also-manga

[native seal]

a loser?

successful

[proud pivot]

Oda has to make him more hateable somehow 🙏

[tranquil blade]

World's strongest slaver

[haughty saddle]

I don’t even like donuts but I’d kill to have one of them bad boys right off the conveyor.

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/slime-colorful-squishy-stretchy-satisfying-gif-16707658

[urban lodge]

Normal Imu, the thing he transformed into when he attacked Sabo, Gunkmu, Saturnmu

[golden valley]

Gives shakky a run for her money

[tranquil blade]

Only one can be his final form

or we haven't seen his final form yet

[urban lodge]

The thing on the mural

[native seal]

im tryna know how imu confused xebec with davy jones when they saw each other at pangea

[digital spear]

Oda giving Imu 50 forms before actually revealing him

[rose rune]

nah, blackbeard and Eris will be killed by Rocks

we go back to present time and bb is written out of the story

[tranquil blade]

Oda taking inspiration from dragon ball, give the villain 5 different transformations

[golden valley]

So we have multiple forms of Imu

Pp imu
Umibozu looking Imu
Black goo Imu
Spider Imu
Imuko

[stone terrace]

Rocks is davy jones the way luffy is joyboy

[tranquil blade]

Blackbeard is the real davy jones

[native seal]

i agree

[rose rune]

"I just got rid of a pirate you hated Luffy, just like I promised I would if you released me"
"my story tell no mi is quite powerful"

[golden valley]

And like 2 other transformations counting the mural

[bold sonnet]

Imu? More like immune

[tranquil blade]

He also changes states of matter

[bold sonnet]

[tranquil blade]

We're seeing liquid Imu right now

[golden valley]

Im thinking Imu became black paint

[bold sonnet]

Rat form when?

[stone terrace]

Imu has beyond regen

[cunning narwhal]

Gas imu will be the strongest character in fiction

[stone terrace]

Black sword are blessed by imu

https://tenor.com/view/phatearl-gif-5144958891353233942

[tranquil blade]

Plasma Imu will surpass it

[pulsar path]

Idk I'm starting to think water related power is more likely. It could be dark just because of inu evil soul

[native seal]

no fuckin wonder people think mihawk is related to imu

blob of black paint

[distant vine]

Would be a nightmare

[pulsar path]

If Sabo wasn't stabbed by Gunko, than that means devil fruit users feel different pain when being stabbed by Imu

[golden valley]

And mihawk has parent privileges considering mihawk is the son of imu

Makes sense why he got a black blade so early

[distant vine]

#Those people would be like "Lend Me Some Boosted Swords Imu" against Zoro all day

Id have to leave the server

[rose rune]

mihawk stole the sword

[stone terrace]

Yeah ngl thatd permanently fry the agenda

[tranquil blade]

I'm wondering if Oda is just making these abilities up as he goes

[tulip turtle]

Imu is like ink

Oda's ink

[ashen perch]

Nerona Mihawk is the thing that Mihawk fans should fear the most

[tulip turtle]

[ashen perch]

because it wouldnt matter if it made Mihawk top 2 or whatever, the slander will be endless

[digital spear]

I fear it the most because I dont want Dracule to be a fake name

[distant vine]

It probably is Mihawk fans who were trying to say Shanks had Imu boosts

[ashen perch]

people will not care, they will point out that it all came from Imu

[distant vine]

So idk if Id feel very sorry for them

[graceful belfry]

🤔

[ashen perch]

its true

[tulip turtle]

he is 70% going to be connected in some way to imu considering their eyes matches a lot in manga

[ashen perch]

Nerona Mihawk and Nerona Imu will be treated like Morgan and Helmeppo if you think about it

[graceful belfry]

LMAO

[distant vine]

I can imagine the braindead convos

"Mihawk did it all by himself!"
"Imu gave him the boost of life"

[tulip turtle]

and have the same seriousness in them

[rose rune]

helmeppo is a nepo baby

[warm fossil]

its abysmal but there are worse fates

[digital spear]

Helnepo

[ashen perch]

is there

[warm fossil]

yyes

[ashen perch]

It is very likely btw, I am not questioning that

[iron oriole]

Can't wait for the nepo baby Mihawk comments

[warm fossil]

some of them need to remain hidden to avoid the slander

[rose rune]

not only was helmeppo born rich and spoiled, he also got his dad's superior genes

[tranquil blade]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-speedy-ishowspeedy-crashout-gif-12313702839187803425

[warm fossil]

if mihawk is a celestial a dragon i'm dropping the agenda btw just so you know

[tranquil blade]

It's a living hell to like Mihawk

[digital spear]

Thats why I hope he is

[distant vine]

Morgan has damaged Garp more than every BBP except Kuzan and Shiryu

[native seal]

im living in hell

[hot cairn]

probably, but I think we’ll have a moment of Rocks resisting it

[tranquil blade]

Unironically worse than being in the WW1 trenches

[hot cairn]

why

[hasty sable]

Mihawk the cop killer is a CD

[warm fossil]

would instantly lose all my respect

[native seal]

mihawk is a likable character he just hasnt done anything

[proud pivot]

Who cares if Mihawk is a cd, he's the goat

[wet condor]

I'm holding onto the idea that Mihawk made Yoru black. That's one of the cool things that he's got going for him. if he didnt...

[rose rune]

the trenches aren't that bad. that war was over 100 years ago

[digital spear]

Yeah it shouldnt matter

[ashen perch]

him being a Celestial will be fine for the "agenda", but if it turns out that he's Imu's abyss built non human son or some shit that I have seen over the past few weeks, its over

[urban lodge]

He's not a CD anymore so who cares

[graceful belfry]

I still doubt any familial connection between Mihawk and Imu. There’s definitely something there tho

[tranquil blade]

I'm talking about during the war

[hasty sable]

I don’t think we need another secret CD character

[warm fossil]

obviously he did lol

that i would actually bet a house on

[hasty sable]

It’s getting a little silly

[hot cairn]

LOL

[rose rune]

oh they were pretty bad back then. I think you would prefer being a mihawk fan

[distant vine]

He would be the third one no?

[hasty sable]

Yep

[distant vine]

Doflamingo, Shanks and then Mihawk

[digital spear]

Oda will get a lot more silly

[ashen perch]

it is notable that Mihawk's origin place is said to be unknown in every single databook ever

[hasty sable]

Another shichibukai even

[pulsar path]

Don't forget doffy brother

[iron oriole]

Does Bonney count?

[pulsar path]

And technically bonney

[warm fossil]

[urban lodge]

Doesn't count

[hasty sable]

Mihawk could be a noble from another nation that would be fine

[distant vine]

Corazon was introduced as a CD iirc

[urban lodge]

She was tossed away

[distant vine]

Bonney never grew up with intentions of being one of them

[warm fossil]

definitely didn't look like a noble when oda drew him as a kid

[digital spear]

Well then Shanks and Doffy dont count

[pulsar path]

Right

[hasty sable]

Personally think Mihawk’s backstory is really unnecessary and he could just be some really strong guy that decided to cut his teeth with marines.

[tranquil blade]

If I see a single CD named "St. Dracule" whatever it may be over

[urban lodge]

Shanks and Doffy lived in Mariejois

[ashen perch]

the goth is related to Mihawk btw

[digital spear]

I HOPE for it

[warm fossil]

^

[digital spear]

St. Dracule is hype

[distant vine]

I dont really want a Mihawk backstory either tbh

SBS it

[digital spear]

Nobody here knows taste

[wet condor]

I don't care about it

[warm fossil]

no need for an sbs either

[graceful belfry]

I’m definitely not holding out for the Mihawk backstory. I like him as he is now

[pulsar path]

All we know is shanks visited holy land we don't really know how long he was there and all that

[wet condor]

10 years ago I would've

[tranquil blade]

Well I'd take St. Dracule over him being a Nerona

[warm fossil]

i wouldn't

[ashen perch]

Mihawk as a CD will be cool, Mihawk as a Nerona will be intriguing to me but I would have to see how it goes

[pulsar path]

I mean Imu name be dracule would actually be really fitting tho

[late compass]

a quick backstory for him like kaido would be cool

[tranquil blade]

I think the only reason I like Mihawk is because people dont like him

[ornate tartan]

sbs lineage is crazy

[urban lodge]

Well it clearly wasn't a quick visit considering his tattoo

[distant vine]

@tranquil blade Your pfp is abhorrent Im now realizing

[wet condor]

Like it's something that I would actively want I mean. If it comes out now it's just a cool tidbit rather than anything that I'm excited for

[hasty sable]

It’s getting to a point that it becomes less interesting the more you add lol

[tranquil blade]

What's the issue with it

[pulsar path]

You can get a tattoo in like five min lol

[rose rune]

damn. I forgot to finish cleaning my coffee machine yesterday. it's still full of citric acid

[warm fossil]

we passed that point long ago

[distant vine]

OP fans CRASH OUT when characters get short backstories

[ashen perch]

What the people arent ready for is the ultimate inversion in the final war, Imu and Mihawk v Luffy and Zoro - calling back to Morgan and Helmeppo v Luffy and Zoro

[urban lodge]

Why would he get it then if he was just gonna leave?

