also-manga

[lofty fern]

You ever seen Back to the Future? Basically Marty's mom. All pity 😆

[steel stirrup]

"Handsome"

Cavendish is beautiful

[winter comet]

Cavendish is beautiful

[urban lodge]

Shoujo prince holy knight...

[winter comet]

I’d argue law sometimes

[wraith mantle]

oda really said his design was ass amma retcon his whole existence

[winter comet]

But he an insomnia victim too

[steel stirrup]

The most handsome to me is King

Law is 2nd

[frozen aspen]

There is plenty of no chopped guys in one piece. Dragon and Blackbeard just aren't part of the list lol

[urban lodge]

Loki clears King btw

[fossil mortar]

king and law are good ones

loki eh he's okay

[winter comet]

Enel a handsome guy but his ears are funky

[steel stirrup]

Even with the eyes?

[hot cairn]

is this why you think it’s Luffy’s mom?

[sweet anvil]

Dragon and Blackbeard were so goated that oda made them chopped

[winter comet]

Crocodile

[urban lodge]

Yeah the eyes are cool as fuck

[sweet anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/hehe-gif-15484253710579183342

[fossil mortar]

croc isn't bad

[winter comet]

Crocodile is fire fr

[graceful grove]

Loki in his shit stained pants? no

[ornate tartan]

right now it’s shamrock without a doubt
shanks if he dressed better too

[steel stirrup]

I try to look at dudes and think "how would they look as a woman"

That being said Doffy

[sweet anvil]

Ugly ass snake eyes

[winter comet]

Shanks before the figarland

[potent pier]

We all assume if it's an island effect or not

[sweet anvil]

Loki doesn’t scratch top 10

[graceful grove]

Croco is handsome

[frigid gulch]

Loki’s eyes could mess it up

Gotta see

They’re cool but

[winter comet]

Lokis eyes are hideous bro

[fossil mortar]

loki just stays blindfolded

[steel stirrup]

Doffy

If a girl smiled at me like Doffy smiles I would melt

[formal wagon]

egghead ends in

[winter comet]

Doffy a good one

[fossil mortar]

even if they are doffy levels of evil?

[sweet anvil]

Yo I’m a grown ass man ranking other men’s attractiveness

[ashen perch]

nah, I explained my reasons didnt I? I will link a thread to you that was made after I posted my theory here that takes my points and expands upon them

[steel stirrup]

You promise?

[winter comet]

Rayleigh a handsome guy

[graceful grove]

u should run

[frozen aspen]

what about mihawk

[potent pier]

Adopted, yes

[steel stirrup]

Run to her

Yes

[urban lodge]

Mihawk is up there

[wraith mantle]

time to get your shit together twin

[frozen aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/mihawk-dracula-mihawk-yoru-katana-swordsman-gif-26837809

[fossil mortar]

i ain't know noboy unfrtounately

[winter comet]

Rob Lucci?

[frigid gulch]

Mihawk’s design is pretty layered tbh

[lofty fern]

https://tenor.com/view/great-minds-think-alike-high-five-amy-poehler-seth-meyers-gif-15682977

[frigid gulch]

It’s cool

[wraith mantle]

i think doffy is pretty handsome

[ashen perch]

@hot cairn https://x.com/StrawhatUFO/status/1971991732448526844?t=eSQvGyLgfe_CqYWH9qXP3A&s=19

Mr UFO 👒🛸 (@StrawhatUFO)

One Piece Long-Shot Theory:

The Man With The Burn Scar is…Tritoma???

A theory that brings together flames 🔥, go-mu 5⃣6⃣, and the power of love ♥️.

#onepiece #onepiecetheory

X · Sep 27, 2025, 5:34 PM

[sweet anvil]

I need to go do some productive shit 💔

[ashen perch]

sums it up well

[frigid gulch]

Hawk + Spanish conquistador + Count Dracula

[formal wagon]

🐐

[steel stirrup]

Thank you thank you

[wraith mantle]

fr

[frozen aspen]

sadly luffy looks more cute than handsome

[grand flower]

Kuma going from south blue to Marijoa to the west means Theres a lot of possible locations for his powers to work on already

[steel stirrup]

👀

[winter comet]

Sanji is handsome but

You know

[sweet anvil]

40 y/o Luffy

[steel stirrup]

Yea

I know

[lofty fern]

I just saw, a barbell fan! I thought only Syv loved that guy

[fossil mortar]

who's syv

[hot cairn]

ahh I remember reading this

[steel stirrup]

Optuber

[graceful grove]

he looks better as a female

[cold steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-d-luffy-one-piece-handsome-moments-strawhat-gif-23576389

[fossil mortar]

gotcha

[steel stirrup]

On my immortal soul

[winter comet]

Kinda funny how we never realised how chopped Roger was coz of his nose because the mustache

[ornate tartan]

https://x.com/greiish/status/1966168307175927920?s=46

Grecia 💋 (@Greiish)

Figarland Twins 🥀
#OnePiece

X · Sep 11, 2025, 3:53 PM

[wraith mantle]

ugly rats

[ashen perch]

yea lol, the guy stole it from me but I am not super mad, he raised some additional points that didnt come to my mind personally

[frozen aspen]

roger is not chopped at all tf

[ornate tartan]

shamrock is 1st

[lofty fern]

I guess, though that's if he ever was taken out of the hold of a boat. I think he actually has to see the place. He could have just been kept on the ship the whole time

[blazing depot]

Yassified

[hot cairn]

lol is that guy here in the server?

[ornate tartan]

he’s a better dressed shanks

[winter comet]

Back then we didn’t think Roger was chopped

[steel stirrup]

The pink shirt is saucy idc

[winter comet]

Even tho when u look back he is chopped

[fossil mortar]

he's aight

[lofty fern]

This woman is going to be revealed someday, I know it! Lady Akagami!

[wraith mantle]

this nigga looks goofy af

[ashen perch]

never seen him but he might be lol, dont think he just happened to post it after me

[formal wagon]

fire fit

[fossil mortar]

fit fire face mid

[winter comet]

Ace was really ahead of his time

[steel stirrup]

Why tf did Oda hide her face all this time bruh

Makes me think shes still alive and we may have ran into her before but I cant think of any red haired women that are prominent enough

[winter comet]

Guys but apparently canonically akainu is extremely handsome

[frozen aspen]

Roger has a more defined nose thats it

[steel stirrup]

Yea I've heard that

[fossil mortar]

tragically he is chopped

[potent pier]

We all know that Kuma sent BB and his mom to Sorbet

[winter comet]

Like Oda said akainu is the most handsome in the verse

[lofty fern]

Possible, we didn't see her die-die, so she might have made it. Maybe Kuma saved her?

[steel stirrup]

Maybe

[potent pier]

Like where else would he send them?

[frozen aspen]

Well given tha t shakky is considered the prettiest women alive at some point we have established that the people of one piece have dogshit taste

[fossil mortar]

no wonder akainu is assumed to have a child

[lofty fern]

Lady Akagami is Mosa! 😱

[winter comet]

No not the people of one piece, Oda said it

[graceful grove]

Roger and Rouge story is really that of a good looking female getting involved with a rich old man on deathbed for his inheritance

[steel stirrup]

We see Eris' face but he still kept Lady Red Hair's face hidden

Even after she "died"

[potent pier]

Shakky is beautiful man!

