also-manga

[tranquil blade]

I mean yeah he can just get stronger, and Usopp can just be yonko level too I guess cause anything can happen but

It's not very likely

[deep chasm]

yea its not hurting anyone

[ashen perch]

Koby is going from his current level to beating Kuzan in a month, its fine

[sweet anvil]

If you fight 2 emperors an admiral 1 1st commander and some other crew members then it’s fine

[frigid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[deep chasm]

well I will not acknowledge that given its not happened

[sweet anvil]

[deep chasm]

is there any real example

[tranquil blade]

No

[ashen perch]

Yes

[tranquil blade]

Maybe

Idk

[sweet anvil]

Luffy doesn’t count btw

[ashen perch]

Sanji

[leaden rivet]

Law from dressrosa to Wano was kinda wild lol

[hot cairn]

do you believe in Koby vs Kuzan or Luffy and Koby vs Blackbeard

[deep chasm]

yea not as wild as what arsal is saying

[frigid gulch]

Tanking conquerors thunder baguas

[tranquil blade]

At least he awakened and sailed around for a bit

[ashen perch]

I mean yes, he was nerfed but he did from getting his leg broken by Vergo to kicking away Nusjuro's face

[frigid gulch]

[leaden rivet]

That would actually like murder dressrosa law

[tranquil blade]

He got like 3 powerups since then Arsal

That's not fair at all

[ashen perch]

Vergo to Nusjuro is a gap as wide as post ts Gear 3 Luffy and Kaido

[deep chasm]

why do we always make very different degrees of something into a comparison

the game is gone we just make any comparison

yall got it

[ashen perch]

You're the one who asked

[frigid gulch]

Puncture Wille was damn impressive

But BM looked like a fool

[deep chasm]

doesnt change how bad those comparisons are

[tranquil blade]

Well she is a fool sometimes but yeah

[ashen perch]

Law and Sanji, Luffy himself even, I mean struggling against that Cracker to beating Kaido

[frigid gulch]

How will Oda respond..

[tranquil blade]

Well Big Mom sure as hell isn't responding

[ashen perch]

Zoro kinda? I guess people think he never went all out till Ashura

So its iffy with him

[wraith mantle]

https://x.com/daysdrms/status/1979778111286993250

day ! (@daysdrms)

from taking his mother's name to wearing dadan's beads to makino's advice shaping him to who he is now. the best mama's boy :((

X · Oct 19, 2025, 5:14 AM

[ashen perch]

But the point is, characters get stronger in a super short amount of time, I think Hajrudin is gonna do that and on top of that, he's gonna unlock Conquerors here

[deep chasm]

struggling against cracker (beating him) vs beating kaido with a lot of help
compared to
one shotted by g2 luffy vs harald level

oh man

[frigid gulch]

Zoro’s arc from Wano isn’t yet complete even

But should be soon

[ashen perch]

Mind you, I didn't want to nitpick but Hajrudin was caught completely off guard

[deep chasm]

lmao

I wonder which admirals harald fought to bloom his haki over these past 2 months too

[ashen perch]

He thought he had finished that weak old man Lucy, go reread it

[tranquil blade]

I don't think nitpicking will make the situation better

[deep chasm]

oh not the dreaded off guard

[frigid gulch]

It’s kinda wild

[deep chasm]

Im sure if he was on guard he wouldve pushed luffy to g4

[frigid gulch]

Almost no one thought he’d be that strong

[ashen perch]

He has the greatest raw strength feat in the series after it so I mean...

[frigid gulch]

But I guess he is basically OG Loki

[ashen perch]

The idea with the giants is basically that they're born that way lol

[formal wagon]

luffy sux

[leaden rivet]

🧍

[frigid gulch]

Who tf did Rocks fight

[ashen perch]

Also who did Harald fight to get stronger? I mean I had the answer

[frigid gulch]

He wasn’t even a pirate

[ashen perch]

You guys didn't like that answer

[deep chasm]

I sure hope that starts to translate to his durability

[pine ridge]

everyone

[ashen perch]

Harald, Dorry and Brogy grew up together

They were like the ASL of their time, as I said

[frigid gulch]

Rest

[deep chasm]

talking like my uncle who watches conspiracy theory videos

[ashen perch]

Laww this is canon

Please

[deep chasm]

guys I swear the earth is still flat they faked the moon landings

[ashen perch]

We know they grew up together???

[urban lodge]

The more I think about it he really is everything bad about Shanks but even worse

[ashen perch]

I'm being gaslit here

[leaden rivet]

I can’t see it

Shanks is much much worse

Rocks isn’t a Mary sue, he has his own flaws. He doesn’t really reduce characters for the sake of his own hype.

[frigid gulch]

When he off screened the admiral

That was the first sign

[urban lodge]

Garling...

[leaden rivet]

Yeah but like the admiral was a no one

[leaden rivet]

Admiral guy wasn’t even a character

[ashen perch]

Literally besties, sworn brothers some might say

[frigid gulch]

Still an admiral tho

[leaden rivet]

Ok this is fair, but it’s only happened once

[frigid gulch]

It’s heavy

[leaden rivet]

It’s forgivable

[hot cairn]

Shanks isnt a Mary Sue either

[leaden rivet]

He is, but it’s not something I feel like arguing rn

[ashen perch]

Look at the smiles on those lads, they'd hate you for talking down on their friend

Harald would hate you for saying "He low diffs Dorry"

[frigid gulch]

I just hate when it feels like the author is trying too hard to cover up for a character

[ashen perch]

Its also false

[frigid gulch]

Makes me want to puke

[deep chasm]

good thing hes a fictional character

[leaden rivet]

I think rocks yeah

That’s my major issue with Rocks

[hot cairn]

wdym

[leaden rivet]

Other than him hijacking this flashback

[ashen perch]

Well fair

[leaden rivet]

The entire the port was filled with evil people was cringe

Oda trying way too hard to clean him up and make him likable

[frigid gulch]

Goes out of his way to not make them look bad

[hot cairn]

ah

[frigid gulch]

Or even slightly bad

[leaden rivet]

To the point where people are defending him beating tf out of a kid

[ashen perch]

But yes, the point of posting that was also to show that yes, Harald was just born that way

[urban lodge]

The charity thing was absurd

[frigid gulch]

I don’t have an issue if it’s some cases but

[pine ridge]

I dont think he tried that hard. he just is likable

[leaden rivet]

Sure I don’t see it that way

[pine ridge]

being likable doesnt mean a good person necessarily

[leaden rivet]

They often correlate

[ashen perch]

I think its the flip that makes it strange, like portraying him right till Elbaf as this monster that stabbed a poor kid Loki

It just doesn't blend in with each other

[frigid gulch]

I think he still would be likeable to people even if we were shown legitimate atrocities

Just off of his personality and aura or whatever

[ashen perch]

The savage he was made out to be to now being this family man that apparently may have not done much wrong in his life at all

[leaden rivet]

Yeah he’s got enough hype and aura to make people love him

[pine ridge]

I mean yeah if his personality stays the same

[leaden rivet]

But oda is going out of his way to make him likable. Even having the kid he beat up regain his will to live from that ass beating

But whatever it’s not that big of a deal he’ll be dead next chapter

[ashen perch]

I'm investing in the unreliable narrator idea in a few chapters, I can feel it being the right move

[wraith mantle]

yeah lol

[deep chasm]

it can just end up being the same way harald was a bad person, then met a woman and became a better person.

