also-manga

[vestal mural]

I used to mangareader.to but I think it’s down now
Your best bet is nyaa. Look for the volumes or chapters by akraa

[stone terrace]

His hands are bound

Open the door mf 😭

[sage temple]

[blazing mantle]

L parenting once again

[sage temple]

Too nonchalant

[vital heart]

I have a better website. DM me if u want it

[royal orchid]

-Dad, I'm gonna quit the Marines.
-👍
-I despise you!!
-👍

[strong wadi]

Hard to tell atm. Oden had to watch his nation crumble over 5 years while Harald is about to lead his nation to the fall himself. You could argue making a mistake while things are already bad is worse or you can argue leading the nation into the mistake is worse

[unique lagoon]

im not surprised garp always been a terrible person to talk to about "feelings"

[lofty fern]

Indeed it was, though I can do without the "kays"

[strong wadi]

Either way, i didnt get mad at oden, i dont expect to get mad at harald either

[sage temple]

I just can't wait to see Loki kill Harald

They should've listened to Loki's beliefs

🤦‍♂️

[thick mango]

garp and dragon the highlight of gv for sure

[lofty fern]

It will be tragic

[solid stone]

he's reading one piece

[odd rune]

oh so the website i TOLD YOU to use ?? @vestal mural

yeah

YEA/

[soft tangle]

Harald and Oden “fell for the villains lies again award” 🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇

[sage temple]

No, there isn't lightning on every page

[odd rune]

thanks though i couldnt remember it

[unique lagoon]

those ancient eyes doing work here

[vestal mural]

Lmfao

[vestal mural]

Memory of a fruit fly

[odd rune]

nah im fr i just couldnt remember the url

[sage temple]

I wanna see all the mysteries solved about that incident

[odd rune]

thanks

HEY

thats not nice

[stone terrace]

I have criticisms of oden

[soft tangle]

Sengoku really got his ass beat by a 20% HP Garp

[odd rune]

i changed pcs a while ago and lost my bookmarks ok

[stone terrace]

But not like with harald

[unique lagoon]

well i think we are all expecting herald to redeem himself somehow
reason he got killed

[stone terrace]

Oden at least had the weight of hostages weighing on his brain

[lofty fern]

I'm not

[solid stone]

OH SNAP

DUDE

WE'RE FINALLY GETTING A GARP DRAGON INTERACTION

AFTER ALL THESE YEARS

[soft tangle]

?

[solid stone]

DUUUDE.

[soft tangle]

?

[royal orchid]

Oden was a martyr that brought hope that Wano would one day be free

Harald doomed Elbaf by being king

[dense rapids]

?

[sage temple]

Guys he doesn't know you're confused

[tranquil blade]

"?" might be the ultimate bait

[sage temple]

I wanna see more question marks

[soft tangle]

Few panels = peak? Oda = goat? 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[abstract sonnet]

hi

[sage temple]

True

[woeful moth]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-anakin-skywalker-i-hate-you-anakin-i-hate-you-i-dont-like-you-gif-18829084

[lofty fern]

Come on Meeks, you know that's not going to be how it goes

[woeful moth]

anakin but to the good side

[solid stone]

love how he's so casual about it too

[lofty fern]

too casual

[strong wadi]

I mean, Garp can't blame him

[soft tangle]

Garp fans are the lebron fans of one piece

[sage temple]

Why is Dragon even telling him that

[solid stone]

was loki ragebaiting...........

[sage temple]

😭

[tranquil blade]

Garp knows he can't defend the government's actions on GV

[stone terrace]

I dont like how tcb translates it

[royal orchid]

I don't see Harald bringing hope to elbaf by dying inside his own throne room

[stone terrace]

Dragon calls garp "oyaji"

[unique lagoon]

if im garp i be like
no shit you are quitting you just got fired and prob will be executed

[vital heart]

How else should I do it

[sage temple]

Do it yourself then

[stone terrace]

POPS

[tranquil blade]

He did ragebait Luffy in the beginning of the arc

[vital heart]

Pops and dad are fine

[sage temple]

True

[lofty fern]

Because Garp has probably badgered him all his life about "being a good marine"

[vital heart]

I had pops for the initial script. Feeso prefers dad

[solid stone]

actually yeah the kay is weird lol

[sage temple]

Idk bruh I would've stfu after the first "kay"

[royal orchid]

sorry meek the kay just isn't popular

[solid stone]

any insights on this?

[lofty fern]

That can translate to dad, pops, or many equivalents.

[tranquil blade]

Meek it's OVER

[unique lagoon]

"FINE" perhaps?

[solid stone]

on this i mean

[keen quiver]

I feel oda likely changed his mind on the type of man sengoku was when marineford swung by. Sengoku and akainu in ohara felt like they were in similar wavelengths of justice. But yeah I agree that most of the shift in justice was from garp who trained kuzan, Toby and a lot of sword members. All in all the priority for him 80% of the time is civilians and how the government is seen when it comes to protecting the average citizen. Down to cutting the feed so they wouldn't lose face once teach went on a rampage and things gotna bit out of hand. He din't want a 2nd era of piracy to ignite and cause chaos. Its always funny to me he stands on a side that should be morally correct but serving under such a corrupt government and the celestials. But I do see the value of having a character like him around even if I personally don't like him.

[calm wave]

i mean garp would've done the same after what he saw but he wanted to "protect the marines"

[stone terrace]

Little differences in the way people speak are still important

[unique lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-silk-song-silksong-hollow-knight-silksong-hornet-gif-9486712578214888028

garp

[royal orchid]

I like I know...

[solid stone]

man that's so cool though

we finally got a dragon-garp interaction after all this itme

[vital heart]

Mother fucker

[sage temple]

Top tier criticism

[solid stone]

we're really in the endgame now

[tranquil blade]

Did Dragon already hate Garp or was it this incident that made him decide to hate Garp

[lofty fern]

Like Loki also calls his dad Oyaji, but I don't think he would all him pops

[unique lagoon]

people looking pass garp taking the effort releasing him

[keen quiver]

You reading what I'm saying about sengoku ?

[hallow herald]

what a great opportunity to do some chapter math wehehehehehe

[keen quiver]

😭

[thick mango]

probably this i think otherwise why say it

[urban lodge]

He doesn't hate him anymore in the present so it's interesting

[sage temple]

Oh yeah

[vestal mural]

Well in the taws he just says “aa” which is basically “uh huh”

Kay is fine

[sage temple]

Yeah that

[solid stone]

Would a "Yeah." have worked?

[sage temple]

Yep

[soft tangle]

Oda loves children being left behind by fathers

[vital heart]

@solid stone

[wet condor]

I was gonna say, there isn't much he can say

[vital heart]

@vestal mural

[dense rapids]

Chapter 1167 next week

[mighty shell]

i'd have translated it as "aight"

[dense rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/bosnov-67-bosnov-67-67-meme-gif-16727368109953357722

[wet condor]

Maybe "I know"

[solid stone]

that's kind of the vibe I get from that

[vestal mural]

Anything would have worked zyph

[woeful moth]

and then Akainu said... "Yeah i hate Marineford... let's move the headquarters" fuck sengoku

[thick mango]

and if garp sold the marines to dragon as like an opportunity to do good this was such a complete hollowing out of that idea. Not only did he need to support an overall bad thing of the terrible CDs, he tried to do a tiny amount of good in the horrible situation, save one baby, and he thinks he failed.

[unique lagoon]

sorry ace you aint really garps son
you aint getting free mf
you will prob just waste it being bated by yo mama bait

[wet condor]

"I know"

[vital heart]

@royal orchid @tranquil blade @unique lagoon

[keen quiver]

Buddy, i always get into reading comprehension piece when someone engages me properly.

