also-manga

[woven heron]

No Pop no Smoke young guns

[leaden rivet]

Men is this true

[hot cairn]

Ohara def worse tho

[sage temple]

Ohara makes me feel like a dweeb when I watch his videos

[woven heron]

Uzumaki Khan >>

[hot cairn]

he has some weird ass theories

[leaden rivet]

He does way too much

[grand flower]

When he theorized that shamrock is fire scar but glossed over how people would get close enough to recognize that he has a fire scar but not that he looks like Shanks

[woven heron]

I mean he got popular by reaction tbf maybe he just continue what brings him money but i agree

[grand flower]

Seems like that’s just him

[hot cairn]

dawg that was hilariously stupid

idk how he makes his theories

[grand flower]

He just straight up ignored that

[ashen perch]

chat, no break next week

[pine scaffold]

OFFICIAL 🚨🚨🚨

THERE WILL BE NO BREAK NEXT WEEK AFTER ONEPIECE CHAPTER 1163

[hot cairn]

like if you think 2 seconds

[ashen perch]

shut up sb

[grand flower]

I’ll shit on the floor

[hot cairn]

his theories fall apart

[frigid gulch]

Break next week

[woven heron]

Never gonna forget that chair drop on WB bounty react

[pine scaffold]

no

[hot cairn]

LETS GOOOOO WE’RE BACK

[pine scaffold]

no break next week

[leaden rivet]

Im hoping rocks dies this chapter or the next

[frigid gulch]

You don’t want another break ?

[jade rain]

So soon the info is out?

[ashen perch]

please treat your floors better

but yes, its true

[pine scaffold]

it just got leaked theres no break

[hot cairn]

buddy always ignores common sense

[ashen perch]

well they get it this quick

[hot cairn]

2 more chapters of God Valley

[ashen perch]

its just a matter of when. "When they feel like posting it" basically

[pine scaffold]

Tbh we dont find out if theres a break until Monday

this is incredibly rare

[ashen perch]

I know

thats not what I was saying lol, I was saying that they get it early and keep it to themselves

[stone terrace]

Leaks been early the past few weeks

Well when there is a chapter

[pine scaffold]

mostly due to them being hype

more hype = early chap

[woven heron]

To much hype

[ashen perch]

leakers have been getting impatient, someone's getting arrested

soon

[stone terrace]

Worstgen

🙏

[ashen perch]

hopefully

[woven heron]

He is rly da worst

[hot cairn]

the most early leaks that happened when I was reading spoilers was when Youss dropped a nuke on Sunday saying “he did it, Buggy is a Yonko “

[trim lily]

[stone terrace]

This was so funny

[hot cairn]

spoiler chat was active for 24 hours straight

[stone terrace]

I think youss was against it too which made it even funnier that it was him

[trim lily]

im going spoiler free this week, wonder if itll improve my reading experience

[ashen perch]

oh easily

[pine scaffold]

Buggy being a yonko broke the internet man

u had to be there

[hot cairn]

100% it will, ask @grand flower

[ashen perch]

its the best thing you can do for your soul

[hot cairn]

that was genuinely one of the funniest days to be here

[urban lodge]

It was so funny

[hot cairn]

yeah LOL

[pine scaffold]

some people were also incredibly upset with it

[urban lodge]

And then we got a break month

[hot cairn]

then do it too

[pine scaffold]

and dropped the series

[ashen perch]

I hate my soul

[pine scaffold]

saying how its too far

[hot cairn]

people didn’t see the vision

[pine scaffold]

but then we found out the real reason why Buggy is yonko

so

[hot cairn]

Luffy, Shanks, Buggy and Blackbeard is a perfect Yonko lineup for the end of ONE PIECE

[ashen perch]

nobody actually dropped the series

[hot cairn]

Cross Guild is one of the best creative decisions Oda ever had

[urban lodge]

Yonko Buggy was the first sign of Goda being back

[trim lily]

it felt kind of inevitable for buggy to be yonko

[jade rain]

Buggy being yonko is bigger twist than shanks having a twin

[pine scaffold]

Some people did

[ashen perch]

they were just looking for attention/overreacting initially

[trim lily]

there wasnt any other good candidates at the time other than like mihawk, and buggy already had the gag of going up the ranks

[pine scaffold]

people drop OP over anything these days

like Bonney gear 5

[ashen perch]

sb

I have a bridge to sell to you, will you buy it

[prisma idol]

I would say buggy should stop at yonko tho

[hot cairn]

Sb where you even active here when the Yonko Buggy thing happened

[pine scaffold]

I dont like where this is going

[ashen perch]

its a great big bridge, incredible bridge

[prisma idol]

If he gets PK I would be fairly disappointed

[barren token]

I dropped one piece when Luffy wasn't affected by enels lightning even though the heat should still hurt luffy??

[pine scaffold]

I was here but never spoke I lurked

[trim lily]

yeah i dont really want buggy to fail upwards any further than this

[urban lodge]

He won't be pirate king but he will find the one piece

[trim lily]

especially now that he actually has his own desire and confidence

[urban lodge]

And he will be king of the world for 2 seconds

[hot cairn]

he’ll sit on the empty throne

[trim lily]

let whatever he gets be of his own ability

[ashen perch]

no but really no one who ever says "I am dropping the series" is actually dropping the series, they are just looking for attention

you dont have to believe them

[hot cairn]

Stoop did it

[ashen perch]

Stoop didnt

[barren token]

Like lightning is incredibly hot and we've seen luffy get hurt by burning before

[sleek plume]

That was one of the worst cases of reactionary readers having a meltdown

[barren token]

So like wtf

So i stopped reading

[prisma idol]

Guys Im dropping OP Luffy and Nami hasn't kissed yet

[ashen perch]

he was still reading lol, like he was caught up when he came back on an alt

[hot cairn]

it was an incredible moment too

[hot cairn]

that was hilarious if that was really him

but yeah dropping OP now seems silly

[trim lily]

if youre in this deep you might as well keep reading

[ashen perch]

well something like that can only happen in the last chapter, you can drop it if it doesn't happen there.

[hot cairn]

yeah

[pine scaffold]

Okay what about the people who hated gear 5 did any of them actually drop

[jade rain]

We are going to have wave 2 of those reactions when the anime adapts it

[pine scaffold]

or did they lie

[hot cairn]

unless you’re on doomer mode like Vic

[ashen perch]

they lied lol

[pine scaffold]

bruh what I thought they actually quit

[barren token]

I have a friend who dropped one piece after bonney gear 5

[stone terrace]

People did drop but arsal is right

[ashen perch]

cunk you dont have a friend

[trim lily]

people would never exaggerate for attention online

[shell scroll]

??

[stone terrace]

The ones who announce it prob are attention seeking

[hot cairn]

some people just read the spoilers bullet points

[sleek plume]

Folks thought it was the end of everything 😭 apparently waiting isn’t an option anymore

[hot cairn]

to see what’s happening

[prisma idol]

People who actually drop dont make a big deal about them dropping it

[final trench]

Ofc not

[prisma idol]

They just drop it

[stone terrace]

This is what really happens before you drop

[urban lodge]

Legend

[final trench]

Mfs dont realize its patience to this onepiece shit man

[urban lodge]

I loved Daigo

[pine ridge]

g5?

