also-manga

[final trench]

We wont see rocks on the big screen till 2027

[rich hornet]

VC flashback about to take a whole year of publication

[pulsar path]

They already said its going to stick to one chapter an episode

[unique lagoon]

Anime better not f up the WB block cuz that was amazing

[iron oriole]

I lie, its more like 3 chapters to beat it

[unique lagoon]

Heh I only need an arm for this demon sword

[pulsar path]

BB and Mihawk

[iron oriole]

Oden was 14? Iirc
Current is at 11 & like 9 pages

[unique lagoon]

That's starting with herald ye?

[iron oriole]

Starting from the beginning yeah

[hot cairn]

almost, it’s been 12 chapters and Oden is 15

[prisma yacht]

What's the oden fb

[pulsar path]

Flashback

[hot cairn]

gonna be a whole arc

[prisma yacht]

Oh

[ashen perch]

man I have watched this Shamrock PV like 10 time already

do we think he returns to Elbaf?

[urban lodge]

Nah

[hot cairn]

nope

[ashen perch]

I feel like he has to meet Luffy before Luffy meets Shanks atleast, like Oda cant miss that opportunity

[iron oriole]

I thought he might ever since he left but idk, i don't think its needed anymore

[hot cairn]

do you like his voice?

[ashen perch]

its incredible

[hot cairn]

it can happen after

[rich hornet]

Sadly no

[urban lodge]

He's gonna aura farm against whoever is invading Mariejois

[ashen perch]

yeah but maybe after its resolved...

[iron oriole]

Kenjiro Tsuda is an S tier VA for Shamrock ngl

[ashen perch]

eh I dont know

Oda wont miss the chance for the drama from that scene too

[unique lagoon]

[rich hornet]

Gunkimu to shamrock is a deescalation. We have our big bad already

[hot cairn]

there can still be drama if it’s after

Luffy already knows there’s someone that looks like Shanks that visited Elbaph

[iron oriole]

Would be interesting if we get BB vs Shanks before Luffy meets Shanks again & hears that Shanks was defeated, refuses to believe it & then runs into Shamrock but thinks its Shanks & is like "i knew that BB would never defeat you" or something

[ashen perch]

no because Luffy will have seen Shanks already, it works best if he thinks its the first time he is meeting Shanks since East Blue

[hot cairn]

yeah and Imu isnt leaving like some people think

[ashen perch]

it just doesnt hit the same

[prisma yacht]

Really want shamrock to do something cool and aura farm

[hot cairn]

but Luffy already knows there’s a Shanks look alike

[ashen perch]

no he doesnt

[hot cairn]

yes he does

[ashen perch]

it wasnt clear to him that it wasnt Shanks right?

[rich hornet]

Even if he does put 2 and 2 together, he can stil have a reaction from seeing sham

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-smirk-gif-1501673502766173669

[prisma yacht]

Pretty sure he wld know it's not shanks

[final trench]

#nextarc 🤫

[pulsar path]

What's y'all going to do when shamrock summons the blue eyes white dragon

[hot cairn]

yes he does

[blazing mantle]

Aside from buggy

[ashen perch]

I remember that, I am saying its still not clear to him

[hot cairn]

did you not read him talking about Shanks having a brother…? Even if it’s not clear to him he can still know it’s Shamrock when he meets a scarless Shanks

[hot cairn]

this too

[ashen perch]

eh, he then questions that he has never heard of Shanks having a brother though

[hot cairn]

so?

[pulsar path]

He's definitely going to ask shanks if he's his twin or not when he meets him. What if shanks lies and says he is shamrock just so Luffy will go all out

But wait missing arm 😞

[iron oriole]

Luffy agrees that the Giants would know if its Shanks or not, therefore comes to the conclusion that the person must have looked just like him

[ashen perch]

idk, Its gonna be different when he actually sees Shamrock for himself I think

I can't see him not have a strong reaction to it

[iron oriole]

He can still be caught out by meeting Shamrocks, Luffy is an idiot after all but he does know theres someone out there that looks just like Shanks

[pulsar path]

I wonder how strong sham is like is he shanks level or is he tru fraud

[ornate tartan]

he’s strong probably comparable to shanks

i doubt he will be a fraud

[ashen perch]

this is a guy who has notoriously been bad at telling people apart, like Gangster Gastino told him that he's not Ceasar and he actually believed it for a second back in WCI

[dawn gazelle]

i wonder who was the strongest swordsman during the Rocks era, i mean before Mihawk

[ashen perch]

feel like its gonna be the same with Shamrock, but we will see

[hot cairn]

I think he’s as strong as Shanks

[pulsar path]

It almost seems like there were to many swordmen at the time

[iron oriole]

If Luffy does run into Shamrock, i feel he should see him from his right side so that the scar & missing arm is hidden

[prisma yacht]

Pls I don't want him to be a fraud

[pulsar path]

I can see it but also if you break it down he really shouldn't be

[prisma yacht]

[hot cairn]

why?

[pulsar path]

Because shanks has been fighting at sea his whole life

Shamrock was a CD

[ornate tartan]

Shanks probably has stronger Haki

[pulsar path]

And Garland is kinda meh

[ornate tartan]

Shamrock has more Hax

[rich hornet]

Shanks learned under Roger. Sham has hax and a second arm

[pulsar path]

Like yeah he was fighting rocks

[distant vine]

I could see Oda doing either with Luffy and Shamrock tbh

[pulsar path]

He was not by him self

[ashen perch]

I think Garling losing to Rocks is extremely irrelevant to his current level of strength

[ornate tartan]

Devil Fruit Sword is a cool concept

[distant vine]

Not the first...

[pulsar path]

Yeah but he was shanks and shamrocks age

[frozen aspen]

garling without regen wouldget one shot by any top tier

[ashen perch]

we dont know this at all lol

[frozen aspen]

I'm not commenting on Shamrock until we see him fight fr

[prisma yacht]

He lost his aura tho now it's just him against his fraud allegations

[ashen perch]

Sommers and Garling seemed the same age in GV and Sommers still retains his hair color, so he certainly wasnt in his late 30s back then.

[frozen aspen]

everything said about his skills at this point is just pure speculation lol

[ornate tartan]

spandam is too ass for his to even matter😂

[pulsar path]

We know their age is relatively similar

[ashen perch]

no he didnt

[pulsar path]

Since garland does age

[ashen perch]

we really dont though

[pulsar path]

He looks about 50-55

[distant vine]

Chill on Funkfreed

[dawn gazelle]

but there wasnt an individual who had this title during that time, i wonder why is it cause Mihawk is assumed to be the strongest casue of the Black Blade?

[ashen perch]

we have 0 clue about Garling's age, he could be 20 in GV and 58 now

[pulsar path]

Idek we don't even. Really see swordmen all that often any more it's weird

[prisma yacht]

[pulsar path]

Unless Mihawk killed them all

[frozen aspen]

who???

[pulsar path]

Garland

Probably close to 60

[ashen perch]

Sommers is a good reference point for this, I think Sommers is around that age based on his appearance

[frozen aspen]

I doubt he was that young in GV personally... even Kaido was older

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/hand-on-shoulder-akakichi-no-eleven-everything-will-be-ok-my-brother-in-christ-we're-gonna-beat-you-gif-16692013677699419935

[proud pivot]

garling is like 70 rn

[frozen aspen]

most likely

[pulsar path]

He was probably the same age as shanks and sham are now thab

[ashen perch]

only by a year

I mean Garling and Kaido can be the same age yeah

by 20 I just mean early 20s

[pulsar path]

Garland deff Look older than kaido

[frozen aspen]

still don't think so

[iron oriole]

I hope we get WB vs Garling, even if just a couple pages

[frozen aspen]

U want to see him get fodderizd again?

