also-manga

[hasty sable]

Oden is the worst shogun ever

[digital spear]

Idk if thats like the 2 big giant groups

There are warriors and non warriors

[glass plume]

Oden is so misunderstood it's not even funny

[ashen perch]

I dont think Oden knew Moria personally, let alone that he fought Kaido

[hasty sable]

If Moria was that strong and he still danced

He’s already an idiot

But that’s way over the top

[pulsar path]

Well I mean I though Harold and Rocks mention the galllu guys but also missing warriors idk lol I'm waiting till have the physical mangas for a reread lol

[latent hamlet]

Didn't Oden dance to maintain the "peace"?

[digital spear]

Why would that change

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/oSdsmEHTOPs.gif

[ashen perch]

and save the hostages, yes

[pulsar path]

They really do look alike

[hasty sable]

Lmfaooo

[digital spear]

First time seeing this, Moria looks scary top left lol

[ashen perch]

they were going to kill them all if Oden hadnt danced, that was pretty clearly shown in the flashback

[latent hamlet]

Also like
For all we know
The kaido vs moria thing happened in some bum fuck random island in the corner of the new world and by the time the news could have reached Oden, it could be too late

[ornate tartan]

moria has to have some ties to god valley via him having zombies of the dead rocks pirates

[hot cairn]

LOL

[hasty sable]

Bearing in mind that Kaido taking over is already Oden’s fault in the first place

[ashen perch]

it was in Ringo apparently, but Wano is a big place and its likely that Oden simply never learnt that a fight was taking place

[dense haven]

oden didn't know kaido was a fraud

[latent hamlet]

Fair
But then its like
You'd think Moria would beg Oden for help?
You think moria is actually even involved in wano specific stuff

The way I saw it
Moria vs Kaido was just standard pirate vs pirate beef

[digital spear]

Well he is

[ashen perch]

I think Moria didnt actually care about Wano personally, that part is going to be a myth lol

[latent hamlet]

I mean in regards to the specific wano story and not "oh you just happen to be a wano dood"

[hasty sable]

You’d think if Oden saw Kaido fighting a guy that had a solid chance of beating him that he would take that opportunity to do something but he’s a useless idiot so that probably didn’t cross his mind lol

[digital spear]

He stole Ryumas body and sword

[ashen perch]

the people at Ringo just believed he was on their side when his beef with Kaido was just pirate v pirate

[dense haven]

he's a kozuki ofc he cares

[glass plume]

i don't think that Moria and Oden had a good relationship with eachother

i think they didn't like eachother in fact

[dense haven]

he will help yamato soon

[latent hamlet]

But how does that relate to the oden vs kaido orochi scenario

[hasty sable]

It’s kind of an enemy of my enemy situation though surely, no?

[hot cairn]

me too, the fact that he stole Ryuma’s corpse and sword says it all

[hot cairn]

with what

[hasty sable]

If Kaido is enslaving your country and you’re basically begging them to leave then someone shows up that is as strong as Kaido, and you still don’t do anything? Lol

[digital spear]

Thats the thing, he probably didnt see it

[hasty sable]

He deserved to boil

[glass plume]

do we know exactly when Moria vs Kaido took place

[digital spear]

23 years ago

[glass plume]

couldn't it have been when Oden was off with Roger or Whitebeard

[dense haven]

I mean what are they gonna do with his corpse? moria has better uses for it

[hasty sable]

Nah it was during the time Oden was back

[digital spear]

No it wasnt we saw it during the fb

[latent hamlet]

Clearly Moria's better use was NOT using it to help wano lol

[hasty sable]

If Oren didn’t notice Kaido mobilizing to fight a powerful enemy then he wasn’t paying as much attention as we were told lol

He definitely knew the battle was happening

[ashen perch]

its really pretty simple, Moria had nothing to lose

[hasty sable]

He probably just didn’t take the risk and kept naively trusting Orochi to leave

[iron oriole]

Oden was busy dancing

[glass plume]

maybe Oda didn't think it through

[dense haven]

he was building a zombie army to get back at kaido but luffy ruined it

[final trench]

Exactly

[ashen perch]

Oden cared about the civilians that Orochi would have instantly executed if he went to war against him, Moria was just an outsider pirate as far as Kaido was aware

[final trench]

He was finna EXTERMINATE kaido

[dense haven]

luffy ended up causing more suffering in wano

[glass plume]

am i the only one who feels like Moria being a Kozuki is a bit of an afterthought perhaps

[brittle basin]

it is

[ashen perch]

no I think it was planned

[digital spear]

Gecko backwards is Kozuki

[hasty sable]

It’s just Oda having a complexity addiction as usual

[final trench]

I mean why else would be near wano

[dense haven]

moria and perona will join yamato

[hasty sable]

I don’t think he “planned it”

[final trench]

Or even defend them

[hasty sable]

As in I highly doubt the Moria we saw in Thriller Bark was meant to be from Wano

[brittle basin]

he did not plan it, but he added it into the story to make it fit. he probably had an epiphany during the post-ts and decided to make use of Moria

[urban lodge]

The kanji thing is kinda crazy tho

[ashen perch]

Moria and Wano have been linked together since Moria was introduced, and then theres the name being a very very obvious clue in hindsight

[digital spear]

He was the first character ever to mention Wano tho

[urban lodge]

I think he did plan it

[hasty sable]

I don’t trust Oda

In fact I hate him

[ashen perch]

I know

[hot cairn]

You think Oda always had that in mind?

[ashen perch]

yeah

[digital spear]

This is a very easy thing to trust tho so you must really hate him

[brittle basin]

maybe i'm wrong then. wano was first mention in thriller? maybe it was planned then

[digital spear]

Yes

[ashen perch]

yeah

[hasty sable]

I think he might have had it in mind when he finally got to Wano

[brittle basin]

I know he had Ryuma, but I just brushed that off as a coincidence for the sake of Zoro and nothing more

[tranquil blade]

I could see Oda planning Moria having a connection to Wano and I hate him

[hasty sable]

I definitely will not like it if he can read Poneglyphs though

[wraith mantle]

So how was strong was prime Moria

Was he Yonko level

[digital spear]

Yes

[steel stirrup]

Why you ain't say something then bitch?

[wraith mantle]

Roger level?

[hasty sable]

Dressrosa Luffy level

[tranquil blade]

Like 60-70% as strong as prime Kaido

[dense haven]

oda not allowing moria in wano was by far the biggest mistake in that shit storm of mistakes

[digital spear]

Idk maybe not

[digital spear]

^

[hot cairn]

why tho? That’s kinda peak

[ashen perch]

I think Prime Moria was on the level of the Kaido from 25 years ago, this Kaido is not the same as present day Kaido

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/j-jbtzxclsv-lol-jbtzxclsv-laugh-jbtzxclsv-ctha-god-lol-donnell-rawlins-gif-14310738

[wraith mantle]

But dressrosa Luffy was one shot by kaido

[steel stirrup]

Lmaooooo

[wraith mantle]

Moria seem to have gone toe to toe with kaido

[tranquil blade]

Why are you mad

[digital spear]

Goda moment if Buggy gets Moria as ponglyph reader

[steel stirrup]

/j

[barren token]

Wait no moria being the worst thing about wano might make wano top 1

[ashen perch]

Moria doesnt have to be Yonko level for him to be equal to Kaido from 25 years ago

[hot cairn]

so glue

[steel stirrup]

Yall dont like Moria?