[final trench]

And those who wait are rewarded

[urban lodge]

The moon arc believer

[stone terrace]

Yamato not joining

[pine ridge]

ah

[sleek plume]

If anybody actually DID drop one piece over a controversial chapter, best believe they just ended up coming back within the month

[pine scaffold]

bro is roleplaying as Garp during GV

[blazing mantle]

What’s the context

[shell scroll]

valid

[urban lodge]

He was also literally 13

[ashen perch]

the people that get closest to dropping the series still only leave it for a little bit and just come back later, OP is never fully dropped by anyone

[trim lily]

i think the only thing that saved me from being upset about yamato not joining was caribou joining

[hot cairn]

Yamato not joining

[prisma idol]

The Yamato stuff is very funny

[ashen perch]

(I know a few guys who did this)

[final trench]

That was 3 years ago? Damn

[blazing mantle]

He was that dedicated to it?

[hot cairn]

I doubt that

[sleek plume]

Anime fans are going to think Bonney is top 5 or some shit

[urban lodge]

He was a child

[hot cairn]

I mean surely people have dropped the series

[urban lodge]

He said he was 13

[final trench]

Eos bonney will be top 5

Distorted future is op

[grand flower]

It has for me

[ashen perch]

I mean earlier in the series? a lot of people

but I mean like now lol

[barren token]

I have a friend who fully dropped one piece (he died in a car accident)

[ashen perch]

had*

[trim lily]

i hope he catches up again

[ashen perch]

well

[final trench]

Shlawg what

[sleek plume]

It automatically should, you’re reading the chapter as it was intended after all

[grand flower]

He’s had noise complaints called on him lmao

[barren token]

Friendship lasts forever

[hot cairn]

I mean now, the final sections of stories are always controversial. Some long time fans may not be liking the direction Oda is going

but I know for a fact that people will come back when the Op is revealed

[ashen perch]

yea, but they are not dropping a thousand chapters into the series

[hot cairn]

I’m glad

[trim lily]

we're gonna have so many people reacting to the end of one piece who havent read more than 2 chapters

[barren token]

People don't drop one piece they simply spend 3 hours everyday complaining online about it

[pine ridge]

as intended (tcb scanlation)

[ashen perch]

exactly

[sleek plume]

Yeah I think people did this for gear 5 as well

[pine scaffold]

when the OP gets revealed will it be on the news

or no

[bold sonnet]

Already looking good
No break next week

[trim lily]

probably not

[pine ridge]

r/piratefolk

[hot cairn]

people making fun of whatever the OP ends up being

[ashen perch]

just on the news? thats no big deal, I can be on the news too if I try hard enough

[hot cairn]

yeah it happened

[trim lily]

can you show us how to do it

[sleek plume]

Hey it’s better than reading the chapter via text summary

[ashen perch]

I can't say it

[trim lily]

1984

[pine scaffold]

WTF

NAHHHHH

im out

[trim lily]

discord doesnt want people on the news

sad!

[hot cairn]

it’ll be impossible to read/watch OP unspoiled

[ashen perch]

discord HATES it

[barren token]

Releasing 5000 rats into the most populated public space in the city so I can get free promo in the news

[hot cairn]

but anways, it isn’t happening for another 10-12 years

[trim lily]

isnt that already happening in new york right now

[hot cairn]

so we’re good

[grand flower]

Yeah me too

[pine ridge]

shanks foreshadowing

[hot cairn]

10 more years of One Piece

[trim lily]

[ashen perch]

worth it

[ashen perch]

12*

[barren token]

Yeah but I'm like dumping them from above so they're landing on people's heads and shit just raining rats and the news has to report it validating me

[jade rain]

Sadly the people who start to watch from the op remake will definitely be spoiled unless they binge watch it

[stone terrace]

Would not be noticeable where i live

[bold sonnet]

Shanks is the King of New York

[barren token]

Damn Paris has a rat problem?

[grand flower]

https://tenor.com/view/kissing-the-boss-oscar-smiling-friends-make-out-gif-4480069166454483751

[stone terrace]

Ha ha very funny

[trim lily]

oda if he knew how to color

[stone terrace]

But actually it did historically

[hot cairn]

12 might be too much but I won’t complain if it happens

[grand flower]

Nusjuro and Imu

[bold sonnet]

[urban lodge]

Hathor gets irrationally angry at these, it's pretty funny

[trim lily]

why ethan specifically

[jade rain]

Someone should steal Oda's crayons

[grand flower]

Bald

[hot cairn]

if that ever comes out

[steel stirrup]

Look at how they massacred my boy

[trim lily]

that actually looks good

[stone terrace]

Fujikainu

[shell scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

[blazing mantle]

Is Oda colorblind or trolling

[sleek plume]

Fuji wants his flow back

[ashen perch]

literally Zephyr's color scheme

Oda's colors are great, you guys are BORING

[trim lily]

i knew it looked familiar

[hot cairn]

I was about to say

[blazing mantle]

But Zephyr is goated

[trim lily]

snailed..

[blazing mantle]

Just a second too late

[ashen perch]

imagine if he debuted in the manga right now

[blazing mantle]

He’d get hate for his colors

[trim lily]

i hope zephyr is in elbaf

[ashen perch]

and we see that color scheme later

[grand flower]

Creative

[ashen perch]

people would hate the colors yeah lmao

[stone terrace]

Hed be a rocks victim

[blazing mantle]

When was the last time a character wasn’t getting hated for their colors

[ornate tartan]

burn scar man bout to have green hair

[sleek plume]

I like this one

[trim lily]

gunko and shamrock look solid

[blazing mantle]

Polka dot yellow

[hot cairn]

whats wrong with Oda’s colors?

[urban lodge]

Wunko

[trim lily]

theyre very uh vibrant

[blazing mantle]

You got lucky this time

[hot cairn]

yeah but that’s cool

[ashen perch]

pre WCI

[trim lily]

sometimes

[final trench]

Is he the man marked by flames

[blazing mantle]

Did people not like the tobiroppo and calamities colors

[hot cairn]

Wano didnt have hate

[steel stirrup]

Dolfius got snailed

[stone terrace]

I think thats cap lol

[ashen perch]

??????????????????????????????????????????????????

[trim lily]

please give xebec the most vibrant color scheme

[ashen perch]

WANO COLORS DIDNT HAVE HATE????????

[steel stirrup]

LIE A-FUCKING-GAIN

[ashen perch]

cmon jesus

[stone terrace]

When people complain about the colors its usually a consensus

[hot cairn]

am I tripping

[steel stirrup]

Yes

You are

Very much

[ashen perch]

yes

[stone terrace]

Like garling unified everyone

😭

[hot cairn]

which colors?

