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What if he was Akainu's father for example, he did die in the same year as his birth so maybe he was the father that never existed in his life. The father that could have prevented him from becoming well, HIM
There’s no in between
A kind loving decent admiral, totally at odds to what his son became
oh and he loved puppies
he was the original Red Dog
This is also why Blackbeard is destined to fail too for the exact same reasoning with his crew too.
his son inherited the name, but not the love for puppies
Losing his father and being raised by Tsuru really did a number on Akainu
I wish the BBP titanic captains felt more imposing because then I'd be okay with them being the Rocks pirates parallel
he was raised by Tsuru?
I was kidding about raised but it’s implied she was his mentor
thats what Cross Guild exists for
there really is no “rocks pirates parallel” in the current storyline
goatkainu
Garp mentored Kuzan, Sengoku mentored Borsalino and Tsuru mentored Sakazuki was implied by chapter 0
😭 he's named after...
When Sengoku is about to go after Shiki, Kizaru is with him
rocks pirates were meant to be irreplaceable
speaking of CG, Gil Bastar having the horo horo fruit is yet another point in favor of CG = Rocks Pirates, because Perona is eventually joining Buggy
Kuzan is with Garp and Tsuru and Akainu are in the background
I gotta check that out again, I forgot that
Tsuru is actually the most evil of the og marine trio
and I also have to concede
it unfortunately is also a point in favor of Boa joining Cross Guild...
What did she do
only thing saving sengoku reputation is that his fruit is goated in blox fruits
Mentor Akainu
Oda..
What is he trying to say

If garp mentored kuzan and tsuru mentored akainu
"When you see someone that looks suspicious, kill them"
Who was kizarus mentor
oh nice observation Shuron, its true
Sengoku
Tsuru does seem to be leaving with Akainu on her ship here
No wonder kizaru turned out like that
Kizaru probably learned the palm strikes he taught Sentomaru from Sengoku
hope Oda addresses it in the future
Akainu and that good man
That could be how Kizaru learned palm fighting
Ah yeah wrong scene on my end but that’s it
What the hell did she teach that man
lmao
Sengoku needs hype moments and aura
Sengoku will get his moments
thats a downscale
SN from the convo earlier but seeing Sengokus Buddha form reminded me
you wouldnt say this if we actually got to see sengoku do somehting
I think the only Haki fight we’ve ever had was Sanji clashing with Vergo
I might still say it depending on what he does
pure haki? uh
Well Roger and Garp did clash that one time
Yeah a fight where the only thing aside from being super strong is pure Haki being used
Prime sengoku vs prime whitebeard
I didn’t count that cause it was ome panel
Harald vs Rocks I’d say too
Oh yeah them too
I forgot about that
Sanji vs Vergo and Rocks vs Harald might be the only Haki fights that actually exist
yea I guess it is true lol, clashes aside
Even Roger and Garp based on what we’ve seen
There were some offscreen pure haki fights as well I guess
Maha v Izo kinda?
Their fights likely were like that
maha had rokushiki so i think that breaks it being pure haki
cause Izo used Haki bullets and Maha used haki finger pistol.. but eh, barely counts
just remembered this one piece fan exists
Quoting mussie (@mussi3x)
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It's actually crazy to me that there are so many interesting characters in One Piece, and you still decide to become a fan of Sengoku
true
I remember this person
i respect being a diehard bellamy fan
Being a Bellamy fan during Dressrosa was a respected position among the fanbase
I still respect it actually
Infamous for spending no time on it by Wano illiterates, cant count it
Eris surviving God Valley makes this panel hit so much different now
Gara...
I wouldnt DQ it because of bullets and Rokushiki
There used to be a time where Blackbeard was the better hakiman than Shanks
but Oda hasnt shown it
That’s like saying it’s not a Haki fight with Garp cause he’s not just shooting Haki projectiles and he’s coating his fist
yeah I guess so, but sword and normal haki kicks/punches are closer to pure haki
but It still somewhat counts
when i think of a haki fight i think of basic punching/kicking or sword slashing
If rokushiki disqualifies a haki fight then alot of sword techniques would too
rokushiki is unique enough to distinguish itself
i’m sure she told him everything that her & Rocks shared with each other… yami yami feels all but confirmed to be 1 of the 2 DFs that Rocks said was needed
Like air slashes
Izo's whole thing was that he could use Ryuo with his bullets to damage Kaido, haki was a big part of his arsenal
its a sliding scale
Devil Fruits and technology like lasers are what I’d say stops something from being a Haki fight
Damn near every fight features them
yall wouldn’t get it
Quoting mussie (@mussi3x)
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It's actually crazy to me that there are so many interesting characters in One Piece, and you still decide to become a fan of Sengoku
X Drake 
Rokushiki is no different than three sword style in my eyes
Drake fan at any point in time is a highly respectable position to take imho
I mean what ? Maybe paper art
there’s even a stelly fan
three sword style is unique enough so i dont mind it
@grand flower Sharon I need you to be the judge here
sabos brother
But it isn’t really something I’d say is excluded
Okie doke
yea fair fair
Is this still imu inside?
