also-manga

[hot cairn]

then what

[steel stirrup]

If Luffy even lands a punch on Imu that will confirm that BB is the final villain because wtf is the point of building this mf up

[urban lodge]

Whose body is Imu in

[ornate tartan]

yall gonna crash out when he actually damages Imu once😂

[ashen perch]

Imu is probably calling Luffy that, its his nickname for Luffy

[sage temple]

No he doesn't

[runic dock]

I wonder if he sees their inherited will lol probably not but it’s funny to think he has inherited will vision

[sage temple]

[frigid gulch]

They simply remind Imu of those figures

[steel stirrup]

Nah I'll celebrate with cake and ice cream and Zaza blunts because that means BB is definitely the final villain lmaooo

[frigid gulch]

So he calls them those names

[ashen perch]

don't crash out when it happens

[hot cairn]

ahh right LOL I forgot

[runic dock]

Makes sense for an immortal being

[sage temple]

For every reason Loki would get DR'ed there's 2 reasons he wouldn't

[runic dock]

You’re gonna see copycats time to time

[sage temple]

Wanna bet?

[pine ridge]

what 800 years of doomscrolling bounty posters does to a mf

[steel stirrup]

Don't do it, Bloodbath

[ashen perch]

Okay yeah, I'll bet a 72h mute on this

[sage temple]

I already bet against Icon

[ashen perch]

I can take it

[hot cairn]

you should support that theory that would be cool af

[sage temple]

Alright bet

[hot cairn]

Luffy vs Loki

[ashen perch]

Alright

[steel stirrup]

Damn 72 hours bro might fuck around and find a life by then

[leaden rivet]

Contextually it’s not about Saturn failing to capture Imu, it’s about Joyboy, we know that he was ordered to destroy Emeth but he disobeyed orders and that resulted in the haki rope being used and Imu being piped

[hot cairn]

dawg, Luffy aint ever getting one shotted again lol

[ashen perch]

Screencapped it, 72h mute for Socrates if Loki gets Domi'd, 72h mute for me if not

[leaden rivet]

Luffy*

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/druski-holding-laugh-holding-laugh-holding-laughter-trying-not-to-laugh-gif-14728402291966348228

[runic dock]

RIP Socrates

[sage temple]

It won't happen

I don't care

[runic dock]

Let’s see if you understand the trajectory of Lokis character arc

[steel stirrup]

You know I'm joking King

That shit funny tho

[ashen perch]

I have a job I will be fine, missing 72 hours on Discord is very easy

Not that I will need to though but still

[frigid gulch]

Socrates reaction to Demon Loki

[leaden rivet]

Your job is here, keeping the discord streets safe of course

[steel stirrup]

You aint gotta explain shit to us

[urban lodge]

Loki will get to show off for exactly 2 chapters before he inevitably gets domi reversi'd

[frigid gulch]

Soon

[sage temple]

That was a good one im ngl

[hot cairn]

dude so you can make bets with everyone else but me huh

[sage temple]

Buddy Loki is giving Funko straight belt

[steel stirrup]

You dont gotta explain yourself to us

[ashen perch]

This is a safe bet

I take safe bets

[urban lodge]

He's going extreme diff against demon Dorry and you will like it

[steel stirrup]

BORING

[sage temple]

Yeah safe for me

[runic dock]

72hrs might be enough time for Socrates to find a new fav character by then

[sage temple]

You're gone Arsal

[hot cairn]

so you're afraid of me, that's what you're saying

[ashen perch]

I'll take a bet on like Hachinosu War, thats ultra safe because its happening

[hot cairn]

[steel stirrup]

LMAOOOOO

[sage temple]

Maybe if I were SB

[steel stirrup]

Bro got em mixed up

[runic dock]

True you’re not as fickle

[ashen perch]

Or like Elbaf being a ~100 chapters, also happening

[runic dock]

Bro changes his mind like underwear

[steel stirrup]

What we gon do about bro

[sage temple]

Thank you please don't compare me with sb

Extreme insult

I'm the loyalest to Loki one can be

[steel stirrup]

Sb is hilarious

[ashen perch]

I'm scared of bad bets, I have suffered a few smh

[hot cairn]

LOL

[leaden rivet]

Sócrates what will be your new personality once Loki becomes irrelevant after Elbaf

[sage temple]

He won't

[steel stirrup]

You ain't shit😭😭

[formal wagon]

[hot cairn]

Socrates is just a user of the season

[pine ridge]

so once a month or so

[runic dock]

Me before the Yamato tattoo

[sage temple]

Loki is more relevant than half of the strawhat crew after Elbaph

[hot cairn]

he'll be gone when elbaph ends

[ornate tartan]

that’s a hot take

[frigid gulch]

Speaking of Sb

[steel stirrup]

Oooh he talking his shit now

[frigid gulch]

Did he speak here yet

[ashen perch]

Lodestar character who was uh captured by Kaido or something who is secretly as powerful as him, that's his next personality

[sage temple]

Loki is a lot more important than Yamato

[urban lodge]

Not yet

[steel stirrup]

Not that I've seen

[urban lodge]

Was he in spoilers?

[distant vine]

Dumbasses dont know its November

[frigid gulch]

Maybe tmrw

[steel stirrup]

No

[runic dock]

Probably , it’s a funny joke to make for now tho

[frigid gulch]

Nah

[opal gull]

[ornate tartan]

sb is busy doing research on his next goat

[steel stirrup]

Type shit

[ashen perch]

He's in mourn

[steel stirrup]

Mourning my ass

[urban lodge]

Sb will find a new goat in a week, it's fine

[steel stirrup]

He switched up immediately

[hot cairn]

socrates wont be active when Loki stays in Elbaph

[sage temple]

Loki has

Mural
Special Eyes
Legendary Devil Fruit
Rocks D Xebec relations
Special Bounty
Prophecy Centered on Him
Special Lighting Hammer

[opal gull]

who was his previous GOAT?

[urban lodge]

Rocks

[sage temple]

Yamato is just a Oden fan

[runic dock]

Calculating the hype levels of the last chapter to see who he lands on

[steel stirrup]

He aint mourning a damn thing

[ashen perch]

Singing "We are Rocks D Xebec, we carryy the flames" last I checked

[frigid gulch]

Good panel

[hot cairn]

(imagine he actually joins the crew LOL)

[opal gull]

Rocks is still a GOAT

hahaha

[steel stirrup]

True

[pine scaffold]

Why do I open chat to everyone talking about me

[sage temple]

Tough Love

[pine scaffold]

🤔

[ashen perch]

But yes, it'll take him a while he'll get over it

[sage temple]

Rocks was always protective about Loki

[steel stirrup]

He was really Loki's Shanks bruh thats wild

[urban lodge]

Melontee will take this as confirmation that he was doing it to protect him

[frigid gulch]

Thoughts on Rocks death

[ashen perch]

Oh he's here

[blazing depot]

Ageist

[wet condor]

That ain't being protective lol

[steel stirrup]

We knew you was coming

[wet condor]

He just thinks Loki will be a burden

[runic dock]

Oh goodness

[sage temple]

Who? SB?

