also-manga

[ashen perch]

No, Voice Chat baby

[dense rapids]

Idk

[glass plume]

time travel

[ashen perch]

Toki exists kinda

[glass plume]

Nami god of time

[dense rapids]

There’s always a mirror

Momo was first who’s next

[somber rivet]

At this point, anything is possible

[dense rapids]

Backwards time travel

[dense haven]

I wouldn't trust oda

[somber rivet]

Time Travel. Time Distortion. Buttlerfly effect. Back to the Future shenanigans. Stein Gate Shenanigans. Endgame Shenanigans

You say and all that kind of things will happen

Maybe

Probably

Who knows

[grand flower]

https://tenor.com/view/supernatural-dean-zoom-dramatic-what-gif-5252554

[dense rapids]

There’s def gonna be some of it involved with laugh tale and the one piece imo

[dense haven]

I mean sure why not

atp Im in the ride for the slander coming out of that

[dense rapids]

I think joy boy actually saw the future like emet saving luffy and the promised day that’s about to happen

[trim lily]

all of one piece was fated to happen

[dense rapids]

Or has it already happened

[fallen meteor]

joyboy probably saw the entire story already
everything that was going to happen all in one piece

[tranquil blade]

Who is that in the corner

[sage temple]

Idk

[fallen meteor]

why is mansherry there

[sage temple]

I think a tontatta

[honest garden]

Mansherry fake fans

[sudden dock]

Stupid question: Why can't a Kuja Empress find another man to love if the first guy is not interested in her. Like Gloriosa and Roger or Hancock and Luffy

[sage temple]

Loki looks sick in that art style tho

[honest garden]

They're not in love with them

[fallen meteor]

ehh its like irl when you go crazy over someone

[sudden dock]

@fallen meteor still is it that hard for them to stop simping

[dense rapids]

Luffy is Joy Boy

[tranquil blade]

Yeah

[dense haven]

kujas are born to be simps

[glass plume]

it's almost as if they're related

[urban lodge]

I saw a really dumb twitter post today complaining about how Roger looked there

[steel stirrup]

"You yo daddy's boy!"

[dark nymph]

rouge's genes didnt even try

[ornate tartan]

you know there are real people who are complaining about why they look so similar😂

[steel stirrup]

Look like Roger spit bro out

[glass plume]

there's people who think that rocks are tasty too

nothing surprises me anymore

[urban lodge]

And they were using the fanmade completed version of that film red sketch Oda made to say that Oda retconned his appearance in god valley

[dense haven]

people been complaining about acefied roger for quite while

[glass plume]

it's like people don't know that he is the father of Ace

[steel stirrup]

Fuck em

[glass plume]

maybe they didn't read the manga in it's entirety

maybe they just decided to watch some stupid ass brainrot reels

[proud pivot]

What was the secret that crocodile so scared of ivankov leakin?

[trim lily]

we dunno

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[dense haven]

they also complained about his drip

[proud pivot]

That croco was a girl?

[glass plume]

they're jealous

[trim lily]

rip nosehair roger

[formal wagon]

crocodile commited tax fraud

[steel stirrup]

Oh so you're aware

[dark nymph]

crocomom (still alive)

[rich hornet]

Crocodile is Kuina

[proud pivot]

Yeah but isn’t it just a theory?

[grand flower]

I think Joy boy knew to make the Haki only hostile to the government characters because he’s Luffy himself

[proud pivot]

idk if it’s real

[steel stirrup]

Thats the one retcon i hate

Nose hair > mustache

[proud pivot]

Oh fair

[dense rapids]

Makes sense

[olive sigil]

They are

[grand flower]

You’re refreshing

[glass plume]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-season-1-pizza-delivery-spongebob-pizza-delivery-gif-2209592161385485267

[dense haven]

ginney should've been luffys mom ngl

[grand flower]

@gritty shuttle

[formal wagon]

i've BEEN saying luffy is joyboy turned into a babyy and sent into the future

[trim lily]

famously you have

[ashen perch]

Since we never saw a young Roger before Oda decided to make him Ace's father, the late decision still fits in real nicely. I don't know what people are complaining about

[trim lily]

its a great theory mailbox

[grand flower]

Sumn like that

[dense rapids]

But if Luffy is Joy Boy then what will be needed to break the Time Loop?

Because we know Joy boy loses

[formal wagon]

i agree tbh

[glass plume]

jealousy shows itself in many ways

[fallen meteor]

of course rocks are tasty

have you all not tasted salt

[glass plume]

i mean a rock from the street

[ashen perch]

Roger is about to get ultra sick and age rapidly too, so that also makes sense

[prisma yacht]

Salt is salty not tasty

[dense haven]

ur salty

[glass plume]

"i thought he was the father of Ace, why doesn't he look like him?.."

i swear people will say it

[grand flower]

Nah, Joy Boy losing will be revealed to be Luffy returning to the present. Imu was able to rule for 800 years csuse of that and Luffy will finally bring the Dawn in the present

[ashen perch]

And we still see some resemblance with Ace at the earliest point we see him during Oden's flashback, his condition just keeps on deteriorating from that point on

[dense rapids]

“Where did you go Joy Boy. You were here”

[ashen perch]

Lmao

[royal orchid]

so guys is the new episode worth 22 minutes of my life

[trim lily]

probably not

[glass plume]

not sure, haven't watched it

[grand flower]

@ashen perch did you see this

[ashen perch]

People do sometimes get mad over anything, criticism shouldn't be so silly

Yea

[grand flower]

I think Joy boys promise will be revealed to be Luffy promising to handle everything in the future/present

[gritty shuttle]

[glass plume]

it's barely even critisicsm anymore

[grand flower]

And that’s why emet amd Zunesha thought it was literally Joy boy at first

[royal orchid]

it's pretty hard to recognize someone in the one piece world after 20 years I'd say especially if you're both cyborgs

[ashen perch]

See the problem with this idea now Shuron, is that I don't think Luffy is Shanks's ancestor

So sadly, this can't work out anymore

[grand flower]

Yeah they look entirely different and don’t use their birthnames

[dense rapids]

Adult luffy returns to the present after his 100 years in the Void Century

[glass plume]

Joyboy having that iconic red hair would be sick

[grand flower]

Shanks’ ancestor is Figarland Binks

[glass plume]

jokes on you Shuron, Binks is Joyboy

[ashen perch]

Its Joyboy, from the mother's side

[grand flower]

I feel like Luffy lived those 100 years because beint displaced in time means he doesnt age

[fallen meteor]

Gear 6 red haired luffy soon

[dense rapids]

We good

[ashen perch]

Its true

[tranquil blade]

Shanks's ancestor is Figarland Redbeard

[trim lily]

he finally unlocks the shanks gene

[proud pivot]

Fr?

