also-manga

[sweet anvil]

First character to have negative battle iq

[steel stirrup]

I love it

[brittle basin]

teamwork makes the dream work. Goda......

[trim lily]

duality of man

[wet condor]

But he's not exactly wrong either. Haki probably won't be the only thing that's necessary to beat Imu but it'll be pretty important

[tranquil blade]

but IF it's both fruits NEEDED to beat Imu

[lofty fern]

BB is not his father, I don't think it would work well for a team up

[tranquil blade]

Then they have to work together

[wet condor]

I don't know if he said anything about Imu having a power other than a devil fruit though

[prisma idol]

I heavily dislike the 2 v 1 idea for Imu

[sage temple]

1167 leaks

[steel stirrup]

The enemy of my enemy

[trim lily]

luffy can swing blackbeard around like a hammer

[brittle basin]

the first fruit is the yami. but the second fruit has to be something other than the gura.

[late swan]

We need 10 more rocks chapters who agrees👀

[steel stirrup]

I love it

[grand flower]

I'm telling yall, Shanks' arm not growing back after that sea king bit it off is telling us something

[sage temple]

We need 10 more Loki chapters ngl

[steel stirrup]

I dont think it'll happen but I won't be mad if it does

[sage temple]

I wanna see him at sea

[lofty fern]

Maybe, maybe not. Even Joyboy's strongest haki, could only disrupt Imu's power, much less do any lasting damage

[prisma yacht]

Me

[urban lodge]

Team up sucks but it's probably gonna happen unfortunately

[prisma idol]

Do let it be known im not even close to being a bb fan

[late swan]

Rocks chapters is lokis chapter

[sweet anvil]

We need 10 more dragon chapters who agrees 🙏

[steel stirrup]

No shit

I see no issue

[lofty fern]

You're assuming he has regen. He may have never gotten that power

[ornate tartan]

the guy who turned in his brother Ace to the WG and currently has his grandfather chained up, and is one of 2 characters Luffy has been 100% antagonistic too and not shown 1 smidge of playing around with

OP fans: Luffy will team up with BB

Luffy has too much pride to ever do this

[wraith mantle]

i am just curious how WB leaves god valley

[prisma idol]

I would much rather a father son team up with dragon than with the rat BB

[urban lodge]

It's like mandatory in every shonen

[wraith mantle]

i hope he doesn't just run away

[sage temple]

[late swan]

10 more?
We need total 10 dragon chapters first lol

[wet condor]

Lol I'm not sure what you mean

[tranquil blade]

Well I know that, but clearly it isn't haki that can beat Imu

[hot cairn]

isn’t that after the villain is defeated tho

not before

[tranquil blade]

and if it's gonna be devil fruits then...

[late swan]

History will be kinder to blackbeard

[tranquil blade]

It's probably gonna be those 2 fruits

[urban lodge]

I mean a team up to defeat the big bad

[hot cairn]

BB is a big bad

[grand flower]

It'd be rather pointless to introduce the Abyss mark, reveal that Shanks is the son of a CD, has been to Marijoa, and then show us Shanks with a mark on his arm just for it to not do what we've had associated with the Abyss mark. I'm not interested in entertaining the idea so let's agree to disagree here that Shanks couldn't regenerate

[lofty fern]

I think DFs are going to be even worse. BB is working off of his father's faulty plan.

[steel stirrup]

To beat a bigger bad

Imu

[urban lodge]

Yeah, that's why it sucks, but I can see it happening

[grand flower]

I think sea kings can bypass it

[steel stirrup]

I don't see it happening but im not opposed to it

[ornate tartan]

luffy don’t care about that

[rich hornet]

BB is the biggest bad

[wet condor]

Joyboy's Haki though reversed Imu's summoning or whatever you want to call it and had Joyboy stressed. It's going to be important to beating Imu even if it's not a direct counter to his regeneration. We see that Conq Haki is actually capable of damaging the HK's which is a power bequeathed to them by Imu. Imu themselves has powerful Haki. Having great Haki, Conqueror's Haki, is just part of the game at this point. Thematically, no one could beat Imu if they didn't have exceptional Haki just because of what it's supposed to represent

[steel stirrup]

[late swan]

Shanks with regen might be the strongest man of all time lol
Except imu and 5 elders ofc

[hot cairn]

I don’t see it happening to be honest

[tranquil blade]

Imu is definitely the bigger bad between the two

[steel stirrup]

The Biggest

The Largest

[lofty fern]

We don't even know if what Shanks has is the mark or not. We need a lot more about that time to say anything about Shanks

[hot cairn]

debatable

[ashen perch]

BB is definitely bad in the superlative way but not the biggest bad

[steel stirrup]

Yes but a man can dream

[tranquil blade]

Uhh right now? Let's be honest

[hot cairn]

it’s 50/50 in my opinion

[urban lodge]

Let's pray that the two fruits aren't the nika and the yami

[prisma yacht]

So far.

[prisma idol]

[steel stirrup]

I pray the two fruits are the Nika and the Yami

[ornate tartan]

what u mean the bigger bad? his stomach? cuz no matter how bad he is he’s not more twisted then Imu😂

[prisma idol]

You know the truth

[tranquil blade]

Well yes

[wraith mantle]

why is rayleigh not fighting imu with the boys

[steel stirrup]

You know why

[sweet anvil]

If we’re not including imu he’s …

[hot cairn]

we’ll know about one whenever the Elbaph fruit gets revealed

[ashen perch]

But yes, BB and Luffy teaming up to beat the bigger threat, lets call it that

[grand flower]

Be a very pointless fake out

[prisma idol]

!speedreader2

[tropic nova]

https://tenor.com/view/not-reading-read-reading-his-ass-is-not-reading-ignore-gif-18922326

[wraith mantle]

hoes before bros?

[tranquil blade]

He's having his romance moment

[steel stirrup]

You know damn well why Rayleigh aint here

[late swan]

Nuh uh

[sweet anvil]

Who is stronger

[ornate tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-anime-one-piece-animated-gifs-one-piece-one-piece-sulong-bepo-vs-the-blackbeard-pirates-one-piece-doc-q-and-stronger-gif-14849790826358418599

[steel stirrup]

Give him 3 or 4 minutes he'll be back

[hot cairn]

BB has potential

[prisma idol]

A horse

[wraith mantle]

lmao

[steel stirrup]

Stronger is the horse of Doc Q

[sweet anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/michaeljordan-mj-basketball-gif-michael-jordan-no-no-no-no-gif-16220345851539903827

[tranquil blade]

but potential isn't now

that's later

[grand flower]

I doubt Oda showed us this in the midst of all the Abyss and Holy Knight stuff just for it to lack consequence related to those things

[lofty fern]

It can't damage, Coc only slows down regen. We also an see that even after Joyboy's blast it can only disrupt it. I think asking everyone to be Joyboy's highest level or higher is a big ask. Especially for people that don't even have haki. I think we need something else.

[sweet anvil]

Mihawk was fighting a shanks with immortality 🙏

[late swan]

Kids wait for shanks vs blackbeard
Men wait for kuzan vs beckman
Legends wait for stronger vs monster

[steel stirrup]

Shamrock already confirmed he came back home for a second

[sweet anvil]

All I see is more agenda

[grand flower]

Blackbeard scarred regenerating Shanks

Mihawk dueled regenerating Shanks

[steel stirrup]

[sweet anvil]

Lanks

[hot cairn]

who would you guys prefer as the “bigger” bad: Imu or BB?

[steel stirrup]

What a lovely day

[sweet anvil]

BB

[tranquil blade]

and he probably won too

[grand flower]

Imu

[steel stirrup]

Imu

[urban lodge]

Imu will always be the bigger bad

[grand flower]

He's got the title

[hot cairn]

what the fuck

[late swan]

Y'all think shanks can turn off his regen too👀

[wraith mantle]

i want someone else to be the final villain

[ornate tartan]

none of the holy knights have immortality only regen

the only immortal non gorosei is gunko, who is special to Imu

Garling and Sommers got visibly older from God Valley to the present time

[hot cairn]

really.???

