also-manga

[sage temple]

[ornate tartan]

I like seeing Luffy embarrass ppl in G5

[frozen ravine]

its too bad rocks died before he could stab more children

[ornate tartan]

everything isn’t aura farming

[grand flower]

Yeah that's what I mean. There's nothing wrong with G5, but some of the worst perspectives I've ever seen ballooned around that time

[soft tangle]

#WeWantedResin

[dense haven]

do you think loki will get his revenge for the animals

[sage temple]

Name 1 thing that makes him a Domi Reversi victim

[urban lodge]

We're already forgetting she beat half the crew by herself in 2 seconds?

[ashen rose]

Loki's shanks, except he's actually a GOAT and not a rat

[blazing mantle]

Gunko: Mercilessly beats a man while he’s chained and insults him

Rocks: saves a poor child from depression and taking his own life

Who’s the real villain?

[digital spear]

whatever Roger and Garp were doing this chapter I hope Luffy and Loki will try it against Gunkimu now

[sage temple]

For EVERY reason Loki would get Domi Reversi'd, there are two reasons against it

This is how baseless that argument is

Arsal you must open your eyes

[steel stirrup]

Calm down its just Usopp

[blazing mantle]

Yeah but it’s the strawhats

Don’t use this like it’s an upscale

[ashen perch]

He's in Elbaf, and there's no implied limit to the powers outside it, get ready.

[ornate tartan]

im comin back to this when he gets low diffed😂😂

[steel stirrup]

You acting like shawty did something impressive

[digital spear]

I mean he just gets domi reversid. what are 2 reasons against it

[ashen rose]

I'm saving this for when you're wrong

[trim lily]

arent they a yonko crew

[dapper tree]

they will do that but better

[sage temple]

This is her best feat?

😂

[pine scaffold]

I think it would be poetic if Xebec, Harald and Loki ended up domi reversi'd

Xebec, Xebec's friend and Xebec's fan

[steel stirrup]

Exactly

[ashen rose]

A yonko crew with half hakiless crew

[dense haven]

pity win

[steel stirrup]

Lmaoo

[blazing mantle]

My goat smoker washes half of the “yonko crew”

[steel stirrup]

Is that it?

[calm wave]

kaido was trynna loki himself this whole time, this is a egg-hen situation

[steel stirrup]

Thats all?

[ashen perch]

The arc requires Loki to be Domi Reversi'd after Imu leaves in order to continue, there's no way around it

[ornate tartan]

Loki fans forgetting that boy chained up to a tree rn

He can’t even get up and use the bathroom gng🥀

[sage temple]

He has a fruit
He has experience with this type of Haki

[ashen rose]

Reminder that the one piece equivalent of the devil is face to face with the strawhats, and usopp is shooting plants

[digital spear]

you think it doesnt work against people with fruits?

[sage temple]

Homeland theory

Boring asf

[steel stirrup]

So shes beaten unarmed slaves, a restrained Loki, and the Strawhats who are more gag than power

Anything else

[sage temple]

Has it been used against people with fruits?

[ashen rose]

He got chained up after getting jumped by all of elbaph AND shanks crew

[urban lodge]

Loki is definitely getting domi reversi'd

[sage temple]

Penny the adults are speaking

[ornate tartan]

holy headcanon

[urban lodge]

I'm more sure about it than ever

[ashen perch]

Luffy, Zoro and Sanji v Domi Loki, Dorry and Brogy are the big upcoming monster trio fights

[steel stirrup]

That shit makes no sense at all

[digital spear]

it has only been used on like 3

[pine scaffold]

another piece of evidence is Loki's explosive personality and how he has outbursts

People think it could be another condition of domi reversi

[trim lily]

what about hajrudin

[ashen rose]

Just reread he manga

It's in there

[dapper tree]

you mean joining the SHs

[urban lodge]

^ Made his account when he was 9

[pine scaffold]

Imu would ragebait Loki extremely hard

[urban lodge]

I'm not joking btw

[sage temple]

It just doesn't Loki has a legendary fruit with lots of abilities that distinguish himself from every single other victim of DR

[ornate tartan]

hold up bro😂
im gonna send the panel to you since you clearly didn’t read elbaph

[ashen perch]

Yea, there's no condition he doesn't meet

[grand flower]

Experienced New World Haki users are fighting some of those Haki-less Straw Hats btw

[ashen rose]

Nah, he's chill when it comes to other people insulting his loved one, sometimes

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/white-boy-druski-white-druski-druski-white-boy-not-too-much-shhh-gif-232282694754040192

[pine scaffold]

no dawg he gets mad over every little thing

[dense haven]

gunko is lucky she got the brook link that gives her temporary plot armor

[calm wave]

neither luffy nor loki is that smart. i'd prolly take nami, robin, jinbei or sanji to figure that out but they aint got CoC.. maybe gyaban could give a hint if he saw what happened on GV

[sage temple]

Has it been used against people with fruits?

[ionic palm]

no

[sage temple]

Exactly

[rich hornet]

Yo does Jinbe not have haki

[ashen rose]

His dog died and he jumped from grief to acceptance in 2 seconds

[dapper tree]

the flying 6 were kinda bums

[sage temple]

Loki is nothing like the previous Domi Reversi victims

There's no reason to put him in the same group

[grand flower]

I mean i def didn't mean him

[digital spear]

it has only been used on 3

[steel stirrup]

Please change and grow as a human being

[sage temple]

He could definitely be immune

[hearty shore]

dude loki's domi reversi will have 80% of the kills due to loki's MASSIVE size being flipped over and crushing everyone

[ashen perch]

He's in his homeland, he's gonna get angry, he's not strong enough to resist it when even Rocks couldn't. Nothing is stopping Domi Loki from happening.

[fallen meteor]

you see here how loki and rocks have nothing in common

[ashen rose]

Plus IF he would get domi reversid, we know damn well Luffy would reverse it

[sage temple]

It's a yes or no question YC

[digital spear]

I dont care

[fallen meteor]

its so over

[sage temple]

[grand flower]

Which way western man

[formal wagon]

...

[sage temple]

Context

[pine scaffold]

@steel stirrup NAHHHHHH

[sage temple]

Smh my head

[pine scaffold]

WHAT IS THIS

😭

[ashen perch]

Lmao Shuron

[sage temple]

THAT'S THE TRUTH

THAT'S WHAT THAT IS

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/zias-blou-zias-n-blou-how-big-something-is-never-experienced-it-look-of-disapproval-gif-3394557830235976636

[hearty shore]

can domi reversi be cancelled if victims enter in contact with kairouseki?

[hazy echo]

Hi Pasta

[digital spear]

Harald got cucked

[urban lodge]

What? It's very plausible

[sage temple]

Sb I don't think I need to say more

[ashen perch]

The most obvious Rocks parallel but he's ignoring that one

[formal wagon]

what if his name was barold

[sweet anvil]

I think Socrates slowly losing his shit

[ashen rose]

Context: Blackbeard is an insult to the rocks name and Loki carries his legacy

[grand flower]

This all I can do talking to you niggas tehse days

[dense haven]

sb do you hate rocks

[formal wagon]

Context: egghead ends in december

[pine scaffold]

Nope I still like him

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-dance-gif-23861627

[sage temple]

They aren't exactly the same but they're definitely similar

[dense haven]

what about loki

[ornate tartan]

Loki temporarily escaped YEARS AFTER being chained up, and that’s when all the Giants of Elbaph came together to put him back in chains

bro got cooked by Shanks im sorry😂 @ashen rose

[steel stirrup]

Where tf do you get the nerve

[pine scaffold]

mid

[sage temple]

Loki has all the traits and abilities Rocks has and more which is why he could be immune

[sweet anvil]

Loki is the character most close to rocks tbf

[sage temple]

Rich I own the nerve

I bought the nerve

[ashen perch]

Victim of Domi Reversi like his idol, that's Loki's fate. Unlike Garp though, who only could wonder how they can undo the curse, his grandson Luffy will successfully undo it.

