also-manga

[steel stirrup]

Sengoku lied about 90% of ts but people point to the 10% and say he isn't a liar

Nah that old nigga is a liar

[frozen aspen]

I'm suprised Sengoku included Roger in his retelling of god valley at all. Given that he only had a skewered impression of the event why go ahead and give roger credit in front of other marines?

[frigid gulch]

Well maybe it is questionable that he used conq

[pulsar path]

Damn all four yonko were on this island

[frigid gulch]

[runic dock]

Perhaps it’s something like that that distracts him yeah

[forest jacinth]

[stone tulip]

Yeah that’s just a lie lmao

[runic dock]

Not like he was hurt in this chapter

Nothing happened to him

[frigid gulch]

I saw all sorts of lightning with BM and Rocks

Not sure about WB

[frozen aspen]

he could have just gone with the offical report. Garp took rocks down and peotected the CD (like a good lapdog)

[formal wagon]

buggy wasn't

[frigid gulch]

[frozen aspen]

[steel stirrup]

Big cap

Huge cap

[frigid gulch]

Then again.. Oda and indicators

[steel stirrup]

10 Gallon Cap

[formal wagon]

😭 squidward helmet

[blazing depot]

https://x.com/3skulljoe/status/1984333002907045922?s=46

Typical Joe (@3SkullJoe)

.Born the same year as Franky
.Had classified knowledge of Punk Hazard lore
.Had history with Ceaser
.Knew Vegapunk well enough to seek his help in curing the Punk Hazard kids.

X · Oct 31, 2025, 6:53 PM

Bros trying to be different 😭

[steel stirrup]

That's called "taking what you can get"

[worthy stratus]

who?

[leaden rivet]

I didn’t even actually know you liked Whitebeard

[frigid gulch]

Always

[steel stirrup]

(Ignore the way he got slimed out after all of this happened tho) lmaooo

[worthy stratus]

wait does smoker really part his hair right where his scar is 😭

[frigid gulch]

It’s why I was repulsed by the Shakky stuff

Almost..

[leaden rivet]

I don’t even remember you not liking it

[frigid gulch]

Hmm well I was discussing it in chat

[sage temple]

Reaching for relevancy

[frigid gulch]

You may have not seen

[runic dock]

In this chapter ? We saw haki lightning and quake cracks when he clashed

[tulip turtle]

Trying to act tuff

[frigid gulch]

We did indeed

[frozen aspen]

who doesn't like wb

[graceful belfry]

And he still came up with the idea of putting a mustache on his Jolly Roger prior to having one. He has a very interesting relationship with his facial hair

[frozen aspen]

aside from akainu fanboys ofc

[frigid gulch]

But the lightning is drawn on impact too

From one person

[tulip turtle]

So what did wb mean by "are we getting in your way rocks?"

[frigid gulch]

That’s just my cope tho

WB may have used it

[pulsar path]

Yeah in giving oda a pass on this because I think this is the sacrifice to get gods valley 🤣 but I'm sure the guy that gave Roger his hate had a mustache lmao

[wraith mantle]

Rocks the goat

[runic dock]

I thought of it as a taunt and half trying to make sense of the situation

Oh yeah we getting in your way!? Fine !

[frigid gulch]

Well he saw Rocks just take out both Kaido and BM

So probably confused

[steel stirrup]

Fuck what they think tho

[wraith mantle]

Breaks my heart

[leaden rivet]

Akainu is such old news

[frozen aspen]

real

[frigid gulch]

Oda stealing

[frozen aspen]

he'll be sabo victim for sure now

[runic dock]

Just like mihawk

[frigid gulch]

[leaden rivet]

This one also

It’s pretty sad

[wraith mantle]

Who invited WB to this

[runic dock]

Oda made it more hype by having it be voat

[pulsar path]

So I'm curious

[steel stirrup]

My heart😭

[frigid gulch]

If Oda was good

[leaden rivet]

That sob emoji is a laugh

[sage temple]

Suicidal parallel

[leaden rivet]

Not much of a cry

[pulsar path]

When the giants got taken over was it the ancient giant blood that was being brought out?

[runic dock]

Eris tearing up when she says so…you lost??

Really gets me

[steel stirrup]

No this is a laugh😂

[sage temple]

It looks like it

[frozen aspen]

stupid baby has zero thoughts in his brain

[leaden rivet]

She didn’t know her man was a fraud 😔

[tulip turtle]

So did anyone notice that Garp and Roger scream released Coc haki?

[sage temple]

Xebec had no horns tho

[steel stirrup]

Yes

[brittle basin]

"even though you weren't ready yet."
-BB absolutely knows lore passed down from his mother

[pulsar path]

So than this. Is xebec ancient blood being brought out

[frigid gulch]

Icl people slandered Akainu for Kuma escaping but..

[runic dock]

Would make a grown man cry 😔

[frigid gulch]

It just happened to Rocks

[pulsar path]

Is xebec a vampire?

[tulip turtle]

Coc probably made rocks resist domi reversi allowing him to use voat to communicate with garp and roger.

[sage temple]

Every Domi Reversi'd person has wings

[obsidian grove]

Thoughts on least favourite and ost favourite warlord before it ended

[frigid gulch]

Usually sword swings are pretty fast

[sage temple]

This isn't a distinguishable trait

[frozen aspen]

we are biased

[frigid gulch]

But Kuma escaped

[sage temple]

The wings are always evident

[tulip turtle]

maybe that is the reason imu was confused since rocks stopped for a moment

[frozen aspen]

[steel stirrup]

Nah it's not the same at all

[frigid gulch]

Well of course

[frigid gulch]

It kinda is tbh

[runic dock]

Voat is just that hype , it can bypass things

[stone tulip]

Like genuinely in denial 😭

[pulsar path]

So than is it just Domi turning them in to demons or is it lineage related ?

[steel stirrup]

Nope

Not even a Lil bit

[frail kindle]

I saw that

[stone tulip]

Fr 😭

[frigid gulch]

Kuma isn’t even there when Rocks is beginning his swing

[sage temple]

Demons prolly

[steel stirrup]

And you know it was an accident so hush

[frigid gulch]

Then Kuma appears to teleport them mid swing

And also teleported himself before Rocks finished

[frozen aspen]

so whats next after GV? Are we gonna see loki throw a tantrum?

[frigid gulch]

Downscale if you ask me

[leaden rivet]

Yes

[steel stirrup]

Nah

[leaden rivet]

Loki is going to be on his hate his daddy arc now

[steel stirrup]

Not the same situation at all

[leaden rivet]

You betrayed rocks or some shit

[tulip turtle]

In Elbaf, we would probably get more voat users, if Luffy used his coc haki too.

[frigid gulch]

Ye I imagine that’ll happen

[leaden rivet]

And then Loki is going to get one tapped by shanks. And then the flashback ends.

[frigid gulch]

Loki crying and running around

[runic dock]

I love how the chapter sort of makes you think kuma spotted Captain John , effective little red herring for the eris surprise later

[leaden rivet]

Loki might even throw in a “this guy is even stronger than rocks” after getting one tapped

[sage temple]

I'm full I don't need much agenda

[dense haven]

eris is the evil mastermind behind the bbp

[frigid gulch]

Stop it

[dense haven]

also eris is mosa

[frigid gulch]

I can’t take it anymore

[steel stirrup]

Lmaoo by who

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-rage-bait-baited-rage-baited-angry-dog-gif-2047466162835898859

[leaden rivet]

Shanks

[runic dock]

Can’t be both

[steel stirrup]

LMAOOO

[sage temple]

BB KILLED ERIS

I'M TELLING YOU

[tulip turtle]

Probably Loki is my guess rn, who will get domi reversi'd and ask Luffy to free him from domi reversi paralleling rocks which would confirm loki too will have voat.

