also-manga

[wet condor]

That's not his primary motivation yeah

[weak wedge]

Nothing hurts me

[sweet anvil]

He just wants power and wants to take down the wg for that power

[prisma yacht]

It's the same as xebec probably

[wet condor]

Big doubt anyways

[prisma yacht]

Omg the more we talk about bb the more I love him

[hazy turret]

We don’t know but it’s silly to write it off. It’s really not like we know all that much anyways

[brittle basin]

I think it plays at least some part.

[urban lodge]

Ew

[stone terrace]

this is kanjuro v2

[weak wedge]

Yep

[prisma idol]

Ugly ass baby

[prisma yacht]

My goat

[sweet anvil]

bb mogs CDs 🙏

[brittle basin]

You are now on BB's list.

[ashen perch]

I think its just not in character for him, the guy was baffled by the idea of Ace or WB wanting to avenge Thatch. He was acting like he did nothing wrong in front of them lol, like he was doing ACE a favor by telling him that he can join him

[prisma idol]

[urban lodge]

Ugly baby vs greedy baby

[sage temple]

Loki checks all the boxes he's a true adam

[sweet anvil]

“Just have 2 dfs”

[stone terrace]

chopped since day 1

ggz neph

[sage temple]

Hunter skull

[alpine trench]

Sorry I didn’t see this but no I read TCB this week because I won’t be free on Sunday

[ashen perch]

BB seems motivated by power and glory more than anything, not revenge, revenge as a concept doesnt even seem to properly register in his brain

[weak wedge]

[sage temple]

Positive Canthal tilt

[prisma idol]

What would shamrock be

[sweet anvil]

0 harmony and appeal 💔

[pulsar timber]

All he talks about is wanting power and the world and he’s just greedy in general. Nothing we’ve seen of him so far has said “this guy is seeking revenge” even after this revelation. He probably holds resentment towards cds but his primary driving factor isn’t gonna be revenge on the cds

[sweet anvil]

Just have red hair 💔

[urban lodge]

Crybaby

[wet condor]

I hadn't considered this Arsal

But you are so right

[weak wedge]

Yep

[pulsar timber]

I see

[wet condor]

That first sentence

All of it

I hadn't finished reading when I responded lol

[stone terrace]

Hes a sociopath

just like robin

[brittle basin]

!speedreader

[tropic nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/164971940648321024/535148418100887562/Lightspeedread.png

[ashen perch]

yeah lol, he has never been one to understand people that are emotionally charged like that, its unlikely that he is like that himself imo

[sage temple]

Generic and non-unique

Positive cheekbone ratio

[sweet anvil]

Robin been acting like she wasn’t involved in causing the civil war of alabasta

[prisma yacht]

It's simple really, his past shaped him and now he wants to achieve what his dad failed to do

[pulsar timber]

Person seeking revenge on the celestial dragons targets and destroys base of only group actively targeting said celestial dragons

[stone terrace]

[sweet anvil]

Not 1 apology for it btw

[hazy turret]

Not to get semantical but avenge is different from revenge. And also I don’t think BB is explicitly thinking “I’m gonna get my revenge”. I think that through his actions, wanting to hurt the world the same way it hurt him would be considered such

[stone terrace]

That vivi and robin meeting will be awkwaaaaaaaaard (vivi will forgive her instantly)

[brittle basin]

She's hot, so it's OK.

[sweet anvil]

She looks like every other one piece girl

[brittle basin]

She's hot.

[pulsar timber]

I’m doubtful he’s going this for his dad because I think the world stopped being a primary goal for him if at all after he met his wife and had Teech. But I think they’re just similar in personaility enough to go for the same thing

[brittle basin]

gg ez

[ornate tartan]

Robin never had a family to raise her like Blackbeard she’s def not the same morally

[blazing depot]

Crocodile made her do it

[ornate tartan]

robin only did those things because she thought it’s the only way she could survive

[blazing depot]

She needed the security

[stone terrace]

bb didnt get "raised" either he was 2

[formal wagon]

she didn't have to kill everyone on ohara though

[sweet anvil]

Many other options

[sage temple]

Sub 5

[stone terrace]

but robin was already 8 by the time she became a fugitive

[blazing depot]

Socrates who is the hottest OP girl in your opinion

[stone terrace]

Also olvia is not a good mom, just putting that out there

[blazing mantle]

Isn’t she a deadbeat

[formal wagon]

ltb robin vs true eve gloriosa

[stone terrace]

yes

[urban lodge]

Socrates is only attracted to Loki

[sage temple]

Estrid

[sweet anvil]

Trick question

[formal wagon]

am i allowed to say this

[sweet anvil]

They all look alike

[blazing depot]

Of course you pick Loki’s mom

I’m onto you

[sage temple]

She's very attractive bruh

[blazing depot]

She kills babies

Tried to kill

[sweet anvil]

…

[formal wagon]

epic dragon line

[sweet anvil]

Gunko was smuggling kids of elbaf ✌️

[ashen perch]

eh, its not like he wants to destroy the world though, he wants to take it for himself. This would be more accurate of Loki but for BB, it has been purely about power so far.

[sage temple]

True Eve

[sweet anvil]

Someone got it

[sage temple]

Also I wonder how Loki's hair is purple

[rare ivy]

Estrid, BB’s mother and Gunko

[sage temple]

Is that from his mom's side

[pulsar timber]

That’s not really revenge the way one piece treats it thoug. It’s usually targeted at a person or group. I wouldn’t consider Blackbeard wanting to cause harm because of his childhood as a similar thing to Doffy wanting revenge on CDs for example. I think it’s possible Blackbeard as a kid, alone, wanted to do as you say, but the present Blackbeard isn’t driven to harm the world because of how he was treated in my opinion. His character just doesn’t read that way so far

[sage temple]

What's this ranking

Ooo bb's mom is kinda bad ngl

[ashen perch]

the one thing that is weird is him taking out Wang Zhi, I hope that one ends up being purely about wanting to take Hachinosu

[pulsar timber]

Can’t wait for the 15 chapter gunko flashback

What else would it be

[sage temple]

😴

[ashen perch]

and not some bs like "oh he somehow figured out that Wang Zhi betrayed Rocks"

that would be silly

[pulsar timber]

I truly don’t think that’ll be the case

His present character just isn’t written to make you think at so far at least

[blazing depot]

I mean you can put two and two together

[ashen perch]

yea, its unlikely but if Oda really leans into the whole revenge angle, I can see it lmao

I just hope not

[pulsar timber]

He wants a pirate utopia so why not build it at the famous pirate island

[blazing depot]

Rocks is dead and somehow this fatass is in charge of Fullalead

[prisma yacht]

Nah it's definitely more than that

[pulsar timber]

Given Blackbeard has been in his mind since damn near the beginning I don’t think he’s gonna go the revenge angle

[ornate tartan]

can blackbeard do 5 sit-ups

[formal wagon]

Elbaf is gonna have so many flashbacks 😭 we've got this crap, gunko/ brook flashback, Eustass flashback, Banchina/ Usopp flashback, Jarul/ noland flashback etc

[ashen perch]

true

[pulsar timber]

I think people are over worrying

[urban lodge]

Can't wait for Eris to write down a journal with a bunch of instructions for Teach to follow

[formal wagon]

i think people are under worrying

you all need to be freaking out

[ashen perch]

yea I agree but we'll see

[formal wagon]

feel anxious feel anxious feel anxious feel anxious

[blazing depot]

Put more respect on Dadan

[pulsar timber]

Honestly, wouldn’t be surprised if he saw his past as a quirk of fate the way he be talking