[steel stirrup]

Cap

[ashen perch]

It writes itself

[sweet anvil]

Who then

[grand flower]

With Nika heartbeat maybe

[fallen meteor]

to me this seems likely

[sage temple]

100 Rich D. Jolly-s vs Accountability

[steel stirrup]

The nigga with his flagship named after the man

The niggas own son

[sage temple]

Just say what you want to say

[fallen meteor]

If Loki is immune it's about the homeland theory and Oda writes it as Elbaf never truly being his home since everybody hates him there

[ashen perch]

Perhaps yea

[sage temple]

Don't be a slave to the Blackbeard agenda

[grand flower]

@hot cairn almost done with the garp script. Think I'm gonna call the video "Garp: Pragmatic or Powerless?"

[steel stirrup]

Loki just a fan thats it thats all

[sage temple]

BLACKBEARD KILLED HIS OWN MOTHER

[ashen rose]

All im seeing is that he got jumped and STILL escaped

[sage temple]

HE'S NOTHING LIKE ROCKS

[sweet anvil]

Blackbeard inherited his will and is his son but personality wise it’s arguable Loki is closer

[steel stirrup]

!headcanon

[tropic nova]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/833428729266438194/1018179087669399692/IMG_5716.png

[formal wagon]

will you be in your bace form when egghead ends this december 🫦

[ashen rose]

Killed whiteboard too

[fallen meteor]

dude she is inside his back

[ornate tartan]

yea that’s a good feat

[sweet anvil]

Saying that Loki is closer personality wise isn’t a bad take

[steel stirrup]

We need more fucking gatekeeping

[sage temple]

So he ate her

[vestal heath]

Hi richhh

[dense haven]

blackbeard is being controlled by eris anyway

[steel stirrup]

Hey Roman

[ashen perch]

Harald fell to it, Xebec fell to it. The natural progression of this parallel isnt Loki being immune, it is Loki falling victim to it too, but ultimately being saved by Luffy.

[fallen meteor]

no she's alive there
they are roomates

[vestal heath]

My Robin Wano figure is about to arrive I’m so happy

[scenic dirge]

I think investing in a good barbell is a great first step for home gyms too

[rich hornet]

True she’s a snake

[ashen rose]

True

[grand flower]

Oh you think Harald was cursed too?

[sage temple]

The natural progression of the story portrays Loki with lots of distinguishing traits

[steel stirrup]

Luckyy

[sage temple]

Loki has a Devil fruit for one

Special eyes 2

[calm wave]

she was his 1st devil fruit

[fallen meteor]

hello

[sage temple]

Legnedary Devil Fruit in fact***

[dense haven]

who is he gonna fight while turned

[pine scaffold]

Rocks's only successor

[ashen rose]

The one thing I don't really agree with Socrates, sorry brother but him being domi reversid is not downscale

[fallen meteor]

oh shit

[ashen rose]

Looney toons victim

[fallen meteor]

the infighting

[ornate tartan]

the only question I have of Loki is how tf did he see shamrock face when he was talking to him😂 observation haki or he recognized his voice

[formal wagon]

is barbell alive

[steel stirrup]

Thats it thats the entire list

[sweet anvil]

Well I meant this guy

[grand flower]

It seems like Loki can just see out the bandages

[urban lodge]

Rocks pirates roles role playing the actual Rocks pirates

[ashen perch]

Yea I think so, he told his guards to stab him while he was resisting it, and that is how we circle back to the moment the flashback began with

[urban lodge]

Does this count as rule breaking?

[ashen rose]

Yep, crazy obs haki

[formal wagon]

so if gil bastar had the horo horo then does that mean he's still alive. why do his ghosts have a funny haircut?

[sage temple]

Dang alr I respect your opinion we'll see who's right in the end 🫂

[ashen rose]

Like actually insane

[ashen perch]

Luffy ofc

[grand flower]

I just took it as his regular eyesight

[fallen meteor]

maybe his eyes give him one layer of clothes x ray so he bandages it so he doesnt see people naked (it only takes the bandage away from his vision)

[sweet anvil]

Gunko roles also being racist fish men ❤️‍🩹

[grand flower]

Maybe his weird eyes can see thru objects

[sage temple]

Top 3 Observation Haki abilities in the verse

[hearty shore]

imagine if imu domi reversi's loki but suddenly he becomes a regular sized giant with no horns and normal eyes and is a pacifist

[steel stirrup]

Here we go with this shit again

[grand flower]

No actually that’s not on the table

[sage temple]

Maybe his weird eyes can see through souls

[scenic dirge]

I need the end of this flashback to really get me back into the Elbaf side of things. As important as god valley is, I’m not feeling awfully attached to Elbaf as a location and people yet. At least not as much as I’d like to be for this point in the arc. Visually Elbaf is really cool but I think Oda’s normally done a better job of making the reader feel attached to a location/people

[ashen rose]

Rat observation haki lol, he got that from rocks

[urban lodge]

We know for a fact he can see through the bandages

[fallen meteor]

@sage temple new theory for you

[ornate tartan]

?😂 I can name 5 better

[sage temple]

No?

[urban lodge]

It was said by Loki himself

Yes

[ashen rose]

Yes

[sage temple]

Name them rn

[sage temple]

Send panel

[sweet anvil]

You can’t see people’s faces with observation

[sage temple]

I must be conflicted cz that's just not the case

[ornate tartan]

Gaban
Kaido
Shanks
Fujitora
Luffy

[steel stirrup]

Cite that source

[sage temple]

I like this

[formal wagon]

Them = december

[ashen rose]

Gaban?

[sweet anvil]

Fujitora would’ve seen Luffy then

[pine scaffold]

dude he showed future sight

[sage temple]

GABAN IS LOKI'S DOG

[fallen meteor]

seems = so

[sweet anvil]

Loki knew shamrock looks like shanks iirc

[grand flower]

Honestly I'd put Enel up there for his sheer range. Also he can listen to like, hundreds if not thousands of conversations simultaneously

[formal wagon]

you heard of zoro november get ready for egghead ends december

[ashen perch]

I don't see why the eyes would be having an effect on Domi Reversi

[ornate tartan]

Gaban has amazing observation he can sense the HKs even when they are suppressing their presence and he has future sight

[sage temple]

Actually tho send the panel I'm worried I've been wrong all this time

[grand flower]

The fact that Enel can listen to all the convos in Skypeia simultaneously is still one of the most absurd feats if you take it at face value

[ashen perch]

I can see them being relevant but like, it's prob nothing like that

[blazing mantle]

When’s his birthday

[steel stirrup]

Shit would drive me crazy

[ashen rose]

Truel, what about fujitora?

