also-manga

[glass plume]

hmmmmmmm

[warm sierra]

Way too fast

[rapid ridge]

Inception, the movie, is 15 years old

[warm sierra]

We need the scene where he loses his horns

[unique lagoon]

its such a copout answer just saying
oh because the davys kept records and passed down the knowledge

[pseudo gulch]

Do we?

[unique lagoon]

even kumas father dint know much

just nika will save us bit and he dance to this tune

[glass plume]

God Valley could've had a library with ton of lore specifically about the Davy clan? mayhaps

[tardy void]

god valley gets fully wrapped up and the chapter ends with harald and/or loki reacting to the news

[unique lagoon]

well you know me
any lore reveal is better than clashes

specially now oda added 1st and 2nd world timeline

[glass plume]

i expect Roger's and Garp's arrival back on their main ships to be shown, as well as maybe something with Dragon (hopefully) and then we see Imu execute the erasure of God Valley as it gets beamed just in time for them to escape from there.

and then we probably cut back to Harald crying and Loki reading the news, looking pissed or something

[pseudo gulch]

I don't think we're gonna see God Valley being wiped out of the map, we saw how it works with Lulusia and Saturn already said the "this place doesn't exist" thing

[tardy void]

imu needs the mother flame to power uranus

[glass plume]

we know that Imu used it once before Lulusia

i think that God Valley was that one place

[rapid ridge]

Do you think these super secret records stash is what gives BB the ability to have multiple devil fruits AND the ability to steal them?

[warm sierra]

Where is the crater from enies lobby from then?

[tardy void]

wdym “used it once” it was probably used a bunch of times, and during the void century

[cloud adder]

if oda doesnt show GV getting wiped, readers will never drop the idea that the island survived (aka me)

[tardy void]

god valley is thriller bark!

[pseudo gulch]

I'm not a fan of everything having to be specifically stated/showed personally

[keen quiver]

Its very likely tied to Davy and the void century if not older.

Oda kept tight liped as hell on any details for that

Even the gorosei said they never saw anyone with 2

[pseudo gulch]

It wouldn't add anything to the story, we know the island isn't there anymore and we already saw how the process works

[tardy void]

oda conditioned us for this with fakeout death piece

[tardy void]

we actually dont know if the island is physically there or not

[cloud adder]

imagine trusting sengoku intel

[rapid ridge]

Besides big mom I don't know whose death might have been a fake out

2 times at that, lmao

[tardy void]

it was just said to be wiped off the map, which could be literal with it being wiped off cartography records

[pseudo gulch]

Yeah that's true

[glass plume]

i think we'll see this happen to God Valley as we see the ships flee from it

[tardy void]

i dont think so

[pseudo gulch]

I don't think it's relevant anyway, it wasn't in the Grand Line to begin with so it's not like the straw hats could find it on accident

And if it got Lulusia's nothing of relevance is left on what's left of the island

[tardy void]

how would imu power uranus? where would the talk of the earthquake and meter of sea level rise at this time be?

[glass plume]

the earthquakes and sea level is because of overusage, no?

[tardy void]

they happened after one use bruh

[glass plume]

and Imu would probably power it with something prior to Vegapunk creating the mother flame

[glass plume]

from waht we've seen yeah

[tardy void]

using it multiple times makes them happen multiple times

[glass plume]

we've only seen one island get erased

i don't think that's what was said

[tardy void]

so it was used 200 times in the void century

unless other ancient weapons can cause sea level rising

[glass plume]

also, it's a gradual increase

it's nothing that just goes 200 metres from one ussage

Vegapunk said that it rose 200 metres within a mere century

[tardy void]

bruh @glass plume

[glass plume]

yeah, i don't know how you can make it into that, lol

i never said it was used 200 times

[potent pier]

Uranus doesn't have any more power at this time

[glass plume]

i think it's possible that after God Valley was erased, that's when they had to contact Vegapunk in order to make the Mother Flame to fuel it once again

[tardy void]

if sea levels rise by 1 meter every time uranus gets used, and sea levels rose by 200 meters during the void century, how many times did uranus get used assuming its the only thing that can raise sea levels?

holy reading comprehension

[glass plume]

it doesn't rise by 1 meter every time, lol

200 meters is a gradual increase within a century, which was caused by multiple ancient weapons being in the factor

[tardy void]

the only time we have actually seen it get used, sea levels rose by 1 meter

[glass plume]

you know what nevermind

[potent pier]

Mads were around until 26 years before the current story

[tardy void]

is this just straight up headcanon?

am i getting ragebaited?

[unique lagoon]

i needed to visualize how deep 200 meters is

[tardy void]

has anyone visited one of those sites that shows what the world would look like if a 200 meter sea level rise happened?

[potent pier]

Yes

[unique lagoon]

i still have no idea how blackbeard use 2 DFs tbh

[rapid ridge]

Neither does oda

And he's there sweating profusely

[unique lagoon]

last time i said it could be just some lost race ability

and wayy before that the yami DF was making it possible

[rapid ridge]

Trying to find a solution

[glass plume]

didn't Marco say that it must be his strange body

[unique lagoon]

eh pretty sure oda got it figured out also
will it satisfy the fans? prob?

[rapid ridge]

That was really uncool btw

Fragrant bodyshaming and micro aggression

[glass plume]

lmfao

[unique lagoon]

you got imu already using multiple abilities so BB having 2 DFs kinda you know

[frozen rover]

Hey guyss newbiee here

[unique lagoon]

yes he did. also with gaban revealing theres more half /mix race out there that some have a hard time surviving

[glass plume]

i still don't think that Imu has any devil fruits, but rather something else

[rapid ridge]

Angel fruit

[unique lagoon]

you know what would be depressing? if Eris experimented on BBs body to make him stronger and finish rocks goal

[frozen rover]

I m also caught up to the manga
So maybe BB is not going to take the law's devil fruit

[fluid cedar]

He got no scars

[unique lagoon]

im calling science bullshit on imus power

bit of experimental shenanigans

[rapid ridge]

Na

[potent pier]

That reminded me that Amazon lily was suppose to be revealed later down in the story. That and the fact Oda just added a lot of intrigue pointing out that the guy who sent Luffy there had to be there

[glass plume]

i'm calling dark-magic

[frozen rover]

Maybe his/her sacrs are not revealed yet

[covert bobcat]

oda adds a lot of things last minute

[unique lagoon]

also moon people had an Ai robot army
and for some reason thes army of bots is gone now
never made again by WG who took over

[covert bobcat]

i’m sure he has the main plot points planned

and just makes stuff up along the way

it’s why op is so long lol

[unique lagoon]

its like some inspiration from old scifi books about ai being illegal because they revolted

[glass plume]

we know who made the automatons right?

[unique lagoon]

so imu could be the powerful ai thousands of years ago

[unique lagoon]

moon people ye?

but the old man also made em

how? who knows

[glass plume]

whoever this old dude is

[unique lagoon]

he clearly copied the ones idle under the moon

[tardy void]

he only made a few of them

[glass plume]

i suppose so, yeah

[frozen rover]

I i also think so

[unique lagoon]

and vegapunk already made clones of himself half bot half bio

i mean his brain is inside i think

everything else is metal

[glass plume]

isn't their brain all connected to the giant brain

[frozen rover]

?rank

[glass plume]

#bots

[unique lagoon]

then imu has some weird freezer giant room that has metal pipes
looking like some cyberpunk dystopia

[tardy void]

!pics btw

[tropic nova]

You are able to post pictures after you reach level 10. Check your level by typing ?rank in #bots.

[glass plume]

i bet that it's something from the Void Century, which Pangea was built on top of

[frozen rover]

My msgs are visiblee yeah ?.

[unique lagoon]

yeah its likely imu kept some old tech
even beyond 900 years ago

[glass plume]

and that giant straw hat

[unique lagoon]

spoils of war and such

[glass plume]

almost feels like if giants would live there, no?

considering how huge everything is

[tardy void]

it would be interesting if this is anything other than just uranus

[potent pier]

Dr Hiroluk?

