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That’s like his default outfit now
Even though he should make the new default rooftop luffy imo
With the cape
fmi has been the default for ages
oh wait no the fishman pirates looks like a red tattoo but its a burn scar
That was so cool
I hope laugh tale gives us new default designs
Do we? This doesn’t really change the outcome, if anything it just reinforces everything I’ve been saying
That's been his default outfit for like 15 years
Make something marketable for the final arc at least
Man that’ll take forever
Did you guys like the spread
In a couple years
It's ok
As a sweet potato enjoyer i approve
Its cute but nothing special
They look weird
It was cute
I think I'm bored of seeing Yamato eat food at this point
Damn
Everyone's heads are huge in the spread for some reason it makes them look like kids
Sweet potatoes suck
i thiink im bored of seeing luffy breathe are at this point
Shhhh
Maybe that can be her role on the crew
Taste tester
very true
Cause all that fatty does is eat
air
need some fan request of old characters so we see the updated versions of em
Ace is just gonna look the exact same
He's forever immortalized as the shirtless guy
Y'all stay out the South
Nah Oda will dress him up
We don't need sweet potato hate down here
we do
I'm requesting the black cat pirates to see if Oda remembers which gender Sham is in the manga
No tf we don't
like enel for example got jacked
Sweet potatoes are decent
he was usually pretty lanky
jokes on you mcdonalds already adds sugar on fries
That's an artstyle change
Idk if he got jacked or if Oda’s style just changed
nevermind i lied
I'm not too crazy about sweet potatoes themselves or fries, but I do enjoy some sweet potato pie
The worst pie flavor
Enel put on more mass
Me and my homies love Garp
Sweet potatoes are my daily driver carbs
We don't care
Fuck that Sengoku
Shanks in chapter 1 feels like a radically different character from what he is now
What is your favorite pie flavor?
apple pie clears all
cuz enel needed to train to defeat the space yonkos
hes space king now
A thousand chapters of aura farming changes the man
I actually dont know if I've ever eaten a pie before
Pecan by a mile
Like ever
@hazy turret
My mom likes pecan lol
theyre a pretty good genre of food
Gross
both savory and sweet
How
Garp and sengoku are the dumb and dumber duo
You got the taste buds of an old lady
I DONT KNOW
They’re both stupid as hell
Are you one of those people that only eat chicken tenders
We are the dumb and dumber duo
nah sengoku took being stupid to another level this chap
No
So a refined and distinguished palate?
but like no one in my family eats pie so I've never really had the chance
a good apple pie will change your life
I'm allergic so I can't eat peacn pie
I thought sengoku was pretty smart before this
you need some of these yam fries
I wanna try cherry pie to see if Luffy or Blackbeard was right
cherries are weird
Wait I have eaten pie in a video game does that count
BB is right

Im wildly sensitive to mismatched textures so the only pie I can eat and enjoy is pumpkin
Kind of surprised you've never had pie
could you sense what it tasted like
Second worst flavor
Pumpkin pie is good too
Pumpkin pie visually looks dry
He’s dumber
Eat more squash
I don't really eat it with nothing else. I just like the pie
Can a pie be dry?
yeah
Is that a thing
Yes
Can a pie be wet?
easily
Yup
i remember in my high school chemistry class one of our assignments was making an apple free apple pie
Never had a cherry pie
Was Luffy cappin
You get wet pies if you don’t blind bake the crust if it’s an open faced pie
What causes a wet pie

Is a wet pie kinda like a taco with too much sauce
Im making a pecan cobbler for thxgiving very excited
too much liquid or a weak pastry
Ah ic
Does he not munch on meat? Tell me I'm wrong right now
The filling getting the crust soggy
That's all he eats
meat pie for luffy prob
meat pies are so good
Oh yeah there are meat pies
them brits love em
Avery you must stop
turns out adding a butter pastry to a food makes it taste better
meat pies are underated yeah
I just googled that bro just eat pecans atp
Oh you're dirty minded rokaya
People wanna act like it's nasty
Just pecans with seasoning
That's what it is cause i didnt even think of that
I’ve never heard of that that sounds delicious tho wtf
Like they don't eat a bunch of stuff with bread meat and butter
Just because it's in pie form for whatever reason
Guys we’re all going to Icon’s for thanksgiving
We dont play at chez icon
Doesnt he live in like France
He live in Queens
imagine having thanksgiving in november
Were you not doing that on purpose???
No??
I'm not trying to get caught in the hustle and bustle of big city holiday traffic
It’s okay tickets are on me
Also harald was absolutely ridiculous this chapter
Thanksgiving is every day for Loki fans because we stay eating
Even if it means being a slave?? Peace??