[odd rune]

https://tenor.com/view/interstellar-no-no-no-gif-15094791629266170630

iykyk

[grand flower]

Binks made Joy boys ’s favorite sake

[dense rapids]

Luffy getting sent back in time would be like the start of wano

[glass plume]

Joyboy made Joyboys favorite sake

[fallen meteor]

Are you not caught up

[dense rapids]

Joy boy only became the first pirate because he was a pirate in the future

[proud pivot]

isn’t gear 6 gonna be luffy a original nika form like Saturn said, he didn’t want luffy changing back into his original form WHILE he was in gear 5

[sage temple]

This better be how the volume cover's looking for 114

[proud pivot]

NO WTF?? The is not fear 6 man wytb

[glass plume]

sure, if you remove Blackbeard

[honest garden]

Good, but it's missing Luffy taking up 5/8th of the page

[grand flower]

Luffy didnt inherit Roger’s will

Roger inherited Luffy’s

[sage temple]

true

[fallen meteor]

Are you or are you not

[ashen perch]

Penny would love this actually but I cooked something ultra crazy up with the Shanks Joyboy ancestor idea, its happening

[dense rapids]

[sage temple]

[proud pivot]

nah I’m at the part where imu arrived also I just watch videos not read manga

[ashen perch]

I am feeling as confident about this one as I felt about Gaban being the silhouette in Elbaf

[trim lily]

i do wonder how oda plans to shove luffy into the next volume cover

[proud pivot]

Should I read instead?

[dense rapids]

The pirate Roger was waiting for was joy boy himself

[fallen meteor]

Yeah

[trim lily]

you should probably read the manga yes

[glass plume]

probably as an overarching sun

[tranquil blade]

What if he doesnt

[trim lily]

not possible

if luffy isnt in the next volume cover then oda has been replaced

[ashen perch]

Luffy won't be on it, like the 6 other covers he hasn't been on

[dense rapids]

In between a kid Loki and hajrudin staring at each other in anger

[tranquil blade]

Maybe Oda needs to be replaced

[glass plume]

Roger should be on it instead of Luffy this time

[ashen perch]

It'll hurt the sales but Oda will have to put up with it

[glass plume]

or hell, Dragon should be there instead of Luffy

[fallen meteor]

Luffy loki and hajrudin on the bottom, loki on the middle of the 3
The top is Roger rocks and garp

[ornate tartan]

yeah there’s no way he’s just a silhouette, either he’s possessing someone or that’s Imu him/herself under that veil

[grand flower]

I remember now

[glass plume]

has Dragon been on a volume cover?

[trim lily]

yeah i think its pretty clear imu is wearing some kind of veil, they have a rough outline of a face

[odd rune]

luffy will be on it

willing to bet on this

[grand flower]

This is how my theory started @ashen perch @dense rapids @hot cairn @stone tulip

[proud pivot]

yes

[glass plume]

which one

[grand flower]

I remember he was on a green one

[sage temple]

I just want more angles of Loki to be colored so roblox accessory makers get the gist

[proud pivot]

Bro what are u talking about the recap hasn’t even finished

[ornate tartan]

I think Luffy has been on every volume cover in the entire series except 6

[trim lily]

oh wow

dragon has actually never been on a volume cover

[fallen meteor]

You may be the most confused user ive ever seen

[ashen perch]

Yea I think I already knew, its a fun idea I'll still say but I have landed on something funner with Shanks sadly

[dense rapids]

Only thing about Luffy being Joy Boy is that the Void Century becomes a whole arc that lasts for who knows how long 😭

[trim lily]

nevermind i lied

[glass plume]

lol

[proud pivot]

Bro ur saying that there’s A GEAR 6 NOT 5??

[trim lily]

the one dragon volume

[glass plume]

didn't you know there's a gear 7

[glass plume]

oh right, that one

[proud pivot]

[glass plume]

and a gear 9 but not an 8

[fallen meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/gear6-luffyfade-gear-gear2-gear3-gif-25394392

[ashen perch]

He'll look like the Vearth Statue, lock it in

[long basin]

why though?

[proud pivot]

Ur messing with me right?

[fallen meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/gear7-gear7th-gear-gearsecond-gear2-gif-25394373

[glass plume]

https://tenor.com/view/luffy-gear-8-gear-8-gear-8th-gif-5877195387135233758

[fallen meteor]

Yes dude there's no gear 6 or more so far lol

[proud pivot]

I think Luffyd next awakening will be the original form

[proud pivot]

bruh

[glass plume]

interesting

[grand flower]

Cover with dragon

[trim lily]

snail

[fallen meteor]

Its the manga chat how would we know you are not caught up

[glass plume]

personally i don't think he'll get a new form

[tranquil blade]

It was already uh posted

[glass plume]

Gear 5 is his peak

[grand flower]

I think Mihawk is the only major character never to appear on a cover

[fallen meteor]

Trust reverse gear

[glass plume]

i'm sure it was on some cover where the Warlords were on, no?

[trim lily]

nope

not even the marineford ones

[tranquil blade]

That was a color spread I think

[grand flower]

Nope

[proud pivot]

I am caught up, ur just messing around with me

[glass plume]

damn

[grand flower]

Yeah

[tranquil blade]

He hasnt been on a real volume cover before

[glass plume]

Oda saving him for the special occassion

[ashen perch]

Just not relevant I'm afraid

[fallen meteor]

if you are caught up how come you are like 'theres a gear 6???' like we all read the same manga

[glass plume]

sure, but he will be

[tranquil blade]

Imu's son cannot be irrelevant

[fallen meteor]

the reason mihawk has not been on a volume cover is that mihawk is famously another character that has been on multiple volume covers:

[proud pivot]

Idk man manga dropped today I couldve missed something and I don’t read I just watch them videos

[ashen perch]

Hachinosu War cover #2, trust

[trim lily]

is mihawk going to be there

[frosty oasis]

So you don’t read the manga?

[fallen meteor]

[dapper tree]

who does

[ornate tartan]

Luffy doesn’t need new forms

[frosty oasis]

Asking for a friend

[glass plume]

don't embarass yourself like this publicly

[ornate tartan]

he just needs to improve his haki and master gear 5

Luffy already getting creative in Elbaph by being able to use Gear 4 in base form now

[fallen meteor]

when a helper asks if you read the manga this is how it feels

[fallen meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/sniper-pubg-loading-sniper-reload-gif-15505006

[proud pivot]

Il read from now on thanks to this comment

Volume covers 103 and 58 are so good

[glass plume]

you better start from chapter 1

[proud pivot]

Hell nah

[glass plume]

hell yes

[glass plume]

https://tenor.com/view/friday-the13th-part-vi-red-dot-ya-bang-tommy-jarvis-spiner-gif-14174200

[dapper tree]

no one actually reads the manga

[strong wadi]

aint that the truth

[dapper tree]

[glass plume]

especially not people on a forum dedicated to the manga

[fallen meteor]

thats why we are not #1022309132692365383

[long basin]

i only watch hint gifs

[formal wagon]

best way to consume one piece

[glass plume]

https://tenor.com/view/winter-is-here-snow-storm-blizzard-cold-gif-11344808256413774941

[fallen meteor]

i hire someone on fiver to sing the japanese volumes to me

[frozen aspen]

the best way to consume one piece is to not consume it at all

[dapper tree]

It's actually to read the wiki

[glass plume]

wrong, wrong, wrong and wrong

[dapper tree]

ACTUALLY

[formal wagon]

ace novels

[dapper tree]

I am right

[glass plume]

the best way to consume it is through reddit

[blazing mantle]

Pirate folk

Just read the last 4 chapters of one piece

And you’ll fit right in

👍

[glass plume]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/738580480437387264/1437107069034696834/IMG_2503.gif

you'll learn new words too!

