also-manga

[ashen perch]

WB CAN notice that Xebec is bigger and demonic and still think "wow you're really betraying us to join up with that demon over there"

same with Kaido

[inner agate]

why do u think moria stopped trusting humans

[wet condor]

I don't know if Harald reciprocates

[steel stirrup]

I remember having this same conversation about Rocks and Harald

Time is a flat circle frfr

[wet condor]

We haven't seen any of Harald's other buddies if he's ogt some

[ashen perch]

Harald called Xebec a villain that is doomed to fail and that whole friendship is also meant to be quite odd

[leaden rivet]

Rocks and hassle had a rather strange relationship

[steel stirrup]

Hassle huh

[wet condor]

Hassle?

Hasslehoff?

[steel stirrup]

Hasslehoff

[ornate tartan]

Rich u reading the harald chapters?

[ashen perch]

tbh I would reject the idea of that friendship too

[leaden rivet]

Good night

[frigid gulch]

We’ll see how intense his reaction is

Soon

[ashen perch]

like, it doesnt make sense to me

[steel stirrup]

Do the Hassle 🕺🏾

[wraith mantle]

loki got big shoes to fill

with rocks gone

[ashen perch]

but I am willing to accept it because Elbaf people are big on strength so maybe it was more like respect between them

[steel stirrup]

Which ones in particular

[wraith mantle]

someone needs to carry this story

[ornate tartan]

whichever ones comin up😂

[ashen perch]

the story is gonna get better from here on

the anchor that was holding us down is gone

[steel stirrup]

Im lost in the sauce

Wym

[lofty fern]

We'll be back with Harald for a while before Loki

[wet condor]

anchor

[wraith mantle]

if you say so arsal

[clear hollow]

What was the anchor

[ashen perch]

thank god, I never want to see him again (1166 is gonna have more of him unfortunately but still)

[ornate tartan]

The next couple of chapters gonna be focused on Harald

[wraith mantle]

true

[ornate tartan]

and u despise that guy

[urban lodge]

If the anchor was made of human waste

[steel stirrup]

Oh you're asking if I'll still read?

Of course

Harald a big bitch but hes important

[ornate tartan]

Real

[wraith mantle]

dont slander harald

[ornate tartan]

😭😭😭

[ashen perch]

but after 1166, we will finally move on

[steel stirrup]

Fuck him

[ashen perch]

Harald and Loki

[hasty sable]

Slander Harald

[wraith mantle]

this story has peaked

[lofty fern]

Harald is like Oden. He made some big mistakes but he still did what he could for his nation

[ashen perch]

back to present day soon too

[clear hollow]

Who's the anchor

[steel stirrup]

Give me haki

Give me fire

Enslave my country or I retire

[wraith mantle]

loki is our only hope

[hasty sable]

Oden doomed his nation to twenty years of slavery but yeah

[ornate tartan]

Haralds blunder

[wraith mantle]

yall have so much in common with imu, slandering harald the goat

[ashen perch]

I am excited for Loki and Harald but this is the peak that I am waiting for

[hasty sable]

Imu can be right about some things

[wraith mantle]

the peak has already happened

[wet condor]

Harald did a better job in a lot of ways tbf lol

[wraith mantle]

we are definitely descending into mid territory

[lofty fern]

I want more Dragon

[ashen perch]

the so called peak isnt even like top 100 in OP's peaks

[wet condor]

Harald spent his life actively working for his nation like a head of state should. Oden neglected those responsibilities until it was too late

[wraith mantle]

:speedMeme:

[ashen perch]

top 200 maybe

[clear hollow]

Harald would've called WB right away to whoop Kaido's ass unlike someone else

[hasty sable]

Oden coming back to get a road poneglyph and then immediately leaving whilst ignoring the Akazaya about Orochi is so funny I could cry

[stone terrace]

Idk about that one chief

[hasty sable]

He deserved to be boiled ngl

[steel stirrup]

Oh yea I can't deny that

[clear hollow]

Yessir

[wraith mantle]

what else could harald have done?

[stone terrace]

But harald wouldve cooked kaido ngl

[wraith mantle]

his only option was to join the WG

[lofty fern]

Harald IS from a warrior culture. He wanted a balance peace and yet respecting warrior culture

[stone terrace]

This is a joke right

[steel stirrup]

I love Oden but damn he fumbled

[stone terrace]

[wraith mantle]

not a joke, propose an alternative solution

the rev army wasn't even founded by then

[stone terrace]

Continue building rapport with nations outside the scope of the wg???

[clear hollow]

Thought that was garling in your pfp for a sec

[stone terrace]

Like he was already doing???

[ashen perch]

I mean that was on Toki tbf

[ornate tartan]

Harald gonna really screw these guys over

[steel stirrup]

To combat this point they will point to the few panels of countries refusing him because of the past

[lofty fern]

Harald was prepping Elbaph for a while

[prisma yacht]

We eating peak lore soon

[graceful grove]

exactly. he had it coming

[steel stirrup]

I've played these games before

[frozen aspen]

harald working towards joining the wg in the first place was a nistake

[steel stirrup]

In my opinion yes

[graceful grove]

Harald, Oden, Cobra.... idiots

[clear hollow]

Harald prolly realises WG ain't allat and backs off and then gets DR'ed

[thick mango]

It's a flashback everything is a montage it's reasonable to assume those few panels are representative of a more common trend

[lofty fern]

It was the right idea, he wanted Elbaph to join the rest of the world

[frozen aspen]

bc the moment Imu and the wg realized this they were like " we are gonna take advantage of this"

[wraith mantle]

cook

[steel stirrup]

That too

[stone terrace]

And then we can post the panel of dozens of nations coming to aid elbaf

[lofty fern]

Isolationist ideals don't work eventually

[steel stirrup]

I already know what they gon say bro I've been down this road before

[stone terrace]

I dont want to call it greed

But he was seeking more than he needed

[ashen perch]

if only we were focusing more on that... it didnt need to be a montage

[frozen aspen]

true him working towards interacting with other nstions more helped elbaf when there was famine

[steel stirrup]

I understand Ida put it down and made bro wanna change his life but almost giving his country away is wild work

[lofty fern]

it's more like telling an explorer that they can only explore THIS much and no more

[frozen aspen]

but that doesn't mean he should have rushed the process and try to join the WG

[ashen perch]

all those Harald meetings with the WG, we need to be seeing them from here on atleast

[hasty sable]

Harald: But not all marines are bad. ☹️

[wraith mantle]

i need to know how much harald knows about the WG

how much he knows about the evils of the WG

[lofty fern]

And if Imu wasn't interested in Elbaph, joining the WG is actually pretty profitable

[steel stirrup]

He literally attacked them to stop them from taking slaves

He is aware to an extent

[hasty sable]

Even without Imu he’s basically delivering giants into the arms of the government

[wraith mantle]

was it a slave ship? i forgot

[frozen aspen]

didn't imu say he wants to take advantage of harald

[lofty fern]

He knows, but to him the pros are more than the cons

[frozen aspen]

while mocking rocks

[hasty sable]

All the evils of the government are naked for him to see without a literal sea devil on the throne

[lofty fern]

To Rocks, yeah

[clear hollow]

I lowkey want a What-If side story after the main series ends, discussing about what would have happened if harald never met ida and garling never went to GV and everything went right for Rocks

[steel stirrup]

Iirc no they were just some regular people who were about to be enslaved but its been a sec since I read that chapter

Correct me if I'm wrong

[hasty sable]

It’s sooo obvious the government will exploit the giants even without Imu saying it

We already saw giants joining the Marines

[ashen perch]

we know he fails though

[graceful grove]

Harald tried to sell off his country to fulfill his personal goal

[steel stirrup]

Even Rocks called it out

The first thing they asked him to do was Kill Rocks

That excuse won't work for bro

[lofty fern]

He'd continue being a big brute. Elbaph would have fallen to famine and Imu would have taken it regardless in the aftermath. Harald and Rocks would have never met by the way.