We do stay eating
It was definitely a bit much
Honestly
idk i didnt feel harald was that crazy this chapter
He deserved to die like that, I gotta be honest
I cant go to my family's thanksgiving thing next week, it's okay though I do kinda need to study at home and do some stuff
Rokaya do u like Rocks
everyone hates him now
He lost aura
Yeah I like rocks
Harald and Rocks were so gay

Both got domi reversi'd

And died the same death
Does crazy mean good or bad
Harald ALMOST got me when he was crying over rocks
bad
But then this buster had to go and say he'd be a slave
Hmm yeah I agree
Harald was talking crazy
True
does he know
He doesn't
Loki didn't do anything to Hajrudin after that though
Most clueless guy ever
Loki stopped hurting people after meeting Rocks
didnt he famously beat him up several times and says hes of weak blood
Unless that one club scene is after this scene
Yeah the part with him taking out his frustration on that giant was a good character moment but to immediately get on your knees and say you’d become a slave if it means elbaf joins the WG
Yeah that was before meeting Rocks
oh neat
He's been like a pacifist post Rocks
Did he consider what loki would think when he saw him with his horns gone
Moody bitch
I think Loki let him know exactly what he thought 😭
Loki doesn't like the current giants lol said they dirty and soft
Loki hasn't showered in like 6 years
Most of them are soft
What does he know about being clean
Loki's hair doesn't stay dazzling magenta by itself
He has to shower
To maintain the locks
His followers wash his balls and stuff for him

this panel is much funnier in that context
You kinda just have to really suspend your disbelief
Like i dont think impel down had plumbing lol
And his followers been scooping those mountains of shit away and bathing him to make sure he stays clean
Maybe his stomach just absorbs the waste like yujiro
theres actually a giant hole right below loki
Tsuru wipes doffys ass
Loki hasn't eaten in 6 years
He can't shit what he hasn't eaten
loki absorbed nutrients from his surroundings like a plant
Socrates spittin
he's at least shit himself once tho
loki diaper theory
How do you know the giants didn't let Loki do one final shit before imprisonment
Now this is believable
True he was like this since birth
Y'all think Loki has his fruit as a child? He couldn't swim even as a kid
probably not
He got it when Harald died
Just couldnt swim
Luffy parallel if you will
But swimming is hard, most kids probably cant tbh
gerald
pin this
Why bother learning to swim on an island like elbaf
- egghead ends in december
Mailbox did you see the news?
well they do still have lakes
Your goat is back
Because he wanted to sail lol
fishbonen sweep
i hope we see dr blackbeard now
i just read the chapter baby loki is so cutr
I was so happy for you when I saw it
Top 3 cutest
Apparently you can https://youtu.be/7-ohOzGMcS0?si=k6gEIL56i_tH6BQm we’re all gonna learn something today
And Jinbe. 2v1
Harald is kinda a massive fucking idiot
Feel like this dudes made nothing but mistakes
In his personal life and foreign policy
Harald should've read a book or two on diplomacy
Unfortunately he was a meathead mega strong man that wanted to get into politics and failed
poor guy just wanted to try and save his country's rep
Fascinating
Thank God for Nancy and Brenda
Shout out to Nancy and Brenda
Harald was elite and his heart was on the right place. He just wasn't savy enough to be a good leader that could change how the world saw giants
Or he wanted change too quickly
it was more he wanted change too quickly yeah
i dont know why hes so desperate for it, hes gonna be around for another few decades
we already saw other countries come to his aid early on so its not like he cant gradually get elbaf accepted
I hope Elbaph doesn't become affiliated so Harald's dream is invalidated
Hope so bad
I mean
Itll happen EOS
But thats after you remove the super duper very bad not good people from it
personally i don’t think the message oda wants to send is “elbaf should never have changed their ways”
Which harald had no part of
Well it's starting to look like that
Harald should've just listened to Loki
If he did he would've at least been alive
Harald oversteered
the true plot of elbaf will reveal itself soon
Pandora will appear again as the main villain
you will see...
Pandora is insignificant
Harolds gonna realize hes going to be one of those giants doing evil by dealing with WG because i think he was at a point where he could not forgive himself when those guards attacked him
This is one of the biggest parts of it
Harald was looking for a shortcut
fantastic chapter
anyone else notice the shackle on eris's wrist?
Ive seen people mention it yes
Whats the significance?
Trafalgar Davy D Water Law
Yo Icon, I just played that chapter of ace attorney today and wondered why he looked so familiar. Garling hair aside
Lmao
Enjoy
Great things to come
hey everyone what did we think of the chapter
fishbonen
It’s really tragic, he can’t help but make increasingly poor decisions
I liked it :)
i liked it too
I’ve known this man for years. He was never nice
So he either found god or is plotting smth
literally just giving my thouhgts on the chapter
and wondering what the other fine people of this community thought

people hate to see a fellow communicate and collaborate with those of a similar mind
Good to see the fishbonen. Decent chapter. Really liked the Garp stuff both with dragon and sengoku. A shame about the cover page
morgans was a great pull
evan could you get a new pfp from like outside like maybe a beautiful landscape or quaint scene
Evan you were my first thoughyt when I saw the cute little foxes in the colour spread
I love you
tf is outside
new manga
I don't read manga other than one pieec
they're calling it the one piece killer that broke the internet
they're calling it "the one piece of manga"
they're calling it "outside"
they're calling it "pretty good but not the best"
The one piece of manga goes kinda hard
an imposter...
i didnt notice
She also seems to have stolen Jamiroquai's hat
Why is she wearing kaku’s hat?