[blazing mantle]

Bumsopp Loden

Mental nerf

Odas a hack

[glass plume]

like fraud, fodder, bum, ass, mentally nerfed, physically nerfed, mentally buffed, physically buffed, asshat, L(place name here) as well as other fun stuff like for example how much complaining actually works

[blazing mantle]

Do you think odas sees that

[ashen perch]

Thankfully no

[barren plover]

mid

[ashen perch]

His mind should remain protected from the slop that these minds are producing

[trim lily]

i wonder how japanese one piece twitter is doing

maybe he has a secret alt there

[ashen perch]

Oda doesn't check that either, atleast according to him

[trim lily]

he’s like 50 something so yeah i imagine he doesn’t really use social media much

[ashen perch]

JP Twitter is doing fine though, most love OP

Some are like "HxH is better"

[glass plume]

if i was Oda and saw the internet behave like they do, i'd end my own series

[trim lily]

there’s this chinese one piece forum i used to look at that had oddly similar takes and discussions to the english one

[blazing mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/michaeljordan-mj-basketball-gif-michael-jordan-no-no-no-no-gif-16220345851539903827

[ashen perch]

And some are like "Ehhh, its still running? It should have ended at the timeskip, isn't it going too long", and this is the most common criticism I have seen from JP fans

[fallen meteor]

he has a secret alt here

[ashen perch]

They're constantly baffled by the idea of the series being long

[trim lily]

i believe that

[ashen perch]

Well not JP fans, but JP people in general I mean

[trim lily]

it is pretty crazy that one piece is still going

[fallen meteor]

he's just 50, he's 100% one of our older regulars

[ashen perch]

True but you gotta get over it

I have seen the same criticism from the Japanese for 10 years

Really it is long yeah, but it is what it is

[glass plume]

i'd say it's more of a boon that it's long

considering that it allows Oda to pack it with much more detail and depth

and is probably the reason for why One Piece has such an extraordinary interesting and deep world

[fallen meteor]

at the end of the day we are all humans so i think the same issues are brought up there and here

[trim lily]

imagine reading it a bit as a kid in the early 2000s then getting an office job and still seeing volume advertisements for it

[glass plume]

the world building is top notch

[fallen meteor]

theres probably a japanese Sb out there

[ashen perch]

Its not long enough I'll say

[glass plume]

isn't that just Meek

[fallen meteor]

i mean this is just how it is for me basically

[ashen perch]

Well not quite the same

[trim lily]

when i first started reading one piece i thought it’d be over by the time i got into university

now i’ve graduated and we’ve still got years to go

[fallen meteor]

i started watching early 2000s then this shit is still around

[ashen perch]

They don't really do agenda there, but generally you're right

[fallen meteor]

i think it debuted over here in 2005? something like that

[glass plume]

sounds like heaven

[fallen meteor]

actually 1999 but i think they stopped for a few years

[ornate tartan]

I first saw OP when I was relatively young around 2008 it’s crazy that it’s still ongoing

[frozen aspen]

they are right tbh we are pushing 30 years lol

[fallen meteor]

it's good that its still going - at least to me

[ashen perch]

Their SB is basically just a subsection of fanbase I have seen, that thinks the dark 3 clears One Piece by miles

[trim lily]

the dark 3

[fallen meteor]

i like having a constant in life

[glass plume]

what are the dark 3

[fallen meteor]

jujutsu csm and

uhhh

[ashen perch]

Dark 3 is big 3 but dark

[frozen aspen]

thw new gen slop

[fallen meteor]

dandadan?

[trim lily]

oh like berserk and co

[ashen perch]

It was Jigokuraku

[fallen meteor]

hells paradise?

that one was cool

[ashen perch]

Yes

[fallen meteor]

very cool actually

[trim lily]

i wanna check out the chinese forum again now

[glass plume]

i forgot that one

[ashen perch]

That was the 3rd

[trim lily]

i wonder what their thoughts are for this chap

[frozen aspen]

dark 3 is cringest shit shonen fans cane up with

[glass plume]

what are the other ones

[ashen perch]

JP fans did lol

[fallen meteor]

jjk csm and hells paradise

[ornate tartan]

the dark 3 i never heard that term😂

[glass plume]

ah

[ashen perch]

Their cringiest shonen fans

But yea

[strong wadi]

i'd rather shit be called "dark big 3" than "newgen" which is the most useless term of all time

[trim lily]

people in the west are also pretty desperate to make a 'new big 3'

[ornate tartan]

back when I first started manga dark shonen/seinen wasn’t as popular as it is now

theres been a big shift over the years

[frozen aspen]

I always thought it was western fandom that made this crap uo bc they are the ones obsessed with arguing about which series is the best

[trim lily]

wasnt the big 3 not even a thing in japan?

[ornate tartan]

nowadays that’s all ppl like

[ashen perch]

It was

[strong wadi]

when did you start

[ornate tartan]

around 2008

[fallen meteor]

lets make 3 new mangas and give them a group name like this too

[ashen perch]

Big 3 was also a JP thing, because op wasn't the worldwide phenomenon it is now

[glass plume]

i remember when Tokyo Ghoul was the thing every edgy kid was talking about

[strong wadi]

good cause if you said 2014 i was going to have an aneurysm

[ashen perch]

Big 3 because it was the big 3 in Japan

[prisma yacht]

What's dark 3 😭

[ornate tartan]

I was a anime watcher before reading manga tho i was young as hell😂

[wraith mantle]

i know one piece and naruto are good, but is bleach actually good?

[fallen meteor]

i think everybody was an anime watcher

[trim lily]

yes

[glass plume]

go watch it

[fallen meteor]

very few people went straight into manga

[fallen meteor]

yes

[wraith mantle]

bet

[ornate tartan]

yeah it’s nice

[fallen meteor]

to me its one piece > bleach > a big void > naruto

[strong wadi]

at least in america, shit like elfen lied, deadman wonderland, tokyo ghoul, shiki, and another were all huge anime cause people loved blood/gore. But yes, #other-series is best channel, you should all use it as long as you follow the spoiler rules

[trim lily]

im glad people in the chinese fanbase thought the same thing

[glass plume]

i've never understood the love of gore

[ornate tartan]

you are a goat

[ashen perch]

Lmao

[prisma yacht]

A big void lmfao

[fallen meteor]

for a second i thought you doxxed yourself

[ornate tartan]

i have the same exact ranking but not a big void😂

[prisma yacht]

Well there's a big void between op and bleach too

[trim lily]

im actually in fujian

[fallen meteor]

i mean yea

[wraith mantle]

this is crazy because naruto was actually a pretty good shonen for the most part

[ashen perch]

Yea discourse is generally the same everywhere, with varying degrees of agenda. From no agenda to full agenda

[trim lily]

naruto was probably the biggest of the three in the west for a decent bit early on

[fallen meteor]

we cant go in detail but what made it bad for me soured it all
bleach was just confusing but it never made me mad like naruto did

[thick mango]

I treid to watch naruto first before one piece when i was looking for something really long to watch during quarantine but i couldnt get into it

[glass plume]

same

[ornate tartan]

I saw naruto first then One Piece then Bleach

naruto was kinda bigger then one piece back then

[glass plume]

Naruto never clicked for me

[urban lodge]

Even as a kid I could never get into Naruto

[frozen aspen]

the cringe 3

[ashen perch]

One piece one piece one piece

[fallen meteor]

its still good

[fallen meteor]

lets go

[wraith mantle]

ig naruto hit hard when i was 13

idk if i will be able to get into it now

[ashen perch]

People who never use other-series always wanna talk other-series smh

[strong wadi]

Anyway, the correct order is OP > Naruto > Bleach

Naruto was kinda toe-to-toe with OP at one point but thankfully for OP, it fell off

[trim lily]

oh wow theyre even discussing nepo piece in the chinese forum

[fallen meteor]

i feel we are in dire need of a 'dude learns new power syster - goes to school for it' manga soon

[glass plume]

y'all want to know waht the real 3 are

[frozen aspen]

I never watched naruto or bleach and I never will

[strong wadi]

spoiler tags are mad scary

[trim lily]

maybe some things are constant among different cultures

[wraith mantle]

???