[unique lagoon]

my idea back then was
moon people went down on earth to harves this energy whatever that is
over time it prosper thats the FIRST age
that ended and the advance tech that survived and its people became the ancient kingdom WG killed during 2nd age

[potent pier]

Okay wrong name

[glass plume]

this screams like giant architecture, it's very similair in size to the likes we see in Elbaph imo

[ornate tartan]

https://x.com/thewillofmarco/status/1987690117935616454?s=46

The Will of Marco (マルコの意志) (@TheWillOfMarco)

Dragon looks pissed after hearing what caused the destruction of the Lulusia Kingdom.

X · Nov 10, 2025, 1:13 AM

[frozen rover]

Guyss dragonnn was looking so pathetic tooo

[unique lagoon]

im sticking with what loki said that the first world was Tens of thousand years old

[potent pier]

Dr. Tsukimi

[frozen rover]

I doubt that he is that stromg noww

[potent pier]

That was who that guy was.

[tardy void]

he was the same age as pre timeskip luffy

[unique lagoon]

i think oda always deliver with long awaited characters

look at rocks that was good

[frozen rover]

Yeah thats truee

[vale heath]

When I was your age I was 20

[frozen rover]

So dragon is going to eat weather weather fruit or somethin in the future ?

[frozen rover]

Well i am 19

[unique lagoon]

if oda wants to hype up dragon give him the 2nd DF rocks wanted

[glass plume]

that would be cool

[tardy void]

he wanted 2 fruits and imu is scared of 2 people

sounds like it can be a slam dunk

joyboys fruit (nika) and jones fruit (probably the darkness one)

[unique lagoon]

and let the Yami df be the wild card

[tardy void]

wdym

[unique lagoon]

you could argue he was looking for the yami
so he can eat the 2 DFs rocks wanted

assuming yami was making it possible ofc

[tardy void]

yeah i wouldnt be shocked if its just the fruit davy jones had

[unique lagoon]

one counter to that was burgees was going to take luffys DF to eat it i think

but then again BBP can store stolen DFs and sell em

[vale heath]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-anime-sabo-fight-fire-gif-16338464

[glass plume]

shame that Sabo didn't kill him

[fringe ice]

Yeah...

[unique lagoon]

OP characters dont double tap

[rose rune]

more than two freedoms

[keen quiver]

Its teach himself thats special

Stated by marco

So don't think its the fruit

Very likely important fruit but not why teach can do what he does

[dense haven]

well yea and no

[dense haven]

rocks is cool but maybe he's too cool

every time is see rocks I think of kaidul

feels like the galaxy level edgelord oc some fans make

[glass plume]

yeah he is very much so a fanmade OC vibe

[dense haven]

he kinda what I expected roger to be too

so it leaves a sour taste

[glass plume]

really?

[dense haven]

is this how smoker fans felt after he got trashed by oda?

[glass plume]

i always thought of Roger as a mix of Luffy and Ace, that's what we got
so i am happy

[keen quiver]

I better not be seeing this type of talk when teach is moving again

Feels like if you succeed too much you get stamped oc

[glass plume]

Teach doesn't fit the fanmade OC stereotype at all

[keen quiver]

Let them just have good timing

[keen quiver]

If was conventionally attractive I feel that would be the case.

But I can sense the asspull allegations in the future

[glass plume]

maybe

here's an OC which gives off Xebec vibes, lol

even the same outfit, almost

though Xebec has more leather

[keen quiver]

Teach if oda was a new generation mangaka

[shell sinew]

one of them needs to be eaten by a giant tho

[vale heath]

So, rocks is an OC

He’s Oda’s OC

[woven talon]

Viz diffrences were interesting this week

[vale heath]

That’s how characters work

Luffy is Oda’s OC

[azure wasp]

Too cool to be cool

[woven talon]

This one comes from different assumptions. I think both reads are possible but without seeing them actually going for Rock’s ship it makes sense to assume the guy is asking what about Rocks’s ship. Either can be right tho

Won’t know till we know if he stole the ship

This feels weird because his words and expression are in sync

Or his words and his actions are

Depending on if you think the words reference the telepathic words or literal spoken words

Either way though they don’t exactly all tell 3 different stories

[vale heath]

His words (kill me) and his actions (trying to kill Roger and Garp) are definitely not in sync

[woven talon]

Right but his expression is in sync with the words

[unique lagoon]

i mean did you think he would be doffy level insane powerful evil?

[woven talon]

This has Garp agreeing with the surprise but not so much with the insult to justice now

[vale heath]

It really looks like he only has partial control of his face

[woven talon]

This specifies it’s the low ranking marines he cares about

[vale heath]

Smile-crying is unnatural

[unique lagoon]

oh viz is out

any major change?

[woven talon]

Hazard pay is very silly

[vale heath]

They kept that weird “mass” conversation

Which is notable

[woven talon]

Suggests that all the marines here have a bonus

[woven talon]

They alter it from the Japanese tho

[unique lagoon]

someone check translation for "weight" roger said

nvm im reading it now

[woven talon]

Here they apply the mass to the haki

But there’s reason to think mass and haki are separate factors. Might not be but I wouldn’t rule it out

[vale heath]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1175920113111797760/1437200615557169323/image.png?ex=691309a0&is=6911b820&hm=69367a50ad108b668e406da4d6d0b69d8f35f5cb2ebbc036ae4631fd70d73879& I was just expecting it to be a bit more clear cut

So the fact this strange language was kept this way leads to me think maybe this is a technique of some kind?

[unique lagoon]

if you look into the whole overpower it with CoC with 2 characters
how does the defensive CoC work there?

if 1 character does the same amount of CoC dmg as 2 characters willit be the same outcome?

does this make sense?

[woven talon]

Going with gram here is just as valid as Graham

This dragon line is just wrong as far as I can tell

[vale heath]

Advanced conqueror’s really does seem to just be armament 2

[woven talon]

And finally I think making Kagutsuchi just fire god is a bit insulting

Like translating Thor to Thunder God

Oda didn’t use his title he used his name

That’s about it difference wise

[woven talon]

Only thing I’m a bit up in the air about is this as either is potentially correct

[unique lagoon]

because assuming roger and garp had the same amount of CoC strength with their attacks
if roger did it alone but attack with the same consistency equal to the duo CoC
can roger still kill him?

[woven talon]

As to whether he’s stealing rocks’ ship or just explaining that no one’s going to use it

[woven talon]

Don’t know

[unique lagoon]

this is just nitpicky information i guess

bottom line you can combine CoC attacks to overpower 1 powerful CoC defense

i forgot did luffy and kaido use CoC defensively?

[vale heath]

I don’t think Luffy ever did

I’m not sure it was stated or shown that Kaido did but we can backwardly assume so, now we do know it can be?

And also probably an answer as to why big mom skin is so hard, as advanced conquerors defense seems to be invisible even to the hakicamera

That’s why she can be hurt in a moment of turmoil - she loses her will for a bit, shield drops

[cyan wraith]

Bumasses still arguing like only acoc can break acoc defense when it has never been said in the manga 😂

[vale heath]

The limits of advanced conqueror’s are still unknown and it being used defensively seems to be new information as of this chapter

So I don’t know why you feel the need to act smug about it as if you understand it better than anyone else

[cyan wraith]

Advanced conquerors was already used as defense in wano. G5 is literally coated with conquerors haki at all times. Why are people acting like this is new information lol

[vale heath]

Because I recall no such statement of G5 being coated in advanced conqueror’s at all times. Proof call, find that panel.

[frozen rover]

Just thinking what the power level is going to be after Luffy reaches the level of Joyboy.

[vale heath]

Bajrang Gun was an advanced conqueror’s attack, is the closest I remember.

[cyan wraith]

Kaido literally said it when he fought with Luffy

[vale heath]

So provide that panel

[cyan wraith]

Bruh i can't be bothered to go and find it. Kaido talked about how free Luffy was fighting and how he was coated in both armament and conquerors haki.

This panel also exist

[alpine trench]

Charge your phone man goddamn

[vale heath]

Burden of proof is on the positive claim. Until such time you do, the answer “no he didn’t” is equally valid.