[ornate tartan]

https://x.com/muginokaizoku/status/1985347765837160520?s=46

DEMON LEG (@muginokaizoku)

Wait we all knew this right?

X · Nov 3, 2025, 2:06 PM

[pulsar path]

Well good match up for dragon

[iron oriole]

I want to see what the convo with Shanks was really about

[ornate tartan]

the roger mustache finding shanks was fanmade??

[pulsar path]

People really don't lol

[proud pivot]

Garling looks visibly older than kaido, no way he is 58

[pulsar path]

But they did make this scene in film red ir

[potent pier]

Right now it's 11:44am over here. I just wonder when the next hint drop would be

[ashen perch]

I dont see why Garling would be that old at all, it makes more sense for him to be in his 50s-60 at best

[frozen aspen]

I bet it was roger. I really doubt he meant Garling...

[pulsar path]

No it showed up in film red

[ashen perch]

Garling is in the same age group as Akainu, Dragon, Fujitora, Kizaru, and Kaido imo

[frozen aspen]

no way

a decade older at the very least

[ashen perch]

why

[proud pivot]

Garling was in his late 20s or 30 at gv

[frozen aspen]

Garling was in GV 3 years ago

[proud pivot]

probably

[ashen perch]

so were Dragon and Kaido

[frozen aspen]

I'm having a hard time thinking the WG would send a teeneager to go negotiate with the King of GV

[ashen perch]

they didnt send him

[barren token]

hey guys what did we think of the chapter?

[urban lodge]

They didn't send anyone I'm pretty sure, he just went himself

[proud pivot]

8/10

[ashen perch]

he was there on his own, he said it was an act of fate that led him to find the Davy Clan in GV

[iron oriole]

Why would Shanks' face do that when Garling exists?

[frozen aspen]

either way he traveled there

[ashen perch]

its just a west blue island

[pulsar path]

Tbh I think Roger but

But tbh retconn

[frozen aspen]

Garling probably wasn't even a concept back then

[ashen perch]

anyone could travel there I am sure, Garling was probably just on a vacation or something and he just met the mother of his children there

[proud pivot]

why is he talking about akainu

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-meme-akainu-sakazuki-papazuki-gif-14571279860725901516

[frozen aspen]

If its him oda is just retconning again

[somber flare]

It’s obviously Roger

[native seal]

oda robbed us by not having luffy meet shamrock

[frozen aspen]

I have seen AI slop that's better than this

[native seal]

he would glaze shamrock like speed glazed fake ronaldo

[ashen perch]

Garling was probably a concept back then, why the hell would WB be so vague if it was about Roger

[native seal]

that clip is hilarious

[ashen perch]

he can just say Roger yknow, it wouldnt have killed him

[iron oriole]

Fr

[frozen aspen]

i think Luffy would be 50/50 either he doesn't realize that's Shanks and acts like an idiot or he immediately realizes its not shanks and gets upset at the copycat

[native seal]

both sound like luffy yeah

[stone terrace]

How dumb does luffy need to be for that plot thread basically

[hot cairn]

twas pretty good

[ashen perch]

I think he wont realize its Shamrock and it leads to a big dramatic scene even

[frozen aspen]

u seem to forget this happened a cpl of times already

[pine ridge]

I think luffy wouldn't even notice that shamrock looks like shanks until someone mentions it

[native seal]

now i can read shamrock's dialogues in kenjiro tsuda's voice

[ashen perch]

Luffy should go in for a hug and get punched by the hand that Shanks is not supposed to have

[frozen aspen]

he saw reiju and was like sanji???

and the rest were like are u stupid

[proud pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/shock-shocker-shocked-black-guy-gif-27526370

[ashen perch]

I can picture it

"But Shanks, what about your arm"

a callback to chapter 1...

[hot cairn]

blame Oda

[ashen perch]

also Shamrock should lean into it, that would be funnier

[frozen aspen]

u know what would also be funny is buggy thinking its shanks and yelling at him

[native seal]

https://vxtwitter.com/sigmarshanks/status/1883645181809025196

Sigmar 🔴 (@sigmarshanks)

#ONEPIECE1138
Luffy when he sees Shamrock

▶ Play video

vxTwitter / fixvx · Jan 26, 2025, 10:36 PM

[pine ridge]

"you took everything from me"
"I dont even know who you are"

[frozen aspen]

Shamrock being absolutely stunned at how ridiculous this is getting

Him thinking he doesn't even look like shanks all that much, how stupid are these people???

[native seal]

man i want to believe shamrock is redeemable but what would we do with 2 shanks

[frozen aspen]

he can redeem himself by dying

[ashen perch]

he will get redeemed but we wont have 2 shanks

we will only have Shamrock

[hot cairn]

LOL

[native seal]

im down for this

[frozen aspen]

He should loose a leg, so that shanks can make fun of him

[native seal]

going out as a hero

[hot cairn]

Shanks dying theories are so dead

[frozen aspen]

[ashen perch]

one of them is dying

[iron oriole]

BB will kill Shanks

[frozen aspen]

With figarland appearing they did die

[prisma yacht]

Shanks death wld be sad

[frozen aspen]

kinda sad

[hot cairn]

ye

[ashen perch]

Shanks dying to BB theories are dead

Shanks dying in general?

[stone terrace]

Shanks will die to bb

[ashen perch]

not yet

[stone terrace]

We will proceed as planned

[frozen aspen]

Shanks got too much going to die rn

[ashen perch]

Shanks can die to Imu in the final war

[hot cairn]

not anymore

[ashen perch]

after the Figarland plotline has played out already

[frozen aspen]

Besides shanks gotta fullfill his actual dream first so there is no way he will die

Oda would never let him of all ppl die with his dream unfulfilled

[ashen perch]

just like his ancestor, Joyboy...

[stone terrace]

Is it only me thats not particularly interested in shanks interacting with the other figarlands in the present

[hot cairn]

might be

[frozen aspen]

no i get it

[ashen perch]

maybe just you idk

[frozen aspen]

there is nothing much to br said Shanks made his choice a long time ago. I think Garling should interact with dragon though given that there is now a connection between him and the twins

[hot cairn]

chapter week

[ashen perch]

cant wait for this FULL fight chapter that everyone has been doubting we are getting

I even know the title already, its "Rocks v Garp and Roger"

[pulsar path]

Tbh most likely will be dragons fight or sabo

[ashen perch]

it was revealed to me in a dream

[hot cairn]

it’s like you don’t know Oda

[leaden rivet]

They at least need to fight

[pulsar path]

Maybe Sabo vs sham

[pseudo gulch]

Who's gonna tell him

[ashen perch]

I know Oda personally

[leaden rivet]

3 clashes, some dialogue and that’s it

[ashen perch]

I know we are getting one chapter of the fight

[hot cairn]

this

[ashen perch]

they will

[frozen aspen]

Sandman don't u have a restraining order though

[ashen perch]

also no, its gonna be a full fight chapter, atleast

[graceful belfry]

