also-manga

[ashen perch]

Is this blurry, hopefully its not

[weak wedge]

[tranquil blade]

It is

[sweet anvil]

Gunko got off screened by John

[ashen perch]

Not blurry

[sweet anvil]

Oda told me

[ashen perch]

Smh

[tranquil blade]

Nvm I lied

[maiden charm]

Ha, I'm absolved

[urban lodge]

The Ganzui victim?

[weak wedge]

So cool he got it from

[pine ridge]

surely punk hazard is part of dressrosa saga

[sweet anvil]

Yes

[tranquil blade]

Ganzui is strong tho (Ignore Gaban aura diffing him)

[sweet anvil]

Gunko is that low in the rankings

[hot cairn]

This is really stupid

[pulsar path]

Lol funny you sound like me reading one-piece monthly in shonen jump USA thinking when is shanks going to show up!

[hot cairn]

This one is better

[digital spear]

when did Gaban and Ganzui interact

[honest dove]

Holy Johnny

[ashen perch]

Yea that one confuses me, I like to ignore it because they've considered it part of Dressrosa on a separate occasion

[sweet anvil]

Some interaction over the treasure

[pulsar path]

English wa so behind

[hot cairn]

This one is actually how it should’ve been

[weak wedge]

You indian

[honest dove]

Chap 1163

[pulsar path]

????!?

[tranquil blade]

Give me a few

[honest dove]

Johnny's Treasure?

[sweet anvil]

I’m so glad I didn’t pick up one piece in 2017

[pulsar path]

One piece started in 2003 at the beginning lol

[sweet anvil]

Idk

[pulsar path]

For usa

[hot cairn]

you’re just 18, you’ll be fine

I turn 25 in 2 years LOL

[weak wedge]

Oh

[sweet anvil]

I don’t really care about how old I am just about how long it’ll be

[honest dove]

Didnt buggy chased it?

[hot cairn]

why

[pulsar path]

Smh we should require new members to give a few years to us older ones

[sweet anvil]

Wci into wano for 5 years is hell

[honest dove]

True

[digital spear]

It was alright

[sweet anvil]

Picking up one piece at the tail end of wano is probably the greatest time

[hot cairn]

more like 5 years of peak

[sweet anvil]

Post wano , egghead into elbaf in like less than 3 years

[digital spear]

I picked it up in the middle of WCI it was fine

[hot cairn]

I hope Oda takes all the time in the world to be honest

[sweet anvil]

Weekly would be horrible

[graceful belfry]

Whole Cake Island, my beloved

[sweet anvil]

Imagine waiting a whole week for a chapter just for it to be chopper and Luffy eating candy

[hot cairn]

how old are you illmatic

[sweet anvil]

I think I would lose my mind

[pulsar path]

I been weekly for at least 15 I think

[ashen perch]

It was better

[digital spear]

Wow I missed this

[honest dove]

I think Oda has the same tough

[hot cairn]

so true

[pulsar path]

Ancient I guess lol

[ornate tartan]

oda is very old for a mangaka

[hot cairn]

I caught up when Franky went over BM

at the beginning of the raid

[tranquil blade]

It's just like look at the way he's holding the axe and grinning, it's just kind of a bad look

[digital spear]

Thats not all that happened in WCI lol

[hot cairn]

perfect time to be caught up

[tranquil blade]

For Ganzui

[ashen perch]

Picking up OP after Wano is like, fuck I don't have an analogy but just know it's bad now

[olive sun]

Wonder how many other pre timeskip readers are still around

[hot cairn]

idk about that

I kinda wish I was weekly for WCI

[sweet anvil]

Yeah I’m saying in 1 chapter someone probably waited a whole week to see that

[hot cairn]

and early Wano

[sweet anvil]

No

[graceful belfry]

Bygone era

[sweet anvil]

I am so glad I caught up at roof piece 🙏

[hot cairn]

LOL wdym ancient

[hot cairn]

more like young

[digital spear]

Pretty sure they were fine because Slice of Piece is cool and we need it back

[weak wedge]

[digital spear]

But its over

[tranquil blade]

Illmatic is like 30 I think

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/kevin-hart-really-what-you-say-sideeye-wtf-gif-4842136059944732480

[graceful belfry]

50 ain’t a bad age for a mangaka. Oda just farked himself by leading an allegedly unhealthy lifestyle

[sweet anvil]

I like slice of life in certain settings like whole cake would feel like the wrong time

[royal orchid]

Kevin Hart is speaking to me

[hot cairn]

LOL

[weak wedge]

Op

[tranquil blade]

About the same age as the actual album illmatic

[graceful belfry]

[hot cairn]

you mean the series or the community

[sweet anvil]

One thing about growing up

I really don’t want to pay taxes 🙏

[honest dove]

Whatafool

[hot cairn]

TRUE

[pine ridge]

true

[hot cairn]

early Elbaph gave us that thankfully

[digital spear]

Wait this is the Big Mom intro chapter what are you talking about

[ashen perch]

Eh, being a mangaka is inherently about living a bad lifestyle in the industry unfortunately

[olive sun]

tfw older than this album

Bury me already

[ashen perch]

Peak

[graceful belfry]

Yeah, I mean on top of that lol

[tranquil blade]

I knew it was 1994 but I forgot the month

[weak wedge]

Cool

[ashen perch]

Community

[graceful belfry]

This shit is so peak

[sweet anvil]

I meant the chapter a bit further in when chopper and luffy just eat a bunch of sweets and get fat

Waiting a week for that

[weak wedge]

Yeh

[sweet anvil]

💔

[weak wedge]

❌

[digital spear]

Yes thats the same chapter

[ashen perch]

That's not even true lol, that was a single page

[hot cairn]

ahh then yes

you’re right

[olive sun]

The chocolate chapter is the same one that formally introduced Pudding

[sweet anvil]

I don’t actually remember what happened I just remember disliking early whole cake

[hot cairn]

I noticed the shift from Onigashima -> Egghead-> Elbaph

[weak wedge]

Yeh you are right

[ashen perch]

I believe shorter than Bonney, Chopper and Luffy trying out the Egghead food machines

[hot cairn]

it somehow gets worse and worse

[graceful belfry]

I would have loved to be a weekly reader for the chocolate chapter

[ashen perch]

I was one, it was fun

[sweet anvil]

I watched the anime for it so ig it was probably a bit stretched out

[olive sun]

Everyone was just excited about the three eye girl showing up again

She was a center of speculation for ages

[royal orchid]

luffy is above the clouds now

[weak wedge]

Yep

[hot cairn]

me too

[hot cairn]

ah nah the anime sucks

[weak wedge]

It's so long arc

[ashen perch]

Every new arc starts with a lot of excitement anyways, but it was fun to see BM in full and the girl with her from back in FMI now

[royal orchid]

he's not gonna hit the fighting stance anymore because he's a god

[hot cairn]

I had fun with it reading the manga

[sweet anvil]

Now that I think about it , it’s not fair for me to judge when is a good time to catch up considering I like binging everything

