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We still haven't heard of Xebec's opinion of Joyboy.
How has Xebec not brought up Joyboy even once?
yeah right now it sounds busted
But someone said thats why joyboy became a pirate
I want Imu to be free from this, its not a very interesting ability, he should be doing a million different things than this
Buggy cooked w that homeland post
THE TWO PAGE SPREAD RETURNED 





and yes, the fact that its busted
Aint his theory
agreed
oh yeah i’m trippin
Hm interesting
And also imu literally ask for a king in elbaf ( which is still have no king ) after dorry bcome king, he turned to devil
1.5 page spread this chapter right at the start too
It was interesting to see Captain John had Kid's powers
Buggy richest man in the world soon 
I like the goofy book of spells
it looked cool this chap
HOMELAND THEORY FUELS THE "CELESTIAL DRAGONS GETTING DOMI REVERSI'D IN THE FINAL WAR" THEORY AS WELL
I'm going all in!
he spread it though
That shit was mad cool.
no one was talking about it before
It does ngl
Kid shoud take notes
Imus personal army
@hollow dove how do you feel about having confirmation
yea, I mentioned this in spoilers chat, its the only time he should use it after Elbaf imo
Wait what's the homeland theory?
The only thing to stop it is literally war at mariejois !!
After this peak chapter it's time to read some chapters of a peak series
I’m wondering now if at the end of it all, John DOES end up with most of the Rocks Pirates treasure chests and that’s the treasure that Buggy is hunting for
You already know which one
i really don’t like the idea of CDs being domi reversi’d, such a cheap way of taking them out
As “king” he is probably given a role as player if it goes by the board game reversi. Maybe it would take an heir like loki or harjudin to flip people back
Judging Imu based off Nerfmu and their limited moveset...
Preemptively saying Blobmu even though this isn't imu's true body right now...
speaking of which, Loki getting Domi'd would certainly fit my idea of the arc going 70 more chapters, I can see it for sure
I ALREADY KNOW BABY

Homeland theory being real >
Imunko tries to Domi Reversi Loki >
It doesnt work >
Elbaf was never his home
while i do want imu to not use literally only domi reversi don't think i want them to use a new bullshit attack every time with the grimiore, we have to get some repeating things
LETS FUCKING PROCEED

There are so many busted things and domi reversi is just one of them. There might be more coming
looks way more likely it only works on people who are either not in the best mental state or angry at imu than the homeland theory lol
I believe not always be heir but yeah the concept is almost the same
It would parallel his idol and father
Plus it’s been reiterated several times this arc that Loki is weakened, and Gerd said it would take him a month to heal, Domi Reversi could heal him back to normal
The only problem I have with the homeland theory is that, how did the dream monsters get domi reversi'd?
Explain why the Elbaf giants (not dorry brogy) and the Davy clan got turned then?
They were born on elbaf technically
The dream moster is qilingham power
they didnt?
They were born from the dreams of the people in Elbaph
becuase they saw their leaders turn into demons?
wdym lol
they are just nightmares from killingham's df
I think only luffy can free people from domi reversi 
the first thing that came to my mind is that it means returning to their original role. like the davy clan and giants might've served the same power that imu now uses
Qilingham is holding back, but when imu arrives he going all out
Shanks getting into a chest would've been such a cool moment if Oda hadn't told us in a fucking flyer to promote a dogshit movie three years ago
They were not born actually they were manifested from kids dreams through killingham powers
film red w
Sure seems like drawing blood is part of forcing a contract with the pirates describing the pain as conpelling
…but did you see the BMW tho?
captain john was the MFer, kaidou was talking about when he said "pirates will sail away when they know u will lose"
eh, I mean yea Imu should not be able to literally everything but also I think him doing like maybe 50 different things is fine. Its Imu.
The grimoire is peak
Compared to Enel, thats a lot more.
It's evil toon force
i think those are just more nightmared versions or something like that
Enel is not the main antagonist
The “good guys” or “pure of heart” guys can resist it and people with “impure intentions” won’t or whatever
Idk Oda, good luck writing out of this one, otherwise why can’t Imu just reversi the entire crew
Indeed
I think of it as a natural evolution of Kaido
and BM
look at how much they could do
Nami really needs to interrogate Zues about what he’s witnessed
Powerscalers, what level diff was this
Maybe, but the teeth growing gives a hint of domi reversi.
500 important information because of movie red
I need to knwo
mr nose fancy
Imu is gonna blow all that away, he is gonna do what Kaido and BM can do and more
Imu has a lot of guns and they can shoot them good
did you finish reading
they're a menace from society a boy(?) on the hood
i’m going to miss ganzui
If homeland theory is true
Then this is basically joyboy vs all king whos got demonized by imu 💀
imagine each of Imu's Saturn legs open a book
yeah
this looks like one of your drawings so much
I’d say maybe Domi Reversi has a “limit” but look at Elbaf in present day
Idk man it’s just a broken power with seemingly no way around it
He looks like Grimmace
oh yea how the fuck did that leg pattern thing work lmao
true
The Imu Shake coming to McDonald’s (only in Japan fuck you) 2026
he just, made the leg patterns pop out of Saturn's legs and made tentacles out of it
mcdonalds should to an Imu shake collaboration
oda is here and taking inspiration from you
My opinion of Garp changed for the better after this chapter, I like how he joined all the pirates to hit Imu
Imu has toon force -1
can we at least get the Ace breakfast donut in America 🥺
I guess its just anti-toonforce, evil toonforce, whatever you may wanna call it
its ink dude he's demon ink logia or something
yeah I hate that so much, I hate when OP movies come out and spoil shit from the future
oh god yee
thigh is actually Oda
i believe it
If I can’t get a Chihiro Burger with Hakuri Fries, nobody gets to get an Imu Shake
or joyboy got domi reversid
I don’t really like how they use the same technique I would have preferred if he used it differently
Which of the following is stronger?
1️⃣ Shanks' Divine Departure
2️⃣ Ganzui's Sky Snake Red Cannon
Keep in mind: Both moves 1 shot the Jiki user of their generations.
There was NO reason at all to tell us that and to reveal Shanks' last name
is there even a counter to it? Feels busted
To showcase devil fruits are based on the user
But joyboy aint a king
kaidos Dragon
Best I can do is a sticker collab in happy meals. All in Return to Sabaody outfits.
the homeland idea is perfect, that it can only affect a person when they are in their homeland
Please write yourself out of why Reversi is not an auto-win button
GEAR NIKA
Me when Oda introduced Logia’s in 2002
the one piece is one piece of the sea demon's body and it's bleeding and the blood has legendary powers and it was very famous back on the void century (also the source of all dfs, you drink it and you get powers) and Imu had the 'blood of the sea devil' logia
there, solved
next series
i feel that limits it a tad bit too much though
Can’t wait for all the rocks slanderers faces when he resists the domi reversi next chapter 
cause that means we’ll never see it again till like mariejois lmao
it would be interesting if one of the strawhats gets domi reversid (Zoro)
To counter domi reverse Luffy will need to unlock super advanced conqueror's haki +++
The act of setting out to the sea, as a pirate, that itself would be a counter to Domi Reversi. Its brilliant.
@ashen perch
ancient haki…
Ppl are still thinking this is drawn by Oda 😭😭😭😭😭
lmao
It is
that misunderstanding will never end
i think it will ned, actually
That’s not even that far off lol
Wdym?
Its not ?!

