also-manga

[formal wagon]

i decided to

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/curb-your-enthusiasm-larry-david-confused-unsure-undecided-gif-3294343

[tranquil blade]

Okay

[stable dock]

Yeah but agenda piece being the only thing keeping you invested in a story for 4-5-6 years is just brainrot

[sage temple]

4 5 6 what?

[formal wagon]

sometimes you have to make a desicion and you have to stick to it

[stable dock]

Im enjoying the story and Agenda Piece memes are a bonus

[formal wagon]

six seven

[tranquil blade]

7

https://tenor.com/view/67-6-7-six-seven-sixty-seven-scp-gif-3295527985440468649

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/sixseven-six-seven-six-seve-67-gif-14143337669032958349

[formal wagon]

six seven

[sage temple]

six seven

[digital spear]

Origin for why he tried to kill himself + Luffy/Shanks relationship to Rocks and God Valley portion, its very Kaido coded

[sage temple]

Hm I've never looked at it like that before

[digital spear]

Why they want to be warriors

[stable dock]

Piratefolk just shit on everything Oda does for years but they still read every week. It's so toxic lol

[digital spear]

Why theyre so tough

[sage temple]

Idk I don't think I care much of the story if not the aura and hype moments

Those things are a lifesaver

[tranquil blade]

The thing is that Kaido didn't even get his ideology from Rocks which is interesting, he had it before because the second he joins the crew he's questioning why Rocks isn't forcing Harald to submit

[stable dock]

Aura and hype on top of an already great story is the best combo.

Its why One Piece is goated

[dense haven]

it just takes like 2 min to read a chapter it's not that much work

[sage temple]

Yeah def

[dense haven]

shitting on oda is fun

[stable dock]

Yeah but they read and then immediately shit on it all week and then repeat

[hasty sable]

Kaido born a monster on Elbaf
Wants to die because he doesn’t belong
Rocks plants the idea of violence and finding meaning in fighting against the world in his mind which gives him hope
Xebec betrays Kaido/is betrayed himself in God Valley
Kaido crashes out and rampages across the New World
Captured and experimented on by Vegapunk
Stopped by Roger who defeats him and reminds him of Rocks and tells him about the Dawn
Kaido takes the worst possible lesson from this and occupies Wano to act as a gatekeeper and wait for Joyboy to return by killing him or otherwise building up an army to destroy the world himself

[digital spear]

I like to shit on Oda and to shit on shitters who shit on Oda

Bars?

[digital spear]

Maybe the idea is that Loki is a Kaido where Luffy is not too late at getting to him

[stable dock]

It's just crazy to me that people will actively dislike something yet continue reading it religously for years. It's so unhealthy.

[dense haven]

kaido betrayed bm before rocks was turned I don't think he cares much about loyalty

[tranquil blade]

Kaido didnt even get betrayed

He was the guy betraying people

[dense haven]

none them care about loyalty that's the whole point of her rocks pirates and their demise

[tranquil blade]

Whitebeard was mildly loyal until he got sent through a mountain

[sage temple]

Loki is just this backstory but at least 5x better

[dense haven]

kaidobros gotta stop trying to scrape the barrel for some semblance of kaidos character

[hasty sable]

Yeah, that’s the idea

Loki is what I wanted Kaido to be

[dense haven]

just accept he's mid

[sage temple]

😭

[tranquil blade]

Kaido has a character he's just not what people wanted out of him

[honest garden]

Kaido is cool, all it takes

[sage temple]

Oh I see now

[hasty sable]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-luffy-vs-kaido-luffy-v-kaido-wano-wano-kuni-gif-12829637601005251637

[sage temple]

Yeah Loki in some ways is just Kaido but if Oda put Kaido in a testing tube and refined the character every day since his introduction

[hasty sable]

Yeah

Loki feels like a Kaido take two

[dense haven]

speaking of which rocks is what wanted roger to be

I feel kinda betrayed

[prisma idol]

Oda has been working on Kaido chara ter type for 3 characters now if you are saying Loki is like Kaido

[sage temple]

Yeah sometimes I see the resemblance

[digital spear]

KAIDO was the BLUEPRINTS for LOKI?

[prisma idol]

Starting with Bullet -> Kaido -> Loki

[hasty sable]

Bullet as well

[stable dock]

I like Kaido, he's just a badass super strong villain who is all about violence/battle. It's not complex and doesn't really have to be. He's not a Doffy/Crocodile mastermind type villain.

[digital spear]

Bullet can def be one for Kaido I think Oda likes to do that in movies

Testrun his future arcs

[trim lily]

wait was stampede pre wano

[hasty sable]

Kaido is just a strong asshole which is okay depending on who you ask. Personally I think he could have been more than that though.

[trim lily]

i thought it was in the middle of it

[digital spear]

During

[prisma idol]

It was before Kaido got enough Character i would say

[digital spear]

Before act 3 tho

[trim lily]

ah

[prisma idol]

Otherwise Kaido and Bullet were about the same when Stampede released

[hasty sable]

Kaido has interesting aspects of his character like how he’s waiting to die

[trim lily]

yeah before that we just knew kaido was suicidal(?) and loved strength

[hasty sable]

Stuff like that is cool

[digital spear]

Bullet was basically Yonko level

[prisma idol]

Correct

[tranquil blade]

Except Bullet definitely exuded that "oc" energy a lot more than Kaido did I'd argue

[hasty sable]

Buggy said he was Rayleigh level

[prisma idol]

A lot of Kaido's Characterization comes from Onigashima

[stable dock]

See I didn't look at it as wanting to just die, I saw it as Kaido wanting a glorious death, like WB had.

[tranquil blade]

I mean a guy who was a former Roger pirate, who was so feared that even the other level 6 prisoners and Blackbeard was afraid of

[hasty sable]

Yeah I think so as well

[trim lily]

in his awakening form bullet was probably above a yonko or something

[sage temple]

I've seen people notice this too it's almost like Loki was every tuff character put in a blender

[dense haven]

I also hate the fact kaido hogged all the spotlight in wano away from bm. I know it's his arc but oda didn't have to bring bm there

[trim lily]

man i love how nothing of a character he is

[hasty sable]

He says essentially that death is the completion of a person

[dense haven]

all that just for kaido to end up being mid af

[hasty sable]

So Kaido is after self-actualization through war and death

[stable dock]

Jango upscale

[tranquil blade]

Well I mean war and death are the two things he has seen since the day he was born probably

[prisma idol]

@trim lily Stampede came out the same week of chapter 951

[somber flare]

Bullet should’ve been at God Valley

[digital spear]

Big Mom for Elbaf just works much better

[azure wasp]

Who cares about bullet

[tranquil blade]

He was an equal to Rayleigh apparently

[trim lily]

8 year old bullet would’ve cleared imu

[digital spear]

When would Bullet even be part of Rogers crew

[prisma idol]

This chapter

[tranquil blade]

I like bringing up Bullet because he's what an actual nothing character would be

[trim lily]

he was like the last person

[digital spear]

Even after Oden?

[trim lily]

i think so?

