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alright bro its locked in
yall still discussing 😭
Lol
Holy lurk dolfius
Revolutionary
i do be popping in
So nonch
the nonch propaganda is fading away
That your new nickname?
rokaya youre still in halloween
So?
I like that SPOOKaya
@hazy turret we got a mute in place for me 3 days if Loki's df is destruction df, and for 10 days for Abdi if it's solar / energy df. U gotta check on this when we ping to mute. If it's neither of the 3 then there is no mute for anyone.
hohokaya
is a cartoon fruit
tbf spooky season is over 
also if its neither of the 3 mute BOTH
What in the world is this bet
Why do you guys have different punishment times
that's what Nika df is
we're betting on what fruit loki has lol
cause I am more active
abdi barely has 5k messages
to make it even since im not that active here anyway
Alright ig
Lowkey though, you guys are kinda wusses for backing out from the mute if it’s none of the three
id be fine with that
Both should be muted because both were wrong IMO!
The Game?!?!
One Piece fans building up the courage to bet their firstborn child on something absolutely zero hints have been given of
we gotta stand on our convictions tbh
We all just lose the game…
if we wrong we wrong
one must be a winner for a bet to work, we will make a new one if none of the 3 are right anyways
no basically a fruit which only has toon force yk which is why hes a false nika
this mufugga
Anyways you both would have lost in that scenario
he's on a life irl tangent
HIIII
Oh my godd bruhh
I start my new job Monday
mute both of them for double the time if theyre both wrong
Yall should make something less specific
so without the power element ?
ye
like strength etc
Like if Loki's df changes his hair color or not
That’s what I’m saying
you of all people should be on the god of destruction train
hey that makes bets fun
ooooo that almost makes it a illusion df no
oh oop
Send me 60 bucks real quick
I have a few theories cooking
Just farted
Man I’m out
that used to happen to me with a lot of users. i used to get marin and sanjuan mixed up actually
3 days 10 days is a lot
tmi man... not cool
😭
3 days isnt that bad
imagine those 3 days are when some peak shit is going on
meek moment
and u just left out of it 
Who thinks its a destruction devil fruit?
hasn't happened in months
new user
hi!
Hathor does
That's a stupid, terrible idea
no he thinks its an energy fruit
i think its nika god of destruction
they're giving anyone mod these days good golly
This plus God of Destruction/Lunarian fruit
That’s not what this says
Oh
Guys
I’m a little slow
word last peak shit was the voting and the day that never existed
Nvm it’s not Hathor, it’s Abdi
I am saying it's the solar / energy df.
yeah
Nonetheless, I hate the idea
'solar' is better
^V
you're going to hate quarter 2 of 2026 bro
Oh I thought you were gonna do the funny “that’s a brilliant, wonderful idea” bit
seeing loki photosynthesize would be fun
Lol
Still, gomu stomps EVERYTHING
does it stomp hamster zoan
Anyways you’re all wrong and the fruit is 1000% gomu
I never said photosynthesis df
Prude
TRUUUUUE
Shit my bad
No
Imagine this but Loki
nah bruh
Shrimple 
like solar as in actual sun's energy
What
just did not want to bunch it up along with energy df ideas since it's specific
The plant vs zombies sunflower
i imagine taking in the sun's energy would help the user
Because photosynthesis
I hope Loki's tattoos have something to do with his DF
It'd be a shame if it's just Kata v2
What do we talking about man
Loki gets his belts from that same brand
Loki, Kaido and Katakuri all taking fashion inspiration from Rocks
looks like some bird wings
Fusion would be an okay idea because it ties into Vegapunk/mother flame stuff
i dont know how oda would balance a nuclear fusion paramecia
whiryu
Fusion is the sort of power where it's as powerful as it needs to be in any given circumstance
yeah i guess it is just basic energy
oda would probably want to put some kind of twist on it
also why are u green were u hacked or something
all a homage to their hero - brook
do you guys have any links to the energy df theory? like was there a youtube video made about it or something?
cause to me it seems kinda random
peak
i think hathor just came up with it
probably something to do with the whole god of destruction thing
i remember seeing it pinned on worstgen's twitter but i never actually read it
hathor has been saying energy df thing for a while
yeah
whats the deal with gunko
months i think
she old as shit
chosen by imu at a young age and groomed to be some kinda attendant/nun
it is random, I was just thinking about how ragnir would have stored up energy which gets converted to lightning on striking hard with something, plus what would make him think he was Nika.