[runic dock]

[ashen perch]

Yeah

[pine scaffold]

I have thoughts, but Idk if I want to share

[steel stirrup]

LMAOOOOOOO

😭😭

[sage temple]

He was protecting Loki from God Valley

[steel stirrup]

MelonTee gon take this to the Moon

[runic dock]

Bro stfu he stabbed him to near death 😭

[wet condor]

That's not in character for Rocks lol

[hot cairn]

LOL

[sage temple]

Loki has also experienced fighting against an abyss user before

[pine scaffold]

I didn't read spoilers this week

[opal gull]

Tho its lame he got beaten by Imu without even a good fight, Imu has some kind of durability bypass attack that he/she can use, pretty lame tbh

[sage temple]

Near death and he's literally fine the next day

[ashen perch]

Wait I thought it was Melontree for some reason

[wet condor]

Rocks doesn't care about protecting that boy. He's just a burden

[hot cairn]

I cant wait to see her reaction to the Garp stuff

[steel stirrup]

Wyt about the chapter

[urban lodge]

Everyone does for some reason

But it's tee

[hot cairn]

share them

[royal orchid]

I didn't read the chapter this week

[pine scaffold]

I don't wanna say 💀 💀

[runic dock]

Bruh

[sage temple]

Loki is the son Rocks never had

[ashen perch]

It might be her name on somewhere idk

[steel stirrup]

You Garling agenda now?

Come on with it

[pine scaffold]

Hell nah

nope

[runic dock]

Sb who’s your goat of the week?

Or day?

[frigid gulch]

What are you thoughts on Rocks’ color scheme

[sage temple]

Who will it be today Sb

[pine scaffold]

Rocks still

[opal gull]

Garling is a fraud

[pine scaffold]

peak

[opal gull]

just like the Gorosei

[steel stirrup]

Shit go ahead and say

[pine scaffold]

its Rocks still

[ashen perch]

Sb is joining the Shanks agenda in T-6 chapters

[leaden rivet]

WG so far seems to be a bunch of nepo babies

[frigid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/elbaph-rocks-rocks-one-piece-rocks-d-xebec-xebec-gif-7921250111547198384

[opal gull]

Your GOAT?

[runic dock]

It confirms Buggy is Blackbeard’s full on brother , not even half brother

[hot cairn]

if you didnt like it you can say it

[sage temple]

Dang I was betting on Shanks or Garling

[steel stirrup]

ROCKS THE GOATTTTT

YESSSIRRRR

[wet condor]

You know I just started laughing

[urban lodge]

Shanks fan Sb would be fun

[sage temple]

Has Sb repeated his goat before?

Or does Sb use each character once

Like disposable wipes

[wet condor]

Because I realize that Harald is crying tears for Rocks completely ignorant that Rocks impaled his son on a sword

LMAOOOOO

[opal gull]

I want to see Shanks again

[steel stirrup]

He went back to Imu for a sec

[blazing depot]

Diabolical

[wet condor]

Oda is funny man

[royal orchid]

guys what's the name for when a part of your chest or arm or leg is like pulsating
it's not itching but you can just feel it constantly

[runic dock]

Harald be ignorant of a lot of things regarding loki

[opal gull]

twitch?

[ashen perch]

Was gonna say

[steel stirrup]

Throbbing?

[pine ridge]

just wait until we get a current time garling fight

[urban lodge]

Loki is to blame for all this

[sage temple]

Harald was a deadbeat for Loki

[steel stirrup]

A twitch?

[hot cairn]

this happened already

[sage temple]

Yep it's his curse

[olive sigil]

It’s called go see a doctor

[frigid gulch]

It was bad but it seems like Rocks stopped doing it

[sage temple]

Loki is already accursed

[ashen perch]

He's not aware of a lot of things when it comes to Loki lol

[stone terrace]

Wasnt a deadbeat

But inattentive yes

[urban lodge]

Yeah but only for like a day

[sage temple]

Harald was a deadbeat

Dude picked his son up and left

😭

[steel stirrup]

Huh?

[ornate tartan]

bro cooked 🔥

[sage temple]

Yeah maybe not to Hajrudin

[steel stirrup]

LMAOOOOOO

[sage temple]

He had a soft spot for the weak one

[royal orchid]

maybe? but that word is funny

[olive sigil]

He’s a translator

[frigid gulch]

Unironically.. Loki challenging him may be why he did that.. even though he went too far

[steel stirrup]

Pulsating but not itchy

Is it numb?

[pine scaffold]

Garling didnt kill Rocks, it was WB for abandoning him.

Rocks went back to normal after the attack, if WB just stayed and was loyal to his captain he would have survived.

But instead he died all alone, thinking he killed his entire family and his crew all abandoning him (including WB), the most morbid scene I have ever seen in a manga.

[ashen perch]

Bro did you see the holes

[leaden rivet]

What are you guys talking about

[olive sigil]

That’s a weird thing to say about a father

[ashen perch]

Like last chapter??

[olive sigil]

Why would a father care if his son is strong or not

[leaden rivet]

Ignoring the obvious bait last sentence I agree

[ashen perch]

"he would have survived" no the fuck he wouldn't have 🙂‍↕️

[opal gull]

yeah man

Rocks was the only real one till the end

[runic dock]

Harald didn’t even recognize his own son was being abused in more ways that one by people he assigned to him , I’ll just skip the middle ground and call him a deadbeat

[opal gull]

[steel stirrup]

Like you feel the blood pumping thru it or is it painful pulsating

[royal orchid]

no I can feel it just fine it's like a spirally feeling that just goes around the area in a circle, also happens in the middle of your forehead

[frigid gulch]

Those holes and cuts didn’t remain

[wet condor]

WB killed Rocks

[leaden rivet]

If Whitebeard stayed and helped rocks definitely would be alive

[frigid gulch]

It’s just a visual

[runic dock]

WB and the rest also thought rocks betrayed them

[frigid gulch]

On his demon form

[wet condor]

Let's get that going on agenda piece

[pine scaffold]

WB is dead to me as a character

[stone terrace]

Whitebeard is lucky he didnt have to deal with garling

[urban lodge]

Lmaoooooooo

[stone terrace]

😤

[pine ridge]

aight, wb> rocks

[steel stirrup]

Spiritually your Chakras are opening

Medically idk

[stone terrace]

Notis off

[royal orchid]

I think pulsating is the word though thanks

[leaden rivet]

I’ve disowned WB. He no longer means anything to me.

[sage temple]

I didn't say he cared

[pine scaffold]

I cant believe Oda made it so Rocks went back to normal afterwards

[runic dock]

Cause then he would have given him some chest scars right?

[sage temple]

I'm giving Hajrudin a label

[pine scaffold]

I was fine if Rocks just died after the attack

[sage temple]

The weak one

[runic dock]

Right???

[opal gull]

WB started this whole "family" shit cause he feels guilty for abandoning Rocks

[steel stirrup]

Yea that surprised me

[harsh lantern]

Top 10 strongest in one piece oat:
Joyboy
Imu
Roger
Rocks
Garp
Dragon
Mihawk
Whitebeard
Shanks
Blackbeard

[wet condor]

Didn't you say you don't like Rocks?

[frigid gulch]

I mean I’m satisfied cause I wanted Rocks to have some last words or reflect

[ashen perch]

Why wouldn't they, we know he didn't regenerate because he was lying helpless on the ground, you think Garling would have gotten him if he had the capacity to do anything?

[ornate tartan]

Sb wasgood, we not rocking with WB nomore?

[pine scaffold]

but the fact he went back to normal, meaning WB could have came and saved him...