[lofty fern]

I have a theory it's more of a Luffy thing. Like he only talks to Garp when it comes to Luffy

[solid stone]

lol I can... acutally see that

[odd rune]

allow me to ask you a question @solid stone

[soft tangle]

Alright fits better

Imo

[urban lodge]

Yeah could be

[solid stone]

go for it

[odd rune]

did you notice the goat made a return

[tranquil blade]

Okay would probably be fine but the translation u did is probably okay too

[solid stone]

[tranquil blade]

Fishbonen

[lofty fern]

But then again, what else would Dragon and Garp talk about?

[odd rune]

FISHBONEN

[sage temple]

[keen quiver]

Spoiled

Insane

[solid stone]

oh snap

[vital heart]

Not a real character lol

[solid stone]

wait

[unique lagoon]

see i told you meek its the same guy

[vestal mural]

Not complaining. Just saying either is fine. I know it’s not just you who decides anyway. It goes through many people. Blaming a single person is dumb anyway

[tranquil blade]

He is real

[solid stone]

that was him????

[tranquil blade]

Yes

[keen quiver]

You gotta just engage me using a non agenda piece attack

[unique lagoon]

yes

[odd rune]

idk im just gonna say it is

[solid stone]

I was gonna post that guy earlier LOL

[vital heart]

FISHBONEN IS IRRELEVANTFISHBONEN IS IRRELEVANTFISHBONEN IS IRRELEVANTFISHBONEN IS IRRELEVANTFISHBONEN IS IRRELEVANT

[tranquil blade]

Kay

[strong wadi]

I'll blame meek as much as i damn well please, tyvm

[sage temple]

No can do

🤷‍♂️

[mighty shell]

sure grandma let's get you to bed

[royal orchid]

did Yeah... not get past?

[solid stone]

yeah yeah fries in the bag

[lofty fern]

In my head, I only hear "'kay" from teenage girls that aren't listening and are ignoring you

[sage temple]

I live and breathe agenda

[vital heart]

My original TL used Alright...

Feeso switched to Kay

[vestal mural]

Have your scapegoat and eat it too king

[vital heart]

so the alternate reality would've been you guys reading a chapter that had Garp say "alright..."

[keen quiver]

Meek the strongest scapegoat

[vital heart]

I'm good with both.

[unique lagoon]

look he just quit smoking
people would chew on something to quit sometimes
he just weird with it with fish bone

[tranquil blade]

Meek really is the server scapegoat that's unfortunate

[vestal mural]

Ngl I understand why people don’t like kay. I’m fine with it but it’s a bit too casual idk

[royal orchid]

Alright... is pure acceptance

[woeful moth]

the thing i think about is... if he despise him so much... why left his kid to him? there's something there that happened in between this and now

[odd rune]

im not a fishbonen i'm a fishbonen's son

[vital heart]

Well the reference text is hard to work with. Only so many English words that can fill in for "aa..."

[mighty shell]

he hates his kid too

[vestal mural]

Yea that’s fair

[solid stone]

old marineford :)

[vestal mural]

You could even go with “oh yea?” or “I see”

[tranquil blade]

Would a 40 year old man say "Kay" is the true question

[mighty shell]

"aa" is such a funny response to that though. your son tells you he hates your guts and you're just like damn that's fair

[lofty fern]

Who else did he have? Garp was his only option

[royal orchid]

'Kay... feels like he's a bit annoyed at dragon but that's just how I understand it

[odd rune]

i feel like it is just a funny response from garp and thats fine and 'kay' is fine

[woeful moth]

he's literally obssessed with him always looking east tho

[fallen meteor]

personally i'd translate it to 'of course my dearest son'

[woeful moth]

[vital heart]

Yes

[mighty shell]

always looking east in ANGER. GLARING at the east blue

[vestal mural]

Peak

[odd rune]

like oda coulda written 'mm' or whatever

[solid stone]

"yeah" is the vibe I got from meek's explanation but I can't read the original so I wouldn't know

[royal orchid]

Affirmation.

[lofty fern]

I told meek it sounds patronizing

[stone terrace]

Garp really said "skill issue lol"

[unique lagoon]

dragon could have given luffy to his best friend akainu smh

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-ai-luffy-akainu-sakazuki-gif-12539038145675954246

[vital heart]

MOTHER FUCKER

WHATS A BETTER WORD THAN KAY OR YEAH OR ALRIGHT

PICK

[tranquil blade]

Garp probably is disappointed that Dragon is defecting but he also cant bring himself to blame Dragon or stop him

[vital heart]

Pretend you're me yesterday and writing the script. What would you have written instead

[fallen meteor]

dude they will kiss one of these days

[fallen meteor]

i know it

[mighty shell]

"so true bestie"

[olive sigil]

Well done

[solid stone]

[[daddy i'm quitting the marines]
[uh huh.]
[i hate you.]
[so true bestie]

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/druski-holding-laugh-holding-laugh-holding-laughter-trying-not-to-laugh-gif-14728402291966348228

[solid stone]

had to change after emood posted

[strong wadi]

So what are the thoughts on the spread?

Tama, Shinobu and Yamato 😱 Time for an Oli come back????

Time for a new Evan pfp (The fox)???? 😱

But most importantly, Luffy/Nami seem kinda off. Luffy is giving major short king vibes and Nami is giving child vibes, idk. (Inb4 someone mentions perspective in the foreground or something stupid like that as if I'm not taking that concept into consideration when typing this)

[royal orchid]

native english speakers what's the difference between yeah and alright because to me it's the same

[woeful moth]

idk man... but if i despise him... i'd never give that man my child... i'd rather him be with the revolutionaries i trust... there's something there

[soft tangle]

Tired of seeing Yamato

[runic dock]

Alright now I can say my epiphany

[odd rune]

i said this about luffy and nami as well

nami looks like pudding almost

[olive sigil]

Don’t like it. None of the cool strawhats are in

[solid stone]

big fan of glasses luffy and the evantengu next to him

[runic dock]

Harald is in the process now of pouring one out for his homie

[stone terrace]

Dragon just had the worst day of his life

Its been 38 years

[tranquil blade]

Now did you think about perspective when typing this

[royal orchid]

fill the chat with messages so earl's gets buried chat

[hallow herald]

agreement vs reluctant acceptance

[tranquil blade]

[lofty fern]

https://tenor.com/view/christmas-eve-merry-christmas-eve-christmas-merry-christmas-merry-christmas-funny-gif-430695432462173815

[fallen meteor]

one is like 'sim' the other is like 'uhum'

[urban lodge]

Luffy kinda pisses me off in this color spread idk why

[stone terrace]

Well 19 years from when luffy was born

[olive sigil]

Fishbonen?

[runic dock]

:(

[unique lagoon]

[[daddy i'm quitting the marines]

[6 7]

[i hate you.]

[ 💀 ]

[royal orchid]

but uhum is uh-huh

[odd rune]

also yamato is just way too small

[soft tangle]

Better writing than official

[vital heart]

Lol funny

[olive sigil]

Meek you got some explaining to do

[celest mauve]

everyone here has kiddish proprotions

[solid stone]

not the skull lol

[odd rune]

you need to be stopped

[olive sigil]

Why did you leave Jinbe out of the cover page?

[solid stone]

dude

i need more garp-dragon stuff

[soft tangle]

Too much aura

[fallen meteor]

one is 'tá né' the other is 'se você falou ta falado'

[solid stone]

I NEED MORE MONKEY D FAMILY INTERACTIONS

[lofty fern]

That would kinda defeat the point. The revs would have the same problem as him.