yeah
Yea
i hope saturn gets bonus pay for this
When you trust a fart but betrayal happens
Imu looks so terrifying there
Thanks
gunkmu was a lot more intimidating than saturnmu lol
With that little panel, redbei survives another week 
Yeah he’s got the ring eyes
Drake is cool, and hot, its very easy to imagine someone being a superfan of his
just appearance wise saturn looked a bit sillier
We were this close to ending the survivor’s game
Idk if I would call him hot
he ranks high in popularity polls by the sheer power of being hot
ever really
What is this from
Bro thinks hes american dragon jake long
good question
game i think? maybe movie
Gigant Battle
have you seen the amount of fanart and just like, fanfic about him?
It’s from a DS game
No
people are crazy about him
oh wow x drake got 41st in the last poll
I really do just hate that hybrid form of his
it's @digital spear
Drake has been #35, #58, #90 and # 41 in all his popularity poll appearances
he will be a lot lower yea, he has barely appeared after all
Who was #67 in the popularity poll
latest?
!mods we need to act on this
Yeah
what an awesome sequence
No way
It was post GV Rocks
Holy shit
or Hiriluk, as he liked to call himself
kaido as the main villain of the arc was one spot above rockstar
He wasnt hot enough sadly, that was Kaido's issue
Thanks to the little eyes on saturn, @stray prism redbei survives another week. Meanwhile, @lofty fern continues her strong performance in the game. See you next chapter. Please choose wisely for next week
Corazon is also still relatively high in the polls iirc
Am I bugging or did Rocks just split the skies almost completely by himself
Kaido is a big meathead
It’s Oda’s alter ego
Corazon literally isnt fucking real
Katakuri, Doflamingo and Crocodile manage to rank high up despite being villains because they are hot
holy shit demonjibe almost got out
probably
That was so close
I think he did it on his own
Cause usually it’s from clashing
i still cannot fathom corazon being as popular as he is
People love Corazon
its sadboy doffy
whats not to like
like i get it corazon is cool and all but THIS popular still
Law fans boost + he really did have a touching story
Just imagine if Rocks got the fruit he wanted 💔
BM was also like only 70 and 86 in her popularity poll appearances
yeah once i noticed how popular Corazon was i was shocked
But law fans are deep
just you wait till BM returns as her 48 year old self though, we will fix this
I was rereading egghead and totally forgot crocodile and Doffy have a seraphim
If that happened then he would have put imu 6 feet under
I genuinely had the Irene champion text ready to be sent but I did one last check and redbei squeezed in
yeah ever since Punk Hazard , Law was shooting up the popularity polls and by dressrosa he had took zoro #2 spot lol
yeah they only ever appeared for a panel lol
Yea Crocodile Doffy and Moria got Seraphims
Croc seraphim having the scar lol
its happening btw
once again we see her saying kaido owns her a LIFETIME debt
she's totally taking his soul
I actually pray Zoro slimes out Killingham offscreen because if he doesnt Killingham is gonna be like top 30 in the next poll
They were being employed to deal with Crocodile
He's got that look about him
thank you Marin, I knew I was forgetting something to talk about from the chapter
I know how op fans are
the age is getting to me
its tragic that carrot placing 8th sent oda into a spiral and began hating her

if only she placed better, like 6th or 7th
That one editor that was freaked tf out
Garchu
but yes, its over, finito, owari, for all of you, yes YOUU, BM haters
Oda was convinced it was a bad idea
He got worried if she got in the crew she’d place above Zoro and Sanji so she put her down
This is Gregs fault btw
she is coming back, after collecting her debt from Kaido, in the form of his soul
If he never mentioned furries on that tv thing
speaking of
Can’t wait to see our little bunny back with the crew
Domi Reversi is a "curse"
Carrot is not joining
the best meme of all time????
7th place though
You can't curse the accursed
They look like twins side by side
I'm afraid
I thought she was #10
Robin was robbed btw, she was shooting for #4 for most of the poll till Nami fans got mad
dont be, she's just a bunny
7th with the little amount of screen time she has is insane
last thing kaido sees in that lava lol
Ace is 9 right
yep
Are you saying bunny minks cant be threatening?

