also-manga

[tulip olive]

They got my boy fraudji on a leash

[glass plume]

might be even worse

[civic matrix]

Could someone post the fifth page of the scan (third page of the chapter) this is whats showing up for me?

[glass plume]

given Devon's hobby

[runic dock]

He connected horse to war for no reason

Not cooking

[hard fulcrum]

I'm interested to know why she's the 'Crescent Moon Hunter' and why BB needs Saturn's form.

[grand flower]

control the seraphim

[blazing mantle]

Garling is done but Gunko has to die

[glass plume]

she's the crescent moon hunter because she hunts pretty ladies in the night sky

[runic dock]

She leaves a Ceserian section scar on all her victims

[frozen aspen]

cooking his brain

[runic dock]

Like a crescent moon

[grand flower]

you mean a pregnancy scar

[glass plume]

or she's just very into Garling

[narrow stratus]

Why do you hate gunko so much?

[glass plume]

maybe that's her end goal

[runic dock]

That’s what I said yes

[prisma yacht]

That's for everyone....it's some site issue ig

[grand flower]

dont forge it

[runic dock]

lmao

[glass plume]

imagine if Devon's reason for joining Blackbeard is just because she has such a crush on Garling

[hard fulcrum]

I suspect there's more to it than that, especially given BB's only encountered the Seraphim once beforehand and expressed great surprise at their existence.

[tranquil blade]

Why didnt Big Mom have men simping for her like Shakky and even Gloriosa had

[dense rapids]

Rosward eating ice scream and getting saved by his sister from the “Sorbert” kingdom has me sold

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-17729711691959966457

[grand flower]

I know, I think York and him concocted a plan to infiltrate the government and steal the seraphim

[leaden rivet]

Plot

[runic dock]

I just don’t want it to be that family tbh lol

[grand flower]

Devon takes on the form of an Elder because they're operating under the pretense that the Elders are highest in the Pacifista hierarchy, but I think it's secretly Dragon

[hard fulcrum]

York has no reason to do that.

[glass plume]

Linlin probably had men simping for her, they're just too afraid to do it out loud

[dense rapids]

Gonna be Figarland then

[hazy turret]

Oh that’s weird

It’s the same for me

[olive sun]

Big Mom has a much longer history of being a criminal, is absolutely gigantic which is a turnoff for normal people in their world, and still had 80+ children so clearly she had her simps

[runic dock]

This is where it gets complicated cause they’re all trash

[trim lily]

well i mean she did kind of kidnap most of her husbands didn’t she

[olive sun]

Shakky and Gloriosa act like an idol group

[hard fulcrum]

Given all her kids, probably because she had sex with them and then had them shuffled off the mortal coil, buried, or pushed away immediately after.

[civic matrix]

Oh dang 🫤

[ornate tartan]

what about buckingham stussy

[trim lily]

yeah she probably had people going after her

[leaden rivet]

Being giant definitely isn’t a reason considering that Shirahoshi is considered Hancock’s equal in beauty in the story

[grand flower]

When York tells the Seraphim she has a back up plan, we transition to the blackbeard pirates arriving to Egghead.

York and Blackbeard are both defined by their greed. York told the Seraphim she already suspected that the Government would double cross her, so I suspect that she and Teach colluded after Teach encountered the Seraphim and investigated them

[hard fulcrum]

Idols aren't supposed to express romantic interest in people. Both break that rule, lol.

[hazy turret]

Because they are intimidated

[ornate tartan]

she said she was popular herself

but she just wanted WB

[trim lily]

she has no taste unfortunately

[ornate tartan]

😂

[glass plume]

i mean, all of these girls that we mention probably had their fair share of simps

[trim lily]

actually never mind young whitebeard was pretty good looking

[graceful grove]

like they "kidnap" the groom for bachelor party

[glass plume]

Oda just chose not to go in detail about it

as he did with Shakky

[hard fulcrum]

The simping saga was kinda painful ngl.

[leaden rivet]

Eh no girls had simps like Shakky

Shakky is like a legend

[hazy turret]

Meh

[olive sun]

I know what Oda was going for with Shakky but I don't think it was all that effective

[glass plume]

Rayleigh really won out in the end

https://tenor.com/view/sabre-ray-one-piece-rayleigh-gif-6479949203459010527

[trim lily]

yeah i really couldn’t buy the scale at which people fell for her

maybe it’s cause i don’t see it myself

[grand flower]

The Shakky thing does make a lot more sense as a reference to idols

[glass plume]

Shakky is the Taylor Swift

[leaden rivet]

Shes just a horribly tooled plot device

[graceful grove]

all that men and she choose the drunk cheater xd

[leaden rivet]

Eris moggs her with a tenth of the screen time

[glass plume]

she seems to like it

[hazy turret]

Oh brother

[ornate tartan]

gloriosa still had a huge stack of love letters
just not as much as Shakky

[leaden rivet]

What

Say it

[trim lily]

poor gloriosa

[hard fulcrum]

Helen of Troy, right?

It would have been slightly more effective had there been less simping overall but we get Glory, Stussy, and we've already had Hancock. Tritoma might go that way too, so it's just... a little too much of the same thing.

[trim lily]

she deserved better in life

[leaden rivet]

Don’t tell me you like Shakky

I expected more from you

[hazy turret]

They both stink

[glass plume]

Gloriosa should've just gone for someone who wasn't Roger, lol

[graceful grove]

[glass plume]

she probably would've gotten anyone other than Roger

[hazy turret]

Shakky is better looking though

[trim lily]

no clue what she saw in roger

[leaden rivet]

Eris yeah she probably does stink judging by her hair she probably hasn’t had a shower In a while

[trim lily]

he’s not even that good looking either

[hazy turret]

Oh wait

You said eris

I misread

Continue

[urban lodge]

Battle of mid

[leaden rivet]

Did you think I said Estrid?

[trim lily]

did you confuse her with loki’s mom

i did too at first

[hazy turret]

Yeah

[ornate tartan]

i remember she was described as “messy” I was confused😂

[leaden rivet]

Estrid is like

[hazy turret]

Don’t

[glass plume]

is this still Eris?

[leaden rivet]

Behind Robin Eris Big mom and Hancock

[olive sun]

Yeah it's just that the cartoonish handling of the whole situation and Oda's real hands off approach to romance made it entirely unbelievable and mostly made all the characters involved look stupid

[hazy turret]

Eris?

[fallen meteor]

who tf knows
thats when he was thinking about the story

so

[glass plume]

wouldn't surprise me if this is Eris just aged up

[blazing mantle]

Sure

[glass plume]

old granny Eris

[leaden rivet]

By virtue of being a Robin clone. If she took a shower you’d see

Idk I just kinda like Eris I guess

[fallen meteor]

Eris looked like that just because she was like
a prisoner

[leaden rivet]

Good one piece women are rare

[glass plume]

i want to see more from Tritoma

[graceful grove]

oh god. every old female now going to be an Eris isn't it Oda must be doing this shit on purpose

[fallen meteor]

she probably cute overall

[trim lily]

i guess this means the blackbeard sisters are possible again

[blazing mantle]

Keep dreaming

[trim lily]

if eris doesn’t die and remarries

[glass plume]

no? this is just because it's Blackbeard's mother concept

[fallen meteor]

Tritomabros we will see more

believe

[glass plume]

she has to be Luffy's mother

[hazy turret]

Where’s Nami

[fallen meteor]

ok buddy has to is too much

she could be

[ornate tartan]

who da hell is Dragon mother, Garp had a child very young for One Piece standards

[trim lily]

when will people accept luffy has no mother

[ornate tartan]

he was 23

[trim lily]

the monkey line reproduces asexually

[fallen meteor]

kuma slapped luffy out of dragon

new theory

[graceful grove]

thats not the only one she is being compared to

[trim lily]

yep

[glass plume]

?