[vestal mural]

That’s all you get for the next 26 years

[tranquil blade]

Everyone's heads are huge in that spread, even Zoro's kinda

[solid stone]

I can't believe we're actually getting close to Luffy-Dragon stuff

[fallen meteor]

damn bro if you all could understand portuguese this message would be going double platinum on reacts

🙁

[odd rune]

same reason robin and brook arent there

[celest mauve]

I think oda does too much with the "luffy is my ideal child" bit though, he's still nearly 20 man

[strong wadi]

Eh Usopp and Zoro arent really giving it except Zoro isn't a muscle daddy and Sanji it's hard to really tell cause his legs are hidden

[solid stone]

I am so interested in what their dynamic's gonna be

[odd rune]

oda is racist against old people

[solid stone]

[mighty shell]

have to apologize to dragon for the slander i was unfamiliar with his garp hating game

[vestal mural]

!numbers

[tropic nova]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/486983010025996299/953003986586320976/Screenshot_20220314-235556_Gallery.png?width=960&height=527

[celest mauve]

zoro genuinely looks like he has FMI luffy's build here minus the thicker neck

[vital heart]

!fuckharald

!fucksengoku

!sengoku

[vestal mural]

That’s exactly how the interaction would go lol

[solid stone]

YO

I didn't even get to read the right side panels yet, this just popped up on me

[sage temple]

Dude takes 20 minutes to read 1 page

😭

[mighty shell]

wait what the heck is going on with yamato's neck lmfao

[strong wadi]

Yeah but that's still adult-like, he is definitely muscle-downed though

[royal orchid]

one is in Elbaf with The Devil himself, the other hiding in Kamabakka Queendom and the last is in Hachinosu's underground prison
they could not be farther away right now

[prisma idol]

?

[hallow herald]

nobody cares but he's holding up a big 11 to the audience just like Rocks was when he showed up

[olive sigil]

oda hates me. leaving out my favourite strawhats but including that oden fellow

[unique lagoon]

so luffy dint even know he had a father
so dragon was literally never there
only luffys mom
so how did garp got luffy?

[fallen meteor]

looks alright

[solid stone]

me too man, me too. that looked painful.

[odd rune]

why is nami wearing a hat the size of zoros entire head

[fallen meteor]

a bit long maybe

[lofty fern]

That family doesn't talk much. Luffy hasn't talked to Garp in years

[celest mauve]

I wonder if luffy is capable of feeling any resentment at his dad not being around at all in his life (dragon didn't reveal himself to luffy in loguetown so it doesn't count)

[mighty shell]

nah he's not the type to care

[wet condor]

Luffy don't care none

[strong wadi]

Also now that chapter is out, im confused on what i thought was a spoiler. Someone mentioned in #manga earlier today about xebec having the same hair color as gunko

[mighty shell]

it'd be weirder if he did

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/yamato-gif-23141371

yamato always had a long neck

[odd rune]

quick mip what does this say

[formal wagon]

who keeps pinging me in announcments

[wet condor]

Given the way he's acted up to this point

[stone terrace]

Yamato looks very... normal

[wet condor]

But I bet you he'll wind up liking him lol

[solid stone]

Where is Imu

[mighty shell]

well dammit now i can't unsee it

[woeful moth]

Dragon and Luffy's interaction is gonna feed generations

[lofty fern]

It's the blue hair brigade

[olive sigil]

@lofty fern @stray prism you both survive. Because it's been 15 chapters, you now need 2 characters from now on to keep playing until we have a winner. Good luck

[unique lagoon]

3 foxes? oda joining the half life 3 rumors

[celest mauve]

I know and I kinda wish he did, I know I'm going to find it a little boring when he just picks his nose and goes "whatever"

[fallen meteor]

holy shit the game EVOLVED

😮

[mighty shell]

this means a very different thing outside of one piece

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-yamato-eating-cute-gif-10850909134169475312

[formal wagon]

HOLY SHIT ITS FISHBONEN

[strong wadi]

damn, it was getting my hopes up again about davy d buggy

[fallen meteor]

post the picmix

[prisma idol]

That's hilarious that it scanned the other side of the page

[formal wagon]

where the hell is the gif button

[tranquil blade]

It's not the same color, it's like indigo colored hair for Xebec

[formal wagon]

i can't i don't have a gucking gif button

[royal orchid]

my god Yamato is a giraffe how did I never notice this

[odd rune]

yeah right i only just noticed lol

[strong wadi]

what image are people talking about

[fallen meteor]

click emote then go to gif maybe idk

[royal orchid]

jump cover

[lofty fern]

People keep trying to have Rocks step out on Eris...stop it

[formal wagon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/738580480437387264/1293682088746160229/picmix.com_12095497.gif

[solid stone]

that's endgame endgame stuff right there

[mighty shell]

i'm going through the same thing man

[solid stone]

great chapter.

[formal wagon]

i'm in your debt.

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/yamato-one-piece-yamato-one-piece-gif-23140719

[wet condor]

Gerolsteiner is the most bougie but best tasting sparkling water in the world

That is all

[formal wagon]

😭 chapter released now i have to read chapter man this is the worst

[mighty shell]

jjk fans

[celest mauve]

why is she so mid

or he, idrc

[lofty fern]

It's basically the same color Oda sometimes makes Law's hair

[royal orchid]

idk who this she is I only see Oden

[lofty fern]

I will not be surprised if it goes black at times

[soft tangle]

So mid?

[formal wagon]

WAAAAA IM SAD I JUST READ HE CHAPTER

[mighty shell]

didn't know oden ate kaku's fruit

[solid stone]

i forget law's dark blue haired

[celest mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-dog-sleeping-sleeping-dog-dog-sleeping-tiny-eepy-dog-gif-2292331323183720739

[solid stone]

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/ragebait-typing-discord-0-out-of-10-ragebait-angry-gif-11431575120361345524

[urban lodge]

Blue haired Law is as cursed as orange Kuma

[wet condor]

blue haired law sucks yeah

[fallen meteor]

made a low 'heh' sound at this one

[strong wadi]

definitely not

[wet condor]

He just look weird

[wet condor]

I always imagine him with black hair

Xebec's is alright

[calm wave]

those massive bobas brought down her shoulders

[wet condor]

He could've been worse

[strong wadi]

the scar being that color with the hair is so wack

[odd rune]

so cool we finally seeing rocks

[urban lodge]

It's not great but it's not bad either

[strong wadi]

how is oda gonna ruin page one and then ruin xebec like that. LEARN FROM YOUR MISTAKES

[urban lodge]

Better than black and white

[odd rune]

obviously not a scar then

[celest mauve]

what does this do to the WB agenda

[stone terrace]

Toadgashi banger

[vestal mural]

wtf lol. I guess it’s smth about vivre cards?

[tranquil blade]

Idk it just means Whitebeard wasn't him yet

[lofty fern]

Oda mixes up the colors at times, like Nami has blue eyes this time for some reason

[tranquil blade]

Whitebeard is him later on

[celest mauve]

true

[lofty fern]

It'll probably filter to black at times

[formal wagon]

holy shit this is insane

i can't believe oda gave a number

[odd rune]

yep its no kiddin

[mighty shell]

that's like ten alabastas

[lofty fern]

It IS a big planet

[vestal mural]

Contact lenses

[odd rune]

it sure is emood

[solid stone]

that's like a gargantuan ton of sand

[lofty fern]

We have more than that on Earth

[mighty shell]

so much desert sand doodoo

[odd rune]

but thats not just the marines i think thats talking about the marines + the armies of all nations considered by the world government

[tranquil blade]

The Marines at least gotta have like 500,000 right

[dense rapids]

Final War about to be insane

[solid stone]

https://tenor.com/view/crocodile-poop-playing-with-my-gif-23084646

[royal orchid]

oda giving us a number on anything

rare air everybody

[formal wagon]

i mean that oda gave a number

[mighty shell]

this is a great gif zyph thank you for this

[stone terrace]

The USA only has about a million active soldiers i do believe

[soft tangle]

No rocks bounty

[lofty fern]

Oh, I guess so

[stone terrace]

And we're more heavily militarized than most

[solid stone]

you're welcome (i was hoping to find a 4kids crocodile gif)

[latent hamlet]

the last time he gave such a concrete number was like what?
wano armies vs kaido?