He made an innocent group of fans look like some depraved lunatics. I’m still pissed off by people who think liking a character means you’re into some weird stuff
sure i can live with this getting me cancelled
bunnies
Franky might drop even harder in the next poll
He’s also the lowest in the elbaf rankings at 30th
This chapter really hammers it home again. No way that’s for nothing
imagine if there was a recent arc he couldve had more prominence in
perhaps a science one
When is the next poll
This is why op fans are always wrong
probably after elbaf
yupp
its been like 5 years
well based on the average amount of time between every poll
it should have happened already
Have they abandoned the fans
Yeah there will be a 6-7 year long gap between polls before long
it kinda feels that way
the average amount of time between every movie has passed too
but theres been no movie announcement
they hate us, they have abandoned us
Anybody valorant??
or they are just waiting for Jump Festa (likely)
this jump festa for sure
ask in #games
we One Piece
when is jump festa again
december
oh shit fr?
99% of op fans give up before the jump festa announcement
i cannot wait to see what the villain will be for the next movie
i thought it was next year
like December 21
Wit op remake will be given a release date at the festa too btw
fuck yeah
I'm not coping I'm not
one piece fighterz too
sorry best we can do is another rpg where you play as the strawhats
6th of july
Nothing ever happens
there is simply no inbetween, simply not possible
Next game is an online tabletop
tableooooOOOOOO
oh shit its coming back??
It's about the "mass"?
basically just how much force they put into their attack
Like the amount of haki I guess, so they just decided to put all their haki into the attacks at the end of the chapter
👀 @fallen meteor
this isnt worth interpreting now tbh
i wanna wait for viz to see what the fuck mass iss
Jump Festa expectations:
- New Movie
- New Game
- New Poll
- New Remake News
- Cool Oda statement
- BM return confirmed
Likely:
- Oda statement
- More OPTCG cards
- BM return confirmed
basically
post it bro i wanna see
Bigger booty
i think it will be an evil oda statement
Harder punch
arent they all evil
One of these is not like the others
if viz says 'mass' again then sure lets start burning sugar
more or less
Ngl I feel like they're just spelling out something Loki can counter
remember when oda said "that person and that person will finally fight" and then nothing happened that matched that
yeah I dont think we getting that new game
You WILL play the 67th pirate warriors dlc and you WILL like it
tbf it took him like 3 years to get to the Vivi, Sabo and Boa one
he takes his time with them
BM return confirmed is the one that's most likely
i got jumpscared by this on steam
thigh gets it
yeah woohoo i cant wait to play as uhh s-snake
I saw this and did the speed face
w speed
s snake is canonically 6’10, why so small😂
they shouldve added pythagoras
they arent even doing PW5, like they are just stuck at PW4, what the hell is the point
makes sense since she’s depicted as a kid
like if youre gonna do more PW shit forever, atleast get to the next game already
w fart
Why S-Snake tho
No new one piece games EVER
its been half a century, what is the point
It’s literally just Boa, come on man
i hope pw5 is released in the middle of laughtale so they have to make up their own ending like they did with wano
except for mobile games
opbr 2
many such cases
True
L FART
if One Piece had an actual open world game they would make a lot of money, but that would take so long to develop
gas speeds by
It’s just a weird pick because in this case I am sure nobody really wanted that
I think anime games just might be a scam atp just get the skin of your favorite anime character in fortnite and play that
It’s the same as adding, idk, Aladdin to the game
theres no way
Of course she is pals with Doflamingo
fuck for nite
I was checking how many characters the DLC added
OH MY GODDDDD
i hope when the fortnite collab happens its for one piece live action
They recently announced s snake Bonney and cp0 lucci too
Speedbump is fartsdump
thatd be so funny
If only we had a good One Piece fighting game instead…
never
amazing language
even sparking Zero flopped, I think a Open World game would be more successful but it would take a very long time to develop
i dont really care what we get as long as i dont have to play the strawhats
fartblitz 😭
One Piece game but it plays like a fromsoft game
where u can choose what u want to be
this is happening for digimon
i can feel it in my feelers
i almost got my hopes up
this would be my most beloved game
not that 4 isn't awesome 😔
you can play the shitty elden ring mod instead 
but...shitty...
Made me think of the shitty one piece elden ring mod. Made me smile
Well, that’s the reason why most anime games use the same formula with few resources put into them.
i really just said 'butt shitty'
what am i doing man
Same braincell
okay i just read the chapter and honestly i get the impression that lucci could have handled this all so well
I just kinda wanna believe that OP will become that big to have a decent game at least once but oh well.