[ornate tartan]

idk what the people in universe seeing because gloriosa and shakky look very alike😂

[frozen aspen]

Well his taste in woman is even worse so there is that

[steel stirrup]

She ight

[ashen perch]

She has to be super important, I am going with Joyboy's descendant because the resemblance between Shanks and Joyboy's silhouettes have been pointed out over the years. Plus it would tie into Shanks being the child of destiny.

[winter comet]

Wait so who really is the baddest in the verse

[potent pier]

Fixed

[lofty fern]

Shakky is canonically the most beautiful woman in the history of Planet Blue

[fossil mortar]

gloriosa better

[winter comet]

If not boa or shakky

[steel stirrup]

Its all opinion

That being said Young LinLin

[fossil mortar]

young bm better than boa or shakky

[winter comet]

Bruh Gloriosa was good for one panel only after that

[potent pier]

She fucking wrecked the world economy when news of her kidnapping happened

[winter comet]

The one panel where Gloriosa posed

[steel stirrup]

Thats them niggas in that world

[fossil mortar]

don't care she was a baddie

[frigid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/ababa-gif-9361961961253142287

[graceful grove]

Robin. dodging multiple buster calls since a child

[ornate tartan]

nami is one of them for sure

[steel stirrup]

I got Sandersonia up there

[potent pier]

And she's gay!

[frigid gulch]

Is Rocks chopped

[steel stirrup]

Ulti

[winter comet]

I see the vision but

[potent pier]

Boa to me.

[steel stirrup]

Yamato

Black Maria

[winter comet]

Black Maria a baddie fr

[steel stirrup]

Stussy

[fossil mortar]

yamato and black maria fs

[potent pier]

Yamato identifies as a guy though

[steel stirrup]

Cowboy Hat Nico Robin

[steel stirrup]

Guess that makes me gay

[graceful grove]

her being a CD = down the list

[frozen aspen]

Don't open this can of worms

[ruby moat]

Y’all remember when Sanji went toe to toe with kaido

[winter comet]

Yo doll is kinda bad

[frozen aspen]

please

[fossil mortar]

^^^^^

[steel stirrup]

Doll is very bad

[steel stirrup]

STOP

I saw that shit too

😭

[formal wagon]

yeah doll sucks

[frozen aspen]

doll gets negative aura for being a marine lapdog and loosing to bonney

[ornate tartan]

Doll is overrated

[ruby moat]

😂 tjat dude is off his rocker

[winter comet]

She has advanced buso haki tho

[graceful grove]

d hole is overrated

[steel stirrup]

Not just Kaido

Bloodlusted Kaido😭😭

[formal wagon]

when she has advanced buso haki 😍

[winter comet]

Like if u a baddie and a bum ahh vice admiral and u have advanced haki in the big 2025

[frozen aspen]

90% of all VA are fodders in the new world

[rose rune]

yes

[steel stirrup]

Doll got fucked up by a 12 year old but she did one tap a PX9

[ruby moat]

I got him to say it

Let’s go

[winter comet]

Gang how is Gion and Tsuru similar in age

[steel stirrup]

Damn did you used the Force on that mf

[winter comet]

Tsuru looks like docterine levels of oldness

[fossil mortar]

lilith is pretty good

[steel stirrup]

Young Tsuru is a baddie too

[ruby moat]

Nah I said “Bb loses to luffy, zoro, Sanji, jinbei, robin, Nami, and usopp” and the mf goes “agreed”

[potent pier]

Okay i do need to ask, who translated the SBS?

[steel stirrup]

Lillith is cute

[frozen aspen]

post ts Saobody luffy could have done that too

[fallen meteor]

it's just that it would explain his two fruits, she eats the gura under that black tarp and since she's 'on his body' he can use both, but it's two souls so nobody explodes.
we dont ever ever see blackbeard's back too. He always has some sort of coat or shirt over his back/shoulders/top of his arms
it would not be an absorption thing too, they planned it. Maybe she forced him? idk. But it's an extreme they have achieved to make the plan work.
It would make him highly resistant/immune to domi reversi, it makes him have two fruits, it protects them both.
Could even explain why he doesnt sleep, she assumes control or some shit like that.
But the only "evidence" is her being alive after GV and we never being able to see BB's back. We even have a big "scene" about whitebeard's back near the black tarp gura steal thing too.
It's fueled 100% on madness

[fossil mortar]

valid

[winter comet]

Only her side profile

She looks kinda cross eyed icl…

[ornate tartan]

her granddaughter looks better

the one in Sword

[frozen aspen]

her granddaughter ugly

[steel stirrup]

fueled on madness

Those are the best ones, I love it.

[steel stirrup]

A tad cockeyed sure

[steel stirrup]

Nah Kujaku is cute

[tulip turtle]

didn't notice earlier but who is this dude?

[fossil mortar]

aura farmer

[steel stirrup]

Looks like Roger

[digital magnet]

looks like Loger

[hot cairn]

there’s a new SBS?

[fossil mortar]

could be rogeer

[potent pier]

Yes

[ornate tartan]

that’s Ask D Question

[tulip turtle]

if it was some random npc then damn

[steel stirrup]

Rocks is up in the sky in this panel so I think its Roger

Could be WB but he would have his Naginata

[potent pier]

Where do you think we learnt about queen and franky being related?

[digital magnet]

random npc wouldnt stand this close to Imu

[steel stirrup]

I think its Roger

[winter comet]

Rear admiral isuka putting marines on the map

[fallen meteor]

they both were there on gv. She knows what rocks was capable off, she saw what happened to him, how he looked.
If she plans this it makes sense, it's an extreme nobody would expect and Imu specially would not too - this is why it would work on him

[steel stirrup]

Eris is the real villain i can dig that

It would also help with BBs extreme personalities

[formal wagon]

rear admiral freakbob

[fallen meteor]

why it works

[brittle basin]

Bandaid Nami

[formal wagon]

rear admiral kaiod

[fallen meteor]

i feel like one of those bloodborne guys that know too much

[steel stirrup]

Even if its not that exactly it may go in that direction

Seems to be anyway

[formal wagon]

rear admiral larimda raer

[steel stirrup]

The way BB cam switch between being cunning and dumb, brave and cowardly

Makes sense

[winter comet]

Yo why is Eris lowk bipolar

[steel stirrup]

I like that theory anyway because it adds to the mystery of BB

One of his personalities actually thought of the WB pirates as family

[fossil mortar]

BB probably got some wild shit

[steel stirrup]

Thats why he was able to fool them for 20 plus years

He wasn't acting at all

But then the Yami comes aboard and the other guys takes over

[digital magnet]

something is going on with BB that still has yet to be explained

especially that not sleeping part

[winter comet]

No coz Blackbeard was fully ready to die a bum on Wb crew before yami yami no mi came

[steel stirrup]

Even if Eris isn't alive anymore I do hope that BB does have multiple souls

At least multiple personalities

[potent pier]

People on r/onespiecespoilers failed to understand how much of a pothole that part is

[winter comet]

This was resolved like 2 hours ago

[digital magnet]

well what other mentality should he have?

he basically said: "If I'll find it, awesome shit, if not so be it, then it's bad luck"

he has shown that kind of thinking few times

[steel stirrup]

Its feasible to believe that they had to make stops traveling from Sorbet to Mariejois when they enslaved Clapps family

We just don't know where

[winter comet]

Exaggerating but yk

[lofty fern]

It would be cool. Shanks and Sham being Joyboy's descendants.