Or the idea is just rocks is a good guy but hates when someone thinks theyre stronger than him

[wraith mantle]

people still like kaido and doffy

[leaden rivet]

I think maybe I like rocks better than shanks because I know rocks is a dead man

[ashen perch]

This Rocks isn't the Rocks that Rocks is meant to be

[leaden rivet]

And I don’t have to read about him after the flashback

[deep chasm]

what are you saying unc

[leaden rivet]

But I will have to suffer shanks the rest of the story

[trim lily]

unfortunately i think his shadow will loom over the entire series now

[hot cairn]

making all the wrong choices

[leaden rivet]

As long as he isn’t secretly inside Blackbeard I can handle it

[ashen perch]

I think Oda is intentionally keeping his nastier side away from the spotlight in the flashback, its being saved for later

[urban lodge]

He's just an extension of Blackbeard anyway

[frigid gulch]

Shanks fans have been saying it was Rocks who scarred him

[hot cairn]

“suffer” smh

[ashen perch]

Gotta wait for the flashback to play out tbf, haven't made the choice yet

[frigid gulch]

[urban lodge]

He's just there to make Blackbeard a worse character

[leaden rivet]

They’re way too delusional for a character that’s perfect

[trim lily]

i dont believe thats real

[hot cairn]

nothing has made BB worse, you’re just jumping the gun

[frigid gulch]

It’s been thrown around cause of the multiple souls thing

[hot cairn]

when you think about if for 2 seconds you know it doesnt make any sense

[tranquil blade]

I scrolled some reels I'm back what's the topic

[leaden rivet]

Rocks hasn’t explicitly made Blackbeard a worse character yet but I can tell he’s on that path

[urban lodge]

You're very optimistic Jesus

[frigid gulch]

Something about Rocks taking over BB when it goes offscreen

Doing way too much ngl

[trim lily]

i dont think rocks has made BB worse quite yet

[hot cairn]

I just know how to be patient

[trim lily]

it depends on how much blackbeard's goal is connected to rocks

[urban lodge]

I think we're already there with the ship name

[wraith mantle]

Saber of xebec

[trim lily]

i think you can still chalk that up to him just idolizing him

[hot cairn]

you might be right in the future but right now you’re just on doomer mode

[wraith mantle]

Yeah bb’s goal is probably the exact same as rocks

[frigid gulch]

Xebec wields a saber too

Woda

[leaden rivet]

They both want to be king of the world

[frigid gulch]

[trim lily]

thats a bit unfortunate but at the very least BB and xebec seem to be very different in how they view things so far

but if blackbeard wanted to seek out the same fruits his father did then ill be annoyed

[urban lodge]

That's 1000% why he wanted the yami so bad

[leaden rivet]

Rocks wanted to be king of the world so he can create a world where the Davy’s don’t live in fear, or some stupid shit like that. Blackbeard would be the opposite and wants to be king of the world because he’s greedy.

[trim lily]

i dont mind that

[leaden rivet]

Rocks at least seems to care about people

Blackbeard doesn’t

So they’re very different

[trim lily]

i just dont want everything blackbeard dreams for or wants to do to revolve around xebec

[urban lodge]

Extremely dumb motivation for Rocks but I'm expecting something on that level at this point

[trim lily]

but no use in worrying about it now

[deep chasm]

the biggest difference is BB is lowkey pussy

[urban lodge]

But like, if his motivation isn't connected to Rocks why even put that connection there

[frigid gulch]

Lmaoo

[trim lily]

i love that BB is both super arrogant and sneaky

[frigid gulch]

I was thinking of the motivation

[leaden rivet]

There’s no way Blackbeards motivations have nothing to do with rocks at this point

Like there’s 0 way

Not after all this

[frigid gulch]

What if Rocks had some noble objective

[urban lodge]

That's why I think it's not too soon to say that

[frigid gulch]

[urban lodge]

Jesus is just in denial

[keen quiver]

This man grand line trying to gas it up late

Should have started early

[trim lily]

whos we mr glr

[frigid gulch]

Xebec simply wanted to save the world as king

[leaden rivet]

You calling him Jesus is tripping me up

Did we always call him that

[pine ridge]

moon god bika

[urban lodge]

Yes

He changed his name to Soos for a while but that didn't stick

[keen quiver]

The Moon god Tika

[grand flower]

Not with the way he’s waltzed up to some of his fights

Luffy runs too

[keen quiver]

Fight like a pirate
get called a bitch

[wraith mantle]

I am lowkey glad the Shakky simping panels are over with

[keen quiver]

Op fanbase

[bold sonnet]

Like the ceremonial hindu mark on the forehead?

"Tika"

[grand flower]

Flirting and harassment between Luffy and Blackbeard

[keen quiver]

There is some links with asian culture about what Davy jones and teach will represent

[bold sonnet]

I see

[keen quiver]

Considering the darkness god thing is crazy.

[wraith mantle]

Was Garp vs Kuzan the last proper fight we got?

[trim lily]

wasnt luffy vs kizaru right after

[ashen perch]

Its very unlikely yea, just thinking about it still

[deep chasm]

then I guess rocks doesnt fight like a pirate. Whatever you wanna call that difference, thats the separation between them

[pine ridge]

gaban vs sommers

[ashen perch]

Luffy v Kizaru was right after yes, and longer

[formal wagon]

darkness god versus tonjit who wins

[urban lodge]

And Zoro vs Lucci

[keen quiver]

They both fight like pirates

[formal wagon]

no bias please

[wraith mantle]

Ah yes kizaru vs luffy

[formal wagon]

lucci wins

[keen quiver]

There is no standard for pirate fighting

[keen quiver]

Just fans imagined that up

[deep chasm]

so we're missing some word then. You just gotta figure out what thgat word is for you, because they dont treat fights the same

Im picking to call BB lowkey pussy, you can find a different term or aspect to see it as

[urban lodge]

Only in bace

[trim lily]

the last time we had a naval battle was in like wano right

[pine ridge]

it's just win by any means necessary

[leaden rivet]