[hasty sable]

I hate it. There are too many people that can read them. I could excuse Sukiyaki because he’s from Wano. Moria is a pirate that’s never set foot there as far as we know, aside from his strike against Kaido.

[ashen perch]

because not even Kaido was Yonko level back then

[tranquil blade]

I like Moria

[digital spear]

We, yes we, all love Moria

[brittle basin]

i like moria

[hasty sable]

I like Moria but he is being overwritten to hell if he can read glyphs

[ashen perch]

I love Moria

[tranquil blade]

What does "overwritten" mean lol

[glass plume]

i like Moria

[wraith mantle]

Moria is aite

[steel stirrup]

I fw Moria even before this Kozuki shit came out I just dont like who he associates with (Absalom and Hogback)

[hasty sable]

It means your face

[tranquil blade]

Okay

[digital spear]

Is this the manga equivalent to overanimated

[cold steppe]

Moria commercial

[hot cairn]

too many people? There’s like only 3 people alive who can read them. Robin, Pudding (if awakened) and Sukiyaki

[brittle basin]

buggy needs someone to read the poneglphs and moria is available

[tranquil blade]

So it's a fake complaint?

[leaden rivet]

Normal Kuina burns my eyes

[glass plume]

"this character has better writing than the character i like, i cannot allow it!.."

[hasty sable]

Robin is fine and Pudding is fine and Sukiyaki is fine

Moria isn’t

[ashen perch]

I dont think he is reading poneglyphs personally, I am a firm believer of the Kuros-Guild idea where Buggy ends up forming an alliance with BB to get his glyphs and reader

[hot cairn]

I don’t like he’s design but he’s def an interesting character

[tranquil blade]

I made sure to choose the 2nd brightest green too

[barren token]

Moria is just kinda

[ashen perch]

we'll see though

[digital spear]

There should be more im glad there are more than Robin

Moria allegedly was raised in Wano

[barren token]

Too lame to read them

[dense haven]

why do people think moria can read poneglyph

[glass plume]

Kozuki

[tranquil blade]

Most of the glyph readers are lame why does that matter

[steel stirrup]

Looking back on Thriller Bark, Moria told Luffy they weren't ready and he was right

[hasty sable]

Why would he be raised in Wano?

[brittle basin]

how does buggy get a reader through this? pudding? or moria?

[ashen perch]

Pudding

[digital spear]

Because the coverstory said it

[brittle basin]

!patterns

[tropic nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/486983010025996299/728691851556552744/unknown.png

[hasty sable]

Why did we never hear about him during Oden’s flashback?

[barren token]

Buggy doesn't need a reader

[wraith mantle]

If there was a one piece betting site, I would put 500 on Moria can read the stones

[dense haven]

I don't think moria was raised in wano

[hasty sable]

Ugh this twist sucks

[brittle basin]

wouldn't bb still need a reader?

[digital spear]

Thats a GREAT question that I am also waiting for

[urban lodge]

I think it's a really cool twist

[steel stirrup]

He has Pudding

She has to awaken first tho

[brittle basin]

but in this intance arsal mentioned, buggy gets her

[ashen perch]

its shared, thats the idea of the alliance

[barren token]

I don't think he was raised in wano it even spent that long there lol

[hasty sable]

I honestly hope that Moria being Kozuki is just trivia that won’t matter in the story

[brittle basin]

oh i thought you meant it was some trade lol

[ashen perch]

nahh

[digital spear]

Apparently he was raised in Ringo

[hasty sable]

Moria doesn’t need all that

[steel stirrup]

Ohh

I think Moria is gonna take his talents to South Beac- i mean Cross Guild

[digital spear]

I need it.

[barren token]

I think he showed up, lied about being kouki like usopp lied to the tontattas, lost and dipped

[brittle basin]

hmmm but if they both want the OP, why would either want the other to have any advantage whatsoever?

[barren token]

Where is this from?

[hasty sable]

He can just be a fat loser pirate who gets to not be a loser for one final moment in the end

[digital spear]

Coverstory

[ashen perch]

they said that the hero of the grave was raised in Ringo

the Pirate of Justice

[hasty sable]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-squidward-krusty-krab-training-video-poop-gif-13429955355820746777

[steel stirrup]

The Kozuki only teach one son per generation so Moria knowing how to read them isn't actually very likely unless he was like the only "son" around before he "died"

[lofty fern]

https://tenor.com/view/really-mhm-whatever-dont-care-gif-14311338872635812139

[tranquil blade]

This is like when Pharaohs would say they had a dream that said they must rule and everyone believed them

[digital spear]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-bob-esponja-gif-2904459546447199840

[hasty sable]

We had a hidden Kouzuki all along that was never mentioned

Goda

[digital spear]

I wish I could have done that

[steel stirrup]

Moria was fighting at the same time Oden was dancing wasn't he?

[digital spear]

Yes

[barren token]

Moria actually being from wano is kinda fucked he should have just usopped there asses

[brittle basin]

Why does the woman on the left pre-emptively move before squidward moves?

[lofty fern]

I think the Moria thing is just going to end up an SBS funny story for Oda

[ashen perch]

I am thinking we must wait for more information yea, some of it could be lies lol

[steel stirrup]

Kozuki only teach one son per generation and Sakuyaki taught Oden. You think he taught Moria too before he "died"?

[hasty sable]

Moria being the only good Kozuki because he didn’t dance like an idiot for five years

Whatever I love Moria now

[tranquil blade]

One of them made a whole carving and everything about the dream he had, "it came to me in a dream" is a several thousand year old lie

[barren token]

Moria also lied about being raised in ringo

[trim lily]

considering moria stole their treasured hero i can’t imagine he respected wano too much

[steel stirrup]

Idk if Moria can actually read the poneglyphs tbh

[digital spear]

She has future sight

[rich hornet]

It’s passed down from “generation to generation”

[lofty fern]

Just like how Queen being Franky's dad has 0 impact in the story, Moria being from Wano will be the same

[hasty sable]

Moria being the descendant of one of the Wano samurai that left the island and coming back to claim it would be cooler

[steel stirrup]

Only taught to one son per generation tho

[barren token]

Moria is the son of Oden

[rich hornet]

We really don’t know

[steel stirrup]

Oden confirmed that

[tranquil blade]

What if Moria is Sukiyaki's bastard child

[dense haven]

it's a corpse would you rather let the worms eat it

[trim lily]

well i wouldn’t go that far, one is just a fun fact in an sbs while the other was explicitly shown off in a cover story

[hasty sable]

Why does he look like that though

[hot cairn]

the cover story said he was raised in ringo

[rich hornet]

Whatever the tradition is, the Kozuki thing opens the door to poneglyph knowlegde

[steel stirrup]

Oden said himself the language is only passed down to one son per generation

[glass plume]

i'm so glad this coverstory is over btw

[dense haven]

even oden is having dinner with corpses

[lofty fern]

He was born in the west not Wano. Sukiyaki has never left wano

[digital spear]

All the info from the grave. Odas fault for people forgetting details if he spreads it across 3 covers with billions of breakweeks and colorspreads between them

[hot cairn]

there is a stock market one lol

close enough

[hasty sable]

