also-manga

[sage temple]

😭

[ashen perch]

yea, thats not changing the fact that its a certain value

[steel stirrup]

Do you?

[sage temple]

Talmout "56.39% precisely"

[prisma idol]

Counter to loki

[stone terrace]

None of us do

[prisma idol]

He has the giant debuff so he has to be a fraud

[ashen perch]

it really doesnt change anything here

[remote maple]

bounty scaling :(

[sage temple]

Exactly so none of us can compare this bounty with someone elses and act like it means anything

[ashen perch]

whatever its special for, its still a certain value which is only 56.39% of what Kaido had

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-ishowspeed-yeah-right-ishowspeed-yeah-ishowspeed-right-ishowspeed-stream-gif-2870397197282141259

[sage temple]

Yeah it's a value of a completely different type of label

[steel stirrup]

Who brought up the bounty first

[ashen perch]

also bounty scaling is real and Oda is its #1 believer

[pine ridge]

it could be a "wow very nice drawing timmy, let's give a very special place right here on the fridge" thing

[ashen perch]

you can point to 90% of bounties as a measure of strength because Oda never said "its not a measure of strength" he said "its not only a measure of strength"

[sage temple]

You don't know if a special bounty and a normal bounty don't have the same value sacling

[prisma idol]

I mean to completely discount bounties is crazy, as usually they are a good measure of strength

[steel stirrup]

😭😭

[prisma idol]

But its not everything

[sage temple]

Well that 90% of bounties don't have special in front of them

[ashen perch]

????? berries are berries??

[prisma idol]

Buggy is like the only example of Bounty scaling being a bad practice

[sage temple]

How do you know Special bounty doesn't up the value or devalue said person

[frigid gulch]

It’s def not a perfect measure

[thick mango]

Maybe a special bounty means you get a prize if you bring him in. Like a special world government branded fidget spimner

[vale heath]

My 2.5 billion berries are worth 50% more than your 2.5 billion berries

[ashen perch]

do you think a special bounty of 200k dollars on some wanted man's head changes the value of the dollar? like how does that work

[frigid gulch]

But it is a measure

[sage temple]

Exactly so you can't compare apples to oranges

[steel stirrup]

LMAOOOO

[sage temple]

Arsal when faced with an inability to bountyscale

[remote maple]

bounties don't only refer to strength they can represent a bunch of other things, like threat to the government, or all the shit the person has done

[prisma idol]

I haven't heard of fidget spinners since the summer of 2017

[ashen perch]

I just dont know what youre making of this Socrates

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/it-is-known-game-of-thrones-it's-understood-everyone-knows-we-know-gif-9361879955269503159

[ashen perch]

are you saying his bounty is lower than it should be?

like what is the point here

what does special bounty change about the value

[steel stirrup]

...

What are yall arguing about?

[thick mango]

Yes obviously the point is loki glazing. Ofc

[sage temple]

I'm saying since you don't know what a special bounty means you can't compare it to a non-special bounty

[sage temple]

We don't know yet

[prisma idol]

Special bounties inflate their price, therefore I can say that Loki has an inflated bounty and is actually worth 999 berries

[grand flower]

Lmaooo

[steel stirrup]

You gotta explain why not now

[prisma idol]

And therefore is a chopper victim

[sacred flume]

!bounty

[tropic nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/164970986284777473/700439598383366204/image0.png

[ashen perch]

man how

[grand flower]

Pretty sure special bounty will just be because Loki isn’t a pirate

[sage temple]

Because they're different bounties

[prisma idol]

Pretty much

[ashen perch]

I said that shuron

its definitely that

[sage temple]

Dragon isn't a pirate

Sabo isn't a pirate

[steel stirrup]

...

[sage temple]

Where's their special bounty

[steel stirrup]

😭

[frigid gulch]

It could have to do with him being royalty

Who knows

[ashen perch]

Dragon does have a special bounty of 6.7B berries, you just havent seen it yet

[steel stirrup]

Now he brings up Sanji

[prisma idol]

Vivi special bounty when?

[grand flower]

They belong to a criminal faction like pirates do

[prisma idol]

4 billion berries

[grand flower]

Loki is just a criminal

[ashen perch]

but yeah, the reason for "special" does not matter, I was talking about value specifically and thats gonna be the same no matter what

[grand flower]

Seemingly an individual ome

[frigid gulch]

Well he did have a bounty quirk

So this could just be that

[sage temple]

They aren't pirates though

[steel stirrup]

Do you think his "worshippers" could have been his crew or are they just from Elbaf

[sage temple]

Now you're changing what special bounty means

[prisma yacht]

What about kid robin

[vestal heath]

What about her?

[sage temple]

From "it means he just isn't a pirate" to "it means he's just an individual criminal"

[steel stirrup]

As a child she had a higher bounty than 15 year old war monger Kaido

[sage temple]

Just keep making your own definitions and see whichever sticks i guess

[pine ridge]

I think the special bounty is going to be connected to loki "killing" harald

[vestal heath]

Oh

Knowing the world government, I’m still not surprised about that lol

[sage temple]

Unless the special-ness of the bounty is just a way to add a trillion to Loki's existing bounty

[vale heath]

Does Nika have a special bounty

[prisma yacht]

She wasn't a pirate nor did she belong to any criminal faction

[vale heath]

She's Nika

[ashen perch]

you know thats not gonna happen

[steel stirrup]

Socrates is arguing you cannot bounty scale with Loki because his bounty is special

Arsal is now asking what makes it special

[sage temple]

What if the special in Loki's bounty is like the "e" in this number

[prisma idol]

She did belong to a criminal faction, those Oharans

[sage temple]

You don't know if it won't happen

[ashen perch]

man whatever

[sage temple]

So you can't judge it like you do know

Alright then

[ashen rose]

Yay Socrates

[steel stirrup]

Ik this is a joke but in world this some real shit

[ashen rose]

Long time no see

[steel stirrup]

Oh shit

[sage temple]

Oh you're back

I was told you changed your pfp

[ashen rose]

Balatro

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-getting-out-of-hand-star-wars-viceroy-jedi-sith-gif-11488732

[ashen rose]

Nuh uh

[prisma idol]

https://tenor.com/view/wall-gif-24534315

[prisma yacht]

Reunion

[ashen rose]

Don't know what they're talking about

[sage temple]

Crazy

[prisma idol]

Something something unstoppable force vs unmoveable object

[steel stirrup]

Type beat

[prisma yacht]

Lmao

[ashen rose]

Beat

[vestal heath]

“When a unstoppable force meets a immovable object”

[ashen rose]

Unmoveable

[prisma idol]

Thank you

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/yagami-yagami-light-yagami-raito-death-note-l-lawliet-gif-19231120

[sage temple]

Same person btw

[ashen perch]

anyways speaking of bounty, I was trying to figure out if there was a pun to Loki's bounty and all I found was "Furo" aka bath, which I doubt he has taken in 6 years so I am not sure it applies

[steel stirrup]

😭😭stop it

[prisma idol]

This person is so smart and wise and beautiful, they are so right

[ashen rose]

IG when it rains

[sage temple]

I am never wrong about Loki

[ashen perch]

eh

[pine ridge]

god forbid someone spits some facts in #also-manga

[sage temple]

Icon I hope you remember your bet

[steel stirrup]