[leaden rivet]

Eris is a cool character I hope she isn’t dead

[steel stirrup]

That's the stupidest shit I've ever heard

[dense haven]

shanks one shot loki

[runic dock]

This guy keeps getting worse and worse takes

[stone tulip]

I think we will see Roger pirates going to Elbaf and meet Harald which leads to Gaban meeting Ripley, then Ohara stuff, followed by the Harald incident.

[sage temple]

FREE YOURSELF FROM YOUR MIND

[runic dock]

Same

[frigid gulch]

Rocks and Harald is almost a little tragic

They will probably die the same way

[sage temple]

BKE IS TRUE

[blazing depot]

Did Eris was pregnant

[brittle basin]

[runic dock]

How babby formed

[blazing depot]

This is not the look of a mother killer tbh

[stone tulip]

Yeah Harald will get domi reversed

[sage temple]

If mom alive why sad

BECAUSE HE KILLED HER

AND HE'S REMORSEFUL

[blazing depot]

Or someone else killed her

This isn’t hard

[frigid gulch]

Then he begs Loki to kill him type shit

[steel stirrup]

Now you just yapping yo life away

[runic dock]

Why does she have to be dead

[thin quest]

it seems obvious that Kuma sent Teech and Eris to different places imo

[runic dock]

Proof?

Panels?

Show me the body

[sage temple]

Maybe that too I guess if you really wanna believe that maybe

[frozen aspen]

don't edge shanks fans on

[sage temple]

There's a reason BB is fat

HE ATE ERIS

[tulip turtle]

What if eris is still alive and oda will probably reveal it in some sbs that where she is right now

[runic dock]

He’s not big mom

[blazing depot]

Brother, Blackbeard killing his mom is the more absurd take

[somber rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-big-mom-young-big-mom-charlotte-linlin-linlin-gif-11783560694820134561

[steel stirrup]

Where's that pic of Oda's scrapped design for Blackbeards mom?

[somber rivet]

She look like a killer to you?

[sage temple]

Just you wait spooke

It will happen

[blazing depot]

Plus it’s a common trope

Evil men love their mamas

[runic dock]

This might be the reality of it

[stone tulip]

Yeah most likely unfortunately

[frigid gulch]

Hmm you’re right..

[sage temple]

BB will kill Eris and you will all bow down to me

[frigid gulch]

There was a double poof

And a double teleport indicator

[dense haven]

eris is alive and is controlling bb from the shadows

[frozen aspen]

eris was a pirate

[hazy turret]

Eris is Mosa

[frozen aspen]

she isan angel probably

[runic dock]

But also doesn’t it depend on where kuma thinks to take you? He would think to take a mother and son to the same place

[frigid gulch]

Damn that’s crazy

[runic dock]

So wait nah

[frigid gulch]

So Eris dies alone..

[runic dock]

Nah it’s up to kuma

[thin quest]

I don't think Kuma had that kind of control with the Paw Paw fruit yet

[runic dock]

It’s not randomized

[worthy stratus]

eris next chapter got killed by 4 year old mihawk

[cold steppe]

Eris is part of blackbeard

[blazing depot]

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EvenBadMenLoveTheirMamas

[frigid gulch]

I guess technically if he sent everyone to Sorbet

[runic dock]

Maybe , maybe it’s automatic info , you do get automatic info about your power when you get it

Oda stated that somewhere

[frigid gulch]

Then it’s fine

[graceful grove]

no one got it right yet with Eris.
Eris is lafayette same as Croco situation

[sage temple]

I'm trick or treating as bro

[frigid gulch]

Depends on how many he visited by that point

[hazy turret]

How is that a trope? Pretty much everyone loves their mom

[worthy stratus]

powerscalers we need your input if this increases his agenda or not

[pulsar path]

When your under alot stress it seems like you could advance really quick with a. Devil fruit

[thin quest]

Kuma was asking people on God valley to think of the place they'd wanna go on vacation as I recall

[hazy turret]

Just read chapter, I don’t know why but it feels so bizarre

[runic dock]

For their preference , if he doesn’t have time to ask then he would pick I imagine

[frigid gulch]

I’m not sure about that

[somber rivet]

Eris is the Godness of Chaos in the Greek Mythology, it will not be strange if she is the one controlling Blackbeard in the shadow, all for the sake of the Davy Clan.

[tulip turtle]

I don't think Eris is staying alive even for a moment if she doesn't find bb with her. Considering those panels where she talked about killing herself and bb.

[leaden rivet]

Ew

[cold steppe]

Maybe blackbeard's 3rd DF is actually his first DF. And he killed her

[worthy stratus]

what if she's just quietly disagreeing

[somber rivet]

Rude

[fallen meteor]

did you click on the wrong series maybe

an adventure of sorts

[hazy turret]

Funny

[worthy stratus]

"blackbeard did you kill another child today???"

[urban lodge]

Rocks is inside BB is dead but what about Eris is inside BB

[thin quest]

a la Stussy and Weevil somewhat

[dense haven]

also I just learned today olivia would be 17 during gods valley so I gotta ask what are the chances oda go that route knowing how freaky he is

[pulsar path]

I think she could Have been hit with some of the metal from the canon

Right before the paw paw fruit

[fallen meteor]

hey do not steal my "ERIS IS GRAFTED IN BB'S BACK" theory

[worthy stratus]

We need this theory rephrased man

[fallen meteor]

i have it patented

[somber rivet]

I guess?

[fallen meteor]

WE HAVE NEVER SEEN BB'S BACK BTW

[urban lodge]

Peak

[runic dock]

Davy jones is inside bb is very much alive tho

Davy jones locker

[fallen meteor]

he's always wearing a fucking shirt or cape thing

[runic dock]

Bottom of darkness

[fallen meteor]

he's hiding eris there

[final trench]

Davy jones locker is the fruit

https://tenor.com/view/blackbeard-one-piece-gif-21250658

[runic dock]

Davy jones is hiding in the fruit

[pulsar path]

The Davey Davey no mi

[leaden rivet]

Marín I think I have to block you for this

Goodbye

[fallen meteor]

aw cmon

[fallen meteor]

exactly

[sage temple]

It's been baby-piece recently and 4 year old Mihawk doing this puts him in the top 3 of babies in terms of strength

[frigid gulch]

Rocks and Eris have been assimilated by BB

[pulsar path]

Hito hito model Davey Jones?

[final trench]

Bb did say the fruit chose him

[frigid gulch]

[leaden rivet]

The thought of it makes me squirm

[runic dock]

[leaden rivet]

It’s just nasty

[fallen meteor]

it's halloween

[runic dock]

Davy jones is inside of him

[final trench]

Not necessarily, but I believe davey jones used this power

[graceful grove]

https://tenor.com/view/konosuba-eris-cheek-finger-gif-9579586068781332661

[fallen meteor]

horror theories are ok today

[cold steppe]

Eris ate whitebeard's DF

[leaden rivet]

Im squeamish to those types of things

[frigid gulch]

Rocks took over BB when he was fighting Shanks

[thin quest]

so the fruits Rocks was talking about have to be the Nika and Darkness fruits respectively right?

[fallen meteor]

it actually makes sense i'm so mad this shit makes sense

[urban lodge]

Oh did we get Estrid's measurements

[fallen meteor]

why does my shittiest theory makes sense

so fucking pissed off

[runic dock]

We can make an educated guess it’s that , cause what else would it be atp

[fallen meteor]

just jinbe dick color

[leaden rivet]

If you’re right Marin I think I’d actually drop one piece

No exaggeration

[somber rivet]

Let me guess. This girl is from a Isekai?

