also-manga

[willow pollen]

Bro that’s like 3 more years

[ashen perch]

Yeah

[pulsar path]

Maybe with Vega punks

[tranquil blade]

A kid being on a pirate crew is pretty dangerous

[willow pollen]

There is no possible ending for Bonney without Kuma

[tranquil blade]

So idk I could see the strawhats not wanting her to sail with them'

[pulsar path]

She was a pirate solo for like 3 years

[glass plume]

Nami wouldn't want her to join them, I think

[willow pollen]

With adults

[glass plume]

she has a sweet spot for kids

[tranquil blade]

Well she wasn't solo but

[ashen perch]

I think the Revos will show up in Elbaf so we can move to VP, Kuma and Bonney all joining up with Dragon properly

[tranquil blade]

She's still a kid

[latent hamlet]

Weren't team straw hats mostly teens pre timeskin

[strong wadi]

#also-manga message @lofty fern just scroll through feeso's messages starting from here (or just search him up in the search bar, that may be easier)

[pulsar path]

Chopper is younger

[ashen perch]

well Chopper was 15

[tranquil blade]

Being a teen close to adulthood is different than being 12

[glass plume]

Bonney is 12 years

she shouldn't have to worry about this massive war

[pulsar path]

Shanks was a babe and so was buggy

[warm cradle]

10 pre ts

[pulsar path]

And it's a manga

[willow pollen]

Oda trying to explain how Bonney as a 12 year old child alone and on a fishing boat managed to go all the way to egghead

Mostly

[tranquil blade]

Well Roger may not care as much about stuff like that but the strawhats probably would

Especially Nami

[urban lodge]

Bonney is simply built different

She has haki at 12

[pulsar path]

Yeah.

She stronger than NamI lol

[glass plume]

she still shouldn't have to bother with being a pirate

[warm cradle]

Btw do we know how buggy ended up w roger pirates?

[pulsar path]

Unless that's what she wants

[glass plume]

she should live somewhere with her father, in peace

[ashen perch]

theres no peace till the EOS tbf

[glass plume]

i'm sure they could find some on the edge of the east blue or something

[willow pollen]

Oda sbs answer
“She imagined a future where she made it to egghead. Although she thought it was an island of people with eggs for heads. That’s why she needed assistance from the strawhats to finally finish the journey”

[glass plume]

hell, move to Foosha

[ashen perch]

no because thats gonna drown

[willow pollen]

Safest place is a giant elephant

[glass plume]

well, move to Skypiea

[willow pollen]

That poops islands

[glass plume]

or Weatheria

[lofty fern]

I mean, we had other people with haki at an earlier age, she just honed hers

[pulsar path]

How come wg has not taken skypia

[lofty fern]

They don't want it

[pulsar path]

Please Imu gets mad at someone saying they were king

[urban lodge]

I can't think of any examples besides Aisa, but it was something she was seemingly born with

[pulsar path]

Some people calling them Selfs gods

[ashen perch]

well Momo is going to have it soon and at a younger age

[latent hamlet]

Imu: the fucks a skypeia? I skipped that arc

[lofty fern]

BM, Ace...momo

[warm cradle]

True,should've said "bitch I'm the GOD of the world"

[urban lodge]

Bm we don't really know

[glass plume]

Momonosuke has some of the most potential in the entire series

like no joke

[pulsar path]

True one-piece fans

[ashen perch]

observation is kinda different

[urban lodge]

Ace couldn't control it

[warm cradle]

What's a king to a God anywah

[vernal ravine]

loki probably bornt with haki

[pulsar path]

That means expect nothing lol

[ashen perch]

you can be born with Observation, its weird but it just is a thing

[urban lodge]

Momo sure yeah, he's getting it for sure

[wraith mantle]

whats yall's second favorite one piece opening

[wet condor]

Doffy unlocked his Conq at what... 8? No older than 12

He couldn't control it though until later

[urban lodge]

Yeah I wouldn't count it unless they can control it

[wet condor]

Fair

[glass plume]

wouldn't surprise me if Garp used conquerors haki when he was like 5

just because he didn't get the food he wanted

[warm cradle]

I mean conq is not much rn unless your against fodder

[pulsar path]

Well unless you infuse it

[lofty fern]

I'm waiting for the reveal that Garp and Roger are actually half-brothers which will bring the entire lineage around Joyboy full circle, just like Davy's

[warm cradle]

Doubt that's gonna be a reason cuz we see a pic of him as a kid riding a tiger smiling 😭

[glass plume]

yeah, he took the food he wanted

by force

[warm cradle]

Truly our family piece

[glass plume]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-egghead-egghead-arc-garp-monkey-d-garp-gif-6811947587324008733

[wet condor]

People will be mad about nepo piece

[warm cradle]

Everyone is related to everyone

[wet condor]

They did grow up in the same sea

[lofty fern]

Cause those two seem super close for somehow no reason

[wet condor]

Of course the East Blue is also not small lol

[warm cradle]

They gay obviously

[glass plume]

Garp and Roger probably grew up together similair to ASL

[stone terrace]

nami beats like

all the weaker shs

[lofty fern]

But their homes are so far apart

[warm cradle]

Why else does garp act up whenever he hears Roger's name

[stone terrace]

she might beat jimbei ngl

bonney does*

[warm cradle]

Even though wb and rocks exist

[wet condor]

[lofty fern]

Garp and Roger have the same mother but different dads or vice-versa

[wet condor]

Jimbe isn't losing. That's why Nami relies on him

[glass plume]

Roger and Garp going on adventures as children, I can see it

[tranquil blade]

What is Jinbe doing right now

[warm cradle]

"I can't even imagine jinbei losing"

[urban lodge]

I wonder how that thinking is going

[hot cairn]

you’re insane

[tranquil blade]

Thinking

[ashen perch]

oh yea jesus

[wet condor]

It's crazy how he loses to cheese and everyone starts thinking he's washed

[ashen perch]

your thing in panel dump

[lofty fern]

Garp changed his name to Monkey like Rocks changed his to "Rocks", but he's a Gol the whole time

[ashen perch]

it inspired me to look up something

[tranquil blade]

I mean it didnt help he spent all of last arc being an amazon delivery worker

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-hook-gif-15276887

[steel stirrup]

[ashen perch]

this is what happened a thousand chapters before 1166...

[warm cradle]

[steel stirrup]

LMAOOOO

[stone terrace]

crackposting

[ashen perch]

look

[glass plume]

when will Sabo deliver the message to Vivi and Luffy?

[ashen perch]

the Lili theory isnt quite dead

[hot cairn]

I noticed that too, I used to think it was going to be the Vivi meet up with the strawhats chapter but I think we’ll still be in the flashback by then

[tranquil blade]

Lili possession could still be real

[wet condor]

Those boxes are heavy

[lofty fern]

Imu will notice Roger for the first time next week. The guy has been ignoring him for so long

[frozen aspen]

yeah the flashback will take awhile

[ashen perch]

exactly a thousand chapters later, we're gonna see it, Imu in the body of Lili...

[tranquil blade]

Do the bodies that Imu inhabits age at all

[wet condor]

And he saved Zoro's life

[ashen perch]

its gonna be the Imu reveal

[lofty fern]

You mean like Gunko and Saturn?