[woeful moth]

also... this One Piece World is a post apocalyptic world anyway... the population is bound to be lower

[vital heart]

We have lower and upper bounds now.

min: 10,000,000
max: 99,999,999

[pulsar path]

The usual answer in one-piece sadly lmao

[odd rune]

https://tenor.com/view/4kids-national-anthem-usa-flag-sonic-luffy-gif-675591735104028676

[woeful moth]

like just a few centuries remove from the last apocalypse

[lofty fern]

It actually should be higher because of its sheer size

[strong wadi]

The numbers just remind me how i had to talk to some dummy in #manga like 2 weeks about about how if a good option of the marines betrayed, it would be a major force

[solid stone]

i can hear luffy's voice

[blazing depot]

😭 😭

[formal wagon]

interesting, thanks for sharing

[lofty fern]

I remember when I watched all of these shows

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/plaqueboymax-pbm-side-eye-d6nz-stare-gif-1176261859405023783

[strong wadi]

blue checkmarks and posting bait, name a better duo

[vestal mural]

People hate him? I thought he was well liked

[blazing depot]

Garling is hated cuz he’s lame as hell

[solid stone]

man

I need to see current Dragon's interactions with current Garp

[mighty shell]

old garling has so much more aura

[solid stone]

I can't believe we actually got this

[soft tangle]

Garp just repeats his coping mechanisms

[lofty fern]

https://tenor.com/view/i'm-still-alive-ozai-avatar-the-last-airbender-surviving-resilence-gif-407810152176724951

[woeful moth]

when there's constant "hunting" and just erasing things... its bound to be lower... plus its bigger but with WAY more water mass than land mass... and some of the land mass ain't fertile...

[tranquil blade]

Well he's hated now because he failed in his first fight and he killed Rocks, who almost everyone likes

[vestal mural]

I love how harald is a victim of the sunken cost fallacy at this point

[formal wagon]

nAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH 💀

deadass dragon was in the dic building

[vestal mural]

Eh. That’s dumb

[formal wagon]

you can't make this up

[blazing depot]

Fr he should’ve stayed a YN

[woeful moth]

also again just few centuries remove from an apocalypse that resulted from having Robots and lasers to ancient times with flintlocks and shit

[strong wadi]

Disseminated Intravascular Coagulation Building? 😱

[vestal mural]

Go away with your medicine memes Adam

You’re not welcome here

Shoo shoo

[lofty fern]

Department of Incarceration and Corrections

[strong wadi]

No, this man has a MAHA!!!! (Microangiopathic hemolytic anemia)

[vital heart]

I think Mjosgard and Rocks still have a solid, nonzero chance of being alive.

Does this mean Garling is a fraud among frauds?

[formal wagon]

yeah

[sage temple]

There he go with that bs

[soft tangle]

Garling and Sengoku equally ass

[tranquil blade]

Rocks is dead

[mighty shell]

make alabasta healthy again

[dense rapids]

😭😭😭😭

[formal wagon]

Dragon was kind of mean to his dad this chapter ngl

not cool

[tranquil blade]

Rocks is as dead as Pedro

[urban lodge]

Finally

[formal wagon]

every chapter dragon becomes more evil

[frigid gulch]

Is he really

[lofty fern]

100% a question, but a stupid one.

[formal wagon]

who's pedro

[celest mauve]

oda has now gone 0/3 with kuja empresses, will he fail with tritoma too

[sage temple]

Zoro's dad did

[tranquil blade]

1/3

[sage temple]

King of chests

[woeful moth]

they gave him formula milk

[mighty shell]

you mean luffy's mom?

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-looking-down-disappointed-gif-10039657752664545881

[lofty fern]

Neither Shakky nor Gloriosa have kids so how are they supposed to feed anyone?

[vital heart]

Luffys mom is the goat

[celest mauve]

this shit will never make sense

[woeful moth]

some people just doesn't know biology that much hahaha

[royal orchid]

every arc a new candidate for Luffy's mom is chosen

[mighty shell]

i would unironically never have learned tritoma's name had it not been for the luffy's mom stuff

[indigo yacht]

I can never hate you harald

[royal orchid]

Tritoma has simply won the last couple

[woeful moth]

they just think boobs = milk HAHAHA

[mighty shell]

i can

[odd rune]

who

[woeful moth]

[celest mauve]

1. amazon lily women cannot give birth to boys according to the narrator and there's zero evidence to contradict this
2. tritoma died of unrequited love, how is that possible if she got so far as to have a kid with dragon?

[woeful moth]

ahh yess the oh so RELIABLE narrator

[ionic palm]

I dont think thats what the narrator said.

[mighty shell]

they had sex then dragon realized he likes men

[celest mauve]

you got evidence to prove the narrator wrong?

[wraith mantle]

oda had to spell it out for some of yall LMAO
@steel stirrup @wet heron

[lofty fern]

People think women have breasts that always have milk in them... Reminds of that Clevatass anime from last season

[wraith mantle]

rocks is not only a friend

he is his best fucking friend

[urban lodge]

Another instance of Oda dementia

[royal orchid]

1 was actually disproven in a recent fix, Amazon Lily women only give birth to girls when inside the island
2 is because dragon

[remote maple]

so the way to reverse domi reversi is using a shit ton of conq haki

[vestal mural]

If no milk inside then why boobie big

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-meme-trying-not-to-laugh-laugh-homeless-gif-9458928528704746136

[mighty shell]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-yachty-censored-not-drake-tech-support-gif-8658410013845332703

[tough dust]

not a fan of how TCB did garp convo with dragon lol

[indigo yacht]

Let’s look at the facts- Harald took Elbaf out of war and famines and set up trades with neighboring nations 💯

[sage temple]

Loki made up for Harald's lack of spine

[vital heart]

I am not about to respond to this again

[tranquil blade]

If you hit them really really hard

[soft tangle]

There was no saving the garp dragon convo

[remote maple]

what does it say in japanese?

[solid stone]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-sadness-pet-head-caterpie-sad-gif-16792400

[lofty fern]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-another-one-one-gif-5057861

[indigo yacht]

Did dragon really say despise?

[tough dust]

😭

[royal orchid]

set up portals for WG to enter unannounced as well

[wraith mantle]

ease up on my boy harald

[lofty fern]

But I don't blame Meek, he tried his best

[urban lodge]

First it was Roger crying after this and now this after Harald called him a villain

[wraith mantle]

and garp hit him with Kay

[solid stone]

don't blame meek blame the person below me instead

[sage temple]

Don't care he should've listened to Loki when he had the chance

[royal orchid]

meek is a great scapegoat I gotta say

[vital heart]

he used this word: 軽蔑

[tranquil blade]

Meek enters Dante's Inferno every time a tcb release happens

[solid stone]

yeah blame socrates

[sage temple]

Loki expressed his views publicly

[mighty shell]

goddammit socrates

[wraith mantle]

😭

[mighty shell]

translate this manga better

[celest mauve]

what are you talking about, genuinely lol

[sage temple]

Yeah my fault

[royal orchid]

and goes back again when Viz releases

[winter comet]

Lunarian on Roger’s crew? Page 6

[sage temple]

I got yall 1167

[solid stone]

draw the manga better too

[indigo yacht]

What does that say ? I don’t know Japanese

[sage temple]

Sorry I only pay attention to Loki when I'm drawing

[winter comet]

Some guy with black wings on Roger’s pirates maybe he has a devil fruit though

[mighty shell]

it says "despise"

[woeful moth]

wait... Tritoma died of love sickness... Love is always a hurricane... Dragon does make wind/hurricanes...