[frozen aspen]

bc oda is a hack

[worthy stratus]

what if blackbeard just is a weird man and doesnt have a soul situation going on

[urban lodge]

Wow

[leaden rivet]

I already kind of want to drop so that would be all it took

[steel stirrup]

Do these three look alike to yall or am i just tweaking

[runic dock]

He’s got a weird body regardless for eating two fruits

[graceful grove]

one of the only good ones yes

[fallen meteor]

i feel it would be a eos reveal type beat

[frozen aspen]

u are tweaking

[iron oriole]

A very good one

[unique lagoon]

funny part is we still have no idea what the DFs are
but high chance one of em is nika
joyboy = nika
davy jones = yami
thats what i think atm

[pulsar path]

So I thought she look like Robin and her mom tbh! But I ae this too

[thin quest]

only other one on the table is the special royal fruit of Elbaf (if that fruit is something other than the Nika fruit)

[runic dock]

I think the old eris is just “bad future eris” and totally canon

[wary jacinth]

I heard another theory, it's not that BB has two hearts or two souls, but maybe he lacks those things.

[fallen meteor]

like BB gets domi reversi'd on god valley and somehow resists it and he reveals theres two minds on his body
stuff like that, last 5 chs reveal

[formal wagon]

inheritence devil fruit

[worthy stratus]

nepotism devil fruit

[pulsar path]

Like so far the only thing that seems to be special about bb is he's a Davey clan

[unique lagoon]

what are the chances that imu knows where eris is after taking over rocks mind

[dense haven]

what is the good ending

[runic dock]

We could have that happen in the present time

[somber rivet]

Konosuba?

[runic dock]

Would be better

[pulsar path]

And I think that's enough

Daveys must have some crazy powers or something

[worthy stratus]

im going to get my ass beat in pokemon cya

[fallen meteor]

it's so out there for one piece that i think oda needs to pull it late

[runic dock]

Her still being hot , she’s bad ending living right now because her man died

[graceful grove]

Oda need to wrap up GV with next chapter. we have seen all he important stuff now. its time to reveal the DF on Elbaf

[graceful grove]

ye

[thin quest]

I don't think Imu could know that, they're not omnipotent

[dense haven]

omni man

[pulsar path]

Is that why tho Imu choose illlusia ?

Like they got a tip

[runic dock]

This flashback is gonna go from domi reversi rocks to domi reversi harald and in present time domi reversi loki

It’s domi reversi themed!

[iron oriole]

Still think Lulusia was just for convenience

It being close by

[pulsar path]

Damn Loki dies after luffy kills him being domin

[urban lodge]

If it's for any other reason that it actually being close it legit ruins the impact

[runic dock]

Yeah it was at random , imu is not perfectly omniscient

Reminder: rocks and imu were both under the impression that rocks successfully killed eris and teech this chapter

[iron oriole]

Honestly the "its close" line was cold af too

[fallen meteor]

kinda cute for a toadgashi one i guess

[iron oriole]

I dont want that to be ruined

[tulip turtle]

Loki will be the first one who get out of domi reversi control completely because of Luffy

[unique lagoon]

i mean for the demons they transform into slaves

[graceful grove]

difference will be Nika being there to reverse it for once

[tulip turtle]

Why is joyboy red haired

[pulsar path]

Yeah but by this time BB is backk

[runic dock]

This is amazing lol

[pulsar path]

And he knows it's Davey's linkage

[fallen meteor]

its the kid's hair

[sage temple]

"for a toadgashi one"

[unique lagoon]

see my logic is im making imu as overpowered as possible
safe bet

[runic dock]

Yep and that’s why he stayed quiet for decades

[fallen meteor]

yeah theres like no slander no powerscaling

[runic dock]

Under a different name

He was literally presumed dead

[pulsar path]

I'm just saying I think it's kinda crazy the first place that Imu destroys is where rocks and Irss were supposed to meet

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/art-the-clown-terrifier-terrifier-3-gif-16556666397396487870

[pulsar path]

It they knew anyways

[unique lagoon]

yeah but eris and blackbeard has been longgg gone since then

so whats the point

dint gorosei say its all bad luck for sabo

[thin quest]

I wonder, I feel like if Imu could learn the thoughts of people who are Reversi'd then Imu would know Shanks is a rat after reading Harald's mind

[iron oriole]

Yeah

[runic dock]

Yeah luffy will be the difference between all 3 times , and I think it will end in him saving Lokis life even tho he might have to beat him up first

[pulsar path]

Imu obviously isn't rational about the Davey clan

[unique lagoon]

but we got a reason ye? it was "closer"

[runic dock]

I don’t think they did

[pulsar path]

But why he didn't attack pirate island

[unique lagoon]

it was closer and its part of the 8 revolting nations

[pine ridge]

I think eris and rocks wanted to meet on lulusia cause it's close to mariejois and would allow them to attack quickly once they're ready. imu destroyed lulusia cause it being close made it the most convenient island to test uranus on. just kind of an unfortunate coincidence

[runic dock]

Cause it’s bum village after rocks died , wang zhi controlled it , who even cares anymore

[pulsar path]

I mean BB had it tho at this point

I'm saying if Imu knows that bb is a Davey

[unique lagoon]

oh you going with shanks is a former HK then?

[pulsar path]

You would think he would eliminate him right away

[runic dock]

Oh in modern time? My bad , idk yeah cause imu just made a decision on a whim without thinking over it

[graceful grove]

its very Oda to set up Loki that way. It will also simultaneously clear his name with physical proof of what happened with Harald.

[runic dock]

“Cause it’s close”

“Meh”

[pulsar path]

I guess

[thin quest]

If not a former HK, he went on the inside to learn the WG/Imu as best a possible. I'm still trying to wrap my head around how Shanks convinced the WG and the HKs to let him into their inner circle though.

[pulsar path]

Idk I feel like it's just a. Crazy random name drop

[unique lagoon]

OR imu did another blunder and thought eris and bb was actually dead

[pulsar path]

I don't think it's as hard if your a CD that wasn't abolished

[deep chasm]

I doubt shanks was ever a HK, I think he prolly just was either captured or went along with it for a while and realized its a bunch of bad people

[iron oriole]

Shanks: dad i've returned
Garling: MY SON! YOU SHALL BE A HK

[deep chasm]

probably captued Id say

[runic dock]

It seems like a genuine in story coincidence , but maybe it’s clues us in on something else from another angle: maybe eris has been alive all this time and sabo saved her

[pulsar path]

No they know by this time based on what Saturn says

[tough igloo]

yeah based off how imu reacted after they escaped , it seems like they actually thought rocks killed them in that moment along with the canon balls and i don’t think they find out until the reverie that he survived

[thin quest]

wouldn't they be wary of him having been a Roger Pirates crew member though? surely that must've been knowledge they had

[unique lagoon]

nepotism i guess
remember the other HK was looking for the twins
they seam that important

for garling at least

[iron oriole]

If captured why would he be allowed to leave freely which is what Shamrocks implied

[runic dock]

I think he went back willingly and did a “trial run” lmao

[pulsar path]

Yeah it's possible for even afraid of bb having Children there?

[thin quest]

yeah I guess Shanks being a "child of date" might make things easier

[urban lodge]

He definitely went back willingly

[unique lagoon]

what did he say again?

[graceful grove]

they don't care about bugs that much

[deep chasm]

I dont think shamrock necessarily indicaterd he left freely

[urban lodge]

But it could have been part of a plan

[deep chasm]

maybe, but I doubt he'd have done that considering he grew up with roger. Im sure he already was aware theyre bad people

[pulsar path]

I don't think they really care lol or tbh do we even know if shanks was known to be on the ship

[deep chasm]

if anything this

[thin quest]

you think it was as easy as Shanks throwing on a facade of "yeah actually I was a hostage and I'm so glad to be back in the Holy Land!"

[deep chasm]

if it was willingly he went for ulterior motives

[runic dock]

Hmm, maybe he just wanted to “see things for himself” in a way like “are these really my people? I’ll never feel comfortable if I don’t see for myself”

[iron oriole]

It didn't really imply that they tried to stop Shanks, idt the CDs ultimately care... you don't want to be here? Fine leave...

