also-manga

[digital spear]

Dang

[runic dock]

Ohara was also deleted but not actually (rubble ) they don’t have fuel to nuke it

Best they can do it bombard it

And then moria can come any time

Doesn’t have to be right away

[warm cradle]

It's very weird cuz the island is in West blue and thriller bark in grandline

[digital spear]

But how does Moria find it and make it mobile

[runic dock]

Moria is from west blue

[digital spear]

^

Thriller Bark is from the west blue

[warm cradle]

And how will he take it past the red line?

[formal wagon]

not luffy

[runic dock]

The contraption around thriller bark helps I’m sure

[formal wagon]

or robin's flashback

OR OR OR whiskey peak

[runic dock]

He made it to hachinosu too btw

[vestal heath]

BB will be the final villian idc what anyone says

[runic dock]

How do you explain that

[urban lodge]

Lots of time and effort

[digital spear]

He went the reverse mountain way

[warm cradle]

It ain't fitting 😭

[digital spear]

He somehow did it idk

Woria

[brittle basin]

Who the heck is Luffy?

[ornate tartan]

some ppl agree some ppl don’t like it
i think it’s a good discussion nonetheless

[sage temple]

Wait doesn't Thriller Bark live in that fog cloud

[urban lodge]

He knows someone who has the opposite of Biblo's fruit

[formal wagon]

you do not wanna know 🤣

[sage temple]

It'd be sick if Imu just creates a fog cloud consuming miles around God Valley ngl

Unless the island just moved

[runic dock]

I think this device somehow helps move shit

Circular

[ashen perch]

True

[formal wagon]

Hot take: thirller bark is a very large boat

lmk

[runic dock]

And the castle he himself built afterwards

[sage temple]

I wonder what it looks like underwater

[brittle basin]

who the hell built all this?

did he use zombies?

[digital spear]

Its a ship that originates from the west blue, went to Wano, went back to the Florian triangle where the mist is, and last seen in Hachinosu

[ashen perch]

I know I have said true to that multiple times but it really is very true, Tekking is right

[sage temple]

I feel like it would have the same appearance as like impel down or something and the thing is literally rooted into the ground

[runic dock]

Maybe zombies yeah , gotta wonder how he even got the circular device to begin with

[dapper tree]

it's the biggest boat

[brittle basin]

Tekking is always right 'cause he's a nerd.

[runic dock]

It moves

He moved it to hachinosu

[formal wagon]

wait till you see thillest bark

[ashen perch]

Idk about always I haven't seen enough to know

[grand flower]

do yall think we're supposed to think chopper's df looks like a penis?

[sage temple]

Why would God Valley move

[brittle basin]

Thiccest Bark

[runic dock]

Why would any island move? I’m talking about thriller bark moving to begin with

It’s already happening

You have to accept it’s possible for islands to move

[formal wagon]

mushroom

[ornate tartan]

these mfs eyes crazy😭😭

[sage temple]

Oh I thought thriller bark was a island looking ship not a ship looking island

[dapper tree]

Sanji and Zoro's fights

[formal wagon]

someone post the damn chopper image

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-seuss-cat-in-the-hat-story-time-childrens-book-gif-7911933

[brittle basin]

Mario mushroom.

[frail cradle]

thriller bark is the first

[tranquil blade]

Zoro and Sanji fighting two Harald level characters

[sage temple]

first what

[runic dock]

Ilook at it , that shit is an island , there is earth and rock and all that shit , buildings on it you can live on it , it’s extremely large that when oars was rampaging he didn’t even take up all the islands space

[frail cradle]

island looking ship

its an island on a ship

[dapper tree]

they the strongest ones after Imu right now

[tranquil blade]

I actually dont believe each one is Harald level but I remember someone saying it and it was kinda funny

[runic dock]

He spruced it up a bit and added a circle device that helps it sail

[dapper tree]

They could be now

[tranquil blade]

I forgot who said it I think it was a mod

[urban lodge]

They're Harald level combined

[tranquil blade]

Well individually idk about all that lol

[frail cradle]

rocks + roger = harald

[tranquil blade]

but together I could see

[runic dock]

My take away from this chapter is chinjao was Harald level in his prime

[urban lodge]

Truuuuue

[runic dock]

You can’t really prove that wrong

[brittle basin]

My takeaway from this chapter is I want the next chapter.

[dapper tree]

eh maybe, can't really say where harold for sure was but clearly Dorry and broggy got upgraded since they showed back up in the current day

[urban lodge]

One of the first things that came to my mind is that this is crazy Chinjao upscale

[tranquil blade]

but Garp didnt use no touching coc against him

[brittle basin]

too bad Oda doesn't remember who Chinjao is.

[grand flower]

that's an armament haki thing

[pseudo gulch]

I fw this

[grand flower]

King's haki just makes it bigger

[tranquil blade]

Yeah I know but he probably does have it is what I mean

Tho idk

[grand flower]

i guess they just idn't have a reason to

[blazing mantle]

The most forgotten coc user

[frail cradle]

GV rocks + GV roger = Domi Rocks

Base Rocks = Base Harald = Prime PK roger = Prime Garp = Prime WB

[dapper tree]

Chinjao was always super strong

[sage temple]

This is what I imagine they look like

[formal wagon]

but if you really think about it though you'll realise that egghead ending in december isn't such a bad thing

[urban lodge]

Chinjao was probably an actual monster in his prime though, like unironically

[sage temple]

Which is why I'm confused

[runic dock]

They held back 😌

[urban lodge]

Him being washed now doesn't mean much

[dapper tree]

that math ain't mathing

[blazing mantle]

Every dead coc user

[runic dock]

We know that TB has already moved locations tho , and we don’t really know what under GV looks like , it’s pure headcanon

[final trench]

Bro was headbutting continents

[tranquil blade]

Roger the equals man

[runic dock]

For sure

[blazing mantle]

Equal to xebec garp and whitebeard somehow

[tranquil blade]

Saturn feels so weird amongst these guys, all these goated pirates and then just him

[runic dock]

Notice how they even have slightly similar facial hair

[tranquil blade]

and Shiki dont forget

[runic dock]

They got that I’m a strong leader of a nation facial hair

[blazing mantle]

Oh yeah

[sage temple]

Wait a minute Loki killed Domi Harald though

GV rocks + GV roger = Domi Rocks

Base Loki > Domi Harald
Domi Harald > Base Harald

Base Rocks <? Base Loki > Base Harald = Prime PK roger = Prime Garp = Prime WB

[blazing mantle]

Isn’t that just Shiki upscale though

[formal wagon]

wait... is all this egghead buisiness just another one of kaido's rumors?

[ashen perch]

Yes.

[sage temple]

Oh alr

[tranquil blade]

Was it you who said it?

[sage temple]

Thanks

[olive sigil]

Who told you about Ziguma?

[blazing mantle]

Will gunko do something next chapter @urban lodge

[ashen perch]

I think Zoro v Mihawk might really happen soon

[blazing mantle]

Predict the future

[blazing mantle]

I heard it a long time ago

[urban lodge]

No because Oda sucks

[olive sigil]

I invented Ziguma 5 years ago

[ashen perch]

So Zoro's preparation is beating Dorry

[brittle basin]

blahblah + blah=blahblahblah>blahblah

[blazing mantle]

He’s claw guy right

[tranquil blade]

Were you the one who said they were that strong?

