also-manga

[frigid gulch]

[digital spear]

Is that why Oda made Marcos head a pineapple in the first place

[stone terrace]

Yea the dye alone is a no go lol

[pulsar path]

I might have to journey to find some

[stone terrace]

My kids will never eat that shit

[frigid gulch]

Marco’s fruit is a pineapple too

[rose rune]

They look nothing alike. I think he's queens dad

[digital spear]

Plottwist: Oda says no

[ashen perch]

It would be a good question because its the only way we're finding out more about this dude

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-one-piece-fan-letter-fan-letter-marineford-marineford-arc-gif-4101330079685185625

[frigid gulch]

Well it’d be cool if he expands on it

[digital spear]

Cant wait for his single vivrecard in 2 years

[royal orchid]

why did Marco start walking here is he stupid

[ionic palm]

they’re pretty common in Cantonese bakeries

[digital spear]

He wanted to give his buddies high fives while running

[frigid gulch]

The Whitebeard Pirates are just that good

[royal orchid]

surely oda wouldn't just make a character for one singular purpose and then not refer to them ever again
RIIIIIGHT

[rose rune]

He's the son of the random professor in the back

[digital spear]

Oda just erased holy knights ffom his mind

[ashen perch]

Well the HKs were all young and inexperienced here and they're all admiral level in the present, its gonna be fine

[trim lily]

the holy who

[grand flower]

relax

[digital spear]

Because of their legs I thought there was text below too

[royal orchid]

the holy ghosts at this point

[trim lily]

i can’t believe this shoujo prince knight erasure

[pulsar path]

Two straw hat parents are here

[royal orchid]

gooby

[brittle basin]

[stone terrace]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[rose rune]

Probably more

[digital spear]

[grand flower]

THE GOAT

THE GOOAAAAAT

[haughty saddle]

YESSSSSS SIRRRR

IF YOU MOTHERFUCKERS DONT TAKE THESE CIVILIANS ON BOARD, IM BLOWING EVERYONES BRAINS OUT

[royal orchid]

where's rokaya

[pulsar path]

Who

[steel stirrup]

Where all these Dragon fans come from

[haughty saddle]

BEEN HERE BABY

[rose rune]

Everyone

[wet condor]

Yeah, the moral scale in OP is a bit different than in real life. But even in real lfie I wouldn't consider Garp a bad guy. He just doesn't have entirely altrusitic or completely good and I don't view such guys as bad

[royal orchid]

3 of the 4 flashers are here

[digital spear]

Dragoat

[stone terrace]

Ngl burnt sbs questions are funny just for the reaction

[grand flower]

we been here

[ashen perch]

Goth HK >Kuzan , Garling is now Yonko Level, Maffey is stronger than every Yonko Commander, Shoujo Knight solos Rayleigh, Cow Mask Guy>Kizaru, I have seen the future and its great

[haughty saddle]

NOW LOAD UP THE CIVILIANS, SON

[brittle basin]

the end near had me in tears, RIP Rocks, you were one of the best.

[digital spear]

But its never 4 so I cant take a screenshot 😡

[pulsar path]

Y'all just bully dragon fans not to talk

[steel stirrup]

I didnt see yall fighting for yall lives like Sak has been

[royal orchid]

ping rokaya 72 times

[haughty saddle]

You either put the civilians on the boat or you get kirked

It’s that simple and plain

[grand flower]

I been saying for like three years now that Dragon is gonna defeat Imu

[ashen perch]

You're not ready

[brittle basin]

This is more or less the nail in the coffin that they already had Uranus in their possession I assume.

[grand flower]

neither are the knights

arsal we saw the elders be worse than kizaru

[royal orchid]

nah because look where dragon's pointing the gun too

[grand flower]

all the knights are admiral level my nipple

[unique lagoon]

i want to see this

[steel stirrup]

3 years huh

I haven't been here that long so I'll take your word for it

[pulsar path]

I dead ass am starting to believe in thriller bark tho

[ashen perch]

The Elbaf Knights are like the Little Garden and Whiskey Peak Baroque Works. Egghead Gorosei are like Marineford Admirals, none of it matters

[royal orchid]

idk about dragon defeating imu

[ashen perch]

Wait for them to show out in the final war

[royal orchid]

but dragon taking control of the holy land?

[digital spear]

Not really unless you wanna say Kizaru mentally nerfed

[runic dock]

New phone who dis

[steel stirrup]

This chapter solidified Blackbeard as the true main villain imo

[brittle basin]

They made sure to remind us of the West Blue.

[unique lagoon]

nah dragon will do OP socialism

[haughty saddle]

@grand flower @digital spear @hazy turret there’s a new Bepo cover page. It was an honor matching with you all.

[digital spear]

NOOOOOO

[ornate tartan]

this is definitely something that started way before this flashback

😂

[digital spear]

IT CANT END LIKE THIS

[royal orchid]

you can't leave you gotta get the screenie

[digital spear]

I DIDNT EVEN TAKE A SCREENSHOT

IZS OVER

[haughty saddle]

Just put the civilians on the boat, man

[brittle basin]

although wait. if it is Thriller Bark, then that would be evidence Uranus was never used on it. What about a buster call though?

[haughty saddle]

I’m not asking

[runic dock]

Buster call could work

[unique lagoon]

who did it better

[frigid gulch]

Holy Knight Admiral convos in senior 2025

[runic dock]

Enel

[haughty saddle]

If the 4 of us are in chat at the same time again I’ll put it back on

[frigid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[haughty saddle]

I feel like a kid wearing a Santa hat for pictures with my cousins

[unique lagoon]

thats oda telling us we wont see law ever again

[digital spear]

I am crying and shaking and vomitting right now

[royal orchid]

they done thought the king of the world was weak and not the biggest regen merchant immortal semi liquid creature in the series

[pulsar path]

I would rather it be blown up but I'm just seeing oda spin the web! Like ya said it's in west blue, majority of the rocks pirates are present here and on thriller bark, and the weird Moriah kid was spotted

[steel stirrup]

Idk how Uranus would be used rn unless they have a secret Mother Flame ir it was like one final shot in there until VP came along and Imu decided to smoke it on this occasion

[brittle basin]

Also, this is the second named attack by Roger, right? And it has his son's name in it?

[frigid gulch]

Third

[dense rapids]

Sword the protectors of the marines 🔥

[steel stirrup]

His sword

He named his son after his sword atp

[digital spear]

Roger really likes the word Ace

[runic dock]

enel confirmed return then

[frigid gulch]

It can’t be his son

[brittle basin]

i always forget sword names.

[frigid gulch]

He’s born much later

[steel stirrup]

His sword is named Ace

I believe

[ornate tartan]

3rd, his 2nd named move was Aramitama(Wild Soul)

[unique lagoon]

god enel vs poser god imu

[brittle basin]

yeah i know. i thought it was the origins for the name, but i completely forgot about his sword

[runic dock]

Garp did his job when he rescued Koby and thrust the new generation forward

[frigid gulch]

But ye Roger seems like a sword geek

[royal orchid]

roger is a neeerrrrrddd

[frigid gulch]

At least Ace

[steel stirrup]

NERRRRRRD

[brittle basin]

was that also god valley? i might've missed the named attack itself

!speedreader

[tropic nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/164971940648321024/535148418100887562/Lightspeedread.png

[runic dock]

Speaking of sword geeks I can’t wait for zoro to do kamusari

[frigid gulch]

It’s when we saw him fight Garp

[steel stirrup]

LMAOOOOO

[ornate tartan]

Vs Garp like the 2nd ch of the flashback

[digital spear]

With 3 swords so hes 3 times as strong as Roger

[brittle basin]

my alzeimer's is at work

it's always haki

[unique lagoon]

rocks roger and garp will be laying on the ground
rocks keeps using voat to talk to them
revealing info he knew but ofc we fans wont know it
more mysteries added by oda

[frigid gulch]

What did Kaido say

[royal orchid]

haki rain

[brittle basin]

[steel stirrup]

Some stay dry and others feel the pain

[runic dock]

It’s simple math

[brittle basin]

Also, Marco's dad being part of the Polo pirates is the funniest dumb shit Oda's done recently.