[stone terrace]

she was a meanie at first

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/sweating-nervous-wreck-gif-12986085083782148824

[formal wagon]

hiriluk and kureha both beat the fuck out of chopper

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/squid-game-squid-game-celebration-gi-hun-gif-13363209825821116414

[formal wagon]

[pulsar timber]

Oden should be up a tier. He was with his kids their whole life and only got cut short because he made a bad decision as a leader. As a father though he was good

[warm fossil]

oda's greatest mistake was having chopper join the crew instead of kureha

[formal wagon]

oda's greatest mistake was luffy

[pulsar timber]

No more old people

[formal wagon]

that guy sucks

[warm fossil]

if brook's bum ass is allowed kureha is welcomed in

[formal wagon]

and robin

she's old too

[wet condor]

Roger at the bottom though

[pulsar timber]

Kureha got 50 years on brook

[wet condor]

And for a sec I was thinking "why is Shanks even here" but then remembered Uta

[prisma yacht]

[brittle basin]

we never saw kureha in this flashback. sad days

[wet condor]

Oden can go up one yea

[formal wagon]

banchina that low when she did actually nothing wrong is frying me

[sage temple]

Oda's redemption was Loki

[stone terrace]

she didnt do anything right really

theres stiff competition here bub

[formal wagon]

Her position is like exactly the same as Sora's

whos at the top

[warm fossil]

wtf is sengoku doing on the tierlist

[stone terrace]

sora validated sanjis existence

[pulsar timber]

Cora’s step dad

[formal wagon]

thats not a good thing

[urban lodge]

And Drake

[stone terrace]

banchina lied to usopp about his dad not being a dickhead

😭

[wet condor]

I almost forgot too but, yeah. Being Roci's stepdad

[warm fossil]

i guess

[brittle basin]

sora said she loved his food too

[formal wagon]

Sora only did well by one of her kids
and in doing that she made him suffer extreme abuse from the rest of their family

[pulsar timber]

How is an AI a good parent

[brittle basin]

the rest sucked though. gg. ez.

[warm fossil]

usopp's mom being below bege is certainly a take

and no i don't remember her name

[formal wagon]

Banchina lying to usopp and Sora lying about sanji's food are effectively the same thing parenting wise

[pulsar timber]

No

[brittle basin]

and they both died

[urban lodge]

She should be below Bege

Bege is awesome

[brittle basin]

Bege should be at the top

criminal or not, that is a family-oriented man

[wet condor]

What's keeping Bege from being top tier again?

[warm fossil]

does sanji's mom have any feats

[pulsar timber]

Yes

[warm fossil]

why is she in the highest tier

[formal wagon]

sucking

no idea

[stone terrace]

bege doesnt really have any standout moments

hes just a good dad

[warm fossil]

his standout moment is letting his kid smoke

[brittle basin]

Sanji's mom could stomach his awful food. Conqueror's coating easily

[wet condor]

I guess that's kind of true lol

[pulsar timber]

That’s valid though

[wet condor]

You can just tell he's solid

[urban lodge]

It's a pacifier smh

[wet condor]

But he doesn't have any exemplary dad feats

[leaden rivet]

Yeah she’s a horrible mom

[brittle basin]

By One Piece parenting standards, having a caring wife and a child who loves you and whom you love and do baby talk with IS an exemplary feat

[rare ivy]

Xebec’s domi reversi was different
Dorry, Brogy and giants were sucked inside the hell/ other dimension and then came back bigger as reversed monsters
On the other hand, Xebec was just tentacle diffed and started converting to the reversed monster

[brittle basin]

imu can probably just do it multiple ways

[warm fossil]

there are like 3 functioning families in one piece at best so you're right

[leaden rivet]

Name them

[brittle basin]

Bege low diffs with the baby talk. No one else does that.

[willow pollen]

Mr 9

[brittle basin]

BM's family is quite functioning now that I think about it.

it's weird, but it functions mostly like a well-oiled machine.

[warm fossil]

stelly's family bege's yeah no i don't have any more in me

[ornate tartan]

so who tf is this😂🙏🏽

[brittle basin]

The origins of a retcon

[urban lodge]

What we should have gotten

[brittle basin]

or that is still his mom but as she got older

[urban lodge]

But Oda just had to make her hot 😔

[willow pollen]

Who’s luffys grandmother

[stone terrace]

Eris if she survived

[rare ivy]

These siblings have very weird relationships amongst themselves

[ashen perch]

maybe Eris was supposed to survive yea

well actually

[brittle basin]

she's still alive. for now.

[warm fossil]

roger

[ashen perch]

she hasnt died yet

but yknow

[brittle basin]

i guess, but when reading WCI I noticed that there is some genuine love and care between them

[urban lodge]

I'd be ok with her surviving if she actually sucked and fed into Teach's evil

[rare ivy]

True that

[brittle basin]

"OK teech, I'm gonna show you how to get revenge"

[warm fossil]

you ever think about the fact that roger and garp are like the same age and yet garp's grandson is basically the same age as roger's son

[wet condor]

Yeah

It is kind of weird to think about lol

Def have before

[ornate tartan]

garp became a father very young for one piece standards

had dragon when he was 23

[brittle basin]

who is Garp's wife?

[wet condor]

Lmaoooo

I'm kind of laughing

Because I just did the math too

And so Garp went into the military right around when he had Dragon

I don't know what to make of that

[brittle basin]

he pawned Dragon off

[warm fossil]

we'll see her face half shadowed in one panel in dragon's flashback and not get any more info than that ever

[wet condor]

Avoiding his responsibilities as a father or trying to make a living for his new family

[brittle basin]

plot twist: Imu is Garp's wife

he was saving face last chapter by pretending to hate her

[rare ivy]

Avoiding responsibilities

[ashen perch]

that reminds me of the theory that he married Xebec's sister

all because Dragon kinda looked like Rocks to this one guy

actually, he was adamant that Rocks was the father at first lmao

but settled at the sister thing

[rare ivy]

Davy D & Monkey D marriage

[ashen perch]

I am sure we'll see Dragon's mother though, she will be a sky islander

[lofty fern]

No woman would tolerate Garp. Dragon was born through binary fisson

[trim lily]

the entire monkey line reproduces asexually

theres no other explanation

[willow pollen]

Idiots not saying anything 😭

[urban lodge]

I wish they used the blue lightning the anime used

[trim lily]

yeah i prefer blue to yellow

[urban lodge]

I don't like yellow lightning

[stone terrace]

blue is better indeed

[lofty fern]

I could see Dragon getting a girl. he's got a kind heart and good sense of responsibility

[stone terrace]

instead of piss beams

[trim lily]

i feel hes the kind of guy to put his job above all else though

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/enel-eneru-one-piece-el-thor-beam-gif-23910855

[ornate tartan]

Enel was a good character

[lofty fern]

If he was that, he wouldn't have rescued shanks and sham

He'd be Garp

[willow pollen]

I think he means the current job

[urban lodge]

Oda I beg you, I need Enel and Imu to meet

[willow pollen]

The revo thing

Like with Ginny

[lofty fern]

Even there he puts others lives ahead

[urban lodge]

https://x.com/BoneheadBuggy/status/1982013705245077679

Severen 🍉 (@BoneheadBuggy)

Red vs. Blue x2!
(Only Buggy would make Shanks do all the work.)