[sage temple]

Roger over Rocks 💔

[leaden rivet]

I’ve never said I disliked rocks lol

[steel stirrup]

Did Roger and Garp break the curse with their Haki?

[hot cairn]

LMAO

[leaden rivet]

Why does everyone think this

[steel stirrup]

Thats wild if they did

[stone terrace]

See what whitebeard did was some fuck shit, ill say it straight

[runic dock]

They were all long gone by then but yeah…

[stone terrace]

But i am going to pretend it didnt happen

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/zoro-waterfall-meditation-training-zoro-waterfall-meditation-gif-10425591208689344553

[stone terrace]

Oda made an error

[frigid gulch]

Because we see it. One of his legs is cut apart by Roger’s attack but is completely normal in this chapter

[stone terrace]

👍

[runic dock]

Same thing kaido and Bm did because they all assumed the same , he betrayed them

[royal orchid]

oda is wrong and god valley is thriller bark actually

[opal gull]

The same shit will happen to BB, his crew will leave him as well

[frigid gulch]

He was still essentially paralyzed by their attacks

[steel stirrup]

Yeah probably

[pine scaffold]

if Oda actually made a valid excuse to remove WB from the battlefield, it'd be good

but now it seems extremely forced and unrealistic

[ashen perch]

Its just hidden I'm sure, gotta wait for better scans too

[steel stirrup]

Bro got sent into a mountain and said "guess I'm done"

[runic dock]

Yes , the reason was he thought he got betrayed by his captain

Man just reread

[frigid gulch]

It’s not hidden

lol

[opal gull]

Luffy is the only one that has a crew he can rely on and will be the one to win against LeImuClown

as compared to Rocks and BB

[hot cairn]

why

[wet condor]

I'm more upset about them not further questioning it

[urban lodge]

Sb realizing maybe God Valley wasn't actually that good

[ashen perch]

Im looking at him rn and eh

[pine scaffold]

I refuse to believe WB thought Rocks was normal as he charged at him 10x the size, with huge wings

[steel stirrup]

Bruh

[pine scaffold]

and the most zombie-like ''yes'' ever

[steel stirrup]

YESSSSSSSS

[ornate tartan]

😂

[opal gull]

WB isnt that smart tbh

[runic dock]

Kaido Bm and wb all thought rocks betrayed them , they didn’t understand domi reversi , that’s the only way you explain those actions and it makes perfect sense , what you’re describing is a generic power up like any other

[pine scaffold]

This is extremely unfortunate

[runic dock]

Reading comprehension is lacking

[royal orchid]

realizing God Valley was a setup arc for Blackbeard and Kuma/Ginny

[opal gull]

or I mean, intellignet

[runic dock]

Severely

[pine ridge]

or maybe rocks should've given his crew a reason to trust him

[runic dock]

As always with sb

[ornate tartan]

@pine scaffold who has higher Iq WB or Luffy

[ashen perch]

Its this simple

[hot cairn]

yeah

[pine scaffold]

Yeah now that it's all wrapped up, I reread everything and was disappointed

[steel stirrup]

Bro is a lost cause

[pine scaffold]

the WB stuff is the biggest problem for me

[runic dock]

Literally how do you explain that? Thats how , that’s also why they never fucking talked about it after

[urban lodge]

You were blinded by the Rocks hype

[sage temple]

Over under 5.5 chapters before you get a new goat

[runic dock]

Sb never understands subtexts

At all

[frigid gulch]

Literally cut above the knee

[opal gull]

tbh Rocks deserved a better ending than just simply being one shot by Imu using some wierd hax attack

bad ending to the arc, what a shame

[pine scaffold]

ngl WB may have deserved it in the end, BB came for revenge

[ashen perch]

BM points out if the dark thing did something to him and then asks him if he is betraying her, thats the thing they are all thinking I think

[steel stirrup]

LMAOOOOO

[pine scaffold]

WB the traitor

[royal orchid]

god valley was fun but I know a lot of people were expecting full chapters for each big battle there

[runic dock]

Grow a brain

[steel stirrup]

THERES MY BOY

[frigid gulch]

Those didn’t actually tear him apart

It’s just a visual

[wet condor]

Wb Big Mom and Kaido?

[frigid gulch]

Like for regen

[steel stirrup]

LMAOOOO

[sage temple]

Dang you hate wb now?

[ashen perch]

I thought some of that could be his coat but true, he did regenerate a bit but he just can't move I guess

[wet condor]

It doesn't take much in this fandom lol

[pine scaffold]

Well Oda did character assassination

if u know what that is

[frigid gulch]

I don’t believe he has regen

[sage temple]

Ah I see

[steel stirrup]

Socrates going back to dig for evidence is wild

[frigid gulch]

But yea

[opal gull]

after seeing the true face of WB, sb has decided to switch parties

[frigid gulch]

He is essentially too damaged to move

Paralyzed

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/let-it-go-elsa-disney-disney-princess-queen-gif-3597315

[runic dock]

@pine scaffold

[sage temple]

I didn't go back for evidence I have a file for Sb

[steel stirrup]

Not the ping😭😭

[steel stirrup]

Oh nah😭😭

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/speechless-smoking-man-old-man-smoking-old-guy-smoking-old-man-cigarette-gif-16836230630449212567

[runic dock]

Bro can’t read the manga or the chat

[ashen perch]

They think he joined up with Imu, that's what I believe is the case

[runic dock]

Totally lost

[pine scaffold]

BM noticed what happened to Rocks, she even said ''what did that thing do to you????''

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/aww-hell-nahh-aww-hell-aww-hell-nahh-gif-9659330954843262630

[wet condor]

If you're a character who's obviously framed as being decent, you CAN'T make any mistakes. Your actions are heavily scrutinized

[pine scaffold]

Usopp also noticed what was wrong with Dorry/broggy

[stone terrace]

Yea but i expect that from them

[opal gull]

BM is such a fool for saying Kaido has some huge debt to her

[frigid gulch]

Rocks also “liberated” his family from it. I dunno if he killed them but he said he did intend to

With that big attack

[wet condor]

Slip up once, the the fandom says "rest in piss"

[runic dock]

None of them uunderstood dude , did you even read WB’s line? Does that sound like a person who perfectly understood what’s going on? This is why people think you rage bait

[steel stirrup]

I will admit

They seemed to have noticed and just took the opportunity to leave

[pine ridge]

cause dorry and broggy had given usopp a reason to trust them

[wet condor]

Whic his funnier

[frozen aspen]

Why is sb saul goodman now

[opal gull]

they are all opportunists

they dont have real bonds like Luffy and his crew

[urban lodge]

This is the original Sb

[keen quiver]

Scale these people from least to most fraudulent

[urban lodge]

He's back

[frozen aspen]

SG

[steel stirrup]

"Rocks definitely got possessed or something but I've been meaning to leave this crew for a long time, this is as good a reason as any"

[runic dock]

Sb you keep coming in here with dumb takes I’ll keep ripping them apart viciously , there’s better shit to discuss than your misunderstanding of the plot

[latent hamlet]

I just think they see this shit go down and the game system goes

"Not enough loyalty!"
"Betrayal! Kaido has left the team!"
"Betrayal! Linlin has left the team!"
"Betrayal! Edward Negate has left the team!"

[opal gull]

he was always the "finest lawyer"

[latent hamlet]

[frigid gulch]

At least Rocks was thankful..

