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Wait I have another one uhhh
oh damnn
viral clip vivi
is it safe to assume imuβs old as hell
Yes
yes
no
outlived joyboy type shi
Truth nuke
What do yall think Imu looks like
Blob
luffy or nami
or luffy and nami
nah its got to be nami
that silhouette isnt him?
After this chapter I think thatβs just how they look
What about... nami and luffy
after this chapter. i think rocks teeth are larger than they used to be
nah its got to be nami
thats luffy
Imu looks like the bio lizard from sonic adventure battle 2
goda
Void century vivi
who = owl
what = chicken
what bird is why how and where
Size dilation
i don't think so
unfortunate
why = flamingo because Y stants on a stick and flamingos do as well
okay what about how and where
how is dog
how rhymes iwth cow and where rhymes with where and also bear
but thoseare not birds
(for those not bird inclinded)
oh it can only be birds
yep yep
pigeon
owl = who
what = chicken butt
wait whats like a detective coded bird
that would be good for how
is pigeon how or where
they make cooing noises
i want where to be a vulture but i can't think of a good reasson
yeah i like pidgeon as how. locking it in for how
tom holland pidgeon movie
ifiwasabirdidbeapidgeonsuccumbonetocrumbsandpizzacrustwheneveryfellacaneatfreshfishandlivefatlikeapelican
speaking of, perhaps seagull is where
I get you. Where is so long and gawky, just like vultures
the way they like circle and glide is also where coded
maybe a migratory bird would be good
OH OH OH or a flightless bird because its lack of flight means it doesn't know where
ostrick = where
OR KIWI
are there blind birds
OH wait this made me think of the finches
but no i dont think so
unrelated but there is a type of finch called a vampire finch that drinks blood like well a vampire i suppose supposedly
I thought bats are vampire birds
they drink the blood of the infamous blue footed booby. And the boobies actually let them do it for some reason
i think im gonna lock in kiwi because it looks more confused
well actually no it doesn't so im unlocking it
I always wonder how bats can be mammals
well they milk
i wish synapsids still existed
i want to see what one of those freaks looked like
rip protomammals π you would have lloved mammals
a true sailor
β οΈ ADVANCED THEORY ONLY READ IF YOU TRULY UNDERSTAND ONE PIECE AND HAVE SEVERAL MEDIA LITERACY AWARDS/ CERTIFICATES OF MEDIA LITERACY β οΈ
well you know what they call sailors. sea men.
imu - umi = sea
imu men = domi reversal
akainu domi reversal reversal foreshadowing
β οΈ ADVANCED THEORY β οΈ
This is the chest shanks found roger in
oh yeah we can stop trying to make shiki relevant, if anyone was still hanging on
low effort bait 
So do you think the thing is you gotta get the actual body. Or will real imu be just as ethereal
Not yetβ¦
Wait I thought people were saying this as a joke that's pretty cool
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ill pick rocks's wife next chapter
you got this redbei
I did read, sorry was at work
rocks agenda is FINISHED
it happened
the whitebeard named attack happened
Oda had to nerf WB
and it didn't even scratch imu
confirmed wasnt trying when he fought roger
π«‘
TRUE
he just forgot the names cause he was old
IMU TOP 1
he even forgot blackbeard was his adopted son
I mean yes via regen
And also
not really being Imu
Just saturn but controlled
They can all destroy imu, imu just doesn't care
They don't know that "haki trancends all" yet
haki wasn't invented yet
I doubt imu would be countered by gaban level haki tbh
needs to be at least joyboy level to do anything
basically only luffy will get there
But zoro tho
zoro needs to kill kaido first then we talk
Rocks doesnβt have a black blade does he
he was going to
Someone fell for Rumor mans rumors
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They all did
its sad to see
Why do you think Garp only put points into haki
he's simple
well that too
Kaido just wanted to downplay G5 fr
He doesnβt believe in that shit.He was making a temu DF army
smiles/gifters vs homies
Just thinking about zoros about epiphany about swordsmanship in alabasta. Just like a swordsman choosing what he can cut joyboy probably had a similar philosophy with haki since there was no hostility to the allies
Maybe a black blade can touch imu
homies do have some cracker biscuit soldier homies
So Imu has the control fruit or smth
Also
Where's Robin? Was she kidnapped by the cp0?
Oda can go so many ways with robin right now because what she did in wano looks like a self domi reversi if its not solely her fruit
Nah, that'd be silly
She likes to keep news to herself intil its the time to share it
I think shes at least seen a demon
How was she supposed to know
Well yeah, demon child nick Robin
Luffy kinda prefers to be misinformed
From the news innit
And at would be a appropriate time to drop that nuke of a revelation
I swear he tells her not to worry about going over all the news with him
I misunderstood the comment
I thought you meant pre timeskip
Nono, I mean his shenanigans at Mary geoise
Luffy just asked her to not tell him
I dont know if it would fit within the timeline but she might have gotten second hand information about demonkind if the elegia incident is canon
And was ensured he would be fine last I checked
Garp:
Bro did not give a single shit he attacked his bossβs bossβs boss and still is on the payroll
I wonder if hell eventually fight on luffy's side
That would give me goosebumps ykno
Heβs too set in his ways as a marine but this is a nice reassurance that he fought his own superior
Also I loved kaido's attack. Dude just went "Dragon!!!β 
That's what I mean, if he's already done it why not do it again ?