[wet condor]

Well, we're about to find out by the end of this arc

[ashen perch]

Harald clearly ends up going against their plans, youre judging him before seeing it all play out

[rare ivy]

They are taking salary

[steel stirrup]

Lmaoo yep

[wet condor]

SHs have a decent chance of losing

[lofty fern]

That's treated as a good thing

[steel stirrup]

Guilty!

[wraith mantle]

how many months has this flashback been going for

[steel stirrup]

Too bad they're all trash

[wraith mantle]

i think it started in july right?

[prisma yacht]

4

[graceful grove]

would be amazing if Imu fully took over Elbaf and SH had to leave. or the very least Imu takes a good share of Giants with him

[wraith mantle]

i see

[clear hollow]

Now when I think about it, you can't really think of a timeline where everything will go right for Rocks with no severe consequences will happen to either harald or elbaph

[distant vine]

Nah I think Imu will retreat

[lofty fern]

Most nations we're friends with, still join the WG even though they know they have to support slavery and give money to the CDs. I don't know why Harald has to be hated for doing the same thing.

[graceful grove]

that's the obvious outcome. imu can be forced back and his minions can TP

[clear hollow]

Saw a theory about brook's music alongside haki being a solution to Domi Reversi

[graceful grove]

but that just makes final war look too one sided

[lofty fern]

That's like blaming Neptune for wanting to join the WG and having a seat at reverie even though fishmen are enslaved all the time

[prisma yacht]

Isn't harald considered the greatest elbaf king

[steel stirrup]

Music is the key I love it

It can reach parts of the brain that are otherwise unreachable

[graceful grove]

this is the big army Imu always wanted and suddenly all of them will be on Luffy side along with the rest

[steel stirrup]

For what reason is beyond me

But yes

[lofty fern]

Well Rocks also in this version would probably still lose everything because the events that cause him to even be at god valley would have happened differently. The whole event could have happened and he would never know about it

[ashen perch]

Harald isnt an idiot, he was told the same by Xebec already that they want his military strength only and he just believed that no matter what the Celestial Dragons are seeking, his goal is to bring Elbaf into the circle of the world and move on from their violent past where they were the most feared thing on the planet. Thats reasonable. Outside of that, they do fail to attain the military might that they were after, so clearly, Harald is gonna go on and screw things up for them!

[ashen perch]

yeah

[lofty fern]

Yes

[ashen perch]

it was Harald opening himself to the world that saved them from the great disasters that befell them

[steel stirrup]

I liked bro until he did that snake shit

[wet condor]

Some people would say that was a mistake

[ashen perch]

I am sure that was enough to make him the greatest king

[prisma yacht]

I don't see any reason to hate harald

Apart from him going to kill xebec when asked by the gorosei

[wet condor]

And we see how the CDs wind up treating them when they get up there

[steel stirrup]

Long road to recovery this way

Once you show me you're a snake I'm inclined to believe you

[wet condor]

A CD disrespects Neptune and his family by trying to take his daughter lol

And he was about to say "to hell with this"

[wraith mantle]

good point

[ornate tartan]

King Harald will have a good conclusion i’m sure

[lofty fern]

I think Imu will leave but for other reasons

[wraith mantle]

aint nobody slandering npetune for that

[steel stirrup]

Hope so

[prisma yacht]

🤣🤣

[steel stirrup]

I will

[frozen aspen]

well yeah but he trues in the first place bc harald is naive

[clear hollow]

i guess kings before harald were a bunch of savages who pillaged and looted other kingdoms and hence elbaph's reputation degraded to a fierce and cruel nation of giants and the cycle of every elbaph king being a scumbag broke cause of Ida

[prisma yacht]

Fk ass fish

[steel stirrup]

Cause thats just stupid

[wet condor]

I admittedly haven't seen it lol

But I'm sure there are people

[steel stirrup]

If the world ever starts burning I know what side yall will be on lmaooo

These takes are insane

[prisma yacht]

Almost got his daughter molested

Smfh

[lofty fern]

I think that's more of a matter of long-term gains vs short-term hatred. It's basically what Otohime was aiming for

[graceful grove]

Neptune was an idiot for bringing her up there in the first place

what did he expect?

[steel stirrup]

Otomhime tried to be MLK and they killed her like they did MLK

Sometimes mfs need to be punched in the face

[lofty fern]

They were also very dumb. Harald set up the first school Elbaph's ever had

[steel stirrup]

On my soul

[lofty fern]

Even if they were still brutes, Imu could probably just trick them by outsmarting them

[steel stirrup]

You know these CDs are menaces leave your daughter at home please

[lofty fern]

That's why the CDs are all about burning the school and books

[ornate tartan]

that nga Neptune always got his arms crossed😭😭

[wet condor]

lmao

[lofty fern]

Don't need smart brutes

[wet condor]

why is that making me laugh like it is

[steel stirrup]

Thats cause he know he got the heart of a BITCH

[ornate tartan]

😭😭😭😭

[steel stirrup]

Jamon

[lofty fern]

Yeah, that was kinda dumb

[prisma yacht]

Oh what the fuckery was this shit bro 😭

Jamon in every sentence

[steel stirrup]

I dont know-jamon

[ashen perch]

Not necessarily, he heard from Xebec that they just want the giants' military might too but he simply seeks the benefits that come with being a part of the circle of the world. Its what saved his kingdom from all the great disasters that befell Elbaf too. He isnt naive, he even tells Xebec in response that he is the one who isnt understanding what is best for HIS people.

[wet condor]

That and more

[ornate tartan]

his signature pose

[steel stirrup]

Back in Black head ass

[ashen perch]

Imu can think he is naive, but we also know that he fails because of some sort of screw up by Harald

[wet condor]

I forget what charloss said he was gonna do to her

Did he say he was gonna make her his bride?

[steel stirrup]

I dont want to remember

[lofty fern]

BB's taking Shirahoshi by the way. Gotta complete his young women trifecta

[ashen perch]

that might be what proves Imu wrong about Harald

[steel stirrup]

Who's the first two?😭 Pudding and who else

[clear hollow]

Boa ig

Or idk

[prisma yacht]

Bonney

[ashen perch]

Shirahoshi will escape

[prisma yacht]

Boa

[steel stirrup]

That bitch aint young

[ornate tartan]

Hancock is grown

[lofty fern]

he was going to put her in his fish tank with piranhas and he as going to ride her everyday

[steel stirrup]

Thats a grown ass woman

[clear hollow]

Oh yeah i forgot

[wet condor]

See, that's what I thought. I just couldn't remember if he said that about Camie or not

[steel stirrup]

He aint got her and he didn't know she was 12

[wet condor]

Hell he may've said it to both of them

[lofty fern]

He tried with Boa but Rayleigh said "No, we are not doing that crap again!"