[cyan wraith]

Here

[frozen rover]

Well he just have to thinkk

[minor sapphire]

luffy's imaginative power allows him to use conquerers haki?

[vale heath]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1196504365347909793/1241102399930892378/image.png?ex=6912de6e&is=69118cee&hm=87bf59f65a6a3cb30f55f0b0d00971fd7262b18921f88f0dcf275a7f9fe06594& the sequence of events following Luffy’s awakening of advanced conqueror’s were exclusively attacks. “Coating yourself with it” can be, and was, interpreted as to mean for attacking. The words “for defense” only now appear as of the current chapter.
I can accept the application that it was used defensively in the Kaido fight.
I do not agree with the conclusion that such is obvious from the fight alone.

[alpine trench]

He can use conquerors haki because he has the ability to

[wide star]

difference between what Luffy & Rocks did is that Luffy wasn’t negating any attacks/damage

[dense haven]

wtf haki radiation is real

roger got coc cancer

I always knew it

[cyan wraith]

Luffy was getting one shot every time Kaido landed a clean hit on him before Luffy learned advance conquerors. But after he learned it, he was tanking them much better. All before g5. Why do you think thst happened lol. I thought it was common knowledge that the most basic use of advanced conquerors was to coat themselves like armament haki to make themselves stronger.

[minor sapphire]

what if its actually the case but luffy is pretty dumb in these things and that can act as an advantage to him actually lol

[alpine trench]

He can use Conquerors haki when he’s not in G5

[vale heath]

Luffy also got one shot by Lucci and rose to an even fight in 6 hours.
That’s just how shonen works

[alpine trench]

This page right here is evidence he can

[wide star]

Luffy taking attacks better after G5 is what zoan awakenings do lol

[glass plume]

Luffy has always taken attacks well

[minor sapphire]

he can use his imaginative powers without awakening

[cyan wraith]

Because Rocks haki got Imu buffed. And haki is an amplifier in the first place. With domi Xebec's insane body paired with coc defense, it was almost impossible to harm him.

[alpine trench]

What

[minor sapphire]

red rock is an example of that like how can a rubber produces fire

[alpine trench]

With friction

[dense haven]

imu uspcale

[minor sapphire]

it wwas luffys imaginative power all along

[alpine trench]

Red Hawk already existed before from Fishman Island

[vale heath]

The ignition temperature for friction of a fist underwater is far in excess of basically anything ever

[glass plume]

Luffy isn't the only one to use friction to produce flames in combination with an attack

[vale heath]

So I am leaning FMI red Hawk was a portion of Nika power

[cyan wraith]

What's being incorrectly misinterpreted somehow by people is that you need coc to break coc defense. Which has never been mentioned. Any strong enough attack can break coc defense. But ofcourse regarding immortal Imu puppets, actually harming their body probably needs conquerors haki

[dense haven]

luffy was already boiling with g 2 he can just make fire at will

[vale heath]

Yeah and he can make fire at will by the method of: Nika powers

Is what is being posited

[unique lagoon]

i remember this line being up for debate if its a passive thing or luffy just activate it when he needs it

[minor sapphire]

yes it is luffy thinks he can do that thats why he can fire his fist

[wide star]

I think in one piece characters can just create fire on their attacks and it got nothing to do with nika lol oda just loves doing it , even made a fire sword style for zoro to use

[cyan wraith]

Some people were talking like any person with superior coc would be able to tank any attack from inferior coc attacks after reading the latest chapter. How can people be so dimb 😂. Attack power depends on many things like strength, size, speed, amount of haki used etc.

[dense haven]

obviously luffy has passive powers he's one of the few df that still work underwater

[glass plume]

yeah fire isn't a biggie for people to use

[dense haven]

at least the strechting part

[alpine trench]

I mean exactly, how do Kinemon and Zoro cut fire lmfao it’s just what Oda thinks is cool

[dense haven]

now it's been a point of debate forever if that is nika awakening or not

well never know

[cyan wraith]

It still has never been explained what tf sword techniques are and how they work

[unique lagoon]

so luffy has passive coc coating when in G5?

100% of the time?

[cyan wraith]

Most likely. G5 is so strong for a reason

[alpine trench]

What other sword techniques are there to be explained

[unique lagoon]

see right there again. we are never sure

in my head he activates it so he wont get drained

[dense haven]

but yea fire is not a good argument because anyone can do it in opverse

[cyan wraith]

Like Oden's sword techniques. The so called strongest sword techniques. How do they actually work? Isn't it just using more haki to make attacks stronger?

[wide star]

lol kinemon can just create fire on his sword out of nothing .. lol

[alpine trench]

If he can cut fire then he can cut the air itself to get fire

Simple logic

[minor sapphire]

cutting fire and using fire in attack is a different thing like sanji uses friction to generate fire while ace has his own fire but katakuri couldn't able to do that red rock thing lol

[cyan wraith]

Suppose Shanks swing two sword strikes with the same amount of haki. One divine departure and one basic haki slash. What technique actually make the divine departure stronger? How does techniques work?

[unique lagoon]

so is zoro also draining his own stamina cuz hes leaking CoC
does that even matter

[sleek plume]

There really isn’t anything to be explained there tho, we see him do it but it’s nothing more than just swinging his sword

[dense haven]

oda even retconned sanjis power from friction to power of love

[sleek plume]

Some characters can just do shit, Loki can also summon lightning with Ragnir lol

[cyan wraith]

If it just is swinging sword, they wouldn't be called techniques. It was literally said only Shanks could replicate divine departure.

[dense haven]

btw power of love is canon it can even delete kizarus lasers

[unique lagoon]

i just put power of love under willpower = haki

[minor sapphire]

thats reasonable for him lol

[sleek plume]

We see the technique get used on screen, and we can see that nothing special or mysterious is being applied, so we should be lead to believe that there isn’t actually anything else to it

[minor sapphire]

haki can nullify fruit power...

[alpine trench]

No it can’t

Haki can be overwhelmed by a fruit power

[tough igloo]

did bro create fire out of mochi ? lol

[cyan wraith]

If techniques doesn't matter, no one would be using techniques bruh. Divine departure is clearly stronger than another random sword swing with the same amount of haki input.

Now what makes it "divine departure" and how does it increase attack power is what Oda never explained.

[dense haven]

I can't prove it's haki but it wouldn't surprise me

[minor sapphire]

yeah i mean its same

[unique lagoon]

the first line
is he just talking about logia?

[dense haven]

haki making fire is the simplest explanation

[somber rivet]

Oda never explained the power of the little asistant of Mr. 3 in Little Garner

How she can do that using color

[tidal rune]

In general. Law negated Doc Q’s DF by overwhelming haki.

[unique lagoon]

i dont want to be that guy but bird cage

[minor sapphire]

df abilities

[cyan wraith]

Any df power can be affected by haki. It doesn't negate them, it fights them back.

[somber rivet]

It was not a DF

[distant vine]

I do wish Sanji still spun his leg and Luffy still pumped his limbs

I get why Oda stopped that but it was cool

[minor sapphire]

it was a df fruit i guess

[somber rivet]

It was confirmed not to be a DF

Also, based nickname

[unique lagoon]

actually nvm luffys strong Armament punch broke doffys haki strings

[distant vine]

Surprised someone can forget Miss Goldenweek's name in this server

I guess the Goldenweek fans have been more quiet nowadays

[dense haven]

do you think asura is just zoro spinning really fast

[sleek plume]

I’m not saying techniques don’t matter, but we can clearly see that there isn’t any real explanation as to how or why he’s able to burst his sword into flames. He can just do it

[unique lagoon]

there is

[cyan wraith]

But there are exceptions obviously. Like Barto's barrier. Haki does nothing to it.