[sage temple]

It's mainly because of this theory

[formal wagon]

lost

[grand flower]

Enel being able to engineer an actual flying ship makes sense if you take these two to mean he's actually incredibly intelligent

[grand flower]

What if Enel has been the secret satellite all this time lmao

[ashen perch]

I think the eyes are something he has been reincarnated with, like Shirahoshi, but I don't think it'll effect him being Domi Reversi'd

[pine scaffold]

Holy shit

[grand flower]

Enel understood a lot of things about the blue sea that the other sky folk didn't seem to, either

[ashen rose]

Reminder that enel fought against his literal counter, and was still putting Luffy through some work

[pine scaffold]

thats a downscale

[sweet anvil]

Lmao

[pine scaffold]

Dude people told me this whole time Loki used haki to see

[ashen rose]

AND HE ACHIEVED HIS GOAL

[pine scaffold]

wtf bruh

[grand flower]

Yeah Enel was actually throwing hands with Luffy

[sage temple]

"He can see" meaning he's not blind

[grand flower]

Enel is pretty underrated

[sweet anvil]

You can’t use haki to actually see people’s faces

[steel stirrup]

Lmaoooo

[pine scaffold]

yeah makes sense

[urban lodge]

Yes, and he's wearing bandages. His whole life

[sage temple]

Loki's eyes work they're just blindfolded

[ashen rose]

Still waiting for his comeback

[pine scaffold]

you can see the rough outlines tho

but thats abt it

[grand flower]

Heaven Realm, for sure

[ashen perch]

Yea Fujitora could only see silhouettes, vague ones

[sage temple]

He has the capability to see

[sweet anvil]

What Fujitora saw for Luffy basically

[formal wagon]

its a canopy

[grand flower]

Same as Usopp, so it's not just because Issho is blind either

[sage temple]

And with Haki he was able to adapt to the bandages

[hazy echo]

If that was the case then this wouldn't exist

[ashen rose]

Imagine a tag team duo between Loki and Enel

[formal wagon]

[pine scaffold]

yeah so Loki can clearly see

[ashen perch]

Yea

[formal wagon]

sorry

[sweet anvil]

Been saying this fr

[urban lodge]

How do you explain the first image

[sage temple]

And this is an upscale since I judge his bandages covering his eyesight

[ashen perch]

Loki can just see through the bandages, that's probably related to his special eyes

[formal wagon]

how do you explain the end of an egghead... at the end of a year...

[sage temple]

Meaning his observation haki lets him see the bubbles

[wide star]

the giants told harald that he can still see

[blazing mantle]

So are they just thin bandages or what

[fallen meteor]

one layer of clothing x ray eyes theory

[calm wave]

bro asking the real questions

[formal wagon]

does it seem so?
how did this become your new bit?

[ashen rose]

His eyes are bulging bro

[sage temple]

This doesn't make sense to be the case

[ashen perch]

Sure yea

[blazing mantle]

What a kind young man

[formal wagon]

for some reason i can't stop

[pine scaffold]

bruh Loki fans are infighting now

[sage temple]

Yeah they aren't goggles they're literally just bandages covering his eyes

[pine scaffold]

this chat is nuts

[ashen perch]

I don't thinkits Haki, that I'm sure about

[sage temple]

Loki can see because of his observation Haki

[sage temple]

Sure based off what

[ashen rose]

Nah I'm just posting an observation

[urban lodge]

See, this is headcanon

[ashen rose]

Not debating or anything

[sage temple]

Either Observation Haki or VOAT

[ashen rose]

Carry on with your rambling so crates

[sage temple]

[ashen rose]

Be happy

[ashen perch]

None of these things are allowing him to clearly see lol

[sage temple]

We don't know for sure anyways so you got a point

[urban lodge]

I mean you

[formal wagon]

headcanon?

[calm wave]

loki's eyes so strong he can see thru his eyelids and bandages

[formal wagon]

........

[blazing mantle]

Loki agenda vs Gunko agenda

[fallen meteor]

in december

[pine scaffold]

idk what I'd pick ngl

[sage temple]

Observation Haki/VOAT could likely allow him to do that

[ashen perch]

What makes sense is if his eyes can simply see through the bandages because they are special

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/hell-no-oh-no-hu-what-popcorn-gif-12325900934325026511

[sage temple]

I'm thinking both of us

[ashen rose]

That sounds like a nightmare to live through, imagine trying to sleep and you see the ceiling

[fallen meteor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeajNpTLgrY

[urban lodge]

He says he can see through the bandages. Do we believe him or do we make up that he's using observation? Let's not forget that he's in sea stone chains

[sage temple]

We can't prove what we're saying both ways it's not like Loki has said "I can see using Observation Haki" or "These bandages are see-through"

[hazy echo]

https://x.com/asghoull/status/1976021123549757834?s=46

Julian (@Asghoull)

they were trying to have me killed

X · Oct 8, 2025, 8:25 PM

[steel stirrup]

MY BRAND!!!

[calm wave]

i'd rather goon over loki than a tree tbf

[ashen perch]

Loki having some Eye abilities is a strong possibility to me, so its just part of that I think

[ashen rose]

Nuclear bomb vs slave killer

[formal wagon]

imagining

[pine scaffold]

we do not believe Loki

he lied

[sage temple]

He says he can see the pot is boiling and that could easily be because of his observation abilities

[blazing mantle]

🧐

[steel stirrup]

Tree???

[blazing mantle]

Thanks for the fun fact bro

[urban lodge]

He's a devil fruit user, correct?

[ashen rose]

Alrighty then

[sage temple]

Nobody says the bandages are see-through or not see through anyways

[ashen rose]

Another Loki glazer it seems

[sage temple]

Which is why I said VoAT

[fallen meteor]

he can see stuff because he can shift his pov to the clouds fun fact

[sage temple]

Ok

[ashen perch]

Voat is also observation Haki

[formal wagon]

Top 10 imaginations in one piece

1. Eustass kid
2. Miss goldenweek
3. Vegapunk
4. Pappagu
5. Enel
   4.Bonney
6. Blackbeard
   8.rocks
7. Coby
8. Akainu

[steel stirrup]

Omg

[fallen meteor]

cloud logia solves everything

[pine scaffold]

I think its safe to assume its like the pinnacle of observation haki

[formal wagon]

damn the list is that fire huh 😭

[fallen meteor]

all the plot holes

[pine scaffold]

but idk

[formal wagon]

glue logia

[sage temple]

VoAT is an observation ability but it isn't Haki

[pine scaffold]

VOAT seems way more advanced than future sight to me

[formal wagon]

Voat is vampire boat

[steel stirrup]

Where is this stated

[formal wagon]

pin this

[ashen perch]

We know that because VOAT users are confirmed observation haki users, even when they have never shown the basic Observation Haki

[sage temple]

He's just saying that for some reason

[ashen perch]

Shirahoshi and Momonosuke for example

[rich hornet]

Do we

[fallen meteor]

i get the idea but that doesnt confirm anything

[ashen rose]

we Do

[ashen perch]

It does though

[steel stirrup]

Arsal wtf are you talking about?!