I assumed his followers or whatever them dudes down there are were helping with that

[ashen rose]

Just the philosophers

[ashen perch]

Oda gotta answer that in a SBS

[prisma idol]

Would you believe me if I said English was my first language

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-reacts-flightreacts-ayton-of-deandre-flight-ayton-of-deandre-look-at-ayton-of-deandre-gif-14788964787938800176

[ashen rose]

I would tbh

[steel stirrup]

True inquiring minds need to know

I hope they helped bro out 6 years is wild without a shower

His haki is the strongest its ever been

[ornate tartan]

the animals helped maybe

he’s not alone down there

[ashen rose]

That does seem like a question he would answer, whether that's good or bad, idfk

[steel stirrup]

Yea he has followers down there too

[ashen rose]

Now that's just disgusting

[steel stirrup]

Worshippers whatever they were translated as being

[urban lodge]

They were wearing gas masks for a reason

[steel stirrup]

I sometimes forget he wasn't completely alone down there

[ashen rose]

It's snowy there, so he's probably soaked all the time

[steel stirrup]

LMAOOOOO

[frozen aspen]

that's probably the power of his stank knocking ppl over

[ashen rose]

Oof

Nice

[frozen aspen]

luffy can resist it bc he stinks too

[steel stirrup]

Him and Zoro

No issue

[sage temple]

Loki obviously takes baths. How do you think his locs are so beautiful and magentic

[stone terrace]

Things dont smell as bad in the cold

[ashen rose]

And Sanji, and gabán, and chopper who has insane smell

[steel stirrup]

You ever meet someone who was musty in the cold????

[ashen rose]

Magnetic?

[steel stirrup]

😭

[ornate tartan]

if the animals ain’t help him then who did😂

[ashen perch]

he was born that way idk

[frozen aspen]

loki being half naked with that weather is wild

[steel stirrup]

Haki jacket

[frozen aspen]

how is bro not freezing to death

[steel stirrup]

Haki coat and ear muffs

[ashen rose]

Look at his size, blood is pumping HARD, he's probably naturally warm

[ashen perch]

but 2.6 just seems to be a random number unless you believe Oda specifcally chose a number that is 56% of Kaido's bounty, which I do actually

[sage temple]

Discipline

[stone terrace]

Fair arsalwise

[steel stirrup]

😭😭

[stone terrace]

Oda doesnt play about his 56

[icy wolf]

i forgot loki probably stinks so bad

[ashen perch]

he doesnt yeah

[steel stirrup]

Icon bro stop instigating

[sage temple]

Special means "e" here

[ashen perch]

man

he is just worth 2.6B, its fine

[prisma idol]

Where does 5031 come from

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/marikiplier-e-meme-lord-farquaad-gif-22138504

[pine ridge]

2.6 + 3 = 5.6

[ashen rose]

Scientific connotation

[ashen rose]

You sir, has just won the internet

[sage temple]

Not even close to 56% of Kaido

[ashen perch]

ooh, also true

[ashen perch]

round it off

[steel stirrup]

Rounded up its 2.6

[sage temple]

Rounded up it's still only 2582220000?

[steel stirrup]

No

No

To the nearest... you know what

Nevermind

[ashen perch]

you can round it off more yknow

[icy wolf]

how has loki not been taken to the wg yet if hes chained up and has a bounty of 2.6bil

why dont they just go and get him

[steel stirrup]

Bro is joking around atp

[icy wolf]

its like if kaido was in a wheelchair

[sage temple]

They don't have the key

[ashen rose]

Bro, he refused

The GK were there for that reason

[icy wolf]

i mean get some actual forces and kill/kidnap him

[ashen rose]

THEY DON'T HAVE THE KEY

[icy wolf]

hes worth 2.6bil if they kill hum or kidnap

[frigid gulch]

They don’t wanna mess with Elbaf or something

[ashen rose]

Why would you kill someone you want to hire?

[steel stirrup]

My headcanon is they expected him to die from his wounds

[ashen rose]

Probably because he's related to harold

[pine ridge]

no one wants even go near him cause he stinks

[ashen rose]

And he technically did

[frigid gulch]

He was pretty close

[steel stirrup]

Otherwise them leaving him after a few attacks seems sloppy

[frigid gulch]

He got saved

[icy wolf]

you think they left him for 6 years because they wanted him to join the holy knights

[steel stirrup]

Yea

[steel stirrup]

I think they expected him to die from the wounds

They didnt know he would literally get saved like a few panels later

[ashen rose]

Shamrock did say "if you survive this, fight me"

And then dipped, fucking bastard

[frigid gulch]

Zoro says his whole plan was to get them to free him so he could run away somewhere

And then just collapse

[ashen rose]

He did do some stuff before succumbing to blood loss

[steel stirrup]

Yea thats point to them just thinking he would die

They didnt know Gerd and Chopper would show up and save him

[frigid gulch]

Yea that was part of his whole charade

[icy wolf]

do we all believe shanks became an emperor from taking down loki or nah

correct me if im wrong but the timelines match up perfectly right

[ashen rose]

Yes

[frigid gulch]

Ye

[steel stirrup]

Makes sense

[icy wolf]

loki is a yonko level threat

[sage temple]

Yep

[ashen rose]

Exactly

Loki > big mom

[icy wolf]

i disagree for now but i guess we’ll soon see

[pine ridge]

if loki had territory that shanks took over it'd make sense

[ashen perch]

probably yea

[ashen rose]

That's just how power progress tbh

[frigid gulch]

Well we have to wait still but he’s probably relatively close

[ornate tartan]

so it’s Zoro Sanji Road Goldberg and Stansen going up the lift rn

they’re fucked😭😭😭

[ashen perch]

I gotta do the math on BM but its not close sadly

[sage temple]

Also Shanks was a coward for beating Loki apparently

[ashen rose]

we gotta see how the fight went dude

[frigid gulch]

That depends on what happened

[ashen rose]

We just know he got jumped

[sage temple]

Shanks might've cheated who knows

He might've jumped Loki

[ashen rose]

By all of Elbaph and shanks

[frigid gulch]

He also coulda simply been rage baiting Luffy

[sage temple]

Who knows

[sage temple]

Yeah

He also coulda let Shanks win

[ashen rose]

How would he know Luffy likes shanks?

[ashen perch]

slightly better than Kaido atleast

[sage temple]

Oh I forgot

[frigid gulch]

Because Luffy starts geeking out when Shanks was mentioned

[sage temple]

Loki's bounty hasn't been updated for 6 years

[frigid gulch]

[ashen rose]

True

[frigid gulch]

That’s how Loki knew

[sage temple]

Bounty inflation right

[ashen perch]

he has not lifted a finger for 6 years too

[sage temple]

?

[icy wolf]

is loki just sitting there still

[sage temple]

Loki's bounty 6 years ago might as well be 4 billion today

[icy wolf]

and what is luffy doing

[ashen rose]

Yep

[ashen perch]

in 6 years? likely not all that much

[sage temple]

Hmm so 3.6 billion

[ashen perch]

do you think Roger's bounty is actually like 7 billion

[ashen rose]

Let him yap

[sage temple]

When did Roger die

[ashen perch]

because his last bounty was 24 years ago

[icy wolf]

what is luffy doing rn

[sage temple]

Yeah but Roger is dead

[hasty sable]

Wasn’t he chained up for four years

[prisma idol]

We're still on the bounty thing?