Though I wouldn't be surprised if Roger or Garp are

[winter comet]

Blackbeard deserves all his current achievements lowk like he stayed 30 years on a ship stayed low profile for his goals

[digital magnet]

So far I feel like Roger and Garp are yeah . . .

[lofty fern]

I'm telling you if Garp and Roger end up related, I wouldn't be surprised at all

[ashen perch]

yea, would be another way he is contrasting with Blackbeard. He descends from Davy and Shanks descends from Joyboy himself.

[winter comet]

I’d like to think joyboy wasn’t moving like Alexander the Great or genghis khan and having children passing on his will to his descendants

[frozen aspen]

cringe but its oda so

[ashen perch]

I feel like Garp and Roger were atleast like Ace and Luffy in their childhoods

[frozen aspen]

I think they meet as teens at most

[winter comet]

Roger was too young

[ocean sigil]

I just read a theory

[ashen perch]

true

[digital magnet]

not everything

[ashen perch]

not really

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/everything-reaction-meme-gif-23306023

[winter comet]

Wait no Garp and Roger are the same age basically off by a year

[ocean sigil]

That said that Luffys mom is a direct descendant of Calgara and that Luffy carries Calgaras will and fulfilled it by ringing the bell

[lofty fern]

I don't see a big connection between them currently. Garling didn't even kill Eris, which I was waiting for

[digital magnet]

[ashen perch]

Garp is 78, Roger would be 77 now if he was alive

yea

[digital magnet]

damn

[formal wagon]

garp

[hot cairn]

Oda confirmed Franky is Queen’s son?? LMAOOO

[trim lily]

just for fun

[hot cairn]

they might meet again

[formal wagon]

whats so darn funny

[ocean sigil]

No...

[ashen perch]

wait I am checking the world timeline on the wiki now and wow

[formal wagon]

neo mads

[digital magnet]

really?

[ashen perch]

they actually went out of their way to add ALL the years to EVERYTHING

[brittle basin]

Oda forgot to make Queen and Franky fight in Wano

[formal wagon]

wow wow wubzie

[hot cairn]

@digital magnet

[winter comet]

What are the odds Roger has his straw hat out of coincidence

[hot cairn]

I’ve been reading the SBS now, I didn’t catch them yesterday

[ashen perch]

really cool

[formal wagon]

53%

[winter comet]

Or u reckon he knew something about the straw hat

[digital magnet]

ewwwww

[blazing depot]

Who was born in 1467

[winter comet]

Before he became a pirate

[formal wagon]

4064 ah years

[digital magnet]

chinjao even

[ashen perch]

he knew something atleast, his goal was to turn the world upside down after all

[winter comet]

Wait so when was harald born again

[blazing depot]

67

[formal wagon]

67

6ix 7even

[frozen aspen]

67

[trim lily]

shoutout to boodle

[lofty fern]

Hey, at least it's not as bad as how Star Wars does their time lines

[winter comet]

Harald being 140 at death hmm

[ashen perch]

so the Palace of Alubarna was built in 100 AH, wonder what happened in 0 AH

[formal wagon]

oh i was just making a pun not criticizing anything

[winter comet]

Harald and doctrine same age basically

[formal wagon]

vira was founded

[sage temple]

Whitebeard is only 11 years older than Loki

Weird how age scaling works

[formal wagon]

11 is a lot of years

[subtle meteor]

So if the void century is forbidden history, why isn't the history before then forbidden?

[tranquil blade]

Not for a giant

[frozen aspen]

not to a giant lol

[subtle meteor]

Surely people could learn something from like 905 years ago lol

[trim lily]

theres stuff they wanted to hide in that period

[tranquil blade]

For a giant that's not even 4 years

[trim lily]

joyboy, davy, imu, etc

[formal wagon]

thats like 4 years

[winter comet]

Damn 60 year old Loki was asking out 17 year old Lola

[lofty fern]

He's older since she's only 141 years old now. where as Harald died more than a decade ago

[tranquil blade]

Less than 4

[frozen aspen]

why would the time before be? Whatever imu wants to hide is in the void century specifically

[formal wagon]

exactly

[tranquil blade]

but more than 3

[formal wagon]

you're starting to catch on

[winter comet]

Bruh Lola was 12 when Loki proposed to her

[formal wagon]

no shot thats real

[winter comet]

Lord

Yes she got proposed to 14 years ago she’s currently 26

[tranquil blade]

Oda might have to retcon some stuff

[urban lodge]

That's not true

[trim lily]

no she wasnt

the timeline is messed up right now

[late compass]

the problem is that theres probably no history books about that time period. the only reason we know anything about the void century is because the poneglyphs are indestructible

[subtle meteor]

So I assume the ancient kingdom of that period barely last like 50 years? If all info about it fits in one century lol

[frozen aspen]

was it actually 14 yesrs ago?

[trim lily]

no

[frozen aspen]

u are assuming he proposed before harald's death then

[sage temple]

One Piece fan confidently saying something so blatantly wrong

😭

[lofty fern]

It depends on when she was proposed to. It's between 14 years ago and 6 years ago

[winter comet]

Nah

[frozen aspen]

which dosn't have to be the cas

[trim lily]

unless you want to say pudding is 2 here

[tranquil blade]

It was probably somewhere between 14 and 6 years ago

[sage temple]

Lola would likely be 16 or more when Loki proposed

[sweet anvil]

She looks about 5

[winter comet]

Hmm

So 15-17

Ewww

[formal wagon]

its lokiover

[sweet anvil]

Loki tried marrying a 15 year old

[tranquil blade]

I'd say it was around 8-10 years ago

[sage temple]

Cool

[subtle meteor]

I assume 16 because it's always that age with One Piece

[ashen perch]

Lola was atleast 16 I am sure lol

[frozen aspen]

true every princess is 16

[ruby moat]

LOKI DID WHAT

[sweet anvil]

Ok so she was 16

[blazing depot]

Socrates defend your goat

Defend your goat!!

[sage temple]

There's nothing to defend

That's fine

[winter comet]

Belo Betty age gotta get retconned too

[lofty fern]

She is 26 today, so 6 years ago she would have been 20, So she had to be between 12 and 20

[urban lodge]

How old is Lola now?

Oh

[trim lily]

26

[ruby moat]

All that Sanji slander coming back to u Socrates (idk if u slander Sanji I assume u do)

[winter comet]

The crew is gonna have two nonces

[tranquil blade]

She was probably 16-18 when Loki proposed

[sage temple]

I just did not

😭

[hot cairn]

seeing Loki fall in love with Lola will be so funny in the flashback

[ruby moat]

Well ima pretend u did

[trim lily]

that makes pudding's age make more sense during the flashback

[sage temple]

Ok

[hot cairn]

if Oda decides to show that at least

[trim lily]

he better

ive been looking forward to it

[sage temple]

Lola being 16 at the age of marriage isn't a bad thing anyways

[tranquil blade]

I still think Oda is weird with using the age 16 but it is consistent with other stuff in the manga

[formal wagon]

lola landed on thriller bark 5 years ago, she's 26 now.