[hot cairn]

that would be peak ngl

[warm cradle]

W title panel

[ashen perch]

the Vivi reunion will line up with the X mark chapter

[tranquil blade]

I guess the answer would be no

[frozen aspen]

then he'll go right back to ignoring Roger til he finds the OP

[tranquil blade]

I know Muk didnt like the idea but

It's very possible

[hot cairn]

guys guys

Elbaph is officially 40 chapters long with this chapter

[steel stirrup]

What nigga

[urban lodge]

I was a big denier of that theory but that was before possession

The idea before was ope ope shenanigans

[glass plume]

i hope that Imu isn't just possessing someone, but that they have their own identity and body

[steel stirrup]

You don't like any good ideas do you

[glass plume]

i think it's kinda lame if they were just possessing someone, for 800 years

[tranquil blade]

Only 65 chapters left

No 66

[ashen perch]

stop

[frozen aspen]

67

[ashen perch]

NO

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-tweaking-im-done-this-fucking-guy-enxliv-gif-9697787287192308241

[tranquil blade]

No because I said when 1163 dropped we had 67 chapters left

[frozen aspen]

whats wrong buddy

[warm cradle]

Wait for oda to reveal imu was a extraterrestrial entity from the moon which took over lily's body and then bring enel in to kill imi

[hot cairn]

that’s what YC told me as well, itll be like chapter 1216 if it happens

[steel stirrup]

Avery i stg

[tranquil blade]

So now we have 66 chapters left

[urban lodge]

Well our concepts of good ideas are as we already know very different

[pine ridge]

unless it's somehow connected to imu saying the world is incomplete like his real body is locked away or smth

[steel stirrup]

Just say you got bad taste twin its okay

[glass plume]

i just think it's a bit meh with the whole stealing bodies trope

let them have their own body please

[tranquil blade]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-fortnite-laugh-speed-fortnite-ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-ishowspeed-laugh-ishowspeed-ishowspeed-fortnite-gif-9835923225045019138

[ashen perch]

yeah that would make sense for sure

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/rkelly-r-kelly-crying-r-kelly-interview-funny-i-cant-gif-13664820

[hot cairn]

I don’t think Elbaph has 60 chapters left but I do think itll be over/ending by the time we hit the 1200’s

[ashen perch]

52 chapters till 1216, Elbaf going for atleast 52 chapters more CONFIRMED

[formal wagon]

DIX SEVERN

SIX SEVEN

[hot cairn]

it can also happend after the arc is over you know

[ashen perch]

no it wont

[steel stirrup]

What won't

[ashen perch]

Vivi SH reunion

[glass plume]

i see that as a post-Elbaph thing

[stiff notch]

Do you guys think Buggy will show up soon in this flashback and turns out he's Rocks but reverted to a baby. Which would explain Buggy's current greatness and power

[steel stirrup]

You think it won't happen

Or something else

[warm cradle]

I doubt it

[glass plume]

if anything the reunion and Sabo's message will happen on Lodestar

[frozen aspen]

put down the crack pipe

[stone terrace]

[ashen perch]

I think its happening in Elbaf, not in the next arc

[steel stirrup]

Meth is a helluva drug

[warm cradle]

We will shift to harald or something after GV ends

[steel stirrup]

Oh

That would be cool

[stiff notch]

Im not hearing an absolute no tho

[steel stirrup]

How would that come about

[ashen perch]

https://tenor.com/view/blackbeard-blackbeard-writing-taking-notes-writing-gif-17583038544116987898

[stone terrace]

wait lol loki doesnt know luffy is garps grandson

[warm cradle]

Does loki know garp?

[steel stirrup]

Does Loki have beef with Garp or something

[stone terrace]

he knows the government took down rocks so he mustve heard some of the story

[glass plume]

Garp laughed at Harald

[ashen perch]

this is my first time hearing it, I love it, youre cooking bearj

[urban lodge]

Wait no he's not

I don't want to hate Buggy

[ashen perch]

Hiriluk or Buggy, you decide

he is one of them

[glass plume]

nah he is Kureha

[steel stirrup]

Maybe you could change

[tranquil blade]

He's not Hiriluk

[ashen perch]

Buggy it is then

[tranquil blade]

It's not him let it go

[steel stirrup]

What kind of Sky High plot is that

Reverted to a baby huh

[glass plume]

why can't he be Kureha?

[steel stirrup]

Royal Pain type beat

[glass plume]

Ivankov's fruit could've been used by someone else

[ashen perch]

it would actually be the funniest thing ever, Oda's greatest gag

[steel stirrup]

Explain to me

Howwwwqw

[willow pollen]

I think buggy could be Davy d

[steel stirrup]

That would be funny😭

[ashen perch]

wdym how, it just is

[warm cradle]

Nah he is joyboy

[steel stirrup]

Rocks became a baby and caught amnesia and forgor huh

[glass plume]

Buggy doesn't even look like Xebec

[urban lodge]

He is Rocks' real successor but he doesn't need to be Rocks smh

[steel stirrup]

Where the red nose come from

[hot cairn]

me too

[inner agate]

you dont have to inherit genes to inherit will

[steel stirrup]

Buggy?😭😭😂

[urban lodge]

Yes

[steel stirrup]

!nevercook

[tropic nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/294551467820580864/1133027499652165743/nevercookk.png?ex=66017b96&is=65ef0696&hm=0956b22048302348dc9364bd3e06f4a7dfac56ed0525d7ba715dd12d12ce7059&

[glass plume]

i agree with Penny

Buggy is more of a successor than Blackbeard is

[inner agate]

look at rocks wanted poster and then buggys wanted poster

[urban lodge]

Cope

[ashen perch]

its not real

[hot cairn]

he doesn’t know anything about Luffy yet

[steel stirrup]

Both of yall are mentally cooked

I am praying for both of you

[glass plume]

no need

[steel stirrup]

You need Nika

[glass plume]

i am Nika

[urban lodge]

Cope pt. 2

[ashen perch]

this is still going somewhere, I am sure of it atleast

[willow pollen]

Every time I see buggy’s poster his fingers look like Mr mime

[tranquil blade]

Cross Guild is the new Rocks pirates

[pine ridge]

he was dropped as a baby

[hot cairn]

can’t believe this rocks section of the flashback is almost over, it feels like it has been years

is this how Oden’s flashback felt?

[willow pollen]

Guys omg

[hot cairn]

weekly I mean

[glass plume]

finally we'll go back to Harald and Loki

[urban lodge]

Of course

[steel stirrup]

Buggy huh Lmaoooo

[ashen perch]

wait vain did you see what I posted

[hot cairn]

[steel stirrup]

Cap

[ashen perch]

1166, it will take place exactly a thousand chapters after Luffy v Vivi... Imu Lili reveal might be imminent

[steel stirrup]

Drop worthy

Ts is a horrible idea

[urban lodge]

You will never convince me it's not intentional, same fingers and everything

[steel stirrup]

Worst idea I've ever heard

[urban lodge]

Good

[ashen perch]

Veil Imu bros....

[glass plume]

when will Buggy ditch that red garb

i hate it

[steel stirrup]

Exactly

[urban lodge]

Also Cross Guild is more like the Rocks pirates than the BBPs will ever be

[steel stirrup]

Same shit

Grasping at straws bruh

[proud pivot]

"Buggy is great" Hahaha not funny

[ashen perch]

The World again......

[steel stirrup]

Lmaoooo

[tranquil blade]

Cross Guild is gonna be arguably more stacked than the Rocks Pirates at it's peak

[ornate tartan]

if Buggy has any connection to Rocks

[ashen perch]

almost very "The World" mention is about Imu btw

[steel stirrup]

You hear me

[glass plume]

i wonder if Crocodile is aware of Imu

[ashen perch]

whether intentionally by characters or intentionally by Oda

[steel stirrup]

Intentionally huh

[proud pivot]

bro is trying everything to downplay rocks and BB agenda while upscaling that clown

[urban lodge]

Wdym, it's pretty much the exact same lol

[proud pivot]

ts not tuff

[ashen perch]

in Buggy's case, its more Oda who intentionally went with that

[urban lodge]

I'm not downplaying anything

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/-gif-7240636

[glass plume]

you've blinded yourself

[proud pivot]

That clown is only relevant because he's a gag character lol

[glass plume]

it's literally all there, in front of you and you keep rejecting it

[urban lodge]

I'm gonna have to revoke your Gunko pfp rights

[steel stirrup]

Nah you have blinded yourself with agenda

[iron oriole]

Doubters will doubt

[steel stirrup]

Ts is trash

[glass plume]

sorry? you're the biggest Blackbeard agenda-piecer in here

[steel stirrup]

Not agenda I'm just a fan

[tranquil blade]

Like imagine a crew with almost all of the former warlords, neo mads and possibly a few other big name pirates on top of that, would be crazy

[glass plume]

suuuuuuure

[steel stirrup]

I dont cope or make up shit

[glass plume]

suuuuuure

[ashen perch]

the king....