[warm fossil]

ultra ass

[distant vine]

Hold on...

[digital spear]

Ex Holy Knight St. Dracule Mihawk is very fine and cool and people are against it for no reason except adood who is scared of Mihawk slander

[hasty sable]

Mihawk becoming the world’s strongest swordsman by hunting and killing strong marines is already awesome. Just leave it there.

[distant vine]

Let him cook?

[tranquil blade]

Comparing Mihawk to Helmeppo is pretty insulting I'm ngl

[ornate tartan]

Mihawk=Helmeppo😂

[digital spear]

To Helmeppo

[ornate tartan]

that’s wild

[ashen perch]

youre seeing the vision

[warm fossil]

this could happen on the second to last chapter of one piece and i'd still drop

[pulsar path]

Or even making assumptions that he even got that tattoo on holy land and two it might have been the only way he could come back is if he got the mark but tbh I don't think he has the mark imu would have been watching him when he grabbed the Nika fruit

[hasty sable]

I’m against it because it’s lame. We have enough secret Celestial Dragons.

[ornate tartan]

how does a zoro mihawk fight even fit into the final saga

[warm fossil]

it doesn't

[ashen perch]

you will love it adood its fine

[graceful belfry]

[digital spear]

We are gonna get more

[hasty sable]

Literally doing the exact same thing as Shanks

[digital spear]

It explains his past with Shanks

[alpine trench]

I agree, Doffy, Corazon and Shamrock are enough for now

[warm fossil]

we don't need an explanation

[digital spear]

Why are people including Corazon

[warm fossil]

both were strong swordsmen

[pulsar path]

Mihawk is probably related to the dude ryuma fought

[warm fossil]

so they fought

[hasty sable]

Shanks and Mihawk can just meet in the New World and fight

It’s not a big deal

[ashen perch]

really I think Shanks is the only "secret" CD that I would even count because its silly to include Doflamingo in there and even worse to consider Bonney

[graceful belfry]

You know what, Arsal? You’re right. I am terrified of Mihawk Nerona

[digital spear]

It will be a big deal, sorry

[hasty sable]

Doffy absolutely counts bro

[distant vine]

I mean Doflamingo wasnt known as a CD for a long time

[alpine trench]

Why doesn’t Doffy count

[distant vine]

Im only counting him and Shanks

[hasty sable]

We knew him as an antagonist for hundreds of chapters before he turned out to be a noble

[urban lodge]

Imu isn't monitoring everyone with the abyss mark 24/7, we know Saturn has done things without his knowledge like not destroying Emet

[distant vine]

Since they had the perception of regular guys before but then got revealed to be nobles

[bold sonnet]

Does Bonney count?

[digital spear]

Doffy and Shanks count, Corazon and Shamrock are their brothers but they dont count

[distant vine]

No cause she wasnt gonna be a noble

[hasty sable]

Roci and Shamrock don’t count

[ashen perch]

in Doffy's case, Its just a reveal for a mysterious guy that we had barely seen upto that point, whose connections with CDs were well telegraphed beforehand

[bold sonnet]

[pulsar path]

Yeah but if you ask me the only reason shanks would be giving mark is so Imu would be able to watch him it doesn't even make since for him to get one also why didnt his arm Regen than

Shanks would t have lost an arm

Wouldn't*

[warm fossil]

we highkey knew a lot more about doffy then than we know about mihawk now

[distant vine]

The whole convo around Mihawk being an addition to the CD's would be that he has/had the perception of being one with their powers and status

[ashen perch]

we didnt lol

[pulsar path]

Why would the Marines go after Mihawk if he was a CD

[ashen perch]

Mihawk and Doffy have been speculated to be CDs for as long as the CDs have existed so theres not much of a difference there atleast

[hasty sable]

Mihawk isn’t gonna be a CD

[woven talon]

I think I saw tbat idea that shanks lost and arm intentionally to get rid of his mark... im not a fan of this as cool as it sounds because it makes his sacrifice for luffy even more self serving

[digital spear]

"I want x character to just be a normal strong guy without special lineage" is a wish you only get fulfilled for so many characters. And if I had to choose, Mihawk doesnt have to be among them. He can be special lineage

[ornate tartan]

what i’m asking is, how does a zoro mihawk fight that has stakes even fit into the story the direction it’s heading right now, because i can’t see it
The final war happens then what he just goes to find him and challenge him?😂 because Mihawk himself doesn’t care about the one piece

[hasty sable]

I don’t care if he is a noble he just shouldn’t be a Cd

[warm fossil]

this doesn't make any sense he could've lost an arm any time he wanted

[pulsar path]

How do you intentionally break a contract with a devil

[proud pivot]

Are you sure?

[hasty sable]

We literally have done that twice lol

[digital spear]

Why not

[ashen perch]

this is just silly to me, I dont think Mihawk being just some guy is inherently better for me to dismiss it like this

[distant vine]

The stakes are built in. Zoro becomes WSS or he doesnt

[digital spear]

What actually speaks against it

[hasty sable]

Because it’s lame dude lol

[proud pivot]

Its nepo piece baby

[hasty sable]

So so lame

[digital spear]

I cant see this being it at all

[woven talon]

sue him

[digital spear]

Its gonna be more

[pulsar path]

Tbh imu has moment where he looks like joy boys eyes

[proud pivot]

Even Buggy is rumored to be From Gunko's bloodline😭🙏

[hot cairn]

I don’t think it’s necessary

[ashen perch]

how is it lame lol, what ever gave you the impression that Mihawk wasn't gonna be from some high noble family?

[bold sonnet]

Marine hunter CD. Bro had friendly fire on... doesn't make any sense lol

[ashen perch]

its extremely fitting for Mihawk

[hasty sable]

One Piece should have ended in five years

[digital spear]

^

[proud pivot]

Dracule literally means son of the devil and we know who the devil of one piece is

[woven talon]

I think a mihawk backstory only needs to be a couple pages if it ever happens

[hasty sable]

Oh so now it was always obvious he would be a CD

Gotcha lol

[ornate tartan]

this is guaranteed, i’m just wondering when this fight will happen in the final saga and for what reason other then just challenging him for a title, that wouldn’t make sense in the middle of a war there has to be stakes involved outside of that

I just hope they don’t put this shit in a epilogue😂

[pulsar path]

Nika and Imu eyes are practically the same missing just one circle

[iron oriole]

Theres no guarantee that its a contract or whatever, its just a WG tattoo

[proud pivot]

nah Luffy has only two circles, their eye design ain't the same

[ashen perch]

it kinda was, I have seen it as a theory for the past 10+ years lol

[pulsar path]

Cutting hairs

[digital spear]

St. Dracule Mihawk was in the training for new holy knights alongside Shanks and Shamrock, thats where their rivalry started, and then Shanks and Mihawk left Mariejois

[hasty sable]

Yeah I remember you talking about it for the last five years because it was so obvious

[digital spear]

Nothing bad about it

[hot cairn]

what are you cooking

[graceful belfry]

Dubious food

[pulsar path]

That's literally what the mark implies a contract with Imu for power

[urban lodge]

No way it's only been 4 months

Feels like way longer

[proud pivot]

Nerona Mihawk*
This can't be a coincidence, no other character in one piece have exactly the same eye design

[pulsar path]

Technically he was on the cover page lol

[hot cairn]

Domi Reversi Mihawk

[native seal]

best 4 months of the manga

[hasty sable]

It is a coincidence

[brazen prawn]

@pulsar path is rocks gonna resist domi reversi or not what you think bro

[digital spear]

Dracule being a fake name would be bad

[cunning narwhal]

and oda is cooking a masterpiece within a masterpiece. harald's flashback is peak but i wanna get back to the day of his death so bad

[pulsar path]

Na rocks is cooked sadly 😞😭 but Garp and Roger will

[hasty sable]

Mihawk is a side character that exists for Zoro. He isn’t going to be related to the main villain of the whole story lol. That’s beyond absurd.