βWow my boss has a demon spider form.I guess Iβll continue to work for 40 more years and not do anything with this revelation.β
He doesnβt give a shit about the WG and actively hates it
He likes being a marine
And being loyal to the marines
And fighting pirates
The marines are controlled by the WG
True!
You canβt separate one from another
Davy jones being joyboy is fully discarded in this chapter
Yeah he separates the marines as a peacekeeping force against piracy from the world government
Fuck yes
My theory is coming to fruition
The force that has committed multiple genocides against people yes
Dave Jones and Joyboy, rival pirates embodied by Blackbeard and Lufffy
Nah, Davy jones imo is not that old, I see him like grandfather of rocks
you'd be wrong
we literally see his grandma in the last chapter
Unless they live 500 years each
I know, I mean, his age
His timeline period
Idk how to explain
Iβll draw a timeline
Nvm Iβm not doing that
I wonder if imu acknowledging that BBs mom is a Davy clan member confirms that the Nefertiti chose to become D. members and by extension Sabo will be a D
Because of the Sa D. Bo thing
sabo wont be a d
Fuck you macks
I found Imuβs Twitter account
Women owe me sex.
Women owe me attention.
Women owe me love.
Women owe me satisfaction.
Women owe me EVERYTHING.
I choose to become a D. Now donβt call im sama pls
Damnit, One Piece finally falls victim to one of the most irritating shonen troupe - the escalation problem.
I really hope Imu just stays an exception
Since wano one piece powerscalling becoming very weird
im more surprised you werent saying this during the entirety of egghead
Pls oda we need 30 chapter in a row
Our moms are kinda homeless
Power scaling is always weird, but not that relevant. At least the power ceiling has remained same since forever.
until nowβ¦
could also just be your average agenda pusher
Btw Yβall know the fact that speed is the only streamer allowed by Toei to watch one piece on stream?
i dont think he is
So itβs fake?
Speed probably doesnβt know what heβs talking about
Wtf 
W speed β€οΈβπ©Ή
Itβs an L heβs wrong here
L speed π
Is speed streaming entire episodes?
Nah
Why are streamers exploding in popularity as of late?
With falling attention spans, it should have been the opposite
There are a few others too
Most probably cause of clips I donβt think most people are watching entire streams
So greg is crazy then
What do you mean as of late? That shit has been going on for almost 10yrs
Not to this extent. Speed is probably one of the most popular person on the planet.
Any tips to extend my attention span? TikTok already burned me 
Read a book
I do think it's shifted from youtubers to streamers
Delete tiktok
I have a 500 day streak 
start creating content, then screentime becomes a productive tool
Fr
The best part is that he's doing nothing on minecraft and he's not watching any of the videos
A contender for funniest gifs
Thatβs why thereβs so many op haters out there
βItβs too longβ bro u just canβt focus
My glorious OP remake will fix that
Average miahwk agenda
Op remake, coming 2067 first season
Thatβs pretty much everyone with a smart phone, even oldies
as long as the remake has the same music it will be good
i feel like it will be hard for me to prefer it though
Music will be irrelevant to a new watcher
Imagine god valley flashback as a movie just tuff
goal isnβt the please us, but the new fans
Maybe theyβll ask Kohei Tanaka to do music for the remake as well
such a cool moment from garp, who has never really taken charge like this before
im a big fan of gatekeeping
Imu better have some ability to erase memories
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Attacking your bosses and still being on the payroll
No one is doing it like Garp
BRO IS NOT (to be continued in #other-series )
Hope he is.
Now, looking back at Kaido and Wb post god valley - its odd how they sail with so much confidence, like kings, being labelled as the strongest. Knowing at least 5 people are infinity stronger ( to them they are fighting an elder ig )
Kaido claimed to be the strongest
No embed perms 
he didnt claim it himself smh he just wanted to be cause he was like an insane social darwinist or something
I donβt think they considered Imu being any stronger either, this shit isnβt about being stronger, itβs a context based situation where conditions change battle and strengths and weaknesses reveal openings to take enemies
Also yeah the title is basically nothing, Kaido genuinely thinks heβs above humanity though
Conditions and Environment is usually the heavy factor which side wins in battles, then add to that Battle IQ and your own powers, it will usually logically do the rest, just like ex. Luffy healed himself through eating because the environment was nothing but food in big cake island
to jump back up and get an advantage and so on.
anyway i dont see the big fuss cause to my eyes it looks like they dealt with imu
im getting kanjuro's last breath vibes from the domi reversi
yknow when he becomes the flame or whatever
They should definitely consider Imu stronger.