[distant vine]

I kinda feel like its his willpower like hallucinating his opponents. Im still kinda unsure tho lol

[somber rivet]

To be fair, that was not her name. Is was her Coded Name

[unique lagoon]

i have ac rackpot theory how magic works in this verse and VP already revealed it

[minor sapphire]

just doing his techniques more quickly lol

[unique lagoon]

well.. then he got owned by shanks offscreened

[dense haven]

wifi haki can pierce I'm 1000% sure

[unique lagoon]

which is THE haki guy

[dense haven]

shanks upscale

[sleek plume]

[cyan wraith]

Haki can probably pass through it but i can't break the barrier for sure. Or Shanks just kick the barrier into the sea

[unique lagoon]

its the energy vegapunk was talking about thats everywhere
and its not freaking solar energy

cop out answer

theres a magic system and there is a source
i can even argue nika harvest that and power up robots

[minor sapphire]

that king tried to break the barrier i guess in dressrosa arc i guess?

[wide star]

shanks could’ve just blitzed barto before he had a chance to put up the barrier

[dense haven]

shanks upscale

[sleek plume]

Tbh, with all the weird shit Imu and the Goresei are seemingly able to do without devil fruit powers, I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s something along the lines of this

[unique lagoon]

barto could have blocked the shot yasopp shot also
then again he dint know it was comming

[cyan wraith]

Oden also couldn't even scratch the barrier. Oda himself said the barrier can't break. But it is a physical defense probably. I think even sound pass through it.

[tidal rune]

Yeah, he got FS after all. Katakuri upscale

[dense haven]

shanks is HIM

[somber rivet]

Barto can just be 24/7 with his shield

He will be intouchable

[unique lagoon]

why did the moon people went down to earth again?
the actual wording?

[wide star]

barto should use it 24/7 from now on lol who cares if he gets tired

[sleek plume]

They ran out of resources on the moon

[unique lagoon]

[dense rapids]

He was actually talking about Hydrogen

[minor sapphire]

double joint guy upscale

[cyan wraith]

Does df powers even use stamina lol.

[unique lagoon]

yeah no i aint buying these IRL energy source

[wide star]

Law , Luffy & Kid

[unique lagoon]

VP was also looking for what powered EMET iirc

[somber rivet]

For Law, yes

[dense haven]

its the power of the sun

[minor sapphire]

yes ex. law

[dense haven]

fusion

[unique lagoon]

he already made the motherflame
endless flame kinda
why did VP say he still wants to get these energy thats everywhere

[cyan wraith]

Meanwhile aokiji casually freeze the sea with zero trouble. Maybe some df doesn't require stamina

[tidal rune]

Didn’t Momo ran out of stamina by creating clouds

[dense rapids]

Hydrogen is the main component which creates suns

[wide star]

Kuzan doesn’t have to use much power to freeze the ocean surrounding the nature of his DF

[somber rivet]

Then there are the Logias, who even while sleeping are intangible

[distant vine]

My viewing of events is that Shanks shattered Barto's barrier like a soda can gets crushed in your hands

[cyan wraith]

Yeah that did happen. Another Kaido upscale

[distant vine]

I like this interpretation

[somber rivet]

So their DF are always active

[dense haven]

shanks upscale

[unique lagoon]

im connecting my idea with VP looking for what powered emet

[cyan wraith]

Well your view is wrong lol

[somber rivet]

The anime will do this, just like when they make Rayleigh negg the effect of Boa fruit

Somehow

[dense haven]

did he really do that

[wide star]

when did that happen .. i don’t remember that

[dense haven]

maybe boa is too old for him

[wide star]

i remember him pulling up to save boa but that’s it

[dense haven]

ray is a freak

[somber rivet]

In the anime the Marines who were petrified return to normal

[wide star]

he did say he likes them young

[somber rivet]

After Ray use Conqueror

[tidal rune]

Yeah

[cyan wraith]

Boa manually de-petrify them. Petrification is permanent

[dense haven]

I hate toei so much

[wide star]

they didn’t turn back after Ray CoC .. they remained stone and rayleigh asked her to turn them back

[cyan wraith]

Didn't toei let one of the scabbards, a df user swim lmao

[unique lagoon]

i needed to google examples of it

[somber rivet]

Oh, i saw it wrong.

[warm fossil]

man idk if I'll survive another half of elbaf without a single cross guild chapter

[somber rivet]

Yeah, my bad

I see the scene now

[warm fossil]

it's been more than han 100 chapters since the cross guild dropped and still not a single thing related to them has happened

[unique lagoon]

right crossguild still wont leave the island cuz they hate the new ship

[dense haven]

its just gonna be them sitting down again what's even the point

[unique lagoon]

sengoku wants to deal with crossguild also

seraphims vs crossguild soon

[warm sierra]

How lowly you think of t-bone

[warm fossil]

if I see one more panel of buggy sheninagas while not a thing has progressed I'll pay oda a visit

[tough igloo]

future new members of BB crew thanks to that bum Saturn

[dense haven]

l-bone rip bozo

[unique lagoon]

ngl i thought buggys island would have sunk already

look how close it is to the shore

[dense haven]

why doesnt s-gecko have the chad chin

that's not genetic

[unique lagoon]

its kid chin

[somber rivet]

So, Mihawk oneshoting all of them

[tough igloo]

that’s only for depressed moria lol

lunarian moria ain’t depressed after losing to kaido lol

[unique lagoon]

sure ill take that
let that mf do something

[dense haven]

he lost his chin to an injury that's not genetic lol

[unique lagoon]

they aint really ready with no limit string df S flamingo

and if their personality leaks again that be more hilarious

[dense haven]

can't believe I found another plot hole

[tough igloo]

hopefully these are all the seraphim and they don’t have anymore in the vault

[dense haven]

oda truly fell off

[unique lagoon]

i fear with york and garling behind science now

[tough igloo]

if they bring these out the world is truly cooked 😂

they DFs too broken to be seraphim’s

[unique lagoon]

york might make more but its a dollar store version

[somber rivet]

Wait for Blackbeard, Ace and even Rocks seraphins

You know it will happen

[tough igloo]

lmao there’s no coming back from that if the WG was dumb enough to make a lunarian davy clan member 😂🤦🏾‍♂️

[unique lagoon]

wait hold up VP can just make more law DF

green blood that shit = unlimited use of immortality

or endless youth

[tough igloo]

Oda gonna say something like
he never got the chance to .. since that fruit is too broken

[tidal rune]

S-Flamingo using Bird Cage coated with flames gonna go crazy

[unique lagoon]

S-Doffy will just parasite string every buggy pirate

[tough igloo]

i hope Oda creates a way for them to age up to adults fast

there’s probably some type of power out there that can do it

[unique lagoon]

then combo with S croc

[tough igloo]

aside from shinobu

[unique lagoon]

they did say they age quite fast ye?

[somber rivet]

Bonney

[unique lagoon]

they where made what? 2 years ago?

[dense rapids]

Germa soldiers took 5 years to grow to adults

[tough igloo]

yeah the vivre card said they appear to be 8 but are only born two years ago

[dense rapids]

Might be similar for the seraphim

[tidal rune]

Shinobu is a cheat code. Like she can age the soldiers of Germa en masse

[tough igloo]

for them to be adults by the final war , that process may need to be sped up

[unique lagoon]

so if they do age a bit faster over time you might just see this version

[tough igloo]

cause we in the final saga now

[unique lagoon]

chad moria also

[dense rapids]

Yea it’s kinda impossible for them to be adults in final war unless we get another timeskip

[unique lagoon]

its only been days right?

[dense rapids]

Years

[unique lagoon]

since last seraphim was seen

[dense rapids]

Oh yea

[unique lagoon]

maybe they wont age that fast

[dense rapids]

Yea I’m just expecting them to stay as kids

[unique lagoon]

only chance is time dealation elbaf theory

[warm fossil]

this is a diabolical look btw

[unique lagoon]

[dense rapids]

I still want time piece to be real

[tough igloo]

lol yeah if it took them 2 years to look 8 then it’s gonna take a little. while longer for adults .. but again this is one piece , Oda can always say there is some type of DF power or tech out there that can age them up faster

[dense rapids]

Just to see how the world has changed on the outside

[warm fossil]

time dealation theory in 2025 😭

[unique lagoon]

its still funny

oda will cutaway soon tm

[warm fossil]

man I need to get ready to say "in big 2026"

can't believe this shit

[tough igloo]

needs to cutaway to teach and garp on hachinosu

[unique lagoon]

long awaited conversation

[final trench]

“Join my crew, garp”

[warm fossil]

we need to cut away to anything honestly

get this guy Luffy off my screen

[final trench]

Uh oh

[ornate tartan]

what??