Moria took the name of the pirate of jusrice to raise Wano against Kaido. It didn’t work because he’s weak and ugly,

The real Moria Kozuki was a historical figure

[lofty fern]

Queen was actually in the manga, so it feels like more than a fun fact. I think Moria will just be a fun fact of the cover story

[urban lodge]

I forgot about stockpiece

I wonder how it's doing now

[hasty sable]

I feel like there is not a chance Moria is really that person

[stone terrace]

Moria fr scammed a tomb

[trim lily]

it’d be extremely bizarre to introduce a relatively big part of moria in the manga then never acknowledge or do anything with it

[stone terrace]

"Heroic pirate of justice" 🤣

[tranquil blade]

The market crashed

[urban lodge]

Lol

[dense haven]

I knew something wasn't right lol I vaguely remember the west blue part

[steel stirrup]

I've seen a theory no mi that he actually died fighting Kaido and Hogback revived him for whatever reason

[lofty fern]

There are people that are introduced in cover stories that never come into the manga. I think it's just Oda having fun

[hot cairn]

“raised in ringo” @hasty sable

[iron oriole]

Moria to CG so they can have a Ponegylph reader

[dense haven]

so yea moria is adopted

[steel stirrup]

I don't think he can tbh

He might tho

[glass plume]

what if Buggy can read poneglyphs with his nose

[hasty sable]

Born in the west blue and raised in Ringo

[ocean sigil]

Actually buggy wrote the first poneglyph in history

[gentle terrace]

What if Magellan can read ponoglyphs

[glass plume]

his great great great great great great grandfather did, yeah

[iron oriole]

Buggy is a Poneglyph

[vapid gazelle]

What if buggy is Kuina

[dense haven]

dw mihawk is the cg reader

[ocean sigil]

We didnt see yet but the new user of the time fruit will awaken the fruit and will be able to send one person back in time by sacrificing his own life.
This person sent back will be Buggy aka Nika

[steel stirrup]

Kozuki only teach 1 son per generation

Not all of their children

But if Oden was considered disowned at the time I guess I could see Sukiyaki teaching Moria

[glass plume]

Buggy was the exception

[iron oriole]

Actually God King Buggy doesn't need someone to read them

He'll just find it anyway

[glass plume]

sure, maybe that's what his special eyes are for

[hot cairn]

I love color spreads but that was so annoying during this part LOL

[hasty sable]

I actually don’t care if he can read pony cliffs

[brittle basin]

I'm slow and just now noticed the "ZZZZ..." that was the Shanks treasure chest.

[steel stirrup]

I would like for CG to have their own reader to keep it fair but unless theres some hoops that we didnt see get jumped thru narratively, I don't see it happening.

[digital spear]

Lol

[glass plume]

wonder what Shamrock is doing

[digital spear]

I didnt notice either

[ocean sigil]

Damn good eye

[formal wagon]

do you remember that eggheac ens in december

[digital spear]

We dont get colorspreads often but SUDDENLY Oda spams them

[iron oriole]

I wonder who the reader is for Shanks' crew

[dense haven]

bunch of speedreaders in chat

[hot cairn]

that was so funny, back to back too LOL

[hasty sable]

Shanks will just cheat

[tranquil blade]

Yeah there was like 6 of them weren't there? maybe more

[hasty sable]

Or fight at Lodestar

[glass plume]

https://tenor.com/view/thinking-hmm-gorilla-monkey-idk-gif-10802359271088289051

[steel stirrup]

I would love for it to be Monster lmao

[digital spear]

Maybe like 1 more

[iron oriole]

Please let it be Monster

[stone terrace]

Monster

[vapid gazelle]

Rockstar

[iron oriole]

Fuck Rockstar

[vapid gazelle]

Fuck you

[digital spear]

Rockstar works for Blackbeard he will lie about it

[tranquil blade]

Rockstar is the traitor

[iron oriole]

He's a BB plant

[steel stirrup]

Please Oda let Monster be the Poneglyph Reader for the Red Hairs

[hot cairn]

Lodestar Arc Soon

[pine ridge]

I wouldnt be surprised if it's shanks

[iron oriole]

You know what, same

[glass plume]

what if it's Ben Beckman

[steel stirrup]

That's fine

[tranquil blade]

It's Lucky Roux

[glass plume]

he seems knowledgable abotu stuff

[formal wagon]

bem bemman

[ocean sigil]

I first thought he saw Kids father here and is going to rescue him

[vapid gazelle]

what if shanks doesnt have a poneglyph reader?

[hasty sable]

Lodestar and Laugh Tale will be the same arc I think

[steel stirrup]

Lucky Roux is the sleeper pick

[stone terrace]

If saul can read poneglyphs shanks couldve been on elbaf to talk to him

[hot cairn]

how tho?

[hasty sable]

Final war happening on those two islands

[digital spear]

Yes. Yes. The seed I planted is growing

[formal wagon]

lucky goo

[iron oriole]

I like how Oda hid Ganzui's lower half

[steel stirrup]

You really think so?

[formal wagon]

rockstar

[hasty sable]

All the emperors will meet at Lodestar and have a big war over the poneglyphs that will stretch out onto Laugh Tale

[hot cairn]

what about the world sinking

[digital spear]

Yes

[ocean sigil]

Wasn't he half elephant in Thriller Bark or was he normal?

[hasty sable]

That’ll be part of it since Blackbeard is getting the other two ancient weapons first

[hot cairn]

I see

[steel stirrup]

Any evidence to back it up or just vibes

[iron oriole]

Idr the animal but yeah

[hasty sable]

All the factions are meeting at Lodestar

[iron oriole]

Elephant/Hippo bottom half or whatever

[ocean sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/brown-beard-punk-hazard-brownbeard-alligator-pirate-gif-1121196639110112919

[digital spear]

Vibes with like 0.1% evidence like all the good theories

[formal wagon]

elephant

[iron oriole]

I got the panel somewhere

[tranquil blade]

Well he does have "Rocks" in his name that's good enough for me

[ocean sigil]

We need a second thriller bark arc

[tranquil blade]

Definitely a traitor

[hot cairn]

Yonko battle royal at lodestar. Do you think the navy and the WG will get involved?

[digital spear]

^

[tranquil blade]

[hasty sable]

Elbaf arc -> Vira arc -> Lodestar/Laugh Tale

[stone terrace]

Rockstar has closer hair to silhouette rocks than actual rocks does

[steel stirrup]

I was waiting for someone to say that

[glass plume]

Rockstar is the real Rocks, Xebec was a fraud

[stone terrace]

Stay woke

[fallen meteor]

[ocean sigil]

Dont forget Moon arc

[hasty sable]

That’s in Two Piece

[hot cairn]

you believe in Vira?

[dapper tree]

Admrials vs yonko finally

[ornate tartan]

💀

[hasty sable]

I’m a Vira truther

[hot cairn]

the debate will finally end

[ocean sigil]

I can accept that

[urban lodge]

Rocks + Eris D Tar = Rockstar

[hasty sable]

That’s where the last Poneglyph is

[tranquil blade]

All for them to actually not fight so Oda doesnt have to give a real answer

[hasty sable]

Dragon has it

[glass plume]

Eris D. Tar sounds so shit

[brittle basin]

good sticker

[fallen meteor]

[steel stirrup]

Is this Penny???