[ashen perch]

one chapter is the minimum, depends on how Oda is feeling though

we could go beyond a chapter too

guys Onigashima was not a century ago

where is this idea that Oda doesnt draw fights coming from

[hot cairn]

this is a flashback silly man

[frozen aspen]

this is a fb though

no full fights in fb

[ashen perch]

theres always a first

[frozen aspen]

true

[hot cairn]

lol Sure

[frozen aspen]

but oda hates powerscalers too much tobl do that

[ashen perch]

we are going to get a couple full fights in void century too

[proud pivot]

we arent

[hot cairn]

right

[proud pivot]

keep your hopes low

[iron oriole]

VC is one i could see full fights for

Joyboy vs Imu

[graceful belfry]

Joyboy versus 20 kings freeze frame leading into narration about how it went down

[ashen perch]

you dont know Oda like I do

[pseudo gulch]

I bet we're getting half a chapter of fight AT MOST and then we cut to the narrator closing the God Valley segment of the flashback and we see what Harald is doing

[proud pivot]

this isnt hxh lil buddy

[ashen perch]

the Oda hates fights take WILL die within the next 30 days

[graceful belfry]

True, true

[hot cairn]

it’s not a Oda hates fight take

stop making it that

it’s Oda doesnt do full fights in flashbacks

and that’s a fact

[ashen perch]

people have made it that

[hot cairn]

no one here is making it that but you

rn

[ashen perch]

also btw

theres precedent

well technically it wasnt FULL

but we saw Ace v BB in a flashback

[hot cairn]

??

[ashen perch]

and it was an entire chapter

and a bit more

[hot cairn]

that wasnt a flashback tho

[proud pivot]

arsal will gv still end in 2 chapters tho

[ashen perch]

speedreaders............

1167

[proud pivot]

6 7

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/61-41-67-61-new-meme-61-meme-gif-4909211002993893210

[ashen perch]

it counts

[proud pivot]

6 1 has no aura cant lie

[ashen perch]

Oda went back 3-4 days in time to show Ace v BB

[hot cairn]

dawg

you know it’s not the same

our real precedent is Harald vs Rocks

which just happened

[ashen perch]

not really

[stone terrace]

Ace vs bb was a good fight

It wasnt a great one

[ashen perch]

Harald v Rocks was shorter than Oden and the Scabbards v Beast Pirates lol

also shorter than Roger Pirates v WBP

I wouldnt count it at all

[hot cairn]

you’re giving good examples of how flashbacks don’t show full fights

[ashen perch]

this will be our first

even if you dont wanna count Ace v BB, it will definitely be our first

[digital spear]

So we wont see Joyboy vs Imu during Void Century?

[blazing mantle]

Yo this fight was goated

Until plot kicked in

[hot cairn]

idk, that flashback might be a whole arc itself

[blazing mantle]

😢

[rich hornet]

It will be big for a FB fight but condensed relative to real time ones

[ashen perch]

Void Century flashback is only going to be 10 more chapters than this flashback

[pulsar path]

Lol every time I see FB I think Facebook and the shit takes

[ashen perch]

this is gonna be the 2nd longest flashback in the series, whats the difference

[prisma yacht]

Samee

[ashen perch]

we will see the Void Century fights and we will see this fight, its fine, you guys are giving into doomerism

[pulsar path]

Sometimes I go in and talk crap but it's bad for my health

[fallen meteor]

Crazy stuff

[rich hornet]

It’s a good thing that FB fights will be more streamlined. Nothing doomy

[pulsar path]

I don't recommend it lol

[fallen meteor]

FB is only good for birthday reminders

[prisma yacht]

I did delete my I'd last week

[pulsar path]

I have my algorithm to only send me cat reels so that's good

[digital spear]

This one is also coming close to that with 20 chapters

[pulsar path]

I haven't gotten there yet but I feel that way with twitter for sure

[frozen aspen]

u gotta be old in the first place to have FB

[ashen perch]

well that is fine, I dont disagree with you generally at all but the people who think Oda wont show the fight DO actually think its bad that he won't

[hot cairn]

yeah

[pulsar path]

At one time you know you couldn't make one unless you could prove you were a college student?

[prisma yacht]

I don't use twitter much to notice it xdd good for me ig

[hot cairn]

I agree with this

[vestal heath]

oh god not this again

[frozen aspen]

wild

[pulsar path]

It's all bots now and tbh I only go on to see wario 64

[blazing mantle]

Add 3

[ashen perch]

and thats why I think its doomy, because people do actually want to see the fight but they have completely accepted that Oda won't be showing it

[hot cairn]

again, you know I’m not saying that right?

[pulsar path]

Add 3?

[ashen perch]

jesus lets be real

[blazing mantle]

Add 3 to 64

[ashen perch]

do you seriously not want to see this

[pulsar path]

Oh shit did he change his name!?!!

[hot cairn]

I’m more excited for the Harald incident and the present

[blazing mantle]

I doubt it

[blazing mantle]

He’s telling all this in 3 minutes

[ashen perch]

well I am more excited for the present too but you do love GV lol

[blazing mantle]

And we still have yet to see how he died

[weak wedge]

Bruh you kid you saying these numbers

[frozen aspen]

I think he might show ut but it's not gonna be 5 chapters long. If you want thorough fights then one piece is the wrong place to look for them unless its a luffy bods fight

[hot cairn]

I do yes

[ashen perch]

I cant see why you wouldnt want Oda to depict the climax of this then

[pulsar path]

Wait I get it 67....

[pulsar path]

I'm old these memes go over my Garp Rayleigh head

[rich hornet]

It’s just for the forgone conclusions, best not drag it out for the sake of hype alone. Give it enough room to breath, show everyone doing cool attacks and making dramatic statements, snd then get it over with

[weak wedge]

Yep idk it's like kids thing

[hot cairn]

I want to see it, I just don’t mind if it’s more streamlined tho

[weak wedge]

Yes

[hot cairn]

that wouldn’t be bad

[weak wedge]

Are you genz

[proud pivot]

@digital spear subtract 51 from 100, double the result now minus 31 from it, what do you get

[hot cairn]

true true, that’s what I hope for

[weak wedge]

Nothing

[digital spear]

67

[ashen perch]

well yea, nobody should expect 5 chapters ofc

[weak wedge]

41

[ashen perch]

fair enough

[pulsar path]

Na I'm from the Millennial age

[digital spear]

SIX SEVEEENN

[weak wedge]

Oh I am a genz

[pulsar path]

My bro always does this at the drive through for my nephew's lmao

[hot cairn]

I do give it 2-3 chapters for God Valley to end tho still

[weak wedge]

Yes

[digital spear]

1166 the Imu chapter where he deletes God Valley

[pulsar path]

Idk I fear oda will rush through this next chapter but I hope not

[digital spear]

Simply hope Oda will defeat his hack urges and gives us a nice little Roger and Garp vs Rocks that he promised us 6-7 years ago.