OP fighting game is still possible though.
flawless
Kaido lands one grab and you just immediately die
MMO OP game, lol
no thank you
they just ripped the pw4 models, stuck it onto the boss skeletons and called it a day
one piece overwatch
didnt we have this idea before
The best way to do it
ok a one piece hero shooter would go hard
Hero shooter or whatever you would call it with One Piece is a decent idea
probably
it would die in 4 months but it would be fun
as it should
the problem we had at the end was like
not many supports and tanks?
only overwatch survives 😔
It would die in like 3 weeks probably, it doesnt have the same western appeal as capeshit does most likely
I want a one piece dojo defender where you play as kuina's dad
but china loves OP
yeah in a month itd be down to around 500 people
I bet there's a Roblox game that does exactly this
it can live off china numbers alone i feel
Isn't overwatch dead?
no
not dead just less popular
Damn
The best time to get into overwatch was 9 years ago the 2nd best time is now
never settle for second best
I had no interest in overwatch 9 years ago but that was the time where people hated it way less
Elbaf rankings after 1165. I’ll include a bit more people this time because I have a couple of corrections.
1-Loki 1672
2-Monkey D Luffy 1590
3-Davy D Xebec 1391
4-Gunko 1266
5-Nico Robin 1234
6-Nami 1182
7-Scooper Gyattban 1174
8-Road 1110
9-Shakuyaku 1106
10-Saint Shepard Sommers 1086
11-Go D Usopp 1050
15-Tony Tony Chopper 858
16-Brook 854
17-Roronoa Zoro 846
18-Jinbe 843
20-Vinsmoke Sanji 750
22-Gol D Roger 738 (chapter MVP)
27-Garp 660 (chapter MVP)
44-Zeus 392
Correction: Marco has been replaced by Graham
101-Tied place between the thousand sunny, the giant fire brigade, Rangram and Polo Graham
133- last place, the bozo who I shall not name who we saw in the cover page at 8 points
i used to be good at overwatch now i am not
it sucks that the morons that went to rivals have come back to overwatch
Is Rivals dead?
there was a period where toxicity was like so rare because all the simple people were playing rivals
What do you think?
Sad that he’s in but glad it’s at last place
Why did they come back to overwatch
because its a more polished game
There’s 20 people tied for last place but law is the last of that group
In like 20 years maybe
They still updating that ps3 era game
Actually it might be ps4 I dont remember
I feel like that game could run on a ps3 tho
Wow its 5 years old
It only came out in 2020?
Ye
Well it's kind of a shit game for 2020
Its getting the Xenoverse 2 treatment
i feel PW4 came out before one piece started
Where theyre shoving content into it.
Well the first 3 came out on ps3
I thought it came out in like 2015
Thats 3 according to google
1 is 2012
And 2 was 2013
I was pretty good at OW
1 was pre timeskip
2 had a filler arc with the evil dark dials
why did you go 3 1 2 Smugu
according to google. egghead... it *gulp* ends in december
Cuz i was responding to the 2015 bit specifically cuz i was like "I think a pirate warriors came out in 2015"

<shaking> seems...so...
how did this become new bit
how did this become marin's new bit
You made the bit didnt you
holy shit the double bit cycle
What bit
32 bit floating point unsigned integer
i foresaw mailbox typing it so i changed it up
avery doesn't know 😭 
Pirate warriors 4 is spiritually a 2015 game even if it came out in 2020
4 was up to wano where every1 jumped kaido including Sabo cavendish barty and kuzan


Ngl this chapter gives more evidence for Loki being a counter to Domi Reversi
I think its the style
They never changed it and hardly updated the game to make use of more powerful hardware
yeah i agree
the double cloud split points to his df
Especially this gem
Sealed the deal for me
Loki is the most massive being going against Imu rn
"Why are giants so important"
"The mass of their weapons + their haki"

Also Garp used "curse" here
You usually can't curse the already accursed
If Viz confirms this, immunity wil basically be sealed for the arc
Chapter was good. 8/10, but Garp reasoning is still needs more explanation... How is he protecting the marines by staying? Is his protecting their reputation by staying, being good and raising future marines? Is he protecting them from being killed by the WG? I don't think its good enough yet. Still love Garp though. #OnePiece1165
he isnt ready
Dragon really crashed out this chapter
@pine scaffold @keen quiver if Rocks negated the haki of Garp and Roger does that mean he split the sky by himself?
Started threatening to execute people
Domi Loki will break Socrates like Yamato not joining the crew broke Vic
yes its extremely clear Rocks split the sky himself
hes that guy
there was no haki negation, Worstgen made that up
new image saved
Rocks just had real good defense
is it more durable than Kaidos?