[ashen perch]

Queen, Orochi, Wano itself for being so colorful, literally no one in Wano was being spared

[stone terrace]

Wueen is deserved

Very deserved

[grand flower]

Yeah Wano got a lot of backlash for being too colorful

[final trench]

Garlings outfit ass and sommers outfit ass

[ashen perch]

Katakuri was the example from WCI I was thinking of, so thats why I said pre WCI

[final trench]

Others are fine tbh

[grand flower]

He did too

[sleek plume]

That’s a good question, if I was reading those chapters weekly and I saw those official colorings, I wouldn’t have liked them 😭 but they all eventually grow on me so I just no longer complain about color schemes not going the way I expected

[grand flower]

His hair and tattoos being pink got backlash

[blazing mantle]

Most of them have pretty good colors

[jade rain]

Both of them literally look like circus outfits

[ashen perch]

yeah, and all because they expected him to be actually b&w for some reason lol

[leaden rivet]

Now Arsal

[blazing mantle]

But maybe cause I wasn’t reading weekly by then so I didn’t get to see black and white so much

[hot cairn]

I must’ve missed those complaints

[ashen perch]

B O R I N G

[hot cairn]

Wano doesn’t feel too colorful

Egghead tho?

[blazing mantle]

People didn’t like the gorosei colors

Or did they

[sleek plume]

People hated the Goresei colors

[stone terrace]

They didnt like saturn at first

[ashen perch]

how does it not lol, Oda was literally drawing it with the INTENTION of making it ultra colorful

[sleek plume]

I was one of them

[blazing mantle]

Yeah I thought so

[urban lodge]

Most liked one was probably Mars

[leaden rivet]

Boring?

[jade rain]

It's mostly because of fan art ig, They were cooler

[blazing mantle]

Will oda do rocks justice

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-egghead-monsters-giant-gorosei-gif-9732097919756555952

[hot cairn]

you mean Wano?

[ashen perch]

it was him rebelling against the ban on many dyes during the Imperial Japan era, he referenced it in a volume statement

[final trench]

The gorosei look cool

[stone terrace]

Rocks doesnt even have a shirt this would be incredibly hard to fuck up

[sleek plume]

I think this is the main reason why we get the reactions that we do, some just get too attached to the really cool fan colorings that are posted

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-the-five-elders-kaiju-roaring-the-gorosei-kaiju-roaring-roar-rawr-gif-15627103690308988162

[ashen perch]

I will wait for Oda to make things clearer but I don't actually mind her being blonde, just think goth will be way better

[final trench]

I think rocks will have a darker aesthetic

[hot cairn]

we’ll see next volume cover

[final trench]

Black/brown coat
Black pants

[leaden rivet]

Inb4 rocks has red pants and a green shirt

[leaden rivet]

Rocks has a weird body

[stone terrace]

Its one piece

[sleek plume]

I don’t really care too much about how Rocks is colored besides his hair, if it’s cool then the rest can be whatever

[urban lodge]

His chest is too short but too buff

[hot cairn]

who doesn’t

[jade rain]

Apart from jupiter it's good enough for me while watching the anime

[blazing mantle]

Is it cause his torso looks small

[dense rapids]

The belt around around his stomach is what making it seems that way

[blazing mantle]

He’s like 70% legs

[final trench]

Yea sum like that

[ruby moat]

Jupeter best gorosei

[urban lodge]

Yeah probably

[sleek plume]

Exactly this, cool ass coloring that people shouldn’t put too much stock into

[leaden rivet]

It kinda looks like he stole Loki’s belt

[blazing mantle]

Weird way to spell Ethan

[ashen perch]

this is the problem with you guys

[final trench]

Marcus mars*

[blazing mantle]

😂 ✌️

[final trench]

Mars hates his coworkers and i feel em

[ashen perch]

you can choose to entirely ignore the colors if you want everything to be b&w so badly lol

[leaden rivet]

Well they lllk pretty similar

[sleek plume]

Same, they all simply just grew on me as I kept seeing them so it’s not a big deal for me anymore

[blazing mantle]

On everybody’s soul except mine Oda is gonna make this color scheme official

[ashen perch]

I remember the first instance of this

[blazing mantle]

Stay safe you guys

[hot cairn]

ngl this looks lame

[blazing mantle]

Dogtooth

[urban lodge]

Black and white Rocks is sleep inducing

[final trench]

Who tf made this

[sleek plume]

Thank god this didn’t happen lmao

[urban lodge]

Give him at least one different color

[ashen perch]

everyone was expecting Katakuri to have a darker color scheme because they are reading a B&W manga, they truly did NOT think of colors at all

[stone terrace]

See this doesnt work

[dense rapids]

Peak Webec

[stone terrace]

Cuz katas design is already super edgy

[final trench]

Damn

[final trench]

Yea either blue or yellow fr

[ashen perch]

Blue and Black is perfect on Rocks, I need that to happen

[jade rain]

Tbh any colour with black would be ok, i personally like red better

[dense rapids]

If it ends up being black and white that just means he was already old by the time he encountered Imu

[stone terrace]

Hes not buggys dad

[pine ridge]

it's also why b&w is the superior format. the designs always look good

[sleek plume]

That boat has sailed indeed

[dense rapids]

Like Gabon in Elbaph

[final trench]

He’s a successor

[ashen perch]

bit more color but like, you can see the idea is the same here

[ashen perch]

reading the manga in B&W just leads to B&W expectations, you guys just gotta ignore it and be open to the possibility of Oda using any color at any time lol

[hot cairn]

why does it keep saying “Dogtooth” was that how his name was introduced in the scans?

[final trench]

“Know your place” 🐐

[sleek plume]

He finally gets to take a seat and he’s still mad

Smh

[ashen perch]

oh yeah, that was his mistranslated name Jesus lol

[stone terrace]

Good thing about b&w is i can also ignore any color he picks

[leaden rivet]

This is how I’m moving with Gunko

Im just going to pretend like her hair isn’t blue

[ashen perch]

well not quite, its Katakuri but translated to English, but its a name lol

[hot cairn]

lol

did people actually called him like that

[ashen perch]

yea, well not for long

[stone terrace]

In french thats his official name

[jade rain]

I seriously believe there is an ongoing gag between gorosei of mars unable to get a seat

[leaden rivet]

How do you know that? 🕵️

[ashen perch]

I think mangastream went with Dogtooth and thats what popularized it

[hot cairn]

Katakuri is way better

[leaden rivet]

Maybe there was some truth to what Hildi said after all

[wet condor]

They did yeah

[hot cairn]

I kinda wish I was reading WCI weekly

[wet condor]

I remember

And that's what I called him for a long time

For like a year

[hot cairn]

Charlotte Dogtooth sounds ridiculous

[pine ridge]

he had one for about 5 minutes before garling was promoted

[grand flower]

That shit was tuff

[sleek plume]

Sweet General Dogtooth

[ashen perch]

searching dogtooth is like the easiest way to find those early Kata colorings lol

[wet condor]

I liked it

[grand flower]

I knew a guy who called him Dogtooth exclusively

Like years after WCI ended

[wet condor]

lul

[pine ridge]

why did they put the names backwards

[grand flower]

He’s so muted

[sturdy steeple]

I used to not like Kata’s current colouring that much but looking back at the old fan colouring… Yeah, it’s so much better.