[royal orchid]

haki rain

[runic dock]

But since zoro likes hell it won’t be divine

It’ll be like

Escape from hell

[frigid gulch]

Also cool to see others experiencing the KOH effect

Use all your haki = can’t move

[steel stirrup]

A baby born will die before the sin

[royal orchid]

why would he escape from hell if he's the king of hell

[unique lagoon]

sorry zoro fans
its loki whos going to fight with luffy

[dense rapids]

Btw xebec isn’t dead

He’s legit regenerating after every attack

[runic dock]

It’s done to you so like you’re escaping from hell with the wound he gives

[dense rapids]

His teeth came back the next panel

[brittle basin]

wait WTF?!

[royal orchid]

gooby

[brittle basin]

how many damn DFs were at GV?

[frigid gulch]

Perona upscale

[unique lagoon]

a lot

[frozen ravine]

Huge gil Bastar upscale this chapter

[brittle basin]

that more or less confirmed God Valley is Thriller Bark

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/tay-zonday-chocolate-rain-mic-breathe-in-gif-14116904314126955256

[frail cradle]

goopy

[unique lagoon]

guys i figured it out

[steel stirrup]

Yea I'm starting to believe more and more

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/muppets-muppet-show-theater-theatre-get-off-the-stage-gif-23756594

[unique lagoon]

polo is not marcos dad
marco is polo
polo died and got reincarted like a phoenix

wtf thats such an awesome idea

[steel stirrup]

LMAOOOO

[frail cradle]

except marco was 7 during GV

[runic dock]

That would be cool af if Marco wasn’t 45

[royal orchid]

his name's still gram

[unique lagoon]

fuckkkkk

damn u oda

[brittle basin]

I didn't think too much of it. But this combined with Ganzui really seals it for me.

[unique lagoon]

ruined

[frail cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/marco-one-piece-marco-one-piece-phoenix-marco-the-phoenix-gif-17639918495635187865

Marco Polo is this guy’s full name

[steel stirrup]

Its all adding up too well

[frail cradle]

oda plz

[steel stirrup]

I thought it was Marco Gram

Or Gram Marco

[frail cradle]

no

Marco Polo

[haughty saddle]

Marco’s daddy is fine asl

[runic dock]

Ohara was deleted off a map but never actually erased , it was always rubble

[unique lagoon]

this is some kojima type naming

[steel stirrup]

What's his damn surname and what's his damn given name

[runic dock]

Dragon and vp visited the rubble

[frail cradle]

he’s a copy pasta

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-dunk-lebron-james-levronjame-gif-1038771198631298897

[rose rune]

Actually it's polo graham. Oda lied about his name and age

[haughty saddle]

So am I of my dad. We’re both fine. Two bad bitches CAN coexist.

[royal orchid]

meet the Grams

[ornate tartan]

Demon Xebec feats were actually crazy

[unique lagoon]

see thats why DF + all haki is the winner

thats joyboy

[steel stirrup]

Dear Marco...

[frigid gulch]

I do wonder if this means Reversi can be overpowered without conquerors

[royal orchid]

hakimen will do ANYTHING but get a damn special power

[ornate tartan]

Domi Reversi Xebec is almost > Lebron

[steel stirrup]

Almost?!

[frail cradle]

hakiman think they are above the law

[brittle basin]

OK, we just need a BIG haki attack, Garp!

[runic dock]

WB is gay , he avoided women all his life and ended up sticking with his first male number 1 fan and started an all boys crew and kicked whitey bay out into the grand fleet

[frail cradle]

NOBODY IS above the law

[frigid gulch]

Although we have Luffy

[unique lagoon]

joyboy out here throwing haki and debuffing 5 gorosei and making imu panic its crazy

[royal orchid]

dumbass

[steel stirrup]

DR Xebec Unanimous MVP Steph Curry

[rose rune]

I didn't know Lebron tried to murder his wife and kids

[frail cradle]

false, wb wanted shakky

[brittle basin]

Oh so we got the official answer for why Garp didn't leave. But that was kind of the answer we all assumed lol

[royal orchid]

bot tried to @ everyone in a 378.6k user server

[runic dock]

Even gay men would want shakky

She doesn’t count

[steel stirrup]

Only people who hate Xebec now are the ones who doubled down

[haughty saddle]

Xebec is Chris Benoit

[rose rune]

True. Just look at wb

[runic dock]

we have come full circle

[ornate tartan]

the entire planet economy stopped for 2 weeks after her capture

Is there any glaze in the entire series bigger then that😂

[digital spear]

Shakky stopped the ECONOMY

[rose rune]

As wb intended

[digital spear]

Insane

[brittle basin]

there is no greater upscale

[ornate tartan]

Oda should’ve at least distinguished her looks from Gloriosa, because idk what the ppl in the story are seeing man😂

[upbeat yarrow]

who knew venusjuro's archenemy was shakky

[digital spear]

Why I read this as "I will surrender to you"

[ornate tartan]

does she really look THAT much better then gloriosa to them?

[unique lagoon]

what in the hell is big news morgan doing
he should be covering this

[royal orchid]

if I say I will be muted

[rose rune]

I was looking at this for 10 seconds trying to find xebec

[runic dock]

It’s the thigh gap

[digital spear]

Shakky vs Nusjuro will be so hype

[digital spear]

Huh

[haughty saddle]

As a man who is incapable of being into Blondes, I get it

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/uta-gif-2811902962345817917

[rose rune]

Sorry

[brittle basin]

damn, Rocks didn't say anything to Roger before he died? maybe there will be dying words next chapter before cutting back to Loki and Harald? c'mon, I want Rocks to lore drop to Roger so he chases the One Piece.

[unique lagoon]

just wait imu will drop nasujuro in elbaf

[digital spear]

Thighbreaker goes to The Gap for shopping?

[royal orchid]

maybe a little lightning to discern the background there would've helped

[runic dock]

That’s exactly it

[brittle basin]

interesting. this is definitely adding fuel to "Garp creating SWORD" right? @grand flower Thoughts?

[ornate tartan]

Rocks don’t know about no damn one piece bro😂
I swear I like rocks but if this ends up happening it would be horrible

Ppl already been calling Roger a fraud all flashback this would be the nail in the coffin

[runic dock]

I also feel he may have been considering dragon too since dragon was still a marine

[rose rune]

I don't mind the gap. (This is for the brits out there 😉 )

[runic dock]

When he said that

[brittle basin]

Rocks seems to be somewhat knowledgeable about history, so I would not put this past him whatsoever

[ornate tartan]

Roger reached lodestar a year before god valley @brittle basin

he should know about it himself

[brittle basin]

this might be a detail i forgot then. ok then rocks probably won't saying anything on his deathbed

so close to a connection and more lore. I'll rewrite one piece and fix it

[ornate tartan]

he’s def gonna tell them something tho u right

[royal orchid]

have you guys seen the rise in VSBW talk

[ornate tartan]

but not about the one piece

[runic dock]

I also love the detail that garp didn’t reject Roger because OOH BAD PIRATE, but for an extremely logical reason

Man this chapter was great

[grand flower]

More evidence that Garp remaining in the Navy is a matter of what he sees as the most pragmatic thing for him to do

[frigid gulch]

Ngl man Kid woulda been screwed in a proper fight against Shanks still. Shanks conquerors defense would be insane

😭

Although if Kid bloomed

[royal orchid]

kid should've had a quicker trigger finger

[frigid gulch]

That would work

[ornate tartan]

Useless Captain Mid and his sidekick Filler is the craziest slander name😂

[runic dock]

He was destined for this fate , there was no hope with all of shanks toolset

[ornate tartan]

they really called him Filler

[runic dock]

True af

[dense rapids]

Roger and Garp using two fire attacks im noticing

Will of D is connected to the endless flame?