His power isnβt situational, the haki alone should dwarf everyone on that island.
I honestly think Zoro would win against saturnimu
Unless they falsely believe to have defeated Imu next chapter
im betting on rocks willpower will stop the demon form
like for a second
all that whitebeard and kaidou have to believe is that if roger did it so can they
and WB obviously didnt care for it anyway
Roger did what?
One thing I also noticed which this chapter revealed that seems like Ganzui's powers are similar to what we see Gem (Mr. 5) Wielding, suppose this is a confirmation that Ganzui had a devil fruit?
Seems absurd
become the pirate king yknow
like you were talking about sailing with confidence or whatever
i have a feeling demon rocks will injure WB BM and Kaido
Does it tho
wb didnβt care about pk
How would he do it when garp rocks and others couldnβt combined
Power creep, it has been proved that today everyone is stronger
yeah im saying like, imu isnt a huge pillar standing in the way of them doing what they want at the level that whitebeard and kaidou and big mom were operating at and for what they cared for you know
WB was just there to have a fun journey and have a big family. He completed his life dreams. He was a great man
the presence of imu alone wont make them any less confident cause thats firstly just the kind of characters they are and secondly their conviction for whatever they wanted to do (kaidou and bm want to be PK) is also fueled by knowing that roger did it so they can as well
Also, Zoro wins
Same thing with Captain John's magnet DF, which is now used by Captain Kidd, it's nice to see powers like these being present and seeing the linear of "oh there it ended up there now" :D
But they couldnβt beat elders on egg head
I can't see your point
i can understand the argument for kaidou because he specifically was super focused on like being strong and believing strength is justice or whatever
but he also wants to be PK for a reason i dont think he's naive

Imu should have been in Wbβs mind when he raided marineford. Thatβs a potential obstacle who alone would have wiped wb and his crew
if becoming the pirate king is the hardest thing to do on the seas and roger was able to do it, then whitebeard and kaidou and big mom and whoever the fuck operating on their level can have reasonable confidence in whatever it is they wanted to do
well the arc isnt over yet tanu
i wonder if roger wants to be PK during this time
considering they've already seen imu attacking people on their side i feel like they already understand its a sort of being above them and a last resort type thing
or the idea of PK even a thing
Ace died in marineford, mission accomplished for the marines, no gods knights gorosei even required
Why would Imu do that I donβt think Imu wants their presence to known besides all the people there were capable of handling the situation
Garp doesn't even know it's Imu. He thinks it's Saturn lol
and again thats just the sort of people that the whitebeard pirates are anyway, even if imu was there they probably would have fought
Wb doesnβt know that.
I think he does
Now marineford just seems like a suicide mission
It always was
if imu walks around in MF no one would even notice
prob thinks its somekind of noble/king
or just a monster
nope, they were almost successful despite wbβs illness
I think they probably made them forget about god valley or maybe it wasnβt clear to any of them except rocks that they were against Imu since rocks was only one who saw Imu before
I really dont think whitebeard expected to survive marineford
For him it was always a suicide mission
and I get the same vibes for Garp saving Koby
Yep
Not really
Marineford was all about sending a message despite it being a suicide mission, that one piece exists and reigniting the light in pirates to still seek out it, as inspiration for the newer generation
In the end it became a suicide mission
he knew he was very sick already
and giving his life to save ace
thatβs just false
He already was in poor health I think he wanted to use his death similar to Roger
how so?
Sending a message and that speech was just situational
but it still delivered
wb didnβt plan to do all that
Do you really think he expected to survive marineford though?
nothing says he didnβt
Yeah that speech was because he wanted to tell BB that he won't be getting the one piece
It wasnt the fact that he was already going to die that gave him the conviction to go all out
I'd say the main point was to choose where to die and dying in middle of the greatest battlefield he'd know of was the way to go
But maybe Roger's passing words resonated with him and he just went and inspired the newer generation with that line of his
The fuck it we ball is real with wb
this part
True
But yeah, to me it seems obvious that marineford was always a suicide mission at least from the perspective of whitebeard alone
Dude had insane conviction
would have definitely fought knowing that Imu coulda showed up
Also for reputation of wb pirates they had to show up regardless
oh you guys talking about if WB expected imu to showup in MF
It's just the kind of people that the whitebeard pirates are
they would do anything to save their family
any of them could have chickened out and they didnt
I am sure wb was optimistic enough to get it done without getting killed.