I’ll pass the feedback on
ok him having that df would make ragnir make sense
Vincent chansard. He animated this sequence so well that people started saying that it was over animated
QRT: buffys
name a 10/10 artist
bro i loved this sequence
eh it wasn't much ngl bro was evading every attack but still it's an attack on someone chained up and helpless
out of all the stuff to be called over animated im fine with this instance
it makes it more fun
facts
Idk if he evaded everything but he anticipated everything correctly
I'm more mad that she killed the pets
Unforgivable sin
but we know thats not og gunko right
hachinosu was a movie man
Better hope not
the OST near the end too
its hard to say whats up with gunko
word, that wolfy was so cute. Reminds me of my neighbors old dog.
we see how when she meets brook she breaks and imu has to take the reins
she was definitely close with brook yeah
like whoever she was before the brainwashing
yeah
hard to tell ever since the manmayer reveal
it could have been Brook inspired a few moments of humanity in her etc
that part is kinda eh because it could just be some sort of adoption
He reminded me of like a combination of these two, moreso the one on the right
i dont know if she was really 'brainwashed' in the traditional sense, more like had memories of her childhood locked away
then raised as a CD
I feel like he's in a better place now tho
adoption would absolve her ngl
Yeah that makes more sense
kinda interesting watching sharlia's reaction to VC being said by VP btw
i'm thinking this, just raised on a scenario where yeah she's just over "the rest of the world"
she believes it
so it's not like CDs (new ones) are even completely aware of what their past is
yeah the CDs dont really learn the history either
theyre taught stuff like horror stories to fear from the past at most
the D get treated as boogeymen
Lol imagine Killingham using that power on the CDs
i think brook can mess with that tho and bring out some of her really old past so she breaks free
What do CDs even dream about
i hope she isnt just good once she reunites with brook
she should still have to reckon with her current life/stuff she was taught
my headcanon is that she's still mildly racist and pro slavery at times but then she corrects herself
Whitebread had one clash and decided to dip 
lobter
shes like 'you are a filthy fishm-sorry old habits jinbe my bad'
Yeah prolly, this is what made her remember
"dont worry im used to it by now"
lol
Mountains of slaves all to them
just noticed this again now but this looks like her god valley appearance
that SBS answer about vegapunk and being a CD was so deep i havent put enough skill points into my intellect to decipher it properly yet
i cant wait to learn whats up with gunko
still think this is like an older sister maybe
or her mother
yeah could be her mother or sister
Same
she still looks pretty regal/militaristic though
There's a buncha flashbacks this arc
this nose kinda pointy
we havent seen gunko's nose so we cant really say if its her
the usopp arc plot twist
real
she would be uhhh banchina's aunt or something
oh actually what if this is just before she gets the immortality thing

and has to start wearing a mask
why does this remind me of a movie poster with a big ass white tattoed wolf
the immortality is stored on the mask?
from 1165 I loved this interaction
Bandages of ambrosia
Same nigga dissing Rocks for doing the same thing to Loki
its kinda fun that oda did the 'kid appears to be older' thing with bonney and now we might get 'old lady appears to be younger' an arc later

I'm onto you WB
next we'll get middle aged person that looks middle aged

Lol I remember the Gunko being 16 theories
born purely out of fear of what oda already has done
WB would cook younguns too I am sure of it, but they all know how much the opponent can tank.
he would do some shit like that 100%
Dude just loves that number
holy Dragon 
i assume dragon quits immediately after this
Yeah Rocks just decided to do the upper half of whatever that is
Imu's dumbass with the Island never existed bs 😭 isn't this getting repetitive and pathetic or what
it makes sense
He might get hunted for what he saw
more or less, plus Rocks is a brute.
i think you could do something interesting with him getting arrested and garp getting him off the hook (and having to talk to him)
True but ngl I'm glad he kept Loki on Elbaph
Imagine 8 year old Loki on God Valley
we might get another Garp redeemed moment with the WG saying they are hunting Dragon's ass if Garp doesnt stay or something like that
CDs: AN EXCELLENT SLAVE, GARLING TAKE HIM
They didn’t even destroy it like they did with Lulusia he just be saying shit
Would've genuinely been over for bro
yeah 100% like we do NOT want Loki as a kid who just came out of darkness to witness the human hunt and whatever happened there
bruh it fucked BB up bad
Loki would've become the antichrist
Top 5 slaves maybe
also damn, Oda cooked by atleast letting us know Garp and Roger were aware of Rocks being unwilling to fight them.
o mein gott
Idk I just found it 
Ngl I dont like Garp having VOAT
narratively, it makes sense since Luffy has VOAT as well.
Why not
Love Garp but I dont think that fits his vibe
i think its ok, another point of equality between garp and roger
tru
just to hammer how matched they were at least on GV
Garp just wants to protect the Marines and serve justice, he doesn't have any major worldchanging goals
I think I have found what the key is, like listening to VOAT is super elite alright, but giving out VOAT is next level, how many chars have communicated a message via VOAT vs those that have recieved it, the later is a one way channel.

This SBS is pretty good proof that Oda's been planning G5 and Nika for a long time
I wonder if Garp intereacted with Dragon
@ashen perch @stone tulip @digital spear
so Garp having it is cool, but nothing to scoff over imo, since Oden, Roger, Luffy, Momo etc have it too.
I love Garp and him on GV but him having it just doesn't feel like him
esp Luffy having it just makes it feel like Garp naturally had it.