[ashen perch]

damn it hasnt actually been that long since I started believing in Nerona Mihawk

but CD Mihawk predates it

[warm fossil]

there wouldnt even be a reason for mihawk to go by a fake name nobody knows imu exists or about nerona

[brazen prawn]

So you think they both will kill rocks

[proud pivot]

I mean even is its fake, it has a reason to be used alonsgide hawkeye, oda doesn't randomly name characters, there are meanings to it

Just like Rocks really name is Davy D xebec

[pulsar path]

If its not home related to be Domi anyways I do think that Luffy, Garp and Roger will have some sort of purity that causes it to not work on them

[iron oriole]

It could simply just be a WG branding sort of thing, i doubt Imu is out here like "oh you returned after X years after acting as a pirate, take this ultimate power" even if he is a Figarland

[ashen perch]

Mihawk doesnt have a fake name, its a title

[pulsar path]

Yeah I order to save bb 😭

[hasty sable]

https://tenor.com/view/behilit-berserk-gif-13446388404833994339

[ashen perch]

he is Dracule, the son of the devil

[hasty sable]

Me if Nerona Mihawk happens

[digital spear]

Well Zoro is the MCs number 2, and Mihawk is his final opponent, and Imu supposedly Luffys final opponent

[hot cairn]

true

[ashen perch]

literally the least offensive thing ever

[hasty sable]

It’s bad

[pulsar path]

Hence why the only reason shanks would get a mark is for Imu to watch him. Tbh it just seems like shanks doesn't have a mark and the tattoo is irrelevant

[ashen perch]

me reading God Valley:

[hasty sable]

Actually would make me hate Mihawk

[proud pivot]

Mihawk literally has no scars despite being called the WSS

[hasty sable]

And now I’m just slightly more than indifferent to him

[proud pivot]

Is it regen?

I will cry fr

[hot cairn]

Archer is out of line but he’s kinda right

[hasty sable]

Because of the cross guild stuff which has him actually doing things

[pulsar path]

Ahhhhhh!!! The egg

[warm fossil]

yeah because he's him

[ashen perch]

I think the chances of Mihawk being extremely important are high precisely because he is a character that exists for Zoro

[proud pivot]

Nope, he will be important, why do you think the name of bUggy is even their among the ppl who are racing to find one piece?

Buggy has literally zero relevance to the plot

[ashen perch]

the care that Oda puts into everything that has to do with Zoro is unmatched, whoever he fights is usually the 2nd most important villain in an arc and we're talking about his main goal here

[brazen prawn]

Bb is gonna survive anyway I am talking about rocks he should die like man while fighting imu not like he's domi reversi companion/ slave he should die with honour that much i wanted to see not like a slave who's in imu's control or self harm himself and die noooooo not like this oda

[warm fossil]

zoro hasn't fought the second most important villain in an arc literally in any arc post time skip arsal

[iron oriole]

I do think its a red herring & like i said its just a branding sort of deal, though i did have an idea months ago that the abyss marking could be a progression/stage type & Shanks had lets say mk1 (no regen just survelliance or whatever)

[tranquil blade]

He did in Wano

[pulsar path]

No because the whole point is to give bb. More fuel for going after inu

[ashen perch]

He is currently basically the 4th emperor lol, Oda has managed to make him relevant to the OP race too when I previously thought that was the last thing he will ever be involved in

[digital spear]

I dont like Rocks being a fake name either because the explanation that "the government wants to hide the Davy" is too weak (why didnt they hide the D.?) and I prefer characters family names that we knew them with to be real in-universe

[hot cairn]

the cross Guild stuff is good tho

[tranquil blade]

but yeah Zoro does typically fight the 2nd most important antagonist of an arc]

[pulsar path]

I could see that for sure ! Maybe something like the more you use it the more it progresses as well?

[warm fossil]

that was true pre ts

[hasty sable]

Buggy is more relevant than Mihawk

[warm fossil]

not any more

[ashen perch]

just shows how significantly Oda views him

[tranquil blade]

That was arguably true in Dressrosa

[warm fossil]

it wasn't even true late pre time skip to be honest

[proud pivot]

Yeah his entire crew is carried by mihawk, without mihawk his crew gets blitzed by any two YC+ tier characters

[iron oriole]

The more you use it the deeper you fall into the abyss

[ornate tartan]

u think buggy has 0 relevance to the plot??😂😂 cmon man

[warm fossil]

water 7 is the very last time zoro fought a real second most important guy

[hot cairn]

it wasnt the Government that hide it, it was Rocks

[pulsar path]

Yeah! Like everyone they teleport is probably giving your soul more to the abyss or rather Imu I bet

[warm fossil]

that was 800 chapters ago

[pulsar path]

Maybe

[digital spear]

According to Rocks it was the Government

[proud pivot]

Yeah he's important as an yonko and guess what made him a yonko?

[hot cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/piss-nuke-piss-nuke-tutorial-truth-nuke-true-true-morgan-freeman-gif-1990497734463688507

[brazen prawn]

I think he should die while fighting like Man, not when he was in he's control

what do you think bro

[ashen perch]

King kinda counts because BM was more of a non SH thing there

[pulsar path]

I would like that that's not what is happening tho sadly

[ornate tartan]

strength ≠ relevance

[proud pivot]

Buggy literally beat no one to become a yonko lol

why is mihawk being related to imu a bad thing again?

[tranquil blade]

King was more important than Big Mom yeah

🙂‍↕️

[pulsar path]

The argument that kaido is stronger than big mom is crazy

Personally dear big mom way more than kaido

[proud pivot]

SH beat Kaido, Shanks beats loki, Teech beats Whitbeard's crew and they became a yonko, buggy is literally carried by one name

[warm fossil]

what are we talking about

[pulsar path]

I think a bigger deal is hachinoso beating Garp

[hot cairn]

He didn’t say the Government cover up his name

[urban lodge]

It's stupid either way

[brazen prawn]

I think buggy is hiding his power

[urban lodge]

I'm sure he knows the D is important too

[hot cairn]

they didn’t invent the name rocks

[proud pivot]

nah teech became a yonko before that

[hot cairn]

Rocks presents himself as such to Harald

[proud pivot]

Buggy memes are not funny c'mon guys

[pulsar path]

I'm just sayin In general

[proud pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-flight-meme-notyouraverageflight-notyouraverageflight-meme-not-your-average-flight-gif-15102885231826256493

[hasty sable]

Davy D. Xebec is a lame name btw

[pulsar path]

That's the biggest feat if you ask me

[urban lodge]

Awful name

[hasty sable]

Rocks D. Xebec is better

[ashen perch]

havent you seen the list jesus

Alabasta/Dressrosa
Skypiea/Zou
Water 7/WCI
Thriller Bark/Wano
Sabaody/Egghead
FMI/Elbaf
Amazon Lily/Next arc
ID&Marineford/Hachinosu
East Blue/Final War

[pulsar path]

Na so much better than Rocks yall crazy

[hasty sable]

Davy D. Teach

[pulsar path]

Rocks is a horrible name

[iron oriole]

If we see Domi'd Rocks regen now it could help the idea out, it would confirm that it does give the regen & therefore being almost 1:1 to the HKs etc

What if forcing it with Domi Reversi is too much for the individual to handle & thats why they grow fangs/wings etc uncontrollably but if its drip fed via progressive use for the HKs/Gorosei, they become accustomed to it & thats why they still look human

[pulsar path]

Perfection

[hasty sable]

[proud pivot]

Yeah that shii will increase his bounty way above shanks, capturing garp is insane blow to the WG

[ashen perch]

I like Davy D Teach and Davy D Jones, Xebec is w/e

[hot cairn]

I don’t believe in arc parallels/inversions

[brazen prawn]

Imagine at the end buggy will say let's stop the act and go to business too claim the world itself that will be peak🔥🔥🔥

[hasty sable]

The D. probably stands for Davy

[digital spear]

"The world government tried to cover up" by fake naming them or not?

[hasty sable]

So he will be Davy Davy Xebec

[ashen perch]

okay but the list is important to what I was cooking smh

[digital spear]

The fuck

Is this bait

[pulsar path]

I also think it could be what your will decides like if you want the power possibly is different than rejecting it ?

[hasty sable]

But it’s real though

[sturdy steeple]

You just hit a randomiser there, aye?

[proud pivot]

The D means the people of the half moon

I am calling it

[hot cairn]

why would rocks introduced himself by the fake name the world Government supposedly gave him

[hasty sable]

The D is a smiley face

[hot cairn]

ahh

[ashen perch]

no...