I mean pirates all didn’t fight the same way lol

[dapper tree]

sure if you wanna count that

[trim lily]

i dont remember if they actually fought on the way to onigashima

[leaden rivet]

But most pirates were opportunistic cowards that preferred the enemy to surrender without a fight

[dapper tree]

kinda

[keen quiver]

How he fights is absolutely valid and the series says so

[leaden rivet]

So I would say Blackbeard is similar to those guys

[frigid gulch]

Well it’s true but people see things differently

[keen quiver]

Just fans thinking up differences

[deep chasm]

okay and Im not telling you to say its not valid lol. I think you just need to find a word for yourself to describe the difference

[trim lily]

yeah most pirates would rather intimidate their enemies into surrendering, taking their stuff then leaving

[frigid gulch]

Some pirates with more honour don’t fight like that I think

But generally yea

It’s known there are no rules

So can’t complain

[deep chasm]

no ones complaining

[wraith mantle]

“Fight like a pirate” just say he a cheating ahh bitch

[leaden rivet]

Trying to be a pirate like rocks or Roger would get you killed the first day lol

[deep chasm]

pointing out a difference aint the same as complaining

[keen quiver]

Shanks says it too

Lmao

[deep chasm]

OP fans try not to assume everything is someone hating on the story

[frigid gulch]

I’m talking about characters complaining about it

[wraith mantle]

Shanks is a cheating bitch too

[deep chasm]

ah alriught

[leaden rivet]

What are you guys even arguing about lol?

There’s like no disagreement

Yes Blackbeard does fight like a pussy

What he did to Whitebeard was pussy shit

It doesn’t mean it’s not a valid way of fighting

[deep chasm]

well someone doesnt like to use that term

[prisma idol]

Last time? Isn't that the only time

[wraith mantle]

My goat Luffy doesn’t resort to cheap tricks, he fights with honor

[leaden rivet]

You can call it what it is

[deep chasm]

hey thats what I said

[trim lily]

i think wci might count

[keen quiver]

I don't think it was bitch shit

[prisma idol]

I guess Enies counts

[keen quiver]

Fighting smart Is never cowardly to me

[leaden rivet]

The dude started begging crying saying “ I’m your son don’t kill me”

[deep chasm]

lmao

[leaden rivet]

How can you see it any other way

[keen quiver]

Wallahi stay on that side

[deep chasm]

Lisa doesnt want to acknowledge any difference in how BB vs Rocks fight

[wraith mantle]

Lmaoo

[pine ridge]

it's the reason oda gives titles like stongest swordsman and kaido's 1v1 thing. they're good at those specific things but if their opponents dont hold themselves to those specific standards, they lose the advantage

[leaden rivet]

Blackbeard is literally my favorite character

[frigid gulch]

That is definitely bitch shit

[keen quiver]

Not speaking like this he aint

[frigid gulch]

Not an ounce of pride

[keen quiver]

You will not reap the benefits of his ascension

[leaden rivet]

Being a fan doesn’t mean you have to just dickride everything he does lol

[trim lily]

you have to root for your favourite team

[leaden rivet]

I like Blackbeard because he’s not a block head like luffy

[keen quiver]

You have no honor in gasing up your favorite character why bother ?

You gas him up when you can, not clown him

[leaden rivet]

Hes a pussy and that’s why I like him

[keen quiver]

We like him for different reasons then

[leaden rivet]

Yep but it doesn’t change what he is

[keen quiver]

It kinda does cause I dont see him like that

[deep chasm]

did we just discover liking characters for different reasons 😭

[keen quiver]

Why you acting like the arbiter of the conversation

[pine ridge]

bb constantly making risky plays. the whole marineford saga was a very risky plan by bb

[keen quiver]

We discussed something between our selves

[deep chasm]

why you acting like people cant like a character for a different reason than you

[trim lily]

risky and borderline stupid plays

[keen quiver]

Then he jumps in like the ref

[leaden rivet]

Blackbeard does fight like a pussy but I wouldn’t say he’s a coward

[deep chasm]

youre doing it in public

[leaden rivet]

There’s no way someone could go into impel down with that dumbass plan and be a coward

[deep chasm]

in a conversation that we were also having, that went into asubtopic which is yall talking about why you like him

[frigid gulch]

It’s just the fact that BB was so confident

[deep chasm]

my point stands

[frigid gulch]

Overconfident even

WB calls him out on it

And he starts shitting himself

[keen quiver]

Teach sometimes goes into fights overconfident

[trim lily]

its very funny how confident BB was upon entering impel down and immediately being one shot by magellan

[frigid gulch]

He thought WB was useless without his powers

[leaden rivet]

He does because he never usually fights when he’s not confident in victory

That’s why like every Blackbeard fight starts with him getting his shit rocked

[grand flower]

Does Luffy?

[keen quiver]

I mean kaido did him like that

[deep chasm]

I nthink thats more of oda just milking the trend of bb gets hit and gets back up

[trim lily]

isnt luffy always confident

[keen quiver]

Because he got overconfident

[wraith mantle]

Kaido and crocodile

[grand flower]

Luffy believed he would win

He runs when he doesn’t

He ran in Sabaody and against Smoker

[leaden rivet]

Yeah but it’s also like a legitimate plot point. I think Augur mentions it

[keen quiver]

Bb gets hit in fights he dominates regardless

[trim lily]

i feel he famously doesnt run anymore

[leaden rivet]

Blackbeard comes in overconfident, gets blasted and then it goes offscreen

[trim lily]

that was a big moment in dressrosa

and egghead

[grand flower]

When did Blackbeard last run?

[deep chasm]

overconfidence is a thing for sure, Im just saying I dont think thats particularly why he gets hit first each time

[trim lily]

idk im talking about luffy

[deep chasm]

but thats a small point

not rlly important

[grand flower]

We’re talking about Luffy csuse I compared him to Teach

I don’t think Blackbeard runs now anymore either

He finished law

[trim lily]

blackbeard retreated against rayleigh

he was no longer confident he could win

[grand flower]

It was a ceasefire

[maiden charm]

And akainu

[grand flower]

Oh

[keen quiver]

Raleigh admitted he gets whooped there

[grand flower]

Luffy ran from the Elders

[frigid gulch]

Honestly the retreat ain’t the worst part

[grand flower]

When he realized he couldn’t hurt them

[keen quiver]

Which gets ignored by some Raleigh fans

[maiden charm]

My nigga it's the elders gng

[grand flower]

He told Dorry and Brogy to run away csuse they were immortal

Also teach didn’t retreat, it was a ceasefire

[frigid gulch]

I think the WB bit where he begged for his life 100% was rat behaviour tho

[maiden charm]