[urban lodge]

They don't see the vision

[formal wagon]

nah

[steel stirrup]

Trash

Horrible

[urban lodge]

It's so sad

[steel stirrup]

If this is the vision you're seeing i pray I stay blind

[proud pivot]

That clown might belong to Gunko's family, it sucks

[glass plume]

keep in mind that Buggy is also Oda's favorite character

[ashen perch]

put your hatred to the side for the second and realize the reality here

[steel stirrup]

Ts is ass

No hatred

[tranquil blade]

What if Buggy is the real successor to Davy Jones

[steel stirrup]

Its just a bad idea

No hatred

[urban lodge]

Why?

[vernal ravine]

imu foreshadowing btw

[ashen perch]

ofc

[ornate tartan]

Buggy will be special in another way

[steel stirrup]

Blackbeard has Rocks will

Buggy has none

[urban lodge]

That's kind of the point

[inner agate]

he can unintentionally have parallels to rocks

[urban lodge]

To Buggy it just comes naturally

Whereas BB is trying to force it

[steel stirrup]

Make it make sense cause ts is just a bad idea

[inner agate]

i hope buggy is just a random kid that got really lucky

[ashen perch]

that hatred and inability to see the reality for themselves is the reason why Buggy being a Yonko was initially negatively received by the fandom

till they accepted it

[proud pivot]

Davy jones did not die for this clown bruh 😭🙏
https://tenor.com/view/buggy-gif-19915850

[hasty sable]

I don’t think forcing it is right for BB

[steel stirrup]

Force it? Fate is helping him he isn't forcing anything

[tranquil blade]

Well the assumption right would be that Blackbeard has Xebec's will cause he's his son and he's also trying to kill Imu

[glass plume]

fate didn't help him with the fruit, he had to kill someone for it

[tranquil blade]

but I mean

[glass plume]

Blackbeard says it's fate, when it's really just him forcing it

[steel stirrup]

Fate brought it aboard that ship

[ashen perch]

I have actually been thinking about Imu's words

[frigid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/blackbeard-one-piece-gif-21250658

[hasty sable]

Blackbeard is chosen by fate too

Too many things have lined up for him

[glass plume]

yeah and into the palms of Thatch, not Blackbeard

[ashen perch]

and I personally them more than I trust Xebec's words

[proud pivot]

what exactly?

[glass plume]

Buggy is the definiton of destined by fate if this is the case

[proud pivot]

he paved his own path iirc

[steel stirrup]

Where is Thatch rn

[hasty sable]

Getting the Yami. Running into Ace. Being saved by Shiryu.

Yami is the big one

[urban lodge]

Respect your elders, I'm the first Gunko pfp

[hasty sable]

He was chosen by that fruit

[glass plume]

he wasn't chosen lol

[proud pivot]

except the 3rd one, he did all that by himself

[glass plume]

he had to kill for that fruit, the fruit didn't choose him

[steel stirrup]

He thinks he was and thats all that matters

[hasty sable]

The fruit basically fell into his lap

[proud pivot]

Yami Yami no mi wasn't given to him lol

[glass plume]

you're right, he thinks he is when he wasn't

[proud pivot]

he literally killed his family for that

[hasty sable]

All he had to do was kill for it

[glass plume]

it didn't, it fell into Thatch's lap

[ornate tartan]

how did the Yami choose him when it’s not even a Zoan or Mythical Zoan. It’s a Logia bro😂😂😂

[hasty sable]

Who he killed

[willow pollen]

Blackbeard has not inherited rocks will, he has the same goal maybe but not the will
For him to inherit the will he would have to go about achieving the goal in the same way. Blackbeard has gone against everything rocks is in the flashback, it is an absolute insult to say that he has inherited rocks will.
Time and time again, this series has drilled into our heads that inherited blood does not mean inherited will. Blood relation is not important in this case

[ornate tartan]

yall literally going off of headcanon

[hasty sable]

It basically did

[vernal ravine]

maybe the fruit told him to kill tatch

[hasty sable]

It was fate

[glass plume]

yeah, once again forcing his own will and then saying it's fate

[proud pivot]

and yeah that's breaking a moral code which is basically death sentence, there were stakes, he didn't get pampered by fate unlike luffy

[steel stirrup]

But you can't say that fate didn't bring that fruit onto the ship he happened to be on

[hasty sable]

The descendant of Davy ending up with the Yami is fate

[inner agate]

bb isnt destined by fate hes just good at making plans and changing them when necessary

[steel stirrup]

He isn't forcing anything

[glass plume]

well the fruit was destined to be with Thatch if anything

[willow pollen]

Bb is lucky

[steel stirrup]

He has a plan

[proud pivot]

Rocks didn't end up with that, it seems

he is a davy

[hasty sable]

Same for Luffy with the Gomu

[steel stirrup]

If that was the case his ass would be alive instead of on a t-shirt rn

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/dutch-van-der-linde-red-dead-redemption-2-rdr-2-freaky-gif-15202838275417955046

[hasty sable]

Roger didn’t end up with the Gomu either

[tranquil blade]

Well yeah I don't think it's guaranteed just because of the blood relation and somewhat similar goal

[stone terrace]

BB finding the yami wasnt fate

[hasty sable]

Teach is the one who is going to do what Rocks couldn’t do. And Luffy is the one who will do what Roger couldn’t do.

[tranquil blade]

We know from Ace that not all wills are passed down through lineage

[stone terrace]

he personally went out of his way to position himself to find it

[proud pivot]

yeah but rocks is a davy descendant right?

[tranquil blade]

In fact most aren't

[glass plume]

Whitebeard knows that Blackbeard isn't fated for greatness

he said it himself

[stone terrace]

and then had to kill the dude who actually got it

[steel stirrup]

He thinks it was fate

So it was fucking fate

[glass plume]

exactly

[proud pivot]

this

[hasty sable]

Whitebeard knows Blackbeard isn’t who Roger was waiting for

That’s all

But Teach is special

[inner agate]

BB isnt destined by luck or fate hes just cunning and decisive buggy is who is tied by luck

[glass plume]

that's not how fate works

[proud pivot]

this ppl really got some mustard ass takes

[steel stirrup]

Seems to be for him

[glass plume]

he can't define what fate is, lol

[hasty sable]

Blackbeard is both chosen by fate and cunning

[willow pollen]

Your pfp looks like a cat

[hasty sable]

And extremely lucky

Which goes hand in hand with his fate

[ashen perch]

I think the idea of Davy Jones being the previous King of the World is a myth that solely exists in the Davy Clan, and Imu is saying the truth that he was never the King of the World for a single moment. I think the wording gives it away, all Davy did was briefly sit on the throne for that ONE moment and his followers got carried away, misinterpreted the reality and it was eventually shaped into what Rocks says to Imu. Davy Jones was merely the Buggy of Void Century.

[steel stirrup]

He and his crew have been spouting "fate this" and "fate that" since they were introduced

But ok

[inner agate]

why do people associate yami with davy jones automatically

[glass plume]

yeah, since they want to believe that it's their fate when it's not

[proud pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/michaeljordan-mj-basketball-gif-michael-jordan-no-no-no-no-gif-16220345851539903827

[willow pollen]

Yes that’s why buggy will inherit rocks will

[proud pivot]

what is bro onto?