[digital spear]

I noticed that too

[brittle basin]

ok yeah i just double checked the dates and you're 100% correct. so do we know if Roger intended to find the One Piece but the past year worrying over Shakky prevented that?

[runic dock]

He didn’t even mention it as a joke

Just that marine line

[ornate tartan]

yeah bro that’s what’s strange, it said once they reached lodestar roger pirates started their journey from scratch, but it doesn’t seem like it rn in God Valley, unless it was just a small side quest for them

[grand flower]

Deku is cool

[rose rune]

I was yelled at in #manga for saying shakky had been enslaved for a year. No one believed me

[brittle basin]

i guess there is the chance Rocks could say something that triggers their journey towards Laugh Tale but now I'm far less confident

[grand flower]

they don't deserve you

[ornate tartan]

that’s the rage bait channel

[sly belfry]

Deserved for going into that channel

[rose rune]

But they were serious

They had to be shown the panel

[grand flower]

This is like Marineford or Enie's Lobby

[ornate tartan]

what the hell😂😂😂

[rose rune]

I'll take away your also access

[ornate tartan]

100% im w u on this one

[fallen meteor]

Can you do that

[vernal ravine]

garp is a great character

[rose rune]

...

No

[sly belfry]

Say goodbye to the mod funding

[fallen meteor]

Lmao

[fallen meteor]

Are you also a shadow admin

[sly belfry]

Maybe

[barren token]

Shakky wasn't imprisoned for a year

[rose rune]

Yeah. He's actually mushy's alt account

[runic dock]

Agree

[tulip turtle]

If I remember correctly, Roger was on Lodestar when he received the news about Shakky being kidnapped. We don’t know how much progress Roger made on Lodestar or how much he learned about its history, but I’d say he probably left the island immediately to look for Shakky, without caring about what was on Lodestar. Rocks words maybe will change that attitude of Roger.

[fallen meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/check-list-bj-novak-taking-down-notes-writing-gif-13757327

[blazing mantle]

Now we gotta wait 2 weeks

[grand flower]

Newgate is so stand-offish

[blazing mantle]

😢

[rose rune]

Tsundere

[hasty sable]

I miss Rocks

[fallen meteor]

Firm

[blazing mantle]

Bro it’s been like an hour

[barren token]

Wait what makes you think roger was on lodestar

[hasty sable]

I’ll miss him more later

[rose rune]

Nah. He wasn't himself this chapter

[blazing mantle]

Oh just normal rocks

Yeah you’re never getting him back

Sorry bud

[rose rune]

I love normal rocks

I walk on them all the time

[barren token]

Garp and roger failed to kill rocks and demon rocks is still out there today

[ornate tartan]

the roger pirates reached lodestar 39 years ago

[barren token]

He's the final boss

[fallen meteor]

• Sanjuan

[rose rune]

🥁

[tulip turtle]

It was said that Roger reached lodestar 1 year before God Valley incident

[barren token]

Hmmmm

[blazing mantle]

Sanjuan doesn’t like rocks?

[pine scaffold]

just reread 1096, this chapter aged like milk holy shit

None of these lines mean anything lol

[ornate tartan]

Zou arc was a long time ago so u probably forgot

[rose rune]

He likes all rocks

[pine scaffold]

the Kaido/Roger thing never went anywhere

[dapper tree]

thye never did

[fallen meteor]

He loves normal rocks
The metamorphic ones make his work harder

[blazing mantle]

Wait why was Kaido trying to beef with Roger

🤨

[pine scaffold]

the hell does ''decisive battle'' mean?

[dapper tree]

who wasn't

[blazing mantle]

The battle to decide it

[vernal ravine]

it was just hype lines

[pine scaffold]

TO DECIDE WHAT

[blazing mantle]

Gloriosa

[fallen meteor]

It was over shakky maybe

[barren token]

Shakky

[dapper tree]

I mean

[ornate tartan]

because roger is the strongest enemy pirate
and kaido loves battle

the only thing I can think of rn

[rose rune]

They are just aura farming

[blazing mantle]

that conflict…

[rose rune]

Saying cool shit to seem cool

[dapper tree]

and SB loves that

[stone terrace]

Roger mustve kicked kaidos ass before

[pine scaffold]

Ngl idk if Oda planned GV 🥀

[rose rune]

SB has fallen

[vernal ravine]

1 o the 2 gloriosa moments

[dapper tree]

is that possible?

[blazing mantle]

Who didn’t do that though

Kaido was like the group punching bag

[fallen meteor]

He was a kid

[pine scaffold]

This probably never happened now

due to Kaido never mentioning it again

so

its just a retcon

[fallen meteor]

Sb you are so funny

[pine scaffold]

not funny

[ornate tartan]

Loki hype train starting by the end of the year

[dapper tree]

roger was in that one panel that kaido talked bout people who were hype

[blazing mantle]

At the end of the day Rayleigh won

Good job dark king

[prisma yacht]

Are y'all ready for some aura farming shanks panels

[dapper tree]

so that's enough to say roger kicked his ass at least oncve

[ornate tartan]

esp castle incident

[blazing mantle]

He’s a genuine day 0 Loki fan

[fallen meteor]

At least a bit funny

[blazing mantle]

I can’t even hate

[dapper tree]

castle incident next chapter

[blazing mantle]

He’s never given up

[pine scaffold]

true

[rose rune]

Dug a hole I meant

[prisma yacht]

He deep down wants loki vs shanks to get offscreen

[pine scaffold]

Ngl idgaf abt the rest of this flashback now

🥀

lost interest

[barren token]

Only 383 chapters left of this flashback

[ornate tartan]

bro howw😂

[prisma yacht]

Guys is this lost reference

[ornate tartan]

this shit still gonna be nice man

[fallen meteor]

Im low key on the loki hype train because Socrates would explode if he oda made him bad on the manga and I dont like seeing people sad

[pine scaffold]

not interested in the Loki plot

[dapper tree]

we know SB, rocks is dead and gone now, you don't care

[royal orchid]

I hope loki vs shanks is a parallel to kidd vs shanks

[pine scaffold]

the Xebec stuff was more interesting

[prisma yacht]

We got more lore

[pine scaffold]

it kept me hooked

[royal orchid]

same scenery same fucking shit down to the camera angles

[prisma yacht]

Like actually

[fallen meteor]

Loki lines up a cloud punk

But shanks is faster

[rose rune]

I honestly was sufficiently suffonzified last chapter. This one read like filler to me

[grand flower]

Roger is the last man Kaido will let take the Devil Fruits

Stussy and John talk about it being the final fight because Rocks himself said this is a temporary team-up. The Rocks Pirates were formed under the pretense of making a big score eventually, and this seems like it

[prisma yacht]

It's time for his bestie to shine

[barren token]

How many chapters into this flashback are we?