[ashen perch]

The world's strongest swordsgiant

Yeah

[urban lodge]

I thought we'd see what led to her being promoted to knight

[olive sigil]

Yeah higuma’s older brother

[blazing mantle]

Is harald worlds strongest giant

[urban lodge]

Since she wasn't one at the time

[olive sigil]

Sanjuan exists

[blazing mantle]

Bro thought Oda would do something with the group of holy knights that got their own page

Silly penny

[ornate tartan]

bro Loki is strong but he’s not THAT strong😂 my goodness

there’s no confirmation on what happened in the castle yet either

[sage temple]

Weird way to say Loki but yes

[tranquil blade]

Prime Oars the strongest giant in history

[blazing mantle]

😯

Prime oars

Oh my god bruh

[sage temple]

I'm just saying as of now and what the giants have told us, Loki is basically there

I'm a gullible sheep

[urban lodge]

They'll be sbs characters 💔

Fate worse than death

[ornate tartan]

Loki played a big part but there has to be a twist

[ashen perch]

Also, Loki didn't kill Harald alone, there were 100 Royal guards, finest Elbaf Warriors + Jarul that helped him

[blazing mantle]

There’s hope for sbs characters though sometimes

Characters made in an sbs can appear in the story

[sage temple]

Yeah maybe that was the case

[runic dock]

Those guards ain’t doing shit to demon body Harald

[sage temple]

I'm just going off of what the giants told us basically

[runic dock]

Loki probably was the only one who could hurt him

[wet condor]

Outside of being a vice admiral

or a giant

or a giant vice admiral

[sage temple]

I wasn't agenda posting I was just using the story

[urban lodge]

Lmao

[ashen perch]

Doesn't matter though, still helped

[sage temple]

But we did see the guards stab Harald

[lofty fern]

I have a feeling they died long before Harald did

[urban lodge]

Vice admirals will be cool again when the Sword gang is promoted

[ornate tartan]

the giants most likely don’t know the full truth

Even Jarul thinks Loki is the one to blame when he clearly isn’t

[sage temple]

We still don't know that much of what happened

Loki might've killed the guards

In response to seeing them hurt his dad

[blazing mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-tashigi-tashigi-one-piece-marines-glasses-gif-7401422110964180135

[urban lodge]

Koby and Grus as admirals

Kujaku, Hibari and Helmeppo as VAs

[ashen perch]

I don't see why they wouldn't play a part but we'll see I guess

[urban lodge]

Oh and Drake

[tough igloo]

one thing is for sure … the story that elbaf is telling of what happened the day that harald died and blaming loki for everything isn’t the real truth

[lofty fern]

Also I now realize why Sommers said what he did about Sham visiting Harald's grave. I think Shanks and Sham were friends with Harald when he came to Marijois.

[digital spear]

Yo this is cool

[digital spear]

So glue

[urban lodge]

Let's include Tashigi too because why not, she's not sword but she's one of the good marines

[frozen ravine]

i wonder if we'll get lokis backstory now that rocks is dead

[ashen rose]

I'm back, still discussing eyes?

[lofty fern]

Probably the same way Kaido, BM, and WB didn't play a part in killing Rocks

[blazing mantle]

Smoker will be back

[ashen rose]

Doubt it, there's not much time still

[sage temple]

Yeah it's all we have for now

[ashen rose]

There's still gunkos flashback remember

[frozen ravine]

i dont think we're getting gunkos backstory on elbaf

[tough igloo]

we ain’t gettin that here imo

[grand flower]

I've been rereading punk hazard and smoker's fruit is mad pleasing visually

Maybe Smoker is the Nika logia man...

[blazing mantle]

You get it

[sage temple]

I hope so

[grand flower]

I want it to be Loki but sheesh if it's smoker??

[sage temple]

I hope we see Loki v Shanks

[blazing mantle]

Don’t switch up when smoker is the first confirmed awakened logia

[lofty fern]

I think it's partially the truth. I think Loki did kill Harald and Harald was also a victim here. It's all the in between parts that have been lost

[tough igloo]

i can see gunko flashback coming later on .. i don’t see oda jumping from harald/rocks flashback to then go into another flashback for gunko in the same arc

[ashen rose]

Loki vs shanks and shamrock

Most likely shameock

Shamecock

[hazy echo]

huh

[frail cradle]

he gets into people’s lung and beat them up from inside

mortal kombat style

[blazing mantle]

That’s more like it

[ornate tartan]

is the reason oda brought back rayleigh and gaban is because the holy knights are going to jump rocks roger and garp

there has to be a reason Oda introduced them in a group, for them to do absolutely nothing was unexpected😂

[sage temple]

I mean in the flashback where Loki gets imprisoned I want to see what lead up to his capturing

[ashen rose]

Avatar

[tough igloo]

i feel like loki vs shanks gonna be off screened lol

[grand flower]

Smoker will debut logia awakening while fighting crocodile to bring it full circle that they were the first two logias introduced and smoker got false credit for crocodile's defeat @ashen perch @digital spear @stone tulip @hot cairn MARK MY WORDS

[ashen rose]

Probably the whole domi reversi and misunderstanding stuff

[frail cradle]

smoker get into people’s organs and give them cancer

[grand flower]

MARK THEM

[tough igloo]

i don’t have faith in oda to show that fight lol

[blazing mantle]

Why didn’t you ping me in this

[inner agate]

its gonna be off screened or one haki clash

[tough igloo]

if it was even a fight or oda just glazes shanks even more and say he one shot loki too lol

[grand flower]

my fault

[sage temple]

Why didn’t you ping me in this

[blazing mantle]

Cause you’re Socrates

[grand flower]

id rather put my hands on you

[sage temple]

Oh yeah your fault I see must've been a mistake

[tranquil blade]

Interesting, I do agree it probably will be Smoker

[ashen perch]

I bet it wasn't

[ashen rose]

I doubt he's actually going to fight shanks, like, shamrock is right there, Blackbeard is going to be the one who fights shanks

[grand flower]

YAYYYY WHOOO YAYYYY

[sage temple]

Ah no mistake I see 😭

[ashen perch]

True

[tough igloo]

i’m talking about the flashback

[grand flower]

YAYYY WHOOO YAYYYY

[tough igloo]

when they fought in the past

[tranquil blade]

Crocodile should be the other one but idk if Oda will do it

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-zoro-vs-king-king-of-hell-one-piece-1062-episode-1062-gif-16340763784012771786

[ashen rose]

Oh, yeah then probably off screen

[frozen ravine]

smoker is getting the same power up as crocodile and law, and when he comes back he'll be as strong as zoro

[grand flower]

yes he should he SHOULD ARGHHHH

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-friends-smiling-friends-season-3-season-3-mr-boss-mr-boss-smiling-friends-gif-5727831584394923041

[lofty fern]

What even is BB's deal with Shanks.

[tough igloo]

feels like the other way around

[ashen rose]

Gotta love logia users breaking powerscale

[urban lodge]

I remember seeing someone saying that maybe Karasu is a hint at logia awakenings because he does some really weird stuff with his fruit

[trim lily]

smoker better have the first logia awakening

[grand flower]

@sage temple okay i do actually have a theory to share with you

[ashen rose]

I CAN GO FASTER I CAN GO FASTER I CAN GO FASTER

[tough igloo]

Teach never mentions shanks but shanks is the one who seems concerned with Teach

[grand flower]

mood

[sage temple]

[ashen rose]

He scarred him

[grand flower]

SIKE

https://tenor.com/view/anime-monkey-d-garp-one-piece-laugh-happy-gif-12666895

[sage temple]

🙁

[grand flower]

YA BEEN GARPED

[trim lily]

karasu is what made me lock in logia awakenings letting you make creatures or stuff

a lot of logias make animal-like things with their power

[sage temple]

Mods lets take care of this one in a jiffy alr

[lofty fern]

Yeah but like why did Teach fight Shanks out of the blue?

[grand flower]

switch that m to a g and you still ain't gon have good enough allies

[ashen rose]

Probably when they were kids

[urban lodge]

Yeah and in his case it's especially weird because he can basically create independent sentient crows

[wet condor]

I feel like that was a matter of circumstances aligning

[rich hornet]

Shanks sees Teech. Teech likes to work under the radar, he doesn’t want anyone blowing up his spot

[wet condor]

I don't think either them went out of the way to fight each other

[ashen rose]

During the whole WB vs Roger duels

[trim lily]

if grus’ fruit is a logia then it may as well be confirmed

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-idk-dexter-innocent-gif-10412116

[tough igloo]

yeah that’s what’s confusing .. idek why teach snuck off WB in the first place …. maybe it got something to do with a DF … maybe like Luffy in Jaya , Shanks could just tell there something bad about Teach and they fought

[ashen perch]

I liked the animal idea once but I feel Oda would want to do something crazier with Logia awakenings than that

[grand flower]

when i poop for the first time in my life, i'll be sure you're the first to know with a shit pic my guy

[trim lily]

i really can’t think of what else could possibly be there for logia awakening that they can’t do already

[tough igloo]

imagine if shanks initiated the fight with Teach back then lol

[ashen rose]

He was adopted by whitebeard

[trim lily]

the main problem with logias is they can already do basically anything

[sage temple]

Shuron is a newborn confirmed

[ashen perch]

Like Akainu launching a hundred magma dogs upon his enemy sounds cool but there's gotta be something else Oda can come up with, idk

[sage temple]

Dude hasn't pooped yet

[rich hornet]

Most people poop before being born

[ashen rose]

I mean, he's literally rocks kid, and Newgate is definitely not going to be taking care of him

[sage temple]

Shuron is a zygote confirmed

[tough igloo]

maybe Teach & Shanks fought over the Nika fruit in the past and that’s how it happened lol

[wet condor]

I have a strong hunch that Shanks knows that Blackbeard is Rocks' son. But I don't think that's why fought?