[ashen perch]

At the core of it, it comes down to Xebec's crew being made up of a bunch of people that were forced into it by Davy Back fight who all would rather be doing something else than hanging around with a guy who could die for all they care

[opal gull]

[wet condor]

Too bad they didn't hear it

[steel stirrup]

He got to see Maffey's fine ass one last time I would be thankful too

[sage temple]

Why is Shiki and Big Mom even here

[frozen aspen]

from most to least
garling
sengoku
shiki
oden
bm
harald

[frigid gulch]

Tragic death

[sage temple]

SHIKI OVER HARALD?

[latent hamlet]

BUT ARSAL
MY FAMILY MAN WHITEBEARD IS A LOYAL MAN

....
O wait
Whitebeard never formed his family

[blazing depot]

Most fraudulent is Shiki

Cuz at least Garling has story relevance

[soft tangle]

oda thinks these dudes looked so badass here

[steel stirrup]

The last thing he saw was Maffey he died in the best way possible

[frozen aspen]

Harald is not a fraud just stupid

[steel stirrup]

Tall Godzilla Lady go Brrrrr

[frigid gulch]

Aurafarming on a paralyzed individual. Ts not tuff 🥀

[latent hamlet]

How many drinks do u have to buy whitebeard to earn his loyalty

The correct answer is none
Because loyalty cannot be bought

[opal gull]

Shiki and Sengoku, Sengoku couldnt beat no Haki Luffy while he was using his Buddha form

[latent hamlet]

[opal gull]

abs

[steel stirrup]

At all

[pine scaffold]

People told me WB betraying Rocks would be character assassination months ago

[urban lodge]

More and more proof that Imu is sexist

[ashen perch]

He did try that loyalty thing for a bit, still tried to help Xebec but then he thought he had no reason to stick to it so hey, too bad

[pine scaffold]

but now everyones defending it

[ornate tartan]

u overestimate how much WB cared about Rocks

If he really cared about him as much as yall think he wouldn’t have left his side

[frozen aspen]

shiki was on GV so that makes him less fraudulent than sengoku

[steel stirrup]

Were they correct?

[keen quiver]

If only she wasn't a pos

[steel stirrup]

Mannnn

[frigid gulch]

WB didn’t betray him

[steel stirrup]

Maybe I can fix her

[ashen perch]

Nuke the whole fandom

[frigid gulch]

He was the one who felt betrayed

[opal gull]

I think WB was just lazy

[latent hamlet]

Well he said he didnt mind helping for all the drinks
But theres helping rocks fight a monster
And then theres demon rocks attacking u

Not enough loyalty to stop that

[pine ridge]

did he betray rocks? rocks attacked wb

[latent hamlet]

[ashen perch]

Fraud has lost all meaning

[frigid gulch]

But I think it’s valid to complain about it

[ornate tartan]

Nuke the whole generation

[pine scaffold]

Well if BM can realise what happened to him, why cant WB

[frigid gulch]

Just the way Oda wrote it

[ashen perch]

Yupppp 😭

[frigid gulch]

That’s how it is

[steel stirrup]

On strength or merit?

[keen quiver]

Both fuck it

[steel stirrup]

Lmaoo ok

[frozen aspen]

calling harald a fraud when he was rocks sparring buddy is stupid. He is a lot of things but weak ain't one of them

[latent hamlet]

Plus every1 got sent flying and rocks fucking zoomed off
At that point wb is probably like

"Huh. That was kinda nuts....I should probably go home"

[opal gull]

Harald is no fraud yeah

[frigid gulch]

WB looks at him beating up Kaido and BM and then asks him “Are we in your way Rocks?”

Rocks replied yea

And then Rocks attacks him

[urban lodge]

Yesss...

[frigid gulch]

Boom done

[harsh trellis]

hello ppl

[pine ridge]

bm didn't know what was going on either

[latent hamlet]

I think loyalty or no there was like....very little reason to stay

[sage temple]

Oh I thought fraud was like more than strength

[pine scaffold]

She noticed Imu did something to him

[sage temple]

I see

[pine scaffold]

she said ''what did that thing do to you, Rocks???''

[steel stirrup]

Strength:

Least: Big Mom
Shiki
Oden
Harald
Sengoku
Most: Garling

Merit:
Least: Shiki
Big Mom
Oden
Harald
Garling
Most: Sengoku

Sengoku again

[prisma idol]

What does this mean

Ive come back to this

[frigid gulch]

To me, WB squaring up to face Imu with him demonstrates a bit of loyalty, but Rocks “blew” it when he attacked him from WB’s perspective

[pine scaffold]

This is unrealistic, I'm sorry

[prisma idol]

Hello SB

[ornate tartan]

now we fraud scaling

😂

[leaden rivet]

Why? Because he’s straight

[steel stirrup]

#also-manga message

[pine scaffold]

old Wb would have double checked one last time if Rocks is alright

[opal gull]

Sengoku above Harald and Oden?

[pine ridge]

and maybe that something was imu offering rocks money if he betrays his crew for all she knows

[opal gull]

[pine scaffold]

Hello

[hot cairn]

oh

[steel stirrup]

In terms of fraudulent activities yes

Least fraud to most fraud

[opal gull]

ohh ok

haha

[latent hamlet]

If only rocks farmed loyalty points

Then they would have stayed

Instead he kept grinding for harald loyalty

[prisma idol]

Bluebeard is real

[pine ridge]

exactly

[prisma idol]

Everyone has blue hair now

[pine scaffold]

Wb has no loyalty, at least in his younger years

he was a scumbag

[frigid gulch]

Yea ultimately he died cause he was abandoned

[frozen aspen]

a fraud is someone like garling who was hyped to be strong and considered himself tough shit only to get his ass kicked to the moon and back. Harald is neither weak nor a cocky ashole who overestimates himself. He is just a moron in regards to some of his decisions

[frigid gulch]

That’s the tragedy

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/think-bro-gif-22403438

[latent hamlet]

When he didnt even realize no amount of loyalty points he farmed with harald would matter
Harald needed the "Elbaf Peace" achievement

[prisma idol]

WB had loyalty tf?

[sage temple]

Makes more sense now

[harsh trellis]

did kizaru gave those food to luffy when he passed out?

[prisma idol]

Where did he not show loyalty

[sage temple]

I've been using fraud without knowing what it meant

[latent hamlet]

He was loyal to his family
Rocks was never family

[prisma idol]

Rocks attacked him first and said he was in the way, so he left

[latent hamlet]

[pine ridge]

you keep saying that after he fought with rocks for paying his bar tab

[frigid gulch]

He did have loyalty

[urban lodge]

Sb are you back to being a Kid fan?

[frozen aspen]

sb with the bait

[pine scaffold]

This doesnt mean shit in hindsight

[latent hamlet]

That gave him reason to stick around and help him with Imu
But not enough to try and save him

[urban lodge]

Since this is your original self

[opal gull]

did he ever stop being one?