[wraith mantle]

now i wonder why sommers thought shamrock was in elbaf to visit harald's grave

[prisma yacht]

Almost had her if not for akainu 😂

Just imagine 😭

[steel stirrup]

He wanted the hoes fruit not the hoe

[lofty fern]

She looked 16

[steel stirrup]

???

[prisma yacht]

Bb did ask bonney to marry him

[ornate tartan]

Bonney wasn’t 12 in that scene rich

she was 10

[lofty fern]

It wasn't like BB asked lol

[ornate tartan]

pre timeskip😂

[prisma yacht]

😭😭

[steel stirrup]

He didnt know how old she was

At all

Thats the point

[wraith mantle]

send bb to the deepest level of impel down

[steel stirrup]

Is it nasty yes

But he didnt know how nasty he was being

[lofty fern]

Does that make it better to assault a woman like that?

[frozen aspen]

I mean in this case I think the negatives clearly outweight the benefits. He was so blinded by all the new possibilities the WG could give him that he neglected the disadvantages and dangers it off

[lofty fern]

What is he? Garling?

[prisma yacht]

and impel down turns into an evil fragment!!

[ornate tartan]

Vander Decken knew

[steel stirrup]

You old enough to talk shit you old enough to get fucked up and these hands are bisexual

[ornate tartan]

now that’s one weird guy

[steel stirrup]

Yea no excuses for him

[lofty fern]

So if she talks crap at 10....

[steel stirrup]

He just need to be executed

[steel stirrup]

She getting a 10 count

[clear hollow]

I know BB didn't know about that but BB assaulting the daughter of the man who saved him n his mother is kinda ironic

[ornate tartan]

lot of things come full circle in One Piece

[steel stirrup]

Luffy beats the shit outta Momo i didnt hear nothing then i dont wanna hear it now

[ornate tartan]

my favorite was the Dragon Shanks Luffy one

[clear hollow]

Yessirr

[ornate tartan]

this flashback

[lofty fern]

It wasn't like he didn't want Boa too

[prisma yacht]

Ah loved the parallels

[steel stirrup]

Vasco and Devon did(🤮)

He said he doesn't care what happens to her as long as he gets her power

[prisma yacht]

Bb just wants to continue his lineage

[lofty fern]

There would be no BB if not for Dragon. He saves them all actually

[ornate tartan]

Is Oda keeping Dragon Fruit ambiguous because it’s very special, or is there a chance he gets it in the next chapter

[steel stirrup]

The first

[ornate tartan]

I cannot bring myself to believe Dragon is a Haki Man

😂

Even rocks shocked me

[ashen perch]

again, did he neglect the dangers though? its clear that he was after the benefits only and we are about to see how things play out when it comes to them seeking Elbaf's military aid, its clear based off Imu's words in the present that he does something that prevents them from attaining their military might after all. We gotta wait and see on that.

[ornate tartan]

for not having a fruit

[steel stirrup]

He probably has strong haki considering his father and his son

[clear hollow]

Even roger tbh

[lofty fern]

You don't think he wouldn't "sample the wares"? Especially since he admitted that he considered her hot?

[ornate tartan]

nah we knew Roger didn’t have a fruit for years now

[steel stirrup]

I'm not going to comment on that

Because idk

[clear hollow]

damn

[ornate tartan]

Kaido said it in Wano remember

[prisma yacht]

Rocks pulling up with that law pose 😂
Blud had us

[steel stirrup]

Us?😭

[urban lodge]

That's just people being stupid, he was counting to 2

[steel stirrup]

He had YOU

[lofty fern]

He'll probably get it in a really sad way. Not just as an afterthought "oh let me just eat this random fruit cause its here" that doesn't sound like Dragon

[prisma yacht]

Was it just me 😂😂

[steel stirrup]

😬

[urban lodge]

He asked 2 questions and had 2 fingers up

[steel stirrup]

Nah it wasnt that's whats crazy

I remember seeing ts

[prisma yacht]

It was hilarious

[ornate tartan]

he was asking 2 questions

[steel stirrup]

"ROCKS HAD LAWS FRUIT!!!"

Amd the nigga is just counting to two

[frozen aspen]

sure we have yet to see what sort of deal he made with the WG but from the looks of it so far we have never seen him go question his decision in the slightest or hesitate. Another thing that makes him look pretty naive is the way he interacts with baby loki. Sorry but you can't tell you saw your todler covered in bruises and immediately believe whatever nonsense your guards try to sell you 😭

[ashen perch]

this isnt a guy who is looking to put his people in danger for the Celestial Dragons that he calls scummy and foolish too, he is going to disagree with the WG there and thats gonna be the big conflict of the upcoming final chapters leading to Harald's death

[clear hollow]

Ask D Questions

[lofty fern]

So considering what happened to Rocks, who of the BB pirates do you think will betray him first?

[steel stirrup]

Kuzan

[urban lodge]

Kuzan

But I hope it's Pizarro

[ornate tartan]

Don’t count Kuzan that’s the easy answer

[prisma yacht]

Doc Q poisons him

[ornate tartan]

try to think of another BB Pirate

that would be interesting

[clear hollow]

Hard to say, all of them are scumbags

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/butcher-billy-butcher-the-boys-vought-homelander-gif-5554274684204295243

[ornate tartan]

I’d say Lafitte which also seems like his most loyal member

but u never know

[ashen perch]

all of them eventually tbh but I think all the Impel Down ones are the most likely to go

[cyan meadow]

all BB did was kill some filthy criminals

[urban lodge]

He bullies poor Pizarro so he should get his revenge

[prisma yacht]

Lafitte is also the weirdest looking well they all are but he is also creepy

[steel stirrup]

They seem to be bought into his plan for the time being

Another parallel

[lofty fern]

Kuzan's the "WB" of the group

[ornate tartan]

Lafitte is the only one who didn’t have his fruit confirmed which was strange to me

if he even has a fruit power

[steel stirrup]

LMAOOO

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-hysterically-gif-23860185

Stop please I can't take anymore

[lofty fern]

I'm betting Caribou...like father like son

[ornate tartan]

All ik about his powers is he can use hypnosis, and he grows wings and can fly

[steel stirrup]

If the chips fall down I'd believe that Burgess would ride for BB before Kuzan does

[ornate tartan]

maybe he’s some kind of bird zoan

[steel stirrup]

Yea Lafitte is the MVP

Without him BB wouldn't have gotten this far

[cyan meadow]

Doc Q df is giving feminization disease

[lofty fern]

That could be a "Oda forgot" thing. He's done that several times. He thinks he said it but then forgets he didn't

[royal orchid]

oh it's back?

https://tenor.com/view/lol-gif-14711459736981594965

it's back

[urban lodge]

Yeah discord was just having another stroke

[lofty fern]

Oh yeah typing is back!