[plucky tulip]

Oda isn’t a reliable source

Wb beats IMU objectively debate me

[digital spear]

Yo its bean

[proud pivot]

lmfao

[hot cairn]

for the cutaways?

it was in jump festa tho

[ashen perch]

there are no hack urges and we will get a full chapter, have faith in what I have dreamed of

[plucky tulip]

Oda is not a reliable source and inconsistent with what he says

Ask me next time

Whitebeard beats imu objectively DEBATE

me

[ashen perch]

what is your issue man

[hot cairn]

go to the other manga channel for that

[plucky tulip]

This is also manga

[graceful belfry]

[wet condor]

Not even Bean goes this hard for WB

[plucky tulip]

I’ve won too many debates there

[hot cairn]

what did I just say

[prisma yacht]

He needs his 101st win

[digital spear]

@ocean totem we found your alt

[wet condor]

^

[leaden rivet]

I’ve never seen someone use Whitebeard as bait

[rich hornet]

No its #also-manga

[frail kindle]

Oh God it's you

[leaden rivet]

It’s usually Zoro or Akainu or something

[ashen perch]

can you stop with the ragebait, nobody wants to debate this lol

[plucky tulip]

Ragebait yet nobody has beat me in a debate

Factually

[ashen perch]

go find a hobby man

[frozen aspen]

what bait?

[leaden rivet]

The man who won 100 debates is such a goofy name

[plucky tulip]

Promise you im more productive than u

[proud pivot]

aye its not bait when its Akainu

akainu wins

[wet condor]

In all seriousness, you're in the wrong channel. We don't do that over here

[hot cairn]

it’s always the 2025 people LOL

[proud pivot]

LOL

[plucky tulip]

u have over 1k messages in this discord

I don’t spend that much time on discord

[prisma yacht]

I see that's why the pointless debates

[hot cairn]

how did you win 100 debates then

[prisma yacht]

Makes sense

[hot cairn]

allegedly

[plucky tulip]

ok illyasae

how do u even pronounce that

[wet condor]

Like you can keep trying, but no one is going to take you seriously. And at some point, there's a solid chance that you'll just get ignored lol

[rich hornet]

Very efficiently

[digital spear]

Its been so many in the last week or so

I feel like im getting paranoid

[hot cairn]

yeah I noticed

[plucky tulip]

And precisely

[wet condor]

Everyone will just ignore you or block you lol

[digital spear]

We are getting stormed by alts

[plucky tulip]

Oh no

[ashen perch]

everytime someone rejects debating him, he just assumes that he won that debate

I have seen this play out already

[plucky tulip]

Never done before

[frail kindle]

Arsal just for reference

[plucky tulip]

That’s like putting words into my mouth

[rare ivy]

Domi Reversi effect

[plucky tulip]

I’ve never done that

[wet condor]

I'm just telling you, that you'll get a better response if you go to #manga

[proud pivot]

all these baiters can never be sb level

[frail kindle]

This guy said he read the previous chapter over 10x and still thought will of d was will of davy

[digital spear]

He wins every debate in 10 messages

[plucky tulip]

That was not me

[hot cairn]

damn

impressive

[frigid gulch]

Cook

[rare ivy]

Imu needs to release a research paper on Domi Reversi

[plucky tulip]

you are talking about 100 failed products or some shit

[leaden rivet]

Well to be fair he has the attention of the entire chat rn

Doesn’t get much better than that for a baiter

[plucky tulip]

Keep calling it ragebait but nobody wants to debate

Because u can’t

[hot cairn]

isnt it ragebait

[final trench]

Ohhh brother

[ashen perch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_qWsQNWSVI

[rare ivy]

It’s worthy of Nobel Prize in Physics and Biology

[ashen perch]

I cant stop watching this

[final trench]

That nigga is dead who cares

[hot cairn]

his voice suits him

[final trench]

Its a new beard in town

[ashen perch]

they cooked too hard

Tsuda was such an excellent choice

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/blackbeard-trafalgar-law-gura-crush-law-blackbeard-vs-law-gif-1276723233884227469

[native seal]

does anyone know the BGM on that it's so fucking catchy I need to know

[plucky tulip]

Chapter 552 wb is said to posses the power to destroy the world. The world as an imu or the word in general either way you interpret it proves wb is the strongest in the verse and his name is the strongest itw too

I can keep going

[final trench]

And now bb has the power

[wet condor]

It's from Stampede film I think

I nkow what one you're takling about

[ashen perch]

he is always great but its almost like his voice just so perfectly mirrors Shanks's raspy but kind voice

[plucky tulip]

Bb is the strongest now then

[final trench]

Blackbeard upscale

[digital spear]

So glue

[hot cairn]

I wonder who they have in mind for Loki

[ashen perch]

I dont think this BGM has been in any OP stuff before, first time I am hearing it

[plucky tulip]

But an emperor is leeching off wb abilities so another whitebeard upscale

[wet condor]

For that Blackbeard gif?

[ashen perch]

maybe its Kohei Tanaka's theme for the HKs

[wet condor]

Oh it definitely has

[hot cairn]

BGM?

[plucky tulip]

Wb is the reason Blackbeard is who he is

[wet condor]

background music

[hot cairn]

ahh

[ashen perch]

for the Shamrock PV

[wet condor]

Oh nvm

[hot cairn]

might be the holy knights theme

[ashen perch]

yeah that would be cool

[final trench]

Nope

Whitebeard dead n gone

[frozen aspen]

by dropping your opponents IP adress I presume

[final trench]

They throw a cookout for whitebeard every year

That boy is DUST

https://tenor.com/view/whitebeard-marineford-blackbeard-spoilers-whitebeard-death-gif-23085348

[ashen perch]

Egghead missed with the soundtrack so hard, they should have given the Gorosei their new individual themes

[prisma yacht]

Shamrocks need some cool feats....
With the va buff it's gonna be legendary to watch when he will be on screen

[hot cairn]

wdym the soundtrack is fire

[leaden rivet]

Why is he just standing there, is he stupid ?

[final trench]

Yes

He’s old and decrepit

He froze at the sight of davy d teach

[ashen perch]

the OP ost is always fire but I wanted new music

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/vasco-shot-one-piece-vasco-one-piece-blackbeard-blackbeard-pirates-gif-10687781953636289586

[ashen perch]

instead they have stuck with older tracks

[hot cairn]

ahh

fair enough

[ashen perch]

with the anime going seasonal, I hope they really fix some of these issues with the anime

[native seal]

the shamrock's part is probably the holy knight theme, the BGM on the shanks part is what's catchy to me

it gives opening vibes

[ashen perch]

more than the bad sound effects, what really bothers me is the repetitive soundtrack in One Piece

[ornate tartan]

if they don’t fix the sfx when they go seasonal i’m afraid they never will😂

[pulsar path]

Hey can we put shamrocks hair up in a pompadour so he looks like kuwabara

[warm sierra]

They would rather try out shoddy CGI than replace sound effects from the 80s

[ashen perch]

the tracks themselves are good but you REALLY get tired of them after hearing them for the 100th time, they gotta fix all these issues with Elbaf 🙏

[native seal]

from the 80s isn't even a stretch at this point

[hot cairn]

wasnt the 6 month break supposedly to fix that

[digital spear]

I wanted his reveal to be like this when he took off his cloak. Because he was looking too much like Shanks otherwise

[ornate tartan]

i’m still hearing the same sound effects from dragon ball z and pre timeskip one piece whenever I watch the new episodes

[pulsar path]

We been robbed!