[frigid gulch]

But Rocks “blew” it from WB’s perspective

[harsh trellis]

i mean he tried to save ace

[frigid gulch]

Which you can argue was dumb

[latent hamlet]

Ace is family

[urban lodge]

Kinda, at least openly

[opal gull]

lol

[hot cairn]

yes

[prisma idol]

The only thing I will give you about WB SB is that WB isn't observant

[pine scaffold]

OLD WB wouldn't have acted this way

[frozen aspen]

in hindsight wb was admittedly a bit dumb

[prisma idol]

But he is by far not disloyal

[opal gull]

yeah WB seems a bit slow

[harsh trellis]

yes so why the argument WB is a fraud

[frozen aspen]

like he should have realized that smth was wrong with rocks

[pine ridge]

yeah sure bud

[pine scaffold]

Wb pretty much killed his own captain in my eyes

[prisma idol]

Ragebait

[pine scaffold]

He could have saved Rocks in the end

[frozen aspen]

ok sb

[steel stirrup]

He was loyal until he got thrown through a mountain

[prisma idol]

Ignored

[latent hamlet]

Even if he did
There isnt much reason to stay and help him

[frozen aspen]

now please take your pills

[pine ridge]

wb > rocks

[latent hamlet]

Bro got yeeted and rocks ran off

[harsh trellis]

oda kinda hinted it in the manga the sbs section

[frigid gulch]

WB woulda been the best guy in the crew for Rocks to tell his secrets to even, but Rocks never fully trusted anyone, even WB

[opal gull]

[frigid gulch]

So he only told Harald

[prisma idol]

https://tenor.com/view/voices-the-voices-the-voices-tell-me-to-do-horrible-things-cat-gif-6984091337784405754

[hot cairn]

how is it that sb always manages to ragebait this chat

[steel stirrup]

I think two things can be true at once

[hot cairn]

every single time

and everyone pays attention

[latent hamlet]

Unuronically if he told WB about his family
WB might have been more compelled to stay

[harsh trellis]

i just got here

[frigid gulch]

You might be right

[steel stirrup]

Big facts

[frozen aspen]

dunno he did seem to like the guy enough as a captain. Even roger held some respect for him

[prisma idol]

Oh yeah I fixed this earlier, I promise this is my last time posting this dont kill me for posting it 5 times it took way to long to color this on my phone for me to only post it twice

[frigid gulch]

WB would probably help more

If he knew Rocks had a kid and wife

[steel stirrup]

The only one I can remember explicitly calling Rocks a scoundrel is Big Mom

[latent hamlet]

Liking some1 is far different than being loyal enough to stick around and help him at severe risk

Plus like

[prisma idol]

Rocks keeping his secrets

[steel stirrup]

Did anyone call Rocks a scoundrel or evil other than Sengoku's lying ass

[frozen aspen]

well either way roger and garp had no reason to stay either but they did

[pine ridge]

for all he knows rocks made a deal with imu and switched sides

[steel stirrup]

And Big Mom

[urban lodge]

Two fake names and a fake hair color...

[latent hamlet]

They went from arguably the strongest fighting force ever to
Big mom being yeeted
Kaido being yeeted
WB being yeeted
Rocks ran off
Garp and Roger chased
To the 3 yeeted its like....maybe we should just go home

Plus garp and Roger only chased cuz their people were being endangered

[pine scaffold]

WB would have double checked

it was a poorly written way to remove WB from God Valley

[frozen aspen]

pretty sure roger went bc of his own curiosity

[harsh trellis]

Saul goodman

[opal gull]

do you think Oda is falling off?

[leaden rivet]

Not really

[keen quiver]

This has been the king of elbaf for 6 years. Idk how they still standing.

[frozen aspen]

yeah i think oda just wanted wb away as soon as possible

[pine ridge]

maybe rocks should've thought about that before making a crew through davy back fights

[pine scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-friends-psychicpebbles-pim-smiling-friends-pim-mr-boss-gif-1373626090718171797

[leaden rivet]

It’s because he abandoned rocks

[frozen aspen]

he wasn't

[urban lodge]

They don't have a king

[hot cairn]

no he wasnt?

[frozen aspen]

hajrudin is not the king they don't have one

[runic dock]

Haj isn’t king

[harsh trellis]

dang u get it

[urban lodge]

The closest thing to a leader figure they have right now is Jarul

[keen quiver]

Thank god you mfs factually reading the story

[frozen aspen]

jarul is in charge as the oldest giant

[royal orchid]

!rmd 4y no LuNa

[keen quiver]

Thought mfs actually believed that

[leaden rivet]

Nahhh too late to be slick about it now speedreader

[pine scaffold]

idk ngl

[keen quiver]

But don't let him be king after this incident

[leaden rivet]

We know what you are

[runic dock]

Some aren’t

[pine scaffold]

imma read other things instead

[prisma idol]

It will happen

[pine scaffold]

finish Bleach

[prisma idol]

You cant stop it

[keen quiver]

You don't even know me 💀

[frozen aspen]

what kind of coper thinks this will ever happen

[hot cairn]

you’re dropping OP?

[harsh trellis]

im catching up

[urban lodge]

He and his brother will both be kings

[pine scaffold]

Nah

[leaden rivet]

I don’t need to know you 🕵️

[pine scaffold]

I need a break from OP, so I'll read other stuff in the meantime

[sage temple]

Bro has a hand

[hot cairn]

oh you havent read Elbaph yet? Don’t stay here

[sage temple]

Bro has opposable thumbs

[urban lodge]

Finish Bleach or else

[opal gull]

such as...

[pine scaffold]

just said that

[sage temple]

Bro has a pinky finger

[frigid gulch]

Sb will be back for Demon Harald

[blazing depot]

Cool fact this is a redraw of the MHA author’s old fanart

[frozen aspen]

if SB were to drop op how would he make the perfect ragebait ?

[frigid gulch]

[blazing depot]

I’m watching Code Geass for the first time

It’s some good stuff

[pine scaffold]

I'll be finishing Bleach and continue reading Kagurabachi (maybe)

[hot cairn]

well he says he’ll be on break so

[ornate tartan]

in the middle of my reread of it

[harsh trellis]

im getting there.

[ornate tartan]

sb u should finish it

[opal gull]

I started it multiple times but I keep dropping it idk why

I am now watching Gurren Lagan

[urban lodge]

Good

[hot cairn]

PEAK

[royal orchid]

I'm at gurren lagann episode 5 :)

[blazing depot]

I’m watching the dub of it and one of the actors is fucking Spider Man 😭

[opal gull]

yeah it is good

[harsh trellis]

im a girl hahaha

[sage temple]

Lol ass

[blazing depot]

Yuri Lownethal has a VERY unique voice

[leaden rivet]

@wet condor tho, why did you think I disliked rocks?

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-beavis-mike-judge's-beavis-and-butt-head-s1-e5-happy-gif-10171286930953990877

[pine scaffold]

I think this chapter was too depressing for me

[wet condor]

I could've sworn I heard you say you like find him annoying

[pine scaffold]

even with Harald crying over it as well

[wet condor]

Similar to penny but not to the same level of hate of course lol

[pine scaffold]

lots of emotions ngl

negative ones too

[blazing depot]

Yes unfortunately Loki isn’t in it

Shocking I know

[keen quiver]

@steel stirrup should have stuck around to help his dad after the fight.

[wet condor]

Read rather lol

[frigid gulch]

Harald had a valid crashout

[hot cairn]

you’ll get spoiled if you stay in this channel

[royal orchid]

I wish I could talk to my younger self and ask him why the hell I dropped one piece in the first episode

[steel stirrup]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO

😭😭

[harsh trellis]

[steel stirrup]

The most Valid of Crashouts

[harsh trellis]

okay I'll come back dont forget about me

[pine scaffold]

This is such a shame, I loved GV

😔

[vital heart]

No the fuck it is not a mistranslation

[urban lodge]

Mid valley

[frozen aspen]

ok sb

[vital heart]

It was an onomatopoeia there

In that bubble

move on!