Like, he didnβt exactly know what he would be facing, how many warlords would show up, exact number of opponents, etc
Backstab, and mid battle heart attacks were situational
and probably altered his mindset
He should've sent Vista first to sweep through everything
regardless of whether its reasonable to believe that whitebeard could have won the fact that he knew he would die never changed his conviction
Given how terrible his health was seems a far stretch tbh
It's the mindset of a Father after all, he'd do anything for the family
my headcanon is imus haki got stronger here cuz it was being compressed in a tight area
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I feel like narratively it would have made the story a bit less shocking if oda was shoving it down our throats that whitebeard expected to die as well
r.e. your point about nothing telling us he wasnt confident he would live
i know thats not really a point
but i feel like ive said enough as well
compared to someone like garp who we were basically told outright that going to hachinosu was a suicide mission for him essentially
Wb has strong conviction, sure.
But why would anyone think about dying before even arriving at the battlefield
you're confusing expectation and resignation
he didnt give up, he just didnt expect to win
i couldnt really think of a better word than resignation
inevitability, maybe
A celestial dragon was attacked recently, Kaido and Shanks clashing and so much stuff happening.
In another world, marines mightβve sent admirals to stop kaido and shanks, or to catch rayleigh.
There are so many variables, we are seeing stuff in retrospect, Wb didnβt
He gauged the situation, and if it meant giving up his life to save Ace, obviously he wouldnβt falter
whitebeard just knows how to play his cards
idk, i choose to go with the explanation of the series that makes more sense for the series instead of the one that makes whitebeard look insane
Not thinking about suicide is insanity?
and got to think from a perspective that wb is just-- simple man, he wanted a family and upkeep it, he isn't ridden with complexity of piracy greed, he just knew that he has the ability to make a difference and that he did
Sanity is seeing the situation and then making decisions
Idk i feel like your point has been that whitebeard shouldnt have had so much confidence and you're saying that his interaction with Imu this chapter retrospectively makes him look a bit crazier for going to marineford
And I was disagreeing with that, saying he was basically always gonna go even if Imu was there or not and he didnt really think about stuff like that
having that out in the open, what if he would not have gone to save ace? I feel like a man like wb would've died from shame for not going out for an extra mile for his son
He lived just fine after refusing to avenge Oden
That's a fair point
Didn't the information reach him after Oden's death? when making a difference was considered a lost cause?
But yeah as ruuska says
the context of saving someone who is currently alive vs needlessly avenging someone
that makes a huge difference in this case, + wb is smart like that not to just pull out all the guns for revenge because it would do too much damage
That wasnβt the reason he didnβt do it
it was because βmany people would get killedβ
PS- he let go of Thatchβs murder
eeexactly, because too many people would get killed
- he is already dead, what can you do about that? nothing
but in ace's case he could do something
Still the same thing as hearing of oden's death
dont you think the context is something whitebeard would have considered to reach this conclusion
Oden being already dead wasnβt relevant
Wb still thought about raiding Wano regardless
thinking and doing are two different things though
but decided he didnt want to raid because of the lives that would be lost for the needless vengence - which isnt the same as the sacrifice of going to fight in order to save someone that he knows is being held hostage in order to lure him specifically
i think the context surrounding blackbeard, ace and oden are all different
blackbeards being more similar to odens but not quite the same
The difference is that in case of Oden, civilians of Wano would get killed.
If Kaido lived in, say, pirates island - Wb would have definitely raided that place
Bb is different
and i think the point of whitebeard being someone that doesnt fight for vengence needlessly despite wanting to only strengthens the argument that whitebeards conviction in marineford was purely to save ace
he was supposed to be an exception
we dont know this
unless im misremebering the convo marco and whitebeard had about avenging oden

I truly think the first thing on whitebeards mind despite wanting to avenge oden was that it was simply needless fighting, same conclusion that was met at the end of marineford
To be honest liberating wano and oden's vassals/family is more of a reason for whitebeard to act than if Kaidou was based in hachinosu
Thatβs not what Marco said tho
ofc when you're riled up like that and the emotions are high, you are thinking of doing something reckless, but the moment they caught themselves on that they just go -- not the best idea, they're dead, what can you do about it yknow
what did marco say
no the convo they had was very mellow, it was something they thought about a lot obviously
oh?
it was heated because ace wanted to avenge oden and they were mad at ace for nagging about it
iirc
=c= I wonder what chapters they are in, I havent read em in a looong time
Oden one is still understandable, because its Kaido in front.
But not going after BB, or not stopping Ace was just lack of leadership from WB
I mean, he ain't perfect, just seems very human of wb to do mistakes like that even if they are rare
ofc he wanted to stop him, but didnt stop him
: D
Mistake that killed Ace and himself
that's how it sometimes is
I wonder where Bogard is, he arrived to the island with Garp but is nowhere to be seen (?)
what was bet 4 and bet 5?
bets?
Two of my roles are bet 4 and bet 5 winner
no idea what that is for, havent been active enough to be aware of the bets
I love bets.
Years ago I had a bet with someone here that none of red hair pirates ( except Shanks ) would have a bounty of over 1.5 Billion.