[wet condor]

This could be it

[ashen perch]

Really, Oda might have to go stupid with it like letting Kuzan freeze time at this rate

[trim lily]

yeah sure why not

[wet condor]

They were both on the search for the needed DFs

[ashen perch]

Akainu uh, melts time

[rich hornet]

Ice time

[trim lily]

swamp time

[grand flower]

God shot me right into the world

[ashen perch]

??

[grand flower]

sorry

[hazy echo]

I think Punk Hazard is probably what awakening Logia’s in full is like

[grand flower]

i got a little carried away

[ashen perch]

Ah

[sage temple]

I trust mods will take care of this one

[trim lily]

but punk hazard didn’t really require anything special

they just used their fruits a lot

[ashen rose]

Character development

[sage temple]

Lets get to warning Arsal-chan

[tough igloo]

yep could be both got a lead on it somehow (maybe teach heard WB talk about it or something ) ran into each other and fought over it in that moment and neither got it until shanks got it later on

[sage temple]

[grand flower]

warnings don't work on me, i don't listen

[sage temple]

Merry 2.0

[rose brook]

chills.

[ashen perch]

He does have a lot of warnings and the ice is kinda thin

[trim lily]

shuron has the meek armor

[ashen perch]

You gotta chill out frfr

[sage temple]

More or less than me

[ashen rose]

One more warning and I'm fucking banned :(

[ashen perch]

I didn't count

[sage temple]

Oh

[ashen perch]

I think its gotta be less than you, without even looking

[sage temple]

[tough igloo]

I do wonder if Loki ever found out that Rocks had a kid .. did Harald even bother telling him .. I could see him not saying anything about it lol

[ashen rose]

Socrates what did you do bro?

[sage temple]

I don't rly think so

[grand flower]

me?

[sage temple]

Unwritten rules

[grand flower]

i've only been warned twice actually

[woeful moth]

Harald will not tell anybody anyway... its their secret as bffs

[grand flower]

you know what's actually funny, like i couldn't even really be mad

[ashen rose]

Meh, probably not, but it would definitely be very funny if he encountered teach the same way he met rocks

[ashen perch]

everybody should always assume they're walking on thin ice

[ashen rose]

Same

[frozen ravine]

smoker cant be the first awakened logia, this guy already is

[grand flower]

one time socrates said "on my life" and i said "then die" meaning i didn't think what he was talking about was remotely true

[tough igloo]

end of elbaf we see straw hats reading the newspapers in elbaf with a headline of Teach demands for Garp , Loki sees the paper and immediately says “ Rocks ?!!”

[grand flower]

and i got a warning for wanting him to die lolol

[blazing mantle]

Not awakened just modified

[ashen perch]

Oh yea thats my fault, I caused that rule to happen

[trim lily]

this isn’t that weird for a logia

[frail kindle]

MY EMOTIONS

[sage temple]

Oh yeah I put that one in motion

[ashen rose]

Hi glex

[blazing mantle]

Ceaser lowkey has like top 5 devil fruits of all time

[grand flower]

i see

[trim lily]

the gas fruit is extremely strong

he just got unlucky fighting luffy

[ashen perch]

By telling people to die very often, basically

[ashen rose]

He just got unlucky he's stupid

[grand flower]

i have a friend who loves zendaya

huge crush on her

[ashen rose]

Bruh

[grand flower]

another friend of mine started talking shit about her

he immediately replied with "yeah you can go ahead and die"

that shit kills me to this day

so ignorant lmao

[ashen perch]

Look, I said it a lot in like real life, as banter with my friends

Its not meant to be serious smh

But I can understand it not coming across that way to everybody

[rose brook]

https://tenor.com/view/god-enel-vs-monkey-d-luffy-akuma-no-mi-logia-gif-17601549989024955228

[ashen rose]

Learn to respect opinions vs Kiss Yourself

[latent hamlet]

Banter is odd cuz its mostly contextual

[grand flower]

same. when i said it to socrates, it was this exact same energy https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nOsOaxNS2FA

[runic dock]

Flashback to the time Kaido screamed at the top of his lungs DONT LET HER IN!!! in regards to big mom entering wano

[grand flower]

cause i thought he meant "on my life" when he said "oml"

[ashen perch]

Yea exactly, I used to say it with that guy's energy lmao

[grand flower]

but i've learned some people say that to avoid saying omg

[frozen ravine]

i can see that being awakening too

[ashen perch]

I love that clip

[grand flower]

lol yeah i meant it to convey like

"what do you expect me to do about it"

not a death threat lmao

but yeah anyway for realsies arsal am i on thin ice cause i be big steppin

[rose brook]

if anyones awakening a logia its probably enel

[grand flower]

it's the one that made me start watching his videos, that shit is funny as fuck

[blazing mantle]

Why does she still listen to streusen I always wondered that

[sage temple]

How many warns until I'm banned

3?

[runic dock]

These two were so fucking clueless at god valley it’s no wonder they took 40 years to get to this point

[icy wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-aramaki-green-bull-admiral-greenbull-transform-gif-152509709071921712

[ashen perch]

You do have enough warns tbh but it's not deadly serious yet

[runic dock]

That’s her boi apparently lol was there since she was a kid

[grand flower]

gulp i better be careful

[runic dock]

But not a husband because she dumps those

[blazing mantle]

There’s a theory that he’s peros father

[ashen perch]

But anyways, one piece one piece one piece

[trim lily]

i love one piece

[runic dock]

Nope

[ashen rose]

Is real

[grand flower]

my genuine reaction to that information https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3qV4x1eiPw

[runic dock]

I don’t buy into it

[sage temple]

Ah thanks for answering I see

[ashen perch]

Logia awakenings, right

[frail cradle]

just read guys. please.

[grand flower]

One Piece won peace

[trim lily]

no

[ashen rose]

Oof

[frail cradle]

read slowly with comprehension.

[tough igloo]

at this point what seems like the most likely option

1.) Shamrock talking about Luffy or Loki or Blackbeard

2.)Shanks talking about Blackbeard

3.) Shamrock talking about a pirate that nobody has guessed

4.) Shanks talking about a pirate that no one has guessed

[trim lily]

personally i’d rather complain about something that will likely change in the next chapter

[hazy echo]

https://youtu.be/Wo-cIKIOwwE

[sage temple]

Oh yeah I forgot I had a theory that this was Loki

[hazy echo]

Japan really likes S Snake huh

[blazing mantle]

Oda said big mom usually kidnaps men to get more children so the theory is probably not that right anyways

[trim lily]

blackbeard i guess

[ashen perch]

I hope Oda has cool ideas for them, I trust his creativity tbh

[trim lily]

i guess it could be loki but he hasn’t been a pirate for 5 years

[frail cradle]

i hate the milking in this game, i already 100% the thing in 2024

why they not just make OP Warriors 5

[runic dock]

Yeah the way they act around each other wouldn’t make sense for him to be a dad of any sort that’s all

[trim lily]

money

[latent hamlet]

Plot twist
They are
But why not milk some more

[hazy echo]

Not enough new stuff

Like at best you’re getting full Wano and Egghead

[ashen rose]

The duality of men

[latent hamlet]

Also if they do pirate warriors 5
They'd have to do wano for real and egghead
And then uhhh
Fake Elbaf

[sage temple]

Still has a 2.6b bounty and he was asked to be a HK

[trim lily]

yeah

[hazy echo]

It’ll prob be better to wait until the series end for PW5

[olive sigil]

Wooooo

[trim lily]

so it could be him but it could also not be

[latent hamlet]

Elbaf gets a made up ending where Imu shows up and he's the final boss

Luffy does a gear 5 punch with Sabo and Bonney combined

[trim lily]

i’m leaning more to not

[olive sigil]

COW PIECE IS REAL 🐮 🐄

[runic dock]

True tbh , all these characters will be in PW5 when elbaf finishes, no dlc needed

[latent hamlet]

Remember in pirate warriors 3
Luffy duos with Sabo to beat doffy

[runic dock]

Elbaf finishing in 2027

[ionic palm]

oh sure, just give it like 3 years

[frail cradle]

true

[blazing mantle]

Those warrior games and their random ass endings

[hazy echo]

https://tenor.com/view/oden-haki-one-piece-kozuki-oden-pirate-warriors-gif-25566762

[runic dock]

[frail cradle]

wano took too long.