[hot cairn]

miles better

[stone terrace]

Literal translation is bad for sub watchers especially

[ashen perch]

it was a westernization quirk from the team

[sage temple]

I wish more characters had black as their main color

[blazing depot]

Keikaku means plan

[ashen perch]

family name being the last name, that was the idea

[grand flower]

The fan coloring looks like a million other characters and fan arts

[pine ridge]

did they make it luffy monkey d

[grand flower]

Oda knows how to make em pop

[ashen perch]

no they didnt do it when it sounded stupid

[hot cairn]

what do you think of the Holy Knights ones

[dense rapids]

You guys think Imu will just end up being a literal blob of darkness or we will get the reveal in god valley

[grand flower]

This cover is good

Garling is ass but that’s the point

[ashen perch]

look, weebs are not very bright

[hot cairn]

when did TCB pop up?

in Wano?

[blazing depot]

I know the dub did Vivi Nefertari until very recently

[ashen perch]

post 977+ iirc

[humble hinge]

I want to believe in this

[blazing depot]

Only Vivi specifically so it was weird

[jade rain]

I believe we will get imu reveal in the same arc when joyboy is revealed

[hot cairn]

he doesn’t wear that now anyway, hes in a black and white suit

[ashen perch]

they are way worse now tho, but they were never very bright

[dense rapids]

Imagine

Skypiea truthers fully win

[hot cairn]

oh damn, who made the scans before them?

[pine ridge]

would be very fitting after rocks called imu the world

[dense rapids]

[stone terrace]

More and more i think this might happen lol

[ashen perch]

Mangastream & Jaimnis died right before the Roger Laughed chapter, 967, and we had a bunch of new scan groups pop up after

[hot cairn]

and only TCB survived

[ashen perch]

yea

[hot cairn]

but what happened to mangastream jaimnis?

[dark nymph]

this was so peak

[pine ridge]

ig this could also be the ruler before imu

[hot cairn]

did they got them

[ashen perch]

yea

[hot cairn]

mmm so TCB might not see the end of OP

[ashen perch]

mangastream was gotten, Jaimnis just followed iirc

[ashen perch]

well no

[pine ridge]

imagine if all leaks ended

[hot cairn]

the world would be a better place

[warm falcon]

i guess this was just spoiling the Imunko + Brook connection

[warm falcon]

i wish

[dark nymph]

what we got was still good but I would have preferred the full edge

https://tenor.com/view/shadow-the-hedgehog-edgy-gun-4chan-chungus-gif-22492410

[pine scaffold]

Whats the chances the Imu fight gets offscreened next chapter

and we only see small parts of it

like a clash and thats it

[ashen perch]

you can just pretend like his colors dont exist Rezz its fine

0

[warm falcon]

just clashes and some glimpses

[ashen perch]

the previous fights were irrelevant/minor, this is the main event

[trim lily]

its xebec and imu so we'll probably see it

[pine scaffold]

Please Oda

PLEASE

[sage temple]

new niche opinion dropped

[ashen perch]

Oda is gonna give it the the 2 chapter treatment, easily

[dark nymph]

yeah thats how I cope every time Oda shows us the officials colors for each new character

[pine scaffold]

and dont rush it either, dont make it 1 chapter and its over

[warm falcon]

wait what was the last real fight in a flashback?

[trim lily]

we should cut away from god valley next chapter

[ashen perch]

never

[dark nymph]

everything is black and white and the colors are up to my imagination

[ashen perch]

[pine scaffold]

I hope its a good fight tho, with great choreography

but idk if thats too much to ask for

[trim lily]

do you really believe that sb

[pine scaffold]

im hoping in it

[ashen perch]

Sb why do you talk like this

[urban lodge]

You will get 2 panels and you will like it

[trim lily]

you have the guy who swings wildly using his sword like a club vs a giant spider creature

[warm falcon]

dance anime now?

[blazing depot]

Homophobic eyes

[warm falcon]

jk

[dark nymph]

hes literally me

[trim lily]

oh i entirely forgot about her eyes

[pine scaffold]

Fighting choreography

[olive sigil]

Me when a new geophysics article comes out

[trim lily]

gunko actually did get heterochromia

[opal summit]

Hy

[sage temple]

I guess bro

[steel stirrup]

Bro said hips don't lie

[dark nymph]

I hate myself for laughing at this

[urban lodge]

The right eye should have been the red one but it's good either way

[warm falcon]

look how he moves

[ashen perch]

the worst part of Oda thinking his life is running out and skimming over less relevant fights is people pretending like Oda is unable to draw a fight

[blazing depot]

Why

[ashen perch]

wish people would actually read the series for once 😔

[steel stirrup]

What happened

[pine scaffold]

ODA can draw a fight but I dont want a Luffy vs Kizaru situation

[urban lodge]

Idk, that's just the one I would have guessed, her left eye just looks like a regular eye

[stone terrace]

Wdym thinking

Hes 50

[ashen perch]

well true

[trim lily]

hes gotta wrap things up

[ashen perch]

it is running out, sadly, it is what it is

[blazing depot]

My dad is older than Oda

He’ll be fine

[pine scaffold]

OP fight chapters make the most money according to Jump

so Oda should lock in

[ashen perch]

has your dad been drawing One Piece at a grueling schedule for 28 years Funke

[ashen perch]

???

[trim lily]

he might

[pine scaffold]

the Oda interview

[ashen perch]

he never said that

[trim lily]

that is not what oda said lol

[pine scaffold]

it said when fight chapters happen it gets a huge spike in popularity

more people reading = more money

just saying

[trim lily]

in the early 2000s fight chapters would rank higher in popularity

[stone terrace]

One piece isnt as great as it hypothetically couldve been but thats just life aint it

[sage temple]

Discord user realizes people get older when they age

[stone terrace]

Who knows, if humans lived to 500 then maybe we'd still be in alabasta

[ashen perch]

its not getting more people to read lol, its getting the people who are already reading the series to rate it higher on the popularity survery, thats all

[stone terrace]

[ashen perch]

yea if Oda had like 100 more years to live, we would have seen Garling properly get oneshot by Rocks

[trim lily]

i hope oda stays true to his promise of one piece ending in 2025

[warm falcon]

life expectancy is related to size too. if we were giants tho

[ashen perch]

but sadly, humans are mortal, lifespans are short

[pine scaffold]

OP has like another 10 years left

[warm falcon]

who knows if you avoid the shortening of telomeres you can be immortal

in the future

[ashen perch]

ofc it does, it would have 20 more years though if Oda was drawing it like he is still as young as his East Blue self

[warm falcon]

or Oda would do his second manga, a more sci-fi and mecha oriented

[sage temple]

Oda gotta live long enough to give me theory fuel

[ashen perch]

well actually, I guess he would be taking no breaks, so it does round off to roughly 12 years even then

[jade rain]

It's a FB, we never get full fights in backstories, if oda shows complete fights,gv itself would be as long as an arc

[ashen perch]

if Oda never took a break from now on, we would have 576 chapters in the next 12 years

[frosty oasis]

[ashen perch]

thats probably enough to end the series on the East Blue pacing tbh

[frosty oasis]

He’s racing the clock

[ashen perch]

well tbf, I said a oneshot so it would have only taken him 2 more pages

I think that would have been nice yknow

[ashen perch]

before Rocks fights Imu of all people, him getting a big named attack against Garling that takes him out, Divine Departure style

that wouldnt have hurt at all

but oh well

[frosty oasis]

Not my goda

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/heheheheheheha-gif-12671258225278515125

I love plausible deniability

[jade rain]

That would have killed garling stocks

[frosty oasis]

I think the stocks have plummeted

[ashen perch]

I don't think it matters

[formal wagon]

would sabo and imu be good friends under different circumstance

[ashen perch]

what is the different circumstance, pre Lili rejection and set in Void Century?

yeah they would have been besties

[ashen perch]

youngest version of HK Garling v the strongest version of Rocks you will EVER see, it truly doesn't matter

[warm falcon]

or do you prefer this?