[lofty fern]

Yeah, he basically said a word that is one level up from simply hate. More like despise or scorn

[vital heart]

I loathe you. I despise you.

[wraith mantle]

yall 0/2 on reading comprehension

[woeful moth]

LOVE KILLS GUYS... ITS ALWAYS LOVE

[celest mauve]

"kirai"?

[vital heart]

I don't like you / i hate you

[solid stone]

well according to google translate it means 경멸

[indigo yacht]

Gotcha so meek did good

[celest mauve]

oh what's the romaji for what dragon said then?

[wet condor]

He'll get over it

[indigo yacht]

[wraith mantle]

never bet against on rocks

[vital heart]

KEIBETSU

[mighty shell]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-yachty-censored-not-drake-tech-support-gif-8658410013845332703

[urban lodge]

Elaborate

[celest mauve]

damn

[wet condor]

He more or less has lol

[formal wagon]

dragon is not very nice

[celest mauve]

he apparently did by the time of post-enies lobby

[formal wagon]

very rude guy

[indigo yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-yachty-censored-not-drake-tech-support-gif-8658410013845332703

[tranquil blade]

If Luffy was a Marine at Loguetown would Dragon have beat his ass

[wet condor]

Yeah lol

[wraith mantle]

maybe another time i am tired asl

[formal wagon]

no but he would probably be rude. dragon is a rudeness merchant.

[urban lodge]

Lol

[woeful moth]

the word is like a more pronounced hatred... like despise, loathe, etc...

[wraith mantle]

we getting a break next week?

[formal wagon]

first he was rude to his boss then his dad then baby shanks and shamrock

[indigo yacht]

I wonder if, as dragon got older, he came to stop despising garp . Seems like they still talk and dragon seems to have said that there’s good people in the marines iirc

Or was that someone else?

[tranquil blade]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[formal wagon]

self hating dragon

[vital heart]

Garp *

[strong wadi]

no, the self-hatred is forever

[wraith mantle]

thats what i like to fucking hear

[formal wagon]

SNAIL SNAIL SNAIL

[wraith mantle]

lets fucking go

[tranquil blade]

https://tenor.com/view/d9luxe-cry-gif-300276708782576950

[indigo yacht]

Yea yea yea you guys know what I mean

[formal wagon]

[indigo yacht]

[solid stone]

I need to see current Dragon and current Garp's interactions

[wraith mantle]

mailbox dont fuck with me

is there a break or no

[solid stone]

so happy we finally got this stuff

[royal orchid]

I'm not on tritoma theory by the way

[vital heart]

@indigo yacht

[formal wagon]

bro it says at the end of the chapter

nvm it doesnt

[wraith mantle]

bitch

made me open the chapter

[indigo yacht]

Yea I remember this like but I think I remember a Revos talking about the marines in a positive light?

[woeful moth]

Amazon Lily... what an island

[solid stone]

bro had an unbranded coat

[lofty fern]

I don't know if garp and Dragon would ever talk where Luffy isn't involved, but I do think he probably mellowed out a bit

[mighty shell]

bro really said some bad apples

[wraith mantle]

dragon entrusted the man with luffy

[vital heart]

@indigo yacht

[solid stone]

bro said WHAT

[wraith mantle]

surely they reconciled later

[indigo yacht]

This is the one

[solid stone]

https://tenor.com/view/ruan-mentioned-gif-23876676

[indigo yacht]

It was Iva I guess

[lofty fern]

I think that was VP reminding Dragon of that

[tranquil blade]

So in announcements it says no break but in this channel description it says there's a break

So which is it

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/rulocapirulo-teto-kasane-kasane-teto-vocaloid-touhou-gif-10948444851542679746

[celest mauve]

I heard there was a translation issue here and that it's supposed to say they literally only give birth to girls but even then, it doesn't make sense for tritoma to die of unrequited love if she had a child with whichever man she loved

[indigo yacht]

No break

[strong wadi]

prob just the mod not fixing that

[vital heart]

no break

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-why-are-you-laughing-hell-nah-lmao-oh-hell-no-speed-200-pump-gif-1963457475831277187

[urban lodge]

I think mods are just lazy and forgot to update it

[dense haven]

it just furthers prove dragon hates luffy

[tranquil blade]

Oh\

[vital heart]

Macks' fault.

[tranquil blade]

Meek chill

[vital heart]

oh sorry feeso is here, I need to stop baiting

[wraith mantle]

dragon was in logue town to kill luffy

[lofty fern]

Interesting that Iva says this since his experience with marines, at least when growing up would just be the people who would return him to slavery or kill him

[indigo yacht]

It’s fixed it’s fixed

[vital heart]

Zehahahaha

[solid stone]

rob puttin the hammer and wrench to work

[indigo yacht]

Crisis averted

[indigo yacht]

I earn my fatsbux

[lofty fern]

No break

[wraith mantle]

?????????

[woven talon]

Maybe, I favored Kay because I didn’t want the reader to think Garp was answering in a serious way. Kay felt more casual and dismissive. I think alright is almost too natural here.

[wraith mantle]

imma ping Red

[dense haven]

when is rob putting the hammer and scythe to work

[vital heart]

Please do not

Red would genuinely ban me

[indigo yacht]

[vital heart]

In a flow state

[wraith mantle]

that would be desired

[woven talon]

But this is purely a subjective opinion thing lol. I wasn’t married to
It. After a nap, uh huh does fell better.

[mighty shell]

sooo true

[royal orchid]

I shall summon the mods.

[indigo yacht]

The fatsbux will be distributed to the people

It’s not a whole lot mind you

[mighty shell]

SEIZE THE MEANS OF MODERATION

[solid stone]

they should give helpers scythes

like if you agree

[grand flower]

You’re so close

[mighty shell]

YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE BUT YOUR ROLES

[wraith mantle]

is there a trashcan icon for helpers

[royal orchid]

they should give helpers better brooms so they can be better janitors

[lofty fern]

I think that's very wrong. Why would Garp be dismissive of his son's feelings? I think it very much is a serious moment. It basically is a break in their relationship

[soft tangle]

Helpers are Sengokus

[tranquil blade]

Dictatorship of the helperletariat

[solid stone]

zoro was The First Helper

[vital heart]

Does that make me a celestial dragon

[grand flower]

Kay is good. It shows Garp isn’t being antagonistic or limiting to Dragon in anyway. He’s immediately accepting

[indigo yacht]

[vital heart]

btw

I made a crazy prediction for this chapter

[grand flower]

Because it’s a teenager telling his parent he hates them

[royal orchid]

you're the guy getting screamed at by a bunch of CDs because your lobster marker was spelt different

[dense haven]

meek what the word used for kay

[mighty shell]

no wet signs, if i slip and break my back who do i sue

[grand flower]

The gag is that Garp and Dragon are talking like Garp just took his car away it seems

[vital heart]

Look at this.

[woven talon]

He’s definitely not being very understanding or open. He’s giving a one word casual answer to him pouring his heart out. No matter what word we pick Garp is essentially not defending himself and letting dragon think whatever

[vital heart]

Is this not genuinely an insane prediction?

[royal orchid]

morj

[vital heart]

@royal orchid @dense haven @woven talon @grand flower @mighty shell

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[tranquil blade]

It's not that crazy but it did happen

[strong wadi]

No, that prediction isnt insane at all

[grand flower]

I don’t think we should take this as Garp not being understanding. Is the original Japanese something that’s typically indicative of that?

[vital heart]

I genuinely called it would happen at the end of the chapter.

I'm genuinely insane

[solid stone]

how do we know this is you, maybe @royal orchid posted this

[strong wadi]

if we had no prior knowledge that he had torn out his horns, then yes, it would have been an insane prediction.