[digital spear]

also this moment is funny af why you hating

[olive sun]

People hated big mom so much for such a long time

Considered her a joke emperor

[hot cairn]

right, cause she was introduced in FMI right? Wild

[hot cairn]

what

[olive sun]

There were genuine theories that the kidd alliance would deal with her offscreen

[ashen perch]

Yea I'm right, Egghead thing was longer lol

[olive sun]

People had that little respect

[urban lodge]

The forest was kinda bad in the anime

[hot cairn]

I remember early Egghead how nobody knew which island was next

that was fun

[tranquil blade]

It was either cause she was fat or cause she was a woman from what I've seen

or both

[royal orchid]

make entire house with candy
make it allowed to eat it
person eats your entire house
grrr

[weak wedge]

I loved brooke in this scene and luffys meat

[ashen perch]

The anime was very bad for a long long time so I mean

[tranquil blade]

That's what people would say about her

[olive sun]

Both + old

[digital spear]

Oh thats why people are hating it

[urban lodge]

Yeah it's not surprising

Yeah

[fossil mortar]

egghead was really surprising

[ashen perch]

The forest was considered fun weekly, people didnt like how the Cracker fight ended though

[tranquil blade]

The forest was pretty bad in the anime I remember

[hot cairn]

BM probably wouldn’t have had any hate if she looked like her GV version LOL

[urban lodge]

Egghead is the most consistently good arc in the anime

[fossil mortar]

wasn't around for forest weekly

[weak wedge]

[digital spear]

People were saying the fight got skipped but I dont really get that

[tranquil blade]

Well 70% of the hate would be replaced with gooning

[ashen perch]

The offscreened hours + the ending feeling a little abrupt

[hot cairn]

I was expecting a Vegapunk arc but not one like that

[graceful belfry]

I highkey love cracker. Oda’s design work for the charlotte family was flawless

[royal orchid]

I'm not sure I would be here right now if I had to bear through dressrosa weekly anime or forest weekly

[digital spear]

I guess it was the first time a lot from a fight that big was offscreened

[ashen perch]

Yea I didn't mind it, it was fine

[hot cairn]

I remember people saying a Vegapunk arc was not “neccesary”

[ashen perch]

The offscreened hours again bothered people in Katakuri v Luffy lol

[tranquil blade]

Well technically it wasn't but

[ashen perch]

It was a silly thing to be mad about

[fossil mortar]

I didn't think there was going to be a Vega punk arc

[tranquil blade]

It's good it happened

[ashen perch]

Because obviously Oda wasn't gonna show 20 hours of it

[hot cairn]

how did it get skipped

[grand flower]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1342244244018040884/1348879623416709120/look_at_this_dude_garp.gif

[hot cairn]

true

[fossil mortar]

only around since end of wci

[digital spear]

The offscreened hours

[fossil mortar]

omg oda didn't show a minute by minute summary

[olive sun]

I still wanna know why Luffy called that form Tank Man Full Version if there was never another version

[ashen perch]

Yea, there's a skip at one point and we cut to Luffy being entirely stuffed

[tranquil blade]

Unstuffed tankman when

[digital spear]

He shouldve used it again

[hot cairn]

it’s good that it happened honestly

[tranquil blade]

He kinda did use it

[graceful belfry]

OG Tankman is too powerful

[tranquil blade]

but in gear 5 in Egghead

[graceful belfry]

It would break the multiverse

[ashen perch]

And he turns into tankman and beats Cracker's ass basically immediately

[weak wedge]

Yass

[tranquil blade]

Isn't that how he launched Mars

[hot cairn]

I remember when the announcement of the final saga happened people were scared but all I wanted was a Vegapunk arc and an Elbaph arc

[ashen perch]

Kinda

[hot cairn]

and look at us now

now I expect Lodestar

[fossil mortar]

yeah I liked egghead

[olive sun]

Problem with cracker fight wasn't that we didn't see the whole thing

Problem was that the solution to his abilities happened offscreen so it wasn't satisfying

[digital spear]

Wasnt it just his normal balloon attack (which is what tankman is based on anyway but in Gear 4 specifically)

[olive sun]

We just cut to Luffy having figured it out hours ago

Would have been way more interesting to watch that happen and Nami join before we cut to Sanji

[fossil mortar]

very luffy way to win a fight by eating

[tranquil blade]

Tbh there's like 5 chapters of Egghead I wasn't there for so my memory is a little foggy on how exactly the attack worked

[weak wedge]

[ashen perch]

Yeah true but I didn't mind it honestly, it wasn't exactly very significant

[digital spear]

It was worth it for the comedic effect

[hot cairn]

@digital spear I reckon we skip Elbaph

[fossil mortar]

it's just a rocks flashback anyways

[hot cairn]

Lodestar arc soon

[digital spear]

We gonna skip all that lad we goin straight to Laugh Tale

[olive sun]

Final saga announcement was totally a marketing stunt

[hot cairn]

there was a user that seriously said that we were going to Laughtale after Wano

[fossil mortar]

one panel of them finding the last poneglyph

[hot cairn]

I remember people panicking a lot

[timber glacier]

nah think we need an other lrll arc

[digital spear]

Bro hasnt heard of the last poneglyph

[graceful belfry]

The final saga is forever ♾️

[hot cairn]

I was trying to tell him that but he didn’t listen

[urban lodge]

I remember someone saying that but I don't remember who it was

[hot cairn]

people don’t just think that the final saga will be long

(fools)

[ashen perch]

It was clear when it coincided with the release of Film Red, they just wanted to ride along with its momentum

[hot cairn]

first it was “there won’t be a Vegapunk arc” then “there won’t be an Elbaph arc”

[digital spear]

The final saga will be around as long as Paradise or New World until Wano

[graceful belfry]

Valid

[hot cairn]

true

[graceful belfry]

I could see 500 chapters

[fossil mortar]

probably

[ashen perch]

Wano as an arc wasn't even over yet but Oda was basically forced to make that announcement lol

[blazing depot]

https://x.com/pookiepiece/status/1982051782323839329?s=46

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[olive sun]

This is overreaching it's only been a little over 100 so far

[hot cairn]

yeah why make it before Wano ended lol

[olive sun]

I'm expecting 300

[sage temple]

At least "there won't be an Ussop arc" came true

[graceful belfry]

400 more isn’t too unbelievable imo

[timber glacier]

plus Shanks at the end of wano was 100% a film red promo

[hot cairn]

we don’t know how many arc are left after Elbaph

there’s still lots to cover

[digital spear]

Peoples mistake is to interpret "saga" as something like say, Dressrosa saga

[graceful belfry]

I kinda don’t want it to end, though. So I do tend to go for the high ball

[ashen perch]

And its funny, because Oda somewhat ended up walking back on it by saying "I'm saying final this, final that, but its not ending that soon so don't worry" like a year later

[hot cairn]

same here

[timber glacier]

i think we have at least 2 arcs left

[sage temple]

Is the SBS this sunday

[hot cairn]

it just feels that Oda is taking his time you know

[ashen perch]