it’s a fan drawing based on sketches by oda
It’s fan made
scribbles
well it's based on something oda drew
scribbles by Oda
Oda version
Ohh
yeah like how does that help to promote the movie
Right
Seemingly no limit (Elbaf giants are being mass Reversi’d)
Haki doesn’t do crap (Rocks is a Hakiman)
Seemed fairly quick to do
Same thing to me 
You missed the joke 
it rewards you for watching
Right but ppl are saying Oda messed up on the moustache and Rayleigh’s outfit lol
At least new fans who are catching up now won't know that before hand
holy fuck. a full double page spread. 10/10. but also too short.
The only get out of jail free card is “muh Nika can’t be reversi’d”
"hakiman" 😭
To get manga readers to come out for the info they’ll reveal in movies
how does the legendary roc and his magical blood from Romance Dawn fit into all the blood piece
I hope it’s not a Nika thing lol
perfect thigh
What if imu reversed back
The drums of liberation are the key to stopping reversi imo
I feel like robin could be immune to domi reversi with what she did in Wano. Its like she does that to herself already
Great question!
We don’t even know how it fucking works yet and you pedantic contrarian crybaby fucks are already crying foul over it?
i mean you just said it, oda already thought of those concepts
just makes my theory stronger
you can even say the sea devil makes you unable to swim in the "pact" as a way to guard themselves, since their main power is the sea
Idk Imu gives up
ok so Rocks getting domi reversi'd was correct, which yeah makes sense. but I did not expect him to be forced to kill his wife and child. I wonder if he begs Roger and Garp to kill him?
damn it dude i feel i actually solved this
New doublespread
also its really funny how Kaido tried a new attack name but all he could come up with was Dragon
I dont like that idea it sounds do stupid lol
she just gets an evil twin 
oh yeah question for the japanese readers - does rocks also refer to imu as a "king" in the original text
NAMED WHITEBEARD ATTACK
Rocks BEGS Roger and Garp to murder his bitch wife and annoying ass kid
Me neither which is why I was praying for Haki immunity
yes lol
Yes
our first named whitebeard attack, crauy
This is proof that kaido genuinely sat down and thought of every single attack name for his fruit
well that settles that then
Goda remembered
Insane
Not necessarily. Big mom says she wants to be pirate king
Doesn't mean Imu is make
kinda problematic against rats wtf
Male
Wb attack name is kinda ass maybe he should have kept quiet like usual and just put the earthquake in the bag
how many pages was this chapter? it barely felt like 12
As feeso said
He wont, the homeland idea is gonna be true I think. Luffy might be able to reverse it tho
Like 14
Look up rat king, you’ll be grossed out. It’s the perfect metaphor for the WG
One was a double spread
Man you almost tried to ban me huh 🤣
so any idea on domi reversi limitation? Btw what is domi in this context? Is this a phrase from something else?
The reading for the WB attack is "HAKUA" sort of like "BAGUA"....
after the battle was over they all laughed at the name and he decided to drop all names for attacks
the chapter was 17 pages lol, standard length
the kua in the "Hakua" attack name is a reference to a monk in buddhism named Kua apparently
It's gonna be some power of love bullshit
Best chapter omg
just not quite as packed as usual
Oda using Kid's DF to secure John's famous treasures and have it set up where Shanks would be found is a certified Goda moment. 11/10
Im not going to lie. God valleys action hasnt been great. But at least oda gave it a double page spread
Imu transforms Nami and she resists it with Luffy's help because power of love
Wow sick
that makes a lot of sense
rocks remembers his love for his wife (not his kid he hates him) and snaps out of domi reversi
intresting thanks for that link
Respect to Captain Johnn who got full page
also manga is also in on the homeland theory
Peak peak peak
This is kidd upscale
Peak
They both got one tapped 😭
Modern One piece manga’s action isn’t generally great in general, outside a couple fights
imu deserves forgiveness
It would have been nice for kaido to mention kids power being his dad's
Rocks it was nice ride 
The strength is in other elements
oh wtf it is real, i just tried it. if this is true, that is such a extremely weird limitation that I actually would want an explanation for
imu did nothing wrong
Imu did nothing wrong
so maybe we could get Buggy and Kid meet now
Assume Homeland Theory is correct -->
What if Nami was a celestial dragon? Found in Oykot from a hunting competition (another theory, we assume to be correct) like what happened w Shanks/Shamrock.
If Nami was a celestial dragon, her homeland is Marijoa.
What if in the final war, Imu domi reversi's (Or at least tries to) Nami?
Luffy rescues Nami for the final war. A callback to Arlong Park. The East Blue.
The flashback continues to impress. 1998 Oda is back.
Buggy upscale
People will argue that choreography vs kaido was fantastic
As long as it leads to LuNa meek you have my agreement
Let's goo young oda is back! The goata
spoiler alert. Teach lives
Banned for spoilers
Yeah also, my favorite part is that it would mean the act of piracy itself is countering Domi Reversi. Setting out to the sea, leaving your homeland and being free; thats what hurts Imu the most. Maybe Joyboy being the first pirate had something to do with Domi Reversi all along too.
Is the narrator stupid ?!
and then they fall in love and i off myself as a result
yeah it's more of an informal way in latin but it's exactly the translation lmao
Mods, this man spoiled
If John treasure was worth 1 billion per chest 38 years ago then inflation caused that to go up