[sweet anvil]

socrates we need answers

[ruby moat]

WOAHH

[sweet anvil]

The proof is there

[urban lodge]

Uh oh

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-shaking-head-speed-shaking-head-speed-clapping-hands-gif-7797247252281441694

[ornate tartan]

💀

[hot cairn]

the Rocks section is almost over we might be back with Harald and Loki by chapter 1167

[winter comet]

Loki been locked up for 6 years

[tranquil blade]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-i-show-speed-speed-stream-speed-thinking-gif-4948168091398377042

[sick dust]

https://tenor.com/view/easter-doe-eating-deer-eating-popcorn-funny-gif-4621167703268332056

[lofty fern]

Now if Loki DID propose to Lola while he was still prince and his dad was still alive, then yes she would be 12 or less

[sage temple]

One Piece fans when a japanese author uses japanese ages of consent

😭

It's not a bad thing at all

[winter comet]

That’s what I mean like he was still a prince at the time

[ornate tartan]

bro she was 12

[hot cairn]

if Oda does show Loki’s life after the Harald incident this flashback might be 20 chapters long😭 😭

[frozen aspen]

ur being baited blud

[subtle meteor]

The flashback will presumably end with the event of Harald's death and not extend past to showing Loki's time out at sea. So I don't think we'll see Lola

[urban lodge]

I'm sure it was after he left Elbaf

[pulsar path]

Sooo did robin tink that croc could take kaido?

[hot cairn]

why wouldn’t we see it tho

[tranquil blade]

Do you think just because it's Japansese law that it's morally fine

[frozen aspen]

noone thinks loki is a creep the guy was teen himself

[lofty fern]

So it's okay for Loki but not Sanji? hmmm 😏

[sage temple]

Yes because he is japanese

[ruby moat]

It’s ok for Loki bc Loki is cool and big hammer and aura

[sage temple]

The morals there are different than morals here

[winter comet]

How would big mom get elbaphs power if Loki proposed less than 14 years ago he was a criminal when harald died

[wraith mantle]

if japan's age of consent was 13 would you still be ok?

[ruby moat]

I don’t tyink this is the right answer

[trim lily]

this had to have been after loki 'killed' harald so poor big mom wouldnt have gotten an alliance either way

loki just lied

[tranquil blade]

In this case it isnt too big of a deal since Loki would be like 18 in giant years but regardless

[sage temple]

If a country had an age of consent at 21 does that mean every author using 18 is a horrible person

[frozen aspen]

that's the thing she didn't know loki was a fugitive

[tough dust]

god there is so much left in this elbaf flashback lol

[sage temple]

L bait tho

[pulsar path]

Watch us find out it was a fake Loki

[lofty fern]

Strange how Loki somehow has supporters

[ruby moat]

I think the best thing to say with this discussion is “if it was written in America she’d be 18”

[urban lodge]

He probably had a crew

[trim lily]

im willing to believe at least some giants came with him

[ruby moat]

Which is likely true

[trim lily]

ones that didnt like harald

[sage temple]

Kinda the implication

[pulsar path]

Like this is why I think Oda never planned to go to elbaph

[sick dust]

Idk what big mom was thinking tbh.Elbaf seems to already shifted to a peaceful route

[pulsar path]

Yeah but Oda didn't write that yet

[frozen aspen]

Loki could have gome out of his way to recruit giants outside of Elbaf we know they exist

[ornate tartan]

i don’t think he did initially

[lofty fern]

What giants would be willing to be on his crew after Harald?

[winter comet]

No I mean he lost his prince status 14 years ago

[sage temple]

Not sure what to do when I'm getting baited

Baiting was bannable they said

[wraith mantle]

its not bannable

[brittle basin]

bait back?

[sweet anvil]

Lowkey I think it’s just a pothole

[wraith mantle]

arsal baits quite a bit

[sick dust]

If that were true then he would be throwing away Ussop’s build up entirely

[sweet anvil]

And oda didn’t plan that far

[tranquil blade]

There has to be some giants who are social outcasts besides just Loki

[pulsar path]

He definitely didnt but no one believed me or the hard evidence! Are you a believer ?

[trim lily]

giants that didnt agree with harald's progressive policies

[urban lodge]

Criminals and outcasts maybe

[sweet anvil]

Wait what

[winter comet]

Yh it’s gonna get retconned for sure

[tranquil blade]

Who would have nowhere else to really go

[sick dust]

From little garden and Enis lobby

[sage temple]

I'd rather not drop down to their level

[brittle basin]

arsal baits and bullies. i'm still recovering

[hot cairn]

why are the giants rejoicing if this was after Loki presumably killed Harald

[sweet anvil]

I can’t bait anymore

[pulsar path]

Yeah what build up usopp just got drunk that was the build up

[distant vine]

Maybe to some. Law and morality arent tied like that so you cant say for sure. Though I think if most people criticize Oda in the case of One Piece I'm cool with that

[frozen aspen]

@lofty fern

[brittle basin]

no one can stoop as low as the Queen

[winter comet]

Because belo betty is 12 in this

[lofty fern]

I feel like we would have met them

[trim lily]

not really

we've seen only one village in elbaf lol

[hot cairn]

yeah, we might get to 2026 still in the flashback lol

[blazing depot]

Let’s change the topic

[sage temple]

Yeah that's what I lowkey want for him

[pulsar path]

Personally I think elbaph was going to be the last chapter like there hurrah at the the end

[blazing depot]

This is getting weird

[ruby moat]

Oda def planned to go to Elbaf the whole “I wasn’t going to but the crew made me :P” is just Oda being goofy

[lofty fern]

Loki didn't seem to believe in the whole uniting giants idea. In fact he rejected it

[trim lily]

yeah thinking oda wouldnt go to elbaf is genuinely insane

[hot cairn]

again, I think that’s not possible

[pulsar path]

But yeah Robin though that croc could sneak I to wano or something?

[trim lily]

it was one of the islands he'd set up the most

[fallen meteor]

dude Oda loves vikings

[sage temple]

Yeah as a kid

[brittle basin]

the flashback might end before 2026 but it's pushing it. knowing Oda with his addiction to numbers he'll end the flashback on the final week of the year and it'll have some stupid symbolic meaning

[sage temple]

😭

[fallen meteor]

i'd say Elbaf was one of the first he planned

[golden valley]

Ive slowly come to realize op fans just aren’t real

[pulsar path]

It really is you can tell a lot of elbaph already is impromptu

[sage temple]

I wonder what Loki's concept would look like

I hope it gets released

[lofty fern]

He also rejects it now. Remember his comments to Hajrudin about outsiders

[trim lily]

we know what loki's concept looked like

[winter comet]

Elbaph egghead fish man island everything else is improv

[frozen aspen]

Really? I thought loki was mostly against uniting with the WG not other Giants. Besides I think it would do him some good if he was forced to work with other giants during his time on the sea

[sage temple]

I'll have to wait at least a few years after tho

[trim lily]

this was loki lol

then oda changed his mind

[blazing depot]

Fatty

[winter comet]

Everyone hates Loki

[frozen aspen]

damn he let himself go here

[blazing depot]

Maybe he had a weight gain phase

[sweet anvil]

Socrates would you be a Loki fan if he looked like what this silhouette makes him look like

[fallen meteor]

imagine oda makes Loki really fat after he kills Harald

[trim lily]

its all the guilt he took on

[tranquil blade]

Did he also shrink to about 1/6th his normal height

[pulsar path]

Like oda ant this messy and he's cleaning it up nicely but you can tell he's kind apiecing this together to make elbaph fit

[urban lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/loki-loki-one-piece-one-piece-prince-crown-gif-2482972197937608724

[lofty fern]