[tranquil blade]

Genuinely genuinely genuinely

[vital heart]

I genuinely called it

[lofty fern]

Because he has a very good reason. I think to dismiss everything Dragon went through to "teenage rebellion" is highly disparaging to Dragon's character and how this will go throughout the story. Also that's not how Garp treats a teen who is just rebelling. He would just punch Dragon in the head and bark at him. Him being silent and thoughtful speaks a lot more to the seriousness of the situation

[woven talon]

That’s kinda why I didn’t wanna use uh huh because it might sound snarky. Kay felt like the best inbetween of casual and non argumentative. I wanted him to feel casually resigned to this bad outcome.

[grand flower]

I’m pretty sure it’s just Garp letting the “I hate you” part run off his back. He knows his son is lashing out and doesnt genuinely hate him

[royal orchid]

I said before 1166 gifs that the chapter would start with Rocks' death/GV end, go to world reactions and end with Harald ripping out his horns along with the reactions to transition back to elbaf

[vital heart]

If my dad made me complicit in a genocide, I would hate him.

TF?

[grand flower]

Well that didn’t happen to Dragon

[vital heart]

you said that?

[royal orchid]

I was only slightly wrong sadly

Harald waited a little before ripping them off

[lofty fern]

Yes, its a short answer because Garp is being thoughtful. It's similar to when Ace died. "'Kay" to me just felt patronizing

[solid stone]

["UGH. I *hate* you pa-pa. I'm LEAVING." *Does emo hair flip*]
["ok."]

[strong wadi]

He'd be mad at Garp for sticking with the marines after they participated in that atrocity.

[lofty fern]

But it did?

[soft tangle]

Stand aside Dragon, let them erase islands from history.

[tranquil blade]

Garp didn't know

[dense haven]

is there any response that wouldn't feel that way

[grand flower]

@vital heart @stone tulip @ashen perch Harald’s “blunder” was endearing himself to the world leaders with this display. He no longer was primed to be manipulated because he won’t be desperate anymore

[royal orchid]

I thought Harald would rip out his horns in that same desk we saw him writing alongside Ida/talking with Rocks but he waited and did it at Marineford

[grand flower]

Post the page where Garp made dragon complicit in a genocide

[vital heart]

Oh marineford.

[vital heart]

Dragon literally shot civilians.

[solid stone]

I thought he only shot a marine?

[grand flower]

Post the page where Garp made him do that

[lofty fern]

I think at this point Dragon DOES hate Garp. That's why Oda used a word stronger that hate and showed Dragon's eyes. Maybe their relationship will mellow over time. But right now? I think he does hate him and Garp understands that

[royal orchid]

he only shot a CD and aimed at a Marine

what are we saying

[solid stone]

ah a CD, my bad

[woven talon]

I don’t think he’s not understanding sorry, that was a bad way to put it. I think he’s resigned to this falling out being inevitable maybe even good for dragon. Either way he can’t articulate why he’s not leaving and doesnt question dragons reason. Resigned to this out come is what I’d say. @lofty fern

[grand flower]

Dragon is just a teenager lashing out

[dense haven]

I thought harald was gonna rip his horns and come in swinging

[tranquil blade]

Was it even an actual bullet? I thought it was tranquilizer darts?

[dense haven]

yea dragon had tranq

[royal orchid]

I wish it was a bullet so I could see that pig bleed o- ahem yeah it was a tranquilizer

[vital heart]

tranq is slang for tranquilizer darts

lol

[grand flower]

It genuinely did come off to me like a parent just recognizing their emotional teenage son is venting those intense emotions with harsh words

[tranquil blade]

I don't even think Dragon used a bullet on that CD he didn't even kill anyone

[grand flower]

Garp understands this is what children do

[strong wadi]

Yes, Dragon definitely hates Garp right now. He is probably so disappointed beyond words that his Dad would stay in the Marines.

[lofty fern]

So his feelings are invalid?

[wraith mantle]

is it possible that you translated the harald's slave line wrong?

people been slandering harald man we need to fix this

[lofty fern]

What he went through is nothing?

[dense haven]

bro coping

[grand flower]

Dragon going from using tranqs on even the CDs to threatening to execute marines who don’t help civilians is such a good display of his radicalization

[blazing mantle]

How’s he already getting slandered

[woven talon]

I think that’s the point in dragon’s end. On Garp’s end it’s more tragic because he’s letting his son think he’s a mindless prat. I think Garp thinks he’s in too deep to turn his back on the marines who need him, and that he has no right to tell dragon how to react. So he’s resigned to let their relationship crumble and dragon to think the worst of him.

[grand flower]

If one of your student responded to frustration by throwing his book across the room, you’d tell him not to do that again and that wouldn’t be invalidating his feelings, would it?

[lofty fern]

A tranq can kill some one very easily

[grand flower]

Dragons feelings are valid

[wraith mantle]

bro selling himself into slavery for free

[strong wadi]

I mean my first thought after the chapter was, "Wow piratefolk is about to make dozens of oden/harald memes" and i was indeed correct

[grand flower]

Garp is just able to understand that his BEHAVIOR, the way he’s lashing out, is due to those intense emotions

[woven talon]

Yeah. That’s how I took it

[grand flower]

Garp isn’t taking it to heart because he knows Dragon doesnr mean it

[lofty fern]

You're equating a student throwing a book to what Dragon just went through?

[blazing mantle]

He’s being stupid but I didn’t think people would switch up so fast

Was it the same with oden

[olive sigil]

Congratulations. Remember it’s 2 characters now

[grand flower]

Alright

[tranquil blade]

I think Dragon hit his last straw when he thought he failed to save Shanks, at that point he was gonna do anything to save who he still could even if he had to kill people trying to stop him

[olive sigil]

@fallen meteor it’s ready

[cloud ember]

aww

[wraith mantle]

i aint switchin up but yeah this fandom is braindead

[grand flower]

Yeah, that broke him

[royal orchid]

even pew and redon said slave what are you saying

[vital heart]

No

[grand flower]

I bet dragon will have a reaction to red hair shanks the pirate some day

[royal orchid]

people are just understanding it wrong

[dense haven]

haraldbros are going thru it

[blazing mantle]

Thank you for being a day 1

Yo that reminds me

[grand flower]

Jesus Yall Harald died a king in his country

[blazing mantle]

@wet heron what are you gonna do now

[grand flower]

Obviously he didn’t end up becoming a slave

[solid stone]

https://x.com/SlayerKaraka_/status/1991345470359368177

Karaka (@SlayerKaraka_)

#ONEPIECE1166

This scene is gonna reversed in current time

Dragon will free Garp in Pirate Island

X · Nov 20, 2025, 3:18 AM

[royal orchid]

he died a tool

[grand flower]

This just shows his resolve to achieving this goal

[digital spear]

cook

[grand flower]

This is gonna age like milk

[solid stone]

I need a big spread/panel of the Monkey D fam all together

[blazing mantle]

Cook

[royal orchid]

not bogard

[woven talon]

I don’t think alright would’ve sounded too much more serious than Kay tbh lol. At the end of the day he is doing this. He’s not defending it or arguing. He’s resigned to let dragon crash out. Who is he to say his way or dragon’s is better? I think he’s resigned to let dragon think he’s a dick

[digital spear]

luffy dragon garp vs imu doublespread

[blazing mantle]

Oh we aren’t gonna get this until like the final saga

[olive sigil]

You think he’ll recognize him?

[lofty fern]

This is not just lashing out and I think Dragon has currently matured past anything any of my students are at right now. I think he is genuinely angry and enraged as his father. He was on that island and was basically scared for life. He saw the picture of the marines that his father built in his head, shatter and his father was even there at the time.