[royal orchid]

loki cloud logia

[hasty sable]

Oda just made up a new story for God Valley

[grand flower]

The Rocks Pirates was never supposed to be a long-term crew @pine scaffold

[fallen meteor]

[dapper tree]

SB can't read

[ornate tartan]

@prisma yacht we gonna know shanks cooked him if pewpiece starts posting about it
he’s a shanks fan😂

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-cant-wait-impatient-anxious-eagerly-gif-15247947

Can't wait

[grand flower]

oh ok

[pine scaffold]

I dont buy the Roger one

[dapper tree]

Strussen getting the most upscaling via this flashback

[pine scaffold]

but the final fight explanation makes sense

[blazing mantle]

Bomb bomb fruit
Magnet magnet fruit
Hollow hollow fruit

[grand flower]

ima put my hands on you sb

[dapper tree]

gil baster is a funny little guy

[grand flower]

gil bastard

[blazing mantle]

Bro tekking said dragon was gonna eat his wind fruit on god valley

What happened

😢

[dapper tree]

Dragon sucks

[hasty sable]

Must come later

[fallen meteor]

The goat misses sometimes

[grand flower]

Dragon is a martial arts haki man like his daddy

[glass plume]

Dragon delivered on all fronts in this flashback

[dapper tree]

That's what happened

[glass plume]

Dragon was the highlight of the whole event for me

[ornate tartan]

nah dragon 100% has a fruit power

[blazing mantle]

It lowkey makes sense in the way he said it

[royal orchid]

I wonder if these tweets work on discord

[shell scroll]

dragon lost a baby

[hasty sable]

Can safely say I like dragon again now lol

[royal orchid]

https://fixupx.com/y5art/status/1986827269428391981?t=RmTu68zhIqH5vSNAnLsYTw&s=19

Zoro (@y5art)

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FixupX · Nov 7, 2025, 4:05 PM

[hasty sable]

This was just the start of his story

[blazing mantle]

😯

[royal orchid]

mehhh

[pine scaffold]

the sad part about Dragon is that all his fans wanted more from him

(even tho he had enough already)

People kept saying he'd use coc haki, get a fruit

[dapper tree]

Lol

[fallen meteor]

It fucks up

[pine scaffold]

none of that happened

[dapper tree]

Dragon fans are starving

[blazing mantle]

Deserved?

[dapper tree]

lol

yes

[shell scroll]

i wanna see luffys mum more t han dragon atp

[hasty sable]

He’s the normal person POV here

[fallen meteor]

Coc is for current dragon
Past dragon was learning

[glass plume]

i don't think they were fans of him, they're just ready to join the latest trend in case of anything like that happening

[pine scaffold]

Maybe

[royal orchid]

sak is having the best day of his life

[blazing mantle]

Are you also a fan of the legendary Pacafist Gunslinger

[fallen meteor]

He was just a brave dude there

[pine scaffold]

the stuff with Dragon we got was great for sure

[dapper tree]

he is a funny lil guy

[pine scaffold]

but I think some ppl expected more

[glass plume]

this fandom is far too shallow when it comes to being a "fan" of a certain character

people switch on a dime, as soon as something goes the way they don't like

[blazing mantle]

All we need is him speaking and an sbs explanation on his arms

[fallen meteor]

People expect their goats to snatch protagonism fron Luffy every chapter

[dapper tree]

last of the four armed tribe

[hasty sable]

Hey, Rocks did it

[glass plume]

and then they eventually get to see that the character delivered, they'll switch back like nothing happened and even boast about how big of a fan they are, it's quite pathetic if you ask me

[fallen meteor]

Yeah but its Rocks

Joyboy will do it too I think

[shell scroll]

rocks is different

[dapper tree]

Oda gonna just say he was born that way

[blazing mantle]

That doesn’t even make sense

L oda

[fallen meteor]

I don't expect kid on his return to have idk 20 chapters of just wustass ws

[dapper tree]

Oda will think it's funny

[junior vapor]

Dragon was pretty weak even for a 17 year old
Luffy was way stronger at his age
Is it possible that dragon isnt very strong lowkey?

[vague pollen]

dragon appreciation post

[dapper tree]

All correct

[blazing mantle]

Luffy spends all his time training in the woods though

And garp kinda trained him

[hasty sable]

He’s strong for sure

[junior vapor]

He might be a diff type of character not necessarily a fighter

[haughty saddle]

Been a Bepo fan since ‘12. Will keep being a Bepo fan irregardless of his actions, opinions, winrate, or presentation.

[blazing mantle]

Idk if he trained dragon

[dapper tree]

Dragon never went out into the woods

[hasty sable]

I don’t know if he’s going to be like Garp or Luffy

[glass plume]

i respect that

[blazing mantle]

Crazy how garp and dragon didn’t interact with each other for this entire flashback

[fallen meteor]

How to train your dragon

[hasty sable]

But he will be powerful

[junior vapor]

But he was confirmed to have coc though right

[blazing mantle]

[fallen meteor]

• garp when he became a dad

[dapper tree]

Dragon sensed garp's aura

[blazing mantle]

I wanted to talk to each other

[hasty sable]

The Dragon and Garp drama could be spicy

[haughty saddle]

Garp trained Dragon on cowboy rules. Just put the gun to their heads son, it works really well.

[blazing mantle]

Garp would rather chase another man than talk to his own son

😢

[hasty sable]

So true

[dapper tree]

The gun is mightier than the sword

[hasty sable]

Garp probably thinks about Luffy more than he does Dragon lol

[pine scaffold]

idk why but do some people actually think the Harald/Loki stuff is gonna be better than GV?

[dapper tree]

everyone does

[haughty saddle]

If you can’t punch them, threaten them with the sweet leaded release of the smoking barrel of a rifle

[glass plume]

Dragon doesn't choose violence unless absolutely necessary, unlike Luffy and Garp

[haughty saddle]

My goat

[ornate tartan]

who likes xebec semi conclusion(im sure he has a small moment left next ch)

[glass plume]

Dragon has a completely different way of solving things

[dapper tree]

Cause loki already stronger than everyone there

[glass plume]

but that doesn't mean that isn't or won't be strong, lol

[dapper tree]

it will be funny if dragon is not strong

[hasty sable]

https://tenor.com/view/sengoku-sengoku-one-piece-shocked-surprised-one-piece-gif-17263177314746693894

[dapper tree]

So I back that horse

[ornate tartan]

it also wouldn’t make sense

[glass plume]

i mean sure, but the chance of that is like 0,01% maybe

[hasty sable]

Loki can’t even beat Kid rip

[ornate tartan]

ur trolling man😂

[dapper tree]

So you are sasying there is a chance

[shell scroll]

0/10 ragebait

[hasty sable]

I am but I’m not lmao

[glass plume]

i mean there's a chance for anything, but I think it's extremely low

[dapper tree]

Loki beats that homeless man

[glass plume]

especially given how we have heard Ivankov talk about Dragon, as well as Kuma

[shell scroll]

did kid even attack shanks

[ornate tartan]

Loki actually one shots him

[haughty saddle]

He’s currently successfully blockading the Global Facist Regime’s food supply. If anyone atp says Dragon is weak or somehow not an effective player in the narrative, they’re quite literally not reading the same series as we are.

[hasty sable]

It’s funny how to say that is to get like five people thinking it’s crazy when it’s just true lol

[vernal ravine]

his conclusion by now was asking imu who he fear more which was cool

[hasty sable]

Kid is probably stronger than Loki

[vernal ravine]

but we need more pages

[tranquil blade]

Idk about all that

[dapper tree]

kid lost to shank's aura

[shell scroll]

ye and who tied up loki

[tranquil blade]

Loki is probably stronger than Kidd but I dont think the gap is very wide at all

[dapper tree]

more shanks aura

[hasty sable]

People forgetting Loki was also probably one tapped by Shanks

[tranquil blade]

"probably"

[hasty sable]

Let me change that to definitely

[dapper tree]

shanks one shot all his enemies

[hasty sable]

He was definitely destroyed by Shanks

[shell scroll]

more shanks aura needed for loki so loki > kid

[dapper tree]

If he can't he gives up

[haughty saddle]

Except Blackbeard

Points to scar

[hasty sable]

Shanks probably kills everyone except the very strongest with one hit

[dapper tree]

yeah, he gave up cause he couldn't one shot

[glass plume]

i think they're thinking about it from the powerscaling lense, which clouds their judgement of what he is actually doing, like a lot of people wanted Dragon to sacrifice his entire dream just to go on a suicide mission and search for Ginney when in reality no one knew where she was, not even Kuma had a clue.