Kozukis, Joyboy crew, Rocks Roger and Luffy all make sense having it
But Garp isnt really like an important figure to the void century and the ancient history like the others are
we are not used to these levels of Garp gass, despite liking him as the marine vice admiral he has been throughout, but FB proves he was in the same tier as Rocks, Roger etc
He's just a strong guy believes in justice, protecting the innocent and who does what he wants
Dawg. Garp was the patriach of the legendary Monkey family who most likely was affiliated with Joyboy's crew in the Void Century. Emet and Zunesha could only talk via VOAT. It would also makes sense that those close to Joyboy would be able to understand and communicate via VOAT. My two cents at least.
D nontheless
like D's always will stir up a storm even baby CDs know as much.
saul D jaguar was not central either, but ends up saving the last Oharan etc
they just fill these crevices of critical roles somehow imo
Actually who else do yall think will have VOAT?
Loki
Loki
Vivi and Blackbeard feel like locks
is this real
hmmm whoever burnscar man is possibly, whoever eye patch man is possibly ..
that's everyone for now
Vivi, BB, Loki, burnscar, eye patch man.
goosebumps?
Jaguar, Monkey, Davy, Portgas, Clou, Gol, Nefertari, Trafalgar - All of these Will of D carrier lines most likely have the ability to communicate via VOAT. I would say the Kozuki clan is like a Faux Will of D clan, but they still are affiliated with Joyboy.
maybe loki is scary like a goosebumps novel
for the funni, I actually hope Loki does join Luffy and friends by the end of Elbaph, if Blackbeard could get a monster of a crewmate aka an ex-Admiral, why not a giant that terrorized an entire country and could maybe nearly rival that of an emperor at some extent at full power for Luffy :p
good theory socrates
Yea there are those who are the actual D clan, and then there are those who are descendants of groups that sided with Joyboy in the ancient war (kozukis, skypieans)
Dingling 
which rhymes with chingling...
eggnog is drank on december
I think Kozuki are just D clan members
i play a fan game that makes chingling not ass and its so cool that he's not ass
its possible
Roger is based. 
i love fangames that make pokemon not ass, but they change how i view them
Then again Oda would have probably revealed it during Wano, but he may still have a reason for hiding it
now i think of chingling as psychic sound type
Did you'all saw my robin edit? 
not yet namipoops show
was this too many types
no i did not
wonder if Vivi will officially adopt "D." as part of her name like Lili did :p
probably yeah

its her legacy now
this fangame gives up to 3 types
she is now Vivid
its pokemon auto ches
ah
chess
name?
theres also tectonic which gives pokemon tribes which are fun
Here you go
and theres a harmonic tribe which is like the sound type
I think you saw it
Too many types is like a meme game
peak thank you for sharing
pokemon auto chess
partially yeah
but it is pretty competent
oh i tried playing it but it was like
pvp
yeah I for once thought it was something new, ngl I have seen this old edit multiple times.
i wanted a pokemon game where the battles are just autochess
yeah it is. i was addicted to it like a 6 months ago
make something new cyg, lots of interesting panels now
isnt autochess usually pvp
I want to spread it to everyone 
oh i think theres a solo mode now actually
ah
yes and i hate it
an actual game you mean
lmao
i want like a pve autochess
yeah they have a pve mode now but i haven't tried it out
I like the energy, keep sharing it more.
i will check it out tomorrow
i think you click on the pokedex to get to it
oda did good this chapter
Factual
Least busy spread in a while
That’s def part of it actually
you mean theres no body parts crossing over panels?
But the sequencing and paneling are just 
What lol
Also hi butter
what if it was called twin geeks and it was just big bang theory but with twins
last time we got a spread like this was during luffy vs kaido
over 100 chapters ago
Which one
what if it was called twin greeks and it was about greek guys
Does that mean there would be two young Sheldon’s as well
okay twin greek young sheldons take it or leave it
The roc gatling vs kundali swarm I’m guessing
TAKING IT
eyyy sup
hold up let me find the gghead spread
Ahhh. I like this new one more tbh
young stephanos (plural)
welp dont remember chapter #
its the one where shakas head was crossing over other panels
lol I don’t remember that
A lot of one piece spreads lately are just soooooo packed and trying to work through so many people talking
Let’s kill a couple crew members and clean this up… bumsopp?
I’ve gotten used to the business of it lately but yea I’d like to see cleaner spreads again
oh it is im just pointing that out 
I thought you meant oda somehow fucked up lol
Man you know what’s a great spread? Luffy standing before the admirals in marineford
Marineford had such good spreads and clean art
Like what
I miss the precise lines and the sense of space that even the characters had in their design
the usual sizes
or properly visualizing haki
Ah
if you noticed theres always a debate about what haki is being used
it would have to wait at least, this is my weekend at work
a bit of clarity wont hurt
Take your tiiiime
True but so much of it is just people being dumb tbf
agenda slop

like this chapter for is a good example
they where using armament and coc
but no ACOA yet
so roger and garp manage to kill rocks without Acoa just Acoc
Wait how’s acoa relevant here
so where was she when shakky needed saving?