X · Oct 25, 2025, 9:17 AM

[lofty fern]

They're going to be an adorable quartet

[formal wagon]

they're not red and green but they still have christmas cavalier vibes

now i'm thinking about that guy who makes the grid based one piece srpg art

that'd be so peak

[lofty fern]

It would be hilarious if Gunko is like Buggy's great aunt

[formal wagon]

that would be fun

[glass plume]

https://tenor.com/view/sml-joseph-cheese-balls-oh-man-these-cheese-balls-are-good-eating-cheese-balls-gif-26509707

[lofty fern]

Buggy is actually a manmeyer

[formal wagon]

https://x.com/lv5plant/status/1962055044616114625/photo/1

PLANT // (@lv5plant)

If you've made it this far, thanks for reading!

TLDR, i didnt like the direction my project was going so im restarting it lol. Hopefully I'm not making a huge mistake.

More "OP Tactics" coming soon!

X · Aug 31, 2025, 7:29 AM

oh wait they're called trpgs not srpgs

tactical vs strategy

[glass plume]

that looks cool

[wraith mantle]

i cant wait for next chapter

[formal wagon]

https://x.com/lv5plant/status/1865389042847944861/photo/1 one piece has some really iconic scenes that translate super well in this person's style

PLANT // (@lv5plant)

vs T Bone

#onepiece

X · Dec 7, 2024, 1:32 PM

[glass plume]

i want to play it

[stone terrace]

reminds me of this game

nostalgia bomb

[hazy echo]

https://fixupx.com/uroko_oo/status/1981910635727495438/en

鳴瀬うろこ🐟 (@uroko_oo)

📑 Translated from Japanese

【Work】ONE PIECE Card Game Extra Booster "ONE PIECE Heroines Edition [EB-03]" I was in charge of the illustration for "Trafalgar Law" included in this set ✨ #ワンピースカードゲーム #ワンピカード

Original text
【お仕事】ONE PIECEカードゲーム
︀︀エクストラブースター『ONE PIECE Heroines Edition【EB-03】』収録
︀︀ 「トラファルガー・ロー」のイラスト担当いたしました✨
︀︀
︀︀ #ワンピースカードゲーム #ワンピカード

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FixupX · Oct 25, 2025, 2:28 AM

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/barking-dogs-barking-angry-guard-dog-the-dobermann-gif-19955262

[mighty shell]

stop that

[scenic dirge]

fem law was a momentous occassion

[frigid gulch]

T-Bone vs Fishbonen

[olive sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/puke-vomit-nausea-nauseous-jim-carrey-gif-6414990571697035561

[dense rapids]

If Imu is the Florian Triangle what do you think he’s using the pirates for

Waiting for Oda to just have brook drop insane lore he’s been holding

[vital heart]

Can I ask a question

Who here is excited for 1164 ?

[warm fossil]

yknow its been quite a while i need to get an update on the current state of mihawk vs shanks debates

what are we looking at

[graceful belfry]

Holy grail

[graceful belfry]

Mihawk wins

[frail kindle]

I'm quitting one piece

[sage temple]

Loki upscale incoming

[trim lily]

i suspect the long awaited weevil cutaway starts next chapter

[stray prism]

i cant wait to see how lame domi reversi is

[trim lily]

this seems like the right point to do it

[sage temple]

Hope that fuckass origin theory gets disproven

[hot cairn]

origin theory?

[sage temple]

Where DR only effects people that originated from the area

[hot cairn]

ahhh

[lofty fern]

https://tenor.com/view/harry-osborn-the-amazing-spider-man-2-dane-dehaan-question-question-of-the-day-gif-2306144765068389181

[lofty fern]

I think it's a blood contract. Imu pierced Xebec to get his blood and seal his fate

[elfin oak]

is there a sea god

in one piece

[formal wagon]

🙂‍↔️ nope

[sage temple]

Did Imu stab the dream demons?

[lofty fern]

According o the Harley, yes

[sage temple]

Do the dream things even have blood

[elfin oak]

so can fight Imu

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/thinking-looking-at-cellphone-man-thinking-statue-watching-cellphone-pondering-gif-9133796110692465311

[elfin oak]

if you don't have blood

[prisma yacht]

So you're worried about loki getting domi reverse'd

[elfin oak]

you can win

[sage temple]

No idea what you're talking about

[lofty fern]

Doesn't have to, only the originator needs to be sealed with the contract. Everyone else gets infected by the original "patient 0"

[elfin oak]

it's impossible that everyone gets domi reversed, it'd become boring

[sage temple]

Interesting

[elfin oak]

so something will happen

[prisma yacht]

Loki getting dr would be lame tho

[elfin oak]

yes

too lame to be a duck

[lofty fern]

Imu seems to actual limit himself in that he only does it when he feels its worth it. Everyone else there isn't even worth his time

[wet heron]

[wet heron]

v cool

[proud pivot]

I think imu is

[elfin oak]

imagine if this duck

[proud pivot]

a really bad person

[elfin oak]

gets domi reversed

[ornate tartan]

demon karoo

[proud pivot]

My favourite character

[elfin oak]

he could also get domi reversed

[hot cairn]

how many times are you sending this panel

[elfin oak]

1 time a week

[proud pivot]

Zoro more like three sword style

[lofty fern]

Have you seen Garling's duck? it would be like that

[elfin oak]

you mean this duck

[lofty fern]

evil birds

[elfin oak]

did vivi take the duck with her

[lofty fern]

no

[graceful belfry]

No

[prisma yacht]

no

[wet heron]

📠 You can see even Garp flipped over and helped out Rocks and Roger in the face of absolute evil.

Next chapter Rocks probably asks Roger and Garp to defeat him so he doesn’t hurt his own family which he is being forced to do so by demonic forces …

[elfin oak]

I am worried for the duck

where is the duck

[formal wagon]

shamrock is a vivi parrallel?

[elfin oak]

yes

[formal wagon]

[lofty fern]

Karoo is in alabasta

[formal wagon]

whats he doing there

[graceful belfry]

I’m curious how Karoo would taste

[indigo yacht]

Roasted

[frozen ravine]

Karoo would be a busted mount if he learned rokushiki

[elfin oak]

he has a family now

with 4 children

[frail kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/groundhog-groundhog-eating-gif-27654631

[blazing depot]

Karoo’s racist uncle

[royal orchid]

guys what does this art mean

[proud pivot]

Omg wth 😭

[proud pivot]

I’d smoke everyone in this picture

[prisma yacht]

A proper gang

[blazing depot]

Gunko is mogging

[proud pivot]

That’s funny I just read it

[blazing depot]

Gunko is my favorite senior citizen

[sleek plume]

Manmayer Buggy is real

[royal orchid]

glue...

better than nerona buggy

[lofty fern]

Imu's destroys everyone at Elbaph and is about to kill them all, but then Vivi arrives trying to join up with the SHs and Imu's like.... "Sorry, Mu will let mine servants take care of thee., Farewell"
Vivi gets yoinked.

[lofty fern]

There's going to be so much fun as a group at parties

[graceful belfry]

Sorry, I’m really hungry rn

[lofty fern]

I mean, he knows her name is Vivi lol

[proud pivot]

I don’t think Vivi will change anything and yes I do think the straw hats finna get destroyed unless imu becomes a black figure and zoros instincts turn on and he smokes her

Apart from the Zoro part the straw hats prolly getting destrkyed unless they discover a secret tool to combat imu

[blazing depot]

Vivi…

[proud pivot]

but idk imu seems like some next level one for all of one piece

Or all for one I forgot the bad guys name from MHA

[lofty fern]

he wants the Vivi

[proud pivot]

Is this real???