[tough igloo]

not trying to cut back to present day just to watch the bum ass holy knights embarrass the weaker straw hats including Jimbei lol if we cut back to that it needs to be zoro & sanji

[somber rivet]

We need Law before anything

[unique lagoon]

we cut away to sabo having demonic thoughts
his injury hurts for some reason
then cut to imu eye
he will be a demon soon

[final trench]

The niggas who have watched 1000 episodes for just luffy bouta kill you

[ornate tartan]

he hasn’t been on the screen for 4 months..😭😭

[warm fossil]

"law" 😭 💀 😭 💀 😭 💀

[somber rivet]

The fanboys and fangirls needs Law

[warm fossil]

thank god we got rid of him

[dense rapids]

We’re either cutting away after flashback is over or when arc ends

[dense haven]

pretty sure it's stated they age faster

[dense rapids]

Yea we know how fast they age

[tough igloo]

Oda just forced Law into the cover request even though he wasn’t asked for lol he already miss him or his wife does

[dense haven]

clones aging faster is a common trope anyway

[dense rapids]

And they won’t be adults if the final war is the current year

[unique lagoon]

8 years oldin 2 years
york can easy asspull a fast aging tech

or imu buff

[warm fossil]

he forced mihawk into a cover one chapter earlier and let me tell you he'd be happier if mihawk wasn't even in the manga

[dense haven]

your assuming they age at a flat rate oda can pull any bs he wants atp

but I think they still gonna stay as kids

[tough igloo]

“‘he’d be happier if mihawk wasn’t even in the manga “ 😂😂 damn

[grand flower]

Theyll probably stay kids to emphasize their potential humanity

[hasty sable]

I think they’ll be adults

[ornate tartan]

why would oda be happy if mihawk wasn’t in the manga?😂

[somber rivet]

Or just give King a New family

[distant vine]

He does miss when Law was in the manga cause it was better then yeah

[hasty sable]

They’re going to be fights

[unique lagoon]

i can see york making all the experiments faster like rushing them
cuz shes the greedy one
then it will just backfire on WG

[warm fossil]

there's like max 10 days in story until the final war ends idt they're getting older

[dense haven]

magic

[grand flower]

https://tenor.com/view/clj-gif-12397935080610808497

[tough igloo]

zoro final fight is lunarian upgraded mihawk cause Oda tired of OG Mihawk and don’t . know what to do with him lol

[unique lagoon]

we still dont know if luffy will go to mary geoise before laughtale

i doubt it tho

[tough igloo]

lunarian mihawk gets a black blade near the end to show he’s better than OG Mihawk and has way more potential

[hasty sable]

It’s the opposite direction

[warm fossil]

I'm gonna be honest I got no clue what's gonna happen after elbaf

[unique lagoon]

ik but people seam to like luffy invading imu now

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-moment-rat-pet-rat-rat-art-animated-gif-26164479

Theres a hint

[warm fossil]

I wish

[hasty sable]

Imu is going to invade Laugh Tale instead

[warm fossil]

imu had 800 years to do that why wait

[unique lagoon]

i gues proxy imu would be enough for fans vs luffy

[thin quest]

the reason the holy land is on fire is because Arlong is leading a slave rebellion from within becoming Fisher Tiger 2.0

[final trench]

Does imu even know where that is

[ornate tartan]

the final war isn’t gonna be something that’s gonna be easily predictable by trolls and haters

[hasty sable]

Because now someone is going to find it

[dense haven]

the seraphim can be sent to elbaf so they can experience time dilation with everyone else

[tough igloo]

yeah Oda can really go anywhere after this arc since it feels like elbaf kicks off the final war imo

[warm fossil]

someone already found it

[final trench]

Island to island war

[hasty sable]

But they were too early

[unique lagoon]

oda better reveal why giants love nika so much
they dont even know why

[dense haven]

oda also doesn't know why

[unique lagoon]

library is burning
robin dint read all the harley text

[tough igloo]

more than likely what they’ll do is find Vivi since that was a plot point in the beginning of elbaf

though eventually luffy needs to find out about Garp

[hasty sable]

It’s okay Saul read every single book

[warm fossil]

Nika freed them from being slaves of the ancient kingdom (yeah the ancient kingdom were the bad guys)

[unique lagoon]

the owl will speak with chopper

[dense haven]

the bird is gone 🦀

[unique lagoon]

the owl should be able to talk to chopper that was bullshit

[dense haven]

rotisserie owl

[hasty sable]

https://tenor.com/view/nah-nope-no-nodding-head-nodding-gif-16680845812377345284

[dense haven]

elbaf fried owl

[grand flower]

Was he unable to?

[tough igloo]

Gaban : Luffy, i’m sorry to hear about your grandpa

Luffy : huh ?! what do you mean ? i haven’t talked to him in years

Gaban : oh .. so you don’t know

[unique lagoon]

you telling me these guys was ontop of the world with advance tech?

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/bFH3f.gif

[unique lagoon]

mixing with other races making joyboy

[warm fossil]

I'm telling you these guys built the ancient kingdom

[hasty sable]

Luffy remembers Marineford and years of childhood abuse
“You know, I think he’s got this.”

[warm fossil]

and not of their free will

[unique lagoon]

so this is saying imu wanted the AK army

[dense haven]

yall liked the chapter?

[unique lagoon]

old man dint really say yes

[tough igloo]

Jimbei: “ well the papers said he also beat up your friend law and destroyed his ship & kidnapped your friend Koby & almost killed your friend Boa after he invaded amazon lily & he kidnapped big mom daughter pudding who helped you all escape whole cake “

[warm fossil]

0 chance Luffy knows who pudding is

[unique lagoon]

did pudding fed him?

he will if she did

[latent hamlet]

I think they met once or twice right?

At the start

[tough igloo]

i’m sure somebody on the crew will lol pudding likely wouldn’t even be needed to be mentioned .. Law Koby Boa Garp is enough for Luffy to get pissed lol

[proud pivot]

What's crazy to me is that Garp punched San Juan wolf who is much larger than these two and Loki with a single punch without even using Haki, what a beast 🔥

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-d-garp-garp-fist-punched-san-juan-wolf-garp-vs-sanjuan-wolf-garp-one-piece-gif-1999928281140671282

[unique lagoon]

well thats wolf soo

hes just a normal dumb giant with a df

[dense haven]

garp is pk level

[unique lagoon]

i like the idea that wolf was a former loki pirate

[tough igloo]

Garp vs San Juan is exactly what Shanks vs Loki about to look like lol loki fans seem to forgot that nothing exceeds the shanks glaze when it’s comes to oda

[dense haven]

loki fans ain't ready

[tough igloo]

lmao they gonna be calling Oda a fraud

[unique lagoon]

also do people think lokis eye is somekind of power buff

[proud pivot]

nah, Loki has a 2.6 B bounty without even having territories and crew, just solo lol

[tough igloo]

that don’t mean shit

[warm fossil]

*shiryu level

[tough igloo]

when it comes to shanks

[proud pivot]

it does

[tough igloo]

it doesn’t

[hasty sable]

Think Oda’s really going to go the route of Ark Maxim being designed after Uranus

[tough igloo]

Kid had 3 B and just fought 2 yonkos

[proud pivot]

you don't one shot a yonko lvl character

[tough igloo]

and still got one tapped

who tf said he was yonko level lmao

[graceful belfry]

Would be pretty cool

Muh parallels

[vestal mural]

wtf. Archer is back

[unique lagoon]

so rock wanted herald to eat the DF cuz he was the perfect fit
what if rocks was missing info and it required someone with lokis eyes

[hasty sable]

Yeah I’ve thought about it before but never liked it that much. Could be cool though.