Like I said, I think they wanted to ride along with the momentum of Film Red

[timber glacier]

i think its next week

[fossil mortar]

bare minimum four

[graceful belfry]

Can’t wait for my quarterly dosage of butt and boob questions

[digital spear]

I think its definitely reaching 1300 at least

[hot cairn]

if it were any other author we would be in the final war right now

[graceful belfry]

Inject it into my veins Oda

[clever idol]

He will walk back on this too

[ashen perch]

The boost that Film Red provided to the manga sales, they wanted to take that even further by throwing in that Final Saga announcement

[hot cairn]

I wouldn’t be surprised if OP gets to the 1300’s

[sage temple]

Loki's chapter

[hot cairn]

LOL

[urban lodge]

I can't see it ending any earlier than 1350

[fossil mortar]

1500s maybe

[hot cairn]

it is final tho

[graceful belfry]

Eiichiro Oda. One Piece. Forever

[urban lodge]

And that's a low estimate

[hot cairn]

it’s an appropiate title

[ashen perch]

And the anime was on fire too, the series was firing on all cylinders and they wanted to keep making it go up. Its cooled down now

Because people have seen through their ruse

[graceful belfry]

Thank you

[ashen perch]

Its not actually ending that soon

[graceful belfry]

Someone with some sense

[digital spear]

Yeah its probably gonna reach 1350 maybe even 1400

[hot cairn]

1500’s is my guess too

[olive sun]

Future historians will divide Final Saga into an entire third Part of the series to coincide with Paradise and New World

[hot cairn]

genuinely think itll be like Paradise and New World in terms of length

[ashen perch]

Yea I'm thinking somewhere around that too

[urban lodge]

I think 1400s is more likely but I wouldn't be surprised if we got to the 1500s

[ashen perch]

I agree

[tranquil blade]

rwunit useginu I think 1420

[digital spear]

Thats what im saying

[hot cairn]

I think it’s valid to do that

[digital spear]

Its meant to be like that

[hot cairn]

agreed

[ashen perch]

The final saga is going to be the last third of the series

[graceful belfry]

Now we’re talking

[olive sun]

I think Oda genuinely wants to retire way sooner than that so I can't see it lasting more than two more arcs after Elbaf

Though the final will easily be as long as Wano if not longer

[pine ridge]

east blue, paradise, new world, final war no?

[ashen perch]

The thing is, Oda can try but he cannot limit himself really

[hot cairn]

you can divide the story like this

East Blue -> Prologue
Paradise —> Act 1
New World -> Act 2
Final Saga -> Act 3

[timber glacier]

final war is going to be the last battle/arc

[hot cairn]

or just put East Blue in the first act if you want

[pine ridge]

yeah but you know what I mean

[urban lodge]

He shouldn't limit himself, his creativity is what makes the series so good

[digital spear]

100 for East Blue, 500 for Paradise, 450 for New World until Wano and now we are only 100 chapters into the final saga so a lot more is possible

[olive sun]

Currently they do

[hot cairn]

Oda can’t stop himself really

[ashen perch]

Egghead to me felt like Oda limiting himself as much as he could and it still went 67 chapters

[hot cairn]

he hasnt in Egghead nor in Elbaph

[olive sun]

We divide the series into Paradise and New World but the formal terms from Shueisha are Sea of Survival: Super Rookies Saga and Final Sea: The New World

[hot cairn]

according to him, he created a way to skip Elbaph but he couldn’t go through with it

[hot cairn]

yep

[sage temple]

Wait.. the FINAL saga is going to be LAST?

[pine ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/akira-leave-me-alone-leave-me-alone-meme-gif-6420351794930725971

[digital spear]

[hot cairn]

yeah this is why I say we could get to the 1500’s

[sage temple]

[ashen perch]

Oda can try but the series is genuinely kind of out of his control lol, there is just so much that he has set up to resolve and so much that he could still come up with

[hot cairn]

yep

[tranquil blade]

Wait was it actually fucking 67 chapters long

No way

[pine ridge]

1560 even

[ashen perch]

It was 68

[hot cairn]

it’s 68

[hot cairn]

true

[tranquil blade]

NOOOOO

[dapper tree]

He could just do what people want and start killing people so doesn't have to resolve anything

[hot cairn]

you can tell with the first two arcs of the final saga

he’s trying but

he can’t control himself

[tranquil blade]

He might actually have to

[digital spear]

I had the same reaction earlier

We were so close

[ashen perch]

Yea, its clear that he's trying his hardest

[hot cairn]

that’s a valid option lol

[ashen perch]

Maybe to the detriment of the series sometimes, some might say...

[dapper tree]

We don't need to bring all these people back if dead

[ashen perch]

I am some actually, I say it sometimes

[hot cairn]

One Piece can’t be rushed even if Oda wanted

it is what it is

we’ll be here for long

[ashen perch]

One Piece would be incredible if Oda had eternal youth, maybe this is why Imu is the strongest

[ornate tartan]

oda doesn’t seem like the type to rush
he will take as much breaks as necessary

[grand flower]

That’s why Elbaph will be longer than Wano

[fossil mortar]

I doubt it but maybe

[dapper tree]

Naw

[grand flower]

Hella plot lines getting resolved here

[ashen perch]

Imu is what Oda aspires to be, minus the infinite genocides

[hot cairn]

he didn’t have to make the burn scar man, he could’ve made Elbaph have the final poneglyph and have a fight for it there

But he created the burn scar man LOL

and created the Holy Knights too

[lofty fern]

https://tenor.com/view/avengers-endgame-hawkeye-no-please-no-no-sad-gif-16886381

[ornate tartan]

the other series in the big 3 had mixed reception due to their rushed endings from the authors health

One Piece will be finished the way Oda intended i think he will take his time

[fossil mortar]

still no clue who that or mosa is

[hot cairn]

definitely another late addition to the story

[ashen perch]

I hope he slows down

[dapper tree]

Red herring

[fossil mortar]

same

[dapper tree]

Fodder

[tranquil blade]

If Elbaph crosses the 120 chapter mark I might cry

[hot cairn]

no

[grand flower]

We’re getting plenty of plot lines resolved in Elbaph because Elbaph backwards is Phable

[ashen perch]

Thats not

I don't think thats why

[hot cairn]

same

[ashen perch]

But I agree with the take

[hot cairn]

what

[tranquil blade]

Hpable

[digital spear]

Depends, maybe a lot of important shit that we thought would happen later happens in Elbaf

[ashen perch]

100 minimum, 150 max

[dapper tree]

A distraction

[digital spear]

(God Valley would be an example)

[ruby moat]

Anyone else get a sense of FOMO when they heard about the stuff that was stolen from the louvre like Dsmn is it rly that easy

[trim cobalt]

We don’t even know what happened to kid and law

[lofty fern]

phorever and ever....

[hot cairn]

I don’t understand, are you implying he doesn’t exist?