Cooking???

Who knew

[hot cairn]

you think Dragon is the burn scar man?

[brittle basin]

What the hell is Rockstar?

[hasty sable]

Probably

[urban lodge]

I always cook smh but that's a meme theory

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/rockstar-rockstar-one-piece-one-piece-red-hair-pirates-red-hair-gif-7895599174493927433

[hot cairn]

I think the burn scar man is actively at sea

[hasty sable]

Unless it’s a new character I don’t see other options

[dapper tree]

Best red haired pirate

[rare ivy]

Is Rockstar Teach’s brother?

[fallen meteor]

the most sus dude

[ornate tartan]

Rockstar from shanks crew @brittle basin

[brittle basin]

that's not a real character

[glass plume]

it should be a new character tbh

[hot cairn]

and can only be found in the water

[rare ivy]

Davy D Rockstar

Let’s go

[glass plume]

the man marked by flames should be a badass fishman

[tranquil blade]

He was the one to deliver Shanks' message to Whitebeard

[rare ivy]

[glass plume]

who has been forced to do this

[formal wagon]

cottagecore cozymaxxing farming sim with naval combat and naval combat inspired graphics, and ps2 jrpg inspired naval combat

[hasty sable]

Firescar

[tranquil blade]

Who Whitebeard then told to fuck off

[formal wagon]

damn, whitebeard savage

[brittle basin]

mentally redacted

[steel stirrup]

Thanks I hate it

[tranquil blade]

It's over

[stone terrace]

Bro described stardew valley

[formal wagon]

one piece maxxing

[tranquil blade]

This is minecraft with like 3 mods

[glass plume]

do people still play Minecraft?

[digital spear]

Developers who make such games deserve death

[formal wagon]

mindcraft

[hot cairn]

Sunbell? @digital spear

[tranquil blade]

Mailbox why do you have that weird font on your name

[hasty sable]

Skyrim is the only game you need

[glass plume]

no, someone cooler

[digital spear]

Yes

[digital spear]

Hated that arc

[stone terrace]

I have no idea what minecraft numbers look like. Im sure its dropped from its peak but a game like that will always have a playerbase

[wet heron]

TURE

[rare ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/stuff-gif-25438540

[formal wagon]

you can do that. icon's name is different font too

[ornate tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-judge-judge-one-piece-vinsmoke-judge-germa-gif-9497045290367920978

[digital spear]

So ture b3zsie

[tranquil blade]

I'm pretty sure nuclear war could be happening and there would still be someone playing minecraft

[hot cairn]

you also believe in Vira hathor?

[fallen meteor]

seemingly so, i bethink

[wet heron]

benis

[tranquil blade]

and a russian playing csgo

[stone terrace]

I can never commit to a full playthrough these days but fudgemuppet videos keep me going

[wet heron]

oh def since mailbox is online rn I assume.

[formal wagon]

im pretty sure a nuclear war could be happening and some guy could just be eating a sandwich because he's hungry 😭

[wet heron]

VIRA ARC NEXT

[urban lodge]

Meme is dead, time to find a new one mailbox

[brittle basin]

me

[tropic nova]

Vira arc?

1️⃣ Yes

2️⃣ No

yogurtcan · Nov 1, 2025, 6:14 PM

[wet heron]

u can't call something that's been never alive dead.

so VIRA

[dapper tree]

Vira got nuked

Not sorry

[wet heron]

ratio'd

[stone terrace]

4 idiots

[formal wagon]

vira truthers will win

[dapper tree]

Win nothing

[tranquil blade]

Vira is like Hachinosu 2.0

[stone terrace]

Luffy is literally gonna get one shot and then hauled to vira

[digital spear]

I guess that decides it

[stone terrace]

Where sabo and vivi will be waiting

[digital spear]

Everything finally falls into place

[stone terrace]

https://preview.redd.it/strength-portrayal-and-prospective-heights-flame-emperor-v0-0c55zkiouxyb1.png?width=974&format=png&auto=webp&s=65db803e5b5f344d02c20d966bae624261290cf2

[hot cairn]

cant never tell if people are fr or not

[digital spear]

This is Vira

[hot cairn]

with the Vira stuff

[tranquil blade]

Dragon is washed?

[stone terrace]

If he maybe did stuff himself he could get this hype

[tranquil blade]

Idk me personally I could never have an underling upstaging me

[hot cairn]

I wonder where Oda is going with this

[formal wagon]

vira

[wet heron]

as long as we get vira

[formal wagon]

good question

[wet heron]

and we head towards mariejois nex

[grand flower]

@hot cairn @digital spear @ashen perch @stone tulip

[wet heron]

[digital spear]

Dragon is jealous of Sabo because he took all his flow and wants to kill him so the villain of Vira is Dragon and Luffy has to defeat him with Sabo

[stone terrace]

These swords are so goofy man

[digital spear]

Gear 5 is made out of sake...

[grand flower]

When Oda dodges the question, it means someone tapped into something

[digital spear]

Peak

[grand flower]

The alcohol bridges

[trim lily]

imagine buying a sword that can only cut

[wet heron]

lmaooo

[hot cairn]

is this the Luffy binks sake theory

[digital spear]

Koshiro would be more mad than a woman being successful

[tranquil blade]

If the WG was smart they'd try to manufacture a split in the Revos

[grand flower]

Yes lol

I took this one too but decided not to send it

[trim lily]

sabo is doing that already so it all works out

[digital spear]

EVIL SABO

[tranquil blade]

Sabo is a WG asset

[trim lily]

psychopath sabo is real

[stone terrace]

Youre saying theyre treating sabo like the thalmor treated ulfric stormcloak

[hot cairn]

I see

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-anime-personabeys-personabey-realization-gif-25244102

[tranquil blade]

Idk what that means but sure

[ornate tartan]

shuron cooking
sake is a big thing in the story

[stone terrace]

Someone will get that

[digital spear]

So what I said with Dragon being the Vira villain happens but plottwist: Dragon tries to tell Luffy that he doesnt understand ... and in the last moment, a pipe goes through Luffys chest

[formal wagon]

i wanted evil sabo so bad

[stone terrace]

Id like sabo to carve out his own path

[trim lily]

what if sabo really did kill cobra

[formal wagon]

i had such an awesome headcanon

[trim lily]

he was lying in his flashback

[stone terrace]

Instead of dragons trusty #2 yeah

[frozen ravine]

What if evil Sabo had the water fruit

[digital spear]

He will carve in more heads for sure

[grand flower]

Hell yeah dude

[formal wagon]

i thought sabo was going to be like a radical murder loving rev and vivi would act as his foil

[hasty sable]

Skippiea

[latent hamlet]

"Guys hes luffy secret brother who is bestie with his dad"

[trim lily]

same

[hot cairn]

this can still happen tho

[trim lily]

i was actually pretty excited

[latent hamlet]

Sabo feels so eh to me

[hasty sable]

@ashen perch I love Moria Kozuki now

[hot cairn]

it can still happen

[ashen perch]

Oh good for you

[trim lily]

i have absolutely zero faith in oda going down that route

sabo is being painted as the revo protagonist

[stone terrace]

Theres no way oda is gonna turn luffys brother into a murder hobo

Id love to see it

[glass plume]

Sabo is cool

[stone terrace]

But no shot

[hasty sable]

Sabo could have killed Cobra for real and it would have been cool

[formal wagon]

nah it seems pretty clear to me that oda's going to portray it as the masses taking the revolution in that route despite sabo and dragon being against it.