rocks is probably getting killed by garp or roger
Buggy is about to be with so much money
to protect teech and his mother
Maybe the anime version. I think the manga version is good but it’s hardly the best fight scene you’ll see in manga or even op. It’s a highlight of modern op tho. I think I like vs Katakuri more
i'm assuming Rocks begs Roger and Garp to kill him.
Why do you have to clarify modern one piece action when it's never been that great 
It’s about akainu worth
Imu kinda broken damn
Is it where you were born, where you call home or where you last lived?
if Oda had balls he'd kill off blackbeard in this flashback
the john treasure panel was tough
The best choreographed fights have been in the last few arcs makes you think
Imu really just did not care
I think pre skip has better choreography, or at least more detailed
Probably a top 10 Garp moment.
the Arlong Park/Final War parallel was invented by me, youre not taking this from me smh
It was the manga they were referring to
Lol nobody reads one piece for action or for fight choreography.
Oda is genuinely awful at writing that sort of thing. He only is good at writing hype clashes.
Not even trying to bait you or anything, a lot of his fights are awkward and seem very superficially done
Honestly loving Garp like f it I'm a take a shot at the elders
born
Rocks going to kill his wife and kid
But then roger and garp trying to stop him
Then I disagree

hmmm well you're wrong
this is the other idea yeah, i just hope Rocks is sentient enough to ask it of them too
As the saying goes: "Nobody goes to a strip club to find love" the same way "Nobody watches One Piece to watch good fight scenes in the anime"
full page spread
He can do it meek, he just doesn’t have the page or pannel time to focus on it anymore, he needs to finish
if the theory is correct, Domi Reversi is the strongest power ever if you're the invader during a war
LuNa whispers in your ear and you deny it
lmao
also as for fights