[prisma yacht]

Ah mb

[wraith mantle]

dropping insane spoilers when a mod in chat

[ashen perch]

See I could sense it

[fallen meteor]

maybe theres one that i dont know

[glass plume]

let's talk about Big News Morgans now

[trim lily]

red has put the fear of god in me when it comes to discussing other series

[glass plume]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-morgans-morgans-one-piece-albatross-big-news-morgans-gif-15685263402457656564

[ashen perch]

This is why, move on, no other-series here

[frozen aspen]

2 weeks break

[ashen perch]

Don't we love one piece here

[prisma yacht]

Anyways op is just better

[wraith mantle]

how were you able to dodge these two but landed on one piece lol

[ornate tartan]

there was a japanese fan on twitter last week criticizing the manga after he read the new volume 😂

[trim lily]

i think so

[prisma yacht]

Objectively

[strong wadi]

I can answer this when elbaf ends

[glass plume]

who is the cooler, funniest and most entertaining character to you?

[ashen perch]

Random Japanese dude, not a fan

[ornate tartan]

he wasn’t a fan?😭😭

[fallen meteor]

theres like a billion people reading this shit we kinda have people saying anything at this point

[ashen perch]

Like I said, there's JP people who dislike One Piece, why is this hard to imagine lol

[frozen aspen]

I wasn't into anime at all when I started it tbh. My cousin mentioned it and I saw some "funny one piece monemts" compilations on youtube and that's how I started it

[trim lily]

people do be discussing topics

[fallen meteor]

someone out there is dropping the manga as we speak because garp punches like luffy

[wraith mantle]

damn and now look at you, rocking a moamoa pfp

[royal orchid]

definetly a subproduct of Thing, Japan

Fan, Japan

[fallen meteor]

dropped the a twice

[trim lily]

one piece fan, japan

[wraith mantle]

lmao true

[frozen aspen]

real I spend yesterday catching up on dozens of mangas I was behind and I'm gonna watch cinderella gray and panty and stocking next

[fallen meteor]

moamoa

[frozen aspen]

smh

[grand flower]

I’d marry OP and have little shonen and shojou babies with it

[ashen perch]

Yeah most do like it but there's still a lot of people who dont, like the dark trio fans I mentioned

[wraith mantle]

lmao i give up yall know who i mean

[blazing depot]

Idk why people act like one Japanese guy represents what they all feel

[ornate tartan]

today people are complaining about toei changing nojiko skin tone when they just made it manga accurate

[trim lily]

dark trio is such a funny nickname

[blazing depot]

They’re not a monolith

[trim lily]

its easier that way

[icy wolf]

damnnn thats older than me unc

[frozen aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-maomao-猫猫-xiao-mao-gif-12080507476447846296

[trim lily]

like if one person says something here you can say 'people are saying'

[ornate tartan]

damn bro u young😂😂

[scenic kernel]

people are saying something

[brittle basin]

i'm fucking saying something.

[icy wolf]

yea bro i turned 16 in august

[ashen perch]

Many people are saying that my ideas are brilliant and I should take over the series

[trim lily]

people always be saying things

[frozen aspen]

fetus

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-apothecary-maomao-gif-11364512692059337267

[grand flower]

No we aren’t

[prisma yacht]

😭

[ashen perch]

Many are actually

[fallen meteor]

the streets are saying that cloud logia loki and grafted eris are what they want to see

[ashen perch]

Look at the number of reacts, trvke statement

[royal orchid]

Arsal's first demand as the newest one piece advisor is to add more barefoot characters

[icy wolf]

what about cloud logia lafitte

[brittle basin]

!numbers

[tropic nova]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/486983010025996299/953003986586320976/Screenshot_20220314-235556_Gallery.png?width=960&height=527

[trim lily]

the japanese fandom is pretty on board with my idea of loki having the hamster zoan

[icy wolf]

ever heard of that theory

[frozen aspen]

Same people are alao telling me this. They are saying I should take over and turn OP into a yaoi with polygamous relationships

[fallen meteor]

lame theory

will never happen (it might)

[royal orchid]

what about cloud logia loki

[icy wolf]

i think its pretty cool

[fallen meteor]

good theory

[frozen aspen]

is that kidd true

[fallen meteor]

whoever came up with it is a genius

[frozen aspen]

lmao

[trim lily]

i only use it for special occasions

[scenic kernel]

what do you guys think about logia awakenings

[trim lily]

they should happen

[fallen meteor]

whoever made that emote is a genius

[frozen aspen]

real

[icy wolf]

i havent seen a good idea for what it should be

[scenic kernel]

yeah

that's why I'm asking

[ornate tartan]

Do we find out Loki fruit in the flashback or the present? There’s no way he was taking on his father without a fruit power right😂

[icy wolf]

i like the idea of sabo blue colour scheme alluding to awakening blue flames

[fallen meteor]

so sad i lost the original files when i changed pcs

[trim lily]

present

probably

[strong wadi]

You were doing well for a while but your true nature has shown itself again recently (or it could just be me being less active and not seeing your bad takes 24/7)

[scenic kernel]

basically Marco or Sanji ifrit jambe😭

[fallen meteor]

so dumb

[trim lily]

for logia awakenigns im pretty locked in on them being able to spawn sentient creatures/animals

[strong wadi]

They’ll save it for the present

[icy wolf]

thats fujcking awesome bro

[scenic kernel]

why?

[strong wadi]

So kizaru is awakened?

[trim lily]

a few logias tend to make animal shapes with their powers, karasu's crows were basically sentient (or independent)

[scenic kernel]

oh yeah

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/timbaland-kewcheeeman-gif-21658755

[scenic kernel]

completely forgot that

[trim lily]

do you mean the clones he spawned

[scenic kernel]

would actually be sick

[trim lily]

idk maybe

[fallen meteor]

[strong wadi]

Yes

[fallen meteor]

stole yours, Dolfius

[trim lily]

wow

im charging royalties on every use

[strong wadi]

This goes against the idea of smoker being the first person to show off logia awakening, so wrong

[scenic kernel]

now I remember I actually thought about it when I saw the ace vs aokiji fight

[ashen perch]

Is it because of the Shanks Joyboy idea

[trim lily]

he will be the first one to officially use one

[ashen perch]

Its true though

So I must say it

[trim lily]

all the others are unofficial

[leaden rivet]

In all my time here you’ve never had a bad opinion. You truly are wise.

[prisma yacht]

Ace aokiji?

[ornate tartan]

when a logia awakens, what would change? would it just be similar to a paramecia awakening where they affect surroundings

[royal orchid]

we got Kidd true (scale to size) and Kidd true (force pixel perfect)

[trim lily]

i genuinely cant imagine what else there can be for a logia that they cant already do

[strong wadi]

#also-manga message

[scenic kernel]

back at marineford, it was more a clash but they both had creature in their attacks

[fallen meteor]

they can make other forms of their element?