[hot cairn]

he still said that he didnt care about Cobra’s death

[digital spear]

Behind the stages: The dark mystery of One Piece servers brainwashing

[hot cairn]

perhaps

[ashen perch]

Sabo should kill people but not Cobra lol

[trim lily]

yeah but dragon was also like "hm oh well!"

[glass plume]

Sabo has killed people

[hasty sable]

I think the Revos are a little too clean

[ashen perch]

That would have reflected poorly on them when he's like, the nicest king ever in the series

[hasty sable]

They’d be a lot cooler if they did messy things

[trim lily]

well they did set mariejois on fire (allegedly)

[ashen perch]

They're trying to starve the Celestials tbf

To their death, probably

[warm cradle]

Smort on dragon's part

[trim lily]

im hoping oda actually goes somewhere with the ideological split between the revo masses and what dragon wants

[glass plume]

he has totally killed people

[trim lily]

im scared it wont really be acknowledged

[stone terrace]

this is like top 5 most moral things ever

[trim lily]

hes a freak

[digital spear]

It would also need to be logical, killing Cobra isnt really a smarter decision than killing any other king

[warm cradle]

I dunno,a cracked skull isn't a guaranteed death in this manga

[hasty sable]

Killing Cobra did make like eight nations rise up at the same time

[trim lily]

i dont think it was cobra's death that triggered that

[warm cradle]

It was?

[digital spear]

They could just kill any of the other kings then

[warm cradle]

I don't think it was actually because of his death

[lofty fern]

I 100% believe Sabo has killed people

[stone terrace]

if an innocent king gets killed because of sabo "killing" cobra then i guess you can blame sabo for not clearing up the air

[hasty sable]

Yeah but killing Cobra is interesting because we know him as a “good king”

[stone terrace]

but at the same time, would people rise up against someone who is innocent

lol

[warm cradle]

Do the masses know of him as innocent?

[trim lily]

nope

thats why all the revo masses cheered him on, they view all royalty as evil

[warm cradle]

I thought it was known that nefeltari family is descending from the original 20

[glass plume]

part of the mass view him as a hero

the other half as a criminal

[lofty fern]

It was part of it because its known that the Nefertari could have been CDs, so his death was equated to the death of a CD

[digital spear]

Oda would need to establish why Cobra isnt a good king in the Revos eyes though, or why they kill him and not anyone else. Killing the good king just for the sake of it would just be for the shock value

[hasty sable]

He wouldn’t need to be a bad guy

[formal wagon]

this is where weevil comes in to fix everything

[hasty sable]

Just a moderate who stands for the status quo

[formal wagon]

he's our only real hope

[warm cradle]

Well did they ever say something of the sort about cobra not being a good king?

[lofty fern]

Well, they knew that Cobra's family was one of the 20, so it was especially special

[trim lily]

did they?

[ashen perch]

i don't think its meant to be much of a split, just Oda depicting the very real phenomenon of the masses and the people leading them not being 1:1 aligned ideologically, Dragon and Sabo are willing to still accept them under their umbrella because anything that furthers the revolution is a net positive.

[warm cradle]

Because their reactions when cobra's death was reported wasn't happy by a long shot

[trim lily]

wasnt it common knowledge the nefertari arent in mariejois

[digital spear]

No and according to Brook, Alabasta kings were never criticized apparently

[formal wagon]

davy jones and joyboy are weak wills that couldn't get the job done the first time. We need some new blood. Its weevil o'clock.

[ashen perch]

Dragon himself spoke positively of Cobra

[warm cradle]

Idk if that would convince the masses tbh

[warm cradle]

Yeah

[ocean sigil]

One Piece: Kapitel 1152, Seite 12
Chronologically, this scene comes after this chapter, right?

[warm cradle]

He said he wouldn't forgive sabo if he really killed cobra

[trim lily]

but then it begs the question of what happens at the end when they take down the CDs and government

[digital spear]

Yes

[tranquil blade]

Yes

[ruby moat]

If roger is so strong why didn’t he just beat the disease

[trim lily]

what about all the revo masses who want to go further and remove monarchies

[tranquil blade]

Like 24 years after this chapter

[cold steppe]

Oda fell off

[ocean sigil]

So we might not be done with this flashback after gods valley

[trim lily]

yeah

[barren token]

Of course not

[digital spear]

We definitely wont

[warm cradle]

Wasn't it obvious?

[trim lily]

we've still got some chaps of harald and loki

[ocean sigil]

No it wasn't Lil mug

[trim lily]

this is the loki/harald flashback remember

[ashen perch]

I don't think those revolutionaries want to remove the monarchies though, just the original 20 that they see as the creators of the current world order

[cold steppe]

Yeah we still in a flashback within a flashback

[warm cradle]

Pretty sure it was

[hasty sable]

Dragon defender of the ruling class incoming

[barren token]

Back in my day this was a harold flashback

[digital spear]

Genuinely like 6-7 chapters flashback left probably

[ocean sigil]

Loki flashback with 1 chapter of him so far

[trim lily]

but why would average civillians who struggled under corrupt monarchies care about the 20 original kings?

[tranquil blade]

I mean I'd say monarchies are just as prone to corruption so I can absolutely see why people want to get rid of them

[ashen perch]

Because they are the Celestial Dragons leading the WG

[barren token]

They just want to get rid of the wg

[warm cradle]

Maybe see that as the source

[barren token]

Specifically the CDs

[warm cradle]

Btw did y'all see the sbs for this latest volume

[lofty fern]

Yeah, but them just being connected to CDs is powerful

[digital spear]

Yep

[ashen perch]

The 20 created the WG, 19 of them still lead it, Nefertari leaving Marie Geoise doesn't forgive the crime of still being one of the creators

Yea Kurouma said it there

[cold steppe]

Not a lot left tho. Just Imu's plan for Harald, his death, then shanks capturing loki

I'd say 4 to 5 chapters

[warm cradle]

Wasn't it said that nefeltari were the last remaining of the original 20? Or am I misremembering

[lofty fern]

That's probably a good thing. The vast majority of them are crooked and under the influence and thumb of the CDs

[digital spear]

I guess Sabo killing Cobra would make sense if the general public sees Cobra as one of the CDs as well

[ashen perch]

No, all the Celestial Dragons are the descendants of the original 20

[trim lily]

dragon explicitly acknowledges this lol

[lofty fern]

No, he's the only one of the 20 in the lower realm, but all the others are what make up the CDs

[warm cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/luffy-one-piece-thinking-hmm-anime-gif-17275096

[ashen perch]

Yeah

[trim lily]

any king affiliated with the WG is an enemy to the revo masses

but yeah i suppose cobra would have extra meaning

[lofty fern]

And to be fair to Sabo...Dragon didn't do very well with say, King Becori

[ashen perch]

Yea, but as Kurouma points out there, its him being one of the creators that especially resonated with the masses

[stone terrace]

theres only 5 more chapters this year

[trim lily]

we're almost free of rocks

[digital spear]

Probably ends with God Valley

or a bit later

[ashen perch]

You think we got 5 more chapters of GV?