everyone knew this since 2010
if ure got domi reversied, u basically lost control of logical thought, iirc in elbaf
When we go back to the present, it’ll be more detailed I’m sure
Oda can def do good fight scenes it just more like when he actually focuses on them
i know i know. my hope is that Rocks at least for a moment gets his wits back.
i quite enjoy this version of kaido
Luffy vs Kata was really good
Arlong park. is not really a park. Is it supposed to be a water park? It was quite small.... Who are the intended park attendees?
Ohhh … i seee
big ass kid😂
scary hobi hobi no mi
But God Valley is nerfed by being sorta like Marineford and flashback piece
fishmen
slaves I think
So the fighting is subpar
that double page spread is so good it hurts
fishman ethnostate
Yet ppl said its kaido > oden… bruh this guy still weak 😭
I dont think theres been many moments where I have felt that Oda was lacking in his ability to draw action when he was actually trying to draw a detailed fight, no difference between pre/post for me honestly
OP action is vastly overhated
I ..I ..ii....almost lost it it was to much
The land was promised to them 3000 years ago!
meeeeek
LMAO
the 1.5 spread at the first panel too
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yes that
Without spoilers what is a series you feel does it better or right
go back to your streamers or w/e
who tf is daks
Oden vs Kaido was pretty significant and Oda offscreened most of it
cousin
Who?
it's just as funny the 5th time actually
chapter reaction 
Peaks Sake
Imu really does not care about getting hit at all
I really don’t want Luffy to be able to reverse it
Some towns have park in the name
how powerful is Imu when controlling someone then? All these greats, and Rocks in his prime, attacking Imu simultaneously. WTF chance does Luffy have on Elbaf? I now think it will be Brook that sends Imu back to Marijoa with music that brings Gunko out of her mental slump.
welcome back pre ts logias
South Park
and remember guys
No break week
but yea, this is a flashback, it was silly to expect a detailed fight, this flashback is ending within 4 chapters at best so don't expect much from Rocks v Garp and Roger too
Like he gets hit by 6 of the strongest people there and he feels nothing
he will play her her song as she dies
He literally just goes back to talking
She will NOT die
oh fuck
i guess this means acoc isn’t the counter
Oda goes on a four chapter run to end God Valley..
Imu actually kind of got upscaled super hard this chapter.
Imu stronger than the whole world
it's all over the screen
Imu can only be beat by nika
i'm wondering now
Like thats really the logical conclusion
Well Imu is like extra super duper special regen where only 1 guy can hurt him
because it's missing
One Piece
I could see brook being able to posses people and than make Imu leave there consciousness possibly! But also Luffy does have Nika don't know if it will matter but if there was something
but then i think of the BB kill Imu theory. Maybe bb exploits something with the yami
Wormu
The other special fruit...
Cross Guild about to nuke pirate island for that treasure 
I get the feeling possibly rocks and BB didn't believe the Nika fruit was real or the Nika fruit failed before?
Peter upscale

I wonder what Imu meant by this, does he want the world to sink?
Loki upscale?
Also did Whitebeard and Rocks just get attack names?
Oh yeah of course Oda didn't reveal shit about the special fruits
man those grapes that i ate earlier must have been going bad i legit am believing some dumb ass theory i made up
Whitebeard not having any named attacks was kinda a good gimmick
Dragon ball, Naruto (first two thirds only), even bleach… Hunter is better tactically, I think OP is like a B in this category. It just shines brighter in every other category to make up for it.
Dragon Ball especially is planets ahead of One Piece when it comes to fight paneling. Toriyama was a paneling genius. Oda is more of a writing and design genius
the legend of spoilers chat says "only by a being made of a different kind of darkness and the embodiment of the sun and freedom"
I wonder if this dude is Frankys real father like what was the move he uses?
yes
Special fruits: Nika and Yami
mihawk is the last man standing 
No actually
There’s a reason why imu want jones dead…
Basically all these ppl is important figure of imu downfall
cancerbeard didnt rate the assmirals enough to use a named attack 🤣

luffy couldnt get past it on egghead, gaban couldnt get past it against sommers and rocks couldnt get past it against garling
The goat
Garp's still not afraid to speak his mind, good on him
Maybe he thing this skull was the skull of pirate island lol
BTW, Mr. 5's fruit, right?
yea
Yea
FACT: Whitebeard didn't use attack names in Marineford because he suffered from moderate dementia
ohh maybe
Yeah
will this happen
Using the same booger bomb
Hmm yeah idk none of those have as much dynamic perspective as oda tho
yc wake UP 1163 JUST DROPPED
this is so bad holy shig
shig
Omg I'm dumb I didn't even notice that
Define dynamic perspective?
its funny because I wanted Rocks to have that fruit and now one of his crewmates has it
Imu is gonna be a pitch black silly little creature, hot woman Imu is probably dead
Garp cooking this flashback also
hes gonna be like a
Im saving the idea its dead for now, Mainly because this isn't Imu's body, but a possesion
small guy
He really was nonchalant about all that
I mean we're seeing imu acting here and everyone's just seeing a blob of abyss with two eyes
So their body would just be all blobby
Imu knows Garp saw him and/or Saturn. Why in the fuck did he let him live after this? Surely this would be a "knows too much" moment? Or does he think keeping him the face of the Marines is good for world-wide morale in pacifying the masses?
I mean just look at the chapter, how can you still think theres a fucking Vivi lookalike doing all this
he's a blob of ink
Is Imu purposefully aurafarming?
Yes
Yeah garp at the end of the day upholds their status quo
honestly at this point he might actually just be a blob
When you see Luffy throw a gear 3rd and you see how far and big it is from the openet or really any time Luffy stretches
would be great
So imu kinda just keeps him around i guess
Also W Garp W Speed
I think the gorosei care more about people seeing Imu than Imu himself
id be fine with blob imu
and Garp said...nothing about this?
Blobmu
Garp has no idea what Imu is
he kinda reminds me of Blueno in this particular panel
Still, imagine seeing THAT
Mu means nothingness iirc
He stinks it's just Saturn
Idk if anyone would believe him
To him that's just a weird monster
It's like seeing an alien and trying to tell the police about it
Could be related
I will accept this answer through gritted teeth.
imu is one the us dollar
Garp tho got some points from me
true, the main body can still end up being different but its looking unlikely for now
They laughed at me when I said the gorosei were shadow blob monsters
I was just early
Imunati
Ye, ive been calling imu is just a pitch dark creature with no appearance!!
he's usually more similar to Patty tho, in earlier panels
Just like roger
Pretty cool that Garp punched god and got away with it tho, considering god is his superior
They cant kill garp
imu = illuminati
Garp did most of the damage too btw
All the marines would DIP
You can still see Saturn’s head, it’s not just Imu taking over, there is a physicality that Imu is adding to on top of Saturn.
Bros a symbiote
wait, did Kaido just name his attack "Dragon" but couldn't figure out how to finish the attack name?
Very easily missed but so cool
@vital heart dak is saying Imu is so thriller bark monster
It's really cool, it's like a parasite
He saw dragon running around and wanted to say hi
now it makes snese