Ahhh
Getting that money
so ACOA aint all that
also establishing that DF/powers + haki > all
well obv
luffy will need to beat imus haki
even his punches vs saturn dint really hurt hurt him
im standing by what my boi jinbe said
rocks looks so insane in this panel his face almost looks like a completely different art style
If only god valley was drawn during PEAK Oda form
skypiea valley
ye
What’s the game lol
loki is probably the safest bet though i'm sure yall have already used him
Also why was cunk disqualified 
people that didn't answer in time got dq'd
game we started weeks ago where we pick a character who we think will appear next chapter and it cant be repeated
its been months hasn't it?
it probably has with the breaks
yall have been doing this since my school semester started i think
or before i mean
oh okay oops
What you just lost
Should have been playing rivals
the iconic trio
where is anime now in the manga?
oh i dint know the anime took a break without finishing the arc

the real monster trio is luffy usopp chopper

Anime is on break now?
I just watched recently too Butter
6months yeah since the 5th
had not followed the anime for months
Damn wtf
How is Kaido so grotesque while Yamato is so pretty when she's a direct child of Kaido
Where did the Kaido genes go except the oni horns
Now I need to see Yamato mom
I thought they were just gonna do the 3 month break after egg head is done
watched the ep from when VP takes them to the lab back to back till 1148
so wait there is no break only on oct 5th episode ?
What are you on. Kaido is handsome af
did they say why? is it for better production?
First of all, very rude calling Kaido grotesque
Kaido is ugly ash
Second of all, Kaido is a one piece male and yamato is a one piece female
Yamato's mom must be very pretty ngl.
Look at all this kaido slander
Kaido is glorious
My man is gorgeous
ty
If I were gay I’d fall for young Kaido
i should youtube all 5 gorosei summoning
@rapid ridge I need your input on how handsome kaido is
That’s me lately
I see a random shirt clip from a new episode and go see the stuff I want
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5lmdEWj9mc
ah there we go
One Piece Episode 1144
I applied cc just to let you guys know.
linktr.ee/voidmt
yeah but the whole episode was peak 😭
Have you seen luffy vs kizaru butter?
Man wtf. This doesnt feel like op
Whoever directed that is goated tho
there entire episode was directed by Vincent chansard and animated by his staff
gorosei theme music sounds great
It really does
Man this brings out the director in me
I used to have aspirations of that

I hope one day I can write and direct an animated story/film
u should watch Zoro vs lucci as well (it's in the same episode), they made like a 4 minute seq out of 2 panels or so but it looked so good
They’re still fighting???
it was that chapter where the fight endet
the big upgrade imo is the camera angles
Yup
Also everything is easier to follow now
It’s all very coherent and the transitions and cuts are smooth
I hated the shaky cane stuff we got in wano
I wish we'd get more episodes directed by him
Let’s hope
that part was fun to watch
when do I get pic perms
used to have them on my old acc
Level 10
lvl 10 i think

It’s genuinely impressive how smooth this animation is btw
Maybe I’m an animation pleb but it’s genuinely amazing
nah that was great
thats a great shot 
they did an amazing job
Dude so good

This is just pure beauty
nosferatu reference ye?
Was just about to post that. Love how they use the floor to cut the aspect ratio
Pirates of the Caribbean used that trick too
One of the most iconic shots using that technique
The transition with the falling rocks in that scene is marvelous too
Could be
This is exactly why I love adaptations man
Breathes new soul into the same great material
And many people get to shine showing their artistic vision


Is this fanart?
@wet heron @ashen perch @stone tulip @hot cairn I figured it out
Iva and Ginny are still on the island
That means Kuma isn’t gone. I think circumstances will lead to rocks hearing him say he saved a woman and baby from “that monster”(Rocks), and the joy/relief will break Rocks out of Domi Reversi
Maybe he dies to wounds becausw of that but he dies happy knowing he didn’t kill his own wife and child after all
Why was that one dude in Fishman Island named Hody Jones
Sounds kinda similar to Davy Jones
it was probably a reference to davy jones back then but i doubt he’ll actually be related in universe
Looks like Blackbeard as a child too
Yeah, I was thinking the same, he's got those three lines on his eyes
Most fishman have them
However, even franky has those three lines around his eyes
didn't they break him out of Domi reversi
in like the last 2 panels of the chapter
after their combined attack in the upper left corner the black shadow like thing is leaving his buddy
Are we eyelash counting?
Oh those are eyelashes
Idk. I don’t think it’s over tbh
I do lowkey put some stock in that cause usopp ans Blackbeard look a lot alike too
It's a pretty unique detail that few characters have
It is known
yo
how old is moria again during GV?
This?
Yuppers!!
Guys i just had like a shower thought....zunesha should be absolutely massive huge to be carrying a freaking country on its back plus the size of legs to stand on bottom etc..
A creature of that size should be creating a massive tsunami each step no?