[leaden rivet]

Namid

[fallen meteor]

aw man now i'm like
"can this work...?"

[hard fulcrum]

I don't mind characters looking goofy or stupid. No one looks cool all of the time. You're right about the approach though.

I'm really hoping we don't get that generic shonen epilogue with couples and mini-me kids. Partly because it would clash with OP's themes but also because Oda just doesn't seem to want to commit/actually develop that sort of stuff. Which, eh, fair to him.

[hazy turret]

That tells me everything I need to know about you

[grand flower]

Luffy and Teach have both been saved by Kuma's Paw Paw power

[fallen meteor]

like kuma uses the paw to slap dragon's...actions? and ivankov modifies it to be a kid or something like that

[trim lily]

you’ve been putting out some banger theories marin

[fallen meteor]

but kuma didnt know luffy

nevermind

dead theory

[trim lily]

semantics

[graceful grove]

Kuma negotiating a peace treaty between them to fight Imu

[austere flint]

Bonney new strawhat

[trim lily]

life finds a way or something

[fallen meteor]

i'm trying to always think of out of the box stuff

[dense rapids]

He saved the two people who will save the world

[fallen meteor]

one of these has to be right eventually

[glass plume]

so Luffy and Blackbeard teaming up is inevitable

[hard fulcrum]

Maybe that memory went early under all the Vegapunk experiments?

[fallen meteor]

being right about stuff like 'yeah so davy was strong' is lame

[trim lily]

luffy shakes blackbeard’s hand and forgives him for being the cause of ace’s death

[fallen meteor]

i want to be right about obscure stuff

[trim lily]

that’s the spirit

[urban lodge]

The Eris grafting theory needs to come true

[fallen meteor]

hey dont repeat it too much illya will block me

[glass plume]

?

this isn't Elden Ring

[fallen meteor]

have you seen blackbeards back

[urban lodge]

It is now

[glass plume]

no and i don't want to

[fallen meteor]

exactly

he hides eris there

[graceful grove]

search topless Black Beard

[glass plume]

yuck

[fallen meteor]

just a bunch of hot dudes

[graceful grove]

its cannon

[fallen meteor]

when i was cooking the theory yesterday arsal even went looking to try to free my mind from it but it doesnt exist

[trim lily]

i don’t want to think about this too much but how does it work timeline wise

[fallen meteor]

a panel of him without some sort of covering

[woeful moth]

Is it true that Rocks is a backstab merchant?

[fallen meteor]

oh she went there after he grew a bit

[trim lily]

we be saying words

[fallen meteor]

it's a planned thing between then, he didnt absorb her

[trim lily]

alright that’s what i thought

[glass plume]

that is the case for a lot of characters

we rarely see their back

[fallen meteor]

like they both work together for this

[graceful grove]

https://tenor.com/view/close-door-the-office-michael-scott-gif-11759789

[fallen meteor]

she ate the gura

since she's on his body he can use both but doesnt die

it's low key logical i'm so afraid of it

[woeful moth]

Im asking saw something about sbs

[blazing mantle]

Lowkey this is a good question

[woeful moth]

[blazing mantle]

Wasn’t Blackbeard shirtless once

[glass plume]

you have officialy lost it

[trim lily]

it’s not logical but i’ll support you regardless

[blazing mantle]

Or am I just imagining things

[glass plume]

https://tenor.com/view/ambulance-gif-20093843

[fallen meteor]

you can look at the sbs on pins

[trim lily]

only the front

[blazing mantle]

🤔

What’s oda hiding

Maybe it’s a super cool detail like whitebeard

[fallen meteor]

bro i thought so too but he always has an open shirt or one of those commodore things

[glass plume]

he was shirtless after Magellan nearly killed him

[blazing mantle]

Do we see his back

[grand flower]

no

[fallen meteor]

arsal looked at that too

cant see his back

[glass plume]

we didn't see Magellans back either

[trim lily]

what is magellan hiding…

[graceful grove]

he really need to get a hobby

[blazing mantle]

Poop

[trim lily]

oh true

[fallen meteor]

he was trying to free me

[trim lily]

he probably wears a diaper

[blazing mantle]

He doesn’t

[trim lily]

proof

[blazing mantle]

If he wore a diaper he would have killed luffy trust

[graceful grove]

u have same fate as loki

[blazing mantle]

Doesn’t he spend like 20 hours in the bathroom or something

[fallen meteor]

chained to a big tree...

[blazing mantle]

That’s lowkey crazy

Imagine spending 20 hours a day sitting down

[grand flower]

loki must have to pee and doo doo so bad rn

[trim lily]

yeah but he needs a backup in case he has to go on the job

[blazing mantle]

Then being strong enough to beat luffy anyways

https://tenor.com/view/luffy-akainu-sakazuki-kizaru-borsalino-gif-18059585499962828524

[fallen meteor]

cant he shape his poison

[blazing mantle]

This gif is crazy

He is NOT clutching this

[fallen meteor]

i think he can make a poison...collector of some sorts

[glass plume]

https://tenor.com/view/hannyabal-hannyabal-one-piece-one-piece-impel-down-vice-warden-gif-6054790001696990229

[dense rapids]

A lot of more characters are definitely related to each other

We probably won’t find out until after the series is over 🤣

[blazing mantle]

Poor fella

[glass plume]

deserved

[trim lily]

more relationships that go nowhere

[blazing mantle]

Trye

[tranquil blade]

Why is his coat brown

[glass plume]

https://tenor.com/view/hannyabal-hannyabal-one-piece-one-piece-magellan-magellan-one-piece-gif-10124361125782707939

[graceful grove]

they dug a 100 feet hole below his ass. Oda will reveal it in next sbs

[glass plume]

since it's cold, i think

[still mason]

It started out white

[urban lodge]

There's a joke to be made here

[blazing mantle]

100 feet is way too shallow

[fallen meteor]

real fecal funny hours rn on #also-manga

[blazing mantle]

Poop scaling

[grand flower]

so loki is wearing assless chaps rn

[tranquil blade]

Lowest common denominator jokes

[graceful grove]

he is

[trim lily]

also manga finally enters its fecal funny phase

[olive sun]

Imagine being the giant who's job it is to clean up after loki

[glass plume]

take this you poop enjoyers

[blazing mantle]

These are the type of questions Oda should have answered

[jade rain]

I don't want oda to become like j k Rowling

[trim lily]

well loki did have those human henchmen…

[blazing mantle]

That’s better

[dense rapids]

3 survivors of god valley and 2 rogue celestial dragons

Imu is not smart

[fallen meteor]

look if a human is working on that job they are the loyalest

[graceful grove]

instead we got a lil 6yo brat talking about the worst DF idea

[woeful moth]

Luffy ahh question

[tranquil blade]

Moria sneak

[trim lily]

so mean

[blazing mantle]

I doubt that dude was 6

[grand flower]

you know ball

[urban lodge]

Surprisingly low number of perverted questions

[grand flower]

YOU KNOW BALL

[hard fulcrum]

Imu prefers to control rather than erase when possible.

[dense rapids]

Oda saving it for when he goes to cross guild

[tranquil blade]

When was that

[woeful moth]

Imu is actually pretty lazy and never proactive

[dense rapids]

During the hunt a few chapters ago

[blazing mantle]

Before the games started

[glass plume]

i would also be lazy if i ruled for 800 years

[tranquil blade]

That actually could be him it's not impossible

[glass plume]

and had magical satan powers

[tranquil blade]

but he's a Kozuki how did he get out of Wano?