Dragon is probably the prime Luffy we'll never see, he'll have a fruit and insanely potent haki
as well as a tactical thinker on top of that.

[dapper tree]

luffy already surpassed dragon

so

That's fine

[haughty saddle]

Eh

[ornate tartan]

why does he have an axe in this fanart😂

[haughty saddle]

On individual strength probably yeah

[hasty sable]

Luffy is stronger than Dragon I’d say yeah

[haughty saddle]

On influence probably not

[dapper tree]

people wanted it

[blazing mantle]

This did NOT happen

[hasty sable]

Luffy is in the highest tier of strength right now and I don’t think Dragon is tbh

[glass plume]

i don't think that Luffy has reached Dragon yet, in terms of strength nor power but that's purely my gut feeling on it

[hasty sable]

Dragon couldn’t defeat emperors

[blazing mantle]

Ehhhh

Actually lowkey it probably did happen

But these shanks fan arts are so funny cause where is the rest of his crew

[glass plume]

i think he could, he just doesn't focus on it as that isn't what his goal is

[upbeat yarrow]

dragon doesnt need to be stronger than luffy, he is already something luffy will never be

smart

[tranquil blade]

The crew let him 1v1

[brittle basin]

https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/1oqpd01/something_tells_me_luffy_isnt_going_to_survive/

[dapper tree]

Luffy like top 4 in the verse, dragon ain't higher

[hasty sable]

I definitely agree with the idea that Dragon is primarily a leader figure and that fighting is something he can do but it isn’t his main forte

[haughty saddle]

Blockading the GLOBAL. See that word?? Look at it for a second. No, I know, you already know what you’re gonna say, just take a second. Here it is again. -> GLOBAL <- Facist Government’s food supply. Successfully. It’s the entire world. It’s the WORLD government. He’s cutting off their food supply without having to maintain a front. That is one of, if not THE, most impressive feat of resistance to the world government done in this series to date. It just is.

[hasty sable]

He’s stronger than Sabo

[somber flare]

LOOOOL

[blazing mantle]

The moms genes didn’t even try

[somber flare]

Of fucking course Oda would name him "Marco Polo"

[brittle basin]

In hindsight, this is the least surprising thing to happen.

[royal orchid]

meet the Grams

[pine ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/one-peak-one-piece-one-piece-cry-its-so-peak-gif-13413926760013023520

[brittle basin]

Oda just drew Marco with a goatee, ez.

[royal orchid]

the Polo family reproduces via budding

[tiny oracle]

Uh is it stated he blockaded the whole WGs food supply Í assumed they just targeted specific routes

[shell scroll]

who is marco polo

[hasty sable]

https://tenor.com/view/eustass-captain-kid-vs-big-mom-charlotte-linlin-jiki-jiki-no-mi-gif-14434554415803282794

Destroys Loki btw

[dim raven]

No food its getting up to marie geoise

[somber flare]

I knew he drew that panel on the last chapter on purpose

[scenic dirge]

Shut up

[shell scroll]

thanks

[hasty sable]

Why don’t they just teleport food to the capital with demon magic

[tiny oracle]

Fuck you

[hasty sable]

Goda plot hole

[royal orchid]

abyss smells bad

[haughty saddle]

Portuguese merchant who got mad cool with the Chinese back in the day

[dapper tree]

You show up and start yelling at people, classic

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-egghead-5-elders-the-five-elders-saturn-gif-15218039944784950071

[scenic dirge]

When we playing baldurs gate bitch

[dim raven]

Going through the abyss as someone not marked probably isnt good for you

[brittle basin]

[hasty sable]

Play Skyrim

[tiny oracle]

I gotta take my leave folks

Í didn’t even know you were in on those plans Evman

[royal orchid]

he was from venice

[brittle basin]

I need next chapter now.

[tiny oracle]

But I said next semester!

[scenic dirge]

??? Wdym

[tiny oracle]

Sheesh

[blazing mantle]

Bye bye

[scenic dirge]

We’ve been asking you for months

[brittle basin]

Why did Rocks regrow his teeth inbetween panels?

[tiny oracle]

Jofts been

[hasty sable]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-kid-kid-one-piece-eustass-kid-cape-gif-8217476386374942992

[dapper tree]

he hates you and does not wanna play

[haughty saddle]

The city state of Venice doesn’t deserve my respect or recognition

[glass plume]

regeneration yk

[haughty saddle]

Portuguese are basically Italians but cooler anyway

[tiny oracle]

But I see you and understand you Evan I’m just saying next semester

[hasty sable]

Demalo Black pretending to be Kid is a peak One Piece gag ngl

[scenic dirge]

Thanks for seeing and understanding me

[brittle basin]

just like his son, Goda.

[tranquil blade]

This is foreshadowing that Kidd will be back soon

[royal orchid]

portuguese are Spanish people that decided they wanted their own beaches

[tranquil blade]

Just like when Demalo Black was pretending to be Luffy, Luffy came back to pirating

[scenic dirge]

I’m telling my Portuguese friend this

[haughty saddle]

Port Your Geese

[scenic dirge]

See his thoughts

[vernal ravine]

the davy's have the will of teeth

[royal orchid]

tell them we'll be coming to reclaim Brazilian Guyana soon

[hasty sable]

Eustass Kid comeback

[tranquil blade]

It will happen this arc if Oda isn't a hack

[hasty sable]

I can see him and Law both coming back in the middle of a Shanks vs Teach thing

[royal orchid]

oda is a hack

[tiny oracle]

I hope they develop somewhat Kid being so dead set on taking down Shanks

It could just be because of the arm thing

[scenic dirge]

Kid is definitely coming back soon after this flashback ends. John having his fruit is pretty clear nod

[tiny oracle]

But I hope there’s smth else

[brittle basin]

"i got a DF so now i will gather my army"

[tiny oracle]

Because he is just so dead set on it

[hasty sable]

Kid will get to fight Shamrock or something

[haughty saddle]

It would be funny if Kidd comes back a little bit brain broken

[glass plume]

wonder who had Law's fruit before Law

[royal orchid]

so Perona is in elbaf

[scenic dirge]

Yea

[bold sonnet]

Some doctor

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/uta-gif-2811902962345817917

[tiny oracle]

One of my thoughts was actually that Kid saw Shameock do something and mistook him for Shanks

Or Shamrock did him dirty somehow

[hasty sable]

I don’t think Kid has a grudge against Shanks. He’s just an asshole that wants to fight strong people.

[glass plume]

also i find it strange that we haven't seen the current supreme God Knight commander, maybe there wasn't one until Garling?

[tiny oracle]

Idk

[rose rune]

Shamerock

[royal orchid]

I mean I would be pretty mad if someone wrecked my ship

[scenic dirge]

I mean, I don’t think Kid had such a grudge against Shanks until Shanks kept embarrassing him lol. Kid is just so ambitious he wanted to take down all the emperors

[hasty sable]

I do think he has a grudge now lol

Just like he did after Kaido humiliated him

But we’ll see

[royal orchid]

especially if by wrecking I mean tearing a third of it out of existence

[tiny oracle]

He goes after Shanks, loses, immediately makes an alliance to go back after him, gets curb stomped (by Kaido) and then goes after him a third time

[hasty sable]

I don’t think Kid will take it on the chin

[tiny oracle]

Could be nothing

[haughty saddle]

Does Oda have the nuts to kill off Killer

[tiny oracle]

But I hope there’s a reason

And yeah Kid is definitely mad as hell over getting done like that by Shanks

[bold sonnet]

Ben took off his arm
Kid: "Curse you red haired Shanks!!!"