[keen quiver]

Even usopp could instantly tell dorry and broggy were fucked up

Idk how whitebeard couldn't

😭

[tranquil blade]

You know I've been thinking, I still kinda don't like Shanks even if I don't hate him anymore

[vital heart]

Do any of you guys know how to make a clip of a YouTube video ?

?

?

[tranquil blade]

Wdym

[frozen aspen]

A what? name?

[vital heart]

I want to clip a youtube video

[frozen aspen]

local name?

[urban lodge]

I really hope he begs when he fights Shanks too, that would be really funny

[frigid gulch]

He might

[keen quiver]

If you think he's dying ti shanks

[hot cairn]

what do you think of the Garp and Dragon stuff

[frigid gulch]

[vital heart]

I'm on here

[vital heart]

I GOT SHOUTED OUT

[keen quiver]

Your illiteracy rate might be pk level

[tranquil blade]

This would actually make me hate Shanks though

[steel stirrup]

Yea thats a fumble

[vital heart]

I GOT SHOUTED OUT

[pine scaffold]

Yeah this was good

[keen quiver]

😭

[urban lodge]

And Lisa I'm not a Shanks fan just to be clear

I just know Oda

[vital heart]

GUYS

[prisma idol]

Try the triple dots

[keen quiver]

He dint beg for law

[placid rover]

Did y'all cry on Saturn's death?

[keen quiver]

Zero reason to beg for shanks

[tranquil blade]

W Meek W Speed

[urban lodge]

I didn't say that smh

[hot cairn]

why?

[pine scaffold]

Garp seemed a bit patronising to Dragon, or did I read it weirdly

[urban lodge]

Obviously he would end up winning

[keen quiver]

He dint even beg there he was pissed his pops was trying to kill him.

[steel stirrup]

I understand Big Mom not understanding but WB should have definitely known

BB knows that

[gloomy tree]

what

[urban lodge]

But Oda would glaze Shanks as much as possible before that

[keen quiver]

Oda better lock his game sense down

[gloomy tree]

i didnt get that feeling at all Sb

[keen quiver]

For when the fight happens

[leaden rivet]

I don’t really think his character should’ve existed

[frozen aspen]

ngl the saturn and gorosei memes are good

[pine scaffold]

He was just saying ''kay'', ''kay'' like he didn't really care that much

[steel stirrup]

As much as Oda loves Shanks he loves BB too

[leaden rivet]

But I do like him

[vital heart]

@gloomy tree @odd rune @ashen perch I feel like you guys would be jealous of me for this. Check it out! @alpine trench @frail kindle

[wet condor]

That's what it was

[tranquil blade]

Like idk he kinda feels like he has all the ingredients together to be good, but the ingridients haven't like come together yet, they probably will but he just doesnt feel right to me as it is

[keen quiver]

He said blackbeard is his favorite irl pirate

[tranquil blade]

I do see a lot of potential in him though

[keen quiver]

Gotta see him lock in for the writing

[gloomy tree]

not not really

[vestal heath]

DAMN

[ashen perch]

Please find gainful employment

[hot cairn]

you don’t ping me anymore meek and that makes me sad

[tranquil blade]

I actually have been failing to find a job, job searching sucks rn

[steel stirrup]

Yes it does

[vital heart]

[vital heart]

[hot cairn]

yeah that’s because Oda hasnt cooked yet, we’ll get more stuff when Shanks szn comes around

[steel stirrup]

That's why I'm not worried

[distant vine]

:😨

[vital heart]

Did you find that cool

[vital heart]

Holy profit margins!

[steel stirrup]

Will steal that shit lmaoooo foh

[gloomy tree]

like i dont like Morj at all, but if you find enjoyment in this good for you Meek

[tranquil blade]

I agree

[vital heart]

You dont watch his weekly Tuesday videos?

[hot cairn]

Jesuschrist

[tranquil blade]

but stop giving him money though

[steel stirrup]

Hell nah

[hot cairn]

yeah I did

[distant vine]

HE DID IT. HE BEAT BUGGY

[tranquil blade]

The donation shit has to stop

[steel stirrup]

Meek had to donate to get this shit noticed?

Oh hell nah

[tranquil blade]

Lego Zoro already with 2 black blades, manga Zoro is lacking

[hot cairn]

his god valley videos have been pretty bad ngl

[steel stirrup]

Joshua say it ain't so

[distant vine]

Oh man they actually did quite a bit of Lego One Piece stuff

[tranquil blade]

Actually speaking of, do you guys think Zoro will get all his black blades at the same time or more spread out over several arcs?

[pine scaffold]

same time

[odd rune]

Please stop pinging me

[distant vine]

I wish this was the main series, but it is what it is. Not like Im a Lego guy anyways

[vital heart]

Fishbonen!!!!!!!!

[royal orchid]

them shooting WB in that black and white scene always reminds me of this

https://tenor.com/view/beating-camera-jumping-destroying-beating-up-camera-gif-5096862812452266581

[vital heart]

Is not a real characterbtw

[distant vine]

Might as well be all at once I feel

[keen quiver]

Had to look good in hd

[vital heart]

I feeel like Macks genuinely dislikes me.

[pine scaffold]

Can we all agree that the way Rocks died was the darkest thing in this manga

[tranquil blade]

To me it depends on how blackening a blade works, I did have a theory you have to fufill a certain "will" of a blade to turn it black, like Wado being to become the WSS, and the other blades having different requirements needing to be fufilled

[pine ridge]

I think it'll be at the same time once he gets all three kitetsus

[pine scaffold]

I cant believe Oda went that far with it

[urban lodge]

He didn't suffer enough

[vital heart]

This is what Macks [Dragon] would say to me [Garp]

[graceful belfry]

[pine scaffold]

I do like this end to Rocks, if it was done in a better way

[gloomy tree]

how so, we have seen worse, like them drugging and experimenting on kids, all the slavery stuff

[pine scaffold]

the Wb stuff is really grinding my gears

[tranquil blade]

Meek I will admit people do not like all the pinging

[vital heart]

How?

It's literally pixels on a screen

[tranquil blade]

Even I sometimes find it a little annoying

[vital heart]

The pinging pixels just happen to be yellow/red.

Can't handle red/yellow pixels?

[somber flare]

Whitebeard is justified in just leaving and not giving a fuck about Rocks or the Rocks pirates

[gloomy tree]

ok Meek, if people ask you to not ping them, just dont

[vital heart]

damn, yall cant handle pixels on a screen then

but ok i wont ping Macks anymore

[pine scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/zaunvi-caitvitwt-stan-twitter-gif-10576500664165224210

[leaden rivet]

I’ll never understand why some people act like they got shot if you ping them

[iron oriole]

Lol he's not getting all 3

[pine scaffold]

its shit writing

hes not justified

[pine scaffold]

but y'all will say im ragebaiting

[tranquil blade]

I only find it annoying when I'm working on like a project for college or homework or whatever

[gloomy tree]

oh here we go again, the "shit writing" argument

[pine scaffold]

so im gonna put my time into other things now

[vital heart]

Rage Bait

Harald is an amazing character. He's just a giant idiot

[distant vine]

Whitebeard is justified in leaving in that the Rocks Pirates never were a "fight until the bitter end" crew

[blazing depot]

No Garling fans are that stupid

[somber flare]

"Oh yes my lord and savior Rocks who forced me to be here by beating me up I will totally risk my life for you after you turned into a demon and tried to kill me !!"