[fallen meteor]

i was going to just post the image but why is that on the fairy tail one piece wiki

[dense rapids]

He is from god valley

[urban lodge]

God valley is gonna end and Oda won't even explain how Rocks' family was reversid

[dense rapids]

and went to wano after

[hard fulcrum]

He was born outside of Wano, likely to a branch family.

[dense rapids]

Or he’s just adopted

Either works

[glass plume]

kinda insane that the Gecko Moria thing was the most impactful thing to come out of that coverstory

[hard fulcrum]

Indeed. Heck, he could have married in for all we know. But he was part of the clan when he fought Kaido. I imagine we'll learn more after she drags him to Cross Guild.

[blazing mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/figarland-shamrock-shamrock-shanks-brother-one-piece-op-gif-2039605204947763587

[glass plume]

like seriously, how many chapters was the coverstory?

[tranquil blade]

because nothing else really happened

[fallen meteor]

40something?

[glass plume]

i expected a climax at least

talk about anti-climatic

[fallen meteor]

Merry kept an excel...

[dense rapids]

If Gaban is really the man marked by flames there’s no telling what the next arc will be

[blazing mantle]

A very long excuse for Oda to redeem ulti

[tranquil blade]

The climax was Yamato beating up Who's Who

and recruiting Ulti and Page One

[glass plume]

i'm so tired of Wano

[hard fulcrum]

Yeah. Yamato now has the start of their own little crew since Ulti and Page One have now imprinted like ducklings.

[tranquil blade]

and who cares about that tbh

No one cares about Yamato anymore

[blazing mantle]

I do

Kinda

Just wait a little

[fallen meteor]

i do kinda too

its a cool character

[urban lodge]

I actually care more about Yamato now probably

[tranquil blade]

Wano made me jaded to Yamato

[glass plume]

i just think that Wano is kinda dried out in general, we've been there so much

i'll never understand why we have a coverstory about Wano, right after Wano

[fallen meteor]

going back to wano : eww noo
people from wano going out to the world : interesting, oda please

[bright torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-stfu-shut-your-mouth-slap-slapping-gif-8050553153066707611

[hard fulcrum]

I love Yamato's design but they felt super underdeveloped in Wano and this cover story didn't help that. When introduced, they have no meaningful relationships with anyone in Wano that, by rights, they should have (Kaido's crew). No one ever really challenges the Oden stuff either, and you'd think someone might given the Red Scabbards and all. Heck, Oden's death wasn't all that long ago for Momo...

[woeful moth]

Yamato and the 2 siblings are basically adopted siblings anyway

[fallen meteor]

idk if yamato joins but yamato for sure is going out to sea

[tranquil blade]

Idk Yamato was a little underwhelming for me, image is unrelated

[bright torrent]

yaamato will come in during final war

[blazing mantle]

Kaidos 3 children

[hard fulcrum]

For sure, but so is Pluton. We'll get more from Wano whether we want it or not.

[blazing mantle]

Earlier

[urban lodge]

Cope

[blazing mantle]

Don’t switch up

[fallen meteor]

yamato saves gunko

[olive sun]

Yamato cover story had enough content for 20 pages but went for fuckin like 40

[blazing mantle]

Beats up

Not saves

[fallen meteor]

ok i'm just typing shit at this point

[ionic palm]

bruv's just yappin'

[glossy tangle]

Locked TF in ready to put a man to rest

[fallen meteor]

i do that a lot

[urban lodge]

Yamato would be right alongside Jimbei tied up and helpless btw

[astral mirage]

Nah

[fallen meteor]

very funny face

[glossy tangle]

Garp looking serious for the first time ever

[blazing mantle]

Garp is always serious trust

[grand flower]

Fun fact i look like this 905 of the time

it's my resting bitch face

[ashen perch]

Idk who made this but my god I have never seen anyone butcher Wallahi this hard

[fallen meteor]

walliah

[fallen meteor]

like garp or just the expression

[urban lodge]

They will never replicate the greatness of the Killer Wallahi we're finished meme

[ashen perch]

Yeah its like not even close, genuinely how

[woeful moth]

Full fight chapter next week please

[fallen meteor]

what does Wallahi mean actually

[glass plume]

imagine if Oda just skips the main fight and we catch up with Loki after God Valley, next chapter

[tranquil blade]

Looks like a Gege illustration

[ashen perch]

I swear to God

[fallen meteor]

i see

[woeful moth]

Yeah its i swear to god

[blazing mantle]

Do you guys remember kid fans hyping up their goat before the big chapter

[tranquil blade]

I was joking but in all seriousness it kinda does

[ashen perch]

Gege took over...

[ashen perch]

Haven't you heard

[glass plume]

famous last words

only if i lose

[tranquil blade]

The art and writing will get worse now

[blazing mantle]

Only if I lose

[tranquil blade]

There should be a manga made by a famous mangaka but all of the assistants are also famous mangaka, I wonder how it would turn out

[ashen perch]

Oda was so funny for that, like he knew what he was about to do and still had him be so confident

[urban lodge]

This is just legendary stuff, up there with the Akainu I'm finished one

[woeful moth]

Shanks really put him in his place after Shanks stopped Greenbull from destroying the "future"

[grand flower]

the expression. My hair looks like garp's tho

[clever idol]

I would laugh tbh

[grand flower]

i'm still doing it

kid kills killingham

[tranquil blade]

It's such a shitty edit too

[grand flower]

we're working on the abbreviation

[tranquil blade]

but it's so funny

[urban lodge]

That's part of the charm

[glass plume]

y'all think that Shamrock has a fruit of his own, or just the sword

[blazing mantle]

Let it go

He’s done

[tranquil blade]

No

[ashen perch]

Qilingham is the right spelling anyways

[grand flower]

just the sword imo

[ashen perch]

KKQ

[grand flower]

KKQ

[clever idol]

Naw own it

KKK

KKK SZN BABY

[glass plume]

i feel like Shamrock has his own fruit as well, given he said "This isn't worth getting my hands dirty over." that's when he summoned Cerberus

[tranquil blade]

Kaido kills Qillingham?

[ashen perch]

Relaaax

[grand flower]

oh naw lmao

[tranquil blade]

Woah brother

Woah woah woah

Let's reel it back a little bit

[clever idol]

[urban lodge]

Koby Kills Kuzan

[blazing mantle]

Replace big mom with killingham

[ashen perch]

KKQ y'know, it works

[blazing mantle]

The dream demons are defeated by elbafs worst nightmare

[woeful moth]

Dude got too excited over the 3 letters

[tranquil blade]

What does that mean

Who is the K in question

[blazing mantle]

Wait

I DID IT WRONG

[ashen perch]

Kid killing Qilingham

[blazing mantle]

BIG MOM KILLS KILLINGHAM

Much better

[tranquil blade]

Kidd isn't doing shit I hate to say it

[ashen perch]

Although personally I'm a believer in Jinbe doing it

[grand flower]

Jamesbei can't kill, he's a SH now

[glass plume]

what about STU

[ashen perch]

You guys aren't ready for Post Timeskip Kid

[tranquil blade]

His best bet is Buggy needing a jiki user to find Captain John's treasure and him joining Cross Guild off of that

He's kinda fucked any other way

[austere flint]

Another 2-year timeskip for kid and law?