[willow pollen]

Not dumbass teach

[glass plume]

i mean come on, Van Auger shot a bird and said that it was fate

[hasty sable]

Because it’s the fruit Blackbeard wanted to the point he would have given up if he ever found it

It’s definitely special and connected to his dream in some way

[steel stirrup]

Fate made the bullet hit that bird

[iron oriole]

Yami sucks everything into the abyss of the darkness > bottom of the sea > davy jones locker

[inner agate]

he wanted it because its strong

[ashen perch]

@urban lodge what do you think btw

[hasty sable]

Blackbeard is already extremely strong by default

[ashen perch]

cook

[steel stirrup]

It was the birds fate to die

[hasty sable]

He wanted the Yami because he literally can’t do his dream without it

And he knows it

[ashen perch]

I think Buggy too will sit on the throne, for just one moment

[proud pivot]

do you realize he had to kill a brother like figure who he spent decades with? that's not luck, that's doing heinous and its an effort, but yap all you want

[ashen perch]

and that will be everything

[inner agate]

kinda interesting imagine if yami takes things to davy jones locker

[hasty sable]

Why does that matter?

[proud pivot]

that's no luck

he made effort

[brittle basin]

BB has it
BB might be the spiritual successor to Davy if Luffy is also carrying the will of Joy Boy and has the Nika fruit (note that Rocks said he needed 2 specific devil fruits)
That does not mean this is true, i'm just trying to see it through the lens of those who claim this.

[hasty sable]

Blackbeard doesn’t care about killing friends. He thinks nothing of it.

[ornate tartan]

same when people assumed rocks had a Df or Roger lost to rocks 1 year before god valley

one piece fans tend to make stuff that isn’t confirmed canon just because it’s a possibility

[hasty sable]

Luffy is chosen by fate too and he put in arguably way more effort than Teach

[proud pivot]

he wasn't provided with the fruit like luffy

[wet condor]

It depends if on the will of the fruit I'd say

[proud pivot]

Luffy didn't make effort or spend years finding it

[urban lodge]

Cool idea, I agree, I also believe Imu's words more than Rocks'

[steel stirrup]

provided

He literally stole it out of the chest to eat it

[wet condor]

If the Yami Yami no Mi truly is an evil fruit, killing Thatch may've been it testing Teach

[hasty sable]

Teach ended up finding the Yami by coincidence. It chose him as much as Gomu did Luffy imo.

[stone terrace]

If blackbeard was fated to find the yami then I was fated to find a shiny caterpee because i went in the bushes enough time to find one

[willow pollen]

BBs dream vs rocks dream

[steel stirrup]

They're not gonna listen to that point

[brittle basin]

yami confirmed mythical zoan. gg. ez.

[wet condor]

I'm leaving that open

[proud pivot]

atp we both know shanks planned it bro

[hasty sable]

And all the fate talk around Teach

Yeah I think it was destiny

[willow pollen]

Teach is such a dumbass name it’s a verb like tf

[glass plume]

Blackbeard believes in a perverted version of the dream that Xebec had

[steel stirrup]

Yea he planned to give the fruit to someone but I doubt he intended it to be Luffy

That just happened

[urban lodge]

It was pure luck unless it was a zoan

[proud pivot]

I'd like you to change that word to more cruel and evil

[steel stirrup]

Wait on it

[inner agate]

right why do so many fans keep repeating theories as if theyre confirmed and its also theories where the evidence to back it up is reaching

[hot cairn]

Buggy being a Yonko is so peak

[willow pollen]

Fujis on the wrong side 😭

[vernal ravine]

yeah the fruit chose him by testing him if he was prepare to kill his nakama

[steel stirrup]

Yep

[proud pivot]

No shanks literally said Luffy said the exact same line roger did before that he wanted Ace to eat that fruit

[hasty sable]

Blackbeard actually wants to be king of the world and Xebec more didn’t want Imu to be king of the world lol

[urban lodge]

He wanted to be king too

[sage temple]

Loki's the only one who expressed how he wanted to be king of the world explicitly

As for BB it's more of an inference

[trim lily]

allegedly

[steel stirrup]

Do you know when in the timeline exactly that happened?

Did Luffy say those words before or after he ate the fruit?

[urban lodge]

No, Rocks did too

[trim lily]

we have no idea what that entails though

[tranquil blade]

Blackbeard doesnt care about improving the world he simply wants to be the ruler of it

[hasty sable]

Blackbeard wants everything

[ornate tartan]

since when did logias choose their user like a zoan or mythical zoan? Am I missing something??

[trim lily]

he just said it offhanded

[tranquil blade]

Xebec is a little less known

[grand flower]

Holy fuck you cooked

[tranquil blade]

He may want to make the world a better place

[glass plume]

what even is Blackbeards goal after he claimed the throne

does he have a thought about after?

[hasty sable]

Xebec says he does but it seems more at God Valley that he wants to take out Imu more than anything

[grand flower]

Voice or all things maybe

Of*

[frozen aspen]

Ngl I think it's funny that Dragon's idea of saving shanks was to take him to a Navy Ship, that would have made shanks end up right back in Garling's hands probably

[tranquil blade]

Idk do whatever he wants

[grand flower]

Rocks has it

[urban lodge]

Yeah, who knows, at this point I think Oda will give him some dumbass noble goal for it

[grand flower]

Teach probably does too

[hasty sable]

The idea of Imu lording over everything makes him angry

[urban lodge]

But he did say it

[vernal ravine]

they don't but yami yami probably is a zoan too

[glass plume]

Xebec surely had more of a plant than that

[iron oriole]

Do whatever tf he wants when he wants & to whoever he wants

[glass plume]

ah just like Imu

[steel stirrup]

Blackbeard's language around the Yami no mi implies he thinks it chose him

IF he is correct. We may have more than one secret Zoan around.

[grand flower]

The voice of all things allowed Teach to hear the Yami Yami calling to him. That’s why teach said it chose him

[brittle basin]

A DF has the VOAT? Now we're cooking with butter.

[ashen perch]

Oda did refer to Davy as a lying, no-good pirate too, now that was about the real life myth but I think it could extend to the character in OP too. Either way, I am going with the words of the guy who was actually there over the man who has only learnt what he knows through his family supposedly.

[frozen aspen]

so loosing him was the best result

[grand flower]

LOL

[inner agate]

eat cherry pies

[hasty sable]

That’s the way I see it anyway. Becoming king of the world is his reason for fighting empire.

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/warrant-cherry-pie-gif-3640593

[hasty sable]

Not what he wants above all else

[steel stirrup]

!cook

[tropic nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1211111343852228638/1217510693411229746/cook.png?ex=66044a31&is=65f1d531&hm=fda7fc91afb3dda1c7a90192efda3372e268931d0bcc5db2b97d635b65b260ae&

[hasty sable]

He wants to kill that king of rats

[glass plume]

he is a rat himself tho

[steel stirrup]

He is a hippo

[tranquil blade]

Considering he wants Imu to leave Harald's peaceful version of Elbaph alone, I think he would be fine with improving the world somewhat, maybe trying to bring peace after beating Imu

[vernal ravine]

imu spotted

[willow pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-op-one-piece-fight-op-fight-shanks-gif-6506748016234440590

[glass plume]

some sort of fusion, sure

[urban lodge]

Yep. Rocks has kinda made me lose hope ngl, but I think Davy genuinely being a scumbag who earned Imu's ire is a much more interesting direction

[glass plume]

i mean yeah, probably
he would've at least not made it worse i guess

[steel stirrup]

His Warlord animal is a Hippo

[urban lodge]

I really like the idea that he killed Lily

[proud pivot]

🤦‍♂️Bro didn't read the story

[glass plume]

yeah and his actions are that of a rat

and a snake

[steel stirrup]

Thats an opinion

[glass plume]

it's pretty factual given what we see him do through the story

[steel stirrup]

Boo hoo

[glass plume]

he is a scummy guy

[lofty fern]

That would be cool. Though I don't like how that could easily spin into "the fruit made him evil" for some

[hasty sable]

Imu is going to be scummier than Davy

[steel stirrup]

Nah he's a pirate

[willow pollen]

Bro doesn’t know he’s in a backstory 😭

[hasty sable]

Xebec is just cool

[glass plume]

okay? and you mean pirates aren't scummy

[sage temple]

Loki parallel

[willow pollen]

Does he even see the black background

[ashen perch]

yeea true but I think in Davy's case it might be true atleast... we'll see tho

[glass plume]

wth is this translation lol

[steel stirrup]

I mean everyone in this story is scummy

You want no scum? Become a Coby fan.