Egghead ended a long time ago
he's right you know
I am
Just let them continue to be wrong
i lowkey haven’t done anything but read spoilers for the past 50 chapters
dawg
i’m so cooked
Go seek help
That is not healthy
i need to catch up
go read rn fr
Stop it with the spoilers
but highkey the longer this goes on the less i want to read the manga
That’s called an addiction
its looking like its wrapping up soon
me when i caught up to one piece was a different breed
oh u mean ur.. problem..
i’ll try to get around to reading it omw to work once i catch up to blue period
Rocks got official coloring?
BLUE HAIRED ROCKS IS REAL
rocks has blue hair??
It's crazy
was anyone else disappointed by the lack of conversation between Garp and Dragon?
Any one have the art?
we got one piece gojo
ROCKS D BUGGY IS REAL
Rocks D Clown
Davey D. Buggy has arrived
guys why is 6 afraid of 7
One of my dreams would be to have a machine that could explain to me what meek says. He has such an unique vocabulary, it’s indistinguishable from any other person
I guess since Rocks isn't even a real family name yet, it probably could be
All the sanjuan haters can back off. I was right, rocks d clown is real
I still think it's less likely than not right
Rocks cares about his family but never spares a thought for buggy?
He seems to love eris and would need to have some other mistress to have buggy
Buggy is a few months younger than shanks so he would have been born fairly recently very shortly after gv and rocks never gives him a thought on this mission where the primary concern is his family
it is unlikely, i agree
buggy is rocks clone. shrimple.
Buggy wasn’t born yet
clone piece is back
I just think its a color thing
therefore one piece is back
Ya so the mom woulda already been pregnant
Eris had buggy inside her during god valley. That’s why he’s not brought up
How does buggy end up on Rogers ship then? And bb is left behind?
clones
roger gets one kid and whitebeard gets the other
if rocks had another kid it would go to wang zhi
Also while it's possible they just get significantly different rolls of the dice, bb and buggy look nothing alike
speaking of; you think the reason Ms. Buckin allowed them to clone her was partly so thered be a version of her not burdened by the crush on WB that plagued her whole life? I think thatd be a sweet gesture other than just paying back MADS for crashing at their place
top tiers give their kids to the next strongest top tier
so first goes to garp but was stolen by eris
then the next son goes to roger
wait sorry stolen by whitbeard
true, Garling didnt kill Roger cus he knew hed have one more mouth to feed by taking out Shanks' step-dad 
third son would go to wang zhi
No, i think stussy allowed herself to be cloned as a deal w/ vegapunk and/or the other mads members.
yeah i said that already
i said that, with the sweet gesture being an additional reason
We’ll see. I don’t write the story
"other than just paying back MADS"
I don't think she's like heartbroken by it. Its mostly played up for laughs
ik, but it would turn a gag into something more genuine 
we'll see once we see the Buckin, Weevil, Marco thing wrap up
So baby shanks caused a sky split 
been sayin this
@hallow herald how do u explain baby shamrock surviving gv
it would be as simple as them being in different places when Buggy is found and Roger’s crew assuming there’s only 1 baby, just like with Shanks
did he?

Maffey didn’t have him, neither did Garling
we COULD assume she gave Shamrock back to the guy who called her about the twins
but should we?
feels like unnecessary suspense to not show him leaving the island safely
just like it is to not show Rocks dying if he’s just dead
sidenote we haven’t seen that big horned Holy Knight since they showed up lmao, i wonder how many years we’ll have to wait for a color scheme
It can also be that the fb isnt centric to the hks hence the reason for us to not see baby shamrock leaving the island
the reason this is an issue is because current day Shamrock being the twin is entirely dependent on the twin being alive and the last time we saw him was in the arms of a woman who doesn’t need to dodge attacks, on an island that sunk into the sea
the longer we go without seeing both twins again, the less likely it is that both are currently alive. you don’t blow the top off of a mystery and then go back to being secretive about it
It is kinda his fault ngl
Would the giants have changed anything?
Dude was told to kill him and when he dies Now its a problem?
Say harald like alright I'm all in army of giants
So what? Xebec still gets flipped and killed
reminds me of Noland and Kalgara so heavy, all the regret they felt at being driven apart
He could have lived had they been there
How/why? What amount of manpower stops him getting flipped
Harald had been consistent equal to Rock yet the slander...