[ashen perch]

Oh Mom Marked by Flames

[ornate tartan]

im thinking the same thing it is already the strongest devil fruit type on its own merits

[trim lily]

i feel that becomes limited kind of quick

[fallen meteor]

yeah

[trim lily]

and ceasar can already do that cant he

[scenic kernel]

eternal flame for Sabo, like changing the nature forever (just what happened in punk hazard)

[trim lily]

its all vague with logias

[prisma yacht]

Oh u meant the clash

[royal orchid]

what if the man marked by flames was actually a woman marked by flames and it was a prophecy for big mom's return

[fallen meteor]

uhhh they can teleport to their element around the world

[ashen perch]

Well look, while I do find the idea of Mom Marked by Flames to be super fun, my main idea is still the former Gorosei one

[fallen meteor]

[leaden rivet]

Damn Arsal didn’t take the bait

[trim lily]

thats kinda boring though no? punk hazard i feel is something they can just do normally

its not like their element goes away after some time, they put out a lot of it

[leaden rivet]

Is Tritoma the leading Luffy mom now?

[trim lily]

i think so

[fallen meteor]

seems so

[leaden rivet]

Im rather interested in her since she’s a Amazon lily princess

[fallen meteor]

like egghead ending in december

[grand flower]

I think their destructive power becomes catastrophic

[leaden rivet]

Hopefully she’s not a dick obsessed fool like the last 2.

[scenic kernel]

I mean being able to turn anything (and anyone maybe?) to an element would be broken

[grand flower]

It’s Louis Arnot, or Rocks

[fallen meteor]

the only true awakened logia user was the ocean one and they are still alive producing ocean water somewhere

[royal orchid]

I saw someone yesterday say louis arnot was a pen name

[leaden rivet]

But she did die of love sickness so that’s worse. Oh they’ll cook dragon if Tritoma died cause of him

[grand flower]

Me, maybe

[formal wagon]

its an anagram for imu

[grand flower]

I think it’s a pen name for fire scar

[trim lily]

its a weird situation

[grand flower]

It’s actually an anagram for Uso not liar

[trim lily]

cause it implies she had a kid with dragon then dragon left her

[royal orchid]

inu

[leaden rivet]

It’s weird isn’t it?

Because love sickness doesn’t require the love to be requited

[trim lily]

im fine with tritoma being luffy's mom as long as oda commits to her dying of love sickness

[royal orchid]

Boa really just spent some time with luffy

quality time

[leaden rivet]

And if they slept with each other then clearly she wasn’t supressing her feelings

So how she died?

If she truly is momma Luffy

[dense haven]

the one piece ocean is just the body of davy jones and his water logia

[ashen perch]

I think this is a guy who is actively working against the WG after having worked for the WG in the past, in fact, I think this is the Corazon to Imu's Doflamingo. This parallel is everything to the theory. I think Oda is going to draw it through a man that was also close to Imu, but was almost killed for some reason, through the same black flames de-age method, but somehow managed to survive it. Corazon setting himself on fire all the time is actually also foreshadowing for this. The 6th man seemingly being dumped from a ship that is with Imu on the mural as well. You will see.

[grand flower]

Mmm

[fallen meteor]

all the jones cells in it are what makes the df users weak

[trim lily]

dragon wouldve had to have left her

[dense haven]

that would go hard af

[leaden rivet]

Yeah but that doesn’t make love sickness kill you tho

[trim lily]

doesnt it?

[leaden rivet]

Because Luffy also left Hancock

[scenic kernel]

he always produces more water and that's how the sea level rises, you're a genius

[trim lily]

how does it even work

[fallen meteor]

maybe its the giving then leaving

[leaden rivet]

Love sickness kills you when supressing your feelings

[somber flare]

It’s when you bottle them up

[ashen perch]

I do like the Louis Arnot idea

[somber flare]

Yeah

[trim lily]

ah

[leaden rivet]

Love sickness is so dumb

[trim lily]

it is

[grand flower]

Yup. This is who I think Louis Arnot is

I think he tried to spread the truth under that pen name

[pine scaffold]

Sengoku looks so stupid

[ashen perch]

Could be yeah

[somber flare]

I don’t really care it’s mostly a joke anyway

[leaden rivet]

It’s not when characters actually like die

From it

[ashen perch]

But I'm thinking something bigger than just a former Marine

[trim lily]

the joke killed someone so yeah its a bit hard to treat it as one lol

[somber flare]

Characters we don’t really care about

[trim lily]

well in this hypothetical tritoma ends up being luffy's mom

[leaden rivet]

Yeah except in this scenario it’s if she’s Luffy’s mom

[ornate tartan]

that sengoku line is gonna end up coming back, the guy who vanished from the navy

[somber flare]

Which it probably isn’t

[leaden rivet]

Anyway

[trim lily]

[leaden rivet]

I don’t really see how this can make sense with this being Tritoma

[ashen perch]

A HK or A Gorosei, someone important enough from the WG's side formerly that has decided that he won't be sticking to any faction but his own. This is why he has kept the poneglyph all for himself and constantly evades every pirate that approaches him. This is also a major point against the Rocks idea because his son himself has been trying to find him but to no avail.

[long basin]

none of us should

[leaden rivet]

Unless she suppressed her feelings after getting impregnated? Wait no that doesn’t even work, because for Luffy to be a male she’d have to leave Amazon lily

[trim lily]

surely dragon's mother or luffy's mother will come up at some point

[leaden rivet]

So it would mean she already left with dragon

So she shouldn’t have died from the goon sickness

[wraith mantle]

the MMBF is shiki

[leaden rivet]

So if everything is consistent then I’m guessing she’s not going to be mommy Luffy

[somber flare]

She probably will be when we learn about Dragon himself

[fallen meteor]

dragon's mother trained luffy's mother in their vanishing techniques

[grand flower]

Agree with me

[wet condor]

This is solid reasoning

[ashen perch]

I don't like the Rocks idea

[fallen meteor]

can dragon's mom be bogard

[trim lily]

maybe

[fallen meteor]

have we followed this idea

[ashen perch]

And I partially address it here

[prisma yacht]

It can't be a gorosei tho

[leaden rivet]

Oda just make her lesbian and I’d forgive you for this dumbass disease

[long basin]

koby with afro

[ornate tartan]

maybe tritoma just isn’t luffy mother😂

[fallen meteor]

very dragon-like

[trim lily]

anyone else a believer in the asexual reproduction theory

all of the monkey line simply spawns in

[leaden rivet]

Yes that is the conclusion that is coming

[fallen meteor]

the monkeytosis

[trim lily]

there are no mothers

[wet condor]

Luffy born from an immaculate conceptions

That'd be so on the nose

oml

[leaden rivet]

Has Garp ever mentioned a woman

[trim lily]

literally never

[ashen perch]

Tritoma should be alive if she's his mother, that's important

Oda will figure out the how

[wet condor]

Be too funny

[grand flower]

You think so?

[fallen meteor]

oh yeah maybe they just lied about her dying

[trim lily]

thats so boring

[blazing depot]

I feel like most mom theories just throw a dart on every woman in a flashback

[trim lily]

if she died by love sickness then commit to it

[blazing depot]

Like zero thinking

[ornate tartan]

well there’s gotta be a reason that Kuma send Luffy to the island of women

[trim lily]

more or less

[fallen meteor]

its easy to solve with it tho

[ornate tartan]

but the whole love sickness w tritoma makes it so confusing

[ashen perch]

Yea, I think she just managed to save herself

[leaden rivet]

I can’t think of a way she dies from love sickness and is also Luffy’s mother

[trim lily]

easy theories are for the weak minded

[ashen perch]

I like the Ivankov transition idea

[fallen meteor]

[long basin]

Garp's first son

[leaden rivet]

Like some established rules need to be broken for it to work

[ashen perch]

Kinda silly but its something!