[proud pivot]

I mean Shanks was abt to give that fruit to roger's son which roger wanted to as he said to Rayleigh

But Luffy did say something which led Shanks believe that luffy is the destined one and he should eat that fruit

[hasty sable]

Davy won’t be as bad as Teach imo

[glass plume]

far from everyone is scummy

[lofty fern]

Loki didn't read the story either?

[glass plume]

Blackbeard is particularly scummy

[thin dirge]

Wait where is robin currently I don’t remember seeing her ?

[hasty sable]

I think that Joyboy and Davy will have different philosophies but won’t necessarily be enemies

Just different ways of being pirates

[steel stirrup]

The main characters are literally scumbags wym

[ashen perch]

captured alongside most of the crew

[pine ridge]

taking a nap

[glass plume]

they aren't lol

there are levels to being scummy

[steel stirrup]

Luffy is a selfish goblin

[glass plume]

Blackbeard is the top level

[lofty fern]

What if he's worse? 😬
Like Imu is actually not as bad as Davy

[hasty sable]

Joyboy is a peacemain and Davy is a morganeer

[glass plume]

he still cares for more than just himself, unlike Blackbeard

[thin dirge]

So the fodder crew is above wit imu and the strong ones is with Loki rn ?

[steel stirrup]

Zoro is a sword obsessed borderline serial killer

Nami is a money hungry greedy hoe

[glass plume]

i hope these terms return

[pine ridge]

yes

[steel stirrup]

Robin was a former assassin

[ashen perch]

the monster trio is with Loki yes

[sage temple]

Explicitly said it as well just like Rocks

[hasty sable]

Regardless of what they do with Davy

[steel stirrup]

Sanji peeked in on women bathing

[ashen perch]

well, its only Luffy and Chopper that are with Loki right now

[hasty sable]

Imu will be the villain of the Void Century

[steel stirrup]

They are ALL SCUMBAGS

[ashen perch]

Sanji and Zoro went up the last we saw them

[proud pivot]

Imu will be a rat king

[glass plume]

okay, now list down what scummy things Blackbeard has done

[lofty fern]

Yeah, but she's the kind of assassin you root for. The same with all the SHs.

[proud pivot]

in the void century

[hazy turret]

Asleep probably

[thin dirge]

Is this a hot take; I think if you gave me any logia I could beat ussopp ⁉️

[sage temple]

3 biggest ppl in the alliance

[ashen perch]

true

[lofty fern]

It's like when you cheer for the government assassin trying to save his family in an action movie. He's technically bad, but everyone sees him as the hero

[pine ridge]

well yeah logias are very powerful fruits

[proud pivot]

don't just beat him

[sage temple]

😭

[steel stirrup]

Slimed out Thatch
Slimed out WB
Slimed out Marco
Slimed out Ochoku
Has children slaves
Murderer
Kidnapper
Slave trader

[sage temple]

It isn't a hot take

At all

[urban lodge]

I think we should be able to trust what Oda said about Davy in the SBS because it came directly from him, not the narrator or anything. Unless he retcons it

[glass plume]

and you still say that he isn't the scummiest

[proud pivot]

children slaves?

[winter comet]

Slimed out 4 pirates is a bad thing?

[lofty fern]

Who is Ussop? Must be a copy cat

[hasty sable]

Pretty sure he said that before he had any idea there was a Davy Jones

[steel stirrup]

I didnt say he wasn't the scummiest

I said he isn't the only scummy one

[sage temple]

Nobody uses Usopp

[hasty sable]

Like an important Davy jones lol

[glass plume]

well that much is obvious

[hasty sable]

Not a joke based on a real myth

[sage temple]

Nobody cares enough about the guy to spell his name right

[hot cairn]

man I can’t wait to go back to the present

[sage temple]

😭

[steel stirrup]

Still my favorite villain in all of fiction🤷🏾‍♂️

[winter comet]

So fr bruh

[glass plume]

probably one of my least favorites

[sage temple]

Same it's almost confirmed Loki's gonna be big role in this fight

[lofty fern]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-usopp-funny-anime-anime-meme-gif-5956627137734463391

[winter comet]

Ussop easier to type for some reason

[steel stirrup]

Valid take

[ashen perch]

come on man

[steel stirrup]

Agree to disagree

[sage temple]

True

[glass plume]

yeah, let's agree to disagree

[sage temple]

Agreeing to disagree is sheep behavior

[hot cairn]

what if he gets domi reversid

[steel stirrup]

I know he's a piece of shit

But he's my favorite piece of shit

[ashen perch]

he said that after LRLL, where Davy is confirmed as having existed in the OP world, said to be cursed by the devil. Oda had this in mind lol

[hasty sable]

Sorry I don’t think Oda planned out every detail of this story fifteen years ago

[hot cairn]

Archer doesnt believe that Oda plans things LOL

[sage temple]

Pretty unlikely imo since he has so many things that differentiates him from his dad and Xebec

[ashen perch]

"every detail" and its the most important details of the story

[sage temple]

Primarily his DF

[hasty sable]

I think he plans some things but not ever bring

I don’t think Davy Jones was always in the cards

[sage temple]

Both Harald and Rocks could resist domi reversi pretty well it looks like even without a DF

[ashen perch]

your issue is thinking that it being 15 years ago matters

[steel stirrup]

How you gon turn Loki into a demon he already is a demon

[hot cairn]

perhaps

[sage temple]

So if Loki has a DF it'll probably be no problem

[hasty sable]

Which is also why we are getting this significant lore drop out of nowhere now lol

[sage temple]

This as well he shares a lot of the traits the DR giants have

[winter comet]

Just give ussop a df bruh

[lofty fern]

Poor Usopp, he can't get people to spell his name right, much less an arc 🤣

[steel stirrup]

The only thing DR would give Loki is wings

He got everything else

[hasty sable]

With nary a hint of a significant Davy Jones character

[ashen perch]

The core of the story has never changed, the final portion of the story has never changed, the middle has expanded, thats all.

[sage temple]

He has he horns, the eyes, only thing missing is the fangs and maybe wings ig

[steel stirrup]

The horns

The eyes

The strength

He is already a demon

[hasty sable]

Disagree

[sage temple]

But his DF might grant him fangs and wings

[glass plume]

he needs the fangs

and wings

[ashen perch]

Archer, this is something Oda himself has confirmed lol

[hasty sable]

I think he’s added and adjusted a lot over time

[winter comet]

Wait what if Oda gives him one of the 2 devil fruits

[hasty sable]

He’s only been drawing for decades

[sage temple]

His DF could give him that

[steel stirrup]

I think his DF gives him fangs

Wings idk

[hasty sable]

I think the essential core of the story has always been there but I don’t think Davy was

[lofty fern]

I'm sure both those fruits are already taken

[sage temple]

Loki also has a legendary DF

[steel stirrup]

His fruit seems to be a Zoan of some kind for it to be "Legendary"

[ashen perch]

Davy is the essential core of the story though

[sage temple]

Yeah that's likely

[hasty sable]

As in luffy will find the one piece and do the thing

[steel stirrup]

Mythical Zoan most likely

[hasty sable]

Davy is an addition

Or not

[lofty fern]

I don't think Loki got that "legendary DF", it went to Luffy

[hasty sable]

I don’t say anything with certainty

[sage temple]

I feel like Loki just inherited Rocks/Davys will and same with Eris since she was "welcomed" into the Davy clan

[hasty sable]

But he feels like something Oda came up with later

[steel stirrup]

He does have a DF tho

[sweet anvil]

How so ?