[hasty sable]

Why would his bounty go up

[ashen perch]

I dont think it affects bounties that recent, inflation

[sage temple]

But I guess 7 billion is right

[icy wolf]

i remember luffy said he understood the situation when imu’s haki got unleashed but i remember zoro and sanji only going somewhere

[steel stirrup]

For who?

[sage temple]

Roger

[hasty sable]

Bruh lmao

[sage temple]

Bounty Inflation

[ashen perch]

100 years is a big difference, so inflation plays a role

[steel stirrup]

Mannnnn

I thought you was gonna say Loki for a sec

[sage temple]

Loki's bounty hasn't been updated since maybe 6 years ago

Or earlier

[prisma idol]

I subject you all to 1000000 more years of bounty speculation and scaling

[trim lily]

if loki's bounty went from 2.6 billion to 4 billion in 6 years just from inflation then id be worried for the one piece world's economy

[hasty sable]

You have to understand that bounty inflation only exists to retcon Dorry and Brogy to be stronger than they were at Little Garden

[sage temple]

So I expect maybe a 4-5 billion current updated bounty for Loki

[pine ridge]

he also hasnt moved for 6 years

[steel stirrup]

True

[hasty sable]

That’s literally the only reason

[sage temple]

Economy has moved for 6 years

Timezones bro

[hasty sable]

Bounty inflation isn’t real

[steel stirrup]

😭

[ashen perch]

not true

[prisma idol]

What's that inflation percent

[sage temple]

This is the fake world One Piece citizens live in

"Inflation isn't real"

[stone terrace]

I agree but logically bounty inflation should have been a thing anyway

[sage temple]

This is how prices got like this in One Piewce

[ashen perch]

Dorry and Brogy were world beaters who had terrorized the entire planet 100 years ago, they were always going to be this powerful

[prisma idol]

Don't we actually know the inflation in OP because of Dorry and Broggy

[trim lily]

a cool 65%

[sage temple]

Off of them believing it

[prisma idol]

Just apply that to loki

[pine ridge]

when we're talking centuries sure. 6 years is not a century

[hasty sable]

Nothing I said is wrong lol

[ashen perch]

we have speculated about bounty inflation for a long time, its only been confirmed now

[prisma idol]

For a 6 year period

[stone terrace]

This is a case of something being invented for military purpose but ending up being useful to the public too

[trim lily]

i believe it was close to the same as the us dollar over 100 years

[sage temple]

120% I'm pretty surfe

[hasty sable]

The One Piece world outgrew Dorry and Brogy

[digital spear]

so bounty inflation is real

[hasty sable]

So Oda invented bounty inflation

Just for them

Lol

[frigid gulch]

What about bounty deflation

[ashen perch]

I dont think he invented the concept of inflation

[hasty sable]

Don’t be stupid lmao

[pine ridge]

also real

[frigid gulch]

[hasty sable]

You know what I’m saying

[icy wolf]

deflation is when inflation rate enters the negatives right

[pine ridge]

loki's real bounty has deflated to 1000 berries

[ashen perch]

the whole thing with Dorry and Brogy was that they were stuck in ancient past

[hasty sable]

It’s a concept which applies only to Dorry and Brogy

[digital spear]

so far sure

[ashen perch]

when it applies to Rocks?

[trim lily]

yeah oda almost exactly just used an inflation calculator lol

[ashen perch]

would you take this back

[trim lily]

100 million to 1.8 billion

[digital spear]

what are you talking about

[hasty sable]

“Oda didn’t invent inflation” get out of here lmao

[frigid gulch]

56?

[prisma idol]

I mean, its the easiest option

[digital spear]

when that chapter came out I used that calculator for a lot of op bounties

[frigid gulch]

I mean

[prisma idol]

Go to 6 years ago Dolfius and input Loki's bounty

[digital spear]

this might be a good !archer3

[steel stirrup]

Ruh Roh Raggy

[trim lily]

3.12 billion

[steel stirrup]

!archer

[prisma idol]

That seems reasonable

[tropic nova]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/486983010025996299/700441323983077426/unknown.png

[prisma idol]

Roughly around Luffy level like I said

[steel stirrup]

!archer2

[tropic nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/486983010025996299/736811845947490345/unknown.png

[ashen perch]

idk what to tell you, I am just saying that the concept of a 100 years old bounty being lower valued than it is now is perfectly reasonably something that always was gonna happen

[steel stirrup]

Holy shit Archer

2 commands

[digital spear]

he has lore

[hasty sable]

From Joe to Nomiya to Jonas what an arc

[steel stirrup]

!yc

[tropic nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/486983010025996299/749239684865064990/unknown.png

[steel stirrup]

LMAOO

[trim lily]

yonko country returns

[steel stirrup]

!snod

[tropic nova]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1201223190173732864/1207741203743776808/image.png?ex=65e0bfa5&is=65ce4aa5&hm=936a37c3d0b044cb603c059aedbdb4f95bbba1ac58138804ee9698c033b086d7&

[digital spear]

honestly I thought your pfp was Anakin Skywalker

[steel stirrup]

!arsal

[hasty sable]

Close enough tbh

Everyone watch Dark

[prisma idol]

I managed a whole tenure and didn't get a command

[steel stirrup]

I expected feet to show up

[ashen perch]

I dont think Oda was planning to have Dorry and Brogy's bounty being only a bit above Crocodile's frozen bounty back in Little Garden, that would be absurd for two men who ruled the world

[steel stirrup]

Who's next

!bluko

[tranquil blade]

[trim lily]

tragic

[hasty sable]

I do think he meant for Dorry and Brogy to be exactly that strong back then

[steel stirrup]

!thigh

[hasty sable]

Besides Croc got retconned too

[rose rune]

I don't have a command since I'm a pretty smart and sensible guy

[hasty sable]

He’s way stronger now than he was in Alabasta

[ashen perch]

Croc got stronger

[steel stirrup]

So there's definitely one out there

I'll find it

[icy wolf]

i think croc gonna be admiral level

[pine ridge]

how do we know that loki's bounty hasnt gone down at the perfect rate to offset inflation

[ashen perch]

at the same time, frozen bounties are also a product of Oda having the foresight to not reveal higher numbers earlier than he needs to

[prisma idol]

I mean you technically did with the Vasco shot one

[steel stirrup]

Smart I agree

Sensible remains to be seen

[hasty sable]

It’s not foresight

[ashen perch]

nothing is

[rose rune]

[hasty sable]

He didn’t plan for bounty inflation and the giants being ten times stronger than they actually were

[steel stirrup]

Glad i dont have one holy shit

[hasty sable]

He just did it to catch them up so they wouldn’t be irrelevant

[trim lily]

i mean yeah

[steel stirrup]

!dolfius

[ashen perch]

the giants defeated a creature who was eating up entire islands with utter ease

[trim lily]

i have no legacy

[hasty sable]

Stop, arsal

[tranquil blade]

The island eater was pretty big

[ashen perch]

its not absurd

[rose rune]

!pasta

[tropic nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/486983010025996299/735731575647502337/unknown.png

[ashen perch]

Dorry and Brogy were clearly meant to be top tiers who couldnt show their strengths properly, I knew that when I was watching Little Garden for the first time

[steel stirrup]