Might as well just ask Luffy to beat Imu then and there 😭😭

[grand flower]

We see after that Teach was still there with the Navy

[deep chasm]

the response is just gonna be that it was smart

[grand flower]

When he took Koby

[wraith mantle]

It’s a core personality trait for bb I think

[grand flower]

Rayleigh basically traded the Navy for Hancock

[frigid gulch]

Indeed it is

[jade rain]

Nope killing thatch was the true rat behaviour

[frigid gulch]

Well yea it all blends together

[keen quiver]

That shit was fated to happen

[deep chasm]

now if we see rocks get beat up by imu and do some shit as embarassing as what BB said to wb

maybe they can be compared

[keen quiver]

Dumbass got backdoored because of the yami fruit

[frigid gulch]

He said “are you really gonna kill me pops!? I’m your son” knowing what he did

[deep chasm]

rn theyre just very different there lmao

[frigid gulch]

After he realized he fucked up

[leaden rivet]

It’s wild cause he was talking so much shit prior

[frigid gulch]

Yup

[wraith mantle]

I forgot, did it work on WB??

[frigid gulch]

No

[jade rain]

Rocks ain't doing that,I'm betting he is going to die smiling

[keen quiver]

It din't khalid

[wraith mantle]

lol

[keen quiver]

Why did you even ask that

[frigid gulch]

Chadbeard blasted his bitch ass

[keen quiver]

💀

[frigid gulch]

[keen quiver]

In the end wb is a corpse

[deep chasm]

yea unfortunately BB didnt inherent aura

[keen quiver]

And bb smoked his sons

The sliming happened regardless

[leaden rivet]

I feel like it is because it happens the same nearly every time and Whitebeard even mentions it

[jade rain]

He only inherited offscreen trait

[deep chasm]

that is fair

[leaden rivet]

Man reading these panels back Blackbeard does get his ass beat a lot

[deep chasm]

youre right, I think its both. In manga its overconfidence, and oda just also uses it to show off BB taking hits

[keen quiver]

Ace only got 2 hits on him

And then proceeded to get his ass beat

For the rest of that fight

[tranquil blade]

Every somewhat significant fight he has

[keen quiver]

And law only got the one

😭

Only fight i could even give you that on is wb

But ace and law got victimized

[jade rain]

Bb is just portrayed like the general fictional pirates, they are scummy and run away if things don't work out

[leaden rivet]

He’s only missing a parrot

[tranquil blade]

and an eyepatch

[frigid gulch]

Joyboy will have one

[jade rain]

So him getting beat up alot also goes along with it

[frigid gulch]

[urban lodge]

Stronger is close enough

[hot cairn]

what other name would you call me?

[hot cairn]

I have hope!!

[sage temple]

Loki inherited everything else ngl

[deep chasm]

pretty much

[keen quiver]

Socrates the most stolen valor loki fan

Get your own dad

😭

[deep chasm]

loki will meet BB, get interested due to the lineage, but then turn BB down due to BB being pussy

[sage temple]

If Xebec saw how awful BB has become he would abandon him again

[keen quiver]

People really just be wanting teach to fail before reaching his peak

[urban lodge]

By the end of the arc Loki will realize it's his dad he should be admiring

[deep chasm]

nothing to do with wants

[tranquil blade]

Xebec would kill Blackbeard if he met him, Oda told me this

[keen quiver]

Fuck that mf he got packed up by imu

[sage temple]

I was in that meeting too guys it's true

[keen quiver]

I will not be hearing it from Mr lost to the world

[final trench]

Woah woah woah

[deep chasm]

pops please Im pussy dont kill me

[final trench]

What the fuck

[deep chasm]

pops not me!!!

[final trench]

Here yall go trippin again

[sage temple]

Thats why Xebec decided not to give BB the family name

[frigid gulch]

Loki is a Harald/Rocks hybrid

[keen quiver]

Fans using rocks to downscale teach gotta be the worst motion in a while.

[sage temple]

He's more like Rocks than anyone else rn

[final trench]

Shlawg

[frigid gulch]

Post Elbaf he’ll be more like Harald

[final trench]

Ofc bb acts like this his father was noble asf and got done dirty

Aint no rules in this shit

Pirates is pirates

[sage temple]

Low tier ragebait ngl

I feel like that's been used too frequently

[keen quiver]

Whenever teach puts belt to ass on shanks I'm never gonna stop bringing it up

[frigid gulch]

It’s not bait

[frigid gulch]

What’s wrong with Loki being more like Harald

[final trench]

#nocomplaints

[sage temple]

Why would this happen

[leaden rivet]

Lisa you’re one of those mythical Blackbeard fans that Penny talks about that I never believed existed

[keen quiver]

Ive been here for ages

How are you meeting me right now

💀

[sage temple]

Why would Loki be one way for 63 years of his life and because of a few months of an arc he becomes completely different

[leaden rivet]

Not what I meant

[keen quiver]

Penny literally brings up blackbeard more than I do

Rent free in her head

😭

[sage temple]

I forgot you were Lisa you need a more visible name color

[urban lodge]

Hol on now

[keen quiver]

No we will not be dropping the color

[urban lodge]

I barely bring him up

[leaden rivet]

I mean like, you’re just constantly dickriding like at any point, for like no reason. You’re kinda like Socrates but worse.

[frigid gulch]

Well because that would be his development. Being less of a dick like Harald used to be

[sage temple]

Worse than ME?

[wraith mantle]

???

[keen quiver]

Insane accusation to make

[sage temple]

[final trench]

#nextarc

[wraith mantle]

Good job I guess

[sage temple]

I've been-

Outglazed?

[leaden rivet]

There is like a hint of logic in your dickriding

That’s what I mean

[runic dock]

And they say spoilers are evil

[frigid gulch]

I’m almost expecting a Loki Hajrudin brother moment

[sage temple]

Oh that makes more sense

[keen quiver]

What even is this comment ?

[wraith mantle]

On that note, open up the goddamn spoilers channel

[urban lodge]

I still think BB is a decent character right now, but Rocks is not a good sign for his future

[sage temple]

It's almost like they are brothers

[keen quiver]

The Davy thing is the good sign

[frigid gulch]

Duh

[sage temple]

Fascinating I know

[runic dock]

Just celebrating spoiler week

[frigid gulch]

But I meant Loki actually acknowledging him

Instead of trashing him

[sage temple]

O yeah fs

I wish giants had more than just 1 name

They don't have any D.

no surname

Just a word

[wraith mantle]

Isn’t Saul a d

[sage temple]

Oh yeah him

[final trench]

Yea

[frigid gulch]

Jaguar D.