[fossil mortar]

I really did not think gods valley would happen now

[digital spear]

Time to start a Lupin arc

[hot cairn]

I don’t see how or why

[grand flower]

Phor sure

[dapper tree]

I'm saying he exists but doesn't matter to us

[trim cobalt]

Fr

[tranquil blade]

Yeah kinda and i dont even really know what you're referencing

[ashen perch]

YC is right, like I think Shanks v BB might just happen in this arc for example

[grand flower]

Zoro becoming WSS too

[ruby moat]

Some dudes stole a bunch of jewels n shit from the louvre

[stone terrace]

Yeah i didnt think heists like that could happen outside of movies

[digital spear]

Like with the God Valley flashback, we cant know how yet

[ruby moat]

It did tho

[ashen perch]

Well its a little early but I can see that in the next arc atleast, Hachinosu War...

[hot cairn]

why

[tranquil blade]

Oh yeah I'd like to do a heist at some point in my life

[dapper tree]

[dapper tree]

You sure do ask a lot of questions

[grand flower]

You heisted all of our hearts

[hot cairn]

wildin

[ashen perch]

I think people aren't ready for the cutaways, there's gonna be a lot going on in there

[lofty fern]

BB was born on Fullalead...time for Domi Reversi 😈

[hot cairn]

wildin too

[fast pagoda]

Imu reminds me of Palpatine

[digital spear]

He is

[ashen perch]

God Valley is happening now for the cutaways aside from Imu's involvement here

[hot cairn]

I don’t think that’s the same

[ashen perch]

Nah this is reasonable, give it some time

[grand flower]

Legends will be made here because Elbaph backwards is Phable

[tranquil blade]

I want Shanks to meet Luffy before Blackbeard hurts him

[lofty fern]

Nah, he's much cooler than old Palpy

[hot cairn]

why do you think that?

[pine ridge]

is that one of the rocks pirates or smth

[ashen perch]

You're gonna be shouting Shanks v BB soon in roughly 25 chapters

[digital spear]

Why not, its an example of a big thing we thought would happen later but happened during Elbaf

[dapper tree]

Cause you lack imagination

[fast pagoda]

True

[ashen perch]

It'll be in your nickname and all

[hot cairn]

check out what I’m listening

that’s me debating you

[tranquil blade]

Didn't even say WE, you said I, ME, I'm gonna be saying that?

Okay

[grand flower]

Me rn

[ashen perch]

Yea

[hot cairn]

me too

[dapper tree]

Elbaf flashback already too long. We need loki and luffy kicking ass

[grand flower]

I’m Kendrick in this scenario

[hot cairn]

nah it’s me

[grand flower]

No me

[dapper tree]

You both drake

[tranquil blade]

but we need like 10 more chapters of this flashback

[digital spear]

Why you so fat

[hot cairn]

nu uh

it’s me

[hot cairn]

fuck you

[dapper tree]

[ashen perch]

YC you can't just ask that

[tranquil blade]

You're rick ross?

[digital spear]

Why did he post of fat Luffy saying me rn then

[grand flower]

Just stuffed myself with cheese eggs with chicken in it

BUUUUURP

[digital spear]

[tranquil blade]

Alright man

[clever idol]

Uh what

[ashen perch]

Fatass

[clever idol]

Cheese eggs?

[ashen perch]

Sorry

[digital spear]

The hell is cheese eggs

[grand flower]

Yall don’t know about cheese eggs?

[tranquil blade]

We all died in 2020 and this is hell

[clever idol]

No

[graceful belfry]

I presume eggs with cheese on them

[grand flower]

It’s an omelette

[trim cobalt]

Cheese eggs with chicken?

[clever idol]

[grand flower]

I put the chicken in the skillet

[tranquil blade]

My dad made cheese eggs a lot

[grand flower]

Season it

Then whisked the eggs in a bowl

[tranquil blade]

I asked him to stop putting cheese in the eggs and he said no

[grand flower]

Pour it over the hot chicken

[frigid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-reaction-try-not-to-laugh-bruh-speed-gif-15909423665204532371

[grand flower]

Eggs cook

Sprinkle cheese on top and scramble

[hot cairn]

next arc👀

[grand flower]

Bam cheese eggs

[trim cobalt]

[tranquil blade]

He knows nothing

[grand flower]

Yaptain America

[tranquil blade]

Top tier liar

[digital spear]

What if Loki is a clickbait youtuber

[graceful belfry]

Lmao

[grand flower]

He 100% is

[trim cobalt]

With the ncs intro/outro

[urban lodge]

He's already a YouTube commenter

[brittle flicker]

I wish I was dead

[frigid gulch]

Loki getting rage baited

[tranquil blade]

Well that sucks man

[digital spear]

LOOOL

[pine ridge]

PRANK GONE WRONG?!?!?! (RIP DAD)

[frigid gulch]

The signs of Rocks glaze

[tranquil blade]

Every 14 year old on tumblr ever:

[trim cobalt]

[tranquil blade]

I wish I was born 20 years earlier specifically so I would be less poor as an adult

We are not the same

[brittle flicker]

So you’re a 14 year old on Tumblr?

By your statement

[digital spear]

I wish I was born later

[tranquil blade]

No it's a different

[brittle flicker]

I wish I wasn’t born

[hot cairn]

he knows

[digital spear]

Oh...

[frigid gulch]

What if we get a flashback of Rocks life

[stone terrace]

Loki ahh comment

Kuma ahh comment

[tranquil blade]

They wanna be born 20 years earlier because of the pop culture of the time, I want to because I dont wanna be poor it's a little different

[graceful belfry]

Flashback to when Xebec’s parents met

[brittle flicker]

False

[brittle flicker]

He literally said pretty much the exact opposite

[brittle flicker]

Him too really

[clever idol]

U get it

[brittle flicker]

He wanted to be born earlier

[hard brook]

Chat giving womp womp

[hot cairn]

first rocks glaze

[frigid gulch]

Knowing Oda, hed make Rocks OP from birth

[digital spear]

I think if those people were born earlier they would just look at even older Pop culture and wish they were born even earlier

[frigid gulch]

[hot cairn]

Baby Loki vs Baby Rocks, who wins?

[fossil mortar]

Some loki type shit

[digital spear]

As a baby he carried an entire island

[urban lodge]

How many bears can baby Rocks kill?

