also-manga

[somber flare]

Auramu

[tranquil blade]

I was just taking an excuse to say 6-7

[leaden rivet]

I like Davy jones impregnating Lily more

[digital spear]

this makes sense

[hot cairn]

what? Getting more stuff?

[digital spear]

okay

[royal orchid]

I keep trying to find the dragon imu transformation thing but the gif always manages to escape me

[brittle basin]

so there might've been a Davy Jones and Joy Boy dealing with Imu 800 years ago.

[ornate tartan]

One thing i’m for sure is the One Piece reveal will come before Imus defeat

Wouldn’t make sense for Imu to go down and then us see his win during void century

[leaden rivet]

Why are you responding with ok? I didn’t even reply to you

[urban lodge]

Lmao

[hot cairn]

sigh

[leaden rivet]

That wasn’t a joke Penny. I’m serious.

[forest jacinth]

[royal orchid]

always the pink names man

[leaden rivet]

Im unironically fond of Imu being an incel

[brittle basin]

it was also a love triangle made into a love quadruple when Lili came into the picture

[tranquil blade]

What about Davy Jones impregnating Imu

[leaden rivet]

I think it would be good for his character

[digital spear]

So like Vivi and Blackbeard are related?

[leaden rivet]

Im anti Imu being a woman so nah

[steel stirrup]

Oh nah

[wraith mantle]

Hate to see it but sengoku may have been telling the truth

[leaden rivet]

This would be fine

[tranquil blade]

It could be mpreg

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/hmusicruof4-rowley-diary-of-a-wimpy-kid-rodrick-rules-gif-26773802

[digital spear]

Thats a funny pic tho

[stone terrace]

🫃

[digital spear]

Pregbeard mentioned

[leaden rivet]

But I was more thinking along the lines of Imu killed Lily because Davy impregnated her

And he was hella jealous

[brittle basin]

what is this from?

[digital spear]

Oh..

[wet condor]

this ain't that type of manga

[digital spear]

Gregs Diary

[leaden rivet]

If I can’t have you no one can

[sage temple]

Am I buggin this looks like an enitrely diff way Oda's been drawing explosions

[tranquil blade]

Did u ever think of that

[urban lodge]

Yeah I don't think that's the kind of thing Oda would write

[sage temple]

It looks so grunge

[brittle basin]

ah, i have no idea what that is. a movie i guess?

[leaden rivet]

I mean look at Ginny. It’s definitely not too dark.

[wet condor]

Illya turning OP into a soap opera

[pine scaffold]

https://x.com/M7md_Oda/status/1981451034099687643

TOJI (@M7md_Oda)

Rocks and Imu
#ONEPIECE1163 #حرق_ون_بيس

X · Oct 23, 2025, 8:01 PM

[ashen perch]

Yes. We should've gotten more Harald before Loki's birth. We should've gotten more of that time period, the golden age of the giants. We should've gotten more Loki. We should've gotten more Hajrudin. We should've gotten more of Harald and Xebec's relationship being explored. And it might sound contradictory to hate Rocks and still want more, but we actually should've gotten a lot more Rocks if Oda was really committed to doing God Valley. Oh and we could've certainly gotten more God Valley lol

[leaden rivet]

What soap operas are you watching lol

[tranquil blade]

Domi Kyo vs Shiki soon

[brittle basin]

One Piece

[stone terrace]

For rocks it was the worst die of his life
For whitebeard it was just tuesday

[digital spear]

sorry I confused the title. The movie is based on this book series

[leaden rivet]

I really just want Imu to care about something

[royal orchid]

aura piece

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-rayleigh-silvers-old-man-tears-gif-19898148

[wraith mantle]

More Loki?
We can still get more Loki after gv lol

[blazing depot]

Shiki put the fries in the bag

[ornate tartan]

Davy Jones has no connection to Lily

only Joyboy does that we know so far and Imu

[brittle basin]

oooh i definitely have seen this at bookstores for years and years

[blazing depot]

https://tenor.com/view/mcdonalds-burger-bad-job-mcdonalds-burger-gif-23766007

[leaden rivet]

Him loving Lily works, and like Imu has everything he ever wanted but he can never have Lily

[pine scaffold]

We need more of it.

Oda is actually great at doing it as well

[digital spear]

We will get more Loki and Harald, I just wished they were more involved with Rocks so the God Valley flashback doesnt feel so disconnected

[pine scaffold]

you're lying if u dont get hyped lmao

[frigid gulch]

Is Rocks still your goat

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/dore-door-rodrick-diary-of-a-wimpy-kid-greg-heffley-gif-6397511904336920021

[pine scaffold]

Yes he is

but I will not be pushing Rocks > Imu anymore

[sage temple]

"saturns hair" I guess bro

[royal orchid]

not a fan of how this gif flashbangs me

[leaden rivet]

But honestly I don’t want Davy to be sleeping with Lily I think it’s much better if it’s Joyboy

[digital spear]

Yeah I think its still getting new issues after 20 years, almost each year a new one

[blazing depot]

https://tenor.com/view/inflatable-tube-man-air-dancer-wind-balloon-air-puppet-gif-24875468

[brittle basin]

Imu low diffed Rocks with zero effort. Then again, domi reversi may just be a completely unrivaled power without Luffy and/or being on your own homeland when it's activated

[ornate tartan]

One Piece reveal is coming before Imu gets taken out

ppl really think Imu gonna lose before his own flashback😂😂

[woven talon]

How does dragon ended up clutching a log btw?

[hot cairn]

Oda is on borrowed time it seems but I don’t think the issue with the flashback is that we need to see more. From Rocks I agree tho, us not knowing his motivations is really silly by this point. If we’re getting everything, why not see his motivations too??

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/hasbulla-gif-12654501364171447161

[woven talon]

Did baby shanks use substitution jutsu?

[digital spear]

Shanks haki substitution technique

[wraith mantle]

The homeland theory is probably false

[royal orchid]

fucking worstgen looking at the tendrils coming out of Imu's body and calling it Saturn's hair

[tranquil blade]

What if Lily is a lesbian like her descendant Vivi

[woven talon]

https://tenor.com/view/substituir-kakashi-hatake-naruto-clássico-gif-18550808

[brittle basin]

smh oda just making this shit up it was shanks activing teleportation haki

[ashen perch]

How much more though? Because its starting to feel like we might not get much outside obviously the big Aurust incident.

[leaden rivet]

This would bring me insurmountable joy. But gay people don’t exist in one piece.

[pine scaffold]

Rocks is still the 4th strongest dude in the verse @frigid gulch

Imu, Joyboy, Davy D. Jones, Rocks

[stone terrace]

How does luffy not get the dog piss kicked out of him rn

[leaden rivet]

Ok I actually need to study now before I fall asleep

[tranquil blade]

He does

[sage temple]

2nd strongest baby of all time

[hot cairn]

true

[tranquil blade]

but Brook saves Luffy

[leaden rivet]

[wet condor]

I was going all in on it because the way I envisioned Rocks getting Reversi'd was like a pentagram opening up in the ground and swallowing him up like Dorry and Broggy. But now I don't really believe it

[digital spear]

Didnt you say we will see Lokis travels at sea and fighting Shanks

[brittle basin]

oh he's totaling losing

[woven talon]

Honestly this bugs me way more than The Domi Reversi thing as I know this won’t be addressed ever

[ornate tartan]

where’s King Harald

[ashen perch]

And Nerona Mi will succeed in getting with her unlike Nerona Imu

[pine scaffold]

yeah i guess him and harald share that space

[wraith mantle]

Oh yeah I forgot about the flippy thing

[tranquil blade]

I'm ngl I stopped reading after I saw "Nerona Mi"

[ashen perch]

I said no, it'll be a separate flashback if we do

[ornate tartan]

Giants are naturally the strongest, especially Ancient Giants

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/susato-mikotoba-fist-pump-lets-go-judicial-assistant-gif-25607868

[ashen perch]

Smh

[tranquil blade]

I actually teared up seeing nerona mi you traumatized me with that theory

[stone terrace]

Oda with a dbz then naruto reference

[digital spear]

I mean doesnt matter when we see it we will just get more
#also-manga message we will see this

[royal orchid]

Nerona Mi

Nerona Buggy

Nerona Mihawk

[stone terrace]

Hes in his bag with shanks

[hot cairn]

@digital spear drop the list of everything that’s left to see from This flashback

[digital spear]

Already ahead of you

[frigid gulch]

Imu actually did rage bait Rocks

[stone terrace]

Next shanks is gonna talk to gryphon in his head

[tranquil blade]

https://tenor.com/view/solluminati-this-trash-cry-gif-27536757

[frigid gulch]

Probably to pierce him and turn him into a demon

[ashen perch]

Its the lack of more that makes it feel disjointed, its like we just keep moving along at this crazy pace without really letting anything breathe or flow.