[hasty sable]

Garp showing more sympathy for Bullet than he did for anyone else in the series was the funniest part of that movie

Also sengoku

[stable dock]

https://tenor.com/view/roger-gol-d-roger-garp-money-d-garp-rox-d-xebek-gif-26582969

[prisma idol]

Wow actually Stampede was pre-Oden flashback

[dense haven]

kaido does feels like a throwaway movie villain I never looked at it that way

[trim lily]

i was gonna say

oden didn’t even exist then

at least as we know him

[digital spear]

Bullet has to be part of Rogers crew during their least important time

[stable dock]

Oden did exist, we had Oden lore in zou

[sage temple]

Close

[trim lily]

i don’t remember if bullet went to laughtale

[stable dock]

What we didn't have was "Laughtale" which Stampede had somehow lol

[tranquil blade]

Like between Rocks defeat and Oden joining

[trim lily]

i just knew he wanted to beat roger then got pissed he died first

[hasty sable]

Luffy smashing the eternal pose to Laugh Tale was peak

[sage temple]

Loki prototype

[prisma idol]

I dont think he did

[hasty sable]

Such a thing should never exist as I think it’s completely against Roger’s character to let a thing like that exist

[prisma idol]

Looking it up supposedly he left when he found out Roger was sick

[hasty sable]

But it was cool that Luffy smashed it

[hot cairn]

what's this

[digital spear]

I think that made it worth it to "exist"

It was for a movie anyway

[golden valley]

Stampede made Luffy and Usopp peak

[hasty sable]

It’s for a movie so it’s cool

[golden valley]

Dont get it twisted

[digital spear]

Yep

[trim lily]

what a dork

[hasty sable]

Usopp moment with Luffy in that movie is god tier

[hot cairn]

that's funny actually

[hasty sable]

I wish it was in Wano

[golden valley]

Exactly

[dense haven]

socrates is there any loki panel you don't like

[trim lily]

also what the hell, what a random fact

[tranquil blade]

Abyssal gigantism = Imu is sinking characters into the abyss when he uses Domi Reversi and it makes them come out giant and grotesque

[prisma idol]

I WAS GONNA SAY

[golden valley]

Stampede Usopp is the one we’re missing in canon

[prisma idol]

Lmfao

[digital spear]

Was he scared to get infected

[trim lily]

does that imply crocodile was as strong as prime rayleigh

[tranquil blade]

Crocodile upscale

[hot cairn]

i seee

[golden valley]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-one-piece-stampede-one-piece-movie-14-op-movie-14-op-stampede-gif-12937427541037136583

Like WHAAAAT

[digital spear]

Another random casual Croc W

[hasty sable]

Usopp standing up to Kaido for Luffy would have been wooooo

[prisma idol]

Yes

[hasty sable]

I wish Oda was like the Stampede writers

[prisma idol]

Croc was unlucky to run into WB as he was getting his footing

[trim lily]

its funny that they made bullet get captured in the same way shiki did but even more impressively

[tranquil blade]

Also some reference to Blackbeard having a connection to the abyss

[prisma idol]

20 year old Crocodile

[golden valley]

Well, they kinda sucked at everything else

[hasty sable]

[dense haven]

craxy how some random writers know one piece better than oda

[hasty sable]

They gave Usopp one moment that’s better than anything he’s had in in ten years

[prisma idol]

Someone post the sanji Twitter image

[hasty sable]

So I can forgive a lot

[sage temple]

They give Ussop good moments like it comes outta their paycheck

Can't even let him have focus anywhere this arc

[trim lily]

hey he got to explode gunko

[hot cairn]

what could've been

[dense haven]

he lost to a cat

[trim lily]

iscat got hands

[prisma idol]

I still cant believe people try to use Usopp shooting Gunko as a usopp upscale

[tranquil blade]

People in Wano were saying Law and Kidd would lose to Big Mom and Usopp would stand up to her

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-ishowspeed-side-eye-ishowspeed-stream-really-bro-speed-side-eye-gif-15294067925031808124

Quite a stretch

[trim lily]

you can’t deny it was a moment in which he was the focus of it

even if it got immediately negated

[prisma idol]

Also Usopp vs that one Manmayer girl in the final war btw

[fallen meteor]

noo dude thats luffy haha you are thinking of the wrong strawhat 🙂

[golden valley]

Oda used Usopp to flex Gunko. I don’t think one understands how disrespectful that is

[trim lily]

she clears him

[sage temple]

I mean I guess

I feel like Gunko got more focus there but idk

[dense haven]

I'd forgive oda if usopp defeats loki and steal his hammer

[trim lily]

i ain’t never seen usopp shoot 14 slaves and/or civilians at once

[fallen meteor]

soon, dolfius

[trim lily]

elbaf evil arc

[prisma idol]

I mean, the HKs dont dodge for the most part, she instantly healed and then aura farmed on him

Proceeding with a knee to the jaw

[fallen meteor]

what if the elbaf being usopp's arc is actually that he is the main villain

[sage temple]

Sleeping good tn knowing this will never happen

[fallen meteor]

DR'd Usopp

[trim lily]

the durability of the regen people is so weird

[golden valley]

Warcury is meant to be a special case

[trim lily]

i know oda will just make them more durable when the inevitable counter is found but they feel like paper mache now

[trim lily]

god gunko’s power is so fun

i’m gonna miss it when she’s gone

[sage temple]

That same attack couldn't break bricks 💔

[prisma idol]

I mean she was the first paramecia in a while no?

Well fighting paramecia

[trim lily]

yeah

i can’t think of the last new one other than vegapunk

[prisma idol]

Satrun's whole body body broke to pieces by just a regular haki punch, Oda just does the Immortality Dura weird

[golden valley]

Its meant to be tough, hence why Luffy went G4.

[ruby moat]

WCI had a bunch but that was loaded with fruits in general

[trim lily]

ah in hachinosu during the egghead cutaway

[fallen meteor]

She dies loses her df usopp eats it brook revives her

[golden valley]

Usopp packs some good firepower

[tranquil blade]

Notice how the paramecia dominant arc was better than the zoan dominated arc

Hmm

[hot cairn]

"el hermano reveal"

[sage temple]

The mode Luffy goes into isn't really reliable for determining how strong something is

[prisma idol]

Man so much shit happened in egghead

[trim lily]

i would rather it and her be gone forever than let usopp have it

[golden valley]

Sure, its just to highlight Luffy didn’t think his standard punches was enough

[fallen meteor]

But he could curve shots

[tranquil blade]

That wall was actually stronger than Doflamingo

[trim lily]

actually yeah

[ruby moat]

he doesnt need a fruit for that

[trim lily]

it combined with his projectiles could be cool

[golden valley]

Stronger than Katakuri*

[ruby moat]

oda could just make him do it as a feat of marksmanship

[trim lily]

yeah but having arrows is cooler

[tranquil blade]

My goat is washed 💔

[prisma idol]

I truly am curious on what Harald did still

[golden valley]

Road just keeping above Katakuri material in his little “prison”

Crazy

[hot cairn]

this break week went by flying

[fallen meteor]

It did not

[golden valley]

Been washed since Wano Act 1

[sage temple]

It's not like the snake is insane just because Luffy used a literal god level power. So there are definitely cases where whatever gear Luffy chooses to use aren't really indicative of how strong his opponent is

[tranquil blade]

It did not at all

[sage temple]

Or wall in this case

[trim lily]

i’m guessing it’s a combination of his progressive policies and letting himself get killed by loki and co

[fallen meteor]

I feel like this break week started back in 2020

[plucky tulip]

any joyboy slander?