[ashen perch]

He went through his Sabaody, he got his return to Sabaody clone running around, all thats left is the real deal to show up

[blazing mantle]

Let it go Arsal

You’re embarrassing yourself

[glass plume]

you aren't ready for the Tontatta revolution

[tranquil blade]

This is literally all he has left

[clever idol]

I promise black maria is dead and so is whos who

[woeful moth]

I know now why Imu is so obsessed with Lili... at 60 looking like an immortal but actually aged

[clever idol]

And idgaf about rhe cover story

[woeful moth]

[clever idol]

That wasnt whos who that was who else

[blazing mantle]

500 more years of Yamato

[fleet spoke]

The luffy parallel

Oh my god

[clever idol]

What a loser

[ashen perch]

The 3 days he spent in the Heaven Realm of Spirit and Time were equal to 2 years

[forest jacinth]

[woeful moth]

500 more years of sideboob

[grand flower]

damn so shanks did hit his head. rare oda fumble

[woeful moth]

[narrow stratus]

Looks like big mom genuinely thinks rocks betrayed them, kinda sad to see

[clever idol]

Shanks being knocked out is what makes this so funny

[grand flower]

Heavenbolic Time Realm

[fleet spoke]

Mom and kaido are kinda idiots

[ashen perch]

I was going with the OG name but yeah

[clever idol]

Makes u think the rox pirates majn group likely wouldve stayed together for a while

[glass plume]

damn it, she didn't even tell anyone his secrets

[woeful moth]

They just don't believe someone as strong as Rocks can be controlled

[fallen meteor]

guys big problem
i have food ready but cant find a good video to watch

[woeful moth]

So yeahh

[narrow stratus]

Kaido was young and dumb
But big mom should know better 💔

[ashen perch]

Damn I just noticed that she swung with ACoC there

[glass plume]

they wouldn't, even if this didn't happen, they said that God Valley was their last mission together

[mighty shell]

this being the first message i see when i open chat

[tranquil blade]

They see him at double his normal height, have glowing eyes, sharp teeth and fucking wings and they think he just betrayed them

[ashen perch]

That's two times more she has used ACoC than she did onscreen against Kid and Law 🙂‍↕️

[grand flower]

i wanna put my hands on you

[ashen perch]

What if he could just do that

[fallen meteor]

this will be it

[woeful moth]

Dude got too excited with his white robes

[narrow stratus]

Will never forgive Oda

[clever idol]

When was this said I dont believe ur lyin ass

[narrow stratus]

Waitt what secrets

[clever idol]

It is the world of op

[tranquil blade]

Oh yeah so he uses this ability for the FIRST time in the YEARS they've been with him even though they've never seen the guy eat a fruit

[grand flower]

this is to them like a sh seeing zoro use ashura for the first time

[tranquil blade]

Arsal can we be honest

[grand flower]

"dude what the FUCK just happened to Zoro"

[clever idol]

Or whatever tf gesr 5 is

[ashen perch]

Maybe BM and Kaido thought that Rocks just had secret devil transformation abilities, it would hardly be strange in the world of OP

[tranquil blade]

Oh and he's talking about extinguishinga bloodline too, very out of character for him

[grand flower]

sanji's leg catches on fire and chopper immediately panics

[ashen perch]

Maybe they thought he awakened it for the first time here

Like Gear 5

[woeful moth]

Or wtf ever any of chopper's point

[tranquil blade]

So what I'm getting from this is Whitebeard is the only smart one

[woeful moth]

[urban lodge]

Right after the immortal blob stabs him

They're not very bright

[clever idol]

Monster Chopper just happens and while the crew is concerned they just assume its a new ability

[hasty sable]

Kaido’s never been the sharpest tool in the shed

[ashen perch]

I mean WB also thought it was the regular Rocks lol

[tranquil blade]

Whitebeard is smart, Shiki is smart, Wang Zhi is smart, the rest are morons

[grand flower]

exactly

[clever idol]

They wete busy arguing when that happened btw

[hasty sable]

I think they know it’s Imu though

[grand flower]

Facts

[clever idol]

They dont because i said they dont

[tranquil blade]

No Whitebeard knows it's not normal, I can just tell by his expression

[hasty sable]

Kaido and Big Mom have never said that Rocks betrayed them or anything

[glass plume]

okay, your loss

[tranquil blade]

He definitely knows this isnt just him

[hasty sable]

Also doesn’t make sense in context either

[glass plume]

a girls institution

[woeful moth]

No whitebeard just saw him attack 2 of his crewmate first

Ffs

[ashen perch]

Ehh no lol

[clever idol]

They dont say a lot soo

[tranquil blade]

No Whitebeard knows, Big Mom is just not as smart as you think

[narrow stratus]

Monster chopper attacked the strawhats in enies lobby
Imagine if Zoro was like “I can’t believe you would betrays us chopper!!”

And asura’d him lol

[warm fossil]

don't they have like one line combined about rocks ever

[hasty sable]

They were just fighting the devil together, Rocks is impaled by said entity, then he becomes a demon and attacks them. They know he’s being controlled.

[clever idol]

I like the idea that the rox pirates had a few more years in them

[ashen perch]

WB can be an idiot too its fine Avery

[tranquil blade]

He cant be though

[iron oriole]

They were gonna split after GV

[clever idol]

I dont believe u

[tranquil blade]

It's NOT allowed

[ashen perch]

I think the serious explanation is that they do know its Imu but they think Rocks sold out on purpose or something

Thus Kaido's belief that pirates will betray you when they see no chance of winning

[clever idol]

Tbh its rox betraying them sounds plausible than rox being controlled by some random shadow.

[blazing depot]

Kaido and Big Mom are out of the loop for sure

[tranquil blade]

Maybe Kaido was talking about himself

[clever idol]

Kaido just betrayed bm

[glass plume]

so they think that Xebec would hurt his family?

[urban lodge]

Avery tomorrow when october ends you should edit a 67 into Kuina and Zunesha's eyes

[clever idol]

They dont know he has family

[woeful moth]

Oda on the Franky question basically saying "DO I REALLY NEED TO SPOONFEED YOU EVERY INFORMATION?"

[ashen perch]

They don't know anything about xebec even having one lol

[glass plume]

it's pretty obvious at this point

[tranquil blade]

Watch your tongue

[glass plume]

they'd have to be blind not to notice

[ashen perch]

Not really

[clever idol]

Big mom maybe

[glass plume]

Imu noticed like straight away

[clever idol]

Kaido absolutely didnt know

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/tongue-lick-terry-crews-white-chicks-tasty-gif-17752615

[clever idol]

Imu who was told about rhe davy clan??

[tranquil blade]

Why is it so wide

[ashen perch]

Imu has Enel tier range and he knew what he was looking for

[narrow stratus]

Idk in this panel it doesn’t look like she thinks he’s being controlled

[rose rune]

hemotophia

[tranquil blade]

That sounds like a word to me

[glass plume]

they noticed a woman and a child running and put two and two together that it was what grabbed Xebec's attention

[blazing depot]

https://x.com/3skulljoe/status/1984333002907045922?s=46

apparently

Typical Joe (@3SkullJoe)

.Born the same year as Franky
.Had classified knowledge of Punk Hazard lore
.Had history with Ceaser
.Knew Vegapunk well enough to seek his help in curing the Punk Hazard kids.

X · Oct 31, 2025, 6:53 PM

[narrow stratus]

I can’t believe October ends tomorrow

[rose rune]

I made it up

[narrow stratus]

wtf is happening

[clever idol]

This plus xebec outright telling imu that hes a jonesian pirate

[tranquil blade]

I could see that

[iron oriole]

I don't need you to

[glass plume]

so?