[tranquil blade]

I mean technically this statement is not inherently incorrect

[gloomy tree]

exactly

[frozen aspen]

lego moment

[vital heart]

yesssssss

[hot cairn]

me neither, I have discord’s notifications off anyway so I don’t really mind

[tranquil blade]

A villain very much should be despised for their actions, that's a sign the author managed to make an at least decent villain already

[hot cairn]

yeah

that’s why I don’t hate on Garling lol he’s just being a good antagonist

he’s supposed to be like that

[blazing depot]

Also I think people are overlooking the fact that the whole reason Rocks failed is his crew wasn’t founded on friendship and bonds, but convenience or Davy Back

[graceful belfry]

It’s fun

[sacred flume]

Technically it was just a temporary alliance

[ornate tartan]

😂😂

[tranquil blade]

Garling is not meant to be likable, he's meant to be narcissistic and egotistical and psychotic while simultaneously being a little pathetic

[hot cairn]

true

it is

[sacred flume]

The fandom tries to act like they were a normal crew and that they seen rocks as their captain or superior

[somber flare]

If I'm only on a crew because the captain beat me in a fight no fucking shit I won't treat you like some family member that I will fight to the bitter end for

[tranquil blade]

Also Rocks literally attacked him

[gloomy tree]

i will never understand what so fun about hating on a character

[iron oriole]

You either love a good villain because of how evil their actions etc are or you hate a good villain because of how evil their actions etc are

Both are signs of a good villain

[ornate tartan]

i guess that’s what people like nowadays more then ever, Ive never agreed w it though

[gloomy tree]

we literally have known all the time how Wb felt about his time in this crew, that it lead to how he decided to run his own crew

[hot cairn]

100%

[somber flare]

Garling also isn't meant to be this all powerful being that people thought he would be just because he has blood relations with Shanks

[sacred flume]

I mean he literally told oden about it

[graceful belfry]

It depends on the character, for me. Garling is merely easy pickings and he has a strong enough fanbase, who I’ve honestly seen give some decently well sported responses

[distant vine]

I really like Garling

[hot cairn]

me too

[somber flare]

All the holy knights are Celestial Dragons who have gotten all of their power handed to them on a silver platter and go through absolutely 0 struggle for their entire lives

[sacred flume]

Tbf I don’t think people thought he was, no one ever said garling is top 1

[graceful belfry]

Same, he’s a neat character

[hot cairn]

which characters do you hate rei?

[graceful belfry]

Really looking forward to his interactions with Shanks

[gloomy tree]

tbh i think we will be surprised by old Garling

[tranquil blade]

It also depends on the context of the series itself, Garling works well in a series full of fights as a character who sees himself highly even amongst other celestial dragons and is clearly competitive in general, and then immediately being "humbled" by someone far stronger than him

[sacred flume]

Handsome ash on this panel

[tranquil blade]

Oh he will be strong

[graceful belfry]

Uhhh tough question

[somber flare]

I don't think he'll be anything crazy

[tranquil blade]

Considering that he is a little more important than the other gorosei I predict him to be the most powerful one of them

[hot cairn]

me too, Oda really hyped up his entrance when he became an elder. He might be one of the strongest of the bunch

[ornate tartan]

i’ve been saying this for a while, but unfortunately everyone has convinced themselves that he’s a fraud. Now they gonna call anyone who struggles against Gorosei Garling a fraud too smh😂

[gloomy tree]

fraud, the most meaningless word in the OP fandom

[graceful belfry]

Garling will likely overtake Saturn as my favorite Gorosei member. Unless Oda surprises me and gives them all respective character arcs

[dense haven]

garlingbros let it go please it's getting embarrassing now

[gloomy tree]

right after "aura"

[frigid gulch]

He’s a fraud in comparison to some of the standards set for him before

That’s for sure

[tranquil blade]

I think the other gorosei will always lack a little just because they have no real narrative tie to anyone outside of their group, and Imu of course

[frigid gulch]

But not overall

[sacred flume]

That’s not how that works

[somber flare]

Shamrock is gonna be the Holy Knight that's actually the most important

[frigid gulch]

Yes it does

[sacred flume]

No

[tranquil blade]

Saturn had his conflict with Kuma and Vegapunk and Bonney that made him a compelling villain

[hot cairn]

my favorite member is Garling rn, I wasn’t feeling Saturn in Egghead too much tbh

[frigid gulch]

Yes it does

[sacred flume]

Just chatting

[somber flare]

the only standards he's a fruad to is the fan's

[hot cairn]

unless Oda gives some to them like he did with Saturn

[distant vine]

Love making fun of him as well

Oda's been hilarious with Garling

[ornate tartan]

fodder, bum, washed, fraud, rumor man, nerfed, etc

[hazy echo]

https://youtu.be/XfWWYtuqR_g?si=jd7TaZE1u1l5GD1M

[hot cairn]

I just hope they’re not like a hive mind that we need to beat

[ornate tartan]

shit crazy man😭 just read the chapter

[distant vine]

One fight with a top tier and he swears them off forever

[hot cairn]

I hope Oda gives characterization to each of them

[frigid gulch]

If you consider the kind of hype he was getting before, then yes, he massively undercut those expectations lol

It’s exactly how it works

[sacred flume]

Not really

He can still very much be strong just not stronger than rocks

[dense haven]

old garling biggest feat is killing mjosgard lulw even young garling did more

[somber flare]

He should've never gotten that hyped in the first place

[frigid gulch]

It only works if you didn’t think he was some Rocks tier fighter at GV

[tranquil blade]

That would help them but I dont think he will do that, that would take a lot of time to give them what Saturn had and idk if Oda is willing to spend quite that much time on them seeing as how he has been only speeding up in his pace toward the end of the series

[graceful belfry]

I feel the same way honestly. Like, all of them are cool as hell but not every single one of them feels guaranteed to receive the same amount of substance as Saturn and as Garling has been set up for

[frigid gulch]

But that’s precisely my point

[blazing depot]

Bro how is he gonna fight

[sacred flume]

Yeah there is nothing wrong with that

[hot cairn]

I sure didn’t, people were thinking that?

[iron oriole]

Fandom problem ngl, they've convinced themself that Shanks is a God so his daddy must be even more powerful

[frigid gulch]

You don’t get it all

[deep chasm]

I think it would have been wrong to think he was a rocks tier fighter ever, let alone during gods valley where Id expect him to be weaker than current

[sacred flume]

Exactly

[hot cairn]

I’m sure he’ll give them some connections to at least the people they’ll fight with

[somber flare]

yeah that's what I mean

[graceful belfry]

Well, I suppose Nusjuro could have some distinct ties to Wano

[dense haven]

he is gonna scar wb next chapter guys trust

[somber flare]

He's probably as strong as an admiral tops

[frigid gulch]

I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with him being weaker. I’m saying it was wrong to think he was. In comparison to that standard, he was a fraud as they say

[sacred flume]

Losing to a stronger opponent can’t make you a fraud that’s makes no sense

[hot cairn]

we have the Kitestu stuff too, there might be something there

[somber flare]

I think it was completely correct to think he wasn't that strong

[royal orchid]

man and are just such #manga white name emojis
never see also manga use it

[tranquil blade]

Oh they'll have a dynamic for sure, like Zoro and Venus will likely have some kinda clash of ideals but we wouldn't necessarily get the extended flashbacks detailing their actions against characters we already know and like in the way Saturn had, if that makes sense.