The whole idea was no.amount of firepower could do anything to imu. That was the point of that five way punch panel. Making it a 6 way punch with harald doesn't do anything
Remember this Harald is already tame, if he let his violent nature out 💀
yea it rlly seems like there’s no such thing as enough manpower when ur against Imu, there’s some more abstract condition that must be met, cuz once u gain his attention ur up against the marines and HKs, not even the giants have that fight since we haven’t seen any with devil fruits aside from Loki yet (correct me if i’m wrong)
i like that we said it the same way lol
None, the flipping is inevitable. Considering that Garp and Roger mainly 2v1'd him throughout that battle, Harold (equal to Rocks) could have stepped in and fended off the God's Knights before he died
So I understand why he thinks that but I think from objective reader perspective harald wouldn't have changed anything
Like it was absolutely survivable albeit the overall turf war wouldn't have been won
Rocks was alive after all that AND they broke his curse
it feels like Harald and Garp’s stubbornness is based on their knowledge of the unbeatable nature of Imu, but j also wonder if their lack of confidence is what holds them back in the first place
although i don’t think either rlly knows about Imu
at least where we’ve see them
So only if the twins confront each other
Or we get to see the baby hks have leave alive
we wld be able to clear this
Doesnt make sense that Garp wouldnt know but his subordinates would
i feel like Harald must have learned before he died
Full Conqueror Haki with this punch. Imu is nothing brah
the same blunder as Lili and Clover
yea we gotta see both at the same time or we gotta see Shamrock in a place we know Shanks isn’t
I really think the message from this was supposed to be power alone can't win here like evil buggy saying
Also its confirmed now that the dr can be reversed without killing off the person?
even if we see Shamrock in the same year as Roger’s death and he’s in the Holy Land or something we’d need to see Shanks somewhere else at the same time to confirm it isn’t him
It would be so silly if it were just some power threshold where imu has enough 'hp' to be punched by 5 legends but not 6
thats one of 2 implications
the other being ?
the other option is that it can be overpowered but without fully dispelling it, it just becomes something worse
like the Abyss Mark
kinda like how Luffy had to die to unlock G5
im still stuck in Rocks being cutless after the combo attack, feels like a straight up regen moment
imagine if Dorry and Broggy decided to permanently agree to Imu’s contract, they would keep their immortal bodies but wouldn’t be devillish, on some Gunko shit
Imu could use ppls emotional attachments to do that or some shit idk
Ig he did but then one can say once the dr is reversed the body turns back to normal
with depleted strength ofc
thats definitely a possibility
what would stop them from doing it again or worse tho
Themselves
i imagine they could’ve just done domi reversi again, but at that point rocks had served his purpose (and was severely weakened)
plus garlic still had a vendetta against him (and the whole him being a davy)
Who knows harald might have just been conscripted for imu
I think we really need to worry about the present
We still don't have an answer for this
i’ve genuinely got no clue what oda has planned for countering the regen
And we can expect gunkoimu can take force equal to garp rocks wb kaido bm
you would think it’s just acoc but that’s A: super limiting and B: doesn’t seem to really be the case
Imu doesn't even really regen they never really get hit in the first place
So like an eternal package lol
well i imagine the whole brook and gunko relation will be used to expel imu
They just fade away like smoke #also-manga message
but yeah they shouldn’t be able to actually beat them unless luffy’s magic nika powers perfectly counter imu’s
It's like a logia before haki
That's part of the purpose of gv here. We're about to return to facing a similar power in the present that the combined efforts of the god valley generation couldn't do anything about
Damn no body talking about what xebec said about the gallera giants. And how only Harald can bring them back.
Omg guys, Loki has the df to release them from the ice. Remember he burnt down the giant tree. He can burn the ice. His df is the sun
@woven talon hey sorry to bother you just had a question about a translation
whats the raw version of this say
any harold fans in chat
My goat same as always God valley only strengthened my resolve
Garling ?
Morgans
Oh
Even if I did notice something crazy / messed up with the actions of the higher ups…
We were pretty literal there
He’s saying he hasn’t witnessed the craziness, but if he did he’d ignore it.
(Because he thinks climbing the ranks is more important as you can only make good change at top)
is that chat bubble for sengoku?
Yeah
yeah thats what was confusing me
if it was garp its kinda like a question to sengoku
Like “what if you saw the top brass do something crazy?”
ya
Hey
Nothing in the text indicates it’s Garp talking tho
But maybe from the art and bubble split you could think it’s him
Even for viz and Toei they need to guess sometimes 😅
But either way I think it’s clear what Sengoku is saying
He wouldn’t let any disturbing actions of the higher ups stop him climbing the ranks
I could see viz doing it like this
But we were having it all be Sengoku I believe. Kinda a coin toss but amounts to the same thing
Although I guess even with our wording it could be taken as Garp
If you assume Sengoku cut him off
if its garp saying it, it's still a weird way of phrasing it
Like
“Things are complicated so it’s hard to know what to think blah blah”
“Even if I saw crazy shit—-“
“I’d just ignore that”
Yeah
Unless you assume a cut off or treat it like an interjection
even as a cut off, I feel like strike me as insane doesn't work
It could be actions or behaviors
Anywho hope that helps
Kaku appears this chapter I’m so happy
Nothing about buggy in the whole flashback
this is a fake edited picture being pushed by reddit again. Why do they do this?