[hot cairn]

sure

[pulsar path]

Nope I really dislike Rocks I was so happy when he said he had a secret name

[hot cairn]

at least we agree that next arc will be a new island/location

[digital spear]

Man now I hate it even more

[hasty sable]

Revo island Revo island Revo island

[digital spear]

Hating Rocks for no reason

[hot cairn]

COOK

[digital spear]

I mean thats what I want to know

[ashen perch]

Revos are coming to Elbaf, we're not going to Kamabakka

its too far

[hasty sable]

Dragon backstory next arc

[hot cairn]

nah, not really

[pulsar path]

I have a friend named Rocky and he's not cool enough to be Rocks

[sturdy steeple]

Moria is coming to Wano btw.

[digital spear]

Xebec is not cool enough to be Rocks?

[hot cairn]

before “Lodestar arc soon” my name was “Revos coming to Elbaph”

[brazen prawn]

Well it will at least take 1 and half years Max bcz we even have even Luffy vs imu fight standing in current elbaph

[hot cairn]

cook

[wraith mantle]

after sleeping on this chapter, i think i prefer if rocks wasn't domi reversed, i think i prefer if he just went berserk if imu/garling/gunko killed his wife instead

[urban lodge]

Oda is a coward unfortunately

[hot cairn]

people think it’s BB but it’s going to be Moria

[hasty sable]

Xebec will get a hero’s death

[ashen perch]

idk what to tell you Keep, the Revos kinda have to come to Luffy because their HQ is on the other side of the Redline

[hot cairn]

yeah

[wraith mantle]

maybe i am jumping the gun a little too early, maybe oda will cook with DR'd rocks

but yeah

[urban lodge]

(He won't)

[ashen perch]

its happening and as soon as this arc

[hasty sable]

Roger will kill Rocks to save Teach and Eris on his request

[pulsar path]

No my friend not cool enough to be related to rocks so him being Davey fixes the whole conundrum but still I like Davey D. Xebec more other than that cus the syllables role better than rocks d Xebec

[proud pivot]

I wonder why would imu who has their real body + gorrossei + Shamrock in Holy land ask for help and recruit the other HKs from Elbaf when they are so strong they can neg top tiers.

Does this mean teech really has a counter for Imu

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/vince-carter-emotional-vince-carter-nba-coach-crying-nba-coach-hands-out-nba-coach-waving-hands-gif-13283660107289129739

[golden valley]

It could just be, the longer you are in the abyss, the greater powers you get. Which brings me to the fact, the longer you’re within BB darkness the worse you come out

[hot cairn]

ah wait, Keeper was making fun of Arsal with the Moria thing lol

[urban lodge]

It's gonna be some stupid bullshit like he resists it through his love of Teach just long enough for Roger and Garp to kill him

[brazen prawn]

That would be legendary I will like that also

[ionic palm]

wonder how long we're even going to be in the Elbaph arc, we're already 38 chapters in and around half of that has consisted of two flashbacks lulz

[wraith mantle]

i think DR'd rocks will kill eris

[hasty sable]

Xebec is a good guy

[sturdy steeple]

Who? Me? I would never.

[pulsar path]

I gotta be real teach fruit is 100010 percent Imu weakness. I like Nika is even with Imu like they are equel and one can't exactly win over the other

[hasty sable]

Yeah I do think he may kill Eris

[urban lodge]

Probably

[sturdy steeple]

Moria is indeed coming to Wano.
Several arcs later!

[hasty sable]

Also Whitebeard will have known who Teach was all along

[pulsar path]

Yes 😞 but some how BB will understand

[brazen prawn]

He's dead

[hot cairn]

Arsal will claim he was right anyway if it happens

[hot cairn]

no he’s not

[ionic palm]

will he even remember that by then lulz

[pulsar path]

Moriah was scared by koby and persona

Perona

[hasty sable]

Mihawk CD is Moria Kozuki tier btw

[digital spear]

I mean regardless of Xebec, your friend just isnt cool enough to be called Rocky in general then

[pulsar path]

Perona persona

[brazen prawn]

Then let's call him

[hot cairn]

yes

[hot cairn]

?

[digital spear]

Your lame ass friend being called Rocky remains a problem

Steal his name

[pulsar path]

They have seniority tho 😞

[ornate tartan]

Oda wouldn’t have made buggy a yonko and make him the first pirate luffy ever faced after romance dawn if he wasn’t relevant to the plot

[wraith mantle]

my goats rocks and ida will die this flashback 💔

this flashback fucking sucks

[glacial ice]

so rocks was never evil but imu turned him evil and the responsibility to protect teach and rocks' wife (forgot her name) fell upon roger and garp since everyone else ran away with the treasure?

[ashen perch]

peak?

[graceful belfry]

Moria Kozuki is peak, though

[hot cairn]

Kozuki Moria wasnt bad

[hasty sable]

It’s not enough of anything to be bad it’s more… why?

Mihawk CD is actually bad though

[brazen prawn]

Well that's some discussing matter

[digital spear]

See I like Kozuki Moria because the Kanji of Gecko reversed is Kozuki

That makes sense

[urban lodge]

Because he's Cross Guild's future poneglyph reader

[digital spear]

^

[hasty sable]

Ugh

[pulsar path]

I mean let's not add in his legendary legacy of basicly being Roger second son or possibly Rayleigh blood son and being one of two apprentices of the "greatest pirate crew" to ever sail

[digital spear]

Woria

[ionic palm]

eh, he absolutely is considering how destructive Rocks was. Killed an Admiral, left plenty of shit in ruins, killed many others, and so on. The only artificial evil was Imu's DRing him and probably getting mercy killed by Garp and Roger.

[hasty sable]

I hate One Piece now

[sturdy steeple]

Mihawk CD is good but also it sucks that we have Shanks with that already.
But I’m fine as long as Oda gives that man anything to not be a carton stand.

[hot cairn]

I don’t really care about Mihawk so it doesn’t matter

[pulsar path]

Tbh Moriah and Oden have very similar facial features

[graceful belfry]

Yeah, the Moria thing isn’t entirely random but was still beyond anything I could’ve predicted for the character lol

[pulsar path]

Same windows peak same nose I think same eyebrows?

[hot cairn]

agreed

[digital spear]

Woria believers always knew

[hasty sable]

Moria reading poneglyphs would make the Kozuki twist actually bad

[pulsar path]

In all honesty in Japanese it was in plain site

[ornate tartan]

exactly, but people think since he isn’t strong he isn’t one of the most important characters in the final saga

[pulsar path]

The kanji is reversed

[hot cairn]

why, One Piece is really good these days

[ashen perch]

Moria's always been tied into Wano, the connection didnt surprise me much but the Kozuki part was definitely a shocker

[digital spear]

*good

[hasty sable]

I don’t really hate it

[graceful belfry]

I should learn Japanese

[hasty sable]

I hate this idea

[sturdy steeple]

Moria reading poneglyphs would make Cross Guild an actual threat.

[wraith mantle]

i hate how predictable the rest of this god valley flashback is

• God Valley will get lulusia'd
• rocks will kill eris
• garp roger will kill rocks

[hot cairn]

Mihawk being a CD is not the end of the world

[pulsar path]

I mean to be honest buggy is strong as hell but it's like usopp and NamI with power doesn't change they would still run away lmao

[hasty sable]

It’s almost over anyway so I don’t mind

[ashen perch]

you are here for 12 more years

[brazen prawn]

Bcz it's peak now peak 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[proud pivot]

can moria's seraphim read poneglyphs then? if that's true Teech is definitely the one to be finding the one piece first

[ashen perch]

no escaping anytime soon

[pulsar path]

I would like to lmao but we have dawn and dusk and his other YouTube channel to do it for us 🤣🤣

[hasty sable]

Reading it all at once will not have that issue. The twist is already that Rocks is a good person who was done wrong by Imu.

And that Teach is kind of perverting his legacy for personal gain

[sturdy steeple]

I… What?

[wraith mantle]

so

[pulsar path]

I mean Oden and his father can't read em right.

[hot cairn]

I think he meant the flashback

[ashen perch]

oh

[wraith mantle]

teech's body is "unique", does that mean rocks had the same uniqueness?

[ashen perch]

yeah I just noticed lol

[brazen prawn]

I think we have too see that what he will do i think he will resist domi reversi

[sturdy steeple]

Not necessarily.

[digital spear]

Oden cant?

Of course he can

[ornate tartan]

Usopp has done a lot of superhuman things in One Piece, but most people too busy using Yonkos and crazy mfs as a benchmark for usopp😂

u can call him cowardly but i don’t think he’s completely weak, and he will improve a lot during the final saga

[sturdy steeple]

His uniqueness might be coming from his mother.

[hasty sable]

I think he will partially resist it

[sturdy steeple]

Or he’s just special as in he’s some kind of mutant.