[deep chasm]

I cant imagine him being that naive if he grew up until teenages as a pirate

[royal orchid]

yoooo how are you my fellow... dragons?

[deep chasm]

well we just dont know what happened

[runic dock]

Idk , pirates hear all kinds of rumors , perhaps he wanted peace of mind

[pulsar path]

Damn watch us find out they sent him to find the Nika 🤣

[unique lagoon]

Roger has something to do with shanks being "Child of Destiny"
shanks wanted to chill but now he has this whole new purpose
roger pirates disbanded
shanks went to mary geoise back to CD for intel gathering about it
leading to talking to herald and going to elbaf

that fits ye?

[thin quest]

I think he went to try and understand the WG as much as possible as well as use their resources to learn where the Nika fruit might be

[deep chasm]

Thats not rlly a rumor thing. He grew up with the roger pirates he wouldve experienced something related to cds byt hat age

[deep chasm]

sure that could be the case

if he went willingly hoping to betray them from the start

[runic dock]

The cd killing games were a rumor even to WB , there could have been things he wasn’t sure about in regards to them especially these people who hide things

[wide star]

shanks on his travels to find the Nika fruit encounters Teach (who’s also looking for it along with the yami yami ) and that’s how they fight 🤔

[thin quest]

I think Shanks is the custodian of Roger's Will (the Will of D)

[graceful grove]

he was taken as a baby. i doubt they cared as long as he came back on his own and didn't cause issues

[deep chasm]

I dont think theres much chance he just didnt know whether they were bad or not

he couldve went thinking oh lemme get some info from them

or even if he hoped he could change his twin brother or sumn like that

[runic dock]

Not whether they were bad or not , but just like learn more about them , recon I guess you could say

[deep chasm]

but thats the highest itd go

I dont think he wouldve went thinking he could find good in cds, besides maybe his brother or dad

[thin quest]

I wonder if we'll get Shanks' Abyss Branding story after GV

it seems relevant to the Elbaf arc

[unique lagoon]

you guys think theres a WG agent when herald died?

what if it was shanks looking at the DF box

[runic dock]

“Besides maybe “ is enough to be curious enough to check things out , even you gave that concession just now

[deep chasm]

to check things out regarding his dad and brother sure

[thin quest]

I think CP0 or a HK being on Elbaf during the murder of Harald makes a ton of sense

[tough igloo]

lol that would be funny if that’s how Teach & Shanks ran. into each other after Roger death .. i guess Teach just snuck off the ship since none of the WB pirates knew about it

[deep chasm]

Im still saying theres no chance he went thinking hmmm lemme go find out about the cds in general

[unique lagoon]

wait i forgot about the giant magic circle in heralds throne room
someone was def there

[deep chasm]

atbest he wouldve hoped to convince his dad or brother ot be better people

[urban lodge]

There had to be a holy knight yeah, because someone had to put down the summoning circle

[thin quest]

Shanks definitely was using his status to gain information he couldn't get otherwise

[graceful grove]

its the classic "let me go and find my real parents" situation

[thin quest]

That much I think is clear

[urban lodge]

I think it was Garling

[unique lagoon]

aint it the only summoning circle we know that remains on the ground after casting

[runic dock]

I could see something along those lines and him failing miserably in that regard

Then maybe they try to force him to stay

And he escapes

[fallen meteor]

thats when they swapped the nika for the cloud logia

[unique lagoon]

lesgo cloud logia

[urban lodge]

It would be I think, but it's the only explanation

[unique lagoon]

better yet
awakened cloud logia

[urban lodge]

Because they can't just teleport anywhere at any time

[unique lagoon]

seeing how imu has multiple types of spells why not i guess

[thin quest]

I think Shanks was able to leave the Holy Land of his own accord when he was done with what he needed, I don't think he had to make a big scene

[graceful grove]

there is no need for these speculation. Imu already mentioned he knows all about Harald and Giants. clearly have plans to use them so he must have someone there at that point

[unique lagoon]

shanks should have his crew already when he visited gaban right?

[thin quest]

I feel like Shanks almost certainly learned of the Nika fruit shipment during his time in the Holy Land

[trim lily]

yeah for a long while

wait no that was before harald’s death

[thin quest]

that scene is a year before he gets the Nika fruit right?

[runic dock]

It’s 50/50 in my mind if he was forced to stay or not , because Cd also seem very lackadaisical in some regards lmao

[unique lagoon]

but its more fun talking about details

[runic dock]

Like they will not care about certain shit

[tough igloo]

yeah , he already had his crew when he fought Blackbeard & in the gaban scene he already has the scar

[runic dock]

I think shanks visited Mariejois before his crew and before his scar , right after Roger died

[thin quest]

good thoughts everyone, I like this line of thinking we're on

[wide star]

yeah that makes the most sense honestly

[unique lagoon]

now that i think about it
i wonder if shanks scar was due to his whole child of destiny bit

[runic dock]

It would explain his answer to buggy too, he wanted to take care of something first

Or something

[thin quest]

I think Shanks gets scarred when Rocks comes out of BB without warning because he recognizes Shanks as Garling

[warm fossil]

sometimes you find a banger

[wide star]

roger dies , crew disbands , shanks tells buggy he’s not going after one piece right now , goes to mariejois, leaves and doesn’t like it , builds his crew , fights Teach & Mihawk , gets Nika fruit , loses arm

[runic dock]

[runic dock]

Oh my god

[unique lagoon]

somehow met herald in mary geoise

[warm fossil]

did juba make this

[blazing depot]

Apapapapa check it outttt

[thin quest]

BB has an obvious bone to pick with the Figarland family

[deep chasm]

on a less relevant note

[wide star]

does he though ? he doesn’t seem to care much , it’s shanks who cares that most

[deep chasm]

Id love if shanks and shamrock fought before shqanks left

[unique lagoon]

you can kinda estimate how old shanks was when he went to CDs
basing on when he met herald

[wide star]

we never see Teach talk about Shanks though, just the other way around

[deep chasm]

like shamrock tried to stop him from leaving, and shanks beat him in a fight to escape

[somber rivet]

Never expected this. Appo stands. What´s next? Hawkins fans? Drake fans? Caribou fans?

The world is really a weid place

[blazing depot]

X Drake is actually underrated tbh

He’s pretty cool

[runic dock]

It would be so funny if Garling ever meets bb and Garling goes THAT FACE!! ITS YOU

And bb just yawns and looks away because Garling got no diffed by rocks three times in one day

[urban lodge]

I never thought there'd come a day where I would be excited for a future Shanks flashback

[somber rivet]

He did virtually nothing in Wano

[thin quest]

X Drake is gonna be really important soon

[deep chasm]

the supernova were disappointing in wano

the ones not on the roof

[thin quest]

X Drake's hobby? Astrophysics

[blazing depot]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-xdrake-x-drake-diez-drake-x-drake-one-piece-gif-11096043143685050809

Rule of cool

[unique lagoon]

or any HKs would work trying to stop shanks
even count garling there
could even be a gorosei meeting after he left

[blazing depot]

Awesome Dino fruit

[urban lodge]

His hybrid is so ugly tho

[graceful grove]

shanks and his famiy had it comming

[blazing depot]

Fuck you

[deep chasm]

well I dont think any of those are as cool as his twin trying to stop him lol

[runic dock]

They served their purpose , I like that one actually died in a fight , I like that one branched off to completely do his own shit

[blazing depot]

It’s cool

[somber rivet]

He has the Imu eyes

[runic dock]

Don’t have to be funneled to the roof to be cool

[somber rivet]

in his dino form

[deep chasm]

I didnt say anything about the roof

they just were disappointing

if what they did was their role then their role was disappointing

[unique lagoon]

rule of cool is fair
can be multiple characters
you think gorosei knows about shanks child of destiny bit?