No I never drop my agenda
I think so
no
Rocks was using haki to defend against attacks that was so strong they couldnt get through it
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wasgood
BB final villain
Told ya. !!
Wsg wsg
reading comprehension at an all time low recently ngl
yes, this isnt haki negation
That might be negation
Its haki clash
😭
actual definition right here btw
Lmaooo
no, its two forces of equal magnitude cancelling each other out
Arsal your intelligence supercedes google
argue with the dictionary
its not negation lol
Nah arsal have a point too
Yeah lets use Arsal's definition instead of a dictionarys
But if he canceled their haki with his haki and the sky still split
Who's haki split the sky
Rich
I mean he had to do what he had to do.
this is such a strange thing to imply, do you think the haki ceased to exist
Idk if the clash really caused the sky to split
If their haki has been canceled how tf are they splitting anything
like it disappeared???
Its the impact of the haki
It is the clash even if Xebec happened to win the clash
the negation happens via applying haki back when they clash
Rocks was the only one here
haki clashes have always been the cause of the sky splititng why would now be the exception
he literally releases it while garp/roger are down
it is the clash lol, its not Xebec alone
Because Rocks is unconventionally strong
Show the full panel socrates
I agree with arsal
I love this
to be this is just them clashing and being sent flying
and the clash splitting
This is the full panel
To me it looked like Xebec split the sky. Luffy did something similar, but he actually blew the clouds away in all directions. something similar was shown in the anime when Roger and WB clashed. idr if this was also drawn in the manga though
Its nawt
You mean the page where they clash?
Night shift is here.... soon I can get home
The sky split after he repelled them with his haki not when they clashed
Crazy glaze but maybe
it's this shit. neither wb or roger took damage here cause they cancelled each others attacks
Idk it seems like Rocks is producing the Haki to split the sky here
see to me those are all the same action
why would he just go 'aaaaaaaaaaaa' and send a second wave of haki
Almost indefinitely
all the haki involved in there is contributing to it, its nobody specifically
Because of what? 
it's one motion
no touch no dmg
Yeah so it's mostly Rocks
I feel like the Haki lines show that
He is literally the only one exuding any haki in the panels you see before the sky is split
mostly is pushing it but as you acknowledge its not him alone I guess?
Not even Imu split the sky alone, like this is silly
to me it was Rocks' doing, he overpowered them and then the sky split. but question is, does it matter?
Lowky to the panel
Xebec kinda overpowered them both too 😭
Mostly isn't pushing it considering he's portrayed as the only thing in the panel producing Haki right before the sky split
no
There literally isn't anyone exuding Haki in that moment but Rocks
this really does not matter in the slightest
Cuz imu didn’t even tried to
sky splits are inherent to clashes, its the haki coming from a fight that causes a sky to split
lots of people know mario but not as many know egghead ends in december 😭 
isobelin flag
to me this is them attacking with haki and as he is hit he haki's back, sends them flying and their clash split it
bro do yall know where the term Odas Angel even originated from😂😂
i spelled sob wrong
piratefolk
okay nerd
The same Haki that did this likely caused the sky to split
same thing basically
I would have said so, too. but it was not a equally powered clash from which one could imagine, that it splits the heavens. I also don't know whether is was just in the anime, when luffy went g5 and blew all the clouds away to reveal the full moon
yeah it's the haki to push back the top attacks
so it's the 3 clashing
Yeah they both attack Rocks, Rocks creates a Haki shockwave, sending both them and the clouds apart
that was anime only
two hakis vs demon time rocks haki = split
thank you!
yeah this is all one motion, theres no time where they stop haki-ying it up so rocks can now start his haki
The shockwave isn't a clash though I feel like Rocks could've done the shockwave by himself
i feel you guys just want to make him do it at this point, its the same motion
yall not ready for the Loki feats
Oh that reminds me
Their haki has already been canceled out by that time
i think the only reason socrates is arguing for this is so he can say loki can/will do the same somehow
so we know nothing new about how to beat regen. put mass in to overpower rocks, but he did not receive immortality, right?
yeah by his when he attacks back at their attack
i have no idea anymore
like he overpowers it and the clash splits it
You could argue the pressure of an extremely CoC haki force field pushing back two very strong CoC attacks causes the sky splitting , there is a zoom in on Roger’s fist as he holds the blade just before the haki force field
i guess rocks didnt have regen?
No immortality, just a buff
no sky split, even though he is emitting tons of haki from himself
the anime made it up
I would say so, too
Roger says the way to counter Domi Reversi is about mass. Loki is the most massive being that's fighting against the Domi Reversi-ed beings.