[runic dock]

Saul

[keen quiver]

You just saying anything to make me look like Socrates at this point. If you stuck around for any extended amount of time. You'd see me take about other characters. Its just teach came up and thats the center of the conversation.

[sage temple]

Dang he got lucky

[wraith mantle]

Jaguar 🐆

[keen quiver]

Even Socrates doesn't think that

[runic dock]

Lucci could never

[keen quiver]

And I beef with him every 3 days

[final trench]

Do the fishman have a D?

[runic dock]

Not that we know of but who knows if there are hidden

[urban lodge]

Lisa just so you know I don't hate Blackbeard (yet), I only hate Rocks

[leaden rivet]

I’ve been in this channel for quite a bit

[sage temple]

True I think about characters by seeing how related they are to Loki

[leaden rivet]

Si maybe you’re in manga

But I don’t see you here

[urban lodge]

It's just that arguing with Hathor kinda breaks you, you know

[leaden rivet]

Only in western series

[keen quiver]

I talk manga or spoilers

[runic dock]

[final trench]

Where is hathor

[keen quiver]

I don't go in here usually unless its discuss someone else

[final trench]

Shlawg is mia

[icy wolf]

why

[leaden rivet]

That’s why I’m unfamiliar with your level I guess

[keen quiver]

@wet heron here he changed his fucking name

[wraith mantle]

He doesn’t hang out here during break weeks

[rare ivy]

Davy might be the clan who ruled the ancient kingdom

[keen quiver]

He's being sneaky

[final trench]

Yea ik thats him i just aint see him type fr

[keen quiver]

I've talked tf out of whatever chapter inside spoilers by the time its out here

[sage temple]

Hope there's some more Loki Xebec parallels next chapter

[leaden rivet]

Im more familiar with you in the JJK server than here tbh

But I haven’t been in the JJK server in years now I think

Something about discussing JJK that riles me much more than any one piece discussion

[blazing mantle]

Gege went bankrupt after jjk ended so he had to draw for the op card game

[frigid gulch]

Wdym

There’s still Modulo

[bold sonnet]

😭

[keen quiver]

I cant even remember you from there tbh

I tend to be here at this point

[blazing mantle]

Idk if it’s just me but I haven’t heard anybody talk about it

[leaden rivet]

Yeah I was much less active

[blazing mantle]

Thank god one piece is still a thing

[frigid gulch]

Well I don’t read it so idk

[blazing mantle]

You should read one piece

[frigid gulch]

HxH come back soon..

[blazing mantle]

I heard it’s really good

Hell no

Nobody is reading that

[keen quiver]

Reading one piece should be the priority

[frigid gulch]

?

[keen quiver]

Shizo moment

Get back on op

[blazing mantle]

Aye aye captain

[hazy echo]

The lobotomy side of the fanbase really hasn’t got to it yet

It’s been interesting so far imo

[frigid gulch]

Maybe it doesn’t have enough fights

[hot cairn]

they need to give it time

[frigid gulch]

How long is it supposed to run for

[blazing mantle]

There’s been like one serious fight so far

[hot cairn]

I wonder if there’s ever going to be a OP spin off once it ends

[blazing mantle]

I thought they said 3 months

Probably

[hot cairn]

Gege said like 1 year

[blazing mantle]

One piece makes too much money to not have a spin off

[hazy echo]

It’s meant to be short form

[frigid gulch]

Oh ye ig there’s time then

If it’s a year

[blazing mantle]

They could just animate the ace and the law novels

[hazy echo]

Although it really started like a month or two ago

[blazing mantle]

People would watch that

[hazy echo]

They’re animating the Heroines spinoff

[blazing mantle]

Yeah I saw that

Better luck next time Ace

Is there a plot to heroines or is it just slice of life stuff

[hazy echo]

There’s like a good 10 spin-offs already so far

[frigid gulch]

It’s been a year since that Ishitani ep

[hazy echo]

Most are gags though

Like One Piece Party

[hot cairn]

I mean like real ones

[hazy echo]

There’s also a high school AU one

[frigid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-fan-letter-strawhat-pirates-strawhats-one-piece-fan-letter-gif-10983076230733679875

[hot cairn]

like post the ending of OP

[hazy echo]

Honestly

[blazing mantle]

This animation was so good

[hazy echo]

I don’t think we’ll get that

[blazing mantle]

I hope they do it again

[frigid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-fan-letter-marineford-megumi-ishitani-marines-navy-gif-17613912081767240249

[hazy echo]

Depending on even what happens for OP ending

[hot cairn]

there’s a lot of potential if the whole OP world changes after the Final War

[hazy echo]

I think it would be better to focus more on side stuff

Like say

The Supernovas journeys through Paradise

[blazing mantle]

I really wished one piece always looked like the fan letter

[hazy echo]

Since that’s like a whole different field that got unexplored

[blazing mantle]

But it’d probably take a really long time to animate

[hazy echo]

Idk about all the time

[frigid gulch]

That’d take too much time

[hazy echo]

Maybe like a movie though

A movie in that style would be sick

[frigid gulch]

I like the style but I also like seeing different styles tbh

I think movies do that

[hazy echo]

But yea idk about all the time since it’d be ideal to give other directors their time to showcase

[hot cairn]

is it true that they showed an anime poster for the Elbaph arc already?

[urban lodge]

Yes

It was just the straw hats tho

[hot cairn]

where is it?

[hazy echo]

It was from NYCC

Hold on

[hazy echo]

https://x.com/newworldartur/status/1976712166947316026?s=46

Artur - Library of Ohara (@newworldartur)

First key visual for the One Piece Elbaph Arc at NYCC!

X · Oct 10, 2025, 6:11 PM

[frigid gulch]

Didn’t Oda change Zoro’s pants colour

If they’re using the volume

Oda sometimes changes things around

[hazy echo]

Zoro hasn’t appeared in a Elbaf cover yet

[random hinge]

zoro still looks so fucking dumb i'm sorry 😭

[hot cairn]

was that the big news that was dropping on October 10th?

[hazy echo]

You’re prob thinking of the initial sketch for the previous one

Ya

https://x.com/newworldartur/status/1972862355588743465?s=46

Artur - Library of Ohara (@newworldartur)

Toei Animation will unveal an official sneak peak of the Elbaph Arc at a New York Comic Con panel on Oct 10th 12:45 EST #OnePiece

X · Sep 30, 2025, 3:13 AM

[urban lodge]

I erased Usopp's outfit from my memory

[random hinge]

does artur know it's spelled elbaf

[frigid gulch]

Here

[hazy echo]

Oda has it as Elbaph

From that spread

[random hinge]

oda got it wrong then

[hot cairn]

is it the goggles?