LMAOOO

[hasty sable]

No you did not lmao

[ashen perch]

that is how Oda depicts them

[digital spear]

actually Croc Dorry & Broggy are simila in that case because they got that strength retcon and also were introduced around the same time with bounties that were high back then (81 and 100 million) and their new bounties are also around the same (1.8 and 1.9 billion) only that Crocs inflation is only by 20 years but still higher because its not just a defreeze but also the shit he did as a warlord, marineford and now cross guild

[prisma idol]

You're just like rocks, you wont leave behind your name but your legacy will be felt by the friends you made

[ashen perch]

there is no retcon in the case of Dorry and Brogy

[steel stirrup]

[ashen perch]

Crocodile yes, he is stronger because he was defeated too early, but he makes up for it by simply training to get stronger post ts so there is that

[digital spear]

its the same case as with Crocodile, he was also supposed to be stronger in the grand scheme of things

[pine ridge]

dorry and broggy were training for 100 years as well

[trim lily]

[ashen perch]

this isnt true lol, he lost to that Luffy

[steel stirrup]

Fighting to the death for 100 years has to be the wildest training arc so far

[sage temple]

tsk tsk

[digital spear]

yes but Oda didnt know the series would go for that much longer and Luffy receive so many more powerups after that

[trim lily]

nah youve cemented your legacy already

[prisma idol]

https://tenor.com/view/byuntear-cat-mocking-gif-13935821400850516732

[rose rune]

all that training, just to be flipped in a few seconds

[ashen perch]

Crocodile wasnt supposed to be stronger than the Luffy he lost to, Crocodile was made stronger so he can still hang around people who are stronger than the Luffy he lost to

[trim lily]

we dont need a command for it

[sage temple]

Aw thanks dolfius

[pine ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/get-rotated-get-rotated-idiot-rotate-rotation-shark-gif-24511062

[hasty sable]

I don’t know that he was meant to be stronger in the grand scheme of things. I don’t think Oda knew the power ceiling would rise that high. I don’t think he knew Dorry and Brogy would be relevant again or that they needed to be that strong.

[trim lily]

im always here to make also manga wholesome again

[ashen perch]

its not the same with Dorry and Brogy, who were always portrayed as world conqueror level threats

[digital spear]

thats what im saying about Croc

[rose rune]

we know Oda loves sharks, so this was probably his inspiration for domi reversi

[steel stirrup]

!socrates

And its just someone bowing down to a poster of Loki

[sage temple]

Bountyscaling is js crazy

[prisma idol]

Also manga lost their whimsy when rocks showed up

[ashen perch]

???????????

[steel stirrup]

Why is that

[ashen perch]

that last line is just absurd archer

[sage temple]

[digital spear]

Arlong upscale

[hasty sable]

It’s really not considering Oda was even going to skip Elbaf at one point

[ashen perch]

He didnt think Dorry and Brogy were going to be relevant again??

[prisma idol]

Everything comes back to blue

[ashen perch]

okay

[trim lily]

i thought this was the blue horse

[digital spear]

BLUE HORSE

[hasty sable]

The giants did not have to return

[prisma idol]

Im in your head

[rose rune]

what we think is a crown is actually arlong's nose

[hasty sable]

The arc ended with them staying on Little Garden

[ashen perch]

what Oda though, thats what you dont know

[trim lily]

the infection spreads

[pine ridge]

was he?

[hasty sable]

Yeah

[ashen perch]

I strongly doubt that Oda from 25 years ago was not planning to draw Elbaf when that was his inspiration for One Piece

[rose rune]

do you think Oda has blue light in his bathroom so that he won't be able to see his own veins?

[steel stirrup]

This would be my command but I would be the wife

Rocks or Blackbeard would be Kevin

And the other girl would be Penny or Arsal

[ashen perch]

he contemplated skipping it 24 years later when he was older, and in a hurry to finish the series

[hasty sable]

I think he probably was going to do Elbaf but it wouldn’t be the Elbaf we have now

[digital spear]

why does Kevin Hart have the funniest images

[thick mango]

thats not even the same oda, it works like the prestiege

[ashen perch]

but it doesnt matter, because he realized that was stupid

[hasty sable]

He had a loose idea in his head that Elbaf would be a location at some point until it wasn’t and then it was again

[steel stirrup]

Bro clips farms for a living

[prisma idol]

[rose rune]

oh damn, I didn't know Oda made three of these

[hasty sable]

And Dorry and Brogy didn’t have to be involved

[ashen perch]

it was only not a location for like 10 minutes I bet

[hasty sable]

10 minutes 52 seconds

[prisma idol]

I just looked through my stickers of which I've used 1,200+ of and so many are just blue horse

[digital spear]

who knows what chaarcters "have to be" and who dont

we only know some characters definitely have to exist like Luffy

[steel stirrup]

You may have a problem

[ashen perch]

"I almost didnt go to Elbaf" looks like Oda sitting down to structure that final saga in that month long break and thinking "hmm giants could be involved without the SHs going there" and then realizing "ooh Usopp, Nika, Vikings, nvm"

its not something I take seriously

[rose rune]

I still think this just means Imu will die to Poseidon

[hasty sable]

Call me crazy but I am pretty sure you could cut Grus

[steel stirrup]

Bro remembered he made a promise to Usopp

They already took his melanin away dont take away Elbaf too

[hasty sable]

Usopp? Who’s that?

[rose rune]

the one with the long nose in galleila

[prisma idol]

I-It's usopp's arc...

[hasty sable]

Is that some side character they left in Dressrosa

[ashen perch]

he is not ready, youre not ready, nobody is ready

[thick mango]

usopp is that guy who's friends with sogeking

[digital spear]

I mean you can just make a list of who makes it into important One Piece and who doesnt like that one video did

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-kaku-one-piece-kaku-water7-water-seven-gif-24828665

[hot cairn]

this is not true

[steel stirrup]

Im kinda interested in Grus

Koby called him "Your Highness"

What if bro is the son of a CD and decided to be a Marine and somewhere in that ended up joining SWORD that storyline interests me

[prisma idol]

The sad thing is, even if usopp does something cool, people will still think its not enough. He won't ever live up to expectations and if nothing happens they will continue to hate

[hasty sable]

Grus is just the prince of an affiliated nation most likely

[digital spear]

what if the island Oda considered skipping wasnt Elbaf and it was an island Oda actually skipped

[ashen perch]

he will do so much that people will not be able to say that its not enough

[hasty sable]

If he was a CD he wouldn’t be a marine

[steel stirrup]

Even that would be interesting

[ruby moat]

I assumed him having “prince” in his name was jus like a stylistic choice but it’d be cool if he’s actual royalty

[steel stirrup]

Koby called him "Your Highness" remember?