It’s Boro Breath
If Imu took over Venus instead (Ik he wasnt there) he wouldve won instantly
I know Jay D is gonna crash out once he reads the chapter
Kaido been funny this flashback
1/6
Took over the weakest gorosei and still won easily
I can fix her
I started hearing the dragon ball super song when they started attacking
Gunkmu > Saturnmu btw
Truke....
Even if bro possessed usopp
Not even luffy could still won 😭
I still have a feeling that's Gunko
Indeed
Nika being rubber hose animation and Imu being an inky blob might be artistically appropriate.
Oda really needs to get rid of that silhouette though
Garp is lucky they needed someone on the marines to take all the credit
No I dont think Imu looks like that
Not a silhouette
Nevermind, she can ruin me
not ready for Charlosmu
imu is baphomet devil fruit
I really do think there is no silhouette and that just is Imu’s default appearance now
Its def a form he takes
I'm hoping Garp hurts Imu some way
His main body no but in this form
Saturnmu > gunkmu 😔

Yeah maybe it is a shadow body
I'm not sure Imu felt anything at all considering they weren't actually physically there.
dude if the one piece is actually the last living part of the sea devil and it's bleeding and the blood makes dfs and imu has the logia of that specific blood 
Damn
Oda does combat set pieces well. The big moves. When I say his choreography is weak I mean the connective tissue, the easy to follow paneling the simple interactions. He sets up hype moments and cuts away and cuts back for the set pieces, combat is less his focus of course but we also lose clarity. I’d agree One Piece has some of the most striking combat panels in manga, and thematically it’s rich, but battles themselves are not satisfying out of context. I can watch an early Naruto or Dragon Ball fight and enjoy the simple moves for being clever or easy to follow and satisfying without context just as a contest.
Imu manifested himself in Saturn's tumor
When a revocel says something so celestialphobic you have to hit them with that domi reversi stare
@wraith mantle This fucker actually got domi reversi'd
the more perplexing question is how did shanks substitute himself with a log in dragons arms
You said you'd dislike it too
Usopp wouldnt be phased
Bruh imagine dragon comes to and sees shanks missing and potentially till this day thinks he failed to save him
He would just be stronger
Yeah it’s unfortunate
@vital heart Dak reached the rat king part
He saw one episode of naruto
No he just says dragon, I think he just got his fruit so couldn’t think of anything better lol
where is Sb
Imagine what?
Stop
Nah im sayin the host isn’t the reason

sbeeing
Does this mean that the world is simply not 100% in their control or that there is something important missing (ancient weapon? a race, like how BM collects them?)
I dislike it because it’s the most predicted outcome, pretty boring

I wonder how Garp even avoided being kicked out of marines or death in general after attacking one of the Elders.
Knowledge
And rocks gonna kill his own family?
Knowledge is power
Damn I really couldnt disagree more. I feel out of Naruto and dragon ball they both are messier to read for action than onepiece specifically bleach and yeah dragon ball is clear to read but also most the fights are just punching and energy attack and major dragon ball fights are Gags for the early part
BRO ITS MISSING
ONE
PIECE
I think imu always planned to flood the world
Well I thought it was pretty obvious that was gonna happen
Oda really lost his creativity
WG hasn’t conquered all the world aka if this happened, basically imu could domi reversied entire world 