[warm cradle]

Nah

[ornate tartan]

god valley ends NEXT chapter😂

[ashen perch]

I mean I wish but I think we've only got 3 left

[barren token]

3

[trim lily]

id say we have 2-3 more

[warm cradle]

I would assume 1 or 2 more at best tbh

[trim lily]

this time for sure

[digital spear]

You know what fuck you we get 20 more chapters

[ashen perch]

Lmao

[digital spear]

You didnt let me finish

This is all your fault

Its over

[ornate tartan]

when we come back from the break the elbaph portion will start probably

[lofty fern]

We've got a chapter this week! Hooray!

[ashen perch]

5 more chapters would be nice though

Because I'm finally liking this

And it can't end now when I'm finally liking it

[trim lily]

i really just want to get back to loki and harald

[glass plume]

i want to know what Loki did those 8 years at sea

[trim lily]

or at least show me what everyone else on god valley is doing

[grand flower]

Same

[trim lily]

whats claw guy and shoujo prince up to

[warm cradle]

Who

[digital spear]

Everyone cares for this

No one cares for this 😔

[tranquil blade]

Dead

[grand flower]

Shoujo Prince my beloved

[rare ivy]

GV ends then we go back to flashback Elbaf, then Herald shit happens and then this flashback ends

[ashen perch]

1165 - Xebec v Roger and Garp
1166 - Xebec's death
1167 - conclusion/aftermatch/nuke

Is what I'm predicting

[ocean sigil]

We definitely still in flashback in 2026

[glass plume]

1169 - Imu's reveal

[rare ivy]

True

[trim lily]

iconic character

[digital spear]

I like the last one

• conclusion
• aftermath
• nuke
  Very normal things

[warm cradle]

This didn't age well

[lofty fern]

Think about what would have happened if Ginny had never gotten out her message.
The true MVP of god Valley

[stone terrace]

Snuggles >

[jade rain]

So we in fb for the rest of the year

[warm cradle]

Damn,who is that

[digital spear]

That would be during 1166 hopefully

[trim lily]

random holy knight that weve never seen again

[glass plume]

the REAL real MVP

[ashen perch]

1166 could be Imu's reveal tbh, maybe we cut to Marie Geoise and we see him in full for the first time as he prepares the nuke

[lofty fern]

Nah, it's still apropos. Roger still feeling salty over Ray right now

[urban lodge]

Getting the reveal in a flashback would be very weird

[ashen perch]

1160s were dominated by Imu, 1166 is the ultimate Imu number chapter

[warm cradle]

The rocks' part is what I mean

[lofty fern]

Ginny, yeah, I said that

[trim lily]

nah it feels like we're around that time

[glass plume]

oh yeeah true

[ashen perch]

Oda will never ever get 1166 again

Its now or never

[warm cradle]

Clown knights

[digital spear]

What if he writes until chapter 11166

[glass plume]

alright fine, i'll go along with it Morgans and Ginney are MVP's

[ornate tartan]

the art pre timeskip was so good man

[ocean sigil]

1075 - Kozuki Moria is born

Mark this chapter

[warm cradle]

Didn't know they worked at buggy's circus

[stone terrace]

wait guy on the left has the shoujo prince haircut

[glass plume]

people were worried for nothing

[ashen perch]

Doesn't work as well, its gotta be 111666 then

[rare ivy]

Which chapter number is Imu’s lucky number?

[lofty fern]

You know Gunko's too slithery for that. Plus she's got Brook in her corner. Luffy will have to fight nakama this time around

[ornate tartan]

16

[ocean sigil]

67

[ashen perch]

16 is his number, 1166 is the big one

[glass plume]

6666

[trim lily]

really curious who this is

theyre so short

[lofty fern]

Morgans would have nothing to work with if not for Ginny, so its still Ginny

[ashen perch]

He nuked Lulusia in 1060

[glass plume]

you refuse to cooperate, I see

then i'll just have to say KUWAHAHAHAHA

[urban lodge]

Remember the spoilers for that chapter? They were some of the funniest

[sage temple]

I guess bro

[trim lily]

the big mom and kaido knights

[urban lodge]

We had Cerberus Garling and Kaido and BM holy knights

[urban lodge]

Peak

[rare ivy]

1166 might be Imu’s favourite chapter then

[stone terrace]

Cerberus shit came out of thin air

[ashen perch]

But yeah, Imu getting revealed here would make sense

[glass plume]

Imu needs to be revealed, i'm desperate atp

[ornate tartan]

1166 will be the first chapter after the break

[urban lodge]

Whoever made those was kind of a visionary

[digital spear]

"Garling ate the cerberus fruit and its lets you eat multiple fruits. No Blackbeard has nothing to do with this"

[ashen perch]

Dont forget, the Imu design on Oda's desk

[trim lily]

they just hate blackbeard i think

[urban lodge]

It was so funny

[stone terrace]

wait what chapter was that

[ashen perch]

It was an indication that its happening soon

[glass plume]

which one?

[trim lily]

dont worry imu is going to be revealed in the next movie

[digital spear]

Its insane that Shamrock actually has a cerberus sword now

[trim lily]

better buy a ticket

[digital spear]

1086

[ashen perch]

Wdym which one, there's only one

[lofty fern]

https://tenor.com/view/wise-choice-chosen-indianajones-indiana-gif-6188189

[urban lodge]

Yeah they were cooking in a way

[glass plume]

yeah which one was the one

i don't remember every sketch he has on his desk

[warm cradle]

A hell hound

[stone terrace]

editor leaked that

[sage temple]

dudes itchin for a debate

[digital spear]

Snitch

[digital spear]

I keep thinking your pfp is a cup with a face on it

[warm cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/shanks-d-rat-snitch-devil-gif-10652128958513752883

[rare ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/imusama-one-piece-anime-imu-dendenmushi-gif-9030286606684580375

[lofty fern]

Does anyone still think Imu is a hot woman anymore?

[trim lily]

could be

[warm cradle]

It's apparently a man

[glass plume]

lmfao, i can see the crown i guess

[iron oriole]

People do

[trim lily]

i wouldn’t put it past oda

[willow pollen]

Someone mentioned me?

[digital spear]

Dark blob personally

[ashen perch]

I think Imu is a weird little creature

[warm cradle]

Letting a woman rule the world? Oda?