[ionic palm]

with about 100 chapters maybe :3

[latent hamlet]

In 4
They jumped kaido with kuzan Cavendish barty zoro sanji carrot law and kidd i think

And luffy won with a gear 4 snake man unique technique

[runic dock]

Accurate af oden

[blazing mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/gear-5-luffy-pirate-warriors-4-transformation-videogame-gif-5079750299470447878

[ashen perch]

I'd just prefer a new game to PW5 but it's better than yet another dlc I guess

[hazy echo]

Nah Zoro and Sanji was for BM

[frail cradle]

at 4 they had to headcanon the wano arc ending because it wasnt ended yet

[blazing mantle]

One piece fighterz

[hazy echo]

PW4 had the entire Straw Hats against Big Mom

[trim lily]

man what a waste of a dlc the young rayleigh one was

[latent hamlet]

Cuz the arc was unfinished i think or too close to its finish idunno
Pirate warriors 3 was 2015

[ashen perch]

God please

[hazy echo]

Yea it’s usually like a timing thing

PW3 released in the middle of Dressrosa

[latent hamlet]

Nah im talking about the final boss kaido fight
They had zoro and sanji there too
But they were like
At the side

[hazy echo]

And PW4 was Wano Act 1

[sage temple]

Sounds like peak

[runic dock]

2d op fighting game would be sick

[hazy echo]

Oooh yea they were cheer squad iirc

[latent hamlet]

If only

[trim lily]

people say this but i guarantee it’d die within 2 months lol

[runic dock]

Seriously criminal there isn’t a modern 2d op fighting game

[hazy echo]

Young Rayleigh’s fun

[tough igloo]

they got more than enough characters and unique powers

[blazing mantle]

Too bad the only thing Bandai knows how to put out is more xenoverse 2 dlc

[latent hamlet]

Ok but here's the problem about proper 2d fighting game one piece

Ahem
Who gets on the roster

[tough igloo]

it would work perfectly

[blazing mantle]

That’s just 10 years of dlc they can milk

[runic dock]

Oda has so much money just toss it in the right direction , doesn’t he like fighting games? I’m sure he does

[olive sigil]

The one piece survivor game

[latent hamlet]

Ye but the opening cast is important

[olive sigil]

WOOOOO

ANOTHER ONE

[latent hamlet]

Fighterz opened with 24 characters

So which 24 characters of one piece

[tough igloo]

open world one piece game where we create our own captain and build a crew throughout the game as we visit different islands

[latent hamlet]

Should make the first cut

[solemn reef]

Need a good one piece gacha game

[olive sigil]

COW PIECE IS REAL 🐮 🐄

[blazing mantle]

He’d rather put his billions of dollars into a live action

Sorry bud

[latent hamlet]

Cut that down to 24 characters first

[warm steppe]

https://x.com/NakeemHere/status/1986925782581846030

𝐍𝐚𝐤𝐞𝐞𝐦 (@NakeemHere)

#ONEPIECE1165

Morj officially has Mihawk over Shanks

X · Nov 7, 2025, 10:36 PM

https://tenor.com/view/mihawk-one-piece-agenda-piece-mihawk-upscale-mrbeep-gif-4652002396828019758

[runic dock]

Okay but he’s got billions more

[hazy echo]

What is that t shirt

[runic dock]

Big whoop

[ashen rose]

Are there any actually good one piece games?

[latent hamlet]

How many people are on sh crew
10 right?

[ashen rose]

That aren't full of micro transactions

[solemn reef]

That means shanks is stronger because he gets everything wrong

[trim lily]

pirate warriors and burning blood was fun

[blazing mantle]

That’s the money he gives to sandman so he doesn’t leak anything

[trim lily]

if you mean gacha then no

[latent hamlet]

So u automatically get all the straw hats in one piece fighterz

[ornate tartan]

the guy who said roger is sending imu back to the holy land😂😂😂

[sage temple]

Loki vs Shanks will destroy the powerscaling community

[tough igloo]

lol someone asked him about his “ roger unlocks joyboy level haki and sends imu back to mariejois” theory and he said “ yeah oda didn’t do it cause Oda didn’t want Imu to look bad vs Roger “ lol

[warm steppe]

Tbh idk him

[hazy echo]

It would prob be like 32 launch

[sage temple]

Loki vs Shanks will be the equivalent of a the Bitcoin market crashing

[hasty sable]

Loki fans when he gets oneshot by Shanks

[blazing mantle]

Why does anybody care what this guy thinks

[tough igloo]

lmao that’s honestly my biggest fear .. i know how much Oda glazes shanks too

[ionic palm]

people still talk about Morj's dumbass?

[warm steppe]

I don't even know him

[solemn reef]

Yeah he’s the famous raid will fail guy

[trim lily]

it takes way too much effort for a proper 2D fighting game to have that many characters at launch

[latent hamlet]

i think thats a bit too many for a fighterz esque one piece game

[trim lily]

you’d be lucky to get 16

[hasty sable]

It’s definitely what happened tbh lol

[warm steppe]

That was sent in the shanks vs mihawk thread btw

[latent hamlet]

if u are just making a basic ass anime fighting game then who gives a shit

[sage temple]

I remember him for this

[latent hamlet]

u can open with fucking 50 lol

[tough igloo]

Loki seems like the perfect hypetool that Oda would use for Shanks lol it scares me 🤣

[blazing mantle]

We want a real fighting game

[hasty sable]

No way Shanks had any real trouble wkth Loki

[latent hamlet]

a proper fighting game u basically get like...20-25

[blazing mantle]

People are tired of arena fighters

[latent hamlet]

for a start

[warm steppe]

I GUESS I REMEMBER NOW

Zkk? 😭

[hasty sable]

After he oneshit Kid

Oneshit lol

[runic dock]

If Loki defeated a demon Harald , if shanks did the same thing he did to kid , that’s too busted sorry

[latent hamlet]

naruto storm games basically got hard carried by actually having a nice playable story lol

[hazy echo]

Honestly it prob depends on how much time they have beforehand

[runic dock]

Loki defeated DEMON HARALD

[hazy echo]

Cause Tekken 8 launched with a bunch

[runic dock]

HARALD WHO MATCHED ROCKS

[warm steppe]

I do have mihawk over shanks tho

[blazing mantle]

My condolences

[tough igloo]

yeah Oda had kid fight against other yonkos then still get one shot by shanks afterwards .. loki ain’t safe cause he don’t even got those type feats

[latent hamlet]

tekken has a lot of old shit they can work with

[solemn reef]

I don’t think Harald went demon but the giants who stabbed him

[latent hamlet]

one piece fighterz u kinda have to start from scratch

[hasty sable]

Kid helped kill Big Mom

[runic dock]

Loki most likely defeated demon Harald

[blazing mantle]

Doesn’t tekken reuse animations and stuff

[sage temple]

Loki's Feats

Survived being thrown from realm to realm at the age of 2 minutes
Beheaded a bear at the age of 3 minutes
Climbed half way up the World Tree at the age of 4 minutes
Extreme-Diffed by Rocks D. Xebec at the age of 5
Made the underworld his personal playground at the age of 10
Killed & tamed countless beasts of the underworld at the age of 10
Killed Elbaph's greatest warrior along with 113 giant soldiers(?) at the age of 16
Sailed the New World for 8 years and accumulated the special bounty of 2.6 billion at ages 16-19
Extreme-diffed by Yonko Shanks at the age of 19
Survived crucifixion against the entirety of Elbaph's warriors at the age of 20
Survived being beat on by the captain of the HKs and a future Imu vessel at 21
Still a century until his prime according to Oda so this is basically 2/3s of his real power not including his Devil Fruit