Rocks saw them get popped but he probably does not know what happened, since he is unaware of paw paw no mi powers, Rocks maybe asks Kuma about it if Kuma passes by, but this too hyperbole, what are the chances Kuma is passing by casually near a demonic or half dead Rocks. Secondly it can't be VOAT I doubt he will be able to use it to get through to Kuma specifically. Under Domi Reversi I doubt anyone can fully know what is happening and see and feel and hear all the time, I imagine it must be more like vague glimpses and feeling of what is going on at times.
Iva and Ginny cross paths with the carnage with Rocks
Yea, and he says a long time here but he later even clarified that he has wanted to draw Wano since chapter 1
Fuck YEAH
Check your recent tag btw
NEOW
I was thinking that he'll die to his wounds when Domi Reversi is lifted too but this works a lot better than it just being lifted because he lost. I like it
We're going to get a full death for him, one that only Roger and Garp were witnesses for him
Also Shuron btw you know that Jay D clip you posted here? I just saw the dumbest guy post it on Twitter like he's making a good point 😭
Media literacy is a crisis on there
I did not know you had a twitter account and made posts too.
lol link me that if you can
Someone mentioned it earlier
YAYYY
😭😭😭
got a reputation to maintain
Caterpiller stuffed animals. With sneakers. Dancing.
This jingle has had a spot in my brain since I was a wee bab
It’s catchy af
Reminds me of some of the SNL skit songs and lost media / forgotten archives
If Triller Bark is God valley, this makes him choosing it as a base so ironic
That theory seems possible rn since WB broke one half
I don't see how it's ironic, but it is pretty crazy of him if it is
100% Agreed
︀︀Kaido randomy: "Err...I'm gonna make a crew of violence!"
︀︀Why? Dude had Whitebeard as a big brother like how you go onto enslave a country. Bro looked at God Valley and said "I wanna do this to"
This dude
Singlehandedly responsible for destroying Sengoku's reputation outside of his own actions
We know Oda never showed them getting off. Currently it's assumed they dipped out by then
I can still understand a few words they ought to make it 4x faster
The other half got broken also
Tbf who'd wanna hear him on regular speed
The concept of listening to him period actually is crazy but y'know
Is it Jay D? I didn't click the video
holon fr ??
Yes
Its the funniest when these people try to sound smart because all they'd have are buzzwords and gibberish that makes no sense
Yeah
This tho. When you always listen to someone complaining it really ruins your mood
https://x.com/pewpiece/status/1987101591829135845?s=46
the good thing about the seasonal format is no more dr chopper recaps😂
Well not true
Faxx sometimes people just wanna enjoy things 
You never know
I don't mind
Delays can still happen, anime production is tough
I like how it’s sped tf up for the third-grade level readers that’s gonna think this is heat
He's probably one of the people who got hypnotized during kaido's introduction and thought that he was the villain of all time
That intro when he jumped
I don’t mind either I don’t watch them
I thought Kaido was and then he was
but since it’s seasonal there’s probably gonna be a episode every week for it’s season
13 each
So we can assume Kaidou flew off the island
Oh in the aftermath it gets completely destroyed eh, I just thought that was a bad angle or clouds sheathing that segment, but coming back to GV being TB how tf would it be mobilised into a ship.
The only ones capable of that are the galley la giants btw
We don't know yet
Yeah, I feel like we didn’t see them get sent away csuse they’re still here
But what significance does GV hold for the WG to do that transformation and how does it end up with Moria.
I like the idea of it being the island that Shanks met Mihawk in more personally
And Moria has the fruit that can reanimate them...
Assuming that those were the giants that we saw frozen in Punk Hazard
They met in mariejois imo
what??😂😂
Nah I mean in present day, during Loguetown
wait a sec
I guess Oda could end up doing both but I like the natural progression of Shanks being on a remnant of God Valley, then presenting WB with a wine from his hometown
Like that clicks in super well, and I think Oda had GV in mind back then
Moria does not reanimate the mfs he implants shadow from someone else, but yeah they later on pick up skillsets of the original body too, it’s retained
I was hoping they were not dead, rather petrified
loki flashback
But being dead and WG / Moria using them this way makes sense
Assuming they were petrified
Still a good question, why did the gorosei or Imu put a hit out on Moria?
"a certain island" "camping on this island? how reckless." it indicates that Oda was thinking of making it a super important island, and it would be nice if it ended up being a remnant of GV now
It does look like a remaining GV
but like we saw in the panel it was levelled
Also how old is the facility on punk hazard exactly?
there are still smaller hills on there, this could be one of them
I was thinking goroseior sounds like a damn good pokemon name, idk maybe they did not put a hit he becomes a renown pirate they ally with him and he becomes a shichibukai right
another thing it could be is this part of GV that Xebec split up from the island
It is indeed interesting that Mihawk goes camping on this Island how careless as if no one is supposed to be there or something or it’s closely watched
I'm talking about why Donflamingo was ordered to kill Moria
this is the state of god valley at the end of last chapter^
cause he failed too many times and served no further purpose
Form my screenshot?
they had no need for a weak warlord
Assuming g he can reanimate the Galy la giants and control them, why kill him?