this is buggy in vietnamese
my favorite brand of OP merch/collabs is when the straw hats featured are the east blue five except usopp is consistently left out
this is too cute, he's holding that tiny ass newspaper 
WG need to send an email to all their employees including marines stating Saturn has decided to step down from his position as the Gorosei so they won’t get confused when Devon appears as Saturn and starts giving orders to marines
They also need to take care of the marines that watched him die in 4K
I will respect Harald's resolve as a king. But, I think it's also sad that his choice to trust the government is the reason for the downfall of elbaf
Exactly, his desperation clouded a lot of judgement
But I won't deny he's doing his best
along with a great cost
Yeah
I'm kinda annoyed and sad rocks went out getting killed by a rat
The more we got info on rocks, the more he didn't seem so bad ironically
There's a lot of aspects I can respect for the pirate
definition of chaotic neutral to me
which encompasses like 90% of pirates
i enjoyed seeing Xebec talk with Loki, in a more civil manner
Yeah
Dragon telling Garp how much he despises him and Garp just tossing him the key to freedom was very neat
At least we know what dragon meant with being in the marines for a while and not seeing any justice there
He was definitely scarred because of the god valley incident and imprisoned
I wonder how dragon felt when he saw shanks became a yonko? There's no way he would forget the red haired baby that easily
we'll probably see his reaction down the line
I also wonder what would be the confrontation between him and shamrock since he failed him when he was a baby?
Sometimes I wonder if shamrock can be changed but knowing how Celestial Dragons are, shamrock is clearly influenced heavy by Garling (annoyingly enough)
nothing is impossible
I hope not. I prefer him being decent from the beginning
Change is a bit unrealistic
Yeah but knowing imu could literally take control of those already turned immortal and can take their life also, I feel sorry for gunko and brook since it would mean brook will have to see her die
at least now we know that the curse can be broken
And Gunko alone is already interesting because of her connection with brook
I wonder if we will get an early flashback before he became part of the rumbar pirates
Though, it's annoyingly difficult since you gotta use a lot of haki by the looks of it
yeah, it leaves you completely worn out afterwards
oh... i looked at one piece twitter... man they really hates the "Kay..." huh?
Garp is still larp to me
But the kay was funny
I wonder if that's how Joyboy lost and why zunesha said he committed an unforgivable crime. Joyboy managed to actually free most of his closest allies back to normal but it was too late, he still got killed after using too much haki and stamina to fight back
unpossible
Alright then run around the Earth in 3 seconds
this also cleared up what Joyboy meant with gathering his strongest haki into the knot
Yeah, I wonder if this is really the case
i just did
I wonder, did Emeth get separated when fighting alongside Joyboy or did he also got converted? (Not that if we know since we never seen imu convert a machine but I could remember wrong)
However you see it
It's a meme material regardless
I see, then it's probably the case of Emeth also got converted
yeah... TCB really just giving us memes at this point
That's terrifying. Imu really is a terrifying opponent
Also garp was more of angry in the panel
atleast its not as bad as Zolo
I still wonder how exactly will imu even be defeated?
i still laugh when i see the official when they call him Zolo
Garp didn't even try to talk Dragon into staying. After God Valley he can't blame anyone from leaving.
he wanted to too... but again those people shouting from the bottom of the cliff needs defending
When quitting is the only sane option and you decide to stay 
those who actually are good and helping the normal people
because again Marines help people
There are a lot of marines who do good
Yeah and like political pressure as well
to what end tho
being an icon, also physically, and basically getting them under him so the missions they get is directly under him
is he just speaking on his specific crew?
In a sense I guess? He's still only in the marines to help the common folk legally without getting fights against the marines (idk why, but I get a feeling vigilantism is not a good thing in one piece and will probably get killed. That, there are resources he can still use if he's still within the marines)
There are completely evil pirates like Katarina Devon out there. Marines protect normal people from them.
I also hope Garp planned something to help overthrow the world Government.
but you can only really control so much of how gigantic the Marines and the Government is
Overall I believe
has he ever been shown to actually protect any marines other than his own guys, and even then has he done it any way other than physically? i guess he broke dragon out this chap but other than that im kinda stumped
Marines like Koby who want to do good and have potential. So they become good marines instead of WG lapdogs like Akainu.
ok but where is he finding them, what trouble are they in, i dont get how his plan is helpful to more than a handful of people
Garp barely has any chapters to go into such details
We are speculating only from what we see him saying
those are just him helping first hand... him being there already is helping the good ones that rise up
Can agree with the first part but Garp never planned anything to overthrow the WG.
ohara happens 16 years after god valley, and garps main (only) pupil is right there in it
like sword is basically his under study
marines is really a hard thing to break... its basically a cult
Sword work for WG only. All the work they do is to serve World Government and their objectives so we can cut that sword part
Not as far as we know. But isn't he part/leader of sword? Garp already shown he operates outside wg orders.
Also saving Ace before being born, letting Luffy go in W7, almost killing Akainu in Marinefort...
Tho I get what ur trying to say it's actually oda who hasn't developed the marines that well so we know only a little
A spinoff wld do oda I'm not blaming you 
Sword never works against WG. They never directly oppose WG. Sword only works out of marine’s jurisdiction to complete WG’s orders
literally only Dragon right now wants to overthrow it... the others want the same government with the just them at the head
Sword never directly opposes WG unlike Revolutionary Army
Why wld sword do that
Dragon doesn't want to overthrow it, he just wants to get rid of the Celestial Dragons who puppeteer it
What's the purpose of sword ?