[ashen perch]

they used new sfx in the FMI remake but not Egghead

[hot cairn]

that’s odd

[leaden rivet]

Oh I thought that guy just gave up but he actually got muted lol

[pulsar path]

I mean that's exactly why tho

[hot cairn]

LOL

how do you know

[leaden rivet]

He has the muted role

[digital spear]

Muted role

[ashen perch]

Elbaf is the right opportunity for it, hopefully Toei invests in that stuff

[pulsar path]

I'm sure they feer it will make dragon ball fans not nostalgic lkl

[hot cairn]

oh

[native seal]

shadow mute is crazy

[leaden rivet]

Why would Arsal do this

[graceful belfry]

Imagine that. Shanks having escaped from Garling’s influence of terrible hair cuts

[ashen perch]

they can't pretend like the anime is undergoing a major upgrade when its still using the same tracks for a million times, and the same sfx too

[warm sierra]

Tyranny

[pulsar path]

I like the sfx

[tough kestrel]

hard to change the sfx

[ashen perch]

is it

[pulsar path]

It would mess up constituency

[tough kestrel]

now his g2 punch gonna sound different?

[wet condor]

It's actually hilarious how old the sfx are

[tough kestrel]

or the teleportation sounds, flash sounds etc

[graceful belfry]

The sfx is utter dog shit but I’d be lying if I said it distracted me from the show

[pulsar path]

Damn when was the last time we seen g2

[wet condor]

They've been using the same sfx for over 30 years

[digital spear]

Basically it was bean who was domi reversed (hacked) and he begged Arsal to put him down (mute him) via Voice of all things (dms) so Arsal had to do it

[ashen perch]

I think people would get used to the new ones

[hot cairn]

it’s not that big of a change, it’s exactly what they’ve done this year

[wet condor]

It might be 40 something at this point

[rich hornet]

Now that they are doing seasonal, that’s an excuse to revamp

[tough kestrel]

i think you can change some sound effects, but other just need to stay

[sage temple]

They already animated a character for Elbaph and it seems more-less new I don't remember anything like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCPgslwamWw

[pulsar path]

I mean tbh idk if you guys know this they already started doing seasonal lol

[graceful belfry]

They been rocking with that soundboard since the 80s

[wet condor]

Sometimes it does? Like it does take me out of it for a second

[graceful belfry]

It’s got sentimental value

[wet condor]

Because I remember hearing those same effects in other anime

[tough kestrel]

thats what we talking about

[pulsar path]

I mean like egghead already is seasonal we took 6 month break

[graceful belfry]

Sometimes, yeah. I didn’t grow up on DB so I tend to associate those fucking laser beam sounds with One Piece but like, when they spam the looney tunes sound effects I start to roll my eyes a little

[pulsar path]

I don't think anything is changing from current egghead productions

[hot cairn]

yeah

[ashen perch]

you didnt get distracted by the goofy ass shoes in egghead Rei?

[hot cairn]

it’s not that different from what they’re doing now

[ashen perch]

thats crazy

[tough kestrel]

the series has been going for so long, thats why the sounds have been the same. I dont get it

[pulsar path]

Yeah exactly

[rich hornet]

It’s just official

[pulsar path]

But it's criminal they are only aiming 1:1 chapters episodes

[dense rapids]

Can the void channel be opened

[tough kestrel]

how are you gonna change a sound that has been the same sound for 20 years? It would change the effect

[graceful belfry]

No, but I saw a clip where the boot sounds sounded super sus during a serious moment

[digital spear]

This is the real reason Shanks left not the slavery or whatever

[graceful belfry]

LOL

[pulsar path]

It's MegaMan sound effects

[graceful belfry]

Bro came back home and saw Garling’s haircut and was like, nahhhh

[pulsar path]

In pretty sure that's what the outfits are based on

[ashen perch]

they sound ridiculous lol, like its the one that really turned me on the sound design of the series as a whole

this shit cant keep sounding like this

[pulsar path]

They really don't if you understand the context

[graceful belfry]

At least Egghead is almost finished

[warm sierra]

Its also not just the sfx themselves but they have so little that there is way too much repetition

[ornate tartan]

Egghead wraps up in december right

[pulsar path]

It's based on MegaMan and when Megaman walks he makes this sounds

[ashen perch]

at some point you just gotta change things, we are in the 26th year of the series and the SFX has remained the same

[tough kestrel]

some things

[pulsar path]

I mean your basically asking them to hire a whole sounds team to make sound effects

[tough kestrel]

yiu cant change ir all when its been the same for 20 years

[graceful belfry]

You and Bon are the kings of vintage anime and game knowledge

[grand flower]

https://tenor.com/view/okay-i'll-do-it-dante-jason-momoa-fast-x-i'm-in-gif-13157659900890517883

[ornate tartan]

I got used to them, it would actually be weird for me to hear new ones in the show😂

[ashen perch]

I am sure they can

[pulsar path]

I would trust you

[pulsar path]

Aww this is sweet I take this with a Badge of honor

[graceful belfry]

You know what I hope never changes, though? The voice actors playing the roles for random animal noises

[dense rapids]

I hate that bubble sound of the gorosei transforming 😭

[ornate tartan]

i’ve watched 2 series with the same sound effects and one of them is 1100+ episodes long

[tough kestrel]

exactly

[graceful belfry]

I love when a dog barks and you can clearly tell it’s a grown man making that noise

[pulsar path]

Lmao I didn't know that

[ashen perch]

I feel like people wouldnt quite get the difference till say, the WIT remake comes out. When they see what truly modern production is like

its gonna be great to see a fresh take on One Piece there

[tough kestrel]

i think they modernized it they way they wanted to

[warm sierra]

Toei thought they were cute giving demaro‘s crew the mixed up strawhats voices just for Oda to make them cosplay as the kid pirates years later

[tough kestrel]

And will continue to do so when it goes seasonal

i doubt they want to overhaul all the stx watchers have gotten used to iver so many years

[ashen perch]

its weird, because they do know about the issues with the SFX, and I believe they used new ones in the FMI remake

it really doesnt matter if people are used to it honestly

[tough kestrel]

it would make it harder to know whats going on. People would be looking for certain sounds

you would notice “oh, that sounds different”

[ashen perch]

they will get used to it all over again in no time

like I dont think anyone is gonna be confused when they see the WIT remake just because its different

[ornate tartan]

only @grand flower can save one piece sfx

[tough kestrel]

sure, you can get used to anything with time

[fallen meteor]

Dude i found that there's 60 people close to me with the last name Sanji

[tough kestrel]

but rhats not the aspect. I dont think they think its broken lol

[fallen meteor]

Im going to make the perfect sanji fan

[digital spear]

Werent we only saying its gonna be cutaways because Oda said it for 2025 and no way Elbaf was gonna end this year so the outside world stuff would need to be a cutaway? But we got nothing this year so might as well be after the arc?

[fallen meteor]

Name the little guy Vinsmoke

[grand flower]

Every SFX will be the sound WBs DF makes

[grand flower]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-boy-cowboy-gif-19597798

[somber flare]

I kinda like it

[ashen perch]

nah, because it was Oda's wording that was important to me

[somber flare]

Most of the time

[ashen perch]

he teased the events of Elbaf and followed it up with a "meanwhile", its basically straight up confirmation of cutaways

[digital spear]

I dont think his wording was like that (I forgot what he said)

[warm sierra]

Will we see that man though

[ashen perch]

As for the manga, we've finally arrived in Elbaph! It's a laid back kingdom, but the serenity is about to be shattered by the arrival of a particular man! Meanwhile, there will be tumult in other seas as well! And at last, that one guy will begin shaking up the world! Take a deep breath now, because soon you may not be able to come up for air!