[ashen perch]

what if its actually the Will of Davy? youre gonna say that it was meant to be something else back in Drum Island?

[urban lodge]

I actually do believe he planned Davy Jones

[ornate tartan]

@sage temple 😭

[proud pivot]

Duh "There can only be one Gunko fan" and that's me

[steel stirrup]

Shit any DF in Loki's hand is legendary fym

[winter comet]

Bro a straw hat member becoming a df user in the journey would be a really good update

[urban lodge]

Idk if he planned for BB to be related to him

[winter comet]

Sanji was on track to be Mera Mera no mi user at one point

[steel stirrup]

Give Loki the worst DF ever and he'll still make it look good

[sage temple]

So the Giants see his DF powers -> Call it legendary

[sweet anvil]

Wait so what does everyone think the 2 fruits are

[sage temple]

Is a lie apparently

[proud pivot]

xebec? yeah way earlier, BB literally named his ship "Saber of xebec"

[sage temple]

😭

[ashen perch]

Davy Jones is the most famous pirate legend in the world, ofc he always planned to incorporate it into his pirate manga that he did so much research for

[hasty sable]

Idk if it is the Will or Davy yet. I don’t think Oda planned everything like some people do. And this feels like an idea he came up with later.

[lofty fern]

Someone not Loki stole the fruit. I'm thinking an HK or CP. The fruit ended up with Who's Who, Shanks stole it and Luffy ate it

[sage temple]

Highkey true

[glass plume]

Yami and Nika

[urban lodge]

Davy Jones

[ashen perch]

I dont think he mentioned Davy back in Long RIng Long Land for fun

[proud pivot]

Yeah Davy jones idk abt that

[hasty sable]

I kind of think he did at the time

[ashen perch]

this is silly archer

[sage temple]

WHO IS THIS GOAT

[proud pivot]

but I do know Imu and Xebec were introduced at the same time

[lofty fern]

I think the fruit disappered and they just assumed Loki ate it

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/hug-brandon-terry-carson-the-ms-pat-show-good-job-gif-22509570

[proud pivot]

chap 906-907

[urban lodge]

Tis a joke

[sage temple]

Yet they see his powers and call it legendary

[sweet anvil]

Yeah I’m pretty sure it was implied shanrock may have been to elbaf before too so it sounds reasonable but if the HK retrieved it , it would’ve went straight back to the holy land what reason would the CP be transporting it for

[ashen perch]

theres a lot that I am sure Oda hasnt planned, and I agree with that. Davy not one of those things tho.

[winter comet]

Idk about Nika for some reason because it hasn’t awakened for 800 years and only works if u awaken it (the nika aspect) and Rocks doesn’t rlly have anyone on his crew who would have the liberating personality

[steel stirrup]

The strongest Gunko fan here is Vam

[lofty fern]

legendary can be used in many ways

[glass plume]

he did have Harald

who he believed would've awakened it

[sage temple]

Yet it's only used with Loki's and Luffy's DF

[winter comet]

Oh true

[proud pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/we-both-know-thats-not-possible-max-martini-edward-coventry-the-order-we-know-thats-impossible-gif-18027351

[sage temple]

"Legendary can be used in many ways" idrc it's still called legendary

[sweet anvil]

I think oda planned to use Davy again he just didn’t have an exact idea how

[sage temple]

All that matters imo

[steel stirrup]

If Rocks knew the true nature of the fruit...

[lofty fern]

I don't think so, though Harald has been to the holy land so Shanks and Sham may have met him there

[sage temple]

Dang I wonder what Loki's DF power could be

Dude's had it for at least a decade

[lofty fern]

So since Usopp is also legendary, does that mean Loki and Usopp will be the same?

[steel stirrup]

Isn't it implied that the Legendary fruit was stolen or something

[sage temple]

Plenty of training time

[proud pivot]

whatever it is, it didn't really helped him beat shanks 😭

[sage temple]

Is Ussop a fruit?

Completely different context

😭

[winter comet]

There’s a probability rocks prolly thought to use the 2 dev fruits because they directly align with his goals and would directly help him and not that there’s a prophecy regarding them being the two fruits

[hasty sable]

There are a lot of really significant things in One Piece that I think he decided on as he was drawing

[steel stirrup]

Didn't a HK or some hooded figure steal the fruit?

[sage temple]

Good talk Hpq

[hasty sable]

And Davy is one of them

[ashen perch]

I disagree with that too, because the details that Oda lets us be aware of are very specific. From Davy creating the Davy Back Fight in a paradise for pirates, THE Pirate Island, to him being cursed by the devil that is the main antagonist of the series right now.

[sage temple]

It might've. Loki called Shanks a coward and it could be because Shanks cheated

[lofty fern]

Yeah, someone stole it in the chaos

[sage temple]

Shanks doesn't play by rules as we know

[hasty sable]

Not that it matters

[urban lodge]

I believe he planned Davy, but not the Davy clan or BB being related to him

[steel stirrup]

Do we know exactly when that happened in the timeline

[proud pivot]

I hope so, but it can be because shanks avoids war and is a pacifist

[winter comet]

Could be the nika fruit tho because shanks robbed the thing from cipher pol within one year of the legendary fruit going missing from elbaph

[proud pivot]

because if Shanks beats Loki

old gen are gonna get powercreeped so bad

[lofty fern]

https://tenor.com/view/talk-gif-6073211

[sage temple]

Idk, this was when Shanks became a Yonko so he may have been a little more ruthless

[ornate tartan]

A good detail u guys might have overlooked

Kuma uses 2 different hands to teleport Teach and Eris. Most likely to 2 different places

Which would make sense why Teach was an Orphan

[lofty fern]

14 years ago from present

[steel stirrup]

That's what I'm thinking a bit ngl

The fruit got stolen by the WG

Then Lucky Roux stole it back from them

[urban lodge]

I wonder where the hell he sent them

[sage temple]

Timbuktu

[urban lodge]

Can't be sorbet

[steel stirrup]

Hmm doesnt line up with what im thinking nvm

[winter comet]

I mean he could only teleport them to places he has been so that would be limited

[urban lodge]

Because that's south blue

And they'd have to cross the red line

[lofty fern]

He can only send them two places. I hope Kuma didn't send one of them to the other place 😭

[ashen perch]

I think he planned that too, THE pirate island was always going to be one of the most significant locations in the series and it being mentioned in relation with Davy makes me think he clearly had an idea of how it was going to come back

[steel stirrup]

What about Sabaody if he had to take the lift up to the Holy Land

[winter comet]

I thought it’s 13 years ago

[tranquil blade]

What if they got sent to two different places

[rich hornet]

That seems uncharacteristically irresponsable of Kuma. Big doubt

[winter comet]

And 12 years ago shanks stole it

[tranquil blade]

Oh well you already said it

[lofty fern]

Well Sabaody is close to the holy land but it's not on the holy land.

[ashen perch]

tbf Kuma is new with his powers

but I do think they were sent to the same location

[steel stirrup]

Child Kuma has shown to have been to Sorbet Kingdom and Mariejoie

If he made any other stops, we haven't been told of them.