[prisma yacht]

Bb always

[grand flower]

I'm lying like fuck Blackbeard is way better

[urban lodge]

It's a whole different thing from who the final villain is

[golden valley]

But that was a singular blast. Its not the same as sustaining that blast and then say killing them if their powers are turned off

[hot cairn]

is it

[ashen perch]

Shuron have you heard of my BB exploding idea

[urban lodge]

Yes

[steel stirrup]

Imu

I dont think BB is beyond redemption

Imu is

[wraith mantle]

nah was a joke

[grand flower]

No

[hot cairn]

I was about to say lmao

[wraith mantle]

its not about redemption tho

[grand flower]

I knew you'd be shocked

[sweet anvil]

They’re semi immortal if they can only die to old age

[wet condor]

You may need something else but it's the only thing up to this point that's demonstrated to do anything at all. You're gonna need Joyboy Nika powers to beat Imu, that much is obvious. But you're also going to need to top tier Haki to fight Imu especially considering Imu themselves is basically a Haki God

[wraith mantle]

its about who will become the king of the pirates

[prisma yacht]

That's right

[steel stirrup]

If thats the final fight then yeah BB is the final villain

[prisma idol]

I believe this will happen way before the final battle

[hot cairn]

The bigger one should be the final villain

[prisma yacht]

Fk that lame bitch imu

[wraith mantle]

idk

[grand flower]

It's not hard to imagine that if you keep wailing on them with Hao, they could die if you're strong enough tbh

[steel stirrup]

But I think Luffy will become PK before he actually fights Imu

[urban lodge]

Well I agree, but Oda might not

[hot cairn]

me too

[prisma idol]

I agree with this

[grand flower]

Not possible

Imu is part of the race for the OP

[ornate tartan]

Luffy has a dream that goes beyond becoming King of the Pirates

Until Imu is gone this dream can’t happen probably

[grand flower]

Story ends when that does

[hot cairn]

I agree with this take

[steel stirrup]

This too

[wet condor]

Yeah. I can see it just taking a long time

[graceful belfry]

Tell em king

[grand flower]

Once Luffy becomes PK, that's it

[ashen perch]

So the idea removes the possibility of BB becoming the final villain, what it basically means is that BB in his greed and arrogance decides to take on the powers of the devil on top of a 3rd DF that he either already has or will soon get. This happens after BB and Luffy team up to successfully beat Imu.

[grand flower]

There's no conflicts after that

[hot cairn]

there’s more after that

[steel stirrup]

I think Luffy will become PK and unite SWORD and the rest of the relevant characters

[grand flower]

I'm really tempted to stop reading at that first part but it's you

[wraith mantle]

i guess it all depends on what luffy's real dream is, because that will be the final thing in the manga

[steel stirrup]

And then they'll fight Imu

[graceful belfry]

Say it one more time for the people who still don’t believe

[ashen perch]

Lmao

[wet condor]

There may be some other way for people who aren't Conq users to hurt them too. It's just clear to me that Haki is an integral part of the equation to beating Imu completely

[urban lodge]

It will be the freest man in the seas vs the oppressor

[sweet anvil]

Sword and relevant might as well say koby and friends

[ornate tartan]

why would we go into a conflict with Imu with the strawhats not knowing who they are fighting and why though?
that kind of would make no sense

[urban lodge]

Luffy will already be pirate king

[lofty fern]

He never said that's what was on his arm. It's just an assumption. Also, Shanks could have dipped out before he even got regen and he just has the tattoo as a reminder of his CD lineage. There's a lot of way it can happen or change.
It's like how everyone was SURE that Dragon would eat his fruit here when he put Shanks in that chest, but Oda did things differently. I don't think Shanks ever had regen. Or at least never kept it.

[sweet anvil]

Sword is straight bums

[wet condor]

Beyond even just hurting them. Just having a spirit that's capable of matching Imu's

[sweet anvil]

Moreso than the HK

[grand flower]

Just Luffy's dream, which will be his reward for winning the final conflict

[wraith mantle]

reading one piece after the one piece reveal will feel weird

[steel stirrup]

Nah its a few more Giants and other races

We gotta get King too, there's a Lunarian on the mural

[ashen perch]

I have just been thinking about it and it truthfully does not make a lick of sense for BB to have the devil powers on top of Yami Yami, like it sounds ridiculous

[hot cairn]

Arsal do you believe the final war goes before or after finding the OP?

[ashen perch]

After

[tranquil blade]

If the yami yami is needed to beat Imu's powers and Blackbeard gets both he can't lose anymore

[sweet anvil]

At the same time

[grand flower]

So Oda introduced us to the concepts of the Abyss mark, Abyss regeneration, holy knights, and figarland Shanks then showed us Shanks having a mark after we learned he went to marijoa so it could not be the same mark related to all of those things. what's the alternative?

[sweet anvil]

The final war IS the fight for the one piece

[hot cairn]

at the same time? I found Shuron’s alt

I don’t get the same time idea

[lofty fern]

I don't see Oda have them wailing on them for half an hour and hoping it works AND they just sit there and take it. I think it's going to be something else

[steel stirrup]

I think Luffy will become PK and unite the rest of the relevant races (probably unintentionally) and then they fight Imu

[sweet anvil]

The worlds fate will be decided by whoever gets the one piece

[steel stirrup]

SWORD too

[wet condor]

They're never going to sit there and take it lol

[ornate tartan]

to learn the true history, u have to reach the final island laughtale

Rayleigh told the strawhats they might come to a different answer then they did

How do yall think the final War will happen before the crew learns the true history and the reason they are fighting Imu?

And the One Piece itself is probably crucial in beating Imu, and any other info they might need to know will be learned at laughtale

[hot cairn]

I also think itll be cooler if Luffy rolls to the final war being the king of the pirates

that’s tough as fuck

[ashen perch]

Yea, but if BB explodes like the myth goes about eating too many devil fruits, he manages to go out in a quite fitting manner for him

[grand flower]

Both we and the SHs have enough reason to be invested in Imu's defeat as it is. But I also don't think Luffy is defeating Imu, Dragon is

[sweet anvil]

Presumably by time someone gets the one piece everything will be over and Luffy will go onto complete his final dream

[wet condor]

But I'm not going to surprised if you can just beat them to death

[hot cairn]

cook

[sweet anvil]

I don’t like the idea of the one piece and the final war being seperate

[grand flower]

Because the final war is for the One Piece. They will win and the true history will be part of the reward

[sweet anvil]

The reason it’s the biggest war is because everyone is involved with the one piece at the centre of everything

[wraith mantle]

ok

[hot cairn]

oh you’ve come around to there being set up for the strawhats

[sweet anvil]

Cook

[grand flower]

Huh? What do you mean?

[steel stirrup]

If the One Piece gives you the power to change the world

And Imu has been set up to be the World itself

Yea I think they have to find it first before they can beat them

[formal wagon]

Doc Q Horse

[prisma yacht]

Trust

[lofty fern]

To show us a hint of what will be to come when we get futher in the flashback. It doesn't mean that SHANKS had to have the power, just that he's related to that legacy.

[hot cairn]

2 years ago you wouldn’t have agreed to the set up the strawhats have against the WG to fight Imu

[grand flower]

That's what defeats Teach?

[sweet anvil]

Lmao I read this wrong

[wraith mantle]

Ok. Luffy will nead to beat Imu or BB to acquire the one piece. Then, he will use the one piece to defeat the other enemy.