[tranquil blade]

No

[prisma idol]

No

[fallen meteor]

No

[hot cairn]

i've been very busy so it helped a lot

[sage temple]

I'm crine bro used Haki as well 😭 this snake is dead

[tranquil blade]

I did see slander once that said he had all 3 ancient weapons and still fumbled but we dont know exactly how he lost so

[plucky tulip]

Blamed zunesha for his loss and punished him

What a loser

[golden valley]

Eh, sure, but I treat G5 differently. Luffy goes into it even when he doesn’t need to because he feels free

[tranquil blade]

Going into gear 5 is kinda like doing drugs so maybe Luffy is just an addict

[prisma idol]

Yall arent ready for when Road goes up there and solos Imu

[trim lily]

i hope imu kills him

please someone do it

[golden valley]

He addicted off toon force

Crazy

[formal wagon]

good point

[golden valley]

Please never glaze that weirdo this hard again

[formal wagon]

i need to be ready

[fallen meteor]

Are you now

[formal wagon]

not yet

but i will be

[golden valley]

Road worse giant oat

[tranquil blade]

Expecting a giant to be strong? Daring

[golden valley]

I cant think of a giant thats worse tbh

[prisma idol]

But people glaze sanji?

[tranquil blade]

I used to defend Road until I remembered how creepy he was

[formal wagon]

oimo

[golden valley]

wow

[formal wagon]

wow

wowwubzie

[golden valley]

Sanji disrespect

[tranquil blade]

Was Oimo the one that got no diffed by Doll

or was that Kashi

[golden valley]

Who the hell is that

[prisma idol]

Kashi I believe

[formal wagon]

😭 exactly

[fallen meteor]

Do you mean Dhole
Man why viz does this

[tranquil blade]

He doesnt know

[formal wagon]

DID VIZ ACTUALLY CALL HER DHOLE???

[tranquil blade]

He's one of the two Enies Lobby giants

[formal wagon]

did dhole truthers win???

[fallen meteor]

Idk in saying shit sorry

[prisma idol]

Remembering how cool Gunko is

[sage temple]

Yeah but rn it seems like Luffy uses gear 4 as a standard for like everything and only uses lower gears when he's intentionally trying to go softer

[somber flare]

I literally just read Egghead again I believed you for a second

[hot cairn]

yeah, is that going to be your new bit?

[formal wagon]

do you want it to be?

[hot cairn]

i miss the present

[fallen meteor]

Its not even misinfo i just created this headcanon

[hot cairn]

sure

[formal wagon]

too dang bad buddy

egghead still ending in december

[hot cairn]

peak

[fallen meteor]

Seemso

[prisma idol]

Same...

I miss luffy...

[formal wagon]

present?

like christmas?

you know what month thats in...

[golden valley]

Best example would’ve been G3 on Colon because I just treat this as Luffy thinking Boundman is necessary to give Loki a good hit 😈

[prisma idol]

Mailbox I forgot

What happens in December

[formal wagon]

forgot what

[fallen meteor]

Eos nami be like
That one goes for the shippers

[hot cairn]

I miss my goat

[formal wagon]

egghead ends egghead ends egghead ends

[prisma idol]

TRUEEEEEE

[formal wagon]

EOS nami will be strong or something

[hot cairn]

this flashback has been going forever

[fallen meteor]

Sengoku be like (the goat is on vacation)

[formal wagon]

is thiss the longest flashback ever in history

[golden valley]

She will be her

[prisma idol]

Just 2-3 more chapters

[hot cairn]

yes

[somber flare]

We got 3 different main characters in this flashback

[tranquil blade]

Erm she would be saying this about Vivi

[formal wagon]

this flashback reminds me of CW show flashbacks

[golden valley]

Marineford was actually a flashback, yall just dont know it yet

[tranquil blade]

I want this flashback to end forever

[hot cairn]

are we sure it's just 2-3 chapters? there's lots to cover

[formal wagon]

arrow flashback

[fallen meteor]

Vivi went to explore space in this scenario

[formal wagon]

wait gunko has arrows...

[sage temple]

[formal wagon]

goda

[prisma idol]

I dont think oda will cover everything and some things can be condensed/shouldn't take that much time to cover

But then again I could also see 6 more chapters

[fallen meteor]

I hope we get a little bit of loki harald stuff

[hot cairn]

me too

[fallen meteor]

Or else the slander will be insane

[formal wagon]

i hope loki forgets what the flashback was supposed to be about

[wraith mantle]

Probably 6 or 7 max

[somber flare]

I think all we have left to cover is what happened in the castle

[hot cairn]

we will end the year and we'll still be here in the flashback

[prisma idol]

It completely depends if Oda covers what loki does after the castle incident

[golden valley]

Loki vs Shanks is being covered

[formal wagon]

its so fucking funny that hajrudin asked loki to keep it brief before this 😭

[tranquil blade]

No

I dont wanna even see it

[somber flare]

The narrator kinda just said fuck you and took over the flashback

[prisma idol]

Why do you want to see Loki get washed?

[hot cairn]

offscreened

[formal wagon]

that damn narrator

[tranquil blade]

No more flashbacks for the entire arc

No more

[somber flare]

This is stuff he has no idea about

[ruby moat]

Dudes saying all this shit just to spite hahrudin

[golden valley]

Sorry, but Oda isn’t missing his shot to see Shanks cooking Loki

[hot cairn]

brook/gunko

[tranquil blade]

NO MORE

[prisma idol]

Yeah Oda will always glaze Shanks

[somber flare]

Shanks vs Loki is gonna be 1 page

[fallen meteor]

Its crazy that he isnt the protagonist of his own flashback
Oda please go back to the castle at least

[formal wagon]

kidd flashback
jarul/noland flashback
mosa flashback
2nd loki flashback showing him meeting shanks and the lola stuff

[hot cairn]

are you the real neek

[sage temple]

Avery has lost her credebility

[somber flare]

yea

I think this name is pretty fitting

[sage temple]

Kidd's assery has done irreversible damage to powerscaling debates

[prisma idol]

I will never forgive rocks

Mid character

[ruby moat]

Knowing Oda, shanks vs Loki will be a one shot

[formal wagon]

i will forgive rocks

[prisma idol]

Shanks wins

[hot cairn]

please

[tranquil blade]

The second Shanks says "Divine..." we just get Loki's reaction and then the fight might cut away

[sage temple]

Wanna bet?

[hot cairn]

I want to go back to harald and loki

[formal wagon]

he was mind controlled into being evil (fucking lame)

[tranquil blade]

There's too much stuff to cover

[hot cairn]

at least it looks like the god valley section is over

[ruby moat]

Shanks will whip out that one move roger just used against rocks and throw it right on Lokis head

[formal wagon]

god this mind control shit is so lame i had forgotten

[tranquil blade]

Oda you spent way too long on Rocks

[sage temple]

If you really think Shanks will one shot Loki lets bet on it

[prisma idol]

Almost 6 months with no luffy....