Their purpose is to benefit the marines/ WG in a way which doesn’t allow them to work by WG’s books
they want sword to be something that opposses the thing they work with... but they're basically vanguards that will do the supposedly right thing rather than you know... resort to corruption and etc... and when the WG don't like what a sword member does they can just leave
that's literally their MO
We don't know enough to make that speculation
It's only logical to think he believes to overthrow all of them
Sword is a part of WG only. There is no denying that
i think he was a member of sword who got cut loose
opposite of this, no?
i think they are meant to be a mirror to cipher pol, who are wg only
they literally can just ignore orders
sword is navy only, they dont answer to the wg, and they dont make the navy look bad to the wg ig
I didn't say that sword goes against the WG but they also don't follow WG orders. They work independently towards their objectives, outside of WG orders.
The CP0 were thinking about killing Drake too despite no need for it and not being their mission.
Their purpose is to engage with pirates whenever they want to without any political pressure
And why is that? So they do good for the people
Less pirates = less evil = better life standards for the civilians
"Benefit the wg" as if they bringing home gold from a loot😂
They aren’t the intelligence wing. They are just soldiers who work for WG without obeying the orders from above
SWORD works for the marines not the WG
i mean... they can do what they want... we saw X Drake literally just yeah i am team Luffy now its the much better choice
We are talking about overthrowing the WG which doesn’t fit the Sword agenda
That was never the point of the conversation
Marines are just a public face of World Government
cipher pol is aprtly an intelligence thing, but it is also about doing things outside the rules for the world government (see the cia/any other real-life intelligence agency)
no one said Garp or Sword wants to overthrow the government...
although i guess there aren't any rules for the wg, but stuff they dont want the navy to know/to be responsible for
Not necessarily. Garp showed he doesn't give a fuck about WG orders and do whatever he wants most of the time.
garp is the only one who does that tho
most other ppl who have the same ideals are garp do the normal thing and leave
No one was talking about overthrowing the wg 😂
You just brought it up
We were talking about the good marines do for the ppl
Garp and Sword are just those who don't adhere to the government and will do the actually helpful thing rather than just follow orders...
Koby and others are still there
X Drake too
The conversation started with a possibility of Garp working for overthrowing the WG
Probably all the sword members don't care abput the WG if Garp handpicked them himself
Also there will be no coup until the truth about wg gets revealed to the whole world
Garp did not
I started the conversation that "I HOPE" that Garp pllaned something to help overthrow the WG leaders and that he has shown already that he can work outside of their orders with secret organizations like SWORD
Didn't that happen already in Egghead?
That doesn’t mean they are working to overthrow the WG. They are still working to complete WG objectives
Do they know about imu ?
Read again. I never said SWORD is working on that. Nobody said that.
Benn please read the conversation again, nobody is saying what you are answering to xd
They serve their own justice lol
The entire point of sword is that they don't have to take shit from the higher ups 😂
You said you hope Garp is trying to overthrow the WG with the Sword organisation which is totally untrue
Why you twisting things 😂
disregarding imu, its insane that akainu tried to kill koby, then got promoted and koby is like yeah being a marine is awesome
they serve the people... the WG is literally just a resource to them... like those missions they get are because the intelligence WG have...
I don't remember Imu being mentioned but didn't Vegapunk tell that there is one person sitting on the throne and that person trying to destroy the world, etc?
Why did koby join the marines
Never said that
But still complete the WG’s objectives. Sword has never worked directly against WG
Point in the conversation when I said that xd
like even if the wg wasnt PURE PURE evil, the marines are being lead by sakazuki "blow up that ship of civillians" akainu, and garp and koby are just chill with it
😭 so Luffy beating crap out of kaido also serves wg now ?
Revolutionary Army is the only organisation which directly opposes WG and is trying to overthrow WG
Also the WG isn't the Celestial Dragons. Normal countries are also part of the WG.
enel in big 2025 🔥
I'm not very active on this server outside of release days. Is Benn a troll or is he just being dense as fuck today?xd
tbh... he thinks its binary... but its just not... Sword are an organization in the middle
He hates garp
WG wants the complete control over the World. Kaido was in their way that’s why Drake was assigned to infiltrate the beasts pirates and end them from within. Luffy defeating Kaido was not the part of their plans that’s why WG ordered CP0 to get rid of Luffy
basically using the WG's resource to do the things they want to do but never fully follow what the WG want
sword needs to be a way bigger organisation to be of any use
tbh we don't fully know the extent of the organization
i feel like its such a common thread through the "good" marines that doing things through the system is ultimately pointless
The point was that Garp has shown already working outside of WG orders. For all we know he could have secretly worked to help the Revolutionary Army.
this would be the only thing to begin to redeem garp for me
I don't know you guys but I bet Garp loves and cares a lot abput his son Dragon and after God Valley he probably knows he is right.
and whatever Fujitora does is very sword move... just opposing whatever the orders are and literally daring them to fire him
fujitora is what garp shouldve been
What?