[thick mango]

do yall expect harujdin's desire to be king of the giants is like a sure thing dream? Is oda gonna cop out and just make him and loki co-kings? Or just pretend harujdin never said hes gonna be king of the giants. Or just pay it off make him king and loki does somethign else

[ashen perch]

Harald says that he really wavered and hesitated before making his decision so thats not true. Also eh, thats a bit silly but I guess he just has no reason to think his own guards are lying to him. Thats not the same with the WG though, where he does acknowledge their intent when Xebec mentions it to him, but says he is seeking the benefits of becoming a part of the global world order as a civilized nation no matter how foolish the CDs are.

oh yea its back

all the stupid updates made me think it must have been an update again

[steel stirrup]

@ashen perch

Ignore GLR but this is the scene I was telling you about

[frozen aspen]

either way He made the wrong choice

[lofty fern]

Co-kings. It's what Harald wanted and Hajrudin gets his dream all at the same time

[frozen aspen]

also he should defined question his guards in this instance

[thick mango]

i guess im not sure why i feel like its a cop-out but i kinda do

[autumn island]

Loki is going to turn up like Oars did for Ace for Luffy in the final war

On God

[ashen perch]

ah, that seems to be an artistic choice to me yea, not necessarily something that actually happened

[steel stirrup]

Yea I think its just Icarus

[hasty sable]

I bet Oda forgets Urouge

[lofty fern]

They both show the two sides of Harald's personality

[ashen perch]

its about VP anyways, not Joyboy like I think ppl have been speculating lol

[steel stirrup]

I hope not

[steel stirrup]

Its because its juxtaposed with the title card

[urban lodge]

Vegapunk says he flew too close to the sun, he is the Icarus

[steel stirrup]

Joyboy the First Pirate

[ashen perch]

I bet Oda doesnt forget Urouge at all and he is extremely important

people arent ready

[steel stirrup]

Ik im explaining why others thought this

[royal orchid]

!urucrew

[tropic nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/164971940648321024/631168230958039109/image0.jpg

[ashen perch]

ah, I guess I understand the thought process there but still its about VP I think

[steel stirrup]

I didn't know bro had these many panels

[ashen perch]

(dead serious, no joke here)

[steel stirrup]

I agree

[lofty fern]

We've seen Joyboy, we've seen he has no wings and no flame

[ornate tartan]

Joyboy isn’t a lunarian

[steel stirrup]

Their cope is he had a jacket

[ornate tartan]

he’s either giant or human

maybe just a very tall human

[lofty fern]

I think what happened was the artists wanted to show icarus and didn't know that they weren't going to go with the icarus title

[steel stirrup]

I mean it could still be symbolic i guess

[lofty fern]

It would be that either way

[steel stirrup]

But I feel its Icarus

Another thing is the white wings

[steel stirrup]

They would be black if that was the case

[lofty fern]

Having Joyboy be black would be surprising lol

[steel stirrup]

Only ting I can think of is G5 turning him white but that would imply that i buy this

I meant his wings but that would be cool

Luffy is Latino maybe Joyboy was too

[lofty fern]

All lunarians have brown skin, so hey...

[steel stirrup]

Every Buccaneer so far (unless the WB theory is true) also has heavy melanin

[lofty fern]

We've only met two....

[steel stirrup]

Exactly

[lofty fern]

not a big sample

[steel stirrup]

We've only met one King but we know his people look the same

[ornate tartan]

Kuma and His Dad are the only confirmed buccaneers

Davy Clan is speculation but possible

the Celestial Dragon hinted at it

[lofty fern]

Well, that's because that's literally in the definition of Lunarian. They have dark brown skin. We found that out before we even saw King

[stone terrace]

Exterminating all the dark skin races what did oda mean

[steel stirrup]

I remember everyone thought they were Buccaneers when GV started

[steel stirrup]

😬

[ornate tartan]

because of a translation error

i think

[steel stirrup]

I was thinking it but you said it😭

[scenic dirge]

Every CD family so far are light skinned as well right? The only one that wasn’t were the Nefertari’s potentially and look what happened there hmmm

[steel stirrup]

😭

[scenic dirge]

Oda is problematic

[lofty fern]

that's just an example of them labeling them all together.

[steel stirrup]

What a time to be alive

[lofty fern]

it's hard since the anime changes skin color like candy

[steel stirrup]

Mannn

They just got Nojiko

[sage temple]

The Nefertari's are dark skinned?

[steel stirrup]

No one is safe

[scenic dirge]

I mean

[steel stirrup]

They live in a desert

[scenic dirge]

They’re inspired by Egyptians

[prisma yacht]

It's bcs they live in a desert

[scenic dirge]

So I’d assume so yes

[prisma yacht]

Lol

[steel stirrup]

Lmaoo

[lofty fern]

They can be inspired by a group and still be as light as everyone else in the OP world

[steel stirrup]

I think Nojiko is supposed to be black too but they put an end to ts

[scenic dirge]

Cobra seems fairly dark in tone to me

[lofty fern]

Vivi looks the same color as say Nami

[sage temple]

What if every other CD family also lived in a desert originally

[scenic dirge]

Vivi definitely looks a bit whitewashed tho ye

[steel stirrup]

I know her LA counterpart is African American

[sage temple]

The portrait on Imu's wall looks white asf too

[stone terrace]

Shes indian

[scenic dirge]

He’s talking about Nojiko

Not Vivi

[lofty fern]

The DonQuioxtes are supposed to be from what is basically Italy and look at them 😆

[steel stirrup]

Depends on where they are now and how long they've been there

Its a case of how much sun you get on your area and your children adapting to said conditions.

Everyone is human skin color comes from 1,000s of years of being where the sun shines or where it doesn't

To simplify it

[ornate tartan]

the outrage on this was very loud

was it the same for Lucky Roux?

[scenic dirge]

I mean yea, ultimately ur right tho. Skin tone in this series is kind of arbitrary until it’s an explicit part of their character and physical identity like with Lunarians. Everything else is largely just association with the real world counterparts that Oda has given to some characters.

[ornate tartan]

I don’t remember much about the live action

[steel stirrup]

I mean she lives in a desert climate and her family has lived there for centuries.

The adaptations she would exhibit irl do not match her

She should definitely be Indian

But in the manga she looks like everyone else

[stone terrace]

Royalty would be lighter skinned for sure

But not that much

[lofty fern]

This change was hilarious

[steel stirrup]

Sure they wouldn't spend as much time in the sun they have palaces and shit but she should definitely have a Lil tan there

[steel stirrup]

Bruh

Did Ahiru WRONG

[stone terrace]

Downgrade

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/415399734505635842/1431775565420953661/target_68228b612a6d2264c54938e9b524d2e4.gif

[steel stirrup]

Realized she was gonna be important and white washed her with quickness

[sage temple]

[rose rune]

royalty are cave dwellers confirmed?

[stone terrace]

Funnily enough

Thats closer to what robin should look like than what robin looks like rn

[urban lodge]

Egghead Usopp being whiter than Kizaru

[ornate tartan]

damn I forgot that was her first design😂

[stone terrace]

[steel stirrup]

LMAOOO

[stone terrace]

I would spend most of my time in my big fancy castle too tbf

[steel stirrup]

Talm bout "Luffy got Bleached!"