How will I survive

[formal wagon]

a blessing

[cunning narwhal]

i bet we'll have 2 more chapters before returning to the castle flashback

[formal wagon]

keep this flashback going forever

[hot cairn]

💔

[cunning narwhal]

one to wrap up gv, and the other to wrap up haralds backstory until the day of his death

[hot cairn]

2 more god valley chapters?

[prisma idol]

2-3 more god valley chapters?

[somber flare]

Oda needs to keep Luffy away from Gunko as long as possible to drag out the arc because he gonna one shot her

[fallen meteor]

15 more flashback chapters

[ruby moat]

I don’t rly think that would happen and it would be pretty lame if it did happen but with how much Oda glazes shanks and how short one piece fights are these days it wouldn’t be completely out of nowhere

[prisma idol]

I think I've heard this before

[trim lily]

this time for sure

[golden valley]

Gunko is Imu rn

[prisma idol]

God Valley is eternal

God Valley is Wano Act 4

[trim lily]

no that’s the heaven realm

[fallen meteor]

and 5

[hot cairn]

god valley is indeed eternal

[fallen meteor]

when are they going under the tree to meet the actual elbaf main villain on the hell realm

[hot cairn]

it needs to end next chapter

[somber flare]

And Imu will shake in their boots when they hear Nika

[golden valley]

https://tenor.com/view/omniman-cry-omniman-cry-omniman-peak-gif-17652461541122198247

[sage temple]

Yeah I thought so

[tranquil blade]

Oda is gonna forget about the Heaven Realm and then like 100 chapters later in the middle of the final war he'll explain what's there in an sbs

[prisma idol]

Cant believe Kaido and Big Mom will return in Wano Act 4 in the Heaven realm of Elbaf where they will team up with Urouge, Uta, Shiki and Kidd to one shot Imuko. Loki will cry seeing the Rocks pirates members. And Shamrock will return and cut the tree in half using Demonic Arrival and Solo everyone on the island.

[golden valley]

Given how confident the Gorosei are against Nika, I doubt this

[sage temple]

I hope the theory about Loki descending from the Heaven Realm theory is true

[fallen meteor]

its one village of humans that make giant bras

[tranquil blade]

and the thing is Oda would say this too

I'm convinced he's ragebaiting

[ruby moat]

lol

[cunning narwhal]

"its just the top of a tree guys idk what you were expecting"

[prisma idol]

Guys can we stop pretending like oda isn't horny 99% of the time he does an SBS

[fallen meteor]

fixed

[prisma idol]

Killingham

[golden valley]

Goatedham

[fallen meteor]

big fan of this one

dude is like 'huh?'

[ruby moat]

his zoan form is so much cooler than his human form its a shame

[prisma idol]

Actually why is killingham in this mode a light color

[ruby moat]

or ig thats hybrid not human

[sage temple]

Stolen Valor

I hope he dies for making a mockery of Loki

[prisma idol]

He's two different colors

[ruby moat]

killingham is perfect setup to be an usopp W oda just needs to take the opportunity 🙏

[golden valley]

Loki will be the one to close the nightmare holes

Actually nvm no

[sage temple]

Wait why is he a unicorn and a dragon

[prisma idol]

He's a Kirin

[fallen meteor]

crazy that my brain just erased this horn

[tranquil blade]

Same

[sage temple]

Wow

[golden valley]

Usopp is NOT winning, but he can fight against the fears

[tranquil blade]

I swear his horn is pointier in the volume cover

[prisma idol]

I thought it was two horns

[ruby moat]

trust in the goat

[prisma idol]

But it's only one

[trim lily]

does he not have two horns

huh

[fallen meteor]

isnt it 3

like two smaller one huge

[sage temple]

Why is he not this

[ruby moat]

itd be the post time skip version of perona

[prisma idol]

Because he is in centaur mode

[sage temple]

Ohhh

So he still has a full zoan form to get into?

[prisma idol]

Yes

[fallen meteor]

theres no way

[prisma idol]

Its just a single horn

[sage temple]

Oh sick

[trim lily]

what a dork

[cunning narwhal]

same bro 😭

[golden valley]

Actually hmmm, thats odd. Killingham centaur body is a different color than his hybrid or whatever

[ruby moat]

this is some mandela effect shit

i thought it was two horns as well

[prisma idol]

Thats what I'm saying

[fallen meteor]

big horn conspiracy

oda is paying image hosts to swap drawings of killingham to change the horn count

[golden valley]

I don’t think we’ve seen this when it comes to Mythical Zoans

Killingham DF transformations are weird

[prisma idol]

Also if Shanks has Gryphon and Shamrock has Cerebrus What does Garling have?

[golden valley]

Actually no

We have seen

Color changes

[prisma idol]

He definitely has a sword with a name

[golden valley]

Kaido’s Hybrid Drunk form or whatever

[sage temple]

How many forms does the guy have

[prisma idol]

Thats not a total swap like Killingham tho

[fallen meteor]

that one monster

[prisma idol]

Also his face does not match his mannerisms

[fallen meteor]

with all the other animals

[ruby moat]

not at all i dont like his human face that much

[prisma idol]

But I have seen good Killingham art

[fallen meteor]

forgot the name

[sage temple]

Makes sense for his dragon form to always have a sleepy face

[hot cairn]

Oda gave this mf 2 different personalities

[ruby moat]

his human face is super edgy it doesnt fit him at all

[trim lily]

yeah i don’t think anyone expected him to look like that

[fallen meteor]

manticore or straight up some sort of chimera

[golden valley]

Ig if makes sense

[sage temple]

Have we ever seen man-beast form

[sage temple]

True how tf did he awaken

He doesn't look like a big sleep guy

[prisma idol]

https://vxtwitter.com/_uhhoh/status/1976773016160965032?t=OBEbC3A-ynjRHRBXAmwgqA&s=19

!?! (@_uhhoh)

https://t.co/JnFtFiHxaE

vxTwitter / fixvx · Oct 10, 2025, 10:13 PM

[trim lily]

he was drowsy early in the arc

[ruby moat]

jesus said two personalities and that kinda fits tbh

he speaks much different in human form as well

[golden valley]

IIRC, Killingham does seem pretty lazy and makes comments on it

[hot cairn]

absolutely

[formal wagon]

omg i've talked abuot this a lot actually

so, gryphon is a mythical animal associated with zeus and cerberus is one associated with hades

If that theme were to be followed a poseidon themed weapon would be what garling wields, and no other fits better than the hippocampus. It could be either the actual mythical hippocampus or the sea horse named after it :D : D :D

[sage temple]

Maybe it's like Lucci's works

[golden valley]

Killingham’s human form seems more awake

[trim lily]

i’m not a huge fan of how he looks in the manga but fanart managed to win me over for his human appearance

[ruby moat]

oh where u get taken over by it partially

[golden valley]

More energized in a sense

[sage temple]

Because Lucci says he doesn't recognize Luffy as an emperor in human form but he contradicts this in leopard form