[sage temple]

No it doesn't

[formal wagon]

it=

[blazing mantle]

Has discussing Loki lowered the average iq count in this chat

[sage temple]

The common denominator being Observation Haki doesn't mean anything

[steel stirrup]

Wtf

Bro what is happening rn

[forest jacinth]

[ashen rose]

Idk dude I'm just watching it

[sage temple]

It's never been said that VoAT is Observation Haki

You can't just assume so

[formal wagon]

lets talk about lucci instead

[ashen rose]

Socrates is having a Socrates moment

He's becoming a philosopher

[forest jacinth]

i just wanted to say warra chapter

[ashen perch]

Shirahoshi and Momo are confirmed observation haki users from Vivre Cards when they have never used basic Observation Haki, I think its easy to infer why lol

[ashen rose]

True

[fallen meteor]

like we can think it's probably obs haki at it's peak, sure
but saying it's confirmed is a jump

[ashen perch]

It won't be spelled out for a while

[steel stirrup]

ARSAL WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT

[ashen rose]

Break week just started and we fighting over eyes

[sage temple]

Not really until VoAT has been said to be the same thing

[formal wagon]

it =

[ashen perch]

Brother what are you confused about

[ornate tartan]

when was the last time Oda drew a character getting killed on panel

even rocks was just defeated last ch

[ashen rose]

Vegapunk

[ashen perch]

Okay I'll walk you through it from the start

[ashen rose]

Saturn actually

[steel stirrup]

Where is this information you're getting coming from

[fallen meteor]

i think theres dead people on gv

[calm wave]

ayt boyz see u in 2 weeks

[ashen perch]

Shirahoshi and Momonsuke - they have VOAT, correct?

[ornate tartan]

Saturn was just Imu blowing him up from a distance

[fallen meteor]

the dudes gunko youtube arrow'd through

[fallen meteor]

probably dead maybe

[sage temple]

It purposfully leaves it inconclusive

[formal wagon]

wait Aisa is uranus?

who said that 😭

[ashen perch]

Yes, this is what I'm talking about Socrates, the implication is clear

[ornate tartan]

yeah those guys forsure I was kinda talking about major characters

because even Kaido and Big Mom weren’t shown to be dead either, just thrown into lava

[sage temple]

I see it as "contrary to popular belief Observation Haki isn't the same as Voice of All Things"

[ashen rose]

Chat getting enlightened by so crates, so I'm leaving and coming back when the dust has settled, brb

[fallen meteor]

major characters ehhhh probably saturn?

[ornate tartan]

oda scared of drawing ppl get killed on screen, major characters at least

[sweet anvil]

Disney piece

[sage temple]

How are they implying it's the same if they say it might be

If they were the same why not just say it

It looks like they're distinguishing the two on purpose

[trim lily]

because the story hasnt outright said it

[tough igloo]

COOK Sandman aka Oda wife aka Oda stalker aka Oda himself 😂

[ashen perch]

Because its upto Oda to say it

[ornate tartan]

that boy WB was talking and moving for 5-10 mins after he was basically dead😂

[digital spear]

Socrates and Vortex

[fallen meteor]

they are implying its the same but just not confirming it
i have no issue with implications it's just saying it is for sure that i'm against

[ashen perch]

If a guy who has never used basic Observation Haki abilities is confirmed to have Observation Haki, why do you think he has it?

[fallen meteor]

like when oda said franky was queens son, he just implied stuff but never went YEAH LOL

[steel stirrup]

I give that idea a 3/10

[pseudo gulch]

He kinda looks like he's from a very popular manga series about giants

[steel stirrup]

Trash

[ashen perch]

Also Marin I didn't say its confirmed per se, but its evident

[trim lily]

the voice of all things is probably observation yeah

[sage temple]

It's like saying:

"Pumpkins are really hearty for your body. Given this, it makes it sound like Pumpkins are vegetables"

But Pumpkins are fruit

[trim lily]

it could be some other independent thing but that doesnt seem as likely

[sage temple]

It's making it SOUND like something else

[ashen perch]

I said Shirahoshi and Momo are confirmed observation haki users despite never ever displaying observation haki abilities

[sage temple]

But it isn't exactly that

[ashen perch]

Answer me socrates, whats the explanation for this

Why did they call them Observation Haki users

[sage temple]

Vivre card information isn't always portrayed in the real world

[ashen perch]

???

[sage temple]

Because they are

[fallen meteor]

real world is frying me

[sage temple]

I mean in the story

[ashen perch]

Zoro debunks this

[sage temple]

How

[ashen perch]

His CoC was never mentioned there despite him unconsciously using it, they added it only after King v Zoro

Even the story showing it was not enough at first

[urban lodge]

That stuff is really weird because what even are their criteria

[lofty fern]

https://tenor.com/view/he's-alive-frankenstein-lego-piece-by-piece-he's-not-dead-gif-18125278998756326075

[digital spear]

what are you discussing

[urban lodge]

Because they listed Usopp as having obs

[fallen meteor]

uhh voat is observation haki yes or no confirmed or not

[sage temple]

They added Observation Haki to his vivre card only after King vs Zoro?

[steel stirrup]

Does he not have it

[frigid gulch]

Idt they’re consistent with it

[trim lily]

well post dressrosa it seemed pretty obvious

[frigid gulch]

But yea with Zoro it seems like they had to wait

[ashen perch]

YC I'm saying that Voat is observation haki because Momo and Shirahoshi were stated to have it despite never using actual CoO before

[frigid gulch]

[wet condor]

Observation Haki itself isn't the most consistent thing

[grand flower]

@ashen perch @hot cairn @digital spear sneak preview of my garp analysis if you guys are interested:

When Ace rebukes Garp's notion of the boys becoming accepted by the Navy, Garp doesn't attempt to correct him. When Ace starts to talk bad about Roger, Garp does speak up and try to correct him.

Garp attempts to rectify what Ace says about the pirate that Garp had the fiercest contention with, but not to rectify the organization that Garp wholeheartedly dedicates himself to and I think that says a lot.

[urban lodge]

Yes, but this means having control over it is not a criterion

[frigid gulch]

There was a Zoro birthday card that released and it listed him with conquerors

[urban lodge]

So it's weird that they took ages to put Zoro as having coc

[frigid gulch]

Then they pulled it and removed the conquerors

[ashen perch]

Eh true I forgot about Usopp lol

[trim lily]

it is funny how stingy they were with it

[frigid gulch]

But now the manga revealed he didn’t know about it

[frigid gulch]

So that may be why

[sage temple]

THANK YOU PENNY

[hollow dove]

Agreed, I’m beginning to see that. Gaban and Sommers have yet to even interact like was implied? Hopefully next chapter

[sage temple]

[hollow dove]

I also wish we got to see more of Rocks’ relationship with Eris / Teech, I feel like I can’t handle his tears as seriously as I should be, lol

[digital spear]

probably connected yeah. they could be born with obs like Aisa

[ashen perch]

Yeah thats what I am thinking

[trim lily]

yeah this gaban and sommers thing is especially weird

[frigid gulch]

I assume it mighta been some communication with the editors or something

[trim lily]

unless they met some other time unrelated to god valley??

gaban also never fought a knight so did roger just tell him he used acoc to beat xebec

[frigid gulch]

Cause I mean unless you subscribed to Oden haki

[ashen perch]

I can sorta see Gaban/Sommers be a fight in the future so maybe its that

[pseudo gulch]

Same

[frigid gulch]

He already used it in Wano

[sage temple]

Yeah but are they required to have used future sight or some observation haki ability in the story for it to be on their vivre card?