[ashen perch]

He has already lost in a prior arc remember

[hot cairn]

you read it right

[grand flower]

I still maintain what I said before, Imu is the Revo opponent.

[sweet anvil]

Wait what

[hot cairn]

ik Ik

[lofty fern]

I think he will go out in drowning. Oda has hinting at the drowning thing to BB through more than one person several times

[grand flower]

so a pointless fake out since we already know that by virtue of Shanks being a Figarland

[ashen perch]

I believe he's gonna have his GV with Hachinosu, he'll lose there and manage to return as an ally

[steel stirrup]

I think BB might drown and Imu will get eaten by a Sea King

[grand flower]

What I'm saying there is the SHs don't have to learn about the void entury to want to defeat Imu. Even if you're in that camp, it doesn't necessitate the OP is found before the final war

[lofty fern]

We didn't know the full story until this actual flashback, that's what the hint was for

[sweet anvil]

Imu is everyones opponent

[mellow tiger]

sup ppl

[sweet anvil]

The mural supports this idea

[grand flower]

What? What does this flashback add that we didn't know

[lofty fern]

Why would a sea king be able hold on to him?

[ashen perch]

Has he? I don't think the drowning thing has been directly hinted at like that

[steel stirrup]

The mural is another reason why i think finding the OP comes before beating Imu

[grand flower]

I think the whole point of the mural is to be disrupted because Blackbeard and Luffy are all about defying expectations, breaking the rules, and disrupting the status quo

[sweet anvil]

Lord of the coast coming in clutch after disappearing for like 1500 chapters

[steel stirrup]

Able to what?

[hot cairn]

We always learn about the past before the climax/fight of an arc, we’re currently in an example of it

[grand flower]

Oda can do whatever he wants

[ashen perch]

Drowning just has only been suggested for BB because people see it as a fitting death for a Devil Fruit obsessed man, but there's actually a more fitting one that I am suggesting

[hot cairn]

I know but I’m just telling you how it has been before

[sweet anvil]

Luffy at least isn’t defying expectations , the expectations were always for joyboy to return and bring the dawn no ?

[steel stirrup]

Which is

[grand flower]

We're getting so much context for Kaido now after he's been defeated

[hot cairn]

this is not new to One Piece

[hot cairn]

The history of Wano was explored with Oden, before the final fight

[weak wedge]

Yep wano is so good

[lofty fern]

We didn't know anything about Shanks' actual beginning. We thought he was a full CD with a CD mom, we had no idea about Garling's feelings on anything, we didn't know how Shanks and Sham got seperated. You also have to remember that Oda always writes this as if you never saw any of the movies, so imagine yourself a reader who knows nothing about Film Red and what is said there. Also we still got a ways to go because we will see Shanks in the Holy Land during this flashback too.

[weak wedge]

Yep it's all related to shanks

[grand flower]

None of that adds any context that detracts from that being an Abyss mark that grants regeneration

[hot cairn]

Oden’s life and death was the main thing that we needed to learn before the fight began

@grand flower

[weak wedge]

Yah

[ashen perch]

The myth about eating too many DFs is that it causes the person to quite literally explode to their death. BB has managed to avoid that, but surely there's a limit? I think he'll reach that limit by trying to absorb Imu.

[lofty fern]

Sorry, forgot the hold

[steel stirrup]

I think we definitely see a flashback of Shanks in the Holy Lands and what made him decide to go back down

[ornate tartan]

yall think Imu is gonna lose before the void century flashback?

We gonna see Luffy beat him to turn around and watch Imus victory against Joyboy?😂 cmon man

[weak wedge]

No 🙂‍↔️

[steel stirrup]

So you're asking what makes me think a Sea King can stop Imu?

[grand flower]

So Oda can do that without showing us the full void century

[weak wedge]

He can

[wise tree]

Where is the section to talk freely about the new chapter?

[hot cairn]

wdym

[sweet anvil]

We get the VC flashback a bit before imu gets defeated imo

[steel stirrup]

You're here

[ashen perch]

You can do it here

[steel stirrup]

You made it

Congrats

[weak wedge]

Idk you should type here

[lofty fern]

He's been told that the weaknesses of DFs will be his undoing

[lofty fern]

Yes

[wet condor]

I can see BB drowning

[grand flower]

When Dragon is fighting Imu, Oda can show us a more specific flashback and then show us the full void century flashback later

[steel stirrup]

I could see that end for him

His obsession with power will be his end

[wise tree]

I usually saw the section that had the chapter number as its name.

[weak wedge]

Yep 😊

[wet condor]

Or eating too many DFs

He loves the fruits

[lofty fern]

It is giving context as to why Oda had that mark on Shanks and that it might have nothing to do with regeneration

[weak wedge]

I think so it's on break

[ashen perch]

Yup, exactly

[steel stirrup]

#manga is more powerscaling

#also-manga is more theory convo

You can get theory convo in #manga but its usually garbage i won't lie to you

[ashen perch]

It makes more sense to me than drowning

[weak wedge]

He should sink

[hot cairn]

he can but I’m just saying that the way things usually go is flashback -> fight. It’s not about what Oda can do, it’s about what Oda does.

[wise tree]

Anyway...speaking of the new cap, how did Imu get hold of Saturn?

[steel stirrup]

Not a fan of the black guy drowning ngl

[sweet anvil]

It’s sad that dragon will lose his second fight

[steel stirrup]

Lmaoo

[weak wedge]

It's good

[ashen perch]

The channels usually dont have the chapter numbers, its just to indicate to spoiler readers that this is for the current actually released chapter and not for spoilers from the upcoming one. The chapter is actually released now so you can freely talk here.

[grand flower]

You're arguing that Oda drew that mark on Shanks for the purpose of making sure we didn't miss his connections to the CDs, am I getting that right?

[wise tree]

OK, thanks a lot!!

[steel stirrup]

Tbh nothing can stop current Imu

But Imu after a few chapters of getting beaten down by a Sun God?

Who knows

[ashen perch]

Npnp

[sweet anvil]

Wragon

[weak wedge]

Sun gold works

[sweet anvil]

Dragon and mihawk are the only guys who can stop that 800 year old gooner

[ornate tartan]

excited to see what’s going on in the holy land i think that will be visited before the arc ends

[ashen perch]

As for your question, I think Imu just has the ability I guess, I mean we did see him engulf Saturn in mysterious black flames and take away his immortality from a million miles away

[weak wedge]

Yep probably they would

[ashen perch]

I guess he can just pop out of Saturn when he feels like it

[steel stirrup]

Dragon is important because Luffy will destroy the entire world economy and society and then be like "Ight good luck yall im going on another adventure"

[prisma yacht]

Ur forgetting someone

[wise tree]

Anyway... how did Imu take possession of Saturn?

[weak wedge]

Yep saturn

[sweet anvil]

I’m not

Trust me

[prisma yacht]

U r

[wraith mantle]

will rocks resist domi reversi??