[trim lily]

he locked in since his boss is around

[sage temple]

Maybe it's like this but a bigger scale

[formal wagon]

okay everyone tell me my theory on garlings weapoon is good and cool please

[golden valley]

That actually makes sense too considering the dream manifestations “revive”

[somber flare]

The sword name hippocampus fits because it has the same amount of aura Garling has, which is 0

[sage temple]

Yeah but only when you're in a certain form

[prisma idol]

This btw is the same person who has done the maffey fan art I like of her blasting Shamrock with a beam

[ruby moat]

ya

[prisma idol]

Not shamrock sommers

[formal wagon]

he could ride it like a horse though which would be cool

[hot cairn]

fan art artists are very talented

[golden valley]

Shanks having a sword DF is gonna give Shanks fans new ammo

[formal wagon]

sea horse sword would also be funny

[proud pivot]

Bluko

[golden valley]

Not particularly a good one either

[ruby moat]

im imagining those "horses" from water 7

[sage temple]

Soon it will all become a Loki upscale

[golden valley]

Shanks fans are already deluded, DF Gryphon would make them even more deluded

[somber flare]

It would be dumb

[formal wagon]

yeah it'd be like them but with legs

[trim lily]

i knew the art style looked familiar

[ruby moat]

sweet

[sage temple]

If Shanks gets any more buffs I'd start to wonder why Oda keeps giving Loki impossible fights

[fallen meteor]

Crazy autocorrect

[hot cairn]

camisole

[prisma idol]

Ayo?

[formal wagon]

i have to write like 2k words before i go to sleep

[somber flare]

Homeless Shanks is way better than him having a sword devil fruit

[hot cairn]

I need to sleep

[fallen meteor]

About what

[hot cairn]

goodbye

good night

[prisma idol]

Why the world ends in 12 hours

[formal wagon]

nonfiction essay for a writing class

[fallen meteor]

Gn

[ruby moat]

lemme write some of it

[fallen meteor]

And this is nonfiction

[somber flare]

isn't 2k words like 10 pages or something

[prisma idol]

Indeed, Some lady on TikTok told me about it and told me to go to her TikTok shop and buy these special rocks to protect me so I spent 5k on them

[sage temple]

Sneak a slur in it somewhere

https://tenor.com/view/bad-evil-laugh-smile-raccoon-gif-15261232

[fallen meteor]

Is it shungite

[formal wagon]

yeah i'm def not hitting 10 though 😭

[prisma idol]

Uhhhh.... sure.....

[formal wagon]

i'm at 700 words right now and i'm only at page two causse there's just no dialouge

rubric said 7-10 so i'm hitting 7

[fallen meteor]

Watch out to not hit 6

[formal wagon]

six seeeeeeven

[tranquil blade]

You may not get the chance to sleep

[formal wagon]

why not

[sage temple]

Wait

[fallen meteor]

Avery is on your walls

[sage temple]

!vent

[tropic nova]

DON'T VENT YOUR ISSUES HERE

[sage temple]

[formal wagon]

you got me i did the thing

[trim lily]

amogus

[sage temple]

Yeah I did what can I say 🤷‍♂️

[fallen meteor]

[formal wagon]

you can say egghead ends december

[sage temple]

Almost let it slip by

[cunning narwhal]

2k words is torture 😭

[pine jungle]

You got it mailbox

[formal wagon]

sometimes 100 word disscussion posts hurt more than 2k word essays

[fallen meteor]

What even are you writing about
Like does it have a theme or just nonfiction

[sage temple]

I just want Loki to own the anime next year just like he owned the manga this year

[formal wagon]

like memoir stuff, personal experience. my theme is "sense of place"

[fallen meteor]

I see..

[pine jungle]

Socrates, and I say this out of curiosity, not slander, where are you getting that Loki owned the manga this year.

[sage temple]

Uhhh

The manga?

[fallen meteor]

This year is rocks' year

[ruby moat]

https://tenor.com/view/pffttt-7tv-twitch-gif-12963762873218034436

[trim lily]

apple works in mysterious ways

[fallen meteor]

Take a bite

[fallen meteor]

He stole it late game but there's no argument here

[cunning narwhal]

loki didnt move me half as much as chapter 1155 did

[sage temple]

Definitely not

[trim lily]

can you in good faith argue loki got more than rocks did this year

[pine jungle]

Very literal, I like it

[trim lily]

baby loki is impressive so i understand why it’d be close

[sage temple]

No

[fallen meteor]

Hes probably the second one

[sage temple]

But lets be honest here isn't Rocks basically Loki by association?

[craggy vapor]

What planet does Nusjuro represent?

[fallen meteor]

But what oda did with rocks was just too much for all the other charas

[fallen meteor]

Venus

[fallen meteor]

No lol

[cunning narwhal]

he's v. nusjuro

[sage temple]

Just making sure

[somber flare]

The parallel of swinging their weapon

[fallen meteor]

They walk around shirtless

And theres like a fluffy dofflamingo cape

[craggy vapor]

that’s weird. Nusjuro doesn’t sound like Venus.

[sage temple]

And then the tongue

[fallen meteor]

Ethanbaron V. Nusjuro

[ruby moat]

his full name

[fallen meteor]

Full name

[sage temple]

And the fighting technique

[golden valley]

V. Nusjuro

V-nus

Venus

[craggy vapor]

you mean the V stands for Venus?

[fallen meteor]

No it stands for Ve

[golden valley]

Say V-nus

Out loud

Or in ur head

[fallen meteor]

The nus is from Nusjuro

[cunning narwhal]

damn loki stole his fit

[golden valley]

V-nus sounds like Venus

[craggy vapor]

oh I get it now. Feeling stupid. Thx guys

[golden valley]

Yeah, its a play on words

Saturn and Mars the most clear tho

[sage temple]

They attack, believe, look, pirate, and care the same

[fallen meteor]

TOPMAN WARCURY

[sage temple]

That's enough for me

[golden valley]

Ju Peter is the most clever honestly

[royal kettle]

what he do?

[fallen meteor]

very confused chatters today

[pine jungle]

Yep

[golden valley]

Im talking about the name, but what he do? He succs

[pine jungle]

Learning is occuring

[sage temple]

They seek knowledge

[pine jungle]

We love to see it

[golden valley]

https://tenor.com/view/jupeter-jupiter-one-piece-ju-peter-shepherd-ju-peter-one-piece-gif-2419885513280929239

Bro, he looks like a pp 💔

😭

[sage temple]

Gonna have to add a few more question marks

How would I know you're confused

[craggy vapor]

my favorite naming wise

[royal kettle]

i just like him because he is a boar

[fallen meteor]

Its so hot rn wtf

[tropic nova]

DON'T VENT YOUR ISSUES HERE

[sage temple]

Wonder who did that

[stray prism]

good morning

[rare ivy]

He looks like something

[fallen meteor]

Not an issue i love the heat

And lying

[formal wagon]

fishman island

[blazing depot]

Bro I’m a fucking cpu I’m gonna overheat

[formal wagon]

amd 😭 :sob

[unique lagoon]

theres got to be a reason why loki changed hammers

did people theorized about it already?