yeah that is what it came down to, they had just deemed him to be a failure that needed to be gone
why would they know or care about that
Another reason is that he can read the poneglyphs
Would make cross guild a legit contender to the one piece after that
another line that was never explained, could be that he is upset because this once used to be part of GV, his hometown
just saying, I like this idea more than the TB one
Oda can kinda do both if he feels like it, but this has more solid proof I feel
it being god valley would be fun but shanks wouldn’t remember anything from his experience there
i can’t imagine why it’d trigger bad memories
well yea, but he can still be upset
He had bad food last night hence the bad mood
There's a mountain on this island. Unlikely
he got sake from there and brought it to Newgate
yea thats what I am thinking
i’m still not on board with the idea of the sake being from god valley lol
i think the roger pirates just left him with i guess shakky on a west blue island and came back for him later
He does say it’s from his hometown
and that became his hometown
when i think of someone’s home town i think of it being the place where they were raised, not just where they were born
I have an explanation for that too, what if this part of the island drifted away when it was cut off
the part that Xebec cut is the part that Shanks camped on, it works
bb looks so much like his father.
eh, I do think he was raised on Roger's ship
i really just can’t see the roger pirates raising a kid
and we know shakky goes somewhere, so i think it works out
Ray and Roger talked about the experience of having babies on the ship before, when they were holding Hiyori
now maybe it was just about holding a baby that reminded them of holding babies before, but Hiyori was raised on there till Toki left when she got sick
When u piece everything together and have a cohesive theory ping me too Arsal
cause it might be GV after all
there’s also the question of how does shanks become close with/meet buggy
surely the roger pirates didn’t just pick up a random 12 year old they found
not gonna take credit of this one, somebody came up with it before
I just like the idea, and the pieces fall in place nicely
Right well whoever it is
This should be expanded
Cause even with TB and PH there are def connections
yeah I will see if I get the time
oh wait buggy was born in the grand line
buggy is the only yonko we don’t know exactly where he came from
everyone assumed god valley
Why tf were a bunch of giants in perma freeze up there, how does Moria gain all the Rocks pirates corpses (he raids places we know that but besides it), how does Moria gain TB, whatever happened to GV, now this random Island Shanks was camped at etc.
i’m hoping it’s nowhere special
but 95% of the time fan theories on what’s gonna happen don’t come out to be true unless it’s painfully obvious
Oda isn’t writing a predictable story
well
the main thing is that Oda is pretty consistent with the natural progression of each Shanks appearance, with each leading to the next one
Loguetown - ??
Jaya - He is said to be planning to meet WB
Enies Lobby - He meets WB, warns him of BB, etc
Marineford - He shows up and stops the war that had been building up since the beginning
sometimes he does hit the beats
Oda is very intentional with each of them, because they are rare
the whole cake island one didn’t really go anywhere lol
Btw if a portion drifted away that portion is more likely to have been made into TB and the other half becomes what remains of GV where Shanks camped
he said he was going to meet luffy soon then went to wano and decided not to
A piece of land drifting is what TB basically is. Moria would just have to encase it ez pz and build a ship around it.
eh it kinda did, he just decided against meeting him for some reason
maybe the g5 aspect
changed things
yeah, he wanted to intercept BB because he thought he'd show up to attack a weakened Luffy
but he didnt
instead he decided to wait up on Winner Island
but yea, I think where the Loguetown appearance fits in is by it being the source of the wine he gave to WB
well, the main purpose is to show Shanks react to him being a wanted pirate
But all the things that are mentioned there: Shanks being in a mad mood, it being reckless to camp out there on that certain island, it never went anywhere
Arsal why do you think that Shanks is the child of destiny?
I think he might be the descendant of Joyboy
the similarities between him and the silhouettes of Joyboy, the fact that Oda kept his mother a total mystery and that he is meant to contrast with BB as a character, who is the descendant of Davy
its a strong theory
yeah that would be very cool
i feel like it could also be that he is a D and a Celestial Dragon
I think there's more to it though, who knows if he is the only one
but it would be part of the Joyboy idea too tbh, as he would be the descendant of FIgarland and Joyboy's bloodline
yeah i wonder if shanks thought he would go there for the poneglyph or possibly the ancient weapon or something else .. he never said why he thought Teach would go there but guess it don’t matter now since he was wrong anyway
I think Oda is the child of destiny for writing this story 🙏 
probably just cause teach is like a vulture, he’ll pounce on any opportunity he can get
i’m hoping the direction oda goes in for the whole ‘child of destiny’ thing is roger setting up a bunch of expectations/lofty dreams for shanks when all he wanted to was to live a normal pirate life
it’d be funny if it was the ancient weapon he was worried about Teach coming for .. cause at that point Teach didn’t even know about it yet so Shanks timing was off cause now Teach knows about it due to caribou .. so basically Shanks came to & left Wano too early
Pirate Warriors soon
Lucci’s my main so getting an upgrade (should be an upgrade) is worth it anyway
But it really should be Kuma
I hope they didn’t fuck it up like hybrid Kaido
Who is worse than base Kaido
i don't think he's necessarily worse, he just has a different playstyle and less damage
imo he is way more fun to play than the normal one
plus being the giant he is, it's hard to be "bad" lol
CHAPTER OUT
Before roger started the great pirate era, at his execution, ask d. Question said he "found the one piece". The one piece existed and was common knowledge before roger, how? How do people know about the one piece if supposedly no one has been to laugh tale in 800 years?