Remember, he got on Ida because she wasn't from Elbaph. He thinks all the giants out there are too peaceful and that they should be back to the ways that other giants call barbaric

[trim lily]

:(

poor loki

[tranquil blade]

This silhoutte only gets funnier with each passing chapter

Like that's not the same guy

[pulsar path]

And tbh I bet the non elbaph pirates are more interesting Ida and Saul are the best

[trim lily]

what if he looks exactly like it

somehow

[pulsar path]

What if it's his devil fruits form

[sage temple]

It's not like Loki is stopping outsiders from saving Elbaph he just thinks it's ridiculous they can save it yet he can't save it even though it's his home country

[lofty fern]

I'm beginning to think this is going to turn out to be some other giant using Loki's name. He looks nothing like him lol

[sage temple]

So not really

[frozen aspen]

he also thinks humams are weak and puny but apparently proposed to lola. A human with who is definitely nearly as strong as rocks

[urban lodge]

There's a theory that it was Rodo impersonating Loki lol

[sage temple]

The use of "rather" makes it seem like it's an either/or than him saving the land together

[winter comet]

it seems it wasn’t blatantly wrong 🤷🏾‍♂️

[trim lily]

i really hope that is just loki

so much more interesting

[urban lodge]

I think it's just him yeah

[pulsar path]

This is 🔥

[fallen meteor]

Lola is THAT strong????

😮

[pulsar path]

Are you oda ?

[sage temple]

This was 10 minutes ago twin let it go

[pulsar path]

We can be oda together

[frozen aspen]

I don't think we should take 5 year old loki's opinion and assume that's what he still believes at 21

[lofty fern]

Loki thinks the people of Elbaph are far too weak. Imagine what he thinks of the actual peaceful giants of the rest of the world

[blazing depot]

Booktok vs Agenda Piece war is inevitable and gonna be crazy

[winter comet]

Well as long as u understand ur goofy mistake 🤙😭

[sage temple]

Yes I would

[urban lodge]

I know who I'm rooting for

[fallen meteor]

holy shit we will get booktok people joining the server maybe

imagine

[trim lily]

i havent seen booktok but ill take it any day over the whole agenda culture

[brittle basin]

let's bully them

[frozen aspen]

or even 16. He spend 8 years on the sea. Harald learned a lot while traveling. It's not tha backwards too assume that loki learned a thing or twoo too even if he still appears too act like a selfish peick

[sage temple]

Just trying to engage I guess 😭 you're right and I'm wrong twin you win

[sweet anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-oh-really-lies-why-you-always-lying-stop-lying-gif-7432913009127585308

[winter comet]

W scrolling the camera roll for that one

[pulsar path]

Is queens name cutty scion?

[formal wagon]

🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆i win

[lofty fern]

I mean he says the exact same things so it doesn't seem like he's mellowed yet

[frozen aspen]

where?

[formal wagon]

flam

[sage temple]

Why ask the question in the first place if you're not going to accept a yes

[pulsar path]

I think that's franksy first name?

[trim lily]

man i forgot queen's name is scien

[lofty fern]

Cutty Scion. I guess so

[frozen aspen]

I was under the assumption his takes were a little less extreme in the present time

[pulsar path]

I'm upset they didn't meet now

[trim lily]

guy named scien grows up to be a scientist

[formal wagon]

yeah in english his name would be flam cutty

[trim lily]

goda

[frozen aspen]

maybe i remember wrong

[sweet anvil]

Because WE only fw Loki because he’s cool and has aura

[winter comet]

Cutty scien

[subtle meteor]

Queen's last name is Ce. Scien Ce

[winter comet]

Sciencutty

[sage temple]

Lola does seem like Rodo's type

[pulsar path]

Yeah so thank I think queens name is cutty scion!???

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jordan-no-no-no-tik-tok-tiktok-gif-10008636557488486936

[lofty fern]

Good think Franky never goes by his real name lol

[formal wagon]

ohhhhh i read wrong i'm so sorry you're right

[urban lodge]

Franky made a really good choice

[sweet anvil]

Aura > character writing get with the times gang

[formal wagon]

cutty flam is a funny name

[urban lodge]

Cutty Flam is certainly a name

[sage temple]

Anyway tho I'm excited to see Loki's crew assuming he even has one

[pulsar path]

I mean I think you thought I was talking. About frank boy so you kidna were right too just wrong context 🤣

[trim lily]

who up cutting they flam

[formal wagon]

yeah i was lol, my bad

[pulsar path]

It's alllll gooooood

[sage temple]

I also wonder if ancient giant blooded ppl exist in other countries

[lofty fern]

Now who is Franky's mom...Stussy?

[trim lily]

probably not

[sweet anvil]

Probably a random

1 relevant parent is enough

[stone terrace]

Is frankies mom dead y/n

[trim lily]

probably

[winter comet]

I don’t imagine queen picking someone out of love

He prolly js busted and got baby trapped

[lofty fern]

They were hanging out and if you squint, Queen looks like WB

[sage temple]

True he aint bb

[winter comet]

Like how dragon was an accident

[sweet anvil]

Bro ?

How hard are you squinting

[winter comet]

But we know luffy can’t be an accident because of how much his father cares

[winter comet]

His eyes are closed he just imagining

[ornate tartan]

dragon doesn’t seem like the kind of guy to have a child on accident

[lofty fern]

Stussy was on a drunk bender because WB kept rejecting her

[pulsar path]

Vivi bad time line is dress in CD clothing

[sage temple]

I feel like that's his only option to have a child

He calls children weaknesses

[lofty fern]

I feel like all of the Monkey family were accidents

[sage temple]

So I don't imagine him having a kid on purpose

[lofty fern]

No one planned that

[sweet anvil]

She was hallucinating so much she saw Queen as whitebeard 😭

Wait what if weevil is a lab baby

[hot cairn]

it really doesn’t feel that impromptu tho

[sweet anvil]

And somehow queens dna got involved

[wet condor]

Garp and Dragon weren't planned yeah

[sweet anvil]

But it was meant to be whitebeards

[wet condor]

Can just tell

Luffy either

[winter comet]

Damn kinda crazy how rocks told harald about his child because he knows harald understands the father aspect of life

[wet condor]

Any of the other Monkey Ds who we don't know about idk

[winter comet]

Like how harald rushed back home because Loki was injured

[lofty fern]

It was a long night

[trim lily]

rocks wasnt married then lol

[urban lodge]

Young Judge is so funny

[trim lily]

oh wait nevermind

misread

[pulsar path]

It does in the way that lokis design changed and characters an storulines are shifting even god valley is being retcon multiple times and at different points too

[sage temple]

!speedreader

[tropic nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/164971940648321024/535148418100887562/Lightspeedread.png

[sweet anvil]

“Lodestar arc soon” 💔

[hot cairn]

Loki’s design changing doesn’t mean the arc was never going to happen, what about God Valley is being retconned tho?