[steel stirrup]

If even for .1 seconds

We win

[sweet anvil]

The son of a fraud is a fraud

[brittle basin]

probably not

[weak wedge]

Your sus

[wraith mantle]

i pray to nika for this

[prisma yacht]

Nah fk him

Not him

[ornate tartan]

u must be fried if u think either one of those guys will have anything to do with bringing down imu😂

dragon himself has a 20% chance

[sweet anvil]

You’ve said this like 3 times bro what does this mean 😭

[brittle basin]

i do still think he will beg roger and garp to kill him, so he might be able to still think if but for a moment

[sweet anvil]

BB too

[steel stirrup]

This reminds me that Blackbeard has Saturn's form

[lofty fern]

I think it would be a fitting end. He ends up on the bottom of the sea like Davy Jones

[prisma yacht]

I'm talking about HIM

[grand flower]

But this wouldn't be the first time we've gotten flashback - fight - even bigger picture

[sweet anvil]

Oh goatbeard

Forgot about him

[prisma yacht]

[weak wedge]

You had heard it 3 times what's wrong with you 🙂‍↔️

[ornate tartan]

how did u forget the main character😭

[steel stirrup]

Imu used Saturn to kill Rocks

And now BB might use Saturn's form to destabilize Imu's kingdom

[lofty fern]

No, as a hint to connect to a future event we'll see during a later flashback

[wraith mantle]

he will beg them to kill him before he kills eris, so i wonder if rocks and garp will be successful in protecting eris from DR Rocks

[ashen perch]

Its not really clear but basically comes down to whatever the abyss connection between Imu and his subjects is. It'll be properly explained later I'm sure

[prisma yacht]

Well I was talking about bb

[brittle basin]

ooooh now that's a good condescending emoji. i gotta use it

[soft tangle]

Who else loves in One Piece when the villain antagonizes the good guy and good guy loses/dies cause of it?

[steel stirrup]

I already sent the art earlier of Rocks begging them to kill him lmaoo

[brittle basin]

🙂‍↔️ Mihawk fans amirite

[sweet anvil]

I don’t get it

[prisma yacht]

[wraith mantle]

dont tell me its so toadgashi shit

[ashen perch]

Yea I'd be okay with it too, also makes sense

[graceful belfry]

[lofty fern]

And what makes this sun god any better than the last one? Unless Luffy can surpass Joyboy, he's not doing anything

[weak wedge]

You probably dumb

[sweet anvil]

You’re *

[ashen perch]

For his last words

[steel stirrup]

Yes but I think the whole point of this is Luffy will surpass Joyboy

[ornate tartan]

the slander would be crazy

they would be calling this aura loss

[weak wedge]

[steel stirrup]

And everyone before him

[brittle basin]

ugly crying demon rocks next chapter

[ornate tartan]

instead of seeing it as a sad scene

[graceful belfry]

Good ball knowledge

[soft tangle]

Oda can’t get any lower

[weak wedge]

Yahh

[wraith mantle]

i dont want to see my goat cry

[weak wedge]

He's cooking me

[brittle basin]

"I WANT TO DIE"

[wise tree]

From the panel it seems as if a shadow has entered Saturn and become him

[prisma yacht]

A good conclusion is must

[weak wedge]

Yep

[steel stirrup]

😭😭

[fast pagoda]

This would be so good but it would make too many people mad

[sweet anvil]

Agenda piece will have a field day

[graceful belfry]

I hope he cries and I hope it’s emote worthy

[steel stirrup]

Fuck em!

[fast pagoda]

Though I want Rocks to kill himself

[sweet anvil]

The slander will be generational

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/no-nooo-nope-eat-fingerwag-gif-12358308896192153975

[fast pagoda]

Free himself but die in the process

[wise tree]

Shadow which is then IMU itself

[weak wedge]

What's wrong imus asss

[prisma yacht]

Imu is that u

[ashen perch]

Yea, Imu can just do that.

[sweet anvil]

Penny will be the no 1 slanderer

[grand flower]

I think the Elders were granted their Yokai forms by Imu's DF powers. A variation of Domi Reversi

[steel stirrup]

Slander a man because he begs his friends to kill him instead of letting him kill his own family

See why Agenda Piece is fucking stupid?

[prisma yacht]

cd in disguise

[hot cairn]

where have we gotten it?

[steel stirrup]

Because that shit is stupid

[lofty fern]

Sure, eventually, but I'm thinking a pretty one-sided/equal fight until the last moment, kinda similar to Kaido

[sweet anvil]

It’s only funny when people say mihawk paints his sword

[wise tree]

Has he done this before? If so, I don't remember. 😂

[weak wedge]

Idk he probably got only one

[graceful belfry]

I’m investing in the betterment of the community

[ashen perch]

Its new, Imu is just kind of showing the ability to do anything lol

[grand flower]

Kaido and Big Mom are current examples. Whitebeard too. Arlong

[hot cairn]

I wonder if they have limits

[steel stirrup]

Well we know Luffy won't kill them

But I dont see them being redeemable

Them drowning or being eaten is the only way to get out of that corner imo

[weak wedge]

Ok I love them

[prisma yacht]

Probably what imu believes

[ashen perch]

If it is just a DF yea, still thinking the devil is real

[weak wedge]

You emo

[steel stirrup]

The community for them

[steel stirrup]

Wym?

[weak wedge]

Yep

[weak wedge]

I thought you are a girl

[ashen perch]

I have a hard time picturing how we get the final war and then this massive, separate series length void century flashback

[lofty fern]

Luffy can kill without doing it directly. Look at Kaido. Imu will either be sealed or he'll disappear into dust or something

[sweet anvil]

@weak wedge might be a bot in disguise lowkey

[steel stirrup]

Thats what you get for thinking

[ashen perch]

It'd be a pretty weird way to conclude the series

[sweet anvil]

Bro just says random stuff

[lofty fern]

I also need first world flashback

[weak wedge]

Bruh you moth

[graceful belfry]

If it’s any consolation, I want Imu to have an emote worthy panel too. Maybe something akin to the Enel face

[hot cairn]

Kaido’s flashback wasnt the main one of Wano, it was Oden’s. I’m not sure what you mean by BM and WB but Arlong wasnt the main flashback either, it was Nami’s.

The Void Century flashback would be seen in it’s entirely.

[steel stirrup]

Nah that sounds reversed

Got that shit backwards

[weak wedge]

Oh cool

[ashen perch]

And that's not even like considering the other issues here, but structurally its all weird

[sweet anvil]

Why am I sus bro

[hot cairn]

yeah it doesn’t make sense

[steel stirrup]

We supposed to get the flashback and then the fight

[weak wedge]

Your name has it sus-pecting you

[ashen perch]

Can see that be the void century flashback moment within the VC flashback lol

[hot cairn]

that’s how it goes

[lofty fern]

It would also kinda be like what we have now, with a full battle underway only to thrust into a massive flashback

[steel stirrup]

It makes every punch hit harder

[sweet anvil]

Why did it take me this long to get it

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/nodding-crossed-arms-pikachu-eyes-closed-pokemon-gif-15194868

[soft tangle]

We’re supposed to be learning why Lokis father was killed btw

[steel stirrup]

Putting the flashback after the fight is some Captain Hindsight shit

[hot cairn]

yeah but the main fighters werent in the fight at all

[ornate tartan]

i mean u are right

are we supposed to see Luffy defeat Imu to turn around and get a flashback on how Imu defeated Joyboy. How would that even work?😂

[ashen perch]

Yea, but worse because its coming up at its end

[weak wedge]

You got a girl pfp

[steel stirrup]

Okay?

[graceful belfry]

That’ll be what chapter 1169 is about

[digital spear]

you mean like the ASL flashback

[prisma yacht]

I thought u knew and were just playing along 😭

[steel stirrup]

Perfect example

[lofty fern]

The main fighters aren't just Luffy, Zoro, and Sanji 😭

[weak wedge]

That's why I assumed you

[hot cairn]

why that number specially

[ashen perch]

The ASL flashback isn't the same though

[steel stirrup]

Be better

[hot cairn]

yeah it’s also Loki and Hajrudin

[lofty fern]

Nah, only half way. We got the rest of Harald's story to go

[weak wedge]

Yep I will be the best

[ornate tartan]

there are some fans who actually think strawhats are skipping lodestar

[ashen perch]

Well actually it is an inversion but thats not relevant here

[graceful belfry]

I think the God Valley bit will end by no later than chapter 1166, and I think two chapters of build up into Harald’s death is appropriate

[steel stirrup]

Damn so this flashback aint ending any time soon

[digital spear]

I think more like chapter 1172

[weak wedge]

Yeh

[prisma yacht]

Isnt Hajrudin weak?