Damn that’s a good question
Tbf didn’t he just ask him where he hid all his treasure
And not specifically the one piece
“The one piece” is a bit of a dubism, Roger himself never said that. He left it all in that place, because in Japanese you can use vague terms like that.
Following his execution, the world (so, Morgans via the newspaper) invented the term “the one piece” to describe everything that it is Roger gained. It is thus implied it is a treasure of unimaginable value, which we then later learn includes also the true history of the world and a physical object of importance.
The world at large doesn’t know what all it is that Roger gained, only that he had a treasure.
This treasure is often interpreted literally as a pile of gold and jewels beyond your wildest dreams.
yeah roger basically invented the idea of the one piece
As we just found out with Shakky, that very well may be false
it's just a picture of imu in a pink short skirt
I do imagine Roger left behind a pile of gold and jewels beyond your wildest dreams, in addition to what’s actually on laughtale
It’s not like he needed it
that’s basically guaranteed
yeah I am sure he did also leave all the wealth he had gained
Nami is gonna love that part of One Piece
yall im almost caught up but can you tell me - are we still in a flashback currently?
yeah we are
there is no wealth tho it was all a bait to get people interested
yeah ||god valley||
I kinda wish Roger had let his men keep some. Rayleigh seems to need money these days. Nobody planned for retirement? 😆
thats gonna take some more time lol
my boy is a free spirit. He doesnt need money
we'll likely be back soon, still need to know what happened with Harald and then we're back to the present
And yet he's selling himself for money?
Planning people. Planning
GD. Im on like 1155. So 10+ chaoters of a flashback is wild
roger is a fraud
Roger didnt account for his gambling habits
I know what it is. Shakky controls all the money in the family and Ray only gets a tiny allowance
riger didnt account for his illness either
I am sure Rayleigh could loot anyone to get the money he wants though, he's just having fun this way
the guy doesn't even need a boat to travel from one island to the next
Nah, he knows Shakky controls the purse in the household. So he tries to get some extra money where he can for fun things
yea, and he is in Sabaody where all the pirates going to the New World go through, he can rob any of them
lmao
I wouldnt blame her though, Ray cant be trusted with the money
yall ready for 10 more chapters of flashback?
10 is pushing it bro😂
that's what u get when u have a giant mommy wife and giant food rations
more like 5
6-7 max
Do we summon Avery
im gonna slow down my reading some. Long ass flashback
I am getting the feeling that Oda is ready to move on though, so maybe less than 6-7
I mean think about it. Rayleigh looks like he's 1 step away from poverty, but Shakky never looks shabby
then 3 real time chapters and 15 more of the gunkmu fb
there’s gonna be a big jump into the future, like it went from 56 years ago to 48 to 40 in One chapter
we still need to see roger crew recover shanks + rocks' death(?) + immediate aftermath of god valley
well
flashbaf
the narration at the end of the chapter kinda gave me the vibe that Oda might just straight up cutaway from here
I'm now wondering what Ace would be like growing up with Scopper rather than Garp. Having a much better provider and guardian
I hope its not true, but just saying, I wouldnt be surprised
Oda probably isn’t gonna go into too much detail for the 24 year gap between God Valley and the Castle incident, 2 setup chapters max
maybe 3
I think we're gonna see Harald's reaction to Rocks' death in the next chapter, then we're probably gonna skim through the years between GV and Harald's assassination and then we'll see how he died and who killed him
tbh that would be lowk rushed
We have to see Harald get closer with the WG, close enough to meet Shanks in there, and then the meeting itself. If Oda is feeling nice, he will also cover Saul settling down there and VP visiting the place. If Oda is feeling ultra nice, we will see Roger finally visit Elbaf and Gaban meeting Ripley for the first time.
I say we're gonna come back to present day Elbaf right after the next break
I hope this entire arc is flashback just so we don't have to see usopps cringe ass
I really doubt we'll see Saul settling in Elbaf
Roger Pirates visiting Elbaf would be a nice touch
if they circumnavigated the entire globe they had to have went there
it would be nice to see it now
Do you remember when people said it was Usopps arc?