[trim lily]

it feels kind of like a wasted opportunity to not just have gaban fight sommers here but maybe oda has something else cooking up in the future

[frigid gulch]

Well Rayleigh & Gaban are heading back

[ashen perch]

I think them being so stingy with it and only sticking with what the story does is an argument in favor of what I'm saying

[frigid gulch]

That could be where they engage the knights

[trim lily]

it would make sense for sommers to ambush them here

[tough igloo]

I wonder where Kuma sent Eris & Teach .. Sorbet kingdom ? Lulusia , (doubt it ) , Drum Island ? idk all the places Kuma could’ve been to by this age

[trim lily]

sorbet probably

[ashen perch]

They're calling Momo and Shirahoshi observation haki users strictly based on their usage of VOAT, and not some real observation haki that they have secretly never used

[fallen meteor]

usopp's thing is kinda fucked to think about because we have a very clear observation representation for him, while zoro's conquerors was debatable since conquerors is dumb bullshit visually
so i think theres an argument there?

[trim lily]

didnt he send everyone there

[frigid gulch]

Initially I thought Sommers would get up and try to attack Ray

And Gaban would obviously stop him

[ashen perch]

Its what makes the most sense

[tough igloo]

i remember in the egghead flashback we saw people there but i can’t remember if he said he sent everybody there or not .. he might’ve

makes sense if he has to send them to places he’s been before

he ain’t been to many places by this age

[trim lily]

itd be kind of weird for him to just send them to a random island

[blazing mantle]

Next chapter I guess

[trim lily]

especially if hes saving them

[ashen perch]

And his relation with Roger, because I have no idea what to make of it

[sage temple]

Alr

[fallen meteor]

maybe he sent them to the slaver ships

[trim lily]

evil kuma theory

[blazing mantle]

Did Oda forget that summers is scared of gaban

[fallen meteor]

!!!

[trim lily]

theres a chance we see this come up later

[frigid gulch]

Even Sorbet would be better than God Valley

[trim lily]

maybe sommers infiltrated elbaf during the whole harald scuffle and gaban confronted him

[frigid gulch]

So could be there

[ashen perch]

I like the idea that he's just so traumatized by Rayleigh that he thinks his equal is well, equally terrifying

[tough igloo]

yeah Kuma probably sent eris & teach to sorbet and from there they went to i’m assuming Lulusia or maybe Drum Island (still need to know why BBP went there , he doesn’t visit islands for no reason like Luffy)

[fallen meteor]

i dont think the HK's clashed with roger's crew just at GV

[trim lily]

question is how does rayleigh/gaban know how to hurt him

[urban lodge]

I don't think he sent them to Sorbet because he would have to send them to the red line first

And then use his powers again

I think it was just him, Iva and Ginny

[hearty shore]

i mean he'd just eaten the fruit that day, i don't think he has control on where he sends people at that point

[tough igloo]

i thought we saw in the egghead flashback god valley survivors at sorbet

[fallen meteor]

he sends them to marigeoise

efficient evil kuma

[lofty fern]

I can only guess Roger told them

[formal wagon]

ngl dragon seemed upset this chapter

[trim lily]

but roger never fought a knight either

[dense rapids]

They’re gonna find out next chapter

[frigid gulch]

Roger hasn’t fought a knight

[dense rapids]

Roger and Garp won’t be able to move

[lofty fern]

Dragon was crashing out the best way he can

[urban lodge]

He probably sent them to a random island they made a stop at along the way to god valley

[formal wagon]

like honestly dragon was being kind of rude...

thats no way to talk to people

[fallen meteor]

true

[ashen perch]

Yea this is true, it wouldn't be surprising for Roger Pirates to have clashed with the HKs after this I guess. He was after the poneglyphs and the WG doesn't like all that

[frigid gulch]

The only way it makes sense is if they tried attacking without conquerors first and found it didn’t work

[lofty fern]

I highly doubt they would have brought any of the slaves out for exercise

[dense rapids]

Gloriosa going with the Roger Pirates

I wonder if they’re going to drop her off at Amazon Lily

[frigid gulch]

Then they conquerors and see it slows down regen

So they’re like “ahh conquerors works”

[urban lodge]

I don't think that's necessary

[fallen meteor]

i think she's at sea for a long time before returning

[lofty fern]

I can't wait to see Roger throw her off the ship

[gloomy tree]

[urban lodge]

If he docked by the island that probably counts as being there

[ornate tartan]

what if Oda make Davy Jones a fishman

[lofty fern]

I think he probably has to actually see and know the place in order to send people to it

[tough igloo]

he already drew him as a human

[hearty shore]

i mean tbf if you keep asking your superiors why you're deployed to an unaffiliated island and they just tell you shut up and then you find dead bodies of innocents and even some marines here and there and you're under the blackmail of having your teammates killed if you flee, i don't think you're gonna be chill either

[fallen meteor]

roger goes down in GV, they get him, he wakes up a week later and Gloriosa has been taking care of him
he instantly gets mad and throws her off the ship

[tough igloo]

missing teeth like teach

[tranquil blade]

Even after realizing Shakky will never want him he still wants nothing to do with Gloriosa 🙂‍↕️

[ornate tartan]

yea ik but i doubt that old design is gonna b used

he’s gonna be human though

[clever idol]

Or just visualize an island and the fruit just sends them to whatever nearby matches since it is based on memory and therefore vizualization anyway

[lofty fern]

No one wants second. Best,

[tough igloo]

that old design looking like teach a lil bit was probably intentional and that’s what davy looked like as a shriveled up old man (like gloriosa& stussy

especially since now we know he’s related to Teach

[ashen perch]

I think he saw islands on his way to and from Marie Geoise so it's gonna be fine

He'll send them atleast away from GV

[trim lily]

yeah the egghead kuma flashback never goes into detail on what happened to the other people

we just know he sent himself, ginny and iva to sorbet

[tough igloo]

oh true that makes sense , so he doesn’t have to have physically been on the island before that he sends someone to but as long as he sees it from a distance that’s enough . ?

[trim lily]

maybe?

its not really clear

[hazy echo]

It’s more like the action itself of saving people rather than what happening afterwards is what counts I think

[clever idol]

Yea

[ashen perch]

I imagine that's how it probably is

[tough igloo]

yeah that would make it easier as well for Oda to just say he sent them to random islands he saw

instead of trying to invent other islands that slave kuma went to

[ashen perch]

Yeah

[trim lily]

i feel this implies he met them though

unless it was before he sent them

[ornate tartan]

😂😂😂😂

[urban lodge]

It was before probably

[lofty fern]

I think only seeing them wouldn't count. In that case you could send them anywhere that he just saw in a book or saw from afar. I think he actually needs to have gone there like actually been on the island and seen the island

[urban lodge]

We saw some of them crying

[trim lily]

i guess they better hope he sent them somewhere safe then lol

[tough igloo]

yeah i wouldn’t be surprised if oda says all those people were thanking him on god valley as he was sending them away

[hazy echo]

I just realize

What if the next One Piece movie villain backstory is tied to God Valley

[trim lily]

could be

[tough igloo]

they gonna say the thing that saturn & imu were worried about unleashing on god valley is the main villain of the movie lol

[tranquil blade]

Bullet 2

[trim lily]

the secret pirate who even imu feared and was locked in the prison beneath god valley...