[sweet anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-funny-hood-just-let-it-go-bruh-its-over-gif-2300031300461303277

[sage temple]

Rocks did seem like a fatherfigure giving Loki tough love

[hot cairn]

Oda only said he thought of a way around Elbaph, doesn’t mean it wasnt planned

[sage temple]

I wonder if Rocks knows about Estrid

[lofty fern]

Garp couldn't plan a kid if he tried. Luffy would be the same. Dragon I think he just had night of passion and it happened and he didn't even realize

[winter comet]

Wait I remember rocks stabbing ts out of Loki tho 😭😭

[trim lily]

tough love ie. attacking a child with a sword

[sage temple]

Extremely tough love

[sweet anvil]

I wonder how many other ancient giant families there are

[pulsar path]

What gods knights were present, how many cheta were on display, Rogers mustaash

[sage temple]

[hard fulcrum]

Nothing about God Valley has been retconned. We'd heard gossip and that was it. No narration, no on the ground perspectives... those all line up now we have them.

[lofty fern]

Wasn't he just trying to get Harald home?

[winter comet]

Bro Garp literally enlisted at 23 — this was the same time dragon was conceived

[trim lily]

the first time yeah

[winter comet]

He just celebrated getting enlisted

[pulsar path]

The chest and Roger mustach

[sage temple]

Attacking Loki with a sword = Giving a kid the belt

[winter comet]

And ended up having a child

[stone terrace]

Imagine the next chapter starts with the aftermath lmao

[sage temple]

Thiv said Rocks understood the father aspect of life

[lofty fern]

https://tenor.com/view/oda-laugh-oda-eiichiro-oda-one-piece-laugh-oda-author-gif-17054689416837940014

[pulsar path]

God valley has definitely had some retcons

[sage temple]

And I was thinking about Loki trying to join Rocks' crew

[sweet anvil]

Loki fell like 10,000 metres as a newborn its probably the equivalent of discipline to him

[hard fulcrum]

Ah. I'm okay with that tbh. Artistic mistake for one (the chests) and then probably just 'cause he wanted Roger to look different from the last long Roger-heavy flashback.

[sage temple]

Dolfius just makes Loki sound like a regular kid for bait

😭

[hot cairn]

that doesn’t mean God Valley wasn’t supposed to happen either

[sage temple]

What a dweeb

[urban lodge]

And Rocks is just a regular guy

[trim lily]

yeah true rocks mustve been aware of baby loki's feats before attacking him

[hard fulcrum]

He 100% ran away from the baby momma, lol.

[winter comet]

I would be fine with it just showing the aftermath if this was a r18 manga

[sweet anvil]

Wait I just realised Loki was older than kaido at the time of GV

[runic dock]

Loki challenged him that time tbf , rocks just didn’t hold back against a kid and that was messed up in wb’s eyes

[lofty fern]

Both parts of GV were standing in the original design, obviously that has been changed

[sweet anvil]

That’s so weird

[sage temple]

You don't know?

Rocks reads One Piece

That happened like 5 chapters before the stabbing

[runic dock]

Not in human years tho

[sage temple]

Smh my head

[subtle meteor]

I thought that pic with mustache Roger seeing baby Shanks was fanart lol

[sweet anvil]

Yeah ik

[wraith mantle]

rocks is a regular good guy

[sweet anvil]

Just feels weird

[trim lily]

the popular one is

[runic dock]

It’s sketch art that fans completed

[trim lily]

but its based on a sketch (that also includes the stache)

[sage temple]

If he was the same maturity as Kaido he would've been on GV

[hot cairn]

guys what would you rate this arc out of 10 so far?

[sage temple]

He really was born in the wrong era

[pulsar path]

I never said that but I bet it wasn't originally going to be on elbaph I feel like and course either don't have proof but that lokis involvement with rocks and xebec with Harold was a larger edition to the story

[subtle meteor]

Oh, I've never seen the sketch one

[sage temple]

10

[trim lily]

probably 7.5/10

[winter comet]

How old is rocks in human years

[trim lily]

good question

[lofty fern]

I'm not even sure how old Loki is now, 10?

[winter comet]

22

[sage temple]

21

[runic dock]

We’re still really early into the arc

[brittle basin]

easy 8 due to lore

[runic dock]

Don’t have a score

[sweet anvil]

If Loki was the monarch of elbaf at the time and like 10 giant years older rocks would’ve succeeded fr

[runic dock]

[lofty fern]

In the flashback

[tranquil blade]

Loki is a few years older than Kaido yeah

[winter comet]

21 year old joining straw hat crew nice

[hot cairn]

Idk man, it doesn’t feel like Oda is improvising this arc. He probably made some changes yes but that doesn’t mean this arc was never supposed to happen

[pulsar path]

Colin is 21

[sweet anvil]

He’s 63 in human years but 21 physically

[winter comet]

Is5 in human years

[sage temple]

8

[hot cairn]

early? It’s been 40 chapters

[urban lodge]

Main arc is a 10/10, the flashback is like a 5/10

[winter comet]

Oh 7 in human years

[tranquil blade]

It can't be that bad...

[runic dock]

Now subtract the flashback chapters I said what I said

[sage temple]

Dude hates Rocks with every inch of ur soul

[trim lily]

im still dissapointed by the lack of exploration in the main arc

[hard fulcrum]

Given all the 'Shanks in a treasure chest' stuff, something was definitely planned for a while.

[pulsar path]

I mean that's a contradiction in its self. It can't be planned and improvisation and I mean oda literally said we weren't. Going there but I guess we are! And it's even backed up by a dude that worked with oda and shit

[winter comet]

The rocks fights absolutely suck

[urban lodge]

Everyone forgets that 5/10 is average smh

[lofty fern]

Ah, they really do grow slowly don't they

[pulsar path]

There is evidence that elbaph might not been planned

[trim lily]

6 is the new average nowadays

[hoary steppe]

Average penny fb rate

[sage temple]

I think Loki's appearance might've been an improvisation

[runic dock]

That’s an F on a test

It’s honestly worse than you think

[hot cairn]

LOL fair enough

[pulsar path]

That's a retcon

[lofty fern]

Imagine being Rocks and 5 years later and you're like "Why are you still the same age?!"

[sage temple]

Yeah

[frozen aspen]

5 and below is mid

[hot cairn]

I don’t mind

[pulsar path]

Unless it's not the same Loki

[winter comet]

they should explain how rocks is so strong

[brittle basin]

In the US, below a 7/C/70% is failing, that's how we view things.

[trim lily]

magic

[runic dock]

5 and below is literally an F on any test

[hot cairn]

yeah

[sage temple]

I guess

[trim lily]

people in one piece can just be born absurdly strong

[urban lodge]

Well good thing this is not a test

[tranquil blade]

Well unless there's a curve

[lofty fern]

Like they stay a 1 year old for 3 years!

[hot cairn]

Oda didn’t say that tho, that’s the thing

[runic dock]

It’s scored exactly like one

So yes it’s really bad

[fallen meteor]

he's so good that the cells of his body are good too or something like that

[frozen aspen]

lok should be about 8 rn

[pulsar path]

I mean it's just so different than the other design but same thing happen to kaido

[winter comet]

Yh but what about the haki feats and allat and how he killed an admiral 56 years ago

[sweet anvil]

5/10 would mean you think this is probably like bottom 20% lf one piece arcs

[hoary steppe]

Wasn’t baby oden is gambling addict ? Or was it a kidcone

[trim lily]

probably

[pulsar path]

He had a harem

[tranquil blade]

It was Oden

[hot cairn]

if Elbaph wasn’t supposed to happen, where would’ve we gone to after Egghead?