[hasty sable]

Then was killed in one hit

[runic dock]

It’s a future feat but it’s most likely

[sage temple]

[blazing mantle]

Bro come on

[latent hamlet]

they replicate a LOT of old moves and shit yea

[sage temple]

Don't you DARE belittle my goat

[hazy echo]

Tekken 8 specifically they remake all of the assets and they didn’t use anything from before

[urban lodge]

Socrates has that READY

[sage temple]

i will not STAND for this behavior

[tough igloo]

if you ain’t Luffy or Blackbeard .. your not safe from Oda using you as a hypetool to glaze shanks .. especially a GIANT

[hazy echo]

It was like part of the announcement thing that everything was done from ground up

[runic dock]

The giants don’t look demon but Harald is covered in silhouette as if it could be a future reveal

[latent hamlet]

but they have a fuckton of reference material from all their games

[blazing mantle]

You gotta respect it

[hasty sable]

Loki lost so bad that Shanks could drag him back to the island and chain him to a tree

[runic dock]

This is irrelevant if loki killed demon Harald

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/hola-gif-8107205355495291914

[solemn reef]

That’s just really boring if that’s the same it’s basically the same as God valley Oda will change it

[tough igloo]

lmao he even comes back to visit loki after he beat him and locked him up

[sage temple]

Once Loki forces Shanks to go extreme diff with him

[runic dock]

Helping against an invalid mother isn’t comparing to defeating a demon giant by himself

[sage temple]

The powerscaling market will be in shambles

[hasty sable]

Last we saw Harald was getting impaled already

[sage temple]

Shanks stocks will devalue almost immediately

Loki stocks will almost immediately replace them

I can already see it

[ornate tartan]

nice hopeful wishing

[hazy echo]

https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2022/sep/15/harada-tekken-8-totally-discarded/

Here it was

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-luffy-luffy-future-sight-luffy-dodge-kaido-gif-14318460914591738454

[runic dock]

Most likely not killing him , bro matched rocks with acoc , and probably was going demon mode by then , there was a summoning circle

[warm steppe]

I just happen to think that Luffy will be stronger than Joyboy, so Zoro, as his right-hand man, will be strong as well. Mihawk is the obstacle in that way. The permanent blackblade thing will have it's perks

[runic dock]

Try and put two and two together

[tranquil blade]

Invalid mother

[sage temple]

Yeah I said "Loki forces Shanks to extreme diff"

[blazing depot]

Wait

[hazy echo]

Tekken 8 had all of the models and stuff rom the ground up

[blazing depot]

Why are we talking about Tekken

[hasty sable]

Shanks really is that strong

[latent hamlet]

one piece fighterz brain

[sage temple]

Have yall seen the way Shanks has been glazed recently

[tough igloo]

Shanks vs Loki flashback about to be looking like this .. another straw hat wearer vs a son of king harald

[sage temple]

Exhibit A

[blazing mantle]

We were talking about one piece fighting game and it just went to other games

[hasty sable]

Tbh I don’t even think Blackbeard will defeat Shanks fairly

[sage temple]

Just imagine how bad this will look for Shanks fans

[runic dock]

Oh so shanks had to toss his sword aside and go with hands?

[blazing mantle]

Dressrosa should get that fmi remake treatment

[sage temple]

Loki making Shanks go to extreme difficulty

[runic dock]

Extended fight spotted

[hasty sable]

I could see Shanks going undefeated

[warm steppe]

It looks like Loki was saying it's because Shanks ganged up on Loki with his crew but I expect Shanks to be able to handle it alone

[sage temple]

This will genuinely shake the world

[runic dock]

You said fairly

No shit

[hazy echo]

Late reply but I feel like it'd be that around that number just for the stuff you have to account for

[hasty sable]

There’s genuinely no way Loki gave Shanks much issue I’m sorry

[sage temple]

Imagine Shanks needs someone else to beat Loki

[blazing mantle]

Socrates idk if you realize this but you sound exactly like a kid fan before divine departure

[tough igloo]

he uses the one arm that he has to smack (not punch ) loki

[grand flower]

@ashen perch @hot cairn check out the generational kind of minds spearheading the online community

[sage temple]

Time will tell I'm afraid

[hasty sable]

Shanks one tapped Loki

[solemn reef]

That fact that he has a grudge on Shanks shows Shanks toyed with him like a kid

[sage temple]

I don't even need to send the feat pasta anymore

[hasty sable]

They didn’t have some extended fight

[hazy echo]

On that note

Pirate Warriors 1 is so weird to look back at

[warm steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/luffy-and-loki-luffy-gear-5-loki-one-piece-luffy-one-piece-gif-12298915513185338849

[sage temple]

Loki is nothing like Midd

[tough igloo]

yeah as much as i want loki vs shanks to be a interesting fight , reality is another victim falls to the shanks hypetool agenda by Oda

[hasty sable]

Shanks whooped him and then dragged him back to Elbaf to put him in timeout

[runic dock]

I’m screenshotting this

[sage temple]

BELIEVE IN LOKI

[solemn reef]

Exactly my Goat

[hasty sable]

Kid is stronger than Loki

[hasty sable]

And I have no agenda at all

[distant vine]

Texting Oda rn so he knows this aint allowed

[runic dock]

Smh AI got his hair wrong

[blazing mantle]

What happened to odas art

Side by side makes it look weird

[hasty sable]

He got old

[runic dock]

You don’t have to have agenda to be wrong , it’s not a requirement

[sage temple]

I'm not entertaining this shit Archer I'm sorry

[runic dock]

Don’t worry mate

[warm steppe]

L take by jay

[blazing mantle]

🤔

[solemn reef]

A guy with one hand beating pure giant with a legendary devil fruit and hammer

[runic dock]

Bro is cooked fr

[sage temple]

Loki would've been a teenager at the time of the fight

[warm steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/luffy-gear-5-luffy-elbaph-one-piece-elbaph-loki-one-piece-one-piece-loki-gif-6766770417161299192

[blazing mantle]

Current one piece art isn’t bad but looking back on the older arcs it’s kinda crazy

[blazing depot]

It’s good

[hasty sable]

Damned Punk > most attacks in the series

[sage temple]

Have faith in Loki

[ashen perch]

Its actually unbelievable that he's serious about the shit he says but he really is 🙂‍↕️

[solemn reef]

Teenager are u stupid he’s technically older than shanks

[distant vine]

Has he considered Kaido is a violent person and thats enough for him lol

[hazy echo]

This was all of the characters that was playable

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/all-roads-lead-to-rome-time-rabbit-gif-9497165517404307883

ALL ROADS LEAD TO ROME

[warm steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-play-stupid-games-win-stupid-prizes-kidd-one-piece-anime-one-piece-animated-gifs-one-piece-one-piece-shanks-vs-kidds-gif-17757119305525439326

[woeful moth]

24 main roster characters:
Luffy
Zoro
Sanji
Jinbe
Robin
Nami
Usopp
Brook
Chopper
Franky
Law
Kidd
Ace
Sabo
Buggy
Arlong
Crocodile
Enel
Moria
Doflamingo
Katakuri
Kaido
Hancock
Oden

Possible DLC:
Admirals Pack (all of them)
Yonko Pack (Shanks & Whitebeard as main attraction)
Worst Generation Pack (The other missing)
WG Pack (Gorosei and Holy Knights)
Shichibukai Pack

[hasty sable]

Logic doesn’t apply to Shanks

[latent hamlet]

pirate warriors 1 was really just
play pre-timeskip

[solemn reef]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-shanks-akagami-figarland-claim-the-one-piece-gif-6896589572659665492

[sage temple]

Loki agenda will genuinely skyrocket if Shanks shows any type of strain during the fight

[ashen perch]

6 years ago, Shanks was weaker so really it doesn't really matter

[blazing mantle]

Hahaha!

[hasty sable]

Bold Warriors face off

[blazing mantle]

Only if I lose!