That shit still isnβt resolved
Iβd be surprised if any of them had over 1.5
Shanksβ bounty is lower than the other og Yonko
Garp simply built different
DRAGON!!!
Easily the best named attacked of wano so far

young kaido sure is a character
im loving him
btw
since when did dragon have just shanks with him?
did he only take him from the beginning or did he drop shamrock somewhere
my memory is ass
saint something tried to get the baby and got only shamrock not knowing they were 2
Dropped him
Maffey took Shamrock
And male poison ivy found him
what chap was that?
60 or 61 idk
bless
1161
wonder if dragon is going to have his moment at this flashback rn
he's a runner for sure
The explosive snot one?
yea
Could be
It is
Yeah thatβs Mr 5βs fruit
crazy how much the user of a fruit matters
but also imagine being the fruit and going from an infamous pirate feared across the world to mr 5
mr 5 did use it well enough tbh
im sure ganzui can unlock way more potential
but here he's just doing a bigger explosion
id assume it's like any other fruit. just depends on how much you master it
I'd be the best user of the kiss kiss fruit
is that actually established

Is there a fruit like that
Yes, in stampede.
Fake one piece fan detected
yeah, it's douglas bullet's fruit
like luffy gets bigger punches as the story goes on i guess but doesn't really feel the same
Have you now?
Noβ¦
Why
i mean, luffy for instance couldn't control his fruit as well when he was a kid. he just mastered the abilities over time
Iβm a serial procrastinator
im tryna think of other examples but im blanking
oh brook
he learned he can leave his body and roam around as a soul during the TS iirc
I wanted to share a meme
@hazy turret so are your stocks up or down now that we know who had Kid's df?
Damn
tbf I only watched it for nami
Shame on you but also kinda based
@warm fossil
yeah no you can get better with powers of course its just odd that an explosion would get bigger
cause like that's not really skill its just bigger somehow
what else would it be in the case of this fruit?
well i imagine you can make more precise explosions
i guess if you awaken it you can make other things explode, not just your body
but that's just awakening
what does that mean
Why is that odd?
as in in a room full of things hit only the thing you were intending to hit
ahh
because i'm not sure i see how experience would lend to just bigger explosions
the fruit makes your body parts explode. so when you get better at using it, you make bigger explosions
it's pretty straightforward idk
If you're better at jumping you can jump higher because you've mastered the technique
Silly example
But
You can be more precise at it and do it bigger and better
yeah i guess that makes sense
it's funny imagining ganzui with all his might and coolness reach into his nose 
Imagine he ran out of snot midfight
King Harald Domi Reversi
Itβs looking more likely
id like to imagine the fruit allows you to produce snot whenever you wanted 

ngl I'm not a fan of domi reversi
Is rocks gonna resist imu domi reversi or not what you think bro@pseudo gulch
It's just absolutely broken
It doesn't look like he will
If someone as strong as him can be turned into a demon like that it's way too overpowered
Between that and the regen powers they have some lazy ass powers
"oh yeah they cannot be hurt in any way by no one and they can turn ANYONE into slave demons that will do anything they're told to"
Editors should've done their job better smh
Well there's a reason Imu has been in power for 800 years
I don't think it's surprising that they're broken
Perfect
It's not surprising, it's just boring to me
And he WILL resist it and only die because he let himself he killed and it WILL be absolute dogshit
You're already prepared to be disappointed about Imu's defeat? 
Hi Sanjuan
Hi Sanjaun!!
I mean Rocks resisting Domi Reversi
What??
I'm glad, I'm not the only one who think the whole domi reversi thing is kinda lame. Oda better pull off something absolutely amazing for it to work
I said hi...
Thatβs not my name
Is he?
My bad
Whoβs sanjaun
Hi sanjuan-werewolf-cow-piece=real
Pokemon ahh moment 
I'm afraid he wont
I was wondering, whatβs the level of your studies? Since you graduated (congrats btw)
I think it's cool
Better oda do something about that@brazen prawn
It's the equivalent of a bachelor's degree iirc
I like the theory about it only working in your home land
It's obviously gonna have some limitation
Is this guyβs bit just pinging random people
Whose homeland is Elbaf 
@urban lodge nah dude it's too much they become slaves Outta nowhere
He pinged himself 
What? So far it's worked in two places so how does that make sense
Mhm, fits Imu perfectly
Itβs only worked on people from that land
Ohhh it only works on people in their own homeland
Giants in Elbaf and Davy Jonesians in God Valley
Is Rocks from god valley? Did I miss something
That would make it a bit less broken
@urban lodge nah oda needs too show how it works and how tok counter attack this
Oh, as in, the return home translation?