[grand flower]

You’re getting dangerously close to -

[wet condor]

Maybe she dies from having to send Luffy away or something

[ashen perch]

Crocomom yeah

[ornate tartan]

gloriosa herself is on Roger ship rn, I wonder if they gonna kick her out😂

[ashen perch]

But no, I think she's her own character lol

[blazing depot]

Also think logically

Wouldn’t having a kid cure the love sickness?

[trim lily]

who knows

i dont know how that stupid disease works

[ashen perch]

Not if the man declares that he can never be around I guess

[fallen meteor]

what if she had to go into hiding and deny any love for dragon and thats what slimes her

[somber flare]

Yes it would, just acknowledging the love at all cured the sickness for Hancock

[leaden rivet]

But that’s like not really how it works isn’t it? Like once you accept your feelings your safe from the disease. Which is why Hancock despite getting rejected a million times is still alive after Luffy left

[wet condor]

Everyone is fixated on her being the mom lol

[trim lily]

wait how did gloriosa survive

[somber flare]

Actually getting with the person is a step after that

[wet condor]

I wasn't talking about love sickness. I was just talking about dying from like a broken heart or something

[somber flare]

Because she left to chase after Roger

[leaden rivet]

She accepted her feelings and followed Roger.

[trim lily]

but then roger died

[leaden rivet]

You don’t need to be with the person

[ornate tartan]

IF tritoma is Luffy mother and ended up having a child with dragon

then how do u explain her dying after this fact if she has accepted her feelings

[leaden rivet]

Or else Hancock is a dead man lol

[long basin]

there are no moms. Oda decided

[trim lily]

is she still in love with roger after hes dead?

or does the sickness decide youre fine

[leaden rivet]

Oh my apologies

[wet condor]

I'm less convinced she's the mom now though

[fallen meteor]

oh yeah maybe oda can say it was love sickness but she actually died of another thing

[leaden rivet]

The sickness decides your fine once you stop supressing feelings

[somber flare]

Tritoma being Luffy’s mom just doesn’t make any logical sense

[fallen meteor]

and the love sickness is a way to hide that she is luffy's mom

[grand flower]

Why not

[trim lily]

no but im asking how does that work once your love interest is dead

actually nevermind

i guess youre not suppressing them then

[leaden rivet]

Actually I’m reading it now

And like it makes no sense

[somber flare]

Because if she had a child with the person she loved then the sickness wouldn’t have killed her

[thick mango]

wait was i supposed to conclude that love sickness is a real disease? I guess my kneejerk reaction is that it was some cultural/psychological thing

[trim lily]

it apparently is

[wet condor]

I mean it's killing them

[leaden rivet]

Several empresses have died from it

[dense haven]

its placebo

[trim lily]

it actually hurts them yeah

[leaden rivet]

And Hancock was bedridden

[wet condor]

If it's actually KILLING them

Yeah it's real

[thick mango]

well thats what they say

[leaden rivet]

Gloriosa was alive and there

[trim lily]

it exclusively affects them even if they dont know whats happening

[leaden rivet]

It’s not some legend

[thick mango]

i guess i also thought that claims that old empresses died of love sickness was like.. a convenient lie

[long basin]

since tritoma wore sandals she was luffy's mom

[somber flare]

Yeah whether or not it’s the textbook definition of a disease doesn’t matter when it literally kills them

[wet condor]

I can get why you don't take it seriously becaus how goofy it seems lol

but Hancock was in that bed with a fever

[trim lily]

shakky collapsed

[wet condor]

Yea

[thick mango]

yeah but couldnt psychological shock do that to you ?

[trim lily]

but it affects exclusively them

and can kill them

[thick mango]

i guess a pyschological thing is still kind of a disease

[dense haven]

@thick mango it's real in star wars

[thick mango]

well yeah cause they have this very specific culture/upbringing is what i thoguht

[leaden rivet]

And the fever immediately disappeared in Luffy’s presence

[wet condor]

lmaoooooo

[leaden rivet]

It’s definitely supposed to exist

[trim lily]

if that was the case theyd know about it before hand

[leaden rivet]

It’s stupid but it is what it is

[long basin]

I doubt you collapse from psychosis

[thick mango]

its not common but people definitely can collapse and die from psychosis

[dense haven]

its just odas thinly veiled misogyny

[trim lily]

maybe

[wet condor]

Like you're trying to think of it as being perhaps a psychosomatic type of thing because it seems absurd. But it really is just straight-up killing them

[trim lily]

live doflamingo reaction

[leaden rivet]

Yeah it’s weird cause it works like an actual virus, it gives you nausea and stuff and what not

[long basin]

same true for eating a peanut

[leaden rivet]

And you just lay there until you die

[thick mango]

hm im not sure if im convinced

[trim lily]

its best not to try to make sense of it

one piece is a silly world

[long basin]

yea.

[thick mango]

i guess it could be real but at the same time i dont think real symptoms alone are enough to conclude its real, it could still be a psychological thing that manifsets in real symptoms

and real maybe isnt the right word

[celest mauve]

why is a line of the strongest women on a female-only island susceptible to dying over just being in love with men

[leaden rivet]

What difference does that actually make?

[thick mango]

psychosomatic.

[leaden rivet]

Like I mean that would still make it real? And a disease?

Even if psychological

[leaden rivet]

Grok define misogyny

[strong wadi]

Because their race dies out if they don't. They have to leave and pursue men to keep reproducing women for their island.

[long basin]

mental disease is a disease, true.

[thick mango]

i guess it doesnt make that much difference. There might be a unifying reason behind only having women and a real biological truth of love sickness. Or it could also be convenient lies and impacts of this very particular culture

[ornate tartan]

why does the love sickness even exist
is it really necessary

[leaden rivet]

It only happens to empresseses

[celest mauve]

why does this not affect the rest of the women on the island, as far as we know?

[somber flare]

They’re the only ones who go out and see men

The others don’t even know what they look like

[leaden rivet]

No they aren’t

Yes they do

They’re pirates

[strong wadi]

that's me forgetting it only affects empresses, in which-case it's just a silly one piece thing

[leaden rivet]

They attack ships

[ornate tartan]

and if the empresses aren’t chosen by blood how does it only happen to them

[celest mauve]

it isn't necessary, it's just oda being weird

[somber flare]

I mean the ones on the island

[leaden rivet]

They see men

[somber flare]

I’m saying the pirates are the only ones who go out and see men

[leaden rivet]

Oda’s excuse to make every empress a dickmatized simp

[celest mauve]

the empress of amazon lily is also the captain of the kuja pirates

[thick mango]

its just not common knowledge maybe if a random pirate underling dies of love sickenss does it matter enough to be retained in like history?

[trim lily]

i wonder how the empress succession even works

is it just whoever ends up strongest

[strong wadi]

shakky isn't that big of a simp though

[dense haven]

the only empress thing is weird it would make more sense if it was everyone

[ornate tartan]

pretty much

[wet condor]

Yeah

[fallen meteor]

its probably like a curse from the void century or something like that

[leaden rivet]

Compared to gloriosa yeah no one can be that bad

[dense haven]

like what happens if the empress just resigns

[trim lily]

sexist imu strikes again

[leaden rivet]

But Shakky was fainting over Rayleigh not wanting to talk to her

She’s still weird

[celest mauve]

she fainted over rayleigh not showing up at her bar lol

[somber flare]

Yeah I think it would make more sense if any pirate could get the sickness and not just the empress

[pine scaffold]

Most disappointing GV characters

[trim lily]

why are you dissapointed in shiki

he got to do stuff

[celest mauve]

add in gloriosa and stussy

[thick mango]

couldnt this just be like an anime hyperbolic exaggeration of normal strong feelings?