[proud pivot]

Kidd's bounty is disingenuous tbh, he should be much lower

[dense haven]

yea but have you considered shanks is HIM

[proud pivot]

he isn't one shottting loki fs

[hasty sable]

Whoa Mip is back

[vestal mural]

Dude. Literally every old member I mention lately comes back

[vestal heath]

Good morning

[proud pivot]

That's a braindead take

[dense haven]

!archer

[tropic nova]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/486983010025996299/700441323983077426/unknown.png

[proud pivot]

Loki literally said he has conquerors capable of beating HKS

[vestal mural]

The one and only, baby

[wide star]

as a Loki fan myself , i can easily admit that Loki is gonna get embarrassed by Shanks if Oda shows that flashback .. if you not Luffy or Teach , you not gonna look good vs Shanks lol that’s just how it is

[hasty sable]

Shanks oneshots everybody

[vestal mural]

Mihawk >

[proud pivot]

disingenuous + HC

[hasty sable]

Mihawk was studying the blade

[grand flower]

Shanks probably cheated

[wide star]

i’m not about to be delusional and think he’s gonna look good vs shanks

[graceful belfry]

Trvthnvke

[wide star]

if you ain’t joyboy 2.0 , mihawk or davy jones 2.0 then your cooked lol

[vestal mural]

You okay bro?

[wide star]

oda is gonna have shanks embarrass you

[proud pivot]

hell naw, Mihawk slams him

[hasty sable]

I do think Loki will probably not be as strong as Kid

[proud pivot]

tf is wrong with this fandom

[hasty sable]

Only just

[proud pivot]

Kaido beats him

[wide star]

i didn’t say shit about mihawk losing , i said your not gonna look good if you aren’t those 3

and Loki ain’t

[hasty sable]

Shanks could reasonably defeat Kaido I think

His bounty is not that far from his

[dense haven]

ez

[proud pivot]

look what you said lol

[ornate tartan]

this is the kind of people that consume our manga

this the equivalent of saying Whitebeard slams Roger

[dense haven]

shanks is HIM

[hasty sable]

Shanks is Roger-lite

[wide star]

you can’t read ? i said if you aren’t those 3 then your cooked

[wet condor]

Davy is right lol

[wide star]

loki ain’t those 3

[vestal mural]

He did defeat him before marineford

[proud pivot]

kaido?

[wide star]

Kaido is out of the story

[fluid cedar]

Lokis the next imu

[hasty sable]

Did he defeat Kaido or just make him turn around

[wet condor]

Oh hold on let me see what y'all are talking about lol

[wide star]

i’m talking about actual possible matchups for shanks

[dense haven]

kaido is also a fraud

[wide star]

not ones that ain’t gonna happen

[distant vine]

The day Oda shows what Shanks did to Kaido before Marineford

[wet condor]

Oh vs Shanks

[distant vine]

[wet condor]

Yeah that's right lol

[vestal mural]

Kaido tryna be haki man so bad but he knows shanks is him

[dense haven]

shanks sent kaido home crying

[wet condor]

Do you ever frequent piratefolk?

[wide star]

Loki fans expecting Loki vs Shanks to be like Rocks vs Harald when in reality it’s gonna be like Luffy vs hajrudin

[graceful belfry]

Shanks got Kaido all boozed up and simply made the false promise to personally fight him at a later date

[fluid cedar]

Hajrudin is the ussop of his family

[proud pivot]

you didn't contextualize the statement, you said if a particular characters isn't Joyboy, Davy jones 2.0, mihawk, then they are cooked, you didn't mention, past present and future, also you didn't mention Imu?

[hasty sable]

Loki does things to people

[wet condor]

I'll give Loki a better showing that Haj. He may get a few attacks off

[ornate tartan]

he’s getting cooked

[wide star]

Loki will still be very strong though , don’t get it wrong .. he’s just gonna unfortunately be a hype tool for shanks cause he’s not one of those 3 people i named

[distant vine]

Imu when that Joyboy level COC hits 😭

[wet condor]

Shanks will come out spotless though

[hasty sable]

He’s the Yamato of Elbaf. He’s going to look good regardless.

[vestal mural]

Still can’t believe joy boy haki is a thing. That shit is beyond broken

[proud pivot]

Loki was pretty much spotless tied in those chains too

[dense haven]

loki is getting one shot

[wide star]

yamato never had to fight shanks , beside didn’t yamato stalemate wit Ace in her flashback lmao

[proud pivot]

Brainrotted fandom

[ornate tartan]

Kidd might return

[hasty sable]

Loki getting Domi Reversed would be the funniest thing Oda could do though

[graceful belfry]

It’s happening

[wide star]

that feels kinda likely at this point

[dense haven]

it kind does

[wide star]

domi loki will be the main fight for luffy in elbaf imo

[vestal mural]

Ace upscale

[proud pivot]

he's lurking in the outskirts of elbaf, if he didn't die(possibly, shii will look bad if he did😭) he's returning at Elbaf

[native seal]

#also-manga is into powerscaling a lot these days

[dense haven]

would be funny as hell if loki is just the punching bag for the entire arc

[wide star]

lol Oda will always try to find a way to upscale Ace post death

[fallen meteor]

Loki is very domi reversible at the moment

[wide star]

Luffy will be the first we see to turn someone back without killing them and it’ll be Loki

fake sun god vs real sun god

[frail cradle]

can ppl resist domi reversi?

[graceful belfry]

I’d Reversi loki’s Domi any day of the week

[fallen meteor]

up to oda
Like Rocks kinda did for a bit

[vestal mural]

Kinky

[frail cradle]

you cant argue, xebec mustve HAD a strong will

[hasty sable]

Luffy freeing Loki from his cuffs only for him to become a demon and destroy Elbaf

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-d-luffy-whistle-one-piece-anime-gif-16175051

[dense haven]

rocks didn't do shit

imu was just letting him yap

[wide star]

Hajrudin lands the final blow on domi loki lmao loki fandom would lose it

[dense haven]

same thing with the flower room

[frail cradle]

rocks did a lot of things

[graceful belfry]

I’m a real sucker for burly Nordic men, what can I say

[ornate tartan]

Hajrudin should get some good moments

but cmon this is overkill😂

[fallen meteor]

This cant happen we'd lose loke 20 users

[vestal mural]

At this point this is so real

[hasty sable]

Goda

[proud pivot]

The guy who has been hyped to have conquerors to beat Holy knights and grab an actual wincon against these regen merchants will be a punching bag?
truly delusional takes

[hasty sable]

Hajrudin should get a chance to beat up Loki

[wide star]

lmao knowin Oda , he’s gonna give Hajrudin some feats here in elbaf that people will complain “ mess up the power scaling because hajrudin shouldn’t be this strong since he was weak in dressrosa “ lol

[graceful belfry]

They’re not ready for the Hajrudin upscale

[dense haven]

that thought makes me physically ill

[fallen meteor]

Imagine loki dies and haj gets his legendary fruit

[fallen meteor]

Names his first son with Mosa "Loki" too idk

[frail cradle]

why loki just cant cut off his legs and fly, like shiki?

[ornate tartan]

needs the float fruit for that

[hasty sable]

Wonder how Hajrudin feels about Luffy asking Loki to join his crew but not him LOL

[dense haven]

hajrudin glaze is the worst

[ornate tartan]

he’s alr in the grand fleet so probably not that mad

[graceful belfry]

He’d need one of the 5 devil fruits that allow flight

[wide star]

Hajrudin awakens CoC like his father and defeats Domi Loki lol

[hasty sable]

Luffy didn’t even WANT Hajrudin

[fallen meteor]

Is this even a thing
We just have that one insane strenght feat

[hasty sable]

At Dressrosa he was like “nah” lol

[frail cradle]

there’s 8 already

actually 9

[graceful belfry]

Yup. Thats is indeed one of the many Pell jokes

[fallen meteor]

Uhhh kaido cheats and

[graceful belfry]

Thank you for explaining it to the class

[frail cradle]

ok 8

[wide star]

does green bull fruit count ? lol

[dense haven]

his fans are milking that weight fear like crazy

[proud pivot]

This is why Davys will bitch the figarlands

[tranquil blade]

tbf that weight is like the same weight as the Eiffel Tower so it is relatively impressive

[wide star]

garling probably used to be telling Shamrock nightmare stories about the Davy Clan specifically Rocks lol

[hasty sable]

Hajrudin’s strength feat is ridiculous enough that him punching out Loki is not unbelievable to me

[wide star]

lmao true , the meltdown from some of the community would be hilarious too

[proud pivot]

shamrock is a hypetool for Loki if he ain't as strong as Shanks if I may presume, the beef has been established

[hasty sable]

I need a Loki meltdown

[wide star]

that’s all i wanna see lmao loki fans been talking so much shit about hajrudin bum ass so if he did something crazy to loki that would be too funny

[frail cradle]

hey

how would king’s hybrid form look

[fallen meteor]

We saw it

[dense haven]

id rather have you guys glazing the kings punch

[frail cradle]

we never see it somehow

[wide star]

and since their brothers , i ain’t putting anything past Oda lol

[frail cradle]

where

[fallen meteor]

He has like wing arms

[frail cradle]

anime?