[lofty fern]

Yes

[proud pivot]

oh dam I haven’t seen the

That

What’s he gonna do with her

Marry her or some shit

[rose rune]

Use her as fuel

[proud pivot]

Maybe imu is her mommy

[blazing depot]

Neckbeard Imu stocks

Invest now

[proud pivot]

fuel for what a goddam engine

[hot cairn]

yep chapter 1086

[blazing depot]

Chudmu

[royal orchid]

at this point a part of me is convinced joyboy stole Imu's girl Lili

[rose rune]

Maybe fertilizer for the garden

[proud pivot]

Haha yes

[urban lodge]

Blue hair obsession

[sage temple]

Dude smells like piss the nefertari bloodline rejects his existance

[blazing depot]

Imu = R Kelly

Do you have your passport? Do you have your shots? Do you want to come with Mu to Marijoaaaaaa

[proud pivot]

🤣 🤣

[lofty fern]

It's even animated now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38cWugkJpE0

[proud pivot]

Oh hell nah what the fuh have I been missing

I’m living under a rock

[blazing depot]

I love how the elders don’t even question how weird it is

Yessir Lord Imu glory to the World Gov

[graceful belfry]

😭 😭 😭

[blazing depot]

https://tenor.com/view/r-kelly-is-this-camera-on-me-is-this-thing-on-r-kelly-meme-turn-that-thing-off-gif-27310814

[lofty fern]

Mars (thinking): Lord Imu is so weird.
Imu (in his head): What was that?
Mars: Nothing!

[urban lodge]

Sentenced to 205 more days of standing

[proud pivot]

What’s close exactly?

[lofty fern]

i want to see imu riding Mars into the sky

[lofty fern]

Lulucia

[stone terrace]

Blackbeard did it first

[proud pivot]

Good vision

[royal orchid]

death standing

scratches head

[ornate tartan]

how did imu see eris and teach running all the way in the forest

[lofty fern]

Mars is much more prestigious than a fat man riding a skinny man on an even skinnier horse 🤣

[sage temple]

Age gap of doom

[proud pivot]

Observation haki i think

[lofty fern]

Either very good observation or he can see through the eyes of his knights

[royal orchid]

screenshare telepathy eyes / crazy observation haki / projected vision power

[proud pivot]

Where does imu even get his powers from

[royal orchid]

I would bet on the obs because

Haki for the 90th time

[lofty fern]

https://tenor.com/view/hell-maleficent-sleeping-beauty-disney-villain-goth-gif-16621927

[elfin oak]

Zoro has to beat Imu

to become king of hell

[lofty fern]

He can't even beat google maps, how's he supposed to beat Imu?

[elfin oak]

with this

[gloomy tree]

he should get training from Rainbolt

[lofty fern]

https://tenor.com/view/imu-one-piece-imu-understanding-episode-1119-one-piece-imu-eye-gif-8787553031573569330

[elfin oak]

Zoro has not reached Kuina's level yet

[frozen ravine]

Zoro low diffs kuina

[graceful belfry]

Zoro is such a painfully lost cause with directions. Not even a GPS hooked into his brain could properly get that man on the correct path

[somber rivet]

Are we slander Zoro guys? Pls, continue if you are

[elfin oak]

weird because haki let you sense directions

so his haki is incomplete

[ornate tartan]

grown up Kuina? she would be a menace😂

[lofty fern]

Imu would actually just watch Zoro scurry for his amusement. It would remind him of his butterflies

[elfin oak]

I miss silver mist

[graceful belfry]

Zoro vs. Imu? More like Zoro vs. Pangea Castle

[elfin oak]

I fell it's coming

because Zoro is very loyal to Luffy

so Imu will reverse him first

[lofty fern]

Zoro would get to the flower room by accident

[elfin oak]

like he did with Rocks

Imu will turn loyalty into a weakness

that's why I think Zoro will be targeted first by domi reversi

[lofty fern]

Imu doesn't need too, Zoro's such a non-threat, it's like an ant and a boot

[still mason]

How long do ya'll think the Imu flashback will be?

[elfin oak]

Zoro is second strongest

why not

[lofty fern]

Uh huh

[graceful belfry]

Zoro might get a lick or two in on Imu, sure lol. That really just depends on how Oda goes about the decisive fight with Imu, though

Personally not a fan of the team fights

But I can’t deny their possibilities

[lofty fern]

I can't put Zoro at the level of any of the people that just hit Imu last chapter except maybe Kaido

[urban lodge]

The Imu flashback will probably just be the void century flashback, so pretty long

[elfin oak]

I feel like some drama is coming, like someone will die in straw hat crew

because of Imu

[lofty fern]

Zoro doesn't even know how to use his haki correctly

[elfin oak]

sanji will use conquerors to conquer girls

[trim lily]

[lofty fern]

[prisma yacht]

Personally I'm waiting for the gunko brook lore drop

[scenic dirge]

Yea excited for that too

[lofty fern]

I don't know if Oda will do two flashback arcs in the same arc, but I'd like to see Brook lore

[elfin oak]

Why did Shanks leave Elbaf

didn't he know the dangers the country was facing

[scenic dirge]

Blackbeard

[ornate tartan]

it wouldn’t be longer then 2 chapters I think, or 3

[lofty fern]

No?

[scenic dirge]

He took care of the dangers that the country were currently facing lol

i.e. Kid

[graceful belfry]

Fair enough, but he’s within that bracket for his respective generation. There are four characters from the Worst Generation who come to mind, but I think he’s debatably stronger, or will be stronger, than two of them

[elfin oak]

Kid would have died anyway

against Imu

[lofty fern]

If Shanks can take Kid...Imu would let Sommers take Kid

[fallen meteor]

I was crazy for this #manga message

[warm fossil]

idk what we're arguing about but current zoro is obviously way weaker than any of the people who attacked imu, while eos zoro will be stronger than probably all of them

it's probably close between zoro and god valley rocks but I think he'll have him beat

[lofty fern]

I don't know about all that. I think eos zoro should be happy to maybe get to be Roger level

[graceful belfry]

I don’t even disagree. If not stronger, he’ll at least be beside them in all time convos

[trim lily]

hopefully john is revealed to be a fishman

[warm fossil]

if we're talking prime roger then yes

[graceful belfry]

I’ll take it

[warm fossil]

basically Eos zoro is slightly stronger mihawk

and mihawk is stronger than everyone present there except probably rocks

[lofty fern]

I have Rocks as higher than Roger though, so Imu is STILL taking Zoro out

Uh-huh

Mihawk fans at it again

[tranquil blade]

Well yeah even with eos Zoro Imu is still gonna whoop him

[graceful belfry]

I encourage it

[warm fossil]

I don't gotta argue I just have to wait

[trim lily]

mihawk's power level will always be zoro + 1

[graceful belfry]

Mihawk fans are usually right

[runic dock]

You’re probably right

[elfin oak]

the story will not finish in Elbaf, which means that both Luffy and Imu will survive, which means in turn that something will happen that will put and end to the fight

[trim lily]

unless...

[tranquil blade]

Zoro isn't gonna be close if Luffy can't beat Imu on his own

[warm fossil]

well obviously

zoro is not in the realm of Luffy or imu

[lofty fern]

I need to SEE Mihawk do something, not just lounge on couches

[elfin oak]

Mihawk will open a bar like Shakky

[tranquil blade]

Also you're pushing it with Zoro over all of those 6, lowkey I could see at least 3 if not 4 of them being stronger than eos Zoro

[warm fossil]

but as far as people who are not imu joyboy Luffy (and probably eos BB) zoros might beat everyone it's pretty close

[lofty fern]

Oh yeah, forgot. Strongest being in OP: Shakky.

[warm fossil]

being stronger than mihawk is a very very high bar

[tranquil blade]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-i-show-speed-speed-stream-speed-thinking-gif-4948168091398377042

[prisma yacht]

20+ years yet no feat

[elfin oak]

why does Imu even need mother flame if he is so strong?