[stone terrace]

Like a phoenix garling will rise from the ashes

[jade rain]

Garling getting one shot would make him feel lesser of a threat when he is an upcoming antagonist

[ashen perch]

still weaker than Nusjuro btw

[stone terrace]

I mean he was a baby

If it was current garling id agree

[warm falcon]

i guess he being put as the final players was not in vain

[urban lodge]

He might have been around Shanks' age now

[frigid gulch]

Well he’s probably around the others

[urban lodge]

Or he just aged a lot worse than Sommers

[ashen perch]

we'll see Imu toy around with future emperors next chapter, it truly doesn't matter that much when they are younger

[frigid gulch]

I’d guess he’s like 70ish

[magic sparrow]

My theory that there's more to this arc than imu. Uruoge/Enel might genuinely come back

[ashen perch]

truth

[ashen perch]

oh yea I forgot to mention this

[frigid gulch]

“Strong” is like commander level apparently

[ashen perch]

I wonder if the reason for his strength was this humiliating defeat

[urban lodge]

The reason for his strength is Imu buffs 😔

[ashen perch]

like he vowed to never lose again, or he found himself an unbelievable devil fruit

[sweet anvil]

Yeah pretty much the whole wg

[frigid gulch]

He might’ve actually declined somewhat

Prior to becoming a Gorosei

[ashen perch]

WG slander will age so poorly

[sweet anvil]

Imu got to be crazy op to be carrying the wg this hard

[ashen perch]

Garling doesnt look a day older than 60 to me

[frigid gulch]

You can’t go off looks strictly

[ashen perch]

really whats the difference between him and Fujitora? looks wise?

[sweet anvil]

Copium 💔 he was fs mid 30s at GV

[graceful grove]

he has probably never been challenged properly so why bother trying to reach higher level? this is the moment

[frigid gulch]

The fact that his hair could be white

That’s the difference

[sweet anvil]

Sengoku at MF

[ashen perch]

eh its gonna be blonde, he truly doesnt look old to me lol

[sweet anvil]

didn’t have white hair but he was like 76

[frigid gulch]

Based off nothing yeh

[ashen perch]

yeah this makes sense

[frigid gulch]

He’s a special case

[urban lodge]

Oda took away Ju Peter's blonde so he'll be white haired too

[frigid gulch]

Plus I’m talking about how Oda depicted him rn

[ashen perch]

the idea that he was in his mid 30s at GV is also based off absolutely nothing lol

[frigid gulch]

Sengoku’s was shaded

Ye but it’s also equally possible

Because looks aren’t the way to go strictly speaking

[sweet anvil]

The Copium is insane bra 💔

[ashen perch]

I mean Sommers turned out to still have his blonde hair, its fair to assume that they were the same age in GV

[sweet anvil]

Garling just couldn’t hang with the real top tiers at god valley and that’s fine

[graceful grove]

Garling looks 25-35 ish in gv

[sweet anvil]

Imu gonna carry the wg to the win in the case

Himu

[stone terrace]

If garling was 30 or 40

I dont really care

[ashen perch]

you guys are so so reactionary

[stone terrace]

God valley was then and now is now

[sweet anvil]

I don’t see how

[graceful grove]

current Garling can't be past his prime. he is being set up for his big fight

[stone terrace]

Blackbeard wasnt even king level at 40 look at him now

[graceful grove]

what's the argument here ?

[jade rain]

What is prime for immortals

[formal wagon]

current garling vs base garling vs prime garling vs

gargling

[ashen perch]

Garling had one loss 38 years ago to one of the strongest people to have ever lived, its gonna be fine

[grand flower]

And inflammatory. Nothings normal anymore

[ashen perch]

true yea

[sweet anvil]

The only reason I dislike garling and the HK is their regen if I’m being honest

Feels like everyone is getting it atp

[stone terrace]

I get that

Its a little boring that all these super durable or immortal dudes showing up

[sweet anvil]

The government has 15 immortals right ?

All of them have no known way of dying

[leaden rivet]

Immortality abilities are genuinely some of the worst in fiction

[jade rain]

The HK's are biggest disappointment for me in gv, they just turned out to be hypetools

[sweet anvil]

Real

[leaden rivet]

And then there’s always a super convoluted counter to get through it

[stone terrace]

Meet the lunarians! Weakness? None! Except throwing their fights

[ashen perch]

the HKs + Gorosei being immortal is fine to me, I think they are going to find a way to disable it entirely

[graceful grove]

if they are immortal, they are at their peak i'd say. i'm going off on how the domi reversi is being portrayed as them reaching a level they couldn't before so this sort of should apply to one's that's being "immortalized" by imu

[sweet anvil]

I think it would’ve been much cooler if you only got the immortality once reached gorosei status

[urban lodge]

I'm fine with immortality, there's a reason the WG has been in power for 800 years

[ashen perch]

because ACoC is just slowing down the regen, its not enough, there's gonna be a real big counter that takes it away entirely

[urban lodge]

Acoc being the counter is boring but expected

[stone terrace]

Well they get the actual immortality as they dont age

[frigid gulch]

I mean it’s alright

[sage temple]

So did a child the bar is set kinda low

[grand flower]

Tbf being inflammatory about Garling is valid because the contrast of failing so badly against Rocks(getting reverse jumped with immortality)

Vs

Bullying helpless people before this

Makes him portrayed as really pathetic. At least for rn

[stone terrace]

But it was crazy to find out every single hk has it

[sweet anvil]

Like at least some exclusivity bro they’re giving it to fodders atp

[grand flower]

He’s a bully who got what was coming to him rn

[jade rain]

That is what I'm saying too, garling isn't like garp and WB to get weaker as he ages

[sweet anvil]

Bro they’re giving it to real life bums

[ashen perch]

I mean I'd get it, but people are not really doing it for that reason lol

[stone terrace]

Well i mean

[sweet anvil]

The bar for receiving immortality gotta be in the ground bro

[grand flower]

That’s why I’m doing it because I’m pure of heart

[stone terrace]

It kinda has to be that way for balancing

[ashen perch]

yea Garling is clearly meant to be a pathetic loser here

[graceful grove]

yup. too many ppl having this very special feat makes them less impressive for gorosei

[sweet anvil]

Would’ve been a lot more balanced if you just gave it to the gorosei only and made the HK more competent fighters

[urban lodge]

The gorosei still have their own exclusive thing, it's fine

[grand flower]

Fuck yeah FUCK Garling

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-friends-demon-dies-gif-24481160

[urban lodge]

They don't age and they get demon forms

[stone terrace]

Yeah thats true

[trim lily]

i cant wait for the regen counter to be found so they can be actual fighters again

[ashen perch]

its actually not even confirmed if ACoC works on the Gorosei tbf...