[lofty fern]

We have like 14 more years of time to go

[digital spear]

No

[ashen perch]

Oh nah I mean the VC Flashback according to Shuron, he thinks its coming at the end when they find the OP

[weak wedge]

So many flash backstory are too much

For me

[steel stirrup]

No he's not weak

Thats funny tho

He did struggle against Machvise

[prisma yacht]

That's weak

[digital spear]

W Machvise

[steel stirrup]

I understand heaviest guy in the world whoopty doo

[hot cairn]

ahh I see I see

[digital spear]

No

[ashen perch]

GV is ending by 67 and the flashback by 1173 probably

[weak wedge]

Another thing related to god valley

[prisma yacht]

For someone to fight a toptier

[hot cairn]

damn next year

[weak wedge]

I am done

[urban lodge]

2 more of god valley and 4 more of Loki and Harald

[olive sigil]

The heaviest guy in the world

[steel stirrup]

How much did Machvise weight in that final punch?

[digital spear]

https://tenor.com/view/67-67-meme-67-kid-mustard-kendrick-gif-2050307492924713175

[ashen perch]

Stahppp

[digital spear]

10 thousand pounds

[weak wedge]

Kuma

[hot cairn]

he’ll be strong af probably knowing Oda

[trim lily]

wait that wasn’t intentional arsal

[ashen perch]

I genuinely believe its ending at 1167

[steel stirrup]

Lmaoo

[digital spear]

Morley could carry him

[ashen perch]

I did it intentionally like once smh

[weak wedge]

No it has more 5 years

[digital spear]

Wdym lmao Machvise punched it with broken arms

[hot cairn]

But yeah the VC flashback happening at the end of the war is odd

[steel stirrup]

??

[digital spear]

What

[steel stirrup]

You mean Hajrudin

[digital spear]

Yes

[weak wedge]

??

[steel stirrup]

Lmaoo

[ashen perch]

Also 2 more chapters of GV? Nah thats too quick

[hot cairn]

like it also depends on what you guys think the Final War is

[weak wedge]

Yep

[ashen perch]

I'd give it 3-4 for sure

[steel stirrup]

I know Hajrudin isn't weak

Its still funny

[weak wedge]

The final arc is so good

[ashen perch]

I broke it down actually lemme see

[hot cairn]

cause not everyone is going to be after the One Piece while the world freaking sinks

[digital spear]

Bro already has the final chapters of One Piece

[ashen perch]

1164 - Rocks fucking everybody up, some focus on other Rocks Pirates or HKs in the rest of the chapter, ends with Garp or Roger suggesting their alliance to the other
1165 - Rocks v Garp and Roger
1166 - Rocks's death
1167 - Conclusion/Aftermath, back to Loki to get his reaction

[grand flower]

Yeah they are, people think the OP will be key to survival

[ashen perch]

This isn't my ideal pacing but Oda's kinda blitzing through it

[weak wedge]

Oh at this point of the story I can even predict it

[ashen perch]

So oh well

[royal orchid]

also manga should I give gurren lagann a chance

[digital spear]

Yes

[ashen perch]

Yes

[hot cairn]

the Navy already said they can’t focus in that

[graceful belfry]

I need Oda to keep it at a brisk pace from here on out

[hot cairn]

also you don’t see Imu going for the OP do you

[graceful belfry]

For the flashback, I mean

[grand flower]

Koby says they have to

[hot cairn]

they’re prepping for war

[weak wedge]

The one piece is real

[hot cairn]

that’s Sword

[grand flower]

Imu is literally included in the spread of major figures in pursuit of the OP

[hot cairn]

I want him to take his time

[weak wedge]

Coby's noone

[hot cairn]

what is Imu doing right now

[royal orchid]

why didn't the Roger pirates just tell everyone what the one piece is

[hot cairn]

-Vegapunk during his speech

[grand flower]

What is Luffy doing rn?

[hot cairn]

why are you answering my question with another question

[weak wedge]

[digital spear]

Why did you even ask the question

[royal orchid]

I know the world government killed joyboy but I don't really know who joyboy was so I'll be a centrist for now

[weak wedge]

Bros dumb

[hot cairn]

what is the question

[ashen perch]

Shuron we've been through this one actually, I mentioned that the spread includes both the pursuers and those who will get in their way

[digital spear]

What Imu is doing

[weak wedge]

Probably finding it's fruit

[digital spear]

Boooring. Imu needs the One Piece for his imperfect world

[hot cairn]

Arsal is kinda right @grand flower

[ashen perch]

It doesn't mean all of them are actually going after the One Piece, they're just the major players here

[hot cairn]

yep

[digital spear]

[grand flower]

They're all pursuers in everyone else's way

[ashen perch]

YC, Imu knowing about the One Piece doesn't even make any sense

[olive sigil]

Listening to scooper talk about god valley

[hot cairn]

what?

[ashen perch]

Knowing what it does I mean

[hot cairn]

ahhh

[weak wedge]

Scooper is so snoozing

[digital spear]

I didnt say that

[sage temple]

Refined it

[royal orchid]

why would mu need to know about the history of the world... mu lived it.

https://tenor.com/view/gorosei-one-piece-gorosei-standing-imu-imu-sitting-on-the-throne-gif-2257137190750988894

[ashen perch]

I don't know what you meant then, Imu would have no clue if he needs it or not

[weak wedge]

I loved this one

[digital spear]

Imu could just have an idea that the One Piece was something important to Joy Boy and that he wants it instead

[ashen perch]

I doubt that

[grand flower]

There's no reason Imu can't or shouldn't know what the OP is

[hot cairn]

if Imu wanted the OP why wait until after the speech to act

[hot cairn]

???

[ashen perch]

Was going to say, there's the problem with the logic here

[weak wedge]

He couldn't it's just a shadow

[urban lodge]

Why would Imu know

[weak wedge]

He's illogical

[urban lodge]

How can you even know without finding it

[ashen perch]

If Imu knew about it all along, he would have went after it ages ago

[grand flower]

Are yall deadass rn?

[sage temple]

The One Piece if according to VP whoever finds it would determine the world's fate or wtv why wouldn't Imu know about it

[grand flower]

Knowing what it is doesn't mean he knows where it is currently

wtf

[pine ridge]

knowing about it doesnt mean being able to find it

[ashen perch]

That's not the point

[urban lodge]

That's not the point

[grand flower]

insane leap of logic going on right now

WHAT

[urban lodge]

Lmao

[grand flower]

What are yall talking about???

[ashen perch]

Shuron is saying that Imu will go after it now...

[grand flower]

I'm saying Imu has wanted it all this time

[weak wedge]

Wow

[digital spear]

Actually if Imu knew about it he probably wouldnt have let Ohara killed but rather took some so they can read the Poneglyphs for him

[urban lodge]

Unless Joyboy told Imu about it for some inexplicable reason there's no reason Imu should know

[pine ridge]

yeah I think he's been trying to find it for 800 years

[grand flower]

Or...Joy Boy had it..when they fought...?

[urban lodge]

And then hid it how?

[grand flower]

We know that's a fact

[urban lodge]

He died

[hot cairn]

what do you think the One Piece is

[grand flower]

Joy Boy died when he lost the war

[weak wedge]

Why he is even 800 years old

[grand flower]

So he had to have had the OP prior to that

[grand flower]

a ship

[weak wedge]

No

[ashen perch]

I just have a hard time picturing this too tbh, feels clear to me that there's basically a plan in place here that is meant to take down Imu

[wise tree]

How does Imu take possession of opponents?