[clever idol]

Doctored panels

[glass plume]

you mean that Imu can sense who are Davy and who aren't

[rose rune]

it's already november here

[frozen aspen]

were are stussy and glorosia anyways did ofa forget them

[iron oriole]

Lmao okay, if you're gonna just discuss like that then i'm not gonna waste time on you

[tranquil blade]

I swear the Rocks pirates in the Kuma flashback are completely different from them here in this flashback

[urban lodge]

Oda forgot a lot of people

[frozen aspen]

😔

[narrow stratus]

Well happy Xmas season to you thigh

[woeful moth]

They're all literally leaving GV now

[clever idol]

I mean that its easy for imu to put two and two together when xebec relates himself to davy jones and then shows up on an island where they live and protects two known members of said clan.

The rox pirates domt all have tjis context

U could say big mom knew cuz she hints at it and maybe wb too

[glass plume]

no, but i think it's pretty obvious when Xebec is protecting a child and a woman

[clever idol]

This is something most of them dont ses

[glass plume]

alright, i don't care enough to discuss this lol

[clever idol]

Big mom amd kaido especially

Maybe whitebeard saw

[tranquil blade]

Well Big Mom probably has some intuition about who's a parent after having like 167 kids

[clever idol]

Exactly

[ashen perch]

I think we'll briefly see all of em again but yea the lack of focus on most characters here has been the most disappointing aspect of God Valley, only disappointing factor for me even

[glass plume]

most disappointing thing is the lack of Roger and Xebec interactions prior to this, we don't know why they were seen as rivals even

[tranquil blade]

Silver Axe disappeared

Idk where he went

Him and Barbell

[glass plume]

or is Sengoku just assuming that they were fierce rivals because Roger was one of those who fought Xebec to his last breath?

[urban lodge]

Oda shows a bunch of holy knights for one panel and then never again

[woeful moth]

Tbh she probably just dont think Rocks will sacrifice everything for them like hell she would

[rose rune]

silver fishmaning somewhere

[urban lodge]

Doesn't even name them

[blazing depot]

Barbell’s one character moment is getting a fresh fade for Shakky

https://tenor.com/view/waves-360waves-natural-hair-brush-hair-gif-15688444

[woeful moth]

BM understands having children but she never understood having family

[tranquil blade]

They knew they'd get no diffed so they're just kinda watching this happen

[ashen perch]

Like what did Gloriosa do besides uncharacteristically say that saving Shakky will help her score points with Roger when that's like a sister to her that she cried for? What did the HKs do besides just appear, I guess Garling lost and Maffey took Shamrock but eh. Most Rocks Pirates barely exist. Roger's crew barely did much. And now we're at the climax already.

[tranquil blade]

I mean what are they even supposed to do

Their strongest two members got destroyed

[ashen perch]

Oh and Bogard but I never expected much

[glass plume]

at least Rayleigh got to be the prince charming

[urban lodge]

Is Gunko the only holy knight who isn't a jobber? 💔

[tranquil blade]

Bogard is just like a nonentity

[ashen perch]

So that one's forgiven

[tranquil blade]

Yes

[iron oriole]

Almost like people expected too much from a flashback

[tranquil blade]

She gets stuff done

[urban lodge]

Maybe Killingham too

[glass plume]

don't forget about Shamrock

[ashen perch]

I don't think they're jobbers but its clear that Oda wanted this event to be bigger in scale but wasn't willing to commit to all the characters here

So you're just left to imagine all their roles

Like yea Yeti guy probably clashed with fucking Barbell or something, it happened, I'm imagining it right now

[hard fulcrum]

Killingham telling Sommers to stop mocking Gunko's interests might be the nicest thing a God's Knight has been shown doing. Doesn't set the bar high but... I guess it's something, lol.

[glossy tangle]

Can’t wait to see Roger and garp go absolute full strength against rocks

We need to see the Roger feat to beat the fraud allegations

[steel stirrup]

[glass plume]

oh please

do people even know what a fraud is at this point

it's so overused istg

"hey this guy didn't 1 shot this guy, what a fraud"

[ashen perch]

It is for this reason alone that I want that GV movie to happen, they'll have more of a chance to expand upon Oda's script and they'll be consulting him on it so it'll work out well

[glossy tangle]

I mean Roger is king and we’ve seen him do almost nothing

Or rather was king

We’ve only been told about what happens lol

[glass plume]

that should be enough

[urban lodge]

Yeah, I want to know more about him, he's pretty interesting

[glossy tangle]

We see him launch oden into orbit and fight WB and laugh

[narrow stratus]

I need to find good blue hair gunko art

[rose rune]

join captain for drunk thigh

[steel stirrup]

You Imu now?

[narrow stratus]

ok brooo

[woeful moth]

Well we saw him equally clash with WB and made quick work of Oden which almost killed Kaido

[narrow stratus]

I am nothing like Imu

[glossy tangle]

Are you the resounding voice for all OP fans?

[glass plume]

good luck, they seemingly hate doing official colored art until the anime airs

[steel stirrup]

Gotta ting for the blue hair

[hard fulcrum]

I really want to know why his Awakening is white!

[gloomy tree]

yeah and then he went to Laugh Tale, he became the freest person on the seas which in his definition makes him the Pirate King

[glass plume]

no, i just think it's tragic

[gloomy tree]

imagine calling Wb or Roger frauds, i absolutely agree, this word has lost any meaning

[glass plume]

"hey this guy could be a fraud, even tho we've heard what they've done... but I need visual proof"

[glossy tangle]

I know but I wanna see him put belt to ass he’s strong AF

It’s just a saying lol

[gloomy tree]

real strength means you only use it if you have to

no its dumb, thats what it is

[hard fulcrum]

"The guy that started the Great Pirate Age is totally a fraud." -sigh-

[glass plume]

humanity is evolving backwards

[iron oriole]

I mean... he was gifted the title of Pirate King

[glossy tangle]

Damn the urge to argue and be right has surpassed banter. Cringe.

[glass plume]

i'm not arguing just to argue, lol

[woeful moth]

Every great pirate and marine we know thinks of Roger as THE PIRATE and he is still fraud to people

[glass plume]

i genuinely think this

[gloomy tree]

see there is banter and there is just misuse of words for no purpose

[glass plume]

and it's not just against you, multiple people have the same view

[gloomy tree]

buzzwords

[glossy tangle]

I don’t believe he’s a fraud, it’s just a saying to me. Like until I see something I don’t believe it type beat but you’re taking it so seriously it’s dead and smashed into dust so I’m no longer interested. Just want to see Roger go all out jfc

🫡

[glass plume]

yeah that's fine

[ornate tartan]

lol that term is used for someone like Demaro Black

nowadays even some of the greatest pirates in the manga history can somehow be a fraud

[blazing mantle]

It’s a key character design point

[ornate tartan]

shit crazy😭🤦🏽‍♂️

[rose rune]

fraud

[gloomy tree]

nou

[woeful moth]

Literally its own character hehehehe... Oda has drawn it personified

[steel stirrup]

[gloomy tree]

https://tenor.com/view/boing-fwip-scrubs-gif-11562308

[ornate tartan]

you will probably get ur wish in 6 days

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/memories-magnetic-rose-piano-madhouse-gif-21579183

[woeful moth]

Yeah oda needs to make this like atleast 1 full chapter of fight

Just fighting

2 v 1

[glass plume]

it's probably going to be at least a half chapter

[woeful moth]

Tbh probably yeah

[ornate tartan]

think we see the conclusion next week since there’s a break coming after 1165

[woeful moth]

Nah... Cliffhang god will cliffhang us

[wet condor]

Roger gets Haki bloom in the upcoming chapter

[glass plume]

i hope that Garp and Roger do a team up move

[rose rune]

roger always had haki bloom

[ashen perch]

I'm thinking its gonna be a full fight chapter that ends with a big cliffhanger like Garling sneaking Rocks

[blazing mantle]

Even with the side boob that would still make Yamato the most covered up strawhat

The bar is that low

[ornate tartan]

for the whole crew?