[hasty sable]

Shanks is going to be his target just like Law will be after Teach

[scenic dirge]

Tbf, he didn’t even know which island he was headed to right? Or that Shanks would be there. It was kind of a lucky surprise once he reached Elbaf iirc

[hasty sable]

But unlike Law there’s no way Kid is getting revenge against Shanks

So maybe he gets to fight Shamrock

[royal orchid]

blaming kaido for what jack did

[hasty sable]

We have a backup evil Shanks made just for Kid

[tiny oracle]

Í don’t think Kid gets revenge vs Shanks but Í can see BB using Kid as a diversion to kill Shanks

[royal orchid]

both are responsible

[frozen aspen]

still gets packed

[tiny oracle]

Without Kid knowing

[hasty sable]

Kid always bounces back

[digital spear]

How do you think Law will get revenge against BB do you think theyll fight again

[glass plume]

Kid doesn't bounce, he rebounds

[hasty sable]

I think he’ll not get revenge per se but he will be heavily involved since the D. is his legacy as much as it is for Luffy and Tesch

[scenic dirge]

Shanks is too important to so many other things for Kid to actually be the one to take him down obviously. But I like how shanks is kind of the representation of Kid’s undying will now lol

[dapper tree]

like he's made of rubber

[scenic dirge]

As long as Shanks is alive, Kid will keep coming back

[haughty saddle]

Bepo wants the run back. It won’t even be Law lmao

[hasty sable]

Kid on the other hand is a lot more flexible in what he can do

[ornate tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-ben-beckman-eustass-kid-gif-14137665205335390845

[hasty sable]

He’s not really tied to Shanks but he doesn’t have a concrete goal aside from fighting strong people

So he can do anything

[dapper tree]

Kid will be one of the people to fight a gorosei

Why you may ask

I can't tell you

But it'll happen

[glass plume]

God Knight is more likely

[daring talon]

Oda when writing flash backs

[hasty sable]

Kid will have a spot for him that’s just as important as Law. I just don’t know where yet.

[scenic dirge]

I just appreciate Kid’s involvement in the story because to me, all he has to be is “what if someone with the exact same willpower and ambition as Luffy didn’t have shonen mc power backing him” lol

[hasty sable]

Yeah

He’s basically Luffy without the luck

Or the morals

[dapper tree]

too weak for kid

[hasty sable]

Which honestly makes Shanks a good personal antagonist for him

[tiny oracle]

Kid definitely can’t be the one to beat him

[hasty sable]

To tell Kid why he doesn’t have the right stuff and humble him

[tiny oracle]

But Í think Kid can be used by BB to fascilitate his takedown

[hasty sable]

So Kid can grow as a person

[scenic dirge]

How so

[torn kite]

just know that in anoter life garp and roger might have been on the same crew

[tiny oracle]

Distract Shanks somehow for Bb to finish him

[hasty sable]

I can see it

[glass plume]

Shanks would probably deal with that distraction relatively easily tho

[hasty sable]

But I also don’t think Shanks is allowed to die yet

[hasty sable]

Roger crying for Rocks got me too

[tiny oracle]

Kid and Law together have proven they can be relevant in top tier fights

[stone terrace]

If oda has the balls to make kidd the most hated character ever

[glass plume]

they definitely can, they just need haki pretty much

[vague pollen]

A bit random but does anyone else miss the old one piece art style? It looked so much more serious

[hasty sable]

I think that Oda won’t make Kid a villain

[tiny oracle]

So if Kid plus Blackbeard fight Shanks I think that’d be too much

[scenic dirge]

“Who’d protect the marines?” Bruh lol. I get what he’s saying but that’s also kind of funny given the whole context

[tiny oracle]

Í mean the thing is Luffy fucks with Kid

[hasty sable]

If anything he’s more likely to have Luffy get mad about Shanks destroying him

Since Luffy sees Kid as a friend

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/excuses-files-cabinet-gif-12019483

[tiny oracle]

I don’t think Luffy has ever fucked with someone who ends up being a villain

Oh wait

Cp9

[proper geode]

How many people has Kuma repelled in the god valley flashback? I lost count

[fast pagoda]

Just to be clear

[proper geode]

Like..

[dapper tree]

They are in that prey area of stronger than every commander but probs not above the admirals

[fast pagoda]

This is Figarland Garling:

[dapper tree]

like 4

[fast pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/saint-figarland-garling-anyone-who-defends-scum-is-lower-than-the-scum-they-protect-one-piece-saint-garling-one-piece-the-figarland-family-saint-figarland-garling-supreme-commander-of-the-holy-knights-gif-12876254325014018829

[sly belfry]

Atleast 5

[fast pagoda]

This is his uncle Figarland Onion:

https://tenor.com/view/garling-garling-one-piece-figarland-garling-one-piece-god-valley-gif-6779252170843509990

[steel stirrup]

You

Fucking

FRAUD

[sly belfry]

I win i got the higher number

[steel stirrup]

ALL THAT HYPE

[tranquil blade]

About 6 or 7 so far

[fast pagoda]

Onion is NOT Garling

[steel stirrup]

ALL THAT BUILD UP

FOR WHAT

[fast pagoda]

He is a fraud that died to Rocks in God Valley

[dapper tree]

your fault for expecting more

[steel stirrup]

TO GET LOW DIFFED WITH AN ENTIRE DEMON ARMY AS BACKUP

[hasty sable]

Still killed the most civilians

[steel stirrup]

LMAOOOO

[dapper tree]

He was always a fruad

[brittle basin]

so we transition to Harald and Loki next chapter?

[dapper tree]

yes

[steel stirrup]

Hopefully

[dapper tree]

castle incident

let's go

[hasty sable]

Garling will be stronger with demon powers until he gets his ass kicked then too

[prisma idol]

I hope so

[steel stirrup]

Can we see this old nigga die already

That was the entire reason we started this flashback

[hasty sable]

Shamrock badmouthing his dad would be funny

[proper geode]

There’s a chance next chapter is still gonna be god valley, like aftermath or closing events for the flashback

[torn kite]

so how many chapters are left until the flashback is over

[scenic dirge]

Godvalley Garling kinda let me down 🙁

[brittle basin]

i'm guessing the flashback has two more chapters. We transition next chapter and finish it the chapter after. Though Oda maybe conclude it all next chapter if he wanted.

[dapper tree]

as he should have

[trim lily]

i don’t think there’ll be that much, mostly reactions and transitioning into harald’s pov

[brittle basin]

Grandpa Garling won't.

[tranquil blade]

There's 24 years between God Valley and Harald's death so it depends on if anything important happened in that time

[prisma idol]

You mean the god valley section right?

[dapper tree]

he was not gonna comepte with anyone from the rocks crew

[proper geode]

Yeah god valley flashback will probably have 2-3 more chapters before we revert to Elbaf

[brittle basin]

everything, including Loki and Harald.

[frozen aspen]

I deadass thoufghe'd go 1 vs 1 against WB

[hasty sable]

Garling the leader of the Celestial Dragons’ Tobi Roppo lost a fight? Color me shocked.

[frozen aspen]

😭

[prisma idol]

Because there is still a lot of time between God valley and Heralds death

[tranquil blade]

Garling < Streusen?

[trim lily]

i’d say we have 3-4 more chaps of harald and loki’s pov

[proper geode]

Like how roger ended up finding shanks in god valley vividly shown, stuff like that

[dapper tree]

Naw, Streusen clears

0 injuries by end of god valley

[prisma idol]

Plus I think we are getting at least a little bit of the after of the Castle incident

[glass plume]

it would be cool if Oda pivoted to Dragon's POV now, and we see his departure from the Marines and him talking with Garp about leaving

[scenic dirge]

I love how the tobi roppo have become the gold standard for “3rd string strength characters within an organization”

[prisma idol]

I do believe we leave the flashback by the end of the year at least

[hasty sable]

Jobi Roppo innit

[tiny oracle]

Streussen is easily above any Yonko commander

[brittle basin]

this is for sure the longest flashback in the series, right?