[prisma idol]

I dont

[steel stirrup]

I think he is actually a Prince

[hasty sable]

I don’t actually care about Grus I could take or leave him. He’s not going to be doing much anyway except whine about how Koby is mildly cooler than him

[ruby moat]

I don’t remember but it could be chalked up to simply having prince in his name

[steel stirrup]

Maybe it was Toei filler

Surprised me

[ruby moat]

True Grus is just there to make Koby look better

[icy wolf]

who is grus

[steel stirrup]

Is he one or not im interested in him

[ashen perch]

Grus can be a prince of some country, thats it

[thick mango]

clay net guy in sword

[icy wolf]

is that the guy on pirate island that was a marine

in sword

he looked cool

[steel stirrup]

Dude with the long hat

[ruby moat]

With the big ass hat yea

[urban lodge]

I wouldn't want to live in a world without Grus

[steel stirrup]

Clay Clay fruit

[icy wolf]

hold on let me check rq

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-grus-one-piece-prince-grus-grus-gruce-gif-10344921531138232842

[digital spear]

Oda: "I also considered not going there but I thought I might not stop Luffy ... but then I remembered Im the author and told Luffy to fucking shut up and hes not gonna go there"

[icy wolf]

yeah its who i was thinking of im surprised i remembered him

[trim lily]

man poor grus

he deserves better

[icy wolf]

he has clay fruit?

[hot cairn]

Elbaph wasnt going to be skipped that was just Oda messing around

[steel stirrup]

Also Helmeppo and Hibari were bowing down to him but that could be because they were begging for his help

[icy wolf]

where does akainu being the father of hibari come from

its not confirmed right

[trim lily]

theres some hints/connections here and there

[ashen perch]

yeah I dont take it seriously, he maybe thought about it for 5 minutes when he was thinking of ending the series in like 5 years but thats it

[hasty sable]

Oda could have drawn Elbaf as an oneshot and I think it would have been cool

[digital spear]

if anything it makes it more obvious that elbaf was oligatory. Oda possibly couldnt skip that"

[trim lily]

biggest one being that theyre the only two characters to share the same dialect

[urban lodge]

It's not confirmed but they're the only two characters who speak that dialect

[hasty sable]

But now we have Kaido 2.0 and Rocks so it all works out

[prisma idol]

Yeah I scrolled through vs Hachinosu and he only refers to Grus as Prince

[icy wolf]

i really like hibari being the daughter of akainu because rn akainu has 0 redeeming qualities or anything interesting about him and 0 good dynamics, just really anything to make him likable

[urban lodge]

And they're from the same sea

[ashen perch]

they speak the same dialect, theres the spinoff thing that is a little hard to explain but guy who looks like Koby there has a love interest that looks like Hibari who has a father that looks like Akainu

[urban lodge]

I would love it

[trim lily]

it would also just be fun for the family drama

[urban lodge]

Oda needs to confirm it already

[ruby moat]

Vivre cards confirm Hibari and Akainu are from the same sea as well

I think it was south blue

[trim lily]

hibari brings over her new boyfriend for akainu to meet and its koby

[ashen perch]

yeah theres the same sea thing too

[icy wolf]

its very cute

[digital spear]

I know Oda dodging those "is Hibari Akainus daughter" questions for 5 volume now

[prisma idol]

Hibari x Koby

[digital spear]

just reveal it

[icy wolf]

i would like to see akainu soft side

[hot cairn]

when Oda thought of ending the manga in "3 years" (impossible)

[prisma idol]

Oda please

[trim lily]

oh shit new one piece academy chapter dropped

[hasty sable]

Don’t have strong feelings about the Hibari thing except I don’t want Akainu to have redeeming qualities

[trim lily]

i almost forgot

[prisma idol]

Make Hibari Akainu's dad

Wait

[hasty sable]

I want to hate him and feel good when Sabo beats him

[prisma idol]

No

[trim lily]

id like if he was a good father

[hot cairn]

a oneshot? wdym

[ashen perch]

and its a very distinct dialect, its the Hiroshima dialect and they are the only 2 characters in the series to speak it

[runic dock]

Even sengoku has a little redeeming quality

[prisma idol]

Make hibari Akainu's daughter

[runic dock]

But he’s mostly ass

[digital spear]

isnt it cool that One Piece is gonna end in 2024/2025 guys

[runic dock]

[hot cairn]

so glue

[hasty sable]

Yeah but Sakazuki is supposed to be “worse” than Sengoku

[icy wolf]

prediction: hibari will die and it will be used to gas up akainu and koby

[trim lily]

no

[ruby moat]

To be fair Koby is like the exact opposite of Akainu and Hibari is super into him

[prisma idol]

No

[hasty sable]

I want him to just be a hatable villain

[runic dock]

I think they’re like different flavors

Of the same meat

[ruby moat]

If Hibari knows about Akainus true nature I’m sure she wouldn’t like it

[trim lily]

at least akainu is dedicated to what he does

[ashen perch]

yeah he was thinking up stupid things at some point but he was probably overly worrying about his lifespan in a rough time period so its w/e, I dont believe we need to take things he contemplated seriously

[trim lily]

sengoku trying to act like hes a wholesome chungus now

[runic dock]

Look the other way? Nah I’ll look aright at them , downward

[hot cairn]

me too

[hasty sable]

Sengoku truly the Cheney of One Piece

[digital spear]

this chapter fortunately shows Oda remembers that he sint

[prisma idol]

Koby saved Hibari at the rocky port incident or just some random pirate attacm or pehaps he helped her during her trianing and that's why she likes him so much because he is her hero trust

[urban lodge]

I love Sword, I need more of them

[hot cairn]

LOL I want to know what was going through Oda's mind when he said that

[runic dock]

Sengoku looked the other way in regards to law too

[icy wolf]

i like koby and hibari alot from what we've briefly seen

[digital spear]

he saved her plush

[runic dock]

Holy shit

[prisma idol]

Oh yeah

[runic dock]

Bro is committed to looking the other way

[trim lily]

i hope x drake finally gets out of bed

[pine ridge]

• Zoro

[icy wolf]

sabo and koala might be the worst relationship in the series

[hasty sable]

L Drake hahaha

[urban lodge]

Lmao

[trim lily]

i wonder how many people have forgotten hes the leader of sword

[icy wolf]

they put the 2 most boring characters together

[prisma idol]

Man its been so long I need to refresh myself on the lore

[ashen perch]

give it some time, SWORD-mania is coming and they are going to be major characters in the Hachinosu War

[runic dock]

That “relationship” is forced by the fandom , it’s a friendship at best

[hasty sable]

Drake should have died in Wano so Koby could become Sword Captain

[hot cairn]

that 3 year line was absurd lmao, that's when I knew he was bugging

[icy wolf]

looks like a relationship to me bro

[digital spear]

I think people want to forget that willingly

[runic dock]

People when they see a boy standing next to a girl for more than 2 panels be like “shipping!”

[ashen perch]

yea lmao

[hasty sable]

I also think Drake should have died to save Tama

[digital spear]

he probably is

going to

[steel stirrup]

I just reread

He calls Grus "Prince"

But in the anime Toei translated it as "Your Highness"

[ashen perch]

Drake isnt dying and he is staying the SWORD captain

[digital spear]

Drake is gonna give Coby the leading role of Sword

[ruby moat]

Interesting

[hasty sable]

Drake actually traumatized Tama and destroyed her village

[ashen perch]

you guys are just mad that he is the Sengoku to Koby's Garp (except the evil part)

[runic dock]

Drake is gonna fight Koby for the title of king of the marines

[hasty sable]

Have him actually reckon with that

And actually do justice for once in his life

[hot cairn]

I'm the only Dias Drake fan in here

[runic dock]

Marine king Koby

[ashen perch]

no I am wtf

I am supposed to be the only X Drake fan here

[hot cairn]

I'm excited for more Sword, I like all of those characters

[ashen perch]

same

[digital spear]

I dont hate Drake but hes gonna give the Sword captain role to Coby next time we see them

[hot cairn]

you cant be everything my guy

[trim lily]

jesus stealing the valour of being an x drake fan

[hasty sable]

Being a Drake fan is masochistic

Get therapy tbh

[urban lodge]

I want to like him but he's so boring

[ashen perch]

he isnt gonna do that and youre gonna see

[steel stirrup]

Who Drake?