And he will
I see, that makes a sort of sense
Yeah thatβs his home
Rocks is from god valley, yeah
Halloween chapter next week, would be cool if Oda drew some scary scenes of demon Rocks
Not sure I agree with it but the pattern currently matches, true
Has he ever done anything like that for Halloween lol
I mean no π
@vale heath dude i don't pinged you though you better think about yourself before thinking about others no one ask you anything
but I guess demons are scary
I'd like it more than it working on literally anyone
You should add BSc at the end of your name
Anyhow no matter what it is domi reversi is lame, I hated it immediately when I first saw it. Oh they're now evil versions of themselves, so boring
Public discord server means public discord opinions.
I asked me.
I'll add PhD if I ever do a PhD
This is the first time I'm actually disappointed about something from OP
Better Call Johto, PhD
The βreturn homeβ translation is likely in reference to Imu saying that being a demon is the natural form of living things
The first time ever??
Pretty much yeah
I mean not to this degree
What do you think of someone adding it to their name before graduating?
Imu is βreturning them home,β a metaphor for returning things to the state theyre βmeant to be inβ
Home is where the heart is kind of sentiment
I'm still hurting over Yamato...
I think you're overreacting
Eh that was somewhat expected
I didnβt think Yamatoβs existence is that bad
I don't even like it when people add it to their name after they graduate 
@vale heath yeah but no need too push your opinion too others or too talk about them did I ask you too tap something on your keyboard for me or give opinion about me
It was for me. Oda spammed it so much it gave it away
Also the problem I have is that we don't know Imu very well yet so they feel completely without any personality and random
This also makes sense
That it was bait
Literally everyone in this room is pushing opinions.
Thatβs what this server is.
Yeah so far Imu isn't that interesting to me, once we learn more about them I'll definitely be more invested
Including you.
I had a teacher who blasted a student for writing that he had a masters degree in an oral presentation since the guy doesnβt have a masters yet. Which I agree you shouldnβt use the title if you havenβt earned it
Well spammed hinted it
I hope so yeah
@cobalt mica oda will give us reason about domi reverse and his powers too
Weβve seen Rocks use Hao
So it can be tied to that
Yes I trust in Goda, but so far disappointed
I wouldn't give a title that much weight anyway personally
flashback started in june and we not even close to the castle incident which is the reason the flashback even startedπ
It's a perfect ability for Imu thematically
I don't think that makes that big of a difference
Thematically he's just evil for the sake of evil, not even that tbh he's just evil because who fucking knows
Sugar could turn Chinjao into a toy, conqueror's didn't help him there
Imu can turn anyone into a demon imo
Sugar>Imu
I donβt like the idea of just allowing people to use a title so lightly because the people who use it worked really hard for it
@vale heath yes opinion about one piece not individual person just somewhere else if you wanna do this there are plenty of server who are pushing there opinion Outta nowhere for others
That's how I felt about Saturn throughout Egghead
Almost comically evil
You seem oddly flummoxed by a question that can be answered with βnoβ
That's also a fair point of view
But his evil feels different for some reason. Imu's evil feels so empty
Thematically as the person who has been systematically stripping people of their freedom and enslaving them for 800 years for their ability to do the same thing
I'm sure Imu has an interesting reason for that
Yes but that's just lazy if you ask me
Yes
This is such an empty complaint, obviously the character we don't know very well feels incomplete
Yeah, I was about to say this
But like I didn't feel this way with Teach even back when we knew close to nothing about him
He had a personality
We're purposely kept in the dark about a lot of motivations for certain characters
I'm waiting for Oda to show us Imu's personality more
This was so funny btw
They're different characters
Yeah
Meant to symbolize different things
He couldn't even think of a name 
Idkkk how to put it into words man. I agree my opinion will likely change once we learn more about Imu but it's just a gut feeling I have about Imu
Because Teach is written as human and even down to Earth. Imu is the exact opposite
And I think Imu has already given us a lot of crumbs to make Imu very interesting
what
An enigmatic malevolent entity who we know nothing about
Yeah Imu feels so distant from everything and everyone
Exactly, BB had more personality after one fucking panel
To be fair that's the point of that character
They're the ruler of the world
Ugh
I hope someone calls him out
That whole family exudes personality
I love both the father and the son
He doesn't even feel menacing, he feels aloof and bored for some reason
But not the mother. Wow what a surprise
800 years of anything would make me aloof and bored
But that doesn't work with what he's trying to seemingly achieve so idk
I'm expecting a BM panel making fun of Kaido for that
Imu already won
Yeah maybe. Personally I don't want haki to be its counter, I just provided something that could make it less boring for the people who found it as such
Oda explains most things anyway
Kaido has some of the coolest attack names after this so clearly he learnt from this LOL
So it's probably happening later
Mantain control over the world
What if I maintain control over Johto
???????
