tragedy

[wet condor]

When Big Mom had some perceptive shit to say about it

And not WB

[tough igloo]

it’s even worst when you think about if WB stayed behind he could’ve possibly saved Rocks from death before HKs got to him

[wet condor]

That's how you know Oda just had to find an excuse to get his ass outta there

[frigid gulch]

The look he gives in the first panel almost made me think he thought something was up but

Not really ig

[urban lodge]

The "yesss" cracks me up

[wet condor]

Oda wanted that fight to be between Garp Roger and Xebec

Same lol

Like a snake or some shit

[distant vine]

Maybe Rocks has a demon transformation that looks really similar to Domi Reversi, have you guys considered that yet?

[stone terrace]

Polo: "That dudes no good for you. Come with me instead. I have this kid you can adopt"

[frigid gulch]

Other translations have him say “Are we in your way Rocks?”

[distant vine]

Big Mom and Kaido haven't seen it but WB just thinks Rocks is going all out

[frigid gulch]

Rocks says “youre in the way”

But then..

[wet condor]

Had to get WB out the paint somehow

[frigid gulch]

Can’t you just like step aside or some shit

I guess that’s why he attacked WB

[wide star]

🗣️ Teach did nothing wrong ! 😂

[dark nymph]

was disappointing how he didn't go after Rocks

[strong wadi]

Originally Oda was going to have WB fight Garling and have Garling give him that scar he mentions to Shanks, but since people figured that out, he decided to do this instead and slander both WB and Garling simultaneously as payback.

Source: Me who heard it from Oda himself

[leaden rivet]

Whitebeard got blasted through a mountain and took zero damage but if it was Marineford that would’ve killed him

[wide star]

left his pops to die , so his son left you to die .. well he made sure you died lol

[leaden rivet]

Like everyone and their mother knew Rocks was getting dommed by Imu and he still made it happen lol

[wet condor]

OP relationships don't make a lot of sense sometimes

Or how they be acting lol

[final trench]

Circle of life

I already know 1 fate post bb death but i wont say it now

Because ik niggas will cling onto [REDACTED]

[tough igloo]

maybe WB was partially blind in God Valley so he didn’t notice Xebec transformation lol

that’s the only excuse i can think of for him

[final trench]

Not too much to do atp

He’s already demonized

They dont know what it is

[tough igloo]

help him like his “enemies “ did

[digital spear]

Is that all we are to you, Rocks? Impediments?

Yurrr

[tough igloo]

Roger & Garp didn’t know either but they still fought against him cause like Garp said he couldn’t just let him rampage the way he is

[final trench]

They thought they were gonna kill him

[tough igloo]

WB saw his captain transform and said ight i’m out have fun Garp & Roger

[final trench]

I dont think wb would wanna kill rocks

[tough igloo]

putting him down is still helping instead of just leaving your captain like that

if WB stayed around he could’ve possibly saved Rocks life from HKs

[final trench]

Even if whitebeard stayed i doubt he could get off the island in time

It was sinking

[tough igloo]

he would’ve

ray & gaban did with roger & garp

WB could’ve too with rocks

[final trench]

Yea but he would have to grab rocks while potentially fighting the holy knights

[tough igloo]

something he could’ve done against those bums

[frigid gulch]

I don’t think Roger and Garp would normally try to kill him either

He begged them

[tough igloo]

WB has a fruit that could’ve stopped all 3 from killing rocks if he was around

but he left lol

[leaden rivet]

Rocks being alive after the fight makes it so much more bitter

[tough igloo]

and not only alive but wanting to survive smh

[frigid gulch]

I’m sure that’s what Oda was aiming for

[tough igloo]

fuck Newgate lol

[frigid gulch]

[tough igloo]

good job Teach lol

[frigid gulch]

To make it a tragedy

[prisma yacht]

Whitebeard is the goat

[frigid gulch]

There was a difference between WB and the other members

[prisma yacht]

Imagine hating on him

[frigid gulch]

That’s why Rocks attacked WB

[leaden rivet]

Blackbeard was only getting back for his dad

He did nothing wrong

[tough igloo]

with the type of man WB was built up to be by Oda .. him doing what he did in GV just doesn’t sit right

[frigid gulch]

You needed more of a reason to have WB leave

[hoary steppe]

Since when ure bb fan 😭

[ornate tartan]

what did he do if u don’t mind me askin

[tough igloo]

leaving Rocks so easily without even trying

[leaden rivet]

Since before you were born

[tough igloo]

kaido & big mom leaving is in character for them so that’s not surprising .. but Newgate !!

[ornate tartan]

yeah that wasn’t good but then again I don’t think WB was as fond of Rocks as u guys are trying to make it seem

[leaden rivet]

Blackbeard has been my favorite character for like the longest time

[pine ridge]

yeah they were never a real crew

[hoary steppe]

Idonno u glaze him like i do

[tough igloo]

WB was willing to fight alongside rocks against a monster stronger than all of them but wasn’t willing to stay with rocks when he got transformed lol

[pine ridge]

rocks didnt even tell them the real reason he went to god valley

[leaden rivet]

I don’t “glaze” characters like that really

[wet condor]

Shit just weird lol

[frigid gulch]

Im def not saying he was best friends with Rocks

[hoary steppe]

Naur this is glazing

[leaden rivet]

He could’ve at least stuck around

[leaden rivet]

That was a joke

[wet condor]

Like what WB did in the real world is what you'd expect out of your best friend lol

[frigid gulch]

But I think there was a level of respect

[hoary steppe]

?!

[leaden rivet]

Blackbeard betraying Whitebeard has nothing to do with rocks obviously lol

[vernal ravine]

i think the problem is people think rocks had whitebeard or kaido as friends, his only friend was harald

[hoary steppe]

Good df , what can i say

[wet condor]

And then he can't figure out what happened to Xebec and just leaves lol

[frigid gulch]

It’s why he offered help to him. But again, that’s why Rocks was written to attack him

[prisma yacht]

Wb fought imu was only bcs of his honour

[hoary steppe]

I wonder how bb understands his body can handle 2 DF

[tough igloo]

lmao if Xebec didn’t physically change and it was just mentally then yeah i can excuse WB , but this man had a whole ass transformation that he never had the 10 years he was with WB lol smh

[wet condor]

Yeah I rationalize it like that

[ornate tartan]

u understand what i’m trying to say