Garp says Domi Reversi is a curse. Loki is already basically accursed. I feel like it'd make sense if you can't curse something that's already cursed
I think Rocks did have immortality, it just wasnt anything against two extremely powerful CoC attacks
Bruh
I will have to reread the whole wano arc...god damn
He’s not at that level yet , he barely learned acoc , but as we learned there’s even greater levels to it
Arsal u real rn ,
did we see at least some indications of regen?
I don't think any Domi Reversi-ed being has regenerated at all
Extremely strong acoc did slow regen from holy knights , but is it enough to fully stop a rampaging demon CoC monster?
nope other then his tooth growing back
The giants hand is regenerated floating
It isn't regenerating it's floating
It’s still usable tho
maybe he did drink milk off-panel
That is NOT regen 😭
If the clash is what caused the sky to split the sky would've been immediately shown after contact
I am thinking theres levels to it, Imu>Gorosei>HKs>Domi Reversi
It's floating?
Like there is a gap where his arm is missing clearly , but he’s still able to use it
Bcz of domi
Yeah that isn't regeneration though
Rocks had the Domi Reversi regen, and powerful ACoC was enough to kill him. Thats my take
to me this is just oda drawing in a way the sky is the focus after they fly away
like he decided to do that angle and theres no way to show how he wanted, so it's an after clash thing
also Imu literally said it lol, undying bodies = immortality
Brogy is cooked when domi reversi is undone
he will never fight Dorry again😂
If it was regeneration, Brogy wouldn't have had a gap anyways
do immortal gorosei have similar wounds to those of Broggy? Maybe a hole in the belly?
thats not how it works though
That’s true it doesn’t seem to be exactly the same , but even if rocks started losing limbs he’d be able to use them , also he’s acoc buffed on top of domi , who knows how much that helps
oda drew it in a way that it's either their clash or DR rocks decided to just yell at the clouds which is dumb
the Gorosei still have their scars, their immortality didnt heal every wound they have received
@hot cairn decided to peep Jay’s chapter stream out of morbid curiosity.
Said that the moment with Kaido’s line about brutality being the law of his crew was sumn he didn’t like because there was no exposition for why Kaido feels that way. Said that immediately after saying the backstory that explained to us why Kaido feels that way is bad
its the same idea with Brogy
I thought Arsal was saying Rocks had the same immortality the Gorosei and HK had
Oda hides information to counter these youtubers, man
Oda is being very vague again
this regen stuff is stupid anyway
nah, I think theres levels to it
ive stopped trying to make sense of it
Every other clash depicted has been immediately after the clash
This is after Rocks haki burst
Again Garp and Rogers haki is being canceled out
Garp confirms this
Impeccable mind at work this week too
Idk , maybe there is a difference to it but you might still be mitigating death in both cases
Oh that could be cool. I thought there was only 1 level and the only thing that changes the speed is the severity of the attack
Imu>Gorosei>HKs>Domi Reversi - in terms of Regen levels
I hope Oda makes it more complex that'd be more interesting imo
Domi Reversi regen goes down to ACoC, because I think it would be too much anyways
i dont think we should be arguing this because to me it's clearly the same thing and the negation is just his own haki clashing with their haki
it's something that wont move until we see like
the anime adapt it
or oda shows again a clash in this exact condition
and it establishes the hierarchy clearly as well
In my mind I feel like the "mass" thing was paying homage to Loki
dude dont go too hard in this idea before viz says it's like soul instead of mass or something like that
I think “mass” is a weird translation of,
We have to hit him with everything we’ve got
Imu has the strongest form of it, basically unkillable. Gorosei are a step below. HKs dont die to ACoC but it slows down regen for them. Domi Reversi straight up dies to ACoC
Punch/slash harder
this feels like a perfect weird word to translate situation
That might be a stretch , gonna wait for viz eitherway

Don't say it or it'll manifest
yeah gotta wait for viz on this one
Imu is the only one truly immortal imo
For now
Anyone have the raws of that line? I’d like to read them
Roger does seem to be a bit of an expert, he talks about Haki like he really understands it lol
dude viz might translate it to assmay #piglatin
so glue
The pirate king is back
he never left
yeaa
both seem like it
he has always been here
the pirate king is leaving for another hundred chapters
it felt like two master haki graduates discussing a thesis or something
Guys how many Manga chapters in elpbaph arc?
well with Garp I imagine its part of the marine curriculum so its not surprising
but Roger stood out to me, like he had learnt it from somebody
Shanks and Garp are similar
i still can't get over Dragon in this chapter
39-40 I believe, so far
Dragon did take charge
Will someone answer this?