[grand flower]

Brogy too.

@ashen perch @hot cairn emotional state will be key to Domi Reversi

[stone terrace]

Perfection

[sage temple]

No previous subject was really mad at all for Imu to use Domi Reversi except maybe Brogy

[hot cairn]

Idk it doesn’t feel like that too me

[tranquil blade]

I think Domi Reversi amplifies the worst traits of it's victims and inhibits their free will

[royal orchid]

when you meme rocks and the garling fan thinks you're on his side

[frigid gulch]

Brogy was

[hot cairn]

mmm

[royal orchid]

I'm just playing

[frigid gulch]

Dorry I’m not too sure

[sage temple]

Yeah I said except maybe Brogy

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/chris-jericho-wwe-jeri-ko-raw-the-list-gif-6226141

[tranquil blade]

Nerona Mihawk is unfortuantely possible tho

[grand flower]

Same. I think it works off a moment of negative emotions. Amplifying them and the persons worst tendencies

[frigid gulch]

But I think Imu has to kickstart the reaction

[hot cairn]

thank God there’s no break after this chapter

[grand flower]

Joy Boy because a similar surge of positive emotion can undo the Domi Reversi

[frigid gulch]

If he converts two individuals into demons, they can surround others and turn them into demons as well. That was confirmed by Rocks

[royal orchid]

I mean come on don't we all love having more characters with fake names

[ashen perch]

Yes I know all that and I want all that to be seen, I'm just not sure if Oda's gonna give it the time lol

[brittle basin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/738580480437387264/1319474878851846268/ezgif-5-ed8d47a120.gif

[woven talon]

~~ Nero~~na ~~u ~~mi

[tranquil blade]

I think it works still for now cause Dorry and Brogy definitely had to be making some morally questionable decisions on the seas

[royal orchid]

I think we need half of the current cast of characters to have fake names hiding something

[tranquil blade]

They were a terror to everyone who met them

[pine scaffold]

May have lost, but nobody is beating him except god himself.

@wet heron

[royal orchid]

it'll be peak trust

[brittle basin]

hoo boy, remember when we thought Imu was the sea? haha good times

[hot cairn]

no reason to believe he won’t

[ornate tartan]

dawn and dusk in his last video had a theory that the giant egg on Roger ship hatched into Gryphon Bird and he upgraded his sword sometime between ch 1 and the pre time skip

[woven talon]

Wake up sheeple

[hot cairn]

LMAOOO

[urban lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-of-cringe-cringe-gif-20747133

[royal orchid]

imu still had that suspiciously umi bozu shaped transformation back then

[frigid gulch]

Rocks: “I had fun”

[tranquil blade]

My least favorite thing that has come out of this flashback is people seeing Roger as a fake and a fraud

[ornate tartan]

the sword looks different then ch 1 and even in the ace flashback 5 years ago

[fast pagoda]

Still somewhat possible

[royal orchid]

Gol D. Gooner was actually a bit funny

[frigid gulch]

Loger, Fraudger

[fast pagoda]

He has 0 bad feats that aren't gags

[frigid gulch]

Runger

[tranquil blade]

It's gotten to the point where Xebec is being called the real pirate king

[brittle basin]

true. never mind. goda.

umi lives on

[pine scaffold]

Domi-reversi Xebec gonna go nuts

[royal orchid]

I know at least 3 regulars today who wouldn't deny your message

[stone terrace]

Imu didnt even need to eat sabos fire he just did it to aura farm

[sage temple]

[tranquil blade]

and we may need to elimate all 3 of them #tbh

[ashen perch]

I think that'd make sense with what we've seen yea, The devil feeding on or exploiting anger and negative emotions is cool. An idea I had in spoilers is that pure hearted characters will manage to save themselves from it, but between that idea and the homeland one, we'll have to wait and see which limit Oda chooses for this ability. Maybe both lol

[pine scaffold]

Will this be the strongest domi reversi character ever???

I cant see Imu ever turning someone stronger into a demon

right?

[ashen perch]

Are you 12

[tranquil blade]

Maybe

[ornate tartan]

Loki

[royal orchid]

so far demon rocks should be the strongest

[pine scaffold]

DAWG NO WAY U SAID LOKI

[royal orchid]

for the future? eh maybe

[pine scaffold]

Loki aint stronger than Rocks bruh

[hot cairn]

he is

[tranquil blade]

Loki is stronger than Rocks and Shanks is stronger than Roger

[hot cairn]

cook him @sage temple

[royal orchid]

Shanks is the pirate king

[forest jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/ragebait-rage-bait-lol-lmao-gif-3554026694133497645

[ornate tartan]

Loki is gonna powercliff both Rocks and Harald bro😂

not even trollin

[hot cairn]

I love that gif

[frigid gulch]

Loki’s not there yet

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/king-of-the-hill-bobby-h-ill-bobby-zen-meditation-gif-3699626

[digital spear]

You are pure hearted

[ashen perch]

Its not strength, I like my pure heart idea smh

[digital spear]

Thors Hammer shit

[ashen perch]

It'd be Oda taking more inspiration from his favorite series, purity of heart is a big thing there

[hot cairn]

pure hearted? Then Dorry and Broggy aren’t pure hearted?

[tranquil blade]

Thank you 🧒

[frigid gulch]

Demon Loki.. to parallel Demon Rocks and Harald

[digital spear]

Well theyre warriors

[hot cairn]

and Harald (if he was domi reversid)

[sage temple]

Dorry and Brogy are definitely a lot nicer

[ashen perch]

they were literally terrorizing the planet a hundred years ago

[grand flower]

I feel like even pure hearted people will be affected, but it’ll probably be harder to get their hearts to feel fully negative emotions to trigger it. That’s what I’m thinking

[ornate tartan]

fuck no💀

the only reason they ain’t fighting rn is because they went back to elbaph to fix their weapons🤣

[hot cairn]

Luffy is a Warrior too

[ashen perch]

They're okay, but they're not saints lol

[royal orchid]

I now hold them both. Yin and Yang. order and chaos.

[sage temple]

They were respectful to humans though iirc

[runic dock]

They’re right

[tranquil blade]

Dorry and Brogy had to nuke at least one town while on the seas

[hot cairn]

who is a saint in One Piece

[stone terrace]

Luffy tried to break a dudes jaw because he did a little trolling

[frigid gulch]

A pure hearted person can still be triggered like Rocks was here

[stone terrace]

😭

[frigid gulch]

Using family or friends

[ornate tartan]

they aren’t bad but they aren’t pure hearted they are still giants who love war

[runic dock]

Kuma, Ivankov , dragon , pretty much the revos

[tranquil blade]

Kuma

Me

[ashen perch]

Yeah they were, but they still were regular pillaging looting type pirates

[digital spear]

I mean idk who would be pure hearted enough in that scenario

[ashen perch]

Saint Nerona Imu

[runic dock]

Ivankov is pure , all he wants is pure freedom for all , more so than luffy

[sage temple]

If you do one bad thing in the past you can't be pure hearted ever again?

[hot cairn]

we don’t shit about Dragon

[royal orchid]

Saint Figarland Garling and Saint Jaygarcia Saturn ❤️

[frigid gulch]

Mihawk ?