[fallen meteor]

Theres a panel

[frail cradle]

this?

[graceful belfry]

Luffy and Haj vs. Domi Loki to parallel God Valley

[frail cradle]

how come king loses his hands like that

[fallen meteor]

Yee

[hearty shore]

Cuz that's how pterodactyls are built

[wide star]

G5 Luffy , G5 Bonney & Hajrudin do a combo attack to send Imu back to mariejois (like they did Mars) after Hajrudin & Luffy defeats Loki lol

[frail cradle]

is this how eagles are built?

Pell did NOT lose his arms

[fallen meteor]

Oda has his favorites

[dense haven]

cringe boo this man

[ornate tartan]

Luffy is gonna have the biggest Haki bloom this arc probably

[proud pivot]

Hajrudin ain't doin shit lol, he doesn't even use base haki, he ain't doin shit to DR loki
The wings and the future PK is gonna stop him and he may land a symbolic punch or two to Loki
Why ngas hyping up Hajrudin?

[frail cradle]

his favorites gets an arm in hybrid

[tidal rune]

In reality, we’ll only get Hajrudin vs. Nightmare Loki

[ornate tartan]

if he fights Imu for more then 4 pages with Imu actually engaging him that’s a crazy Luffy upscale

Imu didn’t even try in God Valley

[proud pivot]

there's lvls to this shit

[frail cradle]

Midrudin

[ornate tartan]

fuckin black blob needs to go

[frail cradle]

gungnir was mid at best

[graceful belfry]

I’m doing it because it’s funny to get a reaction out of people who hate Hajrudin. Although, knowing Oda, the possibility of Hajrudin doing something pivotal during the conflict is extremely likely given his importance and relevance in this arc

[wide star]

SBS after elbaf Arc

Q: Oda- san ! how was hajrudin able to defeat Loki in elbaf , he seemed pretty weak in dressrosa

O: ahh glad you asked ! well Hajrudin is also the son of the great king harald , so deep down he always had the strength to match his little brother Loki

[dense haven]

reminder imu in elbaf is only 5% of their power

[frail cradle]

ngl for a sec i thought this is legit by oda

[proud pivot]

That mfer got clowned by Dressrossa luffy and Loki was running hands with Red hair and defeating him made shanks an emperor, its not even a comparison unles oda pulls up a mickey plot for Harjrudin🤣

[hearty shore]

Me when "little brother" is the equivalent of the 7'1" guy your girl tells you not to worry about

[woeful moth]

tbh the real answer will probably be about Loki holding back because they're brothers

[dense haven]

id much rather have usopp defeating loki than bumrudjin

[woeful moth]

Loki letting Hajrudin defeat him

[wide star]

lmao the fact that they’re brothers and the entire flashback loki was bullying hajrudin is exactly why he’s gonna pull the Mickey plot for Hajrudin when he does something to Loki lol

[proud pivot]

knowing oda he may do it

[fallen meteor]

I think this gets you a warning

[proud pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/pfft-trying-not-to-laugh-laughing-holding-laugh-covering-laugh-gif-10899551814881068905

[fallen meteor]

Watch out lol

[dense haven]

marin snitching

[spark canopy]

What??

[dense haven]

rat

[fallen meteor]

What i didn't @ anybody

[fallen meteor]

Its true uhh rule 2 or something

[warm sierra]

If Hajrudin wasnt born on Elbaf, DR Loki vs immune Hajrudin could have gone hard

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/uvi7qhY4pOw.gif

[spark canopy]

Ok 🆗

[woeful moth]

yeah it would be worse if Marina didn't say anything hahaha

[proud pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/shanks-d-rat-snitch-devil-gif-10652128958513752883

[fallen meteor]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G5FaPyvXsAAkRr0.gif

[fallen meteor]

This is me after your accusations

[proud pivot]

true form shanks:

[tranquil blade]

Wait I've seen this gif before

[ashen perch]

Dressrosa was basically a thousand years ago, everybody's way stronger, will be the same with Hajrudin

[fallen meteor]

Im stealing from twitter

[vestal heath]

This gif still scares me

[fallen meteor]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G5I4TQzbIAE2N0e.gif

[fallen meteor]

This one too

[azure wasp]

You guys not ready for hajrudin to awake his ancient gaint gene

[proud pivot]

In OP timeline it might not even be a year + no confirmed Hajrudin fights where his haki might have bloomed

[fallen meteor]

Im still holding hope for some valkyries coming down from the heaven realm

[ashen perch]

Doesn't matter, he'll be stronger

[proud pivot]

cool HC

[fallen meteor]

Elbaf's secret people idk

[ashen perch]

Not headcanon, Oda confirmed it already

[proud pivot]

Oda will introduce a lot of characters and he will just sideline them for the rest of the arcs as he always does

[ashen perch]

Every Grand Fleet member will keep growing in strength until they eventually cause an incident of historic proportions along with the SHs

Argue with the manga idk

[hazy echo]

https://tenor.com/view/death-puss-in-boots-pick-it-up-pencil-meme-gif-9024998142821769028

[proud pivot]

Cool HC

no haki blooms

no base haki feats

[proud pivot]

and you mean he can beat this mfer?

[ashen perch]

"headcanon"

[proud pivot]

bro is legit saying he has Conquerors that can grab a wincon against Holy knights

[ashen perch]

No

[proud pivot]

ok then your good

[graceful belfry]

Pre-return of bangs Robin spotted

[ornate tartan]

does that panel kind of soft confirm there was holy knights at the castle incident too

[ashen perch]

He'll be a lot more powerful than his Dressrosa self, that's all. Maaaybe enough to beat a Domi Reversi'd Loki with tons of help from Luffy, we'll see

[ornate tartan]

or did he fight them at another time

[warm sierra]

Buffing others is the next gear5 power up

[proud pivot]

All I know Loki genuinely killing Domi harald will help my current gen agenda

[warm sierra]

Buffy

[proud pivot]

cuz shanks powercliffss the entire Old gen then

and genuinely comparing loki to hajrudin is dumb asf

[ashen perch]

Loki didn't do it 1v1, and there's a lot we dont know about it in general

[proud pivot]

like some people were doing

[fallen meteor]

How did she know

[pseudo gulch]

What if Hajrudin trained really really hard the past few months

[fallen meteor]

Crazy feat

[graceful belfry]

#Yeah

I’m prepping myself for Luffy to have some sort of similar capability that applies the opposite effect of Domi Reversi while also providing extra strength

[proud pivot]

gaban basically confirmed that he didn't know shit abt what happened, so he and shanks defo didn't help

Rest jarul is basically a 5y/o lilin victim and the guards are ass and do not have COC, so Loki might have beaten Domi harald fair and square

[fallen meteor]

Romi Deversi

[graceful belfry]

Peak character design

[graceful belfry]

Lmao it’s gonna have some silly name knowing Luffy

[fallen meteor]

Gomu gomu no dawn flip

[graceful belfry]

Or maybe it’s as simple as the form itself being enough to revert possessed characters back to normal

Drums of liberation or whatevs

[ashen perch]

Not talking about Gaban and Shanks. The guards were all stout warriors and with Jarul they atleast helped, Harald may have let himself get killed too

[proud pivot]

You saw rocks right?