[prisma yacht]

I can see shuron's vision

[weak wedge]

He takes he is emo

[grand flower]

Same allies that carved his apology/message

[weak wedge]

It's fire

[grand flower]

ty both

[ashen perch]

The cipher of poneglyphs that only people of Wano had the knowledge of, the idea of them being coordinates locked far away in Lodestar

Its basically an elaborate plan

One that Imu should not be wary of

[grand flower]

None of that means Imu can't know what the OP is

[weak wedge]

Yep

[grand flower]

All that necessitates is that it was hidden from even him

[weak wedge]

❤️‍🩹

[digital spear]

I mean the marines wanted to go after it to not let the pirates have it. Maybe after Imu heard that whoever gets the One Piece will change the world, he will definitely not want anyone else to change the current world that he is ruling, and decide its time to find and destroy it. (Until he potentially finds out what it exactly is and whether its something that would help him or not)

[pine ridge]

unless it's connected to the world being incomplete as imu said

[ornate tartan]

the one piece might be something advanced given the ancient kingdom technology surpassed even the current time

[digital spear]

I think its a really cool concept that the whole world is gunning for the One Piece now, rather than just the pirates

Or everyone represented on the 1121 spread

[urban lodge]

I interpreted that as it's not complete while his enemies are still around, but it could be

[grand flower]

Yeah even if Imu wanting to claim it is a recent development, there is a really good excuse for that: Joy Boy is actually back this time

[ashen perch]

Man I just don't think its meant to be interpreted that way

[ornate tartan]

i think next chapter has a lot of lore drops

and more info about rocks himself

[eternal viper]

I guess the question is why didn’t Imu do anything in the past 25 years since Roger’s death

[ashen perch]

Akainu is not actually about to pull out a boat and say lets head out for the seas and find the One Piece before those Pirates do

[weak wedge]

Ya me too

[digital spear]

the Revos actually said they wanted it, and the marines as well they just have the problem that they have other jobs, but they dont have to send everyone

[sage temple]

Exactly why wouldn't Imu know about smth so important

[digital spear]

I think it would be really cool if he did that

Like not actually find it but try

[pine ridge]

I just think you need more than the poneglyphs to find laughtale. like what rayleigh said, roger found it cause he heard the voice of the universe, and imu cant hear shit so he cant find it

[grand flower]

The line of text leading into that box is literally "The fate of the world now rests in the hands of the one who finds it!! The person who lays claim to the One Piece!!"

[weak wedge]

Akainu is a joke for me

[ornate tartan]

if the fate of the world rests in the hands of whoever finds the treasure, then surely it isn’t something simple

[pine ridge]

the poneglyphs take you close but then you'd need voat to actually get there

[ashen perch]

We have different definitions of cool then because Its just silly to me, the whole concept is silly. There's a reason why the Emperors have the main spotlight there while Koby for example is only thinking about stopping Luffy, they're the real last remaining players in this race.

[urban lodge]

But the world is Imu

[grand flower]

You're defeating your own argument by highlighting Koby

He wants to stop Luffy...by being the ones who claim it...

[ashen perch]

??

[digital spear]

Getting the One Piece would be stopping them. Also theyre all gonna fight anyway whats silly about that

[ashen perch]

You're adding that last part by yourself man

[grand flower]

They literally say they can't wait around for a pirate to claim the OP

[grand flower]

No I'm not

But I'd rather we just wait

[eternal viper]

The emperors are intentionally the biggest photos on the panel, showing that they are the main contenders

At least that would make the most sense

[weak wedge]

Yep

[ornate tartan]

koby won’t even get a single poneglyph

[digital spear]

So the bottom half are the side contenders

[eternal viper]

Ye

[weak wedge]

You pissed

[digital spear]

Huh

[sage temple]

Yeah and half of them are part of the WG

Why wouldn't Imu know about that

[digital spear]

What

[ashen perch]

Koby is not the among the stupid Marines who are very briefly blabbering about getting the OP, he gets his separate moment where his sole focus is on stopping Luffy, reinforcing my point that its the pursuers and the ones trying to stop them or help them.

[eternal viper]

The yonko are the closest to becoming the pirate king, that’s part of their reason for being emperors

[urban lodge]

Socrates I think you're missing context lol

[digital spear]

"Briefly blabbering" youre downplaying it

[sage temple]

I guess bro

[grand flower]

And how does Koby plan to do that

[urban lodge]

The discussion is if Imu knows what the one piece is or not

[weak wedge]

Yeh they could be

[ashen perch]

When I see Akainu pull out a boat, I'll reconsider this

[pine ridge]

I actually think laugh tale is in the florian triangle and the poneglyphs will direct you there, but after that you need voat to find it. imu knows it's there and this thing is him looking for it

[sage temple]

Shuron js repeated what I said n got a reaction I think I'm js mutted

[grand flower]

this man tripping again

[eternal viper]

I just don’t see why Imu would know, since the whole thing is Roger is the only person that found the island

[ashen perch]

You're believing idiots who're called idiots by fellow marines

[eternal viper]

Besides Joyboy I guess

[pine ridge]

the empty throne is also empty

[ornate tartan]

they don’t know what it is but they know whatever it is it can’t be anything good😂

[sage temple]

I wonder if this explains Loki's bounty being special

[digital spear]

So all they need is something else to save the people

[sage temple]

What yall reacting like that for

[pine ridge]

it could be those eyes, if it's some invisible island

honestly I like that

[eternal viper]

Yeah, Imu does sit there. But they don’t truly rule the world yet

[ashen perch]

They're going to save people from the pirates going after the One Piece

[ornate tartan]

i doubt loki has anything to do with the florian triangle

maybe the red line

[sage temple]

I mean people have speculated Loki has one of the strongest VOAT abilities rn

[tranquil blade]

He technically doesn't need a boat

[sage temple]

He's very aware while blindfolded and shackled

[ashen perch]

Well true

[pine ridge]

that is also likely, he's basically the momo of elbaf but even more important

[digital spear]

The small time marines can do that

[sage temple]

I hope we get to see that voat in action soon

[weak wedge]

Elbaf is cool

[ornate tartan]

if Loki gets VoAT his importance is going to skyrocket even more then it already is

[eternal viper]

True

[ashen perch]

YC and Shuron you've gotta understand how silly this is in the context of the chapter especially

[weak wedge]

Yep

[ornate tartan]

only a small handpicked amount of people have this rare ability

[sage temple]

Definitely he's already like a cornerstone of this arc right now

[ashen perch]

I'm reading this again, first time since it came out

[digital spear]

Why the chapter

[sage temple]

Now he could be related to the Hellfire Serpent, VoAT, Nika, and Domi Reversi immunity

[hot cairn]

that’s my answer to everything these days man LOL I feel ya

[sage temple]

Holy potential

[ashen perch]

And its clear that the emphasis is on PIRATES going after the One Piece, as it was likely ROGER'S plan all along

[eternal viper]

And have a crazy fruit that was key in taking Imu down

[ashen perch]

This is something VP very clearly highlights

[sage temple]

That too 😭 dude has it all

[digital spear]

What emphasis is on the One Piece this chapter?

Roger didnt even find it yet

[ashen perch]

YC

[weak wedge]

Yep

[ashen perch]

I mean the spread chapter

[weak wedge]

[pine ridge]

I think it's because joyboy was a pirate so if you want someone like joyboy to find it, it's gotta be a pirate. not that others cant go after is as well

[ashen perch]

1121, I'm referring to 1121

[weak wedge]

[sage temple]

Yes I haven't showered in 8 centuries

[weak wedge]

Wow

[ashen perch]

Not saying they cant at all but I think its important to highlight what VP is emphasizing on here because it is his speech that the big spread concludes with

[urban lodge]

Imu showers every day actually

[sage temple]

In piss yeah

[olive sun]

Had no idea you were a Melee fan

[weak wedge]

That's why he is invincible

[sage temple]

No wonder the butterflies are attracted to him

[ornate tartan]

how likely do yall think the “Xebec resists Domi reversi mind control” theory actually happens?😂

[ashen perch]

He's talking about pirates, he's talking about them being people who never buckle down to any pressure, and the fate of the world being in their hands after all. Next chapter again opens with a random guy shouting "what! The fate of the world is in the hands of pirates?"