[frigid gulch]

Tough one

[fossil mortar]

every bear

[digital spear]

He exintguished an entire species of bears

[trim cobalt]

12

[ashen perch]

Chat, What if Loki is making up his backstory including God Valley to guilt trip Hajrudin into freeing him

[stone terrace]

Oden killed a bear too

[tranquil blade]

He probably was because his first bounty, or most likely one of his first bounties he killed a literal admiral

[tranquil blade]

He could be

[stone terrace]

Name one bear in this series that won a fight without drugs

[hot cairn]

that idea died with rocks

[ashen perch]

He really could be

[frigid gulch]

First bounty yep

[digital spear]

Wait which bear won with drugs

[hot cairn]

Bepo

[digital spear]

Oh Bepo

[ashen perch]

It'd not be the first time, Law did it already

[tranquil blade]

but did Bepo actually win

I guess

Uhhhh

Does Kuma count

[brittle flicker]

Same as with Law, at this point it’s not the character telling it, it’s just the narrator

[trim cobalt]

He ran away

[ashen perch]

But really like it'd be so funny if Oda just reveals that Loki has literally been lying all along

[fossil mortar]

lame shit

[hot cairn]

that was a good chapter

Law getting shit on

@olive sigil

[tranquil blade]

There's like 4 bears in the entire series and 3 of those bears were hypetools

[sage temple]

Master trickster

[brittle flicker]

All Loki really would have said was when he went with Jarul to the castle

[tranquil blade]

Wait there's 5 bears cause of that one in Drum Island

[pine ridge]

bisoromi bear

[digital spear]

I think the bear that young Linlin killed won against another animal thats why she killed it

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-seabear-sea-bear-point-anger-gif-8799526520279082966

[eternal viper]

Let’s see Bepo, hiking bear, Zepo, and Kuma kind of. Who else?

[ashen perch]

It is just weird for Loki to be so honest and decent, he should be tricking people

[tranquil blade]

Who tf is Zepo

[ashen perch]

If he made up his backstory, I'd like him more

[tranquil blade]

Who is that

[eternal viper]

Bepo’s dead brother

[digital spear]

Bepo brother

[sage temple]

Also Observation Haki upscale if Loki conceals his real intent from Luffy

[graceful belfry]

Bepo’s older bro

[ocean totem]

I think he was

[tranquil blade]

Oh

[hard brook]

Oh yeah zepo

[ocean totem]

Everything before all this was the trick imo

[ashen perch]

True

[tranquil blade]

This guy exists?

What the hell

[hot cairn]

even the shanks stuff?

[urban lodge]

I will never forgive Oda for not letting Bepo participate in the Big Mom fight to avenge his brother

[eternal viper]

He was in a flashback, as one of big mom’s victims

[ocean totem]

Nah, I mean the whole him being a menace bit

[digital spear]

Youre not ready for their legendary father Nepo (being his sons makes them Nepo babies)

[frigid gulch]

Nepo Piece

[fossil mortar]

[ocean totem]

The him being evil part was probably the trick, him just leaning into the character everyone else built for him

[frigid gulch]

[tranquil blade]

Wait they should actually add that

[ashen perch]

I guess that's a good way to look at it too, its an inversion of the trope we'd expect from him

Instead of pretending to be good, he was pretending to be this menace yeah

[digital spear]

They could but the dad would need to be really strong

[formal wagon]

if we're all being honest lucci is our hero

[fossil mortar]

what mailbox

[graceful belfry]

[sage temple]

We're so close to Loki's df

[formal wagon]

whats up?

[sage temple]

Js unlock the chain abeg

[tranquil blade]

Nepo would go viral

[fossil mortar]

lucci is mid

[digital spear]

Ill be so happy when Loki is free from that damn tree

[frigid gulch]

Loki lied about having one

[formal wagon]

umm well nope 🙂‍↔️

[digital spear]

I think ill be happier than Socrates

[fossil mortar]

wow

[sage temple]

False

[hot cairn]

and so far away

flashback aint close to ending

[sage temple]

I have fireworks on hold for whenever Loki gets freed

[hot cairn]

me too man

[urban lodge]

20 chapters until his fruit reveal

[sage temple]

I don't even mind it ngl the flashback is focused around Loki

[hot cairn]

almost 40 chapters of anticipation

[sage temple]

My parallel sheet is almost complete

[hot cairn]

The chapter that Loki gets freed will be monumental

[brittle basin]

no stealing my new emoji I discovered today!

[digital spear]

I also have fireworks ready to burn down the tree with them so that it never happens again

[frigid gulch]

Lola slaps Loki

[sage temple]

I genuinely hope Elbaph gets burned down

[frigid gulch]

Parallel to Ida

[sage temple]

Loki clashes with Shanks

Parallel to Rocks

[frigid gulch]

Waffle

Mine is legit

[fossil mortar]

such a goofy face

[sage temple]

Cap

[lofty fern]

Except this time Shanks wins

[pine ridge]

is that ai slop in bottom left?

[digital spear]

Tritoma doesnt look like female Croc

[sage temple]

Once Loki and Shanks clash my agenda will be at an all-time high

No matter if Loki loses

[tranquil blade]

Yeah

[frigid gulch]

Well I do hope it isn’t low diff but

[digital spear]

NOOOOOOOOOO THEY STOLE MY THEORY

[frigid gulch]

[digital spear]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO

God dammit

[eternal viper]

Shanks upscale as well 😹

[fossil mortar]

lol

[formal wagon]

i'm deeply apologetic for the harm i've done to you in my usage of horizontal shaking head emoji. I'm not gonna make any excuses, but i hope one day you will forgive me

[eternal viper]

Truly beautiful

[sage temple]

Kinda yeah

[hot cairn]

favorite chapter of Elbaph so far?

[tranquil blade]

Shanks upscale will only end when he fights Blackbeard and finally loses for the 2nd time in his entire life

[brittle basin]

🙂‍↕️

[unique gate]

Shanks dies

[fossil mortar]

what was the first

[pine ridge]

the next one

[tranquil blade]

Blackbeard

[eternal viper]

Idk why but I feel like Loki is going to be stronger than Harald

[tranquil blade]

That's how he got his scar

[frigid gulch]

It’s only upscale if Loki is somehow stronger than Rocks

[eternal viper]

He seems more stacked

[fossil mortar]

oh gotcha

[unique gate]

Holy unemployment

[hot cairn]

son surpasses the father

[sage temple]

1131 and 1141

[eternal viper]

If you believe that Harald was relative to Rocks than maybe

[lofty fern]

It's so funny thinking back to how this whole flashback started. When this gets animated, we're going to be on Loki's birth and people will just want to hurry up to god valley already

[sage temple]

That's natural

[frigid gulch]

Well he was

[eternal viper]

Yeah, ts beautiful

[fossil mortar]

loki being stronger than luffy means he wouldn't be on the crew

[tranquil blade]

People will be yelling at newborn Loki and whining about it not being a Rocks episode

[fossil mortar]

I'm fine with that

[hot cairn]

Harald was relative to rocks

[lofty fern]

Maybe, someday. I don't think we've see anyone yet at Harald and Rocks level in modern day

[hot cairn]

LOL

[vital heart]

heyguys

[brittle basin]

Harald wasn't at GV.

[vital heart]

hey hey hey guys

[sage temple]

Loki being a rival to Luffy means he might ally and travel with Luffy for the next few arcs

[vital heart]

aloha!