[urban lodge]

John makes Kid look a lot more impressive with his fruit

[hazy echo]

Idk about Oden as base roster

[runic dock]

I don’t have agendas , I just like power scaling to make sense , and so far the entire series they made perfect sense , and I’m just not vibing with this take , it doesn’t fit given what we know , kid doesn’t have acoc , and you don’t know what loki has , and we could guess he most LIKELY will have acoc and possibly future sight as well, you need to be a certain level especially if you defeat demon Harald (another most likely event) , and kid is nowhere near capable of defeating immortal demons , that’s not the same as fighting big mom

[sage temple]

Do you know this?

[runic dock]

Use logic

[latent hamlet]

hol the fuck
why is ODEN on the opening roster
HOW DID ARLONG GET THROUGH

[runic dock]

Please

[hazy echo]

Oden is definitely a DLC pick

[latent hamlet]

[solemn reef]

Shanks is so op bro as a kid was able to learn divine departure

[blazing mantle]

Is this slandering just John or both of them

[grand flower]

I don't really like to call people stupid over OP discussion but jesus christ bruh

[hazy echo]

The Admirals too would definitely be base roster

[urban lodge]

Just John tbh, and it's sad because he's cool

[woeful moth]

Arlong is a main villain that's memorable... Oden is the wano samurai representation

[hazy echo]

Like the best bets for DLC would be like Fujitora and Aramaki

[latent hamlet]

if anything sub out Arlong and Oden for 2 marines

[distant vine]

Enel in the base game...

[urban lodge]

But Kid is way more competent with it

[ashen perch]

It was 6 years ago, before he became an emperor, don't see any reason to think he's been stagnant ever since unlike with Loki

[hazy echo]

Aokiji Akainu and Kizaru are def base roster

[ornate tartan]

the D in JayDLegend name stands for dumbass

[hasty sable]

Kid’s a 3 billion bounty therefore—

[ornate tartan]

pay that guy no mind😂

[hasty sable]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-gun-kermit-gun-gif-16355306064126846866

[latent hamlet]

im ngl Enel in base roster would be kinda cool
not like skypeia gets much representation anyways

[woeful moth]

Admirals can be DLC pack and will actually sell alot as a pack

[sage temple]

6 years ago it's a teenager versus a 33 year old

[runic dock]

It’s bad writing for things to be nuanced and for things to have subtext oh I see

[grand flower]

oh no see, right before saying he wishes the story would explain why kaido values brutality, he says that Kaido's backstory is bad

the same backstory that explained to us why kaido values brutality

[proud pivot]

They gotta make a loki upscale gif

[hazy echo]

Nah people would complain that they're DLC

[blazing mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/shanks-one-piece-manga-akagami-red-hair-gif-4249854519031234516

[ornate tartan]

Luffy a teenager fighting ppl 50+
what kinda excuse😂

[sage temple]

Shanks became a Yonko 6 years ago

[grand flower]

dude it's bad writing when the takeaways of the manga require context clues and analysis and intepretation instead of being spoonfed to you

[tranquil blade]

Did they not see the country he was born in, his whole thing about strength, this was literally foreshadowed in THIS flashback when Kaido asks Rocks "Can't you surpress them with strength? Why dont you beat Harald up and make him join?" Holy shit man

[sage temple]

He's the mc

What type of comparison is that

[ashen perch]

Well I guess we don't know if it was before but eh

[runic dock]

If it’s not given to us on a silver platter it’s bad writing , if I have to think it’s bad writing

[hasty sable]

Oda got bored of Kid and replaced him with a cooler version in Loki

[ornate tartan]

Zoro is 2 years older then Luffy

[hazy echo]

Heck actually even Shanks as DLC is weird on itself

[latent hamlet]

tbh tho for a fighterz roster of one piece, unless we're trying to make a story mode of straw hats vs their arc villains
we can probably drop a few villains from the roster
i say that, but i mostly just think Arlong and Moria should get the axe lol

[hazy echo]

Like some characters aren't really ideal to relegated as DLC options

[proud pivot]

It's not tbh, it'll sell like crazy

[latent hamlet]

shanks would go crazy as a DLC

[sage temple]

Still Shanks was likely Yonko level at the time of the fight unless you're saying in a few months he had a mysterious Haki bloom and he fought Loki conveniently right before this Haki bloom

[latent hamlet]

think about all the Fighterz DLC announcements

[woeful moth]

Shanks has always been a DLC character in almost every Pirate Warriors game

[latent hamlet]

some people were hyped as FUCK

[runic dock]

Croc has a 2 billion bounty , so what? don’t get caught up in the stupid bounty game

[grand flower]

"oh gee i sure wish kaido would have a conversation with someone explaining why he wants brutality to be the law of his crew"

[runic dock]

Bounties don’t mean shit bruh

[hasty sable]

Croc is stronger now

[grand flower]

LMAO exactly man

[sage temple]

Loki has a special bounty

[solemn reef]

Shanks beating Loki is a Shanks upscale are u stupid or what

[runic dock]

Yet to see that , he used regular sand dude

No headcanon pls

[sage temple]

Until you know what special bounty means you can't compare 2.6b with anything

[hazy echo]

That's not true at all

[sage temple]

You can't really bountyscale

[ashen perch]

I don't see why Shanks would have stayed the same level as 6 years ago, that's all

[hazy echo]

Pirate Warriors didn't started doing character DLCs until the 4th game and even then PW4 had Shanks as part of the base roster

[sage temple]

Shanks extreme diffing Loki is a Loki upscale

[latent hamlet]

but shanks they had to make up so much bullshit

[hasty sable]

Croc gets a 2 billion bounty because he’s been boosted up

[hazy echo]

It was an alt version of Shanks that was DLC and people dislike it

[sage temple]

That's what I'm arguing

[woeful moth]

plus its really hard to put him as base roster without a proper moveset anyway

[sage temple]

Sorry if I confused yall

[proud pivot]

He wouldn't have gotten much stronger too tbh

[hazy echo]

Shanks wasn't playable until PW3 as well either

[hasty sable]

Only way to keep him relevant

[latent hamlet]

pirate warriors shanks had his haki appear as literal lightning bolts

and he shot giant haki bullets

[hasty sable]

Poor bastard is a Sanji victim

[latent hamlet]

[ashen perch]

Crocodile's 2B bounty is actually gonna put him strength wise above everyone below that bounty

[hazy echo]

Kinda crazy how they got conqueror's coating in retrospect

[sage temple]

If he did change I imagine there was an extremely slight increase or possibly even a decrease in strength

[latent hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-shanks-vs-garp-pirate-warriors-haki-swordsman-gif-8491412575273945125

[sage temple]

He's almost 40 now

[latent hamlet]

shanks really be like "I SUMMON HAKI THUNDERBOLT"

[runic dock]

Can say the same for kid , yet he’s not even relevant anymore same with law , bounties don’t matter

[sage temple]

Isn't 33 closer to a human's prime than 39

[urban lodge]

Haki wizard

[hazy echo]

There is some material that you can work with rn to make a moveset work

[solemn reef]

Given how shanks fights he probably beat him using Bluetooth haki alone

[sage temple]

I mean I understand One Piece doesn't exactly translate directly to the real world but logically

[woeful moth]

i really put the main roster as the Strawhats ofcourse all of them, Main Villains, Popular Side characters that makes sense and will not sell as much as DLC like Shanks... Shanks alone carried a movie sale with his name...