[digital spear]

I havent found what you mean

[sage temple]

I feel like it'll play out similarly to Harald getting DR'd

[ashen perch]

How

[sage temple]

Him resisting it is very unlikely

[urban lodge]

Harald I'm actually more sure resisted it than Xebec

[digital spear]

Well yes this is exactly the reason why the WG should go for it now

[ashen perch]

Aghhhhh

[digital spear]

So far only pirates tried to find it

[hot cairn]

We can expect some type of involvement from the Navy and the WG tbh according to what BB said

[urban lodge]

Domi Reversi'd Harald would be way too much for anyone to stop

So I'm sure he resisted it long enough for Loki to kill him

[weak wedge]

Yep

[pine ridge]

that makes sense. anyone working for the wg wouldnt be allowed to and anyone trying to find it will 100% be labeled a pirate by the wg

[pine ridge]

the revos are like the only exception

[ashen perch]

Getting involved as the ones trying to stop the pirates, this is emphasized on in 1122

[weak wedge]

Idk I love vivi

[pine ridge]

who may or may not be looking for it

[royal orchid]

[ornate tartan]

who is mosaa

[pine ridge]

ida or eris I think

[weak wedge]

Moss it's inside the sea

[ashen perch]

Through Koby, whose reaction is to stop Luffy from finding the One Piece

[hot cairn]

how do they even stop them honestly most of the Yonkos have 3 poneglyphs at least. We might see Sword involved with the Burn Scar Man arc tbh

[ornate tartan]

speech patterns of mosa makes this unlikely

[weak wedge]

Yeh

[pine ridge]

ehh people change

[ashen perch]

I imagine they're going to go after all the emperors

[urban lodge]

I think it's just a new character

[olive sun]

Boring answer is Jarul
Funniest is Shiki

[weak wedge]

[tranquil blade]

I think the idea of WG or Marines going for the One Piece is a really interesting idea

[weak wedge]

Yeh probably would

[hot cairn]

man it’s hard to predict this type of shit without cutaways chapters

[sage temple]

Eris being Mosa would be sick

[hot cairn]

We need cutaways

[hot cairn]

it is yes

[tranquil blade]

I think it's still possible and like it's the best possible way to prevent a 2nd pirate king

[weak wedge]

Yeh

[grand flower]

tbh me valley has validated a bunch of things I thought were coming so I'm feeling this energy more

[ornate tartan]

So Akainu going for the One Piece is what’s gonna finally bring him off that desk to get neg diffed?😂

[ashen perch]

Its silly to me, they're far too late atp as the 4 main competitors are set.

[pine ridge]

I dont think the timeline matches up. jarul was with other giants while preparing to fight. I dont see how he would be taking a call at that moment

[weak wedge]

Idk ask kizaru

[tranquil blade]

I mean Buggy is pretty late too

[ornate tartan]

Kizaru is probably finished in the story

[sage temple]

Shanks began going for the One Piece super late too

[ornate tartan]

don’t see where his character goes from here

[weak wedge]

Yep

[hot cairn]

it’s like what Buggy said, they just need to beat them to the punch, only one poneglyph missing

[pine ridge]

he had a head starts tho

[ashen perch]

Well I don't think Akainu is about to oneshot Shanks to take his rubbings

[digital spear]

Luffy also is late in that sense only 2 years

[ornate tartan]

i can’t see kizaru fighting for the WG ever again
or he’s actually a dog

[tranquil blade]

Well

[sage temple]

Yeah but he started only an arc or 2 ago

[tranquil blade]

Maybe not oneshot

[hot cairn]

But I’m inclined to agree more with you Arsal on this I think, depends on what we see happening outside of Elbaph

[sage temple]

How do we know they don't already have rubbings

[hot cairn]

you love to see it

[sage temple]

What if Imu has summoning circles set on top of Poneglyphs

[pine ridge]

yeah but he was there when roger found all the poneglyphs. oden might've even translated them out loud

[ashen perch]

Shanks had an easy one and thats what leaves him as one of the main competitors, Kid and Law have dropped out

[sage temple]

The WG had exploration vessels before didn't they?

[weak wedge]

Yeh

[tranquil blade]

This wouldn't have been an issue for the government if Imu just made some rubbings back then

[ashen perch]

I don't think Imu is capable of this

He wouldn't be mad at Lili if he was lol

[weak wedge]

Nami is so good

[pine ridge]

I think there's some additional road blocks to make sure someone doesnt just accidentally find it

[hot cairn]

what’s the one mystery you guys are more interested to find out in the story?

mine is the burn scar man

[urban lodge]

Void century in general

[tranquil blade]

mine is the first world

[ashen perch]

Give it uh, 20 more chapters

[weak wedge]

Yeh

[urban lodge]

First world too

[digital spear]

Wtf was happening in the First World honestly

[ashen perch]

Cutaways in 20 chaptera

[still mason]

roger egg

[sage temple]

Imu basically says people like her transcend logic and common sense

[ashen perch]

No but really no

[weak wedge]

No

[vestal heath]

you can always count on Robin

[sage temple]

[ornate tartan]

what could that missing space symbolize

[weak wedge]

I hate that face

[grand flower]

Very similar to Luffy's powers

[weak wedge]

Hii

[grand flower]

Maybe Imu has a Nika fruit

[tranquil blade]

Laughtale

[vestal heath]

hello

[weak wedge]

Best arc

[ashen perch]

Its Laugh Tale yeah

[vestal heath]

u from the future or what

[weak wedge]

[tranquil blade]

Arsal stealing my idea smh

[sleek viper]

On what on Earth is Oda planning with Usopp

[digital spear]

We were all thinking it

[weak wedge]

Oh you love skypiea

[ashen perch]

The left eye of the skull, I've been talking about it for centuries smh

[hot cairn]

yeah the first world is intriguing af too

[tranquil blade]

I'm ngl I'm trolling a tiny bit on that

[weak wedge]

Yep

[vestal heath]

OHHH thought you were referring to laughtale

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-pascal-gif-22055472

[tranquil blade]

I know I wasnt the first cause it was technically some reddit post that a youtuber stole

[weak wedge]

[ornate tartan]

Noland story with Kalgara has a lot of clues

[ashen perch]

Oda is very cheeky about it in Skypiea too, shows Luffy literally winking with his left eye on a cover

[weak wedge]

[urban lodge]

And the redditor stole it from yuderon

[vestal heath]

Everytime I see the word “Reddit” it makes me wanna throw my phone out the window

[digital spear]

And yuderon stole it from me

[tranquil blade]

and you stole it from me

[weak wedge]

You kid

[grand flower]

Did I just get a ghost tag

[digital spear]

This is the cycle

[digital spear]

I hate that

[vestal heath]

what’s a ghost tag

[ashen perch]

Someone once described it perfectly, Oda's foreshadowing is basically him being unable to keep a secret, he just has to hint at bigger stuff that comes on later or he would explode

Skypiea is like filled with this

[vestal heath]

Oh yeah I hate that so much

[digital spear]

You get pinged but they deleted it

[vestal heath]

Ima try that in another server hehe

[pine ridge]

what's the deal with mihawk. we know the burn scar guy and history of the world are important, but mihawk has been there since baratie and we still dont know if he'll even be important outside of being zoros opponent

[sage temple]

No I just replied to you on accident

[hot cairn]

20 more chapters of flashback???