[winter comet]

Not rlly if 5/10 is in the 50%

[sage temple]

Loki looked a little chubby in other appearances too

[hoary steppe]

[fallen meteor]

straight to vira

[brittle basin]

5/10 is not a good score. But this is in the eyes of Americans. I don't know how other countries view a 5/10 when it comes to test scores

[frozen aspen]

final destination

[runic dock]

So for me , 8 is about average , less than 8 is C tier

[trim lily]

thats crazy

[frozen aspen]

ok earl

[urban lodge]

Lol

[pulsar path]

It could be a mid evaluation like warturtleeee

[brittle basin]

8 is great. that a solid passing score

[sweet anvil]

Most one piece arcs are a cool 6-7.5/10 for me so not really

[brittle basin]

7 is good

[lofty fern]

Well we've seen babies in OP, most of them act as normal babies. Ones like Oden or Loki are aberrations

[fallen meteor]

do you publish a gaming magazine

[runic dock]

Yeah average passing grade

[urban lodge]

I think this is a weird way to look at it

[trim lily]

grade inflation moment

[urban lodge]

We're not talking about grades

[runic dock]

Nah this server is the weird one

Touch grass

[hot cairn]

LOL

[urban lodge]

It's a scale

[sweet anvil]

Using school grading for stuff outside of school is weird

[pulsar path]

Water 7/ enis lobby 11/10

[tranquil blade]

Somewhere between 6 and 7 is where I'd say average is to me (not making a joke here) but it should be 5/10

[brittle basin]

i think to the ears of an American though, hearing "average" sounds negative. that's why I use the word "great" instead because getting 80% correct is very good

[fallen meteor]

4/10 message

[hoary steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/rinauchis-cocobearkins-gif-16860191433504714497

[frozen aspen]

I simply use sofascore system

[trim lily]

unfortunately thats the influence of people growing up going to schools, they carry on their view of test scores to other rating scales

[subtle meteor]

I don't think it's a good score either way. That means you don't know half things you're tested on lol

[winter comet]

Oh I thought u rate the worst arc a 1 and rate everything compared to eachother like not a ranking but like long ring being a 1/10 and marineford being a 10/10. therefore a 5/10 would be an average arc like fishman island maybe

[hot cairn]

I think this arc so far is a solid 8 out of 10

[sweet anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/staring-at-each-other-huang4evr-gif-23515088

[trim lily]

50% should be average but cause of how school testing works people view it differently

[sage temple]

This is such a non problem 😭

[lofty fern]

80% is on the cusp of average.

[sweet anvil]

How did we go from the flashback being a 5/10 to this

[lofty fern]

Failure

[frozen aspen]

5 and below=red,bad
6=orange/yellow=ok
7=green,good
8=light blue great
9-10=dark blue, peak

[brittle basin]

I made a video game scoring chart I go by the other day. Maybe that'll help sort out what I mean. One sec.

[pulsar path]

So we should just dona 1-5 scale cus that technically what it is but we greedy so we want extra points for inflation

[fallen meteor]

two sec

[trim lily]

we should score out of 1000 i think

[winter comet]

lol rank every chapter

[sweet anvil]

No

[winter comet]

What is the worst chapter of one piece

[trim lily]

elbaf is a 767/1000

[pulsar path]

Chapter one 12/10

[lofty fern]

The percentage would stay the same

[urban lodge]

Anyway the arc as a whole I'd give like an 8/10 so far

[trim lily]

yeah but people are too lazy to convert\

[fallen meteor]

we should rank every character that appears on each chapter and then give mvps away too @olive sigil

[pulsar path]

Chapter 2 8/10

Every chapter before Zoro is 7/10 till Zoro than 11/10

[sweet anvil]

Wait penny serious question do you think this flashback is on the worse side of one piece arcs

[winter comet]

MVP of most recent chapter is kuma and Imu?

[trim lily]

i think the flashback is like a 6.5/10 for me

[runic dock]

Yeah I take the word average very negatively that’s true

[urban lodge]

It's average, like the score I gave it implies if people could put the school grade mindset aside

[fathom coyote]

Imagine Garp with Ultra Ego

[fallen meteor]

check it out #also-manga message

[winter comet]

I expected moreeee from rocks bruh

[lofty fern]

That would just reduce to 76.7/100

[sweet anvil]

Yeah but more or less for me at least most one piece arcs are above average no ?

[trim lily]

depends on what lens youre viewing it from

[winter comet]

But very glad that we humanized rocks

[subtle meteor]

My only problem with the arc so far is just seeing Gunko wash the strawhats and tie them up. But it's expected at this point lol

Oh and Chopper just got written out

[fallen meteor]

brooo i thought your pfp was straight up ass

[trim lily]

chopper has been pretty active

[winter comet]

Like I expected rocks to be a immovable force compared to kaido big mom

But he just a chill guy

[hazy turret]

No it wouldn’t, if I give it 800/1000 that would be 800%

[urban lodge]

I guess? It's probably below the one piece average, yeah

[subtle meteor]

Well that's a first

[winter comet]

Eh?

[sweet anvil]

Interesting

[fallen meteor]

i can still kinda see a cheek

[subtle meteor]

Well now he's stuck with Gaban down below

[lofty fern]

.... you mean 80%

[sweet anvil]

So like the thriller bark and punk hazard equivalent

[runic dock]

I think we got enough glaze outta him , or do you mean the way he got hit by domi reversi? That’s probably just due to the ability being hack and unknowable

[brittle basin]

This is what I mean. So, when I think something in general is an 8/10, I try to view it as "great" and not use a word like average because average, for whatever reason, seems to come with negative baggage. In this example, however, 6 won't work for test scores because that is actually failing (this was for games).

[urban lodge]

Oh I'm not talking about the arc btw, just the flashback

I think the arc as a whole is very good

[trim lily]

i think the imu stuff in elbaf might drag it down a bit for me

but i adore the knights

[runic dock]

Nothing will ever top kuma flashback even until one piece is over tbh

[sweet anvil]

To me simply because of god valley I think this flashback is a 7.5

[runic dock]

Void century won’t hit like kuma did

[urban lodge]

I think I still like Oden's a little more, but Kuma is probably 2nd for me

[winter comet]

No like I expected like more convincing power he just seems like one punch man rn which is great and all but like nothing explains his extremely overpoweredness

[trim lily]

kuma's flashback was very good for the first 5 chaps

[runic dock]

That’s just like any strong dude , they have haki

[trim lily]

but i think the last couple couldve been condensed a bit more

[runic dock]

That’s fair

[sage temple]

mfs see any type of suffering and call it top 1

[winter comet]

It’s not just haki with rocks he has a weird swordsmanship remember but we aren’t shown how he does it

[sage temple]

So well written

[urban lodge]

Roger laughed is one of my favorite moments in the series

[winter comet]

He just does it

[subtle meteor]

I just remembered Kuma is going to be revived lol

[lofty fern]

To think, GV won't end in the anime until 2028 or even 2029

[trim lily]

yerp

same with stella

[runic dock]

It’s how he stayed true to himself despite all the suffering , he could have easily turned into one of the worst villains of the series but didn’t

[trim lily]

he couldve turned into blackbeard

oh wait thats the implication

[hot cairn]

2027 will be all flashback

[winter comet]

Bruh didn’t he meet Eris like 3 years prior to god valley coz he was lusting after shakky still

[sage temple]

I don't think he's strong enough to turn into something like Blackbeard ngl

Does he even have CoC

[runic dock]

He was easily strong enough by all accounts , raw power and fruit

[winter comet]

You telling me rocks lost his life for someone he met 3 years ago

[sage temple]

Yeah but no Haki

Haki surpasses all

[trim lily]

he has haki

[sage temple]

[winter comet]

Or fell for 3 years ago

[runic dock]

He had haki

[sage temple]

I was ytalking about CoC

Oml

Same thing

[hazy echo]

Adopted moms are still moms

[potent pier]

True

[runic dock]

Not every good villain had CoC

[trim lily]

kuma genuinely could have been a lot scarier with his fruit

pop from island to island and ursus shock

paw people into the ocean

[winter comet]

If ur talking about rocks he has conquerors haki

[fallen meteor]

can he paw just a body part away

[trim lily]

probably

[fallen meteor]

damn

[sage temple]

Can't be much of a villain if you're easy to take care of

[trim lily]

kuma can remove his pain right?