[hasty sable]

But he will have to be put down like a rabid dog

[proud pivot]

Blackbeard became what the World Government propaganda made Rock look like. They created the guy they feared

You can't blame the guy who went through that past

[hasty sable]

Horrible fate

[hot cairn]

they both can

[pulsar path]

Didn't his father say he can't read them ether

[wraith mantle]

i feel like the davy clan maybe humans who were experimented on

[brazen prawn]

Well he's a davy though

[pulsar path]

Are you sure ?

[wraith mantle]

the whole lineage is just genetic freaks

[urban lodge]

They can both read them

[hasty sable]

For Xebec it was liberation. “The world is not yours!” For Teach, he just wants everything. But he will succeed where Xebec failed.

[urban lodge]

Oden read them for Roger after all lol

[digital spear]

No, he definitely can because Oden can too

[sturdy steeple]

Davy doesn’t necessarily mean his body is unique. We’re yet to explore that.

[hot cairn]

they said in Zou that it stopped with Oden, so Momo didn’t learn how to read them

[proud pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-blackbeard-haki-evil-laugh-one-piece-blackbeard-haki-gif-8010676475224775922

He will

[digital spear]

You know Oden can definitely read the poneglyphs right

[sturdy steeple]

All we know so far that it’s a clan Imu hated for some specific reason, lol.

[ashen perch]

it might be because he is some kind of hybrid, Eris might be a special race and that combined with Davy made BB's body different

[pulsar path]

That's what I'm confused about yeah it starting adding up lien they did take Oden to do that

[wraith mantle]

bro

[pulsar path]

Why this dude not teaching others than

[ashen perch]

wdym bro

[wraith mantle]

can we stop with special race piece

eris looks normal

[ashen perch]

well its BB

he is the most special guy ever

[urban lodge]

Teach WILL get 50 more layers of special and you WILL like it

[wraith mantle]

😭

[sturdy steeple]

BB is the main character of his own series.

[wraith mantle]

thats why hes so fat

so many layers

[ashen perch]

lmao

[sturdy steeple]

Well yeah

Because he’s still a goofy goober

[hasty sable]

Blackbeard is straight up the guy who will kill the big bad for good

[pulsar path]

The sequel to one piece will swap BB for Luffy making Luffy the villain of the series in a what if scenarios alternate time like

[hasty sable]

Unfortunate that he will need to be put down too

[proud pivot]

Oda is directly stating it out to us that teech is special

[digital spear]

I think if you hate every special bloodline youre just being pretentious

[hasty sable]

I think Teach will get a pretty pathetic ending

[wraith mantle]

i hope so

[pulsar path]

This is about him being a Davey

[wraith mantle]

die how you live

[ashen perch]

you know what would actually be a twist at this point, what would be unpredictable and shocking and cool?

[urban lodge]

He'll die like a bitch for sure

[ashen perch]

BB dying before the final war

[ionic palm]

Teach's ending is probably going to be him sinking to the bottom of the ocean and drowning with the rest of his crew.

[hasty sable]

Blackbeard becoming a full on ally would be the cooler twist

[digital spear]

Blackbeard will team up with Luffy and sacrifice himself to save the world and kill Imu and everyone will cry for him

[graceful belfry]

Teech might be the character who dies drowning

[wraith mantle]

death by the DF weakness

[ashen perch]

its gotten to that point where Oda is making it so blatantly obvious

[pulsar path]

In with you

[hot cairn]

why do people like this idea so much

[wraith mantle]

poetic

[hasty sable]

Because it’s cool

[hot cairn]

BB killing Imu sounds boring as fuck

[ashen perch]

that its actually disgusting me

[proud pivot]

That's the most BS ever, xebec literally said The "PROMISE" ought to be kept

[ionic palm]

only cause of death that we haven't been shown in this franchise

[digital spear]

Wait I didnt know you ball like thaz

[hasty sable]

Blackbeard killing Imu just works for the story

[wraith mantle]

holy shit

cook

but idk if oda will do that

its too dark

[hasty sable]

Luffy will punch Imu to near deatg first don’t worry

[wraith mantle]

drowning is the worst death imo

[proud pivot]

its not obvious

[ashen perch]

BB becoming a full on ally is exponentially better than him just being a villain again, I would actually like that

[proud pivot]

BB being the final villain sound more obvious

[hot cairn]

Luffy vs BB for the One Piece and then hes done before Final War happens

[proud pivot]

there is a reason Oda took more time to develop teach

[digital spear]

Ass

[ionic palm]

I mean, surely we'll get a death by DF weakness at some point

everyone that's followed OP know about DF users being unable to swim and will drown if thrown into bodies of water but yet we've yet to see one actually occur onscreen, even after a near incoming 30 years.

[digital spear]

BB should be in the final war

[brazen prawn]

Yeah this will happen now matter what i think bb will have to do that even though if he don't know what it is oda will make him do this bcz foreshadowing is on whole other level when it comes to oda

[hot cairn]

it’s super boring Archer

[digital spear]

How is that boring

[proud pivot]

teech is gonna be the final villain, don't switch sides after this chapter folks.

Strongest devil fruits

Pacifistas and seraphims inbound

Pluton inbound

YC+ captains (Lafitte, Van Augur)

Kuzan

Kaido + BM?(maybe)

Mark my words, you all will not be laughing 50 chapters from now.

There is a reason Oda took more time to develop BB than that black puddle

[ashen perch]

its just getting very predictable, I feel like Oda has been anything but that lately so I am hoping for the best with BB

[hasty sable]

What I am expecting right now is an enemy of my enemy situation between Luffy and Teach out of convenience. Then Imu being the true climax boss and Blackbeard being a smaller stakes, “post-final boss” who stabs Luffy in the back and steals Imu’s power.

[ornate tartan]

I was with u until u said Kaido and Big Mom😭😭😭

[hot cairn]

an ally sounds boriiiiing

[digital spear]

HE SAID MAYBE

[proud pivot]

maybe, there's a possibility, rest are confirmed

[ionic palm]

everyone's all here just feuding regarding BB and Imu, meanwhile Im over here waiting for what Brook and Gunko's past with each other are since this is the first actual look of actual Brook backstory we've ever gotten pre-piracy 🥀

[ashen perch]

him pulling some Marineford BB BS sounds so horrible idk, I would rather him do it as an ally if he is gonna put his hands on Imu and help beat him

[digital spear]

So glue

[golden valley]

Blackbeard becomes an “ally” and then tries to kill Luffy. 😂

Theyre not gonna be besties

[hot cairn]

well if I have to choose between BB being an ally and the dogshit idea of BB killing Imu

[urban lodge]

Blackbeard team up is so unbelievably ass (Oda will do it)

[hot cairn]

I would choose the ally option

[ornate tartan]

pluton most likely needs the mother flame just like uranus

[pulsar path]

I think Gunkos family did what doffy dad did and tried to reject the CD and start a new country and Imu didnt like this so he attacked killed Gunkos family and took her prisoner as his servant as punishment

[hasty sable]

I want him to do something in-character and backstabbing the heroes for personal ambition is essential Blackbeard. But you can make it more interesting by having him team up with Luffy first.

[sturdy steeple]

Thematically, I don’t think BB can really be the final villain. One of the reasons Imu is a threat is because you supposedly need two specific fruits to fight him off. The team up might happen at this point.

[golden valley]

Bb would kill Imu when theyre at their weakest

It would never be where Imu is at their strongest

[pulsar path]

Right but Loki has that other fruit 🤔

[digital spear]

Im glad people are warming up to Luffy BB teamup

[ionic palm]

eh, I think Loki's fruit being legendary is a fakeout.

[golden valley]

So Imu Post-Luffy fight

[hasty sable]

I think if he is the final villain it will have lesser stakes than Imu. It would be a more personal affair.

[hot cairn]

This just sounds a Lot like some other series

[hasty sable]

And happen immediately after Imu

[wet condor]

This is what I like

[hot cairn]

it bugs me a lot

[wet condor]

It feels more personal

[sturdy steeple]

If it’s real.
But then again Loki in the final war is gonna happen regardless.

[wet condor]

More bad blood between BB and Luffy. Personal beef

[pulsar path]

Even before all this it always seemed kinda obvious they would need to team up to take down the wg for war I feel like it's always been lingering

[wet condor]

At least on Luffy's end

[elfin oak]

poor Garp

[ornate tartan]

oda isn’t shafting his main character for a BB revenge fantasy😂

think about it like this, How tf would Luffy beat someone with Imu Powers AND can turn G5 off

U think Luffy and whoever would defeat Imu just to fight the same powers again but with extra hax this time?😭😭😭😭

[pulsar path]

But also Luffy teaming up with people seemed like a hint

[hasty sable]

Luffy vs Teach might be more to decide what the world looks like after Imu.