[random hinge]

yeah

[frosty oasis]

Loda

[hot cairn]

I miss the present ngl

[hot cairn]

those pants look better than the green ones

[hazy echo]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/oproleplaying/images/a/a6/ADAM_Infobox.png/revision/latest/thumbnail/width/720/height/900?cb=20241111140202

[frigid gulch]

Idk..

[hazy echo]

Yeah it was from this

[fallen meteor]

oda is so washed he's misspeling it

smh...

[hazy echo]

Loki’s hair is more purple there too

Idk which tint they’ll stick with

If it’s going to be more pink or purple

[jagged inlet]

both are good

[hazy echo]

Yea I mean more like for consistency

[frigid gulch]

That Jump cover came after so I assume that’s what Oda is rocking with

[hot cairn]

I think purple is better

[frigid gulch]

Unless he just made mistakes

[hazy echo]

They used the pink one for One Piece Day

[jagged inlet]

i would walk through that tunnel

if anyone was curious

[bold sonnet]

Every Loki fans wet dream

[bold sonnet]

Thanks for the insight

[jagged inlet]

of course

[hot cairn]

the pink is not bad, but I feel like the purple is better

[fossil mortar]

same

[urban lodge]

I prefer the pink

[frigid gulch]

I actually prefer pink

[jagged inlet]

i like the two tone

pink/purple

[hazy echo]

I wonder why

[urban lodge]

Lmao

[frigid gulch]

But I like the way Oda did it on volume

Idk if Toei’s will be lighter

That’ll ruin it for me

[jagged inlet]

it probably will be

[hot cairn]

lol and my name is purple

[hot cairn]

probably

[frigid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-saint-topman-warcury-intro-title-card-saint-topman-warcury-topman-warcury-st-warcury-gif-5414042910152365497

[fallen meteor]

loki should be green no real reason

[frigid gulch]

Rocks with green hair

[fallen meteor]

not his hair btw

he should be goblin green

[hot cairn]

green hair would be awful for rocks

[jagged inlet]

why

[urban lodge]

Honestly I think it would work

Anything is better than black and white

It's just so boring

[blazing depot]

Penny is just saying this just to hate

Praying on Rocks downfall

[urban lodge]

I'm not...

Well that part yeah

[jagged inlet]

i think the black and white could be sick on rocks

[urban lodge]

But I think either black or white + a different color works best

[jagged inlet]

true

[urban lodge]

I like black and blue

[sweet anvil]

Fuck ass Green pig

[urban lodge]

Love his squat

[frigid gulch]

It’s grown on me

[bold sonnet]

Veigar main spotted

[frigid gulch]

It’s a cool colour scheme

[sweet anvil]

If shikis colour scheme wasn’t confirmed already oda would’ve made him pink brown and grey

[frigid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/egghead-one-piece-dorry-dorry-one-piece-brogy-gif-16812943800055690720

[blazing depot]

I saw gold and white

[urban lodge]

Had to google who that was

[sweet anvil]

This guy could take out every top tier and I still wouldn’t take him serious istg bro 💔

[bold sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/veigar-breakdancing-mordekaiser-gif-26638130

[hot cairn]

Buggy agenda

[urban lodge]

The dress was black and blue, so....

[ashen perch]

Top 5 alive btw

[bold sonnet]

"Topman" for a reason

Ngl brother looks like pumba

Hakuna matata type shit

[blazing depot]

Meanwhile Mars

[jagged inlet]

[blazing depot]

I’m gonna aura farm on some snails

[urban lodge]

I have given up on that agenda and very much regret ever supporting it

Not the Buggy agenda

The Buggy is Rocks' son agenda

[jagged inlet]

buggy is rocks

imu turned him into a clown baby as punishment

killed the chat with that one

[sweet anvil]

We are NOT rocking with ts

Imu shanks mihawk dragon bb >

I would put real life money that warcury is not top 5

[bold sonnet]

Shiii

[icy wolf]

me too

[bold sonnet]

How much are we talking

[icy wolf]

warcury is overrated as fuck

[blazing depot]

Warcury is like a meme agenda tbh

The joke is that all the other elders are bums but him

[icy wolf]

boars head is durable🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯

[bold sonnet]

Even Nusjuro?

[icy wolf]

they’re all strong as fuck

[sweet anvil]

What has this guy done

[icy wolf]

on egghead everyone had to run for their lives bro its not like everyone was just fucking with them no diffing them

[sweet anvil]

He cut punk records and jobbed the rest of the arc

[bold sonnet]

[blazing depot]

Went extreme diff with a kindergartener

[bold sonnet]

😭

[sweet anvil]

Lend me more regen imu this is a vegapunk satellite we’re up against

[icy wolf]

i didnt see nusjuro do anything impressive

everyone just thinks hes 2nd strongest because he has a sword

[blazing depot]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-gorosei-world-government-five-elders-elders-gif-15110174531911340161

[icy wolf]

(Zoro opponent)

[blazing depot]

He has a Kitetsu so he has aura points

[jagged inlet]

i am one of those people

[sweet anvil]

Hot take

But mihawk will fight him not Zoro

[hot cairn]

LOL

[sweet anvil]

Idk why or how

[icy wolf]

its impossible to say which gorosei is the strongest

[jagged inlet]

mihawk wipes

[sweet anvil]

What

Warcury is the only one that’s not ass

[icy wolf]

agenda

they are all on the same tier

[blazing depot]

Ju Peter is the weakest in my opinion

It was a miracle he wasn’t the one fired

But soon

[hot cairn]

who do you think is stronger, Garling or Warcury?

[blazing depot]

https://tenor.com/view/rabbit-alice-in-wonderland-the-white-rabbit-look-at-this-time-is-ticking-gif-17400057

[sweet anvil]

It’s not his fault he’s a worm

[blazing depot]

Job security is failing

[sweet anvil]

What’s he meant to do

[icy wolf]

garling is the weakest gorosei

[ashen perch]

Hmm

[sweet anvil]

This guy gets it

[hot cairn]

bro is not cooking

[ashen perch]

Lets see actually

[sweet anvil]

He IS cooking

[icy wolf]

even before rocks wiped his ass i thoigjt garling was the weakest purely because hes the newest

[bold sonnet]

Lol

[icy wolf]

he replaced saturn

gorosei are above holy knights

[blazing depot]

The fact Garling was chosen to replace Saturn means the holy land is FUCKED

[icy wolf]

hes the weakest of the bunch

[ashen perch]

I'm afraid Warcury might be top 6 alive, not top 5

[sweet anvil]

7

[hot cairn]

I still think Ju Peter is the weakest

[sweet anvil]

And 9 after elbaf

[hot cairn]

what’s your top 10 alive

[frozen ravine]

I think the gorosei should combine into a megazord

[ashen perch]

Imu
Dragon
Mihawk
Nusjuro
Garling
Warcury
BB
Shanks
Akainu
Ju Peter

Accurate btw

[sweet anvil]

In this order ?