[ashen perch]

This is actually something I'll post in 5 years when its revealed that Nerona Imu was a genuinely good person and Imu is an impostor

[frigid gulch]

[hot cairn]

exactly that’s what I’m trying to say

[tranquil blade]

"Biggie was fat" ass list

[royal orchid]

Saint Nerona Mihawk

[runic dock]

His actions in god valley have already proved his saintly hood

[frigid gulch]

That brother is a bully

Although he is kind to some extent

[hot cairn]

yeah like

[urban lodge]

He doesn't kill civilians at least

[hot cairn]

so many questionables with that idea

[ornate tartan]

bruh wtf💀
I meant Makino

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-thinks-he-is-on-the-team-gif-734468567113922582

[ashen perch]

No, pure heartedness is extremely rare

[frigid gulch]

Ah

[sage temple]

What if they were painted badly

[digital spear]

Man imagine Zoro fights Mihawk in the final war because Imu domi reversed him lol

[tranquil blade]

Koby is pure hearted

[digital spear]

Pandaman

[ashen perch]

Socrates, no, Loki is not pure hearted

[digital spear]

Pandagiant

[frigid gulch]

Lame

[ashen perch]

Are you going there

[trim lily]

peak ass

[ashen perch]

I'm trying to stop it before you go there

[digital spear]

Yeah

[stone terrace]

"My heart is pure... pure evil"

[royal orchid]

Pandaman = Pandemonium = Curse of the Abyss = Imu

[digital spear]

Cook

[leaden rivet]

Ida is pure hearted

[tranquil blade]

Peak moment

[runic dock]

Anyone who has to openly call themselves evil is putting on airs

Ooooh I’m so evil! Look how evil I am!!

[trim lily]

does that mean imu is good

[leaden rivet]

And that’s why she’ll die a gruesome death

[trim lily]

they use a literal power of evil

[tranquil blade]

Earl do you not know the reference

[digital spear]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-plankton-ingredients-science-gif-16557017

[runic dock]

He doesn’t openly call himself evil

[trim lily]

they call their power the power of evil

[frigid gulch]

Socrates is excited for Demon Loki

[digital spear]

No he doesnt

[frigid gulch]

Another parallel to Rocks

[hot cairn]

that could happen LOL domi reversid is the perfect way for Oda to make people antagonists

[runic dock]

Difference of what

[ornate tartan]

Kuma
Queen Otohime
Makino
Ida

some pure hearted characters

[tranquil blade]

It's a dragon ball z reference

[hot cairn]

Oda hates completing fights

[pine scaffold]

wait really? that's nice

or are u lying

[hot cairn]

he hates making one character the loser

[frigid gulch]

Ask him

[trim lily]

they’re so silly

[pine scaffold]

cuz ik we had a huge argument abt that shit bruh

💀

[ornate tartan]

he is NOT excited for ts💀

[runic dock]

They didn’t say they’re evil , they’re saying they’re giving someone else evil power

Know the difference

[digital spear]

I just hope he doesnt overdo it

[royal orchid]

if you can give someone the power of evil, are you good?

[tranquil blade]

Maybe idk

[pine scaffold]

ngl I dont like Rocks turning into a demon but imma wait to see how it's done

[runic dock]

You’re the messenger

[pine scaffold]

I will wait

[frigid gulch]

Why would Mihawk need to be a demon tho. He already looks forward to Zoro fighting him

[trim lily]

everyone except imu is evil

[royal orchid]

the messenger and the deliverer of

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/who-are-you-gif-21457791

[hot cairn]

why don’t you like it

[pine scaffold]

?????

[tranquil blade]

but is a being who them alone can determine who is good and who is evil truly just?

[runic dock]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-gif-502627409480164820

[frigid gulch]

We don’t gotta abuse this ability ngl

[trim lily]

oh wow even sb turned on rocks

[wet condor]

I wanted the fight to be longer

[pine scaffold]

Expected him to go down in a different more heroic way

[pine scaffold]

nah

still like Rocks

[runic dock]

Wdym EVEN!?! He turns on everything at the drop of a hat

[trim lily]

don’t worry that’ll still happen

[royal orchid]

Shiryu Of The Rain ❤️

[runic dock]

Bro is not built with constitution

[wet condor]

He's probably gonna get a decent death

[frigid gulch]

Well good thing GV isn’t over yet

[urban lodge]

But he lost aura, are you sure?

[trim lily]

rocks will use the power of love to snap out of it at the last second

[pine scaffold]

I will be satisifed in that case

[hot cairn]

ahh nah I imagined he had a tragic death

[tranquil blade]

I wonder why Imu leaves God Valley, because he could pretty easily kill off all of these pirates right here and now or at least turn them into his followers

[pine scaffold]

he also kinda gained some this chap, with ''King of the rats''

[wet condor]

He will be forgotten by most people but his memory will live on in a lot of the guys who're there. I imagine in Roger's and Garp's in particular

[royal orchid]

Kaidou Of The Beasts
purest soul in wano

[sage temple]

He kinda gained aura he cemented himself as a family man

Real stand-up guy

[wet condor]

He's just a guy

[trim lily]

odds are they’re driven out ala joyboy haki rope

[stone terrace]

ROCKS

[runic dock]

King of the rats , the world isn’t yours , rocks had some good lines this chapter

[hot cairn]

plot

[pine scaffold]

Imu is the strongest but I still like Rocks more

[royal orchid]

Rocks died to the strongest enemy in the world, saving his family
I think he wins aura

[tranquil blade]

Another Joyboy rope?

[trim lily]

no rocks will just be that strong somehow

[tranquil blade]

What did the guy just store them on every island?

Oh

[trim lily]

after he snaps out of the reversi

[pine scaffold]

if he snaps out of reversi im gonna go nuts

[runic dock]

No lmao

[trim lily]

he will

[tranquil blade]

Xebec not like that

[frigid gulch]

He will

[urban lodge]

Yeah Oda won't pass the opportunity to glaze him one more, final time

[trim lily]

oda’s love for rocks knows no bounds

[pine scaffold]

GOD PLEASE ODA

[hot cairn]

he will 100%

[runic dock]

Just calm down for one goddamn week sb

Why do you reacting so strongly to every little thing

[wet condor]

Imu looming over Rocks and Rocks dying with a smile on his face

[runic dock]

How tiring

[urban lodge]

He's gonna resist the domi reversi and only die because he allowed himself to be killed

[wet condor]

After saving Teach

[tranquil blade]

Before this chapter I thought Imu would fight all of these guys and take enough damage that he decides to just Domi Xebec and then dip

but now that just isn't the case

He can't even be hurt

[digital spear]

@pine scaffold someone in Daks stream brought up the idea that Blackbeard got traumatized by his domi reversed father going after him and killing his mother thats why he cant sleep

[wet condor]

This really how I'm feeling right now

[pine scaffold]

now thats cinema

imagine if before he says something like ''it's up to you now, Teach''

[trim lily]

i imagine this is all rather traumatizing

[ornate tartan]

if Rocks kills Eris that will be sad asf man

[runic dock]

Omg if rocks takes a left turn I’m gonna lose it

Omg now that he has made a left turn if he takes a right turn I’m gonna lose it

I’m sick of him turning

[ornate tartan]

not his fault but damn

imu is twisted

[hot cairn]

still have no idea how Oda will create the counter for this, if not even the top dogs of the past could

[tranquil blade]

Kuma went through worse and was a good guy so I don't think it excuses Blackbeard at all

[trim lily]

i hope oda does this

[royal orchid]

Xebec, dying on the ground after being defeated by Garp, Roger, Big Mom, Kaido and Whitebeard, is relieved from the demonic possession.

As his life fades out, he spots his wife and child running to safety, and with a smile, he closes his eyes.