[hasty sable]

I do think bounties are meant to convey a general strength level

[ashen perch]

King or Marco or any Yonko Commander basically

[ornate tartan]

strawhat shanks 🔜

[hazy echo]

PW4 made a moveset out of Kaido when he just had Blast Breath and Thunder Bagua

[hazy echo]

ai response

[runic dock]

Probably like meant to give us a ballpark of where certain people are around but not meant to be taken like a Bible

[latent hamlet]

well i aint gonna dive into articles

[hasty sable]

Ballpark yeah

[woeful moth]

we don't accept AI here

[hasty sable]

And Kid and Law getting the same bounty as Luffy means something

[woeful moth]

get the actual article and we will talk

[runic dock]

We also saw how they got it , differently than luffy

[latent hamlet]

the first option was wikipedia
the second is r/askmen

[proud pivot]

Stop using irl shit in Onepiece, Akainu is in his prime and he's 55

[grand flower]

"Gee wilickers i sure do wish it'd be explained why kaido loves violence, too bad we just got a bad back story"

the bad back story:

[runic dock]

And the news likes to spin

[tranquil blade]

Primes are all over the place in one piece, Kaido is considered in his prime during Wano at 59 despite people in real life being absolutely not in their primes by that age

[sage temple]

I feel like physical prime is all that matters imo

[hasty sable]

He doesn’t get a 3 billion bounty to be weaker than the fan favorite of the week

[ashen perch]

Strength was said to not be the only reason for bounties but that doesn't mean its not a big part of it

[hasty sable]

Who mind you

[latent hamlet]

tbh im assuming mid 20s early 30s is physical prime

[ashen perch]

Like in most cases, its actually quite the accurate measure of strength

[runic dock]

I agree , my point would still stand I think , people sometimes take those numbers too religiously

[sage temple]

Yeah and now Shanks is 39 so if Oda does follow that same rule, Shanks was closer to his physical prime when he fought Loki than present day

[hasty sable]

Mind you, Loki’s only feat is losing to the same guy that beat Kid

So this is all premature

[latent hamlet]

OP be like

"the roger and garp that beat rocks? not prime"
"when is their prime?"
"the age when roger died like 10 years after"

[solemn reef]

Bro comparing real life to one piece

[sage temple]

#also-manga message

[ashen perch]

For sure but its fair to take Crocs seriously tbh, a big part of it was even his Logia abilities, aka his strength

[hasty sable]

Kid at least did his part in killing an emperor

[hazy echo]

I'd personally say Shanks would work better as like a unlockable character than a DLC

[opal gull]

I think prime goes all the way till 50

[sage temple]

Are you baiting me to spam the Loki's feats thing

[opal gull]

arent the Admirals that age

[latent hamlet]

OP be like
THIS IS HIS PRIME
the "prime": old enough for voice to start getting raspy and start developing back problems

[ashen perch]

No

[opal gull]

also BB is 40 himself

dont say that Shanks is past his prime

[solemn reef]

Loki is extremely strong we already know that

[opal gull]

this is just a lie

[ashen perch]

Fujtora is 58, Kizaru too. Akainu is 56

[runic dock]

Oda said if enel was on the ground he would have a bounty similar to ace , and he’s a logia expert , so okay croc gets a 500k boost for that

[tranquil blade]

Half the admirals are like mid 50's

[proud pivot]

More like 60 imo

Because Kaido was like 59

Wtf

[hazy echo]

It is interesting just how different people have rosters for One Piece though you'd almost never see the same ones

[sage temple]

I did not say that

[proud pivot]

Stupid wifi

[hasty sable]

Croc was what 60 million? Lol

[ashen perch]

80

[woeful moth]

selling DLC for $10 with all the yonko will sell like hotcakes and putting Shanks there as headliner helps alot...

[hasty sable]

Ah yeah

[sage temple]

Yeah It feels like bait idk

[latent hamlet]

wasnt croc's bounty stopped a long time ago tho?

[runic dock]

500k just for logia power (due to enel’s given bounty)

[latent hamlet]

drop the yonko pack and then surprise 5th character, Gear 5 Luffy

[hazy echo]

Launching with no Yonko though.....

[runic dock]

That still leaves 1.5 million

[hasty sable]

Also Buggy having Croc as a subordinate contributed to him becoming an emperor. He really is going to be that powerful now.

[woeful moth]

i was thinking of Gear 5 Luffy as an install move tho

[hazy echo]

One Piece has like 5 million characters already no need for alt versions

At best prob like pre ts versions

[hasty sable]

Croc is probably stronger than Zoro and Sanji currently

[solemn reef]

I mean he will surpass Harald which means he will surpass rocks Roger Garp whitebeard

[hazy echo]

Like people already hate the Goku alts in DBFZ considering how much DB characters there is

[latent hamlet]

depends on if the install is just stat buff or literal character defining moveset changes

[sage temple]

Either way though, Shanks became a Yonko the same year he beat Loki, likely putting Loki in the Yonko level threat category if we follow Gaban's narration

[latent hamlet]

like, Gear 5 luffy fights so fundamentally different compared to normal

[sage temple]

Yeah lots of people have potential to surpass them including Loki I agree

[ashen perch]

Eh it shouldn't be the same for every logia user, but just saying, it would make sense if he was strong enough to beat everyone below his bounty

[runic dock]

Due to this statement , croc earned 1.5 million of his bounty NOT due to logia strength

[latent hamlet]

like how UI Goku fights and behaves so starkly different to normal goku

[hasty sable]

Loki is extremely strong but people act like it’s a done deal that he’s that much stronger than Law and Kid. I don’t lol. I think they’re both stronger than him.

[hazy echo]

DBFZ suffers from no installs apart from Golden Frieza

[opal gull]

same threat as in Yonko level threat you mean? I think that would depend on how easily Shanks beat him

[ashen perch]

Marco, King, Katakuri, Zoro and Sanji, etc. i think Croc takes them

[solemn reef]

I mean they have to given how strong Imu is when all top tiers didn’t do shit to him

[runic dock]

If croc shows armament once I’ll change my tune

[hazy echo]

Like a good amount of stuff you could just make as install supers

[ashen perch]

We know he has it now based off vivre cards

[hasty sable]

Croc has haki now for sure

[runic dock]

You’re insane lmao

[unique lagoon]

anyone else coping we get half a chapter of them escaping GV?

[runic dock]

Where is this random croc glaze coming from

He is not all that

[hasty sable]

Also, look at Lucci. Pretimeskip villains coming back way more powerful is not new.

[runic dock]

He hasn’t shown armament or anything at all

[sage temple]

That's why I said "if we follow Gaban's narration". Gaban implies Loki was a very tough opponent and admits that he himself couldn't beat Loki

[runic dock]

You’re assuming a lot

[hasty sable]

Lucci could hang with Zoro

[sage temple]

Lucci is hanging with Zoro

[ashen perch]

Bounty and he has been presented as the 2nd most important member of a Yonko crew (Buggy hardly counts so its Mihawk and Croc mainly)

[ornate tartan]

so there’s hope for enel ur saying

[unique lagoon]

loki should be more powerful than herald ye?

[woeful moth]

both... it adds other moves like Devil Kazuya in Tekken 7/8

[sage temple]

Aint he? 😨

[unique lagoon]

• loki got the DF power

[opal gull]

then I guess he is at that level I guess, I mean he should be with how he is portrayed

[unique lagoon]

im not even mentioning the eye part
if thats relevant to his power

[sage temple]

Yeah depending on how well he did against Shanks

[hasty sable]

I think Crocodile can soundly defeat King and Queen

[hazy echo]

Lokking at it again Burning Blood roster was weird

[sage temple]

But off of narration Loki is definitely near Harald's level

[solemn reef]

If Loki joins the crew it’s basically a 2nd yonko on the crew

[latent hamlet]

i just think gear 5 luffy deserves his own spot because u can pull off some wackier shit for fun

[sage temple]

And at the time of fighting Shanks, Loki was just a teenager

[hasty sable]

Wait until Doffy comes back and he’s billions of berries stronger from prison training

[sage temple]

Shanks was 33

[hazy echo]

Two separate Smokers...