[ashen perch]

[weak wedge]

I am done taking flash back

[digital spear]

I think hes talking about Elbaf as a whole

[ornate tartan]

jaya is also the arc we met teach

[ashen perch]

Nah, 20 till the cutaways

[pulsar path]

Luffy eye and Luffy wings

[digital spear]

Laugh Tale is Joy Boys eye

[ashen perch]

Flashback ends with 1173, Luffy ends with 1183

And then we finally do cutaways, yay

[weak wedge]

I love them

[digital spear]

Do they love you

[tranquil blade]

Arc ends on 1230

[urban lodge]

I preemptively feel bad for Arisu because she's getting muted for 6 months for sure

[hot cairn]

good one

[sage temple]

What bet

[ashen perch]

Yea the wings are important as well, I believe Dragon's mother is gonna be a sky islander

[digital spear]

Wait when did this happen

[urban lodge]

Elbaf ends by 1194

[grand flower]

Oh okay gang just don’t do it again

[tranquil blade]

Exactly 1230

[weak wedge]

Oh

[hot cairn]

nah he thinks Elbaph will be like 100 chapters long

[ashen perch]

Not ready unfortunately

[pulsar path]

Because tritoma is luffys mom ?

[pine ridge]

dragon is always wearing a coat to hide his wings

[digital spear]

He now said the cutaways will just start later than the flashback ends

[hot cairn]

yeah absolutely

[sage temple]

Uh egghead

[ornate tartan]

that would mean elbaph ends in 2028😂😂😂😂

[hot cairn]

Elbaph is def getting to the 1200

I think

[digital spear]

It might

[tranquil blade]

Wait how many chapters away is 1230

[hot cairn]

ahh

[sweet anvil]

Just kill me atp bro

[ashen perch]

Lmao

[sweet anvil]

3 years in elbaf

[tranquil blade]

I mean I guess that makes sense tho

[hot cairn]

LOL

[weak wedge]

Asap lol

[digital spear]

70

[hot cairn]

3 years in Elbaph

[sage temple]

Ngl we might get a Loki focused chapter on 1300

[hot cairn]

70 chapters

[ashen perch]

Nah, because Oda depicted him with wings in that cover

[sweet anvil]

If we’re in elbaf for 3 years the final war will be 7 years

[digital spear]

1230 is more like end of 2027

So 2 years

[ornate tartan]

from this moment in time 67
Oda usually releases 36-37 chapters a year with his current schedule

[ashen perch]

Im not gonna lie

[hot cairn]

no

[blazing mantle]

Isn’t that like a year and a half if Oda takes 0 breaks

[ornate tartan]

yeah late 2027

[ashen perch]

100 is the lower estimate

[digital spear]

People are warming up to 100 years of Ebaf

[hot cairn]

LOL

[digital spear]

Chapters

[tranquil blade]

Oh, yeah I remember 67 chapters

[pulsar path]

Oh no I was wondering why Luffy mom couldnt have been a wing person tho

[digital spear]

Egghead was 67 chapters

[ashen perch]

When I say hundred, I think its atleast going to be a hundred chapters

[hot cairn]

68 actually

[sweet anvil]

I know what you’re doing I just can’t prove it

[tranquil blade]

Huh

[sweet anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-doakes-curious-suspicious-questioning-gif-14390669560130901665

Nvm

[ornate tartan]

egghead took 2 years
elbaph currently has been going on for 1 year

[hot cairn]

LOL

[tranquil blade]

I'm serious

[hot cairn]

that’s so funny man

[digital spear]

A scholar deduced Elbaf ends on 1245

[ornate tartan]

I say Elbaph ends late 2026

[tranquil blade]

I chose 1230 because it's close to Elbaph being 100 chapters overall

[sage temple]

Loki power foreshadowing at chapter 130?

Introduced 1130 and powers foreshadowed on 130

[ashen perch]

Oh yea, i do believe Tritoma is Luffy's mother so its gotta be his grandmother instead

[sweet anvil]

This is dragon foreshadowing

[ornate tartan]

final war is going to be longer then elbaph

[sweet anvil]

Cmon bro

[hot cairn]

Who was that scholar

[maiden charm]

Elbaf should be long

[ornate tartan]

lodestar will be like 25 chapters

[sage temple]

Nah it's Loki

Loki's number is 13

[digital spear]

Idk it was just some guy tbh

[weak wedge]

Oh

[ashen perch]

1230 is 104 chapters, I can see it

[sweet anvil]

Cyclone > wind > wragon

[hot cairn]

people have been saying that about every arc since zou

[urban lodge]

I actually want 100 chapter Elbaf now

[hot cairn]

Short arcs are just not happening anymore

[sage temple]

Cyclone > Weather > Lightning > Ragnir > Loki

[ashen perch]

I'm thinking 100 minimum, 140 maximum

[weak wedge]

Yep

[tranquil blade]

I hate to say it I really did choose 1230 cause it's 67 chapters from now and that number has invaded my mind

[sweet anvil]

Reaching for the skies

[maiden charm]

300

[weak wedge]

I used to love short arcs

[hot cairn]

why

[sweet anvil]

I knew it

[ashen perch]

Jesus isn't ready for the next arc to be a short one, because he hasn't studied the way of inversions

[hot cairn]

Jesuschrist

he’s serious

[weak wedge]

[tranquil blade]

Again with the inversions

[digital spear]

Holy based

[hot cairn]

fuck inversions

[tranquil blade]

Which inversion are we on again?

[urban lodge]

There's just so much to cover and I hope Oda takes his time with it

[sweet anvil]

If we’re in elbaf for 18 more months I will go to Japan and have a very personal meeting with oda

[ashen perch]

FMI

[digital spear]

Fish my island

[pulsar path]

What's the big difference between saga and arc I mean for dragon ball they kidna were the same thing

[sweet anvil]

i MIGHT just have to intervene

[tranquil blade]

Wasn't last arc an inversion on Sabaody

[digital spear]

18 months isnt that long

Just 40 more chapters

[tranquil blade]

Why did we jump to FMI

[hot cairn]

Arsal says FMI but then says the next arc will be a Amazon Lily inversion

[tranquil blade]

WHAT

[hot cairn]

hes jumping around the rules

[urban lodge]

As long as it's not Wano length

[maiden charm]

A saga means multiple arcs in one piece. In Dragonball it doesn't

[digital spear]

The war saga is the final war saga

[urban lodge]

Dressrosa length is fine

[ashen perch]

If we're in Elbaf for 18 more months, I will go to Japan and have a very personal meeting with Oda as well and I can't finish this thought actually but I mean this in the sweetest way possible

[maiden charm]

True

[pulsar path]

But who makes these rules!!!!

[weak wedge]

Yep

[sweet anvil]

Wait I mean 18 months from January so more like 2 years

[sage temple]

13 is Loki's number tho

[sweet anvil]

3 years in egghead and nearly another 3 for elbaf

[maiden charm]

I'm just the messenger!

[hot cairn]

yeah he’s reaching

[pine ridge]

the summit war saga was amazon lily-marineford for example

[sweet anvil]

Oda plans on writing ts until 2032

[hot cairn]

2 years in Egghead actually

[digital spear]

Oh I see. So more like 67 chapters

[pulsar path]

But where do the rules come from!!!

[ashen perch]

Sabaody actually

[maiden charm]

X2

[pulsar path]

Shadow government !

[hot cairn]

inversions aren’t real

wake up

[tranquil blade]

Ever since Oda cucked Shiki out of that spread I've been losing it (and I don't like saying that word)

[maiden charm]

Fuck, u got me

[sweet anvil]

I will lowkey be a grown ass man by time one piece ends

In 7 years I’ll be 25

[pine ridge]

close enough

[sweet anvil]

Oda needs to pick up the pace buddy

[digital spear]

I woke up on the wrong side of bed, inversions are real

[urban lodge]

I'm fine with this flashback being quite a bit longer too but I need one more Gunko appearance to survive it