[tranquil blade]

Nika and Yami

[ashen perch]

So there's a technique in Oda's very favorite manga where the devil uses the malice inside others' hearts to literally blow up their hearts. It works on those with even the faintest of malice by amplifying their negative thoughts, their anger and their aggression. It is useless on pure hearts. I'm thinking Oda is inspired by it basically but we'll see.

[frigid gulch]

Harald will do it too during castle events. Then he’ll plead with Loki to kill him

It is written

[hot cairn]

so BB is not a follower of rocks, he’s afraid of him?

[urban lodge]

Sickening. (It's gonna happen)

[glass plume]

or he sees them dead on end of his blade

or at least Eris

[leaden rivet]

Don’t forget him laughing

[royal orchid]

I think BB is very much alive just maybe

[sage temple]

Glad Rocks was the only one in the last century that could hold his own all by himself against Imu for a good while

[hot cairn]

how much would you rate this flashback out of 10?

[ashen perch]

Worst case scenario is that no one can do anything to Imu outside BB and Luffy because of Yami and Nika lol

[runic dock]

And then he says omae wa mo shinderu

[wet condor]

8.5

[pine scaffold]

I think it'd be really interesting if Oda went this route, delving into trauma like this

[ashen perch]

No not that one smh

[glass plume]

maybe it was an illusion

[wet condor]

Depending on how Rocks goes out, it can be a 10

[leaden rivet]

4/10

[glass plume]

maybe Teech died on God Valley with his mother

[trim lily]

real

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-gif-15944648704967844559

[leaden rivet]

The Loki bit was an 8/10

[frigid gulch]

Rocks is old gen himothy basically

[royal orchid]

( He just laughed. )

[frigid gulch]

[wet condor]

Wbu?

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/writing-too-fire-fire-writing-writing-fire-friendcord-gif-7801118907023267493

[tranquil blade]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-ishowspeed-fortnite-speed-stream-streaming-gif-9744730805314351991

[hot cairn]

The Revos are freaking cooked if only to people in the planet can fight the HK’s, Gorosei and Imu

[runic dock]

One of his best , doesn’t have to have some depressingly sad story that makes me wanna die

[sage temple]

If the ragebait theory is true that's just suggesting Rocks would've won if he was at a calm mind so ngl he wins regardless

[ashen perch]

Its fine, I have all the faith in Dragon, he'll hurt Imu with his Dragon Claw, Wind Blasts and ACoC 3

[sage temple]

10

[trim lily]

will dragon one shot all 5 gorosei like he did in return to reverie

[tranquil blade]

Well no anyone with CoC can hurt the knights or gorosei but only yami and nika fruit users can beat Imu specifically

[glass plume]

the ragebait doesn't matter, Xebec couldn't hurt Imu either way

[leaden rivet]

It’ll be once rocks decapitates Eris

[glass plume]

Imu just made Xebec do the dirty work

[tranquil blade]

3???

[runic dock]

That’ll be tragic in a badass way

[royal orchid]

if Domi Reversi doesn't have a weakness or special condition, this is EXACTLY what will happen

[sage temple]

Rocks was still the only person that could hold his own against Imu all alone ngl

[stone terrace]

Bro the strongest peeps in the world couldnt even get a reaction out of imu

[runic dock]

Not kuma tragic

[tranquil blade]

What is happening

[digital spear]

Maybe the reason why he is different than Rocks in some ways even if he still uses his plans to get what he wants. Or the theory says BB doesnt know that was Rocks, not sure

[trim lily]

if oda actually goes this far it’ll be the saving grace of this flashback

but i do not have faith

[stone terrace]

But look at what joyboy did

[glass plume]

i mean, he held his own against Imu as much as Robin held her own against Sommers

[hot cairn]

I would hate that scenario, and that’s also quite literally impossible. Luffy and BB can’t fight the whole WG alone

[stone terrace]

It just cant be anything else but nika

[hot cairn]

oh so you’re really enjoying it

[frigid gulch]

Tbh

[wet condor]

v

[sage temple]

Yeah a lot better than anyone else has done in the past century

[hot cairn]

damn

[wet condor]

Very much so, yes

[tranquil blade]

I wish the chapter was like 2 pages longer

[ashen perch]

1 works on HKs. 2 works on the Gorosei, 3 only for Imu. Its the type Joyboy had. Its quite simple actually

[sage temple]

😭

[glass plume]

still not nearly enough

[frigid gulch]

Is this conquerors really any different from conquerors coating?

[pine scaffold]

I like the BB not sleeping at night due to his past haunting him angle cuz it makes BB more human

[runic dock]

If haki scared imu btw , that means certain level of haki CAN hurt imu

YOOOO

[frigid gulch]

Doesn’t seem like it

[wet condor]

Rocks has made it great

[runic dock]

I cracked the code

[glass plume]

Imu is essentialy toying with their fates as of now

[runic dock]

Yet again

[sage temple]

Still better than everryone else in the past century

That's extremely good

[frigid gulch]

Rocks didn’t know about regen

[stone terrace]

It wasnt the haki it was his haki

[tranquil blade]

This means Joyboy gaps pretty much everyone

[frigid gulch]

But his haki slowed Garling’s

[tranquil blade]

but it depends

[glass plume]

sure but there's no reality where he could've won

[frigid gulch]

Just like Gaban

[blazing depot]

@sage temple hey I think this chapter foreshadows Loki getting domi reversed and getting his ass beat by Imu

[sage temple]

I feel like head some type of knowledge of their powers

[frigid gulch]

I do not see a difference so far

[runic dock]

Regardless , if haki can’t hurt you , even joyboys haki shouldn’t make you shake on your knees like imu did

Clearly haki will still hurt him

That’s proof

[leaden rivet]

Except shanks of course

[tranquil blade]

Does this imply Shanks is stronger than everyone there? Is Shanks the strongest of all time?

[hot cairn]

7 so far, want to see how Rocks goes out and whatever went down with the Harald incident. It’s probably going to be a 9 when it’s all set and done tho.

[leaden rivet]

We’re on the same wavelength Avery

[frigid gulch]

Did he? He seemed pretty surprised to me

[sage temple]

Doesn't matter if he won honestly

[tranquil blade]

Literally the exact same one

[runic dock]

He’s close to the strongest in the series yes

[leaden rivet]

This is all Oda’s ruse to dickride shanks more. I’m familiar with his game.

[glass plume]

that's hokage Shanks to you

[runic dock]

Big surprise

[hot cairn]

LOL it can still be tho

[runic dock]

Wow shanks is the strongest who could have seen that coming

[blazing depot]

@sage temple

[sage temple]

I mean I guess?

[runic dock]

Holding back the power of evil while slaying your family is metal af

[hot cairn]

you’re very biased

[blazing depot]

Be affirmative

You know it’s true

[tranquil blade]

Earl there's a difference between one of the strongest of the current era and being the literal strongest in history

[frigid gulch]

You know what I thought about.. Oda establishing Kaido not dodging the smoke so that he can show Shanks sonning him later

[forest jacinth]

[frigid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/no-noooo-british-cop-screaming-no-despair-crying-gif-14408871079120163442

[hot cairn]

ahhh I see, maybe

[glass plume]

it feels like Imu's power is literally giving people the motivation for being evil

[sage temple]

It just isn't true lots of things could impede on Imu's effectiveness against Loki

[glass plume]

like when the pain compelled them

[runic dock]

Someone’s gotta be , and he won’t be forever anyway

[sage temple]

For one Loki's eyes almost definitely have a hidden meaning

[blazing depot]

Like what

[glass plume]

i think it is compelling them to be evil

[hot cairn]

Rocks killing his wife will make you like the flashback more?

[frigid gulch]

This flashback has emphasized Kaido doesn’t run from fights. How tf did Shanks turn him away

[sage temple]

Loki's fruit, eyes, lineage, willpower

Loki's experience

[blazing depot]

Look at Rocks bro

[tranquil blade]

Drugged his alcohol

[blazing depot]

He couldn’t do shit

[hot cairn]

mmm

[ashen perch]

Btw best case scenario is actually Imu being stripped entirely of his immortality SOMEHOW, so basically anyone can at least potentially hurt him.