[runic dock]

Bruh

You’re baiting lol

[royal orchid]

when you want to post an amazing image reply but it's other series spoilers

https://tenor.com/view/rage-flip-table-muscle-man-mad-regular-show-gif-17264246

[trim lily]

he could just heal himself mid fight and shove it into his enemy

[sage temple]

I'm just not baiting

If he's not strong he can't really be a memorable villain

[trim lily]

no this is just how socrates views things

[runic dock]

Listen to dolfius

[potent pier]

He's not that guy though

[winter comet]

Rocks Confirmed coc user

[royal orchid]

who's baiting

[sage temple]

Powerscaling matters a lot

[runic dock]

Did you forget croc?

All of pre ts?

Bro what you on about

[winter comet]

Harald rlly the only giant with conquerors haki

[sage temple]

Yeah pre ts was when the protagonist in question was weak

[urban lodge]

I'm more excited about an Enel comeback than ever now after the sbs

[runic dock]

I’m not talking about kuma being a villain RIGJT NOW

[trim lily]

surely

[sage temple]

Same I need some Enel

[hazy echo]

The scariest villains aren’t always the strongest

[runic dock]

kuma as a villain in general in this series

Would have been a massive threat

[urban lodge]

He needs to meet Imu, Oda please

[trim lily]

if enel comes back it has to be int he same span of time as urouge

[sage temple]

If someone gets mad about what I say I'm baiting apparently

[trim lily]

i need to know why urouge went from skypeian to birkan

[sage temple]

Alr

[trim lily]

its so weird

[royal orchid]

what's socrates talking about guys

[potent pier]

I do need to ask, how did Kuma get people to Sorbet?

[hazy echo]

Villains only matter by their strength

[sage temple]

Can Kuma's fruit send people literally anywhere

[brittle basin]

Whorouge?

[winter comet]

He wasn’t a skypian was he? Like since skypia is a specific sky island

[potent pier]

How many islands did his celestial dragon masters took him

[sage temple]

That's kinda what I said

[royal orchid]

he's a god tier navigator or fruit powers

[runic dock]

No it’s like you’re trying to get responses with silly takes , it’s a weird take , I’m not talking about if kuma was dropped in the story right now at this time , but if he was a villain from the beginning

I thought that was clear

[hazy echo]

That was the first thing I saw

[urban lodge]

He probably didn't besides him, Ginny and Iva

[potent pier]

He has to have been there before.

[urban lodge]

Because they had to cross the red line

[trim lily]

he was, he had skypeian wings

and hair (as a kid)

[hazy echo]

He was specially from the same place Enel originally was from iirc

[winter comet]

Ohhh

[sage temple]

Oh wow I never knew that

[potent pier]

So where did he send the rest of them?

[royal orchid]

fundamentalist powerscaling

[hot cairn]

who

[trim lily]

kuma was born on sorbet so i assume he sent most people there

[urban lodge]

I imagine they made some stops along the way

When they were taking him there

[winter comet]

Maybe he knew enel, I mean enel did take off his own wings

[runic dock]

You should read the whole convo

[fallen meteor]

new theory edit

[runic dock]

Before jumping in

[urban lodge]

Some random islands

[hazy echo]

This was what I saw

[potent pier]

Why do you think hims sending Luffy to Amazon Lily is such a big deal still?

[trim lily]

the sky island of sorbet

[sage temple]

You were trying to say he'd be equivalent to Blackbeard just because he tries to get revenge for the people that enslaved him which I disagreed with because he doesn't have the strength or will to do so imo

[winter comet]

Why isn’t there a kid drawing of enel

[stone terrace]

Socrates is right

[royal orchid]

because Enel was always like that

[sage temple]

[trim lily]

hes always been in a weird spot in the world

[sage temple]

Icon I'm never calling Garling Fartling ever again

[trim lily]

not a warlord and not related to anyone else

[potent pier]

He would've least known where he was though

[runic dock]

Yeah and he’s dismissing all of pre ts due to that statement and forgot about croc lol

[stone terrace]

You overestimate how much i care about garling 😭

[sage temple]

Garling is the 2nd GOAT just wait for his Yokai

[runic dock]

Bb existed since pre ts

[frozen aspen]

I don't think Garling has unironic fans

[fallen meteor]

you dont even need to scroll up

[hazy echo]

Yea and I said that the scariest villains aren’t always the strongest

[royal orchid]

does he know

[sage temple]

I overestimate how much everyone cares about their fav character

[fallen meteor]

like its on the screen

[frozen aspen]

icon is doing a bit

[sage temple]

Because I always compare them to me

[winter comet]

Garling lowk kinda cold tho the way he switched up on his baby mama

[sage temple]

😭

[frozen aspen]

[winter comet]

I aspire to be like garling one day

[royal orchid]

[fallen meteor]

bro

[hard fulcrum]

I'm not sure what you mean by 'unironic'. I like Garling as a character (as a person, he's awful). As a character, his awful personality has purpose.

[frozen aspen]

Is that a confesion?

[winter comet]

Heh kidding lolz

[frozen aspen]

sure

[winter comet]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-gif-1878760417600646737

[frozen aspen]

im watching u btw

[scenic dirge]

mid pieec

[frozen aspen]

ye doakes is me

[ornate tartan]

Garling has to be strong for the final saga

[fallen meteor]

so ture

[frozen aspen]

so true, this needs to be a dbz server

[fallen meteor]

[winter comet]

Wait guys what if Oda made garling weak at god valley because dragon was weak at god valley too!!!

[royal orchid]

holy shit Miami Metro homicide sergeant James doakes say the line

[winter comet]

So basically eos they gonna be powerhouses and fight together

[sage temple]

He'll def be strong

[runic dock]

He won’t be

[stone terrace]

Mid piece fans when odass gives bongula tongula a sad backstory (his fish died)

[runic dock]

Just reviving

[winter comet]

😭😭

[sage temple]

😭

Bro he could've been the next Blackbeard bro

[fallen meteor]

bongula tongula is a well written character

[runic dock]

And he won’t need to be strong to accomplish his role

[sage temple]

Bro that's Doflamingo's surpasser you're talking about

[hazy turret]

And then bongula tongula ranks like 127th

[ornate tartan]

why does everyone call him Odalf recently?😂

Oda^

[winter comet]

Christmas coming up

[fallen meteor]

first time hearing this

[ornate tartan]

what does that even mean

[winter comet]

Wait gandalf…?

[runic dock]

Bongula tongula is my favorite character

[stone terrace]

Infamous German leader

[ornate tartan]

not here on twitter

[runic dock]

People like to be different

[ornate tartan]

ohh I had no idea