Theres still people out here who know of figures like nika joyboy davy, gods in general
Thats why they must go
What is
Your point
Garp actively trying to kill one of the elders and inadvertently trying to kill the literal king of the world and just chilling afterwards keeping his job and everything is kinda aura
?
?
sometimes i imagine this is what fats looks like
Yeah but didn't joy boy cause it?
Give the man time to respond
he had a theory where he said Imu and the thriller bark monsters are connected
ooh, well this actually could be an answer. but then why? so that only they remain at the top of the red line?
Lunarians, extinct (maybe)
Fishman (enslaved)
Davy clan (extinct)
D clan (enemies but under surveillance)
Giants (i forgot ngl)
Maybe he wasn't the warrior of oppression after all
Bro wanted a piece of the goresei I was so hype
If they got rid of garp every marine quitting
Oda bringing back the thriller bark monsters 
Kinda insane this is technically still the elbaf flashback
We haven't seen a giant in chapters...
Giants he wants to use as an army
Imu giving off transform vibes in that panel
Chat
damn
How long does this flasback took, 5 month ?
damn oda got lazy
I guess Rocks is gonna ask Roger and Garp to kill him
It really did take a domi reversi for Xebec to be evil
Yea but idk how the world seen giants, ig they seen them as viscious warriors
All I could think about this chapter is that I could imagine Imu being a villain in Spongebob
Sorry
Oda couldve made God Valley remotely fitting to Elbaf by having harald join rocks and be in god valley but he is a hack
Kaido is immaculately drawn here.
Oda is such a coward
In my one piece domi reversal would have made rocks good
Well yeah because he was just never that evil
that's two full spreads 53 chapters apart after not having any since chapter 800
cool chapter
Imu uses the liquify tool
Luffy domi reversal 🗣️
Heh... just a look into my twisted mind...
three
you forgot the mural
oh yeah
And all it took was 38282 breaks in a year let's fucking gooo
Imu is photoshop
nice to see oda is starting to remember what full spreads are, all three have looked great
interesting that Imu's attacks seem to not hurt directly?
this is like that part from undertale chat
Well besides the gun
pain that is compelling?
yeah besides that
That marine is just a freak
man Dak immediately caught on that Ganzui has Mr. 5s fruit, I feel stupid
They were saying Kaido was gonna be the hype tool when it was just Rocks the whole time
y'know, this feels like a very important moment. that even the king of the world, 800 years later, is unsure if Davy Jones is alive or not. could he be cursed to the sea floor? this more or less cofirms Joy Boy was not Davy Jones otherwise Imu would show a greater deal of emotion (like with the haki burst on egghead).
Saturnmu is very different from Gunkmu, he looks like a parasite growing out of Saturn's head
Could be a joy boy thing
I imagine imu would call luffy joyboy as well
but I doubt Davy Jones was JOy Boy
He did
Xebec's nose is interesting
Maybe Imu is just partially blind
Imu has the Photoshop Photoshop fruit model adobe
I think he can see whos who
I.e the bounties in his room
They actually just cant tell
No I mean davy jones did die but reincarnates spiritually
with how all these pirates are so focused on getting treasure, why tf do some people out there have an issue with nami going after treasure 
adobe adobe model photoshop
I need the Ancient Kingdom flashback so badly
“Saturn, why did you allow Joyboy to escape” when he nuked him
Like how luffy is this eras joyboy rocks was that eras davy jones
? Big mom
Yeah that is better lol
not a giant
not a giant g
Misogyny
Sadly we still got like 167 chapters before that happens
ye big shes not a giant
still a human
I mean but joy boy and Davey Jones are the same person 😏 Davey D. Joynes
are you suggesting Joy Boy and Davy Jones both existed during the Ancient Kingdom or was Davy from another time period?
What did that lil menace do
man tis gotta b rageb8
Yea
yeah i wouldn't even be mad if we got it in the middle of something else
probably more
i also crave Imu's reveal
also did baby shanks literally use the substitution jutsu, a full log of wood in dragon's arms and all
like closer to 200+
i'm still confused by this
haki substitution
Imu joyboy and davy jones were then and now it's imu luffy and bb and people will still cry when you say bb will be a final villain
U alr seeing it
davy jones
yeah I didnt get that either
how did that happen
Cant let anyone know the truth
Abyss
Shanks haki powers showing early
liquify is pretty fun for quick stupid edits
there's no end to the shanks glaze 
the smallest giant is morley and she's way smaller than her
Shanks is cheating already
Its Shanks's abyss mark going out of control
Shanks was destined to be a ninja
Evil baby
well what if Morley is the SECODN SMALLEST GIANG?? never thoguth of that HUH????
And she was one vs oneing an admiral best giant
Shanks will always be the sneakiest fighter of all time
The davy jones promise was to kill imu and bb will fulfil it just letting you all know now
Okay Garp, they allegations are off xd
Just in case you aren't ready

Right?
what if every human is a giant and Leo is the smallest giant
I'm not ready
the fact that Shanks was mistaken for a log must mean that he was pretty hard and sturdy already as a baby. surely this is shanks upscale
leo isnt human 😭
Shanks was floor diffed
Stop the giantification

We'll need to throw him off a cliff to see how he compares
great idea
I included dwarfes
inclusive user
-Chopper to Caesar
W inclusion
in current baby scaling i'm pretty sure shanks is last place
WC
W YC W Inclusivity W Speed
Whole Cake
will anyone ever beat baby loki
I’m sure that’s key to it but xebec still mentioned 2 fruits
baby joyboy
W imu
joybaby
So Imu got blasted by 6 of the strongest motherfuckers at the same time and doesn't seem to stop Imu at all
At least in this possession form
if you flip rocks upside down he looks like he's being thrown around
Only ancient haki able to stop him….
I imagine nika can reversi people back just because he's anti imu
What do yall think of the double spread??
AYEEEEEEEEEE
he looks like he’s doing the mario pussy attack
yc did you read my newest totally accurate theory
That's what the darkness fruit Blackbeard wanted is for, to cancel Imu's power
it had to be a double spread because of the scale but i think it doesn't quite stack up to the very best in the story
literally the same
Joyboys mom will give birth to him over a cliff and he will fall deep into the earth to the core and bathe in the magma and climb all the way up and just laugh
thats why hes the sun god
People just make anything
Pez>>>
Its a cool spread because it's people we know are cool all together all attacking the main villain of the story
that baby doesn’t have a good sense of humor
it's honestly not anything that special for me the gorosei spread was miles better
excuse me this one is a classic
this feels incomplete
But like visually removed of context its not like a top 5 double spread or anything
what is it
Its not even top 10 probably
uhh let me get it
But theres no bad double spread
Well my fault for not knowing about Mario Pussy Attack
Wait until Toei Piece drop
and they all FAILED miserably and did 0 DAMAGE. i know this wouldn't happen if mihawk was there
6 of the strongest AT THE TIME, important distinction, because everyone there except xebec got stronger later in life
That's WHY mihawk wasn't there oda couldn't end the story that early
i can’t wait until rocks fights the final villain next chapter (baby teach)
Wait
#also-manga message it starts here then i add this #also-manga message and #also-manga message
So much bb lore that I think bb is gonna appear in elbaf
Waiting...
please study for the next test
This means that
Current Imu > Current (Luffy + Blackbeard + Shanks + Dragon + Akainu + Kuzan + Mihawk) COMBINED
anyway i don't think it really matters in the slightest was attacked imu there
it could be everyone in the universe combined
When I think of tbe best one piece spreads my mind just goes back to any given spread in skypia
they have regen
You’re absolutely incorrect
we do be saying things
gotta get rid of the regen before you do anything
They’re not the same people
Its just imu tops rn
Noone else
Even Roger got stronger later
i can't wait for oda to reveal god haki that can fully bypass imu regen
what does the last one mean
- usopp too!
I suppose
but its interesting that they had coc and it didnt matter
so it's not just coc..what gaban knows?
arlong blue haki will be real btw
IMU > LUFFY + BLACKBEARD + SHANKS + DRAGON + AKAINU + KUZAN + MIHAWK COMBINED
This is why Yami is important !!
its probably not acoc because its imu
- usopp
No
Ah yes, the super secret black blade immortality negation
I mean it's still like 6-7 really really strong people not being able to do any damage