[ashen perch]

But if Oda is feeling like its Onigashima again, then the fight might just continue to the next chapter but thats unlikely

[glossy tangle]

I really hope so! I’d love to see farther than divine departure

[woeful moth]

Sanji is... But yeah its not much... All of them basically fight nude ajhahahaa

[steel stirrup]

Garling huh

[ashen perch]

Garling yeah

[glossy tangle]

Roger apparently also had titanic haki I wanna seeeeeeee

[glass plume]

it's so much to see after God Valley

how many years did Harald rule Elbaph?

39?

[steel stirrup]

Has to get that Champion title somehow i guess

He definitely hasn't done shit to earn it up until now

[ashen perch]

We've got like 25 years after God Valley till Harald's death

[ornate tartan]

but that’s how it’s lookin rn

[woeful moth]

Its inline with how fraudulent the story of God Valley is

[ornate tartan]

Garling has a small chance to be involved in the castle incident

[glass plume]

that's really interesting

[gloomy tree]

i mean maybe he got the title like Smoker got praised for stopping Croc, as we know there was some form of cover up

[ornate tartan]

very small but not impossible

[ashen perch]

Yea, thats why I'm thinking he has to do something even if it seems pathetic

[steel stirrup]

Participation Trophy ahh

[frigid gulch]

I think that would be Garp more so

Garling is champion of the tourney

[woeful moth]

I think the reason Garling is stronger now is because he felt the gap between him and everyone else

[steel stirrup]

Anything to make the HK threats again please

[ornate tartan]

the insane conquerors Haki coming from Aurut castle either belongs to someone from WG- most likely Imu or Harald himself, if Imu turned him into demon

[glass plume]

Garling going to Harald years after, would be fitting given it would be his revenge on Xebec I assume

[ornate tartan]

either harald or loki also killed all 113 giant guards too

[ashen perch]

I feel like him distinguishing himself has to be cause of a real thing, because in my mind its been the thing that made Imu see him as the next Supreme Commander of the HKs and then the next Gorosei

[ornate tartan]

that’s a lot of ppl

[glass plume]

it could just be that he had the most points before it was interupted

[ashen perch]

Unless Imu was just impressed by Garling's slave kill count, I think he gets involved again in this fight

[frigid gulch]

I think Harald rampaged just like Rocks

[glass plume]

like, he was in the lead before Xebec came and he remained the victor after

[steel stirrup]

[frigid gulch]

Killing all of the guards

[ornate tartan]

Castle incident was brutal god damn😭

wonder if Oda will show it in depth

[hard fulcrum]

He seems very good at getting information from the lower world. He rooted out the Davy Clan after all.

[ashen perch]

True yeah, that was impressive enough already

But we'll see, I don't think he's done here yet

[ornate tartan]

I wonder where tf gloriosa is

[glass plume]

wasn't this just a random find

[ornate tartan]

MIA😭

[glass plume]

nothing that he really went out of his way to find

[tranquil blade]

Probably left once she realized Shakky is safe

[ornate tartan]

even stussy had a panel

[grand flower]

Yeah it was blind luck

He says so himself

[glass plume]

yeah

[frigid gulch]

My only problem with “distinguishing” himself is it almost seems like Viz’s language for what Sandman said which is “champion”

So it may give the wrong impression

But of course

[glass plume]

Garling won the human-hunt, easy as that

[frigid gulch]

We’ll see soon enough

[hard fulcrum]

I doubt it was so easy given the Davy Clan are implied to be real secretive about who they really are. Rocks was told to keep his name safe after all.

[distant vine]

Yknow what would be really funny of Oda

[grand flower]

Garling just saw Rocks there I think

[ornate tartan]

dragon had a great character moment this ch

parallel with his son

[distant vine]

End a chapter having BB stand over a defeated person who everyone thinks is Shanks

But we find out its Shamrock next chapter

[grand flower]

We haven't seen enough of Shamrock to justify that tbh

[glossy tangle]

I think shanks will kill shamrock

[distant vine]

Itd be hilarious on an agenda level irl, and an in-story level of like father-like son

[hard fulcrum]

How would he have known Rocks was a Davy though? Rocks hasn't told many people.

[frigid gulch]

So Shamrock decided to take a beating for Shanks?

[urban lodge]

Sham will be a beast too, he has the red hair buff

[frigid gulch]

I’m not sure

[grand flower]

Heard him explaining it to Eris maybe?

I think Garling caught them when Rocks was introducing Eris to his family

[hard fulcrum]

In which case, being able to hide his presence/intent to the point that Rocks D. Xebec didn't pick up on it... that'd take skill.

[frigid gulch]

I mean it’s possible they slipped a lil bit

And Garling saw it

We prob won’t get details

[grand flower]

I think he just caught Rocks at the island with Eris and Teach

Rocks had to introduce Eris to his family

[ornate tartan]

Would’ve been a great question for a SBS, even if Oda tried to avoid answering

instead we learned about how Zunesha shit 💩 is fertilizer for islands

[glass plume]

God Valley has been great for Dragon, every chapter has given him something

[grand flower]

Garling probably caught them then

[frigid gulch]

I would think he’d mention Rocks then but

[grand flower]

huh?

[frigid gulch]

When he reported

To the Elders

[grand flower]

Maybe Rocks wasn't there

But instead Garling caught Eris when she was still new to the Davy family and the island

[glass plume]

i still think that Shanks and Shamrock's mother was the one who told Garling

i think she was a Davy D. herself

[grand flower]

I can see something like the Davy slipping and mentioning it to her then

[frigid gulch]

Well that’s alright

[tranquil blade]

How do we feel about the theory that someone needs to be in their homeland for them to be reversed?

[glass plume]

i don't buy it

[grand flower]

I don't think it's true

[urban lodge]

Feels almost too restrictive tbh

[tranquil blade]

I will say so far it hasn't been contradicted from what I know but it could also be not a thing

[iron oriole]

Decent theory but probably not gonna be a thing

[tranquil blade]

Idk what the reasoning for it is

[frigid gulch]

I feel like it might even be a little cliche for someone to stumble on something that’s supposed to be a secret so maybe he saw or overheard it in that manner

[grand flower]

I think it fits if it's magic. Magical spells tend to need specific conditions

[frigid gulch]

Whichever is alright

[woeful moth]

With how strong it is... It needs to have an equally strong restriction/condition imo

[grand flower]

Even if it's a DF where the theme is something akin to a magic system

[tranquil blade]

Like all the turned giants in Elbaph so far have been Elbaphian, and all the ones turned on God Valley were from God Valley

So it's not dead yet at least

[narrow stratus]

This is not nen 😭

[frigid gulch]

It feels super arbitrary but ye idt anything disproves it yet

[steel stirrup]

That's why I'm a fan of it even if i don't believe it

A power this OP needs some kind of restriction or limitation

[celest mauve]

so is luffy's G5 going to be not only the one thing that's immune to domi reversi, but also potentially be capable of turning demons back to normal?

[glass plume]

probably

[ornate tartan]

possible

[steel stirrup]

Otherwise you would have to ask the question: Why hasn't Imu just used this One tap ability on the entire world

[distant vine]

What if...you just dodge?