[runic dock]

I know , you said the ones not on the roof , and I said they were fun in their own ways ? Idk why the roof had to do with anything

[thin quest]

yeah but I could understand why Shanks is also so salty about it too, he had nothing to do with Rocks' death

[somber rivet]

You know as much as i know that Hawkins will come back, totally alive

[wide star]

whenever this flashback ends , i’m most excited to get back to Teach & Garp in present day .. this flashback added so much context to whatever they talk about

[deep chasm]

as in Im saying the ones who were on the roof are not included because they actually did impressive things

Im not saying being on the roof is what determines if you were cool or not

[graceful grove]

worst one from his Gen. should've been 6feet under in wano with Basil

[runic dock]

Nah they’re not all meant to be prominent and glazed , false expectation just cause they’re called supernova , it’s much more realistic and cool some died and aren’t as successful

[deep chasm]

but like someone else said, drake did virtually nothing for example

[pulsar path]

Could it be only people with wing blood can be turned into Domi?

Maybe onaciant giants were a 4th winged race?

[unique lagoon]

good job kuzan
that mf and roger manage to kill my demonic dad

[thin quest]

he's gonna be the guy that helps the SHs get to outer space and Lodestar

[graceful grove]

but the little rat is going around snitching on him now xd

[deep chasm]

Okay and Im saying its lack luster if their role is just be there and die. their roles were ass then. We couldve done more with them and still have some of them die and not ever reach the roof

[runic dock]

That’s fine I didn’t need him to fight , he served to highlight sword’s role in the overall story

Again false expectations

[deep chasm]

its not false expectations its wasting characters potential

[wide star]

lol imagine leaving your base with koby as a prisoner and return and now it’s Garp instead lol gonna feel like you hit the jackpot

[deep chasm]

you can be happy with what he did, Im saying his contribution was disappointing

[wide star]

guess “fate” was on Teach side once again

[unique lagoon]

so how do you guys think GV will "vanish" at the end here?
buster call?
DF clash?
ancient weapon?
Whitebeard DF?

[somber rivet]

Wonder if Blackbeard will want a chat with one of the killer of his dad.

[runic dock]

He’s still alive , so because he didn’t get a 1v1 it’s wasted potential? I’m more concerned about the story not fights

[deep chasm]

you introduced a supernova however many hundreds of chapters ago and put him on this crew just for him to explain to us that sword exists

[somber rivet]

Especially when Blackbeard did not know what happened there.

[pulsar path]

I'm kidding

[deep chasm]

where did I say a 1v1 either. Youre assuming things

[unique lagoon]

well yeah im saying how it got destroyed
that aftermat is fine

[wide star]

probably just to rage bait him like he be doing with his grandson lol

[iron oriole]

I'm not

[runic dock]

Buster call , it becomes a ruined island , moria eventually finds it and takes it , it disappears off the map

[deep chasm]

he just didnt do much of note. The only contribution to the arc you could name is him introducing sword as a concept

thats disappointing

[formal wagon]

notice blackbeard is taller than luffy. this is because he's a better person.

[deep chasm]

dont assume Im saying this out of some powerscaling hypebeast mindset because you cant imagine this take otherwise

[somber rivet]

That montain is giving us the middle finger?

[pulsar path]

Lol yeah

[unique lagoon]

they did a buste rcall on ohara
and there was still a good chunk of land remaning
but this one completely vanished

[somber rivet]

he is good at that, especially when Garp is in chains

[unique lagoon]

thats the only thing stopping me from thinking its bustercall

[runic dock]

Okay that’s what I was afraid of

Good

[pulsar path]

There is a kid that looks like Moriah

[runic dock]

I think that’s cause moria ends up taking it

We don’t technically know when it vanished

[wide star]

i’m still holding out hope that Harald shows up

[unique lagoon]

cool idea but moria just moved an island

[runic dock]

Yeap!

[unique lagoon]

how

unless GV was always meant to be moved

[runic dock]

Maybe he had a method that just works , there is a device around thriller bark

Holding it together

[fluid cedar]

Kozuki Davy Moria

[pulsar path]

Exactly!

Who knew the true Nika was Moriah

[graceful grove]

Damn it Kuma. there are too many GV survivors now

[formal wagon]

gecko morbidly

[pulsar path]

Wasn't god valley in west blue too

I heard kid lives on a small piece of Godvalley

[fluid cedar]

yes

[wide star]

Nefertiti D Buggy or Manmayaer Buggy 🤔😂

[pulsar path]

Infact I hear kids mom is shanks moms sister

[fluid cedar]

nerona buggy

[iron oriole]

Davey D Manmayer Buggy

[pulsar path]

Buggy D. Rayleigh

He blonde

[graceful grove]

no it was just a floater from Zunesha. Oda just confirmed it

[pulsar path]

Damn

That's beautiful

That's might be the best kid diss this year

[runic dock]

So you’re telling me if zunisha never pooped there we would never have the foxy arc?

[somber rivet]

Shame the theory of Mihawk being the son of Rayleigh died in this flashback...but the theory of Mihawk being the pupil of Rayleigh and that´s how he know Shanks still live on.

[graceful grove]

im sorry killer, but you gotta take this hit for this xd

[formal wagon]

most creative eustass diss this year has to be uslesss d mid

[blazing depot]

Captain John’s entire existence means Kid slander

[graceful grove]

mvp

[thin quest]

Eustass Kid is a bum

[iron oriole]

Kid wishes he could be as cool as John

[dense haven]

oda can't stop slandering kid it's crazy

[urban lodge]

He is cooler than John actually

[thin quest]

he deserves it and more

[dense haven]

I thought 1079 would've been the end

[urban lodge]

John is hot but that's kind of it

[formal wagon]

it= the one piece

[graceful grove]

and trolling Yamato fans with "going to join any day now"

[somber rivet]

Someone put a pistol in his head in Wano and that´s the only reason he help his own against Kaido and Big Mom. Maybe originally only Law defeated Big Mom.

[urban lodge]

But yeah that fruit is fucking cursed

[thin quest]

Vivi is the only person left who might join, cope and seethe Momo and Yamato stans

[runic dock]

That one is a couple years old

[dense haven]

not after the sbs

[graceful grove]

aktually that died today as well xd

[dense haven]

only bad ending vivi becomes a pirate

[formal wagon]

nah, i don't think so

[somber rivet]

Wait, there a new SBS?

[formal wagon]

brand new

[iron oriole]

Captain "Aura" John & Rocks D "Farmer" Xebec looking out to sea at some more free loot

[runic dock]

I heard it tho

[atomic spindle]

Yamato should start the wano pirates crew

[graceful grove]

only bonney has a shot

[blazing depot]

Lilith

She becomes the team’s scientist

[somber rivet]

Or Gunko

[dense haven]

it's quite clear tbh it's a bad end because vivi abandons her country to become a pirate and thats bad

[atomic spindle]

Vivi won't add any value

[dense haven]

I've been telling people

[formal wagon]

im trolling earl, sorry. i know its old and uncreative. 😔

[somber rivet]

Wonder who will be the "Princess" in distress in the next arc. There are always one of the kind in every arc.

[runic dock]

A rare spice cook

[runic dock]

Ope! You got me!