Meanwhile, there will be tumult in other seas as well! And at last, that one guy will begin shaking up the world!

this is happening at the same time as Elbaf

[somber flare]

I’m finally catching up on the anime after like 3 years of not watching it

[tough kestrel]

yes probably be a cutaway, but the length of time isnt mentioned

a cutaway can be 2 pages

2 slides

[royal orchid]

that one guy

[tough kestrel]

im reading 1134 right now, and had cutaways to shanks talking to gaban twice in this chapter

[vale heath]

The Guy

[fallen meteor]

This last phrase is interesting

Flooding soon

[vale heath]

https://tenor.com/view/i'm-the-guy-the-real-guy-spy-kids-elijah-wood-the-guy-gif-12362202819752358000

[ashen perch]

yea marin

[vale heath]

Can we power scale The Guy

[tough kestrel]

good point

[vale heath]

Can he beat Crocodile

[wet condor]

I was so let down to see him get BTFO

[fallen meteor]

Its THAT guy

[wet condor]

Literally oneshot

[digital spear]

Not as strong as The Dude

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/the-guy-spy-kids-spy-kids3-spy-kids-gameover-spy-kids3d-gif-20854189

[ashen perch]

true but I think Oda is referring to events taking place outside Elbaf so he will take his time with them like he did in Egghead

[digital spear]

https://tenor.com/view/the-dude-abide-the-big-lebowski-stir-gif-3523187

[vale heath]

Confirmed he hard loses to Enel

[wet condor]

I remember the level of disappointment that I felt when this happened

heart sank

[royal orchid]

isn't this the scene of the guy who's almost advertising the concept of a white russian

https://tenor.com/view/the-dude-abide-the-big-lebowski-stir-gif-15666724888892850933

it is!

[pulsar path]

I mean im a huge dragon ball fan so I'm the same way !

[vale heath]

One piece but with Edd Ed n’ eddy sounds

[rich hornet]

Cinema

[vale heath]

https://tenor.com/view/ed-edd-eddy-ed-edd-eddy-pig-gif-4481226921901741625

[digital spear]

Why he do that

[fallen meteor]

Shining his hog

[rich hornet]

Typically to make a quarter

[hot cairn]

last episode adapted more than one chapter

[fallen meteor]

2 if im not misremembering

[vale heath]

Good ol’ Eddy putting far more effort and money into a project than he can possibly get out of it

A true hero

[brittle basin]

Good morning.

[vale heath]

I do not think Chaka is important

Nor the jackal fruit

[digital spear]

Thats where youre wrong

!pell2

[tropic nova]

AWAKENED ZOAN

[digital spear]

Awakened jakal soon

[warm sierra]

To finish egghead this year, but iirc for elbaf they are going back to 1:1

[hot cairn]

whenever that comes out

[digital spear]

Wit Piece got cancelled

[ashen perch]

true

[ashen perch]

update at Jump Festa, trust

[hot cairn]

1.5 actually

[hot cairn]

probably yeah

[hot cairn]

when do you think it’s happening? After the flashback or after the arc is over?

Cause YC is kinda right, we’ll go to 2026 without cutaways so it might happend after the arc is over

[ashen perch]

the arc isnt ending anytime soon

[hot cairn]

I lost all hope when we didn’t get anything on OP Day

[sly belfry]

big if true

[fallen meteor]

Holy shit I will be so rich

[barren token]

Hey everyone can I ask a question?

[fallen meteor]

Sure

[barren token]

What did you guys think of the chapter?

[fallen meteor]

Pretty cool

[barren token]

Nice

[ashen perch]

Cunk can I ask a question

[barren token]

No

[fallen meteor]

What about you?

[grand flower]

I didn’t

[ashen perch]

aw

[stone terrace]

Jealous toei animators tied up WIT piece producers and threatened to beat them with bats if they didnt cancel the project

[grand flower]

I felt this chapter

I felt it

[barren token]

Did wit piece get cancelled??

[fallen meteor]

Toei raided wit studios and kidnapped the animators

[barren token]

:(

[hot cairn]

it feel like it died

[hot cairn]

it’s ending next year

[fallen meteor]

There's some kind of rumor saying toei is asking wit to delay the release but I think its just people trying to justify the time between news

[distant vine]

There's no reason to do that lmao

Thats a silly rumor

[hot cairn]

Elbaph is ending in 2026

[ashen perch]

I think they are just taking their time with the production, thats all

[hot cairn]

that’s a nothing burger rumor ngl

[ashen perch]

also no Jesus

[barren token]

Idk

The fact this flashback won't even be over before this year ends

Elbaf has till mid 2027 at least

[hot cairn]

the fighting can end next year

[fallen meteor]

How mad you guys would be if we go back to present times and they have gunko tied and its a York situation again

[willow pollen]

Impossible

[distant vine]

Thatd be incredibly ass lmao

[willow pollen]

No way

[hot cairn]

and unless there’s cutaways I don’t see why it can’t end in 2026

[willow pollen]

This is a flashback

[digital spear]

Feels like it

[ashen perch]

I think when we return, Zoro and Sanji will have lost already atleast

[digital spear]

This would be so funny

[distant vine]

But since everyone got mad at me for calling out the Egghead cut, you guys deserve to get more of the story cut

[willow pollen]

This is coming from a guy that called the time skip on egghead

[hot cairn]

in what chapter will we be in mid 2027? @ashen perch

[digital spear]

Arsal would go crazy I think

[digital spear]

Like 1210

[barren token]

All because Loki doesn't know how to summarise and keeps including tangents smh

[hot cairn]

mmmm

[distant vine]

After all, writers can just skip any part of the story they feel is boring or whatever

[willow pollen]

Well actually Loki isn’t narrating

[digital spear]

1210-1220

[fallen meteor]

It cuts back to loki going up the elevator with luffy and hjarudin and they meet sanji and zoro on the branches saying they solved the threat

[ashen perch]

everyone should crazy over this one but I dont see it

[hot cairn]

I don’t think we’re getting a little time skip

[willow pollen]

Guys

Please

As someone who called the times skip on egghead (this means everything I say is right) there will be no time skip

[ashen perch]

like 1215-1220, the arc could end by then yea

[barren token]

I mean, whatever you think of the egghead cut i would say obviously gunko possessed by imu is way more important to show then york

[distant vine]

Must feel euphoric to predict Oda is gonna make a bad decision and then he does it

[barren token]

Unless you think imu is going to be another meme villain

[fallen meteor]

It would be so funny tho

[distant vine]

😂

[hot cairn]

we didn’t cutaway we’re just in the flashback

[willow pollen]

It’s not just that, we were literally told there’d be a time skip cause the narrator said the important shit would happen the next day

[hot cairn]

it’ll go back to right when we left it

[willow pollen]

But everyone ignored to

It’s different now

[ashen perch]

I think we do skip whatever Zoro and Sanji do tho

[hot cairn]

nah no way

[distant vine]

Bad

[barren token]

Maaaybe

[ashen perch]

why not

[fallen meteor]

I want to see them lose too

[barren token]

More likely we just see them get one shot

[ashen perch]

I think by the time Luffy and Loki get up there, they will have lost already

[stone terrace]

I forget about the timeskip controversy LMAO

[distant vine]

Sanji standing by and letting Zoro fight cause he's the only one with COC

Cinema

[stone terrace]

Egghead is an arc of firsts

[barren token]

Luffy gets up and sanjis already been domi reversed

He now respects women

[hot cairn]

this flashback is peak but dear God it needs to end

[fallen meteor]

While they are going up the elevator sanji and zoro fly down unconscious

[distant vine]

Cant believe how many people advocated for just having a hole in the story

[royal orchid]

at this point I forgot who's there with imu
it's like usopp jimbe brook and coron somewhere?