[runic dock]

I feel It might have historic lore from void century that we may not find out till way later

[glass plume]

i'm way more interested in Loki, Harald and Hajrudin then Xebec tbh

[frigid gulch]

I wish but he probably had him shaking

[hot cairn]

well, she is dead so who knows

[tranquil blade]

Pause

[frigid gulch]

You know what I mean

[sage temple]

Yeah bercause he doesn't have EITHER of the fruit that he wanted here and he knows he couldn't win at all. This entire thing was to stall Imu

😭

[blazing depot]

BRO

[runic dock]

Domi reversi and how it’s used I think ties into the Harald incident , Harald was domi reversi’d and loki had to kill him

[blazing depot]

WE DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT THE FRUIT IS

[leaden rivet]

For some reason I can’t understand what this sentence is trying to say

[runic dock]

Then Loki will get domi in current time

Luffy 1v1 demon loki

[blazing depot]

IT COULD BE THE FUCKING PIZZA FRUIT

[tranquil blade]

https://tenor.com/view/treyreloaded-gif-25910669

[glass plume]

yeah but i still think that one of Imu's power is to draw out the evil from someone

[ashen perch]

Abyss exorcism, someone's gonna need to do it

[leaden rivet]

No I was saying it’ll make it more depressing and sad

[blazing depot]

How it feels to be constantly correct and intelligent in this chat

[runic dock]

Could be

[sage temple]

So Loki could kill a Domi Reversi level rival of Rocks

[hot cairn]

ahh

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/one-peak-one-piece-one-piece-cry-its-so-peak-gif-13413926760013023520

[runic dock]

I could see it

[glass plume]

come here Imu we need you take part of this exorcism

[runic dock]

If that’s how Harald incident really went down

[sage temple]

Holy powerscale

Ngl

[runic dock]

It then makes sense shanks stopped him

[sage temple]

That would be insane

[runic dock]

Shanks ultra glaze of course

[frigid gulch]

Err my bad. I’m saying Oda is showing Kaido repeatedly wanting to fight in the flashback so he can show Shanks bitching him later

[somber rivet]

Of course the intelligent one will use Rick as a example. Basic reddit stuff

[glass plume]

yeah Shanks will probably be the one who kills Harald at the end

[blazing depot]

@leaden rivet we are the same. We are ragged on because we are too intelligent

[glass plume]

while Loki was framed of killing him

[frigid gulch]

Shanks ?

[sage temple]

😔

[frigid gulch]

I doubt it

[sage temple]

It's always a Shanks upscale in the end

[tranquil blade]

Did this guy just use a pickle rick image

[frigid gulch]

I believe Gaban said him and Shanks didn’t make it in time

[ashen perch]

Lmao

[sage temple]

All that can stop Shanks is if Loki's fight with him was really just an event of Shanks cheatingf

[ornate tartan]

Loki will powercliff the old gen
ppl scared of this to happen but its been evident

[runic dock]

Mihawk fans forcing mihawk upscales when shanks upscales happen left and right like the wind blowing

[keen quiver]

@wet heron @civic dust

[sage temple]

😭

[tranquil blade]

Is Imu weak to salt

[leaden rivet]

Supah is still alive?

I haven’t seen them in awhile

[sage temple]

I see them saying Yo in #manga

[runic dock]

Street rat! Riff raff! I don’t! Buy that!

[ornate tartan]

Loki has a legendary weapon which is probably superior to his fathers sword

And also has a DF compared to no fruit for Harald

So his potential at worst is Prime Harald level and he has room to be even greater

[runic dock]

https://tenor.com/view/aladdin-riff-raff-gif-19018030

[hot cairn]

am I the only one that likes stories about destiny and fate? It feels like the fandom doesn’t like that OP is kinda turning into something like that

[sage temple]

The DF was likely eaten after he fought Harald though

[tranquil blade]

It probably wasn't a 1v1

[ashen perch]

But idk, I'm just thinking that the regen issue isn't gonna be as easily fixed as just finding the right technique to hurt them, we already saw that fail with Imu's weakest regen warriors and fail even worse against Imu himself. I think they're going to find a way to entirely get rid of regen Brach, doesn't have to be exorcism smh

[urban lodge]

I'm ok with destiny stuff

[ornate tartan]

i’m talking about in general, Loki narratively should be stronger then Harald at the current moment

[urban lodge]

If it's done well

[runic dock]

When it comes to tropes it always depends how it’s done and people always assume it’ll be done bad lol idk

Oda has proved himself to me tho

[glass plume]

yeah i suppose so, but i think it will just be as easy as Luffy is a direct counter with the NIka powers

[sage temple]

I feel like we've never seen Oda shadow like this b4 though

[ashen perch]

Too limited

[glass plume]

Freedom > Oppression

[sage temple]

Oh yeah true

[hot cairn]

you don’t think OP is doing it well?

[runic dock]

Really don’t think it’s silhouette anymore

Bro just is like that

[urban lodge]

For now at least I think it is

[sage temple]

Fr

[ocean totem]

Basically calling him the Pirate King tbh

[runic dock]

Like it’s a full on battle with explicit scenes being shown lol

[hot cairn]

yeah I’ve seen people complain about it a lot, we just need to see how it plays out idk. Chapter 1138 left me with a lot of trust LOL

[glass plume]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-imu-transforms-into-a-demonic-monster-one-piece-imu-the-king-of-the-empty-throne-one-piece-imu-vs-sabo-one-piece-imu-monster-form-one-piece-imu-transforming-into-a-monster-gif-467185852685691057

[runic dock]

And still no?

Like nahhhh

[ornate tartan]

I’m looking forward to Loki ability the most because to my knowledge I can’t recall any giant that has used a fruit power in the series yet @sage temple

[runic dock]

That’s just him atp

[sage temple]

Sanjuan has

But idk if that's really an ability ngl

[runic dock]

Look how the shakky discourse went lol, just proof we need to see how shit plays out

[ocean totem]

It is

He's not naturally that big

[sage temple]

It's like a human eating a human fruit

Or a door eating a door fruit

[hot cairn]

oh, wasnt expecting that answer from you

[leaden rivet]

Are you implying Shakky turned out good?

Im not going to argue with you just to be certain im just curious

[hazy echo]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-sanjuan-wolf-sanjuan-one-piece-wolf-one-piece-marineford-gif-6714713891131117500

[runic dock]

Nah that people were pre complaining about all of GV clinched on one woman

[sage temple]

Yeah it's just size but idk I feels like it nerfs him sometimes

[ornate tartan]

hell nah it’s just a gigantification fruit shit ass😂

[runic dock]

Every chapter going forward pulled that layer back

[keen quiver]

The rat techniques he was using gave it away

[leaden rivet]

Oh I see

[hot cairn]

still crazy to me that we’re almost 40 chapters in Elbaph and we still don’t know Loki’s powers LOL

[dull berry]

I'm thinking 2 more chapters left for GV. Next chapter Xebec gets defeated, and after that its gonna be the conclusion

[hot cairn]

true

[blazing depot]

Is this the actual translation or Meek inserting agenda memes

[ocean totem]

Oh I read that wrong, I thought it said Imu called Rocks that Yeah, this is even better

[urban lodge]

I think the nika stuff could have used some more set up but Oda has been doing a good job integrating it into the story

The way Oda did it was funny, Who's Who the racist exposition machine

[keen quiver]

He immediately just calls him Davy jones

[sage temple]

Unconscious Saturn hoping Imu rates his body as a good vessel

[keen quiver]

He still has Davy on the brain

[glass plume]

dark toonforce

[keen quiver]

800 years later

[jade rain]

But we still have more for the fb as a whole

[hazy echo]

https://tenor.com/view/zalaad-gif-10933451705657595850

[keen quiver]

Actual tl

[blazing depot]

Lisa

Do you know Japanese

[odd rune]

@ocean totem

it happened

[keen quiver]

Dog other people that know Japanese confirmed it

😭

[runic dock]

Rocks is a simp, what is Oda doing blah blah blah and all of that eventually got peeled away, It made people so focused on their complaints they couldn’t just enjoy those moments and missed them when it was just some nice moments and character building and comedy @leaden rivet

[tranquil blade]

Is Saturn conscious during all of this

[odd rune]

the whitebeard named attack

[blazing depot]

Hmmm I will wait for Viz and my glorious king Stephen Paul

[leaden rivet]

I keep mistaking you for me lol

[hot cairn]

yeah that’s true, it also helps that Oda didn’t do Gear 5 in the final war, I feel like that would’ve been really wack.