[tranquil blade]

Well uh

[warm fossil]

to easily nuke places

[trim lily]

its useful

[tranquil blade]

Long range weapon

[elfin oak]

clearly there are limitations in his abilities, that's why he needs mother flame

[trim lily]

imu cant exactly blow up an island right now

especially not without being there

[warm fossil]

I mean obviously the guys gonna lose

can't just be all powerful

[tranquil blade]

If the counter to Imu is the yami and the nika fruit I might crash out a little

[trim lily]

you know it will be

[warm fossil]

extremely high likelihood

[trim lily]

i cant wait for blackbeard and luffy to put their differences aside to fight a common enemy

[urban lodge]

Yeah prepare yourself right now, it's better

[blazing depot]

How is this build even possible

[strong wadi]

i mean the nika fruit one is guaranteed

[elfin oak]

Gaban has to know the counter

he know what the one piece is

[formal wagon]

weekly sit ups

[trim lily]

his poor legs

[elfin oak]

so he knows how to counter Imu

[warm fossil]

vista will kill Blackbeard, get his fruit, then together with Luffy will beat imu

[graceful belfry]

The Xebec/two fruits plotline essentially cements the importance of the Nika and Yami fruits in the mission to take down Imu and the current WG regime

[tranquil blade]

https://tenor.com/view/azryde-streamer-tweaking-crash-out-gif-15284093283734329768

[warm fossil]

I mean idk what's really better than the fruits option

[trim lily]

i wouldnt mind if they can just beat imu

[warm fossil]

id take that any day over simple overpowering

[graceful belfry]

Nothing. Haki is easily worse

[warm fossil]

especially after this display

[cunning narwhal]

never done a leg day in his life 😭

[trim lily]

regen enemy moment

[fallen meteor]

Analog horror be like

[spice cairn]

https://x.com/BoneheadBuggy/status/1982013705245077679?t=od9SNDRMw_lKXrPrd8GnEg&s=19

Severen 🍉 (@BoneheadBuggy)

Red vs. Blue x2!
(Only Buggy would make Shanks do all the work.)

X · Oct 25, 2025, 9:17 AM

[warm fossil]

who wasted their time making this

[spice cairn]

Im glad Big Mom was included with the big boys

[fast pagoda]

TRUE

[spice cairn]

Someone who isnt employed

[trim lily]

we need more of the gunko and shamrock dynamic duo

[fast pagoda]

BC SHE ONE OF THEM

SHE A LEGEND

[warm fossil]

meanwhile shiki

[spice cairn]

She was always part of the quad

[trim lily]

shiki is having fun :)

[warm fossil]

daily reminder that shiki is not a real character

[spice cairn]

Glad Oda confirmed it.

[fast pagoda]

Glorified cameo of a character

[blazing depot]

Bad day to be a Shiki fan

[trim lily]

the fact that hes appearing at all makes it a good day

[fallen meteor]

Pinkukapybara

[spice cairn]

Shiki was included because he felt bad for "Shikiweedeveryday420" on Reddit, who kept writing SBSes begging for his existence to be acknowledged.

[blazing depot]

He’s part of the lower tier, simping for Shakky and doing betrayals

[cunning narwhal]

shiki will dodge the bogger and one tap ganzui

[tranquil blade]

Is that really worse

[warm fossil]

yes

[tranquil blade]

You're not a real character

[blazing depot]

https://tenor.com/view/room-betray-tommy-wiseau-everybody-betray-me-gif-12074088

[steel stirrup]

Oh hi Mark

[trim lily]

i feel like nika and yami being the only counter to imu is just overpowering with a new coat of paint

[warm fossil]

because it means luffys getting 48 times stronger in the next 8 days

[trim lily]

instead of anyone being able to hurt imu only two characters can

[tranquil blade]

I mean he's done this before

[spice cairn]

Its very unfortunate but it is what it is.

[urban lodge]

The two fruits is still better than haki

[steel stirrup]

Name em

[spice cairn]

We all saw it coming

[steel stirrup]

What

[trim lily]

luffy and blackbeard

[warm fossil]

and he will again just not on that scale

[steel stirrup]

[spice cairn]

What with the what

[trim lily]

nah ill take haki over it

[fallen meteor]

Marx you are so rare to see these days

[trim lily]

at least with haki that opens it up to more people

[tranquil blade]

Haki has to be at least like part of it

[spice cairn]

Tbf Marin work kicks my ass

[steel stirrup]

Saw what coming

[spice cairn]

Also I got into another Manga while this chapter was releasing

[fallen meteor]

Let us kick your work back

[warm fossil]

it opens it up for people stronger than prime rocks lol

[blazing depot]

Shiki career summary

• was Shakky’s top paypig
• fights Roger 100 men to 1
• loses
• crashes out after learning Roger is getting executed
• arrested immediately
• breaks out of prison
• does nothing for 20 years
• gets beat by thriller bark Luffy before he can do shit with his mutant animals

[warm fossil]

which is still the same 2 characters

[tranquil blade]

We already know people stronger than prime rocks exists

[cunning narwhal]

"they are not immortal" he says, while the way to "bypass" regen is only temporary 😭

[spice cairn]

Yami and Nika being true counters against Imu possibly being a real meme

[steel stirrup]

You forgot the part where he beat every Marine on the island and Sengoku and Garp had to jump him

[spice cairn]

Not like a fake meme like Crocmom

Like an actual meme

[warm fossil]

sure but none of them are gonna be helping Luffy in the fight against imu

[tranquil blade]

Like let's be real Joyboy is gonna make almost every pirate we've seen so far look like a plumber

[steel stirrup]

Oh, trueeee

[elfin oak]

he know what the one piece is

[blazing depot]

IT WAS ROGERS EXECUTION WEEK. IT WAS THEIR 9-5 THEY HAD TO BE THERE

[fast pagoda]

Can any of yall name both of Shiki crewmates without google

[elfin oak]

he has to know how to beat Imu

[cunning narwhal]

last part was toei fanfiction

[elfin oak]

Gaban is the key

[steel stirrup]

They still got that ass beat

[fast pagoda]

Serious question

[spice cairn]

The week where Roger became a page One victim

[tranquil blade]

Indigo and uh

[steel stirrup]

Idgaf

[spice cairn]

Literally

[trim lily]

theres the doctor, the monkey(?) and the chemist lady

[steel stirrup]

Them niggas coulda called in sick

[trim lily]

oh indigo

[fallen meteor]

Dr uhh fuchsia idk qnd the monkey

[blazing depot]

Oda wrote it brother

[spice cairn]

Doc Indigo

[fallen meteor]

Indigoooo yeahhh

[steel stirrup]

Shiki had to get jumped by two top tiers to be locked up stop it

[trim lily]

wait no chemist lady was 3d2y

[cunning narwhal]

oda fanfiction

[trim lily]

those movies blend together in my mind

[fast pagoda]

Fake ass crew bruh

[tranquil blade]

He might actually be 10x stronger than Roger unironically

[cunning narwhal]

shiki realisticly would whoop pts luffy's ass oda only had him lose cause its a non canon movie

[trim lily]

what if joyboy sucked

[blazing depot]

Are you sure about that

[steel stirrup]

What if you stfu

[blazing depot]

Remember Moria clashed with Kaido

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/masuka-dexter10-dexter-dexter-gi-fs-masuka-gif-6073014

[blazing depot]

Same logic

[trim lily]

thats a good what if

[fast pagoda]

We saw his Haki

[urban lodge]

Joyboy is gonna be even worse than Rocks

[tranquil blade]