[hot cairn]

how many chapters left do you guys think it has?

[distant vine]

Like I meme about Skysleepa but I would never actually want it cut

[ashen perch]

Oda can show it by another flashback

[hot cairn]

it cant be more than 5

[distant vine]

But I guess I respect One Piece more than others do

[barren token]

You're kinda annoying indi ngl

[royal orchid]

the flashback piece...

[distant vine]

How much

[hot cairn]

Nami, Usopp, Robin, Brook and Jinbe are tied up

[hoary steppe]

[weak wedge]

Yes

[ashen perch]

there was never any legitimate argument in support of the skip but people pretended like it was good because they thought them being bored justified it

[fallen meteor]

They get there
Sanji and zoro down on the floor
Luffy goes "What happened here??"
Loki says "Six years ago I was..." and we get another flashbacm

[royal orchid]

right yeah now that you said it I remembered the panel

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/de-nada-bingo-guiño-gif-23610586

Thank you goda

[ashen perch]

it is what it is, atleast hopefully its the first and last time we ever get anything like it

[distant vine]

I dont think itll happen again

[hot cairn]

I didn’t mind the skip

[willow pollen]

But I called it 😭

[royal orchid]

what skip are you guys talking about
the egghead York one?

[willow pollen]

I legit called it and people called me crazy

[hot cairn]

ye

[barren token]

I don't think the skip works because it skips boring stuff or whatever people say i think jt works because of how it undermines York and shows her as a joke

[hot cairn]

I don’t remember that Vain

[royal orchid]

it would just be generic punching slashing scenes

[hot cairn]

I agree

[barren token]

The worst thing about the skip is robin getting injured

[digital spear]

^

[fallen meteor]

Yeah

[hot cairn]

hypes up the crew very well

[hot cairn]

absolutely

[distant vine]

Oh to be clear I didnt mind the skip. I thought that was a great juxtaposition

It was just all conditional on going back later

[royal orchid]

yeah that puts it back a couple levels

[digital spear]

We shouldve seen whatever happened between Robin and York or the seraphim even in a flashback

[royal orchid]

robin just gets injured offscreen and is out for the arc

[ashen perch]

the real worst thing about the skip was that Oda just never really proceeded to elaborate on it

at the time of it happening, I thought it was like the Ryuma v Zoro skip

[distant vine]

If he did go back and show some things it would have been a slam dunk moment really

[brittle basin]

Sleeping through a buster call. ez.

[hoary steppe]

Sometimes i think oda is rushing up

[ashen perch]

like surely Oda would go back and address what happened

[hot cairn]

LOL

[stone terrace]

How arent there fanarts of imunko defeating luffy

[ashen perch]

but guess what, the follow up was everyone very very awkwardly hinting at maybe 40% of the shit that happened after it happened

[stone terrace]

There were ones for zoro taking kizarus arm ffs

[hot cairn]

what makes you believe he’s rushing

[hoary steppe]

Imunko? Who the hell invented this name

[royal orchid]

zoro fans never gave up on ZKK they just move onto the next big guy

[brittle basin]

Can you find me Gerd and Ripley fanart instead?

[digital spear]

Wouldve been cool if 1089 ended the way it did and start of 1090 we get a little flashback of the most important things and show what happened to Robin so we can understand why shes sitting on her ass for the rest of the arc

[stone terrace]

Yours truly

[ashen perch]

and we didnt catch up so you were wrong smh

[grand flower]

Genius

[distant vine]

We were robbed of Zoro & Brook vs Kizaru...

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/montypython-witch-burnthewitch-gif-5477103

[hot cairn]

Oda didnt show what happened so you were wrong

[willow pollen]

I mean it was the right thing to do, oda just didn’t do it

Bruh

[grand flower]

Blackbeard pirates flashback

[stone terrace]

Probably but not the kind that i can share

[willow pollen]

Such a a stupid thing to focus on

I called the time skip

[hoary steppe]

Lot of stuff getting skipped ykno, rocky port, fuji and greenbull at reverie

[royal orchid]

the name imuko/imunko started like the first 3 minutes of her being real

[ashen perch]

Imuko>Imunko because it sounds like Luffyko, the name of female Luffy from some fake ID spoilers

[ashen perch]

eh...

[hoary steppe]

Gunkmu ???

[digital spear]

I thought it would be like this too but emphasis on the "short flashbacks"

[royal orchid]

gunk

[distant vine]

Imuko is best

[hot cairn]

but Oda showed the reverie flashback, also the rocky port is just cool lore

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/gunkseed-deep-rock-moment-bruh-gif-27569648

[ashen perch]

I think of it all the time actually

[willow pollen]

I mean, technically, we did get some short flashbacks concerning what happened

Bonney stuff was a flashback

So

I was right

[ashen perch]

its the reality, Oda is rushing, he is not going at the natural pace that he would have even just 5 years ago

[hoary steppe]

Nah like, fujitora helped the slaves .. and suddenly we see him on a bandage

[stone terrace]

Better than gunkmu

[hot cairn]

Oda isn’t rushing

[stone terrace]

Thats dogshit

[hoary steppe]

Fr fr

[hot cairn]

that doesn’t mean he’s rushing tho

[distant vine]

I wonder if this next return to Elbaph for Harald and co will be fast paced

Or gradual like the start

[digital spear]

Its funnier and riles up people more so its better

[brittle basin]

Oda is definitely increasing his pace, he has a lot of lore and character to get through and he's trying to cram it all. It just goes to show how huge One Piece will ultimately be.

[ashen perch]

Oda is absolutely trying to end the series as soon as he possibly can, thats kinda rushing 101

[hot cairn]

there’s lot to see so idk

[ashen perch]

just because he cant doesnt mean he isnt trying to

[hoary steppe]

I mean back in the day, oda set up a great fight or scene with other characters alot

[willow pollen]

Well this makes it seem like he doesn’t care

Which he does

[ashen perch]

well its complicated

[brittle basin]

you can see the pacing from panel to panel at times. he sometimes just skips time in between panels

[willow pollen]

Guys we haven’t even had a proper fight outside the flashback since we came here

[ashen perch]

he wants to end the series while he can, thats a sign he cares

[distant vine]

Very well Oda, I give you permission to make the hard cuts. SBS All Blue it is

[willow pollen]

I think we will get our shonen battle fix

[ashen perch]

I think he genuinely is worried for himself

[hot cairn]

the current pace he has is not bad or wrong tho

[brittle basin]

so do i arsal

[hoary steppe]

Like this for example

[brittle basin]

and i think toriyama's death lit an even bigger fire under his ass

[glass plume]

Oda's family situation is tragic

[brittle basin]

what family?

[ashen perch]

I don't fault him for rushing, I am just pointing out that it is the case for sure

[digital spear]

Its so funny how casually Oda mentioned this

[hot cairn]

again, it’s not really bad

[hoary steppe]

And then move on to other scene 😭

[hot cairn]

the current pace of the story is not bad

[ashen perch]

I disagree

I mean well

[fallen meteor]

Elaborate

[brittle basin]

I don't fault him for rushing. In fact, I encourage it. I want the series over sooner rather than later.