Bruh🪞

[lofty fern]

Originally they gave her a cool arm, great for camouflage, but no she's a girl so she gets hot pink

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/marie-antoinette-gif-18018557

[steel stirrup]

Madness

[steel stirrup]

Those hats are insane

[steel stirrup]

Have they never used a fan before wtf are they doing

[stone terrace]

Victorian london was the place to be

[rose rune]

they're shaking in disgust

[steel stirrup]

Jack the Ripper would like to know your location

[lofty fern]

It gets even more crazy when you realize that those dresses are in like 10 pieces that you have to assemble

[rose rune]

on the topic of peasants, I just ordered a bunch of computer parts

gonna build meself a new computer

[steel stirrup]

'Disease' would like to know your location

[lofty fern]

That's 1700s I believe, so a bit earlier

[steel stirrup]

Gotta exhale all the air in your lungs just to get the corset on

[stone terrace]

They were dripped out that early?

[lofty fern]

And I'm pretty sure that's France, isn't that from the Marie Antoinette movie?

[steel stirrup]

Drip has been around since the Ice Age fym

[lofty fern]

lol, actually fashion toned down considerably by the time you got to victorian

[steel stirrup]

Yea the hats were definitely not as bombastic

They had to run from Jack the Ripper and shit

[rose rune]

their clothes were dripping

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/ba-dum-tsss-drum-band-gif-7320811

[lofty fern]

Corsets get a bad rap for how people used them later on, but if you use them right, they actually are no worse than say a regular bra

[steel stirrup]

Ahh I see

[stone terrace]

Now im wondering why hats fell out of style

Down the rabbit hole i go

[rose rune]

hipsters

[lofty fern]

Fashion historians will actually get on you if you talk bad about the corset lol

[steel stirrup]

Are they the exact same as back then?

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/man-hat-flirt-gif-16364670903687153532

[steel stirrup]

One of Roger's crew had Batwings

[stone terrace]

I have a fedora actually but i never wear it

It just screams tryhard

[rose rune]

I only have those tourist hats

[steel stirrup]

Like a ball cap?

Or something else

[lofty fern]

They were made of different materials over the centuries. But they make a point, if the corsets were as bad as people think they are today, they'd never have lasted as long as they did. Every woman wore a corset from the poorest maid to the queen. it was just part of your dress. You can imagine if you're a scullary maid, you're not tying that thing so you can't breathe lol

[rose rune]

like these shits with the name of wherever you are

[steel stirrup]

Oh I call these bucket hats

The drip is usually immaculate

[rose rune]

oh yeah, bucket hat! I had a brain fart

[steel stirrup]

PotC had me thinking women were passing out left and right ngl

[lofty fern]

You can see even videos of women who still wear them all the time. It a very interesting rabbit hole to go down that I may or may not have fallen down a couple years ago lol

[steel stirrup]

Yea my ex had one and she never complained about it but like you said she wasnt tying it to hell

[rose rune]

lol, google is completely wrong. it's a specific way of fainting, it has nothing to do with a roar

[ashen rose]

Do the dåne

[rose rune]

it's what we call it when you faint from being shocked or too stimulated (like girls watching a boy band at a concert)

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/avatar-the-last-airbender-faint-gif-11528558

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/girl-girl-faint-faint-dramatic-faint-fainting-gif-1724244372035437535

[sage temple]

[ashen rose]

Isn't it like, nightime already there?

[sage temple]

No it's 2 pm

[ashen rose]

Also progress on that Loki drawing I made 1 year ago

[ashen rose]

I'm 2 hours ahead in the future

Ask me anything

[sage temple]

Are there spoilers yet

[ashen rose]

Unfortunately no

[maiden charm]

There's two of them

[ashen rose]

Wait you see spoilers?

[sage temple]

[ashen rose]

Another one yipee

[rose rune]

it's 8pm

[stone terrace]

Drawing for a year but still not done bro thinks hes michelangelo 😭

[ashen rose]

The creative block is something else

[steel stirrup]

1pm here

[rose rune]

what. I thought this was a picture of David

[hot cairn]

chapter week sooooon

[ashen rose]

What's the color of his tattoo btw?

[steel stirrup]

Dm them i dont see shit

[steel stirrup]

🔥🔥🔥

[grand flower]

Spain

[ashen rose]

Thanks

[rose rune]

np

[steel stirrup]

What's that like red orange?

[rose rune]

yeah

[ashen rose]

More like orange brown

[sage temple]

Red orange?

Reminds me of hell

Hell(fire)

[maiden charm]

Wish axes were used more

[ashen rose]

Gaban

[steel stirrup]

Try Vinland Saga

[ornate hatch]

Pink hair confirmed?

[maiden charm]

I'm talking about outside of Elbafs residents

[ashen rose]

Yeah he has pink hair

[sage temple]

🤷‍♂️

[ashen rose]

Axe hand morgan

[steel stirrup]

I was hoping for purple

[maiden charm]

Already have 👍🏽

[urban lodge]

Oda hasn't decided yet

[steel stirrup]

Seems like purple with some pink highlights here and there in this pic

[ornate hatch]

Pink will always be badass, look at doffy

[urban lodge]

Next time it will be neon green

[maiden charm]

Ahh yes , the beginning of the series. Lots of use since then

[sage temple]

Yeah heres a bigger version

[steel stirrup]

Bro got long flowing locks

[sage temple]

Crazy length

I wonder if he's ever cut his hair

[ashen rose]

He's been tied for 6 years

[steel stirrup]

I guess he followers would do that for him lmao

[sage temple]

With that quality he must make the humans down there give his hair a detox

[ashen rose]

I'm surprised his hair is not longer

[hearty shore]

dude with one bang of his hair alone u can make 1000 wigs

[steel stirrup]

I sometimes forget that Loki lowkey (haha) has a small army

[ashen rose]

[rose rune]

his animal friends eat it from time to time

[ashen rose]

He's technically still a pirate

[ashen rose]

Nutrition

[steel stirrup]

Those could be any crew mates he may have made

[sage temple]

I think he just lets it grow

[stone terrace]

Bro had doffy hair as a baby

[sage temple]

I fw the baby buzz at the start

[steel stirrup]

Loki killed the horse and the regent

[ashen rose]

"Why would Loki do this?"

[steel stirrup]

Bro got on a blouse in the 2nd Pic lmaoooo

[sage temple]

Idk if the Horse was killed by him but the regent most definitely

[prisma yacht]

Yeah lol

[ashen rose]

Nah the horse died of natural causes

[rose rune]

he should have kept this cut. he sort of looks like an asshole here

[prisma yacht]

Looks cute on him

[ashen rose]

Loki just got the blame for no reason

[steel stirrup]

Regent deserved it

[ashen rose]

Everyone except his father deserved it

[hearty shore]

i mean... he is an asshole

[sage temple]

Yeah definitely

[steel stirrup]

I wonder if Toei is gonna give Loki's backstory a little more filler

[ashen rose]

No wonder he grew up violent asf

[sage temple]

Last time I theorized on why Loki killed the regent I got warned so ig I'll leave it alone

[ornate tartan]

Loki fans i’m willing to bet

[ashen rose]

100% they give special treatment to aura farmers

[steel stirrup]

Like this scene in particular I wonder if they'll make it longer a bit

I would like that

[sage temple]

But Loki has only killed 1 person his whole life

[ornate tartan]

100% Loki will be in this upcoming chapter

[stone terrace]

LOL

What could you have possibly said

[ashen rose]

He's still an asshole to almost everyone

[steel stirrup]

I know Toei won't do it because they want us to like Loki but atp nothing can make me hate bro so just go ahead and show him killing the Regent bro deserved it anyway

[sage temple]

That the regent was being a weirdo with him because of the hearts here

[stone terrace]