[willow pollen]

Nice robin pfp

[glass plume]

Imu should just be Satan atp

[willow pollen]

Nice makima pfp

[trim lily]

true…

[ashen perch]

Something like the iconic villain from Oda's favorite manga

[stone terrace]

everyone keeps calling imu a thing

[willow pollen]

Imu is definitely a hot woman

[stone terrace]

sooooooooo

[digital spear]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-luci-eric-andré-disenchantment-b-boy-dance-gif-2588362169845757982

[trim lily]

close enough

[digital spear]

This is Imu

[iron oriole]

This is where Oda makes Imu an Eldritch being inside of Lili's body

[rare ivy]

Imu still needs den den mushi to communicate. Imu downscale

[glass plume]

https://tenor.com/view/nodding-the-devil-the-cuphead-show-mm-hmm-yes-gif-27353437

this is Imu

[iron oriole]

Also true

[ashen perch]

Rocks is definitely staring at a monstrous weird little creature, he literally called him a monster

[urban lodge]

Imu is sexist so he can't be a woman

[lofty fern]

Please, if Imu was a woman she'd be all bent over, wrinkled and weak because she didn't get with the person she loved

[warm cradle]

Also apparently imu is referred to as "sei" which other male CD are referred to as And gunko as "gu" so

[willow pollen]

Imu can be a giant dark monster blob and a hot sexy woman at the same time guys this is oda we are talking about

[warm cradle]

True,where lili

[stone terrace]

if imu was hot rocks and roger wouldve done heart eyes so that theory is dead

[rare ivy]

Imu is shape shifter

[ashen perch]

That Vearth theory might be true honestly

[willow pollen]

In god valley she isn’t in the body that’s a hot sexy woman

[ashen perch]

He's giving me those vibes from the silhouettes

[willow pollen]

She’s occupying Saturns body

Theory disproved

[digital spear]

Exactly

Imu hangs around in Lilys body in Mariejois

[glass plume]

https://tenor.com/view/the-cuphead-show-cuphead-netflix-studio-mdhr-the-devil-gif-24859896

[iron oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/thecupheadshow-cuphead-mugman-the-devil-hello-gif-25173703

[willow pollen]

Yup

[glass plume]

Oda should let Imu have dark toonforce

[ashen perch]

Imu is gonna look like this but less stylized

[iron oriole]

This is how Imu rocked up to Elbaf

[digital spear]

https://tenor.com/view/the-cuphead-show-cuphead-netflix-studio-mdhr-the-devil-gif-24859930

Imu painting Mihawks sword

[tranquil blade]

Imu is not gonna be this chopped

[glass plume]

such a peak character design

[rare ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-imu-sama-im-gif-13670401567269887162

[ashen perch]

Well yea, but I think this statue may have been based off his real look

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/gladiator-commodus-joaquin-phoenix-twirling-gif-16139769

[willow pollen]

So basically Imu was in love with Lilly and joyboy pranked him by trapping him in Lilly’s body so he can never have a relationship with her but because vivi looks exactly like her Imu finally has someone he can replace lily as his soon to be wife

[stone terrace]

that gif is fried what the hell

[digital spear]

https://tenor.com/view/excited-the-devil-the-cuphead-show-giddy-thrilled-gif-27353443

[ashen perch]

I think the Vearth statue is a highly stylized version of Imu

[willow pollen]

I mean of course it’s from ancient Roman times

[glass plume]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-laugh-the-devil-the-cuphead-show-hehehe-scheming-laugh-gif-27338961

[willow pollen]

What did you expect

[warm cradle]

Yuri incoming

[digital spear]

https://tenor.com/view/zalaad-gif-10933451705657595850

[urban lodge]

If Oda isn't a coward Davy Jones killed Lily

[trim lily]

he famously is one

[willow pollen]

Guys

Oda already revealed imus design

[urban lodge]

But he'll probably be a wholesome chugus good boy

[warm cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-egghead-egghead-luffy-luffy-ishowspeed-gif-15751675689412566529

[willow pollen]

Just now actually

Imu

[digital spear]

Already preparing for the next Rocks situation

[trim lily]

it’s them

[glass plume]

if Oda wasn't a coward, Imu and Lily would've had mutual feelings for eachother and Davy Jones fucked it up

[urban lodge]

Yeah at least I'll see it coming this time

[lofty fern]

I'm pretty sure Joyboy was dead before Lily disappeared, so hey, at least that can't happen

[stone terrace]

CD vivi makes me uncomfortable

[trim lily]

that’s her true self

[warm cradle]

She jumped on the CD hype train

[digital spear]

this is the good future imo

[willow pollen]

She’s so pretty

[glass plume]

https://tenor.com/view/robin-robin-one-piece-nico-robin-one-piece-one-piece-film-gold-gif-9410417853756219707

[lofty fern]

It's amazing how being a CD just makes you uglier by default

[ashen perch]

Davy Jones is gonna be an even better person than Rocks, he might be a saint actually

Just to annoy you penny

[trim lily]

except for the knights apparently

[warm cradle]

Not guaranteed

[lofty fern]

Why couldn't Vivi look like Shalria?

[urban lodge]

[frigid gulch]

Davy Jones gets 2x the glaze Rocks did

[ashen perch]

Well atleast BB still sucks right

[stone terrace]

pirate vivi is super peak goddamn it oda

[digital spear]

Shalria will look like that too when shes old (except if she becomes good)

[ashen perch]

I mean the slavery is pretty bad

[warm cradle]

Same as santoryu nami but oda isn't good enough for making it true

[digital spear]

Once again the bad future is cooler and more fun

[glass plume]

Blackbeard is uninteresting, but i won't go farther into it

[trim lily]

blackbeard is a little unwholesome

[iron oriole]

BB is fine

[ashen perch]

Not an if but a when

[iron oriole]

Who hasn't kept slaves/hostages in OP

[ashen perch]

Uh well

[trim lily]

so true

[wet condor]

I fine Blackbeard very enjoyable to watch when he’s on panel

[ashen perch]

Usually the bad bad guys

[glass plume]

i prefer Crocodile over Blackbeard

[iron oriole]

Even the SHs have kept hostages

[willow pollen]

Strawhats have two slaves

[digital spear]

Croc is also cool

[urban lodge]

Oh yeah Adam showed that the wiki doesn't list the BBPs as slave owners the other day

[iron oriole]

Caesar & Caribou

[lofty fern]

Always did. Luffy will slap him so hard the darkness will form an ink stain on the wall.

[trim lily]

biased wiki

[urban lodge]

I know who is responsible for that but I just can't prove it

[willow pollen]

That’s a really niche thing tf

[trim lily]

paid off by big blackbeard

[glass plume]

i wish that the story was about trying to stop Crocodile from achieving Utopia

[digital spear]

If you look forward to it he doesnt suck

[wet condor]

That’s good art

I’ve said it before that everything about Imu that I find cool comes from fan art lol

[willow pollen]

Luffys gonna pull an eraser vs Imu

[lofty fern]

The few times female Imu doesn't suck

[lofty fern]

I'm waiting for Imu to pull out his own toon powers

[wet condor]

I try to get into manga Imu but something is just not clicking for me lol

[willow pollen]

Exactly what I picture

Oda DO IT I DARE YOU

[glass plume]

it will probably click the instant you see their true face

[lofty fern]

She feels way too nice to have boxed with Rocks

[wet condor]

Are you saying they’re going to be hot?

[glass plume]

no, i am saying that it's easier to be interested in a character whom you know what they look like

[willow pollen]

wtf is this 😭

[wet condor]

I don’t feel about hot Imu

[trim lily]

damn it i was trying to find this exact image so i could post it

[glass plume]

but hey, Imu will probably look like Shamrock and Shanks but x10

[willow pollen]

Imu first day of school

[warm cradle]

The people who believe imu is a child

[digital spear]

This is weird

[stone terrace]

imu being 16

[willow pollen]

I mean

[glass plume]

Imu being a child would be horseshit

[warm cradle]

I think it started because imu refers to himself in third person?