[runic dock]

I hope he hands him a badge or like a name card

[hot cairn]

no he's not he's about to cook

[urban lodge]

I think he will cook though

[runic dock]

That says it

[wraith mantle]

i still have no idea how the elbaf conflict will be resolved

will it be another escape mission or will luffy and co defeat/drive off imu??

[urban lodge]

Yes

[hot cairn]

we're about to get more Sword soon

[hasty sable]

I think Drake won’t do much

[ruby moat]

Drake x

[steel stirrup]

We probably gon be running again

[runic dock]

Oh wait

Sword needs to fight aegis 0

[wraith mantle]

shit man thats gonna be boring as hell

[runic dock]

Because shield

[ashen perch]

Being a Drake fan is how I get to feel an ounce of what a Kid fan has to go through in their minds even though we go through so much more

[hasty sable]

He might “lead” Sword but it will really be about Koby

[wraith mantle]

luffy needs to get a W as a yonko asap

[hot cairn]

we aint running again

[hasty sable]

Drake did his arc when he redeemed himself by failing to save Luffy

[runic dock]

Sword vs cp0 soon , clash of ideals

[hot cairn]

so true

[ornate tartan]

I predict a gunko cameo in the next chapter

[wraith mantle]

hope so

[pine ridge]

at least we know you can stop domi reversi without killing the person

[steel stirrup]

Leader of SWORD i would put him in Dragon's ilk of "clearly he's strong" but he didn't do as well against Hawkins as I would've hoped

[wraith mantle]

just use more haki huh?

[ashen perch]

I guess we're gonna have Harald meeting the Gorosei soon

[pine ridge]

more mass

or smth

gotta put your soul into it

all 21 grams

[hasty sable]

Take your bets on how Harald will fumble next

[prisma yacht]

Hmm mariejois scenes yeahh

[formal wagon]

Massachusetts

[steel stirrup]

Mannnnn

[wraith mantle]

yall keep dunking on harald

[steel stirrup]

Don't get me started

[wraith mantle]

but he will get a major W soon

[hot cairn]

he's cooking, people arent ready for what's about to come soon with Sword

[digital spear]

Drake: I realized being a pirate is much cooler guys Im gonna leave the marines Coby you can be the captain of Sword Im gonna join the Heart Pirates
Law: I have decided to join Sword
Drake: bwuh?

[ornate tartan]

no episode tmrw right?

[icy wolf]

anyone else got faith in harald

[steel stirrup]

!animo

[tropic nova]

Next episode comes out on <t:1764518400:F> <t:1764518400:R>. CR has been late recently so give it around 10-20 minutes (time zone adjusted)

[steel stirrup]

Nope

[runic dock]

He will probably fumble again but I think he does something to hiccup their whole plans before he goes out to Domi reversi , when Sommers came to elbaf in current timeline he said IF IT WASNT FOR THAT HARALD

he did something

[wraith mantle]

I do

he was rocks friend

[hasty sable]

He will come around in the end and then die lol

[runic dock]

They don’t actively take over the giants till NOW

[hot cairn]

how many chapters left do you think the flashback has arsal

[wraith mantle]

all the evidence I need

[steel stirrup]

Bro pissed me off

[runic dock]

He did something to pause their progress with elbaf

[hasty sable]

0% lol

[stone terrace]

Faith? Hes dead

[steel stirrup]

LMAOOOO

[icy wolf]

oda wont just have a guy rocks looked up to and lokis dad who is also a complete powerhouse be a loser thats sucking imus dick 24/7 and we already know he messed up in the wg's eyes, if anything harald stocks should be up

[ashen perch]

4-5-ish

[digital spear]

Harald is alive. count the teeth

[ornate tartan]

Me
I don’t condone what he’s doing right now but I understand why

I believe he will have a good development in the next couple of weeks

[runic dock]

Sommers said Harald did something so , besides him being a pathetic sad sack , story wise something has to happen

[hot cairn]

LOL

[icy wolf]

agreed

[hasty sable]

He will until the end then his death will be peak like Oden but we’ll still dunk on him years later

[ashen perch]

"we"

🙂‍↕️

[hasty sable]

Join us

[pine ridge]

if mosa is harald I will riot

[hasty sable]

(Just me)

[prisma yacht]

😂😂

[steel stirrup]

Slow down there buckaroo

[hot cairn]

same

[digital spear]

I only recently learned people still did that with Oden

[ashen perch]

We will not be Dunkin on Harald, just like we do not dunk on Oden actually

[hasty sable]

https://tenor.com/view/oden-dance-one-piece-kozuki-gif-21215699

[urban lodge]

Goat

[ornate tartan]

let em dance

[digital spear]

what if harald danced for 15 years

[hasty sable]

I hate him so much

[steel stirrup]

Yall dunk on Oden?

For what

[ashen perch]

Piratefolk is the only place that can't get over that shit and thats because Oden killed their puppies

[stone terrace]

I have criticisms of odens choices

[hasty sable]

Oden is fun to bully

[digital spear]

jealous of his dancing skill

[runic dock]

LMAO wtf , there’s not a chance in hell

[stone terrace]

But harald is a different level

[hot cairn]

Oden hate is undeserved too

[runic dock]

Theories are starting to get real random

Beyond homie wheel jinbei

[steel stirrup]

Yes but he still saved hostages with each dance

[stone terrace]

Thats why hes better than harald

[steel stirrup]

Facts

[stone terrace]

There were tangible results

[formal wagon]

NGL anyone that criticizes something i like is lowkey misguided and low media literacy tbh lowkeyley

[wet condor]

Oden should've just fought too tbh

[runic dock]

You should work on that

[hasty sable]

Harald is worse than Oden, but I can’t get over Oden dropping by to get a road Penelope and not even listening to the warnings about Orochi. Plus the five years of slavery he let his people go through by trusting the villains.

[digital spear]

so glue

[runic dock]

Road Penelope

[wet condor]

But he neglected his responsibilities as Shogun

[formal wagon]

they should work on their media literacy. Oden is goated.