[digital spear]

Oda hack

[vital heart]

PSYDUCK

PSYYYY DUCK

[frigid gulch]

You wouldn’t for a second get me to believe Loki killed Harald straight up

[sage temple]

I wish Harald was at GV

[frigid gulch]

So

[hot cairn]

sup Meek

[stone terrace]

Alola

[frigid gulch]

[sage temple]

It's so unfair

[fossil mortar]

if loki fought kaido and won in any way he'd for sure have a higher bounty than luffy right now

[tranquil blade]

Meek are you okay

[sage temple]

We might see it this fb

[urban lodge]

1149

[frigid gulch]

We will fs

[hot cairn]

goated chapter

[fossil mortar]

oda is a hack

[frigid gulch]

It might end with it

[digital spear]

Harald being at God Valley would tie it together with Loki better

[sage temple]

I mean people rn are saying Loki vs Shanks was a battle for the Yonko title

[hot cairn]

no 1130?

[tranquil blade]

There is still time for Harald to show up

[eternal viper]

Idk I think Shanks is stronger than Roger

[fossil mortar]

dang interesting

[tranquil blade]

[lofty fern]

So far, the only way out of DR, is death 🪦

[vital heart]

Mihawk is known as the "World's Strongest Swordsman"

Imu is known as the World

Mihawk is Imu's Strongest Swordsman

Mihawk is a secret WG ally. The right hand of Imu. The next puppet of Imu.

Therefore -> One day - Luffy will become the world.

When Luffy is the World,

Zoro will be Luffy's Strongest Swordsman.

[hot cairn]

copium

(I think the same)

[sage temple]

I feel like 1130 is kinda part of 1131 but between 1131 and 1130 I'd pick 1130 true

[formal wagon]

Mihawk is known as mihawk
imu is known as mu
muhawk
i rest my casse

pin this

[hot cairn]

done

[lofty fern]

I'd say equal too or a little higher, and I think Rocks and Harald are actually higher than Roger

[urban lodge]

It was made even better because it was when I went spoiler free, couldn't have asked for a better first chapter

[brittle basin]

every rocks feat is a mihawk upscale

[hot cairn]

damn that was fate

[digital spear]

I just hope Imu doesnt domi reverse Mihawk

[sage temple]

All I want this fb is for some more parallels

[pine ridge]

hawkeyes realize real lies

[hot cairn]

sounds like something Oda would do

[tranquil blade]

He can domi reverse Mihawk's clone tho

[eternal viper]

I’d agree, but I could see Roger being stronger since not only was he able to achieve his dream, but has the best haki according to Kaido, or is at least the embodiment to him

[fossil mortar]

imu is going to

[lofty fern]

https://tenor.com/view/emperors-new-groove-kronk-what-does-that-have-to-do-with-anything-hes-got-a-point-does-not-make-sense-gif-5057256

[sage temple]

Interesting take

If Loki and Shanks is a high diff match wouldn't that put Loki > Roger

[fossil mortar]

he might be

[pine ridge]

no?

[stone terrace]

Something something mid gen is trash

[fossil mortar]

Roger strength is probably going to stay unknown

[eternal viper]

Idk if it was a high diff fight as well, we still don’t know the details, since it seems like Shanks is stronger than he was before he was a yonko

[sage temple]

This is assuming Shanks is stronger than Roger

[lofty fern]

I don't trust Kaido's ideas on anything. And I think if Roger was faced with the same circumstances as Rocks he wouldn't have gotten to his dream either, so I think that's more of a fate thing than a strength thing.

[sage temple]

Loki fought Shanks the same year Shanks became a Yonko

[ashen perch]

Your first ever cook

But actually I said it first

[pine ridge]

I know

[tranquil blade]

I mean if Shanks surpassed Roger then at least Kaido probably also surpassed Roger

[lofty fern]

Less high diff, more like slightly above Shanks vs Kid level

[sage temple]

Then how is it not valid

[tranquil blade]

and maybe some other characters

[eternal viper]

That’s valid, I think as of right now it makes sense for Rocks to be the strongest old gen. Harald being second I’m not too set on though, I think Whitebeard, garp or Roger would have a similar fight with rocks that he did

[sage temple]

I guess hpq

[digital spear]

I think Shanks surpassed Kaido

[fossil mortar]

Bold take

[eternal viper]

It’d be weird if he didn’t

[leaden rivet]

I think shanks being stronger than kaido just kind of takes away from Kaido’s character

[ashen perch]

Mihawk is the Helmeppo to Imu's Morgan, the final OP fight is Zoro and Luffy v Mihawk and Imu, calling back to the first real fight in the series @vital heart

[sage temple]

Ngl I'm starting to believe Imu never went by "the world" and it was more of an on the spot nickname for the situation Rocks was in

😭

I feel like it's being taken too literally

[ornate tartan]

what do u think the real helmeppo is gonna do in the final war💀

[fossil mortar]

nothing

[eternal viper]

Kaido was looking for Joyboy or trying to prove himself to be Joyboy, I don’t think shanks fits into that

[ornate tartan]

sword is so sorry

[ornate tartan]

they need new members

[eternal viper]

Unless you mean him not being able to die

[fossil mortar]

they do

[digital spear]

Law

[sage temple]

I hope so bad for Loki v Shanks to be a high diff match. All this glazing would go to Loki

[fossil mortar]

xdrake being leader is a joke

[lofty fern]

I don't know why but this flashback makes Kaido look dumber or more naive than before.

[leaden rivet]

Mhm. Kaido’s entire thing was that he was the strongest and undefeatable unless by joy boy

[digital spear]

Same

[leaden rivet]

So shanks just being stronger idk seems unnecessary

[sage temple]

I also just wanna see Shanks struggle

[pine ridge]

shanks being stronger than roger and shanks beating loki (aka being stronger than loki) doesnt say anything about who's stronger loki or roger

[frigid gulch]

I mean he did face Shanks

[fossil mortar]

shanks off screened loki

[hot cairn]

it is

[frigid gulch]

He doesn’t think Shanks can beat him supposedly

[sage temple]

It is what

[frigid gulch]

But he knows Joyboy would

[lofty fern]

Shanks will struggle with his dad

[ornate tartan]

kaido lost plenty of times before joyboy

[hot cairn]

let Oda cook

[leaden rivet]

He technically doesn’t think Imu can either

[ornate tartan]

just because he says something doesn’t make it true

[fossil mortar]

oda is a hack

[sage temple]

Yes but in the event Shanks extreme diffed Loki and won by absolute chance, would this make Loki above Roger?

[frigid gulch]

I mean idk

[sage temple]

Loki hasn't ever said Imu before wdym

[hot cairn]

it is being taken to literally

[leaden rivet]

Shanks fought Loki what like 6 years ago, he’s probably different

[frigid gulch]

These guys don’t technically know about him I think

[pine ridge]

no? shanks could extreme extreme diff roger

[fossil mortar]

kaido really took so many ls

[vital heart]

100% agreed.

[leaden rivet]

Was talking about Kaido

[vital heart]

Arsal you are genius.

You are a genius*

[ashen perch]

Thank you

[leaden rivet]

Was talking about Kaido

[frigid gulch]

“ as a pirate”

He’s been a pirate for decades

[sage temple]

Oh I thought King was talking about Loki

[frigid gulch]

That doesn’t say anything for the distribution of the losses

[sage temple]

Oh alr

[frigid gulch]

Yea that’s what I mean

[sage temple]

Watch Imu never be called the world again

Lmao

[leaden rivet]

I thought king was talking about Kaido

[ashen perch]

I think Kaido had his losses before he got to his current strength for sure lol

[fossil mortar]

yeah it's just a comment by rocks

[leaden rivet]

Kaido knows Imu exists and insists there’s no one in this world who may defeat him.