[urban lodge]

He was probably taken to other places as a slave

[winter comet]

I mean slave ships prolly docked at random islands

[ashen perch]

he cant really teleport them to Sorbet because of the Red Line, it must have been somewhere else

[steel stirrup]

I think its feasible to believe he made a few stops along the way tho

[winter comet]

Like to replenish supplies

[wraith mantle]

kuma sent bb and eris to the holy land

by mitstake

[steel stirrup]

Yea

[stone terrace]

inb4 lulusia

[urban lodge]

Lulusia is on the other side of the red line too I think?

[steel stirrup]

I've seen that theory no mi but I dont buy it without some evidence

[winter comet]

Eris was a pirate she could probably make her way to lulusia

[ashen perch]

uh, I'd have to look at the map actually

[steel stirrup]

Yea im sure Eris would be able to make shit happen no matter where they landed

[urban lodge]

If it's paradise it's the other side

[winter comet]

Idk because that was the island sabo went to after the reverie

[steel stirrup]

I think so

[glass plume]

maybe Kuma travelled with his parents before becoming a slave?

[steel stirrup]

Imu said Lulusia is close

[winter comet]

No chance they were common folk

[steel stirrup]

Nah Clapp wouldn't have traveled knowing that he was on a list like that

[grand flower]

They had to travel from the South Blue where they got Kuma to Marijoa and then to the West Blue where Me Valley is

[winter comet]

Oh true

[steel stirrup]

Me Valley😂

[winter comet]

Like while he was in prison

[steel stirrup]

!cook

[tropic nova]

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[grand flower]

Ya

At the very least, going to those three locations

They probably had to stop for supplies and such

Garling did at Me Valley

[steel stirrup]

Yea they surely made some stops i just wish we knew where

[wraith mantle]

i wonder if we will get a flashback that shows roger meeting rouge

[glass plume]

Drum?

[urban lodge]

Ok yeah Lulusia is paradise, so it couldn't have been Lulusia

[winter comet]

What’s the odds Oda didn’t think as far as us and Kuma just sent people to sorbet kingdom

[formal wagon]

vira is a paradise

[steel stirrup]

I've been thinking about Drum Island a lot

First place BB went when he started out

First place we heard about the Will of D

[urban lodge]

It's probably some new island

[ashen perch]

okay yea it doesnt work, just checked, West is on the New World side

[winter comet]

I’ve been thinking why did kuma previously visit Amazon lily

[ornate tartan]

BB was a orphan so either he was sent somewhere else then Eris or his mother was killed

[bitter linden]

Wow, we had several revelations in this chapter:
The two main ones were that Davy D. Jones was once the king of the world... And Joyboy and Davy aren't the same person (and that was predictable in a way...)

[glass plume]

we've not seen it at least

[ornate tartan]

but by who?

[ashen perch]

Oda never explained that one

[steel stirrup]

Only thing I can think of is as part of his Warlord duties

[grand flower]

Teach killed Eris

[steel stirrup]

They let the WG come about 2 miles off the island

[trim lily]

baby teach got hands

[winter comet]

He was only a warlord for very little so it’s hard to say so but that could be the case

But men aren’t allowed on Amazon lily

[steel stirrup]

Only time I can think of

He wasnt shown going there during his flashback

[urban lodge]

I like Marin's theory that she was grafted onto BB's back like an Elden Ring monstrosity

[hazy echo]

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FixupX · Nov 1, 2025, 12:01 PM

[winter comet]

Maybe dragon touched down on Amazon lily one time

[hazy echo]

FOXY

[steel stirrup]

I was gonna say you had a good idea but thats Marins

[winter comet]

Coz dragon started revs with kuma and had luffy 4 years after that

[trim lily]

kuma is so insanely lucky luffy was aroace or else he wouldve died within an hour of landing in amazon lily

[blazing depot]

Davy D Foxy

[trim lily]

carrot mentioned

[ornate tartan]

why Foxy got Mihawk facial hair💀

[winter comet]

Dragon prolly got status with Amazon lily people because he is against world government

[idle knoll]

they related

[glass plume]

probably if we're going with the Tritoma being Luffy's mother theory

[steel stirrup]

@fallen meteor tell me more about this theory when u get on please

[winter comet]

But that’s just feeding into that mother theory yeah

[steel stirrup]

MARIII

[foggy holly]

That would be such a shame if the wife of the strongest guy around gets killed by some random west blue pirate shhsh

[lofty fern]

Yeah, it was 14

[winter comet]

Coz Tritoma was similar aged to dragon too

[idle knoll]

RICH happy after halloween hru

[steel stirrup]

Tritoma huh

[trim lily]

this is the only insane theory im rooting for

[frozen aspen]

teach knows about his family history... She definitely told him even if he was seperates initially

[glass plume]

Tritoma needs to be Luffy's mother, I beg you Oda

[winter comet]

Damn 2 years of transporting a df doesn’t make sense then

[steel stirrup]

Happy Halloween! Im good hbu sis.

[trim lily]

marin deserves a win

[steel stirrup]

Why?

[hazy echo]

Luffy’s mom is Dadan

[formal wagon]

dadab

[ashen perch]

I'm thinking this means you dont consider my theories insane then

[formal wagon]

[steel stirrup]

[glass plume]

i just want it to be

[trim lily]

[steel stirrup]

Oh ok

[glass plume]

Tritoma and Dragon having Luffy feels so perfect

[idle knoll]

good, i was choso this year I'm also making a one piece thing for an art show

[glass plume]

it would explain why Luffy was sent to Amazon Lily as well

[ornate tartan]

will we ever get a panel of Empress Tritoma

[idle knoll]

but i don't really know what to do

[lofty fern]

I don't think his parents went over there? It was just Kuma to god valley. I don't think Kuma would know enough to send people that way though

[frozen aspen]

You know what would be an interesting idea? Teach actually knew jackshit about rocks when he joined Whitebeard. That talk about him waiting for 30 years to get his hands on the yami yami no mi was a fat lie and he actually meet Eris again when he was older. She convinced to go ahead and fullfill "Rocks dream"

[glass plume]

also why Tritoma died from love sickness

[winter comet]

Yh she looked to be 10-15 in the Gloriosa flashback 42 years ago and god valley dragon is 17 so if she were alive she would be 50-60 and dragon is 55

[trim lily]

it really is funny that kuma nearly sent luffy to his death

[steel stirrup]

Amazon Lily women are not supposed to be able to have boys so it would definitely make Luffy an anomaly

[trim lily]

there was no way he couldve planned for luffy not being affected by the mero mero

[steel stirrup]

The timeline definitely lines up

[frozen aspen]

Kuma knew that luffy was built different from the start

[glass plume]

it just makes perfect sense

[lofty fern]

It can. it depends on where it was hidden first, if they lost it, how long it took Shanks to find it. How long it takes to travel the world, etc

[winter comet]

Yh I remember this but I thought this was just wordplay narration “for some reason they only have girls…” and this basically hints that the boys are abandoned

[ashen perch]

since Oda has not confirmed Kuma's reason for going to Amazon Lily, I am thinking he knew about Tritoma and was expecting them to take care of the son of the previous empress

[steel stirrup]

You think a AL mother would die from love sickness when she has a child?

[ashen perch]

well see, I think she is alive actually

[fossil mortar]

dragon with shit parenting

[lofty fern]

I'll say the woman was introduced and given a name for a reason. She even got dialogue

[steel stirrup]

Her having a new life to take care wouldn't lessen the sickness a bit you think?