[proud pivot]

After elbaf ends teach is gonna have a bounty over 5 billion for sure

[golden valley]

Eh. Luffy and BB’s dreams both encompass the world, still high stakes but an added layer of personal tension

[hasty sable]

Since Teach is also getting ancient weapons

[hot cairn]

and after they beat him what do you think BB will do

[golden valley]

Thr world is getting flooded

[pulsar path]

Who says ether of them can turn gear 5th off. It's the sun god fruit on almost positive teach fruit can't effect him

[golden valley]

Its so obvious

[golden valley]

World flooded, red line destroyed

[wet condor]

Thematically in what sense?

[ionic palm]

I kinda want Loki for SH to happen now, but unfortunately, Sanji had a perfect point, how do you fit him on the ship lulz

[hot cairn]

so BB final villain chat? I haven’t seen any Imu loyalist so far

[ornate tartan]

well that’s true but the power is still in it’s essence a devil fruit,so i’m not sure it can bypass the yami fruit thing

[hasty sable]

What would be awesome to me is Luffy seeing that they’re just going to repeat the mistakes by keeping the structure of the World Government intact and doing something destructive to prevent that from happening. The world gets a true reset.

[pulsar path]

Well they have a bunch of Adam wood at ther disposal make a bigger ship that can doc the sun y in it

[proud pivot]

like be serious nobody loves imu more than teach, they only like the Aura farming he's been doing in the last chapter, Teach hard carries one piece rn

[urban lodge]

Ok bbps role

[ornate tartan]

😭

[golden valley]

Imu is particularly only a imu farmer rn tho ngl

[ionic palm]

eh, kinda too much just for a single man no? Having to build a new giant ship just to fit an oversized giant that's too big even for giant standards.

[golden valley]

Their allegations is being a gooner

Thats NOT a good look

[frail kindle]

Imu farmer

[hot cairn]

I don’t think Luffy would care about that

[hasty sable]

I think he might by the end

[digital spear]

Akainu and Shamrock arent enemies

[hasty sable]

After learning Joyboy’s story and fighting Imu

[hot cairn]

talk to @urban lodge

[pulsar path]

I mean throughout the series there has been a theme of devil fruit that's counter each other and I feel soecicly darkness and sun god would probably fall under that? You totally could be right tho but I feel bb wasn't worried about Nika fighting him and only focused on killing.
Imu? I mean to think there's a power that can counter Imu sinal apt as crazy or maybe it's even a weakness triangle like teach beats Imu Imu beats Luffy luffys beats teach in powers?

[wet condor]

I mean the enslavement vs freedom theme is more clearly embodied in the Luffy vs Imu dynamic. If you want to say that's the largest or most overarching theme of OP and that necessitates Luffy vs Imu, there's an argument to be made there. But BB vs Luffy is more about how one should live freely — or more generally how a person should live and that's also pretty important

[pulsar path]

I mean he would get help from giants

[wet condor]

But I just care way more about Blackbeard vs Luffy regardless even if Blackbeard isn't the final villain

[urban lodge]

Some people really struggle to understand people like characters for different reasons

[proud pivot]

Did my comment got deleted? lol

[pulsar path]

BB is any means necessary character

[frail kindle]

Yes

[digital spear]

Imu farmer

[stone terrace]

I like this one

[hot cairn]

he’ll be too busy with making his dream come true, that kind of decision will come from someone like Koby, Vivi or Sabo

[proud pivot]

Mods are confirmed celestial dragons 😭🙏

[pulsar path]

It has to be other series lol

[hasty sable]

Koby isn’t the type to do that. He will oppose Luffy’s dream on every level.

[sturdy steeple]

In the sense that Imu will be the main villain that directly opposes the themes of OP.
I still don’t understand what BB wants though so there’s that. But from what I’m seeing Imu is a literal God.

[frail kindle]

Maybe read the rules and don't talk about other series in here

[hot cairn]

me too

[hasty sable]

Koby is becoming another Garp flaws and all. He will grow where Garp didn’t.

[sturdy steeple]

Die?

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-blackbeard-blackbeard-one-piece-marshal-d-teach-teach-gif-12272054704032351462

[proud pivot]

I didn't even give spoilers, I just drew an Obvious parallel that has nothing to spoil that certain series

[hot cairn]

We don’t even know Luffy’s dream lol

[final trench]

They tryna diss the goat again? Tsk tsk tsk

[hasty sable]

Koby opposing the government and staging a coup against Marine HQ pls

[stone terrace]

I guess being in sword is a step in the right direction

[distant vine]

OP fans when their teacher tells them to do their work: "This is like the Celestial Dragons"

[elfin oak]

does Koby know Luffy's dream?

[hasty sable]

Koby thinks Luffy’s dream will destroy the world

[hot cairn]

it would be cool if after Elbaph we get an arc focus in the Navy

[hasty sable]

He’s right but it’s necessary

[hot cairn]

Koby doesn’t know Luffy’s real dream

[ornate tartan]

that could be it

[hot cairn]

peak

[winter oasis]

he has an idea that luffy will have to destroy the world to reset it

i agree with archer here

[distant vine]

Well not necessarily destroy the world but like hurt it incidentally

[winter oasis]

it's also the most compelling option

[distant vine]

Better in Koby's mind he has it than Luffy

[winter oasis]

i dont want koby to be converted, i want him to be defeated and have to make sense of what happened to reconstruct the world

[pulsar path]

But is also could not be this at all lol theory crafting be fun I guess

[hot cairn]

that’s true but I’m just saying that Koby doesn’t really know Luffy’s dream

[ornate tartan]

he already kind of does this every island he goes to on a smaller scale

[hasty sable]

I do want Koby to grow in a way that Garp failed to. But he should oppose Luffy imo.

[hot cairn]

he should def oppose Luffy

[pulsar path]

Final battle will really be koby vs Luffy

[hot cairn]

it’s more interesting that way

[pulsar path]

Honestly am I the only one seeing oda set up this image again but with the current versions of them ??

[hot cairn]

I thought Oda was going to make them allies but that panel of Koby saying he’ll stop Luffy is a good sign

[final trench]

Yea

[sturdy steeple]

But that’s on you, yeah.
There’s an argument to be made for both of them. But the way I see it Imu is the real calamity here that needs the entire cast to unite to defeat him hence I think of him as the main villain. He’s that functioning detail that keeps the whole world in shackles.

[final trench]

Luffy blackbeard koby law kidd

[pulsar path]

Yamato= kaido katakuri = big mom, bb and white beard, Loki and rocks , Garp and Coby, Luffy and Roger

[final trench]

Oh yea and yamato

[pulsar path]

I was trying to fit law and kid in some way

[digital spear]

It doesnt have to be the same characters

[final trench]

They’ll probably show up mid battle

[pulsar path]

I mean this also could be recreated with he straw hats

[hot cairn]

Blackbeard can turn into a real calamity tho

[final trench]

Or law picks up yamato

[digital spear]

Sabo will also be there

[sturdy steeple]

I’m not on board with Blackbeard eating Imu’s fruit.

[pulsar path]

Yeah we definitely can addd in some supernovas like Zoro, kid and law if they regain there will

[hot cairn]

nah me neither, I wasnt talking about that

[sturdy steeple]

That’d be cheap in my opinion. Especially right after Imu’s defeat.

[digital spear]

Thats not a fruit

[pulsar path]

Omg Zoro Domi reversies vs Luffy 😭

I wouldn't be able to take that

[sturdy steeple]

Well, whatever that is.

[hot cairn]

I’m talking about BB getting ancient weapons and stuff

[elfin oak]

guys what scene do you like more between these two:

[final trench]

Imu doesnt have a fruit

[elfin oak]

1

2

[pulsar path]

2!

[elfin oak]

which one you choose

[hot cairn]

Blackbeard can become a calamity

[urban lodge]

I don't even care if Blackbeard is last, I just hate the idea of him stealing Imu's powers with every fiber of my being

[hot cairn]

without killing Imu

[digital spear]

Lets say I like 2s panel more

[pulsar path]

This is the peakast moment

[sturdy steeple]

Well yeah, but like
Ancient weapons don’t really hold a candle to Imu’s powers in general me thinks.

[hot cairn]

oh

[hot cairn]

fair enough

[pulsar path]

I remember reading that chapter when it came out omg

Almost made me switch my tablets background form Zoro cutting hody

[native seal]

you just manifested it

bb final villain bros you won

[digital spear]

[urban lodge]

Stop, I'm not Sb

[sturdy steeple]

It can definitely turn the world upside down and this is where I agree. But Imu’s reign is far more devastating issue. Again, I think we’re dealing with a literal God over here.