I think bb set the holy lands on fire
imu has special ancient regen that can only be beaten by god haki
He did tell lafitte its enough sitting around
mu's world is incomplete because it's missing one piece
the piece that is bleeding
I would damage Imu
None of them had no touching haki until later in life , none of them are at their peak
Either imu is different or the secret isn't conq but something more sinister
oh boy he said the thing
Smh wake up people
Ryuma perma scarred the gorosei

That wasn’t the peak of power
This os happening
What
What
You can damage the holy knights with acoc 2 but for Imu you need at least acoc 4
Its pretty much their peak for most of them
like i have no doubt in me if you put all the people who attacked imu in their primes and then added every named character in the story on top it would still do nothing to imu. we don't have the tools to deal with imu quite yet
I just concocted
bro concocted
bro a potion maker
potion seller looking
reread what you said 
Absolutely not , kaido big mom WB Roger all got stronger later which we know as a fact , all gained no touching acoc later , not now
bro brewed up something devilish
I read that as lotion..
That happens years later
Mihawk is known as the "World's Strongest Swordsman"
Imu is known as the World
Mihawk is Imu's Strongest Swordsman
Mihawk is a secret WG ally. The right hand of Imu. The next puppet of Imu.
They’re not close to their peak
I see it now
dolfius always got someone goated in his pfps
earl does it really matter at all if they were at their primes
potion makers probably make lotion too
I really really hope its not just “more haki” against Imu 
it can't be
now i’ve got two someones
you know it won't
jacinthe is being ignored
Usopps gonna fight imu dw
Absolutely because everyone is exaggerating how potful it makes imu seem , because you act as if the cap of power already fought him , the cap of power did not
And then yall complain later
With all the giants
I think it will be
its gonna have to do with the nika fruit or the one piece or the yami or all three or some other bullshit to turn off immortality
Nika i can see oto
Well
imagine i solved the story
do you think the way to beat imu will be producing something stronger than this combined attack lol