[tranquil blade]

It's a power that lets you basically get fighters stronger than almost anyone could reasonably become

[sacred flume]

Maybe bb yami fruit too

[frigid gulch]

The other Davy’s got turned too.. idk if they also got ragebaited or something

[steel stirrup]

Gotta be some restrictions

[frigid gulch]

[ornate tartan]

there’s limits, there has to be

[frigid gulch]

If that is a condition

[narrow stratus]

Wait where did stussy and gloriosa go

[frigid gulch]

Err actually

[tranquil blade]

Like Demon Xebec may be the strongest guy we've ever seen and Imu just had a guy that strong

[frigid gulch]

From what I can tell

[tranquil blade]

Until he dies of course

[celest mauve]

forgotten

[narrow stratus]

They kinda disappeared in god valley

[frigid gulch]

Imu has to start off by turning like two people into demons

And then the rest turn automatically

[ornate tartan]

stussy had 1 or 2 panels of fighting in background

she uses a gun

[frigid gulch]

If they get caught by the ones turned

[narrow stratus]

Just like my shojo king god knight

[ornate tartan]

gloriosa nowhere to be found

[blazing depot]

😭 😭 😭

[steel stirrup]

There should be a limit to avoid the fallacy of "If Imu has this why haven't they used to this?"

[frigid gulch]

No way you take Oda as your canon source

[celest mauve]

it's really showing in this flashback how much oda favors male characters over female lol, only eris has been impressive in any way for some time now

[distant vine]

"MISOGYNY IMPACT"

[frigid gulch]

Rate Big Mom’s performance /10

[blazing depot]

What did my dad mean by this

[frigid gulch]

[somber rivet]

A male shonen mangaka in his 50s doing that?

Wow

[ornate tartan]

Kaido: Pirates will betray you, when they know you will lose they will abandon you and sail away

[distant vine]

He's shocked Elmo would dress like a loser for Halloween

[iron oriole]

Whats the point in doing it & turning everyone into a demon when 99% of the world are idiots & don't even know they're being ruled over etc etc

[ornate tartan]

no one is gonna be left on the island except roger garp rocks and imu

[celest mauve]

big mom using ikoku on imu was cool, but she got snuck by kaido and swatted aside by xebec while WB got to have a cool clash with him lol

[celest mauve]

like 3

[distant vine]

Idk I feel like the WG doesnt have a very high approval rating?

[hard fulcrum]

Big Mom and Kaido have been, collectively, one of my fave parts of the flashback. They're very entertaining together and it's interesting to see this side of them and get an even better idea of how they became the people they became.

[narrow stratus]

She didn’t even mean to attack Imu loool

[distant vine]

Like pirates are dangerous enough that people dont wanna instantly crumble the WG, but its not like you find common people doing WG worship

[narrow stratus]

She wanted to whack kaido with that ikoku

[celest mauve]

shakky literally is just a damsel to be saved in god valley, and stussy and gloriosa may as well not exist ig

[narrow stratus]

Which is sad because stussy’s design is fire

[steel stirrup]

"My world is incomplete"

That reason

Another reason is why come to Elbaf instead of just using this one tap ability on whoever is attacking Mariejois

Apparently it can be done without Imu because Garling had an army before Imu even possessed Saturn

So why not just use this overpowered one tap sure hit ability on the people who are burning down Mariejois?

[distant vine]

Well Stussy and Gloriosa are weaker so I think its ok for them to fall back

[celest mauve]

and gloriosa talking about roger paying more attention to her if she saved shakky, oh my days bro

[frigid gulch]

Misogyny haki

[wide star]

did Oda forget about Gloriosa ?! lmao

[ornate tartan]

gloriosa being gone is actually crazy

[somber rivet]

One Piece, even if its better than others shonens in this regards, is still bad in the woman representation

[steel stirrup]

If Garling or any other HK is able to use DR they could use it on whoever is invading and Imu wouldn't have to get involved

That's "if' Garling can

So again, why go to Elbaf to flip them? Why not flip the people who are attacking?

[ornate tartan]

not a single panel

[wide star]

you would think on a island to save someone she was closest to , she would have some screentime lol

[somber rivet]

Oda is just a old man with probably old views of the subject

[trim lily]

i forgot stussy and gloriosa are also here

[frigid gulch]

Did we even see her gun for Shakky

[trim lily]

poor barbell too

[frigid gulch]

Besides the beginning

[distant vine]

Its not really about forgetting, the Shakky subplot just ended rather quickly and now its about Rocks vs Imu so she's been moved back

[urban lodge]

Dw Oda forgot too

[narrow stratus]

I can’t fully blame Oda for gloriosa absence

This flashback is fully packed

[distant vine]

She probably should have ran into Rayleigh and Shakky by now

[wide star]

lmao nah we havent seen her at all .. last time we saw her was when they all got that double spread when they first arrived lol

[narrow stratus]

Like there’s so much

[distant vine]

Or sometime soon in this flashbak

[hazy turret]

Honestly good

[frigid gulch]

We’ve even seen Barbell I believe

Kinda crazy

[hazy turret]

We don’t need to waste time on them

[wide star]

first Gil Bastar but now Gloriosa is wild lmao considering who they’re rescuing

[distant vine]

Yeah I think Oda's trying to get through everything at a quick pace

[frigid gulch]

You’re just mad she fried your goat

[wide star]

Barbell has been MIA too 😂😂

[trim lily]

biggest tragedy is the complete erasure of claw guy

[wide star]

haven’t seen him at all since they arrived

[trim lily]

how is he going to give his claw to blackbeard now

[hazy turret]

Who did what

[urban lodge]

Barbell was killed offscreen by Sunbell

[hazy turret]

BM is the only woman on that island that matters

[frigid gulch]

Gloriosa to BM

[wide star]

CAP

[tranquil blade]

but I wanna see Barbell :(

[wide star]

Eris > Linlin

[ashen perch]

Bell on bell violence

[steel stirrup]

Oda didnt even let Gil have an onomatopoeia

[frigid gulch]

Oh was that Sunbell?

[tranquil blade]

Stussy and Gloriosa are kinda pathetic I hate to say it

[hazy turret]

Gloriosa is a loser

[frigid gulch]

Coulda sworn I saw a panel

[hazy turret]

So who cares

[trim lily]

we'll never know what was up with his fire hair

[iron oriole]

Imu's world being incomplete could just be referring to flooding it

Logic says it was still Imu that domi'd the rest of the Davey clan but obviously we don't know for sure there

Imu has come to Elbaf to gain the might of the Giants for the final war & has the Gorosei + other HKs at Marijoa to deal with whatever is happening there

[tranquil blade]

Oda edged the readers yet again

[celest mauve]

remember when shiki was supposed to be rocks' top 2 with WB
bro got relegated to clowning around over treasure with john and ganzui, tough

[urban lodge]

Wait so you hate both Shakky and Gloriosa now?

[distant vine]

Its a little unfortunate cause I wanted God Valley to be a slow burn, but Oda has slowed the pace a lot with the Elbaph section of this Rocks flashback so I cant be too mad

[ashen perch]

Truthfully, Oda didn't really want to do anything with all these characters here, he just thought it would be cool

[hazy turret]

Yes

[urban lodge]

Damn

[distant vine]

Probably yeah Arsal

[tranquil blade]

Boa is the only good empress so far

[steel stirrup]

Again

If youre gonna pull up with an army of demons anyway

Why not just turn the people who are attacking?

[trim lily]

god valley without roger garp and rocks would be peak

[somber rivet]

Probably

[ornate tartan]

the guy who made the plot possible after kuma😂

[celest mauve]

kuja women are kinda... 😬

[hazy turret]

True

[urban lodge]

Hancock does clear

[hazy turret]

Maybe tritoma too

[narrow stratus]

Understandably so
We are only still in god valley
There’s harald and Loki flashback he needs to finish

This flashback is almost as long as oden’s already lmao

[tranquil blade]

Tritoma may be good too but we dont know

[hazy turret]

We’ll see

[ornate tartan]

Taro is the guy in Roger Pirates who picked up the chest w Shanks

[trim lily]

tritoma implented a revolutionary financial program

[hazy turret]

Let’s not get our hopes up

[ashen perch]

The burn scar will be the coolest empress yeah

[hazy turret]

…

[frigid gulch]

Rocks is the burn scar..