[ashen perch]

What about his slave ship being docked at some of the islands? Maybe that counts

[hazy echo]

There was like 3-4 villains that got their backstory tied to Impel Down

[grand flower]

Dock for supplies and such

[ashen perch]

Yeah

[tough igloo]

the villain is a davy clan member who was domi reversi but never killed lol

[hazy echo]

Bullet, Patrick Redfield, the 3D2Y guy and some other one I’m missing

[trim lily]

shiki

[lofty fern]

I saw some suggest that the people that dragon tried to save will get killed anyway because they're on a Marine ship and they're going to be with them for some time And Saturn could just decide to have that ship destroyed just like the ones from egghead

[tranquil blade]

Shiki of course

[hazy echo]

Nah Shiki was before the arc I mean

[tranquil blade]

Oh well uh

[hazy echo]

The spin-off stuff had it as them escaping the prison when BB did the thing

https://tenor.com/view/blackbeard-one-piece-walking-marshall-d-teach-zehaha-gif-26977524

[tranquil blade]

Maybe Tesoro or Zephyr had something I never watched the movies though

[trim lily]

nah

[ashen perch]

I joked about it before but with Impel Down exhausted of its prisoners, they can now turn to Hachinosu and its prison system. Oda basically confirmed it as a worse Impel Down after all.

[hazy echo]

Tesoro was from Fisher Tiger actually

[blazing mantle]

Gil next chapter

[trim lily]

zephyr was just a rogue marine

[hazy echo]

Tesoro kinda had the same thing as Hancock going on

[trim lily]

question is how do you raise the stakes even further

[wet condor]

A former admiral

Respect him Dolf

[hazy echo]

Being enslaved at Mariejoa and then escaping when Fisher Tiger raid

[trim lily]

yeah yeah

[tranquil blade]

The prisoner even Rocks was too scared to release

[trim lily]

im still a fan of my secret 6th gorosei idea

[ashen perch]

Avery gets it

[hazy echo]

The Zephyr one is interesting

[trim lily]

how do they make a villain thats stronger than gear 5

[hazy echo]

Since his whole thing is that the WG made the Pirate that cut his arm off a Warlord

[digital spear]

for new movie?

[trim lily]

yeah

[tranquil blade]

Oh yeah next one piece movie could have Imu involved in it

[hazy echo]

And we don’t know which one

[urban lodge]

The next movie villain will be the secret mastermind of the charity scam Rocks raided

[ashen perch]

The prisoner that Rocks never released, or the prisoner that uh, ruled it before and went extreme diff with Rocks, anything works

[trim lily]

film wang

[hazy echo]

I guess it might’ve been Weevil that cut off Z’s arm?

[trim lily]

probably yeah

[tranquil blade]

Is Weevil that tuff

[trim lily]

its zephyr

so yeah

[hazy echo]

He’s the only one where it would’ve made sense timeline wise

[ashen perch]

Weevil is that tuff

[ornate tartan]

it’s all about the mass garp

[tranquil blade]

He's supposed to be as strong as a younger Whitebeard but does that count like haki or is it just

[ashen perch]

This is reserved for burn scar, sorry

[hazy echo]

Probably physically

[trim lily]

i guess hes just that fearsome

[ornate tartan]

wonder what viz will translate it to

[trim lily]

but my 6th gorosei is a woman

(imu locked her away because they are sexist)

[ashen perch]

Only burn scar is allowed to be the secret Gorosei, the Corazon to Imu's Doflamingo

[tranquil blade]

It'll be completely different

[sage temple]

I pray it stays mass

[hazy echo]

It’ll prob be weight

[sage temple]

Even better ngl

[hazy echo]

You’re gonna carry that weight

[blazing mantle]

Let’s bring this guy back

[blazing mantle]

Yo good idea penny

What else will happen in the next movie

[trim lily]

oda would rather die than canonize zephyr

[hazy echo]

Gear 5

[blazing mantle]

Grass is green

[blazing mantle]

He lowkey let them do this though

[urban lodge]

Another spoiler of a future major canon event

They'll spoil Imu's design

[blazing mantle]

Doesn’t every movie do this

[trim lily]

i think its too early to get something with knights but theres a chance the gorosei are involved somehow

[blazing mantle]

😯

[trim lily]

i hope saturn is alive in the movie

[hazy echo]

Not everyone but all of the recent ones yea

[trim lily]

please

itd be so funny

[ornate tartan]

Movie Gear 5 animation would be 🔥

[trim lily]

you WILL be buying tickets

[hazy echo]

Ngl I hope Imu is just a black blob

[ashen perch]

Miserable

[brittle lark]

imu is black triangle

[sage temple]

They've already spoiled Loki's design

[urban lodge]

When

[ornate tartan]

lol this the type of shit ppl nitpick from every chapter😂

[sage temple]

Toei in One Piece in Love

[sage temple]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCPgslwamWw

[urban lodge]

Oh, not exactly what I mean

[ashen perch]

I made the mistake of scrolling down Twitter and I thought I was down on the chapter but there's way worse things going down there

[urban lodge]

The movies spoil stuff that hasn't even been shown in the manga yet

[hazy echo]

Yea

[tranquil blade]

It's never gonna end

[sage temple]

Ohhh

[hazy echo]

Figarland originally came from Film Red

[trim lily]

and shanks being one

[ornate tartan]

u can’t escape the algorithm arsal
even if u just wanna see one piece news it’s gonna force feed u trolls and bullshit😂

[urban lodge]

Laugh Tale too right?

[tranquil blade]

Movie spoiled the real name of the final island

Yeah

[trim lily]

yep stampede

[ashen perch]

There's no way they find their way of reading the series appealing, it sounds so miserable

[urban lodge]

Crazy

[trim lily]

i dont know if there was anything before that though

[dense rapids]

Which character is gonna SSS next

[tranquil blade]

Is gonna what

[hazy echo]

Film Z had the Aokiji stuff

[dense rapids]

Solo Sky Split

[trim lily]

just his wounds

[ashen perch]

I saw someone complaining that Gil Bastar had Peronas fruit and I was genuinely baffled, what the hell goes through their brains

[trim lily]

nothing really major

[digital spear]

did that ever happen

[sage temple]

Maybe Luffy

[tranquil blade]

Joyboy's haki

[dense rapids]

Rocks and joy boy

[trim lily]

funny to imagine someone complaining about such a minor thing

[honest garden]

I didn't notice someone using perona's fruit wtf

[digital spear]

when did Rocks do it

[sage temple]

-# Loki

[hazy echo]

Him being amputated from the fight I mean

[wet condor]

People don't like it because it makes the world feel small

[honest garden]

I did read it on my phone when I was drunk though

[ashen perch]

Obviously Oda could invent a power for Gil Bastar but DF cycles have been a thing for centuries in the series

[dense rapids]

This chapter

[hazy echo]

That actually didn’t get shown until Egghead

[blazing mantle]

Don’t call him a someone

[ashen perch]

It absolutely doesn't

[blazing mantle]

Put some respect on his name

[wet condor]

I mean even if it did I don't care

[dense rapids]

Ngl the Gil bastar thing makes sense because he could see ghosts in his story

[wet condor]

That's just the complaint I see

[trim lily]

its just a cute reference yeah

[blazing mantle]

Peronas ghosts don’t hold grudges and take over her body

[ornate tartan]

I hope we get a mention of the Galley La Shipwrights from Harald after Rocks death

[dense rapids]

And basically confirms God Valley is thriller bark

[trim lily]

it does not but go ahead

[blazing mantle]

W haircut

[hazy echo]

Actually

[urban lodge]

Crazy how that instantly made him goated

[dense rapids]

Gil dies on god valley and his fruit reincarnates on a nearby fruit

[blazing mantle]

Is this all it took for you to switch up

[sage temple]

How come they smile

[blazing mantle]

A devil fruit?