[unique lagoon]

my headcanon is loki called shanks a coward because shanks dint give him a warriors death..
or maybe they just jumpped him

[ashen perch]

ACoC Doffy will be real

[sage temple]

Yeah those are the two options I have in my mind rn

[latent hamlet]

like luffy pre-gear 5 fights pretty straight forward
gear 5 is the type to lift up the own ground and turn it into a baseball bat then bonk u with it like its a hammer

[iron oriole]

I said it before & i'll say it again, the seastone cuffs & chains will make his haki grow

[solemn reef]

I mean Gaban literally mentioned Shanks specifically

[sage temple]

But right now Loki getting one-tapped seems like the least likely scenario

[grand flower]

kaido you truly deserved a better fandom

[hasty sable]

Sheer hatred will sustain him and make him stronger

[unique lagoon]

where did the 1 tap came from

[hasty sable]

The raw disgust at Law possibly being stronger than him makes him level up out of spite

[solemn reef]

Maybe 2 tapped

[sage temple]

I guess

[hasty sable]

Loki getting one tapped is so likely it’s a done deal

You’re talking about Shanks lmao

[unique lagoon]

if you go back
shanks checked kid pirates if they where healed up already

[solemn reef]

Given how shanks fights go they don’t last long

[sage temple]

One Piece fans try not to repeat themselves difficulty: impossible

[hasty sable]

Shanks wouldn’t have struggled in the slightest with Loki

[proud pivot]

Loki getting one tapped is never happening lmao

[hasty sable]

This is what I mean lmao

[iron oriole]

"Shanks fights" name 1

[hasty sable]

You barely even know this character

[grand flower]

Loki called Shanks a coward because Shanks used Haki to sneak Loki and one-tap him

[sage temple]

I feel like Shanks was a lot less polite and forgiving when it came to fights 6 years ago

[solemn reef]

Yeah that would kill his hype

[hasty sable]

It’s Shanks!

lmao

[proud pivot]

It's gonna be an extended fight

[grand flower]

yes but not because it's actually a hype killer, but because most people don't care about context

[hasty sable]

Definitely not

[unique lagoon]

dont know about that
he still looks like a layed back chill guy

[native seal]

loki is gonna be an anomaly man, oda has tried pushing the harald = xebec agenda way too many times this flashback

[sage temple]

I get it Archer I know nothing of Shanks, you possess an incomprehensible knowledge that is dimensions above my brain's wavelengths. God I wish I could be you

[hazy echo]

Oh yea on that note here was ArcSys's One Piece roster

[hasty sable]

Thank you!

[unique lagoon]

i think the only difference is the amount of lore/information shanks gathered
because of this child of destiny crap they drop on his head

[dapper tree]

You are making Archer stronger

[solemn reef]

He literally parallels BB

[woeful moth]

yeah... there is also a chance he did the "all of the mass" move to Loki...

[unique lagoon]

shanks also likes fronting

[sage temple]

I thought it would do the opposite I hate this

[dapper tree]

You don't know archer then

lmao

[proud pivot]

Yeah that's gonna happen at the end of the fight

[sage temple]

This is my first time experiencing his methods

[unique lagoon]

is archer here?

oh i see em

[tranquil blade]

Yeah

[solemn reef]

Both shanks and bb are being saved from thier father

[unique lagoon]

nvm

[dapper tree]

he's right over there

[unique lagoon]

was too busy with my headcanon

[dense rapids]

Dragon’s vira flashback will be the 2nd best flashback in OP

[iron oriole]

BB was definitely not saved from his father

[native seal]

oda do not make rocks the first D to die without a smile, we need that 1 more god valley chapter

[grand flower]

Looking at this panel today, I wonder if Kaido knows about the extra terrestials

[unique lagoon]

more people really should talk about the timeline of shanks and what he was doing

its very interesting

[dense rapids]

He isn’t dead yet

[grand flower]

The greatest war this planet has ever seen

i wonder if it's possible the void century war wasn't on the blue star

[dapper tree]

I will be fine with vira being in the dragon flashback

[lofty fern]

Does anyone else think Rocks thinks Teach and Eris are dead?

[proud pivot]

Every day we get closer to two piece: next generations

[dense rapids]

We know Fisher Tiger escaped probably during the time shanks was there so we could see those two team up in the holy land

[native seal]

vira has to be an important POI, at least for the revs since it was mentioned by nami so early into the series

[dense rapids]

Yeah that’s why he’s crying and begging to die

[unique lagoon]

you show me this but elbaf shanks was very chill
same with shanks during rogers death

[dapper tree]

naw, he knows they escaped

[sage temple]

Also didn't Shanks allow his crew to take Kidd's hand off

[tranquil blade]

He might idk, Luffy thought his crew was dead when Kuma sent them away

[native seal]

yes, hence the tears that couldnt stop this chapter

[solemn reef]

No I mean being saved in the sense that bb needs to run away from rocks cuz he’s a demon now and shanks cuz his dad is just a demon who killed his mom

[dense rapids]

Yea like this

[iron oriole]

100%, ngl i wouldn't be surprised if he actually caught Eris a bit & thats how she later dies

[hasty sable]

I think Vira would be a good pit stop to set up the final war

[dense rapids]

He probably didn’t even notice Kuma sent them away

[sage temple]

Yeah I'm tryna say like Shanks seemed a lot meaner when he was younger like 6 years ago

Compared to now

[unique lagoon]

i feel like we are talking about different things

[dense rapids]

Vira will be a flashback

U heard it here

[hazy echo]

https://fixupx.com/Swag_K1RBY/status/1986468155921748057

SwagKirb (@Swag_K1RBY)

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FixupX · Nov 6, 2025, 4:18 PM

[vestal heath]

boku wa doctor tony tony chopper

[grand flower]

yea

[lofty fern]

I'm just thinking, how would he know what Kuma could do? And would he really be crying this much otherwise?

[dense rapids]

Xebec only started crying after Blackbeard and Eris got sent away

[blazing mantle]

Shanks and mihawk can’t resist aura farming on rookies

[dense rapids]

He thinks he killed rhem

[blazing mantle]

What’s their problem

[native seal]

imu thinking eris and teach are dead is such a neat detail

[proud pivot]

Is Dragon on the same ship as Imu btw?

[unique lagoon]

another WG blunder

[sage temple]

Yeah me too

[dapper tree]

he turned into a monster with no way to turn back or give up on his mission to wipe out his family and evryone on the island so of course the tears would keep going

[unique lagoon]

[native seal]

no imu is going away in a WG ship and dragon's ship is docked saving civilians

[solemn reef]

Kid and Loki are rookies 😂

[tranquil blade]

Man what is this

[hasty sable]

I think Rocks knows they lived

[proud pivot]

I see

[hasty sable]

He’s crying because he’s been made a slave to Imu

[lofty fern]

I'm just thinking what if Xebec, thinking his family is dead, entrusted his will to Roger and Garp and that dream fell to Luffy and Shanks?

[unique lagoon]

what if being a demon = mental and physical torture?

[iron oriole]

Not entirely though, he resisted enough to go to Garp & Roger

[native seal]

eris saying "you had to fight him this early" kinda makes me believe the 2 fruits are essential to counter domi reversi

and i dont really like it if thats the case

[hasty sable]

He resisted enough to talk to then with VOAT

[proud pivot]

I feel so bad for Xebec ngl, fuck imu

[sage temple]

Same

[lofty fern]

Yeah, but he as like that for a while before he started crying. That happened only after Eris and Teach

[solemn reef]

Boohoohoo

[dapper tree]

well, the nika fruit does look like it would be able to

IDK about the other

[solemn reef]

Cry me a river

[unique lagoon]

thats how oda deal with the power scalers
make the scene really depressing

[proud pivot]

Shanks pfp 💔

[hasty sable]

Roger crying

[native seal]

if the other one is the dark dark fruit then it kinda makes sense too

[hasty sable]

[frigid gulch]

Blackbeard will triumph

[solemn reef]

Garp not giving a fuck was the best

[frigid gulch]

[native seal]

but didnt xebec say it would be in elbaf

so its probably in loki's belly right now

[golden valley]

When shanks is on the ground like a bitch, ion wanna hear it

[solemn reef]

U wish

[unique lagoon]

yeah but whats the second DF

[lofty fern]

Rocks didn't even know about DR until this day, so there's no way he or Eris could have thought they would counter it.

[hasty sable]

Prettt sure the Harald fruit is Loki’s

[dapper tree]

yeah, loki has whatever the second fruit is

[blazing mantle]

Bro wow

[hasty sable]

I don’t think Xebec knew about the Gomu

[solemn reef]

I beat u he won’t be crying like a bitch

[hasty sable]

So the other is the Yami

[iron oriole]

"Probably in Elbaf" & that Harald should be the one to eat it

[unique lagoon]

i swear if the second DF is dragons power that be wild

[grand flower]

Yasopp be like

[golden valley]

But you know he’ll be on the ground

[frigid gulch]

I imagine the Elbaf one was the Nika fruit

[proud pivot]

!rmd 4y Shanks cries like a bitch

[frigid gulch]

Shanks tracked it down

[hasty sable]

Elbaf one has to be Loki’s