[formal wagon]

well honestly alabasta kind of sucks so she should

[unique lagoon]

[graceful grove]

Gunko fate was sealed when Imu bluetooth connected to her. she is 100000% dying this arc

[formal wagon]

my apologies

[urban lodge]

No

[atomic spindle]

Bonney should join revos

[formal wagon]

no

[urban lodge]

She will live

[formal wagon]

revs suck and i don't like them

almost as bad as the sreawhats

[dense haven]

pell didn't tank a nuke to be abandoned like that

[runic dock]

If she gets her immortality taken away then she might grow to like 100 years old lol

[dense haven]

vivi will stay in alabasta

[woven heron]

https://x.com/Toadgashi/status/1984310660700819954?t=fgP-rcoDj7rpRH5ccHEU8Q&s=19

Toad||🌊 (@Toadgashi)

#ONEPIECE1164 🎃

X · Oct 31, 2025, 5:25 PM

[somber rivet]

She is younger than Brook

So like 85

[iron oriole]

Brook is 90

So she should be like 70s

[graceful grove]

next arc is Lodestar with BB so thats Robin. last piece to find OP

[somber rivet]

Yeah, something like that

[unique lagoon]

i thought that arrow was about to stab jones

[urban lodge]

Toadgashi drew the most generic npc as Joyboy

[somber rivet]

Hopes BB did not take Robin...unless the theory of Olivia and Eris bein related

[blazing mantle]

Also that battle damage is gonna catch up with her

Her old body won’t be able to take it

[atomic spindle]

Who would be an interesting SHs member?

[dense haven]

loki

[runic dock]

Me

[blazing mantle]

Loki

[runic dock]

I’d add a lot

[iron oriole]

Con D Oriano

[graceful grove]

with the brook connection and that little moment we got, she is bound to get a feel good moment before Imu does her like Saurn

[runic dock]

Yeah if only for a moment

[somber rivet]

Colon

[atomic spindle]

Loki is huge
Nothing of value outside if combat

[dense haven]

same as zoro

[runic dock]

Bb takes him and just had him float on a bigger log

[runic dock]

Zoro isn’t big

Stupid

[amber lark]

GUYS!!! ...I just realized that Katakuri is older than Shanks D:

[urban lodge]

Only his chest is

[iron oriole]

With Gunkmu clearly being different to Imuturn, almost like a perfect vessel sort of deal... idk if Imu would be so quick to cast her aside

[urban lodge]

Oops

[runic dock]

lmao I see you

[somber rivet]

Katakuri fans in shame.

[urban lodge]

I was gonna cook Barlaxy again but I forgot

[amber lark]

Katakuri was already about two years old when Shanks was born 😭

[somber rivet]

Imu probably will cast her aside if she get Vivi as his new eternal maid

[atomic spindle]

Loki and Yamato are better as captains of crews for their legendary countries

[thin quest]

wait show me the SBS question!

[somber rivet]

Also...why just now Imu wants Vivi?

[somber rivet]

She was right there all this time

[graceful grove]

pins

[hard fulcrum]

You don't think BB will make it to Laugh Tale? Plus, he's got Pudding as a potential Poneglyph reader. And there's still the Man Marked by Flames holding onto that last Poneglyph.

[sage temple]

These white roles man

[atomic spindle]

Elbaph and Wano deserve good crews

[somber rivet]

He is the same age as Blackbeard then.

[runic dock]

He finally got a picture of what she looked like I would guess

[atomic spindle]

Colon as a rookie is interesting

[tranquil blade]

Nah Katakuri is a few years older than him I'm pretty sure

[iron oriole]

Idk... even then why not have 2 perfect vessels etc

[amber lark]

yeah! .. I had a younger image of Katakuri in my mind :c

[sage temple]

Loki is the strongest Elbaphian and the gap between him and the 2nd strongest is huge so I hope he doesn't captain these people

[runic dock]

Imu keeps calling people by their ancient names , Lily , joyboy , Davy jones , he can’t get nobody right , Imu is bad at putting faces to names

[amber lark]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-nefeltari-vivi-vivi-nefertari-vivi-vivi-cry-gif-13650098532500960846

[sage temple]

I'd rather an outside nation Loki builds a crew from

[atomic spindle]

Elbaph needs him
Same as Yamato

[runic dock]

You must be Lily right? Nope

You must be joyboy right? Nope

You must be Davy jones right? Never met the guy!!

Imu is dumb

[tranquil blade]

Well Loki clearly cares enough about Elbaph that he doesn't want it to be invaded no matter how weak they are

[sage temple]

Elbaph needs Loki for protection

Loki can just make Elbaph his territory

[amber lark]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-nefertari-vivi-miss-wednesday-anime-hypnosis-gif-22868044

[unique lagoon]

[stone tulip]

Maybe something to do with this ?

[amber lark]

So Vivi was 16 when she did that forbidden dance?

[atomic spindle]

Imu needs therapy fr

[sage temple]

Luffy didn't want Wano invaded so he made it his territory. Loki can do the same with Elbaph

[atomic spindle]

800 years trauma

[urban lodge]

That's the generic princess age for Oda for some reason

[sage temple]

If Loki has a crew I wonder what his jolly roger is

[unique lagoon]

imu just trauma dumping on em smh

[somber rivet]

She has a mysterious power, indeed

Maybe related to Uranus?

[atomic spindle]

Like bro I would forget my family after 150 years

[iron oriole]

Thats if the island known as Elbaf exists after the arc

[hard fulcrum]

Isn't Elbaph part of Shanks' territory already though?

[stone tulip]

Loki would join Hajrudin’s as co captains because of that and Yamato would seem to be building his own scabbard based on what’s happening with Ulti and Page one

[iron oriole]

I feel Ragnarok will truly come

[unique lagoon]

not confirmed

[tranquil blade]

No

[unique lagoon]

but shanks is close to em so maybe

[urban lodge]

It's probably just because of her resemblance to Lily

[tranquil blade]

They just like Shanks

[sage temple]

Not really

They're just friends more so

[graceful grove]

its a race that will come down to 2 main contenders. thats obviously BB and Luffy. it has always been framed as PK will be whoever finds OP and reaching LT is essentially just that. i see LT as the reward itself.

[stone tulip]

If Imu doesn’t have Uranus then I can see Vivi being one herself, either that or something related to Pluton

[unique lagoon]

you can argue shanks is the closest yonko to elbaf

i wonder how WBs relation was with em

[sage temple]

I hope Elbaph gets Lulusia'd ngl

[somber rivet]

Also, one of my favorites pages in the manga of all time

[stone tulip]

Plus whatever Vivi power up would be it might be related to how Lili scattered the Poneglyphs

[tranquil blade]

They're allies instead, if Elbaph was his territory he'd have an even higher bounty and Big Mom wouldnt be going on about getting the giants on her side

[stone tulip]

I can see why

[sage temple]

I'd rather Elbaph fall than just sit there forever

[blazing depot]

But

[unique lagoon]

yeap WG would consider shanks having the strongest army out there

[blazing depot]

What about Loki

[unique lagoon]

what about him?

[sage temple]

Yes and I'm talking about the future of Loki's pirating days. Where he'd become a pirate and claim Elbaph as his territory

Loki's bounty is already 2.6 billion anyways

[frozen aspen]

he gets lulusia'd too

[graceful grove]

Luffy was right to throw hands at this xd the nerve to try this bs

[unique lagoon]

you mean elbaf gets destroyed?

[atomic spindle]

What's a role that's needed for SH crew?

[sage temple]

He's foreshadowed to be in the final war so he escapes

[tranquil blade]

It'll probably be Luffy's territory if it's anybody's realistically

[iron oriole]

I do think it ends up destroyed but not by Imu/WGs doing, i can see more Loki/Luffy destroying Elbaf to stop Imu having control of the island

[sage temple]

Realistically Loki outlives Luffy

Realistically in the end Loki would make the most sense to have territory there

[somber rivet]

Hopes we get a relevant island get´s lulusia´d too before the end of the manga. Maybe Arabasta, Dresrrosa o even a island from the East Blue

[sage temple]

Realistically Loki already has claimed the first world as his domain in some ways

[hard fulcrum]

I see Laugh Tale as the big stage and Lodestar as the dressing room, in a sense. Though I'm still not sure about whether we'll get another arc or two, since chasing down the Man Marked By Flames, and the whole Marie Geoise situation could work.