[frigid gulch]

Yea

I saw it at least

[deep chasm]

isnt that more of their fault for thinking he was rocks tier

[frail kindle]

I'm not

[deep chasm]

he def had a bad performance

[frigid gulch]

It is

[deep chasm]

but like why did anyone think he was as strong as rocks

[tranquil blade]

Garling is only a fraud in the sense that the fan expectations did not line up with what he actually is, and that's okay

[iron oriole]

Crazy revelation

[dense haven]

it can when the only W you have are against defenseless slaves

[sacred flume]

Not really more so rage baiters

[somber flare]

Garling should never even be close to a Shanks level fighter, which is what I assume a lot of people thought was going to be the case

[stone terrace]

GARLING NUMERO UNO CAMPẼAO DO MUNDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[dense haven]

because they thought he was the one to scar wb

[hot cairn]

yeah that’s fair, Oda doesnt really have the time for that. In another timeline where human beings have long life spans he probably would’ve given each one of them an arc lol

[frigid gulch]

Champion of God Valley, Oda said he was “strong”, father of Shanks, portrayed as the strongest knight etc.

[wraith mantle]

Is this ai

[hot cairn]

exactly

[sacred flume]

Naw that’s not how that works so if you’re fighting someone stronger right? Aren’t you suppose to have a lower chance of winning than the other person due to them being stronger

[stone terrace]

Garling never fought whitebeard so yes no opportunity to scar him

Thats life

[frigid gulch]

In fact, he doesn’t even seem to be a top tier here

[sacred flume]

He can still be all of that

[tranquil blade]

I think people should have an open mind when Oda decides to explore new characters, whether it's for their strength or their actual character and personality, so that they don't keep running into this issue

[sacred flume]

Like how is any of that contradicted

[frigid gulch]

That’s besides the point

[dense haven]

he is the champion of gods valley tho oda didnt lie

[stone terrace]

He was never called that

[frigid gulch]

I’m listing the reasons why

I never said he can’t

[tranquil blade]

If Oda was immortal One Piece would genuinely be 5000 chapters long and I'm not even being hyperbolic when I say that

[stone terrace]

See this is the problem with viz

Stephen has done so much damage

https://tenor.com/view/no-no-way-nah-head-shaking-disagree-gif-17699608

[sacred flume]

Stephen?

[frigid gulch]

I mean yea

He is the champ

[stone terrace]

Op translator

[frigid gulch]

Of the tourney

[vital heart]

This will be because of the Gorosei power amp boost, not due to his actual strength, though. Keep that in mind

[sacred flume]

Stephen has been the best in comparison to the others

[somber flare]

being the father of Shanks is entirely irrelevant and what's wrong with this fandom's expectations of scaling characters we haven't seen in action yet

[vital heart]

Absolutely not. I'm way better, if you take into account time constraints.

Sorry dont actually respond to that message

[iron oriole]

Cope

[vital heart]

I think Stephen is better than me lol

[tranquil blade]

It hardly matters

[sacred flume]

Sorry well he’s the second best after you

[hot cairn]

for sure

[stone terrace]

Hes good but when he makes a mistake it sticks

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-d-luffy-one-piece-handsome-moments-strawhat-gif-23576389

[dense haven]

doesn't stop people from scaling dragon just because he's luffys dad

[tranquil blade]

The celestial dragons aren't meant to be these tough guys who stand well on their own, that's for the Marines and Pirates, they're generally cowardly people relying on the abilities of others to get what they want, even when they ARE strong

[frigid gulch]

I pretty much said before I wasn’t sure about this line

[sacred flume]

I’m confused can you tell me what the mistake was

[gloomy tree]

i dont necessarely agree with that tbh

[stone terrace]

The original translation called garling "the champion of god valley"

Was later corrected

[somber flare]

Yeah Dragon scaling is also pretty dumb

[frigid gulch]

Nah it was king/ruler

[stone terrace]

But you see people clowning garling for being "champ of god valley" when its actually he distinguished themself there

[frigid gulch]

Champion is correct

[stone terrace]

And he we can see hes responsible for rocks being dead

[latent hamlet]

He was the champ tho
Champ of bums
Champ of slave killing

[sacred flume]

It conveys the same message tbh

[tranquil blade]

Eh not really

[dense haven]

lend me a hand sommers it's 1hp rocks we're up against

[frigid gulch]

As I thought, “distinguished himself” is a flowery way of saying champion

That’s Viz for you

[tranquil blade]

Champion of God Valley sounds a lot more grandiose than just "distinguishing" oneself at the incident

[dapper tree]

Really had to 3 v 1 him

[stone terrace]

Nobody is talking about the tournament lmao

It literally didnt end

[frigid gulch]

But that’s what it refers to

[stone terrace]

where

[sacred flume]

What chapter is that

[stone terrace]

1086

[royal orchid]

he killed the most slaves

[tranquil blade]

I mean I could see it being related to the tournament when Sommers pretty much admitted Garling was probably gonna win

[steel stirrup]

!pasta

[tropic nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/486983010025996299/735731575647502337/unknown.png

[stone terrace]

He probably did kill the most slaves but champion is an invention

[steel stirrup]

LMAOOOOO

[scenic dirge]

Garling a bitch

[stone terrace]

Champion/superhero lol

[tranquil blade]

Oh yeah I forgot he used to be called the king of god valley

[frigid gulch]

Yea

[tranquil blade]

That was a weird thing

[steel stirrup]

Superhero is hilarious

[frigid gulch]

And now we know God Valley held a tournament

[stone terrace]

Thats a different connotation from "champion" like sports

[frigid gulch]

Where you’d be the champion if you won

[dense haven]

garling top 1 slave killer in the verse

[frigid gulch]

Perfectly fine

[steel stirrup]

Champion because bro killed the most Slaves and ended Rocks

[frigid gulch]

I’m pretty sure Sommers referenced it too

[sacred flume]

He was the champion is correct

[frigid gulch]

He said Garling would claim Shakky

[steel stirrup]

Eww

[frigid gulch]

Likely because he was in the lead

[royal orchid]

Garling's observation haki training allows him to sense the location of all starving/bound/unarmed people in a 100m radius, that's how he found Xebec

[steel stirrup]

Yep

[steel stirrup]

LMAOOOOOO

Where is Arsal

Wtf

Why is he not going his damn job

[somber flare]

such a funny guy

[urban lodge]

Most normal Luffy pfp

[steel stirrup]

And Bluko is here but they retired fucking retired

[wraith mantle]

@gloomy tree

[tranquil blade]

@gloomy tree

[wraith mantle]

do your thing my boy

[tranquil blade]

Fuck

[ornate tartan]

😂

[tropic nova]

@cloud hare was banned!

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/mourinho-gif-20750597

[steel stirrup]

Thank you Chrissy

[dense haven]

rest in piss

[frigid gulch]

Having said that, maybe Imu buff made him 2x as strong

[random hinge]

you're welcome rich

[steel stirrup]

OH