[sage temple]

Do the ghosts always smile

I thought they frown

[urban lodge]

One of the best devil fruits, yes

[dapper tree]

gil baster 2nd best rocks crew member

[honest garden]

Oh, this isn't my fault

[hazy echo]

Idk if Film Gold had CP0 Lucci before the manga or not

[blazing mantle]

Behind Shiki

🤫

[urban lodge]

Also it's not a switch up, I never hated on Gil

[tranquil blade]

Yes

[blazing mantle]

My bad

[tranquil blade]

Some frown but some smile

[grand flower]

Technically

[dapper tree]

shiki number one, then gil then ganzui

[ashen perch]

Semimaru and Bartolomeo, Higurashi and Bon, Ganzui and Gem, Gil Bastar and Perona, none of these characters have anything in common. If anything, its a cool piece of world building, DF cycles is an awesome concept

[grand flower]

He was in the manga, but a cameo in Dressrosa

[blazing mantle]

Truth nuke

[dapper tree]

[trim lily]

film gold teasing lucci vs sabo in its trailers only for them to be in 1min of the movie is so funny

[grand flower]

Film Gold was the first time we actually saw Lucci in any kind of action

[blazing mantle]

Most of that fight was offscreened

[grand flower]

CP0 Lucci that is

[blazing mantle]

Even though sabo lowkey would have wiped

😴

[ashen perch]

But op fans have become strangely miserable so what can be said lol

[hazy echo]

Honestly

[trim lily]

we're in the doomposting era again

[blazing mantle]

Some of them have stuff in common

Yo think about it

[hazy echo]

Lucci vs Sabo would be a good fight even now

[wet condor]

Doompost about shit that actually matters

[blazing mantle]

Gil matters

[trim lily]

like not getting claw guy

[ornate tartan]

I can’t believe Gil Bastar was hitting ppl w Negative Hollow😂

[blazing mantle]

Don’t act surprised when the next one piece special is about wanted

[wet condor]

Claw guy?

[blazing mantle]

Ziguma

[digital spear]

thats very likely to happen

[wet condor]

https://tenor.com/view/who-dat-snoop-gif-15116696

[dapper tree]

when he used it it made people happy

positive hollow

[urban lodge]

It's also especially awesome because it's even more Cross Guild are the new Rocks pirates fuel

[tranquil blade]

Well 3 of them do, it's Rocks pirates to Cross Guild (Pretend Kyo is secretly Higurashi which is your theory)

[ashen perch]

I like to think that Gil Bastar probably accidentally ate the fruit as a kid and never figured out that its why he can interact with ghosts

[wet condor]

Oh I've seen this screenshot before

[hazy echo]

Hi Pasta

[dapper tree]

he's a funny lil guy

[digital spear]

but im worried if Ikki Yako and Gods gift for the future will also get specials

I hope so

[dapper tree]

Yo

[trim lily]

i hope gods gift does

[blazing mantle]

Good headcanon

Don’t worry Arsal Oda will explain all this in the next sbs

Trust me

[digital spear]

my favorite one

[blazing mantle]

This is like a guaranteed question

[trim lily]

mine too i think

[hazy echo]

Pasta you’re running out of time

[ashen perch]

Gem is retired tho, so is probably Bon, its only 1 really

[dapper tree]

For?

[tranquil blade]

Wait the bomb fruit guy isnt dead is he

[ornate tartan]

😭😭😭

[digital spear]

nope

[trim lily]

not yet

[dapper tree]

Am I dying

[grand flower]

how dare you be nuanced and level headed

[tranquil blade]

Eh you know what

It's close enough

[digital spear]

I guess nobody dies? lol

[blazing mantle]

Gem is alive

Ganzui is dead

[dapper tree]

yes

[digital spear]

(except Rocs)

[trim lily]

apparently all the rocks pirates survive god valley

unless like 10 get killed next chapter

[dapper tree]

no one died on god valley

[tranquil blade]

Except the claw guy

[hazy echo]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-rabbit-alice-gif-9929725

[blazing mantle]

John got neg diffed by his own crew

[wet condor]

All the ones that matter

[ashen perch]

They just die later

[dapper tree]

OHHHHHHHHH

[digital spear]

silent demon Bogard finally emerges

[blazing mantle]

There’s one rocks pirate who hasn’t been defeated….

[trim lily]

barbell...

[dapper tree]

shiki

[blazing mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-zoro-roronoa-zoro-shiki-shiki-one-piece-gif-5836526422328853292

[sage temple]

If Shiki dies next chapter I'm drinking myself to sleep

[dapper tree]

he ain't dying

[trim lily]

imagine if he did

[blazing mantle]

???

[trim lily]

timeline be damned

[blazing mantle]

Timelines bro….

[tranquil blade]

Bogard might be the fakest demon in fiction

[digital spear]

when did this even happen why are they on some farm

[wet condor]

Wtf

[sweet anvil]

We see him 15 years later bro

[ashen perch]

What SBS is meant to be tbh, Oda explaining tiny details that most didn't even notice

[hazy echo]

Yea 100th chapter this Sunday

[sage temple]

I thought yall said strong world wasn't canon

[tranquil blade]

Wano if it was good:

[blazing mantle]

Good

[urban lodge]

Bro CANNOT legally drink

[wet condor]

So much confusing shit about this

[hazy echo]

https://tenor.com/view/usopp-one-piece-anime-long-nose-attack-gif-17145025

[digital spear]

I hope Oda gets stormed with tons of Gil Bastar questions

[blazing mantle]

Good

[sweet anvil]

Chapter 0 is canon until the last page

[blazing mantle]

I hope so

[brittle basin]

Chapter?

[dapper tree]

No one died on god valley except for Rocks and Garling's reputation

[trim lily]

oda should canonize his bounty in wanted

[wet condor]

I'm guessing this and the shiki zoro thing are form the same source?

[sage temple]

The last page must also be true

[blazing mantle]

The really high one or the 970 million

[sage temple]

He said at least

[honest garden]

0 people care about gil bastar unfortunately

[sage temple]

Have patience

[digital spear]

I never recignized the Zoro vs Shiki part in this

[hazy echo]

Shiki is still canon regardless of Chapter 0

[dapper tree]

I care

[tranquil blade]

Actually the entire holy knights' reputation because what did they even do

[trim lily]

the 87 billion one is the canon one

[blazing mantle]

Speak for yourself dude

[ashen perch]

I also care

[wet condor]

I was gonna read about his story, and then I decided not to

[sweet anvil]

Wait I forgot what part isn’t canon but I think there’s a small part that isn’t canon

[honest garden]

You guys aren't people

[blazing mantle]

Free upscale I guess

[dapper tree]

They are a bunch of bums

[digital spear]

We all care

[sweet anvil]

I just realised

[urban lodge]

He'll make it 870 million

[sweet anvil]

After marineford what was sengoku using bandages for

[trim lily]

oda is still making me ask this

[blazing mantle]

970 million

WORLDS STRONGEST SNIPER

[sweet anvil]

Dude just wanted to fit in with the injured marines

[wet condor]

Roger on fraudwatch

[blazing mantle]

He outguns that deadbeat yasopp

[trim lily]

please oda i need to know what the hell the knights do

[wet condor]

Highest bounty in pirating history my ass

[sweet anvil]

Yassop

[warm cradle]

Chat new slander dropped

[trim lily]

why are they never there to help in mariejois

[blazing mantle]

Snipes that warping fruit augur

[blazing mantle]

Gil

[sweet anvil]

Kid katakuri appearing in all of them is so funny

[hazy echo]

Yea it’s from a DS game

[warm cradle]

You talking about right now in present time?