ποΈ
Iβd take control of you and make you free Johto
aloof? lmfao
bless your heart
it's all because of that imu plushie
Hereβs a question
Remember bluegrass, ride fruit lets her ride and control things one at a time
Can bluegrass override Domi Reversi
When you get Domi reversied ^
That was crazy
so basically control yourself after losing control?
that would be a bit odd
maybe with awakening? idk
im assuming domi reversi is a DF ability, so haki should be able to negate it
i guess it's just a matter of you not knowing what it is so you cant react in time idk
No no like
I would say no because the evil version would be piloting still
Bluegrass riding a person that has been Domi Reversiβd
Ohhhh
What about her riding someone whoβs Domi reversied. Would that cancel the Domi?
I mean yeah but that's only temporary
ahhhhh
Since thatβs how her devil fruit works
i guess yea it might be able to
Also it wouldn't override it she would just control them
^
Right she is controlling them, instead of Imu
An override
Since sheβs riding
Get it
the thing about domi reversi is that it doesnt require permant contact with imu, unlike bluegrass
We need Emeth army with us. They cannot be Domi Reversed
Also has she done that to actual humans? Wasn't it always a machine of sort?
I donβt see why it would be restricted to only machines
It could be that's why Imu did the wipe cuz they figured out robots aren't affected
Seems a very poor fruit to have in a world where machinesβ¦ arenβt really autonomous, Vegapunk is the millenium exception.
Yes
And he doesn't want advanced tech because of it
i assume that means people too
If they're sentient they can probably be reversi'd
Yes thatβs why Imu completely destroyed the Ancient Kingdom who has the most advanced tech at that time
It would be cool to see a demon robot
the japanese name of her fruit is pretty funny. it comes from the same verb for riding on a bus or train 
Then we get into what's sentiency
Enel's automaton army will be the answer
Perhaps the robot isn't actually perfectly sentient
emeth def was sentient
She definitely controlled a Kuma clone
Emet was for sure
but i wouldnt consider the pacafista sentient
yea she did
You can share it, I read spoilers
Or was it just imitating sentiency 
Up, always up
Bruh go read the chapter
he had feelings. he was sad when joyboy gave him the haki, and he made his own decision to release it in egghead. def sentient
emeth has free will
could Imu domi reversi him?
the mechanism behind how he is sentient doesnt matter imo
Well I agree I'm just playing devil's advocate
Whaaaat? Noooβ¦
@hazy turret if youβre not caught up to the manga, you need to go to #anime . youβre not welcomed here. Server rules
^
I'm so sad the anime gave him a super deep voice
He talks like a kid
π
I caught up on the ippo manga, does that count
I said I read spoilers
That doesnβt count as reading the chapter so get out
i read paper
This is gonna sound weird with the voice they gave him
I thought for half a page that Kidd was getting upscaled. Oda is so funny man
It does count
Do it, I dare you
Ok I warned you
John isnt in his prime though, like he is gonna get better and more famous after this, we know that
hee hee
hasn't his death been revealed to be by pirates
@rose rune we have someone not caught up in the manga talking in #also-manga
yea, by his own crew turning against him
yeaah
but from Sengoku, we know that he goes onto make a name for himself like Wang Zhi, Kyo and Shiki
he becomes a proper legend in the world
Ganzui meanwhile, is a loser, he is dying next chapter to Shiki
lol
!warn 575820912129998849
LMAOOO
well he obviously hid the Imu parts but that was what I expected all along
:
Disobedient rascal
emote fail
Crap
Imu being on God Valley makes it so much more interesting
god valley has been nothing but interesting
Also finally brings some more structure to this messy flashback
Connects it to the main arc
yeah sure, but Imu being here ramps it up even further
messy?
it has been quite messy lol
Started out as a Loki flashback, then Harald, then anything but Harald and Loki and got taken over by Rocks
true but the transitions felt natural
this is also better than 3 seperate flashbacks
i'd say yeah for the most part, except for the Amazon Lily transition
i feel like that one didn't feel as natural
yea that was more like a cut scene, but it's obv very relevant
it set up god valley itself nicely
now it's gonna become a imu flashback
It's strange that Oda just dumped all of god valley here, it doesn't feel like the most natural place to get it, but I guess he wanted to get it out of the way
It felt out of place aside from the very loose Loki and Rocks connection until Imu showed up
With Imuβs presence on Elbaph and how GV is ending, it makes perfect sense
HAI
This flashback was never messy
i mean, we still get to see a lot of stuff related to elbad like the holy knights with their connection to imu, and it humanized loki and harald through humanizing rocks
Sup bitch
Haralds efforts to become part of the government hit a head with their order to kill Rocks
That led to him being killed
i see where youre coming from penny, but getting blue balled with god valley again here would have been way worse 
No I agree
well I think the placement even before the involvement of Imu makes a lot more sense when you, like me, believe that there's gonna be a major major cutaway soon enough that focuses on all the guys here, from Dragon to Shanks to BB and more
Donβt talk to Arsal like that
I'm not complaining
all of what they are gonna be doing is gonna build off from this, its gonna be great
I would never, thatβs pookie
I think this is exactly it, too. Weβve set up so many of the players in the final saga from this FB
cant wait for this to turn in to a shanks flashback after the battle is over
Cutaway after Imu no diffs Zoro and Sanji
Whatβs my role
yeah absolutely
yup. a lot more stuff makes sense now. perfect set up for the end
oh that's larsal
@hazy turret so do you forgive Garp
well probably a bit later than but yea
!av
Here is @ashen perch's avatar.