[ashen perch]

I doubt that

[leaden rivet]

So Kaido>Imu

[ornate tartan]

Kaido can’t even beat Big Mom without going extreme diff

[leaden rivet]

Big mom? Be so fr

[ornate tartan]

Big Mom power is downplayed

[tranquil blade]

Well Kaido is bullshitting on Imu

[leaden rivet]

By oda

[pine ridge]

cause it would take "the world" to beat him

[tranquil blade]

I mean they're not wrong

[fossil mortar]

kaido had amnesia

[pine ridge]

kaido is also a notorious liar

[ashen perch]

well Kaido is right, listen to what Rocks said

[leaden rivet]

I disagree

I think they are

[fossil mortar]

probably took too many knocks to the head

[sage temple]

How?

[ornate tartan]

I promise u Kaido isn’t beating Linlin unless it’s high/extreme diff

[tranquil blade]

Kaido couldnt beat her in a 3 day death match so really idk

[frigid gulch]

I guess he doesn’t think Imu can beat him

[sage temple]

They didn't even fight

[frigid gulch]

[fossil mortar]

they did what

[leaden rivet]

It wasn’t really a serious fight

[frigid gulch]

Or he doesn’t consider it the same

[proud pivot]

so wb was imus strongest man and kaido was imus strongest creature, did they both have secret ties to wg?

[frigid gulch]

Cause of hax or something

[leaden rivet]

If Kaido was giving it all it’s not extreme difficulty

[sage temple]

It was a very satire like fight

[ashen perch]

"this world is not yours", because Imu is not from this world. Kaido is saying that no one in THIS world can beat him, not EVERY world.

[tranquil blade]

Big Mom was also nerfed because she didn’t have Zeus btw

[wet condor]

It is going extreme Illya

[tranquil blade]

Soooooo

[wet condor]

Oda is not writing Big Mom getting washed

[proud pivot]

kaido high diffs big mom

[digital spear]

Joy Boy also needed to come to free Wano from him so maybe Shanks was strong enough but not the right person because he was playing the waiting game. Or just wasnt the one who happened to beat him. The group of people he saw as a ceiling probably were Joy Boy candidates. Roger WB and Rocks probably were stronger than Kaido, and he felt like Oden was cheated out of it. From his POV he doesnt really know if Oden would have beaten him or not if not for Higurashi. So Shanks was the only one with the potential who was still alive, until Luffy came

[fossil mortar]

imu not from this world huh

[leaden rivet]

High, no more.

[grand flower]

That’s the prerequisite for high diff tbh

[wet condor]

If they don't both die, Kaido is losing some limbs or something

[leaden rivet]

Well yeah I’m not saying he’ll mid diff her

[vital heart]

Nope. Where did I mention them,?

[eternal viper]

Big mom has nothing in her bag as strong as blazing dragon

[ashen perch]

He's the devil from the underworld

[leaden rivet]

Idk I think you’re giving her too much credit

[fossil mortar]

interesting

[grand flower]

I should rephrase, if you’re going max all out and the fight keeps going, that’s pretty much extreme diff

[sage temple]

I think he just said that because Imu said this world as if he owned it

[fossil mortar]

imu being from the abyss would be fitting

[leaden rivet]

She doesn’t use advanced haki and she just has her unimpressive devil fruit attacks

[ornate tartan]

she didn’t have all of her strongest homies in wano

[leaden rivet]

Nothing she has is as impressive as Kaido’s most powerful attacks

[tranquil blade]

Oda did everything he could to compare Big Mom to Kaido and this still happens 💔

[ashen perch]

There's a double meaning here if you dig deep

[eternal viper]

All she has is crazy durability, which Kaido has

[sage temple]

!patterns

[tropic nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/486983010025996299/728691851556552744/unknown.png

[proud pivot]

you mentioned imu being the world and using that to guess mihawk has ties with the wg then what does the world mean in wb and kaidos title

[leaden rivet]

High diff is valiant

Ir won’t be easy

Kaido will struggle

[vital heart]

nothing

[tranquil blade]

It’s extreme diff

[leaden rivet]

But he’s not losing limbs or anything

[ashen perch]

I genuinely think this is how Oda will take Imu out of consideration of all the "world's X" titles, by making him from another world

[eternal viper]

I think Big mom and Kaido are written to be relative, but she just seems super unimpressive

[ornate tartan]

Linlin split skies with Kaido right?

[proud pivot]

so its only like that for mihawk?

[tranquil blade]

Yes

[fossil mortar]

inb4 oda just didn't want to reveal imu

[digital spear]

I think Oda just struggles with it

[wet condor]

I can't lie that 1000 Leagues of Misery, I think that's her ultimate attack name, is not as impressive looking as Blazing Bagua. Regardless of my perception of that attack, there is enough in terms of portrayal that we can say with certainty she's going extreme diff with him

[tranquil blade]

They basically described Big Mom as a 2nd Kaido in the arc

[ashen perch]

Oda was quite clear with it, I think people just get silly about it

[leaden rivet]

She’s consistently portrayed and shown to be below him

[eternal viper]

Yeah, he wrote her poorly. But powerscaling wise he doesn’t care about it

[tranquil blade]

Big Mom’s feats would be better if it wasn’t for the fact she wasn mt the main antagonist of the arc

[sage temple]

The mural and every sign from the past of Imu being on earth doesn't really scream Imu is an alien

[leaden rivet]

You’re acting like I’m saying he washes her

[ornate tartan]

Big Mom is naturally a monster

[digital spear]

^

[ashen perch]

Doesn't have to be an alien, could be the devil from the underworld

[ornate tartan]

she low diffed a giant at 5 years old

[tranquil blade]

Well idk Illya it’s smth about the way you talk about her

[eternal viper]

Same with Kaido

[pine ridge]

imagine the hype if all the worlds strongest titles were the worlds second strongest. the theories about who tf is number 1 would've been crazy. missed opportunity

[vital heart]

yes

[leaden rivet]

Big mom is strong…from a certain point of view. But she’s very unimpressive as far as yonko go. So she will take him to high diff because she has such good durability and endurance.