[tiny oracle]

Peasily even

Might be

[brittle basin]

God Valley will be an entire volume or more

[dapper tree]

They were just all like weak, EVEN IN JUST THE ARC

[hasty sable]

Is this longer than Oden

[dapper tree]

i DID

[tranquil blade]

Yes

or it will be soon

[sly belfry]

Not yet i think, oden was 14

[dapper tree]

I didn't mean the all caps

[tiny oracle]

The tobiroppo were pretty strong when introduced tbh

[olive sigil]

How many chapters left?

[dapper tree]

My apologies don't ban me

[prisma idol]

I give about 4

[olive sigil]

In the year?

[prisma idol]

Oh no for the flashback

[proper geode]

Is the whole god valley flashback considered as part of the elbaf arc? Or how does it work with big flashbacks like these inserted in an arc

[tiny oracle]

Í remember Page one fighting Sanji and Sanji didn’t get to damage him at all until he used flames iirc

[hasty sable]

Tobi Roppo are relatively strong but they exist for mid-tier straw hats to destroy. Much like the Holy Knights lol.

[tiny oracle]

And page one is supposed to be the weakest tobiroppo

[hasty sable]

All they need is to figure out a haki workaround

[prisma idol]

There are like 5-6 more this year

[brittle basin]

I'm ready for more Imu/Gunko and to see Loki in action. God Valley was great, but I'm ready. but I am hoping for just a bit more lore about Imu via Harald's death

[hasty sable]

It’s anime Sanji that didn’t hurt him iirc

In the manga I thought it was clear that Sanji destroyed Page One

Plus Queen is way stronger

[tiny oracle]

I didn’t watch the anime my impression reading the manga was that Sanji didn’t damage page one in their udon fight until he used his fire

[dapper tree]

Yeah, page 1 really couldn't do anything to sanji

[tiny oracle]

And yes Queen is way stronger

Sanji jumped power levels in Wano

[olive sigil]

I’ve said this every week but I think it will be 5-6 chapters from here for the flashback. New year back to present

[prisma idol]

All of God Valley and not single bit if the shoujo prince

[olive sigil]

Who?

[prisma idol]

Then again we didn't get much of the Knights either

[glass plume]

or the Skull man

https://tenor.com/view/garling-garling-one-piece-figarland-garling-one-piece-god-valley-gif-9750014040259174727

[torn kite]

ulti and page one were raised by kaido so it makes sense for them to be really strong

[olive sigil]

Oh the purple twink?

[fossil crow]

I got a theory from the internet, that says imu have the power to manipulate others and use their body to fight or boost their power or something, imu himself can't do much

[brittle basin]

imu can summon a shotgun and blow Broggy's hand off

[glass plume]

we saw Imu be at God Valley tho

i don't think they took over Saturn, when they talked to Rocks

i think that was Imu

[brittle basin]

i'm confident imu can fight

[sly belfry]

Imu pulled a glock ans blew dorrys arm odf

[formal wagon]

gurt: yo
egghead: ends december

[dapper tree]

strong but all the flying 6 were weaker than the commanders minus maybe drake

[formal wagon]

like if youaggreeee

[fossil crow]

He was not himself, he was in saturn body

[brittle basin]

[glass plume]

i think he was himself

[steel stirrup]

This flashback just confirms that the real villain is Blackbeard

[brittle basin]

Was it Imu who attacked Sabo with the tail? Or have we concluded that was Gunko?

[glass plume]

it points even more to Imu tbh

Imu is the reason for why all of this is going down

[tranquil blade]

It was probably Imu

[glass plume]

Imu is the reason for why Davy Jones lost in the first place, the reason for their promise

[formal wagon]

it was probably luffy

[tiny oracle]

Like these attacks don’t look like they really damaged him anymore than Luffy damaged Kaido with normal armament haki

[glass plume]

Imu connects back to all the tragedies which are out there

[brittle basin]

But even if Imu needs a body to fight, it won't mean much, Imu is still quite powerful using someone's body.

[tranquil blade]

but I guess it could be Gunko

[brittle basin]

[glass plume]

not to mention their haki, which seems to be on par or greater than Joyboy

[dapper tree]

Page 1 looks like his ass is getting hurt

[tiny oracle]

Sanji then used his raid suit and did a dj combo and took him out iirc

[brittle basin]

yeah Imu's haki covered all of Elbaf and beyond?

[glass plume]

all of Elbaph for sure

don't know about beyond tho

[tiny oracle]

He doesn’t look like he’s getting hurt anymore than Kaido got hurt just a few chapters prior

He gets thrown around and then shrugs it off without coughing up any blood

Then for the final attack we see him yell in pain

[fossil crow]

Well, we already know this because the first time rocks faced imu, imu let him go easily, why?

[glass plume]

Imu saw him as a nobody back then probably

[tulip turtle]

because he didn't even care about bro until he mentioned he was davy jones follower

[brittle basin]

we just don't know why. could be arrogance for all i know.

[glass plume]

also, it seems to me that it was Xebec running from Imu

as Xebec realized that he couldn't do much in that instance

[brittle basin]

but it wouldn't matter, imu could've just controlled anyone of the Gorosei or Gunko in Marijoa and attacked if they wanted. unless the domi reversi only works in your homeland theory is true.

[fossil crow]

But no one was able to enter that room and return alive, rocks was the only exception

[dapper tree]

He didn't care about rocks

[glass plume]

i mean Sabo also saw Imu

it seems like it's not as strict as we thought

[fossil crow]

There is a big hint there about imu power

[sly belfry]

Wapol upscale

[brittle basin]

the best we have at the moment is Imu was not bothered by Rocks, saw them as a bug for all I know.

[tulip turtle]

Ig imu was going to kill rocks but that davy jones follower mention shook imu and rocks got time to escape

[glass plume]

yeah, Imu didn't seem bothered at all by the surprise visit

[brittle basin]

But it's possible Imu could've just domi reverse'd someone at Marijoa to attack Rocks

[fossil crow]

Rocks reached there after beating all the guards, so there was no one available for imu to manipulate them

[glass plume]

as far as we know Xebec only beat a admiral and then kidnapped 5 kings

[fossil crow]

Maybe that was the case

[glass plume]

i think the God Knights and Gorosei were there, somewhere

[tulip turtle]

I doubt if rocks defeated any gorosei or holy knight members before entering the flower chamber

[rose rune]

Luffy will make a giant straw and drink Imu, letting him forever regenerate in his stomach

[glass plume]

Oda would've mentioned it for sure

[fossil crow]

We know that rocks easily beat holy knights with any efforts

[brittle basin]

Imu can control Gunko all the way from Marijoa, so it's possible they could've grabbed anyone at Marijoa. I also assume Imu has haki in and of themselves without a puppet to defend against attacks from Rocks until the puppet arrives if that's the way their powers work. But if Imu can only attack using a puppet, that's also fine.

[glass plume]

maybe Imu let Xebec escape, as he knew that Xebec would eventually lead to the hiding place of the Davy clan?

[grand flower]

Kaido didn't react like that second page till Luffy learned advanced arms

[pine scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/kidd-kid-kidd-one-piece-eustass-kid-eustass-kidd-gif-26741726

[tulip turtle]

I don't think so, imu has a form of himself we have seen already

[pine scaffold]

I miss Kid

[tulip turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-imu-the-king-of-the-empty-throne-one-piece-imu-vs-sabo-one-piece-imu-monster-form-one-piece-imu-transforming-into-a-monster-one-piece-the-holy-land-raid-gif-12453114782379017378

[brittle basin]

that would suggest prophecy right?