Or no order

[ashen perch]

In order...

[sweet anvil]

Dude said nusjuro > shanks

[bold sonnet]

Bro sneaked Dragon
Otherwise a good list

[sweet anvil]

What are you reading gang

[ashen perch]

I did yeah, Nusjuro is Zoro's 2nd last or last opponent

[icy wolf]

i dont think the admirals are stronger than the gorosei

[sweet anvil]

Shanks is just slightly below mihawk

[bold sonnet]

Regen merchants

[leaden rivet]

Wait you actually think Mihawk is stronger than shanks?

[ashen perch]

I actually do yeah

[leaden rivet]

I see

[bold sonnet]

The OG admirals are at least stronger than the gorosei

[sweet anvil]

Dude actually has garling > shanks

[blazing depot]

Let us consult ChatGPT’s rankings

[sweet anvil]

We can’t be reading the same story bro

[trim lily]

is this how far people's view of the gorosei has fallen

[ashen perch]

Garling > Shanks is very reasonable

[bold sonnet]

[sweet anvil]

No .. it’s not

[bold sonnet]

Some of them had good showing
Don't get me wrong
But still regen merchants

[icy wolf]

its not lol

NONE OF THE HOLYKNIGHTS/GOROSEI ARE GONNA BE YONKO LEVEL

SHAMROCK IS YC1

[bold sonnet]

That's a bit of a stretch

Lol

[sweet anvil]

Shanks is violating his pops

[trim lily]

i dont think its super unreasonable but i doubt garlic did as much training or has as much experience as shanks

[frigid gulch]

Mihawk and Shanks should always be placed in the same area imo

Adjacent to each other

[sweet anvil]

There’s no character alive inbetween them

Agreed

[frigid gulch]

I will never place them apart

[icy wolf]

shanks first fight should be a 2v1 against garling and shamrock at the same time maybe shanks will get pushed to mid diff

[sweet anvil]

Dude actually said garling and nusjuro over shanks based on what

[ashen perch]

Garling is Shanks's father and his final opponent, its atleast gonna be extremely close but there's the possibility of it not even being a 1v1 that makes me put Garling higher

[sweet anvil]

Final opponent?

Pure headcanon

[trim lily]

i dont know if i want shanks to fight garlic

[ashen perch]

Depends on the direction for Shamrock's character, I guess, can see a little team up with the brother

[trim lily]

id rather shamrock do it if one of them has to

[random cipher]

nah shamrock is the exception. the twin of shanks will not be weaker than an admiral.

[ashen perch]

Wow you figured it out

[trim lily]

depending on where his character goes yeah

[sweet anvil]

It’s not even a decent headcanon though

[ashen perch]

Obviously I'm speculating lol, but given their connection its a reasonable conclusion

[sweet anvil]

Like there decent ones

[trim lily]

garlic fighting shanks is an extremely reasonable thing to imagine

[urban lodge]

It's pretty reasonable

And very likely tbh

[ashen perch]

I don't think there's a more appropriate final opponent for Shanks than his own son, possibly sons(!)

[trim lily]

im still on the course of blackbeard being his final opponent..

[icy wolf]

shanks is beating him low diff

[sweet anvil]

I would argue dragon has far more probability of facing garling

[icy wolf]

me too

[sweet anvil]

Also bb

I don’t see shanks surviving

[ashen perch]

Shanks is not dying to BB, he'll be fine

[urban lodge]

Only if he fights Blackbeard after Garling

[trim lily]

pre elbaf i would have absolutely wanted shanks to die to BB but now im not so sure after that flashback with gaban

[ashen perch]

Yea no its not happening

[sweet anvil]

Either way

[ashen perch]

Shanks will lose their fight and simply survive

[urban lodge]

He's super safe

[sweet anvil]

Even if garling is shanks final opponent

[icy wolf]

dragon 5v1 against gorosei

[sweet anvil]

How does that get you to shanks < garling

[sweet anvil]

This guy gets it

[trim lily]

welcome back return to reverie

[ashen perch]

I explained why, I think Shamrock redemption is in the cards

And I can see a 2v1 against Garling even

[urban lodge]

Just hit him hard enough in the head

Loki can do that

[ashen perch]

Sure

[fossil mortar]

arsal thinking greenbull redemption and now shamrock

[trim lily]

i dont know if shamrock deserves a full redemption but i do want him to fight his dad

[icy wolf]

this would make shanks look unbelievably bad

[sweet anvil]

You think shanks and shamrock are going to team up to beat garling

[trim lily]

narratively it makes sense yeah

the two brothers finally reunited fighting the guy who killed their mom

[icy wolf]

dude shanks isnt gonna be weaker than garling cmon just cus its his dad doesnt mean shit, shanks strength comes from his strong will which his bum ass twin and dad dont have

[ashen perch]

Yea, not saying they both combined are needed but story wise its what works

[sweet anvil]

Narratively there is decent standing for it

From a strength standpoint

[blazing depot]

Get back to work Aramaki do not criticize Marijoa

[sweet anvil]

No

[trim lily]

garlic can get much stronger from how he is here

[ashen perch]

Not necessarily a strength thing, but Garling would have to be a bit above Shanks still

That's all

[native seal]

just leave garling for dragon man dragon needs a strong EOS opponent that he must win against

[urban lodge]

Dragon will fight Warcury and you will like it

[trim lily]

i did start to feel a bit embarassed while writing it

[bold sonnet]

This

[leaden rivet]

Garling will never be that strong anyway

[sweet anvil]

Your whole placement of garling is due to a shaky headcanon of a match up that’s not fully anticipated like other match ups

[leaden rivet]

Firstly he’s getting put on a leash by dragon to begin with

[ashen perch]

Dragon is going to Dragon fist through Warcurys tough ass skin and that's gonna be a real cool moment

[trim lily]

his iconic dragon fist

[icy wolf]

shamrock is a zoro opponent

[sweet anvil]

Shanks is close to the pinnacle of the verse

[native seal]

he's the inventor of the fighting style btw i just cant prove it yet

i been on this boat forever

[trim lily]

he should be more creative then

[sweet anvil]

Outside of imu only mihawk and dragon beat him imo

[native seal]

wtf

naming the fighting style after your own name is HARD

tuff asl

[trim lily]

he came up with a claw move and called it "dragon claw"

dragon kick, dragon elbow, dragon suplex

[urban lodge]

Can't wait for Zoro to do the Zoro slash

[sweet anvil]

I would really like a dragon vs garling match up tbh

[native seal]

i want to see more of the fighting style man

[leaden rivet]

lol sometimes I forget that this guys first name is really dragon

[ashen perch]