[stone terrace]

Look how insane everybody goes over rats

[leaden rivet]

I gotta go white again

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/meditating-splinter-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-concentrating-meditation-pose-gif-5988255775098076859

[hot cairn]

hilarious random ass moment

[keen quiver]

Stephen paul is gonna say rodents or some shit

[glass plume]

go blue

[urban lodge]

It is very funny how similar our pfps are

[blazing depot]

Me too

[digital spear]

How did you two find two different Gunko fanarts where she has the exact same pose

[blazing depot]

Hey look at me

I’m Gunko too

Can I be included

[leaden rivet]

I promise it wasn’t even on purpose lol

[hazy echo]

https://tenor.com/view/purple-walter-white-jesse-pinkman-breaking-bad-why-are-you-gif-6866730517747708780

[glass plume]

i'm glad that people like Gunkos colors

[digital spear]

https://tenor.com/view/miss-goldenweek-color-trap-purple-one-piece-goldenweek-gif-26837745

[ocean totem]

First ever

And it happened 38 years ago

smh

Shattering Void is a pretty cool name though

[tranquil blade]

Wait this is a good gif W Shreeder W Speed

[odd rune]

you know what this means right

[runic dock]

Bro is about to have rocks say “king of the neotomas”

[hazy echo]

Does WB have dementia

[jade rain]

The only one that is not well received is sommers

[odd rune]

whitebeard was obviously going easy on everyone since then

[ocean totem]

He was holding back through all of Marineford because he never used a named one?

[sage temple]

Yeah real funny

[runic dock]

(Pack rats)

[ocean totem]

I knew it

[digital spear]

Whitebeard stopped naming his attacks in age

[odd rune]

LMFAO

[urban lodge]

She's looking the same direction so close enough

[glass plume]

yeah i suppose

[odd rune]

ahahhaha imagine

[stone terrace]

Mihawk is the only top tier left without a named move

[leaden rivet]

Yes rhis will become an actual argument now

[ocean totem]

I do wish the crack were larger though

[tranquil blade]

Whitebeard didnt have a named attack in Marineford cause he was suffering from dementia

[ocean totem]

but I guess it'd be hard to do that without him hogging that whole area of the page

[sage temple]

Loki as well ngl

[hazy echo]

I think they have one for every color

[runic dock]

He was dying of cancer anyway

[ashen perch]

Can't believe WB no diffed Akainu with just a fraction of his power

[ornate tartan]

it’s just gonna be a sword slash with haki and a name slapped on top

[hot cairn]

so it’s going to end up being Garp and Roger vs Rocks? Does that mean Kaido, BM and Whitebeard are about to get their ass kicked by demon Rocks? LOL

[hazy echo]

https://tenor.com/view/why-are-you-red-why-are-you-blue-breaking-bad-gif-9024936160348608213

[urban lodge]

Wdym

[hazy echo]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-jesse-pinkman-orange-why-are-you-breaking-bad-gif-17171993386443821418

[leaden rivet]

I can’t imagine oda doing WB dirty like that

[ashen perch]

Many are saying this, many are realizing it

[glass plume]

Mihawk's first named move will be like... "Black blade, eternal night blessing"

[runic dock]

I mean yeah , I can totally believe that , akainu got back up too

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/brie-larson-yeah-gif-27606512

[runic dock]

[ocean totem]

Tbh this is true even without the named attack bit

[tranquil blade]

I mean technically it is possible

[sage temple]

I'm onto you Illyasae

[hot cairn]

true

[hazy echo]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-yellow-gif-7072664531582229613

[ocean totem]

He may have been pissed, but dude was about to die and missing part of his face with no conqueror's to use

[urban lodge]

And I'm onto you Vortex

[hazy echo]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-jesse-pinkman-why-are-you-green-what-is-wrong-with-you-gif-774466718616765419

[ocean totem]

That really was nowhere near his strongest lol

[ashen perch]

Yeah, he did use ACoC this chapter

[leaden rivet]

The first time you spell my name right and it’s not even me

[hazy echo]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-jesse-pinkman-why-are-you-blue-gif-15851792565936245960

[glass plume]

man why are you spamming these different colored gifs

[jade rain]

A named attack isn't anything unique in op, just a getsuga tensho with a different name

[runic dock]

The crack in the middle btw is quake fruit

[ocean totem]

Big Mom being the smallest part of the panel when she's the biggest person there besides Kaido is kinda silly

[runic dock]

Just clarifying

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-why-are-you-true-why-are-you-gif-12689110662309846831

[ocean totem]

I'm sad about that

[ashen perch]

The named attack bit wasn't as important to me as this being his first time combining haki with Gura, like thats the real difference maker

[ocean totem]

Her Ikoku didn't even really get drawn

[ashen perch]

Earl I'm talking about the previous page

[stone terrace]

Ik its just a long running joke lol

[runic dock]

She was coming up on kaido from the way back and missed lmao

[leaden rivet]

A getsuga what?

[ocean totem]

Other series

[runic dock]

I love how even lost in her own world more concerned about kaido she still somehow contributed lol

[royal orchid]

anyone got the image of the angry monkey editing this image on Photoshop thinking he's calm

[wet condor]

I don't know if I should've said that

So I deleted

[runic dock]

Ahh gotcha

[ocean totem]

I wonder if the Davy line is the one that figured out the abyss first

[tranquil blade]

Oda has been weird with the scaling here tho, I swear there was a panel where Big Mom was noticeably smaller than Whitebeard

[ocean totem]

Imu wants to wipe them out so no one can take the power or diminish it

[blazing depot]

I’m the puppetmaster controlling both the lion and monkey

[glass plume]

doubt

[jade rain]

Bleach MC's main attack, like kamehame

[ocean totem]

There has been yeh lol

[blazing depot]

https://tenor.com/view/neil-patrick-harris-himym-how-i-met-your-mother-barney-stinson-barney-gif-7225749

[runic dock]

I bet darkness fruit can hack into the abyss

[tranquil blade]

Maybe she hadn’t fully grown yet idk

[sage temple]

Holy question bait you want us to ask what that is

[glass plume]

that wouldn't be good

[ocean totem]

With how Xebec's attack names are, it seems like it may be

[leaden rivet]

@wet condor I have

[runic dock]

In what way

[ocean totem]

I was wondering about that, you'd think it could with how it controls darkness

[glass plume]

sure if they did something, but they didn't

[wet condor]

Now I'm more confused lol

[ocean totem]

Could be part of why Blackbeard wanted it specifically, on top of stealing other powers

[ocean totem]

Why's that matter lol

[glass plume]

Imu needs to be defeated by Luffy

[jade rain]

Why do I want a question bait, literally many people know it

[runic dock]

Maybe it’s nothing too direct , but some kind of subtle “throwing off” of the ability happens if bb turns his darkness on at the same time

[digital spear]

Why is it Illyasae now and not Illyasee

[runic dock]

You gotta let go of the “needs”

[glass plume]

since it didn't seem to affect Imu in anyway

[tranquil blade]

Darkness fruit may allow him to manipulate the abyss somewhat, maybe it’s the counter to Imu’s abilties or at least one of them

[ocean totem]

Could be that it's the same darkness, so every time Blackbeard uses it there's less for Imu or something

[ocean totem]

But why would that matter?

[glass plume]

i mean if it was a counter to the abyss, then it should have no?