[fossil mortar]

for sure

[ashen perch]

I really don't think feats matter

[leaden rivet]

But her attacks aren’t on par, Kaido has all 3 advanced levels of haki (that’s actually used when it matters) and Big mom has her unimpressive abilities

[proud pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[pine ridge]

but zoro is the king of hell

[eternal viper]

If it’s in character she’d lose faster because of her lack of food

[leaden rivet]

What way am I talking about her

[digital spear]

So youre just not impressed

[ashen perch]

He's just an edgy man

[leaden rivet]

By big mom? Yeah

[fossil mortar]

zoro is an edge lord

[ashen perch]

Don't listen to him, he just wants to sound cool

[forest jacinth]

[pine ridge]

but more importantly it would add one more person that imu couldnt catch

[ashen perch]

This isn't ridiculous though, like yes Imu could be using an unparalleled Devil Fruit

[leaden rivet]

They do

[ashen perch]

But I think he could be the devil itself

[leaden rivet]

Big mom is demonstrably less impressive in combat

And it’s rather consistent

[sage temple]

I feel like the Imu looking giants next to thriller bark tells us people like Imu are definitely from here

[pine ridge]

I dont think imu is the devil but he wields the power of the devil (the magic book)

[sage temple]

If he wasn't I think the giants wouldn't have been there at all

[fossil mortar]

both possible

[ornate tartan]

Big Mom completely outhaxes kaido
ur forgetting she can multiply her strength with her Soul fruit if it comes down to it

[sage temple]

Also I feel like there just isn't a single devil

[ashen perch]

They've been equals when they've fought and really I'll take Oda's word on it than his flawed depiction of feats in a fight that severely limited her

[ashen perch]

Ehh

[eternal viper]

But he out aps her significantly

She’d get destroyed by blazing dragon Kaido

[fossil mortar]

bm has insane ap

[leaden rivet]

They’ve only fought rather unseriously

[eternal viper]

Worst Yonko ap tbh, obv not including Buggy

[fossil mortar]

ofc there's something called dodging lol

[ashen perch]

I don't think those Florian triangle monsters are the same thing as Imu really, gotta be something else

[digital spear]

Its elemental so she could turn it homie

[leaden rivet]

Why do you think so?

I’ve always seen her having the worst

[ashen perch]

It was called a death battle lol

[leaden rivet]

Kaido didn’t consider the fight her going toe to toe with him.

[urban lodge]

She hasn't really shown anything on the level of flame bagua or bajrang gun

[leaden rivet]

She hasn’t shown anything on the level of ragnarok or death destroyer

[eternal viper]

That’s he a weird interaction, but considering Haki interaction with Fruit powers, she might not be able to use it on Kaido

[stone terrace]

1000 😂 leagues 😂 of 😂 misery 😂

[ashen perch]

Kaido himself called it a fight to the death earlier too, he was just thinking of Luffy as someone new who could do that

[urban lodge]

Damn you Oda, misery was cool

What a waste

[ashen perch]

Not that he literally hasn't fought anyone in a long time who could go toe to toe with him, that'd be silly

[leaden rivet]

That’s not how that English works in that sentence

This is a reach

[digital spear]

Idk if Kaido coated it all with Haki

[ashen perch]

He fought Shanks just 2 years ago if you want to underestimate BM so badly

[leaden rivet]

Im not underestimating her

[eternal viper]

Shanks is def stronger than Big Mom

[leaden rivet]

And he hardly even fought shanks if that could be called a fight. It was considered a skirmish at best.

[eternal viper]

Also they didn’t fight from what we know

[ashen perch]

He's thinking of Luffy as a new one capable of going toe to toe with him, that's it really

[digital spear]

Are we talking about the ceiling panel

[ashen perch]

You can't deny the words that were said in 955 lol, it was a death battle

[leaden rivet]

That’s not what he says

[ornate tartan]

Gol D Roger had a 5.6 Billion berry bounty 24 years ago god damn

if u count bounty inflation this would be way higher in the current timeline

[leaden rivet]

You’re denying something right now aren’t you?

[ashen perch]

1037 I think

[fossil mortar]

Roger was him

[tranquil blade]

Kaido says only a few people are able to fight him

[fossil mortar]

just no clue to what level

[ashen perch]

Nah, because this goes hand in hand with something that was established already

[leaden rivet]

Yes he does say that

[digital spear]

Wait did he something like no one had fought him that serious in a long time

[leaden rivet]

I mean you’re quite literally putting words in Kaido’s mouth to make your interpretation make sense

[leaden rivet]

He said he wondered how long it’s been since someone went toe to toe with him

[ashen perch]

I'm making sense of it with what was said already

[leaden rivet]

In a fight

You can read it as it’s said, or you can include your interpretation of something not said.

[ashen perch]

You can't pick and choose, you have to ignore 955 to accept that interpretation of 1037

[slender estuary]

shanks > kaido

[fossil mortar]

nah

[graceful belfry]

Okay, but consider this. Kaido is a fish

[leaden rivet]

Pick and choosing is what you’re doing no?

[slender estuary]

why

[stone terrace]

Gonna watch the lord of the rings extended edition lets see if this over when i come back

[graceful belfry]

Lolol

[leaden rivet]

I would never argue with someone for more than an hour (anymore)

That would be silly

[fossil mortar]

it would be lame if kaido was weaker than anyone other than imu

[ashen perch]

TWICE its called a death battle

[graceful belfry]

Factuals

Koido is my strongest king

[ashen perch]

There's zero, absolutely zero reason to believe that this wasn't a serious fight

[digital spear]

why

[slender estuary]

?? how

[leaden rivet]

Except for Kaido practically saying it

[hard brook]

Correct me if I was wrong but didn’t Kaido almost lose to oden

[slender estuary]

he did almost lose to oden

[leaden rivet]

Except for the fact that we see none of them in their final forms

[ornate tartan]

she got them domi reversi eyes😭

[fossil mortar]

he was set up to be this big strong monster and that's his main stick. if kaido is weaker than shanks it'd be pointless

[ashen perch]

That bubble there is being said by him too

[digital spear]

He might have still won but he will never know for sure

[leaden rivet]

Yes both things Kaido said, one much later than the other.

[ashen perch]

Why does that matter

[ornate tartan]

who do yall think is stronger or the better fighter between the 2 of Kidd and Law?

[slender estuary]

other way around he could be amongst the top 5 but doesnt necessarily take from him being super strong

[leaden rivet]

This is already going circular. So I don’t think it’ll get further than this

[digital spear]

I never noticed it until now but Napoleon got more spikes here

[fossil mortar]

I suppose

[slender estuary]

i think kaido has better durability so its easier for him to take on multiple ppl but shanks

prob a 1 tap typa dude

where he fights 1 dude and wins but wouldn't win if he got jumped

[fossil mortar]

I could see that

[slender estuary]

lowkey shanks > imu

[digital spear]

maybe Kid stronger and Law better fighter 🤔

[fossil mortar]

okay wow

[slender estuary]

idk i think shanks would destroy them all combined even imu

[fossil mortar]

I could see that

[tranquil blade]

Law arguably has the better abilities

[slender estuary]

i like that from you

[tranquil blade]

Kidd looks physically stronger

[hard brook]

Shanks ain’t doing shi 😭😭

[leaden rivet]

Law is probably stronger and the better fighter

[slender estuary]

shanks easily 1 tapping imu lets be real

[tranquil blade]

Okay

[leaden rivet]

I think kid has been less impressive thus far

[tranquil blade]

Ok'

[digital spear]

Ok

[slender estuary]

oK

[leaden rivet]

Why are you okaying me

[sage temple]

All that just for him to ext diff Loki