[hot cairn]

they're doing the "random bullshit GO" move from Moonknight

[steel stirrup]

I'll give bro three more chapters to prove me wrong and I will admit it if he does same way I apologized for all the Garp slander

[wet condor]

That's really what his issue was

[ornate tartan]

when u wanna dance u forget about all of those things

[runic dock]

[hasty sable]

NOT changing it

[runic dock]

I like it

Should’ve been that instead

[wraith mantle]

road penelope 😭

[ashen perch]

The criticism of the dance ended within the series itself, Oda himself allowed you to criticize them for a few weeks and then revealed that each of them was saving the lives of hundreds of slaves that Orochi was ready to murder as soon as Oden lifted a finger against them

[digital spear]

honestly Oda wrote that part really awkwardly

[hasty sable]

I don’t think the justifications for the dance absolve oden

And tbh more people should hate Oden in-universe

[wet condor]

Oden lead to his country's enslavement through inaction while Harald directly (would've) caused his people's

[ashen perch]

they do

[steel stirrup]

Yep

[stone terrace]

At the very least as soon as youre done with your journey have whitebeard and roger pull up

[wraith mantle]

i love how oda creates so many characters and so many stories for them characters

[hasty sable]

He definitely has a lot of the blame in the state of Wano in the present day

[wraith mantle]

this mf is a genius

[runic dock]

But in real talk , if oden didn’t ignore his country for a bit , Roger would have never found the one piece

Butterfly effect

[ashen perch]

Oden did fight, thats the first thing he did, he ran up to Orochis castle, clashed with Kaido and thats when the hostages were revealed to him

[hasty sable]

It’s true

[runic dock]

Everything played into the next thing

[hasty sable]

But they could have stopped and taken our Kaido and Orochi first

[wet condor]

Of course Arsal but that's not what we're talking about

[hasty sable]

[formal wagon]

roger finding it didn't matter anyway though

[hasty sable]

Oden didn’t even listen

[wet condor]

We're talking about him trusting the words of Kaido and Orochi

[hasty sable]

His people were endlaved for TWENTY YEARS

[ashen perch]

He had no other choice lol

[wet condor]

That was dumb. And Kaido points it out

[hasty sable]

Like duuuude

[runic dock]

Now people know it existed and it gave luffy a driving goal , without that Luffy wouldn’t have even learned there’s a thing called one piece till he’s like 26 or some shit

[ashen perch]

Again, hostages

[runic dock]

It started a great age of piracy for a reason

[hasty sable]

And then Oden still went to fight Kaido anyway so what then

[wet condor]

Well, a lot of people died over them 20 years

[hasty sable]

He’s a dumbass

[ashen perch]

Yeah, after he killed a few of the hostages anyways

[digital spear]

because the 5 years were over

[steel stirrup]

Didn't one of the women who saw Oden get executed realize that he was the reason she was still alive in the first place and cried

[runic dock]

100 hostages kaido

[ashen perch]

The deal was off, he shouldn't have trusted them, but he still saved many lives with each dance

[hasty sable]

He’s gonna do that anyway and way more people died because of Oden’s choices than if he had acted in the first place

[steel stirrup]

Or was that Toei filler also

[ashen perch]

How do you know way more people died what

[hasty sable]

And it wasn’t all selfless. The first time he straight up ignored the problem because he wanted to see Roger’s voyage

[formal wagon]

oh yeah true

[stone terrace]

Same lesson

[wet condor]

P much

[digital spear]

didnt his wife force him to go

[runic dock]

People die when they are killed , vivi

[hasty sable]

Yeah she sucks too

[ashen perch]

Yes YC

[steel stirrup]

Vivi?

[ashen perch]

And it saved the world

[blazing mantle]

😱

[formal wagon]

vivi 💀

[digital spear]

Vivi moment

[wet condor]

She gave him her blessing

[runic dock]

Vivi is like “not in this manga”

[formal wagon]

vivi 💀

[steel stirrup]

You've gone too far

[blazing mantle]

Vivi

[wet condor]

I don't know if she "forced" him

[hot cairn]

he's talking about Toki

[runic dock]

She egged him on at least for sure

[ashen perch]

Toki understood the importance of finding the One Piece and fulfilling what Joyboy wanted them to do, what about it

[wet condor]

Oden wasn't meant to be a Shogun

[runic dock]

Supported

[digital spear]

she told him if he didnt go shed divorce him

[wet condor]

Did she really?

[runic dock]

Lmfao

[ashen perch]

She forced him, very clearly

[digital spear]

yes lol

[ashen perch]

Yeah

[runic dock]

Oh yeah

[wet condor]

I'm misremembering

[ashen perch]

It was there in the manga

[steel stirrup]

Yep

[urban lodge]

Also Luffy: "Ace, you said you would never die..."

[hasty sable]

He definitely could have made a pit stop and dealt with Kaido while he had fucking GOL D. ROGER with him before they left and the enemy built up their army

[wet condor]

Well, Toki abetted that then lol

[steel stirrup]

Toki said "if you pussy out I'm getting a divorce"

[stone terrace]

So what we're saying is

Its the womans fault

[wet condor]

lmaooo

I knew you was going there Icon

[steel stirrup]

😭😭

[runic dock]

They knew the voyage was just as important if not more important by then

[steel stirrup]

Damn it Icon

[wet condor]

Ida and Toki

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/nodding-soyjak-pissluffare-soy-gif-25061889

[runic dock]

It led the domino effect

Into luffy finding op now

[ashen perch]

Its not the woman's fault, its the importance of the mission here

Finding the One Piece

[hasty sable]

It’s Oden’s fault

[ashen perch]

She knew its significance, thats all

[wet condor]

Wow lol

[hasty sable]

She’s crazy for this

[steel stirrup]

Nah I like Ida but im conflicted because shes the reason Harald is such a soft bitch rn

[ashen perch]

She knew how important fulfilling what Joyboy wanted was

[wet condor]

I don't have particularly strong feelings about either of them. Ida obviously is a decent person. So is Toki

[runic dock]

She’s from the past she gets it

[formal wagon]

toxic

[hasty sable]

They’re good people who made

[formal wagon]

cancel toki

[hasty sable]

A really really bad choice

[formal wagon]

please

thanks

[digital spear]

yeah I did it

[steel stirrup]

Not denying she is a good person

I just wish Harald didn't allow her to make him into such a punk bruh

[runic dock]

It’s all cause of ida that Harald groveled like a dog to the wg , domino effect

[hasty sable]

In-universe it is rationalized but not justified imo

[digital spear]

I just cancelled T*ki

[hasty sable]

A lot of people were enslaved and killed because of Oden’s stupidity and selfishness

[wet condor]

Oden's disposition was just bad for being the ruler of a nation in general

[steel stirrup]

Yep

I dont hate her

[wet condor]

He was born into that role but wasn't born for it

[steel stirrup]

But I wish she would go away for a bit lmaoo

[ashen perch]

I feel like we're going to have some sort of conflict between Ida and Harald, like she is going to be the one who will be balancing it out for him, pull him away from the WG and get killed for it subsequently

[steel stirrup]

Made my boy into a softie

I hate it

[ashen perch]

I don't think this is what she wanted Harald to do, and I think she is going to object to it

[hasty sable]

Harald should go to war with the world actually

[digital spear]

this is what WOMEN do to the world

[runic dock]

Harald jumping from one extreme to the next without finding a middle ground smh

[icy wolf]

what happened to lokis mom btw

i forgot

[hasty sable]

Ida is fine though

[runic dock]

Kill everyone ! Dont every touch anyone

[digital spear]

died

[wet condor]

Harald's just made some bad choices

[steel stirrup]

Exactly bruh

[celest mauve]

it's entirely on harald what he chose to do

[hasty sable]

I don’t hate women guys

[ashen perch]

Died in a year of Loki's birth

[icy wolf]

after she gave birth to loki what happened to her

[hot cairn]

speedreader

[pine ridge]

dead

[hot cairn]

she died

[steel stirrup]

Nah this is what a simp does when he finds a woman

[icy wolf]

shes just so irrelevant

[steel stirrup]

Don't blame women for ts

[icy wolf]

not my fault

[digital spear]

ALWAYS blame w*men

[wet condor]

Harald made his choices, yeah. If you want to put some of it on Ida, I mean, I don't care really

[steel stirrup]

Harald is still making these dumbass decisions

[hot cairn]

this chat hated her for weeks

[ashen perch]

But yea, just a feeling but hold your horses on Ida, this is not what she wanted and I bet she objects to it

[steel stirrup]

I refuse

[runic dock]

Harald is a walking contradiction : he shaved his head to reflect the Buddhist oath but he never found the middle way

Smh

[steel stirrup]

Damn shame

[digital spear]

poetic...