Oh

[ashen rose]

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-gif-10374658

[steel stirrup]

Damn those hearts made my stomach turn and my heart sink

[sage temple]

True

[steel stirrup]

Wtf

Good Lord

Please God no

[sage temple]

Yeah this is what I felt too

[tranquil blade]

Oh

[steel stirrup]

BRUH

[tranquil blade]

I see now

[sage temple]

But they thought I was joking about it making it like an edgy joke so I got warned

[steel stirrup]

HOW DID I MISS THIS😭😭

[ashen rose]

I HOPE it was just a one time occurrence and nothing actually serious happened to him

[sage temple]

Its fine now tho

[tranquil blade]

Yeah I didn't even pick up on that

[sage temple]

Yeah me too I hope the anime doesn't make it worse

[steel stirrup]

Loki didn't deserve this bro wtf Oda 😭😭

[ornate tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/staring-meme-bald-guy-staring-gif-16652283412331227052

[sage temple]

I wouldn't enjoy that at all from Toei

[steel stirrup]

Im still shaking Holy shit

How did i miss that

[sage temple]

It's a pretty small panel

And like a more important discussion was happening so it's easy to overlook

[tranquil blade]

Well whether that is or isn't what it's implying I'm glad the guy died

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/prempdr-fc-mobile-fifa-gif-16778760554072111618

Literally me rn

Wtf

😭😭

[sage temple]

Yeah me too

[ashen rose]

Being a weirdo for what is, in giant years, a 15 year old of all things

[steel stirrup]

Yea either way I'm glad he's gone which takes a lot for me to seriously say with no agenda or joke attached to it

Damn bruh

I need to laugh at something

Lemme go to #manga

[sage temple]

Loki was only a few months old when he got the regent

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/no-no-no-no-no-wait-wait-wait-wait-wait-gif-3746287728568117387

[ashen rose]

On a positive note, this just makes his whole relationship with lola more sweet

Until they broke off

[sage temple]

Yea probably

[steel stirrup]

I hope we see that if not this flashback sometime before Elbaf ends

Only relationship I'm interested in

[ashen rose]

Please oda I want to cry of a broken heart

[steel stirrup]

I feel like they really liked each other but Big Mom ruined it

[sage temple]

Yeah I hope that was the reason

Big Mom has lowk ruined Loki's life

😭

[steel stirrup]

From what I remember Lola didnt say she didnt like him it was just because of Big Mom wanting her to do it

[ashen rose]

She sped things up too much

[steel stirrup]

Yea

[urban lodge]

Lola would have rejected anyone

[sage temple]

And Chiffon tried to replace her

[urban lodge]

She just wanted to choose for herself

[steel stirrup]

Yea

[cyan meadow]

And I almost thought Loki would be a morally grey character 💔

[ashen rose]

Isn't he? Kinda?

[sage temple]

What does morally grey character mean

[leaden rivet]

You actually got warned for that lol?

[cyan meadow]

nope definitely not

[steel stirrup]

Madness

[steel stirrup]

Not trying to be an asshole but not trying to be a hero either

[sage temple]

It was right after the chapter dropped and I guess I worded it in a way that was seen as a joke but they unwarned me after I asked

[ashen rose]

He's misunderstood and broken, but he's no hero and he's definitely no true villain

[steel stirrup]

Loki is more anti-hero imo

[sage temple]

Ohh ok

[steel stirrup]

Not a villain but definitely not a hero either

[ashen rose]

That'll change once he fights IMU

[sage temple]

I think we'll see his morals more at sea

[ashen rose]

Imagine him becoming a king

[tranquil blade]

When I think of morally grey I think of Marineford Crocodile

[cyan meadow]

who is neither outright good nor evil

[sage temple]

If we get to that

[sage temple]

Yeah I think he's prolly that

[steel stirrup]

I would say the only all good character so far is Coby

[royal orchid]

Sengoku slander on my for you page, I've finally done it

[ashen rose]

Luffy?

[cyan meadow]

"evil monarch who's actually just misunderstood and took all the blame himself" 💔✌️

[tranquil blade]

Luffy does still steal sometimes

[cyan meadow]

yeah definitely he's morally grey

[steel stirrup]

Luffy said himself he isn't a hero

And everyone that Luffy helps is usually for selfish reasons they just end up working out in the end for everyone

[frozen aspen]

Alvida victim

[steel stirrup]

Either you gotta feed him or promise him a strong combatant to fight otherwise he doesnt give a fuck

[ashen rose]

Ironic because he's more heroic than most other people, then uhh, fuck I can't think of anyone that's 100% morally good other than coby

[ornate tartan]

it’s crazy to think Alvida would still be spankin that mf😭😭

[frozen aspen]

I have proof

see she neg diffs him

[ashen rose]

Same fucking weapon too

[steel stirrup]

When it comes to major characters yea Coby is the only one I can think of who is 100% morally good

[cyan meadow]

We got a lot of Mary Sue type characters in OP. We barely have any morally grey characters, and even if there are some, the story doesn’t want to portray them like that, for example Garp and Vegapunk.

[royal orchid]

you call Luffy a hero and next thing you know

19:22:31 PM, Luffy ability activation recorded:
-Steal solid food from every fridge, pantry and storage container in approximately 500km radius, confirmed

[ashen rose]

Rocks

[steel stirrup]

Bro said it like he's a SCP😭😭

[frozen aspen]

I saw this post on twt and this was the first comment
https://twitter.com/uglykgb/status/1989742988436889607

skiib*ll (@uglykgb)

@DailyQueerPiece how do i explain this to them

X · Nov 15, 2025, 5:11 PM

[rose rune]

I felt like drawing him too, but I grew tired and just kinda stopped here

[ashen rose]

SCP is peak fiction

[steel stirrup]

Peak

[ashen rose]

Nice

[steel stirrup]

LMAOOOOO

[ashen rose]

His hair is a lot longer tho

[royal orchid]

-# now give him a puppy face

[steel stirrup]

😭😭

[ashen rose]

Wolfy face

[rose rune]

probably is

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-star-wars-emperor-palpatine-palpatine-gif-799657800635657398

[sage temple]

Thank you

[rose rune]

my only reference was kinda shit, and it didn't show the beard, so I kinda forgot he had it

[royal orchid]

chainsaw man reference but no chainsaw man mutual servers are on

https://tenor.com/view/speechless-smoking-man-old-man-smoking-old-guy-smoking-old-man-cigarette-gif-16836230630449212567

[royal orchid]

homework folder looking ass

[steel stirrup]

Yea I got that too but if I reference how i know it'd be spoiler

[sage temple]

[ashen rose]

One day I'll learn how to draw this fuckass tattoos of his

Now for the rest of the bg

[steel stirrup]

Aye nice

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/muppets-muppet-show-kermit-the-frog-kermit-hook-gif-26475607

[ashen rose]

Drawing on paper is so difficult and so nice at the same time

[keen quiver]

I live

Again

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/muppets-muppet-show-theater-theatre-get-off-the-stage-gif-23756594

[ashen rose]

If I make a mistake while coloring I might as well give up

[keen quiver]

Temu as Kermit

[steel stirrup]

Hey sis

[royal orchid]

I say there's no csm discord server mutuals on the chat and lisa gets summoned somehow

[vale heath]

That man sure do be a chainsaw

[royal orchid]

guess it works

[vale heath]

Living up to all my expectations

[frozen aspen]

heard the csm server is fucking ass

[keen quiver]

But yeah what is up we are chilling

[steel stirrup]

LMAOOO

[royal orchid]

there's a million channels and I only ever touched one to ask what's the best website to read it

I don't even have embedding there yet

[steel stirrup]

Just arguing like usual

[sage temple]

Maybe up the red

[frozen aspen]

what are we arguing about

[keen quiver]

This place is the ultimate bait center

[ashen rose]

If I mix colors it ends up looking like shit, it's stuck this way now

[royal orchid]

a lot of masters at baiting here

[keen quiver]

Socrates and his clone talking

[ashen rose]

Loki

[keen quiver]

Meek lurking

[ashen rose]

Clone??