[sage temple]

But I digress 😔

[unique lagoon]

i wonder if lokis df will actually deal with imu/gunko

[sage temple]

Yeah that's what I thought as well

[sage temple]

It's one of the two devil fruits in the series that's called legendary

[unique lagoon]

so loki did eat whats in the box
and its not the nika df

[atomic spindle]

Rocks seemed interested in it

[unique lagoon]

its not yami also
so yami is not one of em

[stone tulip]

I mean based on Gaban’s wording and even the warning about not staying for long, I can see that

[sage temple]

The Elbaphians have already seen Loki's powers so I doubt they see it and continue to say it's legendary just because they want to

[unique lagoon]

theres no doubt about it being legandary
it was also called forbidden DF

[sage temple]

[hard fulcrum]

Alabasta would be ideal tbh. Vivi's out of danger but there's still a sense of attachment to the place for the audience, it also connects back to Crocodile, Robin, and Pluton. Plus, Imu is petty enough to destroy 'Lili's' home.

[unique lagoon]

its about what it is

totally new DF?

[sage temple]

Yeah and the only other DF called this was Nika

So it probably has some fighting strength against Imu

[unique lagoon]

its not yami then
yami is a different thing

[stone tulip]

After the Sbs today I think we can rule out Arabasta especially with Vivi’s good future

[somber rivet]

Yeah, and maybe even show Vivi when he destroy it. Somehow like when Princess Leia saw how Alderan explode in Star Wars

[unique lagoon]

darkness DF is also considered one of the rarest DF ye?

[graceful grove]

it won't go down in LT. we are witnessing what happens to an island when serious big hitters clash in a death match. imagine how lame it will be if 2 ppl find everything and make it to LT at the same time but the PK is the one that found it 5 sec early

[stone tulip]

A new devil fruit is possible especially if it’s connected to Elbaf

[urban lodge]

They're all equally rare technically

[hard fulcrum]

I wouldn't bet on it. SBS Ace got a 'good future' and 'bad future' too... and he reached neither.

[stone tulip]

Logia in general are rare af

[atomic spindle]

For Rocks, Harald was supposed to eat the fruit or it won't have the desired effect

[unique lagoon]

so we got the nika DF
new legendary df loki ate
and yami yami is just a wild card DF?

[stone tulip]

You just had to rub it in didn’t you ???

But with all seriousness that’s good point tho

[hard fulcrum]

I don't think the story ends with Luffy becoming the Pirate King. I expect he gets at least one fight as Pirate King. Plus, I think the One Piece actually does something, given Roger's 'too early' declaration.

[sage temple]

Yet only Loki's and Luffy's are named legendary

Quite interesting

[graceful grove]

it is likely the same DF used by Davy. its other use could easily be getting access to the Davy Jones Locker

[unique lagoon]

im just asking if you guys think yami is considered legendary

thats my point

[sage temple]

I don't think it's legendary until someone in the story says it's legendary

That's the case for Loki n Luffy

Not BB

[hard fulcrum]

BB describes the Darkness Fruit as 'the most evil'. It might have been kept out of any legends.

[sage temple]

It has potential to be legendary though. Oda does love to do things in threes

[unique lagoon]

because he was looking for it for a long ass time
thats one of his main goals
aint that a big deal already?

[graceful grove]

obviously. VP just told everyone their next step is finding OP and you will learn what to do next after. that would be taking down Imu

[runic dock]

With all the other plot points I almost forgot this

[hard fulcrum]

I expect BB to be dealt with after Imu since he and Luffy are looking to the future and Imu looks to the past.

[stone tulip]

Rayleigh even said something along the lines of the straw hats would reach towards a different conclusion

[unique lagoon]

and surely the yami df has more unlocks
oda really not showing a lot

[runic dock]

Definitely

[hard fulcrum]

I think that's a simplification of both characters.

[runic dock]

Oda always offscreened it

[unique lagoon]

what do we got? black hole? black vortex? did i miss anything?

[runic dock]

That’s not the correct term to use , this shined light on things we had no context on

[hard fulcrum]

Liberation

[stone tulip]

I mean to be fair rocks pirates do always betray each other as we seen with Shiki and especially Ochoku but man this would be depressing if that’s the case too

[unique lagoon]

thats the one where he pukes the stuff he absorb ye?

black hole then liberation

[sage temple]

Zoro: "Pirate King Luffy, I must do my duty as a bounty hunter..."

[runic dock]

Kaido and Bm never did that to rocks himself tho

Never

[stone tulip]

I guess that’s true

[thin quest]

I often liberate many things from my black hole as well

[sage temple]

Yeah the darkness df looks promising

[somber rivet]

They did not see his giant horns and fangs?

[runic dock]

Bm also was friendly with kaido for a while , so Kaido is extra rubbed the wrong way because of her as well

More than Bm

[hard fulcrum]

Tbf, he stole the Fruit, lol.

[graceful grove]

yup. it probably says the fate of the world and leaves it to the reader to choose what path they take to fixing it type of situation.

[runic dock]

She promised it to him

[formal gull]

Is this a place where we can make random theories, (not the serious ones)

[runic dock]

He had every right

[unique lagoon]

like this totally new theory

[stone tulip]

Yeah whatever the conclusion it is it all depends on how they feel after they find out the full truth

[iron oriole]

I hope the mountain landed on Ganzui

[formal wagon]

wait no break this week?

[unique lagoon]

this theory going in the trash thinking rocks had the yami df

[formal wagon]

next they'll tell me egghead ends in december or sumn

[runic dock]

I thought the kaido and luffy fought would have done this to pluton

Revealed it

[graceful grove]

he probably thought of it as stealing a snack your sibling cooked xd that goofball

[runic dock]

Bit nope

[woven talon]

I think the yami fruit is one of the ones he wanted

[unique lagoon]

nah sadly they got stuck in onigashima

[urban lodge]

Crazy that Wang Zhi is just chilling with his new island while all of this is happening

[iron oriole]

Wang Zhi the fucking snake

[runic dock]

I wanted luffy to drag kaido’s head along the entire wall perimeter

[iron oriole]

I hope we see something of Rocky Port, even if just a couple pages of convo with BB & Wang Zhi

[unique lagoon]

best bet you can have is
caribou tells BB about pluton
BBP goes to wano
cant get up the waterfall
BB use gura and destroy the wall
but they will get hit by a big wave of water

[iron oriole]

They can get up easily

Just have Pizzaroll become Wano

[unique lagoon]

i want to know how pizza merge with islands

[graceful grove]

funny isn't it. It likely says Imu need to be dealt with and they will need certain things. Roger being a witness in GV should know he had no chance without them.... hence, he was too early

[runic dock]

Pizzaro takes off his coat which takes off the walls lol

[unique lagoon]

they can teleport above
use pizaro
or go underground use that hidden port

if they use the hidden port thats basically a shortcut to pluton

more covert

[stone tulip]

Yeah Roger was too early cause a lot of stuff didn’t happen yet like Shirahoshi’s birth for example

[urban lodge]

Someone needs to ask Oda how his fruit would work with bigger Islands

Because hachinosu is relatively small

[runic dock]

Or like a continent

Can he take over everything lmao

[unique lagoon]

if you want to go crazy
use pizzaro to merge with redline under mary geoise

[graceful grove]

i think if he hasn't been on GV, he would've rushed in regardless like he used to

[iron oriole]

Presumably so

[urban lodge]

There has to be a limitation

[unique lagoon]

its all range i think

[runic dock]

There HAS to be a max limit…

[unique lagoon]

every DF has range

i think

[formal wagon]

i sink

eustass kid

[unique lagoon]

[stone tulip]

I think god valley definitely affected Roger in some way

[runic dock]

Sniped

[formal wagon]

Snorped

[graceful grove]

Awakened Pizzaro resurrects Pangea and saves the world.