[sage temple]

Because she started speaking and closed her eyes

[runic dock]

Ooooh, man there’s a lot of interesting ways this could go

[tranquil blade]

Maybe an awakened yami fruit allows him to tap into the abyss

or something idk

[glass plume]

i'm just not interested in Blackbeard at all compared to Imu

[leaden rivet]

Wow this is a real post

[leaden rivet]

Good point I have no clue

[tranquil blade]

lol

[ocean totem]

I didn't say anything about a counter

[silent moss]

Seeing a pattern of Jiki jiki users only getting one shot because of sneak attacks

[glass plume]

then i misread

[urban lodge]

The jiki jiki is a cursed fruit

[blazing depot]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-god-valley-rocks-pirates-john-john-one-piece-gif-17382894523289875680

[stone terrace]

These things are difficult sometimes

[runic dock]

Seems like the abyss thing is a very malleable thing that exists for now , there’s no hard set rules on it , so whacky stuff like this could be possible , it’s like a science experiment , what happens if you mix these two chemicals together

[sage temple]

I've finally seen another Kid fan other than Shuron

[blazing depot]

What if Captain John doesn’t even like treasure for the value. He just likes the concept of treasure

[tranquil blade]

Oda hates Kidd so badly he curses everyone who also ate the fruit

[runic dock]

Bro acting like kid died twice

[glass plume]

Oda probably does it to spite people like this

[royal orchid]

captain john got defeated by THE STUPID BOMB SNOT FRUIT

[runic dock]

Just proves it’s the user not the fruit

[silent moss]

Second most
Popular supernova

[royal orchid]

LEFT ON THE GROUND LIKE A CARTOON CHARACTER WHO JUST SHOT ITSELF

[runic dock]

Shitty user

[urban lodge]

I need to know what fruit Wang Zhi has

[tranquil blade]

Why do they all just use their boogers

[ornate tartan]

Wunko

[tranquil blade]

There’s so much better usages of the bomb fruit

Why just that

[ocean totem]

It's straight magic so far

[ornate tartan]

where is gunko rn

[ocean totem]

Tons of potential

[blazing depot]

THEY KILLED MY GOAT CAPTAIN JOHN FUCK YOU ODA!!!!!!!

[glass plume]

i hope Imu's powers are kept as magic and not devil fruit related

[tranquil blade]

It feels too overpowered to just be a fruit

[sage temple]

Cant wait for Loki to disprove the vulnerability claims

[silent moss]

He doesn’t die on God valley

[hollow thorn]

For long range fire, it's the best solution that requires virtually no orep time

[blazing depot]

Emotionally vulnerable?

He loved Lola

He experienced heartbreak

[digital spear]

he debuted as a zombie bruh it was kinda obvious 😭

[blazing depot]

That’s vulnerability brother

[runic dock]

Don’t worry loki will turn demon without needing to be manipulated

[sage temple]

He's shown 0 aftereffects from that relationship twin

But I guess bro

[glass plume]

all Loki needs is the fangs

[jade rain]

It most probably is, i think he is going to use all element attacks too like logia

[digital spear]

calm down tough boy, its called vulnerability

[sage temple]

True

[hot cairn]

itll def be devil fruit related

[royal orchid]

you only really have a couple good ranged choices
-balls of tangled up hair
-boogers
-nails?

[glass plume]

yuck

that would be horrible

[ornate tartan]

since gunko is currently the one who’s body is being possessed by Imu and she is on God Valley even though she isn’t a Gods Knight yet I hope there is a reason oda bothered to include her in the God Valley flashback

[hot cairn]

why tho

[glass plume]

what kind of fruit would grant you this power

[royal orchid]

exploding toenail

[thick mango]

I kinda prefer a strong devil fruit to an entirely new power system

[sage temple]

Unless his fruit counters the power

[runic dock]

How about beads of sweat???

Wait no too much like other series

[tranquil blade]

Didn’t Mr 5. Use his like breath for an attack? also you could use spit

[glass plume]

domi reversi, regeneration, immortality, transformations, gifting powers to others

what kind of fruit

[thick mango]

literally any fruit could give you this power. myth zoans can have completely arbitrary powers.

[jade rain]

What is the point of showing gunko in GV when she does nothing

[glass plume]

it being a fruit would be so dumb

[thick mango]

shes gonna be the locus for imu like saturn is in gv

[ocean totem]

Same reason we're seeing Dragon

[digital spear]

yeah that shit aint just a fruit

[ocean totem]

She was there

[runic dock]

Would it be? Its in line with the power system this series set up , it would be more strange to be magic

[royal orchid]

gonna need to be one of those wild west spittoon masters lmao

[runic dock]

Use existing systems

[dull berry]

Luffy is the ONE PIECE the only white piece to play the game of reversi

[ocean totem]

To Imu themself sure

[glass plume]

Imu should have something out of the ordinary that no one else has

[ocean totem]

But the power can be used by others freely

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/ice-cube-waitwhat-wait-what-gif-3463862

[ocean totem]

No fruit allows that so far

[jade rain]

Dragon part builds his character and shows how he changed plus his morals

[glass plume]

i mean if they just have a godly fruit who gave them all this, then there's no point

[hot cairn]

cause she’s the one being controlled in the present

[blazing depot]

I’ve played reversi before and WON

[thick mango]

yeah idk i prefer a fruit to an entirely new power system

[blazing depot]

I can beat Imu

[ocean totem]

And Gunko will probably get a similar treatment

[thick mango]

no point of what?

[runic dock]

Yeah , it’s still the most broken fruit so far , other fruits lets you affect things in a wide range like moria and big mom , this seems like those fruits ++++

[tranquil blade]

The thing is no fruit has had this insane of a combination of abilities and none of them have allowed to affect other people quite the way Imu’s does

[glass plume]

ill just lose interest personally

[thick mango]

what is the alternative you prefer and why would it be superior to a fruit?

[tranquil blade]

Moria is really the blueprint

[glass plume]

black-magic

rituals

satanic

[wet condor]

I figured that was it lol

[jade rain]

But gv is almost over, i don't think if she is going to play any role now

[thick mango]

they are devil fruits. it could be tied up in imu's fruit

[runic dock]

Moria and Bm both I feel , because they could just kind of send their powers out there

[ocean totem]

It'd be superior to a fruit power because it means it's something potentially anyone can use

Imu's just the best at it

[runic dock]

And their powers act on their own in a way

[tranquil blade]

See Big Mom was inspired by Moria so really he is the goat

[glass plume]

i don't think it should be, since this feels like so much more than just a devil fruit

Imu can literally bestow their powers to others

[ocean totem]

There's plenty of time for something, even if it's just reviewing what it means to be a knight

[glass plume]

seemingly a limitless supply as well

[runic dock]

True true

[royal orchid]

wait what if you used arrows/daggers with your blood inside them, they could definitely explode with the power too right? it'd be a lot of work but

[ocean totem]

They can, but Moria's the only one whose powers could be used by others in some way like this

Since other people could gather shadows as long as they caught them when they got loose

[glass plume]

let me just stab myself real quick so i can throw this spear with exploding blood

[ocean totem]

But the whole traversing the abyss and needing a certain mark for it, it should be something just occult

[royal orchid]

with prep time man with prep time

[glass plume]

blood logia when

[royal orchid]

a bag of blood packets that just make a ginormous explosion

[runic dock]

Connecting it like that makes me believe it’s a fruit still, because we have a basis to branch off from (moria abilities) Oda seems to have driven those concepts to the max with imu , and I believe Bm had that too, remember she could send those little ghosts out to collect lifespan?

[sage temple]

Why would blood make it explode

[dull berry]

So is Davy Jones just a title like Joyboy, or is he still alive in his locker in the bottom of sea or some shit

[royal orchid]

what are you talking about

[urban lodge]

It's his name

Davy D. Jones

[glass plume]

Davy Jones is dead

[sage temple]

Put blood instead of glass

[glass plume]

it would be weird otherwise

[runic dock]

Davy jones is his name but jones is his first name because of Japan

[royal orchid]

I'm talking about the bomb bomb fruit

[runic dock]

Its Jones Davy

[digital spear]

why do you think it can only be those two things

[sage temple]

oh cool

[royal orchid]

awakened bomb bomb fruit would go absurd actually

turn anything into a bomb?