:(

[sage temple]

God forbid I socialize

[frozen aspen]

Loki next chapter

[ashen rose]

Only oda will tell

[royal orchid]

you even joined the server a month after him

[sage temple]

I really hope Loki gets some focus next chap

[sage temple]

1166 Imu theories will be dead

[ashen rose]

Wow, didn't know he was here for so little time

[gloomy tree]

Loki maybe at the en dof the chapter

[clear hollow]

Bumgoku

[glass plume]

cool

[keen quiver]

Next chap has a good chance to just be big news Morgan yapping

[clear hollow]

I still need a bit of 2-3 chapters ehich explains what happens to rock pirates after they each went their own paths and how rocks death changed roger's outlook and how did harald mess up

[keen quiver]

Or the narrator

[frozen aspen]

this is what rocks did to sengoku actually which is why he didn't show up to GV

[glass plume]

dream chapter

[grand flower]

@hot cairn finished writing and recording the Abyss video. Now I nap

Then I edit

[steel stirrup]

LMAOOO

[frozen aspen]

lets share more agenda memesI feel like making fun everyone today

[gloomy tree]

maybe 1 chapter with some reactions, thats about it

[royal orchid]

a nice closing chapter to wrap up GV and Rocks Pirates is in sight surely

with Harald at the end hearing about it

[keen quiver]

"I heard a report about this one time but I just couldn't believe it...."

[steel stirrup]

Other than Rocks' last words i think we're pretty much done here

[steel stirrup]

"Oh?"

haki burst

[keen quiver]

He felt that all the way from wherever he was calling

Sengoku was wondering what was going on

[ornate tartan]

oda is gonna start moving fast

[sage temple]

Fast enough for Loki vs Shanks

[ashen perch]

start?

[tranquil blade]

Oda will move even faster

[steel stirrup]

Oda will go FTL

[thick mango]

if its anything like shanks vs kid shanks vs loki should only take like 3 panels

[urban lodge]

I just know he's gonna speedrun the shit out of the Loki part of the flashback

[steel stirrup]

I hope not

But we have been here for a few months

[ashen perch]

we've been very fast already, hopefully we slow down but I dont have high expectations unfortunately

[thick mango]

nah gas gas gas, lets speed it up

[ashen perch]

3-4 chapters... if we keep going very fast

[tranquil blade]

Well if Oda was immortal maybe

[clear hollow]

i hope Loki vs Shanks is not a victim of Offscreen Offscreen No Mi or the Single Panel No Mi

[steel stirrup]

I would like to see it too but I doubt it

[tranquil blade]

but he cant be around forever, he has to finish this in a reasonable amount of time

[sage temple]

Single panel isn't even that bad

[ashen perch]

well it will not even be shown I think, we're ending this at Harald's death

[sage temple]

All I need is a clash Oda

[gloomy tree]

really depends on if Oda wants to reveal some of Shanks and Lokis moves or not

and currently i would lean to not

[steel stirrup]

Welp

Its over

Lets go home

[sage temple]

What if Oda shows the aftermath like Shiki vs Garp and Sengoku

[steel stirrup]

He ain't bouta show us Shanks anytime soon imo

[royal orchid]

so Ms Goldenweek supplies Mihawk's black paint, Shanks' red hair dye and Sengoku's yellow body paint

we got it

[frozen aspen]

last chapter next week

[gloomy tree]

Shanks just wifi haki'd Loki

[vale heath]

Gaming

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-yeah-high-kick-take-down-fight-gif-14272509

[frozen aspen]

blonde shanks is cursed but I kinda like it

[ashen perch]

we're not even getting a clash, like I said, this ends at Harald's death

[frozen aspen]

looks funny

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/mom-will-smith-gif-27611677

[tranquil blade]

Looks a little too similar to Sanji

[steel stirrup]

Chrissy them is fighting words

[ruby moat]

I was thinking he’d whip out the move roger just used against rocks in the flashback

[royal orchid]

blonde shanks closeup

[vale heath]

What about blue hair shanks

[steel stirrup]

Eww

[steel stirrup]

His lost some neck width

[tranquil blade]

Indigo-haired Shanks

[hot cairn]

wait what happened to the Big Mom and Kaido video

[royal orchid]

blue hair pirates 😭

[sage temple]

The 3rd twin

[tranquil blade]

Honestly Shanks loses all his aura without red hair

[rose rune]

blanks

[steel stirrup]

Lmaooo

[ornate tartan]

In 2 weeks minimum my guy😁

[frigid gulch]

Blonde Shanks is cursed

[ornate tartan]

no fight though

[frozen aspen]

what shanks would look like if oda designed him today

[thick mango]

vegapunk is pretty much peak character design imo

[clear hollow]

do we always have a break after 2 consecutive chapters?

[thick mango]

we'll never have a character as well designed as vegapunk again

[frozen aspen]

3*

[fossil nimbus]

Imagine a toddler colouring shanks, that's what he would look like

[steel stirrup]

Thats what im talking bout he aint bouta show us any of Shanks moves any time soon I believe

[clear hollow]

Oh alright

[vale heath]

It’s getting more frequently so
But not “usually”

[fossil nimbus]

Loki?

[thick mango]

eh hes fine. a little uncreative and hype lordy for my taste

[royal orchid]

we usually have a break

[steel stirrup]

Loki's design is great imo

[ornate tartan]

don’t count on it being 3 straight chapters again

cause of the color spread and cover

[steel stirrup]

I like Rocks' design too

[ornate tartan]

maybe it’s 2 this time

[royal orchid]

we don't know what the cover is about right

so I can hopium rocks

[ashen rose]

They're kinda the same

[steel stirrup]

Bruh I'm hoping

Praying

[ashen rose]

There are some differences

[steel stirrup]

I hope they reveal his color scheme

[ashen rose]

Pink

[steel stirrup]

No Rocks i mean

His hair

[ashen rose]

Pink

[steel stirrup]

LMAOOO

[wraith river]

god please no

[royal orchid]

blue and pink

[ashen rose]

Nah piss yellow

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/blacrswan-gif-9159067970533984416

[tranquil blade]

Rocks is gonna have mint green and dark indigo hair

[steel stirrup]

That would be cool with me

[clear hollow]

Black n White hair suits Rocks more than anything imo

[steel stirrup]

The more flamboyant the better

[ashen rose]

The gender reveal cut

[tranquil blade]

Worst combination I could come up with

[wraith river]

silver/blue

[steel stirrup]

Im hoping for silver

[ashen rose]

Honestly I hope it just has black and white hair

[royal orchid]

I saw that, but it's also the final chapter for Rocks plus he's still sort of related?