the difference is that fujitora only just entered the marines and speedran trying to actually do anything
he was an army man before it... he's not really new
What has Fujitora done? I don't remember right now
just new to the marines
Fujitora probably literally saw war crimes and had a hand in helping it... and that's why he blinded himself
being in the military of a random kingdom is different to being a marine
but yeah this is probably true
Abolition of Shichibukai and freeing slaves marijoa
freeing slaves in marijoa is such a goated move
freeing of slave is literally just convinience... like it fell on him to do that... he never actually want to do it like Fisher Tiger
abolition of the warlords is a good idea, but ultimately the wg only let that happen bcus they already had the replacements ready
if Garp was in the same situation he'd do the same thing
good idea... but man its actually not
its not a good idea to abolish the warlords?
the replacements are so much worse
abolishing the warlords didnt create the replacements lmao
literal robots that can't oppose orders
they were gonna do that anyway
like Shichibukai not doing anything is the best thing to happen to the seas
not doing anything?
like the Boa and Mihawk not doing shit is so much better
than all of them being a robot to follow orders
i think ur thinking about this in a weird order
the wg developed the seraphim and wanted them as replacements for the warlords before fujitora
yeah and fujitora literally sped the process up
i knew it too
he didnt know, so it makes perfect sense for him to attempt to abolish the very corrupt warlord process
do you actually think this?
the government wouldve just had both
i mean the warlords are getting slowly exposed anyway
wait
i may be wrong here
did fujitora legit help/give his approval to the seraphim project
Admiral approval
but maybe its right too because speeding the seraphim process made them not as perfectly robot as they are... which is worse too because now there is a menace that is Doflamingo seraphim
WG propaganda cringe
I actually hope Dragon doesn’t have a devil fruit. It would be so much funnier if he’s just shooting people in the face and that’s how he became the most wanted man in the world
i wonder if the seraphim actually are worse than the warlords for the average person
Fujitora was a part of World Government soldiers draft before joining the marines so he probably knew the system and wanted to demolish it from the start but he just didn’t have the position before and he sped up the process after getting the Admiral position
like the doffy seraphim isnt opressing dressrossa rn its probs just chilling in a box
that post about how the more complex a powersystem, the funnier when someone pulls out a gun will never stop being wrong
dragon should get a gun
he takes off his cloak to reveal a bunch of pistols
the worlds strongest gunman, dragon
the thing is... we never actually saw him use a proper gun
Only thing we know is thst Dragon can control the weather to some degree
the gun he used the whole time is a tranq gun
no powers, he just willed it to be and the universe had his back
Nami upscale
every time something weather related happens to dragon its just a coincidence
I disagree with this
Everything cannot be a coincidence
no hes just the goat, legit a tornado picked him and sabo up and carried them back to the ship
no devil fruit or nothing just pure determination and willpower
sengoku is such a bitch
tbh... i want dragon to actually has storm power... so i can see edits of him when he actually does something with the Virgil from DMC theme
Might be the devil fruit with determination and willpower
dragon having no fruit would be interesting tho, nami has weather powers with no fruit
Could weatheria be part pf the rev army?
It would explain Loguetown without devil fruit
they were buddies with vegapunk, for whatever thats worth
dragon actually has 0 powers, he just uses other people behind the scenes
I think most scientists are buddies with Vegapunk
and aura farms
but i love that there is a mysticism to dfs of dragon and then a science equivalent of through nami...
buddies meaning friends, not acquaintances
Yes, I meant it that way
Them and Vegapunk both are researchers so it is natural for them to work together at some point
i dont think vegapunk is calling up queen judge or caesar to come pick him up lmao
Not now but back then?
well im talking now tho?
They were part of the same team, MADS
You used past tense xd
tbh i think VP never wanted to work with them... its just that the government made them work together... and they are the ones that wants to work with VP
not really friends more like work acquaintances
Neo mads might recruit Queen and deformed Vegapunk
Or just Queen for the starters
That deformed VP might work alone
but my point is that weatheria probably aligns with vegapunks morals and ideals and he expects them to be helpful while he is actively wanted by the gov
definitely makes them candidates for at least being sympathetic to the rev cause
But if they helped in Loguetown they must be part of the rev army because that was just to help Dragon
Not the rev cause
Weatheria are not affiliated with any political agenda. They are pure researchers who work alone long away from WG jurisdiction on a sky island. They are the true scientists who just study the weather and have acquired the mastery in what they do
They are all very senior citizens who have been doing the research work since long before Dragon was born
this is an insane thing to say im ngl
People who are supporting the theory that buggy is xebec's son is still going strong. Not that I understand how did that even happen
Yeah, sure. They have the same pose but other than this and the blue hair, that would mean the red nose comes either from the mother side or he just unfortunately born with a clown nose
No
You see everything cannot be a coincidence
Its a peak discord server
Male pattern baldness affects 80% of men over 30
Check your folicle count
The real king of the court
It's been affecting me since 20 
Who thelly let him on the court all you need to do is say "yo daddy mid" and he farms penalties
listenlisten, just put that boy on the court with some earplugs and it's straight Ws
pirate warriors DLC
any buggy fans in chat

will he ever discover fans in chat
wonder how he reacted to Sengoku's role in Ohara
now that god valley is over and we pretty much never saw garling and wb interact, what makes u guys think made wb say that shanks face reminds himof the scars, did they meet at another time and had an altercation or maybe the scars are the scars of rocks death which roger may have told him later on about after roger learned that garling did the final blow to rocks
it's kinda funny how sengoku is the one that orchestrated the pregnant woman hunt and ace's execution and garp did nothing
That was Kong
The conversation contextualises Sengoku's actions atleast, he's someone who wanted to get to the top because thats the only way he believed he could make any substantial change instead of yelling from the bottom. He's able to turn a blind eye to them until then, and stick with the WG narratives, and thats what he did at Ohara.