[hazy echo]

Gigant Battle

[digital spear]

Hes so cute

[trim lily]

in general

[warm cradle]

He aurafarmed while they fought

[trim lily]

every time we've seen mariejois attacked the knights have been strangely absent

lazy bums

[ornate tartan]

positive hollow😂

[warm cradle]

When we're they first mentioned again

Post wano?

[trim lily]

like 100 chapters ago

[blazing mantle]

They don’t want fisher tiger to neg them

[digital spear]

he makes me happy so it works

[hazy echo]

Mariejoa incident with Leo and Sai attacking Charlie

[blazing mantle]

Known fact gunko was ducking fisher tiger

[trim lily]

kuma attacking, the revos attacking

[dapper tree]

cute funny lil guy with four arms

[urban lodge]

It would be awesome if the ghosts had different effects based on the personality of the user

[ashen perch]

Fisher Tiger was simply too strong for the HKs, you're not ready for this surprise flashback

[warm cradle]

Back then?

[trim lily]

id believe it now

[dapper tree]

low diffs zoro btw

[formal wagon]

😭

[digital spear]

so glue

[wet condor]

Fisher Tiger could get upscaled and I wouldn't complain

[warm cradle]

Pureblood fishman haki

[blazing mantle]

Hopefully

Maybe the anime will expand the scene

[wet condor]

Like a massive upscale. It can be entirely inconsistent with him getting beaten by Strawberry

I wouldn't care

[grand flower]

Gonna use this as proof that fishman karate is an abyss weakness

[blazing mantle]

Gil can take out some fodder marines

[formal wagon]

keep in mind zoro is 3rd strongest in the series after akainu imu and blackbeard 😭

[blazing mantle]

?

[formal wagon]

whats so damn confusing huh

[ashen perch]

A Fisher Tiger upscale is a Jinbe upscale too, I can't wait

[blazing mantle]

Errrrr

Nothing sir

[ashen perch]

True

[trim lily]

does that mean hes 5th strongest

[tranquil blade]

Shiki went from rivaling Roger and Whitebeard to losing to rookies so it can be done

[warm cradle]

This is post wano panel right

[hazy echo]

Nope

[blazing mantle]

Shut up

[formal wagon]

🤔

[warm cradle]

Pretty sure it is

[blazing mantle]

SHIKI VS LUFFY IS NOT CANON

[tranquil blade]

I mean it literally did happen as a fan of Shiki

[blazing mantle]

SHIKI VS GARP AND SENGOKU IS CANON

[tranquil blade]

Well maybe it didnt happen but

[trim lily]

all the movies are canon you silly billy'

[warm cradle]

Movie aged so bad 😭

[tranquil blade]

Moria went from fighting Kaido to losing to rookies

[ashen perch]

Shiki fans in what year 🙂‍↕️🙂‍↕️?

[tranquil blade]

That's canon'

[blazing mantle]

Yeah cause that actually happened

[dapper tree]

he got fat

[blazing mantle]

Like sengoku and garp vs shiki

[dapper tree]

BUT

Don't worry

[digital spear]

Warp (Roger level) + Sengou (Garp level) = Shiki so Shiki = 2 Roger level = Pre timeskip Luffy so Luffy is already way stronger than Roger

[ashen perch]

Movie aged incredibly well, I CAN now see Shiki lose to pre ts Luffy

[blazing mantle]

Don’t switch up yall

[trim lily]

pre ts luffy was rocks level

[blazing mantle]

Stay on that side

[ashen perch]

He's such a loser in GV, its becoming clear

[hearty shore]

shiki movie would've been fine if it'd been made now

[dapper tree]

Moriah coming back as strong as the admirals

[blazing mantle]

I wouldn’t mind Shiki losing to gear 5 Luffy

[digital spear]

[blazing mantle]

That’s just Shiki upscale

[hazy echo]

Holy Knights got first mentioned in the middle of Aramaki’s fight with the Samurai
https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Chapter_1054

[blazing mantle]

Cause in the same movie he beats every strawhat at the same time

[inner agate]

sengoku needed garp to stop shiki...

[blazing mantle]

This spread is so goated

[hazy echo]

So like around end of Wano but not exactly post Wano

[digital spear]

I think thats what he meant with Post Wano

[runic dock]

It’s crazy to think without garp’s presence the marines would be completely irredeemable as a faction , these words hold so much weight , I keep going over them

[digital spear]

at the end of Wano

[runic dock]

Amazing fucking chapter 😭

[digital spear]

Monkey W family

[urban lodge]

I love Garp

[blazing mantle]

Lowkey one of the perfect god valley chapters

[hazy echo]

Post Wano is like the stuff between Hancock and Blackbeard, Buggy Cross Guild, and Sabo in Lulusia I’d say

[blazing mantle]

There wasn’t a single mid moment

[urban lodge]

He keeps rising up my favorites

[ruby moat]

Ya this chapter was great and I haven’t even had the chance to read it on something other than my phone yet

[trim lily]

i feel about the same about garp after all this

[wet condor]

lmao

[trim lily]

hes alright

[wet condor]

Why is that cracking me up

[blazing mantle]

Bartsky

[hazy echo]

The stuff between Luffy and co leaving Wano and their encounter with Lilith & Bonney

[blazing mantle]

Join the Gil agenda

Worlds strongest sniper

[ruby moat]

Did he have the Perona fruit

[digital spear]

sure but Lil Mug didnt disagree with that being in chapter 1054 he just called it post wano because its around the end of wano

[blazing mantle]

Yeah

[ruby moat]

Yeah that’s cool I can support him

[blazing mantle]

Hooray!

[sage temple]

Why is the perona fruit important

[runic dock]

That’s fair , sometimes one line is still not enough for some , I still hope we get him and dragon arguing or talking at some point in the series

[digital spear]

I swear Perona used a ghost gun in an anime episode but cant find it

[blazing mantle]

More people like him now cause he has a cool fruit

I don’t mind

[ruby moat]

Bc it’s cool

[hazy echo]

Fair I just consider post Wano the stuff right after Luffy leaves the country

But before Egghead actually starts

[runic dock]

Agreed

That’s how these cover stories timelines worked

[digital spear]

I always believed in Gil

[sage temple]

Dude hasn't said the name of the fruit for 6 months btw

[blazing mantle]

Thank you for being loyal

[brittle basin]

well now it adds more evidence to this place being Thriller Bark

[sage temple]

Oooo true

[digital spear]

Did you really look that up

[sage temple]

Yeah

[runic dock]

Fully on board the GV thriller bark train

[warm cradle]

Thought this was after, guess it was at the end

[sage temple]

He still has called it the "perona fruit" for the past 6 months

[digital spear]

I mean we are at the end of God Valley how does it become Thriller Bark now

[grand flower]

Five more chapters of fight