[wet condor]

Well he died with Elbaph never being part of the WG, so we know he does some shit to get out of their graces

[solid stone]

we are in the final saga

[lofty fern]

I think so

[blazing mantle]

The 3 monkeys are on the 3 major factions of the world

[blazing mantle]

I meant final war

[hallow herald]

in 719 we see Chinjao, who looks like Harald, lose his horn like Harald. 1166-719=447, in the first page of 447 we get the cerberus with the fox head, which reminds me of the 3 foxes oon the 1166 cover

[blazing mantle]

😴

[solid stone]

lol yeah i gotchu

[royal orchid]

to me 'Kay... sounds like he's annoyed that Dragon is angry

[trim lily]

i took it more like he couldnt argue

[grand flower]

I didn’t say he wasn’t genuinely angry at Garp. I said that being a teenager, Dragon doesnt yet fully know productive ways to express those intense emotions. Especially in such proximity to the events that caused them

Garp understands this

That’s why I said he’s lashing out

[lofty fern]

We're gonna run out of characters 😭

[soft tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/ome1-gif-17761724415044331036

[royal orchid]

like you know when someone says "okay okay okay okay okay" at someone arguing

[grand flower]

He obviously doesnr actually hate Garp

[olive sigil]

That’s the point

[grand flower]

He left Luffy with him

[tranquil blade]

How do you come up with this

[olive sigil]

I’m raising the challenge

It’s too easy for you 2

[blazing depot]

I hate OP Twitter

[royal orchid]

still 5 completely unused and unnamed HKs by the way

[hallow herald]

do u wanna know what all this bullshit means

[tranquil blade]

Idk maybe

[trim lily]

oh yeah what happened to all the 1166 theorists

[royal orchid]

this has to be bait

[trim lily]

guess that number didnt mean anything after all lol

[blazing depot]

Bait has to taste good

[woven talon]

See now I’m actually thinking Kay is the best choice because from Garp’s pov it’s the later and from dragon it’s the former resulting in that outburst lol. That interpretation difference might actually help the scene. It’s what real arguments are made of, when someone reads into your word choice wrongly.

[soft tangle]

They’re verified for a reason

[royal orchid]

now 1167 might go crazy

[hallow herald]

dont ever say that again

[strong wadi]

As i said like 20mins ago, name a better duo than blue checkmarks and posting bait

[hallow herald]

every combo of numbers is significant you apes

[strong wadi]

at least responding to trolls in this discord doesnt give them money

[trim lily]

im honestly surprised it could be taken as garp being annoyed

[solid stone]

1167 would be 200 chapters after "He laughed."

crazy how long it's been since then

[vital heart]

Guess what happens in 11 chapters.

[trim lily]

garp was pretty well aware of how horrible the event would be, especially for a cadet like dragon, so itd be weird if he didnt understand

[blazing depot]

Usopp Time!!

[vital heart]

It's my 200 chapter chapter-versary!

I started reading One Piece weekly on Chapter 976/977.

[dense haven]

baiting for the love of the game > baiting for money

[solid stone]

also wonder if it was Dragon that told him about that, or if he just heard from Marines in the area

[wet condor]

I just read it him acknowledge Dragon and not arguing because he gets it

[strong wadi]

If Garp is supposed to be "annoyed," Then I guess I have to join the Garp hate train. So I'm gonna stick with my interpretation that it's more like, "Yeah i get why you're saying all of this, it's valid"

[wet condor]

I don't think he's being dismissive of him or anything

[trim lily]

yeah but that generally has a different tone

[solid stone]

not yet, 10 more chapters for that!

[hallow herald]

remind me what chapter this is

[vital heart]

MF

I KNOW

[solid stone]

I got that from twitter hold on

[royal orchid]

twitter blue users after receiving their $8.23 for a whole month of engagement baiting 4x a day

[vital heart]

430 ish @hallow herald

[cloud ember]

SENGOKU WAS THE PAST VERSION OF HELMEPO!!!!!!!!!

[vital heart]

My guess is 433 or 434

[solid stone]

432 I think

[vital heart]

Oh

[solid stone]

let's check

[strong wadi]

you say this as if some of those accounts dont post their thousands in earnings every month

[hallow herald]

watch this

[wet condor]

I've responded with just "okay" before when I don't feel like arguing or there's nothing really to argue about or something similar

[lofty fern]

I think trying to constantly push it as "he's just a teenager" is patronizing to him. He's as much a man as most of our semi-teen cast is. He's more mature than most characters in this series even at this young age. And I think trying to diminish this scene simply as "a teen lashing out" is just...insulting. I think as Feeso said, it's more of resignation, guilt, and a feeling that this was always going to happen someday. It's a quiet acceptance of what must be even if he doesn't want it.

[solid stone]

i forgot it isn't called mangasee anymore

[dense haven]

garps expression is what matters not his words

[trim lily]

im really curious what drove sengoku to feel this way

[woven talon]

He’s definitely not annoyed or being dismissive. He’s resigned to it. I think dragon is meant to think Garp doesn’t care about GV or his crashout tho.

[royal orchid]

the big ones I block definitely do

[soft tangle]

You won’t find out

[trim lily]

huge

[solid stone]

Yep, 432

[sage temple]

Is that a hammer?

[solid stone]

yep

[sage temple]

[solid stone]

he was fixing the hole he broke

...

"the hole he broke"

[royal orchid]

3M followers getting money on Twitter by remaking 6 year old posts

[solid stone]

the hole he made in the wall

[sage temple]

Where else have I seen holes

Lulusia?

[solid stone]

[sage temple]

Loki's hammer can create holes like Lulusia?

[solid stone]

garp is PLUTON

[sage temple]

LET ME LAND

[trim lily]

kind of funny that god valley just sort of sank after all of this

[solid stone]

or uranus mb

pluton in wano

[grand rain]

yamato is super short in this

[tranquil blade]

I mean with all the powerful people fighting on it

[wet condor]

It'd be better if he explained his ideals some more lol

[lofty fern]

I will stick to my other versions for now, But I think it's a scene that's open for interpretation. I saw it completely differently

[tranquil blade]

and Roger and Garp putting all of their haki into a big attack I could see the island failing to hold up

[royal orchid]

wait true fucking oda height

[olive sigil]

Can we take a moment and acknowledge that’s fishbonen

[grand rain]

pretty classic

[trim lily]

with how it is now it just feels like sengoku is going "yeah theyre doing some heinous stuff but idc 😛 "

[trim lily]

wait holy shit it is

huge day for mailbox

[lofty fern]

Do love those little call backs

[soft tangle]

Akainu is more likable than Sengoku

[woven talon]

I think from dragon’s pov if Garp cared he’d be quitting too. Dragon might even blame Garp for making him complicit. Like imagine you join an organization your dad is in and in the first day you’re asked to commit genocide. Of course you blame him and don’t trust that he had no idea, especially if he refuses to quit or explain his reasoning

[olive sigil]

I want to see what mailbox thinks of this

[wet condor]

If I had to give him some, given all his talk about justice at Marineford and what have you, he just feels the WG is good for world peace and stability. If his superiors do crazy shit or act off their rocker, Sengoku asks himself "is the world still relatively stable and safe"?" and if he feels the answer is yes, he keeps it pushing lol

[wet condor]

It felt more like that in the spoilers lo

[olive sigil]

No he’s not what is wrong with you

[vital heart]

Then why does he care so much about Cross Guild?

[wet condor]

Now it seems more "well, they might do some insane shit, I'll just leave it alone"

[wet condor]

I don't know what you mean

[soft tangle]

Who questioned the elders to their face? Akainu.

[cloud ember]

two mature adults have a conversation

'kay

[lofty fern]

This is probably closer to what I was thinking. I think with everything that happened, having to stew in jail and THEN hearing everyone sing Garp's praises ad nauseum for days? And having those memories scarring him. Dragon's hate festered.