Yeah and wb and Roger showed touching , they’re not consistently at their best
I think it’ll 100% be nika AND haki
@vital heart mr bushido told Dak that he thought Rocks had Mr. 5s fruit so he was kinda close. I had the same thought
Man just say your were wrong
cause i think that's crazy
I’m not wrong , you’re stupid
Discord moment
Imu is lucky Shiki didn't step in
its very obviously not gonna be imu getting defeated by simple overpowering
so all the brute force in the world doesn't matter
Second stupid cunk comment today
Was Big Mom trying to hit Kaido and just accidentally hit Imu
Good question. Maybe? Or a different use of haki? Idk
If so that’s pretty funny
Yes lol
I love her
Stronger attack wont be the counter lol
Imu loves revizing history
i think there's a close to 0 chance what does imu is anything related to haki
Unless Roger got crazy haki later on
Ganzui is a fucking snake bro 😭
I should have known posting roger and garp fighting with advanced conq wouldn't be enough to show they have advanced conq to a discord user
That's on me
First time dragon Kaido dodged Big Mom upscale 🔥 🔥
at least Ganzui is doing something again
I guess thats why his attack is called that
Or mega downscale
It’s like you forgot there’s a stronger version of acoc holy shit
Keep talking tho lmao
We know haki can negate some of his abilities tho. So i dont its not haki related but may need something else involved
Surely ROCKS would have that
maybe the original piece has similar powers to imu's
imu wants it to be complete, get stronger, be safer
whoever manages to get the one piece will be able to go even vs imu or even nullify their power
idk
It's not gonna be haki
Your own assumption
It will be
Not joyboy haki
I got kicked from all channels for a sec 😭
Ok I guess Rocks just sucks
Ancient haki is real
Obviously this is because of Imu's immortality and all that would need a counter, but I do think its still meant to show the power gap here, like I don't think it should be overhyped but its not to be downplayed either
dsicorsds bugigng pronbably
big mom snuck up on kaido (sneaking up on someone has literally never failed in one piece its got an unbelievable track record look it up) and still missed
💀💀💀
I'm ngl this was kinda humiliating for Captain John, it only took 1 hit...
Why are yall always picking sides like it’s fucking football lmao it’s clearly gonna be fruits and haki combined that does the trick
Wait
Weird Had to go in and re enter all channels manually
Was this combined attack by the 6 top tiers the strongest combined movie in the series thus far?
Stop choosing sides everything is involved
Sucks against the strongest character in the series
Rocks only mentioned 2 fruits...
Can u stop shitting on big mama please
Or does Joyboy Emeth Haki knot still go beyond this?
never
You're missing the context
she has never taken a W
I mean it should be
Because that’s what he didn’t have lmao
also as for the counter, worst case scenario is that nothing is good enough outside of Yami Yami and Nika, not Haki lol
Ig 😅
I’m sorry you can’t put two and two together
What if Joyboy just has better haki than all of these guys combined
only serves to prove that mr 5 really had powerful bombs.
making him knocking out Broggy logical 
So glue
I would actually prefer if Haki could hurt Imu, I would take ACOC 3 over this
I woulne dt be surpsied
rocks slander...
well obviously it shows us imu is completely unbeatable right now. what it doesn't show us is how strong you got to be to beat imu
because its possible rocks could beat imu without immortality
we don't know
yeah see trust ggodfad
It’s probably strong haki and fruits combined that does it in typical shounen fashion everything plays into the final defeat
Imu is the king of regen hacks
eh, I think its still showing that he is stronger than all these guys
are you ok
not like, combined
idk imu got literally chopped up
my braing is laggin agin
Can I just get a check with everyone else who's avoiding this did I just defeat earl with facts and logic using my superior brain filled with insane one piece knowledge or is he right and roger and garp didn't get no touching acoc until after God valley
chater to peak
Tbf she let him know before she was gonna attack him!
obviously it doesn't matter at all but it something
Ion think symbiote imu is meant to be durable
i am worry
I feel Imu's haki is still stronger than all
its like saying that Usopp could beat Gunko if it wasnt for the regen
Okay ben shapiro, uhh idk sure I guess I didn't read the argument
but possibly worse? because Imu's form is extremely odd here
did we see it knock out literally a single named character
Imu in this current chapter? Yes he’s showing dominance of over the current people there , tho none of them are actually hurt yet , it’s like unstoppable force meets unmovable object
Well
entirely possible btw
That's not technically wrong
And Imu was like, not even mentally there, bro was 800 years in the past in his head
Its not like its any more powerful its just a different application
ok
what is our interpretation of Rocks's line at the end, is he playing tough or is Imu not physically there somehow?
Named characters doesn't get knocked out, but it was the best showcase of conq after joyboy
Do you wanna know what's the crazy implication of this chapter?
Who wants to know?
It's that EOS Luffy will be able to withstand this attack at a better condition than Imu can. EOS Luffy will be stronger than all 6 of these top tiers combined.
I think theres a clear difference between symbiote imu and the imu that ate sabo’s attack
Regardless of the fact , you need it to advance in the fight
so glue
eh
doddylingo
donut man
Joyboy can do damage to Imu while these characters cant btw
ace looks so werid here
thats not how that works
Which line
Speaking of this page why is Rogers sword faced away from garp
oh come on, okay its like saying that Apoo would have killed Kizaru at Sabaody, or Franky would have killed Saturn
WELL
its just not a damage dealing attack
i think that Imu didn't intend to hurt him, but just hold him still so they could domi reverse him
Did he cut through garp
Luffy will not solo imu
It’s slicing thru, that’s the follow thru
It's TECHNICALLY not impossible
this line
He sliced him ig
yes
it was more like confusion because the sentence ends with an ellipses as well
Attempted
i think that Imu stabbed him just so Xebec would be still
The sword followed thru regardless of the attempt
kimd
sounds genuinely oconfsed
wait a minute guys if the tentacles didnt hurt rocks why didnt he just slice em?
I think rocks is clearly literal here
since i think that Xebec couldn't move
Imu held him in place
ohhh probably
The itch part makes me think hes boasting
Or to invoke domi reversi, even broggy was hand chopped
He's not
okay so its just a weird thing he used to lift him but it doesnt hurt
Well then that's a plot hole no? Garp should only have the waist up for the rest of the series? The fact we see his legs afterwards and in current timeline is a bit of a plot hole no?
Well maybe Imu isn't there but he also may just have some super regen that only can be hurt by like Nika
He would heal anyway

Oh you mean Imu's attack
It being painless doesnt matter really
Imu is using some weird tentacle shit
why do i have a feeling we wont find out what rocks' devil fruit is?
I think Imu just has weird powers
the weirdest part is when Roger's crew said that the pain was compelling?
He aint df user
何だこりゃあ痛くもかゆくも。。。
@clever idol
Pop this shit into google translate and then tell me what it says.
oh
He's a boring ass hakiman
Rocks just doesnt have a DF lol, he was never said to be one
Atp I don’t think this is a silhouette anymore but a coating of black they wear over their body
If it's not shown until now then he is probably not a df user
it said 'network problems'
Rocks is a lame hakiman
Imu blob monster were so back