[final trench]

Always

#nextarc 🤫 🦑 🌓

[stone terrace]

Poro

[digital spear]

Imu will try to possess Blackbeard but Blackbeards multiple soul thing saves him because Imu cant possess all 3

[hot cairn]

you’re a BB final villain truther YC?

[golden valley]

Zoro’s is more raw + Zoro is more of a goat + Zoro’s has the better art style

[urban lodge]

Obviously yes I would prefer if Imu is last but if they team up to take Imu down (which would still be bad), at least Imu is the big climactic fight

[distant vine]

Need Zoro to do this with Imu or BB

All I ask is for one Oda

[pulsar path]

Sorry better version

[ornate tartan]

Stealing Imus power theory is becoming the new ZKK

the whole requirement for this theory to even work is to have the source of Imu power come from a devil fruit😂 If it’s not this shit is cooked

[hot cairn]

so you think it’ll go Luffy defeats BB and then Luffy defeats Imu?

[golden valley]

FMI Zoro was so clear of FMI Sanji

What was Oda thinking

[digital spear]

Wdym

[pulsar path]

Tbh at this point I was looking at Luffy like wtf

[golden valley]

Making sanji look like that compared to his rival

[hot cairn]

yeah that’s def the new ZKK for me

I’m not a fan of the idea

[final trench]

No it isnt

[stone terrace]

:(

[ashen perch]

yeah thats the thing like, okay BB has stolen Imu's powers but where do you even go from there

[pulsar path]

Tbh I'm not even impressed with zoro cutting hody is that he keeped his speed as good as a fish man unde water

[vale heath]

https://tenor.com/view/roronoa-zoro-zoro-sword-slash-haki-gif-23559358

[urban lodge]

It's so stupid, it's just prolonging things for no reason

[final trench]

Soon

[dense rapids]

He could be from the sky islands

[urban lodge]

Just so he can check the final villain box

[digital spear]

Its not a single devilfruit, its the power that is partly responsible for the creation of devilfruits

[hot cairn]

like then we technically have to fight Imu again??? What

[final trench]

Hmmm

[hot cairn]

I don’t get the appeal

[golden valley]

Ye sanji also does the same thing earlier

[pulsar path]

He's got the booger booger fruit tho too

[urban lodge]

And the people who complain about regeneration would clap when it's BB who has it

[dense rapids]

I know I’m saying based off the name of the attack

[pulsar path]

Show I forget fishmen island alot lamp

[graceful grove]

we about to see Rocks die as one of the good ppl yea sure Oda will turn his son into a bigger villain than the devil himself

[dense rapids]

He could’ve modeled the attack after the bazooka

[digital spear]

Thats why Imu will possess BB instead

[pulsar path]

I'm not contradicting in just saying he's interesting

[hot cairn]

Ass

[ashen perch]

think about it, lets assume that Yami is one of the fruits that are required to beat the Devil, how the hell is BB getting put down when he will have both Yami and the Devil?

[digital spear]

@hot cairn

[tranquil blade]

He fights Luffy and loses

[final trench]

Either way imu is dying before blackbeard

[digital spear]

Final villain is Imubeard

[hot cairn]

and then what happens

[final trench]

[digital spear]

Thats the final villain

[native seal]

this is where dragon comes in and becomes the mc by beating both bb and imu up

[stone terrace]

The final villain hasn't been revealed yet

[hot cairn]

also, Oda would have to draw the same fight twice

[ashen perch]

but like the whole idea is potentially that Luffy cant pull it off without Yami because its one of the two important fruits, how does it work

[hot cairn]

he isn’t going to do that

[final trench]

Dont flatter yourself bub

[sturdy steeple]

No, lol, the opposite might happen.
When I said final villain I just meant that thematically he won’t act as the main plot device to directly oppose the undergoing OP themes that is embodied in freedom. He has his own understanding of what it is.
And that’s precisely why both Luffy and him might potentially ally just to fight Imu and his corrupted reign.

[digital spear]

Its mother nature who has been slumbering for 10,000 years

[hot cairn]

ass

[final trench]

Get that nigga past burgess

[digital spear]

Why

[digital spear]

Nobody is past Burgess

[pulsar path]

Yeah but that wasn't against a fishmen just squid guy

[graceful grove]

this is the most likely outcome. i can see a scenario where Luffy saves him from it and then they team up for a common enemy

[pulsar path]

Still a feat but

[ornate tartan]

how will Imu die before blackbeard

u think we getting Imus flashback and the history of the Void Century before Teach goes down?😂 just think about it from a non biased realistic perspective

[tranquil blade]

Well who said you need the yami yami to beat Imu

[ashen perch]

the only way I can see BB getting the devil work is if it causes BB to explode on the spot

[tranquil blade]

You may just need the Nika fruit

[distant vine]

I still think Rocks aura farming settled that its BB final villian

[pulsar path]

Than why did joy boy lose

[hot cairn]

ah I see

[final trench]

Then whats the point of 2

[hot cairn]

it sounds really boring man

[golden valley]

I thought u were talking about Sanji going fast underwater like zoro

[tranquil blade]

Idk he got betrayed or something

[pulsar path]

I'm pretty sure Nika and Imu are =

[distant vine]

Idk if Imu can come back from that. The inherited will has been set

[final trench]

Also saying that like nika himself didnt lose is crazy but cook

[ashen perch]

I mean we know theres 2 fruits that Rocks wanted and we know theres one fruit that BB spent his entire life trying to get so its what makes the most sense

[hot cairn]

I would prefer Imu and BB getting done individually

[digital spear]

You think there will still be like over 100 chapters left after Blackbeard already died?

[pulsar path]

Na specifically against a fishmen tho but still Sanji probably could do it too 😞

[hot cairn]

Final villain convos switch everytime a new chapter comes out LOL

[ashen perch]

Imu v BB will just happen in Hachinosu War, trust

[ornate tartan]

Why is everyone treating this 2 fruit thing like the gospel

and completely forgetting important things such as Poseidon being 100% required

[hot cairn]

one week is BB and the next week is Imu

[pulsar path]

Let's assume one of the fruits rocks wanted was the yomi and we know the other one Harold had an Loki ate why did rocks never mention Nika? 1. He already knew it couldn't beat Imu 2. He actually didn't know Nika fruit existed

[ashen perch]

this is how we get a final war without the stink of BB on it

[sturdy steeple]

That just means Oda is a good author for keeping our expectations in check.

[digital spear]

Could still happen, they get their focus individually anyway

[tranquil blade]

Idk man

[hot cairn]

true

[ornate tartan]

the ancient weapons are going to be arguably just as important as the fruits

[urban lodge]

And we won't find out what these dumb fruits are for another 100 chapters 😔

[golden valley]

I don’t think BB getting “too OP” is particularly a reason to why Bb cant get demon powers, I just dont want it to happen cuz it’ll just be Imu all over again with power nullification and high destructive power

[ornate tartan]

if not more

[hot cairn]

Hachinosu War is not real

[tranquil blade]

There's really not enough info for us to assume that it has to be those two fruits

[final trench]

Yea because the marines are scared

[pulsar path]

I'm curious why would BB want to go to the one piece anyways?

Obviously he does

[digital spear]

I dont think itll be the same

[ashen perch]

its not even just about BB getting too OP per se, its about him being likely the key to beating the devil. How is it even gonna work out when he becomes the Devil himself?

[hot cairn]

LOL, at least we’ll know what fruit Elbaph has

[urban lodge]

It's genuinely so stupid, recycling a fight that will have just happened

[tranquil blade]

What if both fruits can defeat Imu but you only really need one to do so

[golden valley]

I would like for BB to be unique ability wise and different. Works if no one gets the abyss powers imo

[digital spear]

Why do people think that it would be recylvling

[pulsar path]

But lien why did joy boy fail than?