[glass plume]

the stuff which Imu uses is probably not new

[digital spear]

^

[glass plume]

they're just a master at it

[royal orchid]

imu just knows what to do

[jade rain]

The first name thing doesn't translate well with western way

[digital spear]

its still weird that Brook landed there

[royal orchid]

people like to pretend standalone magic doesn't exist in OP for some reason

[runic dock]

It’s just funny to think of it western , it’s Luffy Monkey vs Jones Davy

[royal orchid]

Kuma thought it would just be reallllllly funny

[runic dock]

Makes it sound like a different series almost lol

[ocean totem]

We aleady had that

[digital spear]

its because Oda said that. he was lying tho

[digital spear]

the thing is Kuma thought it was so funny to the point he didnt help those people initially

[ocean totem]

That's how Gladius's fruit worked

[hollow ferry]

that's just Kuma's df anything else is headcannon

[runic dock]

They’re talking about the writing on the ground

Not brook being summoned

[ocean totem]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-gladius-gladius-one-piece-bomb-explosion-gif-3526182081485487441

[runic dock]

He interrupted the ritual

[royal orchid]

yeah no Kuma had no idea otherwise he'd have helped them lmao

[royal orchid]

bean learns about duplicate powers in one piece: Volume 2

[runic dock]

Brook interrupted the ritual making those dudes think they did the ritual

They didn’t actually do it

[digital spear]

it would still be Davy Jones, and names like Edward Newgate, Marshall D. Teach and Bartholomew Kuma would finally have their first name sounding parts actually as the first name. and it would be Weevil Newgate

[ocean totem]

The point is it really wasn't that absurd

[magic sparrow]

Why does piratefolk complain so much

[runic dock]

Is this your wish? I don’t follow

[grand flower]

I think it’s also a reference to a certain majin storyline

[hollow ferry]

isn't this about the ritual doing actual magic? we have no evidence of that. for all we know that's just a delusional cult

[grand flower]

Another of Oda’s favorites

[royal orchid]

Joybum and Fraudger thoughts cloud your judgement

[grand flower]

Proud warriors being converted by evil magic into demons

[ashen perch]

Oh yea that too for sure

[digital spear]

its weird because either Kuma knew about all this or didnt help them, or he visited them but didnt ask about anything what they did, just about a cure for Bonney. or he met them before they started those satanic rituals, but then him sending Brook there would be a huge coincidence

[runic dock]

Yeah that much is true they could’ve been delusional , but those marks do exist in history since they’re trying to recreate this ritual and there’s books about them , so maybe people besides imu did them successfully too at one point

Idk

[digital spear]

well I kinda wish but it doesnt work because the Gol D. Roger thing also wouldnt work then

[ocean totem]

While that's true, we do know magic is a thing in One Piece

[runic dock]

Roger Dah Goal

[olive sun]

Loving the bantz between big mom and kaido

Domi Reversi is fucking stupid and I hope it gets concrete rules soon

[hollow ferry]

possible, I do admit Kuma sending brook there is odd. I just feel like that could be maybe also be very advanced technology from the ancient kingdom being confused for magic

[runic dock]

They’re my favorite big sister little brother duo, ulti and page one got a lotttttt of work to do

In that department

[hollow ferry]

like what?

[wet condor]

By end of arc, there'll be some limits revealed

Give it about 4 months

[runic dock]

Could also be possible tbh yea

[royal orchid]

could check the panel from kuma's flashback for any clues but ahhhhh they're so far awayyyyyy

[ocean totem]

Devil fruits

[digital spear]

or keep it as Gol D: Roger, have Roger his last name as sacrifice so the other names like Edward or Marshall can be first names. or change it to Rogers so it sounds more like a last anem lol

[hollow ferry]

ofc, but non-devil fruit magic?

[runic dock]

If black can make white pieces black on the game board , white can make black pieces white as well

[urban lodge]

Miss Goldenweek

[runic dock]

It works both ways

[ocean totem]

Devil fruits were made with it

[fallen meteor]

Roger d. Gol

[grand flower]

“Theres one thing an Elbaph giant always keeps….his pride!!!”

[royal orchid]

Gol D. , Roger

government name

[digital spear]

I checked them already because Ive been wondering about this for a while. it was not included

we only saw him visit a few of those places, not Brooks

[fallen meteor]

Rol d goger

[olive sun]

I understand its counter its just Othello
What I struggle to understand is why Imu didnt use this to immediately subjugate most threats

[royal orchid]

oh weird

[fallen meteor]

Are you following the home theory

[olive sun]

Not like there's always a Shonen hero on the island and is it that hard for a holy knight to sneak into a nation for him to possess

[hollow ferry]

or the ancient kingdom made devil fruits with technology. There's still even these insane theories that the red line was an ring shaped spaceship around the planet and fell down

[royal orchid]

if I had to bet, the conflict wasn't happening then, Kuma would definitely have helped them
so no need for ancient evil magic rituals

[fallen meteor]

Gv valley is where rocks is from > his clan and him got reversi
Elbaf is the giants home > they get reversi

[royal orchid]

just sent brook to whatever island

[olive sun]

Why can't he do this for all non ally nations

[urban lodge]

Why would he

[royal orchid]

and it 🎰🎰🎰

[olive sun]

Just throw someone at Wano for him to pop out of like a tumor and Reversi a samurai

[ocean totem]

The technology was dreams lol

[olive sun]

There's no cost and you potentially take back an enemy nation from Joyboys descendants

[royal orchid]

Mu works in mysterious ways.

[ocean totem]

Their technology probably incorporated magic, too

[runic dock]

The marines don’t know he exists or does things like that , I think imu is still trying to play a certain role , because maybe it’s better to rule over people that can act on their own than just play with your toys forever

Idk

Spitballing

[urban lodge]

No one could challenge Imu for 800 years

What's the point

[olive sun]

I totally buy this for why he doesn't show up in WG nations or like, something as televised as Marineford

[ocean totem]

Imu's been getting challenged constantly

They just don't do the fighting directly usually

But notice how God Valley ends with only Xebec dying

[olive sun]

It's the weirdo secret kingdoms who've been Othered by the WG for centuries as propaganda to undermine them that I can't make ammends with

[urban lodge]

Well I mean direcly, in a way that necessitates Imu to direcly intervene

[olive sun]

Dude sits on top of Fishman Island

[hollow ferry]

John too 💀

[olive sun]

A CD has already been down there before

[ocean totem]

John died later I'm pretty sure

[fallen meteor]

Why did nobody there ever say anything about domi tho
Roger garp BM kaido

[runic dock]

Maybe he gets a kick out of that , knowing they can’t do anything about it , of their own free will

[olive sun]

Just send a HK on a 48 hour mission so you can Domi Reversi the whole island and never deal with it again

Who'd know what happened

[ocean totem]

His own crew kills him

[fallen meteor]

Didn't they all see it?

[olive sun]

It's isolated

[ocean totem]

Why would they care?

As far as they know this is just another devil fruit power

They don't know the significance of Imu really

[runic dock]

None of them have context , and even this whole thing could be explained as “some offshoot of rocks crazy abilities latched on to st Saturn and made him go crazy “

Easy

[fallen meteor]

I still think there's some memory fuckery

[tough dust]

in world where there is so many different crazy abilities i doubt they will care

like newgate could destory the world if he wants to

[runic dock]

They’ll explain all this away as an event started by rocks , and controlled by rocks , including the demons and black tendrils

All rocks

He’s the perfect patsy fall guy

Nobody would know any better and nobody would question it without being erased and no one would give garp clarification

[urban lodge]

Oh yeah we also do know they did try to conquer Wano

Ryuma just protected them

[runic dock]

It made the marines cautious of the place for hundreds of years he must have really did damage lol