The ship sailed on that in Egghead

[spice cairn]

Notice how Shiki isn't included with the elite 4

[prisma yacht]

Shiki is irrelevant
Why even talk about him

[steel stirrup]

Fear it

Dread it

Run from it

[fallen meteor]

Huh

[trim lily]

nah haki is like wine, it needed to age over time

[elfin oak]

haki is like red bull

[warm fossil]

at that level surely his haki would knock out kizaru lol

[tranquil blade]

We saw Joyboy's haki and how powerful it was he can't suck

[steel stirrup]

Joyboy stocks gon pay off soon I have no doubt

[blazing depot]

People were swearing he was top 3 in the rocks crew

[cunning narwhal]

moria let himself go tho. the loss of his crew broke him. shiki hasnt experienced anything like that

[fallen meteor]

Ohhh

[golden valley]

•wrong
•was a draw
•arrested after a tough fight
•non-canon event

[sage temple]

Shiki soon

[tranquil blade]

Well no

[urban lodge]

He's gonna be glazed like no character has ever been glazed before

[steel stirrup]

You dont seem very happy

[tranquil blade]

but it would press him

[steel stirrup]

How dare you

[urban lodge]

Hey as long as he's not a Luffy clone

[golden valley]

Good

[cunning narwhal]

the hierarchy is rocks, wb, shiki. nothing about the recent chapters changed that

[frozen ravine]

You left out he was an equal to Silver Axe, whose fears include

[fallen meteor]

Joyboy glazing makes sense

[steel stirrup]

Honey you got a big storm coming

[wet condor]

The one person who might be stronger than Imu

[warm fossil]

at the end of the day penny joyboy is not gonna be perfect

[fast pagoda]

I thought Joyboy knocking out VAs was too far but I totally understand it now

[warm fossil]

he made some mistake that Luffy doesn't make that made him lose

[tranquil blade]

Joyboy is gonna be the lebron james of the story

[steel stirrup]

Rocks is perfect

Why not Joyboy too?

[urban lodge]

It's gonna be some bullshit

[blazing depot]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-gif-13808018390071406284

[fallen meteor]

Trusted too much or something like that

[urban lodge]

Another Oden situation

[fallen meteor]

He was too good to evil people

[steel stirrup]

I love Oden

[urban lodge]

Whatever led to his loss is not gonna be a real flaw

[tranquil blade]

Imu had to jump Joyboy to win

[formal wagon]

[tranquil blade]

What does this mean'

Explain yourself

[fallen meteor]

Disgust

[warm fossil]

it kinda has to be a real flaw for the whole story to work I'm ngl

[steel stirrup]

The only reason Rocks is here is because of his flaw

[formal wagon]

[wet condor]

You might be right

[steel stirrup]

Joyboy gonna be the same

[tranquil blade]

Mailbox you might be more evil than Sengoku

[urban lodge]

Caring about his family?

[steel stirrup]

We already know he couldn't keep his promises

[golden valley]

Lets hope sengoku doesn’t tell the story of the VC

[steel stirrup]

Having a family in the first place when hes trying to take over the world

[wet condor]

Rocks is about to die here not due to any real flaw, yeah

[formal wagon]

[urban lodge]

Yeah I'm sorry but that's not a real flaw

[warm fossil]

like if joyboy just got unlucky there's genuinely no point in anything

[steel stirrup]

Hubris

[tranquil blade]

Oh that's

[wet condor]

So you'd say that his flaw is pursuing his dream instead of taking care of his family?

[fallen meteor]

Dragon is going to learn his family take in GV while rocks is dying
Hes going to say that to Roger or something like that

[formal wagon]

[steel stirrup]

His flaw was letting himself have any exploitable weakness when he's dealing with the people hes dealing with.

Im not saying him caring for his family is a flaw

But assuming he could freely have a family given his "goals" is definitely hubris

[urban lodge]

Also I shouldn't compare it to Oden because Oden has real flaws

I take it back

[warm fossil]

I imagine the most realistic options for what caused joyboy to lose are that he was too proud, too trusting, not willing to do something that had to be done, or didn't have the right people around him because he couldn't gather them

[wet condor]

If Rocks had stayed at GV, they may've been all be able to make it out together. You could say that. But he could've also just not came back to rescue him. But because he's loyal and a loving husband and father, he's about to die

[grand flower]

Temporal displacement wore off

[steel stirrup]

Do you see Rocks as a Mary Sue?

[formal wagon]

luffy is

not rocks

[warm fossil]

you know it's not happening at this point

[grand flower]

Rocks is filled with flaws

[steel stirrup]

Apparently not

[warm fossil]

and also shuron that would genuinely be awful

[formal wagon]

Rocks flaw list
1: stupid name
2: dead wife

[warm fossil]

like completely honest that would be abysmal writing

[wet condor]

I don't even know if I'd call it hubris tbh. I'd just say that the best argument is that not staying to protect care of his family is why they're not going to all make it out alive

[grand flower]

Being willing to attack children, his inability to convince Harald due to his violent and outlawed methods, his crew has no camaraderie because of the way he went about recruiting them, and is weaker than Imu

[blazing depot]

Rocks has a bad friend group

That’s his one flaw

[formal wagon]

3: stupid hair

[steel stirrup]

Sheesh and thats off the top of the head

[formal wagon]

4: his friends all hate him

[grand flower]

You can’t substantiate this

[grand flower]

I be knowing shit

[steel stirrup]

Temporal displacement?

[warm fossil]

the reason the world entered 800 years of hell was because the guys time travel timer ran out

[grand flower]

And?

[steel stirrup]

What's the theory here

[grand flower]

I think Luffy and Joy boy have always been the same person

[warm fossil]

why is that a compelling story exactly

[ornate tartan]

https://x.com/revmaher/status/1982154877741437160?s=46

@urban lodge 😂

Maher (@RevMaher)

#ONEPIECE1163

I can't believe that this arrogance of Rocks towards Imu, then it turns out he doesn't even know about Imu’s power and is defeated with a stab he thought was just a “normal stab”!

An ending befitting a pirate who doesn't think before acting frfr

X · Oct 25, 2025, 6:38 PM

[grand flower]

Idc what you find compelling

[tranquil blade]

Basically Luffy gets sent back in time to the void century and gets known to be Joyboy

[elfin oak]

!secretcommand

[tropic nova]

https://tinyurl.com/4poyc6x

[elfin oak]

the one piece is there

[warm fossil]

I'm asking you why it's compelling to you

[grand flower]

You’re good

[steel stirrup]

😭

[tranquil blade]

but wouldn't there be a time paradox of Luffy infinitely going back in time to just fail again and again

[urban lodge]

So true

[tranquil blade]

because if Joyboy is Luffy and he failed why wouldn't Luffy fail again

[steel stirrup]

That depends on what kind of shenanigans we're dealing with

[grand flower]

No cause he returns to the present and brings the Dawn in the present

[grand flower]

Better allies and better luck

He’s got Sanj, Nami, Chopper, Robin and Franky tjis time

[prisma idol]

I just never trust Time travel to be handled well, oda got away with it with toki as it was one way

[grand flower]

And Brook

Ans Vivi

[formal wagon]

Time Travel

Time Stranger

[prisma idol]

I dont think he could do anything better than that

[formal wagon]

agent

[grand flower]

And momo

[formal wagon]

💀 momo

[steel stirrup]

Momo huh

[ornate tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/momo-avatar-avatar-the-last-airbender-mad-talk-gif-15136846835506409796

[sturdy steeple]

Counter argument: he has Zoro

[prisma idol]

We have past the hating Momo phase

C'mon guys

[tranquil blade]

We are past it

[grand flower]

Sanji will counterbalance that

[steel stirrup]

I like Momo

[tranquil blade]

It's been like 67 months since hating Momo was valid

[languid juniper]

[prisma idol]

https://tenor.com/view/67-gif-8575841764206736991

[sturdy steeple]

You’re that guy that never fails interviews, huh

[steel stirrup]

I hate it here

[formal wagon]

naaaaaaah

[prisma idol]

Don't we all

[urban lodge]

Also I was talking about Joyboy

But in Rocks' case, he's not flawless, but I don't think they're what led to his death

[steel stirrup]

You think Joyboy will be a Mary Sue?