[pine scaffold]

I kinda wanted him to fight someone strong

[fallen meteor]

shiki was alright, he appeared a lot

[blazing depot]

Remember a few months ago when people were saying Shiki was top 3 of Rocks

[pine scaffold]

have Shiki fight Rayleigh

[leaden rivet]

Maybe if they didn’t die.

[pine scaffold]

it'd be cool

[thick mango]

that have more impact than usual because of seeing men so infreuqently?

[fast pagoda]

Shiki is a glorified cameo

[leaden rivet]

He can still be the top 3 in the rocks

[celest mauve]

he was part of the bum squad with ganzui and john instead, and now we can safely say "cabin boy" kaido > shiki

[fast pagoda]

He did more than I expected

[leaden rivet]

I mean nothing has happened to disprove that

[ornate tartan]

Oda did a good job with someone like Queen Otohime I really enjoyed her character during fishman island

[dense haven]

could the bar be any lower

[trim lily]

yeah shiki got a lot of focus considering who he is

[blazing depot]

https://tenor.com/view/tim-robinson-i-think-you-should-leave-you-sure-about-that-gif-22429959

[gloomy light]

Sb did you genuinely expect Bogard to do something

[fast pagoda]

Put Kyo in as the disappointing one instead

[trim lily]

poor barbell and silver axe

[pine scaffold]

Shiki was in that spread of the Rocks pirates fighting

like the OG yonko

[dense haven]

also surprised sb didn't mention gunko

[thick mango]

Cant you sorta die of heartbreak where extreme stress/distress causes a real physical heart condition?

[leaden rivet]

Uh yeah? Who’s top 3 if not Shiki? Big mom? Kaido?

[pine scaffold]

I expected big things from him

[fast pagoda]

Barbell and Kyo look sick as shit

IDK why Oda gave Ganzui so much screentime when he wasnt even on the 1060 spread

[celest mauve]

speaking of, I like that oda reinforced that the marines suck without garp around

[dense haven]

rabbits die from heartbreak or something

[trim lily]

hey ganzui is awesome

[celest mauve]

why's big mom a controversial choice for top 3

[pine scaffold]

Gunko doing nothing at GV makes her character worse

[thick mango]

search engine says theres something called Takotsubo Cardiomyopathy

[icy wolf]

WHERE THE FUCK IS BARBELL BRO

[fallen meteor]

if we are being serious everyone was disappointing
if you are not big mom, rocks, kaido, roger, garp and whitebeard

[glass plume]

eh...

is he really?

[icy wolf]

barbell has the flame flame fruit and we not seeing him

[trim lily]

he is

[icy wolf]

and where is silver axe

[trim lily]

i love ganzui, he has so much whimsy

[leaden rivet]

She’s done nothing of note

[celest mauve]

you could say kaido was too young or whatever and didn't have his DF until the very end of GV, but BM top 3 in the crew is not a crazy take

[somber flare]

What could any of the gods knights possibly do

[fast pagoda]

Now let's be fr here

[leaden rivet]

She got embarassed like every other chapter

[pine ridge]

got beat up by marco's dad

[ruby moat]

Gil bastar was not disappointing. I expected nothing and he ended up having a cool fruit

[ornate tartan]

@pine scaffold sengoku supposed to be one of the strongest characters we knew from the navy at the time of god valley not counting the unnamed admirals

[trim lily]

i cant believe we have this many ganzui haters

[celest mauve]

and what exactly did shiki or any of those guys do? she at least struck imu with an ikoku lol

[fast pagoda]

She got to Imu

[leaden rivet]

Didn’t do anything

[fast pagoda]

Also Oda is just a sexist pig

[ornate tartan]

now oda has him going extreme diff with crackers

[trim lily]

the knights are easily the biggest dissapointment of god valley and its not close

[fast pagoda]

Neither did ANY of the attacks

[fallen meteor]

[leaden rivet]

Shiki never had a chance to be embarassed so we can look at everything else

[celest mauve]

just the fact that she got to join in with rocks, roger, garp, WB and kaido probably means something for her portrayal lol

[celest mauve]

neither did the other attacks

[strong wadi]

this reminds me @ashen perch our time is coming

[wet condor]

Yeah. I know stress can worsen symptoms of people who are already sick. Stress is supposed to be link to the manifestation of a lot of autoimmune diseases

[thick mango]

It was always my expectation that only the biggest players would get significant events/screentime. It just has to be condensed as a flashback there isnt enough pagetime to give every single rocks pirate or island combatant more generally their own extended moment.

[dense haven]

the knights just vanished lul

[leaden rivet]

Well yeah but I didn’t hype up the other attacks either

[somber flare]

It’s not really disappointing when all of the strongest people on the world showed up in one place

[leaden rivet]

None of them are feats

[fast pagoda]

GV is the first time I truly felt a bit disappointed by OP

[somber flare]

There was nothing that could’ve been done

[icy wolf]

do we think maffey had kizarus fruit or nah

[dense haven]

they saw garling getting murked and dipped

[fast pagoda]

Saturn ended up disappointing me to

[pine scaffold]

I dont think Sengoku is that guy anymore tbh

[trim lily]

no

she had like a godzilla zoan

[ornate tartan]

doubt it

[pine scaffold]

I think prime Sengoku might be admiral level

[glass plume]

i'm not a hater by any means, i just find the likes of Kyo, Gil much cooler

[jade rain]

Did you expect complete fights?

[fast pagoda]

No

[fallen meteor]

vulcan paramecia

[celest mauve]

I'm not saying BM attacking imu is a crazy feat, I'm saying it probably means something that oda chose to have BM do that while having shiki squabble with john and ganzui over treasure

[fast pagoda]

I just wanted the Rocks crew to get more showcases

[icy wolf]

its funny how we only got introduced to 1 gods knight this entire flashback lol

[leaden rivet]

No it is not

[dense haven]

one piece is gone

[fast pagoda]

John had a moment but thats it

[leaden rivet]

She’s dead

She’s deader than dead

[thick mango]

Ive been pretty happy with god valley. The only thing I dislike is its plaec in the story and its length. If anything I would have prefered it were slightly shorter if it has to exist at this point in the story

[pine ridge]

no the celestial dragons would never give the power of a god to a mere navy insect

[ornate tartan]

People aren’t only disappointed with fights in god valley, some people think the writing was lackluster too

[proud pivot]

Saturn is too OP to be used as a fighter in God Valley. The man can just nuke God Valley from a ship if he wanted. But it's still using cannonballs to destroy God Valley, lmao.

[ashen perch]

Indeed, can't wait

[glass plume]

i'd say God Valley in it's entirety is 6/10 for me

[leaden rivet]

I agree it means something, but given pubescent Kaido is also there also I don’t think it means that she’s stronger than Shiki

[celest mauve]

remember when this supposed to be a flashback about harald and loki

[glass plume]

and that's not bad, by any means

that's better than average

[leaden rivet]

Do it

[thick mango]

yeah thats what I mean by disliking its place in the story

[dense haven]

both are shit mid valley

[celest mauve]

or maybe shiki is just that ass that even young kaido was stronger at least after eating the seiryu DF lol

[fast pagoda]

Linlin haters will never prosper

[trim lily]

nooo maffey second hand smoke is bad for babies

[fast pagoda]

Yall not ready for HER

[leaden rivet]

I am far from a big mom hater

[strong wadi]

I wouldnt say im "disappointed" but i was not expecting the fact everyone is a simp to be a major cause of God Valley

[leaden rivet]

I am a big mom lover

[glass plume]

saying that she is deader than dead means you hate her?