[hoary steppe]

Yea I dont blame him either

[glass plume]

i mean, he can't be with his family as much as he wants to

[ashen perch]

its not horrible, but its not ideal at all, far from it

[hoary steppe]

Brow i started really young when i follow this series 😭

[frosty oasis]

I just don’t think we’ll see his ideal vision

[brittle basin]

Weeeellll, technically he could. He chooses to keep working despite apparently being wealthy enough to easily retire and spend all his days with them.

[fallen meteor]

I see
The way you said i thought it was something specific

[hot cairn]

what would you think the story would look like if Oda was still “not rushing”

[hoary steppe]

Dressrosa

[frosty oasis]

Someone is gonna post the rabbit gif

[ashen perch]

I think the shift was Onigashima

[glass plume]

i suppose that's true

[hoary steppe]

Even WCI still good

[somber rivet]

The questions is of One Piece needeed to be this long for Oda now rushing for the finale or if was this long because he wanted to be like this more than a necesity

[hot cairn]

but he’s taking his time with Elbaph

[ashen perch]

so anything pre Onigashima, thats what the series looks like if he was drawing the series as he pleased

[distant vine]

Wano's ending is probably the first sign to me but that was influenced by Film Red

[hoary steppe]

This before the eye surgery

[brittle basin]

we just have to accept Oda is a workaholic even by other mangaka standards. He literally goes out of his way to do an arguably unecessary amount of additional work to flesh out the One Piece world.

[hoary steppe]

Netflix, film, weekly manga, sbs ???

[somber rivet]

I prefer if Oda Rush this for good and he can rest of all of this

[hoary steppe]

🗿

[somber rivet]

He is just a man

[brittle basin]

color spreads as well

[pulsar path]

Wow really!! First time in like 20 years and it was the vegapunk speech which took Soo long lol

[hoary steppe]

This too 😭

[distant vine]

Im listening to Kitadani's covers of One Piece openings. He's goated 😭

[ashen perch]

I dont think so because every chapter is packed to the maximum extent, this is an Oda who is still trying to do as much as he can, as quickly as he can

[hot cairn]

I personally don’t think he’s rushing, he’s just changing the pace because the story is finally in its climax. I might be wrong since I just started reading weekly OP in Onigashima tho

[brittle basin]

and he sometimes has to provide art for the cover of Shonen. and he does his fan requests and cover stories that continue the story

[hot cairn]

so maybe I just don’t notice the change

[glass plume]

wonder what opening Elbaph will have

[ashen perch]

I think Elbaf Oda has been better at masking rushing than Egghead Oda, but he is still going through it quickly

[willow pollen]

The what

[hot cairn]

but why is that bad for the story? Egghead and Elbaph are good even great arcs I would say

[ashen perch]

Egghead Oda was more clumsy with it, like the skip was a blatant example of him rushing

[hoary steppe]

Average Japanese workers

[distant vine]

Wdym what? Kitadani?

[willow pollen]

He covered the op songs ?

[distant vine]

Yeah he did some covers

[willow pollen]

Which ones where

[glass plume]

he has a whole album doesn't he?

[distant vine]

Wake Up, Kokoro no Chizu, Jungle P

[ashen perch]

its not bad, but it can be better

[glass plume]

which is just covers

[distant vine]

Some others as well

[willow pollen]

Omg I need to listen to these

[distant vine]

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAGqJNpG5ZZIhv3iM0eSKBC3wuNNujjNd&si=kJ0xettzInkO01kt

Omg he did Brand New World

[hot cairn]

I don’t think it can be better than this current pace. If we ever want to get to the end of the story that is.

[glass plume]

didn't he do all of them?

[willow pollen]

Thank you

[glass plume]

i swear he did

[stone terrace]

I gotta listen to those

[distant vine]

Not every opening

That would be a lot

[willow pollen]

Kokoro no chizy my beloved

[glass plume]

how many openings are there? 28?

[hot cairn]

because I get the complaint but it’s just something that’s necessary

[ashen perch]

yea again, I dont fault Oda for it, just saying that its the sad reality

[hot cairn]

it’s not that bad

[stone terrace]

I wonder if he'll be able to do one pieces final opening lmao

[hot cairn]

he should

or at least the first of the final arc

[brittle basin]

nah i think this is crazy even by the stereotypical Japanese salaryman experience. we know mangakas are a their own breed of workaholic. and oda is in his own league even among the workaholics of Shonen. he's a machine.

[hot cairn]

I don’t get the sad feeling

[distant vine]

I wonder if Kitadani will do the first Elbaph opening

[stone terrace]

Nah give him a break

[hazy echo]

https://x.com/aninewsandfacts/status/1985303384287535258?s=46

Anime News And Facts (@AniNewsAndFacts)

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[ashen perch]

I am hoping that Oda and Toei do collaborate on the adaptation during Elbaf like they mentioned in the stream, that would be nice. Would help the series be closer to Oda's vision atleast

[haughty saddle]

Sue them bitches

[somber rivet]

The only one who is probably worst than Oda, or better?, is Araki

And he is a lot older than him

[hazy echo]

Atm yea anime wise

[hoary steppe]

Lowky yeah, knowing this is a weekly manga

[stone terrace]

Good luck winning against OpenAI

[haughty saddle]

I want Shueisha to deliver me Sam Altman’s head on a pike

[ashen perch]

idkk

[hazy echo]

Also depends on if you’re counting the movie and spin off stuff as well

[hoary steppe]

Yeah, Toei definitely helped alot with the hole

[hot cairn]

but what is Oda’s vision of Elbaph for example? That’s what I don’t get

[hoary steppe]

Even tho that shi aint happening in manga 😂

[hot cairn]

based

[distant vine]

God Valley with more action would be nice

[ashen perch]

do you like the pacing for the flashback?

[hoary steppe]

We never see the power of that yeti HK

[ashen perch]

because I find it quite rushed personally, and its because Oda cant really afford to spend too much time here

[brittle basin]

same energy

[hot cairn]

yeah, my issues with the flashback are not really with the pace

[willow pollen]

wtf he even did my favorite uta song

No way

[hot cairn]

rushed in what way?

[hazy echo]

Wait what got mentioned in the stream

[distant vine]

I feel like the pace sped up a bit after Rocks took over the focus from Harald

[ashen perch]

that they will work closely with Oda on the adaptation

[willow pollen]

It’s cause the scope expanded before it was just focused on elbaf now it’s the entire world

[hoary steppe]

We didn’t even see how xebec kill that admira

[iron oriole]

Arsal, aren't you contradicting yourself a bit by saying its rushed but then also saying we're gonna get a full fight?

[ashen perch]

not at all

[hot cairn]

why did we need to see that

[ashen perch]

I think he has rushed everything for the sake of this

[leaden rivet]

This would’ve one tapped Gunko

[hoary steppe]

Cuz the character focus is xebec

[willow pollen]

Start of elbaf wasn’t really rushed though

[distant vine]

Interested in Oda talking about that admiral in the SBS

[willow pollen]

Even up to the flashback

[hot cairn]

that’s what I’m saying

[hazy echo]

Oh that’s neat

[hot cairn]

what part of Elbaph is rushed??

[ashen perch]

Jesus, I mean just look at the cast of characters in God Valley, how barely they are even being shown

[willow pollen]

This is normal one piece pacing

[hot cairn]

I could get the complaint in Egghead

[willow pollen]

Flashback effect

[hot cairn]

but not in Elbaph

[distant vine]

Ik what you mean but when you say Jesus like that it sounds like exasperation

[willow pollen]

Also we are seeing everything important

The only sad part is we didn’t see gods knights fighting

But oh well