[warm fossil]

he didn't like the design 💔

[unique lagoon]

so the first one dint have magic powers like enma

the legendary giant group all using hammers

loki was a pirate for 8 years

rocks was looking for those guys also

rocks wanted herald to use the hammer + the df?

[iron oriole]

All i've seen is that its possibly linked to the DF of Elbaf as it was in the same room as the DF

[unique lagoon]

what a cheeky placement by oda

[iron oriole]

Oda is silly sometimes too

The goofy goober

[unique lagoon]

hes just a silly lil guy

[fossil nimbus]

Loki is Rocks biggest fanboy

[formal wagon]

yeah lokis pretty tall

so he's probably biggest

[stray prism]

good day today love the rain

[glass plume]

i think it could be a God Knight

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/QGYS81GPrW.gif

[maiden saffron]

this is still one of the more insane things toei has done

[maiden saffron]

nice

[pseudo gulch]

They made Kin'emon swim in Onigashima lol

[sand plinth]

yeah i remember seeing this the first time, its wild

[trim lily]

man toei wano had a lot of great stuff

like that monkey nuclear bomb against ulti

[glass plume]

https://tenor.com/view/saint-shepherd-ju-peter-gorosei-dinner-time-lunch-on-the-table-breakfast-snack-snacc-suction-kirby-like-suck-animation-manga-op-burp-scream-desperate-man-falling-up-mouth-throat-dune-sandworm-worm-monster-scary-gif-16672053764573604681

[azure acorn]

only in one piece you get to see dianosaure vs robot fight and an 8yo getting crusified

[azure acorn]

and that too

[azure acorn]

though are side carecters . they now use hakii??

[frozen aspen]

all of these guys would be bonney victims if they were in egghead

https://twitter.com/PeachyDash/status/1985410991568367768

✨Peachy-Keen✨ (@PeachyDash)

This is what Shamrock has felt like to me since his introduction

X · Nov 3, 2025, 6:17 PM

[glass plume]

hey now

don't be so mean

[native seal]

https://tenor.com/view/hihimaru-one-piece-gif-6326402862368782070

hilarious

[azure acorn]

i am gigelling soo hardd

[native seal]

i thought it was a fan edit at first

[azure acorn]

i was acthually watching this seen few minute ago

[azure acorn]

it's cannon

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-luffy-luffy-fat-fat-luffy-goofy-luffy-gif-13217773602074167430

[glass plume]

hiHIMaru

[grand flower]

Verily

@hot cairn coworker out the blue told me he thinks Luffy is about to go back in time

Then today I open Reddit and get recommended a thread discussing bootstrap paradoxes as a trope

The universe never lies to me

[azure acorn]

that bird that i hate

[sand plinth]

i had to go find this because i refused to believe it was real, this is the funniest thing ive seen in this disc in a while LMAO

[prisma yacht]

Is there any chance we get a few hints on Sunday ??

[native seal]

dont count on it

[gritty shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/toy-story-woody-taking-chance-8ball-billiard-gif-9807107

[prisma yacht]

Aw man

[pseudo gulch]

I think we get leaks a bit earlier right after a break week

Not sure tho since I don't read spoilers

[prisma yacht]

We do but the whole Redon thing is also there

[ornate tartan]

nah it’s gonna be monday

there’s a color spread and cover this upcoming week

oda probably does 2 chapters not 3 in a row again

those take a lot of time

[prisma yacht]

[ornate tartan]

I can already see Oda getting crucified when the color spread ends up being strawhats

I think Rocks color scheme will be revealed on the next volume cover

[native seal]

rocks roger and garp color spread would feed generations

imagine rocks roger and garp color spread with bb luffy and koby holy shit

[ornate tartan]

bro the last 13 color spreads were strawhats

😂

[grand flower]

I need it

[tough igloo]

would probably be ace instead of koby lol

go with the descendants

[grand flower]

https://tenor.com/view/garp-chujou-vice-admiral-monkey-d-garp-one-piece-garp-garp-one-piece-monkey-d-garp-gif-12668444578234712907

[ornate tartan]

the last non strawhat color spread was in wano ch 1094

and it still had zoro

[grand flower]

HIS ARMS ARENT EVEN IN THE SLEEVES

HOW SWAY

[glass plume]

what is the will of D

[grand flower]

A symbol that humanity’s hopes, dreams and joy will always unite them to overcome evils like Imu

[trim lily]

the will of dingus…

[native seal]

https://x.com/sandman_AP/status/1989641172764241994

sandman (@sandman_AP)

Luffy’s bounty was just 30 million, too low for someone with such powerful *Haki*, so Blackbeard thought Luffy was lying. Luffy didn’t realize that BB genuinely respected him, and instead took it as an insult. That emotional misreading between the two is quite beautiful.🧡

X · Nov 15, 2025, 10:26 AM

when oda is out of sandman's mouth he be cooking

[tough igloo]

lol Teach being disappointed in Luffy bounty

[pine scaffold]

Its so refreshing to have this type of villain be the main antagonist of a shonen

[tough igloo]

bro said no way your haki this strong with that low ass bounty lol

[pine scaffold]

almost all other main villains are bland

[tough igloo]

Temu Rocks Pirates

[alpine trench]

Who are you referring to

[hasty sable]

I personally liked Teach saying he hopes Luffy gets to the sky island

[pine scaffold]

Blackbeard

[hasty sable]

Five minutes before he decides to capture him and turn him over to the marines

[tough igloo]

yeah he always be trying to motivate luffy in a weird way lol

[alpine trench]

Aren’t you an Imu fan

Is this another one of your switch ups

[tough igloo]

and Luffy never has a response with Teach lol he just sits there

[pine scaffold]

Nah I switched up on Imu about 10 chapters ago

[alpine trench]

I never know with you

Braindead

[native seal]

sb is so annoying

[alpine trench]

Never mind

Who am I asking

[hasty sable]

Luffy in general has weird vibes about Teach I think

[alpine trench]

It’s your stupid ass

[pine scaffold]

I AINT THE ONLY ONE

[alpine trench]

Shut up man

[pine scaffold]

Buffy switched up too

[alpine trench]

Buffy hasn’t been on the Imu train for a while

[pine scaffold]

Nah Buffy said they used to think Imu was the final villain

but then this flashback happened

[alpine trench]

What about this flashback made you switch up

[hasty sable]

It would have been a fun dynamic if Luffy liked Teach but couldn’t reconcile that with him being what he was

[native seal]

tomorrow's episode is gonna cover 2 chapters damn

[grand flower]

@pine scaffold I think the poet of the Abyss and the power of Nika have both manifested as three DFs each

[alpine trench]

Future episodes will cover even more

[hasty sable]

So he just doesn’t say anything

[grand flower]

One for each class

[pine scaffold]

This is the most obvious set up ever

[alpine trench]

Bold of you to ping the guy who doesn’t understand that shit

[native seal]

future as in seasonal or future episodes for the year

[grand flower]

Nika Zoan: Luffy

Nika logia: Loki

Nika Paramecia: Buggy

Abyss Zoan: Imu

Abyss Logia: Teach

Abyss Paramecia: Moria

[alpine trench]