[urban lodge]

Oda is good at avoiding making complete Mary Sues but he's gonna be close

[steel stirrup]

I can't see him being flawless considering he did ultimately lose

[tranquil blade]

Penny is worried Joyboy will be like Rocks 2.0

[ornate tartan]

let me tell yall Momonosuke potential

Mythical Zoan Azure Dragon Fruit
Voice of All Things
Oden Sword Ame no Habakari(Enma counterpart)
Conquerors(if he inherit from his father Oden)

If his childhood wasn’t robbed from him and he grew up like normal Momonosuke would be tough😂

[steel stirrup]

I like Rocks

[sweet anvil]

This MIGHT just be the least threatening line up of ALL time 😭

[urban lodge]

I just think it won't be a straightforward loss

[strong wadi]

This time, Luffy won't have the nefertari's betray him.

[urban lodge]

Oda almost never does those

[prisma idol]

I'm sure Oda will give joyboy flaws

[grand flower]

Never

[steel stirrup]

I think he does that to piss off powerscalers

[urban lodge]

I do admire that about Oda

[steel stirrup]

I just dont understand the Rocks hate

[sweet anvil]

More like oda can’t draw / doesn’t want to draw a good fight 🙏

[urban lodge]

His fights are pretty unique in that aspect

[warm fossil]

very possible what cause joyboy to lose was not working with davy Jones

[urban lodge]

Luffy always needs help

[prisma idol]

I think part of it inherently also comes from the Fandom

[sage temple]

They're mad he only has 1 flaw

[tranquil blade]

Honestly getting the interview in the first place is harder than actually "passing" an interview

[steel stirrup]

Why is that?

[prisma idol]

Even if we say we dont allow the Fandom to sway us, it does affect how we view them

[sage temple]

Terrible Observation Haki

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/god-valley-one-piece-fire-smoke-island-gif-7803018634765679788

[trim lily]

i try to limit any fandom influence to this discord only but even then i still get affected

[sweet anvil]

This is indirect Loki glaze

[prisma idol]

Rocks was glazed from high heaven and back.... people arent very fond of that, especially when it comes so often

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-shaking-head-speed-shaking-head-speed-clapping-hands-gif-7797247252281441694

[prisma idol]

Rocks' was weekly since his appearance

[tranquil blade]

He got you tbh

[sage temple]

They're mad he's perfect

[wet condor]

Being irritated with the fandom is one thing, but it shouldn't color perception of characters

[prisma idol]

It is inevitable, we are only human.

I think.

[trim lily]

i mean, yeah?

[sage temple]

Can't believe he saw through that

[steel stirrup]

Fuck what they think tho

[prisma idol]

That a valid criticism btw

[sturdy steeple]

Sadly, it might still occur subconsciously.

[ornate tartan]

yeah ur right it shouldn’t

[steel stirrup]

Yea perfect characters are kinda ass but I definitely don't think Rocks is anything close to that

[trim lily]

our enjoyment of a story depends on a variety of factors and our mental state

[sage temple]

That just means you're miserable lol how can u hate something bc it's amazing

[urban lodge]

It's not a voluntary thing unfortunately

[steel stirrup]

Perfect characters are not realistic

[wraith mantle]

allowing the fandom to affect how you feel about a character is honestly super strange

[ornate tartan]

it’s hard for a lot of people to seperate the character from the fanbase of that character

idk why

[steel stirrup]

I see

[sweet anvil]

Real

[prisma idol]

Still, people inherently no matter what get affected by the people they see and talk to. So if you see people glazing a character, a bit too much, it gets aggravating. For example, you would get tired of an overplayed song.

[sweet anvil]

No matter what I try I’ll always hate garling

[sage temple]

They should read a non-fiction then

[sweet anvil]

And yosaku

[prisma idol]

Its easy to say "just separate the Fandom from the character". But its not just that simple

[steel stirrup]

Nah I understand I went thru that exact thing with Shanks

[urban lodge]

Yeah even I did

[prisma yacht]

And imu

[prisma idol]

Trueeee

[urban lodge]

I used to dislike Shanks for the exact same reasons I do Rocks

[sweet anvil]

I actually don’t dislike imu

[urban lodge]

But he's starting to grow on me

[wraith mantle]

its honestly that simple

[trim lily]

most people don’t intentionally let themselves be affected, it’s a slow and gradual burn

[strong wadi]

When Zoro, Shanks, and Kid fans try their hardest to make you hate them and their character 🧘‍♂️

[wet condor]

It's really not that hard for me tbh

[sweet anvil]

Imu is the only member of the wg I don’t dislike which is weird

Idk why

[dense rapids]

Abyss/Land of The Dead arc gonna go crazy when the straw hats go and brook leads them out like Orpheus

[wraith mantle]

like zoro fans are the most annoying fanbase out there

[prisma idol]

Its different for everybody

[prisma yacht]

You shld , it's good for health

[wraith mantle]

but it doesn't make me view zoro any differently

[wet condor]

And I still love Zoro

lol

[wraith mantle]

yeah like it is a non-issue

[trim lily]

i’m the opposite lmao, imu might be the only one i do dislike

[steel stirrup]

I still like Shanks but I will be the first to testify that his fans ( @cloud adder ) were on his nutsss

Had to check myself tho

[sleek plume]

Two fandoms fighting to the death just for one of them to be 0.1% stronger than the other

[prisma idol]

I wait for the return of my queen... Maffey...

[grand flower]

The fandom has only made me realize why aspects of the series are even better than I initially thought cause seeing stuff get complained about often makes me think about those things and how they're written more than I might have

[trim lily]

tragic how under represented the knights have been here

[golden valley]

I dont dislike any WG fighter

[trim lily]

i was looking forward to them

[golden valley]

Just be like me

[hot cairn]

you hate Shanks tho

[prisma yacht]

Ah man I want all of them to die so bad

[prisma idol]

Oda has downplayed the knights a bit too much

[urban lodge]

I love the wg (probably pretty obvious)

[steel stirrup]

The regeneration situation has hurt them

[grand flower]

Only garling fr

[prisma idol]

He needs to give them more stuff and Ws

[strong wadi]

You just have to wait for the void flashback where we see Imu seduce Lili away from joyboy and then after joyboy dies, Lili realizes she made a mistake and tries to run away

[grand flower]

He's been hyping Gunko

[prisma idol]

I think this is a silly way to think

[sweet anvil]

Believe me we knew

[grand flower]

I guess Sommers too actually

Yeah def Sommers too

[prisma idol]

The regen is part of their powers and a gimmick like how the Logias were pre ts

[grand flower]

Killingham and Shamrock are fine

Gunko is great

[steel stirrup]

You wanna show off how good the regen is but to do that you have to show them getting hit with very avoidable attacks and it makes them looks bad

[trim lily]

literally all my interest in imu is resting on that elusive flashback

[sweet anvil]

I really dislike all of the HK not even because they’ve been getting embarrassed

[grand flower]

Most people understand they take those attacks because they'll just regenerate tho

[trim lily]

i’m very curious into how imu turned into what they are and their motives

[strong wadi]

I never said they didn’t succeed

[prisma idol]

If you know you will be fine, then why dodge?