[royal orchid]

Akainu will ignore his superiors to cause more genocide

[wet condor]

Maybe

[royal orchid]

See: Ohara flashback

[soft tangle]

Which he finds Justice in

Sengoku would know the truth and still do it

[woven talon]

Yeah I think it is. I think we’re on the same page on his understanding and motivation, but I think Garp’s approach is meant to irk dragon. Like he’s not defending or contradicting. He’s responding to it like it’s normal and expected news. I don’t want to be on the extreme of sarcasm or the extreme of him sounding like he’s being an active listener

[trim lily]

though this makes garp being annoyed that dragon left to be a revo a bit weirder later

when he complained to kuzan

[olive sigil]

A fucked up version of Justice

[soft tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/akainu-akainu-one-piece-injured-whitebeard-vs-akainu-marineford-arc-gif-110329034109663270

[woven talon]

Yeah. Dragon’s end of this is reasonable, especially with how quiet Garp is being. Maybe Garp actually feels better being a punching bag after getting false praise because he feels bad, but he also feels he can’t leave the marines. Imagine how bad it’d be if the hero defected for the world’s morale and there’s all the junior officers he wants to look out for. I think he’s accepted this argument and fall out as inevitable and doesn’t want to contradict dragon. He’s unsure himself so he’s basically button bashing through the dialogue options, regardless if that makes him look bad to dragon.

[woven talon]

I always assumed that was more exasperation or surprise than genuine annoyance

I’m more baffled why he wanted luffy and ace as marines

[trim lily]

the way i took it is garp's current motivation is to make sure the next generation of marines is better than he (and the others) is

[olive sun]

Lost a lot of respect for Sengoku this chapter

[trim lily]

yeah i dont get sengoku's motivation or reasoning at all

[spice cairn]

It took you this long to lose it?

Ayyy caramba

[fallen meteor]

damn rocks has been around

[trim lily]

before i could understand sengoku a bit but here he just feels kind of stupid

[olive sun]

Its always been low but now it's rock bottom

[wide star]

lmao zoro being there always gets me

[trim lily]

like hes actively ignoring the tragedy and corruption for... what reason? he comes off as super callous

[stone terrace]

A bunch of shiny medals and a goat

Emphasis on the goat

[olive sun]

He literally just went "yeah I'm gonna stay in my lane"

[woven talon]

His point is that he can change more from the top

[tranquil blade]

"If top brass ever do strike me as insane, I'd simply turn a blind eye to it"

[trim lily]

but then hes doing the same shit once hes near the top

[tranquil blade]

I mean like come on Sengoku at least have some self-awareness

[olive sun]

And it's like, this isn't even a nobody in the Marines where I can get that. Local infantry are basically cops

[hazy turret]

[woven talon]

What good can you do barking from the bottom of the cliff?

[hazy turret]

Hi zyph

[trim lily]

id understand his view if he actually did something or changed once he reached the top

[formal wagon]

sengoku has glasses

[hazy turret]

Bye zyph

[olive sun]

But Sengoku becomes fleet admiral and still stuck to this philosophy

[woven talon]

Is he? I can’t think of any Ohara like events after he’s in charge

[tranquil blade]

Maybe Sengoku is just a bad guy

[formal wagon]

fishbonen chapter = good chapter

[formal wagon]

nope

[trim lily]

wasnt he responsible for ordering the baby murder

[tranquil blade]

No

[trim lily]

or did i get gaslit into that by the community

[woven talon]

No

[tranquil blade]

That was prolly Kong

[formal wagon]

that was rayleigh

[tranquil blade]

but he was okay with it

[olive sun]

He was in charge for the infanticide after Roger died, wasn't he?

[woven talon]

He wasn’t fleet admiral back then

Just admiral

[tranquil blade]

It's not like the guy had a single thing to say about it though

[trim lily]

maybe if oda shows us some further introspection from him as a fleet admiral later ill change my mind, but as it stands it feels like he got to the top and didnt change a thing

[woven talon]

I think Marineford itself is the worst thing that happened on his watch

[trim lily]

he just wanted to rise up the ranks

[woven talon]

And he resigned

Right after

[frigid gulch]

Sengoku didn’t seem to be fleet admiral for too long

[stone terrace]

Worst thing that we know of

[formal wagon]

😭 millenialmon

who's kong

[stone terrace]

We're only seeing a small portion of what the wg does lol

[woven talon]

Yeah that we know of

[tranquil blade]

Kong is a terrorist tbh the guy is a monster

[formal wagon]

i know of it all

[trim lily]

kong is innocent

[tranquil blade]

Kong is NOT innocent

[woven talon]

Most of the other evil crap that happens in this era is done by cipher pol

[formal wagon]

ur thinking of the other kong that attacked the big plane in that movie

[wet condor]

Kong is doing what most people would be doing

[olive sun]

I wanna know what kongs current job even IS

[woven talon]

So he’s cut out of the loop

[trim lily]

name ONE thing kong has done

checkmate

[wet condor]

He doesn't revel in the shit he has to do but he just does it

[fallen meteor]

!kong

[tropic nova]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-one-piece-is-real-one-piece-live-action-nami-roronoa-zoro-gif-16253456524065335349

[formal wagon]

monkey d kong

[tranquil blade]

I mean if Kong was fleet admiral before Sengoku and he ordered for all those kids to be killed...

[frigid gulch]

Donkey D Kong

[tranquil blade]

Idk man

[formal wagon]

new discord ui makes me so freaking mad i want to punch oda

[trim lily]

did it change

[tranquil blade]

No

[formal wagon]

no more gif button

[trim lily]

oh oops i havent updated desktop yet

[olive sun]

Mobile superiority

[tranquil blade]

I updated today and the gif button is still there

[trim lily]

at least you still have the option to gift others nitro easily

[formal wagon]

holy fuck my life they changed the settings too

[tranquil blade]

Best way to waste money

It's honestly already a waste but gifting it? Hell no

[trim lily]

im so cheesed rocks was the one who oda decided to finally give a white and blue colour palette to

shouldve been lillith

[tranquil blade]

https://tenor.com/view/alien-glorp-desk-slam-cat-green-man-gif-16808037113840525469

[trim lily]

at least he isnt buggy coloured

[tranquil blade]

It's close enough for the theory to live

[olive sun]

Lilith's official colors are like the most boring ones he could have picked

Its amazing

[blazing mantle]

1 hp garp = Sengoku

[tranquil blade]

Lilith would've almost been better with just white hair white clothes and a black jacket as basic as that is

[blazing mantle]

Were the rocks colors real

White and blue

[tranquil blade]

Yes

[trim lily]

yeah from the magazine cover

[blazing mantle]

Do you like it

[blazing mantle]

Yes

I guess people had nothing to worry about

[olive sun]

Only realizing now that that actually is a tattoo instead of a stylized scar

[trim lily]

white hair lillith...

[olive sun]

I miss her....

[blazing mantle]

Slight miss but it’s ok

[stone terrace]

I thought everyone thought that was a tattoo

[stone terrace]

Bro is not harry potter

[trim lily]

unless...

[blazing mantle]

Characters have cool scars

[trim lily]

what if imu struck rocks as a baby

[blazing mantle]

Like look at killer

[olive sun]

Rocks is a HUGE Dr Stone fan

[formal wagon]

test

[blazing mantle]

Imu is baby level?

[olive sun]

Had to get the same crap on his face

[tranquil blade]

Freaky ass reaction to this image Barlaxy

She actually does kinda look crazy here though, I forgot Oda really is weird with proportions

[blazing mantle]

That’s not me bruh

[unique lagoon]

nah scars never looks like this
this is more dragons face or kings

[blazing mantle]

Crazy forehead

[olive sun]

Its just such a silly tattoo

[blazing mantle]

Oda finds women with large foreheads attractive