[runic dock]

I think it made him start asking questions about za warudo

[unique lagoon]

yeah about that
roger was not collecting poneglyph yet right?

[runic dock]

So he explored it

[formal wagon]

pizza

[runic dock]

Nope

[formal wagon]

ro

[iron oriole]

He may have come across some but he wasn't searching for them like that no

[stone tulip]

God valley happened after Roger went to Lodestar right ?

[runic dock]

As in yes he wasn’t collecting them

[formal wagon]

why does pizzzaro talk like a cat

[runic dock]

Before

[stone tulip]

When did he went there ?

[sage temple]

what time do i go trick or treating

[formal wagon]

what if instead of collecting the one piece, the pirates had to collect 4 red cubes that led them to a secret treasure.

1pm

[urban lodge]

It was a year after lodestar

[sage temple]

little late for that

[formal wagon]

next year i guess

[runic dock]

Source?

[hard fulcrum]

Shanks' age

[runic dock]

I’m not following

[urban lodge]

I think he says to Oden he reached Lodestar 13 years before, and this is 12

[wide star]

Toki & Davy Jones descendant were on WB ship at the same time.. if only she knew , they could’ve talked about so much

[runic dock]

13 years before what

[wide star]

“ i know your great great great x10 granddaddy “

[urban lodge]

Before they met

[formal wagon]

what if sandman is oda's dad

[urban lodge]

So like 26 years ago?

[formal wagon]

the s in sandmand stands for seichiro

[urban lodge]

I'm bad at math

Lemme try to find it

[formal wagon]

6+7

[wide star]

this is Roger’s life timeline

[runic dock]

Did he say that 26 years ago or 25? My confusion is I thought it was 25

[iron oriole]

Chapter 966

[runic dock]

I see , thanks

[urban lodge]

Oh there we go

[glass plume]

i want to know what caused Roger to become a pirate

Garp hinted that his childhood was similair to that of Ace

[runic dock]

Oda changed god valley from 40 years ago to 38 years ago when he first released the chapter that revealed how long ago GV was , now I think I realize why

Something to do with lodestar and voat

[blazing mantle]

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Charlotte Linlin

X · Oct 31, 2025, 1:55 PM

[runic dock]

And now I bet garp clashed with Roger in lodestar

[blazing mantle]

Shiki mentioned

[formal wagon]

byoing

[runic dock]

Young linlin with a face that’s not an evil smile

[graceful grove]

cute mom

[glass plume]

Lodestar must be visited soon

[runic dock]

😌

[graceful grove]

next arc IF Oda skips Vira

[wide star]

if she really had pink eyes she would’ve easily been top 1 best looking female back then lol

[glass plume]

i doubt that Vira even exists

it's probably gotten obiliterated by this point

[sage temple]

Young Linlin is lowk bad

I wonder if she wore contacts

[runic dock]

Look at those lips

[sage temple]

Pink eyes looks tuff

[runic dock]

😌

[sage temple]

Amen brother

[glass plume]

https://tenor.com/view/big-mom-charlotte-linlin-one-piece-anime-mmmmm-gif-19944941

[graceful grove]

all oda has to do is make Gaban reveal last glyph is in Vira.. BAM, Vira arc

[runic dock]

Wrong lips

[glass plume]

yeah sure, that could work

[runic dock]

No because Gaban isn’t burn scar

Google burn scars

[urban lodge]

Hahah

[runic dock]

I just gotta laugh atp

[glass plume]

honestly Gaban being the man marked by flames wouldn't be too bad

[runic dock]

It’s not about too bad for me , just doesn’t have a burn scar lol

[glass plume]

though, i wonder how he'd create those whirlpools

[blazing mantle]

Lowkey?

No need to downplay it

[glass plume]

i mean he does have a scar which pays a high ressemblance to a flame of sorts

[sage temple]

Estrid unfortunately moggs

[urban lodge]

Earl of Doflamingo

[blazing mantle]

Keep telling yourself that bud

[glass plume]

this thing

[runic dock]

He has a scar yes but it’s not a burn scar

[graceful grove]

he gotta dock somewhere. that can be Vira.. like that one island black pearl docks

[blazing mantle]

A scar

[runic dock]

Google burn scars

Google them

[glass plume]

does it need to be a burn scar specifically?

it could be a scar which is associated with a flame in someway

[runic dock]

That’s the official name

Burn scar man , no filler

[grand flower]

Big Mom is so fuckin dope

[grand flower]

look up harlequin babies

[sage temple]

I don't even have to say anything

[graceful grove]

have u seen his ass? could be there

[runic dock]

She looks like she had plastic surgery done to her eyebrows

Ngl

[glass plume]

yeah, i know it's the official name.
i just mean does it need to be something that is literally a burn scar and not something which could be associated with the same title

[runic dock]

Alright fair enough

[sage temple]

So she looks naturally perfect

[runic dock]

If he reveals his ass scar

I’ll bite

[narrow stratus]

Surely Gunko and Garling’s roles in GV are not over right??

[glass plume]

probably not

[sweet anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-funny-hood-just-let-it-go-bruh-its-over-gif-2300031300461303277

[runic dock]

That would misleading if it’s just a flame shaped scar , why not call him the flame shaped scar man?

[graceful grove]

he invites SHs to a bath and thats when we see it

[glass plume]

since that's a long ass nickname

[narrow stratus]

Cmooon

[leaden rivet]

Big mom clears so bad

[sweet anvil]

Garling can’t hang with wb idc

[leaden rivet]

Stop playing with her

[olive sun]

I'll laugh if Garlings glaze was cuz the WG credited him for half the incident like they did with Smoker in Alabasta

[runic dock]

Fr

No plastic surgery either

[glass plume]

Estrid needs to take lessons from Big Mom in how to be a mother

[narrow stratus]

All gunko did was kill slaves that’s literally so underwhelming

[civic matrix]

Can anyone see page five of the scan? It’s not loading for me

[grand flower]

Big Mom is tied with Devon as the sexiest woman in OP

[olive sun]

Gunkos lined up to have her own entire flashback

[runic dock]

Crazy as it sounds that would be an improvement lmao

[glass plume]

sorry... ehrm, DEVON?

[brittle basin]

nice blow up doll

[grand flower]

Yeah

[narrow stratus]

Yeah but I am greedy

[grand flower]

ruthless

[graceful grove]

if you tactically erase what she turns into, BM could be a top 5 OP girls tbh

[glass plume]

Devon is in the bottom tiers for me

[sweet anvil]

Offscreened by Bogard

[leaden rivet]

Looks alone she’s top 3

[narrow stratus]

True… Bogard also been mia

[ashen perch]

She's top 2 if you don't erase what she becomes too

[runic dock]

She already is , you gotta accept the fat

[glass plume]

Linlin should have stopped at 20 kids

[hard fulcrum]

We do learn that God Valley seems to be her first Human Hunting Contest, since someone from her family says that they finally have a chance now they have Gunko representing them.

[grand flower]

This should be disposition

[leaden rivet]

Honestly the only female character that looks better would be like Hancock

[ashen perch]

Gunko's gonna get plenty of focus yea, we might even see GV through again for a little bit when her flashback comes

[grand flower]

deposition is a testimony in court

[glass plume]

i also took note of that, lol

[narrow stratus]

Yeah it’s her first olympics and like apparently she was doing very well

[dense rapids]

Is bro cooking

[wicked cape]

Pov:br br patabim rocks mogs imu but imu shows her gyat power

[ashen perch]

Man does 100 chapters for Elbaf seem insufficient sometimes

[graceful grove]

Devons mom threw her out of 10 story building like Loki

[grand flower]

read this out loud and my neighbor's head exploded