[ornate tartan]

they only getting hit because they don’t have to dodge
they just going to regenerate

[steel stirrup]

I don't think its silly to see regen as a problem

[hot cairn]

in Elbaph? I think Oda has done a good job with Summers and Gunko

[sweet anvil]

I dislike the fact that they’re all dependent on imu for a big part of their power

[trim lily]

god valley

the knights on elbaf were great

[steel stirrup]

To show that you are still competent in battle

[hot cairn]

LOL, I thought that emoji was you being unbothered

[grand flower]

Do you genuinely believe that there won't be limits?

[golden valley]

Are they tho

[hot cairn]

ahh

[steel stirrup]

Gaban says ACoC is the limit

[prisma yacht]

Gunko is bearable

[golden valley]

Dependent means they can’t fight without it

[sage temple]

I feel like Loki will have a way around regen

[grand flower]

I think they have shown that tho

[warm fossil]

I have yet to see a single occurrence in any form of media where complete invincibility let to a good fight

[eternal viper]

Yeah that’s fair, at least it hopefully elevates Shamrock though, cause he seems different

[prisma idol]

Thats just oda not showing them fighting back and instead focusing on their own things, which i have a problem with. That is not inherently a problem with the regen

[ornate tartan]

Rich eventually they will get neg diffed
we just have to wait and find out how😂

[sweet anvil]

A big part of the way they fight and how other people fight them is their regeneration that they are dependent on imu for

[steel stirrup]

Or more accurately the equalizer

[grand flower]

You haven't seen complete invicibility in One Piece lol

[wraith mantle]

imu taking zero damage from the combined might of 6 yonko level attacks is honestly bad writing

[strong wadi]

I mean it’s been heavily implied that he’s meaningfully harmed regen in the harald incident

[prisma idol]

Its not

[sweet anvil]

Exactly

[prisma yacht]

Others must die
Its their fate

[urban lodge]

There's nothing bad about it

[warm fossil]

I basically have

[steel stirrup]

A few have

[urban lodge]

Because there's obviously gonna be a counter

[sage temple]

He says it himself so yeah he probably is the key to killing regenerators

[urban lodge]

It's just not ooga booga brute force

[sage temple]

I wanna see him fight so bad

[golden valley]

6 characters who cant counter regen, the numbers don’t really matter

[steel stirrup]

If you make that counter ACoC now everyone in the final war who fights them needs to be an ACoC user

[ornate tartan]

what if the counter is not just advanced conquerors haki but acoc with No Hostility

[sweet anvil]

His approach is the same one gaban and rocks had presumably

[wraith mantle]

one of them is proven to have beaten garling, his attack did zero damage to imu

[grand flower]

You're thinking of it as "Six attacks of 100 damage hit Imu, so Imu tanked 600 damage"

It's actually "six attacks of 100 damage hit Imu who can tank 200 damage with the Haki trick applied, but they didn't have the trick applied for damage to matter to Imu"

[jade rain]

It's clearly not, it's bad writing when HK's and garling getting defeated easily when they are supposed to be upcoming foes

[prisma idol]

It can't be ACoC

[golden valley]

If you have 6 BM’s and they have no haki on, then they all hit Kizaru, nothing will happen

[warm fossil]

yes because imu will not be beaten by brute force

[grand flower]

Exactly

[golden valley]

Kizaru will be unphased

[prisma idol]

We have seen people use ACoC on the HKs, all it does it slow down and delay the regen

[urban lodge]

Imu is the source of all of the others' immortality, this makes perfect sense

[wraith mantle]

but rocks knows the trick, he beat garling

[grand flower]

Imu's power is literally one that makes how hard you hit irrelevant

[urban lodge]

Obviously his is gonna be the strongest of all

[sage temple]

You sure?

[grand flower]

I think we need to wait for this to elebaorated on

[sweet anvil]

Rocks had the haki trick at the very minimum and his attacks have no effect

[sage temple]

I thoughjt it'd be df

[golden valley]

Ok and thats about 4 characters present with the ability to counter lesser regen

[steel stirrup]

From what I've seen they can't even be knocked out

[prisma idol]

Imu has haxs

[golden valley]

The point still stands

[sage temple]

But yeah I guess it's just Haki

[ornate tartan]

hear me out

Imu is defeated by drowning

only IF he has a devil fruit

I’m pretty sure either one of Blackbeard or Imu will meet their demise this way

[sage temple]

I wish it was DF based or smth

[golden valley]

Imu has better regen than HK

[steel stirrup]

Duh

[grand flower]

Yeah but that's not Imu tanking "the might of six combined attacks" when only one of them had the trick applied and that's assuming there isn't something more to do for Rocks

[prisma yacht]

Lol

[sweet anvil]

Tbh I wish fights were less haki based nowadays

[ornate tartan]

someone in this series is going to drown

[prisma idol]

Ive wanted BB to be one of the ones to either eat too many fruits or drown

[steel stirrup]

Why BB

[trim lily]

i pray BB drowns

[grand flower]

Oda did this for big mom vs kid and law and pepple dismiss it for not being a Haki fight lol

[fallen meteor]

[wraith mantle]

this why i hate theories

[trim lily]

it’s been the number one weakness of the devil fruit, if anyone is to die by it it should be the df guy

[blazing depot]

Blackbeard

[prisma idol]

He's more likely to fall in the water as a pirate. Plus his whole fighting style revolves around his fruits

[wraith mantle]

because now if bb died drowning

[urban lodge]

I now think BB exploding from trying to eat too many fruits is better than drowning

[wraith mantle]

i will feel spoiled

[urban lodge]

It's so peak

[wet condor]

Haki will play a role. It's pretty standard at this point. I watched one of Morj's videos and he makes a point that whenver there's a character that's introduced as being "invincible" or "unbeatable", Haki has become an integral part of the equation to beating them lol

[sweet anvil]

Yeah but still if rocks attacks by themselves have this haki trick there should be some effect but there’s been 0 effect when rocks attacks imu even after he slices them in 5 pieces

[ornate tartan]

everyone saying he coming back😂
bro is at the bottom of the ocean with going merry and davy jones

[steel stirrup]

Her forgetting about the damage multiplier in a implied fight to the death is wild work tho

[jade rain]

Atleast one character should meet their demise that way, even when kidd is shown drowning we know he is alive

[sage temple]

Sharks can swim better than beetles

[prisma yacht]

[grand flower]

She didn't

[prisma idol]

Time for my daily message

I miss luffy...

[sage temple]

I've lowk been getting bored of the Haki element of fights tho

[wraith mantle]

yeah thats a fair point

[trim lily]

who

[jagged inlet]

i’m tryna be corazon for halloween but can’t find anywhere to buy stuff from, anyone know any places that sell non-tacky costume stuff i might find it at?

[steel stirrup]

Did she use it against Law and Kid?

[sage temple]

[lofty fern]

Yeah, I saw that. Had to turn him off. He's ridiculous sometimes. He doesn't even consider that maybe Imu has something other than a DF

[fallen meteor]

#other-series

[tranquil blade]

It might just take Luffy and Blackbeard at the same time fighting Imu to defeat him

[sage temple]

Big Mom lowk forgets to use Haki

[prisma yacht]

It's been 4 months

[wraith mantle]

i cooked chicken and rice today and ate it, and my stomach hurts for some reason
hope its not salmonella

[tranquil blade]

Luffy might actually have to work with Blackbeard to win

[trim lily]

man i hate this