[formal wagon]

Loki is a sitting contradiction: he contradicts himself and he has been sitting for quite a while ebcause he was all chained up and stuff

[digital spear]

yeah it was kinda awkardly written imo I wish Ida rather made Harald find more of a middleground so that he still joined Rocks later

[ashen perch]

Glue

[steel stirrup]

I need Ida to leave this man anything less is a fumble

[runic dock]

Got em

[digital spear]

o glue

[hasty sable]

Ida cannot be blamed for the idiocy of her dumbass husband

[pine ridge]

I still do

[runic dock]

It’s not about don’t ever kill anyone again , people should approach situations with the context needed for that situation and not apply everything evenly

[leaden rivet]

Just wondering how she’s going to down

[ashen perch]

There was no middle ground where Joining Rocks was an option

[runic dock]

Sometimes you may need to get rid of a bad guy

That’s just the world

[ornate tartan]

U have to understand there was a point in time where Harald was by far the strongest person on the seas, well before the time of rocks roger etc, he basically ran the New World and no one could challenge him, so this last chapter was a very big character development moment for him putting his pride aside for the people of his country that he loves

[leaden rivet]

If WG said “kill Ida and then we’ll let you join” I wonder if he’d take it

[urban lodge]

Garling will be there 14 years ago and will kill her

[ashen perch]

Rocks is an evil villain who died like a dog and he deserved much worse

[steel stirrup]

You could not do that and also not offer yourself up for slavery

Ijs

[ashen perch]

Sure yea

[digital spear]

I too think Garling will be involved there

[icy wolf]

how do we feel about domi reversi loki btw

[runic dock]

Yeah I recognize that too

[runic dock]

That’s the final battle for luffy in elbaf

[digital spear]

feeling mulmy

[leaden rivet]

Final boss of Elbaf

[steel stirrup]

I understand that but this is not the way for me

[icy wolf]

to me its looking very likely bro ngl

[formal wagon]

that's lucci

[digital spear]

domi reversi lucci

[hasty sable]

I think Elbaf could reign in it’s Viking without becoming servants of the empire actually

[formal wagon]

to me its looking like a big scary monster that i'm scared of

[runic dock]

Domi rocks -> Domi Harald -> Domi loki current time

This fb was about domi

[steel stirrup]

Bro would still get low diffed

[runic dock]

Introduction

[formal wagon]

to me its looking like sauce, and not the awesome kind

[icy wolf]

no idea how luffy would possibly beat domi reversi'd loki if it took garp and roger strongest attack at the same time to break domi reversi

[ashen perch]

I need Ida's thoughts on this, I hope Oda focuses on how she feels about it as she is the one who can pull Harald out of the hole he is digging, lead him towards the path of the Harald that screwed everything up for the Government

[steel stirrup]

Dorry and Broggy are already DR why Loki too?

[leaden rivet]

Imu will domi Loki and then run away in Imu fashion. Then Luffy defeats Loki and helps him up is my bet

[runic dock]

I wonder how the powers of nika mix with domi

[digital spear]

base lucci is already yonko level I dont want to imagine how strong domi reversi lucci might be.

[runic dock]

It’s like a science experiment

It needs to be tested lol

[leaden rivet]

Of course Zoro and Sanji fight Dorry and Brogy

[icy wolf]

maybe shanks will pull up on elbaf as a surpise and oneshot him since hes the haki posterboy

[ashen perch]

Almost 99.99% happening

[formal wagon]

to me..... mememememememememe i'm doing vocal warmups

[digital spear]

meme

[formal wagon]

btw egghead ends in december

[hot cairn]

I'm starting to think this is what will go down

[formal wagon]

in case anyone forgot

[runic dock]

That’s a much bigger threat for the final boss of the arc and we ain’t fighting imu here to death and we ain’t fighting the Hk as final villains they will easily become pushovers as soon as Zoro and the rest get up there

[ashen perch]

I am also ending in December if you keep this up

Maybe November even

[pine ridge]

he might even push zoro past low diff

[steel stirrup]

Yuck

[urban lodge]

Loki aura farms for 2 chapters and then he gets turned

[leaden rivet]

Maybe prior to that we get a scene of Imu demonstrating the difference in strength between him and Luffy then running away

[steel stirrup]

And this is how we find out that Two Nikas flip the table back

[formal wagon]

well we all have a little egghead in us

[icy wolf]

imu is gonna try their hardest to kill luffy this arc, imu killed saturn for letting him get away on egghead

[ashen perch]

Imuko is going to bully Loki and Luffy and then turn Loki and leave or get pushed out by Brook

[hot cairn]

that would be cool

[runic dock]

That may be , idk how it’s gonna mix with domi powers , nika in front of domi will be veryyyy interesting

[leaden rivet]

Imu killed Saturn for letting Joyboy intervene on egghead

[digital spear]

farming my aura

[leaden rivet]

Ir wasn’t really about letting Luffy escape

Or else the other gorosei would’ve gotten it

[steel stirrup]

If Imu killed Saturn for letting him get away and then also just says fuck it when they find out Joyboy is here that would be a fumble imo

[ashen perch]

Imu is probably intrigued by Luffy like he was probably intrigued by where Xebec will lead to

[digital spear]

its time for the Mother Flame

[steel stirrup]

But it would do a good job of showing how childish they are

[runic dock]

Yeah imu definitely killed him cause of joyboy that triggered imu lol

[steel stirrup]

And impatient

And impulsive

[leaden rivet]

Saturn hid things and disobeyed orders and then fucked up one more time and Imu had enough

[hot cairn]

Luffy vs Gunko/Imu will happen even if it's for 2 chapters

[ashen perch]

Yeah for sure

[hot cairn]

Luffy and Loki vs Gunko/Imu

and Loki gets turned

[steel stirrup]

Yea Saturn had to die

He let Emeth live and then basically created a 2nd Nika

[urban lodge]

If Luffy lands even one punch I might have to start hating Luffy

[ashen perch]

Well 1 chapter maybe, Kaido v Luffy was a chapter

[hot cairn]

cmon now LOL

[icy wolf]

loki is injured rn i think theres obvious setup for domi reversi

[steel stirrup]

Damn bro chill

[hot cairn]

Luffy isnt getting like what Kaido did to him

that aint ever happening again

[urban lodge]

It's not about that smh

[steel stirrup]

I do agree tho if Luffy gets anything other than Neg diffed wtf are we doing

[ashen perch]

It was a series of Luffy hitting attack after attack that did absolutely nothing to Kaido, so we'll get that with Imuko

[runic dock]

Notice the use of the word joyboy

[leaden rivet]

I know what this says

[pine ridge]

yeah just like how imu called rocks "davy jones"