[lofty fern]

Imagine Oda having WB, BM, Kaido, Garp, Roger, and Rocks beating up on a girl this frail

[wet condor]

lol I’m memeing a bit. But yeah it’ll probably be easier to feel invested in them when I see their face

[digital spear]

Thats conceptually cool cuz Nero was 16 and the number obviously

[willow pollen]

This is my favorite

[ashen perch]

If Imu looks Human then him being 16 is pretty likely

[willow pollen]

It’ll be hilarious

[wet condor]

Yeah that’s why I don’t think it’s going to happen

[glass plume]

just make them the dark Luffy, literally

[warm cradle]

Maybe that's why imu posseses others and doesn't actually fight

[willow pollen]

But I think in god valley imus in his original shadow form

[glass plume]

Luffy's proportions and features, but evil

[digital spear]

You make me like it now because it would be funny

[ashen perch]

Yea, Nero became emperor at the age of 16 and his entire number is 16 lol

[digital spear]

Yes

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/mourinho-gif-20750597

garling fans next chapter when he sneaks rocks

[wet condor]

Imu is not going to be a woman, at least not an attractive one , because that’s require Luffy giving good looking woman a beating

[lofty fern]

It's one thing to have Luffy punch Vivi. it's another to have everyone pummel her

[urban lodge]

Imu will be a fromsoft-like twink

[willow pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-luffy-alabasta-vivi-punch-gif-11907289

[trim lily]

non binary imu will be real

[warm cradle]

And why would he not beat a woman?

[wet condor]

Yeah one lil punch is nothing

[wraith mantle]

final villain being a twink

is peak woke

[willow pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/luffy-one-piece-vivi-gif-24468457

[glass plume]

Imu will be eldritch

unconcievable

[ashen perch]

Imu's not even going to look human is where I'm at

[lofty fern]

Oda wouldn't allow it

[trim lily]

anyone here a believer in broom imu

[glass plume]

no

[warm cradle]

Coward

[willow pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-vivi-nefeltari-vivi-nefertari-vivi-luffy-punch-vivi-gif-11996072029067411349

[wet condor]

Because oda isnt letting it happen lol

[wraith mantle]

watch imu being a lesbian woman who had a crush on lily

[wet condor]

It doesn’t have anything to do with Luffys characterization

[stone terrace]

foreskinning

[warm cradle]

If oda is a goat he should allow gender equality

[willow pollen]

Why are there so many gif of luffy punching vivi I swear it just happened once

There’s like 5 different angles

[warm cradle]

Toei giving many angles

[ashen perch]

Luffy is going to try to beat up Gunko though

Imuko I mean

[trim lily]

people aren’t ready

[urban lodge]

I'm gonna have to start hating on Luffy

[warm cradle]

[wraith mantle]

i wonder how brook will react

[wet condor]

He is but he isn’t giving Gunko the Crocodile treatment

[trim lily]

if oda is a good writer it’ll be brook who beats gunkmu

[ashen perch]

He won't be able to

[wet condor]

G5 helps alleviate that by making it into a meme

[ashen perch]

But he will try

[lofty fern]

Now, do you see Oda having them doing this to Vivi

[glass plume]

with music

[wet condor]

Luffy will be able to beat up Gunko in a comedic way

[warm cradle]

"Chalk hakua" 😭

[wet condor]

That isn’t overtly violent

[warm cradle]

Shit is so ass sounding

[pine ridge]

"yo imu sama you're here too?"

[trim lily]

chalk tuah

[ashen perch]

Imuko is going to no diff Luffy so maybe none of Luffy's attacks hit too lol

[wet condor]

Terrible

[wraith mantle]

HOLY COOK

[warm cradle]

Crazy cuz that's not even translated 😭

The jp version just said hakua

No chalk nothing

[glass plume]

chalk hakua isn't even that bad

it's just because that meme that people are making it worse

[trim lily]

it’s pretty bad

[warm cradle]

One of its meanings is shattering void btw

[lofty fern]

They redid that arc I don't know how many times

[warm cradle]

Which tcb did

[glass plume]

it means "White Wall"

[wraith mantle]

so GV ends next chapter?

[ashen perch]

Stephen likes doing that with names to keep both the original attack name and its meaning

[lofty fern]

I think TCB was missing a character so they didn't catch the chalk/white part

[willow pollen]

Yes please

[ashen perch]

Ikkoku Supremacy for example

[formal wagon]

the digimion?

[warm cradle]

Sovereignty*

[ashen perch]

Or sovereignty, whatever yeah

[willow pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-9-mr-9-one-piece-vivi-nefertari-vivi-vivi-one-piece-gif-10931150047029531007

[glass plume]

Stephen?

[formal wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/digimon-adventure-digimon-anime-gif-10285503514858775406

[trim lily]

awesome gif

[hazy turret]

Ohhh fake BM fan

[warm cradle]

The translator

[glass plume]

huh

[ashen perch]

Stephen is the Viz translator

[glass plume]

i had no clue

[wraith mantle]

Lurkaya

[warm cradle]

It's written in chapters

[ashen perch]

Its translated as supremacy too smh

[warm cradle]

Usually at start

[hazy turret]

Just got here

[hazy turret]

[formal wagon]

i hate when yall start talking about stephen and greg and albert bro 😭 how am i supposed to remember these guys

[willow pollen]

Nice bao huang pfp

[hazy turret]

Hey thanks !

[ashen perch]

But yea, he likes doing that with attack names

[willow pollen]

I’m so sad we didn’t see her in the cover story

She deserves better

[formal wagon]

is that really bao huang?

[glass plume]

who is Bao Huang?

[lofty fern]

Always watching

[ashen perch]

Chalk Hakua is hardly the most ridiculous one, I think the funniest was Ragnaraku

[formal wagon]

the one that carried kaido

[willow pollen]

Yes from the real life band gorillaz

[ashen perch]

Where he had Kaido say the full meaning of it iirc

[glass plume]

huh

[urban lodge]

Chalk Hakua is good because it sounds like you know what

[formal wagon]

she spread his rumors

[glass plume]

oh

[formal wagon]

she was his intelligence officer

she had the marys

the cyborg animals with spy cameras

[formal wagon]

she was a flying squrrel gifter with an eyeball mask

[willow pollen]

Rumor girl

[pulsar path]

Crazy people aren't debating bonney on the crew or not right now

[willow pollen]

She’s not

[glass plume]

they've played too much Majora's Mask

[pulsar path]

Sbs kinda hints at different

[strong wadi]

what's it say cause she aint

[warm cradle]

Don't think to be the case

[formal wagon]

bao huang was such a bizzarely memorable part of wano for me

[willow pollen]

Just that she’s comfortable being in child form with the strawhats

[formal wagon]

it felt like she had a lot of screen time

[willow pollen]

Cause she’s cute

[strong wadi]

oh, that's whatever

[willow pollen]

Good design

[formal wagon]

yeah she's got a great design

[willow pollen]

Haktua ?

[pulsar path]

Keep an eye on her from here on out

[strong wadi]

feeso explained it earlier, lemme find the message

[willow pollen]

Tf? Why’s he saying this like we are baby sitting her

[warm cradle]

😭

[warm cradle]

Are we not?

[willow pollen]

Me? Hell no

[ashen perch]

Bonney is going to join up with the Revos but the arc has 70 chapters left so he has to pretend like she's a SH till then

[pulsar path]

I really thought they were making a meme reference with whitbeared move

[glass plume]

i don't want her to join them, she deserves peace

[willow pollen]

70!?

[ashen perch]

70

[pulsar path]

I just don't get why bonney would move away from Nika