I did smh
they did
Thanks
Put in a pressure cooker and emerged as a better person
Dragon threatened the Marines with execution if they didn't listen to him, lmfao
I like how ever since garp has been in chains he’s been put on trial by the fans lol
says a lot for a guy who hates violence
Roger's flashback is a neeeeed
i love the spotlight Oda gives his character
no, Dragon has always hated violence
He has barely escaped the charges
Dragon only goes through with violence when it's absolutely necessary
you guys may have clowned on me for this one, but I still firmly believe it, 20 chapter Shanks flashback that also is like half Roger Flashback is COMING (in like 7 years)
Still got my eyes on him
That must be why he doesn't do anything
if you push a pacifist you get something to see
How many episodes is that tho?

Dragon is a radical extremist by textbook , and he is probably okay to get rid of all marines tbh
39-40
the anime isnt there yet but the plan is to adapt 1 chapter per episode now, so the same amount
how did you come to this conclusion, lol
this is going to be gamechanging, not ready
Ah hell no
Why not 2 chapter every episode
Dragon doesn't have anything against the Marines, he just had to get them to listen to him
he only left after ohara OR Garp only received info after Ohara
This panel compared to this panel , as well as VP himself reminding dragon there are good people in the marines
they fear the anime catching up to the manga
yeah, he knows that
What's wrong with that tho?
Maybe he forgets sometimes
no more anime then
that
Any marine that lets that behavior go by “would condone it”
Rocks already depressed
Rocks hates his life
Oda name Marco dad after the shirts he gets from the supermarket
And he probably sucks already
does this show us that dragon, as noble as his goals may be, will never reach them going this path?
why wouldn't he reach his goals?
Luffys route is the true route in this adventure with multiple endings
Dragon alone won’t be able to
He needs luffy literally
To do whatever luffy will do
The revo will fail without luffys actions
yeah, but that would still be him reaching his goals 
if the route is accompanied by executions the path may be flawed
at the end of the day it will probably be the world against Imu
Bruh
that doesn't make sense
what
Dragon does believe his and luffy’s paths someday will cross
anyday now
So he may use him for his revo ambitions
Not to say Rocks did or didn't split it himself but i had to go & look at this again, does this not also look like the sky was at very least starting to split?
Is this Joyboys knot haki?
father and son teamwork
Yes
Yea I could definitely see Joyboys haki solo splitting the sky
Yeha Joyboy's haki split the sky
If we ever get a panel of the whole monkey D family on screen that’ll be pure aura
Present or past
yeah, it would be greatness unmatched
Which either means Joyboy put literally all of his haki into the knot to do that or he was just that strong
Imo Rocks seems to have done it as well too
But Joyboy solo splitting the sky isn't unbelievable
He may have done what Roger and garp just did but into a knot
Domi Rocks mightve yeah, but it's kinda ambiguous
So couldn’t move after possibly
I'm js if Joyboy's knot has done it, its not out of the question that someone else could too
afterwards he may have died. was this maybe his last thing he ever did?
Did he already give the haki to Emeth when we see him talking to him
Imu probably did it too on Elbaph
or was it afterwards
Stop crediting Rocks for the Imu buff smh
I believe thats essentially when he gives it to him
I don’t remember
The convo seems to imply he's either about to give it to Emet or already has
because if he already gave it to him and he's still moving around then he must not have given all of his haki
legit no idea how much of a buff it is
is it like 2x, 10x, just a bit???
Hmm so not exactly clear
Probably at least 2x
I'm not gonna make the joke
Actually nvm, its clear it was already done
🤝 we wont
is it a implied joke? should i freak out
i'm really interested how the VIZ will explain the haki thing
Oh ok lol
a cognitohazard
It is a cognitohazard
I could still believe he was immobile after he did it tho , not that he died after
And then got up and gave it to emeth
He coulda done it like the day before or something
how was he killed? maybe his crew was domi reversied
Who knows
Maybe Joyboy is so tuff he can just split the sky on his own without killing himself
Yeah
Roger and Garp won’t die obviously
Well presumably vs Imu/20 kings/Gorosei
oda needs new ways of showing power
But they’ll be unable to move
we keep skyscaling
Or unconscious
Can Oda just answer powerscaling questions even if he doesnt give a shit so the convos about it can end
I don't think gorosei was around that time
that would be nice
They'll be like Luffy with the whole G4 running out of haki shit
now where's the fun in that
He doesn't want it to end
Certain questions he won’t answer
Imu doesn't seem to engage in combat himself. but then we don't know
Imu did so on God Valley tho
And in sbs
wasn't it via saturn? long distance fusion?