[grand flower]

That’s just one counter

Watch

[sweet anvil]

It works on slowing down regen just doesn’t kill them

[grand flower]

It’s about penetrating deep enough

[formal wagon]

wait omg 😭 i just realised gorosei aren't fighters bros won because of regen

[graceful grove]

this was his luffy v charlos moment xd

[wet heron]

[grand flower]

Ryusoken can do it too

[wet heron]

now we wait for JIKA ..

[grand flower]

Exactly

[trim lily]

they are just a bunch of old guys

[sweet anvil]

If the HK had one yonko level combatant (regardless of regen) they would actually be busted

[sweet anvil]

Like unstoppable

[ashen perch]

oh I agree with that but I was saying that Gaban only talked about the HKs being affected by ACoC, not the Gorosei...

I can see their regen being a higher tier too, is what I am saying

[trim lily]

i think its safe to say the gorosei are also affected

they got affected by joyboy's after all

[stone terrace]

Lets see what shamrock can do

[grand flower]

Haki knot remember

[ashen perch]

well remember that I disagree smh

[trim lily]

unless the haki knot is the special 4th kind of haki, ancient haki..

[sweet anvil]

Wait how come Gunko didn’t age but garling did does this mean that Gunko is of similar importance as the gorosei ?

[trim lily]

yeah

gunko is special

[stone terrace]

Shes gods blade

[grand flower]

Ligma Haki

[scenic dirge]

I hope Garling gets a cool moment during gv at least

[trim lily]

i hope any of the knights do

[sweet anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-gif-8272342975911687520

[grand flower]

He will but it will so funny if he doesn’t

[scenic dirge]

Rocks is too himmy

[sweet anvil]

They don’t need garling to intervene they got Himu

[trim lily]

himothy

[ashen perch]

but as for other counters, if ACOC can only slow down regen, then its not gonna be the main counter for sure

[graceful grove]

he got one when he was on a killing streak(defenseless civilians & children)

[ashen perch]

there has to be something that disables it entirely

[sweet anvil]

rocks my top 3 but it’s going to be sad seeing him get his first L

[leaden rivet]

Gabán makes it seem like it does more than slow down

[trim lily]

imagine if there was a special kind of stone that could disable devil fruit powers

[leaden rivet]

He said they’re not truly immortal after all

[trim lily]

yeah we see sommers actively feel pain

[sweet anvil]

Imagine Blackbeard can stop the regen

[ashen perch]

how many HKs has Gaban killed

[stone terrace]

My working theory is acoc does real damage but they regen it

[graceful grove]

you are onto something

[sweet anvil]

You can’t kill them

[stone terrace]

Basically it works like marcos fruit then

[trim lily]

i dont think so

cause if it still caused pain then robin wouldve killed sommers

[ashen perch]

I agree with this yea

[leaden rivet]

It’s possible that their regen has a limit like in other fiction

[trim lily]

snapping someone's back is pretty painful i think

[sweet anvil]

Yeah like you just have to kill them enough times

[ashen perch]

I mean cutting someone in half is too

Gaban did that with ACOC, didnt help

[trim lily]

ive given up trying to figure it out

[ashen perch]

I think its simple really

[trim lily]

we're bound to figure out the counter sooner or later anyway

[stone terrace]

Haki kinda does suck at times

[wet heron]

Garling will surely get a cool moment in GV

[strong wadi]

They get Marco’s fruit for free but can’t heal others is what I’m going with

[trim lily]

acoc is stupid but ill take it as the counter to a greater evil

[ashen perch]

ACoC allows you to hurt the HKs, but it can't possibly disable immortality itself

[stone terrace]

[strong wadi]

This is bad because this is stupid + stupid, not stupid - stupid

[wet heron]

🤝

[graceful grove]

all this brainstorming about needing haki to beat regen, watch Chopper cook up something that fucks up the regen

[ashen perch]

the real counter is exorcism and this is where Urouge will step in btw

[trim lily]

isnt it a subtraction since youre removing the regen in exchange for it having to be dealt with by acoc?

[stone terrace]

Stupid * stupid

[trim lily]

though that introduces a greater problem of only 3 people having it

[leaden rivet]

Acoc being the answer to the regen is so ass

[graceful grove]

lazy

[jade rain]

It is stupid for me when it is too strong and the main characters don't use it often

[ashen perch]

its not the answer, its like a temporary solution for now

[strong wadi]

No, regen is stupid and ACoC is stupid. The proper solution is not including either in the story.

[trim lily]

ill be sending over our notes to oda

[ashen perch]

regen is fine

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/keffa-karceno-gif-6784164235141014765

[tawny kraken]

killing imu is the only way to kill them for good I bet

[graceful grove]

i think there will be another method because they won't have enough acoc users for imus immortal army. my money is on chopper

[hot cairn]

true

[leaden rivet]

Regen is stupid, Acoc is stupid, lunarians are stupid

[trim lily]

regen is cool if you use it for one enemy or for one scenario

its stupid when 15 enemies all have it without any creativity behind it

[stone terrace]

It is a really bad gimmick i cannot lie lol

[urban lodge]

Regen really doesn't bother me as much as lunarians

[ashen perch]

last one gotta be racially motivated what the hell

[stone terrace]

Gotta make the most of it

[graceful grove]

https://tenor.com/view/office-michael-scott-thank-you-gif-5278681

[urban lodge]

Literal complete invulnerability is just so dumb

[hot cairn]

how are the Revos even supposed to fight them if there’s no other method

I believe there’s something else too

[leaden rivet]

Well technically it is I guess lol

[trim lily]

im fine with the lunarian invulnerability on king since his mental state can be manipulated

[leaden rivet]

But the invulnerability shit is dumb

[trim lily]

its stupid when put onto robots like the seraphim

[graceful grove]

dragon and sabo will have it

[leaden rivet]

And relies on the opponent being a moron

The seraphim seem less stupid

[ashen perch]

I like the idea of regen because it brings back Logia intangiblity without bringing back Logia intangibility, but Oda failed by making Haki the counter to it as well (for now)

[trim lily]

we running it back

[stone terrace]

Straight up invincibility is such a sin lol

[graceful grove]

seraphims was another mistake

[stone terrace]

The downside is theyre slower but theyre still fast

[sweet anvil]

Bro what

[leaden rivet]

Why do you want login intangibilility back?

[trim lily]

silly oda forgot to give the lunarians an actual weakness

[frigid gulch]

It also broke their connection presumably

So more than just regen

[hot cairn]

that’s not enough, that’s only two people when there’s potentially more than 10 Holy Knights

[ashen perch]

why wouldnt I, it was super cool

[leaden rivet]

Whats so interesting about fighting people you can’t even touch?