[trim lily]

oh tritoma is the burn scar now

[hazy turret]

Burn scar is a man

[somber rivet]

Rocks is dead

[tranquil blade]

Tritoma introduced credit cards so she's evil

[ornate tartan]

u saw that theory too😭

[trim lily]

i havent been keeping up

[ashen perch]

Wdym I made that theory

[iron oriole]

Could simply just be a whole Imu not wanting to show themself in Marijoa situation

[ashen perch]

I have been saying it before that Twitter post lol

[tranquil blade]

No shot

[steel stirrup]

Seems as thought Garling can do it too

He had a demon army before Imu possessed Saturn

[ashen perch]

Its true

[hard fulcrum]

The infatuation with Luffy undercuts her character quite a bit. Kuja in general have been kinda one-note though, which is a bit sad.

[ornate tartan]

gunko

[iron oriole]

Also a few losses of fodder trash CDs that Imu has no need of is worth claiming an army of the strongest there is

[steel stirrup]

Or her

[distant vine]

Exactly yeah this all here is lowkey a side piece to Harald's story

[narrow stratus]

Has anyone reread long ring Long Island recently?

Anything cool yall noticed in that arc

[frigid gulch]

It almost seemed like Garling did it

[steel stirrup]

Either way that army was created before Imu got here

[distant vine]

Oda probably really wants to go back to present Elbaph with all the established developed characters he likes more

[tranquil blade]

Well at least I can understand why she does more, Luffy is the only man who she knows doesnt objectify her at all

[somber rivet]

When its ends

[frigid gulch]

Rocks arrived just in time to save Eris and Teach

[tranquil blade]

or the first at least in a long long time, so I can understand Boa's position

[distant vine]

Rather than these Rocks Pirates who he probably likes well enough but theyre no Straw Hats

[frigid gulch]

But then he says the others got caught

And turned

[narrow stratus]

He probably misses drawing luffy

[tranquil blade]

but Boa also does still have a character outside of Luffy too, even now with her infatuation of him

[narrow stratus]

Wdym

[somber rivet]

I really can't stand Foxy

[steel stirrup]

I just double checked and the army was definitely created before Imu possessed Rocks

Which means it can be done without Imu

So it could've been done without Imu revealing themselves @iron oriole

So again

[iron oriole]

I know it was done before then, i commented on that already

[steel stirrup]

Why come all the way to Elbaf

[stone tulip]

Just realized all of the straw hat girls wears glasses lmao

[hard fulcrum]

I can understand it, but it stunts her character. I'd like to see her do more for herself and her people in the Final War. Also, Koby didn't objectify her either and she met him (not in the best way though, lol)

[distant vine]

Robin and Vivi's eyes weaken

[iron oriole]

HKs were taking too long

[distant vine]

Is Nami ok because she doesnt read as much?

[narrow stratus]

Vivi did lasik after 40

[ashen perch]

I mentioned it before too but I can't find it atm

[ornate tartan]

nami does read not as much as robin tho

[stone tulip]

Or just this is reading glasses

[narrow stratus]

Truege

[tranquil blade]

I dont think you even meant this when you said it

[ashen perch]

I meant it

[tranquil blade]

Why would that be his mother

[ashen perch]

I had two very solid reasons

[tranquil blade]

Why would his mom try to kill him

[hard fulcrum]

Nami keeps the logs and draws a lot of detailed maps, so she might read more than Robin. Just not the same kinda stuff.

[steel stirrup]

They summoned Shamrock back before the kidnapping started

He should be able to

And again Garling and all the Gorosei are there

Plenty of other people who are feasibly capable of it

But they haven't done it.

[stone tulip]

This is just paralleling how these two used to be members of baroque works

[final trench]

#boaforCG

[ornate tartan]

that would be impossible

u would have to change her entire character for that to happen

[ashen perch]

1. Burn Scar and Dragon are the only two characters in the series to possess a pitch black ship, I think this meant that the character had to be linked to Dragon so I naturally arrived at the conclusion that it has to be his wife.
2. I believed that the whirlpool from Chapter 2 was significant and a very early hint at Burn Scar, equivalent to Dragon sending off Luffy as he's heading to the Grand Line. The whirlpool was Mom Marked by Flame's idea of a test.

[somber rivet]

Who is Nami grooming in her 40s?

[trim lily]

me testing my stupid son by nearly drowning him for fun

[ashen perch]

These were my reasons back then

[ashen perch]

Have you seen Garp

[trim lily]

garp was also a bad parent

[ashen perch]

Well yes

[tranquil blade]

Well Garp didnt drown his grandkids he just hit them really really hard

[ashen perch]

He threw Luffy into a jungle

[frozen aspen]

you

[trim lily]

luffy literally survived by like pure luck, what was it testing

[tranquil blade]

Ehh thats not that

bad

[ashen perch]

Its worse 😭

[grand flower]

i am so sleepy

[somber rivet]

Amigo, this will very funny when Boa actually joins Cross Guild

[tranquil blade]

His luck stat

[narrow stratus]

What do you guys think of the possibility of Luffy teaming up with Teech?

[tranquil blade]

The ocean is more dangerous than land in one piece

[urban lodge]

Daily reminder that burn scar is Bluejam

[somber rivet]

I prefer Robin or Vivi, tho

[ornate tartan]

😭💀

[tranquil blade]

Like 6-7 times more dangerous

[trim lily]

weird way to spell sunbell

[ornate tartan]

yall be sayin anything

[ashen perch]

The thing that you need to understand about East Blue is that it is as calm as a sea can get

[trim lily]

sunbell is still the only character in one piece that can reasonably match all the requirements of the burn scar man

[tranquil blade]

It still has the lord of the coast

or had

[frozen aspen]

Garp competes in the annual child abuse championship every year but sadly he never makes it past bronze

[tranquil blade]

Like that thing is huge

[ornate tartan]

so arsal if tritoma is burn scar is she gonna just give her son the 4th road poneglyph?

[grand flower]

Oda should introduce a character with the epithet "the Jumbee"

[trim lily]

[ashen perch]

Mom marked by flames was showing Luffy through the whirlpool that this is what he's gonna have to face on a real sea, she was seeing if he could take the heat

[tranquil blade]

He literally survived by luck

[grand flower]

fuck it why not

[tranquil blade]

What skill was that testing

[grand flower]

crucial to luffy's progress tbh

just that scarevery

his luck

like zoro with the sword

[tranquil blade]

His luck stat?

[ashen perch]

His ability to navigate and sail through it

[grand flower]

or mihawk in mf

[ashen perch]

He failed miserably lol

[grand flower]

no fool she was testing his destiny

"if you survive this, then fate has something in store for you...son"

[trim lily]

tritoma doing the enel face as she watches luffy sink into the ocean

[tranquil blade]

So he fucked the test and she didnt do anything about it?

What a shitty mother

[trim lily]

she wouldnt even know he survived

[grand flower]

it's the salem witch trial method

if luffy lives, he's the chosen one

if he dies, time to find new sperm

[trim lily]

tritoma w (?)

[ashen perch]

Well that also works, regardless there are two things that I am certain of

[grand flower]

worked out pretty good huh

[tranquil blade]

Tritoma sounds evil as fuck with the way you're describing her