[icy wolf]

i dont really care about the fights that much i just want heavy lore and good character dynamics

[leaden rivet]

Probably one of the biggest here

[glass plume]

that's just factual, lol

Big Mom is dead

[ornate tartan]

holding lil bro like a stuffed animal 🧸 😂

[proud pivot]

I mean Shiki's the only pirate after Xebec who posed an actual threat to Roger

[wraith mantle]

imagine if big mom was a man

[fallen meteor]

look at her hair
🌋 paramecia

[fast pagoda]

There's no explicit confirmation

[somber flare]

I don’t know what other fights people were expecting, we got everything we were told happened

[trim lily]

her hair is so freaky

[proud pivot]

God Valley and Edd War, the only two major conflicts known from Roger.

[fast pagoda]

Why would that exist

[glass plume]

what more do you need when she was pushed to the earth's core

[fast pagoda]

Magma logia already exists

[fallen meteor]

why not? we have jacket paramecias

[jade rain]

For me gv was good the only disappointment is garling and hk's

[leaden rivet]

Trust me guys she’s still alive. She’s just waiting for the right chance.

[thick mango]

I think thats an exaggeration/simplification. Rocks had extended shakky his protection. Its more about that for him, as well as his family, than any personal feelings. Its only really roger and rayleigh who are primarily motivated by that.

[ashen perch]

Really the 6 that attacked Imu were the strongest before this current era, Shiki essentially is out of this top 6, Shiki fans are unable to cope with this I'm afraid

[somber flare]

But why

[fast pagoda]

She was not pushed into the earth's core?...

[glass plume]

not literally but you get waht i mean

[fast pagoda]

She was pushed into a volcano that erupted

[glass plume]

we saw how she was defeated

[trim lily]

if she can survive both being dissolved by magma and a borderline nuclear explosion then ill have to reevaluate how tough she is

[strong wadi]

that's why i decided to say major instead of #1

[fallen meteor]

but we have magma fire heat and probably a million more too

[fast pagoda]

Pell survived a real nuke

[wraith mantle]

sengoku fans too

[fallen meteor]

!pell

[tropic nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/164971940648321024/550441939967934474/unknown.png

[somber flare]

Shiki is strong but he is of movie level importance so it doesn’t really matter

[frail kindle]

It's almost 2026 and people still think BM is alive

Lol

[leaden rivet]

Yeah like she was quite literally bathing and damn near inhaling lava

[trim lily]

i cannot wait for the bet to end

[jade rain]

Oda showed them like a fodder, they are upcoming antagonists and now we might not feel them as threats

[leaden rivet]

How the fuck would she be alive

[pine jungle]

Who we slandering

[glass plume]

do y'all think that Kaido is alive too?

[pine jungle]

Big mom

[strong wadi]

We are not accepting opinions from Elbaf deniers

[ashen perch]

Yea

[icy wolf]

what the fuck is that bro

[trim lily]

he shouldnt be

[icy wolf]

am i tweaking or is she on all fours

[somber flare]

The strongest people on the planet were on that island

[pine jungle]

She's dead, no need to slander

[trim lily]

maybe?

[somber flare]

What could they possibly have done

[fast pagoda]

Ok people who think Kidd actually died are dumb sorry

[icy wolf]

where is her body

[frail kindle]

HEY I accepted my fate and said I was wrong

[trim lily]

she could be leaning down weirdly

[fallen meteor]

volcano eruption breath

[somber flare]

They are celestial dragons, they are bitch made from birth

[icy wolf]

theres only boobs theres no torso or anything

[fallen meteor]

its behind her

[thick mango]

I dont think theres any practical reason preventing big mom from bein g alive. A volcano aint shit. After pell, anyone can be alive from any wound. But I think it would be bad for the story for her to be alive.

[trim lily]

i swear she has the godzilla zoan

[fallen meteor]

she's doing the yveltal walk

[icy wolf]

is she really that big

[glass plume]

Maffey is leaning forwards

[trim lily]

yeah shes huge

[sage temple]

Is she on all 4s?

[leaden rivet]

I can’t wait for her to return

[ornate tartan]

you know how many chapters One Piece spent in Wano to defeat Big Mom and Kaidos alliance? if them mfs come back what would be the point😂

[somber flare]

Olin might be

[fast pagoda]

I will say Oda having Shanks epically oneshot Kid is pretty dumb writing considering end of Wano he was talking about "I SUPPORT THE NEW GENERATION SO MUCH MAN SO MUCH"

[trim lily]

we can literally see kaido dissolving here lmao

[ashen perch]

You really shouldn't question the how on someone's survival, its beyond silly

[glass plume]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-among-us-drip-yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss-sa-gif-24946313

[ruby moat]

Same here I glad we are on the same page enthusiastically waiting for big mom to come back

[leaden rivet]

No no Kaido is definitely dead. But big mom? Shes different.

[icy wolf]

future blackbeard victims

[fast pagoda]

And when Law and Midd defeated Big Mom it was literally titled "Big 'Mom vs the new generation"

[ornate tartan]

150 chapters of pain and struggle for Kaido to just miraculously climb out of the lava in 2 arcs

[frail kindle]

I wish I wasn't on mobile so I could laugh react more

[icy wolf]

i like the idea of blackbeard taking their fruits and becoming undeniably top 1

[pine jungle]

Make it your quick react

[glass plume]

that would be so horseshit

[icy wolf]

besides imu of course

[ashen perch]

We're talking about One Piece here, the how is so irrelevant that Oda on multiple occasions has not even deemed it worth addressing lol

[frail kindle]

On PC you can just hold shift and keep clicking. It's WAY faster

[ornate tartan]

that’s tuff😂

[leaden rivet]

The dumbest part about big mom being alive would be that it defeats the purpose of her coming to Wano, which was to get her out of the way

[somber flare]

I’m still of the belief Blackbeard should get another fruit but not one we’ve already fought against

[leaden rivet]

And if she comes back then she has to be either nerfed or lose her memory

[fast pagoda]

So much of Wano was about hyping up Law and Kid as the new generation alongside Luffy

[leaden rivet]

Because all she’s going to want is Luffy’s head

[fallen meteor]

learned something new

[fast pagoda]

And then Egghead just disposed of them

[ashen perch]

How does it defeat the purpose when the purpose never was that?

I know the purpose personally

[leaden rivet]

Enlighten all of us

Oh wise one

[glass plume]

other than Law and Kid getting to fight in the same space as Luffy, the fans were the ones who said "oh these two might be next Whitebeards to Luffy's Roger"

[ornate tartan]

ok say they do come back
where do u go from there
where do they even fit into the final saga
they didn’t even hear the broadcast😂 they in lava rn

[frail kindle]

If you read Wano and thought it's purpose was to hype law and kid, you need to take some reading comprehension classes

[ashen perch]

It was to remove her from the status of emperor alongside Kaido so the spots may open up for Luffy and Buggy. That's all there's to it

She's no longer emperor, its fine

[leaden rivet]

Is that not what I just said

Arsal

[ashen perch]

The purpose has been served

[leaden rivet]

Is that literally