Will you change when some other panel reinforces the other viewpoint

[grand flower]

I want to help SB

[alpine trench]

Don’t have hope

[grand flower]

Not hope

Sheer ego

[alpine trench]

The rest of Egghead

[grand flower]

I can fix him

[native seal]

i see

i hope they dont rush the good parts

[alpine trench]

I don’t think they will but it’s also a cautious estimation

[pine scaffold]

Nah

[tough igloo]

i like how oda did it to where even before Luffy knew who teach was , he knew something was off and didn’t say a word lol

[alpine trench]

I don’t believe you

We’ll see in the future

If your ass does some shifting then I’ll know

[native seal]

im even more amazed at how this goes both ways with teach detecting luffy's haki

[trim lily]

you know sb is swapping back to imu in 6 chapters

[alpine trench]

For sure

We return back from the flashback and he will be glazing Imu to the sun and back

[native seal]

thats a guarantee

he will see imu running the gauntlet and say bb will never be able to do that

youre so annoying sb your ragebaits actually work

[alpine trench]

I don’t think he baits like he used to anymore

[trim lily]

is it rage bait if it’s honest

[alpine trench]

He’s lost the game

[potent pier]

Sandman knows way too muhc

[alpine trench]

Nowadays it’s just piratefolk meme posting

[pine scaffold]

When this first dropped, I interpreted it as BB being the one who returns to the flower room to confront Imu

[native seal]

everyone did

[trim lily]

that’s a fair assumption yeah

[pine scaffold]

BB should succeed where his father didn't

[trim lily]

no idea how but i guess blackbeard is locked in to meet imu again near the end

[pine scaffold]

and Imu aint killing BB

so BB is the final villain

case closed

[trim lily]

i’d hope not

[alpine trench]

Weird vibes in what way, you mean?

[alpine trench]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-reaction-reactions-meme-gif-8141100727479891642

[native seal]

speed gifs my beloved

[unique lagoon]

i feel like a lot of people are not satisfied with will of D being will of Davy

[potent pier]

"Davy Jones Will Be back" Expect Imu to call Blackbeard Davy jones

[native seal]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-speed-fortnite-speed-fortnite-fairs-speed-fairs-that-one-speed-stream-gif-351563929135632665

[trim lily]

it’d be weird if it was

[alpine trench]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-ishowspeed-yeah-right-ishowspeed-yeah-ishowspeed-right-ishowspeed-stream-gif-2870397197282141259

[native seal]

ay im a bb final villain believer too so go sb go

[unique lagoon]

ok go on

[trim lily]

davy is set up to be a seperate thing to whatever joyboy is

[pine scaffold]

imagine denying this

[alpine trench]

Did I deny it

[unique lagoon]

what if oda just made joyboy a davy

[trim lily]

that’d be funny

[alpine trench]

Or is it another case of you not reading

[trim lily]

i guess there’s a chance of there being two D meanings or something lol

[native seal]

i just want to know how rocks knows so much

[unique lagoon]

its been a long debate if joyboy is just some nick name

[trim lily]

but i really do think it’s just dawn

[native seal]

is there a davy encyclopedia

[trim lily]

he read the ultra secret history book

[urban lodge]

Shhhh don't think too much about it

[native seal]

the missing part of vegapunk's speech alluded to it

[alpine trench]

He read stuff

[unique lagoon]

sure like all the popular ones
Dawn, Dream, Half Moon now Davy

did i miss one?

[alpine trench]

Also he dealt in the black market and the underworld

[trim lily]

man we’re probably gonna get a second flashback detailing rocks’ past at some point

[native seal]

and i just reread that chapter and the two people on the panel of "among you there is..." were law and bb, the one with the secret "water" name and the davy d.

oda is cheeky

[alpine trench]

So we know he had access to forbidden material

[unique lagoon]

either oda drops rocks full past or reserved it for teach

[trim lily]

i could see us getting it in whatever BB flashback we get later

him learning about his dad

[pine scaffold]

We might get a glimpse of young Rocks next chapter

[unique lagoon]

im still coping hard that imu in elbaf would drop some lore

[pine scaffold]

before he passes away

[alpine trench]

Why

[pine scaffold]

why not

[shell sinew]

So it’s davy d teach

[alpine trench]

It is

[unique lagoon]

i wont be surprise if Roger hears rocks final worlds via VOAT

[trim lily]

imu telling their enemies some forbidden history just for fun

[alpine trench]

I’m asking you why there will be a young rocks and you say “why not”, what do you think is the reason why it would happen sb

[unique lagoon]

we already got some info on imu wanting elbaf warriors

let me find it

[trim lily]

i guess there is a chance to show young rocks, depending on how much oda wants to explain his motivations here

[pine scaffold]

To show us a bit of Rocks's past???

[alpine trench]

Uh

Man

[unique lagoon]

so thats implying imu never really had the power of the giants

or ancient giants for that matter

[alpine trench]

Fuck this you’re incorrigible

[trim lily]

the assumption is imu was with the human kingdoms no?

[alpine trench]

I’m excited to see a return to Harald

[unique lagoon]

what does this mean

[alpine trench]

Rocks Piece is over

[trim lily]

it was 20 human kingdoms vs the ancient kingdom and co. in the past

[unique lagoon]

yes but im talking about an army

[trim lily]

yeah, so imu wouldn’t have been associated with any giants

if they were allied to the humans

[grand flower]

@alpine trench I’m planning to put out a video about the abyss by tonight

Are you interested in it

[shell sinew]

I wonder how they will undo the domi reversi

[alpine trench]

Imu never had the giants on his side, which is why they’re relying on the giants being on their side now and they’ve been planning for a while to have this happen

[alpine trench]

Yeah sure

[proud pivot]

What is your channel name

[grand flower]

Doesnt exist yet

Lmao

[unique lagoon]

so somewhere in the past imu faced with the giant army and found them formidable

[grand flower]

I’m bouta do this like all my essays in school and university

Due date? Nah fam

Do date

[trim lily]

compared to a human army i imagine they would be lmao

[grand flower]

Everything in one day

[trim lily]

one giant is like 50+ humans

[shell sinew]

I want to go back to current day but we still don’t know how harald died lol after all this time

[unique lagoon]

my recent headcanon is that the lunarians was used as an army/demon army slaves
and the giants was on joyboys side

cuz CD took over redline and we assume lunarians was there before

[alpine trench]

Yeah that’s what is coming next in the flashback

[grand flower]

I think the Lunarian originally enslaved the native population of the Blue Star

[trim lily]

if we go by the mural apparently everyone was against imu/humans

[grand flower]

They came from the moon to harvest water

[unique lagoon]

this might be 1st world stuff

[grand flower]

Ya

That’s what I think the first world is describing

[unique lagoon]

im talking about 2nd world = void century war = joyboys war

[grand flower]

The slaves rebelled, and a volcanic cataclysm nearly wiped out life on the blue planet and created the red line

[grand flower]