[sweet anvil]

Nvm I just remembered how op lunarians were

[urban lodge]

At least you get some sort of feedback when you attack the hks/gorosei, lunarians are just completely indestructible

[leaden rivet]

Logia intangibility at least had elemental counters. HK regen is just Acoc

Which makes it so much worse

[ashen perch]

you guys just hate people of color being successful and powerful

[sweet anvil]

Yeah lmao just remembered how op they were

[frigid gulch]

It ain’t that interesting

[tawny kraken]

it was so cool oda brought it back with katakuri

[ashen perch]

Lunarians are fine

[graceful grove]

i agree there will be another method

[sweet anvil]

How did the lunarians even get wiped out bro

[trim lily]

the WG convinced them all to turn it off

[leaden rivet]

They got rage baited

[ashen perch]

yeahh, Oda misses it a lot lol

[frigid gulch]

They got nuked probably

[urban lodge]

Imu ate their fire like he ate Sabo's

[ashen perch]

Nusjuro wiped them all out by freezing their flames

[trim lily]

see katakuri's is actually cool cause he can control it

[sweet anvil]

It lowkey had to be done via chemical warfare or some underhanded means

[leaden rivet]

So if Acoc is the answer I guess it makes the weaker strawhats even more useless

Except Jinbei also gets to be useless this time

[trim lily]

just a passive invincibility is boring

[stone terrace]

Luffy infuses usopps pop greens with acoc

[ashen perch]

DONT

[frigid gulch]

I guess gassing them could do the trick

[ashen perch]

dont talk about it

[wraith mantle]

ah is that considered a spoiler

[graceful grove]

funny you mention chemical warfare. that's probably what chopper is making against regen xd

[gloomy tree]

how hard is it to not talk about this

[ashen perch]

yes, just dont

[wraith mantle]

ok mb

[gloomy tree]

[wraith mantle]

open spoilers channel then

[leaden rivet]

Don’t be sorry, be better.

[stone terrace]

This is random but what if the lunarians have like a holiday where they turn their flames off

[ashen perch]

but yea, Zoro almost died beating one King? thats nothing, Nusjuro killed them all

[stone terrace]

And then imu was like lets nuke them then

[trim lily]

thatd be so good

unfortunately oda isnt that good a writer to write something like that

the WG having thanksgiving with the lunarians

[magic sparrow]

They were the ones who gave humans knowledge about devil fruits pre-Void Century. They fell from heaven (the moon). Enel's coming back @sweet anvil

[sweet anvil]

This guy ?

[leaden rivet]

Im just worried about Imu’s magical book of spells and whatever bullshit it entails

[trim lily]

im choosing to believe its their fruit

[stone terrace]

Dude domi reversid lunarians

[ashen perch]

this accomplished absolutely nothing

[stone terrace]

[trim lily]

i refuse to believe demons and magic are an actual thing

[leaden rivet]

There is literally a demon buried under god valley

[urban lodge]

The grimoire is peak

[magic sparrow]

And on top

[tawny kraken]

are DFs not basically magic?

[trim lily]

no

[urban lodge]

It's no different than the stuff Luffy does in gear 5

[trim lily]

you know what i mean

[ashen perch]

Imu's book of spells is incredible and I can't wait for Oda to go full anti-toon force with it

[tawny kraken]

yea you mean like spell casters and shit eh?

[graceful grove]

or they were invited to a place with a lot of flammable stuff. they turned it of out of common curtesy and BAM imu wipes them out with gas

[dense haven]

when was the last time Oda used elemental counters tho

[tawny kraken]

I think cracker?

[ashen perch]

Luffy and Imu are going to be have a fight that is so ridiculous, so over the top that half the fandom will start bleeding from places they have never bled from and its gonna be glorious

[leaden rivet]

Prior to the true emergence of haki it Was Akainu vs Ace

[ashen perch]

we had uh

[trim lily]

https://tenor.com/view/shadow-wizard-money-gang-shadow-wizard-money-gang-gif-17925654032794413967

[leaden rivet]

And vs Greenbull

[dense haven]

cracker is not logia but fair

[urban lodge]

Luffy vs (real) Imu will be the best fight in the series

[trim lily]

oda's plagiarism strikes again

[graceful grove]

he planned to in egghead but forgot

[leaden rivet]

Forgot the guys name

[ashen perch]

Greenbull v Momo's flames yeah

[leaden rivet]

Ah momo

[scenic dirge]

Wish everyone was just like WB. Just a big mf who's hard to kill but nothing gimmicky or special about his tankiness. He's just a big and sturdy fella 😤

[trim lily]

i wish everyone had pirate cancer like whitebeard

[sweet anvil]

I’m still waiting for kizaru vs Blackbeard 💔

[ashen perch]

well the fruit...

[ashen perch]

thats the admiral BB will kill

[leaden rivet]

It’s crazy because Whitebeard wasn’t even especially durable, he was getting damaged by like everything that hit him

He just couldn’t be put down

[trim lily]

he just had crazy endurance

[frigid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-why-hes-the-goat-the-goat-bigfellerjake-skippe-space-i-think-gif-26908844

[urban lodge]

Nah that's just Kuzan, he's close enough to an admiral

[hot cairn]

real willpower

[leaden rivet]

Why is it always the admirals that have to be sacrificed for hype

[sweet anvil]

5 flashy haki clashes , 4 flashbacks and 7 near death resurrections incoming

[urban lodge]

Koby will beat some sense into him and then he'll betray Blackbeard and die

[ashen perch]

nah, he has to kill a current admiral and Kizaru is the one that will really piss off Akainu too

[trim lily]

can he kill fujitora

[scenic dirge]

wtf???

[sweet anvil]

We know it’s you Charlos

[urban lodge]

Fuji is already dying to Mihawk

[stone terrace]

You cant just kill a yonko

Too important

[dense haven]

anyway haki bad

[scenic dirge]

Stop killing the future fleet admiral

[stone terrace]

Admirals are subordinates they can be sacrificed at any time

[leaden rivet]

Theres 3 admirals 4 yonko

[trim lily]

smoker is fine though?

[ashen perch]

it ties into the Hachinosu War, its important

[scenic dirge]

Smoker is getting demoted EoS

[ashen perch]

Fujitora will die but not just yet

[sweet anvil]

3 admirals and one fleet admiral

[dense haven]

oda is too lazy to properly make a creative counter to fights nowadays

[leaden rivet]

I can’t stomach another admiral being used as a hype piece even if it would mean we get to kill Fujitora

[graceful grove]

literally the next admiral

[dense haven]

he's so washed

[sweet anvil]

Creative fights died in pre ts

[trim lily]

if i was part of the marines id be pissed if the guy that got instantly recruited and promoted to admiral then got promoted to fleet admiral in less than a year

[vale gust]

what did he do to you

[urban lodge]

Even if he's a Mihawk hype tool?