[ashen rose]

And his drip is all black

[steel stirrup]

I would love black and grey

[ashen rose]

Maybe his cape can be some other color like red or green

[frigid gulch]

Surely this won’t be another SHs colourspread

[ornate tartan]

the last 13 color spreads were the strawhats
I can already see Oda getting crucified for something obvious😂

He will reveal Rocks color scheme on the next Volume cover Imo

[frigid gulch]

[tranquil blade]

[wraith river]

but it feels like harolds hair is black or sum

[gloomy tree]

if there is blue in the hair some people will be very annoying

[tranquil blade]

I hope there is

[azure spindle]

Rocks Roger garp and old gen color spread 🔥

[ashen rose]

Something something buggy

[steel stirrup]

[glass plume]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-buggy-impel-down-sad-clown-gif-11105591

[frigid gulch]

Has Oda ever done a jump cover without Luffy

[runic dock]

https://tenor.com/view/sorry-bro-hand-on-shoulder-gif-11963500747147243380

[tranquil blade]

Idk probably not

[frigid gulch]

I was thinking he could do it there but Luffy is basically the mascot there

[digital spear]

Sengoku eats fast?

[ashen perch]

dont think so

[steel stirrup]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/164971940648321024/1433764359502303242/d.gif

[gloomy tree]

i mean the jump cover will be Luffy most likely, but the coverspread i guess we will see

[ashen rose]

By the gods, he looks like a batman villain

[clear hollow]

which series is this from

[frigid gulch]

For now

[runic dock]

Naruto

[frigid gulch]

I just expect it to be SHs both

[steel stirrup]

LMAOOO

[ashen rose]

Dragon ball

[ashen perch]

Color Spread will be about the SHs too, those non SH color spreads are ultra rare

[tranquil blade]

Hunterxhunter I think

[steel stirrup]

Red Blooded 11

[ashen perch]

last color spread was due to Elbaf's immense popularity too, still a SH color spread

[gloomy tree]

maybe it will be an Elbaph player spread

[wraith river]

senguko flash back

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-luffy-zoro-sanji-gif-25784893

[urban lodge]

There'll be a new one?

[runic dock]

Yeah

[clear hollow]

😭

[urban lodge]

I thought that was an old tweet

[steel stirrup]

Its called Red Blooded Eleven

[frigid gulch]

This coming week ye

[urban lodge]

Cool

[ashen perch]

really it doesnt matter, Elbaf's been immensely popular way before the flashback lol

[clear hollow]

Thanks

[grand flower]

I wanted to do this one first

[digital spear]

when exactly and how was that relevant to his devilfruiiz

[grand flower]

Had a bunch of epiphanies

[runic dock]

Went to a con recently and saw a girl dressed as Elbaf Nami

[ashen perch]

well I meant in Japan tbf but yea worldwide its been super loved too yea

[runic dock]

When vp was saying his message

[steel stirrup]

That sounds cute

[digital spear]

Went to a con and met Earl

[runic dock]

She had the arm tattoo and everything good cosplay

[royal orchid]

my condolences

[hot cairn]

fair enough

[runic dock]

No pictures please

[tranquil blade]

Went to a con and met YC

[steel stirrup]

Wtf did she get the pieces to pull that off

[golden valley]

The Blackbeard mentioning Haki during Jaya translation trending on twitter is really surprising cuz of what should be common information is lost in a complete mistranslation by Viz

[digital spear]

I dont get the devilfruit part

[steel stirrup]

Putting together Nami's Elbaf fit can't be easy

[runic dock]

Me neither tbh

[frigid gulch]

Old Viz magic

[left dove]

oda just having fun

[frigid gulch]

[ashen perch]

well its not surprising to me, most of the fandom is filled with newer fans who have usually not heard of things like that

[steel stirrup]

I mean for cosplayers finding those pieces to put that together cant be very easy or inexpensive

[ashen perch]

if they have, its through some wacky tiktokker who isnt even fully aware themselves

[left dove]

oh mb

LOL

[ashen perch]

thats why everything Sandman says is met with "how does he know that?" replies, when everything he says is public info that newer fans have just never heard of before lmao

[steel stirrup]

Just realized BB can gauge the Haki of others

[royal orchid]

I didn't touch the community until I got caught up so I had no idea until today really

[steel stirrup]

He said Luffy had a lot of Haki and later in Impel Down he said his Haki has grown since Jaya

[golden valley]

Im really trashing on Viz here cuz that’s really something notable to forever be left as a mistranslation on Viz part lol

[ashen perch]

the anime also fucked up on that translation

[steel stirrup]

Another BB upscale

[royal orchid]

anime did fuck it up

[ashen perch]

well not the anime I mean

Crunchyroll

[golden valley]

Did they? Damn.

Oh

Usually the anime does the translations justice from what Ive seen

[ashen perch]

yeah, thats THE translation people watch the show through, so the mistranslation being there was the worst part lol

[grand flower]

no one translated it right

[steel stirrup]

He says his "Haki" grew

[clear hollow]

He lowk sometimes gets too specific about oda's private life tho which is kinda sus, like he knows about the interior of his house + the length of oda's TV

[grand flower]

in the official it wasn't Haki either

[grand flower]

Oda has released that info

[steel stirrup]

I don't have WSJ rn what did it say

[ashen perch]

still all public

[clear hollow]

Oh alright

[runic dock]

You can find that from certain Japanese tv episodes

[tough igloo]

funny how the official said the opposite of what Oda actually said lol

[ashen perch]

there was a whole documentary about Oda's wacky studio

[fossil nimbus]

Imagine if this is it

[steel stirrup]

About BB?

[frigid gulch]

Idk if I can blame them for translating it as “ambition” or whatever at that time. We just know now what he actually meant

Still

[fossil nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/kuzan-one-piece-anime-ice-cold-gif-17651727

[ashen perch]

they didnt translate it period lol

[frigid gulch]

They blew the line

[ashen perch]

they ignored the word

[steel stirrup]

What's the right translation

Haki or ambition

[golden valley]

I forgot how Haki is translated

[runic dock]

Translation teams should talk to Japanese teams before sending stuff out but that probably bogs down the process

[ashen perch]

and yes you can blame them

[frigid gulch]

Haki is ambition

[steel stirrup]

Yea ik

[ashen perch]

because Oda highlights it as he does every significant term, in the original Japanese text

they just chose to ignore the word

[steel stirrup]

Ambition, willpower allat

Determination

[frigid gulch]

Ideally yea but realistically how often do they do that

[steel stirrup]

Allat good shit

But what is the correct translation

[formal wagon]

haki talkie

[tough igloo]

yeah with how Viz basically made it seem like Teach thought Luffy wasn’t even worth the 30 million bounty whereas he actually thought 30 million was too low for Luffy due to his haki

[runic dock]

Probably not often since they’re always on time crunches

[frigid gulch]

Ignoring it is completely different to translating it as “ambition” which technically isn’t even incorrect

The bigger issue is them translating it in a way that downplays Luffy

[steel stirrup]

Oh that yea i know they messed up that part but did BB say his "haki" or his "ambition" or something else

[runic dock]

They just didn’t have Oda telling them personally “oh yeah ambition means my own special word here, haki”