He wasn't holding back fighting garp and roger

Domi reversi is broken, you can't bypass it unless you have Nika and Yami yami no mi

[warm sierra]

VOAT probably also wont come into play

[graceful belfry]

The Blackbeard hype is fully real

[proud pivot]

and the guards and jarul are genuinely ass

[frail cradle]

VOAT isnt a fighting ability

its communication

[ashen perch]

Harald may have died while he was still resisting it, who knows, just saying we don't know a lot

[warm sierra]

It helps garps and rogers resolve to fight though

[fallen meteor]

Me sending "on your left!!" messages to my opponents while attacking their right

[proud pivot]

Domi harald prolly won't have VOAT tho

it would be more tragic

mfer won't be able to say shit and charge at everyone

[pine scaffold]

Loki 1v1 Domi Harald and winning would kill the story

it cannot happen

[proud pivot]

Oda has to establish current gen>old gen

[pine scaffold]

Not yet

[fallen meteor]

This is so funny

[proud pivot]

ts is just ridiculous how overhyped old gen is

[fallen meteor]

Unironically people trying to argue thst Loki is > garp and Roger at GV

[proud pivot]

when shanks literally has done evrything roger did but way better

[pine scaffold]

yeah its disgusting

[ashen perch]

It would be a Xebec downscale if Loki actually pulled that off

[pseudo gulch]

Wano was a whole arc about the new gen taking over the old one

[pine scaffold]

the entire story gets ruined if it happened

[proud pivot]

it would be an entire old gen downscale

powercreep at its finest

[pine scaffold]

Roger wouldnt mean shit anymore

[ashen perch]

Not really, only Rocks

[proud pivot]

DR rocks>roger any version

[ashen perch]

everyone else could have gotten stronger after GV, easily

[fallen meteor]

I still think the DR has different powers if its Imu doing it or one of thr HKs like the davies of GV

[ashen perch]

But Rocks... He stays at his level

[graceful belfry]

God, I love your knack for hyperbole

[proud pivot]

feats to back it up to prove they are stronger than DR rocks?

[pseudo gulch]

I think every major pirate did

So Roger, Kaido, Big Mom and WB

[pine scaffold]

I love it lol

[proud pivot]

shanks will powercliff every old gen

its a fact

just accept it

[ornate tartan]

stronger then base rocks maybe. Domi Reversi Rocks though?? that’s pushing it😂😂

[ashen perch]

I don't think it matters, we haven't seen their primes

[ornate tartan]

xebec was a monster in demon form

[pseudo gulch]

You think he's gonna be stronger than Roger and Rocks?

[proud pivot]

they can't prove it, they say what lets them sleep peacefully

[warm sierra]

The mighty arm

[frail cradle]

exactly

[fallen meteor]

Not his mighty arm

[pseudo gulch]

Insande Goda foreshadowing

[fading dove]

Yami yami can nullify domi reversi?

[tranquil blade]

I thought his mighty arm would be unbeatable

[fallen meteor]

Not that we know

[pine scaffold]

Rocks getting powercliffed the same arc hes introduced in

I'd quit reading

[fading dove]

Could that also be why he wants laws fruit?

[proud pivot]

That's imu for ya

[urban lodge]

It would be hilarious ngl

[ashen perch]

Loki 1v1-ing Domi Harald just means that Rocks wasnt that strong and it'd actually be so funny

[fallen meteor]

[pine scaffold]

its shit writing lmao

[tranquil blade]

If Loki solos Harald then he probably is

[pine scaffold]

but yall defending it

[urban lodge]

Maybe Loki should solo Domi Reversi Harald

[pine scaffold]

thats what im saying

[pseudo gulch]

Why are you saying powercliffed and not powercrept

[pine scaffold]

that cannot happen

[proud pivot]

Loki genuinely kills domi harald and Oda my life is yours

[pseudo gulch]

I'm and old man I need words I'm comfortable with

[proud pivot]

never cared abt old gen

Kaido vs luffy just proves there is not much gap

[pseudo gulch]

Kaido vs 20 people and Luffy you mean

[proud pivot]

ppl have been overhyping this shit for generations

[tranquil blade]

Well there's still people saying Kaido is like 67 times stronger than Luffy

[proud pivot]

current gen gotta be over old gen and shanks will prove it

[fallen meteor]

I am rage

[ashen perch]

The only ones that gotta worry is Rocks fans

[pseudo gulch]

Is it possible to ban only specific characters from specific users?

[graceful belfry]

Harald will resist it similarly to how Xebec did and allow Loki a window of opportunity to end his life

[ashen perch]

Everyone else is safe, its fine

[proud pivot]

DR rocks>roger anyday

[graceful belfry]

Shrimple 🦐

[pseudo gulch]

If so I need anyone to ban the numbers 6 and 7 so that avery can't use them anymore

[ashen perch]

No evidence

[proud pivot]

can't prove shii stay crying

[ashen perch]

There's no evidence either way

[proud pivot]

what are roger feats?

I will give you xebec and DR xebec's feats

[pseudo gulch]

Being the only person on par with the strongest man in the world

[proud pivot]

can't argue nonsense here, ppl are really insecure abt their old gen hype agenda

[pine scaffold]

Loki cannot be that strong

[ashen perch]

He won't be

[pseudo gulch]

"fuck it Imu can make anything they want appear out of their ass why not"
-Oda probably

[proud pivot]

"tRuSt Me BrO🤓🤓"

[ashen perch]

You're doing the same, I'm just saying we gotta let it play out

[proud pivot]

Imu is just 8-9 tiers above the new gen lol, how is luffy and BB gonna catch up if y'all overhype this old farts

[frail cradle]

i just realize his mighty arm was 2x serious victim

[pseudo gulch]

Oda hates left arms for some reason

[tranquil blade]

Xebec is like the Wilt Chamberlain of the old gen

[graceful belfry]

Genuinely one of my favorite aspects of the character. So many possibilities for funny ass pages like the shot gun one

Deadass evoked memories of Joseph Joestar

[frail cradle]

a sawoff shotgun conjured from a magic book wasnt in any of the fanfiction

[urban lodge]

The shotgun is one of the best moments in the series

[proud pivot]

true, he didn't even pull out the grimmoire to beat the top 6 in GV 😭

[barren token]

only 4 more days until chapter

[stone terrace]

Harald went full pacifist after he pulled out his horns so he got weaker

[pseudo gulch]

The Imu glaze is turning you into sb

[ashen perch]

I don't get sports but I assume this means he was the strongest in an era where nobody was THAT powerful

[pseudo gulch]

Tragic to witness

[stone terrace]

Thats an easy fix

[frail cradle]

it was like reading fanfiction ngl

[pine scaffold]

why u making it sound like a virus

🥀

[pseudo gulch]

No disrespect of course

[ornate tartan]

why yall against Loki being OP

[frail cradle]

garp & roger was monster. even old garp is a monster

[pine scaffold]

I do not like the idea of Loki > Rocks

[ornate tartan]

If Hajrudin fights Loki that’s cheese

idc😂😂

in any shape or form

[pine scaffold]

this random ass character who got introduced last year

[tranquil blade]

Kind of but it also means that it's hard to prove Xebec was all that even if he was

[fallen meteor]

?

[pine scaffold]

is somehow stronger than the mighty Davy D. Xebec

[ashen perch]

GV Garp and Roger werent quite that

[tranquil blade]

Now Domi Xebec is different, that's like a different character

[pseudo gulch]

Technically he was introduced in WCI ☝️🤓

[ashen perch]

2017

[graceful belfry]

Nerds

[proud pivot]

better characterization that half of the straw hats btw

[pine scaffold]

Nah we aint doing that shit

Loki was introduced properly in Elbaf

[frail cradle]

are you saying GV Garp & Roger wasnt a monster?

[pine scaffold]

start coping lol

[graceful belfry]

Can’t wait til YC’s theory comes true

I’ll be belly laughing

[pseudo gulch]

Which one

[fallen meteor]

Skelemom?

[tranquil blade]

Burn scar man is probably like stronger than Rocks too

[frail cradle]

i think even in Gv, they were both monsters