[sweet anvil]

The guys outside of the admirals don’t have the strength to be an admiral anyways

[stone terrace]

Id be sick asf

Those admiral pensions are sweet im sure

[ashen perch]

Drake or Smoker are the future fleet admirals, its fine, they have worked their way to the top

[sweet anvil]

The admiral agenda will only get worse lmao

[leaden rivet]

Mihawk does need a hype tool but I don’t think it’ll be an admiral. He’s too unimportant to waste an admiral hype tool on.

[scenic dirge]

Fuji and GB got promoted to admiral over all pre-existing marines because they simply had a skill issue. They should be the ones embarrassed.

[sweet anvil]

• akainu losing to sabo greenbull getting cooked by anyone and Fujitora defecting

[ashen perch]

Fujitora is dying to a stray Mihawk slash in the upcoming Hachinosu war

he is not becoming the FA

[sweet anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/michaeljordan-mj-basketball-gif-michael-jordan-no-no-no-no-gif-16220345851539903827

[trim lily]

greenbull will beat sabo probably

he hard counters him

[dense haven]

admiral agenda is dead already it's been dead for a long time now

[scenic dirge]

he will sabo

[sweet anvil]

Fujitora is the one admiral that won’t die

[trim lily]

boo

make him pay for his crimes

[ashen perch]

all admirals are dying

[vale gust]

a mans dreams ...

[sweet anvil]

Koby will be too young to take over as FA so Fujitora will take the reins

[leaden rivet]

Fujitora is by far the most boring admiral

[scenic dirge]

Kizaru is retiring on some remote island

[ashen perch]

wait actually, GB might survive

[scenic dirge]

Never to be seen again

[sweet anvil]

Not Fujitora

[sweet anvil]

??

[ashen perch]

but the rest are ALL dying

[weak sky]

guys will garp help luffy at the last battle

[ashen perch]

yes

[weak sky]

anyone know

[trim lily]

wait arsal did you believe that greenbull is secretly good

i dont remember if its you or shuron

[ashen perch]

I do Dolf

[leaden rivet]

How tf would we know?

[trim lily]

ah

[ashen perch]

I know skilnox, trust me on that one

[leaden rivet]

Ohhhhh brother

[scenic dirge]

I know

[rich hornet]

Everyone dies because the series will end on an epilogue hundreds of years in the future

[ashen perch]

so glue

[weak sky]

ok

[winter oasis]

lmao arsal

just because he's so evil?

[ashen perch]

I had an explanation 1s

[leaden rivet]

It’s getting hard to tell their takes apart lol

[vale gust]

really ? i think hes the most interesting. arguably hes the only we have seen actually defy the celestial dragons in a major way.

[leaden rivet]

It’s because he grew trees

[weak sky]

i want to see garp fight again

[scenic dirge]

I don't really think any of them are going to die lol. Maybe Kuzan dies but even then I'm far from certain

[stone terrace]

Something tells me that will happen very soon

[sweet anvil]

Garp is dying

[trim lily]

garp will beat imu

[vale gust]

"too many slaves being freed nowadays "

[frigid gulch]

Oppression Impact..

[vale gust]

back in my days

[scenic dirge]

Depends what Oda does with kuzan and if he does end up "betraying" BB in some way at the end. But I kind of just like Kuzan and Koby's current contrast between marine ideals that's been set up

[ashen perch]

There are a few things supporting this:

1. Greenbull acted very friendly with Fujitora in their one private conversation that we saw, but in public they decided to suddenly fight to the point that it allowed the Revos to get away with freeing the slaves
2. There's an SBS theory that Oda received before Greenbull was revealed where the reader speculated that insert big theory is proof of Greenbull and Fujitora eventually working against the WG, Oda went all "ahhh no way, I'm not explaining anything" in the answer.
3. The Wano thing, he helped save their barren land and his harsh and cruel words and actions against the samurai very well could be recontextualized as warnings to them about the kind of world they are going to be opening themselves up to with the absence of Kaido.

basically

[scenic dirge]

Thanks ArsalGPT

[ashen perch]

oh come on

AI cant replicate my brain

[stone terrace]

Can we feed an ai arsals chat history

[glass veldt]

I honestly think that was just when oda had a different idea for greenbull and later went in a different direction

[stone terrace]

Theres literally 500k messages worth of data

[glass veldt]

oda plans ahead a lot and has a big brain and all but he also does make some shit up as he goes along and not every character is planned out perfectly

[ashen perch]

I disagree, I don't think the direction has changed, its a misdirection

[trim lily]

we could use our own unique zolo here

[scenic dirge]

I think if we inputted all of Arsal's messages into an ai and had it attempt to rationalize it all, the ai would just kill itself

[leaden rivet]

Why isn’t Zolo in this channel anyway?

[ashen perch]

@winter oasis it makes sense, you will see

[potent pier]

Okay, who here wants to hear my ramblings?

[glass veldt]

its possible but greenbull is not THAT imporant of a character

So far all his apperances present him as very different

The first scene depicts him as a fairly jolly, talkative fella, a bit of a playboy etc etc

[winter oasis]

so why even do all the celestial rhetoric when there was nobody to hear him but the samurai

[glass veldt]

but the rest of the scenes kidn of depict him as...well an asshole who buys int othe celestai ldragon stuff, is rather cruel but also dips out whe nhe himself faces danger depicting him as more of a parasite who might just be out for himself

its possible oda just wanted to show even evil shitty people can be friendl and nice when they are in the mood but...yeah i just think he changed his mind about grenbull and thats all

[leaden rivet]

I don’t believe there’s any volunteers

[jolly osprey]

am pretty sure garp is gonna help luffy and he will betray the marines

[steel stirrup]

About what

[scenic dirge]

I don't really think there's much more to GB other than him being the undeniably evil admiral in terms of moral alignment. Oda's big thing with all the admirals is giving them unique sets of morals and "justice" and GB is just the not a good person whatsoever one lol

[potent pier]

Me rambling about Amazon lily again. For me, Amazon Lily will always be a fascinating part of the story just based on the various specific circumstances that sorround it

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-hurry-impatient-gif-22696825

[ashen perch]

The idea is that its a warning for the samurai, he is directly informing them about the world as it currently is. Its terrible, a non WG country has no rights and without Kaido's protection, they are opening themselves up to it now. He is telling them that they must be ready for it.

[leaden rivet]

I agree

[steel stirrup]

Still waiting on my rambling

[stone terrace]

I dont care for amazon lily too much but i will hear you out

[fossil mortar]

I don't even remember it

[winter oasis]

i dont buy that he would have to go full keel hilarious racist to deliver this message

[potent pier]

For example, most of island's inhabitants never knew what a devil fruit was but basic training for them was learning how to muse Haki.

[winter oasis]

nor that oda would portray him like that

[steel stirrup]

That is a good point

[leaden rivet]

Im curious Arsal

[ashen perch]

okay I really disagree with the idea that he isn't that important lol, I think even if he remains an antagonist, he is surely going to be an important one

[potent pier]

The ability to counter different types of devil fruits

[steel stirrup]

They knew haki but nothing about DFs

[leaden rivet]

So do you think while he was sucking the soul out of them, he would just eventually stop if shanks didn’t intervene?

[steel stirrup]

Interesting

Thats actually curious