[tiny oracle]

Luffy learning to use arms damaging Kaido was signified with Kaido coughing up some blood whenever Luffy started punching his face

Before then he just got tossed around a bunch

[brittle basin]

This is a good reminder too

[trim lily]

if haki is supposed to be connected to your willpower then shouldn’t rocks have had like fairly weak haki while domi reversed

especially since he seemed to retain at least a bit of his own will

[tiny oracle]

Ig that was Imus haki probably

[glass plume]

i thought it more like Imu thinking the ant would lead back to their ant nest

[fossil crow]

I suppose so, but there are also some hints about his power,

[tiny oracle]

He is literally being subjugated by Imus will

[grand flower]

This is still more than that

[glass plume]

i assume that Imu can take the form of the winged thing on the mural

both the one on top of the tree as well as the one on the far left

[trim lily]

i guess but then that implies imu is protecting rocks with it

which feels weird

[brittle basin]

perhaps imu can control the haki of the person they've domi reversi'd

[trim lily]

i hate having to think about haki

[grand flower]

I would assume so since he subjugates their will

[glass plume]

Imu's haki probably overwhelms the being who is possessed, so it's like Imu's haki and the persons haki

[brittle basin]

yeah this is a good way of wording it

[tulip turtle]

Rocks became stronger after getting domi reversi'd by Imu resulting in his haki getting double stronger

[fossil crow]

And rocks haki is also very powerful, maybe stronger than imu

[glass plume]

definitely not

Xebec was struggling against Imu, before he was Domi Reversid

let alone, all of them were struggling

[trim lily]

it seems like the counter to regen really is just hit them harder with acoc

goda

[tiny oracle]

To me this doesn’t look any more damaging than this

There’s also the fact that Page one was more intrigued and didn’t seem worn at all, and won the subsequent clash. Problem being page 1 couldn’t damage Sanji either and Sanji obliterated him after

[tulip turtle]

I believe rocks didn't get regen ability

[brittle basin]

all of the fighters who attacked Saturn/Imu wasn't enough. granted only one was truly in their prime, but let's be honest: the others were quite strong, otherwise Rocks at his peak would not have wanted them

[tulip turtle]

just stronger body

[trim lily]

don’t all the domi reversi people do

[brittle basin]

but Joy Boy's haki alone was enough to make Imu sweat

[trim lily]

imu blesses them with the abyss or whatever

[frail cradle]

so technically imu can possess shanks for YEARS until he lost his arm

[glass plume]

i think that's more from the pure shock tho

but i suppose it could be from fear as well, given what Xebec said

[frail cradle]

shanks is definitely a rat

[fossil crow]

Because imu kept regenerating

[glass plume]

that's still a struggle then

and then when Imu got their hands on Xebec, it looked like Xebec was almost paralyzed

[ashen perch]

I am sure Rocks did yea, he just didnt regenerate supposedly because of ACoC

[tulip turtle]

Ig for regen ability one needs to pass through the pentagram imu creates, but in rocks case he didn't make any pentagram for him.

Supporting evidence = Rocks killed all his davy clan members because they were domi reversi'd in the same way rocks was.

[prisma idol]

Oda really decided the answer was just even more Haki

[ashen perch]

LOL

[glass plume]

i'm sure the VIZ explanation will be different

[ashen perch]

well theres gonna be a lot of Domi Reversi'd people in Elbaf, I am sure theres gonna be more to it

[trim lily]

surely

[tiny oracle]

Most interesting haki based combat

[leaden rivet]

ArsalWise

[tiny oracle]

Haki is such a lame power system man

[leaden rivet]

Was this the fight you imagined

[tiny oracle]

Almost zero skill expression

Aside from Katakuri

[trim lily]

only 4 people on elbaf can actually fight here

[ashen perch]

It was the chapter long fight I had expected yes

[stone terrace]

Yeah i wish roger flexed future sight

[prisma idol]

By this logic tho wtf level haki do you have to have to hurt Imu

[leaden rivet]

It’s always haki

[trim lily]

joyboy level

[tranquil blade]

It could explain why we dont see Garling get back up for a while, while Sommers was only down for a minute from Gaban. It's just because Rocks has stronger CoC haki

[stone terrace]

Did some unique shit that only the king of the pirates could do

[leaden rivet]

Big strong Nika haki

[glass plume]

i was expecting more flashy attacks from Roger and Garp ngl

[ashen perch]

I am not gonna lie to you Illya though, while it was what I expected, I did honestly want more

[fossil crow]

But I can say this for sure stawhats gonna struggle alot to deal with imu, only with shanks they can somehow manage I think

[glass plume]

Roger just swung his sword and Garp just punched, I thought there would be something more

[tiny oracle]

Why does Oda even choose to do battle shounen

[prisma idol]

You're telling me Joyboy's haki was on the level of Garp Roger and 4 of the Rocks pirates combined

And then shanks was compared to that level haki

[trim lily]

i guess so

[leaden rivet]

How can Garp really get any flashier lol

[trim lily]

shanks w

[prisma idol]

Shanks upscale

[leaden rivet]

He’s strong punch personified

[glass plume]

and Xebec also just swung his sword, lol

[azure wasp]

What did you want

[stone terrace]

Well we're stuck with the format lol

[trim lily]

honestly shanks should just beat imu

[stone terrace]

OP falls apart otherwise this aint game of thrones

[ashen perch]

I was expecting a chapter, but I was kinda hoping for more than a chapter

[rose rune]

Give the man a scooby snack

[azure wasp]

Almost like he's a swordsman

[tranquil blade]

because half the people reading it now wouldnt be if he didnt

[tiny oracle]

There was one interesting panel

[tulip turtle]

It was literally said Joyboy haki had no hostility which means that the giants who said shanks is comparable to that haki didn't even felt it...

[tiny oracle]

Where Garp swung Rocks around

[glass plume]

just something different from the usual, like this is cool and all but i expected something diverse to seperate their fighting styles from the other haki fighters we've seen

[tiny oracle]

That’s the only choreography in the fight

[glass plume]

oh yeah the one with Garp throwing Xebec, lol

that was badass

and Roger struck him into the mountain

[prisma idol]

What

[tiny oracle]

I’ll say this does make me appreciate Kaido vs everyone

[ashen perch]

wdym what

[tiny oracle]

That felt like choreography

[leaden rivet]

Haki man vs haki man fights are kinda mid

[tiny oracle]

Luffy grabbing Kaido and swinging him about

[leaden rivet]

Need a devil fruit thrown into the equation

[tiny oracle]

And what not

[dense rapids]

Someone had Absalom fruit on god valley

We just can’t see them

[ashen perch]

I thought the action was good personally and about what I expected, I was just hoping to have my expecations surpassed

[glass plume]

i am inclined to agree, i definitely miss the flavor which the devil fruit brings into the fights

[tranquil blade]

All of Oda's greatest creations were made 20 years ago

[frail cradle]

1. oda is old
2. story needs to be finished
3. anime exists, they will fix it there

[tiny oracle]

This is why I liked Big Moms last fight

Fun devil fruit attacks look really cool

[ashen perch]

also brachy ngl

[tiny oracle]

Even if she didn’t hit any of them

[stone terrace]

The good news is the last relevant hakiman alive is shanks

[frail cradle]

ace vs smoker in alabasta

[stone terrace]

Not counting garp who is currently a popsicle

[ashen perch]

What flashier attacks were you expecting from this punch sword fight lol

[leaden rivet]

That begs the question how is Blackbeard supposed to fight the holy knights or gorosei without the acoc level needed

[dense rapids]

“Haki man”