I really don't know what to tell you lol, Shanks and Sham fighting their father together is the most clearly reasonable thing for all characters involved

[trim lily]

dragon vs garlic feels kinda boring

[native seal]

nah its gonna be fire

[trim lily]

actually i guess he is connected now

[icy wolf]

dragon vs garling makes sense but who will fight the rest of the gorosei

[native seal]

also we're still waiting on shanks vs loki wtf i forgot about that

[trim lily]

lindbergh will fight warcury

[native seal]

LINDBERGHHHHH

the rev commanders' opponents were so apparent when the HKs didnt require ACoC to be defeated smh

now im lost

[urban lodge]

Probably my least favorite revo commander and I don't even know why

[ashen perch]

Dragon will fight Garling before the final war, that aint his final war opponent

[native seal]

there's a theory he'll be a traitor

[trim lily]

belo betty is probably my least

her design annoys me

[urban lodge]

I don't think they'll have any traitors

[ashen perch]

I like all the revos, need to see a lot more of them

[urban lodge]

But Oda is obsessed with those so maybe

[sweet anvil]

From a strength standpoint it makes no sense I get the narrative but shanks alone has shown proven himself to be at the pinnacle of the verse alongside only a few people garling has on the other hand has decent narrative but no actual top tier feats like that a 1v1 possible a 2v1 is implausible unless you think it would just be the 2 of them violating him

[trim lily]

gambo is awesome though

[fossil mortar]

oda is obssessed with it yeah

[native seal]

i love the deputy commander designs too

[fossil mortar]

i could see some betrayals in final war

[native seal]

jiron is cool

[fossil mortar]

don't really remember much of the revs designs

[sweet anvil]

Shanks + shamrock violates any character outside of imu + joyboy

[urban lodge]

I really don't like Ushiano

[proud pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/ahiru-ahiru-one-piece-one-piece-cyborg-revolutionary-army-gif-4191216511416084651

[urban lodge]

I want to kick him

[proud pivot]

my goat

[trim lily]

im neutral on him

[fossil mortar]

probably

[trim lily]

wait nevermind i hate jiron too

[fossil mortar]

shanks and shamrock would be insane

[ashen perch]

Truthfully, the strength thing shouldn't bother you about that matchup because Garling's current strength is entirely unknown. Its just silly to think his feats actually matter here

[golden valley]

Better fit?

[trim lily]

both equal

[urban lodge]

Yeah I can't choose

[native seal]

dressed up like UK drill rappers

[icy wolf]

final battle is imu vs everyone

[urban lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/ushiano-ushiano-one-piece-one-piece-mink-cow-gif-12383364456608039873

[hot cairn]

Mihawk is insanely high

[ashen perch]

Also yes, if Shamrock gets involved then I see it as more of an assist than "Garling>both his sons together" lol

[urban lodge]

I don't think I ever heard his voice but he just looks like he'd be annoying to listen to

[prisma idol]

Dolfius hates empowering women /s

[ashen perch]

Blame Oda

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[sweet anvil]

My point is having Odas golden boy 2v1 a guy whos got relativity to what warcury at max ? Wouldn’t be interesting to see considering shanks alone can hang with and beat any gorosei 1 on 1

[native seal]

imu dragon mihawk shanks akainu are my definitive top 5

[prisma idol]

In what

Like how much you like them

[native seal]

strength

[urban lodge]

I like Betty more conceptually than the execution I guess

[sweet anvil]

bb to take akainus spot soon

[ashen perch]

Garling will be strong enough that Shanks would need that assist, but not so strong that only Shamrock and Shanks would together finally matchup with him lol, there's a distinction

[prisma idol]

I think my least favorite is the egg

[native seal]

gambo is just chilling

[trim lily]

i like the idea of her being based on the french painting

[prisma idol]

Rip off humpty dumpty

[ashen perch]

The main idea is that the sons would work together to bring the downfall of their father and its gonna be great, Garling will be just as strong as what that story would warrant

[native seal]

i want to see the dragon and shamrock encounter

[trim lily]

but her tie makes me irrationally mad

[urban lodge]

Lmao

[sweet anvil]

Yeah I get it I’m just absolutely sure it won’t turn out that way but ig it’s just a difference of opinion

[ashen perch]

She's cool but I do hope she can like actually fight, not just cheerlead, that'd be lame

[ashen perch]

Yea we'll see how it plays out

[urban lodge]

Oh Inazuma is a vice-captain, I forgor

I like two of them then

[trim lily]

inazuma is cool

[urban lodge]

Ahiru and Inazuma

[trim lily]

but he hasnt been relevant in a while

[urban lodge]

The others suck

[fallen meteor]

ahiru is the android hand girl right

?

[ashen perch]

Him being the strongest swordsman is just unfortunately undeniable

[urban lodge]

Yes

[jagged inlet]

[fallen meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/ahiru-ahiru-one-piece-one-piece-cyborg-revolutionary-army-gif-4191216511416084651

lots of ahiru gifs actually

[ashen perch]

So when I put Nusjuro that high up, I just have to put Mihawk above him

Its Oda's fault

[bold sonnet]

Always

[trim lily]

greatest swordsman

[bold sonnet]

[dull zenith]

Captain John’s granddaughter

[fallen meteor]

what if ethan is a swordshorse

[ashen perch]

True....

[jagged inlet]

why is shanks so low and why do you think ju peter could beat luffy 1v1

[ashen perch]

Vibes

[trim lily]

i mean, didnt peter technically beat luffy in egghead

he got saved by dorry and broggy

[ashen perch]

I think Luffy literally can't even hurt him anyways

But also that

It's a win for Peter

[trim lily]

poor peter gets so much flack for his performance in egghead when he was one of the guys that did the most

[ashen perch]

Also Shanks isn't low, other characters are just higher

[jagged inlet]

you don’t think shanks is relative to mihawk

[hot cairn]

Morley sucks

[jagged inlet]

i have shanks and mihawk 2/3

[ashen perch]

I think Mihawk is a decent bit stronger yeah

[hot cairn]

agreed if that’s the cow one

[trim lily]

damn i didnt know ushiano had that many haters

[ashen perch]

Its what makes sense for Zoro's final opponent, I don't think Mihawk should be equals with another swordsman when this is the goal Oda has chosen for Zoro lol

[frail kindle]

You're wrong though based on their height

[ashen perch]

Oda is gonna verifiably make Zoro the strongest swordsman on the planet because he can

[ashen perch]

True...

[urban lodge]

Yeah that's him

[ashen perch]

I'm slightly kidding about Warcury above Shanks tho, don't take that too seriously

[dense rapids]

Zoro god level feat in final war will be amazing

[frigid gulch]

At best