yea the pregnant woman hunt was Kong, not Sengoku
I suspect Sengoku saving corazon and Drake and also sending Corazon on a mission to save children specifically from Dofy is directly related to how Sengoku feels about the navy killing pregnant women and babies
i think when oda put that he was refering to roger then he had the opportunity to make garling the one who did It but he refused it so i think its just roger
Kong betrayed us
mmm true bcuz wb and roger did fight many times
fair enough
I told MelonTee I’d be coming back to brag
We were arguing about Garp and what he was accomplishing
how did that work out for him
He created sword
Melontee is here??
Yeah but she doesn’t post here
Kong is gonna be a very pro WG monster I feel, he was able to climb to the position of the Commander in Chief for a reason.
That was in her server
Hmmm
yeah I believe this too
do u guys think that since harald has openly offered to be slave to atone for the sins of the past, do u think this is how imu may brand him w the mark of the abyss asw and make him pretty much a puppet of theirs under the guise of allowing him to join the world government. If this is the case why do u guys think imu would have delayed obtaining the fruit from harald for so long if they could js posses him and get the fruit
Tbf with Kong the position of commander in chief is pretty vague. Like is it like in the US where it’s the president
Like he just signs off on stuff
yea we know that
Nah I think Harald ripping out his horns in this gesture endeared him to the world leaders, and they welcomed the idea of Elbaph joining the WG
Imu sees this as his “blunder” because being welcomed by the world leaders means Harald would no longer be desperate, so he was no longer prime for manipulation by Imu
So instead, Imu corrupted Jarul
Jarul is several times bigger now than he was in BMs flashback
Just like Rocks grew when Imu cursed him
He basically commands all the forces of the World Government, which from this chapter we know constitutes of 10s of millions of soldiers from the marines to the armed forces of member countries, etc. I Imagine he'll play that role when that war against the World Government happens, and it will be clearer then
Jarul survived the sword through his head because he’s Abyss immortal
can u show me how u can tell this (not saying ur wrong im js curious)
He cast the Abyss circle in the throne room
Sure one sec
oooo
people in OP just never stop growing for some reason
That’s what you think
It’s cause he’s cursed
even Brook at age of 90 gained like a foot iirc
When Jarul says he likes an older woman, Oda draws attention to the sword in his head twice
my only thing with that is if jarul was possesed by imu and then domi revsersid harald, wouldnt loki need to fight both of them and if so wouldnt he have also spread the new about how jarul was a demonic entity in the throne room where he killed his father, or do u think loki js decided to shut up bcuz public sentiment has always been against him
well could be that too
Haki is stored in the bones
I think he either tried and they didn’t believe him
yh i see
oh actually it was 4 inches, but still he gained, from 8'9 to 9'1
My words taste like wine in my mouth and continue to age just like it
Jerking in public is a decision...
How long is Loki's d***
but i dont get why imu would want domi reversid dorry and broggy to kill jarul (if hes also an asset) unless he wants to hide this secrect, but if he possesed jarul would he have recollection of this or do u think jarul is a full on traitor and imu js wants to cut this loose end so no one knows the truth (but again loki does as well and in his entrapment theres been no effort to kill him maybe bcuz hes strong and has the fruit and viewed as a potential asset)
but uh yea, I thought Jarul's ever growing height was just a result of people in OP always growing no matter what their age is, but idk
same
About as long as his pants 
did you not see me warn him
uh huh
I think he means D. as in his middle name.
man the scans this week were rough
I be feeling myself
Yeah Imu probably just wants to dispose of loose ends
Holy knights pulling up on rocks was mad muddy
yeaa

no I know what dome means already its fine
Aint getting my GOAT Shiki
Jarul may be under like other layers of duress we dont know about... If he is a genuine traitor it makes the whole association with Mother Caramel even more interesting in retrospect though.
it was 75% censored tho 😭
Honestly, something that flies under other people's radar this flashback is Galleila. I am so so so excited to revisit their plotline after overlooking them 10+ years ago during PH in the modern story now.
I didn’t overlook them

Stop the lies
I guarantee
I am willing to bet my life savings that you have never ever thought about the frozen giants in punk hazard until this flashback.
Im willing to bet you the same about Matsuge until just now that I mention the GOAT himself
@ashen perch After pages 1-2 of this chapter, this scene makes a lot more sense.
@ashen perch @storm basalt another one
Harald and Jarul are the same height when Jarul is stand in and Harald is sitting
@grand flower
I forgot about them. Too long ago
But in modern day, now Jarul’s big enough to be as tall as Loki
?
?
Rocks didnt die right.
The way Kaido wanted
Whitebeard did die right
We finally see how Kaido despised the way Rocks died.