I think that first line tells us what Imu is

[unique lagoon]

well not really there was human boats behind joyboy

[trim lily]

yeah

oh wait

well the human kingdoms i mean

[unique lagoon]

remember one evenhas the 8 pointed sun

[trim lily]

not all of humanity

i imagine the ancient kingdom had humans too

[unique lagoon]

i think everyone agreed that ancient kingdom dint went to war alone

we dont even know how much of the world already sank during void war

[trim lily]

yeah most of it is still unclear

[unique lagoon]

VP said it was continents but no mention of what timeline

[trim lily]

i imagine the kingdom was one of the casualties of that sinking

[unique lagoon]

looking at the the mural again is wear oda just taking a lot from tolkiens middle earths lore

first second 3rd age stuff

2 ancient trees

gods fought over

[hasty sable]

Things work in threes

[shell sinew]

I wonder if laugh tale was flooded

or underwater

[unique lagoon]

not a bad idea tbh
the water did rise recently

[trim lily]

if this really was the joyboy conflict then it’s extremely hard to think of a way in which the 20 kingdoms were justified

literally every other race is apparently against them

[unique lagoon]

i swear that mural is just mixing all 3 timelines

some of it is even a prophesy iirc

the 3rd world part

like saul said

[trim lily]

it’s fun how many different interpretations there are

it’s like analyzing a real piece of mythology from like 2000 years ago

[lament socket]

I love when writers cook up stuff like this

[unique lagoon]

robin better red more of that harley

thats a big book

[trim lily]

might be a bit tough considering the library is on fire

[unique lagoon]

i mean harley book

nah robin was able to read it

i would assume shes good with memorizing stuff

[trim lily]

i wonder what ended up happening with ange and biblo, we kinda just left them in there

[unique lagoon]

more offscreen stuff

[urban lodge]

We'll find out in about 5 SBSs

[trim lily]

oda reveals they were both traitors but luckily they perished in the fire

[unique lagoon]

that freaking mural might also burn
and the whole franky saying robin should see it
would have no payoff

maybe franky recorded it in his brain

that works i guess

[sand plinth]

franky remembered the mural but the space in his brain it took up pushed out the pluton blueprints

[unique lagoon]

do a brook reveal with the stone copies inside his skull

[potent pier]

https://x.com/sandman_AP/status/1988176356983951548?s=20

sandman (@sandman_AP)

Twenty-one years ago, Oda visited his hometown of Kumamoto two months before marrying Chiaki Inaba to inform his parents of the engagement. However, because he was too busy with his manga work, he stayed for only seven hours before returning to Tokyo.🥺

X · Nov 11, 2025, 9:25 AM

Like how the fuck would he know this shit?!

[frozen aspen]

by making it up

[vale heath]

Once again, ignore him enough and he’ll go away

[pine ridge]

he doesn't

[weary kite]

This really a disney ending

[shell scroll]

Disney ending is such a fantastic name for this

[icy wolf]

doffy sneak

[weary kite]

Why is he bald tho

[upbeat yarrow]

doffy thinks he is part of team🥀

[lofty fern]

This feels more underpowered than when it happened before

[shell scroll]

it happened before?

[lofty fern]

With the heavy hitters of the past

[frail kindle]

meanwhile, doflamingo in there like

[lofty fern]

He saw Oda went to Kumamoto, only stayed for 7 hours and then made up the rest

[pine ridge]

probably nashixts fault

[ancient marsh]

'i always saw that part as a prophecy/future part and those being ancient representationo f modern events.

If you look there, you can see the Kuja Tribe Ship, Wano,

[clear hollow]

Does doflamingo know about Imu or nah?

[lofty fern]

I think the 20 kingdoms were much like the ones we see today, that were greedy or evil. We already know some were like that like with the DonQuixote. A few probably weren't bad but were convinced to feel threatened by the ancient kingdom It became a situation of "we don't like what we don't understand" on top of "we want what they have"

I think Imu fed on those feelings, facilitated even more fear and suspicion and then that's how he got the 20 to unite

[clear hollow]

Bro got the Daz Bones Fade

[ancient marsh]

No way for him to know i think

[lofty fern]

Well, we know all those group already joined with Joyboy in the past

[frail kindle]

It's hinted that he knows but never been confirmed

[lofty fern]

I believe so, there were major indicators that what he was talking about in terms of the national treasure was Imu

[frail kindle]

Because he wanted the op op fruit to put himself in imu's body

[clear hollow]

That makes sense

[lofty fern]

He could. it does feel like several CDs knew, especially those with HK connections

[steel stirrup]

I thought he wanted to be immortal

[ancient marsh]

it couldn't be whatever is the ancient weapon the WG have that they used to destroy lulusia?

[frail kindle]

Yes but he mentions how the fruit would have been useful for him when he was in the holy land

[lofty fern]

He wanted to be immortal, but he also wanted Law's soul transfer ability

[steel stirrup]

I feel like Imu's haki wouldn't have allowed such a ting

[frail kindle]

It's possible

[steel stirrup]

Yea its possible

Not denying that

[lofty fern]

Some of Law's abilities can affect you even with haki

[ancient marsh]

wasn't he also a Kid when he lived in Mary Geoise?

[steel stirrup]

Now that he is awakened sure

[frail kindle]

No I'm agreeing with you that it's possible his haki would negate it lol

[lofty fern]

Yeah, but we don't know how much even the kids know

[icy wolf]

do we still think imu is human or nah

after everyone on god valley calls it a black blob

[steel stirrup]

Yea it would depend on Oda tbh and how he's feeling

[icy wolf]

or monster or something

[muted flame]

Imu is just a baby don't bully her anymore

[steel stirrup]

Doffy stating that tho makes me think that just maybe it would've been possible if he caught Imu lacking and didnt give them a chance to negate

[ancient marsh]

Not to hate on Oda..but i think thats just him trying to do the did and getting away with it aka put Imu on a fight while not revealing him

[steel stirrup]

I wonder if the 900 year old immortal still needs sleep

[lofty fern]

Hard to say, it's not like Imu's actual body came out of Saturn, so we don't know if that's just an avatar body or not. He has defined features at times

[ancient marsh]

but yes, as far as Gvalley goes..he is a black blob

or some rly ugly mtfcker

[weary kite]

Isnt jus like gunko she can like take over bodys and studf

[steel stirrup]

I saw a theory that they are a blob and their real body is in the Abyss

Thoughts?

[icy wolf]

im pretty sure imu has human hands from what we’ve seen

[clear hollow]

Didnt some theorist fluent in Japanese said that imu's speaking patterns and ways are much similar to a child

[native seal]

i think the one at mariejois is an actual body and the one at GV, as confirmed by roger is just a black blob

[steel stirrup]

Yea we've seen their hand

[lofty fern]

he can do different variations of take over.

[muted flame]

Petition to add a cute imu as a sticker... Somebody tag a mod or an emoter

[steel stirrup]

Yes I believe they speak very old timey (thee, thou, etc) but also speak in a childlike manner

[icy wolf]

yeah thats a human hands for sure

[native seal]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-imu-imu-one-piece-butterflies-flowers-gif-3419652870965976720

[lofty fern]

It varies, Artur thinks it's child-like but sandman disagrees, so who knows?

[native seal]

hello embeds

[steel stirrup]

Only explanation that could cover both human and non human is shapeshifter