Lol
It's been a while since we've seen Luffy
Loki and Harald should pop up again next chapter
The Roger pirates should find Shanks
its important though
yessir im excited to see how the strawhats handle the situation in elbaph
Lower expectations
if the Egghead finale is anything to go by
It's important but not so much we need to see it
im excited for koby
elbaf will fail
yeah, its odd that we have never seen him visit it before, it feels like its the right time to show it
Nah, it's Dragon time. I need to see what happens next
Egghead wrapped up nicely, despite being a very unconventional ending, so I will lift up my expectations
Does his plan here go through? Does the WG just kill all the people he tried to save? Where does Dragon go from here?
tons of people are stupid
i need to see the ideologies of dragon and garp clash post GV bruh, one insisting on changing the system from within and one from the outside
i hated how oda deployed all 5 gorosei at once, i expected one gorosei per upcoming arc
It had the 5 elders
and it still had no tension
you know oda is gonna skip
they did nothing pretty much
"muh steaks" in the big 2025
also now that i think about it, deploying all 5 gorosei elsewhere leaves mariejois completely vulnerable where imu doesn't normally look
I need Garp to actually say he's trying to change something and actually show intent in doing so. That's my biggest difference between Garp and Dragon.
sb do you hate the gorosei
This is oda 15, oda 14 would have skipped god valley
love them
i think that's the path oda paved for garp, him bearing the weight of having to be called the "hero" of this incident while saving all the marines and civilians from getting executed
but they were pretty disappointing in Egghead
He knew he was going to have them die in the next arc, so he needed them to get all their laughs out then
a lot of people in this chat share the same opinion that having all 5 gorosei at Egghead was a bad move
They did what they set out to do, show off. That was their only goal. Oda couldn't have them kill anyone yet
I disagree, last time we saw Saul, he still had beef with the Elbaf's giants and Elbaf also is generally bigoted against his kind of giants. He is also from the same sea as Ida so that also is important. I think Oda has to address it
so aura farming?
idk why people actually expect current day Elbaf to be better than GV
you're crazy lol
People don't want to admit it, but things actually worked out pretty well here for the WG
because the bar is extremely low
it’s gonna be 5 times better
tbh they only retreated because it was joyboys haki the literal top 1 in history
"why do people expect current day Elbaf to be better than Syrup Village"
I bet everyone will switch up
okay now comparing god valley with syrup village is pushing it
Because god valley is ass
Maybe, though I won't expect anything big
joyboy and imu are on another level
god valley other then 1 fight between rocks roger and garp and a good emotional moment between rayleigh and shakuyaku, what else happened there?😂
genocide
i thought the GV shade would be limited to twitter but nah 😭
I will admit Rocks was finally a real character in his final moments
I want to see Whitebeard, Graham and Marco interacting 🥰
yeah this chat mostly hates GV
I never said God Valley was bad
And it's ironic because it wasn't really him
imu saved elbaf too I was about to crash out with the kidnapping plot
i pray that we see Garp and Dragon interact next chapter
i been praying for 6 chapters brother
I like God Valley but it’s not gonna be better then the current arc😂
maybe even the conversation that leads to Dragon's departure from the Marines
only?
People didnt believe me that people hated the kidnapping plot
I told them that before Imu showed up, people hated it
nobody believed me
even arsal hated it
eh, a chapter or two of addressing it would be nice atleast. I think Ida was the reason why Saul was allowed to stay, so that sort of thing has to be important
Main arc Elbaf is perfect, I have zero complaints
i mean it was definitely a good way to bring everyone to GV
I said it felt directionless
I think they are going to just miss each other. Garp is out of commission after this. He'll be on his ship and Dragon meanwhile will have to runaway from all this
present Elbaf is not only the situation happening right now, there can also be cutaways to other places like holy land, and plot twists with ppl showing up on the island unexpectedly too
i don’t know if i’d call it good but it was certainly a way
i think it would be a miss, if we didn't get anything from them interacting 
why would anyone believe you anything, considering you are making shit up constantly and ragebait constantly
"i didnt find any of the justice they wear on their backs" dragon's lines hit different
but i really hated how they ALL started simping for shakky like come on there's no stoic character like luffy or something?
I dont always do that
We were not seeing it go anywhere, the HKs were good but with Shamrock having left, it was difficult to imagine them being the central antagonists of the arc
and another lie
dragon will dip once they get to safety
now that Imu has showed up and cleared it all up, I like that part, it was good. It was necessary.
Dragon has been the higlight of God Valley to me
rocks literally had a wife and a child, why would he, uhhh
or maybe they don't even do anything to him since garp attacked imu and was forgiven
this was before
oh ok
oda probably saved dragon getting his fruit for his flashback, i thought he would get his fruit near the end of GV then dip on some flying shit
he stopped being a weirdo after he got a wife and child
Present Day Elbaf has been really great and I can't wait to see where it goes, its not crazy to prefer it over GV
so he does become stoic
i've seen people say that a slave would offer it to him, in return for saving them
but i don't know
i’m not really looking forward to the imu stuff in elbaf but i’m excited to see how everything else turns out
still seems out of character for him to fold like that tho
I wanted it more than anything, but the way it's set up. It feels like they're not going to meet at least not here, By the time Garp will even realize Dragon was on GV, will probably be after Dragon has already run away from being courtmarshaled/ executed.
it gave us a new insight on his characterization and what led him to become the man he is today. I’d say 10/10 for him, he was also an unexpected addition which was great
I agree yeah
can't even slander rocks correctly smh
WB as well
hopefully we at least get to hear their inner thoughts about eachother, especially Garp