its Robin
We need to see how they got Buggy
so cooll
Thatβs Imu
why is deep fried robin your pfp
she is not deep fried smh
Robin if robin was imu
shes just SpOwOky

Arsal do you forgive Garp
I have never disliked Garp smh
But do you forgive him
Garp is basically king von
Baby shanks top 10 on the island, resisted Imu conquerorβs haki
anyone that jumped on the garp hate train these past few chaps should stop reading op
Iβm still mad at him
He doesnβt care he just wants the opps
Man this flashback is so fucked it really feels like directly after God valley we should cut back to like blaxkbeard or something but we won't the flashback will actually just keep going because it's supposed to be about harold and loki
wait that's actually true 
well sure
I love Garp but didnβt like what happened on hachinosu
kinda funny that Garp is everything that the haters said he wasn't
thats a good thing cunk
Annoying
Imu has bad conquerors haki, bitch only knocked out his Allies
Iβll take it!
No why would I?

Youβre still here?
his capture you mean?
Greedy ass baby
I am literally wishing day and night for us to go back to Elbaf, and Harald, and Loki, and then the present
I'm not saying it's a good or bad thing its just kinda fucked
I also want to see more Loki and elbaf
also like am I the only one who didnt think that was an Imu CoC burst? I thought it was like meant to be the collective attack's aftereffect or whatever
i lowkey forgot they exist
bro has dementia
Him saying old people have no worth. Heβs such a good guy, someone please go save him
I miss Harald... The best thing about this flashback
We haven't seen a giant in chapters...
yup that's what i assumed. 5 or 6 CoC attacks at once. idk if kaido used it here
Its like if we went 8 chapters without seeing Noland or kalgara in skypia flashback
Kaido just used a boro breath but the others all had ACoC yea
i wouldnt take that too seriously tbh
The Skypiea flashback didn't have Rocks
The GOAT
Big mom used acoc this time?
excuse you, he used DRAGON
Noland and kalgara are more goated than rocks
Confirmation that Big Mom was nerfed in Wano btw
Dragon...
yes, BMWW fans (me) winning after 120 chapters basically
this wasnβt Imu conq he was regenerating
That was the conquerors haki from the 6 attacks
Worstgen corrected himself he said it was an error on his end
Well now I have to be worried about his safety every day so yeah Iβll take it seriously
Iβm gonna go read chappie (short for chapter) now
You're short of chapter?
lets be real, this would oneshot Kid
Imu released conquerors haki on his arrival too which only knocked out marines iirc
We all are
is this the first time we see WB use a named attack btw?
yea
Yes
Huuuuugggeeee
joyboy haki> both
Any single attack among the ones in that panel would
So you think this is prime big mom?
And it really shows why he stopped naming his attacks (he's bad at names)
Whatβs BMWW now
no, we know its not
don't worry, I'll mangamute you
Was wano prime big mom?
Current big mom is stronger but has dementia
Kids been hit by a stronger version of Ikoku lol
Big Mom will/(would've) won
it's not that bad honestly. i assume it sounds better in Jp
She used acoc so yeah
"Dragon..!"
Why me?
I need arsal to answer
Iβm not the one breaking server rules
sheβs the Blackbeard of this server haha get it
Just like that
Have you read it?
About to
I mean, why are you asking him without you reading it
Forgive Garp
I think its hard to say, I think she definitely is at her strongest and absolutely stronger than her GV self but we do know for a fact that she is less nimble than she used to be according to Perospero
But yeah she used it here
You donβt gotta read this chapter to know Arsal is wrong
Guys I got spoiled than imu used reversi on rocks btw :(
Iβll forgive Garp when heβs home and safe
That Big Mom used ACoC?
thats a regular Ikkoku, thats not an ACoC Ikkoku
Okay so Kid tanked several of wano BM hits, why would a god valley attack one shot him
oh no I meant that if she had used ACoC with her Ikkoku now, she would oneshot Kid
Where is his home? Navy HQ?
Including taking an Ikoku itself lol
What makes you think she didnβt

I should've clarified, my point is that BM was clearly nerfed in Wano
womp womp
"take my strongest attack Kid, just let me turn off my acoc first"
Does dragon even know the baby he rescued was shanks
Oda never depicted it, she only used it to block Damned Punk
yea
so much haki lightning, hard to tell which one comes from who
thats clear ass ACoC lol, same with WB, they all used it outside of Kaido
Crazy that Zeus was there for all that
I mean its hers for sure lol
im honestly surprised 5 top tier ACoC attacks at once didnt send imu back