[digital spear]

He will

[tranquil blade]

and Imu just has two separate counters

[digital spear]

Nobody has Imagination here

[final trench]

The yami is most likely abyss related

[ashen perch]

ehh

[tranquil blade]

I literally told you he probably got betrayed or something of the sort

[hot cairn]

yeah that sounds super boring

[digital spear]

And to think people wanted Blackbeard to get Kaidos fruit lol

[ornate tartan]

U can’t call Imu a regen merchant and then turn around and say Teach is gonna steal that same very power that u slander Imu for then turn around again and glaze Blackbeard😂 peak irony

[urban lodge]

Because that's what will happen if he steals Imu's powers. Yeah, he still has the quakes and darkness, but it doesn't matter, if he gets Imu's power that's what he'll be using

[pulsar path]

I'm pretty sure we already know he wasnt betrayed and it was because he couldn't unite the word hence the apology

[ashen perch]

the final fruit that BB should get is the krakken

[digital spear]

He will use everything

[tranquil blade]

The WHAT

[ashen perch]

krakken

[tranquil blade]

Arsal I saw that

[pulsar path]

Joy boy set up contingency

[hot cairn]

isn’t that theory dead

[ashen perch]

no its not

[digital spear]

What theory

[tranquil blade]

No Krakkenbeard is still possible

[urban lodge]

That doesn't make it any less boring, Luffy will already have fought Blackbeard and Imu once

[ashen perch]

the krakkenbeard theory lives on

[digital spear]

Not that much

[pulsar path]

I mean also

[final trench]

I mean, isnt the whole point of a krakken to be in the water

[pulsar path]

If bb pirates are attack holy land this min

[stone terrace]

Bb cant have both the kraken and imus fruit

[golden valley]

How would it be different? If we assume Imu wont be getting dropped in a team fight, it’ll just be Luffy countering the abyss powers again added with the fact he has to deal with 3 more DF’s. Bb of course would amp his crew if he did get abyss powers, so there is change in that.

[stone terrace]

Pick 1 you greedy bastards

[ashen perch]

he will only get the krakken

[vernal ravine]

the third fruit of kurohige is imu's fruit

[urban lodge]

Just give him a cool unique 3rd fruit

[vernal ravine]

just wait

[pulsar path]

Isn't BB about to face Imu soon anyways?

[urban lodge]

Kraken is fine

[ashen perch]

I am sticking to the krakken, BB will be a krakken

[digital spear]

So Imus fruit is kraken

[final trench]

Yes

[pulsar path]

If he is the one attacking holy land?

[final trench]

He’s gonna wake imu up

[pulsar path]

It could be the revs tho

[final trench]

And imu has to leave gunkos body

[sturdy steeple]

It takes several people to defeat the demon only for the demon to be absorbed by BB, who is supposedly the main key to defeating one.
How do you expect other people to defeat him next then lol

[tranquil blade]

Well look if it requires both fruits to beat Imu then either A. Blackbeard doesn't get Imu's power or B. Imu's power just immediately kills him when he tries to take it

[pulsar path]

Also

Could Imu be what took down an evil Nika?

In the past

[graceful grove]

kidnap oda

[urban lodge]

What would be peak is if he gets a 3rd one before that and his greedy ass still tries to steal Imu's and he explodes

[ashen perch]

BB exploding as soon as he gets Imu's powers is the best possible outcome of him stealing Imu's powers

[pulsar path]

Tbh still not convinced devil fruits even do that

[golden valley]

M-More Haki Bloom…!😭

Like yeah, idk of its my imagination thats cooking me here but I literally can’t see a scenario where that just works.

[pulsar path]

Maybe two zoans

[sturdy steeple]

Imu’s power still prolly comes from dark magic so idk if he can really steal that

[pulsar path]

But I think if s fruit doesn't have a will they won't fight

[sturdy steeple]

We’re talking about literal deities and magic here

[golden valley]

Unless Luffy for whatever reason doesn’t hit his peak against IMU of all people

[pulsar path]

Aka paramecia and logia are compatible

[digital spear]

Yeah isnt that exciting to find out

[dense rapids]

So does captain John go back to hachinosu to hide the treasure

It seems weird he would go back to pirate after everything that happens on gv, but ig it seems like big mom went back afterwards searching for kaido

[ashen perch]

BB might think that he can eat more than 3 because he is that special and he just proceeds to explode because of his greed

[sturdy steeple]

God I love Gaban

[golden valley]

And he blooms power wise against BB

[elfin oak]

yasotakeru

[sturdy steeple]

Gaban daily appreciation

[ashen perch]

that would be perfect

[pulsar path]

Zoan plus paramecia and logai compatible

[tranquil blade]

So his limit would have to be 3 powers

[pulsar path]

But zoan plus zoan is a no no

[ashen perch]

I am on board, BB will EXPLODE, BBWE

[urban lodge]

Peak

[golden valley]

Get outta here

[elfin oak]

what could be Shanks and Gaban's plan?

[pulsar path]

It took gaben like three seconds to like Luffy

[sturdy steeple]

Bruh

[urban lodge]

Yeah, maybe he can only have one of each type

[woven talon]

Last lode poneglyph, I reckon the arc will end with Gyaban telling Luffy where shanks is waiting for their reunion duel

[graceful grove]

nepotism

[urban lodge]

Actually no, it's probably just 3 in total because he did try to steal 2 other paramecias

[pulsar path]

Ahh cus he's luffys mother

[final trench]

Yall wear this word out

[graceful grove]

it's all part of a plan

[ashen perch]

yeah 3 is the limit but he might not be aware of it

[pulsar path]

Yeah fuck shanks and his nepotism shit

[tranquil blade]

He may think he can eat an unlimited amount of fruits

[pulsar path]

Honestly maybe not if Imu ends up being multiple fruits. He probably isn't but

[golden valley]

Hey, in Oda world, that scenario COULD work. I just don’t see a world where Luffy doesn’t hit his peak against Imu and if that peak requires him needing help with Imu and then BB just stacks that power…then what is he doing?

[tranquil blade]

but idk if he would just explode immediately, I think he'd burn up like Saturn did and then maybe explode

[pulsar path]

Watch a secret villina shows up last min

Shiki or some shit

Enel from the moon

Rock resurrected

[ashen perch]

well its not gonna be fucking SHiki if a secret villain does show up

[sturdy steeple]

Well, I fully expect Luffy to bend red line or something like that anyways in the final fight

[pulsar path]

A technique that brings all the dead back to life

[tranquil blade]

Arsal dont say it

[ashen perch]

Imu was actually the weakest space pirate from his crew

[sturdy steeple]

We’re getting a battle of gods

[woven talon]

I just realized Silvers Rayleigh proll comes from long John silver… I feel so uncultured

[ashen perch]

and his boss is gonna show up after his defeat

[tranquil blade]

Nothing can top 3 fruit Blackbeard or Imu

[pulsar path]

Dude is strong as fuck he was fighting sengoku and Garp! That's crazy

[golden valley]

Imu and space pirate is a theory i never heard

And its funny

[tranquil blade]

Unless we find out Imu is like a low tier demon and there's way stronger ones in hell

[golden valley]

Why tf would Imu be an enel victim

[final trench]

Abyss arc

Woohoo

[tranquil blade]

Worst possible outcome btw

[pulsar path]

I think it's a large chance Imu is an alien

[golden valley]

Holy shit ABYSSSSS ARC

[urban lodge]

Someone even secreter who has manipulated everything in Luffy's life, put every piece in its place to make Luffy who he is now, someone who has planned everything

[golden valley]

ZORO AWAKENS HIS EYE IN THE HELL ARC

[ashen perch]

think of what Rocks said this chapter

[golden valley]

ITS happening

[pulsar path]

Demon and alien can almost be interchangeable

[ashen perch]

"This world is not yours!"

theres a double meaning here if you dig deep

[tranquil blade]

Well the world is no one's

[ashen perch]

because Imu's world, is somewhere else

in space

[tranquil blade]

Okay

[final trench]

I think zoro will during his fight will mihawk

[pulsar path]

Space imus

[final trench]

AYEEEE WE GOIN TO SPACE

Turn the sunny into a flying saucer

https://tenor.com/view/ufo-alien-gif-26685053

[ashen perch]

Imu is gonna be a weird little creature like these guys

[tranquil blade]

Imu being some bum alien or being a low level demon are probably the worst things that could happen, we dont need to have a rabbithole left open like that

[pulsar path]

I'm not going to name it but another series ended early that had. Quick ending where this was the plot. Oda is bestys with that mangaka

[stone terrace]

If bb died after absorbing imu someone in here would assassinate oda

[final trench]

Two piece

[hot cairn]

another 20 years of One Piece

[golden valley]

I do think low tier demons do exist, but Imu isn’t one of them

[tranquil blade]

Now who would that be

[ashen perch]

Imu was the Usopp of the Space Pirates, the BOSS will be real angry when he finds out about his death

[golden valley]

Imu is a GOD TIER DEMON

[urban lodge]

Imu will be powercrept in the first arc of Buffy

[golden valley]

lets get that straight

[stone terrace]

Idk one of the bb fans

[elfin oak]

Enel will side with BB in the final battle

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/hathor-kemetism-kemetismo-goddess-hathor-wicca-gif-26895335

[final trench]

What if the world actually floods so the strawhats have to go to space

gulp