It’s interesting. In Luffy’s case he could still run around barring exhaustion due to fighting
Vs Kat
I mean... highly likely that Imu fought vs Joyboy, potentially Davy too, they're like Imu's #1 & #2 ops
looked like it was Imu to me, but idk
crazy that they won that confrontation then
or well i guess it isn't crazy, given they just tanked 6 of these top tiers
More like possession, like it was imu's haki and not saturn's
it's inevitable
Zoro is the one who said he’d die if Enma was allowed to draw on haki at that rate
Which is similar to what we have in this chapter
i am kinda curious how ida will react to rocks death
there is this interesting parallel to perona, who is hiding in her bed and using her projection to fight
she'll be sorry because Harald is sorry
It is & isn't crazy
uhm..
She didn't like Rocks so idk
she will probably comfort harald
harald and loki will be devastated yeah
i wonder if she will make a comment about "why do they care about rocks so much"
If Oda was a good writer
Nah Ida isn't like that
Too much icl
Ong
Brachy ngl never theorize about Loki ever again
oh you bet i will
Hajrudin wouldn't have thought twice about killing him then
i've got a new theory
I’m sure he’ll throw quite a tantrum
I do kind of wonder if Harald ripping his horns out is because of Rocks dying rather than Ida potentially dying
Ig ida will most probably die by the hands of Harald since it would parallel rocks
Holy bandwagoner
what if Loki ends up being killed at the end of this arc, just to redeem him in the eyes of the Elbaphians
garp's older than roger, correct?
Anyone that didn’t jump on the glaze train the moment the new character was introduced is a band wagoner
yeah true she a good person
feels like it doesn't have anything to do with Rocks atp
Thus being saved from meeting the same fate as Rocks and maybe Harald
Like rather than joining his friend Rocks, he basically sent him to his death & rips his horns out as a way to atone & also possibly to show Loki that he's sorry
Yeah because yall only came post-hype
lmfao
You came post hype as well
this is such a silly discussion
If u were a real one you’d have even repping Loki when we had his silhouette in thriller bark
I came pre you though
"sorry you can't like this character more than I do, since i liked them before you did"
So
I feel GOOOOOD
Anyone that became a Loki fan after egghead is a bandwagoner
No because you're a disgrace to the art Loki is
I got an interview coming up, I aced my midterms, and this chapter bangs
I mean shit, he told Harald about his family so Harald couldn’t really bring himself to stop him like that
@steel stirrup @wet heron @pine scaffold
pouring one out for the goat rn
ok?
My theory about Loki before Elbaph was that he was a rizzless fat chud cuz of the Lola flashback
But maybe Harald still blames himself or something
The only valid reaction after getting into one piece and I know they’re not even overreacting
“Ok?” Is the peak of rage lol
Muk is the only real Loki fan
brach thinks all agenda is serious
truly
Every day I wish I came up with this theory first
Supported him since he was a silhouette
And this is one of the lighter backstories, they are not prepared 😭
Idk yall just seem overly sarcastic
we are never getting a character like Xebec again
ripping his horns out is like rage quitting
Rizzless fat chud Loki?
Thank god
Yeah that
Kong: 😈
fr bruh, i have faith in joyboy
i think joyboy will move mountains
!kongcommand
You know who’s an expert on dealing with things with great mass, Hajrudin. His strength will come into play here
dammit
true
@random hinge what is the funny kong command that got added?
BB is like Xebec and Koby like Harald
Loki is basically Xebec's second coming
King of the giants, Hajrudin!
!kong
SB SB SB SB IS BACK
If Joyboy is like Xebec then there’s gonna be a group of people who just hate him
Rocks wasn’t introduced with a major L on his record already
oh did it get renamed? i thought it was a more complex command
OH WAIT
Rocks was cursed
so who said this dialogue garp or roger?
Garp
Roger
..?
Garp
The bubble points to Garp
It was Garp
I'M ADDING THIS TO THE SHEET
oh wait yeah it was Garp
Fortunately for rizzless fat chud giants we had Rodo for that!
kinda wild that garp is the one who thought of undoing Rocks' curse and not his bum crewmates
This means Garp is domi reversi'd Rocks boot level.
anyone is getting their ankles grabbed by near-prime Garp
fuck all them bums
stealing the boots midfight.
It was pretty clear to us that they were not a loyal crew
did you just call Whitebeard a "bum"
Which is at least 10x the level of young Kaido because he was less than Rocks boot level
He got pushed into the wall by Roger then thrown. Pretty downscale esque if ask you me 
But no
Cook
It’s not
literally everyone would get done like that lol
kaido was "kid in a candy store level" 'cause he just ate a df
Garp was already one of my favorites before this flashback but he keeps getting even better
Dragon is so fire bro
best part of the flashback
YOU'RE GOATED BARTSKY
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