[winter comet]

Nah I think tritoma died because she was away from dragon left not because she had a child (assuming this theory)

[foggy holly]

Dragon having charm good enough to break a men-hating heart? Lol that's very very unlikely

[fossil mortar]

luffy's mother will be important unfortunately

[lofty fern]

It depends. It's linked to the one you love, not your child

[ashen perch]

fortunately

[fossil mortar]

wonder who dragon's mother is

[steel stirrup]

I feel like a mother's love for their child would be the only "love" that could beat the kind of love that Love Sickness affects

[rich hornet]

This wasnt the first time we heard of her tbf

[winter comet]

Confirmed dead by Gloriosa unfortunately y

[urban lodge]

How do you feel about my idea that the burn scar man is Bluejam?

[steel stirrup]

Bluejam?

Im high

Who is that

[ashen perch]

we'll see, Gloriosa might simply not know

[lofty fern]

Yeah but the fact that Oda rose her above just SBS status is telling

[urban lodge]

Imagine not remembering Bluejam

[steel stirrup]

Im high rn

[glass plume]

https://tenor.com/view/bluejam-pirates-gif-12443131488201389750

[urban lodge]

The pirate from the ASL flashback

[ashen perch]

speaking of burn scar

[lofty fern]

ASL flashback

[steel stirrup]

OHHH

Not bad

[sweet anvil]

Luffy was goated

No snitching

[winter comet]

Resemblance is there…

[rich hornet]

Maybe, but it can also be simply worldbuilding

[glass plume]

fr

[steel stirrup]

Is Bluejam associated with the WG?

Lafitte's rumors imply that the Burn Scar man is WG affiliated

[sweet anvil]

Wait bluejam was captain of the same pirates that torutued luffy right

Or am i remembering things wrong

[ornate tartan]

Buggy called Rayleigh Luffy uncle

[fossil mortar]

could easily be added in

[urban lodge]

Shiryu is simply wrong

[winter comet]

Bluejam is not associated with anyone he got murked by ace and Saran

[inner agate]

bluejam loses to children but can summon whirlpools

[urban lodge]

He was last seen in the burning grey terminal and was never confirmed dead, I'm cooking

[winter comet]

Dadsn

[lofty fern]

Some woman that could stand Garp, which is amazing

[ashen perch]

yeah, debuted in 1156 too, which btw is a hundred chapters after the Burn Scar was mentioned.....

[urban lodge]

He took the poneglyph so Luffy couldn't become pirate king

[fossil mortar]

someone better ask in a sbs

[sweet anvil]

Would’ve been a good theory if the MMBF wasn’t barbel

[winter comet]

Had to check, u are right he wasn’t confirmed dead

[urban lodge]

Barbell was killed offscreen by Sunbell

[glass plume]

i don't think he had a problem with getting ladies

[sweet anvil]

Barbell no diffs him

[steel stirrup]

Is he affiliated with the WG at all

[winter comet]

Dumbell shot bro

[ashen perch]

Mom Marked by Flames is the truth

[winter comet]

No

[urban lodge]

He wasn't 12 years ago but hey, maybe he is now

[lofty fern]

Eh...Garp's married to the job, usually a big turn off for women.

[fossil mortar]

arsal not cooking

[potent pier]

She came in during chapter 1156

[sweet anvil]

I don’t think the affiliation the the Wg is meant to be taken as fact

[potent pier]

Still when does she appear again in this flashback?

[sweet anvil]

It’s shiryus theory

[steel stirrup]

I know its rumors but the only info we have rn is Lafittes rumors and they were saying bro is WG affiliated

[glass plume]

i think Garp could charm them

[urban lodge]

Yeah it's just Shiryu speculating

[winter comet]

Oh yh 12 years ago hell nah he ain’t the man, u can’t do allat in 12 years

[steel stirrup]

Yea rumors are rumors

[frozen aspen]

Well gotta have inherited his cute face from somewhere

[potent pier]

Hell even, how did dragon escape God valley?

[sweet anvil]

The factual info is blackship and whirlpools though

[steel stirrup]

Still

Only info we have at all

[glass plume]

probably by eating a fruit very, very soon

[frozen aspen]

Sure ashell isn't from Dragon's chopped face

[steel stirrup]

Yea

[winter comet]

He just a cheeky marine

He not with the pirates

[sweet anvil]

Dragon js majestic

[lofty fern]

I don't think Garp could charm a snake, much less a woman. He would be like Luffy but without the cute factor

[winter comet]

Dragon is so chopped fr

[potent pier]

Boa likes Luffy.

[winter comet]

Insomnia final boss

[inner agate]

i used to think it was davy jones back when davy jones was only mentioned in lrll

[urban lodge]

Luffy ran into a whirlpool right after leaving Dawn Island btw, the same place we last saw Bluejam

[frozen aspen]

If you are into men with no eyebrows and widows peaks sure

[steel stirrup]

Didn't he have like 20 girls around him when he was on vacation

[urban lodge]

I love this dumbass theory so much

[rich hornet]

Wym all three monkey generations have the same face

[fossil mortar]

nah dragon is chopped af

[lofty fern]

It was like 2 and they were ignoring him on the other side of the pool

[sweet anvil]

Dragon is majestic

[ornate tartan]

even the most chopped mfs in One Piece who have crazy designs can pull women

[sweet anvil]

He gets unlimited women

[potent pier]

Hey he looked fine in his 30s

[sweet anvil]

All the revolutionary girls fw dragon

[frozen aspen]

Rocks is the prime example

[fossil mortar]

rocks ain't chopped

[steel stirrup]

Even if he missed literally every other shot he took we know he made at least one basket

[fossil mortar]

now bb is

[sweet anvil]

Ok dragon is chopped but rocks isn’t lmao

[urban lodge]

He has the same exact face

[frozen aspen]

rocks as ugly bb he just isn't fat

[ashen perch]

Reminder that Burn Scar and Dragon are the only two characters in the series to possess a pitch black ship, that Dragon connection is inevitable, I am just thinking its his wife, thats all

[winter comet]

Rocks is chopped too

[sweet anvil]

Dragon is lowkey beyond chopped

[ornate tartan]

look at senor pink man

[potent pier]

We just need confirmation that Dragon met Tritoma in the past

[sweet anvil]

Blackbeard is chopped because he’s fat and has missing teeth

[winter comet]

He js a bit big

[fossil mortar]

huh interesting

it being a man is a rumour after all

[ashen perch]

the man part isnt even mentioned in the JP really

[steel stirrup]

Only non chopped mfs I've ever seen are Law and King tbh but that's just me

[fossil mortar]

though being able to create whirpools is crazy

[sweet anvil]

Whitebeard Whitebeard Whitebeard

[ashen perch]

Hi no Kizu is literally just Burn Scar, Flame Scar, Flame Mark, etc, not a gendered term

[lofty fern]

Some poor woman pitied him lol

[fossil mortar]

interesting

[steel stirrup]

Yea long hair Whitebeard and Du Rag Whitebeard is cool

[frigid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/whitebeard-laugh-one-piece-edward-newgate-young-gif-20832605

[steel stirrup]

She took one for the team huh

[sweet anvil]

21ft tall 5 bill bounty strongest fruit

[inner agate]

i think its in the florian triangle and thats why ships keep going missing there they keep getting hit by whirlpools

[fossil mortar]

maybe

[sweet anvil]

Pulled prime stussy btw

[winter comet]

Who is the most handsome

Might be uhhh

Ace

[frozen aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/cavendish-cavendish-one-piece-one-piece-dressrosa-beautiful-gif-12711446657234143449

[steel stirrup]

She took one for he whole world if thats the case

Garp doesn't get any, no Dragon

No Dragon, no Luffy

No Luffy no Dawn of the World

[winter comet]

Or Zoro

[winter comet]

Beautiful

[steel stirrup]

Imho King

[graceful grove]

chopper

[frozen aspen]

u forgot cavendish, guy looks straight outta a shojo

[fossil mortar]

king is a good one

cavendish for sure

[winter comet]

Oh yh king